Nightcap - Jim Jones & Unc Rap BEEF + Bun B Top 10 Texas Rappers

Episode Date: July 6, 2025

Shannon Sharpe clashes with Jim Jones over the Nas debate in a heated Nightcap moment! Hip-hop legend Bun B reveals his Top 10 Texas rappers of all time, and West Coast icon Ice Cube makes a special appearance. 0:00 - Jim Jones starts beef with Unc?!?!?! 38:52 - Bun B on Timbaland using AI 45:10 - Top 10 Texas Rappers all time 53:16 - Ice Cube joins the show   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, I'm good, man. Life is good. God is good. I can't complain. Yeah. So talk to us a little about this music thing. You've been in this thing for a minute now. So talk about Jim Jones of 20 years ago, Jim Jones today.

Have you noticed anything different in the music industry? Have you noticed, have you tried to do anything different with your sound to keep up with the way the industry is headed? Oh yeah, the industry has changed tremendously from when I started. There wasn't no social media for one. When I started in 2003 with my first deal, even before that when Cam started with his

deal. So these kids got a bit of an advantage when it comes to marketing and promo that we didn't have. They had access to a lot of information that we didn't have. A lot of people say it works against us, but I think it works for us in watching the way that these kids work in the present day and things like that. I've learned a lot from them from how they carry their music, from how they sell their music,

from how they market and promote their music. Us as being here for so long, we tend to get caught up in our dinosaur ways from yesterday, how they carry artists, but that's not the way they carry artists today. So they're platinum artists that have their nose up because they're big platinum artists, but that's not the way they carry artists today. So they're platinum artists that have their nose up because they're big platinum artists, but that don't count in today's society. They don't carry it the same way. So what I've chosen to do was always chose to try to reinvent myself, but not to the point where I'm chasing, but there's a

medium that I reach because I always want to teach these kids, but I always want to learn some also. So, you know, that and what reinventing yourself, you got to be willing to be disciplined to know what direction you want to go in when it comes to reinventing yourself. You know what I mean? One of the things I credit do is the gym. The gym is one of the biggest attributes to me being able to sustain this long in the game. Sustainability is a, this is a mall for

Jim, let me ask you this. And I see this a lot in a lot, Jim, let me ask you this. And I hear this a lot and a lot, especially in music. And I see this with television and entertainment, actors, actresses, is like, man, every record that he put out, it sounds the same. Okay, he does something different. Man, he don't sound like the old guy. He don't sound like he used to, okay?

An actor, they try, actor, actors, they try to do a different role't sound like he used to. Okay, uh, an actor, they try actor, actors, they try to do a different role than what we're used to see him. Man, I like when he did that. I don't like, I don't like this new. So you want the guy to change. You want the individual to change and give you something different. And when they give you something different, you say they don't sound the same and you don't like it. So how does someone win? Now the person that, that I have the utmost respect for and what she's been able to do is Beyonce. Beyonce is as big as you can get in one genre.

And she says, you know what? I'm gonna go over here and I'm gonna do this. I mean, it takes some hustle. It takes some guts, Jim, to do that. I mean, she like Michael Jordan. When Michael Jordan left the NBA, he went to the, uh, to the, uh, MBL, the Major League and MLB. Yeah, he went to the Major League to try to play baseball.

He had to have a lot of guts, you know what I mean? Like same with like Deon, Neon, Deon, when he was playing football and playing baseball and being successful at the same time in both, in both of them sports. I mean, and that takes a lot of heart. I don't, I haven't seen anybody else do that successfully the way that Beyonce has done it. So I tip my hat to the barriers that she continued to break inside of this music industry. Yeah.

Hey, Jimmy, what you think right now about the state of hip hop, where it is right now? How do you feel about it, especially with the young dudes, with the sound now? Obviously, I think when it comes to rap in general, hip hop in general, I think the sound changes every 10 years. How do you, how do you see this era of hip hop right now that we're in? Do you like it? Have you embraced it? What? I mean, in my opinion, it doesn't matter because I had

my time where we were dictating the sound of music and we had a ball and there were older people that were hating on the time that we had and things like that. I encouraged these youngsters to be as creative as they can. As long as it's connecting with their crowd and the people are singing your shit and they're going to your shows, then who am I to say I don't like that music when they out here spanking shit, you know what I mean?

You do it, buddy. So it's like, you gotta find, you gotta stay true to yourself, but find your rhythm in the midst of what's going on. As you gonna be lost in the sauce, or you gonna be looking like an old dude, or you gonna be looking like a has-been, or you gonna be, you understand?

I'm not into that. My energy ain't flooded out, you heard? If I'm gonna be a contender in this game, I'm gonna play at the top of my ability to play. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna take no shortcuts enough, and I'm in it, I'm in it. That means I gotta contend with the younger boys,

I gotta contend with older boys, so that means I gotta come through stepping. They only no shortcuts enough and I'm in it, I'm in it. I mean, I gotta contend with the younger boys, I gotta contend with older boys, so that means I gotta come through stepping. They only respect violence, and not to say violence, but you know what I mean, like they gotta see that shit. You dig it? While I'm in the game, I'ma show them that shit. Like people don't get it twisted. Like I'm a man of many, many different things.

Like my rapper hat is one hat that I wear. But if I'm rapping and I'm in it, I'm in it. What's up? I'm going against all odds and what I gotta do to maintain or be a contender in this game and keep feeding my family and making the money that I make off this. And I mean, I think people get that twisted when they see me talking and popping my shit and shit like that. That's just one character that I gotta put out there

for y'all to eat up, you know what I mean? But I'm... How did... Matter of fact, hold on. I got, I got... Go ahead, go ahead, Otru. I'm electric, I'm electric, go on. I just, I saw some comments and stuff, and I'm like, I'm, I'm. How did. Matter of fact, hold on. I got, I got.

I'm electric. I'm electric. I just, I saw some, I saw some comments and saw a clip about, you know, and you and Push. I'm not sure if you and Push, you know, got any type of beef or whatever. I just saw something about you, you talking about the Ace Trumpets. You didn't like, you didn't like the album.

You didn't like the song. You know, what he raps about is not. I don't got no beef with, I don't got no beef with nobody. You know what I mean? Okay, okay, okay, I'm just asking. Half of it is my opinion, half of it is me bending the algorithm, half of it is feeding into people's simplicity

because the social media is for that, you know what I mean? And like I said, I'm a rapper in this game. It comes with the territory. You gotta be very competitive. There's a very competitive sport and you better have some thick skin. I ain't say nothing, I wanna hurt nobody, do nothing to nobody, everything.

I've been talking about, but strictly about the art of war when it comes to the music nowadays. Now maybe 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it would have been a different outcome of what I was, you know what I mean? What I was, I'm not on that. And I think a lot of that gets twisted in what the Jim Jones of today and things like that.

I ain't got no pounds or no body. I ain't got no opps, no nothing. And you know, it's part of me that I've been working on every day. So it's hard sometimes I talk way too fast than I should. You heard it? But that's part of the game. I don't care.

You dig? I hate it. I love it. I'm gonna turn it into a victory for me. Yes, sir. Check this out, Jim. It seems to me, since this past summer, well past last summer, when Kendrick had that diss, it seems like now people are just like,

you know, hey, we saw the success that Kendrick had, got five Grammys, he hosted a halftime show at the Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. We see a lot more dissing going on. Is that where we're headed now? Danny, where you been at? You don't remember Tupac? You seen the success that Tupac had? Yeah, but look- You see the success? What about Kumo? What about Kumo being LL Cool J? Yes!

This is a competitive sport. The rap is built on that. So Kendrick and Drake having what they have was no surprise to the rap industry. I mean, people look at it as something, but this is what the art of rap is about. It's a very competitive sport. And you gotta be ready to be on top of your game when it comes to that.

So if you put something out, you gotta be ready for the same energy to come back at you. That's what rap is about. Some people don't go down that lane, some people go around that lane, some people go right through it. I'm one of the people that go right through it. When I lose a drill, I keep the same face.

But hold on, hold on. Jim, Jim, bro, I'm not looking for you to come at me. I put you on, remember? I used to have you on my, I used to have, I used to use the tour with me. Used to open up with me, bro, you know? You remember that, right? When nobody was booking you, you remember that, Jim?

You heard this song, you heard this saying when rivals, I mean, idols become your rivals, that's what the rap game is about. Did Allen Iverson hesitate to shake Michael Jordan up when he got in the NBA? No. He ain't cross his ass up. Okay, cause he was on another team.

That might not stop the love he had for Mike, but while we on this battlefield, my team gotta win and I wouldn't have killed anybody that's in front of me for my team to win. And that was Allen Ives' attitude. You gotta understand what happens when you come into this game. Your idols become your rivals.

There's no passes when we on the other team. We meet you at the party, we can live pop champagne. But right now, while we on this field, while we on this court, oh, I'm coming to scrape shit out. Now, we can't pop no more champagne. You got people laughing at me, and guess what, they playing at the football games, they playing at the basketball game, not like us.

Oh, no, we can't pop no champagne after that, Jay. Oh, okay, okay. As a matter of fact, I'ma close the club down. Hey, if he coming, I ain't coming. I mean, but I just told you, that's what it is, is competitive sport, man. You gotta, it got different levels to it and things like that, but that's what this was built on.

You heard? So it's sad that it gotta go to such lengths when it comes to artists getting at each other when it comes to the music, but what you project is what you're gonna get. So just have that same energy you put out there because somebody coming right back at you with that same energy, sooner or later.

But let me ask you, let me ask you one more question, Ocho. So are we gonna get some new music because we saw you and Kam kind of going back and forth and the dip set coming back, y'all gonna link up together and give us some new music, yes or no? Right now, I'm worried about myself. Dip set is always dip set.

The birds still fly. I've been having a bird on my back for the past 15 years when nobody was worried about you things. So that's going to go. But right now I got to worry about me. I got to worry about my endeavors. I got to worry about my business. I got to worry about my family.

You dig? I've done a lot for diplomats where it didn't did me nothing at the time. But right now where I'm at in my life, what works for me and what I'm worried about is myself. I can't tell you what the future may hold or what the future may bring. I'm not taking nothing off the time. But right now where I'm at in my life, what works for me and what I'm worried about is myself. I can't tell you what the future may hold or what the future may bring. I'm not taking nothing off the table, you dig? But right now it's about Jim Jones. And yeah, I am a diplomat owner. Bet. Go ahead, Ocho. I like that. Listen, you took the question. I was finessed. And I think, you know what? History repeats itself, Jimmy. History always repeats itself.

And most of the time when history repeats itself, it comes back even bigger and better. I think diplomats, they're gonna have a reunion. I think y'all boys gonna reunite. And despite your differences, despite whatever situations y'all might have, you know, all that can be fixed behind closed doors, that ain't nothing but a conversation

that just got to be had. Especially when you're making that money. that just got to be had. Especially when you're making that money. Or a check, you heard? A nice check always calms things down, you heard? I'm not a stupid man, you heard? But I understand, man, but right now, where I'm at until that happens,

until some business can put on the table what's advantageous for all sides, right now I gotta worry about what Capo is doing. And it's been working for me that way. You know what I mean? I've been staying out of anybody's way a little bit. You know what I mean? Trying to, every day I work on me,

every day I get better and things like that. You think I'm unapologetic, you dig? And I don't have no regrets, you know what I mean? But I do work on myself every day. You know what I mean? I'm not a perfect man, you dig? But I'm the perfect example of what could happen if you stay down till you come up.

And that's what I did plenty of times. I got you. Jim, when like, look, you one of the OGs rap, I mean, hip hop is 50 years of age. You've been in this thing two decades. I ain't 50, I'm 48. I said hip hop is 50. I thought you was shooting it at me, my bad.

Nah, nah, nah. Hip hop is 50, but you've been in this thing for two decades, right? I've been in this thing, so yes, a little bit more than that. Since 1997 in Camel got his first deal so I'm like 28 years into okay so almost three decades yeah 100% and I've been signing my first deals two decades ago. How do you determine who you how do you determine who you work with now when you want to work with the young

artists how do you go about that how do you you like man work with now? When you wanna work with the young artists, how do you go about that? How do you be like, man, I kinda like him, I think we can make some beautiful music together. I mean, I hold no prejudice. I'm looking for great music and I'm looking for great aesthetic. Music is everything in today's world when it comes to music.

If you got a lifestyle that you can sell, these kids can buy into, that's just as good as having a great hit song and things like that. and that's how it worked for me so there's a combination of the things that I look for to work with the artists or to do business with the artists but as far as doing music with the artists and things like that obviously I'm a lover of music so if I hear a record that I think is dope and I think the artist is dope I'm gonna

reach out to them. How do you stay motivated? Y'all mute, we lost him. Yeah, I think we lost him. Oh, damn, that was good. I was enjoying that, bro. Hey, I'm thinking about rapping, man. Shoot, man. What you think? Oh, Ocho? What you gonna rap about now, Ocho?

Who, me? Yeah. Hey, I mean, I'm just saying, I'm gonna rap about things that I've experienced in life. You know, that's the best thing to rap about. That's what most rappers, they rap about the things that they've experienced. You know, the ups and downs, the good and the bads. You know, the W's, the L's. I think I could put it together.

You think so? Oh, there we go. the ups, the downs, the goods, the bads, you know, the W's, the L's, I think I could put it together. You think so? Oh, there we go. Oh, you back. Oh yeah. You look like a French painter with a little bit of biggie from Brooklyn with that on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just came from the south of France. I was down there for six days, so I just got back yesterday. Oh, that's the vibe. You still spilling. You still spilling. Yeah.

I'm still on my suave. Yeah, you still spilling that shit. I get it. I get it. I'm on that. Jim, what keeps you motivated at this juncture of the game? What gets Jim, makes Jim jump out of bed, press down hard as he can and press go.

What keeps you going? I will say the money, but I've been making money for a long time and opportunity to take care of my family. I've been doing that for a long time. At this point, I've been doing a lot. So I've been, my mission has been to give back more than I took, but I was able to take a lot

and I'm still taking. So that's where I'm at in life right now. You know what I mean? I'm the more I bless people, the more I get blessed. And it's just a testament of hard work and being resilient and being real with yourself. I mean. Can I ask you a question, Jim?

Mm-hmm. You smoke, right? Yeah. Were you smoking when you said you better than Nas? I might have been a little bit. Well, as far as, let's get this right. I'm way more influential than Nas, and I don't care what nobody say. I know I made a little boo-boo when he talk about the sales and all this type of shit.

I don't feel like getting into that rhetoric about where I started and where he started. But listen, Nas was nice when I was in high school. When I was in 10th grade, Nas came out. Nas was dope. We appreciated him. He had a little bit of run. But Nas always came up second to Jay and DMX and all these other people.

Like he never had that type of influence on us, except for his first album. I already told you, I used to want to dress like Nas because he had a lot of fresh clothes that the hustlers used to wear and shit. And we used to see him on TV. He had one of the illest albums of all time. And then in high school, when he had the barbecue and shit like Nas, because he had a lot of fresh clothes that the Hustlers used to wear and shit, and we used to see him on TV. He had one of the illest albums of all time. And then in high school when he had the barbecue

and shit like that, I said, I'm a real fan of Nas, but he kind of lost me after the movie Belly and shit like that. Like I don't even- Man, go ahead on with that, Jim. I'm trying to tell you, I'm being honest. You wanna get asked, I'm being a fan. I'm telling you from the movie Belly was fire,

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You dig it? I'm not trying to repeat history, but don't play with us when it comes to that, bro. We already went wild on them boys. You heard? We're the ones that went wild on them boys. And people out here acting like I said, I'm gonna bring the Kufi list back. I just told you I'm gonna change man, Stefan Law, can you dig? Look, I'm gonna put it like this, bro, you been at this thing, but lyrically, I'm gonna keep it a stack with you.

Y'all ain't ever with Nas. Look how you dress. You don't even be in the same places I be in. And the things that we listen to. I can be in the church house. You can't help with Nas lyrically. I don't know who told you that. Now look, I know you on that good stuff, I'll be in and the You got a bunch of 40 and 50 year olds in their panties because I said I'm better All in your steps. Ain't nobody from Diplomats gonna take you over Nas. Nobody from Diplomats but you. That's your too tight. Hold on, Jimmy.

You're not with Nas? That's your too tight. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. You wanna go back to I really mean it? I really mean it, Stardust. We could go back to your history, bro. For you to even say that.

Don't do that, bro. Don't do that, bro. That's your too tight. You said it. I got a question. That guy will stick up for itself and meet me in a booth or something if we wanna do something historical.

Nah, I say he don't do that no more. Nah, I say he don't do that. I'm like that because he got $100 million. He's a very wealthy man. He's a very smart businessman. He caught a couple business licks. Hold on, hold on. Jimmy, hold on.

I got a question. Hold on, hold on. Go ahead. Hold on, hold on, Jim. Hold on, hold on. I got a question. This is what you do, Jimmy. And anything that you do, right?

I've heard you preach it all the time time right when you was playing football you your first thing you always say ain't nobody here Better than me. Ah You know told me that story Second anybody in this world Jimmy stay with me real quick stay with me now. I'm stay with me real quick. Stay with me now. Uncle, stay with me now. But I'm just saying, that mentality, isn't that how you supposed to feel?

Isn't that how you supposed to feel? You know, let me ask you a question. When you was on the field, you thought you was better than T.O. and Moss? Hell yeah, what you mean? Man, stop it. I ain't gonna say it out loud. You done came on here and say,

I ain't better than Moss, I'm not better than T.O., I'm not better than Rice. You., I'm not better than Rice. You said that. I'm not playing the game no more. But you wasn't playing. You wasn't playing. That's the difference. Jill, while you talking, you need to get with the loss.

I'm still playing. Jada them cook y'all into verses. I'm still playing. I'm still playing at a high level. You better check my record, y'all. I'm still playing at a high level. You need to go back and get Jada. Jada them clips off.

I'm rappin' at a high level. You better check my stats, bro. I will run circles around Nas rappin' right. I will run circles around Nas rappin' right. Nah, I'm not gonna put his microphone up. Let me take my mic off. I will run Saturn around Nas right now rappin'. Everybody knows that, you heard?

He's retired. That ain't, he put it down, he said it down. I will run laps around Nas rapping right now, bro. Jim. Oh, you talking about right now? But I'm talking about when y'all, his prime and your prime, you been seeing. I'm still in it.

He done got out. Cam was smoking his boots. I wasn't rapping when he was rapping, but Cam really got at him. You remember, I really mean it? We been getting at them boys, but this is not about that. Right now, 2025, I'm in the game still rapping at a high capacity.

If Nas wants to smoke, come in the booth. I will rap circles around him. He don't want no smoke. He enjoying that 150 million, 200 million. Okay then, so then leave me alone while I'm on the field. You was effing with him. He was abiding you. I'm on the field.

I'm picking on whoever, whatever. I don't care, I'm on the field. You were f'ing with him. He wasn't bothering you. I'm on the field. I'm picking on whoever, whoever, whatever. I don't care. I'm on the field. What you saying? And guess who's the most talk- You don't go on the field? Kendrick, Drake, Weezy? They on the field. You didn't- you didn't call like Drake. And guess who would be the most talk about person in the morning? You didn't call like Weezy. You didn't call like Kendrick. You didn't call somebody that's still in it. He ain't in it. Why? Kendrick didn't make my age. He don't wanna leave. Kendrick didn't make my age. He don't want to leave. Kendrick didn't make my age. I was in the day in my era. I ain't got, that's not my era. He retired. Have you ever heard of retirement?

Well, that's my era, so I'm calling all of them out. I don't care if you retired or not. Deal with it. If not, meet me in the booth, Jack. Meet me in the booth. And I'm just talking about sportsmanship. Hey, Kyle Jada. Let's get this right.

I'm not mad. It's all about the sportsmanship. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. talking about sportsmanship. I'm not mad. Let's get this right.

I'm not mad. It's all about the sportsmanship of the game. People know I'm a very aggressive person and I seem to get misconstrued when I'm talking my shit. I'm just talking my shit, you heard? Let me talk my shit, because I am on the field. If anybody got a problem with that, they can meet me on the field.

That is the booth. Anybody from that era anybody hey anybody from that era anybody well you and Jada in the same era anybody from that era don't you ain't seeing Jada stop that stop anybody from that era I'm not scared of nobody. Man, hey, hey, you speed right now. Anybody from that era. Hey, put the breakers on. I'm not scared of nobody. Hey, hey, hey, I gotta find you.

I need the boots daily. I need the boots daily. I'm in the field daily. In the booth daily. Anybody want to work out, tell them come to the field. This is the perfect opportunity. You're not even paying attention. Your antennas ain't up right now.

Listen, he said anybody from his area, anybody, he in the field, right? Shit, we can have our own versus, our own nightcap versus. I got nobs and jays. It's deeper than the versus. It's about who making music. Me and the booth, put the record up.

Give us a time to do the record by. Give us a subject and let's see who gonna smoke who on the booth. Yeah it is. That's it. Come on. It's about the sportsmanship, it's about the craftsmanship. Fuck the numbers, fuck the records. You heard, cause we both got records that can smash.

We both got, nigga meet me in the booth. Fuck all that old school shit. I'm playing on records from 20 years ago. I am not nostalgic, nigga. It's 2025. Y'all want smoke? Meet me in the booth, set it up, and we can do it for money.

Lay wasn't paid for it. How y'all wanna do it? We can make it spectacle out here. You heard? I'm a sportsman. I'm a sportsman, you heard? You're supposed to be my uncle. Yeah.

I got Nas. I got God flowing. Well, get him in the booth. Y'all got some hits in the booth. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars.

I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars.

I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars.

I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. I got cars. When Johnny Niles starts spittin', who you gonna get to help you? Hey, uh, you not seein' the vision, uh, come see the vision, uh, you not seein' the vision. That nigga's shittin' his shirts tonight. You gotta start buyin' baggy your clothes, big fella, you too big, man. You talk about you in the gym, now you wanna get me, you wanna see me in the gym? Oh, we can do that anytime.

Now come see me in the gym. We talkin' about workin' out, we talkin' about workin' out or strength. Hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. What we working out. We talking about working out or strength. What we talking about? Working out or strength? Work however you want to do it. Since you got money, put your money where your mouth feels. Run them stacks. You talking about working out or strength?

You talking about working out or strength? Cause you probably can lift a lot more than me. You're bigger than me. You're probably stronger than me. But if you talking about working out, you talk about working out, I'll burn you. This ain't what you do. This ain't what you want. You ain't doing good when you talking about nausea and jada. You don't want to see this. You better check the stats. You better check my stats. You better go to my IG.

Set it up. Man, please. Also set it up. I be the, hey, I live for Dump Truck. Don't load up on guys like you. What you want to start on? You ain't in my league, bro. What you want to start on? I'll be the You talking a lot You know, I come to Atlanta tomorrow and give you this you bro. You too small, bro. You talking a lot. What you want to do? They do it. You a stick to what you do. You good on the back.

I won't take that away from you, but stay out of the jail. If it was a you say money. Do you want to do it? And I want to compete, what we doing? Cause neither one don't. Hey, start with Ocho, you can't. You don't get the cover till you get the room. Let me tell you one story.

Let me tell you one story. Let me tell you one story. I'm gonna tell you one story. How I met Antonio Brown. My son said, you know Antonio Brown live up the block cause I live on the beach and shit like that. I'm like, who's that? He like, he showed me to him, I DM'd him.

He like, oh yeah, your son play football, come get this workout. So I get on the beach, Cam Newton and like a few other NFL players, I ain't gonna say nobody's name. He made two of them go home because I finished the workout before they finished the workout, bro.

Do not play with me, I'm a beast, nigga. I will go crazy over you, Shannon. Yeah! Shannon, I will go crazy over you. What do you wanna do? You wanna work out or you wanna do strong shit? You heard? Because obviously you can lift longer than me,

but you can't work out with me, bro. I'm a beast, nigga. I'm a beast. You can't do one muscle up, nothing. You can't do nothing with me, bro. Dude, you weigh 150 pounds. You should do muscle up. I weigh 195. I weigh 195.

Hey, uh. I weigh 195. Hey, Jim. You a lightweight. You better go to my Instagram. Go to my Instagram right now. I work out every day. I post it.

I don't post it. Don't play with me. I work out in secret. I post it every day, nigga. What's up? What day you want me to come to Atlanta? I don't post nothing. What day you want me to come to Atlanta?

I ain't even in Atlanta. I'ma come see you. I'm coming to New York, we got gyms. When you wanna do it? Man, that looks all right. You wanna do a live on the show? You wanna do a live on the show? 30 minute workout? I don't do anything for show, just me and you.

And I just want you to know that I kick your ass doing what you do. You see what I'm saying, old Joe? Hey. See you by show. I went in two. I'm about dough. See you by show. I went in two. I'm about dough. I went in two.

I went in two. The show gets the dough, you never heard that? Yeah. No dough, no show. What's up, you scared? We can do a pay-per-view. I know you got a lot on the line because you're a professional football player

or an actual professional football player. I'm retired. You don't wanna get straight up by a rapper. When you signed your first contract, I was retired. When you signed your first contract, I was retired. I asked you to play and look like you're straight up an older rapper. Hey, when we gonna compete?

Cause I want one in. Ain't no rapper beating me in nothing. But on the microphone. When it come to the gym, that ain't happening. What you wanna do? What you wanna do? Look here. You have the rap game. That's you. That's your era. That's your that's your era. That's where

your era of expertise. Yeah, my name. I ain't finna waste my time dealing with you, man, cuz you ain't on this level. You want to run sprints. You want to run routes. What you want to do? Or you just want to stay in the gym. And I got a bad hamstring and I still give you work. Or you want to stay in the gym? I'm staying in the gym. I don't want to do nothing but that iron. I don't move nothing but iron.

Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. We can move iron, bro. Like you say, what I did ain't. You can speak. Check my resume. It's expensive. In 30 minutes you will not, you won't last 30 minutes with me. You want me to follow you or you want to follow me?

How you want to do it? You can't follow me. I'm a record. Cause you can't do nothing. You can't bench, you can't squat, you can't do nothing. You want to do body weight movements. I don't do body weight movement. You better go check my gram.

I do surstrous squats, I do regular squats. We do dead lifts, we do everything. Are you out your mind? Yeah, I look like 195 pounds. Man, what I look like going up against a 195 pound man in a gym. That's wasting my time. Next, Ocho, take that. Take out Ocho, take that. You sound like you're skipping out.

Sound like you're skipping out. Sound like you're skipping out. Where I'm from, a challenge is a challenge, nigga. Yeah, regardless of size, right? You heard? We fight all bullies where I'm from. That's how I get from, a challenge is a challenge, nigga. Yeah, regardless of size, right? You heard? We fight all bullies where I'm from. That's how I can get up, nigga. You heard?

I ain't scared of no man or nothing, nigga. You heard? You gotta break me, you dickhead. I'm the US. What I look like taking over Greenland? They ain't even got no damn military. Jim Jones, this ain't what you like. This ain't what you looking for.

Bring your mouth and your body to Harlem. Let's go to the gym. Let's go to the gym. Yeah, man, buy that, man. You said a 95-pounder, he want to do some buffalo. You thought I was one of these out of shape rappers. No, I'm in super shape. I'm not in regular shape.

I'm in super shape. Hey, Apple is a shape. Pear, egg, those are shapes. I'm not in regular shape, I'm in super shape. And you can ask everybody, the whole- Hey, we was having a great conversation. The whole industry knows. You see what you did?

Why you think I was on the cover of Men's Health? For my looks? Because I get busy. Oh Lord, have mercy. When we going in the gym, because I want this work. I gym, cause I want this work. I'm busy. I want this work.

Now you busy, you bring it up. Now you busy Rich man. You brought it up. You owe your capait. First of all, you chat, you owe Nas, you owe Jadah, you owe everybody. And then you gotta come in my life. No, no, no, no, no, no.

You said that, you said that. You start bringing up people. Don't say that to a John. Don't try no slick, don't try no slick shit. I I said I don't care who it is I will go up against a better rapper than Nas Jim Jones Defends himself against Nas comparison Jim Jones rejects Nas comparison check my record Jim Jones argue He's bigger than Nas you You sound like you're a little hot.

You over there hot. Okay. You in your feelings? Cause me and everybody else knows you can't F with Nas. Your glasses is crooked. Fix your glasses a little bit. Your glasses is a little crooked.

My glasses are fine. You can talk about my glasses. I take them off. You can see? And I still can see you can't F with Nas. I put them back on. You still can't F with Nas. Come on. back on. You still can't F with Nas. Or Jada.

Come on, sing 16 bars of Nas right now. Sing your favorite Nas record right now. The man busy. Sing it, sing it. Sing your favorite Nas record. First of all, Up. Once you get to a certain,

Listen. Sing your favorite Nas record Jim I bet you know your favorite Jay-Z record. Hey, I bet you could say your favorite What? Jim sing your favorite Nas record. Okay, you don't flew high you came back down now Sing your favorite Nas record bro since you since you back since you going crazy for More not I can sing more Nas records than you right now. I can sing more Nas records than you right now.

You are capping. That's what you're doing. I'm a bigger Nas fan than you are. You are capping. I don't be singing no rap. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? He don't even know about rap. He's just doing this for the views that get Jim Jones on there to get him hot. I understand.

But you don't know Nazra. Get him hot. You don't know Nazra. You better check the podcast space. You don't know Nazra. Now, now, now you better try to take. Sing 16. Hey, this the biggest podcast you ever been on.

Name one Nazra. This the biggest podcast you ever been on. You know the podcast you've been on better than this one. Hold on, hold on. I'm not a podcast. I'm not a podcast. No, no, no, hold on. This what I do.

You see what I'm saying, Ocho? You see the podcast you've been on bigger than this one. Hold on, hold on. I'm not a podcast. I'm not a podcast. No, no, no, hold on. This is what I do. Name the podcast you've been on bigger than this one. When you get big, you get invited to Club Shay-Shay.

This is what I do. Nas get invited to Club Shay-Shay. Jadakiss get invited to Club Shay-Shay. You're not on that level yet, bro. See, you know, we have temple. It's for little, young white girls. Chill out. You're not on that level yet, bro. See, you know what, V.I.P. is a little young white girl. Chill out. Chill out, don't play with me, bro.

Chill out. You're dealing with the wrong one, bro. Right here, bro. I don't care nothing about nothing that you got to say, bro. You might as well take your off this shit, bro. Hey, we here. You can't out-talk me.

You might get out-rap me, but you can't out-talk me. Nobody wanna go to club Shea Shea. Nobody wanna buy no V. but you can't out-talk me. Nobody want to go to Club Shaysay. Nobody want to buy no VIP tickets to that shit. Nobody rushing to go to that shit. Biggest podcast you ever been on. You ain't got nothing lit in Club Shaysay. If you're fortunate, you'll get an invite. You do got to go to the podcast.

You're not listening to me? The podcasts are tremendous. You and Osho do your thing. Don't get it twisted, bro. I don't care nothing about no fucking podcast, bro. We supposed to be talking about music and love and embracing women and culture and Come out here disrespect Nas and Jada that it gonna happen on here Now where were we

What's wrong with you what's wrong with you What's wrong with you? What is wrong with you, bro? You type a nigga and get called like, nah, come out. They call us all. Like, why you trying to put Jada into this, bro? Nah, I get it, bro. It's all good. It's all love, bro.

All right, you dive out this here. Tell us about the movie you got coming out. The next movie? What you said? Yeah, you got a movie coming out, right? Yeah, coming out, At the Church Steps. Lovely movie. I got a bunch of comedians in there, a bunch of influences that we all know.

I'm excited to put that movie out. Comes out later on this summer. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie.

It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be a good movie. It's steps, a lovely movie. I got a bunch of comedians in there, a bunch of influences that we all know. I'm excited to put that movie out. Comes out later on this summer. It's added onto my album. Got a bunch of dope actors in there too, so. I'm looking forward to that. So are you most proud of the movie you have coming out or the new music you got coming out?

Or they're equal? I'm more proud of the business that I've been doing lately. Okay. So you must think my life revolves around music. Well, my life is music is just probably the smallest fraction of my life, even though it fuels a lot of the things that comes to my life because of music.

But I'm a great businessman all around the board. You know what I mean? So you got to learn a lot more about me. And I'm a philanthropist. I'm board. You know what I mean? So you gotta learn a lot more about me. And I'm a philanthropist. I'm one of the few people that do give back, shirts off my backs and things like that. All the rhetoric about the rap and back and forth

in school and shit like that. But deep down inside, I'm a way iller man than what we over here going off about and things like that. Like, my biggest attribute is my giving back. You heard it? I'm gonna always do that. No matter what. I want people to get it, get it misconstrued. You know, I love to give back.

That's what my whole mission is about. And the more I go viral, the more I'm on your explore page, the more opportunities come to me, the more I can give back. All this comes down to a dollar is what people don't understand. This algorithm is a game that I had to learn and understand

because I was a, previously I probably would crash down so many things that I see on the internet or so many ways that people are talking about me. I had to learn how to reverse it and use these things as fuel for me to keep going and things like that. And that's just what I've been doing. I got to a point where I got good at it. So I know how to use it in my favor.

And it's a beautiful thing. It could go against you, it could go for you. But one thing, if you're a small person, it's gonna work in your favor, you know what I mean? So I use all my opportunities to turn it in my favor. And it's a beautiful thing. It could go against you, it could go for you. But one thing, if you're a smart person, it's gonna work in your favor, you know what I mean? So I use all my opportunities to turn it into a dollar. And anytime that I'm seeing her, they're gonna wanna know about me. Action stream is an action dollar.

I don't care about what nobody say. I name lines in all facets, you know what I mean? That's what I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask, was it always a part of your, like if you ever made it that you were gonna give back? Because like you said, you do, you do give back to the younger generation. You do give back to your community.

When did that thought process, how did that come about? Jim Jones, like, you know what? If I get to a certain level and I'm able to help and I'm able to give back, that's what I'm gonna do. We from an older era, a Godfair era, so I watched my family open their house to strangers sometimes with things like that.

They was always a given. And not to mention when I'm coming outside and watching the hustlers doing for the community, the ones that were successful, the ones that always came back, bus rides, sneakers, haircuts, all of that. So I just chose to carry on tradition and me being a position of success in my life

only helped me to do a little bit more than what I've seen coming up. That's what's up. That's good, bro. Hey, I'm gonna pull up in Harlem. Come on, I'm waiting for you, man. I love you. Yeah.

I'm waiting for you. I love you. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Jimmy. Hey, if you pull up in Harlem, we gotta go to Ricardo's. No, we gotta go to Ricardo's. Gotta go to Ricardo's. Hey, Shannon, you know I love you. I love people that I can go back and forth with

and people don't take no offense to it. You heard? That's what's up. A lot of people look at this and might take offense to it, but we black men. They are, they are. But we don't care. We have a great time. And we know who we are. You dig?

Yeah, for sure. We can never let no electronics get in between the realism. We know what's at stake here and we know what we're doing. You dig? And I appreciate you for that, because a lot of people would have took everything to offense and like, you dig?

Like, it hurt, but we all who we are, man. I appreciate this opportunity, man. Y'all do have a great show. I cannot take that from you. You want to pull up a Harlem? I appreciate you coming on. Come on, OJ, come on do have a great show. I cannot take that from you. You want to put up a whole show? I appreciate you coming on. Come on, Ocho, bring him to Harlem.

Let's work out. Let's go work out. I'm gonna bring him. And then go to Ricardo's. Hey, he not as strong as you say, though. He not as strong as you say. Oh, there you go. He say he just be talking, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. You see? Nah, but hey, A.G Jay, real talk though, man. I appreciate you coming on Ocho and I. We really appreciate it. We appreciate your time. And I've never, you know, hey,

we have a great time going back and forth talking about Nas and Jay and you, but bro, you stand the test of time. You do what you do. You great at what you do. And I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule tonight to come on with Ocho and I and talk about all things.

So we, I had a great time. I don't know about Ocho, but I had a great time. Hey, listen, listen, this is, this was iconic tonight. This was iconic. Anytime you got, this is the funny thing about it is people not going to understand what y'all, what y'all. It's going to be trendy, Jim. You know, we're going to be a star in the morning. People not, people not going to understand that. This is what we do. This is what we do. This is just the culture. This is how we do. This is what we do. This is just the culture. This is how we act. This is how we act when we get together.

Like people gotta understand it. Yeah. I love y'all though, man. I appreciate you. This wasn't nothing but a spades game without the cars. That's all. 100%. Our whole attitude is spades all day.

That's all the time. All day, bro. Hey, cause the thing was, if I was at Harlem, he's like, okay, let's go find the gym right now. We'll find out what we bought. 100%. 100%. 100%, man. We stand on that.

Hey, but, Jim, hey, man, best of luck on the album, best of luck on the movie, man. Hey, when you get some free time, stop by. I will. I appreciate that, bro. All love. You know my life. Thank you you man. Bye.

He he he he. Ah. Hey. Hey, Ocho. That was awesome. That was awesome. Hey, Ocho, now you know, hey, everybody gonna say, man, Jim Jones

and Shadow Shop was going to, hey. No, they don't understand it. Anybody that say that, they don't play spades. They don't play spades. But it ain't, Ocho, it's been a while since I've been able to get that out. Ocho, I've been sitting on there for two months now. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I would just wait.

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podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Timberland got blasted on social media for using a producer's beat and a producer's tag to train his AI platform, Suno. Tim previewed a demo record which utilized the beat tag from K-Fresh and lyrics from TikTok creator. He sought to make a new version of the song, but users quickly noticed they were a bit too similar. They called out the Virginia producer using real music made by human

beings to train AI without crediting or paying them. Bun. And I remember, I remember having a conversation with Tim because I had him on the pod and he said he was nervous about this. Bun, do you think about the controversy? What do you, what do you think is going on with Tim and his new AI creation? I think for one, it's uncharted territory. And I think it's still in the very early stages of the technology. I think it's going to grow over leaps and bounds over the next couple

of years because they covered so much ground in the last 10 years with AI technology. You know what I'm saying? AI companies are starting to pop up more and more. And they're all billion dollar companies. People are flooding these companies with all kinds of money. I think this is a problem. I think that we're not thinking about this. What they're doing now, the only way that AI can do these things is if you feed it information. You've got to feed it information. I know on a very small level, an introductory level, there are musicians who are feeding AI machines, their voices, their cadences, their tones, some of them, the way they play instrumentation. And now the AI program can replicate what a rhyme from you would sound like without

you having to write it. What chords being played would sound like without you having to play them. You know what I'm saying? That's very dangerous. Here's the real danger though, Shannon. What I believe, we live in a digital world, right? All these, everything digital has what they call watermarks, right?

And watermarks are what they use to track the technology as it goes out into the world. So companies can be like, oh, that's what they're doing? That's our technology. I bet you we can find it in the code, right? That kind of a thing. I think everybody that's utilizing this stuff right now, I feel like one day, chat GPT can wake up one day and say,

everybody that's ever made music using my technology, we own a piece of it. And there's nothing you can say. I don't believe anybody's read the agreement. I'm sure if somebody got through these chat GPT and all these different AI companies agreements, when you agree to utilize the technology or download the app and all of that,

I guarantee that they are going to go back, find out everything that was created using their technology that profited, that was sent out into the world as commerce and people spent money on it. They're gonna come back. The same way that older artists are coming back because somebody sampled their music, right?

I created that, you took my creation and manipulated it without paying me. You owe me money. I believe these people are giving this technology out to people for free in the hopes that they utilize it, unknowingly giving these companies a piece of this intellectual property because it's all intellectual property. You know what I'm saying? So I think I won't touch it. I won't download it or nothing because not that I'm against it, you know, for recreational use, I guess that's fine. If it helps organize things or put things together, you know, however, that I understand. But when we're talking about utilizing this technology to manipulate intellectual properties, bro,

we playing a dangerous ass game because somebody could just start feeding AI Timberlands beat structures. You know what I'm saying? They could start utilizing his drum patterns and put that in and make a trembling record without him, you know? And you're opening yourself up quite frankly with the way he's doing it to a whole lot of litigation and a whole lot of trouble. Personally, I don't think America is the market for that. Japan, China's been doing it for years. You know what I'm saying? But that's a cultural thing.

They socialize different in certain countries. So having a relationship with someone that... I know this shit sound crazy, but having a relationship with a machine for some people fits their lifestyle a lot better. It doesn't work like, because they don't have, they don't have the social graces to go out and meet people and commune with people in that way.

So this is a healthy in their minds alternative, but here, no, at some point we don't wanna see somebody get on stage and sing this shit. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, it's the allure, right? It's the allure. Like Megan Thee Stallion is a famous person

because men find her attractive, women find her attractive. You know what I'm saying? There's an allure to it. Japan and China has that very strange relationship with technology in that way where they don't just make robots, they have relationships with robots and pillows and all of that type of shit. I don't think that he can break a star like that because at some point somebody got to get on the stage. Somebody got to sign an autograph. Somebody got to take a picture, you know? And I don't think we want to see a robot

and a computer do that to the point of touring. Today. You never know with this. 10 years from now, I might be different. Look, I'm an analog dude. I come up on eight tracks and putting 45s on the record player and all that stuff. 45 years. I'm not knocking it, I come up on eight tracks and putting 45s on a record player and all that stuff.

I'm not knocking it, but I think we don't understand it enough to utilize it in the way that we try to utilize it. I think that's the real problem with Tim. I don't think he's really thinking of the cons. Everybody uses AI for what they think they can make it work for, but nobody's thinking about how this could sit back.

And Timbaland is such a major impactful player in the entertainment industry, that that shit could really, people would follow suit. If he became successful, if he and his artists become successful, this will be a thing. It will be a whole thing. Bun, let me know what you think.

Jadakiss is still upset about not making the top five on complex top 50 New York list. If we were to do a top 50 Houston list, Bun, is Bun going to be in the top 10? There's an argument to that. And I'm going to tell you why. Because technically, I'm from Port Arthur. That's the way that I've been put in this lexicon. UGK typically is taken out of that conversation for Houston. Okay. Now, Texas, oh no, you're gonna have hell

trying to be better than that in Texas. Okay, so we gonna, since it's New York, we gonna make it Texas then. No, you can't even have that conversation. You can't even have that conversation without me. And I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but there's a certain style of rapping that didn't even really exist in Houston

before I started rapping a certain way. Like being a lyricist wasn't necessarily a requirement. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't necessarily something you had to do to be successful here because it wasn't a demand primarily. But I never felt like, I felt like I was already way past my competition here. So I was competing with everybody.

You know what I'm saying? So yeah, there's no way you could, the only way you take me out of it is that it's like, no, but we don't mean you. We don't mean like you and face or whatever. But if we talking about everybody, top five from Texas, man, I gotta wash my mouth on this show. I'm really trying to be cool about it. I honestly don't think there's five people from Houston that can rap better than me. That's from the state of Texas. That's better than me. I give you DLC and Scarface. I give you DLC and Scarface. That's it. Maybe three, two, maybe recipes three, two, but Yeah, they got, yeah, I'm looking at this list here.

They do got, they got Jada, they got Jada in 16. Yeah, no, they wrong for that. They very wrong for that. And look, I understand, because you have to understand that some of the greatest rappers of all time came from New York. You know what I'm saying? That's where it started.

I understand why they would want to honor other people before they honor Jadakiss. You know what I'm saying? I get that. And all this shit is relative, right? Because in the earliest days, there wasn't nobody harder than LL, there wasn't nobody harder than Rakim, then K.R.S.

You know, like, these things are subjective. You know what I'm saying? But if somebody that lives in the modern time in New York City is rating New York rappers and they don't put JDKiss in it, he's top 10, right? If he, I can understand people wanting to argue about whether or not he's top five. If you look at the whole scheme,

but you gotta, again, you gotta put the Rakims and the Big Daddy Canes and the Coogee Raps. You gotta get all these great people. Man, they got Big Daddy Cane, man. They got Big Daddy Cane so far down. Man, the people don't realize how good Big Daddy Cane was. Big Daddy Cane was, is still like that. Look man, we are, we sit in Argon Jordan

and LeBron all over again. That's all this is. Different times speak to different sensitivities. You know what I'm saying? And that's how people draw these lists. I could understand him being upset, but at the same time, it's all subjective. You know what I'm saying?

And when you meet the people that typically make these lists, they aren't legitimately, they're not steeped enough in the culture to really have these conversations with, much less give any validity to that shit. I don't give these people no weight just because they say they listen to a bunch of music shit. I listen to a bunch of music.

I listen to a bunch of R&B too. I can't, I ain't finishing that act like I can sing or judge people who can't sing. I can't even hum shit. All right, bud, we gotta close it out on this. We got our final segment of the day. It's time for Q and A. Okay.

Here we go. Q and A, baby. Joe Bombo's Athlon's Playbook. Bun, this one's for you. Bun B, when are we gonna get a Kendrick, UGK collab? That's a good question. I've not been able to really have a relationship with Kendrick.

That's for somebody that I literally have not bumped into of all the people in hip hop. I've never bumped into him, but that's not surprising because Kendrick don't really socialize like that outside of, his homeboys in LA, people that he records with. It's not somebody that you'll see at Rolling Loud or Coachella or something like that,

or at somebody's release party, or a New Jordan release or something like that. It just don't socialize like that, you know what I'm saying? So there's no relationship to even extend the offer. I wouldn't even know how to, I don't have an email or nothing. I mean, he's an amazing rapper. I always want to rap with the best people. You know what I'm saying?

So anybody that's considered one of the best, the studio is always open. Hugs973 said, Bun, do you think they'll bring the comments back? No, but they are looking to bring a WNBA team back to Houston. I know they're thinking of that, but I don't know if they would call that team the Comets. I'm not sure who owns that name in that way.

I'm not sure if the Rockets ownership, if that's something that transfers from owner to owner or how that works. But I mean, I think it would be great for the city. I think the city would come all the way out. But you gotta understand, if you decide to call a WNBA team, the Comets, you got to have the best of the best on that team.

Because that's arguably the best legacy ever at WNBA basketball. Yeah, you had Coop, you had Cheryl Swoops, you had Tina Thompson. Oh, y'all would load it. That's why you won four straight. Ken Perron was a hometown hero. That's never happened to me. Kim Perron was a hometown hero.

God bless the recipe. Yeah. No, we had that squad. There's never been as dominated a team as that team was. Four Pete, right? Yep. Four Pete. The first four.

Crazy. Fiz New Jersey said, let's bring in Mike Jones from Houston for his Houston opinion. Anyone got his number? Mike is going to come on in the very near future. And guess what? Come back and we'll ask.

His number ain't changed. He still got that number. Kimber Northwood Jr. said, Unc and Bun B, my question, how many Super Bowls would Peyton Manning have if he was quarterback for the Patriots and Tom Brady was the quarterback for the Colts? That's a good question because you've got to think

of the drive that Tom came in with. There's a big difference between getting drafted here at the top and getting drafted at the bottom. Both of those put a fire under you, but for different reasons. at the top and getting drafted at the bottom. Both of those put a fire under you, but for different reasons. And also, I think initially, Peyton might've had a little bit more knowledge of the game

and naturally fell into that leadership quality. Whereas, Tom was the leader of the locker room, but never the leader of the team. Peyton had power in his early years Tom gradually gained that power and knew how to utilize it a little bit different and then he had Belichick too right and that's a whole different type of discipline I can't that was a whole different animal that's Peyton never had a coach like that that had that kind of control because Peyton really had to control

Peyton ran practice, Peyton ran the two minutes, Peyton ran everything and so different responsibilities privileges that Brady was never Brady's you know like I know Shannon different responsibilities create different people absolutely there's a big difference of what's expected from the big brother than the little brother you know what I'm saying? Yep. I absolutely know what you're saying. On the You Versus You podcast, we welcome Polo Molina, music manager to the stars.

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