Nightcap - Nightcap - 49ers dominate Giants, Deion Sanders vs. Oregon, Selena Gomez rumors

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers thumping the New York Giants 30-12 on NFL Thursday Night Football. They also discuss what Deion Sanders and Colorado have to do to keep... pace with Oregon. Then they dig into Shannon’s viral moment involving Selena Gomez and Shannon explains the real story. #volume #herd #clubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 The Volume. Hello, welcome to another edition of Nightcap. I'm your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite, number 85, Chad Ochocinco-Johnson. And let's jump right into it. The Niners again win another regular season game. They look unstoppable. Brock Purdy still has not lost a regular season game as a 49er starter and he's now third all-time consecutive wins to start a career trailing Big Ben who's number one with 15 what was your takeaway
Starting point is 00:02:19 what did you like about the Giants tonight I mean excuse me the 49ers tonight listen the 49ers did everything they were supposed to do. There's a reason they played. They've lost home games. They've lost one home game out of the last 15, and the last loss was in 2022 to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Week 7. Why? Brock Purdy playing well. McCaffrey playing well. They're moving McCaffrey. He in the slot. He catching balls all the way on the outside. Minus Brandon Aiyuk. The offense didn't miss a beat. Debo Samuels, I don't know what he had to eat. I don't know what he had to eat for breakfast this morning,
Starting point is 00:02:56 but whatever it is he had to eat, he needed to keep on eating it. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. But let me tell you what upsets me. Let me tell you what upsets me. Let me tell you what upsets me. Saquon Barkley is out. The Giants know you got to come in with a game plan
Starting point is 00:03:13 to fill the void of the production that Saquon would have for you. What do they come out and do? What do they come out and do? Try to prove Daniel Jones is the guy? A $40 million quarterback. No. I saw multiple times from quarter one to quarter three on third down
Starting point is 00:03:32 and a few second downs, the 49ers defense play man-to-man across the board. And nobody could get open. That's a sign of disrespect to that receiver room. It's a sign of disrespect to that receiver room. It's a sign of disrespect. The coaching staff knows you need a little bit more creativity. If you don't have anybody that can win in one-on-one situations, condense the formation.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Fourth, the DBs have to back up. If anything, put people in motion. I ain't backing up against nobody I know can't get open against press coverage. You don't have a choice. That's why I said condense the formations. Put people in motion. Create ways for them to get open.
Starting point is 00:04:11 The offensive coordinator, I don't even know who his name is, but you have to understand your offensive players' strengths and their weaknesses. If you know they can't off the muscle, get open and help your team win. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:27 You have Jalen Hyatt. Jalen Hyatt is a speedster. Jalen Hyatt is a game-changing player. Every time I see Jalen come in the game, all he's doing is going deep. What are we doing? Right. Passes to Darren Waller.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Darren Waller is a ball player. He is a ball player. You paid him, you bought him over there for a reason. Darren Waller is a ball player. He is a ball player. You paid him. You bought him over there for a reason. Ball's too high. Ball's too low. Putting Darren Waller on the outside. You know, everything is so predictable.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It's so predictable. Waller going to the Giants was out of his control for the simple fact that he was traded there. But I don't believe he would have gone in free agency because he would have learned his lesson from Evan Ingram. Look at Evan Ingram and the Giants. Look at Evan Ingram and Jacksonville. Man, balling. You see the difference? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So that's the situation. I agree with you. The fact of the matter is that the Giants' offense is predicated on Saquon Barkley being able to run the football effectively. Right. Look, I understand that you paid Daniel Jones because you felt you had to is predicated on Saquon Barkley being able to run the football effectively. Right. Look, I understand that you paid Daniel Jones because you felt you had to out of necessity. You didn't have a choice.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But if you think Daniel Jones is going to lead you somewhere without Saquon, y'all fooling yourself. You're fooling yourself. They knew that from the beginning. When Saquon went down last week, the game plan should have been offensively, how can we fill the void
Starting point is 00:05:47 and fulfill the production that Saquon would give us? We have to make Daniel Jones' job easy because leaving it in his hands to be a quarterback and sit back there and do what he needs to do
Starting point is 00:05:58 with Bosa coming off the edge and the rest of that 49er defense playing well, ain't gonna happen. I wanted to cry. And I'm not trying to be funny i know i play around a lot but if i felt bad the fact that the 49ers had the nerve on third down almost every down until it got to the fourth quarter they played man to man with one safety in the middle of the field and said, let me see you get open. Let me see you get open. Like, that hurt me.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Ocho, but you know now, when you got Bosa on one side, you got Hargrove, you got Armstead, you got Kinloch, you got guys that can get after your quarterback, it's kind of the Dallas principle. You're like, hey, I'm not going to allow you to have no zone.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Get open. Because I already know you ain't got but about 2.5 seconds to get up off that ball. Because Bucs are going to get home. One of them guys is going to get home. That's all you need in man-to-man though, Shannon. In man-to-man, you just need 2.5 seconds. Stick release.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Get up out of there. Dip a shoulder. Run. Stack him. And just do something. Give your quarterback, give your offense a chance. I'm looking at it like this here. My former coach
Starting point is 00:07:05 in Denver, Mike Shanahan, said if you can't beat man coverage, there's two jobs for you. Coaching or selling cars. My staff is Phil, so I ain't hiring. So I don't know John. He used to ask John, you hiring it because John owned car dealership. So that's the only two choices. You either
Starting point is 00:07:21 coaching or you're selling cars. You've got to be able to beat press coverage. You've got to be able to beat press coverage. You've got to be able to beat man coverage. If you can't beat man coverage in the NFL, you cannot play receiver in the NFL. But think about this. Think about this. You know your players' strengths and your weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:07:37 If you know you don't have anybody in that receiver room, you know, and no disrespect to them, then my boy. So you're saying stack them or put them in a bunch formation to give them something. Put them in a bunch. Put somebody in motion. Create ways to in a bunch formation to give them something. Stack them, put them in a bunch, put somebody in motion, create ways to help them get open.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Free them up. Find ways to do it, especially on third down. You just leaving them out there to dry, knowing that this is not their strength. This is not what they do. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's not what they do. Then you're putting Darren Waller out, out wide, a tight end. Yeah, I mean, that's not a, you can't, yeah, you can't get him a skater down wide. A tight end that goes out wide. He going one place. He coming in.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He coming in. All the safety did was just sat on there and just drove right. He just drove right on it. Drove right on the slam. Come on, man. Then the crossing route. The crossing route on third now. Third and 12. We paying you $40 million, Daniel Jones. We paying you $40 million. Darren Waller running the crossing route full speed. You throw it on his back, shoulder, and high. you $40 million. Darren Waller running across from you at full speed.
Starting point is 00:08:25 You throwing on his back, shoulder, and high. Come on, man. Then I'm looking at Twitter. I'm looking at Twitter. Oh, he should have caught that. What you talking about? He going full speed the opposite way. Hold on, Ocho. But you talking about Twitter. You talking about people that's never caught
Starting point is 00:08:41 the football in high school or for a living i said do you understand how hard it is to be running in one direction turn try to slow down open your hips up you've got to open your hips get your body around now mind you even if you do that your momentum is still going the opposite direction in which the ball is being thrown yeah take it from somebody two people that that caught over i caught over 800 balls you caught over 700 balls so you're talking to two guys that caught over. I caught over 800 balls. You caught over 700 balls. So you're talking to two guys that caught over 1,500 footballs.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I think you and I know a little something about catching a football. A little something. A little something. Occasionally, I was able to be running full speed and able to open my hips and get my hips around and get my head around or hands around and catch it. But you're not going to make a steady diet of that. I don don't care who you are i don't care how great a receiver you are you're not gonna make a steady diet of that especially when your momentum i mean full speed it's third down for one it's third now so you know you haul and tail the big man and get away from that dude and the ball being behind you just a tad bit it throws everything off and i'm not
Starting point is 00:09:41 asking you to put the ball between the eight and the four on every snap. I'm saying, you know, hey, you getting pressure, guys at your feet, guys flying around your head. You've probably had to get outside the pocket to make a throw. But damn, at least give me an opportunity to see my... Christian McCaffrey scored a touchdown in 12 straight
Starting point is 00:10:00 games. I thought that that was the biggest trade of last year during the season i thought it was a great situation knowing how knowing that offense knowing what christian mccaffrey is his ability to run between the tackles to run outside you can throw him the ball out of the backfield you can line him up in the slot you can put him out wide he can run the sluggo route. He's a utility.
Starting point is 00:10:29 The funny thing about it is you talk about him being a Swiss Army knife and a utility. Everything you just named that he can do, he did tonight. Every last one. He caught one from the slot. He caught one from outside. He caught him out the backfield. He ran off tackle. Man, he did everything, and there was no answer for him.
Starting point is 00:10:42 There was no answer for him. And then because the running game was going so well, they could do whatever they want in the passing game and the fact that they put up what 30 plus tonight they put up 30 plus tonight right no brandon iuk no brandon iuk so what happened when he comes back what's the answer can i ask you the answer is look in order to play in this office in the West Coast office you need receivers that are great run after the catch because a lot of the stuff
Starting point is 00:11:10 that you catch are going to be at or near the line of scrimmage right if you look at Debo if you look at Debo how many smoke screens jailbreak screens
Starting point is 00:11:17 do they throw him how many smoke screens and jailbreak screens do they throw C-Mac IU when he's in there they do a lot of their damage you have
Starting point is 00:11:26 to be able to be physical because you one thing you got to do in the west coast you got to block oh yeah if you're not gonna block you can't play for kyle shanahan because i was i was coached by his dad and he gonna tell you you ain't blocking we ain't throwing no pass to you so you got to be able to be physical right and you catch a lot of short routes in traffic. If you see, Devo took some shots. He didn't catch the ball. Right. But he caught,
Starting point is 00:11:48 you know, slant route. I saw you tweet about, man, I wish I could catch me. I wish I would play right now. Catch a slant. Cause I want some of Fred Warner.
Starting point is 00:11:55 No, you don't. I would've gave him that business. I would've gave Fred, man, listen, me and Fred, we,
Starting point is 00:11:59 we, we, we weigh the same. We weigh the same. We, we weigh exactly. Well, I'm,
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Starting point is 00:12:25 What is you talking about? I'm 215 right now. I just weighed myself two days ago on the scale. How you gonna tell me at Publix? The scale in Publix? If I see... If you ever get to 215, I'm calling the doctor immediately. Something wrong with you. I work hard. I work hard to get...
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Starting point is 00:15:23 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Matter of fact, and this is another thing about the 49ers game. The 49ers ran short routes, intermediate routes, and ain't do nothing deep. Ain't throw nothing deep.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They ain't have to. They ran the one route, the Debo. Remember they throw the last touchdown the Debo called. Matter of fact, I'm so glad you said that.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Adoree Jackson, two times on third down. They tried to get Debo on the slam. All Adoree did was he positioned himself a full man inside. I already know it's coming. I already know it's coming. So what they did, they waited it out, waited it out until third down. They did it with that sluggo. They blitz, sluggo, boom, overtop, touchdown.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And I tweeted it out ahead of time. I know Shanahan must have seen that tweet. That's why they call it. Yes. That's why they call it. Yeah, that's why they call it. So you want to be offensive coordinator now, huh? Nope.
Starting point is 00:16:19 No, sir. But I play Madden, though. I play Madden. It's all the same. So C-Mac has now scored a touchdown in 12 straight games. The record is 18 straight games by LT. Do you think he'll get to 18? Most definitely.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Most definitely. He'll be able to get there because the offense is too efficient. It's too efficient. There's no way to stop it. I'm trying to think. I don't have their schedule in front of me on who they play, on who they play next, or who they're playing up until the bye week. But what defense is out there that can stop what they're doing?
Starting point is 00:16:46 What defense is out there that can do it? Because they got, if you look at all the guys, look at Kittle. Kittle almost had 100 yards receiving. Debo had 100 yards. As you mentioned, there was no IU. Bell caught a touchdown. Jennings is a tremendous run after the catch. They got Ray
Starting point is 00:17:02 McDonald. He's a good run after the catch because he's a punt returner. Anybody that's a punt returner tells you he's good run after the catch because you got to be able to make people miss. So I like them. And then the Giants, Daniel
Starting point is 00:17:18 Jones, 1-11 in primetime games. $40 million quarterback. No disrespect to him obviously they were they were in i don't want to say a chokehold but you got to pay your quarterback you got to pay your quarterback but you're all because we're but you're all your offense is run through number 26 yeah now you see now you see but we do everybody know everybody knew that everybody knows that they know that yeah they know they're not going anywhere without the ability to run the football
Starting point is 00:17:51 whether it's saquon barkley it doesn't matter if he's not a guy that you could just put the ball in his hand and said son go win the. There are very few quarterbacks in the National Football League that can, without some resemblance of a run game, can win you a game. He needs to rely heavily. Now, if you let him just run around, yeah, he's got great legs. Yeah, very athletic.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He's way above average when it comes to running the football. And making plays, keeping plays open, extending plays. He's a guy, I'd rather have him in the pocket as opposed to outside of the pocket because he can hurt me with his legs. I'm really not worried about him beating me with his arm, especially with no threat of the run game. And those receivers, man, I'm pressing across the board. I ain't doing nothing but pressing.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's no disrespect to the Giants receivers. I love all them boys. I've watched them, Slayton, Jalen Hyde. I ain't doing nothing but pressing. It's no disrespect to the Giants receivers. I love all them boys. I've watched them. Slayton, Jalen Hyde. I know what he did in college. Yeah, but you know college. Guys are afraid to press in college. Yeah, but I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:18:57 you have someone with that kind of speed. Move them around. Put them in motion. Create ways for them to get open. There are so many ways for offensive coordinators to be creative. The lack of running game.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Help your quarterback out. Help your receivers out. Help your offense out. Make your job. You complicating everything. Don't complicate it. Simplify it so the offense
Starting point is 00:19:18 can be somewhat efficient because you don't have a running game. Ocho, you know, sometimes OCs get stuck in a way, this is my offense, this is what I do. As opposed to, your offense is only
Starting point is 00:19:30 as good as the people that you have in it. And the offense should be catered or tailored to what those people do really, really well. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, they're not, listen, there's not a whole lot of guys that you can say, okay, son, go get open. Yeah. They's not a whole lot of guys that you can say, OK, son, go get open.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, they're not a whole. They're not a whole lot. I can name five of them right now. But but I'm saying, but you see, ain't none of them on the Giants. Right. That's my that's my thing. So you have to scheme for them. There are some guys that ain't no scheme. Right. So go get open. Go beat that man. Right. And I think... And some... I think also... And as you mentioned... Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was saying, as you mentioned, some guys you got a scheme for. Right. You got to stack
Starting point is 00:20:14 a bunch of formation. You got to put them in motion. Right. You got to do all... You got to dress all of it up to try to confuse the defense. Defense. And then I can just tell Tyreek
Starting point is 00:20:24 or Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or some of these other guys. This is Devontae Adams, Keenan Allen. Jamar, I mean, just off the muscle. I call it just getting it off the muscle. There are certain receivers in the NFL that make an offensive coordinator's job
Starting point is 00:20:38 easy because I know I can count on him come hell or high water. Every time. Every time. Yeah, and I need a first and a 15th guy. Yeah. And you know what happens on the first and the 15th, them checks come. So I need to be able to depend on him
Starting point is 00:20:52 like I depend on the first and the 15th. Yeah. And there are, look, no disrespect to any of the guys because if you're in the NFL, you're extremely talented. Yeah. But there's levels to this.
Starting point is 00:21:04 No matter what position that you play, there's levels to this. No matter what position that you play, there's levels to it. And there's tier one, which is the elite. Then there's tier two and three. And then there are guys in the league that okay, we've got to fill out the roster. But the Giants receivers, that's not good enough.
Starting point is 00:21:20 That's not good. Listen, I can't have a bad quarterback and bad receivers. Only one. You get one. You can have a bad quarterback and bad receivers. Only one. You get one. You can have a bad quarterback and top receivers, or you can have a top quarterback, but you can't have two. You know, I think also I don't want to discredit the DBs or the 49ers. I think they are in the upper echelon as a whole, as an entire unit,
Starting point is 00:21:43 to where it was a little difficult. But I think the Giants will be able to succeed on other defenses. But just tonight, I think they were a little exposed in man-to-man coverage based on the personnel that they were going against. The Giants got a tough schedule. But see, here's the thing. Football is about respect. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And if I don't respect you as a player, I'm going to do whatever I want. I mean, I got to be able to feel, I got to have fear that you can run by me. I have to have a healthy fear that you can beat me. I guarantee you, if you ask the 49ers to a man, they didn't respect not one of those Giants receivers because they didn't believe they can beat man coverage. And that's why they sat their ass down
Starting point is 00:22:22 right in front of him and said, you can't beat me. The first three quarters, they ain't going to an umbrella and just try to keep everything underneath them until they got four minutes into the third quarter. I mean, in the fourth quarter, they ain't even
Starting point is 00:22:35 care. Like, come on, man. Come on, man. That was bad. The Giants go, look, they get 10 days to possibly uh I think I think Saquon said he has a high ankle sprain right so that three weeks could turn into six weeks could turn into eight weeks right which is I mean considering what y'all think about me as the running back at the running back position I'm not so sure that I'm in a I'm doing everything I
Starting point is 00:23:01 possibly can I'm trying to full speed ahead to try to to get back and put this extra wear and tear on my body because y'all have already told me what y'all thought of me. Yeah, basically. Because I see you get a quarterback $40 million, and then after I sign the franchise tag, I see you give an offensive lineman about $18 to $22 million. So I see where you see the value is. You're saying your left tackle and your quarterback is more valuable to me.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Right. But we're going to see how many games you win because now the left i think the left tackle got he got dinged uh the last game right he was out but that just goes to show you and you and i talked about this the running when you have a top flight running back right there's value in that i mean just the fact that the owners don't see that, you know, they're... You think so? You think so? The owners are going to try to...
Starting point is 00:23:50 Listen, Ocho, like you said, if I can buy something of value, that's the thing. What do you do with stock? You try to buy it at the cheapest price possible. Right. I'm not trying to buy... I'm not trying to buy a stock
Starting point is 00:24:02 when it's at its highest. I'm trying to buy at its lowest and get the maximum out of it so when when can i get the maximum out of a running back ojo from the time i get him into my camp probably the first three years and then what do they say now all of a sudden well you know they say oh oh not but you don't put you don't put a thousand twelve hundred touches on that man's body right you run him into the you tell me there's no value in him but you try to use him
Starting point is 00:24:30 three hundred different ways in the course of a season right you're right so there's no value why you give me three hundred why you give me three hundred touches if I ain't got no value
Starting point is 00:24:38 that's crazy I mean the running backs in the tough they're in the tough spot tough position obviously with the game especially heading toward being a more pass-happy league, they just don't value the position as much as they did during our era.
Starting point is 00:24:50 When I think about the AFC North, Jamal Lewis, Jerome Bettis, Peyton Hillis when he was with Cleveland. You played with Corey Dillon. Yeah, Corey Dillon. You know, it was run first, and we're going to run the ball to establish the pass. Now it's man, they're dropping back. They're throwing the ball 65 times. They're throwing the ball 65 times a game.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We only had 65 plays back when I was there. It's crazy. If you had a top-flag running back, man, your numbers, man, look at all them tight ends. They say, bro, if I got a guy running for 2,000 yards, how many passes do you think you're going to throw a game if you got a guy running for 2,000 yards, how many passes do you think you're going to throw a game if you got a guy running for 2,000 yards in a season?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Right, right, right, right. Bad news today for the Dallas Cowboys. Trayvon Diggs. Dallas Cowboys, everybody was starting to feel really good about the Cowboys. One of the best corners in the National Football League goes down with a torn ACL. How big of a blow is this to the Cowboys? one of the best corners in the National Football League, goes down with a torn ACL. How big of a blow is this to the Cowboys?
Starting point is 00:25:51 And should they still be considered the favorites to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl? I think Diggs, to me, Diggs is top five. Diggs is top five man-to-man. A lot of people will probably argue the fact that he gets beat a lot, but he does get a lot of picks. Yeah. Diggs is very, very, very smart. He likes to jump a lot, but he does get a lot of picks. Diggs is very, very
Starting point is 00:26:05 smart. He likes to jump a lot of stuff. He knows when to gamble. He likes to gamble at the right time. And most of the time, 98% of the time, he guesses right. He guesses right. Him and Gilmore have been a phenomenal tandem the past two weeks. They've obviously played together. I think it's
Starting point is 00:26:22 a blow. I think it's a blow, but I still think they are the favorites because that front four, that front five. They're relentless. Relentless. Makai's still there. So that is as special as Diggs is. They can plug somebody else in. It won't be Diggs.
Starting point is 00:26:38 It ain't going to be nothing like Trayvon. They can still find somebody and plug them in that can play and be efficient because of that front line and the pressure that Makai and the rest of the boys are going to put on. Yeah. You look at Micah. You look at D-Law or Diggy Zua.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You look at Williams. You look at Fowler. They got a NASCAR package where they can run six, seven, eight different guys, rotation guys. Nobody is fatigued. Right. And so they can just keep running them in and out and micah is relentless and he's he basically his hand is in the dirt even though a lot of time
Starting point is 00:27:12 he stands up yeah uh he's relentless in his rush it's gonna be very interesting who defensive player of the year is gonna be because tj watts not taking a back seat to anyone he's jumping up he's jumping up the ball also. So that is great. I remember last year they said the same thing when the corner on the opposite side went down to Trayvon.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And they're not going to miss a beat. Oh, yes, they did because they just singled that guy out. Right. And they just threw the ball up to him.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Right. And he either got beat or he P.I. Yeah, P.I. One or the other. I just, I mean, I'm not... I just feel bad. I feel
Starting point is 00:27:45 bad. I feel bad. And I'm glad I tell you what I am glad. I'm glad he got his money. He got his money. Yeah, he did. He got his money. Yeah, he did. He'll be able to come back. He'll be able to come back from that. Jadavious White, I think, if I'm not mistaken, towards ACL. Yeah. Maybe not last season, but the season before that.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And Jadavious White was able to come back. And he's playing well. He's playing well again this year. Trayvon is young. Obviously, with technology and the way they rehab now, I think he'll be fine. He'll be able to come back and
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Starting point is 00:31:43 I like the message message but the delivery was wrong the delivery of the message and what he was trying to portray and get across it didn't come off right because he didn't know how to say it the right way right if because you make it seem like he's playing bad because of the coaching coaching what the coaches are doing for people that are watching and listening if you played the game especially at a position as important as quarterback, at times they can overcoach you. And when you overcoach a player, the first thing they do when they get into a game, they're not playing fast and free. Mentally, you got to be playing fast and free because you ain't got time to be thinking. But if you overcoach, you get in there and you second guess yourself all the time. You second guess yourself all the time
Starting point is 00:32:25 instead of just playing and reading and reacting and that can happen. It can happen. I hope, and I hope that's the case. I hope this isn't a case where Justin Fields is trying to show that I can be a pocket passer. Because if you think about it, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:32:43 what we see from Justin Fields now we never saw at Ohio State right we didn't see these kind of legs right he was a pot he was a a pocket yes he could throw the ball outside of the pocket but most of its plays happened with him throwing the ball from the pocket so we didn't see this side of Justin Fields So I hope it's not a case because sometimes guys like, I'm going to show you. Nah, win the game. Show me later.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I don't need you to show me. You ain't got to prove it to me. Here's the thing about it, is he can be a pocket passer because he has a great repertoire of weapons to throw to. They just got DJ Moore. I don't know about a repertoire.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I don't know. Claypool ain't. Chase Claypool. All Chase need, a little confidence. Just a little confidence. Give him the ball. Get him going. That's it.
Starting point is 00:33:36 If he can touch the ball early, I'm telling you, you got to keep the players in the game. Boy, Chase can play, man. I'm telling you. Ocho, let me ask you a question. What if one of your teammates, one of your wide receiver teammates
Starting point is 00:33:51 said, we know we expect more out of Ocho. Ocho knows we expect more out of him. How would you have felt if one of your teammates had said that about you? That's what DJ Moore said. They had a talk with this man.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Right. You tell me you making 10, 12, 13 million dollars a year and I got to give you a pep talk? Sometimes that's all you need. Sometimes all you need is a little push, a little pick me up
Starting point is 00:34:20 and it got to come from people that's closest to you. That's like me being your friend. That's like me being your friend that's like me being your friend that's that's the problem when you have an entourage let me finish and you have an entourage and you got a bunch of yes men around you you need somebody that's going to tell you the truth instead of being yeah you doing okay no dj moore needed to say what he said all chase claypool need is a little confidence just a little bit because you know what happened when you get a little bit of confidence you continue to build on that allpool need is a little confidence, just a little bit. Because you know what happens when you get a little bit of confidence?
Starting point is 00:34:46 You continue to build on that. All he needs is a little foundation and something to build off of. I guarantee you he going to be all right. Let him test the ball early and let him work. I mean, he should have. I mean, didn't you get an indication? Pittsburgh moved on from you? Well, there was a reason.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I think that was more so internal. It had nothing to do with his actual play. Reduction. Pittsburgh moved on from you? Well, there was a reason. I think that was more so internal. It had nothing to do with his actual play. Reduction. He's a good... Yes, yes. You got to get him the ball in order for him to produce. You can't produce without the ball. You can't produce without the ball.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Ocho. Justin Field has Chase Claypool, Darnell Mooney, and DJ Moore. That is enough to get jiggy. My grandma could play quarterback for the Bears and get jiggy with the boys. I'm telling you, man. Listen to me. I got faith in them.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I get that. But here's the thing. Sometimes, you know, you as a quarterback, you try to be something that you're not ready to be just yet. And you try to prove to the world
Starting point is 00:35:41 that I can be a pocket passer. You know, when everybody used to want to be Peyton Manning, everybody wanted to be Tom Brady or Drew Brees to stand there. But now these linemen have gotten so big, so fast, so strong, you need mobility. You need to be able to not only throw the ball from the pocket, but you need to be able to escape the pocket, throw on the move, and get first downs.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Well, we know his legs are more than adequate. Right. But he has to be a better throw of the move, and get first downs. Well, we know his legs are more than adequate. Right. But he has to be a better throw of the football. As a quarterback, you're not going to run a team to a championship. This isn't 80s football. This isn't 90s college football where, you know, Oklahoma and Nebraska had those running quarterbacks and they could run you to a national championship.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Those days are over. But I have a question though. I have a question. Justin Field last year showed us he can use his legs and extend play. He showed us he can do that. He showed you he could get the number one overall draft pick. Do you
Starting point is 00:36:39 realize the Chicago Bears had the number one overall draft pick with Justin Field showing you what he could do with those legs. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So what you tell me. At Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:36:50 It looked good. At Ohio State, he showed you can also be a pocket passer. Yes. You don't want to be a run quarterback first. If you know you can throw from the pocket, then do just that. I don't want to be a run. Unless you have to run. Unless you have to run. The have to run the first thing was the
Starting point is 00:37:06 first thing you're hitting with he's not a pocket passer oh all he wants to do is run with the ball why show him you could do both because if you can do both you if you can be a dual threat it makes it that much more difficult for all defensive coordinators to deal with you to think about it we didn't't know Patrick Mahomes could run until the playoffs when he took off against, remember he had those runs against Tennessee and he had to run against Houston. People didn't even know Patrick, I didn't know
Starting point is 00:37:33 Patrick Mahomes could run like that. And then all of a sudden, they're like, hold on. We got to respect this man's leg. And last year, it was that run at the end, remember that run against Philly in the Super Bowl. He took off for 25 yards, Ocho. Right up the end. Remember that run against Philly in the Super Bowl? Oh, yeah. He took off for 25 yards on Joe. Right up the middle. Right up the middle.
Starting point is 00:37:48 So now we're starting to see. But what people fear most is this, his arm. Now, you've got to respect his legs. And so I think that's the next step for Justin Fields, is to make people respect his leg but but fear his arms right now they fear his legs and they have little to zero respect for his arm i think it's gonna come again i i'm it's only week two it's only week two but i understand his frustrations especially with the comments that he made again the message wasn't portrayed it wasn't delivered the right way so a lot of people
Starting point is 00:38:22 that are casual and just football fan from the outside watching probably thought it's like pointing fingers or saying or taking jabs at his coaches but that's not what he was doing the simple fact of the matter is let's simplify things you don't have to complicate everything you don't have to complicate and over coach that's all it is and i think once he's playing freely and he's playing freely you at your best when you're playing free and you're not thinking because you don't got time to think. You don't got time to think. Ocho, if DJ Moore says that, if a linebacker says that, you know, as a quarterback, everything you say gets split apart, dissected, and regurgitated. So basically, you've got to be buttoned up to the T.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Right. Everything. I mean, if you just give out the – that's the thing. Look it. I'm sure there's a lot of times Tom Brady didn't believe anything that he was telling, but he understood the ramifications of what he said. Yeah. Or Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or some of these other quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You got to understand when you play that, when you play the quarterback position, not only must you be a good quarterback, you must be a politician. Yeah. Because you got to lie. All the answers. All the answers politically correct. All of them. You got to lie. Oh, I will do all of this.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I make sure. I'm going gonna make sure everybody every i'm on all the unemployment right i'm gonna fix all the roads and bridges and then when you get off and you don't do none of that at all as a quarterback oh man i got we got the best coaches we got 53 of the best man them coaching we got right now hey they shouldn't be in they shouldn't be in high school coaching right but you that, but you don't say that. You don't say it, right. Because everything that you get said gets magnified
Starting point is 00:40:09 because of the position that you play. But there's one thing that can cure all that. One thing that can cure everything they said, a W. Win? Yeah, you got a W. Everything, a W. Everything is only magnified because they losing. That's it.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Ocho. That's it. Chicago ain't won a whole lot of games in a while, man. Yeah. Yeah, but they can turn around. Everything is only magnified because they losing. That's it. Ocho. That's it. Chicago ain't won a whole lot of games in a while, man. Yeah. Yeah, but they can turn around. You know why they can turn around? Because they got Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:40:33 They picked him high for a reason. They picked him high for a reason. Again, I'm going back to what I said about the Giants. Understand your player's strengths and your player's weaknesses. The coaches, the coaching staff, the head coach, they understand Justin Fields' strengths because he showed you what he can do in college. So why not take what he's doing in college and just implement it in today's,
Starting point is 00:40:55 instead of just saying, okay, this is my offense, we're going to run my offense. Instead of predicating the offense on what he does well. It's really easy. There's no need to complicate everything. True.
Starting point is 00:41:07 He definitely needs to do some of that. They need to come up with a scheme. But you know the thing is, we've gotten away from what the Bears, when you think of the Chicago Bears, what do you think about? Defense. Defense. Defense. They got nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:21 They got no defense. They got no defense, Ojo. That's not their identity. That ain't their identity. Not no more. They got no defense. That's not their identity. That ain't their identity. Not no more. This ain't 85. The middle linebacker was started by them. Bill George and Dick Buckus and Mike Singletary.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Ryan Malacca, yeah. Yeah, and all the defensive line. I mean, you know, Richard Dent and McMichael and Dan Hampton and all those guys. William Perry. You think of, yeah, you think of defense. The monsters of the midway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And now they defense. Whew. Cream puffs off. And listen, matter of fact, if you take that 85, that 85-bit defense, and you put them out there with them running gun boys and them RPO boys in today's game, man, they'll be running their heads and be spinning. Their heads will be spinning. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Too much. But here's the thing, though. They're not going to let you play football like that. Because all the... See, the thing back then, it was about intimidation. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 See, football at its premise is about intimidation. Right. It's about trying to break another man's will. Yeah. Yeah. All I need,
Starting point is 00:42:21 you run one slant, and Mike Singletary was trying to make sure that when you ran that slant in Mike Singletary was trying to make sure that when you ran that slant in the first quarter you refused to do it again in the third and fourth quarter but you can't do that no more
Starting point is 00:42:33 you can't intimidate nobody no more you can't so that's why think about it it used to be a badge of honor to run a slant route every Bill, Jerry and Harry of honor to run a slant route. Every Bill, Jerry, and Harry will run a three-step slant. Boy, it used to
Starting point is 00:42:50 they wouldn't let you run. Listen. Listen, you got to keep your head on the swivel back then. Can you imagine Steve Atwater or Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison? Man. Oh, man. Wait a wait a minute hold on i got another one
Starting point is 00:43:08 remember donovan darius yeah yes he coming to the party he coming down he coming downhill to the party i don't want no part of that i don't want no part of that so so they they've taken that intimidation factor so. So, you know, yeah. I mean, guys running there and casting slant, they jump up and... Getting pretty, doing the first down. Yeah. Yeah, alright. Yeah, alright. Them guys be doing none of that. Yes. Because you might do
Starting point is 00:43:35 first down, but you had to adjust your head. Pull the grass up out your face mask. You're exactly right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The game, Colorado on the road versus Oregon. The Ducks, the number two scoring offense led by Bo Nix. What's your expectation for the Buffaloes on the number 10 team in the country,
Starting point is 00:44:01 Colorado ranked number 19? Yeah. What are your expectations? It's going to be a big test. It's going to be a big test. It's going to be a big test for prime. It's going to be a big test for the offense. It's going to be a big test for that defense. I'm like prime.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I believe. Right. I believe. I believe. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm not sure what the game plan is going to be. The skill position on both sides of the ball, whether it's Oregon or whether it's Colorado, the skill positions skill position on both sides of the ball, whether it's Oregon
Starting point is 00:44:25 or whether it's Colorado, the skill positions are equal on both sides of the ball, even though Travis Hunter is out. I think the difference in the game will probably be the interior. It would probably be the interior. The O-line and D-line is what separates the two. Other than that, I'm hoping for a good game. I'm hoping for a close game. I'm not sure how long that Colorado Buffalo's defense can keep Bo Nix and that offense in check and how well Shador and Horn and those fellas can continue to score and keep up with the high-octane offense that the Ducks do have. But I'm really looking forward to a great game. And again, because I love Prime and everything that he's doing
Starting point is 00:45:07 and what he's been able to do in such a short amount of time in Colorado with so many people doubting him, I'm pulling for them boys to pull off in what I consider an upset. Well, everybody would consider upset being that I'm sure the Ducks are favored. They're 21-point dogs. Okay. So it'll be a huge upset. Maybe the upseason does far.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think the thing is for Colorado, they're going to have to score points. Yeah. I don't think – I don't know if their defense will see, but I think they're going to have – because we saw them give up 42. We saw them give up, what, 30-plus last week. So the defense is not quite what coach
Starting point is 00:45:46 prime would expect and so i think shador and that offense is going to probably need to score somewhere probably 35 42 points yeah in order to have a chance to win this game right or at least the the being contention to make it some close towards the end. The fact that Colorado State put up 35? Something like that. Obviously, the Ducks offense is much more high power than they are.
Starting point is 00:46:16 No disrespect to Colorado State, but it's facts. It's just what it is. Bo Nix is going to drop back. He's going to sling it. He's going to run when he need to run and he's another dude yeah he's another quarterback that's extremely dangerous yes he's he's a little he's more athletic than you think because remember he was a what a two year start at auburn maybe a three year start at auburn. I think he stayed an extra year because of COVID. Right. But he's very, very athletic.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Ocho, man, did you see your boy go viral last night? Who that? Me. Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, not only, listen, not only did you go viral, you really, you think you slick. Because I'm going to tell you, man, don't play on my top. You ain't slick.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I know what you're doing. I know. Listen, that little game you and Ms. Gomez played, you think you slick. That shit. That shit. Hey, you think you slick. Hey, I know what you're trying to do. I know what you're trying to do.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You valet, right? Were you valet in LA? I did. Do you have to call and tell them to bring your card? Or you just hand your ticket once you get outside? At some places you can call. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And they'll have your... When you come out, they'll have your car ready. But that wasn't a place like that last night. Okay, so I'm going to tell you what happened. I'm going to tell you what happened.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You and Ms. Gomez was on a date and you left a little earlier and the whole plan is, okay, I'm going to leave first and then when you you ready and you feel i've already left and i've got my car then you come on out after me so nobody knows what's going on so you think you slick listen i was trying to hook you i was trying to hook you up with somebody and you ain't even tell me you and selena gomez has i'm gone man selena goldman is young enough
Starting point is 00:48:00 to be my daughter or damn near my granddaughter man i don't listen listen my grandma told me my grandma told me i never forget when i was in kindergarten and i was trying to talk to this girl that was in the third grade my grandma told me baby go for what you know because age is nothing but a number well age is nothing but a number i got too many numbers i got too many numbers in my age for Selena Gomez. And trust me, you ain't got a lot of me. I already know the plays. I already know the plays.
Starting point is 00:48:30 It's just not checkers. What you going to do? You going to deny to me? You don't have a lot of me. I can see it in your face. I see it in your eyes. Let me tell you how I would have done it
Starting point is 00:48:38 if I was out with a celebrity. I'd have got my car and rolled up. Ma'am, did you request an Uber? And told her, get in the back. You know what I'm saying? And then we get down the road. She hopped in the front. That's how I played it off. You see how I did that, Ochoa?
Starting point is 00:48:53 You see how I did that? I was slick with it. I was slick with it. You know, you can't be slick to a can of oil. I was slick. I hear you, but you ain't fooling me. I know you're trying to laugh it off. You're trying to give me different analogies. But I know the play.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Promise God. I didn't, because I was talking to the proper, I didn't know, I saw, when I got there, I saw like one or two proper routes. But, you know, everything was cool. And then, so, I'm thinking, honest to goodness, I think she saw me leave
Starting point is 00:49:25 and then her team told her, said, well, this will be our opportunity because they'll probably get him. And so I was talking. And then when she came out behind me, I looked, but I really didn't, I know who she is, but I really didn't like,
Starting point is 00:49:38 I didn't really, you know, really, honestly, if I'd known it was her, I'd say, ma'am, I'd say, excuse I said ma'am you got a picture you got a picture when I would've I said excuse me ma'am can I take a picture
Starting point is 00:49:50 right right right I sure would I just out of asking as humble as I possibly could and got it you're a fan of Selena Gomez I don't
Starting point is 00:50:00 I don't really know what she does you don't know what Selena Gomez do I know she a singer but I can name one of her songs name one of her songs I can name I don't really know what she does. You don't know what Selena Gomez do. I know she a singer, but I can name one of her songs. Name one of her songs. I can name her.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Hell, I found out this morning it was Selena Gomez. Hell, what the hell you mean name a song? Hell, I can barely name her. Wait. I know what she got. 400 million IG followers. She's one of a couple of people. Cristiano Ronaldo, Herb,i uh i think uh the younger jenna kylie jenna got 400 000 uh 400 million how you know how you follow how you
Starting point is 00:50:32 don't know especially with that type of notoriety you don't know the song love you to love me the heart wants what it wants same old love no love. I know the sayings. I don't know the song. She got a song with my cousin. Who your cousin, Ocho? A$AP Rocky. No, I'm not. Listen.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Man, you got me. You became an A$AP Rocky. That's my cousin for real. My grandma and his grandma and sisters. Why would I sit here and lie, man? Man, that's what you do. No.
Starting point is 00:51:08 First of all, you and A$AP Rocky. A$AP will tell you, man. He will tell you. My grandma and his grandma are sisters, man. I'm telling you. He did a song with Selena Gomez called Good For You. I'm closer, Ken, to a Rottweiler than you and A$AP Rocky. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Why? You know what I'm saying? We throw thatottweiler than you and A$AP Rocky. Oh, my God. Why? You know what I'm saying? We throw that dog in. I'm closer kin to a German Shepherd than you and A$AP Rocky. You need to stop this. Why every time I say something, you always think I'm playing?
Starting point is 00:51:35 I'm not joking. Something, he is kin to me, bro. He's kin to me. I promise you. I'm not playing. I'm serious. I'm serious. Okay, watch closely.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Watch closely. I just have to take my glasses off. Watch my eyes. To'm serious. I'm serious. Okay, watch closely. Watch closely. I just have to take my glasses off. Watch my eyes. To the left, to the right, round and round. That's what I did for you with your clothes. No, I'm serious. No, that's my clothes. Don't tell nobody else that.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Oh, my goodness. You know a lot of people don't care who tell it. I know they don't. That's why I'm not lying to you, man. Not this time. Not this time. Why you keep telling me? Why you? to you, man. Not this time. Not this time. Just because that man got Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Nah, they ain't got nothing to do with it. They ain't got nothing to do with it. I ain't never heard you say that, I ain't never heard you say cunt before. What you mean, man? Dude, we got bitches together when we was adolescents. What did you talk about, man?
Starting point is 00:52:24 You ain't got no bitches, that man don't know together. We was adolescents. What did you talk about, man? I just can't come up. You ain't got no bitches. That man don't know you. Oh, now he... Okay. All right. Don't worry about it. I let him come out after this come out. I let him come out and vouch for me, man.
Starting point is 00:52:34 What I got to life up, man? You know who my cousin is? Who? You know who my cousin is? Who that? Drake. Drake. Drake who?
Starting point is 00:52:41 Drake London? Yeah, exactly. Drake London that played for the Falcons? See, what happened... Drake London that played for the Falcons? See, what happened, what happened. Drake London that played for the Falcons? My grandma, my great-grandma and his great-great-grandma was free. They were play sisters. See, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So we just matriculated that down. I'm not playing around though. My grandma and his grandma, they're sisters. Why you think we look alike? I just ain't got no hair. I just ain't got no hair. I just ain't got no hair. What you look alike? Man, we damn near twins.
Starting point is 00:53:09 We damn near twins. Look at me from the side. You look like a mug shot from where I'm standing right now. Huh? What you do? What you swipe? Old lady perks? Nah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I'm just telling you. You got to look at me from a certain camera angle. I mean, me and HW, that's alike. I'm looking at you crazy. God, I'm looking telling you. You got to look at me from a certain camera angle. I mean, me and A$AP, that's a life. I'm looking at you crazy. God, I'm looking at you like everybody else going to be looking at you when they hear this. Like, this man out here, man. Matter of fact, when A$AP see this,
Starting point is 00:53:33 he going to send you a tweet like, man, yeah, that's my cousin. I mean, when I see it. Hold on. Let me get back to it. Let me. Miss Gomez, Selena Gomez, I know you don't know who I am. She going to see this. She going to see this.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Shoot your shot. Shoot your shot. I ain't shoot no shot. I didn't but my name is Shannon Shaw. Shoot your shot. Shoot your shot. I ain't shooting no shot. I didn't want to pitch. I ain't shooting no shot. What the hell am I going to do with somebody 25? Is she 25?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah. Okay. I ain't know. I ain't know. I ain't know. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. Bruh. I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Bruh, I promise you, I drank two gallons of water a day. I ain't thirsty. I'm good. I'm good over here. You ain't good. You ain't good. I'm good. Listen, you can sit and fool the rest of the people. I ain't thirsty. I'm good. I'm good over here. You ain't good. Listen, you can say and fool the rest of the people, you ain't good. I'm great.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Your glass is crooked. Your glass is crooked. See, a woman, if you had a woman, she would have been able to tell you your glass is crooked. Listen to me. My staff is here tonight telling me they're crooked. I think my head crooked. it's certain things. I know they're crooked. I mean, my staff is here tonight telling me they're crooked. It's certain things.
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Starting point is 00:57:50 You got a house, right? You got a house, right? I got two of them. Why? Okay, listen to me. You know what? You got a house, but you ain't got a home.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Because your house ain't going to never be a home unless you got a woman to put a touch on it. Because that's what you need. I'm telling you, everything in your life will not be fulfilled until you get a woman in your her touch on it because that's what you need. I'm telling you, everything in your life will not be fulfilled
Starting point is 00:58:07 until you get a woman in your life. You got purpose. Listen to me. You got purpose. Until she puts you at your home. Listen, you got purpose, right? You know you're on life. You got a purpose in life, right?
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yes. You know, God created Adam and when God created Adam, there was an Eve, right? Listen to me. Stay with me now. Let me preach now. Who bit the apple?
Starting point is 00:58:25 Okay. Adam did. Only because Eve told him. All right. So right now. It wasn't because of Eve. Had Eve eaten the apple, nothing would have happened.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Wait. Adam bit the apple because who said to bite it? Eve. In the Bible, it says, order my steps and by and way which,
Starting point is 00:58:45 when I find a woman, what I want my couple runneth over with. Do you have a woman right now? No. Listen to me. Stay with me. Let me finish preaching. I want my pockets runneth over.
Starting point is 00:58:59 They going to runneth over. You talking about what? Your pockets going to runneth over because he who findeth a wife findeth the good thing. Find problems. Ain't no problems. The ones you're picking is the problem. You don't listen. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:59:12 That's one of the problems right there. You're stuck in your ways. Why, man? I'm telling you, you're not going to reach the pinnacle of the dreams that you want unless you find the right woman to help you get there. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Listen to me. As I was growing up, I don't know if I had dreams of being married. I don't know. I didn't say nothing about that. I didn't say you had to get married. I didn't get the shack. My grandma didn't want me to shack. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Like, you just, you're hard headed. And so whoever going to have to enter into a cohabitation agreement, you know what cohabitation agreements are? I'm telling you, you got to listen to somebody. I don't know. You might not.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I'm listening. I listen to my financial guy. I listen to my lawyer. You know, you know what? I need to be your financial guy. Not the person you're. You know what? I need to be your financial guy, not the person you're dealing with because your ass wouldn't be flying no goddamn private jets
Starting point is 01:00:10 and you wouldn't be eating at them goddamn rich-ass five-star restaurants in goddamn Hollywood with celebs coming in and out of. Ocho, don't you think something wrong that the person that works the hardest for the money spends the least of it? Think about that. Why should I work the hardest for the money spends the least of it? Think about that.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Right. Why should I work the hardest and spend the least of my money? Because I promise you, I already know. I already told my kids, my money and my last breath going to run out at the same time.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So, y'all sit around with me. Don't do my babies like that. Y'all. Don't do my babies like that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do my babies like that. Y'all. Don't do my babies like that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Don't do that. I'm going to get you right. Ocho. I'm going to get you right. Ocho. Yeah. Look at this, Ocho. Can you see this?
Starting point is 01:00:56 Even the ball blew every time. You know what I'm talking about? The ball blew. I don't do nothing. Somebody give you that? No, no, don't worry about it. I bought it. Hey, let me, speaking of basketball, I don't worry about it. I bought it.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Hey, speaking of basketball, I can't wait the basketball season to get here. I hope we still are going because I have some great basketball stories and great basketball. Who your team? I'm from Miami. I'm a Heat fan. I'm a Heat fan. We're going to get Damian Lillard, too. Oh, I wasn't supposed to say that. My bad.
Starting point is 01:01:22 You can say it. My bad, my bad, my bad. I hope you do get it. My bad, my bad. No, I'm telling you he's coming, though. I'm telling you he's that. My bad. You can say it. My bad. My bad. My bad. I hope you do get it. No, I'm telling you he coming, though. Selena 31. Selena 31. Oh, yeah, you good. You good. You can shoot. I'm 31. Shoot what?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen. Man, I ain't shot a basketball in 35 years. I'm definitely shooting no 30-year-old. How old are you? 55. Oh, you want somebody your age. I didn't say that. I don't want nobody.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I'm good. What part of my good do you get? You are not good. You don't have to lie to me. Shani, you're not good. I'm great. I can see it in your face. You want to be young?
Starting point is 01:01:57 You want to stay young? You seem hungry. I'm trying to help you out. They say you're only as young as they say you only you only as young as the woman you feel man you I feel 33 34
Starting point is 01:02:09 listen I'm listen I can basketball hey LeBron your boy huh why you keep why you keep
Starting point is 01:02:17 first of all people keep asking me man man Ocho really love you man he trying to hook it up yeah I'm gonna get you right I'm gonna get you right I'm gonna get you right I'm gonna get you right'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right. I'm right. I'm going to get you right. What makes you think I'm missing something in my life? Because I can tell by the look on your face. I can tell.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I know. I mean, I might be a little sleep deprived. You have a house, but it's not a home. You need a woman. You need guidance. You need assistance. We all need guidance. You need assistance. We all need it in life. And you being
Starting point is 01:02:47 stubborn, you're not going to reach where you want to get to without the help and the touch of a woman. Trust me. You can have as many assistants as you want. You can fly as many private jets as you want. You can eat as many five-star meals as you want. Life ain't going to
Starting point is 01:03:03 be complete until you find that one. And I'm going to make sure you get it. I'm going to make sure you get it. I'm good. Come hell or high water. You're going to get it. I got you. Well, it ain't going to rain for about 20 years then
Starting point is 01:03:17 because there ain't going to be no high water. Trust me, I got you. Man, where's my baby at? You lucky. I don't want you to have me. You lucky, you lucky. You need a friend like me. You need a friend like me.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You got somebody, because I ain't never seen her. I'm beginning to doubt whether you got somebody. What you mean? I ain't never seen her. What you mean? Google work? What part? Google work?
Starting point is 01:03:42 Google work? No. When you look up stats, you use Google, don't you? No. Because I already know the stats. I already know the stats. Where your woman at right now? Huh?
Starting point is 01:03:58 Tell her to come down there. Tell her to come down there right now. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Don't play at me. I got me somebody. Don't do that. Don't play at me. I got me somebody. Don't do that. Don't play with my talk.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Shoot, I do this. Let me see where she at. I mean, you looking around like you about to get robbed. Nah, it's 1237. She ain't even home. That's exactly. You know how that be. Are you in Miami?
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's robbed. It's robbed. Yeah, I already know. You looking around. It's all right. know how that be. Are you in Miami? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's rough. It's rough. Yeah, I already know. You look at the ride. It's all right. It's all right. She know where home at, though.
Starting point is 01:04:31 She know where home at. She know where home at. What's your lady's name? Huh? What's your lady's name? Sherelle. Yeah, Sherelle. You see that smile?
Starting point is 01:04:44 You see that smile? The singer? You see? You talking about the singer? I know a singer? Sherelle. Yeah, Sherelle. You see that smile? You see that smile? The singer? You see? You talking about the singer? I know a singer named Sherelle. Nah. Nah. Not that one.
Starting point is 01:04:51 But Sherelle. Sherelle and Ryan O'Neal? Nah. I know you're talking about... Alexander O'Neal? Nope. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 01:04:58 You see that smile on my face when I said it? That's how I want you. That's how I want you. I got a smile on my face. No. That ain't... Listen. That's how I want you. I got a smile on my face. No, that ain't a... Listen, that's that mask with the smile and behind, you're crying. I'm telling you, you're crying.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I'm going to get you right though. Trust me, I'm going to get you right. Hey, give me a couple more years, I'm going to be crying on the Bugatti. Nah, come on, man. Don't do that. You don't need that. You don't need that. You don't need that. What?
Starting point is 01:05:27 Don't do that. Don't you know Bugatti? No man, no, no, no, no. What I need? What I need? What kind of car I need? Let me see, you 55? Get you a Lincoln.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Get you a Lincoln, get you a Cadillac. A Lincoln what? Town car. Yeah, get you a Lincoln, man. Man, I wish I... Man, I ain't going for Lincoln. You going through a midlife crisis. You going through a midlife crisis.
Starting point is 01:05:46 You're going through a midlife crisis. That's what it is. Ocho. You're going through a midlife crisis. Ocho. You know, I'm going to get a BMW. That's what I'm going to get. A what?
Starting point is 01:05:55 A BMW. No, that's like in your 40s. That's in your 40s. That's when you're in your 40s. 55, you got to get a car that goes with your age. Since you complain about women being a certain age, you can't talk to them. You got to get a car That goes with your age Since you complain about Women being a certain age You can't talk to them You lying to me You can't be 55
Starting point is 01:06:08 And no Bugatti man What are you doing? I ain't I said I ain't Said I'm getting no Bugatti You just said You said I'm getting A what?
Starting point is 01:06:17 I'm getting a BMW Another BMW Get the i3 I'm getting the i7 No Get the i3 7 7 is bigger than a 3 No you don't need Get the i3. I'm going to get the i7. No, get the i3. Seven.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Seven is bigger than a three. No, you don't need no big ass. You don't need no big ass i7, man. Get you efficient. You a hater. I drive a smart car. I've been driving my smart cars since 2006. I don't need all that big stuff. Because let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I need it. No, you don't. You Shannon Sharp. You Shannon Sharp. You Shannon Sharp. They done Googled how much you make. You ain't got to do nothing to stunt no more. You ain't got to do nothing. Just be you. But I also that's why
Starting point is 01:06:55 I drive in a BMW because I'm not trying to devalue myself. I don't want nobody to think I'm trying to show somebody up. I work hard. I'm going to get that. Nah, you get you a BMW i3 because you don't have to compensate for nothing else. You that boy.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I'm giving you the confidence you need. You that boy. You that. I've been there. I can't even say the word, but yeah. I'm going to be that ninja in a BMW. I3. I3.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Save your money. Save your. Come on, man. I3. I3. Save your money. Save your... Come on, man. Save them. Hold on. I'm saving my money for who? Huh? I'm saving my money for who?
Starting point is 01:07:33 A rainy day. A rainy day. You don't know what might happen. You don't know what emergency might occur. Family might need you. Just something. I know you're making a grip. I know you're making a grip right now.
Starting point is 01:07:42 You never know what might happen. Hold on. I prepared for're making a grip. I know you're making a grip right now. You never know what might happen. Hold on. I prepared for a rainy day. Okay. I prepared. Keep preparing because God said, can I give you another scripture? What is it? I ain't going to take it
Starting point is 01:07:57 down. I done preached enough tonight. I done preached enough tonight. Wait, hold on. She ain't answer the phone. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I know. I look at you. Hold on. Now you running. She ain't answer the phone. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I know. I look at you. Now you running. She ain't answering the phone. I just thought about something. Yeah. It just hit me. I'm like, wait a minute. She put you on the client. It's 12.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Nah, she just didn't answer. I don't know. Let me tighten up. I know she ain't. She busy. God damn, you don't play at me now. Shoot. It's 1242. Normally, I'd be asleep. I'd be asleep right now. Man, she answer again. It's rough out here, man. Oh Lord, she answer again. Man, it's rough out here, man. I don't know. I don't know what to do. Got a sad face.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I don't know. Go don't know what to do. Got a sad face. I don't know. Go upstairs and cry on your pillow. Why you do me like that? What am I gonna cry for? I'm finna go get on the game and play FIFA. Ban a new FIFA out. You play FIFA? E-A-F-C. Yeah, that's what I'm finna do.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Nah. I'm gonna go up here and play Eyes Closed. You ever played that game? Nah. It's called lay your hand on a pillow and close your eyes. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I need another topic because I don't feel like getting off. We could have like an extended version. We could have an extended version. How long we been going? How long we been going so far? How long we been going? An hour?
Starting point is 01:09:25 Hour. That's it? Yeah. Let me get another 30 minutes. going? How long have we been going so far? How long have we been going? An hour? An hour. That's it? Let me get another 30 minutes. Give me another 30 minutes. I'm feeling good tonight. I got a flight. I got a flight to Cincinnati tomorrow. Yeah, I tell you what. You better save some of that for Sunday. Hold on. How'd you find out that I was on TMZ with Selena Gomez?
Starting point is 01:09:44 Oh, yeah. Twitter. Twitter told me. Twitter was like, boy, look at your boy. And I looked. And as soon as I seen it, I seen the play. I was like, yeah, they think they slick. They think they slick.
Starting point is 01:09:55 And then you go. No. They're going to tell me, oh, man, TMZ did it wrong. No, they didn't. Hold on. There she go right here. Let me show you how you put them in check. Watch this. Take notes. Hey, baby. Let me show you, let me show you how, how you put them in check. Watch this. Take notes.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Hey, baby. Hello? How you doing? Hello? Ah, no, no, no, no, no. Why, you told me you... Hello? Hey, listen.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Y'all still filming? Hey, see? Hey, come here, get, get... All right, let me, let me talk to her for a minute excuse me y'all hey hey don't don't do that don't do that call your i call your phone twice now see that's why i won't sign the goddamn prenup that's what i'm talking about shit like that don't bet don't sign it don't sign no prenup sherellelle. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Sherelle, don't sign no... Make him sign that prenup. We want prenup.
Starting point is 01:10:50 We want prenup. I forgot... I'm Team Sherelle. I forgot you was filming. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. I'm Team Sherelle. All right. Wait, I can't...
Starting point is 01:11:00 I can't say I love you. I got company watching, baby. Don't do that. All right, say it. Say it. Oh, he in pack? Come on, though. Don't do that. All right, say it. Say it. Oh, he in pack? He in pack. Come on, it's people watching.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Don't do that. Don't do that. Nah, look. Go ahead and go. Do kissy faces. Do kissy faces. Oh, baby, go ahead. Do the right here. Oh, she said it.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Do the right here, Ocho. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at there, Ocho. Look at you right there. Look at you. Look at you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Hey, come on.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Don't embarrass me like that, baby. Hey, you know how I feel, though. You know how I feel. Look at you. Look at you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Hey, come on. Don't embarrass me like that, baby. Hey, you know how I feel, though. You know how I feel. On game. Go ahead and do it. On game, twin. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Hey, go ahead and do this, Ocho. Do this right here. Come on, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Come on. Come on, you're making me blush. Don't do that. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:11:38 You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Hey, I'm blushing. Weak in the palm. This man so weak right here. He ain't picked. I thought you were tough. Hey. Hey, I'm blushing. Weak in the palm. This man so weak right here, he in fact... I thought you were tough. Hey, man you know I'm a thug man. I don't really...
Starting point is 01:11:53 I don't really move like that in public, you feel me? Yeah, you do. I like to show that side behind closed doors. You probably... You big on PDA. What PDA stand for?
Starting point is 01:12:04 Public... Display of... Yeah, public display of affection. Oh, no, I don't do that What PDA stand for? Public, public. Display of, yeah, public display of affection. Oh, no, I don't do that, man. I'm a real one, man. You be kissing with the, yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. I've been with her four years. I ain't even kissed her yet.
Starting point is 01:12:14 You that type. You that type. Listen, I've been with her four years. I ain't even gave her a kiss yet. I know your type. Nah, you don't. Kiss on the first date and everything. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:12:21 First what? But she got to earn this. Kiss on the first date. Kiss who? You got to earn this. You who? You got to earn this. You got to earn. You got to pay for this. You didn't hear what I said. We've been together four years.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I ain't even kissed her yet. I don't play that. You got to earn that. Stop playing with me, man. Yeah. That's how you got to be. Huh? I look good. Man, I'm happy for you. You do seem happy, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I am. And listen, I'm in a great space. I'm in a great space. I'm not saying I'm perfect and nobody is. But the fact that I'm striving to be based on what's on my hip, man, that shit is a great feeling, man. That shit is a great feeling. You know how you prepare for a game every Sunday? Yeah. And you know the time and the energy and the hours that
Starting point is 01:13:12 you put in to prepare for that game so you can get the results when it's time to go? That's how I'm preparing, man. I'm preparing like it's game time. You feel me? Yeah. Progress is being made. Progress is being made. I'm in a great space. I'm happy. And I want that for you. I want that for you. And we're going to get it.
Starting point is 01:13:35 We're going to find it. We're going to get you one. That's my first time seeing your significant other. Right. And to use a football term, you out-pointed your coverage. Oh, she like that, huh? She look good, don't she? Yeah. Yeah, she wanted them.
Starting point is 01:13:49 She wanted them. I got her. She chased, she jumped in my DM, too. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. Oh, no, that's a lie. That's a lie. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's rewind. Let's rewind. Because everything I say, you telling me I'm lying. First, I'm telling you ASAP is my cousin because my grandma and his grandma are sisters.
Starting point is 01:14:05 That's not a lie. You need to know what you meant to say is that you're going to stop saying that ASAP. You didn't mean ASAP as your cousin. You meant you were going to
Starting point is 01:14:14 stop telling me that ASAP. Nah. You hear my smoke detector? You can't hear it. Yeah. Yeah, I heard it. I've been hearing it. I didn't want to say that.
Starting point is 01:14:23 You need to get, you know when we was growing up, we couldn't buy no Durace't want to say that. You need to get... You know when we were growing up, we couldn't buy no Duracell or no air grade. You had to get that cat battery. You remember that battery with the cat on it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Listen, listen. A pack of 9-volt Duracell batteries right now, Energizer, Duracell, $20. Yeah. Who paying for that? Shit. The devil is alive? Nope. That bitch going to beep all day.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I ain't paying for that. Man, batteries expensive as hell. In this economy? In this economy, I'm not spirit. You think I'm going to buy a pack of batteries for $24. Actually, it's $24.78. I've calculated the shit myself. Not happening.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You heard it? It just did it again. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. That's a black household. We should be used to that. I'm super used to it. You know, my grandfather said,
Starting point is 01:15:17 boy, be as cheap as you want to, but don't be cheap to yourself. I ain't going to be cheap to me. I'm going to be cheap to myself. I am. And I'm going to bless others. Matter of fact, I want you to start tipping the way I do.
Starting point is 01:15:29 I promise you. I promise you. I promise you. Do me a favor. I spend most of my money on other people. Now, I can assure you of that. Now, I don't know a whole lot, but I know that's factual.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Okay, I like that. I like that. I want you to do me a favor. What? The month of October, every time you eat out, I want you to tip the same way I do at restaurants. I want you to give every waiter and server, regardless of service,
Starting point is 01:15:54 tip them a thousand dollars every time. Man, you out your mind. I want you... I go out, that's a private jet flight from here to Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. You just said you get back
Starting point is 01:16:07 and obviously the service industry, the service industry doesn't make a livable wage. That's a problem with America right now. So, I need you to get on, to get on the train with me every time you eat out
Starting point is 01:16:19 at one of these nice establishments or wherever you go, tip $1,000 every time. I need you to promise me, promise me you'll do that. I tip according to service. No, don't do that. Let me ask you a question. Let me tell you why you should do it.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Let me ask you a question. Okay, I will hear you. If you was catching 40 passes a year for 500 yards, if the bingo's going to pay you the same, if you catching 100 balls for 1,400 yards, they base your pay on production, right? I don't like that analogy. So, I'm going to base their tip on service.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I don't like that analogy. Let me give it to you a little further. Let me tell you why I tip 1,000, 1K everywhere I go, no matter what, regardless of service. Eight being people in the world. So, if you work in the service industry,
Starting point is 01:17:02 understand the number of personalities you got to deal with, the number of personalities you got to deal with, the number of egos, rude people, people that feel that you should be at their beck and call. Then people sending food back. People in the service industry have to deal with so much. I just want to come in and make sure your day... No, you don't. No, you don't. I'm not giving you no $1,000 when I order a burger medium with meat and bun
Starting point is 01:17:29 and fries and ginger ale. Yes, you can. I'm not giving you... I'm not tipping no $1,000 for no $40 meal. Yes, you can. If you can fly private, you can tip $1,000 every time.
Starting point is 01:17:39 You can. And you will. Promise me the month of October you'll do it. Please, I'm asking you. I'm begging you. Ocho. Come on, moneybags. I can. Can is October you'll do it. Please, I'm asking you. I'm begging you. Ocho, Ocho. Come on, moneybags.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I can. Can is the ability to do something. You're absolutely right. I can, but I will not. I'm asking you, please, as my brother. And the answer is no. As my brother. Regardless of their service.
Starting point is 01:17:57 No. No. As a matter of fact, I'm filing paper tomorrow to end our brothership. You're really getting out of this. I would do I do what I normally do. I normally do. I normally do 40 to 45 percent. OK, OK, OK.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I like it. I like it. I mean, I mean, it's just I just I've always wanted to give back. I mean, if it's somebody if it's somebody I know, I do. If it's somebody I know, they're regular, I just, I've always wanted to give back. I mean, if it's somebody I know, I do. If it's somebody I know, they're regular, because they know me. As soon as I sit down, they're bringing me the ginger ale. Right. Mr. Sharp, the normal?
Starting point is 01:18:34 Right. Oh, if you tell me the normal, oh, you good. You already know. Whatever the meal costs, I'm going to double or triple what the meal costs. Listen, this is just something that you're stubborn. You're stubborn, right? And you're fighting me on this. There's two things. There's two things that's going to double or triple what the meal cost. Listen, this is just something that you're stubborn. You're stubborn, right? And you're fighting me on this. There's two things.
Starting point is 01:18:47 There's two things that's going to happen before December. I guarantee you before December. Before December comes, I'm going to find you a woman. I'm going to win the lottery? No, I'm going to find you a woman. And number two, I'm going to get you tipping the way I do before December gets here. I guarantee you. I can guarantee you that.
Starting point is 01:19:04 And I'm going to stand on that. I'll tell you what, and we're going to end on this. I'll tip the way you do if you eat the way I do. Eat what? What you eat? Eat the way I do. Now you eat. Chicken, rice, broccoli, fish,
Starting point is 01:19:20 carrots. I eat chicken at a Cuban spot. I eat chicken breast. White rice, sweet plans. I do. I eat chicken at a Cuban spot. I eat chicken breast. White rice. I do. I eat chicken. I eat rice. You eat like I eat.
Starting point is 01:19:31 You want me to tip like you? Eat like I eat for a year. A what? A year. I asked you to tip for a month. I asked for one month. You told me I eat like I eat for a year. Eat like I eat for a month then.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Okay, bet. I ain't going out to eat no more. Oh, wait, hold on, hold on. Thank you, got you. Wait, don't have to. I got you. You see how I did that? You see how I walked you into that trap?
Starting point is 01:19:51 Hold on. She, she, she. We ain't got no more time yet, huh? No, we out of time. All right. All right, she was just. I see, I see. She was just.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I was talking to you Saturday night. She was just finna walk in. I was finna tell her about the girl we got for you, but we'll wait till next time. No, I don't want you to tell me nothing. And you know what, Ocho? I'll talk to you Sunday. Yeah.
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