Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Super Bowl Trophy at the wedding + Deebo's HILARIOUS airplane story

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Seattle Seahawks DT Byron Murphy II displaying the Super Bowl trophy at his wedding, New Orleans Saints RB Travis Etienne on his ...name pronunciation, Deebo's hilarious airplane story, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE 00:00 - Lombardi Trophy at Byron Murphy II's Wedding05:40 - Travis Etienne Name Pronunciation20:45 - Play or Fade Presented by PrizePicks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime.
Starting point is 00:00:26 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd in 2022.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral.
Starting point is 00:01:23 The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation
Starting point is 00:01:44 with an actress and producer, Jamie Lee Curtis, from routines to recovery, true lies, and a certain Jermaine Jackson music video. Jamie's real and raw. And it's something I really admire about her. I am so happy that I'm the head bitch in charge at 67, that I have the perspective, that I have at my age to really be able to put all of this into context.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Listen to the Questlove show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F1, including the story of the woman who last participated in a Formula One race weekend, the recent uptick in F1 romance novels and plenty of mishap scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brough, the D-Tackle, Brian Murphy, he was walking around with the Lombardi at his wedding, bro. Look at this. Yeah. You're on the right, this party on the left.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. that man got that man walking through full blown trophy Will, did you ever take the Lombardi somewhere crazy? Bro, stop playing with me. You know, good and well,
Starting point is 00:03:26 they ain't let that trophy go nowhere. Okay? The best I got was I was rolling with in the parade. I had it in the parade and I was, you know, I was doing all that right there. You know what, I thought,
Starting point is 00:03:36 think about it. I didn't ask them if I could take it anywhere. You know what? I'm going to have to go down there tomorrow or the day and ask them if I could take it somewhere with me. So, because it's only one real one. And then... Did you ever take yours with you anywhere?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Joe. Deep up. Can you hear me? Joe, is your mic? I think your mic are. Why you hear me? You just blatantly just be trying to... It's not...
Starting point is 00:04:12 You know I don't got no Barty. You know I don't got no Barty. Oh, my question... So, let me ask you this, though. So you got the two Bardi's back there. So you're telling... Those are, they just make the replica body. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Okay. Yeah, that's just something. It's just something. Okay. Okay. Because they know what it is for real, but that's just, you know, okay. Yeah. I'm going to go down there and talk to, talk to Art and Dan.
Starting point is 00:04:40 You're trying to go get the one out the case at the facility? People I can go ahead and talk Art Dan, Omar. Those are the real ones that's at the practice facility? Yes. Those in the cases over there, that's the real ones, bro. Where else you think they're going to be? They ain't about to let them. I was saying if I own the team,
Starting point is 00:05:01 but that's what my team practices. That's the whole thing. Yeah, I might leave them there. I might have them at the crib. I ain't going to lie. Listen, the one's in the stadium. Listen, the ones in the stadium, them replicas. The real ones sitting at the facility
Starting point is 00:05:18 in the south side. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. Okay. Hey, that's it behind guard, lock, gates, all that. You run up in there if you want to. You get popped in them. Run over there if you want to.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Okay, okay. So I would, all you people are thinking when y'all see that in the thing, that's the real thing over there. The real one is at the facility. And y'all, y'all go and plot and playing the parachute in there and do all that. Nope. It's outside. You're wasting.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Wasting your time. Wasting your time. They know. You are wasting your time. Got to be careful. Yo, former offensive lineman Elijah Wilkinson, he had a little tweet. He got in the conversation with a guy, man.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Dude told him. He said, thank God you're gone. And he replied back to him. Good luck with the clown show over there. Yeah, man, you ever had, you, you ever reply to people, bro? Oh, not, not anymore. You used to. Oh, they got you a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And then, like, I did for a second. I did. No, you can't win. That's what I'm telling you. And they would piss me off because then that's when I had to just realize, like, they're just messing with me. Like, I would go smack at somebody. They'd like, oh, my God, he responded.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I was like this, I'm really, you really had me. That's all they looking for is in response. You really had me hot. And then they was like just, oh, my God, you really responded. And when they did that one to me, I said, oh, no. Y'all, reel me in and had me really over here thinking about you. and now you was really just pumped faking me just to be like, oh my God, you really said something like,
Starting point is 00:06:53 what's all, Joe? I'm like this. No, man, forget you. I can't stand you. But here's the crazy thing, though, Joe. He didn't say nothing to the dude. He banged on the organization he left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Like, you just banged on them. They ain't even had nothing to do with it. So that must be really how you feel. That's really how we feel, bro. He said, thank God you gone. Good luck with that. that clown show over there, savage. Like, that's the, I am not responding to nobody.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I ain't go to lie. It used to be times where I would want to respond, but I, I ain't, I ain't responded to nobody. Yeah. Like, I tell you what, I did respond when I went to, when I went to New England, oh, they was going crazy, crazy, ruthlessly, reckless in my DMs, brad.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Because I went to, oh, okay, okay, okay. Right. I'm talking racial slurring me up and down all this other stuff this and that you're man and I you know what I did I took one dude's tweet that said something
Starting point is 00:08:03 and I found a way it wasn't a tweet from a Instagram and I made sure his page was real I took his page and I posted it boom that boy had to delete everything I said I hope your friends know that you be saying this one of me that's like
Starting point is 00:08:16 got him Got he Gotty Got he That's I don't I don't understand that When you do that Oh he deleted his whole page
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah You want to Everything You want some attention I give it to you Listen man Travis A-chan He wanted to tell y'all
Starting point is 00:08:38 How to pronounce his name Listen to this brother So it Growing up it's Travis A-C-N So it'd be like A-C-A-N- And that's how you always said Travis A-C-C-N
Starting point is 00:08:47 When I went to college, I kept telling them my name, like, every day, every day, every day. And after like four weeks, they just couldn't get it. So I'm like, man, it's ETN. Like, how you see it, it's how you said. So, and that's how that became. And it kind of took off because it was easy for the pronouncers to say it. I didn't have to just tell them, I didn't have to correct them every day to say my name. And just when I kind of just started learning more about my last name and how it came about,
Starting point is 00:09:17 and things like that. He just kind of stuck and made sense. But I'm very much open to being Travis A-chan again, just being myself, I don't have to correct people here on how to say my name each and every day. And I kind of love that. And that's just get back to me. Joe, listen, pronounce the man's name, right?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Because I heard you say something about it's A-chan. It's A-chan. Joe. Listen, I'm going to tell you right now, The name pronounced, it ain't even the name pronounced. It's calling me another name. So when I was young, my dad, I don't know why it bothered me so much. He would let people, like, I would hear him call him Jim.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You know, and he'd answer to it. And I had no clue why that had upset me so much, dude. Was it a nickname or nothing? No, dude. It just ran. So they would take James and shorten it to Jim. Okay, so anytime somebody called me Jim, I'm not answering, dude. I wouldn't even turn, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:21 They're trying to like, like, be familiar with you, but they don't even know, like, dude, I don't like Jim. I'm not letting you call me Jim. My name is Jim. My name is Jane. My mama named me James. That's it. All right. I allow, I take it back.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I allow one person. I allow one person to call me Jim. Okay. You know who I'm talking about, too. And it was, it was Dan Rooney, the former ambassador to Ireland. okay and it wasn't like he came in one day and he was like you know jimmy or whatever it just kind of like it kind of built over time you know what i'm saying like it was james at first but as we you know started like like building a relationship like a personal relationship you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:11:06 and it was just like one day and he was like hey jimmy you know i know i know the voice so i hear it and i turn and i look and i'm like hey mr roo's up baby you know what i'm saying bro you're My question was, did you never give him the initial, you didn't tell him that you nickname, that people call you Jim? He never called me Jimmy. When he first called me Jimmy, it was like, boom. So here's what it came down to.
Starting point is 00:11:32 For me, he got a son named Jimmy. So I'm like, we building this relationship. We got a person relationship. Now, this was over years. No, for sure. And then he was like, Jim. I'm like, shit, I'm being like swimming well, you know what I'm saying? We're doing this.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You know what I'm saying? Like, this might be. This, I'm like, pops. Right, this pops. What you're talking about? Bro, hold up. Let me tell you something, bro. Listen, so, Mr. Ruling, like to fly, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:01 He liked to fly his plane, right? So, like I said, as I got knowing, we, you know, we're doing whatever. So I'm like, yo, I want to go flying, right? So. This is your pause. Br, bruh. So everybody is telling me, like, yo, don't go out to fly today. It's windy.
Starting point is 00:12:18 don't go out to fly. I'm like, yo, I don't care what you're saying. You know, I'm going, Mr. Rooney said, we're going to fly. We're going to fly. Brough, what I didn't know is that Mr. Rooney, he was about that life. He was go fly. I'm tough. Bro, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Listen, he had, um, what's sorry, I can't think of her name right now. He had a co-pilot that would fly with him, you know, later on as he started getting, getting older. So she's like, and she's like, and she's like, and she's, She tells me, she's like, James, you don't want to go flying right now. Like, it's real windy, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it was a few other people in there that were like, James, I'm trying to tell you don't want to go flying right now. Mr. Rooney, he flies.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And anything he likes to fly, like, it's going to. I'm like, I ain't here. Mr. Rooney told me we fly, we fly. Hey, Ms. Rooney, listen, Joe, Mr. Rooney said we're going flying, we're going flying. I've been messing with this. I've been, hey, we're going flying. Now, Joe, this was the first.
Starting point is 00:13:17 and the last time I ever flew because bruh when I found out that he was about that life life
Starting point is 00:13:29 like I'm about that life like in the workout like I'm gonna get up at 2 o'clock in the morning because I got to do all this other stuff and then I got to make my workout and do this
Starting point is 00:13:39 he was about flying like anytime Joe so we go and we get in the car as we get in the car we're going there and we go in the plane Now, listen, this is a small brain, Joe. I'm in the back, so it was a two sides.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So the front of the plane facing this way, so them two is sitting here. But I'm sitting in the back here, and you got headphones on so you could talk, right? Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 9-88, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime.
Starting point is 00:14:23 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpbright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun. Tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Termaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Germain was sentenced to 99 years.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth, until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Seasoned, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age? What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wagageddon, change the paddock forever. That day is just seared into my memory. I'm culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman,
Starting point is 00:16:01 and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on No Grip, a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the under-explored pockets of the sport. In each episode, a different guests and I will go deeper into the wacky mishaps, scandals, and sagas, both on the track and far away from it, that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently, I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actress and producer Jamie Lee Curtis ahead of the release of her new thriller series, Scarpetta. I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before. At one point, I shut my laptop down. And we just started chatting as old friends, recent.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Oscar recipient. So we have some commonality there. I predicted that, by the way. And you said these words to me, dust off your mantle. Yes. And I looked at you and I said, what? And you said, dust off your mantle. And then I left and that was it.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to like write you and go, how did you know? Listen to the Questlove show on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines.
Starting point is 00:17:51 It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young.
Starting point is 00:18:12 This is love trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm taking up the whole backseat while they're up there, right? That's it. This is it. That's it, that's it, right? Single, single engine, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So we go, we take off, right? So we take off, everything's good, but it's bumpy, bro. It's bumpy. So we go and we fly around like downtown. He's like, all right, we're going to fly through downtown and we're going to go. He said, we're going to go to LaTroft. We'll land there. And then we'll come back around.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So, all right. So we start going through downtown, bro. It's so bumpy, bro. It's, I mean, the plane is going. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's hitting parrules, too, right, bro? And, bro, and I'm looking. Bro, and I'm looking out.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Like I said, I'm facing backwards, and I'm looking out. And he's like, okay, you know, he's pointing out the buildings, you know, downtown and all that. Brough, I can see the people in their windows, bro. And the plane just, the top. So we circle off from there and we start heading to La Trobe. It's an hour drive to the Trobe, right?
Starting point is 00:19:37 Joe. The headwind was so strong. It took us 45. To fly to La Trobe? Fide to La Trobe the whole time it was doing that. Y'all was on the C.C. That's what I mean. So listen, before we leave, though, before we leave, Joe, he's like, we're going to go fly over the facility. because we're heading that way. I'm like, cool. Now, I don't start praying. I've been praying.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Joe, listen. So I'm scared as a hook in church now, right? So as we're flying over facility, he's like, hey, Jimmy, you see the fields down there? I'm like, I'm looking like, yeah, Mr. Rooney, I see it. He said, can you see it? He turned that motherfucker sideways. Oh, yeah, I see it.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I see it. I see it. Mr. Roon. bruh, oh my God, I'm taking everything not to scream, right, bro? So I'm going, we're going, we start, we start heading out, right? We, Becca, that was her name. We hit a bump so hard. Becca said, woo, I said, oh, shit, we out of it.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Now she's spooked. I said, we out of it. The co-pilot, I spooked. Now I can officially be spooked. Joe, so as we're still going, right? And she's like, it's a, you know, it's a headwinner, it does, it'll take us a while, whatever. So Ina came up with her plan.
Starting point is 00:20:56 When we land, I'm not getting back on this plane. I don't swear, I'm praying so hard. I don't swear to God. I said, God, if you let me live, I said, if you let me live long enough to land in the trope, I said, I swear, I swear, I won't get back on this plane. I said, just let me live longer. Joe, I ain't never prayed so hard. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It was so windy, bro. So what I don't know in here is I'm hearing them talking about something. And then they say, all right, we're on, you know, whatever, whatever. We're going to do a flyover. I said, Mr. Rooney, what's that? What's the flyover? He said, oh, we're just going to fly over to airport. We ain't going to land.
Starting point is 00:21:36 It's too windy. Oh, no. I said, Lord, you're going to take me out. I said, everything I did is coming back to me right now. I said, oh, Lord, I can't even get off the book. I had already swore to God. I said, listen, man, if you let me get on that ground, I already told him. I already had my plan.
Starting point is 00:21:50 We was going to land. And I was going to be like, oh, Mr. Rooney, I'm air sick. man, I don't feel too good. I'm going to have somebody come get me. You go on here and take off. But I didn't get the land on the ground, Joe. We got back there fast, right? So the whole time as we're going back, bro, I am praying.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I am praying so hard, man. I ain't never prayed this hard in my life, Joe. And the plane, like, so now we're going faster, though, because we got the tail win now. And it's do-do-do-d-do-it's faster. Now it ain't the real hard bops. It's hard bops, but they fast, hard bops, right? So we get back. And the whole time I was talking about, yo, I want to go up.
Starting point is 00:22:23 you know, move the plane around, fly a little bit, right? So as we go to land, he's like, hey, hey, Jimmy, you know, you can go up with Becca and, you know, she'll take you around. You can, you know, fly the plane a little bit. And Joe, in my head, it said, God, what did you tell God? I said, I said, I swear to God that I was never getting back on the plane again, getting on this plane. I said, okay, I said, okay, yeah, let's go ahead, let's land, you know, get down on the ground. bro, we got down on the ground and I saw a black cow
Starting point is 00:22:55 that was so far off, it didn't matter. I said, Beck, is that, is that look like a rain cloud? She's like, yeah, it could be. But we could, I said, now, I don't want to take no chances. Because in my, I'm not already swore to God. I'm not getting back on the plane, Joe. Joe, I ain't never prayed so hard in my life, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Bro, this, you see, Mr. Rooney had you up there in the, in the propeller plane. just that's doing what doing see I'm not getting up in that propeller plane
Starting point is 00:23:23 debo before takeoff now but now but now that's a good thing you learn
Starting point is 00:23:30 you learn you learn yeah you learn I swore I swore to God in heaven I said
Starting point is 00:23:36 Lord if you just let me touch the ground I promise you I ain't getting back on this
Starting point is 00:23:40 plan my heart couldn't take it though I ain't I ain't lost so much
Starting point is 00:23:43 when you said when you said y'all went down and didn't land and then got back up, I thought that was just like a first loop, and then you were going to turn back around
Starting point is 00:23:51 and then come down to land. You said y'all went all the way, head or all the way back. He said, fly over. We do. I'd have fainted. I'd have fainted. I'd say, I'd say, what's the fly with Mr. Rooney? He said, we're just going to fly over the airport,
Starting point is 00:24:04 and we're going to head on back. I'm weak. I would have, I'd have just really. Lord Jesus. When all that happens, my goodness, please. I'm going to faint. Listen, I said, I said, I know I said, just let me make it to La Trove, but please let me make it back home.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Let me make it home. Yeah, man, listen, bro. It took everything I had not to cut him off when he was like, hey, Jimmy, you want to go up and fly, you know, fly, you know, I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, let's land, you know. Looking, man, I'm like, I'm going to swear God, I said, but I can't, I can't back out. I said, no, I said, it's a black cloud over there. What is that, Becca? What, oh, yeah. Yeah, hey, Mr. Rune, we ain't go, we ain't go chance to be able to.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Come on, man. Yeah, had Becca up there screaming. Listen, she's happy. She didn't want to get him back in the air either. I was still gas like I wanted to go flying with him. So I would go and I'd be in a facility, you know, all season, whatever. And I said, hey, Mr. Rooney, what you doing, man? When are you going flying again?
Starting point is 00:25:09 I want to go flying with you. Oh, I'm about to go ahead and go flying here, probably in a da-da-da-da. And I'd be like, oh, man, what about six? Six or seven, I ain't done. My time clock go all the way to dark because I know it can fly. Man, what? I'm telling you anything. Repo. I'd be like, man, I'm busy to about six.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Maybe next time. Maybe next time. For sure. Give him back you, man. I was scared to death, man. Man, when you, listen, he was about, he was about that life, man. He was about that flying life. Like, I'm about that gym.
Starting point is 00:25:42 He was about, he was going to fly. If they were going to let him fly, he was going to fly, baby. That's crazy. I'm glad you made it. safely because you know. In planes, that turbulence, then you're in the little plane with the...
Starting point is 00:25:54 Listen, I was going to be a... I was going to be... That plane went down. Did he have... Mr. Rooney went down and a player he had in the plane went with... God. And the cop-tile...
Starting point is 00:26:04 I tell you what? They never forgot about you, bro. Never. Brought of it. Oh, listen, bro. So, Mario Andredi, like the old... He's like, 70 something. I think at the time,
Starting point is 00:26:19 the dad, like, he was, he might have been like 76 or something. Anyway, I was, I did the indie, the,
Starting point is 00:26:28 the, NASDA, the NDA 500, like the Indy 500. Yeah, that's it. It was ending that was 500, right? So I'm in there, dude,
Starting point is 00:26:36 and we are zooming around this track, 190 miles an hour, bro. I'm in that motherfucker like a gorilla in the tricycle, right? They had to scoop me down and that one,
Starting point is 00:26:45 click, right? And that's something. going around it, Joe, this is the sickest thought I ever had in my head. And I'm like, how do I go and just like, had this like be like memory like this? Oh, no. You thought about grabbing the wheel. No, I didn't, Joe. I said, because when you're going around, dude, it feels like you're drifting.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Well, you're actually drifting into it and you get vertigo. I don't know how he didn't get vertical. I was vertigued out. I was vertigo out, dude. And I'm like, you know what? After the second time around, I'm like, I'm like, damn. I'm like, I wonder what it
Starting point is 00:27:20 feel like to hit the wall. And I'm gonna be hitting it with Mario. I'm like, I'm like, let's go on here. Let's go on here and hit the wall. Let's see what, let's see what, let's see what. You said that to him? I wanted to hit the wall with Joe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah. That's that, that's that crazy. That's that crazy. Yeah, I think I was crazy then. That was about, that was thinking I want to hit the wall a little bit. What? I'm like, that was my, maybe about, 12, 15 years ago, I think of it.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I'm like, y'all, like, because I'm in there already, I'm feeling good. I'm like, go ahead, you know, you just drift into the wall. Go ahead, just hit the wall, let me see about the lid, you know what I'm saying? Knock the right tires off and all that, you know what I'm saying? Let me see if my arms could do it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Bro, that's going to make no. That's going to be crazy. And I'm going to be up there with the picture, too. Yeah, Deepo. You're a wild man. You know what I'm saying? You're a wild man. You know what time here, Joe.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It's time for player fair. Presented by Pride. Let's see what you're going to cook though for. To be more careful. Tell me what you got. You're reasoning behind it. And we're going to play a fade this thing. What you got?
Starting point is 00:28:41 I got Lamello Ball over 20 and a half points. So I got him getting 21 at least. Going against Miami. I like him and my man, Hero, to be going back to back. Both of them trying to exchange buckets. Hero's going to get, I know he was going to get his buckets and Lamello not going outside. All right, we got Desmond Bain, Orlando. I just seen, he's averaging around 19 points, but I just seen him the last week go big body on everybody.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So when I saw him on there, I just felt like I needed to pick him. Maybe not the best reason, but I don't know. I just felt that. And then Joker, I mean, he's averaging 26, 27. he's getting at least 12 to 12 rebounds, 12 assist the game. He's easily to do on Philly like 30, 30 and 12. I like Joker. I like Joker over basically every time.
Starting point is 00:29:40 He's probably one of the best, he's probably the best center in the league still for show. Coming off, so many MVP's just you can't go wrong with Joker. Okay, Joe. This is the only issue, though. I ain't the greatest at best. I've heard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I ain't the greatest at basketball, Joe. So I'm going to have to play with you because I'm going to have to go with you on your knowledge because it's far greater than mine. So what y'all need to do is download the app today and use the code, Debo Joe, to get $50 in lineups after you play your first five out of line. Decoeur, Debo, Joe. Let's rock and go. Let's check out the Super Chat.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Covenant Life, of course. No covenant life. always in the building. $10. She said, James Henry, please leave Joe
Starting point is 00:30:37 Bartavius alone about them sorry Browns. I'll just say it's ours. Sorry, as if right now.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Go ahead. Let it finish. Listen, she said, let him live in his dreams and keep hope a lie. Debo is a conversation
Starting point is 00:30:56 away from turning into heart. Yo, listen, I'm going to let you live in your dreams. Keep hope alive, John. As of right now, you know, listen, to win in this NFL, you need a quarterback. Right now, I like our quarter. I mean, I like the Brown's quarterback is a little bit better than the stills quarterback. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:31:17 How would you feel like that? He ain't got a quarterback yet. Oh, you're saying. Just saying right now. So, I mean, I'm liking right now. We can see, we got to see, we got to see what we got to see what Will Howard did, though. I'm saying that's what everybody else is saying. I got to see.
Starting point is 00:31:30 We got to see. You'd be saying our. Our Steelers. And I had to say my Browns because you just, you just blatantly don't rock with them. You said our, our quarterback. And then you said the Browns. My quarterback, Shador, is a little bit better right now than our quarterback. Now it's your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's not the Browns quarterback. Yeah, that's my. That's my. Y'all listening to this, right? Chat, you're listening to this, right? The chat knows, the chat knows, okay? You're just the one that don't, I keep acting like you got amnesia, acting like you don't know what's going on, acting like you don't hear me. Hey, hey, we're going over here to it's C.5.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And you know what? That's a true statement. The Browns can finally get to go to a Super Bowl with the new dome. Wonder who they will be watching those. That's a good one. And so has everybody else. The Cowboys came. Listen, you know the crazy thing is?
Starting point is 00:32:37 You know what? The Vegas Raiders, they went and watched the Super Bowl and they stayed in the last time. You know, teams would be watching the Super Bowl all the time in the stadium. They want laughing at the brand. The Lions built their stadium is the first one they had there. Guess who they was watching?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yep. Us. Pittsburgh Stillers. Winning. You know? Yes. You remember. I remember that game, right.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I'm with you. I'm a view on that one. Yeah. Stadium was nice. The locker room was cool. He was in there smoking cigars. You know, you remember us doing that, right? Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:33:07 You had a good time too. You know, right there, you know, like a cicada just, you know, they go Joe over there. Yeah. Yeah. We got Liam 987, $5. Said, do you think Mount Washington can be used as more of a vertical threat like Gunkowski was?
Starting point is 00:33:26 What do you think, Joe? I mean, yeah, we can send him down the scene. I don't know like Grant's, I don't know how this is speed, and I don't want him to be exposed too much down there with his knees, throwing him down the scene. But, I mean, yes, I think it could be a vertical threat. But I don't know about, like, how Grunk was. Grunk was a little more, I think, a little more, what I say, faster?
Starting point is 00:33:51 I say he was faster. And, like, he, like, I think he was able to use. Like, more, I mean... Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case.
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Starting point is 00:35:59 and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on no grip. a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the under-explored pockets of the sport. In each episode, a different guests and I will go deeper into the wacky mishaps, scandals and sagas, both on the track and far away from it that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently, I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actors and producer Jamie Lee Curtis ahead of the release of her new thriller series, Scarpetta.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before. You know, at one point I shut my laptop down. And we just started chatting as old friends, recent Oscar recipient. So we have some commonality there. I predicted that, by the way. And you said these words to me, dust off your mantle. Yes. And I looked at you and I said, what?
Starting point is 00:37:05 And you said, dust off your mantle. And then I left, and that was it. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to, like, write you and go, how did you know? Listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Neckard, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected.
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Starting point is 00:38:34 He could use it. I don't know, man. We never really tried to like go ahead and get them down the scene, though. I'm not mad at it. Because he's, he's, he got ball skills. He's going to go get the ball. That's for sure. No.
Starting point is 00:38:45 How long it'll take it to get down that seam? I got to throw him on a couple seam routes, see how long it take, and then we'll go from there. But I'm not mad at it at all. Because he's moss and the safeties. I mean, once he get down there, just. Listen, I like the idea of going in there, running the ball, two tights. And then when they go in and stacking that box, then you go ahead and let them two boys remember.
Starting point is 00:39:10 article. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. Coving the Life back again. Coving to Life, you got to get somebody else a chance, Covington Life. Ten hours. She said, James, you're training this lesson, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:39:25 What's one habit? What's one workout or habit that made the biggest difference in your career? What separated you from other linebackers physically and mentally? It's not one thing. It's everything. I don't think a lot of guys say they're willing to like do whatever and go wherever and try whatever and put in work. But very few people actually like go out there and do it. I think I just built a habit.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And my habit just happened to be a good habit of just saying, you know what, I'm going to go do it no matter if I feel good, if I feel bad. It don't matter the work got to get done. And I think over time it just like my daddy he just that was something that was instilled in me from the time I was 12. You know, I started working when I was 12. And that was just I would clean like we would clean carpets, floors, all that shit. And I would be the person that had to get the corners. You know what I'm saying? I'm down there on hand.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It's knees just scrubbing it out. And it was, you know, it was hard work. You know what I'm saying? But that's the work that I know. So it wasn't. it wasn't the issue, man. And then, like, playing linebacker, like, the physicality of it, you just got to be physical.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Like, now, I don't know how physical you got to be anymore. But back then, you had to be extremely feel. You had to be willing to, like, like your boy, Marcian Lynch said, like, I'm willing to go and just bam, bam, bam, slam, over and over, 60, 70, over and over. And I'm going to try and come harder and harder each time. after that to try and put you to sleep. Hey, my goal was to make sure that you didn't finish that game.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I didn't want to injure you. I didn't want you off of the season, but I wanted you to hurt enough to where you couldn't finish that game. And I don't think that mentality is there. Like, that physicality is even, I mean, I don't even know if it's allowed anymore, to be honest with you, you know, without it looking dirty because you've got to hit a guy so low to even be safe so that you don't lose your money. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I think dedication debo is built in you, you know what I'm saying, learned it from your pops, just grind hard work. Yeah, yeah for sure. Coving their light back again, $10, he said. What up? How much of your success came from film study versus natural ability. As a corner, how do you read a wide receiver's body language before the snap? Thank you for responding to my IG. Come on, V.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I got you covered it. But I say at the very beginning when I first got drafted, a lot of that was just straight athletic ability. You don't really know how to study tape. You don't really know how to study film as good. So I would say my later years, I would say probably after a fifth year in the league, when I really know how to study tape good,
Starting point is 00:42:35 being able to know third downs, down the distances, when you're studying your receiver, like knowing his mannerisms, knowing what he likes, what he doesn't like. So I think film study, the earlier that you get on the film study, because that's going to make it a whole lot easier, instead of you being out there as a corner, just lining up versus receiver like it's one-on-ones out there.
Starting point is 00:42:56 You're going to get cooked. If you go out there with a plan, knowing what's going on, being able to come out there, all right, bet, we and man-to-man. Just as soon as you get the call, you're able to know what you got going on, and then being able to be calm enough to look, okay, we got two by two, he's off the ball for my film study, they're going to run this. When you're a rookie, you're just trying to know. what the play is, and if you and your safety
Starting point is 00:43:16 is in the same communication. So it's like taking a whole lot, like, oh, hold, hold on. What's the play? What's to play? All right, bet. When you get to a vet, it's like, it's all right, bet, no to play. Now, let me see what the hell they're about to do. So now, like, it comes with knowing the game, being comfortable, knowing what you got to do, knowing what your teammates got to do, knowing where your help is.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And now you're like, it's all right, bet. I've seen this before so you can relax instead of when you first get out in the league, my rookie year, I couldn't tell you. I'm like man, man, he's not catching the ball. All right, bet. So now I'm like, okay, that's for show. So cover three, okay, bet.
Starting point is 00:43:48 All right, it's cover three. All right, good. Cover two. I got to jam two. I got to make sure I get him side. You know what I'm saying? I got to make sure I'm doing all of my steps. I'm doing my checklist.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like, okay, boom, I'm four and far. Okay, we got a nub tight end. It's so much stuff going through my head just from my plays when you're a young rookie. Then when you start getting older, they call the play. I know, I know that. Okay, boom, I'm going to be here, whatever, whatever. Now you're sitting there literally studying. But what are they coming out in?
Starting point is 00:44:15 What is this formation? Okay, he's two y'all plus split. He's running inside breaking route. All right, now I know this. I'm telling Minka. Minka, okay, this is the one. If he runs a double move, I need you to get my back because I'm jumping this slant.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like, I'm going for broke. All right, guys, I've done my film study. I've done my stuff. If he doesn't do this, I need you. You know what I'm saying? So being able to have that comfortableness and that confidence to know who got your back, who got your help.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Who do I need to talk to if I missed this? That doesn't just come on one day. or like a year. You got to start getting it, start understanding it. And when you're in the defense for a long amount of time, you had the same coach, you had the same people that you're playing with, it just becomes easier and easier
Starting point is 00:44:54 because everybody's doing the same thing. We study in the tape. We know the defense. We don't have to worry about, no, no, no, no. No, we're flowing. Like, breathe, bro. You get a new player in there.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Everybody gets looking all crazy. I'm like, calm down, bro. Calm down. You freaking me out. Like, okay, I know what I'm doing. I know what my dude. over here doing. I know what he's doing over here. Now let me get a little further out.
Starting point is 00:45:16 A little further. What you're already in the back end. I was trying to figure out the back end and the people inside of me. And I'm trying to figure out your stuff. Because now I'm like, once you figure out what everybody's doing, it all makes sense. You know who's supposed to be there. And when it gets to you, now, this is me. I'm supposed to be here. So as you see that ball caught in this.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Everybody knows. That's, where is? And they like this. You better come. That's good. Hey, we get it with Nick, we know it's you. Joe, hold up, man. They're tripping, man.
Starting point is 00:45:50 We got a new show logo, man. Look at this new show logo, man. Jimmy and Joe. No. No, how to Bill Debo. Now the people, the look, the people already just walking up to you. Hey, man, y'all see me in the streets, man. Don't call me, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:46:06 You might get your lips over. That's what I'm saying. Not a people. I'm going to tell you right now, all right? They thought it was friendly. Now he's going to be like, hey, Jimmy. Hey, let go on here, man, go on here. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Joe, I'm going to have to go on here, catch a case to be locked up, man. Just show him I'm saying. You guys to show him I can resort back, Joe. Hey, hold up. Let's look at this right here, though. Now, look in the chat. What we got?
Starting point is 00:46:26 We got a poll now. Which A.F.C. North team, winning a Super Bowl first? 65% stillers. 23% cravings. The Browns actually got 9% in the Bengals. I say because it's, yeah. Because, I mean, history.
Starting point is 00:46:46 History. I ain't going to lie. Yo, they don't even believe in you, Burrow. Burrow. Come on over here. They don't believe in. He keeps getting his leg. They keep on hitting that young man.
Starting point is 00:46:55 They keep on disrespecting. Ravens, I can respect the 23 because they got the quarterback. They got Lamar. And the distillers, hoopers, ballers. We just need one. One. Hey, listen, man, we building everything around that, man. Listen, man, man, I'm trying to tell you, brother, look it, man.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. That's for sure. Yeah. Wanted to happen with T. If it do, because I wanted to happen with our guys with T.J. and Cam,
Starting point is 00:47:22 come on, we got to get, we got to get one. Right. You got to get one for they get one. Got to get one for they get up out of there. Michaela Randall, he is $8.8.4.3.
Starting point is 00:47:32 $5. He said, can we talk about what if Justin Field State of Stiller? He actually did. What if he did stay? That ain't, that ain't going to matter.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I ain't going to lie to you. That wouldn't have did much for us, buddy. You see what we had to get. We had to go and get Aaron Rogers. Without that, if Justin Fields was there last year, man, we would have had our first, well, it wouldn't have been pretty. We would not have been in playoffs. If you think that highly of Justin Fields,
Starting point is 00:48:04 then I'm questioning your knowledge, a game, sir. Yeah, I'm not, I hope he does his thing in Kansas City until Patrick Mahon's comes back and everything works out. He got a nice deal too. So, man, come on. What did you get? I think it was 10.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think it was 10 mil. How many? One? Yeah, I think it was one, yeah, one, one year. Okay, so yeah. 10, 10, something like that. Definitely a good opportunity for him. Right on time. Reality sucks.
Starting point is 00:48:39 $5. Joe, Prime, Joe Hading versus Peezy Jr. With, sorry, with PZ Jr. would fed families for generations.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yes, it would. Yes, sir. Me and Pizzie Jr. Locking that up. And I'm telling you, like what I'm saying, too, he's just being able to now get into his own duffel. He was going off natural athletic ability.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Now things starting to slow. down for my man. He's starting to watch the tape. You don't understand that slow down. They don't understand. It's probably to slow down for him. Like, he's now getting into his own. He's getting comfortable. He walking out that thing, knowing what's up. You know, he's starting to now, no. Okay, I'm playing with the quarterback. I'm trying to show him this, but I'm going to really give him this.
Starting point is 00:49:27 You know what I'm saying? So I think just watching them grow into the position, being able to use his feet. He hasn't been doing no pulling, none of that stuff. Man, I've just been watching the maturation of peas. and that's what happened when I started getting up in my, when I started playing the league, just being able to feel more comfortable, being able to watch more tape,
Starting point is 00:49:46 and then just being able to be better and better. Hey, Michaela Randall, he came back. He said he was, $2. He said he was better than Russ when he came in talking about Justin Fields. Bye. I'm not going to argue.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yes, you can, you can have that. Wait, I'm just. I'm not going to argue. I'm not going to argue that. I'm not going to argue that. It's not a... He definitely wasn't turning over the rocket. He was protecting the rock, but it just was the downfield throws.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Like, I mean, it's still... It's good, but there's them between me and good and, like, is that what we want? You don't know what I'm saying? Like, cool, but, like, no, that's not going to get us where we need to get. We're talking about the next team where we're going to win the Lombardi. I don't think so. You know what I'm saying? And so, like, you can still have, like, it still would be a stepping stone.
Starting point is 00:50:44 We would still be looking from where we're going after Fields. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's kind of what it was that. Right. We would definitely be still looking for a quarterback with Fields was on the team. We'd be in a pickle. Yeah. So, yeah, I ain't going to argue with you on that.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You got a valid, you got validation there. You came back. You came back. Maybe you could talk a little bit of ball now. Maybe you could talk a little bit ball now. Yes, sir. It's about that time, babe. Hey, we want to thank you guys
Starting point is 00:51:13 for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe. Holla at your boys. We will be here again on Friday, same time. St. Patrick's Day, right? St. Patrick's Day, right?
Starting point is 00:51:32 Today is? I think it is. I'm part of Iris. I knew I was feeling something in me. I'm feeling that coming out. I feel like I had to go get some green beer. I got to get some green beer and maybe some green eggs. Some green eggs in hand.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Maybe I'll just die in green. I don't know about that. Hey, what are? They'll catch us on Friday. Same time, same place, brother, D'Bow. And we out. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie
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