Nightcap - Deebo & Joe- Part 2: Johnny Manziel MMA Debut, Caleb Williams Development, Knicks Courtside Tickets Cost

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Johnny Manziel making his MMA debut, the cost of New York Knicks playoff courtside tickets, and much more! Timeline:00:00 - Caleb Williams Development11:24 - Johnny Manziel MMA Debut18:23 - Cost of Knicks courtside tickets25:08 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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take what the defense is giving him. Barrett says Caleb could save energy by simply foregoing some of the wilder plays in favor of hitting open pass catchers underneath. He said late in some of the games, he was making some heroic plays, but it wasn't necessary if we execute in the first quarter and second quarter. we might be up two touchdowns by time we get to the fourth quarter. We'd be effective and take what, sorry, we'd be efficient and take what the defense is giving us. You don't necessarily have to put on a cape and make those crazy plays because you're already, because you're already were killing them in the first, already were killing them in the first three quarters. Joe, why you think the quarterback coach on Caleb,

you think it's a good thing, bad thing? How do you look at this? I look at it as a good thing. It's not bad that he's speaking on Caleb like this. I think it's high praise. You know, being able to do the Superman throw, being able to get out of the pocket, being able to have that in your bag is amazing.

You know what I'm saying? Being able to have a couple bag of tricks. People, all the other quarterbacks, a lot of ones can't throw on the run, can't move the way that he does. He's just saying, you can make it so much easier on yourself to where you can, you don't have to get into your death.

Having that is amazing, but sometimes the simple pass being able to just read it, get it out of your hands a little bit quicker, is you don't have to pull out the cape. He's not saying knowing that you have it, that's great. But sometimes you're pulling it out too early. You know what I'm saying? Where there's simple plays where you could just make this checkdown,

make this throw, there's other windows, and then you're extending the play when it doesn't need to be extended. You're making razzle-dazzle, where it doesn't need to be razzle-dazzle. When we have certain plays, when it's executed, there's timing on some of these stuff. So just, boom, plays open right there, hit it, and then we can go to the next one.

Instead of, ah, hold on, boom. Now, you're just making, you're creating something else, which is great. You got that in your bag. But you can make it so much easier on yourself to where, boom, the first one's not there, hit the second one. You know what I'm saying?

So he's just saying, you could be already up two touchdowns to where we didn't have to have you doing all of these wild stuff to where simply dinking, you know what I'm saying? you're making the place when it needs to be made, and now we're up 21 points to where now you're having to pull something out of hat in the fourth quarter and make crazy plays to bring us back in the game. When we're up 21 now, we're handing the ball all. We're running out clock.

Simply just chilling to where we're relaxing and there's nothing that we have to worry about. So it's not, he's not knocking that. He's like, whoa, you're amazing, but you can make the game so much simpler for yourself. So I think it's a good thing that he's just coaching him up. I'm still saying that he has a lot. that he has a lot to grow from, but he's not saying do less. You don't have to do as much,

but I love that you can do that, but you don't have to put yourself in that position as much. Yeah, he's, you know, I think he's being a good coach. He's trying to improve his player, you know, year in and year out so that he's not, you know, regressing and letting you know, yo, this is where you need to improve. Like, so you need to go and, you know, process things faster

so that you can see those passing windows so that you can get them faster, so that you can recognize, you know, the defense that you're looking at and get the ball where it should be. You know, his completion rate was, what, like 58%? That's not really high. He had seven interceptions, but when you look at it, it should have been more than that. I think we dropped two of them in the game we played against it. And when you look at the pro football focus, they're saying he had 19 worthy turnover plays where basically they dropped 12 that should have been turned over.

So it should have been 19 turnovers. And that's, again, another part of him taking unnecessary risks and, you know, not taking what he said, like the defense giving him. He's not taking what the defense is giving. He's going and he's not processing the thing fast enough to get it out to where he could have got it into, you know, somebody's hands fast enough. And I think the worst thing that happens is, especially in coaching, is that you get a player that's good or that's excellent. And then the coach thinks, oh, I don't got to coach him anymore. Yeah. I don't, you know, I don't have to do anything to improve them.

You know, they're where they're at. It's nothing else that I could do, you know, coaching-wise. And that's wrong, especially when you go for a quarterback. The big thing with a quarterback is they have to know everything on the offensive side. So the only way to increase them in their, you know, ability to do things is increasing their knowledge and processes of what it is that they're looking at so that they can get the ball out quicker. Like quarterback, he has to know what everybody is doing on the field. So in that process, at least a good one, you know, in that process, he has to know that. Now, when you're on the defensive side, you know, I can increase my skill level easily just by knowing what I'm doing first and foremost.

Now, after that, I need to know what the people are around me doing. Yes. So that's going to increase my knowledge of what he's doing, what he's doing. Now, if I go into this defense as a quarterback would in the offense and not, everybody on that defense knows what's going on. And like when you look at our defense from 2002, four, from 2004 is about 2012. You had a group of guys that played with each other five,

six, seven, eight years. And they had the knowledge of what everybody was doing. They were down pat or what they were doing. And then they had a knowledge and understanding of what everybody else around them was doing so that they could help their partner. So when it came down to it and, you know, we got into a, frame of where, you know, you were having different guys switching in and out. And then you were having younger guys coming in.

Like, you got a younger guy coming in that don't have a complete concept of Dick LaBow's defense. That's hard to get to. When you're not 100% sure on just your assignment and you're being put in there, like, that's going to drastically drop your defensive production. And that's what we were dealing with, you know, at a point where, you know, they finally didn't resign Coach LeBow. It's like he was, he was having to start younger players that didn't have

a full concept and grasp of the defense. And then it was things that were having to be changed so they didn't have to know as much of the defense. And when you do that and you force things like that, you take away other things like we had said before. So the big thing is like making sure you're improving your player every year. Like with coach butts, like, okay, I knew what I was doing now. What I need to do?

I need to know what my corner doing. I need to know what my life is doing. I need to know what my safety doing. I need to know what my inside linebacker doing. until I can get to the point to where I know at least what this half of the defense is doing. And once I got to that, then I would start going over a little further. Because when it come down to it, it's parts of the job where I would be seen. Like, I'm seeing him on two, the slot.

I'm on the slot, do it. And I know that if I let him inside, I'm in trouble. I cannot let him inside because he's going to be running free because I know the guys here, they're going to be gone. Yeah. The last thing I could do is let him inside. I don't care if he beats me outside. There's less room there.

I got sideline to help me. but I damn sure can't let him in. A thousand percent. We're speaking on learning, learning your jobs. You know what I'm saying? Making sure that you know the nuances. And when I talk about the quarterback position, Debo, is the hardest position to play. I think it's because it's above the neck.

It's mental. Like, they have to know when you say in a coach on the field, when you were a deep, like you said, you learn it. You learn seeing. I'm a corner at first. I'm learning man to man, cover two, cover three. I'm trying to learn to play. I got to know my job.

then when I start knowing what I got to do, I know what my safety got to do, but then I learn what the D-lines got to do. I know where my running angles are. Like, I got outside. So you just start to learn everything. Then I start learning where the linebackers are, and you start learning every single coverage

where everybody's doing. And that takes a little time, but then that's when you start to really know what's going on around you and where your help's coming from and who you can help, but you're still maintaining your job. Quarterback, you got to know the running back's jobs,

every single part of his job, everything. All, every single receiver, the tight ends, the linemen, the checks when people are moving. Then when you're getting good at quarterback, you know every defense that you're going against. You know who you're watching when they motion. So you're playing a chess game with the other team. When you're young, you're just out there playing football.

You just out there, okay, I got this man. Boom. You don't understand the grand scheme where the coaches are looking from the outside and down, setting up this play to run this play. When you're a good quarterback, you're setting up the defense for plays for another play that you already know that you're going to run. So quarterbacks are also coaches. So the more that you know,

the more that these receivers know what this running back's doing, what my linemen is doing, what everybody's doing, that's how your team gets better. So with Caleb, he has all the natural ability. The younger and the great players, you want to get coached.

Your coaches are helping you get better. They're not going to be able to ones playing, but they're helping you break down these defenses. So you know when this safety drops, what I'm looking at, where my hots are, where I'm going to go. You're just in control. So the more with him coaching by this, I'm trying to make it easy for you, Caleb.

I'm so glad that you can get out of stuff, escape, make these throws unbelievable. But when you know what's going on, when you start looking people off, you're literally with eyes moving people and then throwing over here because you know where you need to go. You didn't have to make a step. You just literally, boom, throw a shoulder over there. You know, this is how they're moving. And now you got a whole shot to the right. So just coaches being able to put their players in great positions, he's great.

He can make that throw in his sleep. But he might just be doing too much looking around on and on. No, Caleb, you need a little shoulder. And now you can hit that in the window. You got the arm, you got the thing. You just need to get on time knowing where these people are going to be at. So good coaching and great players want to get coach. He doesn't see this as a bad thing.

He's like, I'm going to say, I'm that man. And he just wants me to be able to do it even more chill. You know what I'm saying? So when I do got to do the other stuff, I can do that. But I'm just relaxed. I'm poised. I'm not getting a hit. I'm in total control.

I know what everybody's at. I know what all the defense. is doing. So this is just learning great coaches. They say this because they just, they see they, you're never perfect. Nobody's never perfect. And the coach is always going to be able to coach you up. And great players are always going to want to get coach because you know what you did wrong. It looks good. I said. Yeah, I made these plays and I. Like, ah, like this one, I got hit on my, my hands weren't on the right spot. You know what I'm saying? Like my eyes were in the wrong spot. Well, same thing. You know, like you get the quarters and you got, you get quads away from you.

Like, why am I even dropping anywhere over here? I need to be dropping something coming back right now. Yes. I got to help. Like, yo, hey, I'm going to go. Don't be a cover of grass. Let one go. Let one go.

I'm communicating that. So they ain't even wasting their time with it. Yes. Some guys are like, no, I just, I'm here. I'm waiting on the two to come. No, dude. No. Talk.

Look over here. You got to talk. You got to get over here. Because it's coming now. When they get there, you got to be there waiting on it. Yep. For show, for show, bro. Listen, man.

Mm-hmm. He dominated in his MMA debut. Hey, hey, he says he won't fight again, dude. He said he won't fight again, dude. Yeah, Johnny Mansell, baby. He said, uh, bro, oh, Bob Miner. That's who it is. He beat up Bob Minery.

There, you're born. And, yeah, and the first, first round stop is victory, Sunday, Saturday night at the UFC Apex Center in Las Vegas, bro. They fought in Vegas, bro. Yeah. They showed off some skills as a fight. Listen, bro, he was kicking his dog shit out of him, man. Did you see it? Yes. Yes. Okay. I saw it. My man, I called him.

It was hot too many. He came out there with them hot feet. That boy was using them feet first. I don't think Bob was expecting him to use his feet. Did you see how he came out immediately and Bob went to like jumping like he was running back, scared, bro? Oh, yeah, man. I didn't go lie, but I thought Johnny was a little more of a naturally leaner person. What you mean?

He looked like he put on a little bit of weight, man. I thought I've been retired for a minute, you know what I'm saying? Johnny would be on the bruise. He'd be chilling. Johnny, he's not too. He don't be in the weight room like that. Yeah, he said afterwards that he was, yeah. That was good enough.

He said one time was good enough, bro. Yes. Because my man was out there talking that. trash and I didn't think he was a professional fighter either. Johnny, no, we're not getting in there versus no pros, birth nobody else. He's like, who, who you? Bob, you think you, now I'll whip you, Bob.

Oh, you, oh, oh, you? Oh, I'll whip you Bob. Come on. Right now. Listen, easy. He went in there, kicked him up. You know what I'm saying? Gave me a little Goldberg tackle. Then got on top of my man started hitting him with the drummer boy, the ground of the pound. Hey, listen, he got tired on the ground and pound,

though. Bro, both of them was poop. Hey, he was, he was, hey, he was. He was, he was. I was, I was, like, he started. I'm like, he got to gas out. Yeah. Finish him. Brow, Bob, Bob. He's like, he about to gas out.

Yeah. And then, look, your man, Bob. He might have gassed out. After he hit your man, Bob, I'm like, what? What do you mean? What do you mean? I'm like, Bob. He was on top of you did drumming and bore your head.

You had to stop it. Right. His face was, did you see him after where his whole forehead was just lit? Brother, yes. It looked like he, like, it looked like he had in like a little motorcycle accident. Like he hit the concrete. Brough. His face was a little scratched up.

Bro, did you see the... Go ahead. Please tell me. You're going to say which one I'm talking about. Is Stevenson and Beasley fight? Okay. Yes, I did see the Michael Beasley. Right.

I ain't going to lie. The first couple seconds when Beasie were throwing the hands, I was like, oh, he might... Beasley wanted to stay on feet. I was like, he might get in that word. Yes. It's the...

It's the UFC element of it. of you will get choked. It's not just boxing. You will get kicked in the head. You can get kneed. And when somebody gets you in the near-recogn, in the near-naked, whenever the sleeper-hold choked is.

And listen, he ain't get him in a real-necked choke, man. Brother. He charged him. He got him down, bro. He did. Did you see his face when he was trying to hold onto that boy head under there? Because he knew as soon as he got out from under that, man. He knew it was over.

He knew it was on. See, that's what I'm saying. Not me. I'm not getting out there. I'm not getting an headlock. Bro. Not, sir, I'm too old for that, man. My dog's out there getting it in. But the let... Did you see Ray J. Bray? Brough.

Dibbo? Dibbo? Listen, bro. I'm trying to... I'm still trying to figure it out. Listen. I saw... I saw him hitting with the right, right? But he hit him down here, right here. And he got a knock. on his forehead. How you get hit in the face

on the knee to chin and get a knot on your forehead, bro? You tell me this right now. You tell me this right now, Debo. Why, when he got hit, I thought my TV started lagging. Because he just, he froze. I said, oh.

And then he got the grab of the joke. I said, oh, my God. He's stunned. He stunned. My TV froze. That's what I said, whoa. He said, I was saying, oh my goodness.

Is he going to fall? Then he started falling forward and grabbing him. He said, oh, the one wish. Hey, the one wish, my man, the funny is so hard, bro. Super hot hit him so hard. It ain't even registered for a couple of seconds. It didn't register. He didn't know what happened.

That don't hit him. It didn't compute. Boop. Oh, he hit me. His whole body just said, nope. Nope, not right now, bro. Boom. Dibbo, that was hilarious.

Did you, Debo, did you hear what he was saying? Hey, after the fighters, he thought they had a plan. He wasn't going to go. Come on, bro. We in cahoots, bruh, you're going to really do this to be. I don't want to say nothing, get nobody in trouble, no. I don't want to say this to get nobody in trouble, but, hey, really, bro. Hey, listen, bro, I'm trying to tell you, don't go out there fight nobody with a plan that y'all think y'all go work together.

Don't go out there and rob a back with Ray J. Once he getting that, once one person, you know, one person, you don't person gets hurt or hit, period, hit. Soon as somebody get hit, that plan going out the window, they swing a haymakers. Everybody got a plan until, because Hot Fah was skipping around. He wasn't even trying to fight for real. And Ray J. was throwing him, hitting him, you know what I'm saying? And then he threw one, yum, and took off his Wi-Fi.

And he hit him, boy, that whole thing. That it rebooted. Rebooted. The little circle thing started going on the TV. It was dial-up. Dial-up, for sure. That was... He heard it.

He just hit your shit. He just hit me. He just hit me. Bruh. That was crazy. He was talking about, you know, not to rob a bank with Ray J. I'm trying to tell you. No, he's telling.

He said, bro, really? To me? Willie? Hey. He said, bro. He said, we lost the night, bro. We lost. Hell no, you lost.

Hell, no. You lost the night. He said, hey, he sounded like you, Joe. We lost the night. Nah, you lost. Bro. No, man, you lost the night. That was actually hilarious.

Joe. Oh, man. Look here. My dog, Johnny came through. Who, what's up? John, yeah, Johnny came to show for show. For sure. Look here, man.

This is what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. This is. This. This. This. This. This.

Side tickets. listed at 595,000 for the NBA finals. Uh-huh. The Knicks are one-win away from making it. Well, they're going to win tonight. We already know that. So, and when they come down to it, they said already for the, uh, it's two tickets, Corside and Madison Square Garden that are listed at $595,000.

Who is buying that ticket, Joe? Man. This is what I'm talking about. That's why they can't win. That's why, yes. That is crazy work. They said two of them. Two!

No, no. Ro three. Row three already sold for $139,000 for one ticket. So it's two of them for like $280,000 for row three. And they already sold. Not even on the floor. You're not even on the court. You're not your feet on on the wood.

those numbers is crazy. But, I mean, if you can get it, you can get it, I mean, you can go ahead. What? I'm not, I don't know who's buying that ticket, Debo. I don't know who bought a $138,000 ticket. That's crazy numbers. But somebody, I mean, I don't know. People get into it right now.

That's just that, that's crazy. But $139,000 is crazy for a ticket. Ain't nobody go be at that game, Burr. brother that game's going to be sold out not at $595,000 for two tickets I tell you this it's going Who is paying that bro? It might not sell for this

It might not sell for this Because the tickets The tickets are actually probably only These are all aftermarket tickets So it's only worth what somebody's willing to pay That's the crazy part So the tickets on probably Maybe 15,000, 20,000

for the court sides on a base value. Man, how much a ticket going for in Cleveland right now? $5 for its floor seats. How dare you? The cash tickets, bro. No, like, right now, I would say they can go $50.

$5.50? $5. $10? $10? No, $10,000. And nobody paying $10,000 to go out there and watch them get tickets. And everybody's there. All the seats are sold out,

D. Beau. Yes, it's happening. When it was last, when it was the finals games, the tickets was 25 to 30,000, like 25 to 30,000 for the court size back in 2016 when Brown was there. Well, yeah, that was. And when you go to Golden State, Golden State was selling theirs, there. But it was 100, 100 something to get in Golden States.

So people are paying it. They got, that's, you know, we watch. Or I was how old at my man, Dan, I got to get him a ticket value. I'm trying to get ticket value. I can't be spending that. Hell no. The ticket value. What?

What? For one night? Then ticket, but I'm talking about a ticket with the, with the discount, I'm getting my, you know, friendly. I can't, you know what I'm saying? Nothing, nothing crazy. $595,000. No. A couple hours. What?

Who? Uh-uh. No. For what? I don't understand. No. I understand. I'm with you, Debo.

Neither am I. Neither am I. Bro, I could have 50 billion I ain't paying that. But this is the other part, too, those. So most of these, like, yeah. The $595,000 Devo, I can't understand it. That is an astronomical amount of money. But it's only what somebody's willing to pay.

So somebody to say they had the court-side tickets. What's up? What's the most you would pay? For, now I'm not going to. Y'all about to sweep New York. You're about to sweep New York. Most hours, man. To go to the to the finals.

No, I'm going to cast versus, go into state. You know what I'm saying? In Cleveland, game seven, finals. I'm paying for because I, me and my lady because she's probably going to want to go too. So I'm going, I know Dan and them, they're going to look out.

They looked out for me for doing the finals. But if it was, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Tell me, no lookout. Ain't no lookout. We're going straight. Game seven. Fame, what's doing?

You're a fan. You ain't got, you don't know nobody, man. Right now, I'm going, all right. All right, I'm not, this is business. I'm going. I'm I do 20. I'll do 20. A ticket?

Yep. Joe. Joe. Is that love? Joe. Is that love, Debo? Can I say love? Christmas.

Can I say love? 20, 40. Joe. That's just once in a lifetime. That's once in a lifetime. 40, Joe. I go 40 for the lifetime. Joe, I can do so much with that.

Over a year. You're talking about. Two hours, three hours. How many times we're going to ever make it? That's what I'm looking at. Never again. Lifetime experience. So that's a lifetime experience.

Never again. It's something like the Cleveland Browns are going to the Super Bowl. See, that's something that's not too crazy. What's not too crazy? The Browns. Going where? The Subpo. But not, not this season, saying that this season that this season that we,

be crazy. But in the near future, I can see it. Especially with the new stadium. Come on, Deepo. So we got. What's up? Stop it. We're getting talent. Just keep watching. Just keep watching. Ever since we started

this show, we haven't been doing nothing but getting better. First season, now we're going to see how many wins we get this season. Watch. You already said y'all getting what? 12. No, it's 8 to 10. 8 to 10? Yeah.

Okay. Maybe even 11. 8 to 10, maybe even 11. That's a big range. Give me something that's a little. No, minimum 8. Minimum 8. Minimum 8.

Minimum 8. Minimum we go 8 and 9 and we'd be like, dang. 8.9. Yeah. That's good. That's good progress for y'all because y'all, y'all do it. Definitely good progress. but it's still not, we wouldn't be happy.

I don't know about that. I kind of felt like I felt happy in your voice when you said, 8 and 9. I'm just saying. Let's jump into the super chat. We got Mike and Mike. He said, what a D-1 joke? He said, y'all know Burrell will be a bangle for life

and put up with all the bungling for the rest of his career. I don't know about that. I think Joe Burrow is a smart individual. I think he could sit back and sort of see the writing on the wall if it gets to that point, which I think it's about to get to when they don't turn this thing around in the manner in which they thought they would with the players that they acquired. I believe he will see the light. that is lacking at the end of the tunnel

and realize it's not in the Cincinnati tunnel that you get like it's only in the Pittsburgh tunnel. Look, only way Joe Burroughs gonna be able to get out of there, I don't think they're gonna let him out. He's gonna have to start acting disgruntled.

And I don't want him to start acting disgruntled. I want him to do what he gotta do, try to go see what's going on. but that's a franchise quarterback. The Bengals would try to hold him hostage. I don't see why they would ever try to let him go. So he would have to be like, look, I don't want to be here no more. You dudes are not looking out and not getting the line.

I'm not getting protected. So for the Bengals, there's no reason why they would ever let him go. I'm with you. But if Joe Burrow starts to really act like he wants to go and starts to start being like, look, all you got to go and say you're not happy, Joe, you need to be protected. And that's it. I need, you got to let me go. Right now, what he's saying, but he's not giving, he's not speaking that tone right now.

Right now, I'm liking what we got. But it's showing that they didn't ask him what his input was. So he's not feeling as involved as he should. Like, if you want to be my, if I am the quarterback, I'm thinking he's always going to be involved in the franchise of seeing what's going on. Do you like the moves, Joe? Okay. They didn't ask him.

He's letting him know. I like, I see what y'all did. I wasn't involved. So if it's not good, I think he would have to be like, man, listen, y'all, a while I don't want to be here no more, I keep being hit upside the head. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm just saying the man said, hey, I ain't got nothing to do with they done and did. But what they done did, they then brought some good players, and I like the energy that is over here. So let's do it.

What else he's supposed to say, though, you know? If you want to get up out of it, he got to be like this, man, they ain't give me nobody to protect me. I'm still going to get hit upside the head. like them, but damn. You know, we got shade. Rodriguez, $51, $53, $20, said,

Debo and Joe, everyone looks at me crazy when I tell them we can have the most anticipated elite offense in the league. DK, MPJ,

Dowdle, Warren, Washington, Pat, Aaron, tell me, tell my folks they tripping please. What do you think, Joe?

I think that she's valid. I don't know why that this is something that I believe, too. I believe with D.K. Metcalf is D.K. Metcalfe. You know what I'm saying? Pittman Jr. is a big body that really went out there at 1,300 yards.

You know what I'm saying? Jalen Warren. Stop playing with us, man. The baller. Rico Donald, he did not just go out there and not do that. Not playing with two back to back thousands. Stop. the biggest tight end.

Like, he's, he's a left tackle that plays tight in that's jumping over people, still farm people. Pat, we didn't get Pat $12 million a year for no reason. And they wasn't even trying to use Pat. They weren't even trying to be here. John Lewis. They had John, you know what I'm saying? But he was still in the hostor, chilling, not making no noise.

But every time he got in, he made plays on third down. So when I'm looking at the name, when you name the people, yes. Though we have, there's no reason why when these people go out there and play to their ability that I'm like when you line them up against other lineups, I like them. I like them a lot. They could be up there for sure. They perform at their, at their abilities. They up there. Listen, I'm just saying. That's what we got over here, Burrow. That's what we got over here. I understand you got an affinity to, you know,

maybe a couple receivers over there, but, you know. Look, we'll take them. It's a possibility we can get one. We ain't go lie. And say what we can get two of them. Bring the homes. We can get one. Bring, I don't, bring any, either one. Bring to my chase, hopefully.

That'd be crazy. You'd be dreaming of this. No, I'm just saying. Whoever. All right. Covenant life back to where. She said, seeing other football players test themselves on special forces, would either of you ever consider doing that?

In what part do you think would be tougher? the physical grind or the mental challenge. Mansell did okay out there. They got some type of Special Forces thing where you go through like the Special Forces training or something? Yeah, have you seen it? I did not see it. Oh, man, you got to watch.

They got a couple of seasons. And it's cool. It's actually a really good show. My boy Randall was on the joint. That's my wife. Okay. So is married to that. Would you do it?

Would I do it, Debo? No. I think back in the day, I could have did it. But right now, right now, it's more of the mental for me. Like, I think I could do the physical stuff, but it's like, I don't want to go through that stuff right now. I mean, I think I could do it, but I'm like, I like chilling. I like peace.

It's just a lot of, a lot of hard work. I think I could have done it back in the day. I don't think, I just don't, I don't want to do that. I just don't see wanting to put myself through that right now. Like, I feel like, like, training camps and going through all of those two days and Matt drills. I'm like this. I know I had it in me. But right now, I'm really liking just chilling.

You know what I'm saying? I like watching it, seeing my boys go and see who could do it because that's good work. Hey, hey, hey, hey. We got to come back to Shay. He came back. He came back. Shea is a dude. He said, I'm a dude, y'all.

Oh, my bad. Two hours. Appreciate you, bad. My bad, Shay? That's me. I'm bad. I'm bad. All right, covenant, I'm going to tell you right now, look here, I am not doing that. I do not have the desire to do it. I'm too old. It's a lot of things that I probably would have

did, you know, when I was younger. This definitely, you know, could have been one of those things, you know, to try and, you know, prove something. Actually, this is as recent as, As last year, they wanted me to pull a damn aircraft, one of those big, a plane. Dude, but the, but the, I'm talking about the, like the refueler. Like one of those big ass refuelers. I'm like, what? Hell me. I ain't.

See? Pull up. No. You, bruh. They try to give me to break a world record. I'm like, no, I'm going to break everything in my body. I got a world record. Have you ever tried?

100 yard interception return. Yes. The house in the Super Bowl. The Debo, you wouldn't try to fill up. The player of the year, war. You should do that, bro. The only young player to ever have one, and ain't been one since. I'm good.

Yeah. Maybe younger, Debo. Hey, I ain't go lie. That other dude. That did. Yeah, him? Yeah, him? Oh, he would have shown him off the brown and the white.

Oh, yeah, you would have pulled that. You would have pulled a couple planes. Hey, hey, I ain't going to lie to you, though. I called my train. I said, hey, you think I could pull a whatever it was. You know, he was like, well, is it, you know, is it whatever, whatever. I'm like, it's going to be a real record if I pull it done. He's like, ah.

He was like, dude, there's something like 300 and something, something, thousand pounds, dude, like 200. It's crazy weight, bro. Yeah. Like, getting it started, he was like, it's going to be the problem. But if you get a starter, it'd be all. I'm like, man, I'm going to pop everything on me getting it started. Yeah, okay, okay.

See, I look, I think, I believe me, Debo. Hey, listen. I think you could do it. I didn't listen. I didn't believe in the work I was going to have to do to try and to pull it. Would you have to, you had to gain some weight, too, huh? Bro, you got to gain weight muscle. I'd have, man, I wouldn't have a shot right now at 255.

I had to go back to 308 and hope my body a hold, man, bro, it's snapping. I feel it right now just on the, just the thought of pressing, bro. I ain't never did an Achilles or, man, I feel that. See, if you're thinking about it, good thing. Don't do it. Don't do it. That's why I do. Listen, that's the last thing I need.

I don't do nothing competitive where I have to adjust to somebody else's movements. I know what's going on when I'm lifting this weight. I know where it's going to be. I know where I'm supposed to put it. I know what's going on when I'm walking on this treadmill. I know what's going on when I incline. I know all that. I am not adjusting to somebody else's adjustments because my body don't,

it don't operate that way no more. Don't force you like that. Me too. Don't push it like that, Joe. Me too. I'm more of a cardio. Cardio dumbbells. Bands.

Do you want you stretching that hip? Yep. Oh, you already know. Soon I leave out here, I'm stretching that help. Okay. Okay. Coming to life back again. She said $20. She said, how you doing, Joe? Is the season over for your sons? Joe, have you ever just been out? See a stranger? I don't know what that is. And say how can I bless you today? Have you ever been, have you, Joe, have you ever just been out, see a stranger, okay, and see. How can I bless you today, James?

Ask me. Glad you asked. Glad you asked you asked. Highsmith will be with a school. L.O. Hysmith will be at the Stillers, hers place. Hers. Please come. What's?

Oh, the Steelers, the girl. The killer. her is the girl the event High Smith is going to be there. Please come, Devo. And me, have I ever said, have blessed, how can I bless your day?

I don't think I ever just walk into a stranger and said, how can I bless your day? But I know for sure I've been tried to bless a lot of people's days by I go pay for a lot of people's tabs. You know, we're at dinner, lunch, we're at the bars. Normally I just

pay for people's stuff and then not try to say nothing and just walk off on it. I do that all the time. I don't want them to know. I'll just be like this clear their tab, please, and then, do you what I'm saying? Because I don't even want the interaction and be like, hey, you know what I'm saying? Especially if like they look at you, but they don't come over and talk to you. I'm like, all right, hey, hit their tab. Yeah. Pay they tab too. I try to do that all the time. I'm like, you didn't bother me. I'm going to pay your tab. I'm just trying to eat. You know what I'm saying? Any kids at the concession stand, when I'm at the concession stands at my son's game,

everybody's eating for all these little kids. Give what you want to recommend. Well, you got it like that, Joe. I can't do all that. I'm just saying I like to really. And I got to make sure, you know, I'm at a, I'm at, you know, like I can't be doing that at, you know, restaurants you go to. I got to make sure when I'm do that, I'm sitting down at like, you know,

like chilies or appabees or something, you know. Yeah. Local diner, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. I know the bill ain't going to be no more than $34. You know what I'm saying. But you are. You are.

Otherwise, I'm going to have a hot face. I'm going to be like what they did, how much with you? Hey. Tell them I got half of it. You know what I know about a lot of rich people too? Just because you have a lot of money don't mean you spend a lot of money. And that's what it is in your case. What are you talking about, Joe?

I ain't got no money, you got it. But you don't spend it. Unless you want to on the things that you want to spend it on. So I don't know what I said I put you out there. And I got it. I keep talking. You keep on talking about speaking. Because I got, I got two.

I got two chains. I got two chains. I got this chain and I got another chain. And I ain't going to lose my chains. I love my chains. I ain't got no chain. Yep. It was okay.

It was the thing I got is this oil ring. Why do you lie? It's all good, Joe. I'm not going to call you out, bro. It's all good, Devo. You're my good. Man, listen, food don't count. Okay.

Food don't come. You right. All right. You right. That's the main thing. I got to eat. I got to drink. Yeah, you do.

You got a drink. Got a drink. Got a drink. You don't got to drink. Water. I'm a diet dehydration. Water. All the time?

It's sometimes good to have a little bit of red wine. Yep. Mm-hmm. So your blood flow. Yep. A couple thousand dollar bottles. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to live, Joe.

I don't know if this is true. This is the only reason I did it because I heard like the better the wine, the probably the more expensive it is and then the better you feel. Yeah, a glass a day, probably, maybe with dinner. I mean, I ain't going to lie. Sometimes, I mean, off-season sometimes I might have made a bottle a day. Yeah, you know, you can because you got a lot of weight. I had a lot of weight.

I got a lot of fluid. I got a, I got a hydrate. Got a hydrate. I got hydrated. Are you drinking water also? Yes. That wine is definitely not hydrating. Listen, this is what I do.

This is what I do. A glass of wine, a liter of water. Glass of wine, a liter of water. Oh, okay, yes. You good. That's what I do, Joe. Oh, yeah, you good. I know you got to be somewhere tonight.

Yeah, man. Game four, eight o'clock in Cleveland, right? Are you going to be there? Because I'm actually probably going to just come because I got some people there that got seats anyway and this court side too. So they got season tickets. What time you get in there, Joe?

I hope I don't see you there. But in the case that I do- Wow, that's crazy. Because you're not going to see you there. You know why? The only reason why I say that because you're not going to, you tell me how you really feel.

I'm going to be sitting there watching you hope that we lose the whole time. and that's not fun. I want to be sitting there with somebody like, my man's like, come on, Cass, genuinely, you're looking at me like this. I see you, you're going to be laughing. And I'm going to be like this.

It's really not funny. It's crazy how you got all this love for these strangers, but for your own, your own home boy, you know what I'm saying? Supposed to be my brother. I got love for you. You don't even have a dog in the fight and you're still laughing at me.

You're supposed to be my dog. You ain't got no dog in the fight. I got a dog in the fight. And you're going to get anybody that's not my dog. Where you're going to be sitting at? The chat won't know where you're going to be sitting at, man. They want to watch you on TV. You know where I'm at, court side Jody, man.

Court side. Where at? Where's side? Court side, Joe, you're going to catch me the calf side. Calf side right next to him? Calf side, right next to him. Okay. Behind them or in front of him or on the side of him?

I'm going to either be on the side of him where the bench is, like under the hoop, or I'm going to be to the side of him where coach is where he walking across. I might stab him in like who who's subbing in. So I'm being one of the two. Okay. Okay. So you're going to be letting, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, y'all going to see me.

Watch. Okay. Okay. Listen, this is all I want to know. What's up, buddy? When they get down by 20 in the fourth quarter, are you staying through the whole game? Yep. If they, it's going to be, I got to send them off now.

If we're down by 20, I just can't roll out early. No, man. They fought the good fight. I'm not going, I'm not going to send my dogs off. Like, y'all are just trash. Y'all got swept. It is what it is. But you know what?

Guess what? I still got my jersey. There are all these other teams, all 28 other teams, Boston fans, they've been in Cancun. Joe, Joe. You know what I'm saying? No, D'Bow. Stop with the moral victory. There's only one, it's only one winner.

It's only one winner every year. Everybody else is a loser. Everybody else is a loser. All right? But they fought the good fight. They fought the good fight. We're still fighting. We're still fighting. We ain't going out.

We still fighting. I'm going to see them tonight. Right. Yeah, they fought the good. You had it right. They fought the good fight. It's over with. They're about to go in here and get and get walked all over.

Ain't nobody even talking. Walked all over. Look here. Look here. Ladies and gentlemen, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Gibo and Joe. So please make sure you like, subscribe. and download where you get the show. Joe!

Yes. Make sure you all live, subscribe, and see y'all tomorrow as my calves. Just try to not get the... We try to not get... All tomorrow as we go. Clean up tonight. Do it for the land.

If you don't do it for anybody, Cleveland, do it for the land. Do it for the ones that love you. Do it for Jody. Do it for the city. Do it for West Six. Do it for your pride. All that.

Do it for downtown. Do it for Eucle. Make sure. You all clean it up, feel good. Do it for the city. Come on, Cleveland. Just don't get us out. Come on, man.

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