Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Skattebo's CTE joke , Malik Willis ready to thrive in Miami, Abdul Carter Changes Numbers

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to New York Giants edge changing his number, Cam Skattebo apologizing for making a joke about CTE, Malik Willis on taking the Miami Dolphins QB role, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE 00:00 - Abdul Carter Changes Number09:10 - Malik Willis READY to be QB113:50 - Justin Fields could start for Chiefs19:40 - Cam Skattebo apologizes for CTE joke (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So he is now going to wear number three making the switch after, of course, Russell departed. Yes. Carter went viral for requesting to wear a Giants legend Lawrence Taylor's 56 last season

in which Lawrence Taylor respectfully declined, get another number. I don't care if it's double zero and then make it famous. Yo, you got any issue with guys switching numbers and doing all that other stuff. You know, he had some issues last year. I guess he got benched twice for some disciplinary reasons, missing me, and all that. I don't got a problem with people switching numbers. I don't have a problem with.

My thing is, when you come in, though, I'm not asking nobody for no retired number that's out there already. You know what I'm saying? It's retired for a reason. That man went and did that. Like, that's the greatest of all time. He's greatest. So you go get you, like, you want to go set that legacy, get a number like right on. He got 56, try to get like 55 or you want to step up 157, something in member.

But like, I'm going to make mine mine the way Lawrence Taylor made. him, him. Like, I just, my thought, if I'm coming in, I just got too much respect and you got to, you got to start your own. Like, you are you, you are you. You coming in as a rookie, come set your own legacy, set your own trajectory. You're trying to get on the field, see what the NFL's talking about. Get your feet wet. You know what I'm saying? Like, understanding the game. Like, that's, I feel like that's just putting unneeded pressure on yourself also. Like, you already first round pick. You already got the target on you. Now I'm trying to go get Lawrence Taylor's Joan, like letting him know.

I'm here. It's me. I'm like this. No. Like, you got to kind of like chill a little bit. But for me, for me, for me. My mindset is coming in here, I got to come figure it out myself, get my legacy going, get my feet wet, stand on my own 10. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's just additional pressure is just, I feel, I feel like it's just you didn't need it. It's unwarranted. And then that could just make people look at you like, you already a first round pick. We already know you need to come out here and snap. And now you're saying you're going to come take LTs number out of retirement? Oh, my goodness. Like you, like, I mean, it just, it's just you can't kind of be that good off rip. You can't.

You know what I'm saying? You kind of out kicked your coverage trying to get some. You're putting something on your back that's like, no, I know. You just don't do it. I just wouldn't do it. The extra pressure, ah, it's tough. Yeah, I don't care about the switching of numbers, dude. You know, I don't really care.

it is what it is. Some guys like certain numbers. They feel like, you know, they like it better. They play better. You know, whatever it may be. Joe, I didn't have it luck for Joe. I was, I was 42, 46, I believe 41, 93, and finally 92 after Jason Gilden left. And I didn't pick none of those numbers.

You didn't pick none of those numbers. All those numbers was given to me, okay? I didn't have much. Deep, Bo. A requesting a nut. Joe, I was cut. Debo. Brough.

I was cut up like so much, brother. I could have bled the death and paychecks. Like, they was cut me so much, bro. They was just throwing my man, the jersey. It's crazy. They were dicing. This is, bro. I'm in the 40s.

You know I ain't have a chance. Nick, flop that. Here, take that one. What we got available? Here. What we got available? On. Put this on.

Here, put that on. Put that on. You know, somebody else got that now? Hey, put this one. You know what I'm saying? That nine two stuck, though, Debo, nine two stuck. It hit. It hit.

Man. I ain't going to lie, but I came in that. But look, when I first got the Cleveland, they gave me number five for training camp. And then I had to put on 40. They gave me 40 because I had to try to get a 20 number. All of them was gone. So then I had to go ahead and buy the number. So I had to get number 23.

Yes. Damn, Joe. You was a, this is how crazy that is to me. Joe. You was in the 40s. I had number 4-0 for the first day. That's the first round draft choice. That's crazy. No, no, no. No, that's the thing. It was only for a day.

It was only for a day. You know? It was only for a day because you paid money because you, Joe, big money grip. Oh, geez. Oh, what I was going to take the, everybody here was the older, you know? No, this is, no. And that's why I'm coming in. I got to come in that.

What you mean? Hey, what you need, old man? What you need? OG, what you need. My man, my man, Peyton Hillis, and he came through to a lot. Who did you pay? Who did you pay for that? I had to end up, I paid. Eric, I think I might have paid E. Wright.

And then, how much? It was 20 bands. Woo! 20 bands back, oh, Lord. 20 bands. In 2010, 20 bands, 2010. What are you doing with 20 right now? 20 bad, 2010. But I got that 2, 3. And then my man, Peyton Hillis, they had to do a whole little working around

who got the jerseys. And then Peyton Hillis ended up with number 40. And then he goes, he goes, will cover a madden with that joint. You know the running back from the Brown that was total. The 40 is, that's crazy, brother.

That's crazy, Joe. That's crazy, Joe. You, man, listen, 47, 48, 93. Then I ended up, when you see me in that game, that rookie card, 23.

Okay? Know that. That really wasn't your rookie number, though. And then look, and then, look, They're lucky because when we would have went to the league, you couldn't go single digit until probably a couple years ago. Ooh, would have went five on them, too.

I wanted to go five on them, gave a five at the corner. Ramsey looking sweet, holding it down. But I wanted that. I just wanted to have one NFL jersey, single digit, number five, Hayden on it, looking sweet. Bro, I'd have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to go lie, man. 16 was like my high school in college number. I would have been wearing that 16.

I ain't go a lot to you about a joke. I ended up switching to a single digit number. my senior high school, I switched to a three. Man, I suspended three games too. I was like, yep, nope. When you were younger, Debo, when we play little league, when we play little league, boy, single digits was the most fire players on the team. You had to be a single digit.

If you was number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, you were fire. So me and my brother, we were walking to the game. We would be looking on the, we were looking. You see the single digits on the other team? We was a single digit on our team. We knew who was guarding each other. We knew who's going to be the quarterback, the receivers. Like, the best dudes on the team normally had a single digits.

So that's why we was always trying to rock. One or five or seven. Because when I started younger boy, I was the quarterback. Michael Vic, seven. Yes. Yeah, them single digits, that's your, that's supposed to be your higher tier players. You know what I'm saying? You can't be giving a single digit to the dude that second string.

You can't be doing that. You know what I'm saying? Brother. You got some people that do it, though. It depends on who it is. I got lied to. I got lied to coming out of high school. Florida, they told me I was going to be a single digit.

My rookie year, freshman year, you're going to be a single year, got there 12. God, was super close. Super close. Almost. Almost. You're only three digits away. Freshment year, I started, and then my bubble call, well, ended up getting drafted. I said, Coach Meyer, I'm a freshman All-American.

Give me that five. I need that five. He said, yes, sir, Joe, you get that single year. Boom. Thank you. Sophomore year, I'm not taking this off. I would just, I would wear that little practice jersey around. Yeah.

Y'all see me in this five. Too, man. Hey, Joe, what that face look like when they hand you that 40? Show me the face you made when they hand you that 40, Joe. I didn't even, I didn't even laugh. I was, oh, who? I tried to, I tried to miss it. I was like, I know, who that's not mine?

No, that's not my jersey. But I was like, you know, Joe, for sure we going behind me. I know. someone, hold on. A ducked? I was like, oh, no. That's my job? Hold on.

Hey, hating on the back looking crazy. Big old 40. But then my man, T.J. Ward, ended up rocking the 43, and he looked sweet. Like, I'm like, oh, no, TJ, you're safe. You look sweet. I said, no, but I'm corner. This don't big as heck. Just, this whole, this four, zero.

You don't even look like you got no size in it. Bro, I need to have the four or the zero. Not both of them. Can't give me both, huh? You can't give me both. So, man, the office new quarterback, Malik Willis. I don't know. He felt like he was ready to be a starting quarterback a year or two ago. We got to sign for that. Listen to this.

Did you feel like you were ready for this a year ago or two years ago or you needed the past couple years to get to this point? Sure. I only know until, you know, so I'm grateful for the opportunity now. That's all I can say. I can't say whether I was ready or not. I can't prove that, you know what I mean? That would be just me, being arrogant or prideful, you know. But the opportunity's here now, and I'm going to try to do my best to take advantage of it. How you feel about that response?

You like that response? You don't like that? How you like it, Joe? Man, the dude's super duper humble. I'm just getting, I'm getting dumb, humble vibes. Not, not, I'm getting crazy humble vibes. Like, he's super duper humble. Yes, sir.

I think that I like the way he's just, you know, hindsight, he just doesn't want to start saying stuff. He doesn't want to put his foot. He doesn't want to go try to take somebody's retired number. You know what I'm saying? He's basically going in here like this, look, guys, ready for the opportunity. I can't say what I could have been back in the day. If it's the fifth, we all be drunk.

I'm here right now, signed to the Miami Dolphins, and I'm ready to go. I'm in this position. I'm ready to go forward. Like, let's get it. All that, like, backwards, like stuff that don't really make sense. Like, what, that question? What do you mean? Do you think I was ready?

I could, whatever, but that's back in the day. I'm here right now with the Miami Dolphins, signed, ready to go. And he's not saying, not trying to put any high expectations on itself. I think that it's just, he's ready to go. He knows what he's expected of him. And this is just the guy that's like, I'm not about to have y'all put anything extra. No, that would be me just trying to say something. I'm just going to keep a quiet, keep a humble, where now, oh, man, like, I'm going to just get you guys on my side.

Like, just that's how you start off with the media. I think he's really good media trained, and he's just being a smart dude. I'm just really not going to set the expectations too high. I'm coming out here. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's suicide crisis hubline.

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I have to go work, all that other. If I would just bring that, I'm not. bringing up anything that has nothing to do with the dolphins and be performing right now as the starting quarterback. So I like the way he did that. No question. Joe, I love the response, Joe. I love the response.

Thank you. I'll go, uh, Proverbs 11, too. It said when pride comes, then comes disgrace. But with humility, humility comes wisdom, Joe. And when you look at James 4-6, I like James, okay? And first Peter 5, 5, both of them say, God opposes. it's the proud, but shows favor to the humble. This is a humble man.

This is a wise man, Joe. This is a man with humility. He understands he's not going to let his arrogance and prideful way, get in the way of a response. Like, hey, that would be arrogance and pride for. I love it, Joe. I love it. I love it. You know, especially for him being the next quarterback of the, you know, Miami Dolphins.

hopefully he can turn into that franchise quarterback that they're looking for, you know, and the only thing that's going to determine that is the status of how he plays, how well he does it. Do you think they found their franchise quarterback? Yeah, I mean, the time will tell. Like you said, Tom will tell you only play seven games. If he stays consistent, we'll see.

How good is his line going to be? Is he going to be protected? I don't know. So it just Miami, they got a whole situation. They got to figure out. So I like the offensive coordinators. We'll see if they put them in positions to win. If the running game is good, like it's going to be a lot of moving parts of Miami.

Miami just isn't a right now we just need one piece and we're going to be amazing. I think they have a lot of holes on their team. So it's going to be a building process. But I think he can still be a franchise quarterback. I mean, he can still be. He's a thousand percent. They got a lot of pieces missing over there. Yes, a lot of pieces missing over there, Joe.

But we only got one missing, Joe. Joe, Joe Burrow. We only got one. No. Debo. One, Joe. You and Mr. I just, I can't help it, Joe.

It's not. You don't know one. You know something. You know something. I don't know nothing. I'm just trying to speak it into existence, Joe. All I know is what I want, you know, and, you know, if two come in agreeance, you're in the grance with me?

I am in the grance. Okay. Then it shall be done. It shall be done. It shall be done. The Lord. The Lord said. Do you funny?

I'm just, hey, Joe. I'm with you. I'm just saying, Joe. I just talk when I talk. Let's go on over here to another quarterback that's been to a lot of place. Justin Fields could become the first quarterback to play for four different teams and start week one with a different team. 23, he was with the Bears, 24. He was with the Steelers.

25, the Jets. And this year, if Mahomes isn't back in time, 26 can be the starting fourth year for him with the Kansas City Chiefs. Joe, this is a lot of. It's not a good stat I want to be a part of. I don't know. Lord. Hell, whoa.

Yo, I guess the Jets end up losing $48 million in cap space by letting him go when you add in Aaron Rogers dead money. So this year, they had $104 million a dead money, which is third. heard only of course to Miami and Arizona Tua and Murray killed them boys yeah and then you already did they went in on head

got old Geno Smith who's looking like he'll be the starting quarterback at 3.3 Fields go to Kansas City and get 8 million damn but it looked like bro

oh my this is real is that real is that real? 27 it's looking like they will have 150 million plus in cap space plus three first round picks, bro. 27, 150, three first round picks?

Bro, they can make some moves. Don't go and think, don't do, who, 23 first rounds? I ain't going to say nothing because I don't want them to, I ain't going to say. Joe, how you, how do you feel about Justin Fields being into his fourth team? What do you think the trajectory of his career would be? Right now, I mean, I'm not, I love Justin Fields. Great dude, great person. You're about to say something negative.

That's why he goes with the positive. No, no, no, no. Because no, no, this is what I'm saying. He's going to say something that he don't really want to say, but he's just going to say it. Go ahead. Yeah, it's because this is the fourth team that you're going to be playing on as a starting quarterback. You want to be a starting quarterback. This is the perfect opportunity for,

for you to do it. You're in Kansas City. You know you're not going to be there. You're here for a good time, not a long time. Patrick Mahomes, that's his team in Kansas City. So you want to just be able to go there, show that you're a competent starting quarterback where, you know what I'm saying, it's good. They already have, they have the team, they have Andy Reed, they're the Kansas City Chiefs. If you can come in there and this make it look, make it look good, make it look reasonable, make it just not, don't lose the game. You don't have to go out there and be patching my homes because you're not patching my homes but you can go out there and be sustainable when it's run game you got a new running back making sure that they keep it ahead of the sticks

use your legs when you need to hit the passes when you need to we're not actually to do nothing crazy but just show that it's not your fault you know what I'm saying when you were in chicago when you were with the Steelers the offense just you were looking pretty good with the Steelers it wasn't wasn't bad you know what I'm saying wasn't bad Jets I don't know what I'm too good in 20s In the 2023 when he was with the Bears, and then we ended up picking him up. I thought the move was a little questionable. The reason I thought the move was a little questionable is because in 2023, when he was with the Bears, he made a statement that he's, they're making him think too much. He just want to go out there and play.

That statement right there told me that he doesn't want to read these things where he can't read the defense. And that was something that I was like, I didn't like. and it gave me pause of like, yo, is it a mind thing? Is it a knowledge thing? Because he has the skills to be able to play the position, plus, you know, add a little something else to it, which, you know, which is his legs.

But when he made that statement and just threw it off to like, yo, they're making me think too much. No, you just told me and told him yourself that maybe the game is too hard for you to acquire. Maybe, but you think it might be able to. butter neck. When you say, I can see both ways maybe the way that they were presenting the message. You could be bad coaching.

Like, you guys are telling me, I don't know what your guys are really teaching me. So I'm just looking at it now. You went to the Jets. So you went from the Bears to Stillers. Mm-hmm. And then from the Steelers to the Jets. And we had the same outcomes. I'm saying now he has his last.

That's why I was saying. What I was saying, you got Kansas City with Andy Reed in that offense. So now I'm just looking like. if you're going to do it now, it's not going to where else we're going to go. You went to, but you did. You've done it. You've done your job. You show now that I think it may be back up quarterback.

You know what I'm saying? Like, if you think he's going to be able to take a team to new levels, I don't think so. If he's not going to be able to, like you said, you've only as good as you, what have you done for me lately? Yeah. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because the bears ended up changing quarterbacks before they got Caleb, right? I mean, changing coaches, right? Yeah. Okay.

And then we changed and the jets are the jets. So, I mean, it's a possibility. I'll give him, I'll give me something on that. Mm-hmm. I'll give me something on that. I'll give you some leeway on that, I guess. Got to. I mean, he don't got to, but we'll see.

Yeah, yeah, we'll see for sure. We'll see. 2020. Scatterboot trigger, man. Oh, my goodness. He was asked by. by a host of a show, I guess, Bring the Juice podcast. If he thinks CTE is real, he said no, and it's an excuse.

Wow. Scataboo brought. Then we're presented with the premise that asthma is an excuse. Scatterbu agree. No, that's a good take. He said, yes, asthma is fake too. Your soft. He later issued this apology right here.

He said recently I did an interview and had a lapse in judgment, which resulted in me making a tasteless joke about CTE and asthma. It was never my intention to downplay the seriousness of head injuries or asthma. I sincerely apologize to anyone who was offended by my remarks, and I assure you that I'll be more mindful and respectful going forward. Much love. yeah Joe I thought it was a joke when I first saw it

but I know good and well he didn't write that who wrote that Bia okay I'm just checking because I ain't gonna lie

I was listening to it and I'm like it's gotta be like satire or something right this can't be real like or is CTE

like kicked in like I mean mine kick in some time too you know you know and I got to sit there and I got to think

I'm like yo is that me or is that like arrogance And some pride like dude was saying, you know, like, and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking like, uh, you know what? I told you, I like James, man, I got to go back to James and it sends me back to James and I'm like, yo, James. Listen to the book of James, quick to listen, slow to speak. So I got to slow myself down, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm just glad. He backed off. He came back and apologized. And like, it's not, dude, it's not a joke, you know. somebody got to him obviously and he got a you know he got he got a realization and understanding i mean if you go back i think they did a study in what 2023 where they did 376 uh former players they found that 345 of them had some form of CTE that's 92 percent of the players they found from a

Boston university CTE center uh study they found that you know a lot of lot of a lot of guys had some some form of it. Joe, do you, you worry about CTE, you worry about if you got a little bit? I don't think I don't, I'm kind of. There it is. There it is. There's a CTE.

It kicked in. There it is. So my, I mean, it got to be. It got to be. I think my memory, my long-term memory, for show, is shot. I know that for sure. I don't know. My long-term memory sometimes it's real spotty.

My people, they got to tell me when we did some vacations or whatever. I'm like, I don't did stuff. But I'm like, is it because I done did so much stuff? You done so many, Joe. Having a good time, like, just be blessed. But like, when my friends would remind me of things that we've done, I'm like, okay, I just need a refresher and then I can remember. You remember the time you got stuck in Mexico?

I remember that. Okay, I'm just checking. I'm just checking. You good. That's more short term. That's more short term. That's more short term. But yeah.

But I think that people for sure, CTE is a real thing. People getting hit upside the head dead serious. Debo, it's honestly real for show. And some people have it more than others. It might spike. I don't know too much about how people react and just moves and just feeling in certain type of ways. And it has to be a lot of stuff too with just going to retiring and then not playing. And then just a lot of things, mental health.

to keep your brain active. A lot of stuff, bro. Yeah. I still do a lot of what I guess I would call like brain health type stuff, healing, cognitive repair. Like, it's just all, all kind of stuff like that. And a lot of, I also take like neurotropics, you know, and that's stuff that just helps, you know, your brain function. Memory, mental energy, learning, all that other stuff. You know what I said? I did a lot of that while I played too. So yeah, and I still, you know, I still do a great majority of it now, especially, you know, with all the reports coming out of, you know, the CTE and what levels it is, all that other stuff. So, yeah, this is something that is 100% real, you know, I got to, I got to make sure I'm 100, you know, aware and in play, especially, you know, with my kids, you know, because I can't tell.

you know, sometimes I got to look back. I ain't going to lie, Joe. My long-term memory is trash, too. Oh, for sure. I don't know why, but it's been trash. Brud, they was asking me some questions about something at the Super Bowl. NFL films was asking me questions about, like, something about, like, playing, like, whatever it was, the game against, I want to say it was Greenback. I'm like, dude, I couldn't tell you nothing about, like, the Super Bowl, like, 2011 or anything.

I'm like, bro, I don't know. I don't know what. And actually, Charlie Batch was there. And Charlie's like, oh, yeah, this happened, that happened. And they're like, well, do you remember anything about, you know, sacks on Aaron Roger? I'm like, I don't even think I ever sack. And Charlie's like, yeah, you did. You got a safety on him at home.

I'm like, dude, win. I'm like, when? Like, and I'm on camera, brother. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case.

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Right. He got the memory, man. Like super brand. You know who is actually like super, super, super, super good at that. Like memory, he can take you back to, like, his playing days and sitting in a room with just whatever it may be talking to a guy. Yeah. Who? Who?

Coach Leboe. See, Coach LeBoe's mental capacity, dude, like crazy. Like, this man played back in the day when him. was like, it's the greatest I have ever heard or seen in life, dude. Like, it's, it's wild, like, how well he remembers things. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I seen, like, the one I asked to coach, Sean McVeague, he just be, I know

that man probably got a crazy memory. I know he was reciting plays and stuff all the time. Like, dude, like, Coach the bow down there, how old is he now, almost mid-80s? He's still doing it. Still doing it. I call him right now. He'll be like, hey, Jane, you remember the time. I'm like, damn, I don't remember.

Oh, what you? Yeah, I think I, you know, I got to. I don't remember. You know, I'd be saying that too. You remember? Yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. I don't remember.

And then especially when it's something that's like, like old me. You know what I'm saying? Like the dude they wasn't saved. I'd be like, I did that for real. You sure? Mm-hmm. You tried to actually eliminate that memory yourself. Bro.

Yes, brother. Then you know, you add you might be out there party and, you know, a couple drinks on top of it. You're like, man, I don't know if I did. Mm-hmm. I mighta. I don't know. Dibo. We got in the chat.

What we got in the chat? Super chat. Let's check it up. Take off. All right. Stillers need. Who we got? Liam.

$9.88. $10. Appreciate you. Thank you. Stillers need to pay Chris Boswell. Yes. Pay the man.

Pay the man. That's bankroll boss. Pay the man. So I call them bankroll. Every time they cut my man's pay at one point about a year two ago. I don't know if they cut

bankroll bars. Hey, chat. Didn't they cut my man's paid about a year to ago? Let me know, man. Let me know. I believe they did. I believe they did.

Covered it. I believe it did. Do he, is he on this last year or do he got two years left? Bankroll? Yeah. I think, I think he got a year left. Let me see. Man.

Bankroll balls, but that's what I'm saying. He can't go anywhere, though. We need balls. Oh, no question. Bang Robos. Four years as of, oh, man, it's a 2020. He signed a four year, 20. I think he's going to be, okay, we got him this year.

He's still under contract. This is going to be his last year. Okay. It's a 227 hit be unrestricted free agent. So we got to give him a little something this offseason, a little two-year extension. Two. Brother. Back to the super chat.

They go ream up, man. they're getting right. But I really believe they gave him a little bit of a pay cut like a while ago, man. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. I believe so. I don't know. I could be wrong.

I don't remember the bankroll bars. Hey, like I said, man, my long-tone memory track. That's what I'm saying. You just be making stuff up sometimes. I don't know. I really feel like they made, they had my man take a little cut or something. Man, I swear. I feel like that, dude.

Like, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I could be wrong, man. Covenant like, seven. Oh, well, that's Covenant Life. It's coming to life. It's coming to life. Joe, she's talking about Burrow.

I'm, of course. Joe and the AFC North, the Steelers are the greatest. Joe? No, she's talking to you, Joe. You run that, Joe. Oh, okay. Joe and the F.C. North, the Steelers are the greatest. I'm not trying to be funny, but playing for the Browns,

did you ever see, did you ever say, damn, like Miles Garrett, when being the worst team like the Falcons. Okay. Covered Life. I will always think covered in life that we was going to win. I never went into a season being like, oh, no, we got a terrible team. We always thought we was going to be able to win.

Until we were mathematically eliminated. And then that's when you would be like, damn. We still won't go out here and who. Man, bro. You're like three and eight, and you think y'all got a chance? Brough, we could win? Yes, because we're not getting smacked. We weren't just going out there getting whooped.

We would lose by two, lose by three, flukishly lose. Like, we could win. I'm like, why can't it just, the ball need to fall our way one time? It's not like you're just going out there getting blowed out. So, yes, I did feel like we could win until we were mathematically eliminated. Then people got to looking crazy, and I'm like this. Oh, man. this is not what it's supposed to be.

Okay. Is that good? Okay, Joe. Whatever you say, man. Look here, man. Coming to light back again, $2. $43. Troy Paula Malo.

Best to wear the 40s. Yep. See? You could have, you could have wore a 40 and been okay with it, bro? No, that's a safety. There's no corner that's the... Oh, it's just safety.

That's wearing... Number 40. If you're a safety, then you can wear number 40 and look sweet like Troy Potomalu, like T.J. Ward. But if you're 40 at corner, you look like they're going to be throwing the ball at you a lot and going at your neck. Because they're like, oh, buddy got 40 in the corner. They must have just just threw that to him. Like they gave Debo that 47. They gave me 42, 46, maybe even 48, 93.

Okay. My bad. My bad. My bad. It was never. It was never 40. Never 47. Okay.

Never 47. Okay. I just tried to get you to it. I just tried to get you. That's nasty thing. Yep. That's real disrespectful, Joe. That was just nasty of you right quick, man.

Like, coming to life back. $10. You said I tried not to come back to the super chat, but I had one more question. this for you, Joe. Oh, Lord. She said, Joe, please name all of the Super Bowl wins of the Pittsburgh. Oh, I don't know.

The score and who they played. I don't even know if I could cite that one. Z, that's what I'm saying. Discovery, you came out here crazy. I can tell you the ones we won. You don't know. That was in. That was it.

Detroit. That was against Seattle. So you got Devo flustered. And who was it? Who was it? Oh, the Cardinals. Yeah. I told you, bro.

Remember, Trag. I need, I got to go back in my roller decks and I got to see me playing and look at the team. And what was the score? I couldn't even tell you the score. Definitely. If we won, then that's like you won. I know we lost in 2010, 11. Mm-hmm.

Debo, showing it right now. Showing what, bro? That was a little bit, maybe. Hold up, man. See, now I'm about to go ahead and jump down your neck. I'm going to go ahead and see it. Give it a shot. Come on.

Give it a shot. Who you got? Score. I know they beat the Cardinals. Y'all be the Cardinals. That was my man because I played with San Antonio Holmes. Toes. Hold on.

Hold on. They whip Dallas. Dallas. Dallas? Dallas. Okay. Dallas twice? Maybe.

Dallas three times? I don't know. Wow. Debo, debo, debo. Hold on. I'll tell you a minute. You call yourself. Hold on.

You call yourself. Hold on. Let me tell you. You call yourself. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying? Why don't you just look into history? What's for you?

I'm trying to help you out. No. You got a stumped by the question. They tried to fry me. I'm trying to ask. I'm trying to help you out. No. No.

I need, because how they're going to ask me for a question that you're supposed to be to Mr. Stiller? All the Super Bowl wins of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Nope, no, nope. She tried to put no one on you. I can't even tell you this. Okay, let me get, dang. All right, so now the Vikings,

hey, Cowboys, you write, Cowboys, Cowboys, Rams, Seattle, Arizona. That's only five. Minnesota Vikings, Minnesota Vikings. Okay. Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys. That was twice. Right.

And 76 and 79. Then the Rams and eight. then the Seahawks in 06 and then the Cardinals in 2009. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah, you got it right now. See, okay.

Good Googling. Good Googling, Joe. I had to. Yeah. You couldn't know. You said Dallas. Is it Dallas? I said Dallas in Dallas.

You did do Dallas. You did do Dallas. You did do Dallas twice. You just remember the Seattle, the Seahawks one and Minnesota. Vikings are 75. Yep. So, Debo, I see you got a, yeah, you just show, you just show what was up. Br, you showed what was up, too.

What are you talking about, bro? Wow. Like, listen, Joe, we got somebody that said, what is it? Carl Spackler, 87, this man said, I will sell the naming rights to my first kid if we get your borrow. You said he will sell the naming rights. My boy is selling his whole. Now sell it.

You got to give it away. Give it away. That show me that you don't want nothing from it. But burrow. Dedication. Sacrifice. Show him some dedication to sacrifice. Joe Burrow!

I let you boy. You know what time it is. I let your boy. You're going up there. You talk to Mr. Brown. You let him know. You go on here. give me a call.

Tell me what he said he won't. I jump on down there. We can figure that out. Talk to Omar. Talk to Mike McCarthy. Hey, we get the deal done. Look here. I want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe.

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