Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Terrion Arnold Arrested + Brandon Aiyuk Situation Takes New Turn

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the arrest of Detroit Lions DB Terrion Arnold, Brandon Aiyuk's latest post in an attempt to be released by the San Francisco 49ers, and much m...ore! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Terrion Arnold Arrested11:05 - New Brandon Aiyuk Post22:09 - NCAA Eligibility Rule (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:02 after believing several people had stolen property from an Airbnb he rented, even though the investigators later determined that the victims had nothing to do with the theft, Joe. Ed Boy got three victims over there. All of teenagers were, they still wrong. What was it? 17, 18, no, 18, 19. Like, they, according to police, it was two women who allegedly lured the victims to a temple apartment where the two suspects, where two armed suspects hiding in the closet jumped out and held them at gunpoint, beat them and robbed them.
Starting point is 00:03:45 What? Brug. Investigators said the attack was live streamed to Arnold, who at what? What are you doing who allegedly gave directions through a group chat before arriving at the apartment while the robbery was still underway? Leasey, the victims were later forced into their own vehicles at gunpoint before being released. So, bro. Did you, did you, did you, this happened a while ago? And now they came to God and got him locked up.
Starting point is 00:04:19 They tried not to let him out. You, did you know about, did you, so you read the story? February 8.4. So just the crazy part, Debo, about the situation is, obviously, when you get your Airbnb, he said the Airbnb got robbed and he thought it was the driver, his driver that they was used the whole time. So then they went and set up the driver. So he went like, yeah, went and told the police, da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So he went and did his own investigation. And it's like, I understand when you lost $250,000 worth of jewelry. and you're mad and you're upset, but don't go playing James Bond or detective or monk. You know what I'm saying? Then he did his own detective things when to set these people up.
Starting point is 00:05:02 When it robbed them, they had nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just, you can't do that. So now the driver comes out, it's like, it's not, I just got robbed. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:11 At gunpoint, because they're thinking, no, where's the bread? So the whole situation, Depot, is actually crazy. You know, There are $2,000, they said, in cash and values. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Stolen. Yes. Yes. Right. How in the world? People, I, I, it's, it's crazy. Like, and you get the wrong ones, though. You don't did this to the wrong people that are saying.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yes. Like, you got the, you got the wrong. Because you felt like, set up and went and started doing your own investigation. Listen, law enforcement said none, none of the three victims were actually involved in the Arabian beat that. According to statements from Tampa Police, wow, dude. 18, 19, off in Tampa, I guess. How do you, listen, you up here playing gangster gangs, man, about 250. You tripping, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Call the insurance company, collect the insurance, keep it moving. I'm not saying, you want to do something. Tell the police what happened. Let them figure it out. They might have actually caught the right people. They said they pistol-whipped them boys for two hours straight. Deep. They picked a woman for two hours on live stream, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Huh? And you go do it on live stream? They watch what we want. But you texting and everything. You don't understand about, uh, uh, I'm back and I'm watching the wire again right now. Now he's back in the day. 2000.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Longs. Debo. Hold up, dude. On top of that, the two chicks, I guess, that they had to set them up, they testified in him. They already pled guilty kidnapping conspiracy robbery with a firearm. Do you want to know why?
Starting point is 00:07:22 She really. Debo. Four years. She got four years already. Because the girls were the ones that he, that they hit up allegedly to go over there and set him up to say like, yeah, we're going have a little fun, set up the driver to come over there and have a little grown man time with the girls. And then they was hiding in the closet. Popped out, boom, girl, the dudes with the guns was there. The girls face time, we're like, what do you want from him? And he was like, they ain't saying it. They ain't got it. So that's when he ends up like this. No, I'll be there in a minute. pulls up to the crib.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And then that's when you say he started doing the stuff to the dude in the spot, man, right there. So the girls, when they get caught by the feds, their start instantly, oh, no, he was the one that told us to set up the buddy. You know what I'm saying? They snitching. And then they got them.
Starting point is 00:08:14 They're going to stay there. And now they tell him that he was the main one to do the whole stuff. What are you thinking, even setting that up? up or trying to do that. Like, they're dropping the dime immediately. Listen, Joe, Joe. Joe.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Joe, Joe, it's very, it's very, it's very few people. If, if, if and I was going to do something like this, that I would do it with it. It damn sure ain't going to be a female of random, uh, anything. Like, it go have to be like, I ain't doing it. First of all, first of all, first of all. First of all, we ain't doing it, Debo. Listen, Joe, if I'm going to do anything, I'm just going back, oh me, oh me. This one I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Oh, me doing this solo dolo by myself. Can't nobody tell on me but me. Nobody. The only panic said, yeah. Can't nobody tell on you with me. Can't nobody tell on you but you? Yeah, I'm watching with, you got to watch. I mean, no, see, nope.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Got to watch better shows. You didn't watch the wire. You didn't watchin' Dexter. Like, right. You face the license now. They face the license. They told him he ain't getting,
Starting point is 00:09:34 well, they ain't giving it. They're going back on the 20, what is the 29th or something like that to see if they go actually giving a bail. It's like, yeah, they go, they go review that because they're saying they don't want him to get out because he may threaten witnesses
Starting point is 00:09:48 and pay people to go do stuff and all that. Or they got you dead to rights because you didn't do anything you could. You pistol whipping and everything, man. Like, you came over. You're like, no, the answer wasn't good enough. No, let me go on here. Let me get some of this.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And then had the wrong ones. You ain't even, you ain't even get the ones that got it. They're sitting back right now laughing, joking. Oh, yeah, we still got in here for $2.50. Now he's about to go sit in jail and maybe for the rest of his life. He is facing life. A lot of charges still. Multiple first degree fell in.
Starting point is 00:10:24 counts of kidnapping armed robbery. Dude, that could carry a maximum penalty of life in prison under Florida law, bro. It's not a game, man. Not a game. Really out there, no.
Starting point is 00:10:39 First round draft pick, bro, and now you're about to be sitting there doing life. $14 million contract. You just bought, you just gave up everything for $2.50 of something you could have reported
Starting point is 00:10:51 on an insurance time or to, the police and just said, you know what? Even if I ain't got the insurance, man, hell, they got me. It got me. No, you know for sure he ain't got that shit insured. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:05 It's not, it's not. Look, I ain't got no earrings in right now. You know why? Because I lost them. You know why? Because they fake. I lose stuff. It ain't no need for me to even.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I tell it, listen, man, if you see me with some jury on or anything like that and you want to rob me, go ahead and rob me. I promise you you ain't doing nothing but practicing. I'm a get it to you and let you keep going with it. I ain't even tripping. Yes. I feel you. I feel you, Debo.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I'm in the same boat, man. Life is. But yours is real. I ain't go like you. I've been thinking. I've been thinking some crazy stuff before we got cool. I was thinking about robbing you myself. I ain't obliged you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:11:45 That was before I was, you know what I'm saying? That was like 2017. I was thinking about Robbie then when you first came to and stuff. It wasn't nothing personal. It was just my, you know, that was just my mind. my mentality and you were a brown, you know, you came over all iced out, you know what I'm saying? You driving two, two, three different cars.
Starting point is 00:12:00 They look the same, same car, just a different color. I wanted to take your car too, but then I was, I mean, I was chilling up. I wasn't saying nothing. I wasn't trying to flex. I know you wasn't sharing, but I was looking at you. You were shining. Your ice was in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It was blinded me. I want to get that. I want that. I want that too. I like that too. I ain't go wear it. I'm just going to sell it and get the money for it. I'm going to break it down.
Starting point is 00:12:23 easy. You Billy was trying to take my chain off my neck. I ain't, I ain't going to lie, Joe. I was like, and then I saw you had two of the same cars. You said they ain't, you know, they ain't the same car, but they look like the same part of me. I'm like, he could afford to lose one. One of them was, and I was just go get that and chop that up, take it to the chop shop. One of them was a two-door, the raf, and one of them was a four-door, the ghost.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I'm just saying, Joe, a rave or ghost, two-door, it didn't look like this. It looked like the same car to me. two doors and one half four doors. The front of the back, the front of the back. Why did you have a rake? I don't know what the rake is. Raith. W-R-A-I-T-H.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Rafe. Rafe. Rafe. Roes-R-R-R-R-E-H-R-R-Rose ghost. Ghosts. Only ghosts I know is on Power. Yeah, that's what, man, that's out there playing ghosts. They can't be out.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That's not, that is a, that is a TV. That is a TV. That is a TV show. And then they came with the, then the collab, then the Tyreek. You know what I'm saying? ghost two, then the Tommy. You know what I'm saying? Then the Raising Canaan.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I'm telling you, everybody out here being... I see no Tommy get hooked. I ain't seen no Tommy get, you know what I mean? Like a Tommy. I ain't seen the Tommy get, you know what I'm saying? Tommy, they got his own joint too. Tommy. He got his own joint too, but I ain't seen nobody go out there trying to pull a Tommy yet, though.
Starting point is 00:13:42 These foods want to play ghosts, don't. Got to be more careful. Yo. Hey, Joe's. You got to be more careful. These boy, out of their mind. out of his mind. What is Iyuk doing, man?
Starting point is 00:13:59 He posted a video announcing he's back on tour and that tickets to come see him can be found on the Washington Commander's website. He also posted this video of him in a closet tossing a bunch of money on the ground as another reminder to the 49ers of the money he's made from them, I guess. Joe, Pete game on the video.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yo, bro, why is the closet empty? You know, clothes in there and nothing? Hey, he probably already packed up the movie. That's what, yeah. He just, bro, he throwing all that money on the ground, bro. He throwing all that paper. Hey, do you think he just left it there and left? No, no, definitely didn't leave that after the video.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So what was the point? the thorn it on the ground if you ain't going to just leave it. For this. For this. We're going to talk about it. It's going to look. Oh, for us to talk about it. You're going to go pick your money up, Debo.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He ain't leaving that. You're seeing that's his crib. He's moving out. Did it for the video. And right after that, they're scooping that money right back into that bag. Thousand percent. Yes. I mean, if you're real boss like that, you just leave.
Starting point is 00:15:27 No. That's how. No, sir. No, sir. I wouldn't. I mean, Joe, Joe could do it like that. You know what I'm saying? He got real, real, real millions.
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Starting point is 00:20:28 You don't need to be sitting there flexing 10 bands throwing it on the ground. It's just not... No, Joe, I ain't go lie. That's a little... 10 bands, 20 bands, 30 bands, 100 bands. I think... What are the 100 bands?
Starting point is 00:20:39 That looked like... We're going to throw it at a hundred and a minute. I couldn't, I couldn't zoom in on it. I think it might have been about $250,000. $250,000. Ha. You got, Matt, you got contracts out here for $60 million. You're not going to be in the league for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:20:56 These are just when I'm looking at it now where. Dude, I don't know if he'll be in the league again. This is not going to get him out of there and into somewhere else. This is what I'm trying to say. Right now, it's just getting to the point where it's like, if you're in, if you're in the national. Football League, this is just not something that you would want. This is just not a tension that you want at all.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Like, it just seems like you're not mature. You know what I'm saying? It's giving off immaturity. And that's the thing. Pass. I understand. But I'm saying, maybe a little. Maybe a little like, are you all the way?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Mental awareness week. Because when you start doing things like this, Debo, the thing is when you're in the National Football League that you realize really quickly, they don't need you. They want you. until they don't need you anymore, until your ability is not managing what is going on on the off the field. As soon as that happens, once you start making the $30 million contracts per year,
Starting point is 00:21:51 that kind of starts to happen a little quicker, like, okay, are you really worth the headache? So for me, any football team, they're trying to find reasons not to pay guys. Right. He think he's doing this just to the 49ers. No, bro. There's 31 other teams that are seeing this.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And that's when I'm looking at it now where it's like, I understand where, you don't want to be there with the 49ers, but you're turning off so many other people and owners and teams at the same time. Understand it. You want to go to the commanders. I'm hoping that end of the day,
Starting point is 00:22:22 if it gets out of the situation, you get there, you go ball out. I want the best for you to be able to go play. But when you're from the outside, being retired now, looking in on what's going on, it's like this. Oh, my gosh, this man is really jeopardizing. The money that he had guaranteed with him,
Starting point is 00:22:40 you could be doing things and talking to your agent and there's ways where the team is doing things dirty to you. We know you want to get out of there. But there's certain ways you can do it to protect yourself still, still be getting paid your money. Because at the end of the day, we know it's not going to last forever, making another $24 million that they voided. Like that doesn't hurt you right now.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I'm just looking at like, damn, I know. Once a couple years from now, that's going to hurt. And then even if he goes to the commanders, hopefully we get the contract. But if he doesn't, it has to sign for less. just because of these actions of off the field stuff, of nothing that had to do with his real play. It's like, man, you're jeopardizing so much that you don't really know
Starting point is 00:23:19 because you're mad right now because you're going to get out from the 49ers, but it's making you look kind of crazy. You know what I'm saying? Well, we're like, brother, under your ball or you're good, but the other teams are still looking at this. Hopefully the commanders that you have a relationship with them. So if they do release you, you're thinking, I don't know. I'm just, he's thinking that that's probably going to be the team.
Starting point is 00:23:40 if it's not, you done turned off a lot of people, brother. And I'm like, dang, I don't know if you really understands that part where it's like, the league, they don't need us. You know what I'm saying? They find reasons not to pass. And then all of a sudden, you're just out. And it's good because the league going to keep going. There's going to be draft.
Starting point is 00:24:00 There's going to be other players. They're going to be due. So that's why we always want people to get your bag, get paid, because we don't know how much longer you're going to be in the league. and they're trying to find reasons to not get you paid. Joey Porter Jr. is staying out the way. He's doing everything right. And they're still trying to find a way to pay him,
Starting point is 00:24:17 20 instead of way. He's not getting 30. You know what I'm saying? Where is that? And it's, there's nothing wrong with Joey Porter Jr. He's doing everything right. He's chilling.
Starting point is 00:24:24 He's been model citizens, not late. We hear by how he works. So. But he's already paid. Like you have no, like, dude, you don't want to be there. I understand you don't want to be there. But you're being paid extremely well to not be there. I understand.
Starting point is 00:24:37 the concept. But what I don't think he understands is that what you're putting out there, what you're doing is you're getting paid. You got a bag. But you no longer want to be there or whatever is going on has fallen apart. Now, if that's the case, you have 31 other teams looking at this, including the Washington commanders that are like, okay, if we do pick him up,
Starting point is 00:24:56 who's to say that he doesn't get into this same position with us? And now he's doing it with us. I do not think that he understands the ramifications of what he's doing. And I don't even know, bro, I hate to say it, if he'll have a chance to make up from this,
Starting point is 00:25:16 if he doesn't stop. Like, if he don't stop, never. It's not going to happen. He won't have a chance to get back into the last. The easiest way, the best way is like, I think that he thinks that this is, you got to kind of just disappear. Stay away from the social media.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Stay away. All you got to do is stay away from it. Don't post nothing so nobody doesn't have any. You're giving people, ammunition every day when we go look at my phone. I'm like, oh, it's like my, he's like, yo, you see the brain at you? Drew. I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like, I hope he can be able to get out, but it's not look good. He looks like. And you thinking, like, is helping you a call? But it's like, you got guys that's talking to him. You got guys that are close or whatever it may be that, that are actually talking to him unless he got a whole bunch of yes men and running. But at some point, somebody then came up to you like, bro, come on, man. You got to stop, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It's not, it's not, it's not, you know how that. You know how that is, You know how that is, Dibo. When you got... What about your agent? Like, yo, bro, hey, like, people are talking to him and saying, don't, man, stop.
Starting point is 00:26:16 You're going to, you're going to push people away. Yeah. But you're still doing it. So what does that tell you? Like, it's nobody that is going to take a chance on that, man. Yeah. Like, you are ruining your whole possibility of continuing your career.
Starting point is 00:26:36 career. Like, yeah. We talk about the way the teams want their players to just how you answer media questions. Like, this is when you're in the locker room, you're supposed to answer stuff a certain way, turn it all, like not really supposed to be given things that are going to stir up the media. You know what I'm saying? So just being able to answer questions to the media on some chill, just being able to
Starting point is 00:26:59 handle that is what teams are always like conduct detrimental. mentals, this is not showing that you can be not trusted. Trusted to be able to go out there and answer these questions in a professional way. Say you get to the commanders and you start not feeling good. You start not feeling the vibe. What's you not to do this again? You know what I'm saying? Like it's just that in the mind because teams, they have nothing to go on but what you show
Starting point is 00:27:26 them. And now when we're looking at this, you got paid. It's not like you weren't paid. 30 million dollars a year. They said you weren't showing up to the rehab. have treatment facility. Like, I understand, but there's a professionalism that you have to have from a team that's paying me $30 million.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'm going to just handle it in a way of professionalism to get out. You know what I'm saying? And it just, it could be behind, but this is just so out in the open that it's like, there's ways you go about things. And I would think, like, your agent is not saying to do this. Like when Antonio, my man, like, A.B., these grown men, you're going to post what you want to post. So your agent can tell you about this, whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I'm going to post it. You know what I'm saying? Like you still, you're not with these people 24 hours a day. They understand. These people are grown men. You go around them, they might not, might chill, but they got plenty of time to do whatever they want and they grow. Like you, like you said, you're making $30 million.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You think anybody that picks you up or even if they're even wild enough to take a chance and you think they'll give you anything that's close to $30 million? No. you're lucky you're going to get minimum at best because they're going to be like yeah we need to see if this dude actually go prove that he can actually be accountable and not go and do what he has already done like i just dude i find it hard for anybody for me to believe to anybody any team especially if i'm jim i'm owner that i'm gonna take a chance on on him right now especially after what i've seen over the course of the last you know couple months i'm just going it's going to have to be at a different rate i'm like me man, the price just went down. Like, you think this makes people way down. You know what I'm saying? What you was making? Like, that's just the part
Starting point is 00:29:10 that I don't think that they really understand. So I understand. Get back. Hopefully, you just got a lot of credibility that you got to build up. It takes one second to lose all the credibility that you build up. Doing stuff the right way. Doing stuff the right way. Then you do something.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Turn. Now it's like, oh, man, hold. We got to watch this dude. It takes a long. It takes one second. It's here. Right. And you continue to do it, though. You continue to do it. Like, you know, one week is this. Another week is this.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Like, it's a continuation. And it's like, yo, where do you go from here? I don't see anybody taking a chance on it, man. Pop over here, man. The NCAA Division I cabinet has unanimously voted to approve its age-based eligibility model. Okay. Okay. They say this will grant athletes five years of eligible.
Starting point is 00:30:01 over five seasons, notably eliminating red shirt and waivers, according to the NCAA Division I student athletes will receive five years of eligibility if they enroll in college no later than the academic year following their 19th birthday. Limited exceptions will be granted for factors such as religious missions, military service, and maternity leave. Schools will have flexibility regarding student athletes who have remaining eligibility after the current academic year, at the discretion of each school, these student athletes can either have a age-based model applied to them
Starting point is 00:30:42 or continue to follow the original NCAA eligibility rules. Joseph, do you think this is a good move by the NCAA? I don't know. What do you think about this one, Debo? I'm kind of... Up there. So I think they had to do something, especially once they started, you know, paying players and allowing, you know, the NIL money, you know, it started to get ridiculous with guys getting six in that shit, even seventh years of eligibility based on, you know, you know, becoming, you know, they was just becoming professional student athletes, man, like I was still in that job, you know, and using every position that they could to, you know, get stuff grand. And then once they started doing the court ordered, like going to court and getting court order eligibility extensions, like they was like, yo, we're done fighting these court battles about these rules.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So we're going to cut it clean and dry. This is this is what it is. This is the rules. There's no exceptions other than this exceptions. Hell, college, they're saying, yo, a college for your 18, 17, 18 to 22, 23 year old. Yeah, no for sure. Like, what, what do you expect the 17 or 18 year old kids? kid to do when they get in there and they got to compete against a dude 23, 24, 25 years old.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And he's coming out. And his freshman year, well, his sophomore, well, sorry, his senior year going into his, you know, his freshman year in college. And now he can't even, he can't even get a scholarship, dude. Like all these scholarships now, hell, it's already going to transfers. Now you're letting a guy stand there until he damn there in his mid-30s. Like, these kids ain't going to be able to compete against this. or let alone be able to get a scholarship so that they can get free education at least, you know, do that.
Starting point is 00:32:32 So, I mean, like I said, I understand it. Like they had to do something. It's going to be the same thing when this NLI, how does money go? They go put rules on that too. Believe me, it's coming. Like I said, the downside is that guys who actually get injured and hurt and have legitimate reasons, you know, through that process, they may not get that six year now. Well, not may not. They're not going to get it.
Starting point is 00:32:54 You know what I'm saying? So all that is out the window. And then even for guys that are currently that, you know, they ended up setting it to where now you could do a two years of Juco and then come out and go to college and still have all your eligibility. Well, for guys who are currently doing that or have started to do that and are in that last year, now if they're coming out and they're getting into college and now they're 20, they lost a year already. So now they only get four. So it's going to hurt guys who actually thought they were getting a chance to get an extra two years so that they could beef up and be able to compete against these dudes that are coming in there at 20, 21, 22 years old so that they now leave in school 1718. Now their first year in college is 20. Now they're going to actually be hurt because of the rule.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So, you know, I think it's something that had to be done. It will be the same thing that will happen with the payments of NLI. NIL deals, NIL, sorry, NIL deals and the same thing with how they're paying, you know, college athletes. They're going to put a, you know, some type of stipend on it or a limit like they do a cat. I think this is this, I think this is good. There needs to be rules in place with the NCAA, Debo, like we said. With the NIL coming in, with it being so much money, with finally now players honestly being able to get the paid for their name, image, and likeness, being able to go sign autographs, being able to do the normal see things.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You know what I'm saying? Because it's been so messed up for so long in the NCAA. Now they really just got to start getting this. So when you said, too, with transfer portals, with rules with that, with NIL, being able to set rules for that, with just everything, just trying to get a grip on the NCAA because it's low-key now kind of starting to turn into the Wild Wild West. And until you get rules, until you get certain things that where everybody, like, 27, year old just trying to come back into college because now, oh, they get NIL. So I'm going to go ahead and shoot my shot, see what I can do.
Starting point is 00:35:00 No, college is a business now. It's also like a diminishing your NBA. So now you're going to have real live, legitimate 19-year-old. This is where you're between 19 to 24-year-old, everybody's going to be in there kind of the same age, figuring out what's going on. So I think just with everything with the NCAA, stuff just has to be structured. So it's not like they can just start doing anything. So I think this is just the first thing where you can't be old as hell.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You can't be having seven years. Just keep trying to reclass coming back. Something that has to be structured with 19 years old. Okay, you come into 20. Now you have four years. So then there's legitimate rules to now we can stick to this thing. And now these are the ages of the people that are in college. So I'm rocking with it because you have to get some type of control.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Or everybody's just going to try to find loopholes and try to do stuff to get back to the game. Because the money's coming now. Now you can get paid for playing in college. a business. So when businesses are like, so that's why with the whole NCAA with college basketball, with college football, with them knowing now the money is coming in, it's really a business. It's not, they're not student athletes. They're athletes, you know what I'm saying? They do go to the school, but understand, they are bringing real revenue to these, to these schools. They're making real money. So there's going to be rules on a lot more of these
Starting point is 00:36:14 things coming. So I'm just laying, like, this is just one of the first of many things where the NCAA is just trying to get grip and grasp on what's going on. Yeah. I mean, even right now, already, I guess as soon as this rule went through, it was, close your eyes, and you can hear the entire world come alive. 2026 FIFA World Cup is on, and you can stream it all live on on TSN radio. From the opening kickoff to the final celebration, every match, every moment. Listen to FIFA World Cup on TSN Radio. Gives Canada to the Lift Off!
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Starting point is 00:41:15 or wherever you get your podcast. What, Wednesday? They had 15 basketball players, dude, that filed suit, suing the NCAA for the age model. They filed suit in Cincinnati, dude. Like, already. they're trying to, oh, no, you can't do, no, listen, this is a rule now.
Starting point is 00:41:38 You stuck like Chuck, bro. Like, and that's something else. You heard, I think it was one of the, what was it paternal? One of the, what's his name, basketball dude, basketball coach. He's like, yo, he's like, it's grown men. He's like, I got a team full of 22, 23 year old grown men. They're older than the Spurs. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:56 You know what I'm saying? It's literally a little, a baby NBA. that. Yeah, it's ridiculous, man. I don't, I don't feel like, I don't feel like, you know, you're giving any of these other kids a chance or opportunity, especially if you're letting these dudes play, you know, 25, 20, 20, 20, 24, 26 years old, whatever it is. And, like, especially in basketball, brother, development from, from, you know, being in football, like, it's out of control, man. Like, you're trying to get your 18-year-old son to come in there and he's competing against a guy that's, that's 23 and still got two more years left,
Starting point is 00:42:34 what you think he's going to be able to do? And now that's why you had guys that are like, you know what, okay, this is the new model. I see what they're doing. They're allowing us to get these two years and these guys that took these two years now to go do Jukal or whatever it is. Now they're going to be behind the eight ball and lose that year eligibility because they thought they were, you know, switching over to what the new program was going to be. And they're like, no, brother, it ain't going to be in a new program.
Starting point is 00:42:59 This is what we go do. It's the Wild Wild West over here. The Wild Wild West is about to get shut down. We put in laws in place. We go go make sure that this doesn't happen anymore because you got guys that are trying to be professional coders and athletes. Like, if you go allow me to sit in there and get me, you know, six, seven years of eligibility,
Starting point is 00:43:21 and right now, where they're paying, hell, that could be a whole seven, 15? million dollars somewhere through there? If not more. You know what I'm saying? If not more. And when it comes down to it, they're trying to win college games.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Just because you're a good or a great college athlete and you don't mean it's going to translate to you being won in the NFL. And a lot of these guys know that? They're like, you know what? I'm a great college quarterback. I'm a great college runner. I'm a great college.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I know it's not going to translate. You know what? Let me sit in here a little bit longer get what I can. and go to the next level later. And if I don't make it, I did what I could here. I got what I got. I maxed out here. That way, if I don't make it here,
Starting point is 00:44:09 or they already know, like, yo, it's not, you know, you're not going to be a generational, you know, talent at, at, at the NFL level, you know, to Tibol, coldest quarterback in college football. But when he got to, to the pro, it didn't, it didn't switch over. And if he was getting paid back then, if I was in, man, we. You got that bag. We.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That bag, bro. They was, they was pulling down championships, man. Left right. Brother. It can't, it can't, it can't, it can't, it can't, it can't, it can't get no better than that, man. It can't get no, or worse, however you want to look. The eligibility to tell you, yeah, it's going to be good, though. Seven years, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:55 That's two. long. How do you get seven years? I understand like, you know, being hurt. Again, you know, the COVID, the COVID thing. I mean, I know they gave you a red shirt. It used to be, regular red shirt, it used to be five to play four. When I first came in, it was five to play four. So you got to get a red shirt, but you, that gave you your five to play four. So you come in say you wasn't ready, they red shirt you. You don't lose that year of eligibility. So now they're giving you five to play five.
Starting point is 00:45:32 That's still more than what it was when I came in. Yeah, I messed up mine and, whew, I only got, I got three to play three. I messed up. Dude, I came in as a prop. I messed up my prop. So then I had to get my stuff, my grades and degree progress together for that next year. So I lost my red shirt and a year. So I only got to play three years.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Man. I only played three years. I graduated early, went to Florida, freshman, sophomore, junior year. Out of there. Out of three, D'Bow. You got, you got a year. Don't jump on there and get you a year.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You know, man. You know, you know. Y'all need to help. Y'all need to help. I'm finishing school. I'm gonna finish school at Florida. Probably get a little online vibe. You already go be on campus, man.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You're talking about going on here, jump on the kid. I can't jump on that team, man. I'll go hurt the Gators, have us out there looking crazy. They need me. They got problems. Boy, we're getting bombed up. If I'm out there. Y'all do you got problems, man.
Starting point is 00:46:37 No, man, we're going to get, we back. We're about to get back, right? Listen, bro, I'm telling you right now. Tim Tebow would have been able to get that NIL. You know, Teebo would have made $10 million a year back in the day for show, at least. Oh, easy. My man was out there pushing the four. Taurus.
Starting point is 00:46:57 97, Fort Torres. Tebow was out there, man, just as no drinking. Is that heavier than a ghost? No, it was light. It was light. Or a rain joint. Four doors, though. Look, we got
Starting point is 00:47:11 the same thing, got him from point A to point B. I'm just, I was just asking the question, you know what I'm saying? I was, you know, I was just, I was just wondering if it was, you know, I don't know what the weight is on a on a race through a ghost. You know, I don't, I don't look at that, the LB You don't look at that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You don't worry about how much in the way. You don't even look at the number. That's what they say. Hey, listen, if you got to ask how much of the cost you can't afford, you'll just say, I want a white one and a black. That's nice. Let me take those twice. That's what I.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah. Yeah, see. See, yeah, y'all, y'all see Joe coming through. That's nice. Y'all, that's nice. Let me think twice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah. I'm trying to tell y'all, man. I've been trying to tell y'all, man. He could buy. too called, but he can't get no... Hey, you see my Wi-Fi I was on point today. What did you do?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Man, I called them folks, man. I called them folks up at us. What did they do? Did they come out when they say? They ain't came out, but they're going to be out here. They're going to be out here today after. Oh, today after? Did they tell you, just unplug it from the wall
Starting point is 00:48:20 and plug it back in? They told me to unplug it and they plug it, wait 30 seconds. They did plug it back in. What he told me he counted 30. I said, Mississippi? He was like, yeah, I'm like, dang. All right, I bet.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Listen, Joe, that mansion you got with all them people over there, man. You can't have 30 people on the Wi-Fi at the same time when we do the show, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You got to upgrade your signal. You got to upgrade your service, Joe. I am, bro. You know what I am. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:51 All that great service you got over there, you know what I'm saying? Tang. Telling. Listen, I'm trying to tell you, Joe, I ain't had to do nothing. All I did was go ahead and just said, you know what? Y'all say it don't work right. But I know the numbers may not show it. Like me, Joe, my numbers didn't show it.
Starting point is 00:49:11 They said he's short. They say he's slow. They say, uh-uh. I said, put me on the field and watch me work. That's what you did. That's what I did with this internet. I said, hey, hey, y'all talking about it's slow. It ain't going to work.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Hey, my internet like me, put it on there and let it. Hey. You see, that's a good man. And what they say, once they seen it in action, they said, oh, man. They said, they said, your view is clear than Joe's view. We don't know how it. Because my internet like me, it works. Man, deep up.
Starting point is 00:49:45 You know? I'm just telling you. Listen to this. Did you see Janus go to the heat? Okay. And that's why I'm wrapping my heat jersey right now. Braun because it's not about, it's not, it's really about bronze still. So you switch it whole team. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's always brown. It's always
Starting point is 00:50:05 Braun. It's always Braun no matter what. It's bronze. Just for you right now, Devo, let me show you. It's Bron when he's in the All-Star game. It's Braun when he's in the Olympics. It's Bronn. In the All-Star game in LA. Okay. Okay. Brin In the land You know what I'm saying Snakeskin bra
Starting point is 00:50:30 It's brown Always in the land You know what I'm saying It's brown Rookie Brum Okay God, dog What you do?
Starting point is 00:50:45 You went to that man Tawler's shit And it's Oh, all that much And then it's Big Donald's All-American High School Oh, bra.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Oh, you went and bought all that shit. So just letting you know. Yesterday. Just let you know it's not about the heat. Let me see the tag on the inside of that one. It's not about the heat. It's about the LeBron James. So when I tell you this, I tell you this.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Man, if I had some money, I'd go get me some Jordan stuff too. If I had some. It's about LeBron James. So I say that to say, LeBron James You can stay in L.A. if you want to. You could go to Cleveland if you want to. You can go to Miami if you want to.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Wherever you go, Jody's going. That's all I know. That's all I know. That's the damn show. Because I'm following Braun since high school till now. Braun has been brawning. Like the Brown's been.
Starting point is 00:51:55 No, no. Braun is the good, Braun. The Browns be browning is winning championship. MVP. They're two opposite. They're two opposite. And winning the both points of all time. As good as the Brown is, that's how terrible the Brown is always brawning.
Starting point is 00:52:11 You out here, don't we ever say Braun is browning. I said Browns need to start brawning. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Listen, as good as LeBron is for browning, the browning, the Browns need to start browning. Browns are terrible for browning. That's the level of consistency, but in two opposite spectres. My browns are going to start brawning and wait until it happens. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Oh, my goodness. I'm getting tough. But Browns start brawning. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Stop it. Yeah, Debo, I'm telling you, it's going to happen. So it's not even about to hear you. You talking about me, switching sides.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I love basketball. But I tell you, Braun James. Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan, still rocking, but I'm talking, Brian James is still playing basketball right now. Hey, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to tell Jordan to take away your damn shoes.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I'm calling Michael Jordan. Everybody, put Michael Jordan in here, Texing, put him in the stream. Hey, put him in a stream and tell him, Jordan, oh, oh, um, uh, Joe Hayden, that Jordan post to be representative for your brand. is over here talking about you ain't said. I ain't never said that.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Don't put a word in my mouth there like that. Yeah, he did. Do not. Put it out there. I did never say that. He's tripping. Run the tape back. And y'all put some AI in there on his voice.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I'll never say that. You mess up my Jordan, man, Jordan. Look, I got Jordan tatted. I got Jordan tatted. Michael Jordan. Right here, MJ for the brand. Come on, man. MJ know what, MJ know what.
Starting point is 00:53:52 MJ know what it is on this side. though. I ain't going to say no. I can say no. But we're talking about... Listen here, man. Like I said. I'm all with LeBron James,
Starting point is 00:54:02 a.k. Raleigh, Routley. Come on, you know what time? Yes. The Brian Jay... All that. All that. So I'm just trying to figure out what... Ain't no way.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Your Brown's going to be brown. They go to be brown. They go to be brown. They go to brown. Bron messing around. Brown mess around and go to the heat again. For the L.O. I'm right back.
Starting point is 00:54:22 In South Beach. Turn. Ooh. It was turn in Miami for those four years. Well, I was sad. Hey, man, listen, Brian got to go back to Cleveland. He got to finish it where he started off. Yeah, I'm here for all.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Definitely. Brian got to go back to Cleveland. He got to finish it where he started. I'm in control. Wherever you go, Braun, wherever you go. I'm rocking with the land. I'm working to go to Cleveland. Get one more on the way out.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Go back to the land on the way out. That's crib. feel like going to the way on the land on the way out, my man, I'm going wherever we're going, Brian. You just let me know. You just let me know. Straight up. That's how I'm rocking.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Brown still suck. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to thank you for joining us on this episode of DeBo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Yo, come on, man. We will see you guys on Monday. Appreciate the love, same time, same place. Let's get it.
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