Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Logan Paul Backs Out, Trent McDuffie GETS PAID, Claressa vs. Rolly

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Logan Paul is backing out of his fight with Le'Veon Bell, Trent McDuffie signing a massive deal with the Los Angeles Rams, and Claressa Shields saying she can beat Rolly Romero. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE 00:00 - Travis Kelce Future with Chiefs04:56 - Trent McDuffie signs deal with Rams11:44 - Claressa Shields calls out Rolly Romero18:00 - Logan Paul backs out of Le'Veon Bell fight23:30 - Play or Fade Presented by PrizePicks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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possibly going to be going to test the market. I guess originally it was said that, you know, he was going to be back and that was just basically a given that, you know, he would be there. I think the athletic reported, they expected him to return to Kansas City. And then

the AP had said, if he plays, the only place he's playing is Kansas City and that he won't test the market. Bull spit. Bull spit. He is going to test the market and he should test the market. Hell yeah, test the market.

You know why? Because they think they're about to get this player-friendly deal. And that is not about to happen. Okay? He's going to make sure Kansas City gives him his worth. It's a business. And he ain't doing no player deal. On top of that, you ain't going to have Patrick McHones for most of the years,

not all of the year. Damn right, he's going to test the market. And along with them testing the market, you know who come with me when I go? Taylor Swift. The Swifties. Taylor Swifties go with me and the Swifties go with me. Hey, boom, here they go.

Tickets Price just went hide and giraffe. You know what I mean? I know what I'm saying? They didn't went hiding the giraffe pussy. You know what I'm saying? Boy, it's out of that. It's out of that. Look.

What's you think, Daveo, I don't know, though, about this one. I don't know. I think he might chill. I think he might chill. I think he's going to stay in Kansas City. and the reason why is for two reasons. He may, he might test the market just to see what the value is, and I think Kansas City may match it if he does that,

and or Travis, he got Patrick Mahomes there. That's his man's, bro. That's his good man. He's not going to be back until late in the season. Late in this season. Now, if they don't get close to matching that, do you think that he could possibly go somewhere else? else. Say they talking, they're talking 10, somebody else talking 15, 16. I mean, with,

I don't, I can see Trave chilling. I could see Trave being in a comfortable position where I don't know, like, depending on who's giving them the 15 or 16. I'm not seeing him go to a bad team for more money right now at the end of his career. The money with Trave, he's got a lot of stuff going on and the dude is up for sure. So with me now, I'm thinking, does he want to, he wants to, I feel like he wants to win. He's not going to want to go out as a loser. He doesn't feel like I don't think that four mill is going to move the needle for him in too many ways. So I'm thinking he's going to try to be for sure on a contender or what? You know what I forgot? You're right. He got that. He got the whole steakhouses in Kansas City. My man got like he got real live things going on. Money's cool.

So Seattle say we want you at 15 in Kansas City say 10. See, oh, see, that's what I'm saying. I don't write Right there. Right there. I love when you studied, Joe, because it's something you don't want to say. It's something that's different where am I talking about me or am I talking about Trave? Am I talking about, you know what I'm saying? Like, what I think maybe he would do is probably still, I don't know. He probably still stayed.

I don't know. I still say. That's what I would say. I would think so. I would think so. I don't, I think with the situation now. How many more years? I don't know how many more years Travis is thinking about playing.

What if it's L.A.? What if it's L.A? What if it's the rams? What if it's the rams? That's interesting. That's interesting because he likes the goal. They family, him, they got cribs out there in L.A.

So if you say something like that, that makes sense, then, you know, that's not a bad move. And Lala, I ain't never mad at L.A. Treve, Trita, they've been in L.A. That goes. That goes together. So we will see. The choke through that fear.

I don't, I, if I, if I, if I, if I, If you would ask me right now, I think he's going to play with Kansas City for sure. I don't think he's going to where. Yeah, I don't think he leaves Casey, no matter. I mean, I really don't. I ain't go lie to you. I just don't see it happen no matter what the number is, to be honest with you. I think you just got too much there.

Unless, like you said, you go to L.A. route, that's a lot more, you know. A lot more endorsement opportunities over there. No, for sure. You know what I'm saying? He got, the man. The man, he got options. I wouldn't mind. The thing you said, too, the friendly deals,

if the bag is bigger somewhere else for sure, but it is a contender, definitely. But you wouldn't, I'm just not seeing the trap going somewhere, winning two games because he can make a couple more, a couple more dollars. Oh, hell not. You know what I'm saying, being a jacked up situation. Yeah.

Yeah. Speaking of LA, man, we stay out there with the Rams. The Rams think, hey, that man, Trent Duffy. Four years, a hundred and twenty-old. $24 million, including $100 million guarantee made in the highest paid corner in NFL history. Yes, that. By $9, $900,000.

He made $31,000 at $30.1. You got Derek Stingley, he's at 30, then you got Horn 25, and it goes down from there, Ramsey, 24. Patrick Certan, 24. Joe Yes, sir Where does put nephew Nephew

Nephew Little Piz Joe reporter Joey where this put nephew Where does put nephew at Joe? Yes, sir

The thing is The thing is He's going between The minimum It's going to be between 24 at the minimum And then No, not

27 is going to be minimum 27. 27 go be minimum. And we only taking 27 if it's fully guaranteed. This is the only reason I'm trying to tell you this. This is a free agent, an unrestricted free agent. So he's going to go and get the highest, highest, highest bag possible. So when, that's why when I were going through the same thing, Revis was getting 16 a year as a free agent. And that's when me, Richard Sherman, and Patrick Peterson were going through all. negotiations. Pat P., I mean, Richard Sherman got 14, me and Pat B got 13, 5. And the highest

was 16 at Dorel Rivas because he was just floating around free agent. Long-term deals were just a little bit less than that free agent going to go break the market. So when we say that, like a few thousand percent is going to be between. I say, like you said, over, Patrick Satin got 24 a year. You know what I'm saying? J.C. Horn, 25, Stingley at 30 in his new joint. Okay. Okay. You're making sense. I'm looking at it like you say. So 27, 27, 27 to 30. 27 to 30. That's a good mark. 27 to 30. 27. And we're going, we're looking for a four-year deal? We're looking for a four-year deal. Okay. We might even make a point of three-free but it's fully guaranteed. Fully guaranteed at 26, fully every penny. Every penny.

Four for 108. Listen, he got you Mark Chase. Tia twice a year, man, what y'all talking about? No, trust me. I'm with him getting the bag. I'm with Pizzi. He's because he's done what he had to do. He went out that joint, balled out, I was getting better every year,

and he deserves it, for sure. So we're just talking about now in guarantees. What are they looking like? What are guaranteed numbers? I'm rocking. You're trying to go, you're trying to get how much of the contract guaranteed. You're trying to get the full thing. if you're talking anything around 26 to 27 I need full I need to full back so if you're talking

all four okay I hear you I need all four guaranteed man what you're talking about so if you did so that the 25 that'd be four years 100 million fully guaranteed if it was 26 it'd be four years 104 fully guaranteed what's wrong with that I'm just I'm just I'm just telling I'm just trying to... That's just a lot of guaranteed. And I haven't seen... He just got a $100 million guaranteed out of $124.108 out of $125? He got $100 million guaranteed out of $124, a four-year-124.

So a week ago, so you're saying four years. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. I'm just four... So the thing is with the guaranteed money is going to be... It's going to cut it off because it's going to be a three-year deal with the guarantees. So if a little Peezy sign a three-year, 78 fully guaranteed, do you know what I'm saying?

Like that would be through a 26 million a year, three years fully guaranteed the whole deal. Do you know what I'm saying? That fourth year. We need four years. Basically the fourth year is just that extra. That's just the year that you put on there that it's good for them. That's the case. The number, it ain't fully guaranteed no more.

I know. We're talking three year, 100 million. That's basically, but that's basically what T.J. basically signed, T.J. basically signed a three for 108 fully guaranteed. Do you know what I'm saying? That last four for 124, that extra at the end, that doesn't really matter. You're going to renegotiate or something's going to happen at that last year. If T.J. would just sign a three-year 108 fully guaranteed, then that's where I'm looking at Pizze,

young Pizzie doing the same thing at as a three-year, you know what I'm saying, $78, $80 million, $40 fully guaranteed, instead of putting it four for adding that extra year to make it 106, and then they can do whatever they won at that last year. That's what I'm saying. Fully, fully, fully. That's what I'm saying. You might as well just do it. The shorter deal is what it's going to be then.

If they're going to go fully, it's going to be a three year for, three year for 70 something. When you're doing no less than four, y'all already, you already had my, had my guy dropped down to the second round. Nah, uh-uh. I feel you. 30. It's because he's trying to get 30, 60, 91, 3. 20. He wants a foe for 120.

No question. For sure. No question. This man at 31. You got two more right there sitting at 30. I mean, I'm not mad at it. The 30, the 30, that's not, that's, that's just, that's, that's, that simple math. That simple math, but one twanky. The twinkie. Like, pay nephew, man.

Get, get, nephew his money, man. Give him his money, man. What y'all don't want to do, I'm trying to tell y'all, what y'all don't want to do is let this man get into this season and then play this season out. And I'm telling you right now, you ain't going to be able to keep me. It'll be about 33. You're right, because it ain't doing nothing but going up. Ain't doing nothing but going up.

So I would say, for sure, at Pizzi, my man, get that little 4-120, 12, four years 120. He can do the same thing. Thank you. Thank you, brother. No, that's what we're saying, okay, no, for sure. Let's get it. Look here, man.

I don't know how this works, but it don't never happen. But Clarissa Shields believes she can beat Rowley in a fight. She was on Justin LaBoy, and she said this, man. Is there a male champion regardless of weight that you believe you can be. I'll be Roley. He's a world champion. Roli Ramirez. Listen, it's not about, I think Roley is very unorthodox.

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I walk around at 185. He fights at 140. Or is it 47? It's one 40, 147. But I'm just saying, though, like when you, and then like with his skill set. Yeah. Yo. What do you think?

Oh, first, first I want to hear from you. First, I want to hear from you. Okay, I understand she's going around at 185. I understand that. Yeah, she is. He fights at 147. Okay. Who says he's not walking around 20 pounds heavier either?

That's what I'm saying. And, like, just, right, that's what I'm saying. Like, just, I just don't see it happening, even with the weight difference. You know, she says she's taller. But I believe the reach is almost the same, though. Like, they got the same reach, I think. I want to say 68, 68 is the reach. And just men.

general, like, you generate more power. They're saying it's anywhere from like 30 to 40% more power based on a pound per pound being the same as far as, you know, a man of this weight and a woman of this weight. It's a higher, you know, muscle mass like density. Like, like, it's just, it's different, dude. Like, it's just evolutionary, genetic, biological stuff that is there that you just can't get away from as a male and the female, dude, like thicker skulls, like, thicker draw structure.

Like, it's, like, it's totally different. I don't think, I don't think she's taking into account all that. She's just looking at her skill and, and I understand you believe in your skill and all that, but, like, dude, a dude hitting you, that's, I don't know. I definitely don't give her a chance of winning, and if it is, it is. very minute. I would say, I do not want to see this fight at all. I think the one thing is, Clarissa Shields is one of the baddest women I've ever seen in my life. When I seen her fights, she has hands. She's fighting big women. She's really throwing them. When I first looked, I thought

she was like 200. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't know. She's like, I'll walk around 185, her fighting that 160 something, 170. But like, end of the day, I just like, men's strength of, it's just different. And her being a professional boxer, that's sweet, but I'm just looking at like, Roley in the day, he's still walking around at 185, you want 170, you know what I'm saying? That's just, I don't like to see that competition when we're talking about physical men versus women. It was always taught.

You don't touch a girl. You don't do that just because I was always like raised, you're going to, you bigger stronger, you know what I'm saying? So like, you always are true women with respect, all of that. So I'm just really, I just think he's men and women. women in physical combat is something that I'm like, I just don't think that it's a good way to go. She's the only person, too. She's a woman.

She's a professional. She's a heavyweight boxer. But it's still like, it's just still for me, I just don't see women and men doing those hand-to-hand combat joints like that. And he's a professional boxer also. She's not like, it's just a dude walking off the street that, you know what I'm saying, is 170 pounds. She's going to probably put him to sleep for sure. Roley is a professional boxer that's taking beatings, taking pounded, from other professional boxes too.

So I just don't, I don't know. If anybody could do it, it would be her. I just do one. I don't know if I want to see it. So you think she could do it? No, I don't think she could do it. I don't think she could. And yeah, I think if anybody in the world could, she could, but I don't think that she could.

Because he's another, he's a professional. I think he's a, he's just a male professional too. So I don't know. He don't put, he don't put, what, 13, 14 people to sleep. Brother. Yes. He's not no amateur. He's not doing this for fun either.

Both of y'all's hands are registered. Both of y'all not playing. I just, yeah. It's just too much. Yeah. I would, yeah, I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Biologically, like, this is too different that I think she could against him.

Now, yeah, like you said, a cat off the street beat the brakes off his ass. You know what I'm saying? Like, easy. Gracefully. Easy work. But you're talking, you know, you're talking about a skill, a skill for. fighter understands she, you know, her skills may be better. They actually may be

better, but it ain't like he's not go hit you. Yeah. Like, you got hit a lot in that fight that you just fought. She won't smoke, though. That fight that she just fought with that, they were throwing hands. Yeah. Right. Now, think about standing there throwing hands like that with him.

Catching them with him. All those. Because she was taking them. She was taking them from old girl, too. Like, that's what I'm like, oh my God, this joan looks crazy. I don't know. Like, no. I can't. No, man, it's this, this. And you know how that's, next thing you know, she's talking, look, she started to bleeding in there

and the leaking, it's going to be looking crazy. He's boxing her up, like, hitting him like this. Oh, my, somebody, like, you know, it's just optics for me, too. Stop hitting her. You know what I'm saying? Like, she's, wow, she's taking them, she's eating them jumps. Dude, it ain't. I don't think she's going to eat too many of those.

I don't want to. Have you ever seen this dude? we hit these people, man. He ain't, nah, he ain't taking too many of those, man. There we go. And your boy over there, Logan Paul, yeah, he said he can't fight. He said he can't fight after WWE allegedly prevented him from doing it. What do you think, Joe?

Do you think they're actually preventing him from doing it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think he wanted to fight Leveon because he said it in his first post. When somebody said something, you take him what he said. And you can fight and you're not playing the league. And I don't want to fight with you. So I think.

Thank you. Joe, you got that, you got that whack-based internet. It's freezing up out on you again. Yeah. That's, yeah. Oh, you got this big house. You got stuff everywhere. The internet trash.

Trash, Joe. Trash, look here, man. This is what I think happened. I know, like you said, he ain't want that. He ain't want that with El Bell, man. He's seen them hands. He's seen my dude's hands, man. He was like, I want something untrained.

I ain't never did this before. He can, he a fighter. He can fight. I can't have that. I can't do that. And then you know what he did? He went on ahead and he said, Let me call WWE so they can get me out of this because I'm scared that this man go put them dick beaters on me.

You know what I'm saying? He said, I can't have that. He said, so boss, I'm going to call you, y'all video it. So it's on record that I could put it out there that I can't fight because I'm too, valuable to the WWE. Yes, because they know he go beat the brakes

off your ass. And that is why I believe he went and did that. Like how many people actually have a car ready and set up ready to go, just filming you so you can get this

reason excuse out in the air he probably just made look I'm gonna go devil's advocate because I don't think he I don't know if he was scared but to prove why he couldn't be on it is maybe why he did the call I'd like libyan I like leviom I like leviom but I'm just gonna say it could be legit because he is uh the WWE he does had a contract it could be like look they looked at probably said oh no I don't want you because they were scared they said I don't want you fighting him that's a man WWE could be scared. They were like,

that's a man, uh-uh. No. He, he got whoop on you. Uh-huh. He's going to whoop on you. We can't have you over there. Now you can't wrestle.

He looked focused. He didn't hit you so hard. He didn't, he didn't your jaw like, uh, uh, Joshua did your brother. That's crazy.

His brother went in that. His brother ain't scared of nothing. I tell you that. Right. I'm not letting, I'm not letting, I'm not letting rubber box to hit me, brother. No

I'm not Hey I got I got a question for you Yes Mike Tyson In his prime 100 million

You're taking the Upercut from me That's the The part is You just saying I'm walking in that During like chin out A

Uppercut You Here And there's Wow He's He's going It's going to

It's going It's going Shatter My whole break my jaw. I ain't taking no punch. I'm not doing it. That's what I'm saying.

Everybody, if you're doing it, you're having to worry about your holes, you're going to be wired shut, mouth wire shut, so you're going to just take that knot to talk. I get 100 million to talk ever again. Think about moral combat. Hey, when he pull your head off like that,

bro, that upper cut lie with a, and you victim weight, that uppercut lie to pull your hold to, pop that hole, you know what I'm saying, neck ain't strong. You even got no muscle in the neck. I don't know, man.

Man, you heard the tackle talk about when I come around the corner. I be hitting shit, Debo. I'm not just walking around. I don't just look like this. I will knock some shit loose. You're talking about. Out here playing with me. Like I don't, like I really put my whole body into it.

That's what I'm saying. Your chin and neck taking all that, Joe. That ain't going to be good for you, Joe. I'm not letting Mike Tyson uppercut me. Are you letting him? uppercut you. Hell no. My son said, hey, I'm going to

go eat it. I said, no, you're not. You're going to die trying. Your son going to be eating. I said you're going to die trying to take an overcome from Mike Tyson. Are you crazy? Yeah, we're eating through a straw.

Like, oh, no. It's no way, dude. I'm not taking that, Joe. You're straight soup. Do you want to have soup for the rest of your life, son? Done. Yogurt? Done.

Done, so. Joe, man. Joe, what's up, Coach? You know where time it is, man. Yes, sir. It's time for play a fade presented by prize. All right, Joe. Yeah, yeah.

You're all right, man. You're not cooked up this lineup right here, baby. Yes. So what we go do? I've decided. I'm going to choose to play a fade this thing right here. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Oh, you. Okay. All right. Now, you go on here. You run with it, baby. So that's why, first and foremost, CLE. you know I rock with the land. Always. Donovan Mitchell is always in his duffle. Always in his duffle. And they're going against Philly? Okay. So I like Donovan over 26. James Hardin, new addition,

welcome back to the crib and he's been hooping ever since he's been with the calves. I like him over 20 and a half points. Those two cooking, cooking, cooking, Ubre. I'm a fan of Ubre, but I'm liking my people. We're going to strap him up a little bit. He's going to be under 17 and a half. 16. If you might get. 15 points. It's going to be a good, good day, but not good enough. I'm in my basketball bag, though, guys. I'm just letting y'all know this is going to hit. Then we got Shea Gildrous Alexander. 24 and a half. She wakes up with 25. She wakes up out of bed with 25. That's nothing but done. And then Jalen Brunson against L.A., against the clip, he is, he shoots at least 25 shots a game. So there's no chance that he's not going to hit 25. He is a little. He is a

bucket for them. He's their main go-to score. He's going to drop 25. This room right here is an obvious, obvious, obvious play. If you want to make the 20 for the 260, because, yeah. What you think, Debo?

This is what I'm going to do for you, Joe. What you going to do? I'm going to put the thing with you. I go against my boy, because you're smart. Look here, bro. Look here. Make sure y'all download the app today. and use the code. Debo Joe

they get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 line up. That code now. Debo Joe, they get $50 in line up. Yes, sir. After your first $5.00 line. I had to get in my basketball duffel bag. Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Look, we're going to start off

with the super chats that we missed from yesterday's. Sorry, from Friday. Was it Friday? Yes. From the super chats that we missed from, hold up. Hey. What's up? Hey. El Bell tomorrow.

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Love it. Let's go. We'll go get to the super chats that we miss from yesterday. Covenant Life is right here. Five hours. She says, I hate to say this. I believe the Browns will get the weapons needed and be contenders for 2026. Now, let me go throw up.

Why would they? They ain't go get nothing that they need. They ain't even got an offensive line. We already started signing an office alignment. Don't even trip. Cover the life is hip. She's smart. She's no.

Great call, Covenant. We let this. No. Look, just chill. No. Just chill. It's going to start happening. You won't see.

You got Covenant Life again, $20. She said, Debo and Joe, if there were a reunion game to play, not flat, which you suit up, and what team would you like to go up against? I would love to see Troy and you on the same field against the rat, the ratbirds, the Ravens. She called the rat riddins. It's the rat birds. What a game. Joe, I'm going to tell her the truth.

Cah, I am not putting on a uniform or a suit unless I got a good 12 to 15 months of training, head start. I need all my people. Not flag. She said a real game, not flag. Oh, hell no. Covered it? You're trying to. Trying to get people hurt out there.

Listen, man, I'm going to tear something up off the bomb. You know what I mean? Hamstrings and everything will be blown out there. Dude just can't just come off the couch thinking it's sweet. Get up to full speed. When is the last time a regular person just get up to full speed? You know what I'm saying? You don't do that.

You'll pull something. So I ain't over a lie to you, brother. I can't even remember the last time. I competitively. full out had to try and sprint to beat somebody. It's like, I do, I do that, you know, do the 75, the stride, you know? Nah, I ain't doing that digging.

I just raised my kids and now, they still not that, they still not old enough yet. So they still seven and nine. So I can still get, I don't even got to really get up to, get up to the speed yet. Right. So I'm racing them from the bus and then I don't know. Probably when my boy, he's nine,

I say when he gets about 15, 16, then I get about 40, then I might be when we start getting a little closer. I'm going to tell you right now, I ain't racing my kids no more. Even though. Yeah, they get you out the way right now. I don't know. You'll blow a hamster. I'm a blow a hamster.

Hey, you would. I'm a tire going to fall off. The tire is going to fall off. I'm a boy of tire. Do you think you could beat them? No. You can't. And if you think, if you're thinking that hard, you're going to blow it.

You're going to blow it. I'm willing, I'm willing, I'm willing, I'm willing to go down. I'm willing to go down long as you give me the time to train Joe. Give me the, I got, I got to get all my people back in line, Joe. I'm going to have to spend about $250,000, $350,000 just, just a race one time. Oh man, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. I got a win, Joe. I got a win, Joe. I can't live. You're by the coming at bionic legs and all. 350. 350's crazy. Oh, man. I'm telling you, I'm going to have to do something. up, man. Coming to life is $50.

She said, Debo, please explain your matchups with Joe Thomas. My husband tried to offer me a necklace for your jersey. I told him I would purchase one. He's pouting like a baby. Even my teddy bear named Troy that has a 43

onesie is tripping. Thank you. The matchups with Joe, Joe Thomas. Joe was a very, he was very technical. He had good feet and he was able to withstand a bull rush.

So that was the big thing with Joe is he had good feet and he was able to withstand a bull rush. So that's why it was, you know, it was difficult to get sacks on him when, you know, he was when he was actually, you know, in his prime and doing the things that he did. I think only, man, maybe, what time, what did he come in?

2006, 2006, 2006, six or seven? Yeah. Seven. Yeah, six or seven. Six or seven. Yeah. So, yeah, that's what made him difficult. But other than the past game, that was it.

Like, run game, I ain't really worried about nobody on the run blocking. Like, that's what I do. Like, ain't no running this way. Ain't no coming around here, all that other stuff. Like, y'all take that over here. Y'all used to say, hey, man, y'all take that shit over there to Willie, man. Y'all go ahead and run over there. Ain't nothing happening over here.

I love it. I love it. I love that you gave my mad Joe. T's their respect the bull rush. Oh, no question. Dude, I would literally, I would literally, I would bull rush this dude for like a whole half or three quarters, bro. And just bull rush, bull rush, bull rush.

And hoping that he goes set heavy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, so what I would do is I had, I had a bull rush, and I had a bull rush that looked, it looked like I was going bull rush, but I wouldn't bull, and I would slap, grab him. your arm and hook around. Yeah. It was the same move on the same step.

So if a guy after that first bull rush, the next time he would set heavy and hard, I'd be like, okay, I got him. Joe wouldn't set heavy and hard that often. So that's why it was hard. Yeah. Because he was able to whip. Right, he was able to whip, right,

without having to set heavy and hard. Come on. So when you get a guy like that, like I'm just, Like, I mean, you have, I think, one time where he's talking about it and a thing, and he's like, he's just, you know, he's just head buttoned me, head button, head, and he's like, that's what I'm doing. I'm just being set so that you, at some point, you're going to get tired of me hitting you in your head. Boom, boom, boom, and you're going to be like, oh, let me stop. As soon as they do that, I'm, uh. That's that, you sound like that, Marshaun, they keep hitting them in the face over and over, over again.

I'm like, you try, that's a will thing, bro. You keep hitting the man in his face. repeatedly, he's going to eventually start folding and start doing different things. And that's when you were setting them up the whole time. But, yep, that's wild. Oh, yeah, for sure, man. Like, that's just, that's just what it is, brother. We got another one.

We got American Assassin, $0.001, $10. He said, what do you guys think about going out and signing Tyler Board? He is a Pittsburgh native and played college for the Pitt Panthers. Where do you think of that? What, what years is for Tyler? School, man, that's a good. Let me check. How long have he been in?

T-31. I'm not mad at it. I like Tyler. I like him, but I just, I'm trying to get us younger. Like, we're. I'm with you. Yeah. We're at that point where I think we need.

Solid play for show, but not for, you know, for us. Yeah. For sure. Coving the life back, $10. She said I just broke out in highs here and Joe. Talk about the Browns. Just when I think it's all well, shake my head. Debo is held.

Debo is hell today. I'm weak. She said, the internet don't even want to hear about the pound puppies. Puppy pound, sorry. A puppy pound. I'm going to let cover that cover. I'm going to let you slide. They do.

You look. It's all good. My internet went out. It zapped out for a second. I mean, it's just like, it sure did. It's kind of like teams to pay for it. They just zap out. Like, things seem to be going like, well, and all of a sudden, they just zap out.

Covered a life, no. She said earlier exactly what she felt, oh, it makes me sick to my stomach. The Browns are going to be so good this year. And now she won't come back and say that. So you already, I'm believing the first one covered it. And you just, you just, you just, you should. Oh, well, I'm going to come back with another. Covenant came back with $10.

She said, Joe's necklace is blocking his connection. Debo, where your dogs. We need to, she said, we need, we need look and see. Joe Peter really had a problem with you. Are you a dog person? Be careful with your response. Who is Joe Peter? Oh, you, Joe.

I'm a dog person. You a dog person. Oh, yeah. I had dogs when I was kid. You're not a dog person, I'm not, I'm not the craziest dog person. I'm not, I don't not like dogs. If people have dogs, I'm all for it.

You scared of dogs, though. Right now, I'm not, yes, I got chased by dogs. I got bit by a dog. So I definitely have, I got chased by dogs. I got bit by a dog. That don't make me dislike all dogs. Why do you keep saying, why do you keep saying that I dislike dogs?

I don't say that I dislike dogs. Well, you like, you like, you like, you know, mutts. No, I'm just saying. Like Browns, dog comments, like those dogs, D-A-W-G. I love dogs so much. I love dogs so much that I don't have enough time to give it the care that the dog deserves. I got these children that I'm trying to handle.

I'm raising my kids. The kids can take care of them. The kids ain't doing nothing. When I got the dogs, I was walking the dogs. I was feeding the dogs. And they wanted to talk about they wanted to. You got rid of the dogs. I see there you go again.

I got the dogs and I gave them to a better to. Joe, answer the question, Lord, did you get rid of the dogs? Yes, I did get rid of the dogs, but to a good family, not just anywhere, a good family. Oh, just because you didn't throw them out in the middle of the highway in a trash bag, you feel like you're justified. You feeling justified, huh? I gave them to a good family. I just wasn't responsible enough and mad enough to take care of little puppies that needed me. All right.

All I can tell you is this. I just, you can't, people just mad at me. Because if I, because if I, if you have a dog, guess what? I love you. And I love you. Hopefully I love your dog. Hopefully it's training don't come up here and try to bite me. You got a cool dog.

What's up, dog? You good? Boom. All right. I come pet your dog. Woo. If you don't want me to pet your dog, won't pet your dog. Is a dog pedible dog?

I do it. but be mad at me because I'm not just walking around feeding and taking a kid like I'm just I love a dog so much that I know he needs that tender love and care and I just got that I'm moving and shaking

I'm running around that's crazy I'm trying to do Debo and Joe dog right here right now yeah you're training dogs need trained like children I already got two kids oh oh

and I'm training and I'm loving my children the dogs so much you couldn't have them but not the kids. I got to have my kids. My kids. My kids? Uh-huh. Yes.

If I messed up to say that I love dogs, I thought you know the dogs so much you just couldn't do it. The world's so crazy that you can't love your children more than dogs? I'm just saying you said you love the dog so much. You couldn't, you know, you just, I know it. Like, Joe. They didn't come from, they didn't come from my wife. They did not come from my wife.

That is not my seed. Oh, so I got a dog. I got I got I got I got to go I got I got to I got she needs a dog oh I go I'm a gonna yeah I'm gonna send the dog over there this really just happened did the chief just get Kenneth gain well because if they did if they did that's what that's how you make moves what they give me they got Kenneth Walker brother that's what I'm saying Kenneth Walker the running back I thought you said game well it's my bad my bad she's got Kenneth Walker that's fire

that's what team you know chief's doing what they all they do it takes time now you're going to come back Travis go come back he'll come back yes

Travis go come back because he's like this oh my team wants to win they're going to get people like Gameway I mean like a Walker Walker yeah you keep saying Gamewell

I love Gamewell his game is so good yeah you're trying to you're trying to throw him away and give him away I'm not throwing him away I'm trying to put him on a great team. I was trying to put him in a great

situation. Listen, what I'm trying to do is getting back. Hope don't nobody get in the bag and we can get him back. It's selfish desires around here, Joe. You funny. You funny.

You don't even get you. Yeah, I thought to remember that. I try to stay I try to stay objective and give a thing. Hey, I'm just telling you, I can see him from both sides. You know what I said? I wanted to go get that bad. The brother want me, we want him to go get that bag. There's still a fan

want me to go ahead and make sure he stay here. And see, that's the problem with a fan and a brother. A fan only want what's good for the team. They don't care about the actual brother. No, because he's a piece of their team. They're there. All puzzle pieces. All puzzle pieces.

Exactly. All people replaced and little dollar signs. Like, hold on, salary caps. get him out of here. Hey, he's hitting the cap? Get him about it. What's that boy number? Get him out of here.

How much we say? 13, get him out of here. Get him out of here. Come on. There's some space to the cap. That's man, that more. What we need? You had dinner.

You had dinner. Get him about it. The other day. Bump that. Bump that. Capspace. Yes. Look here, brother, man.

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