Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - SNF REACTION: Steelers ROASTED by Chargers, Browns lose to Jets, NFL MVP Predictions

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Sunday Night Football where Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers fell to Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers. Later, they react to the New York Jets beating the Cleveland Browns, Jonathan Taylor's MVP-like performance as the Indianapolis Colts defeated the Atlanta Falcons, and recap much more action from Week 10 of the 2025 NFL season! Timeline:00:00 - Chargers beat Steelers32:50 - Browns x Jets46:00 - Lions beat Commanders50:10 - Colts beat Falcons53:15 - Dolphins beat Bills55:50 - Seahawks beat Cardinals56:30 - Patriots beat Bucs59:30 - Rams beat 49ers1:01:00 - MNF Preview: Eagles x Packers (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Nightcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing all right, Debo.

I'm doing all right, man. It was tough. It was a tough weekend to watch football, my brother. I ain't going to lie to you. It was a lot of bad ball going on out there. A lot of things, a lot of things to be talked about, honestly. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Y'all lost, which is a good thing.

But we lost, which is a bad thing. And the Ravens won, which is a bad thing for both. Yeah, it's a bad thing for both of us. We can mutually get on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So which one we're going to get to? Let's just jump into this. Let's jump into this still a thing right now, man, okay?

So we go ahead, we get down to everything, you know, I'm thinking, I'm feeling good, I'm feeling good, I'm feeling good, all right. Get the right. We actually get good field position. We start off with the ball, you know, right. I think we like at the 40, because they messed up the, you know, they messed up the kick. Yeah. And then before the first night, we get a false start. First play the game.

We get a false start. Okay. Just get behind the stick. We get behind the stick. Next two plays, we get a three-yard and an eight-yard, which would have been a first down if we hadn't, if we hadn't got that off-side, got that a far start, you know. Yes. And then, of course, we get pressured on the third down. He got, we just really press it all night.

He got to make some maneuvers, and we don't get it. We punt the ball. Yes. Chargers get out there. Hey, first play, we stuffed the run, dude. Hey, popping off, right. The second play, we get some pressure. High Smith get up in there.

And what we do, we tackled the catch immediately. Echoes, echoes. You see that, bro. They was running up hitting. You catch the ball. You get tackle. No question. We get a third down in completion.

They punt the ball. Good defense. No question. I'm good. I'm good with all that. Even if he had made that, hey, you're sitting there, you ready to go to tackle the cat. I ain't tripping. Yeah.

We get them to punt the ball. dude shanks the ball again like he shanks this one this time like the punter shanks I think we get it at like the like the what 45 or something like that 46 yes 45 45 y'all line yo we go out there

third down he just misses DK of course he's pressured again he's having to run around move around but we got to make that we got to make it you got to make that throat we have to make that We got to make that.

He's open. He's wide open. Even if you give him a chance, we can't overthrow. Is Deba with number two, the safety? He's running behind him, chasing. That's a vet play. We need a rod. Like a lot of his passes, he knows he got to play.

We got to hit that. We got to hit that, bro. No question. We end up selling it for three. We get the- $59, bro. We get that right there. No issue, bro.

Chargers get back out there. And then on the second down, they get a gain of nine. because we missed the tackles. So that puts them in a situation where I think third and fourth down, they do two quarterback sneaks. It's kind of hard to stop that yard. I understand. Yeah.

And then they run the ball again at first down. Boom. We stopped that thing, man. We get the third down, and I thought nephew had me. Nephew was in position. Ness you. We don't capitalize on it. That's cool, though.

We get them up out of there. They got a punt. They got a punt to rock, dude. No issue. Still, let's get the ball. The first play, bro, it's a negative run. Like, you know, lost a two. They earned our back.

Hey, what is going, you, Washington, bro, you 300 pounds, and you in motion. You let this man totally stop. You push you back and then use his back to make the tackle. You got to go. get him up out of there. You got to get him up out of there, third down. They pressure us again. They pressuring us in four, man, bro.

Like, we got lucky on that third that he was able to fall down on that thing. And just, it wasn't a touchdown. Yeah. No, for sure. And that's your own in the line and knocked the ball out of his hand. But we got to just, we can't, we can't, a safety? Come on. That's the point.

This is what I'm saying. defense isn't even out on the field and we're giving up points. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, come on, man. It's cool. It's still three, two, you know. Go ahead, kick the ball to him.

We back out there on defense. A little short run, you know, on the first down. I think we pressure, and we was pressing him all night, to be honest with you. He scrambled for about three or something like that. And then they got a false start. And the next third down, pressuring him again, he ends up throwing

it behind. If the money, if the pass was on the, you know, money, he might have got it. He still had somebody there to make the tackle. I wasn't tripping. They get an incompletion. Part of the ball. We get the rock. That was good. No question. Slate was as good. Yeah, I'm going to get to that too, brother. So

still let's get the rock back, right? Okay. First play, we get 19 to D.K. Okay. All right? The second one, Washington Gones' head. He makes a nice catch, too. Like, oh, it's great. Then on the first down, we get a run.

Jalen, I think, hit for about nine. And then the next one, he got the first down on that. And the preceding first down, we hit fire move. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Like, we're moving. And then we get a seven-yard gainie race for a holding penalty. Ain't happy about it.

But, hey, self-inflicted. Self-inflicted. but then we get the, I think we get the 18-yard catch, but it's reviewed. We see they called it incomplete. You know what I'm saying? And that's another play. That's another pass.

He was throwing high all night. Why in the hell we need to make those? These are simple completions. These are simple completion that we're talking about, Debo. I'm not asking for the craziest. I'm not asking for, you know what I'm saying, squeezing in a little window. If he's right open, these are layups. These are layups.

These are routes on air. These are routes that you hope that you can see. You know what I'm saying? Like, did you wish for this? Just drop it in a bucket. Don't over, you know what I'm saying? Like, these are the passes where I'm like, when he's right there, he could be able to walk into the end zone.

There should be 14 points that we should have as an offense. Instead, no, not it. We attempt to field goal. And for the first time and a long time. 16 in a row he made until this. And that's my good man. No question. I'm not, hey, man, listen.

You can't make them all. You can't be 100%. Can't be 100%. God. So, we still have three, too, though. He should, he shouldn't have been in that situation. I know, Debo, but at the same time, when you think about just things that are left on the tape, so much on the bone, and it's simple stuff on the bone. Like, big plays that are just like, no, we could have boom, had DK for that floater joined out of him in the touchdown.

Right here, John Smith, wide open. He could have just, you know what I'm saying? Just hit him right there. he's wide open. Nobody's in a place where you got to throw the ball that damn high. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

he was, for some reason, I don't know why. He was throwing high all night, dude. Like, like when you go back and you, you're just looking at it.

The chargers get the ball back. You know, they move it down on a couple passes. And then they get the big, like, 11-yard run. Yo, what is 90s doing, man? He is back there three yards before he gets off his block.

Why are you as a de-linement three yards deep over there. And that's the play, we lose Slay. That's the same play. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, it was. Like, it was. Come on, man. That was the first explosive. Because on this drive, like you said,

this is the first time we started getting hit. Defense was standing up until when they missed that field goal, they got that position, they started. He finally, like we said, he, uh, what's my man's name? Herbert wasn't doing nothing. No. They only had, he was like, by this point he had 14, Y'all's passing. We lose Slay on that play, man. It was 42.

Hey, he's lucky. He didn't get a penalty on that play, bro. Oh, he dumped him. He dumped him. I love Pierre. Pierre. Pierre was out there making plays. He was out there tackling, hitting, you know what I'm saying?

PbUs. Yeah. But he could have, he lived buddy. What? Yes, buddy. Scott. Yes. Yes.

Yes. He dumped him. He did. He did. He did so dump. The next first down, Herbert, get in there and get a sack. Yes. I'm loving that.

The second. Dude. Second down. This one. this is what echoes yes bad eyes what are they looking at bro what is it what is that man or am i just i don't know what the hell i'm talking about what's going on like that's man and that's the same thing i was trying to tell you about that's eye discipline you need to be looking at your bag you need be looking at your coverage that's that's like dude goes to break and it's like they like

where where where the quarterback no because when he breaks on them that's when the cornerbacks looks like that that's when you're looking at the quarterback hoping and praying he doesn't throw it to your man and it happens to be, oh, he was open and he ended up going another way. That's what it is. He needs to look at his man. He needs to be on his luggage. That's what it is, Dee. So that was just, he was, he made some really good plays, and I'm not going to knock, but

there's certain plays when you don't perform. I'm going to, I've got to point him out, which is just like, that's what it is. Right. They get 16 on that. We're able to, you know, get some pressure. We're able to stop him. And we missed another opportunity right there where the ball slipped through dude's hands.

He could have scoop. didn't get that. They end up attempting the field goal. They get the field goal. Now we down, what is it, 5-3. Okay. Five-three. We get the ball back.

The first down, we get sack. Yeah. Four men. But, but three. Bud almost not. Put him to sleep, dude. Almost put him on accident. Almost put him to sleep.

He didn't even drop his head, almost put him to sleep on accident. Yes. You saw that. Yes, dude. Like on accident. Yeah. Love book. For sure, for sure.

Third down, Roger misses it short. It was longer short, dude. Longer short, dude. I ain't never seen him have a game as bad, man. Oh, yeah, that was a great play by the DB2. He got a head around. It's either longer short.

I don't, anyway, man, we punt the rock. Okay. Again, the first play, they were actually staying ahead of the change. What was that thing called? The racial, success ratio it was doing all right

a lot of first downs on a sustained ratio they got but they got a first down right they did somebody was out of their gap somebody was definitely out of their gap

okay and then yeah yeah after that one he stood up and then the second down we got like a holding penalty or something

and 95 actually goes head and I think he made a sack on him so he went on here he tried to make up but I mean if you had just

not got three yards deep on that one we might still have slay we end up making them punt whatever you know still let's get back out there in the second play do a high pass errin throws a pick at our 38 bro what are we doing so that's what I'm saying this is the same thing it was you see how to wait at that linebacker when they it was like an exchange he tried to throw it over the linebacker and in between the safety high ball you can't throw that that was just good defense by the chargers and a bad ball high again like you say either high or short but like that was we we can't be making those turnovers it was just bad

balls by a rod and he knows it and that you're not that's not winning football not winning football no chargers get the rock back first play strike off eight yards again that that that success rate thing that we was talking about um winning on first yeah the next the next first down they end up getting a seven-yard pass because of what miss tackles we miss the tackle like they stand ahead of the change like and it's not like they're doing anything great you know what I'm saying like the next first down we get a great pass breakup like that was a great like he went in there got the hand in there got it up out of yes yes was both yeah great great timing bro great play yes for for the most part most of the dbs played better then

lad mcconkey McConkey dude McConkey yes bro McCongy McConkey he he had what are we looking at The same thing again

Are they taught man to Hey when he go to break see where the quarterback at? Same thing no no no no no same thing same thing and on this one on this one I would like to say that was just terrible at the top of the route

you know what I'm saying he routed him he gave him the jug so he's looking at the quarterback again that's your man you have to go to him same time we got the new db so it's like a cut so we saw the lineback of queen took the other guy they're running straight drag routes so queen took his guy we need him to kind of fall off and help him on that on that route but at the same time echoes that's your man you need to have a little bit of inside help that's what you want to force him inside but you're not you're not covering him once he jugged you you're standing there looking at the quarterback To see if he saw, I got me. Yes, he thought.

That's exactly what he was looking at, Debo. So that was legit man. And he needs to have somebody can fall off and give him a little more help on the inside. But as a man and man in the coverage, we got to make him tackle. You got to be closer. You got to be closer.

I was always told you cannot look until you can reach and touch him with your hand. That's what I'm saying. He should be driving his man right there. We should not be seeing his eyes. He's looking at the quarterback. Like, no, that's your man. You need to be driving your cover.

That's what you taught, like bad eyes. He should be, they're going to be taking films of him looking at the quarterback. I was taking some screenshots to ask him I got to send to you to be like this. This is like he's watching TV. He's sitting there watching the quarterback, throw the ball to his man. Yes. That put us down 12 to 3 now.

Stillers come back out there. They get a couple plays, do nothing. Hell, we almost get a pick. I think we had a drop pass too. Drop Calvin Austin, drop the slant, just in the end, the hands that and that you so into half 12 to 3 i'm just like all right cool it i mean it could have been far better it actually could have been worse you know could have been way no worse charges get the ball you know in the you know in the second so first play it's a false start

but we turn around to give it right back to him with all right back we stuffed the run you know what You know what I'm saying? Then we stuffed it, bro. DJ basketball. Yeah. We get a, we get a, what is it? Was it third? Third and eight? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was a little, they hit us with a little band-a-man. We got, we got a little, you know what I'm saying? Browbrow. We got a little rub. That ain't tripping. I ain't tripping. That happens sometimes. I ain't tripping.

I was, yes, yes. We stuffed the run on the first time. Second down, another nice press break. Come on, Pierre. No question, bro. And then close it out. He was third down. Sack.

Yes, that's what we do. They punt the wrong. Highsmith, coming in. See a quarterback crying, bro. He could grab you however you want you. Like, shut up. Man, he's something like he grabbed, bro, you can get ganked up by here. There's something like it was the back.

Anyway, I don't even care nothing about that. You know what I'm saying? Stillers get the rock back. Anyway, that first time run? Yeah. What do you do? A leap. A little.

A little. A little. Boy, it looked like he was doing high hurdles out there. he both smooth too inscribe yeah then we get to the third down we get sucked again four men four they ain't even blitzin this man they ain't even blitzing us man third and third and two yes they ain't even blitzing us bro we got to punt the rock oh we get back out there defense got a hold we got a hold what the what the first play this that's the same way

what what 18 next play they get 12 again who's 95 binton what's his name deep four yards deep again at the end of the plate

clap his head clap your hands for what you should have to play, can't be sitting back there. It's like we got a D-Lyman playing midway in between the linebackers and the D-line. You say he getting pushed back. He was four yards deep before he got off the ball, before he got off the block. The other one where Slate got hurt, it was about three yards. Yeah, okay, okay.

I thought you was talking about he was kind of trading and then he was going to push backwards. He was getting pushed back. Okay. Okay. And they got another run at eight. Herbitt come through, though. He get that tackle for a loss. Yeah.

He made that play. Uh, gave him that. You think I'm going to have to go out, but I don't, uh, come to it. Cam come through with a Paul. B.B.U. We're able to hold them. We're able to hold them to a field goal. It's three to 15.

I ain't even lie right now. I ain't really feeling. I'm not feeling it at all. I'm glad the defense is still able to, like, not Ben, but don't brain, not trying to give up no touchdowns, but on the offensive side of the ball, we got to do something.

No, quite. We need something. We go out there. We do three and nothing. You know, we're out of there. Chargers get back out there. They move it to look. That is the third time.

We ain't got no, I mean, we ain't got nobody looking at him. He gone. what do you do 15 you got 15 on that scramble I think it was third and four was it third and 14 I think you got like 12 you got 12 dude I don't know what it was

anyway dude we ended up I think getting a getting a holding call they held us sorry they held us and then high smith come through for us on the second second down get the sack okay

they uh they ended up having to, you know, attempt to field goal. They missed the field goal. I'm feeling a little optimistic, but not really. I ain't really like you. Like, I'm just, I'm trying to see something come from the offense that are giving me some, some hope, you know what I'm saying? And we're hoping because we have good field position.

And we got a whole fourth quarter left. They just missed that. 45 y'all line. Let's go. Yeah, so we can still do this. Let's get the rock. I think Warren went about 11. Boom.

That was, okay. Cool. That next proceeding. first down hit fry moose fire move for almost another first by nine yes warren gets the little and breaks tackles first down get 18 on them yes third down we get pressured again we get a high pass fourth down i don't know what we're thinking just trying to hope dk could make a play like they were over top of this dude all day he always had too man we need another receipt He always does.

That's what you said. That's what you said to Dribo. We skipped over on the third down on the high pass. Like, he flinched. Dude, there were so many high passes, bro. They just blend together. The one, I mean, it was just again. It was just another bad habit.

And he flinched on him. Like, he was standing right there, a game where it was wide open. You got to just deliver that. Do you know what I'm saying? He flinched and then through the journal all high in the air. Like, that's not A-Rod. Those aren't. Oh, no.

We ain't going to get a performance like this. again. That got to be his worst game in his career ever. No, got to be. We turned the ball over on. Turn the ball over. Then it was the bad, like you said, the D.K. Medcap ball, that's a bullet fade ball. If that's D.K., at least give him a little back shoulder in the air to your big man. Like, he threw the joint on the line. You know what I'm saying? I don't even think that would have mattered, dude. It was like two, three other people over there. We were just, we were

just shooting up for a hope and a prayer, man. I know. I know, but God, hey. Chargers get the rock back, though. I think they went 15 on the first play. We missed tackles. And then, oh, third down. Oh, man. We don't let,

we don't let him man. We don't let this man go 58 on him. McCunky. And that was man to man. He was right there. He was right there. Why? Put it in the pocket.

When that happens, what's the next thing you do? do. Short a tackle, right? Yes, yes. If you're not going to, if you're not going to, you got to go with the left hand and at least have the right hand just in case you miss.

Right. You put both of them in there and didn't get nothing around. It didn't get nothing. Here and here. Or at least. Yeah, no, no, no, for sure. Yeah, they can't do that. You've got to show up the tackle. Next play, bro.

You can't get you for 58. I think they end up, what was it, 11? on next play and then he ran another one right after that touchdown right after that back the damn game is over with bro it's 20 is it right there turned to a three score game debaub so it's it's 20 what 22 to 3 now 22 to 3 still let's get back out there again we get a tip pass interception right in his hands though dang anyway charters get out there stood as able to force was it three and out with the help of a holding penalty that we got punt the ball

they punt the ball to us right? Yep, yep. We must have to punt, bro. Why was dude standing there after he hit it like he was backing up trying, huh?

You just hit the ball that's live. Go get it. Go get it. Instantly. Instantly, yes. Yes. Go get it.

Yes. He started trying looking cool. What was that? What's the ball already hit you? No, I don't know. That was crazy. Dude, it was like we just fell apart.

As soon as the fourth quarter hit, like, they end up defense able to stop or hold, you know, somehow. Yep. It's 20, 25 or three. They was able to hold because, I mean, the field position, they could have got a field goal from there. So they went tackle for loss, tackle for loss, doing what they could, 3015. Yeah, dude, they really don't matter from there, man. It's just trash time after that.

We end up scoring a touchdown. It's, and game ends 25 to 10 or something, dude. Like, that, bro, defense, defense, we can definitely play better. Situationally, for sure, we got to be able to hold up in the run game, period. We got to play situationally better. When you get beat, it ain't nothing wrong with getting beat, but go on head, don't let him go on ahead and get yak after it. Like, when we had a good game all together, what we started to do five times,

I think he only had, what, 225, 220 on 33 attempts, 115 Russian total. We only gave up 315, 314 yards as a whole defense. Like, it was good. But we have to play situationally better. We can't let people get off. those runs that we let them get off. Get off those passes, those big plays, the chunk plays, especially when the game is close like that.

Like, we can't do that. And they're like, why are y'all on the defense? Because I play defense. The same reason, I'm pretty sure the defense will be on themselves. If you talk to any of those guys, they go be on their cells. They know what they left out there. Everybody know what they left out there. And the offense, yo, was trash.

We were super trash. We was trapped. Aaron made the worst. that he has played probably his whole career okay and he knows that like that would he was pressured all night when he didn't you know what I'm saying uh get pressured we had high throws when you know he was able to get the ball to the receivers we had drops like the old line is bad period we need I don't even think we completed a third down to like the third down to like the third quarter sometime dude like Rogers was 16 or 31 for 16161 yards that don't

happen and on top of that there are six of 66 six completions for 66 yards and a touchdown of that came at trash time other than that got two picks three sacks pressure to all night um which what you expect to happen. The Charter's defense ain't like that. They ain't like that. We need help. And it's too late. Too late to get help.

Especially on the office, it's too late. Trade that line. I feel like what you said was correct, Debo. I think A. Rod, this might have been one of his worst games. Defensively, I wasn't as upset. Same thing you said, too. You have to eliminate the big plays. the man the man's, the eye disciplines, the gouges, the run game, we did good,

but when we needed to do it most, like we can't let them still get those 11-yard explosive runs, winning on first down, being able to control the clock and hold the ball that long. I wasn't as mad at them, though, because, I mean, defense, they know what they had to do. No question. They did back. They got to stop that. They did a whole lot better, make it not been, but don't break.

We got a force three, four, five, six turnovers to win a game. That's when I'm that. You're on offense? Come on, man. That's the part that I'm trying to get to you, too, where defense knows, like you said, them boys looking in the mirror, they can't, no, we can't let them. He shouldn't have had that type of rushing attack on them on this day. You know what I'm saying?

But the offense, how bad they played, brother, like, that's not normal. You know what I'm saying? So defense, you still can go back and do better. But offense, like, dropping passes, wide open passes, A-Rod, we can't have you performing like. this at all. I don't expect people to perform like that again. Me either. At the same point,

we still need to improve on the offensive side of the ball. Like, we're getting, for sure, for sure. That's not, that's not, like, for, come on, man. The dropping open passes and not, like, we're not good enough to drop open passes. Like, making the simple thing. I'm talking about, like, we're not asking you to go jump over. somebody and make a head top we're actually you to catch a slant ball we're actually you to just you know what i'm saying not drop that and then a ron with this team that you have we know we don't

have like you said the other like dk's the number one we need we need no we ain't got no two we got we got we need a real life no we don't our two our two is washington and and fire in fire movie they linked over dk all night dude the safety actually just sat on that side a couple times he ain't even try and disguise it no no for sure i mean because they know if you eliminate that deep there's no other threat for real i love how we're going to run the ball hell no we can't do that consistency to save our life no no and then we're trying to get the ball out quick they wish it that was that that that was tough i mean but i only reason why i'm not as mad though because the defense i was joey porter junior they stepped up he didn't have any penalty

He was locked in. He made some past breakups. He could have caught the pick, but was in the right places, making tackles. You know what I'm saying? So I love the way he stood up to the challenge. Jalen Ramsey out there performing.

Certain people are definitely, they're stepping up, but it's like offense too. It's not a defense certain people. It's a defensive team. I don't know. I feel you. I feel you.

Now you go with that loser shit again, Joe. You're looking for the silver lining. Ain't no silver lining. We lost. No, no, a thousand. But what you're going? going to do? What you're going to do? I'd be tripping.

You'd be tripping sometime. I wouldn't go get mad either. I said, I said, I ain't going to get mad. I said, listen, defense played well. I said, yes, we could play situation. It is. But I get into the conversation. I don't know why I get so emotional. You start building up.

I don't know what it is. Dude, I started spinning. Yeah, you're really passionate, Du Bo. And I appreciate it. I appreciate the passion. Man, let's talk about something good, man. The Brown's lost. How did y'all do?

Oh, my gosh. man what happened with the brown man what happened with the browns i ain't i get a chance to watch it because i didn't see that they only got uh they got a negative eight yard series on that first one i didn't see that what happened uh with the browns i know y'all lost i know cleveland got the ball first and um like i said i didn't watch the game because i just didn't watch the game because i figured you know the first you know series they went out there they ended up with a total of negative eight yards but i didn't watch the game you know what i'm saying but you know the defense went out there and did a nice three and out. But go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. You go ahead. Debo, so, yeah, the Browns game, actually, it was actually crazy. I'm not going to lie to you.

We started off with the first play, like you said, running on the first play, you know, great. Start off the game, first down run. You know what I'm saying? Holding. On the first play of the game, you can't make it up. second play of the game draw you know what I'm saying we get a quick quick three and out

how many yards are getting on that not a lot I think it was I think it was I know it makes me feel good you want to stay you want to have why you not always stay specifics and then

Brown's defense Brown's defense goes out there and does exactly what they're supposed to do and what they normally do they go out there perform get a quick ass three and out You know what I'm saying? Do it exactly with jets out there looking crazy.

So punt the ball, yeah, Browns get the ball, right? And then this is the first drop. We start looking good, driving the ball down. You know what I'm saying? A couple of good passes, couple of grounds. Dog pound, woo, I mean, keep. Go here. Dog pound, woo, you know what I'm saying?

Dog pound stand up. Get down, end up getting a touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown. My man. Dylan Gabriel, throws a touchdown pass, you know what I'm saying? Little touchdown pass to my man, uh, Joku, Dave Joku. Let's get past that touchdown.

What's next? No, no, no, no, no. We're going to take our time on that. Hold, whoa, whoa, whoa, wow, wow. Browns up, okay, go ahead. Browns up 7-0. Because before I could finish celebrating my touchdown, we kicked the ball off and they run it back 99 yards.

I know, I know how to do that, too. I did one 100, but go ahead. They ran the job. They ran the ball back on this, Debo, 99 yards. for a kickoff return. So it is now seven to seven. Seven to seven. You know what's so crazy, Joe?

Defense ain't even touched the field. Defense touched the field one time. I'm saying. They ain't touched the field on that score. Oh, no. Exactly. Didn't touch the field at all and points on your head top.

Go ahead, Joe. So that's not a good feeling as a defense. You know what I'm saying? I know what it feels like. See that right there? That's how I ran that back on them. Boy, see that the thing you say pick six right there.

Yeah, here. See that right there? You see it right there? Yeah, go ahead. Anyway, Joe, go ahead, Joe. So, yeah, Browns get the ball back. You know what I'm saying? We get a first down, nice thing overrouted Judy. You know, after the overrouted the Judy, kind of.

I ain't going to lie to you, man. I think, I think y'all went like a three-in-out right there, me. Yeah, we did because we got a false start. Yeah. Look, we was ready to look. I didn't watch it, though. I'm just going. I think I saw it.

I mean, I don't know. Go ahead. But what happened next, Joe? I didn't see it. We went three passes. I'm thinking something good at. I mean. No, three passes, three passes, three plays, zero yards, and we punt.

And when we punt, they run the punt back, too, Debo. Both the kickoff return, then the pump return. What do you do? And look, we got a flag, too. So I'm thinking at least it's going to be something on them. They're going to call it back. So, y'all. They didn't give her.

The pump return. and we got the flag. Yes, up. So, double-wammy. Seven-14. Down 14 to seven. To the Jets. And our defense has been on the field

for a total of three plays. Yes, sir. Okay. So that, it's not looking good. It's not feeling good. What do do when they get the ball back, though? I want to know. We get a first down.

You know what I'm saying? We don't just finish the drive. We get a first down. I kind of heard that you might have went on, went for it one time on like a fourth down that next position? No, we actually didn't go forward on fourth down. I thought you kind of went for it. It's even worse.

We tried to go for. Yeah, that's what I heard. We were about to go for. It was fourth and two. And we get a flag which drops us back to fourth and seven. And then we... What did you get a flag for? Hold on a little more left for. Was it a false start, though? Foss start. It was a false start, Bebo.

It's a, yeah, pre-snap. That's what I heard. False start, probably. Yeah, that's just. Yeah, that's just not, not good ball. Undisciplined football. We started getting a little bit of something going. Yeah.

Misery love company, you know that, right? Yeah, guess what, though? Then the Brown's defense comes back out there. And my man, because you know what? That vaulted Brown's defense you talk so much about. That vaulted Brown's defense, you know, Justin Fitt, he'd come out there. And I'm thinking that he's standing in the pocket,

no pressure. He throws the ball full speed, hits Hickman, right in between the, three and a three. Boom. Pick instantly. Brown's great field position. So now, okay, boom, the Brown's defense puts them

in great field position for the Brown's offense to get out there. Little do you know. This is what I'm, and this is no disrespect. Dylan Gabriel comes out there first play.

Boom, little scramble, and he throws a 22-yard pass to a touchdown to June, right? I'm happy. I love it. But at the same time, I'm looking at Dylan Gabriel. And when he throws his ball,

and when he throws his ball, I love it. Keep him in there. It's a 22-yard pass, and it looked like he almost threw his shoulder out of his socket. Like, it did not look like, it looked like it was like a heave from a 22-yard pass. And it was like, oh, when he throws a dart, I'm like, that was no dime like that. It still was like, I'm just like, it just doesn't look good. But I'm happy that he's through that touchdown passes.

Now we had two touchdown passes. Okay, the score is tied up now. 14. Tied up 14, 14, 14. We back evening. We don't. We back even. We're all done.

I don't know why I keep saying we. Thank you, Debo. I appreciate you. You can be in this one with me. Misery loves company. Misery loves company. Listen, I want you to be miserable too because I don't, I don't went through my misery already. Join me, brother.

Listen, so go ahead. It's back even 1414. What did that vaulted rounds defense do when the Jets got back out there? They bended, but they did not break. They cracked. So they can. cracked they cracked they're a little kink in the armor you know what i'm saying obviously they did 11 plays 64 yards they really started they did the run game they started toting it Bryce Bryce was

toting he started getting a little involved okay so that was what that was what it was and they we ended up holding them to kick a field goal so you're down now okay you're down now that vaulted defense gave up three points I think they I think I think I think they let him drive 64 yards to get there too but go ahead yeah they did it did well yeah yeah But that's, but come on, man. They've been bawling out, Joe. It's okay. It's okay.

One time. One, okay. Then what we get here? Cleveland, you get the ball back. We get the ball back. Tried in the drive. We get sacked. We get, we get sacked on 3rd or 17.

We end up putting it. It's fourth and 26. Joe, this is what happened. You end up tying it up at halved time. No, no, no. Because, you know, we didn't adjust it at the ball. We got another three and out there. That don't matter. That don't matter. That don't matter.

That don't matter. You go in a half time, 17.7. Y'all actually get a field goal. Okay. It's okay, Joe. It's okay. I can't stand. I can't stand. So it's okay. You can't hold on to it the whole time. You can't hold on to it the whole time. Okay? So you get back out there and you know what you do in the third quarter.

Y'all do nothing. You do absolutely nothing. Nobody does anything. Until a nice short little pass. What happened, Joe? Go ahead. I'll let you take off from there. I think it was about 42 yards.

I didn't watch it, though. I didn't watch it, though. I didn't watch it, though. I didn't watch it. They're doing nothing. They're not pissing the drop. That vaulting defense. Just the field.

Go ahead. Throws a screen pass that goes 42 yards for a touchdown pass. That, yeah, that, that, I mean, Debo. The man threw for 42 yards in the whole game. They gave up one touchdown pass. I'm not as. Like, okay, like, what do you want? They can't give up nothing? Zero?

I mean, situationally, you should stand up there. Situationally. I'm just saying vaulted defense is times when you got to stand up. You know, that's one of them. They was on the sideline and 14 points was giving up. Hey, I told you, that's why I told you. We back even half time. Everybody zero, zero.

Put in your work. Yep. They put it at work. You're right. They shouldn't have gave up a school. They shouldn't have gave up a school. When you're on a dean, when you're on a team like this and you're fighting for your life and you're trying to get wins,

you can't give up nothing. You can't give up nothing. 24, 17. Who up? Who up? Who you think is up, Debo? We up. The Jets up.

The Jets. The Jets up. Browns get the ball, man. Kick off. They get down there. Don't really do too much and nothing. Mm-hmm. Hey, I think I'm hearing something about what you say?

what the football guys say they say they they went for a fourth and one what happened on that fourth and one joe joe are you there joe no i'm losing i'm losing oh oh i think somebody got sack turned over on downs i don't know i'm just hearing this from the universe bringing it to me because i didn't watch it yes i'm just hearing this long sort of short dbo let's just get to the gritty we end up getting the ball back they get they get they get the field goal, we get the ball back at the end of the game. Let's talk about that defense at the end. Let's talk about that, that defense that vaulted Brown's defense that couldn't stand. Mental, mental, no, yeah, it's mental errors. Devon, we got, we get a holding call and then

we get a false start just to hit us where it really hurts. Even though we're down seven, with a chance to get the ball back and at least see what can happen. But we don't even get a chance because of two two extended flags on third nine which don't even let us go out there so it was just bad it was just bad

who allows themselves to jump off sides on fourth and four when you know they're not even going to run a play who who who

that's that's it's okay it's okay it's okay it's okay but you know Stavansky says, hey, I am going to stick with my quarterback. You know?

I mean, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm geek because, I mean, I don't want your door to go in and have to play the Ravens his first game. So it's going to be there. I'm rooting for my man. Nope. Nope.

I don't care. What team you wanted to play, Joe? Not the Ravens. Not the Ravens. Not the Ravens. Who they play after the Ravens? Boy, Cleveland got issues over there. The whole special team sold.

You know what I'm saying? They sold it out for them, boy. That was, it's just, look, Debo, sometimes, and it's not even like the special teams has never been, like, my man, Bubba Ventron is the coach. They've never been that. They're not that bad. It's just when, when it rains, it pours. We don't find something that's going to get, that's going to happen that was going to end up being bad. So it's not like we're trying.

Like, we're trying to my do, and they're not trying to lose. The dudes aren't trying, and I don't think that the special teams is that bad. But on these, on particular games, we're going to find a way to lose to the Jets. When Justin Fields throws for 42 yards and they rush for, they have a total of 169 yards, total offense. Oh, no question. The defense, like, only a couple of plays, like we said, like, they ran into the couple and, like, ended up getting, you're going to make plays because you're a professional team. But we're going to find a way to somehow lose. gave up 14 without the defense being on the field.

They gave up 13 points as a defense, you know what I'm saying, while they were out there. Yeah, I understand. I understand. When you're out there, you got to, you know, you got to do it. You got to. It's okay, man. I'm going to let you get out of this misery and I'm going to let you talk about some other people's miseries, man.

So the lines went on out there and, you know, they went on head and dog, walked them boys over there, the commander. That was crazy. They scored on every possession. But the last one where they knelt down, bro. Gibbs was 142 Russian plus 30 more receiving. Two tugs. Hell, my dude David Montgomery, he added another 71.

They was 226 total Russian. Golf went on ahead was 25 for 320, three tubs. I think he was like 135, 135, 136 quarterback rating. And then, remember when the old. O.C. said he felt like he was doing a disservice to Williams because he wasn't using him better, right? He? Yes. He went on

here and Dan said, I'm going to take over the play calling, just give it a little different feel. That boy went out there, six for 119. Whoa. And ain't nobody mad. Ain't nobody upset. Ain't nobody in their feelings. They don't care about who gets the credit as long as

we win. That's over there, what they got over there in Detroit, what they coaches is doing, how they do it, how they operate to it. Dude, it is masterful, dude. Yes, it is. And then you got, hang, this dude goes and punches St. Brown. Are you out of your mind, dude?

Are you out of yours? You just got yourself suspended for a game. And, like, I don't even care about the, like, like the punch. Like, okay, like, you could have broke your whole hand, been done. Like, I'm not losing it to where I'm a. actually take a punch at a helmet? He threw that joint, like he was trying to sneak buddy and knock him out. He threw it like- He tried to get to the chin, too.

I tried to hit him in his chin, bro. Bro, that was crazy. You have a tale of two different franchises and situations going on right there. Like, the way that the lions are moving, is unbelievable. Love to see it. Golf, the running game. Everybody, like,

Arborant-State Brown, you see the dude blocking, too, like Williams, and the way does a coach, like you said, you want to play for a coach like that that's going out there and be like, no, I need to get my dude the ball. He wasn't complaining,

and next thing you know, he feeds him because he knows he's a baller and it can make our team successful, and it's going to get, make my man good. So Vibs is on 1,000 over there. They're moving the ball, just the everything, the running game, the linemen, the receivers, the quarterback, the coaching

staff, the defense, they're flying around. Everybody looks like they're enjoying it. For sure, dude. They're playing for each other. You don't see, no, everybody's worried about who gets the credit long as we win. It's, dude, it's no ego. It's a beautiful thing, bro. It's a beautiful thing.

And the way to the coach, man, they keep talking about, man. I'll go ahead, take over the play call in 530. six total yards, they just moving it. That was... And like he said, it wasn't like I was just calling it,

I was just calling it, I was still getting input for the OC. I was getting an input from other guys. Like, we wanted to try something different. Get it worked.

What are we talking about? It worked. It's nothing. Hey, I like how they do it over there. I think a lot more people should look into it, see how they do it, and try and approach it the same way

all the way from how they do with what they do with their players to how they hired their coaches. The coaches being former players that played in the positions that they're coaching so that you have automatic buy-in and nobody's worried about who's getting the credit because at the end of it, long as we winning, everybody's going to have success. And that's how you get other people out and you get your coaching tree bigger and everything else, though. Mm-hmm. 1,000% they're doing the right way I do.

Let's get over here to Germany, man. Is that Germany that? we was at? Yes, sir. The coach, they beat the Falcons. 35. No, 31 to 25 in overtime. You know I played in Germany, Ryan fired Dusseldorf, Germany, NFL Europe. Yeah, bro. Yeah, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to show you. I'm going to have to show you that sooner or later. But, yeah, no, send me to say. Taylor went crazy, bro. The boy was 32 for 244 Russian. God. Russian and added another 42 receiver. bruh, out of control.

Definitely an MVP conversation. Thousand percent. He had to get them yards back. From when the Steelers, man, stood it. Then he didn't get none. He had the average. He had to balance it out. Oh, no question.

Had a couple receivers, I think, had almost 100. I think Pierce had 84. Warren had like 99. And then, shit, Taylor was the third. Highest rushing receiver, sorry, receiving receiver in the game. 519, 520 yards of total offense, bro. Like, this is a good thing and a bad thing, bro. Like, you won the game 31 to 25 in overtime.

But your running back had to throw up almost 360 yards by itself. And you still got in there and had to go overtime to get it done. Like, that's good and bad. That's a lot of offense going through one person. man I just love the fact that I mean you got them on your team he's the bell cow

you just knowing you got that I understand but it's the it's the falcons it ain't like you was playing something man they tried to look man you say you got to do you got to get it how you live

you know what I'm saying they got Daniel Jones they got Pierce they got them tight ends whatever but if that's what's getting it done for this game for this particular game this is what we're going to have to do

I'm not I'm not mad at it I ain't mad at it, but that's a lot. That's a lot of offense going through one person. And a lot of the time, that's what you're saying. It's a lot of offense going through him. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know if you. Bro, but at the same time, when Dombs, when they came to us and they played against the Steelers,

he gave it to Alec, Alec, them two, Pearson and Baltimore. And what happened? Two receivers, they both six catches and nine catches for one 15 apiece. So, I mean, he could do, they, them dudes could still get off. Them receivers still not. I don't understand that, but when he don't get off, it don't look too good. Man, if you got Jonathan Taylor. I said, that's right.

I'm just saying, like, he had been hurt in the past. Like, it's a lot of ball running through him, dude. No, no, no, for sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? You know what, man. A lot of season left. Debo, man, they're going to ride that, man, JT. You tripping.

Bro, they go ride that time to the wheel fall off, bro. For sure. To the wheels fall off. Yo So, listen Buffalo went out there and got hands put on their ass

by the Dolphins Man, like I see The Dolphins' most Unexpected team in the league, bro. You don't know what you're in. Tour was fighting

trying to keep them in there too, though. Toa be like, nah, man, here, take this, get a pick on it. Like,

I want to have a fight. Like, I, dude. I don't, Yeah, I don't, I don't know what to think of the Dolphins no more, man. I don't, I don't up, down, like, I don't do. Then the head coach, I guess he took off and rolled past, what was it,

over there, and trolling the fans, I guess, going past and taking a video of them. The Bills Mafia out there and some bars over there. So we got the video or something. Yeah. Do we got that? The picture. I got a picture of them. there you go

in that Matt Black yeah in that Matt Black Bentley thing looking sweet dude I don't

I don't know what I don't know what to think they could do it they just they just can't consistently do it I don't know

what's going on over what you think's going over there in Miami man I don't believe I would I would I would have

I would have good money they ain't have a chance that they was going lose, right? But, you know, Debo, that's the one thing know about it. Any given Sunday, because these dudes, at the end of the day, everybody's professional. You know how that is. You have players on your team. Nobody's trying to go out there and lose. Every dog, every dog has his day, right clock is wrong. You know what I'm saying? So they could have underestimated. They

could have came in there thinking it was a trap game. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think, and I don't believe in the consistency of the dolphins being able to do that. No question. tour. Of course. I just, I mean, not really a fan. I appreciate them coming out there and fighting, you know what I'm saying? Because they're NFL players. That's why, like, dudes, the eye on the sky, don't lie. Right. You are what your tape is. If you're out there putting out bad tape, that means you're a bad football player. So you might not play anymore. So, like, any game of Sunday dudes come out there and look like a ball, it's because they're professionals. That's what they're supposed to do. I'm going to make sure this dude doesn't go, I'm

win my one-on-ones. You know what I'm saying? So I think those games can happen. Dudes come out there and just ball out, but consistently being like, no, this was who we are, I don't, I don't see it. Well, you add that with the combination of probably the bills was looking past them, too. You know, that happens, too. The Marcus Lawrence went out there and beat Arizona in the first half.

He outscored him 14 to 7. No, he got two fumble recovery. for touchdowns, one of 34 and one of 22. I think it was like 38 to 7 at the half, ended up being 44 to 22. Yeah, the game was over with before it even started, bro. Oh, yeah. I know that's a good feeling.

I had two picks in the game. I never had two touchdowns. I had pick six in the game, two picks, but never two defensive touchdowns. I can't say I did that either, brother. I cannot say I did that either. Yeah. And do.

He spas. go over here to Tampa, bro. The Patriot is looking real, bro. This, man, Drake May. To help. I like Drake Mae. Oh, don't get wrong. He was in there.

He was standing in that pocket dog. He was making them throws, bro. Like, just not knowing this spot to come. He about to get Bob and making them on the money, though. That's what I'm talking about. We're making sure only his guy can get it, bro. Yes, Steve, Bo. Again.

Again, Henderson, that boy was 14, 147, two long TD, 69 and 55. Like, hey, he, he ran that. Listen, it don't hurt. Right now, me and the season coach of the year, Mike Vable, period. Mike Vrable. Look what he took.

What was they last year? Two and three and something? Yeah, they were. They were not sniffing this. And the game really wasn't even that close. It was 28, 23, but it really wasn't even that close because they, Tampa really scored, you know, one of those trash touchdowns with like, you know, a minute and a half left in the game, you know, they went on ahead, you know, you preventing and all that.

But then what, bruh, and he looking, dude, he making, and I'm talking in his face throws that he got to put on the money, dude. That's the thing. that I'm saying, what you're saying right there is making you, me believe, that's why I'm seeing the same thing. We're seeing the exact same thing. Drake May is standing there in the heart, in the eye of the storm and throwing the lead pass, like, to the running,

he doesn't have to slow down at all. He's running full speed, he catches it in the deep, like if he threw it behind him a little bit, it'd be a break up, it might be picked. But he's standing in the eye, leaving him getting smacked. And he's, no one does this coming. He don't care, and he's throwing it right ahead

where he can catch it and run and turn up feet. He's throwing them in stride, right? He's throwing them in stride. So it's, and it's not just one time. It's a lot of times. And he's in the dig routes, crossing routes. Yes, it's different throws. I like this.

Overshoulders, bro. Deep ones, short ones. I love it. I love it. Yeah. That's the true signs of a quarterback. He's not scared when you know you're going to get hit. He's not flinching up.

And I know Avera's a lot older, but just the ones when he was flushing up, throwing it high. Because I know he's older. And those wearing hair, those hits. Hey, hey, those hits feel different at you. Believe me, I know, bro. I know. And I was doing the hitting, bro. Listen, I never did, bro.

I went to jump over a dude. You know, now you got to jump over a dude. Get out the way you can't hit him back. When I first started, man, I just plow into him. Man, I went to jump over this dude, man. Somebody hit my feet and I landed flat on my back like that. And I was like, oh, my God. I ain't never felt this.

Take me now. Give me a body. brother rams went on ahead and jumped on the uh jumped on the 49ers it was uh 42 26 stafford got into him yeah he went on head and went 24 uh for 284 touchdowns i think the first half was 14 for like 7 175 2 20s it was 21 nothing before they even really knew what happened i think halftime 21 to 7 And then really, I think they started going back and forth. Jones ended up throwing a pick somewhere in between that third,

fourth quarter that really just allowed them to jump back up. And it was really overweight from there. I rock with Matthew Stafford, man. Like you said, he's throwing now 22 touchdown. They swap quarterbacks, too. And both of them doing well. Yes. That's crazy.

Yes. I think both of the teams got great. both of the teams got great ends of the deals on the trade. I think the Rams, Matthew Stafford, for me, showing he's been in here since 2009, bro. First overall pick. Josh Freeman was drafted in that draft class, and he's still just in here consistent and being able to go now to the Rams. I think when people say, like, a lot of the yards and Pro Bowls, I think this could be

the year, but he can get show that he can get an MVP, you know what I'm saying, and really lead a team too, because he's been doing it for a long time, but when you do it losing, people don't believe you know what I'm saying like look at it no question so I wonder I'm glad he can show that it's not it wasn't really him if you get a team around him get a defense like he can it's not his bad he's 22 with two picks right now like leading it up there in MVP race so I always just appreciate it his the way he can throw the ball different angles and you know what I'm saying like you said he'll stand down the eye of the bills and make sure he's he's throwing the ball leading him right on the money so he won them quarterbacks yeah yeah I agree he's a candidate to being that in that end VP discussion for sure. Monday night football, we got coming up, dude, the Eagles. We got the Packers, Eagles and the Packers. What is it? Six and two Eagles, five and, five, two and one Packers.

They did that, they did that. They did that at a time. They did that at a time. Yeah, for sure, for show, for show. Hold up, brother. Hey, we got a super chat, though. Lisa Mike's 191, donated 20 bucks and said, can you do a live show for a game, please?

blessings to you and your family amen yes thank you blessings can we do a live show joe should we do a live show joe for a game the reaction let's talk about that joe you think we should do that let's talk about that man you know i'm gonna be honest with you don't know Lisa Lisa Lynch i don't if i could do a live show because my live reactions may not be condo exclusive to Devo, I guess that's not true. I think it might be

No, no, no, because I say what I feel right then and there before I get a chance to me and you first, we got to do and then change my words to say exactly what I said before, but I said in a more corrective way

and not a derogatory personal attack way. You just need that, you know what you need? We could do it with a delay, like a little delay. No? So we can edit. Maybe, maybe.

You know what I'm saying? Something like that. We'll figure it out. We will be live, Lisa, we will be live from Super Bowl in San Francisco, though. We'll be live there. Yes, we will. Come on down. Come on.

We will be there live. So you can get to see it right then and they're live. It won't be an actual game. everybody come on out. We're ready or row. That's where we're going to be. Wherever it's going to be, we're going to let y'all know where we go be

and we go be there all week. We might be a few other places. We might, you know, we might make a stop, a few stops here and there. Just a few pop-up. Let you all see everything, get it going. Hey.

Don't hollat D'Bow and Joe, man. You never know. You never know. Hey, Joe, what you say? You never know. We may even let's all ask some unclear live questions from your mouth.

Right then. there. I ain't saying we're going to answer it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But we may let you ask them. No, for sure. Definitely going to let you shoot you try.

Look here, man. We're running a little over right now. We want to thank you guys, man, again, for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe, man. We're looking forward to seeing you guys tomorrow as we review that. Monday night football with the Eagles and the Packers. Joe? Yep. Thank you guys for coming, man.

Make sure you come out here and hollered us tomorrow, where we would get that breakdown of the Packers v. the Eagles game. Let's get it. We're out.