Nightcap - Nightcap - Bears Win Big, Kelce & Swift, Vacation Destinations

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Chicago Bears win over the Washington Commanders, Shannon's interview with Marshawn Lynch on 'Club Shay Shay', the latest with Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, vacation destinations, and more.  #Volume #Herd #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us again for another edition of Nightcap. I'm your favorite ump, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite, number 85, one of the best route runners in the NFL history. No, no, no, the best. One of the best.

No, no, no. First of all, can I finish? Okay, go ahead. Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Let me tell you, you're not better than Jimmy Smith you're not better than Keenan McCardell you're not better than Aaron Cox you're not better than Flipper Anderson

so stop you're not better than Sterling Sharp stop okay you finished let me know you're done I've been done I was done when you started let me tell you something everybody you just named with all due respect, Jimmy Smooth, one of the best to ever do it,

and don't get the credit he deserves, but a man, Nathaniel Person, out there running routes like this and stopping on a dime. There's only one person. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me stay. Stay with me now.

There's only one person that would come out the huddle, that would beg for bump and run, tell the person my route at the line of scrimmage before the snap of the ball and still get open. And if you need footage, I'll have NFL film provide you with that footage. Only one person was doing that. And Devontae Adams better right runner than you.

Oh, child. Yeah, see? See what I did right now? I like where you're going, but he is saucy. Let's stay on topic though. Let's stay on topic. So like I said, one of the best route runners in NFL history the best and Devontae will tell you what

no y'all pull the tape out there of the guys that I just let me go look at the right and the wrong you pull that on me too why you doing that Chicago Bears dominate the commanders Justin Fields look better a lot better tonight.

He was 15-29, only 52% completion. 282 yards, four touchdowns. DJ Moore had a monster game. Ten targets, eight catches, 230 yards. The Bears run the air out of the ball also, 178 yards rushing. And the 14-game losing streak that the bears had coming into the game is no more. I mean,

think about this in his first 30 career game, Justin field has zero for touchdown pass games. Now he's had two in the last five days. What do you think was the biggest difference in the Justin fields that we saw? Let's just say the first half of last week, last Sunday and for the entirety of the ball game tonight? I think tonight's game and the difference between tonight's game and last week's game is the defense.

It's the defense. The defense set the tone from the start of today's game in the first half. You've got to remember now, the commanders didn't get going until the second half and finding low efficiency and being able to run and throw the ball into the second half of the game. At the end of the first half, the commanders, they had nothing but 49 yards. Total offense. Total offense. So it all started with the defense. They coming into the game, they only had two sacks in two games. They just had five in one night. They had five tonight. So I'm really happy,

not just for Justin, Justin Fields, but for also for coach Everfloos, who obviously had again, 14, 14 losses in a row. The comeback behind, uh, lost to the Broncos last.

Was it? It was the Broncos, right? They lost. Yeah. They lost. Yeah. They were up at one point,

28, seven. Listen, the, the bears defense was allowing almost 29 points a game, man. 29 points a game. There are not many games you're going to win when your defense is giving up 29 points a game unless you've got an all-star team on offense or a bunch of track runners or something.

But again, on Justin Fields' end, I'm happy. I'm very happy. Let me pause a little bit and say this. is a something. But again, on Justin Fields' end, I'm happy. I'm very happy. Let me pause a little bit and say this. I'm very happy that Justin Fields had the game he did because I was sick and tired of hearing the people that obviously if they went 0-5, they were obviously going to tank and do what they needed to do to make it necessary

to get Caleb Williams. I was sick and tired of get the Caleb Williams talk. What's the young fella from, from North Carolina. That's Drake May. Yeah. Drake May. And that's all I, that's all I kept hearing. Tonight was a small sample size bears fans, that organization, myself, that was a small sample size of what the bears often can do offensively and defensively. And what you get when you can facilitate the ball, you can run a ball.

Khalil Herbert, nine yards a carry in the first half, obviously going out because of the ankle injury. But what they were able to show tonight was a small similar size. If they can find some type of consistency week in and week out, regardless of who you're playing, regardless of who you're playing, find some type of consistency and have that well-balanced offense and get DJ Moore the ball,

get Darnell Mooney the ball, and just do it. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. They only had three guys to catch passes tonight. They only had three guys that were targeting. I didn't even mention that. I didn't even mention the tight end, Cole Komet. Oh, my goodness.

Man, 6'6". 6'6". It's his third TD in two weeks. Yep. Man, unbelievable mismatch, man. They got to take advantage of that, man. Use the players you have at your disposal to your advantage, and this is what you get. Well, I've always felt this way.

I've always felt it's easier to call plays from behind than it is ahead. Because a lot of times you get ahead and you're like, okay, should I keep my foot on the gas? And then if you lose the game, it's like, why don't you run the ball? But then if you take the ball out of his hand, they say, well, why'd you take the ball out of his hand? He had it going. So it's very, very hard.

We saw what happened in the Super Bowl. We saw a 28-3 lead. A team tried to keep their foot on the gas, allowed the other team to come back and win the Super Bowl. We saw a 28-3 lead. A team tried to keep their foot on the gas, allowed the other team to come back and win the Super Bowl when they should have run the football. It's easy to second guess. When you're behind,

you can just throw caution to the wind. Everybody's already expecting you to lose. So what do we have to lose? We're already down by 17. We're down by 21 or 28 points. And so for the Bears to remain, because for a second, they got kind of dicey there. It got 20 to 30 to 20.

They almost got a two-point conversion to make it a one-score game. But give the Bears credit. You're right. Matt Eberflus did a great job. Give his coordinator, because this is what I'm tired of. If a quarterback plays well, the offensive coordinator gets no credit. Right. If the quarterback plays well, the offensive coordinator gets no credit. If the quarterback plays bad,

he gets all the blame. It goes, so we're talking about Justin Fields and credit, he played well. The completion percentage is not where he wanted to be, but he had some big-time throws. DJ Moore finished him off with some big-time runs, but I thought the

OC did a great job of calling the game and putting him in a situation, letting him get comfortable. Because just like anything else, once a quarterback gets comfortable, now the field just opens up for him. I think it's very important. And I say this all the time when it comes to offensive players, especially the quarterback position. You have to understand as the offensive coordinator calling plays, understand your player strengths and your players weaknesses, and always predicate the offensive play calling towards the strengths of your quarterback and those he has, those he has surrounding them and everything will be okay. Of course, it's easy for me to say sitting behind, you know, a mic and a couch and a camera. But when I think about it,

when I think about it in simple form, there's no need to complicate things. I think sometimes coordinators get in their way overthinking and complicating things instead of just doing what their players do best. Right. I think sometimes, you know, give the quarterback an easy throw. Let him get it out. Let him get a stop route.

Let him get something. Let him be like, oh, yeah, I'm ready tonight'm ready tonight a lot of times you know you start your first pass you're trying to go 15 20 yards down the field give him something easy now the wide receiver he just wants the ball just give him the ball he just wants to feel it so he's like yeah i'm in the game now it's just like a defensive player once they get that that one hit in they're like oh yeah now we're ready to play you football. You settle in. You settle in. But Chicago really needed this game.

They really needed this game because that is a football town. I understand the Bulls and the Cubbies, but, man, the Bears are synonymous because of the harshness of the winners. And so the monsters of the midway. So you expect a defense. Now, they don't play defense like they once did. And rest his soul, they lost one of the great defenders of all time, not just in Chicago, but in the NFL, Dick Butkus.

Tell you a story. My very first Super Bowl that I, when it was out here in Pasadena, Buffalo played the Cowboys. The game was in Pasadena, Buffalo played the Cowboys. The game was in Pasadena, but the NFL put all the players that coming in, obviously, for the festivities, we were in L.A. Right. So I wake up, I get up one morning, I'm going to breakfast, and I'm late to going to breakfast.

Sitting at a table is Dick Buckus, Ray Niskey, and Deacon Jones. Ooh, Deacon Jones. They're at a table is Dick Buckus, Ray Nisky, and Deacon Jones. Ooh, Deacon Jones. They're at a table. So I get my breakfast buffet style. I get my breakfast. I go sit down at a table by myself. And I'll never forget Ray Nisky say, little Sterling, come on over here. Come on over.

You can sit with us. We don't bite. So I get my stuff. I can sit with us. We don't bite. So I get my stuff. I go sit with them. And, you know, they started talking, Deke. You know, hey, I'm Deacon Jones, blah, blah, blah. You know, telling me all the stories. Dick Butkus introduced himself.

Ray Nisky, because he's a Packer. My brother played for the Packers. He just starts. He's like, you good, but you're not your brother like bro you just met me how you gonna say that you just made me you don't know what you don't know i might be in my feelings i might feel it sometime right right right but uh they he was he was i mean he was he was great introduced himself tall you know love the way you conduct yourself you and your brother your your mom should be proud of the way you know your grandma should be proud the way she raised you guys.

And so, man, we the NFL and this family, we lost a legend today. Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time. I don't really have. You know, I wasn't very fortunate. I wasn't fortunate enough as you were to to be in a legend's a legend's presence like Dick Buckus. But obviously, you know, knowing what he meant to the NFL and to the organization of the Bears throughout the years and being one of the most feared men to play the middle back middle linebacker position. He is someone that I should. Yeah. The Bears are known for that. Bill George is the first guy thought of to play the middle linebacker position.

And so now you get Buccas and then you get Mike Singletary. Now, and then after that, you get Erlacher. So the lineage, all those guys are Hall of Famers. And so now, when you think of Bears, you think of the middle linebacker position. It's kind of like, what I'm trying to think of, what would it be like? I guess, what? I'm trying to think of the captain of the Yankees. Right, right. uh what who i'm trying to think of of the captain of the yankees right uh how prestigious that is to be a middle lot yes to be one of those to what be one of those guys to be thought of

like a buck is like a singletary like a bill george like a brian erlacher one of those guys uh but it was a great honor and going to the hall of fame and when the hall of fame luncheon you sit around and you see dick buckets and you see mean Joe green and you see all, you see this guy, you see that guy. You like, you just look around and you just like, man, I didn't, I didn't didn't see those guys on television, but I heard stories about them and I watched, you know, I watched, you know, watch them play on, on, on, on the internet. Once it came up,

once it became available and to actually be in their presence. Now I saw, you know, I saw Mean Joe and some of those other guys play, but it was an incredible honor to be in the presence of them and the respect that, that the younger guys that came along, like myself and even the LTs who's arguably, you know, a God in that room and of itself, the way they paid homage to those guys that came before them, it's just an unbelievable feeling.

Oh, yeah. I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but we released, I sat down with Beast Mode last week. Yeah, that's my boy now. That's my boy now. So I sat down with Beast Mode, and you know, Beast Mode didn't do a whole lot of talking when he was in the NFL.

And, you know, basically his famous line was, I'm just here so I don't get fined. I don't get fined. I'm just about that action, boss. Yeah, that's it. And so he opened up and he said some things that caught a lot of people's attention and it went viral. You know, one of the things that he said is that I don't bunt with Pete. He said he don't bunt with him.

And so I'm like clarifying because we're talking about Russ and we're talking about Pete Carroll at the time. So I wanted some clarification because I didn't want any ambiguity. I was like, you don't bunt with who? He said, I don't F with Pete. He said, I don't F with Pete. You're not hip. No, no, I don't F with Pete. He said, I don't F with Pete. You're not hip.

You're not hip. No, no, I'm hip, but I didn't know which one he was talking about. I needed clarity. Was he talking about Russ or was he talking about Pete Carroll? So I just wanted clarity on who he was talking about, not what he was saying. I understood clearly. That's why I wanted clarification.

But he also said, kind of gave a backdrop of kind of when it changed, when the team kind of went, because Pete wasn't holding Russ accountable in practice. And then they had a meeting, a kumbaya meeting, where they go and they can voice their grievances. And Pete stood up and said, y'all don't say anything to Russ, y'all talk to me. Y'all don't say anything to Russ, y'all talk to the quarterback coach. And they say, wait a minute, we hold everybody accountable here. That's what we built, that's what we were built on.

And so he was telling the story also that they played the Titans, he had a great game, their defense wasn't that good, especially the secondary, Russ thought he was going to have a big day, he didn't, Bismo had a big day. And so he wanted to call him and say, look, bro, I know you probably didn't have the day that you wanted,

but I got your back. And there are going to be games that I think I'm going to rush for a buck 50 and two tubs. And you're going to have to have my back. So he wanted to reach out and call him. And he said that he got someone to pass me Russ's number to me. And the guy didn't pass it to him. He told Russ to call

him well I guess Russ called him from a block number and so Beast Mode didn't answer the phone so the guy calls it calls Beast Mode back right he's most like nah Russ ain't called me he said somebody called from a block number he said that was Russ so I guess Russ calls him back and then they have the conversation but basically he was saying how the momentum kind of shifted. Right. From the team and the way they looked at Russ, the way they perceived Russ. Because remember, you and I talked about this. You can fool the media.

You can fool the fans. You can't fool them guys in that locker room. You cannot do it. Right. And Beast Mode, a guy that doesn't have a hate bone in his body, he is real and as authentic as you're going to get. So what was your big takeaway? I don't know how much of the interview that you saw.

Listen, everything you do, I pay attention. I pay attention. I be locked in. I be tuned in just so I can be able to for moments like this. One of the things that I was told, obviously, when you make it to the NFL, you got different people from different walks of life. Yes. You know, when you when you come in in it into that locker room, everybody ain't your friend and everybody's not there to be your friend. And obviously it's a business. but what you do during that business, you make time to meet people, you know, you get time to hang out if,

if you like to, but everybody does different things. Everybody's into different things. And sometimes certain people won't float your boat because you're not like minded and you don't associate it, associate yourself with certain people. Now, Russ, I was never in that locker room. I can only go off the stories that I've heard before, some of the things that people have said. And obviously, I always defend him in saying, you know, Russell Wilson is a good dude. He is a God-fearing man that has purpose and is on his own journey. Now, there might be some things that rub

people the wrong way, the way he carries himself inside the locker room, sort of putting himself, putting himself, I don't want to say above his teammates, but kind of separating himself, especially at the quarterback position, you need to gravitate

towards your teammates. Not, not, not... It's the one position you can't... Ocho, it's the one position you can't be standoffish in the locker room. Right, right, right. If I'm an Italian, yeah,

but as the quarterback, you're the extension of the head coach. You're the extension of the general manager of ownership. You need to be a liaison. I mean, a lot of times, hey, you're talking to the offensive lineman one day, you're smoothing with the D lineman, you're talking to the receivers.

You really have to ingratiate yourself. And people say, well, you can't be, you don't understand the dynamic of a locker room. That's not because HR has no bearing on production. And so it's different than a normal nine to five, because like you said, you got different races, different religions, different orientation, a lot of difference. But the one thing that normally supposed to unite us is the ability to, saying you got different races different religions different orientation a lot of difference but the one thing that normally supposed to unite us is the ability to to want to win right and i told

and i said this and i've said this before and people look at me like i'm crazy i said if the coach coach treat one player outwardly different than he treats the others the other players will grow to resent said player right right and that's what started to happen because Pete started to be bold with it and he was treating Russ different different and Russ started to act different because I didn't want to get too much into it but he brought that same attitude to Denver right yeah a little bit and see and the funny thing, it's funny that you just said that he brought that same attitude to Denver and the way things

were run is because I heard about the separate office space, the separate locker as opposed to away from everybody else. You were upstairs with the coaches. Think about the coaches. Now, I don't know if this is true or not. He was upstairs. His office was upstairs with the coaches. So I don't know if this is true or not. He was upstairs.

His office was upstairs with the coaches. So I don't know if this is true or not. Now, I could get confirmation, but even if I got confirmation, I'm not going to go public with it because it'll make him look worse. I heard Russ had told some players his door is always open. Right. Did you hear what I just said? That's what the head coach, that's what the coaches say.

My door is always open. If you got a problem, you got something you want to say, my door is open. I heard he said, told players, that his door is always open. Yeah. I mean, listen, everybody's different. Everybody's different no but you can't be that i know you are you right you're right i'm not sure who he might have consulted

with as far as being the quarterback when you when you're quarterback of a team you have to be you do have to be open you have to be personable you have to be uh what's the word i'm looking for uh approachable to all to everybody everybody. Relatable. Relatable. You don't have to change who you are, but your Peyton Mannings, your Tom Brady's, Carson Palmer, you know, these are people I surrounded myself with or around. And even if it

wasn't football related, they were still approachable and felt very welcoming. The stories I hear, it feels like Russ, it hasn't been welcoming. He hasn't always had open arms and he, in a sense is somewhat abusing the power that he had because of the high position in hierarchy that he was in that comes with being the quarterback. Hopefully, I think, I think he's changed a little bit, obviously, you know,

cause the tides have turned a little bit in, you know, against, or not in his favor, but as he always says, listen, he's a God-fearing man. He's always done things the right way, you know, and maybe one of the things that he needs has needed to work on or work on in just that in the locker room factor, other than that, everything else that Russell has done in life has been fucking phenomenal. You know, the thing is, Ocho, people love. Your religion is what you do and who you worship, who you go to bed with, who you wake up as.

That don't have anything to do. All they want to know is that you don't think. Peyton Manning is a better player. But you ain't got to throw it in my face that you get certain perks. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. Think about this. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino, none of the historically great quarterbacks.

Patrick Mahomes doesn't have an office upstairs with the coaches. Yeah. Yeah. So how did you think, Ocho, how do you think that's going to fly with the players? Right. Hold on. I want to talk to Ocho.

I got to call Ocho Publishers to set up a call. Ocho, come on. Don't laugh, Ocho. Don't laugh. I got to set up a call with Ocho's Publishers. That's my teammate now. You my teammate. Right.

I ain't talking about somebody. I get it now outside sure you're not just finna pick up the phone and call me right and everybody everybody didn't have my number but if somebody had reached out i'm gonna call them back from my number that's a teammate i don't treat them even though we might not hang out but normally it's what i was playing in the uh uh ocho how club shea shea started it started in a dorm in northern colorado in greenly we might not hang out, but normally it's what I was playing into a, a, a Ocho, how club Shay Shay started. It started in a dorm in Northern Colorado and Greeley, right?

Where John, Bobby, all the guys, the quarterbacks would come. Everybody would come hang out, drink, play video game, play sweet,

you know, play card, roll dice. We just, and everybody would just come in. I'm not saying that you got it, you know, but I'm saying normally when, when, saying normally when guys are putting things together,

just show your face every once in a while. I'm not saying you got to stay the whole night, but it would be best because guys are looking around to see, who can I count on, man? Okay. I see, okay. I see you eat. Okay.

I see your time ruined. I see sometimes guys would just stop by. Hey, what y'all got going on in here? Just to see what's going on. All right, we gone. And I think the locker room dynamic is very different than any other workspace in the world. Yeah. And unless you've been in that, it's hard to explain it.

And it's hard to quantify the importance of a healthy locker room. Right. And the funny thing about it, not only the importance of a healthy locker room, but the importance of your leader, the leader of your team, the one who runs the show, the one who gets the credit for the wins, the ones when you do lose. He also has to bear the burden of the losses to the media. He has to be the one front and center and reachable, accessible, and making everyone else feel a part. So if he is in everything and including everything that we're doing, that makes it, you know what, on Sundays at one o'clock, I'm fighting for him. Why you think those guys run through a wall for Tom Brady?

Run through a wall for Peyton Manning? Run through a wall for John Elway? Man, all we did was gamble with per diem. So anytime we had a little poppy shop machine, we had a little poppy shop machine. Man, one of the first guys to putting their per diem down trying to gamble was Elway. And I'm trying to get it.

We playing cards. You know, we was playing cards at first, but you know how we have sponsors and things on the plane. And Mike said, look, guys, I don't mind you guys rolling dice or playing cards for money, but we got guests on it, and that's not a good look. So just wait till you get to the hotel room. But guess who was down there on one knee rolling dice?

Guess who was down there playing, playing, playing, playing, playing Boo Ray with him. Right. And that went, that went a long way because they were showing us, okay. Yeah. Right. Go ahead. The funny, the funny thing about it is, is Russ has a certain way that he conducts himself. He has a certain way that he does things.

He has a routine, and I'm sure he's had this routine that he's always stuck to throughout his life, throughout his tenure, when it came to playing the game of football. And I'm not sure if he had a great understanding on how important his presence was to not only the players, but the locker room in that dynamic in general. But I think now he gets a better understanding on that. Now on the backend, you know, after hearing the stories and how it's made people feel somewhat, somewhat left out, you know, I hope he, I hope he hears this.

I hope he sees this at some point and, and, and, and changes that, you know, that way in, in, that way in a sense. Especially the locker room. I don't think he needs to change as a person. Just his locker room. Not as a person. Not as a person. Because as a person, he's somebody I look up to

and wish I was a little bit more like. That's because the only thing I can base it on is my experience with Russ. And he's always been great with me. Awesome. But when you're doing the locker room dynamic and you're trying to win because you're trying to get 52 other guys, because Russ is the leader. The position of quarterback in and of itself says I'm a leader.

And it's not always, and it shouldn't always be like that. But the quarterback, more times than not, he's going to have the C on his jersey even if he's not that good. Comes to the territory. That's it. That's it. So hopefully, I hope, I agree with you. I hope, Russ, here's kind of what Beastmo said.

And you see, I mean, think about it. Russ was there for what? A little over, what, 10, 11 years? Yep, I think about 10. The year he for what? A little over 10, 11 years? Yeah, I think about 10. The year he leaves, they give somebody number three. Ocho. Yeah.

Come on, Ocho. I'm not saying it's supposed to be like Peyton Manning, nobody ever, I mean the 18, but you can't wait a year. You can't wait two years. Right. And then you hear guys, the years right right and then you hear guys the moment listen and you hear guys once he left guys started to become more open even Pete Carroll even Tyler Lockett he tweeted it's amazing what you can accomplish when people are not worried about who gets the credit

you hear Pete Carroll starts take guys start taking the shots. Guys that you had never heard say anything. Now all of a sudden you're starting to hear. And like I said, half the stuff that I hear, I never take it to air because I never want to make anybody look bad because I just want to base it on your play on the field. That's all I want. I know a lot of stuff about a lot of things in the locker room and a lot of things being said. But you know what?

That's Adam Schefter's job. That's Jay Glick. Let them be inside of it. Let them break that. I'm going to talk about your play. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But see, here's the thing. You get in this business long enough, you build

up a certain level of credibility and a certain level of cash shape. And people feel they can talk to you just like they come on my platform. People feel very, very comfortable that they can talk to me. And so it was a great conversation. People really

thoroughly enjoyed it. You can tell by... I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. By the other sites that picked up clips of it. So I really appreciate y'all sharing that. Travis Kelsey asked the NFL to calm down with some of the Taylor Swift coverage. So Travis said they're overdoing it a little bit for sure, especially in my situation.

I think they're trying to have fun with it. Man, he like this. Check this out. The New York Post reports the NFL admits they were the ones who pushed NBC and ESPN to run ads for the Error's Tour for free. Now, when have you ever known the NFL to do anything for free?

NFL don't do nothing for free because at the end of the day, the bottom line is always about a dollar. There ain't nothing free but salvation. And Creflo Dollar and Joel Osteen charged for that. So ain't nothing free. And the NFL definitely don't charge, let you run no free ads. They don't give you no free ticket.

No, sir. There's an angle. There's a different angle that we don't know about. Do you know what the angle might be? Yeah, getting Taylor Swift to do the halftime show. There's an angle. There's a different angle that we don't know about. Do you know what the angle might be? Yeah, getting Taylor Swift to do the halftime show. Talk to me now. It's chess, not checkers. It's just chess, not checkers.

And I know how to play, and they know how to play at the end of the day. Did you see the teen viewership, teen girls that watched the game that you appeared at up 53%? Chess, not checkers. The NFL know what they're doing. They smart. They smart. I'm surprised.

And when we talked about it, and I told you about it being, even if it is somewhat real, when I talked about it being a PR and I ain't talking about Puerto Rico, understand the angle. Understand the angle in the dynamic of the connection and the Wi-Fi that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift even being together. Yes. But it has. And what it does for not only Travis Kelsey, but for the NFL as well.

So why not take advantage of the situation? Because at the end of the day, it all comes down to one thing. Oh, Taylor Swift? Okay, I understand if I do this, if I maneuver this way well if I if I move the chess piece this way if I take the queen over here I know I can get this right you got to play the game you got to you got to play the game because at the end of the day Taylor Swift gives the NFL a different set of eyeballs everybody Taylor Taylor Swift all the Taylor half of Taylor Swift fans probably not NFL fans NFL is trying to get more fans trying to get more eyeballs Taylor Swift, all of Taylor, half of Taylor Swift fans, probably not NFL fans. NFL's trying to get more fans, trying to get more eyeballs.

Taylor Swift can do that. Did it work? It worked. What percentage were the viewership up again? What percentage was it? Teen, I think teen girls was up 53%. 53% that would have never tuned in. Man, chess, not checklist.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, of course. I mean, I know because here's the thing. And this is how we are. We love something until we get too much of it. And then we start because I see, oh, man, Taylor Swift, they need to stop short on Taylor Swift and stop it. Y'all know who that is.

That's Taylor Swift. He playing. He playing. He just playing. He got to come out and say that. On the inside, I know he feeling good. I know he feeling good. Jersey sales and shut up. Listen, you got all them extra Instagram followers. You got your podcast,

New Heights. Man, listen, you got your commercials. Man, child, please. Everybody's benefiting from this because all the NFL fans probably aren't Taylor Swift. They're like, oh, that's Taylor Swift? Because now you got two behemoths together. You got the NFL. You got Taylor Swift fans.

You got Taylor Swift. You got Travis Kelsey. One of the biggest stars in the NFL. Probably her and Beyonce, one, two, however you want to rank them. As far as pop sensation traveling the world, bro. Yeah. And the funny thing about it. Not to take advantage of this. And the funny thing about it, this is the NFL.

Obviously, the visibility is only so far. And then you have to now you get Taylor Swift on your hip. Do you understand what that does for your brand globally? Yes. People that don't even watch the game of football. That takes Travis Kelsey, not only to a different demographic, not only to a different age group and age bracket, but it puts eyes on not just the Chiefs, but you as well and everything you have going on. Travis Kelsey, I know you're going to see this. I know you're going to see it. You got to play the game.

You got to play the game the same way you do it on the field, whether it's man or whether it's zone. You got to play the game and navigate through it the right way because you got to think long term, baby. Stay with me. Take advantage of this opportunity. Take advantage of this opportunity. Yes, sir. She's not local. She's a national.

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Evan Neal, the right tackle for the New York Giants, york giants apologize for booing fans he said the person that's commenting on my performance what does he do flip hot dogs and burgers somewhere why would a lion concern himself with the opinion of sheep first of all bro i don't know if you watch yourself on film you ain't no lion you block it like a sheep and you keep you keep playing like that now you won't be flipping burgers but you'll be owning franchises of a burger of people that flip burgers

I don't know what I don't know what he was thinking right you see what I mean on how players it affects him even if it's think about this Evan Neal is not playing well. Evan Neal has had an entire offseason preparing himself to get ready for football season and do the best that he can

at his job. Evan Neal also has been through a training camp. Evan Neal also has been through a offseason program of 13 weeks to prepare himself for the season. So the funny thing about being frustrated, not only are they losing, but he's not playing well. And then he has to hear from the fans that he's not playing well after putting in all the work that he's put in. And it's very upsetting. At times, there are certain people. There are two kinds of people in life. There are two kinds of people in life. There are people that can take criticism and use it as motivation. And there are people that when they get criticized, they fire back based off

emotion. And that is what you saw from him. He's frustrated. Things aren't going well, not only for the team, but for him as well. And what's the first thing that he does is he lashes out without thinking. Get your foot off social media. Play better. He didn't play. Hold on. He didn't play well last year.

He's not playing this year. So it's the fans' fault that he's not playing. It's the last year. He's not playing this year. So it's the fans' fault that he's not playing. It's the fans' fault he's not playing well. Play better. Let me ask you a question. How many times when you played well, you got booed? Huh? How many times you played well and the fan booed you?

Oh, I never got booed. Whether I was playing home or away, they loved me everywhere. But, and when, and even when I didn't play in the social media era, but if you playing well, fans don't, they might jump on your time and say, hey guys, y'all, hey, 84, you playing well, but y'all need to win some games. Right, right, right, right, right. So what does he expect the fans to do? I mean, not criticize you when you playing bad? Listen, that's the nature of the beast.

That's the nature of the beast. And I think Evan Neal from this point on, and this could, you know what, this can affect people. You know that? Players. Everybody is built differently, especially mentally. Mentally, this could tank you, you know? When you get to the point where you allow fans to affect you and your performance based off what they're saying.

Oh, that could be that could be deafening and heartening. I'm just saying. That's a tight argument, though. I mean, it's a tight argument. It's a tight argument. What have they got you, bro? That man that's flipping burgers and hot dogs, paying his hard-earned damn money to come see your sorry butt quip blocks time after time after time, block your own guy over and over again, let Daniel Graham get sacked time and time again. That guy is paying his hard-earned damn money. Yeah, Daniel Jones, excuse me.

That guy that's flipping those burgers, that's telling those hot dogs, he's spending his hard-earned damn money to come watch your sorry butt play. Right. You don't feel no thing? You don't feel nothing? You don't like, man, you know what, bro? You know I'm right.

Y'all right. Y'all have every right to boo because I'm not playing well. No. You lash out to try to like, oh, show him up. Oh, you flipping burgers. Okay.

It don't take anything to get that first big contract because you get drafted, you can fool people. Get another big contract. That's what the dogs, that's what the lions do. Right. Bro, you're not no lion. You're not. I don't know who told you that.

And that seems like a good, everybody want to be a lion now. And they're not cheetahs. They not leopard they're not jaguar they just graduate to the king of the beast right bro tritt williams can say i'm a lion zach martin can say i'm a lion jason kelsey can say he's a lion can say i'm a lion bro why we on why we on the uh why we on the context and the topic of animals that are based on what we are when we're on the field? You know what I was? Can I tell you what I was? What?

I was a killer whale. Oh, my man. Yeah. I was a killer whale. But anyway, listen. Again, I know fans are upset. I know fans are upset, obviously. They should be.

Yeah, they are. Ocho, the dude is 6'7 1⁄2", 330 pounds, and can't block the sun out of his eyes. So you're damn right I'm going to be upset. Why are you being mean? Why are you being mean? Did I lie? I don't know.

I don't know because I haven't watched him. I normally watch the skill position, the quarterbacks and the running backs. Evan Neal has allowed the sixth most quarterback hits and the second most pressures. How can I interest you in that? You said number six, the sixth most? He's allowed the sixth most quarterback hits and the second most pressures.

So that means there are five people in front of him that are even worse than, right? And I'm sure their fans are booing their ass too. I'm talking about him. And once I find out who they are, if their fans boo them and they lash out at them, we'll get their ass on here. But right now, we're going to... See, you know what?

You know what the funny thing is? The other five, their team might be winning, but everything's magnified now because the Giants aren't winning. Obviously, say... No, they're not. They're not winning. Okay. How do't winning. No, they're not winning. Okay. How do you know?

No, they're not winning. Because see, the argument that you're trying to use is like if the police pull you over, why you stop me all these people that's speeding? He said, you know what? I caught you. Had I not pulled you over for speeding, I might have been able to catch one of them. Yeah.

See, hey, if somebody would have lashed out at their fan base, playing as pathetic as he is, maybe this would have been an opportunity to get them. But since he beat everybody to the punch, we got you. Right. Listen, I understand the fans' frustration. I understand the fans' frustration. For me as a player, it's hard for me to put myself in that situation.

I mean, as a player, because hard for me to put myself in that situation i mean as as a player because i never had that actually happen to me i do kind of somewhat empathize with him because of all the bullshit he's having to deal with from the fans through the media and it's frustrating for him because he's not playing well wait let me let me finish you know he's not playing well and everybody's piling on top of him and probably he got to a boiling point to he lashed out at the fans. But again, I'm also on the fan side because I was you paying your hard earned money. And then to hear a comment like that, God damn it, motherfucker, we the one paying our hard earned money in this economy to come watch you play.

And you talking, you know, so I, I, I understand both sides. I'm hoping this does wonders for him. And he come back and answers with his play on the field and gives the product that the fans want to see. Oh, Joe, you can't play like what the elephant left on the showground. And then expect me to applaud you. You let me tell you the guy, you know, who got the number one guy, the guys that from front of him, that was a good one. Orlando Brown. He played

for your bingos. He's giving up the most quarterback pressure. Yo guy, oh yeah, now look at you. And now you wonder why Joe Burrow is like he is. Yes. Yes. Orlando Brown.

That y'all paid big money to get him. He playing worth it. Orlando Brown that y'all paid big money to get him he playing worth it he playing worth it Evan Neal and that's saying something because he playing like stir fry so I don't know what your guy is

yeah I'm not going to touch that your guy Moo Moo got paying or something nah guess what we going to touch that one. Your guy Moo Moo got pain or something. Nah. That's what your guy is. Guess what? We're going to be all right. We got the Cardinals this week, and we're going to win.

A Cardinals? Joshua Dobbs. Joshua Dobbs. Let me say something. Joshua Dobbs is going to take a test right before he plays the Bengals. Ace the test and do a number on you guys. How do you like that? You know what cures everything? You know what can cure everything and make everybody happy?

It can make the fans happy. It can make the players happy. It can make the coaches happy. You know what cures everything you know what can cure everything and make everybody happy make the fans happy make the players happy, make the coaches happy you know what cures everything winning winning we on the Giants we on the Giants right now, winning we on the Giants, we not on the Bengals

we not talking about Orlando Brown I'm talking about the Giants winning that would cure everything see what you doing, you trumpeting We not talking about Orlando Brown. I ain't talking about the big ones. I'm talking about the Giants. Okay, well, that winning. You tried to get the... That would cure everything. See, what you doing, you trumpeting. You caping up for somebody else

and got the heat on your own guy. Now Orlando Brown say, he caught a straight. He's talking... Hold on. What you did is you shot Orlando Brown. You shot Orlando Brown in front of Evan Neal because I was throwing the bullets at him. Wait a minute.

I ain't came for nobody. I said, I understand both sides. What you talking about? I said, I understand both sides. So if he's number two, that means somebody's worse than him.

So I had to get you to get. No, I said, there are people that are playing worse. So I, I, I, I kind of understand where you coming from.

But again, one thing cures all. Winning. That's it. That's all you can do. That's the only way to fix it. Play better. Because you play better.

Yeah, that too. What about that? So what role does playing better? What does that cure? Oh, it's going to come in. That's why you go out. It protects the quarterback's ribs. It protects the quarterback getting hit in his head. Hey, listen, that's why you go out there. They protect the quarterback's ribs. They protect the quarterback getting hit in his head.

Hey, listen, that's why you go out there every week. You practice Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. You have walk-through on Saturdays, and you try to go out there and execute everything you worked on throughout the week. And you hope it pans out the way it does. Are we sure he's practicing every day? Yeah, he is.

Are we sure he's practicing? Or he's just going out there game time? Because it don't look like that. You practice. Listen, the person on the other side of the ball, them defense ends, yeah, they get paid too. Hold on. They get paid too.

I ain't trying to hear that. I ain't trying to hear that. Not every player, Ocho. Look, the DB going to win some. Okay, granted. But damn, every player. Look, Ocho, think about this. I played tight end at 228 pounds.

I had to block a Reggie White, a Bruce smith a neil smith a derrick thomas i mean you're not finna beat me every damn play that's not gonna happen right even at 228 i'm a big receiver but at some point in time pride gotta kick in that man i don't i know who you are i know what you represent i know you're gonna be on the what you represent. I know you're going to be on the 75th anniversary team. I know you're on the 100th anniversary team, but you're not going to beat me every play. I got to win some. Yeah, you're right.

Mentally, you're built different. Mentally, you're built different. Obviously, this day and age, I don't want to say kids because they're not kids, but they're wired differently. I think he's going to be okay. I think he's going to be okay. I didn't say, I didn't listen. I'm not saying he's not, he's not playing well right now,

but I'm hoping the ties turn for the better for him and that team in general. So the fans can have something to cheer about for a change. I know you saw this Brock Purdy said he still lives and splits the rent with a roommate in San Francisco and drives a Toyota Sequoia. Ocho, I think Brock Purdy's doing an unbelievable job.

But unless I'm in college, I ain't living with no grown-ass man. Two grown-ass men should not be sharing no part, splitting no rent. I'm going to get a five, I get three, I get 350 square feet and live by myself before I split a thousand square feet with another big old rusty dude. Do you know what the cost of living is in San

Francisco? I don't care if it's high to drive here. I ain't staying. I'm coming to this. Did he say he never said his roommate was a guy, did he? Ah, stay with me. Stay with me. He never said his roommate was a guy, did he? Ah, stay with me. Ah, stay with me.

Stop it. He never said his roommate spitting the rent. He did. He did. No, he didn't. It's a woman. I guarantee it's a woman. Let me tell you something.

It is not. He got a girlfriend. He probably got a girlfriend. And he split rent with her. It is not. You don't think so? No. I don't know.

Hey. Listen, when I come home, the only dirty drawers piled up in the corner going to be mine. Ain't no other joke of dirty drawers and foxy shoes going to be in the doorway when I get there. You might want to look at the data on the highest places to live as far as expenses are concerned, as far as trying to earn and make a living. I don't care.

San Francisco is expensive. It might be number one on the list of places to live. Ocho, I don't care. I live in 500 square feet in hell. I ain't sharing my place with no man. That's me. Sometimes you have to. Sometimes you got to do that when you got the money.

Ocho. Sometimes you have to when you got the money. Ocho, check this out. Ocho, check this out. Real talk. I wish I had the numbers on it. How much is rent in San Francisco? Show me the numbers.

I guarantee you there are people that's making less than $870,000 that have an apartment by themselves. I made $63,000 my rookie year. $63,000. $63,000. Wait, where were you playing at? I was in Denver. You was in Denver making $63,000 a year

like 30-something years ago. We in 2023 living in the worst times of all. Let's just say rent is crazy. Let's just, okay. Rent is crazy. Mortgages are crazy. What's the average rent in San Francisco? $4,000 a month.

$4,000 a month. Average rent in San Francisco is $4,000. It might be more than that. He got a two bedroom. I'm going to say $4,000. I'm going to say $4,000. No more than $4,500. Average rent cost.

No, no. Not in San Francisco. It's a different ballgame. Please, somebody do your homework for me real quick. We doing it. And give me the information. Two bedrooms, San Francisco. No, they ain't saying no two bedrooms.

He by himself. You just said he got a roommate. Yes. And they're sleeping in the same bed, man. The average rent in San Francisco is $3,000 a month. So you know what? That's a lie. That, no. That, no.

No. No. Hold on. Ocho, let's just say we go get a nice one bedroom for $4,500. You know what, Ocho? I'm going to say, you know what? I'm going to get a wash and dry in my apartment. So I'm going to bump it up to $5,000.

You mean to tell me a man is making $870,000, can't afford a $5,000-a-month apartment by himself? Obviously not. Obviously not because that's why he's doing it. As a matter of fact. That's a good story. Oh, do you see Brock Purdy? Oh, he's dead.

He rents an apartment. He's all about the game. Stop it. Miss me with that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ain't nothing wrong. What did I say my first two years in the NFL? Let's not forget. Oh't nothing wrong. What did I say? My first two years in NFL. Let's not forget.

Oh, you forgot because I wanted to save money because buying a place or renting a place was pointless and unnecessary. When all the amenities I needed was in the stadium. Average rent for one bedroom in San Francisco is 3000. It's the third most expensive city in the U.S. behind Jersey City and New York City. So I just say the average price is $3,000 for one bedroom. I bumped it up another $2,000 just because I want him to stay in the nicest place in San Francisco.

Whatever you just read is not up-to-date information on how much it costs to stay in San Francisco. And there's no way in hell that New York is in front of San Francisco. And what was it? What was the first? Who was first? Jersey City.

Jersey City? Who the hell live in Jersey City? What are we talking about? Okay, this was published April 30 of 2023. So maybe the price have gone up another $10,000 since then. So you want to try another angle? No, but I just understand.

I understand where he's coming from because it's something I did as well. He is not into spending money. And in order to save money, even though you make an 870,000, how can I do it? Easy. Split the rent with somebody else. Boom. And going about my, let me ask you a question. If he's trying to save money, why the hell did he get a Toyota Sequoia that gets 13 miles in the city and seven in the highway when gas is $7 a gallon out here? Explain that.

He's driving his old Toyota Sequoia from college. It's not a new Toyota. What are you saying? The fact of the matter is that it's $13. Hold on. Do you understand how much gas prices are here in LA? The gas price in LA is $7 a gallon. Oh, so now you have an understanding of the gas prices,

but when it comes to rent, what's the difference? Oh, I'm going to save on rent, but I'm going to splurge on gas. What's more important, a place to lay your head or getting from point A to point B? You got to go to work. You know what? You can sleep in that truck and go right on to work. If you want to save money, do that. Sleep in the truck

and go to work. Listen, I commend Brock Purdy. I commend Brock Purdy. All of us don't want to just waste money, you know, and just just... Ocho, I ain't say go get no palatial estate. I ain't say go get a Steph and Aisha Curry place, a $30 million pad. I ain't say get get a Steph and Ayesha Curry place, a $30 million pad. I ain't

say get a penthouse that cost me $15,000, $20,000. He'll be able to. You know what's going to happen? When he gets that money, when he hits that $200, $250 million contract, he's still going to be stuck in the same ways, and that money will probably last his grandkids and his grandkids grandkids and his grandkids grandkids

after that. So I think it's a good thing. It's commendable to me. Very commendable. Listen, I'm not saying he got to pay for a lot of young women college tuition. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I ain't saying you got to do that. But I'm saying, bro, you can get you a $3,000, make it $870.

You can get you a $3,000, $4,000. I went $5,000. And it's for a year. Right can get you a $3,000, $4,000. I went $5,000. And it's for a year. But you have to understand, that's your way of thinking. That's your way of thinking. Don't be cheap to yourself. Nah. Don't be cheap to yourself.

Be as cheap as you want to, but don't be cheap to yourself. Brock, I know you're going to see this. Boy, I love you, baby. I love you and everything you're doing, man. Hey, me and you, we got to write a book together on financial literacy. I think we can get this done. Holler at me when you see me. My number's still the same. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Way to go, bro. I just want to know who promised you tomorrow. Huh? Who promised you tomorrow? Nobody promised me tomorrow, but I know one thing. When I was born, I had an expiration date. Yeah. But God said, Do you know the date?

Do you know the date? I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you right now. Let me finish now. When I was born, we all come with an expiration date. Yeah. But God told me he's not through with me yet.

So I know I still got some time left. Because I'm not finished. Because he's not through with me yet. I'm not even going to preach today because it's not Sunday. But you know where I'm going with this. Yeah. Yeah. Stay with me now. I'm not even going to preach today because it's not Sunday, but you know where I'm going with this. Yeah. Yeah. Stay with me now.

He told you you got time left. He told you that yesterday. It might be today. Huh? Listen, he's not done with me. I mean, you heard exactly what I said. He's not done. He's not through with me yet.

Speaking of being frugal, Derrick Henry says he's going to hold off on jersey swaps because of the cost. Now players are required to pay for the jerseys when doing swaps. And the costs have increased recently. Titan players have to pay upwards of $350 per jersey. So you can understand how expensive that can get if you do it 17 times. You see? You see how everyone is being

financially conscious now? You see? They worried about paying a $350 jersey a $350 jersey 17 times. You see what I'm saying? Hold on. Think about this here. I love my ballplayers for this, man.

I love y'all for this. But no, I ain't got no problem with the ballplayers. The problem that I have with the NFL. Now, you're going to give Taylor Swift free airtime. Right. $400, $500,000 for a 30-second spot. And you say NBC, CBS, Fox, ESPN, can y'all do that for free? But you're going to charge the players who you're building the backbone off of,

you're going to charge them $350,000. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, let's rewind. I understand where you're going with this. off of, you're going to charge them $350. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, let's rewind. I understand where you're going with this. I understand where you're going. Obviously, we are the ones, the backbone of the NFL. We are the meat and potatoes of the NFL. But we have to understand something.

At the end of the day, it's about the bottom line. And there's one... What's the bottom line? Let me finish. The Taylor Swift versus the NFL players. Which one moves the needle the most and can do so in a short amount of time? And nobody else that's putting on a helmet can. Just answer the question.

Answer the question. Which one could move the needle the most? Optics matter. There you go. Ocho. There you go. Optics matter. Hold on.

Remember the optics I just told you about Russell Wilson? How Pete Carroll? Optics to the other players. Yeah. So who's I just told you about Russell Wilson? How Pete Carroll optics to the other player. Yeah. So who's more important? Who's more important? A quarterback or a wide receiver or DB? Who's more important? Well, the quarterback, obviously. Optics. Optics

matter. I understand. So now the players are looking. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, Ocho. So hold on. Ocho, just give me a second. I'm talking about the 1,500 players. Which one of those 1,500 players? Okay, I'm going to pull the top 10 players together. If I pull

the top 10 players together, you think they got more money than Taylor Swift? Absolutely not. Okay. So the players are saying, hold on. You're going to head crack me for $350, and you're going to give somebody that's worth half a bill, you're going to give her a discount. As a matter of fact, you're going to give her a discount.

You're going to let her have it for free. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying that. I'm just saying the player. Hey, chess, not checkers. Hold on. Tyreek Hill.

Bottom line at the end of the day. Tyreek Hill just got charged $3,500 for no socks. How many times you got fined for no socks. How many times you got fine for no socks? How many times you got untucked jersey? Listen, untucked jersey, streamer towel, gold cleats, remember I used to wear the orange chin strap, the black chin strap? I didn't care.

I didn't care. Take the money. I don't care. And I never stop. Hold on. Hold on. Ocho. Ocho. Either you a cyclop or octopus or something, because you speaking on both sides of your neck. One minute, you're being proved. Hold on.

No, no, no. I tell you, hold on. Give me a second. Now, they find you every time untucked jersey. They find you when you run the chin strap. They find you for all this, and you're saying, take the money. Why are you doing that? Yeah, because I'm playing. I thought you frugal.

No, I am frugal. Listen to me. Stay with me. Now stay with me. Let me talk to you real quick. When I'm playing the game of football, I'm from Miami. I'm from Liberty City. It's a beautiful place called Dade County. When we play the game of football, it's about having fun. It's about entertaining. It's about going out and looking good and doing it your way and showing up.

So when it comes to that, the NFL is going to do what they think they can do best to keep us under control. So what's the first thing they do? They take what they think we value most. Stay with me now. They were fining me for enjoying the game of football the way I like to and dress the way I felt I should to be able to do my job at my best because I felt good and looked good doing it. That's the only reason. There's a difference. No, it's not. Listen to me. When it comes to other things like renting, buying houses,

and buying cars, and buying jewelry, all that stuff, all that shit ain't matter. But when it came to football, I want to enjoy the game, playing it the same way I did as a little kid. That's all. That's all. And you're not going to control me. You're not going to control me by taking money.

Ocho, that doesn't make any sense. It makes sense to me. You don't get to say, you know what, I don't want to spend money on an apartment, so I'm going to live in the facility, but I'm going to give the NFL $7,000, $10,000 of my dollars every week. That's $160 over 16 games. You tell me the sense that make.

So the money that you saved by staying in the facility, you gave to the NFL times 2X. And I got it back times 5X in the offseason. So I wasn't tripping. Ocho, you can't get back money. You was going to make that money up by doing the offseason program anyway. You lost $160. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about the offseason program. I made it up make that money up by doing the off-season program anyway. You lost 160. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not talking about off-season program. I made it up in the off-season. I work year-round. I didn't play football. I work year-round. So how you make that up? You going to get those endorsements anyway. You lost 160.

You can't get back what's lost. No, no. You're not understanding all the stuff I had going on outside of the game, outside of football. And you still would have had that going on with an extra 160 in your pocket. So make it make sense. Listen, stay with me, baby. You're not listening to me.

It made sense to me because I played the game a certain way, right, when I was a little shorty, when I was legit. So when I got to the NFL and you're paying me millions of dollars, when you get to the NFL, it's all about control, trying to conduct and control the players to their satisfaction. But I wanted to play it my way and dress the way I did when I was at Miami Beach Senior High and when I played for Liberty City Optimist. And that is what I chose to continue to do. The NFL don't want y'all coming out there looking like an all-tournament team

because the next thing somebody was going to do like an all-tournament team because the next thing somebody was going to do was an all-tournament team. One of you got on Adidas. One of you got on Puma. One of you got on Reeboks. One of you got a beach tower hanging on your back. And so the NFL said, no, we want some uniformity. We want a uniform

code. And guess what you could have done? You could have bought 500 smoke detector batteries. Yeah, I did. I did. You notice you don't hear no chirping no more, though. I'm about to have. I'm glad.

Yeah, yeah. I'm glad. Listen, but I stole the battery out the smoke detector in my hotel and brought it home. You know they watch this. No, they ain't see that. No, they watching this. You told them.

I just told them. I know, but it was all the way in Philly, they ain't see that. No, they watching this. You told them. I just told them. I know, but it was all the way in Philly. They ain't going to know. You going back? You stay at that same hotel when you go back to Philly? I know, but they ain't going to know because it's going to be chirping. You just told them. I know, but they just going to change the battery.

They ain't going to know. I just incriminated myself, huh? You sure did. Damn. I mean, you sure did. They did know, but they do now. That's why I never do nothing wrong. My bad.

That's a good thing. You don't do anything wrong. You shouldn't have. So, I mean, since you told us you took the hotel battery, you want to tell us the hotel? Huh? You want to tell us the hotel? Hell, you already told us you took the battery.

So whatever hotel he's staying in on Monday night, he got the battery. Yeah, the Western. It's cool. I know they didn't replace it by now. They probably charged, they probably charged, they probably charged my card though.

Like incidentals. You think that go with incidentals? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, we're going to put that in there. At Western, Chad Ochocinco Johnson stole y'all battery

after y'all smoked along. You know what else I took? I don't mean to be telling you my business and my personal, my personal stuff, but we family, we family. But you know what else I took? I don't mean to be telling you my business and my personal stuff, but we family. But, you know, when I go to hotels, right, you know, when I pack, I always travel real light. So I have extra room in my suitcase.

I always steal two washcloths. That's a shame. I mean, that's what you did in college. I mean, that bad ass. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen. I got to marry y'all bread spread right now. My bed at home in Glenville.

See, that's, see, we here. You can do all kinds of things with that bed. You can smoke, you can smoke. You can try to start a fire on that thing. That thing ain't going to burn nothing. I don't know what they made that thing out of. That thing is fire retardant. Man, look here.

I go into a burning, burning building. I don't need no fire. I just wrap myself up with one more Mary, I'll look here. I go into a burning building. I don't need no fire. I just wrap myself up, wasn't going to marry, I'll break it. I'll be fresh, fresh. Comfort us. And come right up out of there.

It's like, hey, that's what I would do. Hey, listen, man. Ain't nothing worse than this. And I know people are going to laugh at me. They're going to talk about, man, what you doing? You know how many people

done wiped their cell phone? Like, man, listen. When you buy new towels and you try to dry off and all the lint from the towel still stuck on you, man. But that's why you wash them first. I can tell. You don't know nothing about it. Listen, you know how many times you have to wash a brand new washcloth

and towel before it's all rickety and rough and perfect? How many washcloths and towels do you got? You should be able to wash. I mean, you should have at least, at the bare minimum, three sets. Listen, I have way more than three sets because you have to think how much I travel. So every time I travel to a different hotel,

I always steal two sets. Man, they white. I mean, I bet them towels look like you've been changing the whole. Listen, you know, that is the most humbling experience. You know that? We family. I can talk to y'all, right?

One of the things that has always been the most humbling to me is to get out the shower, been in there 20 minutes bathing, making sure you hit all the important spots, and you get off and dry off with your towel, and that bitch still come out black sometimes. Like, why is that? I don't know. You got a mirror close by? Nah, I ain't got no mirror close by, but I know you ain't finna sit here and say that you drive with

no white towel. No, I don't. Not at home, man. No. What you use at home? What color your towel? I got blue, I got brown, I got green, I got black. Hey, do me a favor. You get a white towel just so it can humble you real quick. No. That shit so humbling, man. When I'm home, I got black. Hey, do me a favor. You get a white towel just so it can humble you real quick. No. That shit's so humbling, man.

When I'm home, I want the experience of home. That's why I don't have anything that's like hotel related in my home. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. I like me going with that one. I like me going with that one. I don't know how it don't take you that long. You taking a bird bath

anyway. Who? You. What do you mean?'t know how it don't take you that long. You taking a bird bath anyway. Who? You. Well, what do you mean? You know how birds get in the little bird bath they see out in the front of the yard? The bird like... You up out of there. Matter of fact, I'm so glad that you're speaking of showering, right? I'm not

even home, right? Let me tell you another thing I used to do, you know, throughout my tenure when I was single, like to save money at home. Like, fellas, if you watch this, stay with me now. Always take a shower at your girl's house. Always take a shower at your girl's house. Use her electricity. You know, just do everything there to keep your bills down at home. And that's something that I used to do. I used to finagle a lot of situations like that. Like right now, she's sleeping right now. She can't hear me. Like I'd be here in Tampa, right? At my old lady house, right? What's today, the 5th? Today, the 6th. Guess how much my water bill was. Guess how much my water bill was. $40.

$40. I don't like that, too. Hey, she don't even know. I've been like, ooh, boom. But it's cool, though. And she paid the bills. That's all right. She can get it back at you. When you don't sign that prenup, when you sign that prenup, she get it back. No, sir.

Hey, I got another one. I know we done veered off into life now. I got a birthday coming up. You know, if I was her, you know what I'd get you? No, no, no. It's her birthday. It's her birthday. And I need help.

I need help. You need ideas? Yeah. I ain't going to lie to you because what do I buy somebody that has everything in last year? That's what women ask me. Shannon, you got everything. What do you buy somebody that has everything? I say more of everything. Whatever I got, give me more of it.

Give me an idea. Because whatever you say, that's what I'm going to get. Her birthday is October 16th. So whatever you say get, I'm getting. I asked her 32 times. I asked her 32 times. asked her 30 times what you want for your birthday and why is it with women they never ever ever oh ever understand oh i don't know just give me some nice yeah yes i don't want to surprise you got that kind of time at all and i don't

want to call your 15 girlfriend hey well what hey what what shireen? Oh, you know what? She had an eye on this. Yeah, but I closed my eyes because I saw that price. I closed my eyes when I saw that price. So that ain't it. So, I mean, when you were dating, how did you navigate in figuring out what to get your partner? I'm terrible. I'm terrible. We in the same boat.

We in the same boat. We in the same boat. You know what? I called my grandmother. I said, I called my grandmother one year. I started making some real good money. I said, granny,

what you want for Christmas? You know what my granny told me? What? Money. She say it's the right size and it's the right color. So I just started getting people money. So 5,000,

10,000, whatever you need, 15,000, whatever you need, $15,000 whatever you need for your birthday, go ahead if you can't get it with $10,000 or $15,000 I don't know what to tell you wait that's not disrespectful though? man, look here

you know what I like, this is what I do Ocho go get what you want because if I get something and then I look yeah, I like it that's going to get what you want. Because if I get something and then I look, yeah, I like it. That's going to make me not want to get you anything or give you anything. That's why I'm asking for your help. Because if I go get something based on

my taste and I have an understanding of what she like, but she already got everything. So if I bring something in here and then I get what? A Hermes. Nah, she got two of those already, though. Get another one. Get her that croc one.

Oh, nigga. That croc one? Get her that one. Wait, how much is the croc one? How much is the croc one? They're going to start out by 50 bands. What kind of band? FAMU?

No, no. That's the March of 100. what kind of band fam you no no that's the marching 100 that's half of the marching 100 wait 50 like 50,000 yeah

but you gonna be in there you gonna be in there like swimwear for a purse for a purse and it ain't got nothing in it it don't come with 49,000 in it either

you dead ass or you just bullshitting though? Like deadass, serious? I wouldn't lie to you. $50,000 for a purse? What are you looking at? Tell him at the used one. How much is the used one?

Now, let me tell you. Now, if you mess around and want to get the Himalayan, there's a bag that's Hermes Himalayan. Now, they're going to probably start... Like Himalaya, like the same one that... Yeah, yeah, yeah. From Martin? And you need to have money

stacked that high to be in order to be able to get it. Because they're about $300,000 to $500,000, $500,000, $500,000. Man, come on, man. Go ahead now. Go ahead now. Go ahead now. So, I mean, sir.

That's a Rolls Royce now. Come on now. But here's the thing, Ocho. If you just can't go in Hermes and get a bag, you got to get on a list or you got to know somebody that's on the list to be able to get it for you. So you just can't walk into Hermes store.

Like you can walk into Rolls Royce and you're like, I want that Rolls Royce and get it. Right. Right. You can't do that with Hermes. They'll give a damn who you are. Wait, you got to get on a list. So is that their way? Is that their way to keep everything exclusive?

Yes. Well, I have a question for you. Can I, I have a question. So if, if they have a list and you have to get on a list to keep everything inclusive, how come all the IG people on all the people on IG got Hermes bags? They probably, probably bought them second hand. Man, look here. I don't believe nothing on IG. Cause if I, if I just went by IG, I'm trying to buy higher behind the unemployment, the rate is what it is.

Inflation what it is, inflation what it is, because everybody living a glorious life. Everybody got flawless skin. Everybody got a Bentley truck or a Maybach. So, IG is full of caca. I don't know, man, but I'm just

really stuck. And I normally, you know, I play around. I know I play around a lot, but... What about a watch? What about a Patek or an AP or a Rollie? really stuck. And I'm, I normally, you know, I play around. I know I play around a lot, but what about, what about, what about, what about a Patek or an AP or a Rolly? AP. She got, she got a Rolly already.

AP. That's a good one. Get an AP or Patek. All right. What was, what's the price point? Like, don't come on that.

Don't, don't, don't hit me across the head now. They, I mean, I mean, you talking about exclusive or exclusive, but there are those other watches that you got to be on the list to get.

What is with this list shit? Because here's the thing. And what happened was, remember during the pandemic, everything shut down. So production of all those watches shut down. So now it backlogged everything. So now everybody, a watch that costs you $70,000, people trying to get $210,000 for it. A watch that costs $70,000 or $210,000 now?

Trying to get $210,000, $230,000, $300,000. Do me a small favor real quick. What time you got? What time is it right now? Almost 20 minutes to 10. That ain't cost me $70,000. That was it right now almost 20 minutes to 10 that ain't cost me 70,000 that was free right now that ain't cost 210,000

that was free right now I'm just telling you Ocho one of the few times I spend money is the holidays and birthdays and on my girl that's the only time and she knows that you're so she's expecting something really really high end my girl. That's the only time. I'm back. And she knows that you're puke. So she's expecting something really, really high end, Ocho.

Because that's the way I move. Last year, I went crazy. What'd you get her? Who was that? The goddamn, the Maldives. The Maldives. How you say it? Maldives.

We stayed at the Maldives at the Underwater Hotel. $50,000 a night. Underwater. Oh, shit. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. hotel, $50,000 a night. Under what? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I went crazy last year, so now I'm like, well, how do I compete with what I did last year? Man, I would have gotten back and said, hey, that's fraudulent.

I would have gotten back that credit card. That's fraudulent. I don't know who. Somebody forged my name and everything. They even cut their hair and they look like me on camera. Yeah, it was... $50,000 a night? We only stayed in there three nights. The underwater. And then we went to the

cabana. The only place I'm playing $50,000 a night is heaven. That's all I got. I got $200. But if he say $125... You'll like it, though. You'll like it. It was a great experience.

It's something that I had never experienced before. And being submerged under the water, everything was under the water. The hotel. I mean, not the hotel. The room itself. Ojo, I'm about to go upstairs. That was nice. And they're going to call me $50,000 a night.

I know, but it was the birthday, though. I know. See? It was the birthday though. But here's the thing. Okay, so now what do you do? What do you do to top that? I'm stuck.

That's why I came to you because you have more experience than I do in that area and you're not scared to spend no money because you fly private. Yeah, I ain't never been scared to spend no money. See, there we go.

I'll give you money. you go buy what you want. What you need. Okay, so how about I do that? I give her money, let her go get what she want. But how that's going to work when she make more than me right now? Hey, you got to bite the bullet and say, damn. Because you, I mean, give her a hundred bands cash. Where the hell let me get get 100 grand cash from?

They ain't got that as a goddamn bank. Yes, they do. You order it. I'm with you when you're right. Okay, I'm going to try that tomorrow, then. I'm going to try that tomorrow. I'm just saying. I'm going to try that tomorrow.

Okay, I'm going to let you know. Well, probably when we get to third week of October, I'm going to let you know how it go. Just go ahead and order it. It says I'm going to come in on this date. Right, I'm going to go you, well, probably when we get to third week of October, I'm going to let you know how it go. Just, just go ahead and order it since I'm going to come in on this date. Right. I'm going to go tomorrow. Okay.

Okay. Okay. And they'll, and they'll have it. Okay. Bet. Ah, she,

she, she, she going to let me get some. And the funny thing about it is you could tell this is new to me. I don't, I don't, I don't,

I don't move like that. I don't maneuver like that. So I, you know, I had no idea. And my brother, see that, but see the thing is my kids want the money they'd rather have the money to go do and pay

yeah cause they gonna pay you know I'm gonna pay six months of my rent I'm gonna pay this I'm gonna get that you know me buying them something like okay I still got I got a $5,000 purse, but

I got rent, or I got a car payment. Right, right, right. My kids do it like that. I'm a terrible, because like I said, I don't do rejection well, and I can read body language really well. So I can tell if you're really excited,

or you're like, that's nice. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Now, see, now you don't make me want to get you that. Right.

Okay. Another big announcement came out today. Joel and B commenced to play for team USA in the 2024 Olympics. He was born in Cameroon. He has dual citizenship with the, with France and the USA. And obviously it was very tough. Does he play for his native homeland, Cameroon. He has dual citizenship with France and the USA. And obviously it was very tough. Does he play for his native homeland, Cameroon?

Or does he play for the French team, the French national team? Or does he play for Team USA? Son was born here. States wants to dedicate because his son was born here. Joel Embiid has never competed at the international level due to injuries. But obviously health will be the utmost concern for all the guys because we see a lot of guys. LeBron says, okay, I think I might want to be in Kevin Durant,

Steph Curry, Devin Booker. A lot of guys want to commit because they're like, look, we want to put this once and for all. We steal the king of the mountain when it comes to basketball. Right. So what do you think about Joel Embiid playing for Team USA in 2024 Olympics? I think based on why he said he wants to play for it instead of his native homeland of Cameroon or the French team, I mean, that's on him.

That's a decision that he's made. I'm not sure how long he's been here in the States, but I mean, this happens a lot, obviously with soccer, with many choosing to play elsewhere as opposed to where they were born. And I think it's, I think, I think it's a good thing. It's a good thing for us, especially USA basketball team, based on what we, what we've done. We were good and terrible this year.

It was terrible. But I think all the players, it's funny that all the players, all the great players all at once decided that they want to play in Paris in 2024. Yeah. Do you think they had this all planned? I mean, think about Paris. I heard Paris is really nice.

I mean, most of the guys are married. If they're not, you know, you find your little booth thing and go over there to Eiffel Tower. You can put the locks on the bridge. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I might have gone over to Paris because I heard Paris is really nice. I'm thinking about taking me a trip over there with you.

You ain't even been to Paris? I ain't never been there. You been? Yeah, listen, I've been to Paris multiple times. Obviously, I was able to see Champions League last year. I was able to see Real Madrid and Liverpool play in the finals. Okay, okay. Yeah, the traveling I do.

I had her thinking she's asleep right now. I had her thinking I was taking her to Paris. I'm like, hey, baby, I'm going to take you to Paris, right? So, boom, we get off the plane. She have no idea. And I saw the sign. I said, oh my God, girl, look, Champions League. It's a soccer game here. Not

knowing I had already bought the tickets. So she's thinking I'm taking her to Paris, but I was really taking myself to go out to Champions League. So I just knocked two birds out with one stone. Two birds, one stone. One stone. And that was it. Yeah. I like the way you think. That was not one there.

That was not one there. That was not one there. It was a good one. It was a good one. You got to go back. And so, you know, I want to go to Paris. You know, I want to go to Fashion Week. You know, I got some things on my bucket list.

You be sharp. You be sharp, too. You be sharp. I'm a lazy dresser. I'm not really into fashion like that. What? Yeah. Listen, I put on clothes every blue moon.

It's dinner time. I just can't, man, because fashion is such an expensive taste. Such an expensive taste. And it doesn't always have to be expensive. It's based on you being able to put pieces together. Let's hold off on the pairs because they got a bed bug

outbreak. So I think we're going to hold off until they get that under parents because they got a bed bug outbreak. So I think we gonna hold off until they get that under control. They got a bed bug outbreak? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's bad. It's bad right now. Yeah, I ain't with that. I ain't with that. So we gonna hold off

on parents until they get that bed bug thing under control. Once they get that under control, count your boy in. Once they get that under control, count your boy in. You've been to Rome? Oh, yeah. Oh! Oh, your boy went to Rome. Let me tell you. That's the last time I took a vacation.

That's the last time I took a vacation. I flew into Rome. The young lady that I was going to see. Wait a minute. Talk to me now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? She been to the airport. We've been at the airport and we took a train to Florence. So we all through the countryside, you know,

we in the little nightcars, you know, they bringing us, you know, they just bringing us and bringing us stuff. I'm like, you know, I'm kicked up. I'm like, okay, I can get you to this. So we spent like, yeah, we spent like three, I think three, we spent three nights, three nights in Florence.

Okay. And then we came back to Rome for like three more nights. So I was over there about a week. Damn. I was over there about a week. Wait, hold on,

hold on, hold on. Y'all, have y'all, y'all met previous, before the trip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was, she was,

she was, she was studying. Okay, okay. She was studying abroad. Okay. Well, well, well, I'm glad you, I. She was studying abroad. Okay. Well, I'm glad you mentioned that. So how come she not the one?

Man, that was so long. You know how long ago 1996 was? Oh, this was in 96? You got me thinking this was like last year's time. No, that was the last time I've been on vacation, bro. Oh, man, Rome done changed so much, man. You got to go. I know. As a matter of fact, somebody just told me, say, the carts, the trains, they're much nicer.

So it got me to thinking, you know, I might want to recreate that. You know, recreate that moment. Right. Matter of fact, what you need to do is you need to create it with somebody new and give them the experience to enjoy with you out of town that's never been the wrong. And I'm going to find that for you. You know damn well I ain't going to take the person that I met that I met in 96 back over there. No, that's what I said. I got somebody for you. Just just stay with me.

No, I got somebody. I got somebody. But I got me somebody. I got somebody in mind. Oh, God. Her last name Gomez? Ah, shh. Oh, hell no. I got somebody in mind. You know, Ocho, I was thinking about that. As a matter of fact, I was thinking

about that. I was like, man, that was nice. Ocho, I ain't gonna lie. It was nice. Because I had never done anything like that before. So now, man, that was not, I ain't gonna lie, it was nice. Because I had never done anything like that before. So now, you know, we're going through the country, I've seen movies where, you know, the company staring out the window, you're like, look, honey, and that was me.

Yeah. Look at the cattle and the horse in the countryside, and I'm like, you know, I'm like real touristy, I was into it. Yeah. And, you know, you gotta work, I had to watch out for the pickpocket. I said, hey, I ain't about that. I said, bro, I ain't about that.

Listen, they'll bump into you. I'm not one of your little mofos out. They bump right into you and you have no idea what's going on. I was just waiting for somebody to bump me and I was like, what? It would have been two bumps. He bumped into me and then he'd hit the floor. I go, hey, little kid kid don't come panhandling, I ain't got

nothing for you, go ahead on, don't play with me, but you know what Ocho, you got me thinking, I'm due for a vacation, I'm due for a vacation there you go, then listen to me you know at some point in time you might have to have a new host for about a month, I'm going somewhere for a month.

I got it. I could take care of it all by myself. I could run the show. I could take care of it all by myself. I got you. Hey, I better rather come back to Ogun Ocho show careful because you on some bull, John. I'll leave you in charge. Bro, whatever.

Whatever you ask you. You leave me in charge. Trust me. This thing going to be pumping. We going to be pumping. Oh, God have mercy. Oh, yeah. Yes, sir.

I got you. But you know what? You know, Goyard. You like Goyard. Your girl, I know she like Goyard, right? Not that. I got a few of their pieces. Now we talking.

They fake, though. They fake. No, no, no. They came from Canal Street right there in New York. What Canal Street? In New York. You mean New Orleans? No. They got another one in New York. Swap me.

Yeah, I ain't never been out there. I ain't never been to New York. Swap me, Louis. Nah, nah. I can't do that. What I do is is when she buy her go yard pieces I be using them like they mine oh yeah I like that I got a couple pieces ago we got a couple pieces see yeah I'm saying but that's Ocho bro I ain't saying go out there and just splurge but treat yourself you work hard. Think about it. You work, Ocho.

You're working four nights a week. Yeah. Yeah. And matter of fact, I don't even consider it work because I'm actually enjoying what I'm doing. Like, I look forward to Sunday, Mondays, and Thursdays because this is enjoyable. Talking football, obviously, you know, talking about the game,

but then we get into that section about life. Life. And just, like, yeah, this is enjoyable. know talking about the game but then we get into that section about life life and just like yeah finally this though this is enjoyable this is this is i can't even really put into words on how much i look forward to doing this because it gives me this is my outlet this is my sense of peace away from everything this is like me being on the field on sundays again because i know once i'm on that field i could just be myself. I can let my hair down and just go.

And I ain't got nothing to worry about. I can be vulnerable. I'm comfortable. I like being in this motherfucking space. I like that. And getting nice things, that's all cool. But at the end of the day, I wear it once or I use it once or twice. And then what?

The money going down the drain. That's why I really never been into, you know, all that. Nah, man, I just, it's the same thing with me. You know what? I don't really buy a whole lot. You know, I try to, you know, make sure my family's taken care of, you know, my brother, my sister, my mom, my kids. And so it came, I hadn't really bought anything in about four years. And so this Dodge came out with the Black Ghost.

It's the last year of the gas model Challenger. They're going to the electric model. And I was like, I remember I was in my financial guy, my agent, Marvin Delmont, if I was in his office. I was like, look at this, Marvin. I said, this is the last year they're making this car. He's like, they're nice. You ought to get it.

I was like, I said, they only made 300 of them. But I was like, nah. He said, go on and get it. He said, let me show you why you should get it. So he turned it around. I was like, I got that much? He's like, yeah, treat yourself. I was like, OK. I called the He's like, yeah, treat yourself. I was like, okay.

I called the guy, hey, we good to go. He don't know I had already ordered it anyway. I like that. You know what I'm going to do? You know what I'm going to do for myself? What's that? I promise you this. Every Christmas to pass, I don't know how many Christmases it's been what I'm going to do for myself? I promise you this. Every Christmas, the past,

I don't know how many Christmases it's been, I've never done nothing for myself. That's it. I think this Christmas, I'm going to take your word for it. This Christmas, I'm going to treat myself to something. I'm going to treat myself to something really nice. You're making good money with Uncle Ocho.

Listen, I'm making good money. God has been good to me. I made sure. I said, hey, I said, look, we're partnership. Yeah. Yeah, you got me moving. I'm listening. I feel like Pablo Escobar a little bit.

You hear me? I feel like Pablo a little bit. It's only going to get bigger and better, bro. That's it. That's it. I'm right here for the flag. I'm working behind the scenes trying to get this thing bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah.

Yeah, listen. So when you drop a bag, when you drop 100 bands on Wife, you're like, there ain't nothing. I'll make that up next week. You right. You right by that. I like that. That's why I'm going to do it. That's why I'm going to do it.

I appreciate that. I appreciate you for that. Bro, look. it that's why i'm gonna do it i appreciate that i appreciate you for that bro look my whole thing was is that if i ever got in a situation where i could help um people out and uh use one of the probably actually you're the only person that's like you know and when people they like i said look i want to do something else and like you know let's talk about it you know what if we went live after sunday night monday night thursday night game they're like well who do you want to do it with and i said uh ocho yes ocho ocho who i said ocho seco it's like but what if he what if he says no i think we should we should expand the

net i said no we say no i said i said look here i They said, expand in there. I said, no, I'm throwing one line in the water. I said, that's the fish I want to catch. And so I called Dougie. You know, I know Dougie. Dougie, I've known Dougie 25 years, 20 years. Yes. 20. And I called Dougie.

I said, Dougie, I got this idea. I said, I think Ocho will be perfect for it. Are you interested? He said, it's funny that you say Ocho going to be here in town. I said, can y'all do dinner tomorrow? I mean, can we do lunch? He's like, what time? I say, this time we showed up.

I said, bro, I gave you that. I said, bro, this is what I'm looking to do. X, Y, and Z. You want in? You got the job and you want it? If not, I'm going to take it to somebody. I'm going somewhere else, but I say I'm going to do this. Listen, here's one thing about it.

I love everybody to death that you could work with. But this dynamic here? Ain't nothing. Ain't nobody else pulling this off. When you look at the cast of Martin, right? When you look at the cast of Girlfriends, when you look at the cast of Family, right? When you look at the cast of Girlfriends, when you look at the cast of Family Matters. Living single.

Living single. You can't put nobody else in them dynamics and get the same thing out of it. You just can't. I mean, we got something special, and I'm thankful, I'm grateful, I'm happy, and I'm treating myself Christmas. Because I'm going to put my smart car aside.

And I'm going to go get me something nice. Get you something nice. I'm going to get me something nice. I don't know what I'm going to get anything for Christmas because I got my daughter's birthday coming up in October. I got a son's birthday in November. He's married now because I said, bro, you got to think. I said, you got to think in terms of family now. You just can't think of.

I said, you got a wife and a child. I said, you just can't think of daddy, you know, it's my birthday. So you got to think family now. You just can't thank her. I said, you got a wife and a child. I said, you just can't thank her, daddy. It's my birthday, so you got to thank family now. The gift that you go get, and I got a daughter in med school that she finishes med school in May of 24th. I don't know if I'm going to be able to get myself anything Christmas, but

everybody else is going to be straight. You think you got it. You know my situation. Mind you, all together, I got 11. Ooh, Lord. Yeah. Yeah, I got 11. When I take care of everybody, I just got brother, sister, mom, and three kids.

And my executive assistant, now I got a staff now. But I think they just want money. Yeah, you right. Especially my assistant, Ashley, over here shaking her head. Right, shaking her head. Listen, my assistant is tied in with the missus. So that's two and one. Yeah.

Then I got my kids. They not that bad. And then those I have kids from have also been a blessing along the way in this journey. Like they have been huge. Now, I don't think they understand. I haven't really been I haven't really been on a platform to be able to thank them in general. Like they've made this possible more than anything. And they've done a wonderful job with the kids, man. And just and really get me to this point. Right this point. Really help me get to this point.

I didn't do things the right way. I didn't do the traditional way, but the way I did do them, but the way I did do them, and those individuals don't understand how important they are to my growth and me getting to where I am today. So, I'm

thankful. Very thankful. Right. We should. You should be. Very thankful. Right. We should. You should be. All right. Sunday night, we're back. Yes, sir. With Nightcap. I'm

Shannon Sharp, your favorite. He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, your favorite, number 85. One of the best route runners in NFL history. The best route runners in NFL history. The best route runner in NFL. Today and Sunday night. Okay, no joke.

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