Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Dillon Gabriel's Browns debut, Patriots UPSET Bills, Ravens BLOWN OUT

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a Sunday Night Football as Drake Maye and the New England Patriots upset Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Later, they react to t...he  Baltimore Ravens getting demolished by the Houston Texans, Dillon Gabriel's debut for the Cleveland Browns in a loss to the Minnesota Vikings, and much more from Week 5 of the 2025 NFL season! Timeline:00:00 - Browns fall to Vikings18:00 - Ravens blown out by Texans24:32 - Broncos beat Eagles30:50 - Bengals get smoked by Lions37:20 - Patriots stun Bills45:30 - Cowboys beat Jets53:18 - Titans beat Cardinals (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NIghtcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, lying-ass Joe Hayden. Joe. What up, Debo? You don't lie to me, Joe.
Starting point is 00:00:27 You don't lie to me. Listen, you told the people You know, matter of fact, show him what he told the people Can you show him what he told the people? What I tell him? What I told him he's going to make. I want to play back what they told the people. Are you going to play back?
Starting point is 00:00:44 Can y'all play back with what Joe told the people? Can you please do that? Come on. I don't want to see it. Mm-hmm. How you ain't got it ready. Listen I know what I said
Starting point is 00:01:03 I know what I said I said we was going to win the game That's what I said Yeah so Joe How How was it over there in London That was miserable Hey what happened
Starting point is 00:01:18 Because you know It was early in the morning It's the Browns You know And I don't Really pay much attention Because we're sitting somewhere up here
Starting point is 00:01:30 in the north but go ahead I mean tell me you can give me you know tell me what happened I mean because I heard what I heard you know so no no
Starting point is 00:01:39 let me just give you a little run down and what went down all right first half is the tail of two halves Dylan Gabriel's first start not he was good he was solid he threw a couple errand throws
Starting point is 00:01:51 he did not turn over the ball Hey Joe hey Joe Hey Joe I mean I thought the defense ball Like, I believe Cleveland had a phone recovery in the first quarter, right? We had two. Two. And, and, and, and, and, I think, I think, I think, I think you had a running back that stroked out for like 32 as soon as they got it back and they ended up scoring a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Is that sound, that sound right? That sounds exactly right, Debo. Okay, okay. And then also we had some, we had, my man, Juckins are running back, balled out. He ran for 110 yards. Yeah, he had a thing, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. But then after y'all did that, I heard Minnesota. Wentz kind of just went down the thing and just, you know, he scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It was, and they just tied it up after y'all did that. Is that, that's what, that's what I'm, that's what the world is saying right now. I'm hearing a lot of this. Oh, y'all scored another touchdown right after, oh, nope, looks like a holding penalty. Yep, it looked like that got called back. And called back, we had two holding penalties on that play. Oh. So we ended up getting no points there.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Okay. So, I'm, we got to be a little more. discipline but let's get to the so we little long story short debo fuck on long story short we get we we get the halftime 10-7 we're up you're up we're up our first time going into half time oh yes that bought the defense go hold that i know that for sure that's the first time us going into a half with the lead we haven't been up in the damn half time for any game this season so we're good oh so something happened after halftime i think ritz might have came alive again did he did he did he come alive again getting dried down.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson and Wentz started hooping on us in the second half. They were balling. Jetta was catching passes all over the place, was finding holes in our defense. He was actually sometimes, though, man-in-man. He was making great plays on Greg Newsom, on Denzel Ward. It was man-to-man coverage when he was making the good catches. So, you will stop rolling your damn eye.
Starting point is 00:03:53 My, I got something in my eye. My bad, brother. This is my part, too. So let's go. No, the fourth quarter. we had four possessions, brother, in the fourth quarter, four possessions, one first down. How do you keep putting the defense back in the position, back in the position, back in the position, back in the position? But they tell me that Cleveland went out there, though, and ran the ball down.
Starting point is 00:04:12 They throat lightweight and went up. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then they also got another fumble.
Starting point is 00:04:21 That's the other fumble, right? Yes, Debo. So you got the ball again. What did you do with it? What you do with it? Nothing. Nothing. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Nothing. And I heard Minnesota was trying to help you out, too, by, like, missing a field goal after that. Yes. That's all right. Yes. I didn't watch it. I'm just hearing things.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Like, it's coming to me. They're giving it to me. They bring it. I don't know what it is. You know how sometimes you hear? Anyway, go ahead. All of this is correct, Debo. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So, matter of fact, no, since you, since you're getting all this hearing, so what else did you hear? What else did you hear go down? I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't hear much of anything else. I heard, like, the fourth quarter, like maybe y'all should have did something different there,
Starting point is 00:05:04 but again, I mean, Wentz came alive? You tell me, he drove down there again? Wait, the last drive. They're telling me he drove down there again. It got another touchdown. This, that, that was. The defense didn't hold.
Starting point is 00:05:21 They voted number one, uh, a brown deep didn't hold. What? How many, this one, this one's trying to say. This, this, this, this, this, what I'm trying to say. The Brown's defense, we needed to hold there. There's no reason why we give up 80 yards. We need to stop them, at least give a field goal so we can go to overtime. My man, Denzel, we had to cover two, soft two. He let the receiver, Addison, get an outside release on him
Starting point is 00:05:44 and he hit a whole shot for the touchdown. We cannot have that. We have to keep everybody in front of us. We have to make that play. But my thing is this. Obviously, defense, we had to do better. we cannot let them drive down to score the touchdown. But we have four possessions in the fourth quarter, when we only had one first down. We got to be able to keep drives alive, keep the defense off the field. They keep on balling.
Starting point is 00:06:07 They were out there doing what they had to do, but they didn't make the plays at the end of the game for us to win. So the defense did let us down at that part, but the offense needs to stay on the field a little longer. And in the fourth quarter, you only had one first down. how are you going to win the game with one first down in the fourth quarter the devonthe brown's defense i understand that i'm just saying just hold up one time um uh but i listen it can't be that bad you have a rookie quarterback starting i hear he did
Starting point is 00:06:46 pretty well he did what was necessary and here the guy didn't have any turnovers he actually had a couple touchdowns like what joe tell me tell me what what happened what are you all of his passes look i'm not his stat line is great but he's a rookie now he's a rookie he threw the ball he was doing the same thing a man that y'all had there as the starter was doing without turning the ball over so i mean you can't you can't knock that's that might be the officer coordinator that maybe i don't know maybe you go ahead go ahead i'm just talking i'm not letting you talk Go ahead, John. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You're on mute, buddy. You just like to mime a lot. You don't want people hearing what you're saying. You don't want the people hearing what you're saying because you're muted. I understand. All right, all, all, all. This one's telling you.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Dale and Gabriel, he completed 19 of 33 passes, but 15 of them were two running backs or tight ends. Not knocking them. There's a lot of dink and dunks. Anything that he threw past 10 yards, was a lot of airmail, was a lot of stuff just going, not, just errant passes. So I'm not going to say my man did bad. He threw two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He did not turn over the ball. I mean, he did the same thing, maybe a little better than what, you know, they did against Green Bay. It's just that, you know, the defense was. We want our defense to not give up any points. We haven't scored over 17 points this entire season. So we got to still be able to get some offensive. going defense that you putting it on them every single time it's not like they got to make
Starting point is 00:08:29 place they were actually running the ball on minnesota's front line dude like what are we talking about bro the brown's defense got a hold they did the bro Gabriel did pretty well in his first start I would say brother you he did he did he did he did solid he's going to be good enough to win don't you think he did he did he did play good enough to him he did he did he did he did he did he did, but at the same time, two things could be right. He played good enough to win, but he damn sure could have did better. We could have converted a couple of those third downs to keep the ball out of their hands. And I think it could be some play calling.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It could be, it definitely could be some play calling. And at the same time, too, let me just go to what I think the real thing is. What do you think is? We don't really have, I think ever since this is going to go back to our organization, we ever since we traded for Dachan Watson the draft picks that we gave in up the six draft picks the $230 million that's not on the field like when you're like oh why don't we have another extra wide receiver
Starting point is 00:09:34 because we gave up six draft picks and that's why it's not there so we're still trying that the defense is fighting but at the same time we don't have 230 million and six picks on the team and that's going to set you back so when we look at like the defense is bowling and fighting We need to have better players on the offensive side of the ball. We don't have a receiver right now. Jerry Judy is doing pretty good, but I don't think that's going to shake. So I think it's more of an organizational thing.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I think Dylan Gabriel did do good. He's not, it wasn't his fault that we lost. He played well enough to win. The defense, if we want to be elite and you want to be the defense that we think we are, we got to make those stops. We got to make those plays. But having them always being dependent on the defense is like, that's just tough. And I know it was tough, but if you're going to be on the Browns,
Starting point is 00:10:21 I know that's where they're sitting there. They know that that's what's going to take for us to win. They can't give up nothing. I mean, y'all stuck to what the Browns do. It's okay, man. You got to think about it, dude. With that one, with that loss right there, Browns' quarterbacks are only 17,
Starting point is 00:10:36 and they first started since, like, 97. I mean, it's okay. Like, the longest streak since then was, like, 1950, you know, like something like that, where they had the, I don't know, you know, that's just, I think it's the, listen, do you you like the new quarterback that they got? Do you like him better than Joe? And do you think you may be able to get better from that dude at the three position?
Starting point is 00:11:11 I don't want to start no trouble. I don't, you know. We'll start no trouble yet. This is what I'm going to say. I'm not, Dylan Gabriel did not. not play bad enough that, like, no, he's going to be able to play a couple more weeks. We're going to give him some, we're going to give him his time. They drafted him third round for a reason.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So that's going to be the third. He's the second string quarterback. Now he's in the game. So he didn't play himself out of the starting position and any means necessary. He didn't turn the ball over. He threw two touchdowns. You kept saying he ain't doing enough. You double-talking me, Joe.
Starting point is 00:11:37 No, no, no, no. You said he could have did more. You could have did more, but he didn't put out of the day and start a job. That he ain't do more. He didn't play itself out of the starting position, but he could have did fucking better. That two things could be said at the same time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:55 19 for 33, 190 yards, two touchdowns, zero picks. Not to run away with, you know what I'm saying? Solid. I'm not mad at them, but I'm not like this. Oh, hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about. No. You know what I'm saying? He can do better.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Go back into the tape room. Some of those damn passes over 10 yards that you threw, all of them damn incompletions hit one of them. hit one of them seven routes hit one of them phase there was no phase there was no post only time was when we had that last when we had 22 damn seconds he threw a deep dig fucking 20 yard bump right right in the money where the fuck was that earlier in the game and then the next one he had on the overrout when he couldn't get out of bounds to try to kick the field goal that was the next farthest pass he damn through i'm like where was this the whole damn
Starting point is 00:12:37 game you got 25 seconds and you finally threw two passes over 10 yards completions look good where the fuck was that that's what i'm talking about So he didn't play stuff out of a job. He did solid. But I'm like, Joe, please some of them D-passes and we could be, you know what I'm saying, making something shake.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I understand, Joe. But for someone that is, uh, have two teams, you seem pretty upset. I haven't heard you be this upset about a loss. You know, the Steelers lost when I didn't hear this kind of,
Starting point is 00:13:11 wha, out of you, you know what I'm saying? You know why? You know why? Do you know. Did you mute yourself again? Did you mute yourself again? Why don't keep moving myself?
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm getting so upset. Don't touch the mic, baby. Don't touch the mic. Okay. All right. Go, Debo, listen. It's organizational, which is what pisses me off. When I went over to Pittsburgh, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I just liked the way that they ran their business. I just liked the way that they did it. I felt like everybody was in the joint. You knew what it was. you have, you have, Coach Tomlin was the coach, you've had three different coaches in the last 50 years. The Browns, it's just so much turnaround, it's just so much turnover. And the players, they can't get, you, you don't know when you keep having a new leader
Starting point is 00:14:01 every single year, a new voice, a new this, a new that. There's no real, there's no real leadership. And for me, I feel bad for the fans, because I'm out here in London with 290 fans staying at this same hotel, we're having a good old time, and they just always, they're so supportive of the team when they're shit. And that's what I feel bad for them. You know what I'm saying? With the
Starting point is 00:14:24 Steelers, I already know. They're going to figure it out. Y'all don't go under 800. Y'all going to figure some shit out. Some are going to happen. So if you lose a game, we could talk about it, and I don't really get as mad because Coach T's there. They're going to figure some shit out. The defense is solid. We got the players. We got people in.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Organizationally, they're structured, they're strong, and they're going to be good. You know what it's going to be. I don't know I can't get to smile off my face, Joe. Why don't fuck do we keep finding a way to lose? That's the part that pisses me off. It's like we were up and then everybody and then we just sitting there looking like this. How are we going to fuck this one up?
Starting point is 00:14:58 How are we going to mess this one up? That's what I get up. Yeah, like, hey, I know we're up, but you know, y'all know we're up. But how are we going to get down? How are we going to get down? God, that's not good. That's not a good film, deep.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Out of my ear. Oh, man. So that's why I get so passionate, man, because I feel for the fan base, I feel that they deserve better than what's going on sometimes out on the field. And I don't think that it's the, we could have so many, like, all right, fuck.
Starting point is 00:15:31 We would have kept Baker Mayfield signing for $100 million. Baker Mayfield doing some things, baby. Man, Baker Mayfield's bawling. Speaking of it, what a man? Baker Mayfield just threw for 379 yards. You know what I'm saying? that's a type of offense I like to see that's that's good
Starting point is 00:15:47 he threw my man Dylan threw for 190 and then and Baker threw for 374 so you got a big disparity in experience there too now this one I'm trying to tell you too this one I'm trying to tell you too why didn't we just keep Baker
Starting point is 00:16:01 for the hundred we had another 100 we gave Deshawn 230 we had another 130 million with six fucking draft picks that we could have used and they would have been on the team right now Baker Mayfield
Starting point is 00:16:13 beat Pittsburgh beat us in the playoffs did that not happen and then we got rid of him and then we got Deshawn for 2.30 that we haven't seen we haven't been able to see him play and then we got
Starting point is 00:16:25 for a see all the injuries you know what I'm saying so I mean you can't man listen I understand man I hear you brother but listen listen
Starting point is 00:16:34 I don't think the Steelers wouldn't the Steelers wouldn't have traded for DeShan and game 230 all guaranteed this is true This is true And that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:16:46 There's nothing You can't, you can control What you can control All you're gonna do is be in the locker room Have your teammates in there And you walk in And you're gonna do what you can do But you don't control
Starting point is 00:16:54 Who's your teammates And who brings them in And who signed and who stays That's not out of you That's out of your control All you control is who the fuck Is in there with you And what y'all gonna do
Starting point is 00:17:02 So I just think That they gotta do a better job With that top Let's bring in some good guys And we be solid Yeah, it's okay man Listen The Ravens got the shit
Starting point is 00:17:12 Stumped out them too man i mean you go i mean it was close in the first quarter i think it was you know it was three to seven yeah and from there you know houston just took the game over strow ended up what 23 or 27 for 244 four tugs they rushed for a hundred and sixty seven dude the first half they went five or six on third downs dude the raven's defense dude dude, can't put out a match with a fire hose, dude. They're missing tackles still, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:49 They can't bust a grape in a fruit fight. Like, it's looking bad. It was so bad the announcer for CBS, Ian Eagle, dude, he sounded like he had pity on them. I had no pity for them, man. It ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun, man. And the rabbit got the gun right now on the Ravens, man. The rabbit got the gun right now on the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He's not considering any, you know, any changes to any other staff, you know, none of that. Why you, do you think something should be done? He should change something? Like, what's going on? What do you think? Where's the Ravens answers? Man, it looked bad, Debo. It looked like they didn't have any answer.
Starting point is 00:18:39 They weren't trying to make any tackles. They weren't miscommunication. like C.J. Strout, it looked like he was throwing routes on air. Everything, just completions. Boom, boom, walking it down the field on him. Nick Chub was toting it, like vintage Nick Chub. Like, I just don't, when the dude, like you said, he felt bad for him because he's like this. I mean, it just doesn't look like the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Like, these dudes, like, this is not the defense that I'm used to seeing. Because he was walking through there. Like, every time, like when C.J. Strout, the drive after drive, after drive, it was touchdown into touchdown after touchdown. And they quarterback for the Ravens, too. Like, I mean, he looks out there lost. He looks like he doesn't know left from right. So that's not helping out the situation either.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So you've got an offense that don't look like they know what's going on because Lamar's not in there. And then their running game wasn't getting too active. So here's my thinking on this, all right? Lamar is the answer and the problem for them. because he is such a great player. Now, when you have a player like that, that is that great, and you build the whole office around his talent,
Starting point is 00:19:53 the player that backs him up has to have some sort of skill level or skills to operate in the same manner in which he does. And when you don't have that, and your whole offense is built around a dynamic player, player like Lamar Jackson being able to do the things he does and your backup can do none, this is what you run into offensively with not being able to get anything on the board. Oh, exactly. I think when you have a player at his ability level, like you said, it just, it can disguise a lot of other things.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And then when you have that quarterback that's coming in and he's a stand-up, complete opposite pocket passer than Lamar Jackson, what is he he can't do that he can't be able to extend any plays he can't be able to make anything happen so he's got to be in that thing either handing the ball off to derrick henry or standing back making a five-step drop and hitting it and throwing it on time and that's not the raven's offense so i completely understand what you're saying they're going to have to either try to cater something to him but i'm not switching up my office for buddy because you just got to go get a mobile back up right you have to get someone that is Lamar like and can do the things that's necessary to do that
Starting point is 00:21:09 because he's a quarterback that you're not worried about him running the ball. So when Derek Henry is back there and they hand the ball off, we're not worried about what the quarterback is going to do if he's going to pull it or anything else. So now what do we do? We key in on Henry.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Here first, go in fast as you can. We'll get back up to this slow quarterback. That's not a issue for us. He'll want him to pull it. Please pull it. We're going to put you out the game. Yeah, like, dude, they gave a four.
Starting point is 00:21:37 44 points, which is the most they have ever given up in a home game in John Harbaugh's 18 years coaching. Period, dude. The Ravens are on pace to give up more and, like, shatter the Panthers' 24 record for most points allowed at 534. They're at 35.4 per game right now, bro. Like, I don't understand it, dude. And I understand him not saying, like, I'm not changing. No, no, I don't, I don't think it's coaching, dude. It's the players, right.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It's the players. I understand not changing your de-coordinator. It's too late in the season to do that anyway. But they're missing tackles. They're getting pushed around. They're getting beat. They're getting, they're getting dominated by the other man across the ball. That's just, it's nothing to coach about that.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Like, you got to win your one-on-ones. And they're not doing that for the majority. of the game in anything that they do. I mean, Houston is Houston, but I expected him to do, you know, I expected him to do good, but I didn't expect him to do this well. Hey, shout out to C.J. Straught.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Oh, yeah. He looked at the little athletic. He was hauling ass up the sideline. So, I mean, I think he might have been playing possible. Well, you got to realize something. I think he was playing possible. You're doing this against the 30-second defense. So unless you're the 30-second offense,
Starting point is 00:23:06 it should look different. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, he looked good, though. He looked good. 44 is 44 on anybody. It's 44, but they're going for a record of worst defense in the league. So we're going to see what he do next week. But I'm happy for CJ Stroud.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He looked athletic. He did. Well, you know, like I said, it could have been him joking, not joking, whatever it may be. I don't know too many people. They said he goes as far back as watching, like, like, like pee-wee type stuff games. I'm like high school
Starting point is 00:23:40 or all that. I'm like, I don't even know if I got high school type. I do have high school type. It's on DVD. It's on DVD now. It was on a VHS.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's on DVD now. I don't even know. Dude, they still got DVD player? I don't even know, dude. I don't know. I don't know. You had to put it in the PlayStation. Do the PlayStation still you?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I don't know, I ain't got no games. I'm so, I know they do, they do. I'm so far. You can download them, but yeah, I still used, I still use the disc. Dude, Eagles lost. Eagles lost to the Broncos, bro. They dominated that game for a good three quarters, dude. And then they went and gave it up in the fourth.
Starting point is 00:24:28 What do you think people are doing to try and, uh, this is my, this is my thought. Yeah, tell me what you think about it, Dee. I think they're trying to change up and not run as much to maybe get receivers balls to keep the noise down maybe or whatever, you know, it is that they may be. Because you ran the ball with Seguine all last year, and that got y'all, that got y'all a Super Bowl. Like, that was what y'all did. And now it almost like you're abandoning. And I don't, I just don't, I don't understand it. I know it came out in the, you know, like second half of that game, you know, Denver and they changed up, you know, what they were giving, what they were giving hurts and what they were given the offense.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And, you know, they showed things that looked like they were going to do something that they did. And they'd show, man, it didn't drop out in the zone and all that other stuff. But, you know, at some point, the offense coordinator, you got to adjust to that. Hey, they're doing this. Like, you know, we need. to adjust to their adjustment. And that's my thought. That's my thought on it, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:43 What was the, what did Sequan run for? Dude, I think he only had, at one point in time, dude, I think it was like in the third quarter, dude only had like maybe six carries or something like that. Yeah, that ain't gonna work. You can't detour from what got you there,
Starting point is 00:26:01 especially when you got Sequine Barclay. Yes. That doesn't mean. make that doesn't make any sense i think they might maybe you know how like a j brown trying to get his trying to get his voice out but i think jailant hurts some of them passes that he's throwing the a j brown he just be over throwing my man throwing the joints out of bounds we're looking crazy so i know jay brown and devante smith seemed to uh call out jayln hertz in consecutive weeks about uh about the passing game well i mean it is what it is
Starting point is 00:26:35 I mean, sometimes I've been looking at some of those plays where A.J. Brown is open, like, beating the dude on the deep ball. And he's just overthrowing him by five yards. I'm like, where are you throwing the ball to? Give him a chance. So, like, you know, the receiver, if you throw the ball out of bounds or throw the ball where nobody, I can't even, like, slow down, jump up and make a contest to catch.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Throw me something where I have an opportunity. You know what I'm saying? And these dudes are feeling like, dude, this dude, all cool modi, is out here not getting me the rock and throwing the ball crazy. So I'm not going to just keep sitting here and chilling And then we start messing around and lose the game Because now it was all good, you're undefeated
Starting point is 00:27:11 But then when you start losing and you're looking bad Then it's like, okay, now do y'all hear what I'm saying? Are y'all not looking at these passes that are not in anywhere of my vicinity? You know what I'm saying? So I mean, I think it's good to be able to hold a man accountable. Like, look, if he goes in there and look at that tape, Jaila Hertz, was that pass bad? Like just, yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:27:33 All right, then. Well, let me see you make a better thing. Oh, you know what I think it's just being able to stand on it and be able to be like responsible for your position when when you do bad, be able to say, yes, that's me. I got to make sure this is better. Yeah, I lie, bro. It was six carries for the whole game, 30 yards. God. 30 yards, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Like six carries, 30. It's only six carries, right? So you're telling me that those six carries 30 yards, you're telling me five yards of pop ain't good enough. six carries you cannot even warm yet six carries he's not warm I don't I got to yeah we got to this the offense coordinator right yeah I got to look into that one
Starting point is 00:28:20 that's wild you got to hey Philly go over there looking to your office coordinator that's where y'all go find all your answers and you know I mean players play on the field so I understand you to overthrowing and all the other stuff but maybe, you know, if he didn't have to do that as much, you know, and they were given wider open passes because of the run game was working,
Starting point is 00:28:44 he wouldn't overthrow it in fear of, you know, getting a pick, rather having incompletion than a pick, you know? Yeah, I can see that. The Sequin with six carries is crazy. They got to change that. That just doesn't make any sense. Oh, yeah. I got to let him touch the ball at least, at least 20 times.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That's how I feel. Yes. that's just yeah i didn't i didn't pay you all this money to just have you come over five six care dude i could carry six right now at 47 i curious i like it for six yes six carries for sure that was wild like i don't i don't understand so the bangles listen listen this how i'm trying to tell you why you shouldn't be upset because the bangles lost too so the browns lost loss, the Bengals lost, and the Ravens lost. And the Ravens lost.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Which means we won. You see that? Yep. Yep. Right. You know what, Debo? You know, when we do talk about the Steelers. And we do like to say we a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So I'm saying we, but you sign on real distraught and frustrated. I'm hearing more F bombs than I'm not heard ever, you know? So I just, I don't feel like you giving us because I'm taking you out of the we right now, the same loyalty that you're given the clowns. I mean, the browns. That's disrespectful. Don't call on the clowns.
Starting point is 00:30:11 My braces. My braces is making mess up my word. I'm sorry. Nobody, Bo. But, yeah, I'm distillers. Listen. You want to go to the Steelers? You want to talk about the lines and bangles?
Starting point is 00:30:24 We want to talk about the lines and bangers, man. Okay. You know, you know, I mean, the lines are the lions. it was just a little too much. It was a little too much. Browning. Brownie out there was against the Bengals. Who? Brownie was out there throwing punt balls.
Starting point is 00:30:45 He was throwing the ball to the other team. He picked up and did way better in the fourth. In the fourth quarter, he did good. But at the beginning of that game, come on. You know, you're in that pre-vent. You know, you're not, you know, sat back, you know, all that. You know, that's the only reason why. Do you know what I was surprised, though?
Starting point is 00:31:04 The defense did do better. Yes, they did. Defense did do better. They did. They definitely made a step in the right direction because that offense is a great offense to go against, man. With the running game, with golf, with some Amara, like that's a squad.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That's a team. That's a full team that you're going against. So then being able to have all them damn turnovers and putting in positions. Got them jumping out there, putting fires out. You got three hits. It could have been ugly than that. He basically hits.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Well, you might as well say two quarters because he got the third pit as soon as the second player of the second half. Yes. I mean, yeah, he is not, you know what? You know what?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Listen, Russ can't do no worse. They need to go on here and see if the Giants to give up Russ. Oh, for sure. They didn't do something. Something got to happen. something got to give
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'm not going to lie I hope they keep brown that's in there for the sake of the Steelers and for the stake of the Browns keep browning in there and keep having him throw the ball to the other team and this is going to be perfect for us
Starting point is 00:32:12 because they that's what hey but I kind of you know I don't want to go in there and have competition you know what I'm saying I want to see a good game I don't want to go in there
Starting point is 00:32:23 and see the Steelers score 50 you know TJ get 10 and sacks and, you know, 18 turnovers and all, you know, I don't want to see that. You know, that's just, that's just boring, you know? And then that's, you know, that's like, it's like beating a dead horse, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You want to beat them at the top of the game.
Starting point is 00:32:43 You want to take, you want to beat them at the top. I ain't going to say all that. They can keep Burrow up out of there. I ain't going to have all right. You see, that tells you how good Burrow is. Look what they got right now. Look what they're doing right now. Look what he's done.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Hey, Burrow, you might want to get up out of there, baby, after your toe get right. You might want to see. I think they're going to waste you over there. I don't know. They ain't going to let him go nowhere. I don't know. Did they sign him yet?
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't know. I got to look at the contract. That man, yeah. The man Joe Burrow. Is it the stipulation in there? How much is the guarantee? Yeah, it could be getting close to up. But, you know, they're going to keep that man.
Starting point is 00:33:19 He probably making, what, like, 50 a year? I think he's probably around 50. Like, yeah. I don't, yeah, listen, the only thing that may worry me is that they did play well, the defense played well. Now, Lions is number six offense. They did that well against them. I wouldn't say that well. They just didn't do as trash as they usually do.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Okay. When it came time to actually like stop, they did stop them sometimes. But it seemed like when the Lions was like, yo, we got to get. something, they're getting too close. They went on head, drove down the field and got a touchdown or whatever it may be that they needed to. So, I just don't want anybody else in the North improving too much on any side of the ball, you know, because I'm selfish.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I respect that. But Gibbs and the Lions is a really, really good team, man. Oh, yeah. Them running backs, bro, they, what was the, he set a record for scoring, two running backs scoring each in the game, like 14. They scored, both of them scored. the game 14 times and I think that's a record for two running backs on the same team scoring in the same game that many times so they just they still they balling and I love the way they
Starting point is 00:34:38 they support each other you know what I'm saying thunder and lightning so I think they got a they got a really good thing going on their side for show oh no question dude like that that first week you know that that that that was that they needed to get bumped on the head to go on here and wake up mm-hmm you know like they they looking like the old the old lions, you know, that had been, we had been seeing the last couple of years. Yeah, for sure. It's a long season, too.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So, you know, that first game, like you said, they got spanked up. We didn't know what was happening. But you can't just start being like, oh, no, the lions are all messed up. We don't know what's got. No, no, no, no, no. Let them get into it.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Let them start getting their footing, right? Like, it's a long season. And now we're going in the week six. So now you're starting to really see kind of teams starting to come into what they're going to be. Yeah. And it don't hurt, like you said, go against the Bungles. I mean, the Bengals, I don't know my braces
Starting point is 00:35:31 is praising up against my lip like that. You're so disrespectful. No, my lip, dude. I'm just, what's disrespect? You want to know what's disrespectful? What? The Bengals been outscored the last three games, 113 to 37, okay?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Like, that's disrespectful. The man done through three picks that game. On top of that, he then threw eight interceptions in the last four. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. that's disrespectful that is disrespectful that's bad ball that's bad ball debo like if i'm joe burrow y'all want me to come out here and do this y'all got to re-up y'all got to double my pay because i got to
Starting point is 00:36:10 get injury i got to get injury pay because i know i'm gonna get i'm gonna get hit from every side like i'm gonna have to mess around and get a back of yotomy you know tackle ain't tackling ain't protecting my backside or something, you know, I don't, I don't know, man. But they need to get some line. Because if they're going to keep Burrow back there, every time he keep getting hit, he keep getting hurt, I mean, you got to protect them. And then they still got Chase and they sign Higgins. So the openness aside, I think it's going to, they're going to be explosive.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Defense, like you said, they look like they look like they're playing a little bit better. But I think the main thing today we need to do is just get stouty up that line. Because the receivers, man, Jamar Chase, Higgins, ballers. Like, they have, they had the skill. skill players to do it. I just think that you got to keep Joe Burrow upright. Yeah, you got to, man. You got, if you don't do that, you only got a chance, man.
Starting point is 00:37:01 But the Patriots went on head out there and stunned them boys over there in Buffalo, 23 to 20. Yes, yes. Defense. Defense, turnovers, dude. Turnovers. It's a big thing.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yes, buddy. Turning the ball of the bills, man. That's how the bill's. killed herself with the turnovers, bro. Yeah, so I guess the bills had an NFL record, 26 game streak without losing the turnover battle broken when they turned the ball over. Was it four times? Four times?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Or was it three, three or four? One or the other, dude. It wasn't a, hey, listen, they got a quarterback over there, dude. They actually got a quarterback over there. Oh, May. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yeah. May doing this thing, though, real talk. Buffalo had two fumbles in that first quarter a bunch of penalties like they had, I believe they had
Starting point is 00:38:02 twice as many penalties at halftime than they had points. You know what I'm saying? Like, New England's defense, dude, they played well. They did good, even though they had a few injuries too.
Starting point is 00:38:15 They had a few injuries. They had four takeaways, bro. May, may look good, dude. Like, he was, passing the rock he was using his feet to get things going, putting his head down, going ahead and
Starting point is 00:38:28 doing what he had to do to try and get what he needed to. He ended up 22 or 30 for 273 and you know that boy Diggs went loose on him. Man. Loose on him, boy. 10 for 146. On his old team, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Came back with like, I got something for y'all last. Y'all thought I wasn't good enough no more. Y'all ain't want me here? No, that ain't. I didn't want me. You know, they said he had some growing up, some growing up to do. I guess he was a problem. I guess that was the report from near and, what was it, Minnesota. And then when he got to Houston, it was totally different.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I think everybody has points in times where they need to mature or grow up. Prime example, like we got rid of receiver now playing for. A George. Dallas. Yeah, we got rid of pickings, right? So everybody was like, why would they do that? Yeah, duh, his play was not the issue. They were unsure of his maturity.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Like, you may have to hit a spot here or there or have something happen before you're able to, you know, mature into, you know, the person that you may become, you know, later on in your career. Just as Diggs is saying, like, yeah, I'm a lot more mature. They're saying he's a leader, he's vocal, he's pot. Like, that was something that he had to, you know, he had to mature into.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Now, if say he had stayed in Buffalo and, and continued the same thing and they did what was ever necessary to keep him, he's not going to mature because you're saying your behavior that you're doing is going to achieve the goal that you want. And that's how players become, okay, it was a little bit of an issue to it's a lot of an issue to now you can't control the issue and you have to get rid of. them because you fought so long to try and keep them there that they were determined that you know what the behavior i'm doing is what's going to get me what i want instead of being like yeah it's not going to work we're going to move you well it's not going to work we're going to move you
Starting point is 00:40:35 okay so i guess the problem is not the teams i was on the problem is me and it takes some self-awareness to realize that that's what it is and that's what happens and maybe right now pictures is over there doesn't realize like you know what i need to do something to to you know grow up you ain't hearing nothing about anything that's you know going on on the field off the field whatever it may be so you know it could be it could be one of those situations no no no for sure for sure i mean i can definitely i could definitely see what you're saying because you know people you don't when you first get in too you never know like the the business of the league you know what i'm saying you just think you out there playing football and all that stuff but getting cut getting released
Starting point is 00:41:16 getting traded to another team with changes perspective real fast and understand like okay like i'm might have to, I might, I might, I might have went about some things differently and this game could be taken away from me. So I got to kind of mature in a little bit and maybe I can handle things a little bit better. So I definitely, definitely understand where you're coming from there because dudes come in, 21 years old. You're a kid at the beginning and then you start seeing, you play a little bit. You see some other dudes. You're talking to him about situations and then you can, you know, learning experience. You can't just get learning experience without living through it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:41:51 If I would have listened to everything I was told when I was young and actually took that advice and used it instead of having to go through the process of, you know what, let me be hard-headed and find out myself. I'd be a whole lot further in life. I think all of us. Everybody would. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:08 So, Biggs over there now, doing this thing, grinding it out. Like, he's the, from what they're saying, he's the perfect, you know, he's the perfect player. He's the perfect teammate, you know. and he's the guy that is vocal, a leader over there. And I'm liking it. I'm liking it over there. I mean, we whip them, you know, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, we are the stillers, though.
Starting point is 00:42:32 So that does, that don't, you know, that don't matter. But, you know, Buffalo did help them a lot with, you know, with penalties, with turnovers. And you look at it, I think Buffalo had more yards than them, had more first downs and them. I think they even had more plays to them. But the killers, they also had more penalties. and more turnovers and you know
Starting point is 00:42:53 they said they're not well I guess it was a thing that came out where they were saying you know they're not worried or stressed about I wouldn't either because you basically you self-mutilated yourself y'all killed yourself and turnovers
Starting point is 00:43:07 understandable I can see that but still somebody out there and get those turnovers and force those turnovers and recover those turnovers and put those points up, and that was, you know, that was Drake in them, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yes. Yes. And at the end of the day, too, when they was driving it down, they got the defense got that stop, and they kicked the field goal to tie the game. When Drake got that ball back and was able to march the joint all the way down with him and Diggs and then getting escaping from the sack,
Starting point is 00:43:44 like being able to make a great. He is making throws, full stride, half stride, long down the field, on the money. On the money. And no position other than what his player could catch it. Dude, that is scary. He went and won the game. Their defense put them in positions to be able to get into that position.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And then he went and won that game, man. So he was just able to, like you said, making great down the field throws when you need it most. Because games have ebbs and flows. It's going to be first quarter, second quarter, turn over here, whatever, whatever. What's happening in the fourth? Can we win the game? Is it still close? Because everything else is all that.
Starting point is 00:44:23 We can figure it out like there's fluff. But now when it's time to the nitty gritty, coach, what are we doing? Are we going to score or are we not? You know what I'm saying? And being able to walk out of that stadium in the fourth. So it just means so much more because you can go into that now and like, that's, that's good, guys. You know what I'm saying? Like we can get, we can play the bills tight defense, balled out.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And then we got to get into May's hands, him and Diggs brought it down for us to get the win. So I think it just brings some confidence in the whole team. Like, all this other shit to happen, whatever, we can deal with it. But when they got down to the nitty gritty and we needed to score or get down to the field goal range, run out of the clock, whatever it may be, may did it for us. And we won that game. So that's a positive for them for sure. Yeah, buddy, the Cowboys, they beat the Jets, 3722. It was chance.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Chance of MVP. It's week five. That press guy, he said he heard it. His words was, it's week five, I don't care. What do you take of that? How, how, how, you like that response? Yeah, I mean, I do. I love it.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I do. I don't even like the Cowboys. You know what? I feel like at the end of the day, that, you, they're going to talk about the Cowboys all the time. No matter what, man. No matter what. I ain't going to lie. He's putting up numbers.
Starting point is 00:45:45 He's doing all that right now. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. Yeah. No, no, for sure. And I'm not, and I'm not mad at it at all. but that knows what at the end of the day he's trying to go they need to do playoff things all this regular season things is all that it's going to be all good all dandy but what are you
Starting point is 00:46:02 going to do in the playoffs they haven't been able to do anything in the playoffs and he knows that people are going to hold them to that standard all this regular season is sweet it looks good all right but when we get to that wild car can we can we get a playoff win can we go to the division can we make like a push a real push because the talent is always there They always have numbered. The names on the back of those jerseys are unbelievable. Do you know what I'm saying? So the players is not that.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's like this. He understands. It's bigger than just this, the regular season and all that. And then for him, he's not, he's already going to get people talking crap about him anytime. So he's like, yeah, I heard the chance. I think I'm playing a great. I think I'm doing great right now. No, I'm like, I just not.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I don't care. I'm focused on us. Continuing to get better. And just the PC answer, the quarterback answer that you need to give. Right. right that's the i mean that that i think that is the real answer i think that's really how he feels because my thing is this would i take an MVP or would i take a super bowl win give me the super bowl win you can keep the MVP the goal is every year only one team
Starting point is 00:47:08 succeeds in accomplishing that goal and that's the team that walks away with that lombardy your main goal is to win the super bow yes it's other accolades that come along with it. But if your focus is those accolates, you're going to miss the bigger picture. You see what I'm saying? Hey, man, Jerry, out here flipping off fans? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Jerry, out here flipping off fans? Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, but Jerry, he up in the owner's street, looking down. Listen, Brian Branch of the Lions, he got, he got fined $20,000 last year for flipping off a fan.
Starting point is 00:47:49 What you're going to find Jerry? Hey, Roger, what are you going to find Jerry, huh? For flipping off the fans. This is supposed to be representation of the shield, all that other good stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a good look for an actual owner to be flipping off fans. Like, are you going to do something about that? Or are you just going to sit back?
Starting point is 00:48:12 I don't know. We'll see. I think you're going to sit back. You may. I think you're going to sit back. Oh, yeah. I don't know. He might have to, if we make enough noise,
Starting point is 00:48:22 he might have to do something. Who knows? It really don't matter, man. Roger Goodell is just a puppet. He was in the suite. He was in the suite, Lena. Roger Goodell is the puppet for the owners. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:48:35 You think he's going to find his, you think he's going to find his homeboy? Well, you got to find him a little something, you know, so a little slap on the wrist. They can fire him. They hire him. They can fire him. Like, they are the ones that says,
Starting point is 00:48:47 okay, you're doing well for us. going to keep you for another whatever we'll give you the use of a jet we'll give you this all this lifetime this will whoop all that why because he's making them a ton of money and every now and then one of the owners get out of line and you know what hey slap them on the risk give him five hundred thousand dollar fine don't say this don't do that and keep it moving although you know your team is worth five six billion back to them but yep you exactly right I mean so I think he go do something if we if if it gets loud enough but Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:19 If you don't find him, I want all NFL players to remember this, okay, that he did not find Jerry for getting caught giving fans fingers, so y'all bet not get fined for that either. You understand? NFLPA, executive director, where you at? Debo, you think they might try to make something different of him because he was in the crowd, like, because he was in the suite? Who cares? You flipping all fans at the game televised right.
Starting point is 00:49:48 there on TV, you ain't doing, you ain't doing it on your own. Oh, no. You can not just, you know, caliphant and all that. You, you right there, you, you're representing your team, the NFL, the shield, remember? No, for sure. You can't do anything that is going to tarnish the shield. negatively affects that shield. If that don't negatively affect the shield, a 95-year-old man giving somebody a finger and
Starting point is 00:50:16 they matured up by the end, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, they're going to have to get them a slap on the wrist. I don't think they will. I don't think they will, Debo. Listen, that ain't, you know, like I said, hey, we'll see, we'll see, man. They don't pay Roger Goodell, what is it, $60, $70 million a year for nothing. He's doing something great for him.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Mm-hmm. And I ain't going to lie to you. I used to hate Roger. I used to hate Roger But listen I still dislike your ass You still a bum to me But I understand where you're coming from now
Starting point is 00:50:55 Because if I was you Getting paid over the last Whatever years is being 10, 15 years anywhere From 40 something to 70 million dollars a year I think you'd have made close to 600 million dollars Since you've been
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah since you've been NFL commissioner Listen I would let everybody call me every name under the sun, I would do exactly what it is that I am told to do and I would sit there and keep it moving. I understand.
Starting point is 00:51:28 If I was in that position, I would probably do that. Because he works for them. Yes, that's your boss. Everybody don't realize that. That the boss is actually the 32 owners. Roger Goodell's boss is the 32 owners. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:44 So that's why, I mean, at one point I remember it was like when I found out it's 32 teams and they said it was making like around at this point it was probably like 60 million so I'm like okay so it's $2 million per team you know what I'm saying paying them that's what I'm like oh so each team just paying them 2 million
Starting point is 00:52:00 and that 36 that man got that's 64 million you know what I'm saying it's like that Lifetime jet use now Lifetime jet Lifetime jet Private jet Any never got to put yourself in the public guy I listen yeah
Starting point is 00:52:13 I'm I'm not I'm not listening to you, I'm not listening to you players. Hey, I ain't listened to a word you're saying. Shut up. I am deaf and mute. No, you ain't lying. Like, dude, they go. It's making $25 billion in revenue by 27.
Starting point is 00:52:36 That's it. Yeah. Keep you. Yeah. Hey. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We're there.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yep. I hate Roger Gassel. I hate you, too. I love you, too. I love you. I hate you. Listen, no question. Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Speaking of issues, the Titans beat the Cardinals in a wild one, dude. Kyle Murray said, that's how you lose a game one-on-one. Hey, man, how do you get an interception, fumble, other team recover for touchdown. And y'all y'all thinking of new ways
Starting point is 00:53:21 I don't know how many times And then Y'all thinking a new way To give up. What about they What about their damn running back, Debo? Boy, drop the ball.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Why do people keep doing that? Hey, I don't understand. Listen. You don't look sweet. It don't. You don't look cool. Listen, what you need to do is next time
Starting point is 00:53:43 don't drop that ball. I'm gonna tell my running backs until everybody going to the goal. When you score a touchdown, you can't drop the ball until you run out the back of the end zone. If you don't run out the back of the end zone, that ball better come back to the sideline. Hit your head on the goalpost. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:54:00 God, that's just dumb. And people are getting to keep doing it. It's just, it makes me so upset. Because I know, like, they're like, oh, yeah, celebrating. That's not making you look sweet. You don't look cool. You don't look like, yeah, okay, no, no, you look like an idiot. So just bring the ball all the way across the line, please.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Listen, no, go through the back of the end zone before you let that ball go. Don't let it go. Bring it home with you. Take it all the way. Take it to the crib. That's your touchdown ball. Some people like to give them away and throw them around. Like this, listen, don't let the ball go to you through the back of the end zone.
Starting point is 00:54:41 But hold up. Did you see the video? Oh my goodness Of the head coach Can we play that video Is there any way we can do that? Yay, nay, say Dude, let's put that video up
Starting point is 00:54:56 Now, I understand It's a point in time where You know, you got to motivate your player You know, hey, bro, come on You got to get it together, man Hey, that's all right, we got you, you know You tap them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, get them, you know, you get them going
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah. And this, this, this, this, this damn show wasn't one of those situations. Now, you give them, you could give them one, you know, and that's, I'm, I'm motivating you, though. Yeah, yeah, you can see the expression of motivation. Motivation, not, not like, I'm mad at you, like, like, like, I'm trying to, like, like, I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, okay. Right. Like, I'm trying, and that's the head coach, now. You know what I'm saying? That's Jonathan Gannis.
Starting point is 00:55:43 So dude doesn't drop the ball, right? So as he drops the ball, it ends up being a touchback, blah, blah, blah. He gets to the sideline. You got a line in there sitting there consoling my guy, right? You know, trying to tell him, duh, duh, coach runs up to him. Now, I only saw the first, I only saw the first one where he hit him walking away. So the one that I hope that it's going to be shown is going to be the one where he actually comes up. You can tell him he's dog fuck cussing him, right?
Starting point is 00:56:10 He hops him in his chest. and then on the way out dude's head is down just like he just he's upset he's sad he's sad he knows he knows he knows on the way out he gives him like a right hook bruh as he goes through
Starting point is 00:56:25 please play it please play it oh it's broadcast we can't play it it's broadcast wow what they need to go do go look at the clip they need to go see the clip go see the clip
Starting point is 00:56:41 all right it's the actual head coach dude is sitting he's standing there sorry and his lineman got his arm around him trying to consult him he comes up and bombs him in his chest after he bombing him in his chest
Starting point is 00:56:56 he hooks him as he walks off from the side now listen and debo don't even talk about how how he was head to head when I'm like all on it's like zero personal space no personal space now yes to hell with the personal space
Starting point is 00:57:10 You could get in my face. You could do all that, okay? You can't put your motherfucking hands on me. Bitch, you're a head coach, first off, Gannon, whatever your name is. He should have bombed him with a cannon on that right hand he got and just slapped the piss out of him. How are you going to now, as a man, go home and be like, uh, yeah, son, I let this man hit me.
Starting point is 00:57:40 twice. I'm losing my job, Joe. It's going to take how to the team to get me up off of him, dude. I had issues because I didn't allow coach to talk to me when I was a rookie any kind of way he, my linebacker coached any kind of way
Starting point is 00:57:56 he wanted to. I'm like, dude, you go give me the same respect. You get these vets. You don't have to give me any leniency or all that, but you're not going to talk to me crazy. Like, I'm a kid. That's not going to happen. That's what got me cut. My rookie year. Like, I'm not, You're not about to talk to me like I'm a child And you put your ass on me
Starting point is 00:58:14 Come on, man How I'm gonna go home to my son I'm gonna go home to my son I'm gonna go home to my son bro He'll be like hey You ain't do nothing to that coach That put his hands on So I know you ain't gonna do nothing to me
Starting point is 00:58:27 No He can tell you He'd be like dad Man be quiet You ain't sitting in the coach When he slapped up on you Yeah No we can't do that
Starting point is 00:58:34 And then something else that threw me off It's like The players are standing right there nobody's like, yo, coach, calm down. Like, you don't hit nobody, bro, unless you want to get hit back. Unless you're ready to fight. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah, like you say, James, it's a respect thing and it's an understanding it's a grown-ass man. That at the same time that you coming over there, all mad, do you not think that he feels like a complete... Head down, bro. Head down like this. The line got to stand on.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Got his man's consoling him. Yes. And you hit it. He bombed on him in his chest. And then he hit him with a hook on the way out. Like, where is it? It's no way on God's green earth. I could let that go, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah. Like, at what, like, you're the head coach. How are you going to address it? You got to address this. Like, you ain't got, you just dropped to the bottom person in your household. You ain't do nothing to that coach. That's what everybody's going to say. You ain't do nothing to that coach.
Starting point is 00:59:46 The locker room. Like, what are we talking about? Yeah, that's not, that's not cool. That's not cool. What you're going to do, Joe? What would be your response, Joe? I know I'm going to jail. Get my bail money.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I think off the, it's definitely going to be, what the, like, when he first walked up, I'm definitely addressing the situation. Like, I'm going, I think I'm, I don't know, I'm not going to still off on my coach. I'm just letting you know me off the rip. I'm not going to still off on him. He can't go on you twice.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I'm probably, I'm going, no, no, he would, I wouldn't have got hit twice. After the first bomb, I'm going, hum, push the thing. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, who the, like, we're going to talk. Like, I'm going to get my space back. Like, that's one, once he hit me in my belly, I'm pushing him off, and then it's going to be what it's going to
Starting point is 01:00:39 because now I'm hopefully like I just don't like people being all in my damn space like that and I've had a couple situations in Cleveland with just coaches not rocking I understand what you're saying now so you you're reacting to the first one
Starting point is 01:00:55 I got you maybe I'm reacting to the first yeah because the first one you might not end up in the field first it's going to be that reaction boom boom it's going to be that reaction it's going to be like boom boom boom what the whole what you got going you know what I'm lost your mind then we
Starting point is 01:01:09 now you lost your mind like what's up now I'm looking at him he's looking at me I'm like you just hit me now we what's up like what the fuck you could talk right so mad or like you yeah now now you get something in between you you know somebody's like whoa whoa whoa what's going on here oh yeah when you sit there just taking it
Starting point is 01:01:25 and listen I cannot I'm not gonna be able to sit there if I'm the dude that's holding him and you come and just bomb on him yo slow your role right there coach like is are y'all that afraid of this coach I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:40 This is not the first time he done did something like this. It can't be. You know, it's no way as a first time head coach, you bomb off on a player that dropped the ball going into the end zone on the sideline. And you're already up. They were up at that point. And you bomb on him?
Starting point is 01:01:59 No. No. Yeah. It's just like you said, Debo, that physical stuff, why are you hitting another grown-ass man? Thank you. On your, like, and it's not like a hype.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Like, come on, baby, we get, like, like, your pads up. Hey, man, come on. That's all right. We're going to get it back. Boom, you know, one of those. It ain't that. No, you frustrated. You're trying to box.
Starting point is 01:02:23 You mad. You ain't frustrated. You mad. That's what happens. You get mad. People get mad, and the first thing you want to do is you want to, you want to get, you want to get your hands moving. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:35 Like, like, like, think about it. You're sitting there and you're keeping. do something, and you'd be like, let me calm down. Let me calm down. Like, that's, like, the way I grew my patience, too, is my kids.
Starting point is 01:02:51 My kids have made me a far more patient person than I ever would have been in my whole entire life. They saved my life. For sure. One hundred and ten percent. But me today, reformed, far better than I was,
Starting point is 01:03:07 still, like you said, would have had to react to that. Now, old, old me, the one that ain't had no kids, ain't had no responsibilities, I'd have went on here and got locked up. Yeah. It took the team, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:25 it took four-five to pull me off of him because I'd have been trying to put cleats all through his lip, face, everything else. Yep. Like, I'm supposed to go home and James and Henry looking at me, like, hey, dad, don't say, shut the fuck up, dad.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I'll be no slap you in your mouth. You didn't do that to that coach. Kids just start cussing you out. No, I'm sitting there like this. No, I'm sitting there like this. Nah, man. I can't have that, bro. I can't have that.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Hey, man. No, no. Look here. Listen, bro, I want to let you know, brother, that I'm not upset that you're all lost. I'm actually happy. I know you're a little upset. But you're still over there in the U.K., London, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yes, man. We got my flight back. I get out of here tomorrow to come back. Okay, you out of here tomorrow. Oh, yeah, so we got to let know. We got to let them know. What's going to happen tomorrow, Joe? Man, we're going to be off tomorrow because I'm going to be traveling,
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Starting point is 01:05:04 Hey, who do we? Um, who do we play next week, Joe? Who do we play next week, Joe? Who do we play? You dirty, boss. Oh, is it the brownies? Who do we play? Who is the we?
Starting point is 01:05:21 You know who me is. Safe travels, bro. Oh, man. You know what I'm gonna be? I'm neutral. What? I'm neutral. You neutral?
Starting point is 01:05:34 And they play each other With jersey I'm gonna come in with a jersey It's gonna be a two, three jersey Split, half browns, half stillers Like my tattoo What tattoo? Bro, you better not had no
Starting point is 01:05:49 You better not had no browns and still a tattoo on you. Yep, right there. Bro, you see that? Brow. Browns is still. That ain't real. Brow, ain't real.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Ain't real. It's 50-50. It's browns and stillers on there. Hey, bro, look here. Who you looking to win
Starting point is 01:06:13 in this matchup? That's what I want to know. Whoever deserves to win. Whoever plays a better, more no turn. Who do you want to win, Joe? Whoever plays better in that stadium. Who do you want to win, Joe?
Starting point is 01:06:29 It ain't by who plays. Who do you want to win? whoever plays better come on I'm so glad I'm in London Depot your eyes are saying so many words like you want to like you want to put hands on me like that coach did
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