Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Rams Super Bowl Expectations, NFL Injuries getting worse?

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Trent McDuffie discussing the Los Angeles Rams Super Bowl expectations, Troy Aikman on NFL injuries, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline: 00:00 - Trent McDuffie on Rams SB Expectations07:40 - Troy Aikman on Injuries24:00 - NFLPA32:10 - Play or Fade presented by PrizePicks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Trent McDuffy, this goal is to bring a championship over there to the Rams. Now, the Rams, I guess, actually considered trading for A.J. Brown and then explored trading Devante Adams. But with him over there, where do you think? this ranks the Rams among the NFC contenders. Right at the top. I mean, they still, look, they played against the Seahawks. Damn, they ain't even won the Super Bowl.

Look, because it was Seattle. They had to play against Seattle to get there. And that was the only team. The only reason why Seattle's defense was a little better. You know what I'm saying? The offense there met with Stafford, Puka, them dudes were putting up crazy amounts of yards. But Sam Darno ended up balling.

So I'm thinking they're losing. Seahawks lost more than they've gained. They lost their running back. They lost Walker. So we're going to have to see what they look like. They lost their starting other cornerback. You know what I'm saying? So their defense might not be as good.

I'm looking at the Rams, their offense, still intact, still status quo. So if they're going out there looking like that and then if their defense can, their past defense was the main thing. Like, I think if their past defense gets good and their defense gets better, then they're right where they're at. If you have a quarterback, you have receiver, you have the running game, why aren't the Rams up there? The reason why they were lost was because I think that defense kind of let them down. It was never they couldn't score enough points.

So if they can get some defense, they can end up stopping some of them, some of the people that are scoring on them all the time. Then they break back in the mix. So I'm loving that. And I'm what? No, number one could tell. No, I mean, who do you like? Who do you like? Joe, do I like?

Who I like? To be honest with you, Joe. I kind of got off on a tangent to just being against you because of the Browns. Yeah. And I actually think the same thing. But I just, you know,

I gave my feelings, Joe. That's why I really, sometimes you agree with me. You just be wanting to not. I just be wanting to fight. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I just want to fight. You know what I'm saying?

Listen, man, what was it? Yes. The Rams gave up a one or five in the six. Of course, they think this man can help bring them a championship. And when you look at it, just as you said, day past game was the Achilles Hill leading down the stretch hell. They were only 19th in the regular season, giving up 216 yards a game.

And then they jumped into the playoffs, and they up that to 276 a game. So with him being in there, I'm 100% of, you know, I'm 100% with, I see, I almost said, just naturally. I'm 100% with you that I think this puts Seattle as the number one contenders over there because now they had him when it was time for them when they were playing Seattle, then it would have been an opportunity where him being on the field could have led them

to being there playing in that championship game. So I'm a 100% with you on that. Like I said, Joe, I kind of got into my. Yeah, you're just ready to go against me, man. Soon as I get to talk about the, soon as I get excited about the Browns, you just get hype and mad. It's something to eat up inside of me, man. You like, oh, you just, yeah, you get real mad, man.

Real mad. So I'm going to keep on. I mean, even the, I mean, they consider even getting AJ, like, I guess on Friday the athlete reported that the egos had serious conversations about a trade for AJ Brown with, oh, the Rams and the Patriots do. The Rams are out of it. And I guess the Patriots, they're saying, are still in play, brother. They're looking at possibility of doing a deal after June 1st. So according to, I guess that was heard that on, that was Flores that was seeing that on right there.

A bunch of possible moves, but from the moves that were made, especially the McDuffie move, I really feel like they are. Dude, what if they got AJ? If they got AJ, they would have had to get rid of, you think they would have rid of you think they got rid of Devante then. Because I don't think they're going to have, it did no way it's going to have been Puka, AJ, and Devonte. then.

That's a lot of money, though. I think AJ, I think, AJ is like for 29. I'm saying. I think Devante is 24 or 25. And Puka's not going anywhere. They got a sign. Pooka's not going anywhere.

So, I mean, if I was them, I would just keep it, I mean, keep a status quo. Steve, keep a status quo. Because it's even, DeVonte, he's still, he's had 14 touchdowns this year. And Matthew Stafford is tossing it to him. Money's good. I'm just keeping the status quo.

I'm just keeping the status quo. just like it is, you got to get puka the bag. He used to still stealing because he's the young one. So when he gets up, you got Devante, vet, chilling, you don't hear much. You know what I'm saying? Staying out the way. And that was something else I was thinking, too. I'm like, how does that go go?

What if he don't get the ball, you know what I'm saying? You know, how he take off when he don't, you know, he don't get the rock. Like, I'm just not. I'm just not. But I'm like, if you're playing with the Rams, Matthew Stafford, you got to get your, the highest receiver, he doesn't get Calvin Johnson the passing record. He didn't gave my man Cooper Cup the record. And then he gave Pookin the Cool of the record.

If you play with Matthew Stafford, you're going for the record. Man, Matthew Stafford need to be up in his pay, man. That's what I'm trying to tell you, Debo, when he's Hall of Fame because his talent, he can just throw the ball so good. And now next year, I'm not, I'm rocking with what they're doing, bring some defense because he's still, he's putting up 30 points. Like when I was watching that Seahawks game, that's why I thought the Rams were legitimately going to win

because I'm like, all right, we got Sam Donald versus Matthew Stafford. And he ended up bawling out, you know what I'm saying? Sam Donald did his thing. So that's why I already had to give him all of respect. But Matthew Stafford did not underperform. He wasn't slacking on his pimping. Like, no, bro. But also I told you, Rams, they defense is what was going to get them.

Bs, I told you. You told you they was go get him. Yeah. Told you. Told you. I did not. I did not. I just, I didn't.

I was, I was a non-same believer, and I had to go eat crow. Because now, I was like, no. But then, but I get, I show, I show love. When you show me, Sam, I'm off your back, coach. You did that. You just got to, you just got to lead Joe to the water. You know what I'm saying? He had drinking for a second.

Just got to, just got to lead him to the water. I didn't even know that water was here. The Jets, they needed to get led to the water. The Vikings needed to get led to the water. All of them. So it wasn't just me. Joe, Troy Aikman, he said he thinks easier training camps lead or led to more early season injuries. Do you agree, disagree with this statement, Joe?

What do you think? I think he has, so I think two things, like a little bit of both, a little bit of both. I think there is, there's no way you can really train for football. You got to kind of like get that physical, that, that hitting, that tackling. What you say? It's a way to train for it. We just ain't doing it. Okay.

Okay, you, you, let me, let me say my piece. I would say yes, yes, because. All right, hold on. Let me ask you this question then. Let me ask you this question there. Okay, let me ask you this first. All right, Joe. What was your first training count?

like at the pro level versus what your last training camp was like it at the pro level and then let me go back even further though what was your first training camp like in college compared to first year pro last year pro it's not even close the physicality uh the time on field the heat um just the the time on field is what it is, with pads, with no walkthroughs. You know what I'm saying? You're out there, full padded practices both times, and that's what it is.

So I think the conditioning, the wearing of your pads, the just you out there, you're sweating, you're drenched. And it's, now the games were so easy because that training camp was so hard that it was like the game, you're celebrating. You couldn't wait to play in the game. The games was literally the funnest thing that you could do, because you and your homeboys, you're like, all we got to do is get a three and out.

Like, you know, let me pause you for a second. I'm going to let you continue after this. You said it was half this, half that. Your explanation now is telling me everything that it is. But go ahead and then tell me where you're at if you agree or disagree. I was, no, because when I'm saying that, I think being on field, though, is our bodies, I mean, like the training, like I said, when I said you, when I said you can't train for, football, I meant like the on-field stuff that when we're doing these seven-on-sevins, when we're doing

these one-on-ones, when we're going like these one-on-ones live drills, when training camp comes, that's when we're really getting our craft right. Like, that's when you can really try stuff. When you can really do, you're going versus the ones, you're going versus the best of the best you can line up, you can really move and you can really come out of your breaks. You can get beat and it's okay, we're going to watch the tape and we're going to figure out how can we get my technique exactly right so you can go in, you practice it. And it's happening.

You practice, go watch the tape, and then you can go practice it again of like, now you can get to see how I move now, what I do better. So I would say that part is the thing that you. We're talking about the injury part of it. He's just saying that easier training camps led to more early season injuries. Do you agree or disagree? That's all we're talking about. From your statement, you have to 100% agree.

I have to 100% agree. That's what you said. I don't have to 100% agree. Because, I mean, he's saying easier training caps led to more injuries. Led to more early season injuries. Okay. Yes. I would agree. Yes.

Joe, no question about it. He is 100% right, Joe. Because when I came in, Joe, we did real life two days, brother, full pads. And even when we did shells, the shells was actual helmet and shoulder pads. And you just have to wear shorts. Yes, yes, yes.

You're banging. You're banging. Not them little soft-ass cushions that they wear now. And, dude, building up your endurance, building up your conditioning for football, but, brad, we were in training camp for like 32, 33 days in La Trove, br. And here's the issue, dude. Like, training camp used to be where you toughen your body up. season. And now the rules make it so they can't do it.

Along with, you know, what is it, only three preseason games. Add that with a good majority of the starters, dude, don't even play more than, what, 30, 40 snaps the whole preseason. Dude, it's a recipe for disaster. And when you get into week, like he said, early in the season, you get into week one, two, three, and now you're asking your starters, hey, Go out there, go 100 miles an hour, give me 60, 70 snaps, and your body hasn't been put nowhere close to that. And you wonder why all of a sudden you got fatigue, dehydration, which means your muscles ain't working this, but fatigue.

You don't have, especially if you got an imbalance in your muscles that is greater than 10%. And the outcome is soft tissue injuries and non-contact injuries. he's 100% true. Like he's, that's, I 100% agree. When I said you can't, like, practice, you can't play, like, practice football. You have to actually be in, on the field with these dudes doing 11-11,

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of you going up against a left tackle where it has this stuff on this, really putting his hands on you, and now you really got to fold and get out of the repetitions of that. So I used to love the training camp part because you're getting your craft so right because all the other stuff is,

all the little drill work that we're doing doing the off season, it's cute. But ain't nothing like you seeing another man out there with his shoulder pads on running real routes on you with the timing of the D-line getting after the quarterback. And you know it. The ball's got to come out. With them pants on. What you say? With them pants on.

With them football pants on. You ain't running around in the shorts. And your feet are starting to squish around because there's just sweat running all the way just down. Need more socks. You know what I'm saying? Because like after that, Once you go through that type of exhaustion, that game, when you actually come off, you get a three and out, or you get a 10-play drive.

That 10-play drive is nothing. I've been out here about to die during training camp and then run it back. You know what I'm saying? Run it back. Stay out there. And it's two and a half hours straight. Like, looking crazy. Yeah, bro.

Like, they don't go through those rigors. They don't go through that, you know, that build up to getting into that position. Another thing, a lot of guys off-season training ain't what it should be. man, my off-season training was so hard, dude. That was the thing that I thought about as soon as I was like, yo, am I going to retire or not? Let me go out here and see how I feel after a couple weeks of training. Do I really want to go out here and grind and put all this time in?

Because when the season came, that was the easy part for me. It was to build up to getting ready to go into season. And it was like, yo, I don't know. That was the fun part playing in the game. Like, okay. The game was the easiest part for sure. Yes. What?

Because that's the way the camps have to put you. Like you got to be comfortable, being uncomfortable. You're tired, tired at training camp, which you should be. You should, like, the exhaustion. Like, we out here work and work. And the receiver, they're just as tired as you. So, like, that's the good part. Like, everybody's out there.

We're going the same. So you just, you got to fight through it. You build up that, that energy. Yeah. And they're not getting an opportunity. do that no more, especially with how the rules change and all the, you know, you know, player safety is great and all that. And you know what? That was something else that he had said, too. He had said that, what was it? He said, player safety is great. As a former quarterback, he said,

I do like the way they protect the quarterbacks. But then he continues to say that with that said, The objective of the defense is to hit the quarterback and affect the quarterback. And sometimes I think we're asking a lot of defensive players to try and navigate a 300-pound offensive lineman and then not graze the helmet of the quarterback. So, Troy, thank you for saying that because these little taps of the helmet, like, they need to be taken away. unless he get bombed on and his shit turned sideways. He's looking out the earhole because his head, because I'm going to be that egregious. Come on.

I mean, got to be that egregious, but this wouldn't even knock my helmet sideways. Come on, man. Debo, I'm trying to figure out, too, like you said, you're asking, that man is going against another man that is pushing on him, pulling on him so hard that he's just trying to get to the quarterback. Just get there. And now once you get here, you got to, you know what I'm saying, manipulate the way that you hit them. I'm just, low down.

Don't go too hard. I know you just fought for your life getting there, but trying to eat. Hell no. And then, because then, look, the end of the day, because I know when I'm saying that the part when you hit them and you lift and then you drive into the ground. All that stuff, I agree. You don't have to drive them, but like falling on the body weight, like trying to just not making it obvious. Okay, we're here for it. But that joint, no.

You can't, I'm fighting for my life to get to him, hitting him on his leg. You're just trying to crawl and get there and they're going to give you a flag for trying to reach for his leg. I'm like, oh, no. Like, what do you want him to do? He's trying to get to the quarterback. That's his job. That's his only job. Listen, I got it.

We can call the flag, a flag if it's a hit to his helmet. Only if the quarterback is going to come out the game. Only if you get put to sleep. They're going to beat some action. If he concussed, and you say he concussed, he got to come out the game. We'll let you get the 15. I bet you they don't come up out of that thing. I bet you don't come up out of that thing, Joe.

No, they... So some people think now that the salary cap should take state income tax into account because I guess right now, Washington is looking at a millionaire tax. Governor Bob Ferguson plans to sign a thing. a thing into plans to sign a bill in that would give a 9.9% income tax on, I think, people who are making, I guess, what is a million more or whatever, but it wouldn't go into effect to 2028. And when you look at it right now, you have Nevada, Texas, Florida, and Tennessee since 2021, they had what they called the hall tax that ended in, So they currently have no income tax on theirs while California, of course, imposes 13.3% on the highest earners. And all this started in 91 when California started the jock tax. And of course, other states started to follow suit.

So by 1995, other states had did the same thing, some form of a jock tax. So after that So the interesting thing is like if they go and you say okay We're going to give them an extra Whatever it is on the 13 3 for a Yeah I don't I don't think it I don't think it matters or it would make sense I mean because it's going to be unfair some way Or form or another because when it come down to it

We have to file taxes in every state that we plan We get taxing the state that we plan we get taxing the state that we plan we get taxing the state that we live in and we get taxed at the visiting state that that we you know we end up going and planning so the ideal of raising the percentage of the cap by the tax by the income tax it you know it sounds like something that would make it even but I don't know if that would even work because of how it it taxes where you play where you don't play all the other stuff, it gets so confusing that I don't think it would help out. But who it would help is them Cali teams, man, it would take what cap is the day of 300 and 1.2 million. It would bump them all

the way to 341.2 million. Yes. But the Cali teams. So what do you think of the possibility of them raising the cap? Good, bad, and different. Where do you see it? I don't know if they were raised the cap. I don't know. When I looked at it originally, I mean, you know, people just don't like talking about all of the taxes stuff. But if you're looking at it in a way where the Cali teams, because I know the players, when you said like Debo, you're like, man, nah, that's it, Callie, that's about the taxes. I'm looking at it too, like a lot of the players, we probably should do better. I was one of the dudes.

I'm going to play where I want to play. I'm going to live where I want to live. If it's comfortable out there during the weather's good. like I would go there. So I think that's one thing with the teams like California, if they got an extra $40 million, I mean, extra like $3.00, an extra $40 million to their cap.

What? Like people going there regardless, that would be cheat code. You know what I'm saying? In my opinion. So I'm like this, no, don't add it to the Cali teams because everybody would be looking like, what do you mean?

Like people are already going there, not worrying about the 133 just because they're there in California, the way of life. So you're going to tell me. Like, I'm going to take the weather. I'm going to take the weather. I'm taking the 13th. That's called a weather tax.

That's what I called when I was living out there. They was asking me, they're like, yo, why are you living in Cali? They was like, you know, what taxes suck? It's a weather tax. Every day I wake up, it's beautiful out here. I can do whatever I want. I golf 365 days of the year.

Unless you get an earthquake. Look, earthquakes suck. Earthquakes up. Everybody got, everybody got some sucks to suck at their job. Miami, no taxes. You might get a hurricane. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

Like, no credit. Everywhere, you can go, but look, you do what you got to do. You know what I'm saying? So with the Cali part, I'm like, if they added that bread, that's kind of cheat code. And then they was looking like the teams might not want to spend as much because then they have to try to hide their taxes. I'm like, all that, I don't care about what they do, whatever. But if California was to get 340 to those teams, that's not fair. I'm another owner because I'm like, they already going to Cali.

You're going to get them another 40 to just add to. to their roster? No, sir. Please not. That's what I'm looking at it. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure, brother. Like I said, I don't see it working out because of all the different things of where you're paying taxes here or there, all that other stuff. You can't, you just got to keep it where it is. And if a dude want to play there, he's going to say, all right, that's part of the benefit or negativity of being able to, like, people that live in those days. Like, you got taxes that's coming in. That's like, that's the, that's the Cally tax.

And dudes in the league, like, all right? Okay. I'm being Cali, right? And some of, most of them ain't looking at that. You got to realize I ain't started looking at taxes, bro, until they gave me a check. That wasn't a million dollars, bro. That's when I'm snow for Chene. What they're taking out here?

Hold on. Who was taking out each piece? Which part can I prevent? Like, which part is mandatory? None. Which part is my fault that they're taking it out? None of them. There's a damn thing you can do, bro.

man look here man the NFLPA has reelected Javin Mavon's Reeves Mavon as the president and I'm dude I really like I said I talked to Cam when I went down to the facility before I got my TJ when I was getting my T's ledger's you know the TJ Lidger and uh cam seems to think he's you know he's he's good for it I don't I just I just don't agree I don't feel like to dude got the knowledge understanding. The crazy thing is, dude, if he hadn't got picked up at the end of the year by Clea, that wasn't, no, by the bears with three games, he wouldn't even have been eligible to run for the position.

So right now, they have three guys that are running for, or that, the committee, the members, the player reps, the executive committee, no, it's the executive committee, sorry, the executive committee, sorry, the executive committee pick that will now be running for executive director. And that is one being David White, who is the current acting executive director. Did you know that David White is also an agent? And since he's an agent, he's not allowed to serve on the NFLPA executive committee, but because it's considered a conflict of interest, but he can run for it. executive director.

Okay. How does that make sense? He can't be on a lawyer committee, but he can be the man that's running, going in there negotiating. Number two is CJ, what is it, Trader. Trotter.

Okay. Okay. That's, this is the guy who actually resigned when the former NFLPA executive director resigned. Okay. So he resigned. don't know exactly why he resigned.

It was some rumored that maybe it was something going on that he had involvement with the other executive director that resigned. And then the other dude, how do you say his last name, Tim P. P. Per, whatever it is. This dude is the dude from the Rutgers basketball abuse scandal, right? It was a while ago. It was 2013, where, he suspended the guy, the coach was Mike Rice.

He suspended in three games, finding 50,000, and required him to attend anger management, uh, counseling. That was until the video got out. Then he went back, fired him, and he resigned himself. Along with that, he is or was or is the current, um, guy for the AAC, okay, who is now considered a what they call it you got your you got your five you got your um your power five they considered them okay okay okay but he has a strong understanding of i guess television and digital media rights and all that okay and his understanding is so strong that the aAC schools they average

seven to ten million dollars per school all right wow the next one which is a Power 5 school, it's ACC, which is the next closest. They average $30 to $35 million per school with the biggest and best conference being the Big Ten who averaged up to $100 million per school. Yeah, so he has a real great understanding

because he did such a great job where he's at now. Those are the three people running. Obviously, I didn't get picked in. I didn't get put on the board. So, and I understand because it's the good old boys club. What do you think of this, Joe, them reelecting and then the three that they selected for the player reps to vote on because the players don't actually get to vote. What do you think of it? It's the whole thing, Debo, you've been saying that since the D. Smith reset it to allow it that they can basically keep themselves in office.

And they don't have to tell everybody else on the outside what's really. going on. It's going to be a certain amount of people that are making the moves, and inside, they're going to kind of... Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime. 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove.

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Follow Thanks, Dad, with Ego Wodom, and start listening on the free IHeart Radio app today. And to pick, and you can basically pick and choose who is shown and who's delegated and who's up. So until this shit gets switched, it's going to be the same thing in a boys club. Because unless you open it up to the Players' Negotiate, Players Association, to where all of the players can see who's going on. We can be able to validate, like, it's not just 18 people being able to show a couple of people what's going on. The process needs to just be the players because it's the NFLPA Players Association. So until it gets all the way open.

I mean, it used to be like that. I know, but I'm just saying since he changed the joint. But who go change the back? Who's going to give up that power? I'm telling you. Because right now they ain't got to go nowhere to do nothing but to those 11 executive committee. I'm telling you this.

They ain't got to go no. He ain't got to go nowhere to do nothing. That's when I'm telling you. I wasn't as hip to the whole NF, the negotiation joins. This has been from me listening to you. You telling me what's going on. I'm listening. And now I'm like this.

Okay. That's since my man switched it up. So until we can get somebody to switch it back to. the ruling of the NFL players association needs to be run by the NFL players and not in the little association that runs the NFLPA. And until that happens,

the joint's not going to be ran by the players. That's like the people aren't going to be able to run their cells because you won't be able to pick who's running your group, your organization. You know what I'm saying? So until that gets back to the vote of everybody's in, everybody gets a voice, you know what I'm saying, all of the players to where now you're informed.

Now you put your votes in. then it's going to be, they get to decide how it goes, who's picked, who's vetted, you know what I'm saying, and who you're allowed to, who's going to be the NFLPA. So, like, it's an insider joint, and you're saying that the only way it can get changed is somebody got to go in there and do it, but why would they change the way that it is if they are, they got it the way that they wanted. Yeah, Joe, that's why I wasn't on there. They didn't like that I was talking bad about the NFLPA.

I know this. I heard this for sure. 100% true. This ain't no conspiracy theory. They didn't like it. Well, he's talking bad about us, man. We can't put him in there. He's talking bad about us. Yeah, because I want to tear it down and put it back to what it was. That means your jobs, your positions are gone. I would understand that makes sense why you don't want anybody to come here to do that.

And you're the person that got to vote for a loud now. Switching up and be willing to know, end of the day, my job is going to be up for grabs every year too because it's up to the players. We need the players to be wanting the players, people that's going to run it and that's going to do the right job. And hopefully when I'm coming in here, show them what I'm advocating for these guys. So then the players hopefully will revote me because that's what I'm trying to do. It's literally for them. You know what I'm saying? And they have the choice to pick them.

They think somebody else is a better leader for all of these groups that's going to advocate for them, then let that man be the one to run it. And I hope and pray that he does a great job. I was like, I don't want it just to be me because you wanted to be you. I want it to be you because you want to do it the right way and you want it to be for the players for what it is initially built for. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, no, I'm not just saying, Debo, Debo, Debo, Debo. I don't like him because he's talking bad about us.

No. He's talking bad about us. Well, it ain't about you. Not about the players. That's what I'm saying. You're not trying to make it about you. Like, if I was in there, you would be sitting on that same stool because you're talking about giving the players the right, letting the players know what's going on.

Like, no, we're going to keep certain, no, no, not just the, these guys informed. Keep everybody informed so everybody can make the decision for this best for the players. So we can all make this decision, not just, no, no, no, okay, well, I'm doing the best. But if they don't think that they're, I'm doing it. No, that's your job to reach out to these players and make sure that they know what's going on. Because what else are you doing the NFLPA for then? You know what I'm saying? Like, 1,000 percent.

Joe. You know what time it is? It's time for play a fade presented by prize. Yes, baby. You know how it worked? Look, Joe then cooked up a lineup for us. All right. Now, I'm going to either play or fade where Joe got going on.

Joe, give me what you got. Okay. I'm so, I thought I was cooking last time because Cooper Flagg, he kind of let me down. But I had to go back and look at his laws of averages. He's averaging six. rebounds and four assists. So he's going to be around

nine. So I mean, no, six and four. Yeah, six and four. So ten. Ten, he's going to get ten. I'm like him to get his averages. I put over 11 wildness. So I'm going to put under 11 and a half this time. Okay. So you're going to go less. I'm going to go less this time. We got Luca Donchis, 31. I'm loving it. He just hit the game winner. You know what I'm saying? He's averaging probably 30. He had 51 like a couple days ago. So versus Houston, going to be going against Katie and them. I just like him to get 31.

31 over 31. I'm going over. I'm going over. Okay. We're going more. And then we got Victor Wimbanyama. His last four games, he's had like 28, 31, 30, 32, something like that. So I'm liking him to stay on the hot street, liking him to keep his points up.

He's just unbelievable. I love watching him play, and I think he's going to get at least ongoing more than 26.5. Joe, I want to rock. Oh, man, who? I feel like Cooper go. I feel like he'll go out there and he's going to go more. I really feel like he'll go more.

I think he'll be the straw that break the cameras back. But I like everything else. So that's what? I just, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like Cooper will go out there. And I ain't going to lie to you. I hate doing less. I always like more, but after he let me down, then I had to go look, I had to do my research.

I'm like, okay, that was kind of not as educated as I needed to be. So now I felt like I want to educate it myself. You know what I'm saying? Joe, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to play this thing with you because you don't scare me on it, man. I ain't going to lie. You know, the education, you know, law averages and all that good stuff, man. Listen here, download the app today.

use the code Debo Joe to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 line up. That code is Debo Joe. $50 after your first five. Joe, what we got over here what we got the chest, right? We got Coving the Life back.

The homie and V. Yes, yes, yes. She said, with all these great players we have added, my concern now is this coaching staff. We need, everything needs to fit perfect. I'm hoping we keep Fields.

Fields ain't there. But after how he performed with the Jets, by Follusion, what? We ain't got Fields. I don't know what you're talking about. You drinking this morning,

Cub in the life, you're drinking this morning, I don't know what you're talking about right here. We ain't got Phil's, he's gone. We ain't got Phil. He's been here. Yeah, he's been gone. He's been gone. He's been gone.

I ain't got no consideration. over this coaching staff. I like what the coaching staff is. I know who they is. I don't seen them. I don't play with it. I played with a couple of them. Like, we're cooking.

There's no concern there. Same page. No concern there. Yeah. We got cutting their life back again, $10. She said, did James noise just flare up like the James knows just flare up like James every. Hey, I get that all the time.

You do it like you? Hey, they think they think they get. They think me and James Evans is related now. Look here, you know what you're talking about? Yes. You know what I'm talking about? If we got them. Doom to do do do do good times.

Joe, please leave that man alone about your Browns. I believe that they will be better, but not a true contender. Well, not for the Steelers anyway. Facts. Look, they were saying everybody. Contender, no, Joe. Playoffs? No.

Everybody's contenders at the beginning of the scenes. They get into week six and then the Browns ain't no longer. Whatever. You're going to, we will see. We're going to see. We're going to keep track. This year is perfect. Now you want to keep track of something.

No, we keep, we always keep a track. We're going to keep, but look, we want to see. Want to see how the Steelers. We're going to keep track of the Browns. We're going to keep track of the Browns. We kept track of the Browns. We kept track of them getting their facekeeping. And deep.

That's what we kept track up. I just throw this pencil right. You're going to throw it. You're going to throw it to the screen. I'm looking right at you. I'm like, man, this thing is just pissing me, yo. We got Covering the Life back again. Coming to Life.

$20 a time. The viewer said, The viewers said, my homes have it longer than expected recovery. And Fields takes the chief to the suit. to the Super Bowl and other viewers that said they want Rogers to start one or two games

get hurt and let Will take over man Man, man, who would That's, that's That's, that's, Who said that? See, look, all right.

Who said that in the chat? Which one of you, which one of you, which one of you, Dirt Ball said that? You want the man to go two games then get hurt? Rather, rather say than like, yeah, that's preying on his downfall.

That's crazy. He might as well, like, he doesn't play, he's just playing, just not playing bad and gets benched. That's like, and then Will comes in. You know what I'm saying? We got to go to Will. Hey, Roger. Oh, hold up.

Hold up. What we got? Yo, Coving the law, I'm looking at another one right now. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Cover the law said, hey, some, he says some things in the chat that we don't see, one viewer said Watson is the better quarterback and Shador will be benched.

That was $5 from coming like, what do you think of that, Joe? I'm saying, you're saying Deshawn Watson the last time that Deshawn Watson was on the field, I'm saying what's... They're saying that she said that Deshaun Watson is going to be a better quarterback and Shador will get benched.

That's what some... I think it's going to be it. She said somebody in the chat said that, Joe. I heard what the chat saying. It's going to be a fight. And if Deshawn Watson comes out and plays because Deshawn Watson was like league MVP caliber player. So that's not, no disrespect to Shador

if he's not better than Deshawn Watson, if he can return to what he was. But right now, we're going to see. If Deshaun Watson comes back, healthy is able to do what he did, this is not, this is 2026 now. We're no longer in 2021, 2021, 2022, like years on body, you know what I'm saying?

Let's see. He's saying he go, the chat was saying he go out playing in camp and have him sitting on the bench with your boy, Dylan Gabriel. What do you think of that statement? I think that, okay. I don't know. It could happen. I'm like, and we got, look, Deshaunne Watson, there was a reason why he got $245 million

guaranteed. So if he's going to be the start of quarterback, hopefully he goes out. balls out. And if he does it, then I'll be happy because the Browns will be succeeding. You know what I'm saying? I don't want him not to do good. I don't want, I want them to be successful. But I'm just saying, if you were asking me, I thought it was, yes. All right. I understand. I understand, Joe. But look here, Covenant Light came back with a clarification. She said, I wanted them to keep fields. But after seeing how he played with the Jets, by Felicia.

She said I'm drunk laughing. That's covered it like this. She's drunk on laughter. Yes. Okay. Yes. He's drunk on laughter. Hey.

Well, y'all, I feel you. I feel you. Cut of life. We ain't doing no. We're messing with you, baby. Look here, Joe, man. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode in Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe.

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