Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Mendoza vs. Shedeur + NFL Combine REACTION, Sonny Styles is LEGIT

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Fernando Mendoza choosing not to throw at the NFL Scouting Combine, Sonny Styles impressive combine, Aaron Glenn dozing off at the Combine, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE00:00 - Mendoza/Shedeur Comp Comparison  04:27 - Browns Offseason Plans  09:10 - Lions DC Calls Out Terrion Arnold  13:00 - Sonny Styles Impressive Combine  22:30 - Aaron Glenn Napping at Combine  31:15 - Play or Fade Presented by PrizePicks(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We go go and see what your Browns is doing. your Browns over there, they got a CBS report. He said he has a higher grade on Shador Sanders than anyone in this draft class. Listen to this, bro. Yes. Is there a quarterback in this draft class better than Shador Sanders, in your opinion, available? There is not. There is not. And not even Mendoza.

I have a higher grade on Shador than I did on anybody in this draft class. And remember, people just, here's the funny thing about this draft class at the quarterback position. April 30th, 20, 25, everyone was saying, you know, Garrett Nuss Meyer,

Kee Club, Nick Carson Beck, Archmanning, you know, and a litany of others, and now everybody is speaking Spanish. Nobody mentioned Mendoza

until all those other dozers that just named flamed out. Thanks. What do you think, Joe? You winning, Joe? Man, I'm with him.

These people at the end of the day, brother, we soon to forget should do was going to go one or two. It was him or Cam Ward. It was pick your poison.

Like, I don't know what happens. Like, when I look at it, Shador has seen, he threw for 4,100 yards. Yeah, look at the number. You can see the numbers of Shadour versus they're both senior seasons. Both senior seasons. And that's not, that's not janky. That's real rep. He was doing that, like, in front of real competition.

So when we were looking at Shadour before he was coming out, and everybody was projecting him to go, either one or two. It was like, who you like more? Is it, is, is, like, Cam Ward's work ethic just because he's not as flashy. He's, you know what I'm saying? He goes, just, just he make, Shador may rub you the wrong way. But his gameplay, when you watch the tape, the way he throws the ball, he did not,

that's not fluke. He didn't just, like, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't diamond chain himself to 4100 yards. You know what I'm saying? He didn't, no, he swag itself to 37 touchdowns. Everything he did out there, all the balls he put on time, all of his, receivers, the way he executed the huddle. The way that he did, the way that he did, the way, my bad, yeah, that was actually crazy.

All the passes that he did were actually amazing. But like, it just, it just baffles me how some people can go so, you can get the quarterback. It's just, it's a feeling thing. It's a, oh, I like this guy. Mendoza, he's a good guy. He's an energy dude. You know he's going to be rah-rah. He's going to be right on time.

He's going to not do nothing. He's going to say all the right, not do nothing wrong. say right, all the right answers to the media, just very clean cut laced. But it's football. Chador didn't do anything in my eyes to change what happened from the last game he played with Colorado to the NFL draft. It was just Provado. It's him the way they just didn't like the way that he rose people the wrong way.

So that's neither here nor there, but I can understand 1,000% if you were to look at, take the number, take the face off and just watch the fence. You don't watch Mendoza and you watch your door, just go play. The tape, you're like, just, dang, this dude moves around the pocket. He's throwing accurate passes, and he was supposed to be projected to go number one or number two. And then how the tables can turn. So draft class-wise, yes, I can see it.

He was supposed to go number one or two. In last year's draft, he just fell because people don't like him. Now, this dude, he wasn't projected to go in the first round of Mendoza. All those other, back, all those guys they talked about didn't do well. They just didn't perform. on the field where you should be evaluated at. So now he performed better than all of them. So now, oh, yeah, you're projected.

Obviously, they'd be first round overall pick because quarterback has looked at so high. All the teams that skipped over on Shador, Shador did not change the person he was on the field. It's just that off-the-field stuff that changed it a lot. So what he said, yes, I think Shador is better than Mendoza. But I think Mendoza is going to get an opportunity. He's a great kid the same way Ward did.

He didn't look like too crazy. I think if Shadour would start the whole season, he might have looked better than we would look better than war. You know what I'm saying? He had some times. He had a couple passes where not couple. He needs to take his time in the pocket. I think he steps up like that keep falling back,

that spin that he does. Hey, get rid of that spin, but you're still a rookie. If he would have been able to start the whole season as the number two overall pick, we'd have been looking, preaching a whole different tone to him going into his second year. So Mendoza, zero hate. I hope everything works out successful.

He's going to be the number one pick, but same thing could have happened to Chador. Ward could have went one. He would have went two. It had been a whole different story just watching his season, watching him go out through this year. So, yes, I think Shadoor is better than Buddy, and I don't think no quarterback in this class is better than Shador. I can't, I can't, I ain't go lie. I can't say nothing against it, dude, you know. Like, thank you.

Yes. I mean, it is what it is, man. You feel me. It's not a strong. It's not a strong quarterback class over here, man. It's just not. That's just, that's just what it is, brother. I mean, too.

But they're saying your guy over there, Andrew Barry, I guess analyst Scott Petrick, he says that they're in line for some big moves, some trades in the off season. He says, seems there to be more healthy market for wide receivers than you're, when you're talking trades. I would certainly not rule it out. think Andrew Barry will be active. He's shown a history of being active.

What do you think? Do you think he'll be active in there? You think he'll go get it done? You think he'll go find something, get something. Because, you know, they had a crazy rumor that was talking about trade miles. They squashed that, though. You know, what would you think of this, what do you think of this possibility of him making some trades to, I guess, gang, gang, get you, get you one of those good receivers? Bro, I think Andrew Barry knows we got a lot of money.

I think that he believes, and this is the other part, too. We have, when we talk about the Brown's major moves, this is our last year with Deshaun Watson that we have the guaranteed money, and then we have. So I think he knows with the quarterback situation, that's the only part that's kind of throwing me off because I don't know, if you're an owner and you're paying somebody $45 million, dollars. If he's healthy, I'm going to give him the first shot to be our franchise quarterback because this is the end of the $250 million. And the healthy Deshaun Watson, like, we still have Shador under a rookie contract. If I'm like a $45 million, there's going to be a quarterback

competition. But if I'm leaning towards a $45 million guy to see what I can get out of the last year of what I own. Do you know what I'm saying? So I think with that being said, we need obviously Offensive line is looking crazy because all of our whole line was up. Wide receivers. Big time, we need some wide receivers. I love the tight end. I love our running back. Keep the defense intact, but just honestly go heavy, heavy, heavy on the offensive side of the ball.

Heavy on the receivers, heavily on playmakers, even like you said in the free agency, trying to go get some established wide receivers. Like, my man, like James Wilson, James Wilson from the Lions, like somebody a deep three at real legit, real legit number one. So receivers, line, cool. It's also a rumor that they may be looking at Malik Willis. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No. We have, listen, we're sitting there with the Sean Watson, Chiloree Sanders, and we still got Dylan Gabriel. Like, I'm not, like, we still got, we got three quarterbacks right.

now we don't need another quarterback to bring. Why we bring him in Nick Willis? Obviously, we get rid of Dylan Gabriel, but I'm just, no, right now, we got Deshaun, we got Shadour, we have Dylan Gabriel. We have the room filled for the quarterback for the Browns for the next season. I know that might be the future, whatever, but we can talk about that next year. Come on, Joe. No, man, we're going to be able to figure something out.

We got to see. You can't, no, no, no, no, one year at a time. I got you. I got you. I got you. no need to get Simpson because you're already, well, we don't feel should do it better anyway. We need talent. We need receiver, talent. Undeniable talent. You need undeniable talent. But we know, we got talent. We have talent, but at certain positions.

Yeah. Yeah. And don't get rid of no. Don't get, I heard some crazy stuff. Don't get rid of nobody. Miles Garrett, chill, Denzel Ward, chill. Mm-hmm. Facts. We don't know. Maybe. Where does they want, what was somebody willing to get? give a four first for miles. You know? Hey, dude, you say four. Four.

Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And there's no disrespect to miles, but that's what we need. I was just saying. That's all I was saying, you know. Mm-hmm. Brother, you know, I don't know who go, you know.

I'm asking something crazy, though. Like, yeah, I need all of those. Anna, uh, I need all of, and the James, and I need all of those from the Lions and James Williams. No, they ain't going to give you that. They can give you all that. I don't know.

No, they ain't get you all that. Well, I'm going to ask. You're going to have to tell me no. They're going to have to tell you no. Speaking of the Lions, man, the Lions, D.C., Calvin Shepard, he said, Arnold, he said he need to be quiet and just play. Sheppard said, I need him to be quiet and just play. Guys, you know,

I don't know if the media, he said, I don't know if the media would like that because I'm sure TA gives you guys a lot of things to write on. Mm-hmm. I guess he got a podcast with Patrick Sertained. Yeah. Joe, a podcast. Do you think that would prevent a guy, especially in being his second year? He's a sophomore. He slumped up, I guess, a little bit on that sophomore year.

And then I think he got hurt too. But do you think a podcast is really going to affect a player taking the next steps? So there's 24 hours in the day. So I don't think a player doing a podcast will affect his play. I would definitely highly not recommend it just because that's that extra that you don't really need when you're a young player. You kind of want to keep the main thing the main thing. I hate to be like, you're just strictly a football player. and then you can't, you know what I'm saying, do your side stuff.

But when you're doing your side thing about football and it may be affecting the locker room, and especially when you're a young dude, that's just a lot of pressure. I kind of want to stay out of the way, do your job, keep it going. Because the league, you're trying to get your second contract. Like, you're a young dude. You're in your second year in the league. So I would want to make sure, like, as much, they're trying to find reasons not to pay you. And if you're Patrick Sartan, Patrick Sartan,

Patrick Lottetam making $40, $35 million a year, and he's bawling every week. So I know my man, at TA, he probably, he still, I just don't want, I just wouldn't want the negative energy to come at him for doing that. Hey, Joe, hey Joe. What's up? Joe, listen, none of this might be an issue anyway, bro.

The front page of the Detroit News right now says Lions Arnold tied to robbery and deduction. That's this morning, dude Well, I'll tell you this They're trying to Dude I hope this is not true Yeah, I hope that's not true

But is we're talking about right now That ain't go much matter Are we talking about that? He got robbed No Or he is tied to a robbery And abduction of another Okay

Joe Yeah Oh my So the podcast. You send this to you, buddy. Wow.

So, but let's just, yeah, let's pray that. Look at it, you see it? That's the sentence to you, brother.

That's crazy. That's front page, dude. This morning, bro, that's not sports, bro. That's front page.

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's crazy to put that up there and it not be any type of, like, you killing this man's character,

reputation. That's guilty. This better have some weight to it, bro. If they don't, he need to go on head and, whew, buddy, sort of breaks up off that. But if it does, oh, my goodness. Lord, have mercy. They ain't going to have to worry about him being quiet

and just playing. God. That is not. That's not. Yeah, man. That's a lot more than what we was expecting. to talk about my man's the podcasting. Wow. That's wild, bro.

Brough, speaking of wild, speaking of wild, over there at the draft, they say they got the athlete of the decade, the best athlete seen out there in the last 20-some years. So Sonny Stiles,

hey, he then generated a huge buzz over there to 2006 NFL scouting combine with his performances, dude. This man got a four four six forty tied for first he got a one point five six ten yards split that's tied for first forty three point five vert that's tied for first and eleven two broad junk that is first kai hey joe demand two hundred and forty four pounds joe His specimen, Joe.

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What is, what is tape looked like? Oh, State. You know what this tape looked like. I know this tape looked crazy. Okay. about playing with me. Okay, okay. You know I went to the O, the University of Ohio State.

You out here lying to the people. Right. Listen, the records got burnt up. When I was there, the record building, it got burnt up when I was there. And then I ended up having to go to Kent to finish. But I was there. I was there. Sunny style.

All I tell you is this, this, this combine is ridiculous. Stats crazy. Joe. What was your combine numbers, Joe? Man, my combine numbers, man, I had a bad combine. I had a bad combine. I don't like- Yo, what was your numbers?

Man, my 40, I had a strain back because I did the 40. Joe, gutting the Lord. Joe, can you give me your numbers, please? Do I got to get the book out and start writing down? for this. It was a four, five, two. Four, huh? Four, five, two.

That's what I tried to tell you. I need to give you the preference because I ran it with a strain back. But then I ran four, three, seven at my pro day, because that's my real 40 time. That was hand time. Okay. Shut up. So then I did 225, 18 times. I had about a 35 and a half.

And then I did 106 broad. But let me tell you this. Let me tell you this about the combine. What you want to tell me, Joe? I feel like something negative about the combine. They treat you like cattle. Okay? They treat you like cattle.

They run you up and down. You got to do the little dog and pony show. You do all the meetings, all the interviews with all the teams. It was very, very stressful. Okay. And then when I did my bench, I strained my back. but I'm fast and I knew

I was going to run 4-3 so I was like you know what I'm gonna go ahead and run regardless because the team like Joe you're going to run you're going to run

I'm like man that's what I do I'm fast that's what I do so I run I go out there during Debo I run a 4-52

so sad and that kind of messed up my whole head but when I left the combine how did that make you feel it made me feel really bad because I thought I messed up my draft stock

And I'm like, end of the day, the eye in the sky, the tape don't lie. I'm in the SEC. I'm guarding AJ Green and Julio Jones practicing everyday versus Percy Hartman. Do y'all think this is fake news of me covering these dudes? Look at the SEC championship. That's me and Julio. Strive for strive, fade ball, one-on-one. Digrout, I'm on them.

You know what I'm saying? So you used your past to help build and motivate you make you feel good about your future. Yes. But I say that to say, I don't like when teams put too much emphasis on combine numbers. Because they didn't mess up, especially when you ran how you ran knowing that you were injured positions. I was stressed. I was sad. Pissed.

You think that affected your performance? I think that made me make sure I locked in. I didn't watch Sports Center for two months. I didn't watch TV for two months. Me and my dad went to the training room and we were locked in and I just trained. to train for the pro day. And when I went out there and had the pro day, it was one of the Swedish pro days.

At Florida's pro day, me, Tebow, Dunlap, the Pouncy Twins, everybody out there. Yeah, that joint was jumping. Mike T was out there during Mike T was like this. Hey, Joe, I ain't going to lie to you. You going too early. I'm going too late for you. I said, ah, my bad, it's all good, Mike T.

I might see you in the future, coach. You know what I'm saying? I was talking to folks like that at the pro. They Debo, so that's when I got my swag back. That's when I got my swagger back. Huh? You got your, I said, who did Mike take that year? Y'all took Pouncey.

They all took Pouncey at 16. Uh-huh. And I went seven to the Browns. You went to the Browns. How did you think that turned out? Who you think had a, got a better deal on that? How does that make you? You know what?

You know what? I'm glad I went to, I'm glad everything worked out for the way it did, because I went to the Browns, and the city showed me to, craziest love, and I grew up in Cleveland. You know what? I will say that they are, they are some supportive friends. Man, that city showed me so much love.

That's why I love Atlanta what I do. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they stick with y'all, no matter how trash you are. And it's not, they fall. All the coaches, all the different train around. I'm walking in there. I'm like this. I'm like this.

I'm like this. I'm a, oh, yeah, you know what? I'm a winner here for show. I'm going to bring us a championship. You want to know my, uh. That's what I thought. Hey, hey, you want to know my draft numbers? My combine numbers at the at the combine, Joe?

What? I ain't get an invite. You ain't get invited? You know what I ain't invite me, Joe? You want nobody ain't invite me? Because they don't know you? They ain't know. They ain't know. They came and did my pro day, Joe.

And they was like, no, we can't invite him. We invite him. We go go ahead and put him in a position. That's going to make him look better than what we got here. So I was running a 435, Joe. I had a 46-5 vert, Joe. You did that on Pro.

See, you did that at Pro Day. That was hand-time. That was hand-time. This right here was electronic. And I was hand-time. And you hand-time. I was 11-9 on the broad, Joe. You didn't run the 4-3-5.

I would have been the shortest and heaviest player to ever do it. You, that is for sure. You're the shortest, strongest, heaviest player to do it. That's a fact. But you was not running 435 electric. I'd be damn. Get out there. Joe.

Joe, I was running track, Joe. I was, listen, Joe, I was running a, listen, Joe, listen to me. I'm not listening to you lying to me. Six and a hundred, Joe, on senders. Oh, shut. I knew you was lying. You said that 435 electric, you get out of here. Get out of here.

I'm done with you. So, they were scared to put me in there. I believe you on that. You were the shortest man, and they were scared to put you in there. They were scared. They were, all these records broke.

Well, you would have went first round. You would have went first round. They didn't want, listen. Listen, they ain't want that. They ain't want that. That's what they ain't want. They're like, we can't have nobody from kids. They're going at the first pick of the first round.

It was broke the comb by a sheet. Every record, done. What you would have hit on the bench? Honestly, 225 coming out. What you would have hit on the bench? Oh, at least 40. At least 40. At least 40.

I hit 18. I was too powerful. They changed rules for me, Joe. I hit 18. I hate 18. Ah, national football league said, hey, they hitting too hard out here. They said the boys hitting too hard. They said, we got to do something about that.

You want to make me the poster boy, Joe. Because you was trying to, yeah, you were. They're talking about player safety. It wasn't about no player safety. Bones was trying to get 18 games back when you did the 2011. Y'all had that in the frame for trying to get 18 games then. And then you went and got the 17 games. And after you got the 17 games, the guys' pays didn't increase.

You said, hey, we know you signed the contract under 16 games, but we're just going to split it into 17 games. Don't get an extra pay. And they're going to do the same thing to y'all when you go to 18 games and they're going to split it again because we have, y'all have no leadership. That's why you need me. That's what Debo need to bring it around. To the NFLPA needs you right now.

Hey, I'm James Harrison. I'm running for executive director of the NFLPA. And I improved this message. Let's go, Joe. Hey, Joe, look here. I don't approve this. I don't know what was going on. Before I even get started, I don't know what was going on.

But the NFL network cameras caught Aaron Glenn. Oh, my gosh. It looked like he might have. Look like he might have been catching the nap. I don't know if we can show that or not, but it kind of looked like he might have been catching the net. We probably can't show it because it's NFL. You know what, Jay.

Yeah, don't we get to do that. He might have been just resting his eyes. Bro, I'm going to tell you one thing. That combine, he was up. Oh, he's been there. He's been there. Somebody had to get my daughter, A.G., a coffee or something, or he just needed to take a little quick power on that.

But I know one thing. He's fully in it. That's a man in exhaustion. That's a man that is fighting for sleep. He's sleep deprived, okay? And that's why I want to see. It's a lot, man. I mean, that's a lot.

I mean, that combine is a lot. How many of them fall asleep, though? Was they just targeting my guy? I mean. Did they just target my guy, man? Yeah, but yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, I don't know. Listen, I don't know what you got to do.

I don't care how long you've been up. Whatever you do. You can't do that. You cannot close your eyes in front of them cameras when you were three and 14. Or like a long blink either. You can't even blink long. Bro, hey, it was down. What he should have did.

He blinked. When he was like this, no, when he was like this, he should have stayed there because he caught the camera looking at him. And what he should have did was just a quick glance up like this and put his eyes back down like he was looking at something. But when he did the switch over, that kind of big, they was like, oh, yeah, we might have got him. You should have put some food in front of itself and then thought like he was praying. I could have been looking at it. that's something like right there like I was reading it as it was going on. And I had needed to see.

So I go ahead, hit the quick glance up. See, they looking at me, look back down and then be like, yep. Your or, or, or these. No, Joe. You can't do that. You can't do that that far away and make like you're looking at the combine, Joe. Ah, they give away.

Hey, hey, you can't do that. Hey, Joe up there watching the combine like this. Like, dude. And why they only show him? I'm sure it was another, it was at least two, three of them up there sleeping doing the same thing. There's 3,000 cameras in that joint, man.

You got to go. I have to know where to hold them and fold them. Hey, they locked in on them, though. Why they lock in on him, though, solo? Man, listen, because I'm, they be, they be jumping sweets at the combine. So, like, if you're sitting there, you're exposed. They be jumping sweets camera.

Bing, there we go. We got the Titans coach in there. Ooh, okay, bam. Bing. Oh, we got. the Jets Coast over there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how that worked, you know, I didn't.

Yep. See, I could teach you a thing or two about the combine and I could tell the should have told AG, head on the swivel. They always, the Netflix, John, did you think this is a big deal or no deal? No big deal. I ain't going to lie to you, Debo. It's definitely not a good deal because, like you said, it's optics. It's optics.

I don't care how tired you are. Like in meetings, you just can't be sitting there just, boom, gone. Like, hold up. now, you know what I'm saying? Wake up, stand up. You know what I'm saying? We got to look. We got to look locked in.

We can't just be looking. You can't look sleepy. You know what I'm saying? You got to look intensive. You got to keep some ammonia. Got to keep some ammonia in your popping jumps. Pop that day. Wake up.

Ooh. Ooh. Because just no, when you step in that. Oh, my. See, that's what then you got to think about that. What's going on? I wanted to make sure I was right and seeing what I was seeing because I was so excited I'm just turned up for these 40s.

I just love it. It's just so many 40-yard dashes. I got to see how his feet planting and turning. If he's splaned his feet, if he's playing his feet, turning the men, if it's straight, heels, toes. The combine, bro, I ain't going to lie to you. I feel like it's just shouldn't. They shouldn't take it as serious. Not as serious.

I'm talking about it's good for the number. Watch the tape. The tape don't lie. But if it's going to show you, like, to confirm what you've seen. I'm just saying, Hey, Joe. Yes. So you did get better numbers

after they did the hand time, right? Yes, way better numbers. Okay. Because I'm, I'm really fast. Joe, that's what I'm saying. I'm just asking you a question. Why are you attacking me? I want to make sure I'm stating this factually.

You keep attacking me. Joe, I'm just making sure I'm stating this factually. So your combine. time really didn't hurt you. It didn't. Okay. Your tape did the talking. Yes.

That's a good thing. That is a good thing. They did a good job. Because I, yes. Because I can lie. It was one DB that was coming out that I knew. We just need to get him off the board and then it's going to be your boy Joe. And that's why I'm a man.

I can admit it. That man, you know Eric Barry? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, Eric Barry, Scary Barry, Tennessee volunteer. He could have got the He could have got the Heisman when we was coming out of college. He was so far at Tennessee. I was rude.

He was, man, he was doing his thing. And I knew one thing. Just let Scary Eric Barry get off. They got picked him at five to the Kansas City Chiefs. And then I was back there like, anybody needs a DB. You can call on Jody. Call on Joe. Call on Joe.

Call on Joe. And Cleveland called on Joe. They did, man. Joe went there and had him a Hall of Fame career. Oh, beautiful thing, beautiful thing. Never won a playoff game, though, but it was a beautiful Hall of Fame career. I love it, Joe. Well, okay.

Yep. What? No, yeah, I appreciate you. Yep. I don't even want. I'm not even going to. Why, I feel like you... What's the problem, man?

You always got to say... What is the problem, you know? You always want to say... Tell me what's the problem? Because you want to... I don't even want to say what the problem is because you're going to say, I'm just stating facts. Never won a playoff game.

But you know what? It's just you always want to say a little something. Joe, I'm not, I don't know why you tripping, bro. You make like, I'm doing this. I'm not doing this. I can't do this by myself, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, you didn't have a team around you that you needed to get it accomplished.

A thousand percent. You know? That's what I'm saying. Yes, yes. And I did. You see you. I can't. What you want me to do?

I don't want you to do anything, Debo. I don't want you to do anything, but don't address my playoff record again. I mean, okay, please. That's what I would just ask. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't win a playoff game. Debo and Joe's show.

Debo. Now we know. Now that the air is clear. Could you please stop with that? I don't understand why you get so offended. Like, what? Why? Tell me why. Because the goal of the game, Joe, is you play to win the game.

You play to win the game, Joe. And you won games. Yes. You won games. Beautiful thing. You won games. You play to win. Ultimate goal is the Lombardis. And you got two of them. And I'm happy for you. My co-host, Brother Debo, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've been thanking the Lord so much for, I've been so blessed under. This is an I-Heart podcast.

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You know? Yep, you know what? I mean, I ain't got to never worry about having myself in Mexico when something go down. I can't afford to go there. I can't afford to go there, Joe. Ah, okay. I'll take it. I'll take it.

You know, hey, hey, beautiful thing. But, hey, bro, I know we ain't did this in a minute. And there's been the many moons, but Joe. What we got? You know, at time of the end, time for player fade presented by prize. Joe. Yo. The combine going on, Joe.

That's crazy. We went on ahead and the staff they cooked up a lineup for 40 projections, though. Okay? And we and you and I can either choose to play this or fade. Mm-hmm. Now, you got Caleb Downs. they are saying less than 445. What do you say?

That's a good number. I think I... I think he could be faster. I'm going to go faster. I agree. I agree. I'm going to go fast. I think I'm thinking something like maybe a 4-4-3, 4-4-2, something like that.

Okay. That's what I'm thinking. Then you got Zachari Branch. They say in below. So we're talking about... He's supposed to be a burner. less than 4, 3, 5. Where are you at with that, Joe?

Let me give you some inside school. Give me some inside school, Paul, Burr. The boy ran a fo-fo in high school as a senior. Oh, he ain't... He ran a fo-fo in high school. High school as a senior. As a senior. Okay, all right, better.

Let's do it. I got a ride with that. Let's do it. Let's do it. I got a ride with that. Now, listen. Carson, bad. in flippity gym that Carson Beck is that slow.

It has to be less. At least I'm thinking, 0-7-9. Okay, 4-7. Yes, I think Carson Beck is too athletic enough for sure. No question. And over in this quarterback, we're running up four-flage.

We got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, They say more than a 4-47. Where do you think, Joe? Oh, he's definitely going to run over a 4-47. You say he's going to be more, so you think he's going to run a 4-5? Yeah, he's going to run a 4-5.

So you go play this. Only one I'm... The only thing I'm hearing you, Debo, is Buddy, when you're saying about he ran a 4-4 as a senior in high school. I don't... Is that a 4-3-5 at the combine? Electric? that was high school dude that was like four years ago you telling me that was that was at the underarmor that was real oh okay that was under armor okay okay okay oh bad no see's a real burner

yep let's get it yeah let's get it yep I'm gonna play this I'm gonna play this I'm gonna you you play this Joe I'm gonna fade it you gonna fade it I got to fade it I believe I believe Haynes King I think he'd go pull out there with a four four five I got a faded. See, you know what? See, I'm going to have to write. That's why you're able to pick and choose. You see what I'm saying?

I'm going to play it because. Pick something that you like. The only one that you don't like, make your own pick, you know what I'm saying? I'm man from Ohio State. If he come out there and run under date for that, too, he's going, he's already about top 10. You ain't list. That's what I'm saying. Pick choose.

That's why you do your picks how you want to do it. You can do it how you want to do it. All you got to do is make sure that you go in there, baby. And you know what to do, Joe. Come on. Hey, download the app. Download the app, baby. Debo and Joe.

Hey, listen, and once you download the app, use the code Debo and Joe to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That code is Debo and Joe to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Let's go, baby. Let's go. So I'm going to be watching the 40s.

I'm going to watch Caleb. I'm going to tell you. People are under that full. Four, five, he made himself to. He already made himself, though, because he did it on film like he's supposed to do. And now he's just checking boxes. I'm telling you, he'll go, he'll put it out there. I'm seeing.

Even if you don't do it. I'm seeing that four, I'm seeing four, four, four, four, three, four four two, maybe. Want to get to some of these? Yeah, let's get to some of these super chats, babe. We got. Oh, we caught a dude, but. Mackay, what is it? Michael Randall.

For three, $10. He said, Joe, glad you back home. Thankful to see you today. Hey, Joe. Yes, yes. Can you tell us how you got signed to the Jordan brand and was it a good signing? Dibo, would you push for your sons to play for the Steelers?

How did you get signed to the Jordan brand? Joe? Man, I had a, my PR crew, they ended up reaching out to Jordan because I was trying to get, I was with Nike when I first came out. Jordan was not rocking with me. It was just kind of hard to get in touch with him. So I played my first three years and I'm like, look, my agent couldn't get me in touch with him. So I reached out to Usain Bolt's agent. I was like, anybody that can get me with Jordan, please. And she ended up having a relationship, went out to Mexico, met with MJ, and they let me into the brand. So that was how that worked. It worked out real smooth, and that was a great relationship.

Nike got so many different clients like Nike over the NFL. They just got them, not all the players, but majority of them. Jordan, they only probably had like 20 of us in the league. So we were getting the shipments, the different shoes coming in. They was giving us the Nike account. So we got money on there to get to the family. So that Jordan plug was crazy. Yeah, buddy.

I don't know what that's like, bro. I couldn't get no shoe deal, nothing like that. Hey, Shaq, I'm Shaq, Shaq, I need a shoe deal, man. Let me get some of them Shaq. Burr, you definitely get a shoe deal. Hey, would I push for my sons to play for the stillers? I would push for my sons to play for anybody in the NFL. That would be a blessing.

And I would hope they would be far, far greater than I and just destroy anything that I did. And they would say, you know, his daddy used to play too. You know, he did all right. That's how I want them talking about me because my sons play so tremendously way For sure

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I was That boy Edom Dibbo love your boy man I was ready to step in. I know you do, bro. I know you do. You ain't got to tell everybody, D. I know.

I know. I love you, bro. I know, bro. I wouldn't, I wouldn't buy, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go get choked up. You know, I had to make some calls, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, for sure. You had to make sure you was all right. Coming to life back again, $5.

She said, how can we be a legendary fan tries with poor ratings like that? Who creates these report cards? So basically nothing. has changed since four rents. No, it's changed. It's changed a lot. So the big issue is we share a facility or the still is shared facility. Pissper.

Half the facility is shared with the college. And that means half the fields out there are shared with the college. So it's really nowhere to expand right now. Locker rooms have went from, you know, what was used to be 53 players now. What is it, almost 65, 70 players now in there. You know, it's to the point where you actually got, you know, Lockers sitting in free space just, you know, because it is no room, nowhere to put them. Bathrooms is nowhere to expand out through.

You could try and expand, like, towards the field, but then you can't do that because you end up losing the field. So I just really think the stillers need to be able to get their own facility and it will be able to change, you know, that aspect of it. Yeah. But other than that, it's nothing. Believe me, it's a big change from when I came in my rookie year. My rookie year, Joe, we used to work out on an outside weight room that was on the field. The field used to be a part of it used to be a baseball field. So the weight room was planted on.

The practice field? Yes. The weight room was on hardwood platform, just sat down platform on top of the baseball diamond. You go in the tent outside and you know how hot it is. It is. That's how you're working out, bro. Yeah, man. The locker room, metal cage is this big, bro.

And there was no AC in there. You just had to bring an AC and put it in the window. The first year I got there was the first time they actually had Central Air. Because they got those buildings. Those buildings were new then in 2002, 2001, something like that. Like, they didn't have that whole locker room area, none of that. They had none of that. None of that stuff was there, bro.

It was crazy. So you're right. They are doing better. And we said, who's creating the report cards? Ain't it the players? Yes, sir. Yeah, the players are creating the port cards. Yeah, I mean, so they know.

I have been accurate. Like, you see, you see what it is. And I think some, and other teams make other teams look bad. Because when you got teams that look like the risk Carlton, then you got teams look like, you know what I'm saying, a little Motel 6 jump. It's just, it's like, and they're not trying to knock Motel 6,

but I'm saying there's different classes. There's a reason why there's five-star hotels, and there's a reason that there's motels. Yeah. Yeah. We got Covenant Life back $20. Said Debo, I saw a clip where R.C. said he would tackle Derek Henry. Henry was looking at him like it was a joke.

I believe R.C. with one hitter, quitter his ass. What did you say? 2008, Stillers' defense. All should receive a go-jacking. Hey, I ain't going to say he go one-hitter quittering, but he damn sure he'll stop him. that's 100%. Now, if he catch him on that cut,

and he just now getting square, R.C, got a full head of stand, yeah, I think he might, he might get him to drop to a knee come out of play or two. Depending on the angle, depending on the time. Yeah. He's coming with that. He's coming with it.

He don't care. Don't care. He's going to put itself to sleep, too. Hey, no question. It's going to be too-do-sleep. I tell everybody this, to put somebody to sleep. You got to be willing to put yourself to sleep.

Debo. You got to be willing to go to sleep. A thousand percent. I'm willing to go to sleep, Joe. Yeah, no, no, for sure. I'm willing to go to sleep, Joe. I was, bruh, I will put myself to sleep. I was ready for it.

No question. Not in the bag, but that's you got to live. We got coming at life back again. Coving to life. You don't give anybody else a chance. Covering the life. We appreciate you. We appreciate you $50.

Covered it. She said, Country Club, Will Howard needs a chance. He's a baller. As the Role Ty fan, Ty Simpson is okay. He really didn't have a great, he really didn't have great targets, but Will Howard is the true.

If we're going to do anything, get a veteran like Rogers, and keep it moving. Howard, please. I agree, but if we keep Rogers, we won't see Will. That's the only thing. If we go get a vet,

they're like this. Okay, we get an event to steady the ship. I'm like this. We don't need a vet to steady the ship. We need to see what Will going to do. We got to go get somebody else that's going to be a dog because there's no steadying of the ship. That's just basic.

Like, no, we need to get that offense back popping. If you get it moving, like. Because you're never, you're never giving him an opportunity. I don't see Aaron Rogers coming in there and saying, oh, hey, I'm going to come in and be the backup. Just in case, Will doesn't work out. That's, I just don't, I don't see that happening. So, I think we had, we had a, we had a.

point where it's, you know, we go see what's going to happen, sink or swim. And that's going to be, I mean, that. Oh, shit. So hold on. Yeah, but if Rogers come, dude, he's not going to get a chance. So we won't even see. We'll see, we'll be sitting there wondering what happened unless, you know, something happens and, you know, Rogers can't go.

You know, I don't wish injury on nobody. So I don't want to see that happen or have that be the circumstances of which, you know, we get a chance to actually see him. Yeah. I don't want it to be in because A. Rod is a. A yard. Coming to light back again. She said, Joe.

Oh, so I go. She said, now you say, can I see the jersey you're going to send me? And when can we begin to purchase Debo and Joe hoodies, t-shirts, mugs? I actually like the jersey you have on, Joe. Oh, thank you. You know what I'm saying? A.I. Allen Iversa.

You know what I'm saying? Finals, Joe. You heard what she said, Joe. Yeah. You want to see the jersey. You're going to see it, Joe. That's going to take me a little, you know what I'm saying? I got a little square foot.

He's going to take me a minute. I got to go downstairs. Oh, my house too big. Oh, my house too big. Sorry. Cover the life. All like a. Hey, if I reach here, I'm going to get you.

If I reach here, I'm going to hit the living room. If I go over here, if I go over here, I can. You're a liar. You're a liar. You're also in your office. Joe, I'm telling you. I'm my bed right there. You're also in your office.

So, everything within arms. No, I want to hear that. Yo, I wake up and I come over here. Yeah, yeah. You and I go off that doing right there to the bathroom. When you moved to your iPhone. So here, it's only a half bathroom, too. I take a bird bath every day, Joe.

I promise you this. I came forth for a baby. I don't even want to, I don't know how I'm going to do it. Because I want to send it. I'm going to send it this weekend. Should I go get it? I'm sending it as soon as I leave the show. It's already ready.

It's already packed up. All right. It's already packed up and ready. I'm going to see what she get first. I'm overnight. I'm overnight. Joe, look here, Joe, it's 1235A, sorry. Oh, we got to get it over people, but, you know, we got to talking and walking, and that's what happens.

Listen, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please like and subscribe and download where you get your podcast, Joe. Yo, we will see you back. Guys telling you right now, I'm back, I'm safe, thank you for enjoying me, and we will see you here on Monday. No, Joe. We go see him here tomorrow on Saturday. No, I'm lying. We'll see y'all on Monday.

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