Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: NFL Power Rankings + Brandon Marshall GOING VIRAL

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Green Bay Packer star Micah Parsons' recovery timeline from knee surgery, Brandon Marshall going viral for a parenting video, and much more! D...ownload the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE 00:00 - NFL power rankings (Cont.)09:22 - Micah Parsons injury timeline17:39 - Brandon Marshall facing backlash38:54 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. It's blatant disrespect, Debo. Blatting disrespect. Right now I'm with the stillers. I'm on the stiller side. The good thing is they're coming from, everybody's underestimating them.
Starting point is 00:00:14 It's good, though. It's good. Because they're going to go out here and play still. You know what I'm saying? So them saying the defense is being old and all of this stuff, forget what they're talking about. We got ballers. We know what we got on the defense's side.
Starting point is 00:00:30 the ball. We know T.J. Watt is ready to come back and prove that he's worth that bread. We got Nick Herbick. He knows that he wants to show dudes he's a top five pass rusher in the league. So he got his time to come eat. Alex Highsmith, he knows he's trying to go get another bag. He deserves. He feels like he's better than Herbert. All these three dudes, they feel like they should be top of the top. So we got all you under contracts. Go show it. Go do it. Let's see what's Listen, it's easy to show it. I'm just saying, though, understanding, Odebo, with the secondary. We got the coaching staff, we got the players.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Thank you, Joe. What did we see when we were sitting there the whole time, Joe? When we were sitting there watching games, when we call each other and text each other and we're watching games, what are we talking about? We're talking about breakdowns. We're talking about technical positioning of guys doing the same thing over and over that it's completely wrong. So they have to be taught that to do it because it's not just one guy doing this.
Starting point is 00:01:25 There's multiple guys doing. Yep. So we need to be. You can not beat bad technique, horrible alignment and assignment, or point blank, period. Like, it's just a ungap sound defense. Yep. I'm just trying to figure out, too. 10 and 7 last year, one of the division, understand Joe Burrow was out, Lamar Jackson missed time.
Starting point is 00:01:49 They didn't get, as I don't feel like, like, but the, Ravens lost the offensive alignment. the Bengals, their defense, they lost, Trai Hendon. He went to Baltimore. They did get my big man for the defensive tackle. But, like, it's how much better did you really get? Now, we're going to have to go see you. You're going to have to play the games. But the still are still at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:02:09 One, 10 games, one division, have the same quarterback, got the same players. I feel like the offensive line got better. The defense, we got a better corner. We got another, we signed Sean, as a quarterback, just in another year for everybody to just grow. So the disrespect for the Steelers is I don't understand it. You know what I'm saying? Is it, is it because A-Rah is a little older? It's because they think the-
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's because A-Roy is older. That's what they're saying. You got this out of him last year. What makes you think you're going to get any different? Because we're going to get more from the rest of the team. They didn't coached. They will be taught. They will be actually putting positions to succeed.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah. Yes. Schemes. Game plans. Thank you. We're, we're standing ahead of the sticks. We're up. The defense is being able to pin their note,
Starting point is 00:03:01 being able to come after the quarterback now. Difference, yeah, yeah. I'm excited about it, though, because just looking from it, me and you were thinking the whole time off-season moves were going great. We just were worried about the quarterback. Now we got A-Rod coming back to a better squad.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So now, okay, let's see what the hell's going on. We don't have to work. No, we got the players. Now we had our QB. Everything was cool. first when they was putting this back way deep because we didn't know who was going to be the quarterback. We didn't have Will Howard or Drew out. I'm like, okay, bet, we could chill.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We could see about that because we don't know. We've never seen these dudes play. But we got A-Rod now. We know exactly what A-Rod can do. Coming off, he knows it's going to be his last year. He's locked in with his coach. No question. With the better players, with the receivers, with the line, with the running game.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Like, I'm just excited to see. I think we have a full team, offense, defense, special teams. everybody plays well, we're going to be right there. Right what we need to be. Like, we went from, what was it, 22, 22 to 19. Huh? What we did, that's it. And then you telling me, with what Baltimore did,
Starting point is 00:04:12 move them up three from 14, what Cincinnati didn't, Cincinnati shouldn't even been in 11. That's what I'm, they're just putting it all on, Burrow and acting like those defensive changes are going to help them just average. Don't let them people score more than 25 points the game on you. I'm not, no.
Starting point is 00:04:33 That's not good enough. To put them at nine. Like, come on, bro. What did they do with the offensive line? What was the great improvement with the office line? The same one that got his ass hurt last year. Nothing. Shit, and the year before that.
Starting point is 00:04:50 You met some time a year before that, didn't he? Yeah. Okay. Brough, and the Browns, what does they? God. See, they, they put the Browns of 28. They put the Browns of 28. Only reason why I could keep this, I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You good? Okay. I'm not mad at. I'm not mad at. I know you. We're going to have to, this is a dad. We're going to have to show them some. We're going to have to prove ourselves.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And I understand that. I think it's going to be Shador. Shador. Shadur. Shadur. Shadur in that offense, we're going to have to see what they can do. Our defense, we got to. Now, Mr. Miles, seeing what verse in there, we're going to see what our defense is going to be able to do.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I know we still got ballers out there. So it's going to look a little different. Let me see what it looks like. But if we can get the top 10 defense, offense, we got to score over 20 points a game. We can get the offense to score 20 points a game and then special teams tighten up. It's the same way, Debo. It's a full team game. Defense, got to still be, defense last year, we weren't in the top.
Starting point is 00:05:51 We can get back to top 10. Get back to top 10 defense. our special teams was selling last year too. Don't. Not selling. They were sold. Get the special teams, right? And now when our offense, just be able to get, be competent offense.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Let's get 20, let's average 22 points a game, 21 points a game. Let's get to that point. Not 30. Let's get 21 points a game. Smooth. Let's see if we can do that. So I'm just, I like that. Shador's going to be able to get a chance.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I, if when he does, with these receivers, with Boston, with Casey Conception, with our running game and our new line, just to be able to, Let's go out there and now we have receivers that can make plays. Let's see if you can get it to them. Let's see if our running game could stay ahead of the sticks. Don't make him have to do craziness all the time. You know what I'm saying? Third and fours, third and fives.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And then Shador, what did you learn from your pocket presence of not patented all the time? When you're trying to escape, don't wheel around. You know what I'm saying? Making quicker decisions with being able to run, escape or get the ball out of your hands. So just the team, full overall team. I'm not 28. Okay, whatever y'all say. We won five games.
Starting point is 00:06:54 games last year, but I'm still understanding we got to put the work on the field. We got to show them. Our offense has to actually score points for them to rank us higher than this. So, Browns, I'm not, it is what it is. Let's see what we can do. Okay. I ain't, you know. You know, you rocking with that, right?
Starting point is 00:07:09 I'm rocking with everything you said, but, you know, a five. Fifth worst, you know, just five. I think y'all could be a little lower. Just, man, no. How? Because you're the rounds. You go find that. 28, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm just talking.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Y'all, y'all, you'll figure a way. It's disrespectful enough. I'll just figure a way to end up lower than that when she's in over with. Damn. Tell me. It's disrespectful enough. I'm, I, I, I don't know about respect, disrespect. I'm just telling you what it is, man.
Starting point is 00:07:48 That's just how I can't help what I can help. We're going over here to Green Bay, though. Michael Parsons is expected to, to, miss at least half of the season. According to recent report, Parsons commits significantly more time than initially expected as he continues recovering from its torn ACL. He suffered last season. From a Green Bay, for a Green Bay team that invested two first round picks and a record-setting
Starting point is 00:08:19 contract in the superstar pass rusher, the latest projection is, far from idea. Joe? Yep. What do you think of this, Joe? You think Mike, Mike, I'm missing more than
Starting point is 00:08:34 half of the season is, what do you think? Just, I mean, I know it, I don't think. It's going to be tough. That sucks. When you draft a Pellier like Michael Parsons, the thing is you give up those first round
Starting point is 00:08:50 picks because you expect immediate, immediate greatness, immediate first team all pro immediate probably defense player of the year type production um so obviously this sucks for them because you're missing out on all of that but for micah i would think that career wise and long longevity if you're going to miss him for this year and a half you you don't want him to rush back because you might not get him at all so the thing is not trying to brush him in it sucks already for sure you wanted to have your best player because you sent out first round picks. You gave him this new deal, but you much rather be able to have him at all than to try
Starting point is 00:09:25 to get him and he'd be weak and get himself hurt and this continued to be a thing. So, I mean, it sucks for the team, obviously, but not rushing back and will be the best thing to be able to try to get him. So when you do get him, you can have him for long term than trying to rush him and get it back for the beginning of the season. Like, injuries is 100% chance that people are going to get hurt. Let's not rush him back and get him re-hurt again and have him always looking like that. Let's try to get him back to his full capability because you sign him to a long deal. You sign to a five-year deal. You're giving him $40 million per year. So this is a long-term player. It's not a one week-by-week thing. You're going to want him for the foreseeable future.
Starting point is 00:10:03 So take your time with him and make sure that when he does come back, you don't have to have continued setbacks. Well, that's something that Green Bay, I guess, was not really trying to do. because earlier this year, Parsons talked about how Green Bay followed a strict recovery timeline for ACL. And he said, I think the goal has always been, not right now, but longevity for my career here. He said, there is no good outcome for players coming back early from ACLs. I agree with him. People talk about, well, Patrick Mahomes is coming back and all the other stuff. Yeah, Patrick Mahom is a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Okay? I know they were both injured on the same day last year, but Patrick McHombs is a quarterback. Patrick McHombs doesn't have to go out there and get into confrontations with a man every place. This is a 100% smart move by Micah to make sure that he takes the time so that he can come back fully recovered, especially when his tear was a non-contact tear. and when you're looking at non-contact tears through the significance of people who actually tear the other ACL, it's a higher percentage because now you are actually putting more force. You're putting more because you're coming back too soon. You're not 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And he's like, you know what? I'm not going to do that. And it's smart of them not to do that. You just signed a, what, four-year, $188 million max, where it could be extension. Okay. And in year one of it, you averaging, what is it, $47 million a year, bro? In year one, he gets this, it happens. He got $136 million of that that is guaranteed. So basically he has a three-year deal. And you're telling me you want him to come back year two and not miss any time and come back before he's 100% when he does that, he's going to risk, again, injury. And if he's able to come back, he's not going to be the same. player. So after that, his third year comes around. He obviously won't be at the numbers that he was before because he's being unplayed. If he makes it through there, if he's not looking at his third year being injured again, now he's done. His guaranteed money is up. His contract is done,
Starting point is 00:12:29 even though he has a year left. That would be foolish of him to do that. Like he said, longevity of his career, period. So yes, Micah, get 100%. Do not come. back until you are 100% why? Because your money is 100% guaranteed. And when that unguaranteed money starts coming up and you're miss half this year or whatever that time is that you end up having to miss and you come back with whatever year and whatever time you have left in this year and you're 100% and you go out there wreaking havoc and you let that lead into year three and you finish that year three on top of
Starting point is 00:13:09 your game back where you were. now year four is guaranteed. Not only is year four guaranteed. Now you can re-up. Now he's at what, 28, 29, doing another three or four-year deal to finish out his career
Starting point is 00:13:22 versus trying to figure out what he's going to do if he goes on a one-year improvement. On a one, yes. And now he's sitting there in limbo. Hell, no,
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Starting point is 00:18:33 come back and you can move and do all that stuff, we're not telling you to relax or try to slow down your rehab. What I'm saying is, you know, once you hit that football field and you start to play, they're expecting 100% of Michael Parsons. There's no, you're out there. Oh, no, he's getting back for injury. No, you need to spad. You need to be getting sacks.
Starting point is 00:18:53 You need to be able to be still doing the exact all-pro things because you're getting paid as a baller. So don't come back in there. Oh, no, he's trying to get back into it because that's going to have you looking weak. You only as good as what your film says. So if you come back, step slower, moving forward, you're not Michael Parsons anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You got to come back and look like a dog. Be getting off that ball. No switches, none of that little fake stuff. Because it's like, no, now you're getting an older in your career. We already gave you the bag. Is this a thing? Are you injury prone? Is it going to be a one-year deal?
Starting point is 00:19:26 These prove-it deals that are coming to you? Or, no, that's out of the books. This man is getting off the ball. He came back, 11 sacks quickly if you get through half the season. The last nine games of the year, he gets 11 sacks. They're like, okay, that's the same Michael Parsons. Next year, you're healthy 100%. Ballout, 16, 17 sacks.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Now you're back to right where you normally were. You come back gimping a little bit, looking a little crazy. they're not that that that that's on you they're going to be like okay no Micah's Parcans is injury prone well yeah we had you back but you really had you back but you weren't really doing no work shit what's the used to me coming back if I can't if you telling me you go hold that against me I'll wait till I'm 100 and then you can hold that against me they're not going and it's not they're going to tell you whatever but it's going to be held against you if you're playing on fields it is held against you period
Starting point is 00:20:12 you shouldn't be out there they'd be like why why hell you out there because you're out there like Y'all, no. If you're out there, you better be hooping, period. No question about it, brother. Do what you doing, Micah, was best for you. Because, hey, listen, that guarantee money is there for a reason. For opportunities and things like this that are unfortunate to happen, but so that you do not have to rush back, you can come back at 100%
Starting point is 00:20:38 and then you can go ahead and get ready to re-up on their ass again sometime later on down the line. Brother, Brandon Marshall, they say, say is facing criticism for disciplining his son making him run at two o'clock in the morning. Look at look, look at this. Look at look at this, Joe. Okay. There's no different than when we were in L.A. Santa Monica running at midnight on the pier. We wanted to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:07 We love to do that. And then there's correction. Then there's discipline. You're walking. Run. Run. Discipline correction is good. Even two in the morning.
Starting point is 00:21:17 We run. I don't got to put my hands on you. you. But I'm training you up to be a warrior. I'm training you be up to be a leader, to serve, to have discipline, to be better than me. Run. Run. Let's go. If you don't start running, we're going to go three miles. So you better start running because you don't know when I'm to tell you to stop. You don't want to listen. We run. We work. Two in a morning. Let's go. faster. I'm driving three miles per hour. You should be going at eight or nine
Starting point is 00:21:53 miles per hour right now. Go. This truck goes to my mouth for a promise you we're going to the gas station, which is three miles. Down and back is three miles. Right. I'm at four miles. I'm at five. I'm at six.
Starting point is 00:22:09 There we go. Now we're moving. Run. Discipline. That's how you're going to learn it. Come on. What do you think, Joe? So, here, I'm going to let you see. I guess so on the page right here, they got a, it's like four comments that were the top comments on this page.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Okay. One of them said, that's family business, not Instagram business, okay? Another one said, I don't know about discipline, but definitely gave him something to unpacking therapy in 20 years. Another one said, sir, this is whack and embarrassing. I have four men, all whom I had to discipline at some point, but never embarrass my children, especially in this area. This has gone viral, so the amount of jokes and lives from his peers have gotten, he has gotten, could shatter his confidence. Kings, real kings, move with stern, but fair hand, and always protect the kingdom. This is completely not needed, but you do what you do.
Starting point is 00:23:19 another one the last one said you should never discipline a child with embarrassment and messes up their mental health state kids are people too this is so lame it didn't need to be public if this is how you wanted to discipline that's fine you did this to show off on the internet i hope you take this down and i've read some of your comments learn how to take constructive criticism my guy most of us aren't trying to hurt you, just giving good feedback. Take care. Joe, what do you think, Joe? Man, I think Brandon Marshall gets to discipline his kid, however he wants to discipline his kid.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I think the posting it on the internet might be the only thing that I would have probably not have done. Because describes on, what did your kid do, you're disciplining your son. somebody we don't know what he did we don't know what he did i don't know what the things are so i'm just going to go with if he's disciplined in his son having to make him run outside at 2 a.m., that's
Starting point is 00:24:27 nothing like if that he did not there's there's consequences to actions he said his son is not listening so there's going to have to be there's actions so he's saying he's going to discipline him in the way he wants to discipline him there's going to be actions there's going to be consequences for you not listening to your father so i don't know if people want to however they decide to how to do it, he's disciplined in his son a certain type of way. He's not putting his hands on him, he's not doing nothing, but he knows there's consequences for you not
Starting point is 00:24:56 listening to me. And that's what a father should do, because out there in the real world, people don't, there's not, there's consequences to your actions. So the way that he raises his son, I only think that just putting them on the internet and showing all that, like, I could, that might be the only thing I wouldn't have done because
Starting point is 00:25:12 that's a, that's a you and your son thing. You handle your relationship, you discipline him how you want to, but the putting it in, he's, not embarrassing them. I mean, it is what it is. Your son, he's not listening. You should be embarrassed. Like, I don't think that's, he's not, that isn't bad.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, what people get all in their phone, you're embarrassing a kid, he had to deal with that. I'm like, what? Like, it is what it is. People getting picked on all the time, but that's just, thank you. That's something that's happened. Like, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:39 He wasn't just whooping and make him look crazy. Give him the haircuts, you know, you don't listen to your breasts. You see the joints. They zip the whole little haircut, just give him a whole little haircut right in the middle of his head. and sitting in the school. That's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Some of that, that stuff is a little while. Having his son run down the street, a little jog, he's sitting there three miles an hour like, okay. Like, that's what he's doing with his kid. He said, we were doing it in Santa Monica at the pier, you know what I'm saying, as a fun thing? They do conditioning normally. So instead he's not,
Starting point is 00:26:06 whoopening like, son, you got to go run 2 o'clock in the morning because you weren't listening. That's his thing that he had with his son. So I'm not against I'm not mad at at all. I would say the only thing was he didn't, you wouldn't have to post it. on Instagram, but if you did, that's on you. I mean, I don't see anything too bad with that at all.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. So, I don't know what he did to get ran at 2 o'clock in the morning. Like, I ain't about you. I don't know what he did. And I don't know if I agree with it, but I damn so don't disagree. I don't know if I would do it like you said, the way he did it as far as
Starting point is 00:26:58 you know, putting him you know, on the internet and all that and doing all that. Like that's something that like I couldn't do. You know what I'm saying? Of course my discipline is different. You know what I'm saying? My discipline
Starting point is 00:27:14 was a good old fashioned ass whipping. My discipline was a good old fashioned belt to you know what I'm saying? So what I should have ran them niggas last night when they, when they,
Starting point is 00:27:25 when they, when they, when they, see, see, that's crazy. You can't hold up,
Starting point is 00:27:29 man, man, man, but not sending your father's day test. I'm still feeling some kind of way
Starting point is 00:27:33 about my, about my breakfast, about my, my, my, my birthday dinner, okay? I'm still feeling
Starting point is 00:27:37 some kind of way about that. Anyway, let me, let me give, let me get back to this right here. Now,
Starting point is 00:27:44 you know, you got people saying, oh, he shouldn't do that. He embarrassing him, and, you know, he's going to mess up his mentor and all that other stuff. First off, I don't know what he did.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Maybe he embarrassed his father in front of people. I'm telling you something that he did because I was always told embarrassment, you go get yourself embarrassed. My mama said, hey, where you act up is where you get fucked up. And if you act in the middle of the grocery store, you'll put your ass whipped in the middle of the grocery store. Where you embarrass me is where I embarrass you. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:18 what happened there in that process. But again, I'm, I wouldn't do it that way, but I wouldn't do it that way. I'm not against it because you know how your kid is going to respond. Yes. You know, you know. When it comes down to a dude, they're saying, I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, that's you.
Starting point is 00:28:41 That's how you parent your child. You're doing your child. You're doing what's best for your child to recognize that through this process. of what you're calling discipline, this is what's going to work best for my child. That ain't what's going to work best for your child or that's not what worked best for you. Mine was spanking ass.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Spanking ass, you know why I spanked ass, Joe? Because between the ages of two and six, as soon as he could say yes and no, and he understood what yes and no was, I now have a choice to spank that ass because I don't have an opportunity to reason and logic with a two to six year old. I can, or whatever that age it is, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah. I didn't whip my children out of anger. I whip my children out of discipline. So if you do A, then you get B. You do A, then you get B. It was never a, oh, you know what? Let me tell him something five, six, seven, eight times. And now I'm mad and I want to whooping.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. It's no, it's no, it's no emotion. It's no emotion. Yes, dude, it's no emotion. It's identified a behavior, corrected. That's it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Now, when things are, they get older, and now they can reason and understand stuff, you take the belt away. Or maybe they understand a little sooner. Because for me, I didn't realize the escalation. Okay. So mine started off with a hand, a belt, you know. And then it jumped higher than the belt. Mine stopped at a belt. My kids couldn't take no ass with me.
Starting point is 00:30:23 You realized early they couldn't take that. So I actually thought my youngest was going to be the issue, you know what I'm saying? Because I popped him when he was like two. And he gave me that, mm, gave me the look. I'm like, oh. Oh. So I went on head. I'm like, hey, I'm trying to tell him, look, come up here when I call you, you come up here.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah. I said, I don't move him. I'm coming down there. I pop that leg, right? So I walked back upstairs. He's still standing there. I said, come here. He ain't come here.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I went right back down there again. I said, pop that leg, dude. By the time I got up the steps, went to turn around, he was on my tail. On your heels. Knock him down, trying to turn. So, like, I knew this going to happen. But for me, my escalation was a damn extension cord, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Oh. And I never forget to do it. I was 14, bro. I was 14 years old, man. And all my sisters and brothers are there. Like, all my sisters and brothers at the house. Mama, she's like, oh, come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up here. I'm about to whip your ass. What did you did? Joe, I don't even remember what I did.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Okay. All right. Okay. Wildness had to. Hey, now, now, now remember now, my mama was a disciplinarian. She, hey, if I say, hey, my mama tell you to take the trash out. If you ain't going to take that trash out in 20 seconds flat, that's disrespectful and that is disobedient. It's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. You're talking back. obedience. You didn't say nothing, but you're talking back. Okay. And it ain't no pop. She ain't hands in you. She's whooping ass, right? So get upstairs. I'm about to whip your ass. Okay, cool. All my sister and brothers down there. She'd get upstairs. She do her thing. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. I'm muslin it up. I'm
Starting point is 00:32:01 I'm muslin it up. I'm not. I'm running back downstairs fast in my sister and brothers. They're like, what, what, what happened? Do she, what you do? It hurts. I'm like, no, you know, it's whatever. Joe, it's whatever. It's whatever. You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm high shining on her. I'm doing all that. Yeah. She came down and steps, okay. She looked at me. She said, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:23 She said, I got something for your ass next time. I said, um, okay, whatever. I'm like, you don't already whip me with that belt. And I didn't talk that like a man. I took that like a cheap. Joe. Joe, I don't know why I said that bullshit. You're wild.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You're wild. I had the nerve to do something else. I don't even remember what it was. But it was the last time I did everything, anything, Joe. She whipped me Went an extension cord, Joe And I can tell you right now, Joe
Starting point is 00:32:49 She only hit me nine times Nine times, Joe He hit me two times, Joe And I couldn't even stand it I jumped up out of there Like I was like I was a damn Crab and Hot Water On that second one, bro
Starting point is 00:33:03 Woo! Brow! Hit me again on that gun It was two I couldn't take it two Ficing I couldn't take it two I'm at six now Joe
Starting point is 00:33:11 She said you keep your ass still for three I might let you get up. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHart Pride Canada, your favorite hits and must have party bangers,
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Starting point is 00:37:33 In love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I said, ooh, let me muscle this. God, damn, Debo. I said, yeah, I told you I had something for your ass next time. I said, Joe, I said, I can't never do nothing wrong again. Because I don't know what she's going to escalate to after that.
Starting point is 00:38:03 That's what I'm saying. I couldn't take that, Joe. That's what I'm saying. I couldn't take that, Joe. So, Debo, this is what we saying, though. End of the day, my parents, too, was whooping my ass. And I was never getting my, I had four younger brothers. I'm the oldest of five boys.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So there had to be, me and my brothers always just fighting around and we needed to get discipline. My dad and mom never whooped me without me needing to be whooped. Like I always thought like I deserved. Like I never just walked in the house and got hit upside the head. No, you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing. Boom. So I always knew when I was about to get whipped.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And yes, I'm opposite to you. I'm scared. I'm crying instantly trying not to get whipped. I know that I'm going to be like, I'm going to get you. I know. I know. So I take one.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I'm crying and I don't want to do it no more. So I would be trying to get us out of these weapons because I know if I'm going to get what, I deserved it. I never walked in there on no dumb stuff. So my mom and dad, he's like, it hurts me more than hurts you, son. I about you a damn lie in my mind.
Starting point is 00:39:08 But I know what he's talking about now. Because he's like, yes, dude. You can't do this and expect not to get, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I always would be good because I'm like this. If I'm chilling and me and my brothers are doing the right stuff, I will not get felt. I will not get whipped. My dad is chilling. My dad is the coolest dad in the world.
Starting point is 00:39:27 But if I mess around and do something stupid and I know I'm about to get whipped, that means you did something dumb. If I know I'm about to get whipped, I'm going to this. God damn it. Why did I do that? You know what I'm saying? Like that's just knowing there's consequences. Consequences and repercussions, Joe. I know right from wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:45 So that's why with my boys, I was always on them early because this is the thing my dad would say. When you see those kids that don't listen to their parents out in the grocery stores and things like that, shut up, mom. You know what I'm saying? No, mom, give me this. I'm like this. Oh, my gosh. They're doing that in their homes.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So you think that your kid going to sit there and talk to you? They're talking to you crazy. Right? Crazy yurt. People talking to you nuts because they're talking to you nuts in your home. They just didn't start that while they're in the store. and feel like it's okay for them to be like, shut up, mom, you're crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Give me my cereal. I'm like, oh, my God, what did the kid? Hey, is that kid lost his mind? My kids are looking at that kid like this. Oh, my God. Hey, said it to his parents. Oh, my God. Oh, no, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm like this, yes, son, you see what I see. Joe, all that candy they put out to check out. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Get your ass with. Debo, Debo, and guess what? That kid is disrespecting their teachers.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That kid is disrespecting everybody because you walk around now. there's no consequences to whatever you say. You could talk to anybody however you want and you think it's sweet. You walk around to somebody else and get popped right upside your face because that's not the way you talk to people. It's not the way you communicate.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's not nice. It's not kind nor friendly. But when you were a kid and you walking around and you're talking to everybody your own way, you walk into a room, you don't speak. You just think like you got it. I'm like, no, that's not a disciplined child. You follow that child home.
Starting point is 00:41:10 You see their parents, they're talking to them in the same exact way. And that's what we did not want. So when I'm walking around, they're like, man, you guys so respectful kids. They're so nice. They're so kind. I'm like this. They better be.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Because that's the way that I've raised them because you just have to be nice. You treat yourself. You treat people the way you want to be treated. You walk in, you say hi. You never disrespect. Like the kids, if your son, you're walking around, you want to protect your kids. You tell them, hey, come here. You tell them to stop because they're about to walk into the street and get hit by a bus.
Starting point is 00:41:40 They don't listen to you. They step out there. They get hit by a bus. us. My son, stop. Instantly, boom, come right over to dad because he knows your dad. You listen to your father. You listen to your father.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Instantly, there's no questions asked. You know, why? Because I said so. Ain't no why. There's no why. Because I said so, because I'm doing what's best for you. And you know that. I would never tell you to do something that you don't need to do.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Because I said so. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Because I said so. That's what I'm talking about, D. Joe. So we're not trying to be like crazy. No, no.
Starting point is 00:42:16 We know that there's somebody that has to be law. And I'm not, when you say, I'm not your friend, I'm your dad. I'm your dad. No question. I'm going to go. I can be your friend later in life. But right now, I'm your father. And I have to teach you the right, right and wrong way.
Starting point is 00:42:32 What's good, what's bad. Discipline. Because then you'll know when you're walking around, I need to know my son knows right from wrong. And then when you do wrong, that was a choice that you made, son. because you knew I taught you the difference between right and wrong. I taught you the right thing to do and the wrong thing to do. Now you made a conscious decision yourself
Starting point is 00:42:49 to do the wrong decision. Ha! That's on you, bubs. You know what I'm living in this life. But when you're in my household, you're going to know what's up in a good way. No, no, no, I'm not bullying you. I'm not trying to with you. But you know, when you're walking around here, you're walking around here smooth, you being nice and you're being, you're not,
Starting point is 00:43:08 nothing's happening. We all living good. You come here talking crazy. Who are you talking to, son? There's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's the problem with a lot of families or a lot of parents that don't discipline. Some kids cannot, don't have to be physically disciplined. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Some kids, very few. Very few. Because here's what you're going to run into is once that child realizes that you are not, there's going to be no actual physical punishment. or discipline for what they do wrong. I don't have to listen to anything you say. James, go stand in the corner. I say, no, I'm not standing in the corner.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Just a buck. Well, what you're going to do? Well, you better go stand in the corner. Well, I'm not going to stand in the corner. I'm going to do this. Well, I'm going to get your father. Well, what will he go do? He whoop a ass?
Starting point is 00:43:59 No, okay. I'm not doing it. Now, he's going to talk to me too. I'm going to have a conversation. No physical punishment. No physical punishment for this. They don't have to listen anymore. They become adults that don't listen.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Now you wonder why he's sitting over here locked up, why he's at school getting kicked out because he's not listening. There's no punishment. And then he realizes that, I can go and do this and say that and nothing happens until he runs into somebody that's like one of my kids that been taught.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Somebody say something to you, put their hands on you. It's two different things. He can say whatever you want. You ain't tripping on that, okay? We go, we go let that ride. But the minute he touches you, I don't give a damn if he puts a finger on you, you let him know, you touch me again, and I'm a thrash. And then you go and whip his ass.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Or you give all you can to do it. Because at the end of the day, dude, they got to realize his repercussions and consequences. And when there's no actual physical punishment, especially for a child that realizes that I can do whatever I want to, and my punishment is, if I don't want to listen, I don't have to listen. and it's nothing that happens from that, it's over. It's over with, dude. You have not a leg to stand on.
Starting point is 00:45:16 You ain't got a boot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. It was 80s. We need 80, babies. Pray, just pray, pray to God, get on your hands and knees because that's all you got left. That's all you got left. When was you born, Debo? I was born a 78, baby. Oh, yep.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You were 78, out 89. That's just, dude, that's... Bro, you missed the whole 80. I'm still 80s. I made it. No, 89, not really. That's like me saying. How are you going to say 89 isn't in the 80s? It starts with an 80s.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I understand, but damn. I mean, I'm moms. So the kids born in 99, they really born in 2000. You might be going to go. Don't steal it from me. You might be in 2000. I'm in there. I'm an 80s baby.
Starting point is 00:45:58 80s baby. That's why, you know what I'm saying? I feel like 80. I feel like if you were born in 1989, you got everything. You got a little bit of everything. If you 37 years old right now, you're old, yeah. You prime.
Starting point is 00:46:11 You're young and prime. You got, I don't know about that, Joe. You ain't telling you, the 80s, the 80s. If you was born in the 80s. Did you catch the, did you catch the free lunch at the pool in the summer? Yes, Debo. Okay. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I'm just checking? Hey, you already know. I'm just checking. I'm just checking. Let's jump into these super chats, man. Let's get it. Man, super chat. Lady Iron 23, $5, appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:46:36 She said, Happy belated Father's Day to my two, happy belated Father's Day to my two favorite morning guy. Yes. Love you. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Love you. Mike, Mike.
Starting point is 00:46:53 He back. Mike, $1005. Said, what up, Debo and Joe. Sanders wins Browns, a Super Bowl. Be bigger and crazier parade than the Knicks. If Sanders wins the Browns. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Listen. Yes. I'm trying to tell you. Oh, my. That man, you thought Braun took over the city. That man. What? That man.
Starting point is 00:47:15 That made a full-blown statue. I'm putting it up. We know that shit ain't going to happen for the Browns. Man, they disrespect the shit. You know? Do some craziness like that. We put in a statue. I'm putting it up.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Day of. All right. Go ahead. Keep on. Keep on. Keep on. My plan. Joe.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Coming to life. She back. Ten out of it. First of all. Happy Father's Day. to the both of you also. Thank you, coveted it. Men of God, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Covered it. Devo, Debo, I have a, I said like you, Devo. Yeah. Debo, I have an apple bees card for you because you love cheap stuff. And Joe, I have a Zo steak and seafood card for you. Yeah. I'm not saying that I love cheap stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I love what I can afford and still be able to keep a roof over my head. Man, that's like, that's what I love. I love to be able to live, you know, every day and not be like, oh, snap, am I going to eat today and splurrs and not be able to eat tomorrow? You know? That's where I'm at with it, Joe. That's why. Okay. Like, I don't, you know, that's, we got covered in life.
Starting point is 00:48:28 She is back. We got covered it. Come on, covered it. She said, Joe. What's up? My guy as a Brown's fan slash player and dad. You spent your years explaining things that don't make sense. Damn!
Starting point is 00:48:42 You're qualified. You're overqualified. Hey, covered it. I was waiting for you to say something, grophy. Damn, coveted. That was a good one. But listen, we got time. We're just going to watch the season.
Starting point is 00:48:56 We're going to watch another four. Yep, yep, yep. I mean, it's a possibility you all could be looking at, you know, doing a little something and having at least being in the fight in about two, three years, maybe. Man, you know what I'm saying? Y'all are, man, covered it. Barring, barring, that we don't, we don't go ahead and, and convince Joe Burrow to come on, come on through. That's, you know, that's the only thing that would basically put y'all back into a, you know, a huckle buck, you know, and a headlock.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Why everybody keep tripping? As long as we understand, look, by the end of this season, we're going to know that Shador is him. So then that's, that's, that's, that's what I'm waiting on. By that time, then this one we're going to know. Okay. We just, we just, we just, we just, we got another one right here. We got candy glue here $82665
Starting point is 00:49:40 said rocking my Dibo time shirt at the gym what bicep tips you got all right look here this is what you do
Starting point is 00:49:52 you want to do like a giant set yeah you're going to do like a you're going to do like a say a low pulley close grip curl lay that down
Starting point is 00:50:05 to a incline comfort curl, and then hit that to a hammers. You want to do hammer curls? Yeah, get that mess with hammer curls. All right. All right. So low pulley close right here. Tiree, comfort is out here, arms out like this, literally hanging down, incline to here.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And then the other ones, hammer here. Boom. Yeah. There you go. Come on. You know. You know. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:47 We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe. And oh, we got Covenant Life back, Joe. Oh, Covety. What's up? Covered it. She said $10. She said, Joe, the Browns finally gave you a Father's Day gift.
Starting point is 00:51:06 One less excuse for why Pittsburgh gives living. rent free in Cleveland's head. Love you, Joe. You know it. All right, Coffin. I can't wait until this season. I'm going to be on your game. Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I'm trying to tell you, man. Y'all start liking these episodes, man. Get it up there. Man, we appreciate y'all, man. We will be back here whenever Joe say we go be back here. But again, thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like,
Starting point is 00:51:40 subscribe and download where you get your show, Joe. Come on, we will see you tomorrow, same time, same place. Let's get it. We out. This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human.

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