Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Dillon Gabriel's Browns debut, Patriots UPSET Bills, Ravens BLOWN OUT
Episode Date: October 6, 2025Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a Sunday Night Football as Drake Maye and the New England Patriots upset Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Later, they react to t...he Baltimore Ravens getting demolished by the Houston Texans, Dillon Gabriel's debut for the Cleveland Browns in a loss to the Minnesota Vikings, and much more from Week 5 of the 2025 NFL season! Timeline:00:00 - Browns fall to Vikings18:00 - Ravens blown out by Texans24:32 - Broncos beat Eagles30:50 - Bengals get smoked by Lions37:20 - Patriots stun Bills45:30 - Cowboys beat Jets53:18 - Titans beat Cardinals (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NIghtcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm your host, James Debo Harrison,
and I'm here with my co-host, lying-ass Joe Hayden.
Joe.
What up, Debo?
You don't lie to me, Joe.
You don't lie to me.
Listen, you told the people
You know, matter of fact, show him what he told the people
Can you show him what he told the people?
What I tell him?
What I told him he's going to make.
I want to play back what they told the people.
Are you going to play back?
Can y'all play back with what Joe told the people?
Can you please do that?
Come on.
I don't want to see it.
Mm-hmm.
How you ain't got it ready.
Listen
I know what I said
I know what I said
I said we was going to win the game
That's what I said
Yeah so Joe
How
How was it over there in London
That was miserable
Hey what happened
Because you know
It was early in the morning
It's the Browns
You know
And I don't
Really pay much attention
Because
we're sitting somewhere up here
in the north
but go ahead
I mean tell me
you can give me
you know tell me what happened
I mean because I heard
what I heard
you know so no no
let me just give you a little
run down and what went down
all right
first half is the tail of two halves
Dylan Gabriel's first start
not he was good
he was solid
he threw a couple errand throws
he did not turn over the ball
Hey Joe hey Joe
Hey Joe I mean I thought the defense ball
Like, I believe Cleveland had a phone recovery in the first quarter, right?
We had two.
Two.
And, and, and, and, and, I think, I think, I think, I think you had a running back that
stroked out for like 32 as soon as they got it back and they ended up scoring a touchdown.
Is that sound, that sound right?
That sounds exactly right, Debo.
Okay, okay.
And then also we had some, we had, my man, Juckins are running back, balled out.
He ran for 110 yards.
Yeah, he had a thing, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.
But then after y'all did that, I heard Minnesota.
Wentz kind of just went down the thing and just, you know, he scored a touchdown.
It was, and they just tied it up after y'all did that.
Is that, that's what, that's what I'm, that's what the world is saying right now.
I'm hearing a lot of this.
Oh, y'all scored another touchdown right after, oh, nope, looks like a holding penalty.
Yep, it looked like that got called back.
And called back, we had two holding penalties on that play.
Oh.
So we ended up getting no points there.
Okay.
So, I'm, we got to be a little more.
discipline but let's get to the so we little long story short debo fuck on long story short we get we
we get the halftime 10-7 we're up you're up we're up our first time going into half time oh yes that bought
the defense go hold that i know that for sure that's the first time us going into a half with the lead
we haven't been up in the damn half time for any game this season so we're good oh so something
happened after halftime i think ritz might have came alive again did he did he did he come alive again
getting dried down.
Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson and Wentz started hooping on us in the
second half.
They were balling.
Jetta was catching passes all over the place, was finding holes in our defense.
He was actually sometimes, though, man-in-man.
He was making great plays on Greg Newsom, on Denzel Ward.
It was man-to-man coverage when he was making the good catches.
So, you will stop rolling your damn eye.
My, I got something in my eye.
My bad, brother.
This is my part, too.
So let's go.
No, the fourth quarter.
we had four possessions, brother, in the fourth quarter, four possessions, one first down.
How do you keep putting the defense back in the position, back in the position, back in the position, back in the position?
But they tell me that Cleveland went out there, though, and ran the ball down.
They throat lightweight and went up.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And then they also got another fumble.
That's the other fumble, right?
Yes, Debo.
So you got the ball again.
What did you do with it?
What you do with it?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Oh.
Nothing.
And I heard Minnesota was trying to help you out, too,
by, like, missing a field goal after that.
Yes.
That's all right.
Yes.
I didn't watch it.
I'm just hearing things.
Like, it's coming to me.
They're giving it to me.
They bring it.
I don't know what it is.
You know how sometimes you hear?
Anyway, go ahead.
All of this is correct, Debo.
Okay.
So, matter of fact, no, since you, since you're getting all this hearing,
so what else did you hear?
What else did you hear go down?
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't hear
much of anything else.
I heard, like, the fourth quarter,
like maybe y'all should have
did something different there,
but again, I mean,
Wentz came alive?
You tell me, he drove down there again?
Wait, the last drive.
They're telling me he drove down there again.
It got another touchdown.
This, that, that was.
The defense didn't hold.
They voted number one,
uh, a brown deep didn't hold.
What?
How many, this one, this one's trying to say.
This, this, this, this, this,
what I'm trying to say. The Brown's defense, we needed to hold there. There's no reason why we give
up 80 yards. We need to stop them, at least give a field goal so we can go to overtime. My man,
Denzel, we had to cover two, soft two. He let the receiver, Addison, get an outside release on him
and he hit a whole shot for the touchdown. We cannot have that. We have to keep everybody in
front of us. We have to make that play. But my thing is this. Obviously, defense, we had to do better.
we cannot let them drive down to score the touchdown.
But we have four possessions in the fourth quarter,
when we only had one first down.
We got to be able to keep drives alive,
keep the defense off the field.
They keep on balling.
They were out there doing what they had to do,
but they didn't make the plays at the end of the game for us to win.
So the defense did let us down at that part,
but the offense needs to stay on the field a little longer.
And in the fourth quarter, you only had one first down.
how are you going to win the game with one first down in the fourth quarter
the devonthe brown's defense i understand that i'm just saying just hold up one time um
uh but i listen it can't be that bad you have a rookie quarterback starting i hear he did
pretty well he did what was necessary and here the guy didn't have any turnovers he actually
had a couple touchdowns like what joe tell me tell me what what happened what are you all of his
passes look i'm not his stat line is great but he's a rookie now he's a rookie he threw the ball
he was doing the same thing a man that y'all had there as the starter was doing without turning the
ball over so i mean you can't you can't knock that's that might be the officer coordinator
that maybe i don't know maybe you go ahead go ahead i'm just talking i'm not letting you talk
Go ahead, John.
Sorry.
You're on mute, buddy.
You just like to mime a lot.
You don't want people hearing what you're saying.
You don't want the people hearing what you're saying
because you're muted.
I understand.
All right, all, all, all.
This one's telling you.
Dale and Gabriel, he completed 19 of 33 passes,
but 15 of them were two running backs or tight ends.
Not knocking them.
There's a lot of dink and dunks.
Anything that he threw past 10 yards,
was a lot of airmail, was a lot of stuff just going, not, just errant passes.
So I'm not going to say my man did bad.
He threw two touchdowns.
He did not turn over the ball.
I mean, he did the same thing, maybe a little better than what, you know,
they did against Green Bay.
It's just that, you know, the defense was.
We want our defense to not give up any points.
We haven't scored over 17 points this entire season.
So we got to still be able to get some offensive.
going defense that you putting it on them every single time it's not like they got to make
place they were actually running the ball on minnesota's front line dude like what are we talking
about bro the brown's defense got a hold they did the bro Gabriel did pretty well in his first
start I would say brother you he did he did he did he did solid he's going to be good enough to win
don't you think he did he did he did play good enough to him he did he did he did he did he did
he did, but at the same time, two things could be right.
He played good enough to win, but he damn sure could have did better.
We could have converted a couple of those third downs to keep the ball out of their hands.
And I think it could be some play calling.
It could be, it definitely could be some play calling.
And at the same time, too, let me just go to what I think the real thing is.
What do you think is?
We don't really have, I think ever since this is going to go back to our organization,
we ever since we traded for Dachan Watson
the draft picks that we gave in up the six draft picks
the $230 million that's not on the field
like when you're like oh why don't we have another extra wide receiver
because we gave up six draft picks and that's why it's not there
so we're still trying that the defense is fighting
but at the same time we don't have 230 million and six picks on the team
and that's going to set you back so when we look at like the defense is bowling and fighting
We need to have better players on the offensive side of the ball.
We don't have a receiver right now.
Jerry Judy is doing pretty good, but I don't think that's going to shake.
So I think it's more of an organizational thing.
I think Dylan Gabriel did do good.
He's not, it wasn't his fault that we lost.
He played well enough to win.
The defense, if we want to be elite and you want to be the defense that we think we are,
we got to make those stops.
We got to make those plays.
But having them always being dependent on the defense is like, that's just tough.
And I know it was tough, but if you're going to be on the Browns,
I know that's where they're sitting there.
They know that that's what's going to take for us to win.
They can't give up nothing.
I mean, y'all stuck to what the Browns do.
It's okay, man.
You got to think about it, dude.
With that one, with that loss right there,
Browns' quarterbacks are only 17,
and they first started since, like, 97.
I mean, it's okay.
Like, the longest streak since then was, like, 1950, you know,
like something like that,
where they had the, I don't know, you know, that's just, I think it's the, listen, do you
you like the new quarterback that they got?
Do you like him better than Joe?
And do you think you may be able to get better from that dude at the three position?
I don't want to start no trouble.
I don't, you know.
We'll start no trouble yet.
This is what I'm going to say.
I'm not, Dylan Gabriel did not.
not play bad enough that, like, no, he's going to be able to play a couple more weeks.
We're going to give him some, we're going to give him his time.
They drafted him third round for a reason.
So that's going to be the third.
He's the second string quarterback.
Now he's in the game.
So he didn't play himself out of the starting position and any means necessary.
He didn't turn the ball over.
He threw two touchdowns.
You kept saying he ain't doing enough.
You double-talking me, Joe.
No, no, no, no.
You said he could have did more.
You could have did more, but he didn't put out of the day and start a job.
That he ain't do more.
He didn't play itself out of the starting position,
but he could have did fucking better.
That two things could be said at the same time.
You know what I'm saying?
19 for 33, 190 yards, two touchdowns, zero picks.
Not to run away with, you know what I'm saying?
Solid.
I'm not mad at them, but I'm not like this.
Oh, hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
He can do better.
Go back into the tape room.
Some of those damn passes over 10 yards that you threw,
all of them damn incompletions hit one of them.
hit one of them seven routes hit one of them phase there was no phase there was no post
only time was when we had that last when we had 22 damn seconds he threw a deep dig
fucking 20 yard bump right right in the money where the fuck was that earlier in the game
and then the next one he had on the overrout when he couldn't get out of bounds to try to kick the
field goal that was the next farthest pass he damn through i'm like where was this the whole damn
game you got 25 seconds and you finally threw two passes over 10 yards completions look good
where the fuck was that that's what i'm talking about
So he didn't play stuff out of a job.
He did solid.
But I'm like,
Joe, please some of them D-passes
and we could be, you know what I'm saying,
making something shake.
I understand, Joe.
But for someone that is,
uh,
have two teams,
you seem pretty upset.
I haven't heard you be this upset about a loss.
You know,
the Steelers lost when I didn't hear this kind of,
wha, out of you,
you know what I'm saying?
You know why?
You know why?
Do you know.
Did you mute yourself again?
Did you mute yourself again?
Why don't keep moving myself?
I'm getting so upset.
Don't touch the mic, baby.
Don't touch the mic.
Okay.
All right.
Go, Debo, listen.
It's organizational, which is what pisses me off.
When I went over to Pittsburgh, I don't care.
I just liked the way that they ran their business.
I just liked the way that they did it.
I felt like everybody was in the joint.
You knew what it was.
you have, you have, Coach Tomlin was the coach,
you've had three different coaches in the last 50 years.
The Browns, it's just so much turnaround, it's just so much turnover.
And the players, they can't get, you, you don't know when you keep having a new leader
every single year, a new voice, a new this, a new that.
There's no real, there's no real leadership.
And for me, I feel bad for the fans, because I'm out here in London with 290 fans
staying at this same hotel, we're having
a good old time, and they just always,
they're so supportive of the team
when they're shit. And that's what I
feel bad for them. You know what I'm saying? With the
Steelers, I already know. They're going to figure it out.
Y'all don't go under 800.
Y'all going to figure some shit out. Some are going to happen.
So if you lose a game, we could talk about
it, and I don't really get as mad because
Coach T's there. They're going to figure
some shit out. The defense is solid. We got
the players. We got people in.
Organizationally, they're structured, they're
strong, and they're going to be good. You know what it's going to be.
I don't know I can't get to smile off my face, Joe.
Why don't fuck do we keep finding a way to lose?
That's the part that pisses me off.
It's like we were up and then everybody
and then we just sitting there looking like this.
How are we going to fuck this one up?
How are we going to mess this one up?
That's what I get up.
Yeah, like, hey, I know we're up,
but you know, y'all know we're up.
But how are we going to get down?
How are we going to get down?
God, that's not good.
That's not a good film, deep.
Out of my ear.
Oh, man.
So that's why I get so passionate, man,
because I feel for the fan base,
I feel that they deserve better
than what's going on sometimes out on the field.
And I don't think that it's the,
we could have so many, like, all right, fuck.
We would have kept Baker Mayfield signing for $100 million.
Baker Mayfield doing some things, baby.
Man, Baker Mayfield's bawling.
Speaking of it, what a man?
Baker Mayfield just threw for 379 yards.
You know what I'm saying?
that's a type of offense I like to see
that's that's good
he threw my man
Dylan threw for 190 and then
and Baker threw for 374
so you got a big
disparity in experience there too now
this one I'm trying to tell you too
this one I'm trying to tell you too
why didn't we just keep Baker
for the hundred
we had another 100
we gave Deshawn 230
we had another 130 million
with six fucking draft picks
that we could have used
and they would have been on the team right now
Baker Mayfield
beat Pittsburgh
beat us in the playoffs
did that not happen
and then we got rid of him
and then we got Deshawn for 2.30
that we haven't seen
we haven't been able to see him play
and then we got
for a see all the injuries
you know what I'm saying
so I mean you can't
man listen
I understand
man I hear you brother
but listen
listen
I don't think
the Steelers wouldn't
the Steelers wouldn't have traded
for DeShan
and game 230 all guaranteed
this is true
This is true
And that's what I'm saying
There's nothing
You can't, you can control
What you can control
All you're gonna do is be in the locker room
Have your teammates in there
And you walk in
And you're gonna do what you can do
But you don't control
Who's your teammates
And who brings them in
And who signed and who stays
That's not out of you
That's out of your control
All you control is who the fuck
Is in there with you
And what y'all gonna do
So I just think
That they gotta do a better job
With that top
Let's bring in some good guys
And we be solid
Yeah, it's okay man
Listen
The Ravens got the shit
Stumped out them too
man i mean you go i mean it was close in the first quarter i think it was you know it was three to
seven yeah and from there you know houston just took the game over strow ended up what 23 or 27 for
244 four tugs they rushed for a hundred and sixty seven dude the first half they went five
or six on third downs dude the raven's defense dude
dude, can't put out a match
with a fire hose, dude.
They're missing tackles still, dude.
They can't bust a grape in a fruit fight.
Like, it's looking bad.
It was so bad the announcer for CBS, Ian Eagle, dude,
he sounded like he had pity on them.
I had no pity for them, man.
It ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun, man.
And the rabbit got the gun right now on the Ravens, man.
The rabbit got the gun right now on the Ravens.
He's not considering any, you know, any changes to any other staff, you know, none of that.
Why you, do you think something should be done?
He should change something?
Like, what's going on?
What do you think?
Where's the Ravens answers?
Man, it looked bad, Debo.
It looked like they didn't have any answer.
They weren't trying to make any tackles.
They weren't miscommunication.
like C.J. Strout, it looked like he was throwing routes on air.
Everything, just completions.
Boom, boom, walking it down the field on him.
Nick Chub was toting it, like vintage Nick Chub.
Like, I just don't, when the dude, like you said, he felt bad for him because he's like this.
I mean, it just doesn't look like the Ravens.
Like, these dudes, like, this is not the defense that I'm used to seeing.
Because he was walking through there.
Like, every time, like when C.J. Strout, the drive after drive, after drive,
it was touchdown into touchdown after touchdown.
And they quarterback for the Ravens, too.
Like, I mean, he looks out there lost.
He looks like he doesn't know left from right.
So that's not helping out the situation either.
So you've got an offense that don't look like they know what's going on
because Lamar's not in there.
And then their running game wasn't getting too active.
So here's my thinking on this, all right?
Lamar is the answer and the problem for them.
because he is such a great player.
Now, when you have a player like that, that is that great,
and you build the whole office around his talent,
the player that backs him up has to have some sort of skill level
or skills to operate in the same manner in which he does.
And when you don't have that,
and your whole offense is built around a dynamic player,
player like Lamar Jackson being able to do the things he does and your backup can do none,
this is what you run into offensively with not being able to get anything on the board.
Oh, exactly.
I think when you have a player at his ability level, like you said, it just, it can disguise a lot of other things.
And then when you have that quarterback that's coming in and he's a stand-up, complete opposite pocket passer than Lamar Jackson,
what is he he can't do that he can't be able to extend any plays he can't be able to make
anything happen so he's got to be in that thing either handing the ball off to derrick henry
or standing back making a five-step drop and hitting it and throwing it on time and that's not
the raven's offense so i completely understand what you're saying they're going to have to
either try to cater something to him but i'm not switching up my office for buddy because
you just got to go get a mobile back up right you have to get someone that is Lamar like
and can do the things that's necessary to do that
because he's a quarterback
that you're not worried about him running the ball.
So when Derek Henry is back there
and they hand the ball off,
we're not worried about what the quarterback is going to do
if he's going to pull it or anything else.
So now what do we do?
We key in on Henry.
Here first, go in fast as you can.
We'll get back up to this slow quarterback.
That's not a issue for us.
He'll want him to pull it.
Please pull it.
We're going to put you out the game.
Yeah, like, dude,
they gave a four.
44 points, which is the most they have ever given up in a home game in John Harbaugh's 18 years coaching.
Period, dude.
The Ravens are on pace to give up more and, like, shatter the Panthers' 24 record for most points allowed at 534.
They're at 35.4 per game right now, bro.
Like, I don't understand it, dude.
And I understand him not saying, like, I'm not changing.
No, no, I don't, I don't think it's coaching, dude.
It's the players, right.
It's the players.
I understand not changing your de-coordinator.
It's too late in the season to do that anyway.
But they're missing tackles.
They're getting pushed around.
They're getting beat.
They're getting, they're getting dominated by the other man across the ball.
That's just, it's nothing to coach about that.
Like, you got to win your one-on-ones.
And they're not doing that for the majority.
of the game in anything that they do.
I mean, Houston is Houston,
but I expected him to do, you know,
I expected him to do good,
but I didn't expect him to do this well.
Hey, shout out to C.J. Straught.
Oh, yeah.
He looked at the little athletic.
He was hauling ass up the sideline.
So, I mean, I think he might have been playing possible.
Well, you got to realize something.
I think he was playing possible.
You're doing this against the 30-second defense.
So unless you're the 30-second offense,
it should look different.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, he looked good, though.
He looked good.
44 is 44 on anybody.
It's 44, but they're going for a record of worst defense in the league.
So we're going to see what he do next week.
But I'm happy for CJ Stroud.
He looked athletic.
He did.
Well, you know, like I said, it could have been him joking, not joking, whatever it may be.
I don't know too many people.
They said he goes as far back as watching, like, like,
like pee-wee type stuff
games.
I'm like high school
or all that.
I'm like,
I don't even know
if I got high school type.
I do have high school type.
It's on DVD.
It's on DVD now.
It was on a VHS.
It's on DVD now.
I don't even know.
Dude, they still got DVD player?
I don't even know, dude.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You had to put it in the PlayStation.
Do the PlayStation still you?
I don't know, I ain't got no games.
I'm so, I know they do, they do.
I'm so far.
You can download them, but yeah, I still used, I still use the disc.
Dude, Eagles lost.
Eagles lost to the Broncos, bro.
They dominated that game for a good three quarters, dude.
And then they went and gave it up in the fourth.
What do you think people are doing to try and, uh, this is my, this is my thought.
Yeah, tell me what you think about it, Dee.
I think they're trying to change up and not run as much to maybe get receivers balls to keep the noise down maybe or whatever, you know, it is that they may be.
Because you ran the ball with Seguine all last year, and that got y'all, that got y'all a Super Bowl.
Like, that was what y'all did.
And now it almost like you're abandoning.
And I don't, I just don't, I don't understand it.
I know it came out in the, you know, like second half of that game, you know, Denver and they changed up, you know, what they were giving, what they were giving hurts and what they were given the offense.
And, you know, they showed things that looked like they were going to do something that they did.
And they'd show, man, it didn't drop out in the zone and all that other stuff.
But, you know, at some point, the offense coordinator, you got to adjust to that.
Hey, they're doing this.
Like, you know, we need.
to adjust to their adjustment.
And that's my thought.
That's my thought on it, you know.
What was the, what did Sequan run for?
Dude, I think he only had,
at one point in time, dude,
I think it was like in the third quarter,
dude only had like maybe six carries
or something like that.
Yeah, that ain't gonna work.
You can't detour from what got you there,
especially when you got Sequine Barclay.
Yes.
That doesn't mean.
make that doesn't make any sense i think they might maybe you know how like a j brown trying to get his
trying to get his voice out but i think jailant hurts some of them passes that he's throwing the a j brown
he just be over throwing my man throwing the joints out of bounds we're looking crazy so i know
jay brown and devante smith seemed to uh call out jayln hertz in consecutive weeks about uh
about the passing game well i mean it is what it is
I mean, sometimes I've been looking at some of those plays
where A.J. Brown is open, like, beating the dude on the deep ball.
And he's just overthrowing him by five yards.
I'm like, where are you throwing the ball to?
Give him a chance.
So, like, you know, the receiver,
if you throw the ball out of bounds or throw the ball where nobody,
I can't even, like, slow down, jump up and make a contest to catch.
Throw me something where I have an opportunity.
You know what I'm saying?
And these dudes are feeling like, dude, this dude, all cool modi,
is out here not getting me the rock
and throwing the ball crazy.
So I'm not going to just keep sitting here and chilling
And then we start messing around and lose the game
Because now it was all good, you're undefeated
But then when you start losing and you're looking bad
Then it's like, okay, now do y'all hear what I'm saying?
Are y'all not looking at these passes that are not in anywhere of my vicinity?
You know what I'm saying?
So I mean, I think it's good to be able to hold a man accountable.
Like, look, if he goes in there and look at that tape,
Jaila Hertz, was that pass bad?
Like just, yes, it was.
All right, then.
Well, let me see you make a better thing.
Oh, you know what I think it's just being able to stand on it and be able to be like responsible for your position when when you do bad, be able to say, yes, that's me.
I got to make sure this is better.
Yeah, I lie, bro.
It was six carries for the whole game, 30 yards.
God.
30 yards, bro.
Like six carries, 30.
It's only six carries, right?
So you're telling me that those six carries 30 yards, you're telling me five yards of pop ain't good enough.
six carries you cannot even warm yet
six carries he's not warm
I don't I got to yeah we got to
this the offense coordinator right
yeah I got to look into that one
that's wild you got to
hey Philly go over there
looking to your office coordinator
that's where y'all go find all your answers
and you know I mean players play on the field
so I understand you to overthrowing and all the other stuff
but maybe, you know, if he didn't have to do that as much, you know,
and they were given wider open passes because of the run game was working,
he wouldn't overthrow it in fear of, you know, getting a pick,
rather having incompletion than a pick, you know?
Yeah, I can see that.
The Sequin with six carries is crazy.
They got to change that.
That just doesn't make any sense.
Oh, yeah.
I got to let him touch the ball at least, at least 20 times.
That's how I feel.
Yes.
that's just yeah i didn't i didn't pay you all this money to just have you come over five six
care dude i could carry six right now at 47 i curious i like it for six yes six carries for
sure that was wild like i don't i don't understand so the bangles listen listen this how i'm
trying to tell you why you shouldn't be upset because the bangles lost too so the browns lost
loss, the Bengals lost, and the Ravens lost.
And the Ravens lost.
Which means we won.
You see that?
Yep.
Yep.
Right.
You know what, Debo?
You know, when we do talk about the Steelers.
And we do like to say we a lot of time.
So I'm saying we, but you sign on real distraught and frustrated.
I'm hearing more F bombs than I'm not heard ever, you know?
So I just, I don't feel like you giving us because I'm taking you out of the we right now,
the same loyalty
that you're given the clowns.
I mean, the browns.
That's disrespectful.
Don't call on the clowns.
My braces.
My braces is making mess up my word.
I'm sorry.
Nobody, Bo.
But, yeah, I'm distillers.
Listen.
You want to go to the Steelers?
You want to talk about the lines and bangles?
We want to talk about the lines and bangers, man.
Okay.
You know, you know, I mean, the lines are the lions.
it was just a little too much.
It was a little too much.
Browning.
Brownie out there was against the Bengals.
Who? Brownie was out there throwing punt balls.
He was throwing the ball to the other team.
He picked up and did way better in the fourth.
In the fourth quarter, he did good.
But at the beginning of that game, come on.
You know, you're in that pre-vent.
You know, you're not, you know, sat back, you know, all that.
You know, that's the only reason why.
Do you know what I was surprised, though?
The defense did do better.
Yes, they did.
Defense did do better.
They did.
They definitely made a step in the right direction
because that offense is a great offense to go against, man.
With the running game, with golf, with some Amara,
like that's a squad.
That's a team.
That's a full team that you're going against.
So then being able to have all them damn turnovers
and putting in positions.
Got them jumping out there, putting fires out.
You got three hits.
It could have been ugly than that.
He basically hits.
Well, you might as well say two quarters
because he got the third pit
as soon as the second player
of the second half.
Yes.
I mean, yeah, he is not,
you know what?
You know what?
Listen,
Russ can't do no worse.
They need to go on here
and see if the Giants to give up Russ.
Oh, for sure.
They didn't do something.
Something got to happen.
something got to give
I'm not going to lie
I hope they keep brown that's in there
for the sake of the Steelers
and for the stake of the Browns
keep browning in there
and keep having him
throw the ball to the other team
and this is going to be perfect for us
because they
that's what hey
but I kind of you know
I don't want to go in there
and have competition
you know what I'm saying
I want to see a good game
I don't want to go in there
and see the Steelers score 50
you know
TJ get 10
and sacks and, you know, 18 turnovers and all, you know, I don't want to see that.
You know, that's just, that's just boring, you know?
And then that's, you know, that's like, it's like beating a dead horse, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
You want to beat them at the top of the game.
You want to take, you want to beat them at the top.
I ain't going to say all that.
They can keep Burrow up out of there.
I ain't going to have all right.
You see, that tells you how good Burrow is.
Look what they got right now.
Look what they're doing right now.
Look what he's done.
Hey, Burrow, you might want to get up out of there,
baby, after your toe get right.
You might want to see.
I think they're going to waste you over there.
I don't know.
They ain't going to let him go nowhere.
I don't know.
Did they sign him yet?
I don't know.
I got to look at the contract.
That man, yeah.
The man Joe Burrow.
Is it the stipulation in there?
How much is the guarantee?
Yeah, it could be getting close to up.
But, you know, they're going to keep that man.
He probably making, what, like, 50 a year?
I think he's probably around 50.
Like, yeah.
I don't, yeah, listen, the only thing that may worry me is that they did play well, the defense played well.
Now, Lions is number six offense.
They did that well against them.
I wouldn't say that well.
They just didn't do as trash as they usually do.
Okay.
When it came time to actually like stop, they did stop them sometimes.
But it seemed like when the Lions was like, yo, we got to get.
something, they're getting too close.
They went on head, drove down the field and got a touchdown or whatever it may be that
they needed to.
So, I just don't want anybody else in the North improving too much on any side of the
ball, you know, because I'm selfish.
I respect that.
But Gibbs and the Lions is a really, really good team, man.
Oh, yeah.
Them running backs, bro, they, what was the, he set a record for scoring, two running backs
scoring each in the game, like 14.
They scored, both of them scored.
the game 14 times and I think that's a record for two running backs on the same team scoring
in the same game that many times so they just they still they balling and I love the way they
they support each other you know what I'm saying thunder and lightning so I think they got a they got a
really good thing going on their side for show oh no question dude like that that first week
you know that that that that was that they needed to get bumped on the head to go on here and
wake up mm-hmm you know like they they looking like the old
the old lions, you know, that had been,
we had been seeing the last couple of years.
Yeah, for sure.
It's a long season, too.
So, you know, that first game, like you said,
they got spanked up.
We didn't know what was happening.
But you can't just start being like,
oh, no, the lions are all messed up.
We don't know what's got.
No, no, no, no, no.
Let them get into it.
Let them start getting their footing, right?
Like, it's a long season.
And now we're going in the week six.
So now you're starting to really see kind of teams
starting to come into what they're going to be.
Yeah.
And it don't hurt, like you said, go against the Bungles.
I mean, the Bengals, I don't know my braces
is praising up against my lip like that.
You're so disrespectful.
No, my lip, dude.
I'm just, what's disrespect?
You want to know what's disrespectful?
What?
The Bengals been outscored the last three games,
113 to 37, okay?
Like, that's disrespectful.
The man done through three picks that game.
On top of that, he then threw eight interceptions
in the last four.
Like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
that's disrespectful that is disrespectful that's bad ball that's bad ball debo like if i'm joe burrow y'all
want me to come out here and do this y'all got to re-up y'all got to double my pay because i got to
get injury i got to get injury pay because i know i'm gonna get i'm gonna get hit from every side like
i'm gonna have to mess around and get a back of yotomy you know tackle ain't tackling ain't
protecting my backside or something, you know, I don't, I don't know, man.
But they need to get some line.
Because if they're going to keep Burrow back there, every time he keep getting hit, he
keep getting hurt, I mean, you got to protect them.
And then they still got Chase and they sign Higgins.
So the openness aside, I think it's going to, they're going to be explosive.
Defense, like you said, they look like they look like they're playing a little bit better.
But I think the main thing today we need to do is just get stouty up that line.
Because the receivers, man, Jamar Chase, Higgins, ballers.
Like, they have, they had the skill.
skill players to do it.
I just think that you got to keep Joe Burrow upright.
Yeah, you got to, man.
You got, if you don't do that, you only got a chance, man.
But the Patriots went on head out there
and stunned them boys over there in Buffalo,
23 to 20.
Yes, yes.
Defense.
Defense, turnovers, dude.
Turnovers.
It's a big thing.
Yes, buddy.
Turning the ball of the bills, man.
That's how the bill's.
killed herself with the turnovers, bro.
Yeah, so I guess the bills had an NFL record, 26 game streak without losing the
turnover battle broken when they turned the ball over.
Was it four times?
Four times?
Or was it three, three or four?
One or the other, dude.
It wasn't a, hey, listen, they got a quarterback over there, dude.
They actually got a quarterback over there.
Oh, May.
Yeah.
Yeah, bro.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
May doing this thing,
though, real talk.
Buffalo had two fumbles
in that first quarter
a bunch of penalties
like they had,
I believe they had
twice as many penalties
at halftime
than they had points.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, New England's defense,
dude, they played well.
They did good,
even though they had a few injuries too.
They had a few injuries.
They had four takeaways, bro.
May,
may look good, dude.
Like, he was,
passing the rock he was using his feet
to get things going, putting
his head down, going ahead and
doing what he had to do to try and get what he
needed to. He ended up
22 or 30 for 273
and you know that boy
Diggs went loose on him.
Man. Loose on him, boy.
10 for 146.
On his old team, bro.
Came back with like, I got something for y'all
last. Y'all thought I wasn't good enough
no more. Y'all ain't want me here?
No, that ain't. I didn't want me.
You know, they said he had some growing up, some growing up to do.
I guess he was a problem.
I guess that was the report from near and, what was it, Minnesota.
And then when he got to Houston, it was totally different.
I think everybody has points in times where they need to mature or grow up.
Prime example, like we got rid of receiver now playing for.
A George.
Dallas.
Yeah, we got rid of pickings, right?
So everybody was like, why would they do that?
Yeah, duh, his play was not the issue.
They were unsure of his maturity.
Like, you may have to hit a spot here or there
or have something happen before you're able to, you know,
mature into, you know, the person that you may become, you know,
later on in your career.
Just as Diggs is saying, like, yeah, I'm a lot more mature.
They're saying he's a leader, he's vocal, he's pot.
Like, that was something that he had to,
you know, he had to mature into.
Now, if say he had stayed in Buffalo and, and continued the same thing and they did
what was ever necessary to keep him, he's not going to mature because you're saying your
behavior that you're doing is going to achieve the goal that you want.
And that's how players become, okay, it was a little bit of an issue to it's a lot of
an issue to now you can't control the issue and you have to get rid of.
them because you fought so long to try and keep them there that they were determined that
you know what the behavior i'm doing is what's going to get me what i want instead of being like
yeah it's not going to work we're going to move you well it's not going to work we're going to move you
okay so i guess the problem is not the teams i was on the problem is me and it takes some
self-awareness to realize that that's what it is and that's what happens and maybe right now
pictures is over there doesn't realize like you know what i need to do something to to you know
grow up you ain't hearing nothing about anything that's you know going on on the field off the field
whatever it may be so you know it could be it could be one of those situations no no no for sure for
sure i mean i can definitely i could definitely see what you're saying because you know people you don't
when you first get in too you never know like the the business of the league you know what i'm saying
you just think you out there playing football and all that stuff but getting cut getting released
getting traded to another team with changes perspective real fast and understand like okay like i'm
might have to, I might, I might, I might have went about some things differently and this game
could be taken away from me. So I got to kind of mature in a little bit and maybe I can
handle things a little bit better. So I definitely, definitely understand where you're coming from
there because dudes come in, 21 years old. You're a kid at the beginning and then you start
seeing, you play a little bit. You see some other dudes. You're talking to him about situations and
then you can, you know, learning experience. You can't just get learning experience without living
through it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying.
If I would have listened to everything I was told when I was young
and actually took that advice and used it
instead of having to go through the process of,
you know what, let me be hard-headed and find out myself.
I'd be a whole lot further in life.
I think all of us.
Everybody would.
You know what I'm saying?
So, Biggs over there now, doing this thing, grinding it out.
Like, he's the, from what they're saying,
he's the perfect, you know, he's the perfect player.
He's the perfect teammate, you know.
and he's the guy that is vocal, a leader over there.
And I'm liking it.
I'm liking it over there.
I mean, we whip them, you know, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, we are the stillers, though.
So that does, that don't, you know, that don't matter.
But, you know, Buffalo did help them a lot with, you know, with penalties, with turnovers.
And you look at it, I think Buffalo had more yards than them, had more first downs and
them.
I think they even had more plays to them.
But the killers, they also had more penalties.
and more turnovers
and you know
they said they're not
well I guess it was a thing that came
out where they were saying you know
they're not worried or
stressed about I wouldn't either because
you basically you self-mutilated
yourself y'all killed yourself
and turnovers
understandable I can see that
but still
somebody out there
and get those turnovers
and force those turnovers
and recover those turnovers
and put those points up,
and that was, you know, that was Drake in them, you know?
Yes.
Yes.
And at the end of the day, too, when they was driving it down,
they got the defense got that stop,
and they kicked the field goal to tie the game.
When Drake got that ball back
and was able to march the joint all the way down
with him and Diggs and then getting escaping from the sack,
like being able to make a great.
He is making throws, full stride, half stride,
long down the field, on the money.
On the money.
And no position other than what his player could catch it.
Dude, that is scary.
He went and won the game.
Their defense put them in positions to be able to get into that position.
And then he went and won that game, man.
So he was just able to, like you said, making great down the field throws when you need it most.
Because games have ebbs and flows.
It's going to be first quarter, second quarter, turn over here, whatever, whatever.
What's happening in the fourth?
Can we win the game?
Is it still close?
Because everything else is all that.
We can figure it out like there's fluff.
But now when it's time to the nitty gritty, coach, what are we doing?
Are we going to score or are we not?
You know what I'm saying?
And being able to walk out of that stadium in the fourth.
So it just means so much more because you can go into that now and like, that's, that's good, guys.
You know what I'm saying?
Like we can get, we can play the bills tight defense, balled out.
And then we got to get into May's hands, him and Diggs brought it down for us to get the win.
So I think it just brings some confidence in the whole team.
Like, all this other shit to happen, whatever, we can deal with it.
But when they got down to the nitty gritty and we needed to score or get down to the field goal range, run out of the clock, whatever it may be, may did it for us.
And we won that game.
So that's a positive for them for sure.
Yeah, buddy, the Cowboys, they beat the Jets, 3722.
It was chance.
Chance of MVP.
It's week five.
That press guy, he said he heard it.
His words was, it's week five, I don't care.
What do you take of that?
How, how, how, you like that response?
Yeah, I mean, I do.
I love it.
I do.
I don't even like the Cowboys.
You know what?
I feel like at the end of the day, that, you, they're going to talk about the Cowboys all the time.
No matter what, man.
No matter what.
I ain't going to lie.
He's putting up numbers.
He's doing all that right now.
I ain't going to lie.
I ain't going to lie.
Yeah.
No, no, for sure.
And I'm not, and I'm not mad at it at all.
but that knows what at the end of the day he's trying to go they need to do playoff things
all this regular season things is all that it's going to be all good all dandy but what are you
going to do in the playoffs they haven't been able to do anything in the playoffs and he knows that
people are going to hold them to that standard all this regular season is sweet it looks good
all right but when we get to that wild car can we can we get a playoff win can we go to the division
can we make like a push a real push because the talent is always there
They always have numbered.
The names on the back of those jerseys are unbelievable.
Do you know what I'm saying?
So the players is not that.
It's like this.
He understands.
It's bigger than just this, the regular season and all that.
And then for him, he's not, he's already going to get people talking crap about him anytime.
So he's like, yeah, I heard the chance.
I think I'm playing a great.
I think I'm doing great right now.
No, I'm like, I just not.
I don't care.
I'm focused on us.
Continuing to get better.
And just the PC answer, the quarterback answer that you need to give.
Right.
right that's the i mean that that i think that is the real answer i think that's really how he feels
because my thing is this would i take an MVP or would i take a super bowl win
give me the super bowl win you can keep the MVP the goal is every year only one team
succeeds in accomplishing that goal and that's the team that walks away with that
lombardy your main goal is to win the super bow yes it's other accolades that come along
with it.
But if your focus is those accolates,
you're going to miss the bigger picture.
You see what I'm saying?
Hey, man, Jerry, out here flipping off fans?
Yeah, man.
Jerry, out here flipping off fans?
Yes.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't,
but Jerry, he up in the owner's street, looking down.
Listen, Brian Branch of the Lions, he got, he got fined $20,000 last year for flipping
off a fan.
What you're going to find Jerry?
Hey, Roger, what are you going to find Jerry, huh?
For flipping off the fans.
This is supposed to be representation of the shield, all that other good stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's not a good look for an actual owner to be flipping off fans.
Like, are you going to do something about that?
Or are you just going to sit back?
I don't know.
We'll see.
I think you're going to sit back.
You may.
I think you're going to sit back.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
He might have to, if we make enough noise,
he might have to do something.
Who knows?
It really don't matter, man.
Roger Goodell is just a puppet.
He was in the suite.
He was in the suite, Lena.
Roger Goodell is the puppet for the owners.
That's what I'm saying.
You think he's going to find his,
you think he's going to find his homeboy?
Well, you got to find him a little something, you know,
so a little slap on the wrist.
They can fire him.
They hire him.
They can fire him.
Like, they are the ones that says,
okay, you're doing well for us.
going to keep you for another whatever we'll give you the use of a jet we'll give you this all
this lifetime this will whoop all that why because he's making them a ton of money and every
now and then one of the owners get out of line and you know what hey slap them on the risk give
him five hundred thousand dollar fine don't say this don't do that and keep it moving
although you know your team is worth five six billion back to them but yep you exactly right
I mean so I think he go do something if we if if it gets loud enough but
Yeah.
If you don't find him, I want all NFL players to remember this, okay, that he did not find Jerry
for getting caught giving fans fingers, so y'all bet not get fined for that either.
You understand?
NFLPA, executive director, where you at?
Debo, you think they might try to make something different of him because he was in the crowd,
like, because he was in the suite?
Who cares?
You flipping all fans at the game televised right.
there on TV, you ain't doing, you ain't doing it on your own.
Oh, no.
You can not just, you know, caliphant and all that.
You, you right there, you, you're representing your team, the NFL, the shield, remember?
No, for sure.
You can't do anything that is going to tarnish the shield.
negatively affects that shield.
If that don't negatively affect the shield, a 95-year-old man giving somebody a finger and
they matured up by the end, that's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're going to have to get them a slap on the wrist.
I don't think they will.
I don't think they will, Debo.
Listen, that ain't, you know, like I said, hey, we'll see, we'll see, man.
They don't pay Roger Goodell, what is it, $60, $70 million a year for nothing.
He's doing something great for him.
Mm-hmm.
And I ain't going to lie to you.
I used to hate Roger.
I used to hate Roger
But listen
I still dislike your ass
You still a bum to me
But I understand where you're coming from now
Because if I was you
Getting paid over the last
Whatever years is being
10, 15 years anywhere
From
40 something to 70 million dollars a year
I think you'd have made close to 600 million dollars
Since you've been
Yeah since you've been NFL commissioner
Listen I would let everybody call me
every name under the sun,
I would do exactly what it is
that I am told to do
and I would sit there
and keep it moving.
I understand.
If I was in that position,
I would probably do that.
Because he works for them.
Yes, that's your boss.
Everybody don't realize that.
That the boss is actually the 32 owners.
Roger Goodell's boss is the 32 owners.
Yeah.
So that's why, I mean, at one point I remember
it was like when I found out
it's 32 teams and they said it was making like
around at this point it was probably like 60 million
so I'm like okay
so it's $2 million per team
you know what I'm saying paying them that's what I'm like
oh so each team just paying them 2 million
and that 36 that man got that's 64 million
you know what I'm saying it's like that
Lifetime jet use now
Lifetime jet
Lifetime jet
Private jet
Any never got to put yourself in the public guy
I listen yeah
I'm I'm not
I'm not listening to you, I'm not listening to you players.
Hey, I ain't listened to a word you're saying.
Shut up.
I am deaf and mute.
No, you ain't lying.
Like, dude, they go.
It's making $25 billion in revenue by 27.
That's it.
Yeah.
Keep you.
Yeah.
Hey.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
We're there.
Yep.
I hate Roger Gassel.
I hate you, too.
I love you, too.
I love you.
I hate you.
Listen, no question.
Listen, man.
Speaking of issues,
the Titans beat the Cardinals in a wild one, dude.
Kyle Murray said, that's how you lose a game one-on-one.
Hey, man, how do you get an interception, fumble,
other team recover
for touchdown.
And y'all
y'all thinking of new ways
I don't know how many times
And then
Y'all thinking a new way
To give up.
What about they
What about their damn
running back, Debo?
Boy, drop the ball.
Why do people keep doing that?
Hey, I don't understand.
Listen.
You don't look sweet.
It don't.
You don't look cool.
Listen, what you need to do
is next time
don't drop that ball.
I'm gonna tell my running backs until everybody going to the goal.
When you score a touchdown, you can't drop the ball
until you run out the back of the end zone.
If you don't run out the back of the end zone,
that ball better come back to the sideline.
Hit your head on the goalpost.
Come on, man.
God, that's just dumb.
And people are getting to keep doing it.
It's just, it makes me so upset.
Because I know, like, they're like, oh, yeah, celebrating.
That's not making you look sweet.
You don't look cool.
You don't look like, yeah, okay, no, no, you look like an idiot.
So just bring the ball all the way across the line, please.
Listen, no, go through the back of the end zone before you let that ball go.
Don't let it go.
Bring it home with you.
Take it all the way.
Take it to the crib.
That's your touchdown ball.
Some people like to give them away and throw them around.
Like this, listen, don't let the ball go to you through the back of the end zone.
But hold up.
Did you see the video?
Oh my goodness
Of the head coach
Can we play that video
Is there any way we can do that?
Yay, nay, say
Dude, let's put that video up
Now, I understand
It's a point in time where
You know, you got to motivate your player
You know, hey, bro, come on
You got to get it together, man
Hey, that's all right, we got you, you know
You tap them, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, get them, you know, you get them going
Yeah.
And this, this, this, this, this damn show wasn't one of those situations.
Now, you give them, you could give them one, you know, and that's, I'm, I'm motivating you, though.
Yeah, yeah, you can see the expression of motivation.
Motivation, not, not like, I'm mad at you, like, like, like, I'm trying to, like, like, I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, okay.
Right. Like, I'm trying, and that's the head coach, now.
You know what I'm saying?
That's Jonathan Gannis.
So dude doesn't drop the ball, right?
So as he drops the ball, it ends up being a touchback, blah, blah, blah.
He gets to the sideline.
You got a line in there sitting there consoling my guy, right?
You know, trying to tell him, duh, duh, coach runs up to him.
Now, I only saw the first, I only saw the first one where he hit him walking away.
So the one that I hope that it's going to be shown is going to be the one where he actually comes up.
You can tell him he's dog fuck cussing him, right?
He hops him in his chest.
and then on the way out
dude's head is down just like he just
he's upset he's sad
he's sad he knows he knows he knows
on the way out he gives him
like a right hook bruh
as he goes through
please play it
please play it
oh it's broadcast
we can't play it it's broadcast
wow
what they need to go do
go look at the clip they need to go see the clip
go see the clip
all right
it's the actual head coach
dude is sitting
he's standing there sorry
and his lineman got his arm around him
trying to consult him he comes up
and bombs him in his chest
after he bombing him in his chest
he hooks him as he walks off
from the side
now listen
and debo don't even talk about how
how he was head to head
when I'm like all on it's like zero personal space
no personal space now yes
to hell with the personal space
You could get in my face.
You could do all that, okay?
You can't put your motherfucking hands on me.
Bitch, you're a head coach, first off, Gannon, whatever your name is.
He should have bombed him with a cannon on that right hand he got
and just slapped the piss out of him.
How are you going to now, as a man, go home and be like,
uh, yeah, son, I let this man hit me.
twice. I'm losing my job, Joe.
It's going to take
how to the team to get me up off of him, dude.
I had issues
because I didn't allow
coach to talk
to me when I was a rookie any kind of
way he, my linebacker coached any kind of way
he wanted to. I'm like, dude, you go give me the same respect.
You get these vets. You don't have to give me
any leniency or all that, but you're not
going to talk to me crazy. Like, I'm a kid.
That's not going to happen. That's what got me
cut. My rookie year. Like, I'm not,
You're not about to talk to me like I'm a child
And you put your ass on me
Come on, man
How I'm gonna go home to my son
I'm gonna go home to my son
I'm gonna go home to my son bro
He'll be like hey
You ain't do nothing to that coach
That put his hands on
So I know you ain't gonna do nothing to me
No
He can tell you
He'd be like dad
Man be quiet
You ain't sitting in the coach
When he slapped up on you
Yeah
No we can't do that
And then something else that threw me off
It's like
The players are standing right there
nobody's like, yo, coach, calm down.
Like, you don't hit nobody, bro,
unless you want to get hit back.
Unless you're ready to fight.
What are we talking about?
Yeah, like you say, James,
it's a respect thing and it's an understanding
it's a grown-ass man.
That at the same time that you coming over there,
all mad, do you not think that he feels like a complete...
Head down, bro.
Head down like this.
The line got to stand on.
Got his man's consoling him.
Yes.
And you hit it.
He bombed on him in his chest.
And then he hit him with a hook on the way out.
Like, where is it?
It's no way on God's green earth.
I could let that go, bro.
Yeah.
Like, at what, like, you're the head coach.
How are you going to address it?
You got to address this.
Like, you ain't got, you just dropped to the bottom person in your household.
You ain't do nothing to that coach.
That's what everybody's going to say.
You ain't do nothing to that coach.
The locker room.
Like, what are we talking about?
Yeah, that's not, that's not cool.
That's not cool.
What you're going to do, Joe?
What would be your response, Joe?
I know I'm going to jail.
Get my bail money.
I think off the, it's definitely going to be,
what the, like, when he first walked up,
I'm definitely addressing the situation.
Like, I'm going, I think I'm, I don't know,
I'm not going to still off on my coach.
I'm just letting you know me off the rip.
I'm not going to still off on him.
He can't go on you twice.
I'm probably, I'm going, no, no, he would,
I wouldn't have got hit twice.
After the first bomb, I'm going, hum, push the thing.
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Like, who the, like, we're going to talk.
Like, I'm going to get my space back.
Like, that's one, once he hit me in my belly,
I'm pushing him off, and then it's going to be what it's going to
because now I'm hopefully like
I just don't like people
being all in my damn space like that
and I've had a couple situations
in Cleveland with just coaches
not rocking
I understand what you're saying now
so you you're reacting to the first one
I got you maybe I'm reacting to the first
yeah because the first one
you might not end up in the field first
it's going to be that reaction
boom boom it's going to be that reaction
it's going to be like boom boom boom what the whole
what you got going
you know what I'm lost your mind then we
now you lost your mind like what's up
now I'm looking at him he's looking at me
I'm like you just hit me now we what's up
like what the fuck you could talk right so mad
or like you yeah now
now you get something in between you
you know somebody's like whoa whoa whoa what's going on
here oh yeah when you sit there just taking it
and listen I cannot
I'm not gonna be able to sit there
if I'm the dude that's holding him and you come
and just bomb on him yo slow
your role right there coach
like is are y'all that
afraid of this coach
I don't know.
This is not the first time he done did something like this.
It can't be.
You know, it's no way as a first time head coach,
you bomb off on a player that dropped the ball
going into the end zone on the sideline.
And you're already up.
They were up at that point.
And you bomb on him?
No.
No.
Yeah.
It's just like you said, Debo,
that physical stuff,
why are you hitting another grown-ass man?
Thank you.
On your, like, and it's not like a hype.
Like, come on, baby, we get, like, like, your pads up.
Hey, man, come on.
That's all right.
We're going to get it back.
Boom, you know, one of those.
It ain't that.
No, you frustrated.
You're trying to box.
You mad.
You ain't frustrated.
You mad.
That's what happens.
You get mad.
People get mad, and the first thing you want to do is you want to, you want to get,
you want to get your hands moving.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like, like, think about it.
You're sitting there and you're keeping.
do something, and you'd be like,
let me calm down.
Let me calm down.
Like, that's, like,
the way I grew my patience,
too, is my kids.
My kids have made me a far more
patient person than I ever would have been
in my whole entire life.
They saved my life.
For sure.
One hundred and ten percent.
But me today,
reformed, far better than I was,
still, like you said,
would have had to react to that.
Now, old, old me,
the one that ain't had no kids,
ain't had no responsibilities,
I'd have went on here and got locked up.
Yeah.
It took the team, you know,
it took four-five to pull me off of him
because I'd have been trying to put cleats
all through his lip, face, everything else.
Yep.
Like, I'm supposed to go home
and James and Henry looking at me,
like, hey, dad, don't say,
shut the fuck up, dad.
I'll be no slap you in your mouth.
You didn't do that to that coach.
Kids just start cussing you out.
No, I'm sitting there like this.
No, I'm sitting there like this.
Nah, man.
I can't have that, bro.
I can't have that.
Hey, man.
No, no.
Look here.
Listen, bro, I want to let you know, brother,
that I'm not upset that you're all lost.
I'm actually happy.
I know you're a little upset.
But you're still over there in the U.K., London, you know.
Yes, man.
We got my flight back.
I get out of here tomorrow to come back.
Okay, you out of here tomorrow.
Oh, yeah, so we got to let know.
We got to let them know.
What's going to happen tomorrow, Joe?
Man, we're going to be off tomorrow because I'm going to be traveling,
but we will be back on Friday for the Debo and Joe show.
Back live, 11 o'clock, with your Thursday night football recap,
with your Monday night football recap, with your what's about to happen this weekend recap.
Me and Debo.
Look here, baby.
We will be back here on Friday.
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Hey, who do we?
Um, who do we play next week, Joe?
Who do we play next week, Joe?
Who do we play?
You dirty, boss.
Oh, is it the brownies?
Who do we play?
Who is the we?
You know who me is.
Safe travels, bro.
Oh, man.
You know what I'm gonna be?
I'm neutral.
What?
I'm neutral.
You neutral?
And they play each other
With jersey
I'm gonna come in with a jersey
It's gonna be a two, three jersey
Split, half browns, half stillers
Like my tattoo
What tattoo?
Bro, you better not had no
You better not had no browns
and still a tattoo on you.
Yep, right there.
Bro, you see that?
Brow.
Browns is still.
That ain't real.
Brow, ain't real.
Ain't real.
It's 50-50.
It's browns and stillers
on there.
Hey, bro, look here.
Who
you looking
to win
in this matchup?
That's what I want to know.
Whoever deserves to win.
Whoever plays a better, more
no turn.
Who do you want to win, Joe?
Whoever plays better in that stadium.
Who do you want to win, Joe?
It ain't by who plays.
Who do you want to win?
whoever plays better
come on
I'm so glad I'm in London Depot
your eyes are saying so many words
like you want to
like you want to put hands on me like that coach did
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