Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Cowboys Place Tyler Smith on IR + Myles Garrett's Viral Offseason Workout

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the Cowboys placing Tyler Smith on IR following a thumb injury, Myles Garrett's viral offseason workout, and much more! Visit https://prizepic...ks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE and use code DEEBOJOE and get $150 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Timeline:00:00 - Kyle Shanahan on 49ers travel to Australia03:20 - Myles Garrett's viral offseason workout07:13 - Cowboys send Tyler Smith to IR11:08 - Giants release Darius Slayton18:30 - Play or Fade presented by PrizePicks21:56 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:05 Listen. Guys that are coming back from injuries. Because we're technically in the future, from where we're from, the president. I want to talk about injuries still tomorrow. That's facts, Joe. Debo. That's facts.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So facts. I love when he says this. Because this reminds me of, like, I love the way that we are so programmed in the NFL. Like schedule-wise, days-wise, when the games are on Sunday. That's the way that you plan your schedule. Monday is a Monday, Tuesday is a Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:03:49 It's an off-day. Wednesday is the first install day. Thursday is what the Thursday is. Friday is red zones. Saturday's walk-through. Sunday is your game. Like, no matter what time it is, if you're going to travel back in time, I just love the NFL. It's real, like, same thing.
Starting point is 00:04:05 You're going to know what you're going to know. what it is, you know exactly what the schedule is. So no matter where you go, you go flying back in time, you're keeping that schedule the exact same way it is because you just are super programs. So I like when coach says stuff like this because it just brings me back to whenever we traveled, like, to L.A. Hey, Joe, I don't think you get what he was saying. Huh? I don't think you get what he was saying. What are you saying? Okay, so where he was at was the day that he's talking about. There are like, what is it, they're in Australia?
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yes. They're like 16, 18 hours ahead. They're like a whole day ahead. So back here, it's Monday. There, it's Tuesday. What he's saying is I don't have to give you my report
Starting point is 00:04:53 now. Sorry. Oh, okay. But anyway, I don't have to give you my report now. Well, it's the same as, well, it's Monday there. but they don't turn theirs into whatever the time is here. So he's like, I'm not giving you my report, even though I'm supposed to give it to you on Monday
Starting point is 00:05:14 because where we're from, it's not Monday. So I'm not giving it to you right now. That's what he said. He's not saying like we're sticking to the schedule as it. No, he was just saying like, because we're ahead, 18 hours ahead, I don't have to give you mine until 18 hours from now, which would actually be a day later in time as they are there, but it would be the same time as it is over here.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yes. That's what he was saying. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I get what he's saying. But it's kind of the, he was, if you looked at the interview too, the same thing. He started basically, it's kind of like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Do you know what I'm saying? Like, well, yeah, I know. I know. Whatever. I'm telling you, though. Yo, it's hard, baby. Don't worry about nothing. I'm telling no, Bibo.
Starting point is 00:06:09 For real, though. Listen, listen. So I guess Miles Garrett, he added some new training to his off season. They've been running around on social media. You know, this right here, check it up. If I want to stop stepping the fan, the moment I start my front foot forward, I don't get to have my foot go first.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You'll notice you're searching for ground as if a sprinter was searching for ground. Like that? We don't want to do that. We want to push. Good shot. Because the moment I go to shift in, if I go foot first, you can feel the power disappear.
Starting point is 00:06:42 If I go hip first, you're like, oh, push in the back. Before the hip, shift. There's wind of me. You just shift the hip without searching for ground. It's really, really hard to pattern that. See? That was really easy, but you've got to be snapping at it. The knee will still come.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Can we make it more about the hit before we get the knee? You blame Shay for this? I'm talking to Shay. Hey, I'm glad I retired. Hey, Joe. Yo, that's that, that's where, you know, the Samoans been lying up and just running into each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 That's that training. That's that right there, bro. That's what that is. I ain't going to lie to you. I don't know we're going to be able to use that over here too much because wouldn't they call that? a launch. It's a man.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It looks same foot, same shoulder. As long as you don't, like, he wasn't, he wasn't leaving his feet. Brough. You got to leave,
Starting point is 00:07:47 well, you're right. He might not. He wasn't launching. That was same foot, same shoulder. But if you hit, hey,
Starting point is 00:07:52 if you hit somebody like that and they flop and hit their back like that, they go, they go swerving down it's launching, because you're going to come off your feet in that process
Starting point is 00:08:01 of hitting him because you're going to be going through the body you're going to have to make sure you wrap up that thing. See, no, wrap that thing up. They're going to say, no, you hit him in his head. And don't nobody fall back that, fair. That's what, Debo, that looks like the way that your son hit buddy.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Same foot, same shoulder. He did not launch. When you hit somebody with your trajectory being way strong like that, you're going to make it look crazy. So long as Miles don't put his head into him, moves it to the side, it's going to look very violent. They need to slow down these hits, man, go on here and be like, Hey, man, look here, man.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That was a reaction from him getting bopped that his whole head came down on it. And he did all that to itself. He needed to get a stronger nut. That's what I'm trying to tell you. But when you get hit in your sternum at that type of speed, how you have no choice but the fold.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He tried to launch hair him. Boom. You know what I'm saying? Your whole just chest collapses. There's nothing you could do. Man. For real. Look here, man.
Starting point is 00:09:03 If he do this. Against San Francisco over there in Australia? Who you got winning that? I have the St. I mean, not the St. Louis, the Los Angeles Rams. You got the St. Louis Rams. I got the Los Angeles Rams, my brother. You got the Rams winning?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I got the Rams winning. Yep. It just is what it is. They got San Fran, got Mike Evans. You know, they got, hopefully George Kittle can come back and play. and Debo Samuels. But, uh... Yeah, I'm going, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I'm going with the Rams. You got to show me something. They still got Matthew Stafford. I'm rocking with them. Pooka, Pooko will be out there, Vante. I kind of just really wanted to go against you, I think. That's what it was. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I can't, you know, I can't jump on you no more. I told them to leave you alone about that other team, you know. So I can't really say nothing about it no more, I guess. Uh-huh. man Cowboys all pro tackle Sorry, left guard Tyler Smith
Starting point is 00:10:11 Is scheduled to undergo Thumb surgery Tuesday And expected to miss four To six weeks Right The earliest Smith could return Would be October 8th Against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Starting point is 00:10:25 Cowboys head coach Brian Schotton Schopenheimer On the injury He said, unfortunately, when you're an offensive lineman, you hold. That's what you probably put your hand, hold. Yeah, yeah. That's what you were doing.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah. Grip strength and things like that are really important. We know he's a quick healer, and we want to get it fixed, and he'll be back before too long. bruh when they say when the team says we know he's a quick killer they be pissing me off
Starting point is 00:11:09 stop it what you mean how you know he's not Wolverine you how you go to say this man to quick hiller what's you talking he's getting surgery on his thumb
Starting point is 00:11:20 did he get it before like you talk about you don't know how the surgery went but yeah he's a quick killer yeah I think this is going to be fine in no time listen they don't I don't
Starting point is 00:11:31 think people understand when you lose the use of your hand, especially your thumb? Brough, you know how hard it is to even catch a ball? Let alone take and punch a man and get him off of you or drive him
Starting point is 00:11:47 where you need him to go. And he got to have to play in the cast. They got to put one of those soft casts on and bend that thing back, man. It's going to be. Look, offensive alignment, I would say need their hand. Defense alignment.
Starting point is 00:12:01 could go club. Offense alignment, you're going to be holding. If you don't have that other hand, you're going to be getting dogged. Like, not in the bad way. Offense alignment can't hold. Once you get your hands inside. That's probably how he broke his thumb.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Hold on somebody. Oh, man, you literally, that's how my fingers get jacked up now. We hold it. I mean, you're trying a little bit holding. Your hands don't get messed up. A little bit. We hold. I mean, a little bit of a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Look, tough. Look, look. Look, tough. You hold it so tough. you're getting your thumb, bro. I can see like maybe a, you know, a pinky. You're always so tough you're breaking the thumb, Joe. Man, not me.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'm talking about the offense alignment. Goodness. My pinky got caught in the jerseys. Trying to get a low tug. Trying to get a little tug. Trying to get a little. You got your finger caught in that thing, and they cut and pop that.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Pop my own finger out. Joe, I used to tape everything up. So I would tape my hands. underneath my gloves to where my hands was just locked like this. And then I put my, I put my glove over the top. Dude, listen, I was jamming my damn thumb. Look at these knots on my thumbs. I was jamming my thumb so damn bad, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Like, I couldn't. I was like, yo, if I jammed my thumb again, and, like, you can't do nothing. I don't, you don't realize, like, what you do with your thumb, just to brush your teeth and all that, man. Like, everything. Eat, like going left-handed. And then when you mess up, you're right.
Starting point is 00:13:30 right and then you're left. Now you're just sitting there looking crazy. Like you can't even put food in your mouth. You can't even go out to eat, bro, without looking like you, a little kid. You know what I'm saying? They just started using their little teeny, bruh.
Starting point is 00:13:46 No, man. You ain't lying. You're up there like this. Eat like a little kid. Cizzer hands. Man, get out of here. I don't want to hear none of that. The Giants have released veteran rod receivers.
Starting point is 00:14:02 there is Slayden. Slayton, the fifth round pick in 2019, was the longest-tenured giant. The move saves the Giants, 3.2 against the 2026 salary cap. Slaten has signed a three-year deal, 36 million, with the Giants ahead of the 2025 season.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Now he's a free agent. He is eligible for waivers as a vested veteran and can sign elsewhere. Brah. Are you surprised by this? I am. I am. But at the same time, when you sign O
Starting point is 00:14:40 and they expect the neighbors to be able to come back and do what he got to do, they got a couple of receivers, and you know how it is, D. But when you start getting older and you're getting $12 million a year, they always... You only say...
Starting point is 00:14:54 Trying to try and fat. Like... I always say what? I said you only say 3.2, but you just say, signed him, not even, just last year. They don't care. Was he that bad?
Starting point is 00:15:16 I don't think so. And I can understand. That's just a bad GM deal. If he did, you mean, you're not, you're not liking what you, like you said, Debo. How old is all. If you'd have been playing, good enough for that, they would have kept them at the 12. But it's the what have you done for me lately? They don't give it that.
Starting point is 00:15:40 If the guaranteed is up, then they can. could just chop 3.6 is 3.6. Savage world. Savage. O's coming in for the low. That's what I want to know. Like, how old is old is old? See, probably 30, 33. How old is this cat, bro?
Starting point is 00:16:03 He can't be in this 30 yet, right? I don't think so. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pesto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers?
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Starting point is 00:20:47 No, he definitely not 33. Slate is 29. Yeah. Dude, he had to be playing bad. Bad? I don't know about how bad, but, dude, timing you get, we go. NFL. Did O sign more than one year?
Starting point is 00:21:13 No. No, sir. They let Juju go too, right? Yes. You signed it one year, 1.3? Yeah, one year, 1.3. Yep. Debo, like I said, it doesn't, when you, once you, and you notice, like, everybody, people just start disappearing in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like, if you're a wide receiver, you sign a contract. Once you get that second contract, if you're not hooping, if you're not ball, if you're not balling. Like, once that guaranteed is up, because most of the time, they're going to give it to you in your first year. So then the rest of the contract is performance-based. So they can really just chop you with nothing really owed, nothing happened. They're going to give you that first year, guaranteed money. Now, these next two seasons that you will have on this deal. Structure, yeah. What have you done for me lately? So it's really structured where, boom, we give you this guarantee first year. So it looks like $33 million. You get your 12 guaranteed the first season. Now, the next season, you can get $12 million. Or we're going to let you go for nothing because it's like, okay, that was a bad sign. We gave him the 12 for the first year. It didn't work out.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Gone. Like, my boy, disreceivers, like, Deonté Johnson, signs for a little bag. And the next you know is, soon as now, what have you done for me lately? Because you're making, as soon as you get into that double digits of making millions of dollars, they're looking at you now like it's per season. Once the guaranteed is up, it doesn't matter about none of this contract that you signed. You're guaranteed is up. If you're not performing to this $12 million a year,
Starting point is 00:22:48 we can chop you and now we can get somebody else for 1.3. When Odell comes in, it's like, I don't care what it looks like. We're able to bite this bullet. Like, no. Because when you start having to sign dudes on your team like Malik Neighbors, he's coming up. He's going to want 35. He's the top.
Starting point is 00:23:04 He feels like when you start getting a thousand-yard receivers, is that or it's nothing? You know what I'm saying? There's no middle ground. Those 13-15. Well, I would say, I would say not a thousand. Maybe you got to be somewhere, you know, in that 12. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:17 For sure. To get that. But they're not, it's, it's just, it's so hard to find that middle ground of the tears because when you got, 40s your one,
Starting point is 00:23:29 what do you pay a two? It's like, it's 22 enough, it's 12, then you have to still be balling. Do you know what I'm saying? Because it's like, you're not resetting the market.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Where do I fall? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I don't, that's, yeah. I think old got him. up out of here. Got him up out of there. 3.2.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Anybody else going to pick him up before clear waivers? I would think so. I mean, what? How does he? What do they got? They don't have to, the contract's done. So they could pick him up for whatever. He's not eligible for waivers as an investor player. Actually, he could sign wherever he want. That's what I'm saying. And it'd be whoever wants them. It's going to be a minimum, huh?
Starting point is 00:24:16 It ain't, it's 1.3. Whatever it is, go be a mental. Debo, they don't care. They let you all. And he's going to hopefully go back in wherever he goes. I will hope that he picks. If it's going to be 1.3, go somewhere that's airing it out. So you can go out there ball this year,
Starting point is 00:24:33 show that your stats are still good and you can go, you're going to go get more to that. This is where you go better on yourself. Go somewhere. If somebody's offering you three, man, bump, I'm going to go to the 1.3 with the fire quarterback. I'm going to get my reps. I'm going to get these catches.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm going to get ops. So now everybody sees, all right, that was just a down year. You got to perform now because now is, what have you done for me lately? Go hoop this year with a good quarterback. Now, okay, I'm free. Anybody needs somebody that can go deep. I'm right here chilling. I'm available.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah, for sure, brother. Look here. That's it. Oh, yes. All right, P game. It was good, coach. 20, 20, 20. Six.
Starting point is 00:25:17 NFL season. Kicks off. Tomorrow, Joe. Yes, it does. Patriots. Seattle. 820. Thursday.
Starting point is 00:25:31 49ers. Rams. 835. First ever. NFL game in Australia. Netflix. Y'all know they're going to have a hat. It's a halftime show for you.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Now, you know, next to Netflix did the halftime show. You know they do the halftime show. We go see what they got going on. But, Joe, you know what time it is. It's time for Player Fade, presented by Prospe. All right, Joe, you know how I go, man. It's been a while, though. It's been a while.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, sir. You go play it. You go fade it. And we're going to go with it. I have quarterback. Sam Darnock. I'm darnal. I got him for more than 0.5 passing yards.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Tuh. Okay. Check. All right. All right. Now, I also have J.S.N. Jackson Smith and Jingba. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I have him for more than one touchdown. 1.5, so you're going to get him one to-tty. That's a tutty. He'll get him. Yeah, he'll give him to tutty. Okay, start off the season. Brock Purdy. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I got him for less than 242.5 passing. Correct. Okay. Now, I have Miles Garrett for more than half a sack. and you changed it? They ended up changing it, so I had to change it. So it's more than 0.5 of a sack out half a mile scared. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Debo, just, yep, obviously the first one, Sam Darno, 0.5 pass yards. I could get that, Joe. We already, Debo, a thousand percent. I like you to throw a quick out. Jackson Smith and Jigba, got to get into this. zone. Got to get the teddy. Got to get into the zone.
Starting point is 00:28:07 He just signed in for the bag. $50 billion. First game of the season, it means they're going to be locked in, but I still like him to get into the zone. Brock Purdy under 242. Yes. Ram's defense is not going to be playing with, not rocking with that. Trent McDuffie and his boy walkers, they knew they show him they're not playing.
Starting point is 00:28:27 D-line getting after him. And Miles Garrett. Welcome to L.A., obviously. You know what I'm saying? Just one sack. Dug. Dug. Duh.
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Starting point is 00:29:05 for 150. Sorry, it's Debo Joe. I said Ann. It's Debo Joe. Debo Joe. To get $150 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup. Let's check out these super chats, Joe. Covered in live.
Starting point is 00:29:27 She back fired. Oh, it was. She said, Joe, I'm still waiting on that brown's jersey. I need it before your, I mean, all of fame. All the fame. What I say? Chill, Debo. Hey.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I need it before your Hall of Fame career takes off, and that jersey becomes a collector's item. You promised. Coveted it. Trust me. And I promise you, when I told you, I'm keeping my word. I got you the jersey. Promise you.
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Starting point is 00:30:14 He's not lying. He ain't got the answer. Before this, before this, before, before next Sunday, before next Sunday. Don't say nothing else, too. Covering the lights. She's back again, $10. That's covered.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Love it. She said, with joy coming off a great season, are the Steelers truly planning to build around him long term? Or are they quietly questioning whether he is their number one corner of the future. By the way, I love the new intro. Thank you, Cubbin. Thank you, Cove it. Build
Starting point is 00:30:48 around him, I would not even make that term. Nobody really builds around a corner. You get him to have him not allowed him to use parts of the field. What we go do,
Starting point is 00:31:06 I am not very confident in him being here after this current deal that basically, I feel like, puts him in that six or seven range. Worst case, a seven. Like, that's 30. Everything that we look at, your top, what is the top seven?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Almost my close to eight now. That's what I'm saying. It's 30. And that's the market. And it's not, and look, the salary cap ain't doing nothing but going up. Eventually the next market is when Tertan and them come back up, horn, it's going to be $36 million a year for the highest paid corner. So like, into the day, 30, it may not seem like a deal now, but. That 30 is a deal right now.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It's a deal. He stays there for the next. You had that deal for the next three years. In three years, it's going to be 42. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's going to be going up crazy to where every new corner that's getting up to that deal is going to start resetting the market, resetting the market.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And in three years, we've sitting at 42 million highest paid corner and Joey sitting at 30. We'd be looking like, okay, bet. Now we stole it. Like, just don't, like, why did we wait this long, bro? Like, we could have got this done before any of these deals got done. I know. Like, any of these deals,
Starting point is 00:32:41 stills got done. And we wait all the way until after training camp is over with to even send an official offer? Come on, man. I think when you're going in, I was hoping that they were thinking that you're going to get the biggest one done at the end, but that's what it's, that's the only way. You got, you got to think about this. And then, like, the guarantees now, dude, you got a hundred and two guarantee over here, bro. 101 and 102. They got a hundred and two guarantee. And if you're looking at, what's his name,
Starting point is 00:33:19 horn, he got 70 guarantee. Mm-hmm. You got it. What? 83, 80, close to 90 for a guarantee. If, man. See, and like, her, her contract was 100 mil with 42, 42 guarantee.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I don't think this Right, so you're basically looking at what A signing bonus in a year, a two years? Yep A sign the bonus in a year. So basically you're looking at two years after that. Two years. That's it.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Two years. Yeah. Because it's 50s is two years. Signed bonus is 20 million. Okay. So it's two years. Yes. Based that year, you get the other rest of the second year.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You get 22, boom. And now, yep. Now you to the. ball out or? No, that's only two years. No, no, he's signed four, right? That's what I'm saying, Odebo. It's ball out.
Starting point is 00:34:21 He had one left on there, so it's really five, as you said. Yes. So he got three left. When I'm saying ball out, when I'm saying ball out with Herbic, it means now you don't have any guaranteed money. So you're getting paid $20 million a year to continue to continue to continue to ball because there's no guarantee left there. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:42 So they can come. You start not playing well. They can always, no, we're going to let you go. You got to re-restructure. Right. But also you can go in there and ball, ball, ball. Now you're at the top of your game. I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And you still got three left. Yeah. And like you said, he did it for what, a 20, 25 piece in the top is 50. By time, that time, come around the top might be 60. And he had a 25 piece. Yeah. And he could be the top. But yeah.
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Starting point is 00:37:03 Every week, we preview the games that matter, sort through the biggest storylines, and tell you what to watch before kickoff. There's a lot to keep track of. Who's for real? Which upset is hiding in plain sight and which storyline is about to take over your group chat? And when the games are over, join us in the aftermath too. We're going to react to what happened,
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Starting point is 00:40:01 She said, Joe, with that outfit, I'm convinced you're not just a sports fan anymore. What? You're the commissioner of all sports. Go ahead. Tank, purple hat, shades and chain. You came dressed like Game 7 and Super Bowl. Sunday at the same time. Come on, coveted.
Starting point is 00:40:23 That's what I'm saying. I'm here for all sports. Basketball, football, college, football, golf. I'm here for it all. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm a representation of a sports fan. When I see me, you see me where the Lakers? Where's the golf at?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Where's the golf at? Got my golf hat right here. But you ain't, you ain't have it on, Joe. Because I can't just be rocking all sports every time. I switch it up. Dude, it's been golf. summer. You ain't never put it on. I have golf. I've wore this golf hat.
Starting point is 00:40:54 There you go. It's all good, Debo. You wasn't paying it to a coveted life as recognized that I've been wearing some golf hats. This is not a golf hat. Basketball, snapback, Lakers. So I switched the vibes up. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. You're right. You're right. You might be right. Mike you, Debo. I'm saying it might be. I'm not really just saying like you are. It's all good. Man. I appreciate the love, Debo. Mike. Mike, $105. He said, what up, Debo and Joe?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Joe, did your league have your fantasy draft yet? Which Stiller and Browns player did you get? Which Stilers and Browns players did you get? Oh, well, speaking, did you have your draft yet? Yeah, I did. Yes, I did. And I ended up getting, on my receivers, I ended up getting Concepcion and I got Denzel Boston.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Mm. Mm-hmm. Boston and Concessionian. Mm-hmm. And then in my other- Who throwing the ball? Who throwing the ball? I got Josh Allen as my quarterback.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Oh, love. Yep. But your guys still got to get numbers where they're really at, though, right? No, no, no. I mean, yeah, yeah, yes, yes. Okay, so like I said, who's throwing them the ball
Starting point is 00:42:12 so that you can get the numbers for Austin and Concepcion? That might have been a mistake. Right now, right now, they're not my starting receivers, though. That's what I'm saying. I got them on the squad, but they haven't starting yet. So who are your starters, Joe? Who am I starting receivers?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Yeah. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Can you just take whoever you want? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, because it's a draft. It's 12 teams. So you get to go through, it's literally like the draft. You go 1 through 12, and then it goes back 11 to 1. Then it goes like that like a snake draft.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So you get the pick. All the wide receivers, all the running back, Bejohn Robinson is number one, when number two, Gibbs went number one, then Jamar Chase, went number three, then Puka. So you want to get running backs, receivers.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Those go first. The best ones, they go. So you got to kind of figure out then when you want to get your quarterback. Quarterback kind of goes maybe third round. Josh Allen was the first quarterback taken. I went and got him because he gets rushing yards, brushing touchdowns, and passing yard.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would you draft the receiver first instead of the quarterback? Because quarterbacks, there's a lot of quarterbacks, and quarterbacks all get yards. So no matter what, if you pick Matthew Stafford, he's going to go a little bit later in the draft because all quarterbacks still can throw for 300 yards, three touchdowns. But when you get a receiver that's going to snap a number one receiver, he's getting the ball basically every week and it's going to ball for you.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And that's what I don't know. It's running backs and receivers. are the best people to get for fantasy, you can get your quarterback a little bit later. That's just what people have taught me. Okay. I don't know. Because you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I'm going to check that out, man, because I don't understand that. I think the chat will understand that if they play fantasy, if they play fantasy. Okay. Jackson Smith and Jigba. What still those players you got?
Starting point is 00:44:11 I got, uh, see, look, this is, because look, the thing is sometimes when the players that you want are going to, he ain't got no Steelers. He ain't got no Steelers. I do.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I do. I do. I got D.K. I got D.K. McHath on one of my leagues, and I got the Steelers defense. Okay. Yep. So my receivers are Jackson Smith and Jigba. I got J. Dub from the, from the Lions. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Boom. And Higgins, T. Higgins. You going with enemies? Listen, D.bo.
Starting point is 00:44:49 What is you doing? Sometimes I just, look, not, but I got to go with the best players. He was the least left. Heings is nice. You ain't got, you. You ain't got, you. I do have loyalty. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:45:01 But I need you. No, you know, man. Man, I got a little bit. Only thing you got to do, Joe, is stay black and die. That's it. I hear you. That's it, Joe. I told you what my mama said.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Huh? I told you what my mama said. That's what my mama said. Blacks. My mama said. My mama said, you got. Mama said, mama say, kamakusa. Hey, hell.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Heckelsane, $5. He said, four-year deal at $220 million plus $220,000. Huh? 120 million. He said a four-year deal at $120 million plus $20K performance based incentives. We're going to have to go more than that. Oh, he's saying $20 million, I guess. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:46 $20 million. Ain't nobody going to do no $20 million. No. make base incentives to make the deal. $35 million deal. Joe, well, Joey Porter, Jr., J.P.J. has to earn the extra five, it would be five mil. I think he's saying five mil a year.
Starting point is 00:46:10 100 million guarantee 30 base. Hey, listen, I like it. I love the deal. We, we don't know where around. saying the same man yes what you're saying if that was after we already
Starting point is 00:46:28 know he would have signed that because we know where he wanted to be we're taking that for sure right 30 60 90-90 20 yes 4 for 120 is unbelievable they would have him for five year 124 million good to go
Starting point is 00:46:43 easy signing that goodness we got I think it's too L-K Cal, $5.00. Said, yo, what's good? Been watching y'all since day one.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yep. Don't always make the lie, but I be watching. But where do you think the Steelers defense will rank with 18? By week 18. By week 18.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Mm-hmm. I can't give you, I can tell you where I want them to rank. One. I can give you a better hypothesis because I'm going to get some education in the process watching them for four weeks where I feel like they'll be ranked.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Right now, I feel like minimum as a stiller, as a organization, as the Pittsburgh Steelers, as what the Steelers have been known for, and that's good deal, minimum is your top 10. That's a prerequisite for me. Yep. Same for me too. I feel like top five, top 10 is done, but top five, when we talk about the other two
Starting point is 00:48:22 defenses, I'm looking at Houston and I'm looking at Denver, and I think that we should be able to, as far as talent-wise, name base, we should be able to stand up right there with them. Nobody should be able to take advantage of us. They have to earn everything they get. If there's no bust, if there's nobody running Scott-free through our defense, then you're going to have to earn everything you get. And I don't know how with T.J., with Cam, with Highsmith, with Herbic,
Starting point is 00:48:48 with that D-line, and with Houston's defensive line, I don't see, like when we go name-for-name ball for ball. I like to see us out there consistently playing at a high level. So I see us in top five when the dudes are out there, name-wise, balling. secondary, Jalen Ramsey, Sean, the new corner we got, Sean Dean,
Starting point is 00:49:07 and then Jalen Ramsey, and then we got my boy that's playing. Asante Samuel Jr., he's still first round pick balling and playing to his level that he's capable of playing at. It could get ugly,
Starting point is 00:49:17 but we still got to make sure they still got to go out there and play the game. The same way with the Rams, talking all of this, who, on paper, on paper, you want to have a good on paper because obviously you know,
Starting point is 00:49:27 you've seen them do it before. You know they have potential to be great. So you obviously need have it on paper, but they got to show it to you, like, do it throughout the season. So on paper, five, top five, for show, but you got to come, you got to show it. I would, on a realistic tip, I guess I would say just from what I've seen, as long as we can calm down or be more consistent on not letting big plays get through. Rather it be runs or passes, I'm feeling,
Starting point is 00:50:10 I'm feeling our worst case should be maybe a seven. I'm feeling best case, three. Yeah. Three. You make a good point. It's run defense and big explosive plays on offense, I mean, in the past game. Like, just don't let burst.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Don't we having those wide-up in gaps. It's some, just, just, win like every single play. It's no like, oh, because the thing is, sometimes we can't tell it's not bad. It's one person getting beat on this play. Then the next play, somebody else gets beat. It's the consistency of just doing your job,
Starting point is 00:50:51 staying in your gap. You know what I'm saying? Then it'd be two-yard gains, one-yard gains. You know what I'm saying? Like, just that is what it is. Don't let some gap be busting wide open. Everybody gaps being in control of your stuff. Yeah, you can't, you can't get pushed off the ball.
Starting point is 00:51:07 you can't get pushed around. You can't get stuck on blocks. You have to be able to work off your block, make the play. If you're doubled, you got to hold that double. You can't get pushed back. You can't let them rub double up to stuff. And then if they do double, we got to get them linebackers coming down and get off that double as fast as they can so he can get singled up.
Starting point is 00:51:29 You get singled up and y'all both get gapped out. Yep. Yeah, I'm... We know we're hopeful. But Debo, you know, that's, we know, we know you got to see it. We know what we're hopeful. We know what we want to see. But then now you've got to go do it.
Starting point is 00:51:49 So we can't just be like, okay, yeah, I know we're looking for it. Can't be letting people do this. But that's the thing. When we're watching these games, we're looking for what's going on, not just, what the hell going on? It's like, no, no, no. We got to watch and see who the hell is getting beat. Why is this going on?
Starting point is 00:52:03 Do you know what I'm saying? Right. Right. Right. Yeah, you got to sit. Well, see, we got a better. understanding of what's going on. You're like, yo, that's either this or that.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I don't know. It's one, but it's this or that. Yes. And I think that's being able to be a critique and it's not like we're just bashing. When you know, because you played the position, you know where you should be on certain spots. Is this your, are you peeking? Are you doing the wrong things?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Like, those are individual things where it's discipline, where you can just literally say, you're not talking trash. You're like this. I've been where you are at. You need to not be in here peeking and letting them. man, get on the outside. That's what he ran for 20 fucking yards. I'm not talking trash.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I'm just telling you what it is. Like, that's not okay. Do your job and then help your partner. Don't sit there being nose. He's trying to make a play that ain't yours before it's time for you to try and make that play after he has already got past where he can get back to you. You out here piccabooing. No, ain't no peekaboo, man.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's the worst thing in the world. Come on. When you peekable as a delineman, you're killing your linebacker. You're killing. Whichever way you go, go decisive. Go some way so I know I can make you right. Yes, even if you go wrong, go wrong 100%. So then I know I got to correct you here instantly.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So you got you shuffling. Now I'm shuffling. Now both of us looking crazy. Yeah, yeah, facts. Facts, bro. Look here, baby. We got football tomorrow. We got football Thursday.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah. Okay. Look here. We got Debo and Joe Friday. Yes. And and listen, you better be here. You better be here. You better do what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Because Friday. Friday going to be given away two sets of two tickets to the Pittsburgh Steelers home opener. Yes. Atlanta. Get high. Atlanta. Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Had them in the building.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Look here. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this episode of Debu and Joe. Please make sure you like. Like, like, like, like. Like right now. Like.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. Man, we got to get to 100,000 before the season to start. Now, come on now. We need 10 more money. some change. We need to jump it up. Get it up.
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