Nightcap - Nightcap - Bengals Upset Jaguars, Zach Wilson vs. Jets, $1M Bet

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Cincinnati Bengals upsetting Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, Zach Wilson's drama with the New York Jets continues, the right way ...to act on a first date and much more! 00:00 - Introduction02:00 - Bengals beat Jaguars06:30 - Zach Wilson vs. Jets24:30 - Proper First date etiquette39:30 - Sheryl Lee Ralph moves for love53:00 - Chad & Shannon's million dollar bet #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:26 So thank you again. Click that like button. Click that subscribe button and make sure you get notified with Nightcap with Uncle Ocho is coming to you too. The Bengals beat the Jags in overtime. Ocho Browning, Jake Browning, 32 of 32 or 37 354 a touchdown Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury and it's just not about this game it's about the ramifications moving forward because the Texans are right there nipping tuck on their heels in the AFC South and if he's down for any substantial amount of time this could be the opportunity opportunity that Texas need to overtake the Jags.
Starting point is 00:05:06 But let's talk about your Bengals get a hard-fought victory on the road to keep their playoff hopes alive. 34-31, Jake Browning, 32-37, 354 to touchdown. What'd you like about your Bengals tonight? I love it. They had a balanced tack. They had a healthy dose of not just the run, but also play action.
Starting point is 00:05:22 A little RPO a little bit, not full RPO, because Browning is not one that's like Lamar Jackson to be able to run the ball. A nice dose of passes to Tee, to Tyler. Chase has some big catches tonight, big clutch catches. And we look good. We look very efficient. I think Browning looked exactly like I expected him to look outside of the high look last week.
Starting point is 00:05:47 OK, now you got two weeks under your belt. You got receivers that make your job somewhat easy. All you have to do is put the ball in a vicinity. You don't have to do much. You don't have to play hero ball. Let them take everything else. And this is what you got today. You had a quarterback that all we need you to do is be efficient.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Don't turn the ball over. Don't throw any picks take what the defense gives you and make sure we have a chance to win the game towards the end and that's exactly what we got from him yeah i think t higgins coming back was a big boost for them obviously now you got a guy that can also beat one-on-one coverage when they start rolling coverage towards chase but chase made made some big-time catches. He had a big touchdown run. I think it was a third down when he caught it. He bobbled it and still somehow secured the catch before he went down. I think that ended up leading to a field goal.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's those type of plays that really sets him apart from some of the other receivers, and that's what you expect from a 1A receiver. Guys make tough plays in tough situations. But you're right. The Bengals played really well last night. I mean, tonight. Well, last night.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Well, last night. Last night, yeah. It's past midnight. Yeah, it's past midnight. They played well last night. But they needed this Ocho. They really needed this victory to keep their playoff hopes alive. They couldn't afford to lose any more games because the Texans, like I said,
Starting point is 00:07:07 but the Texans had already gone and beaten them. So the Texans do own the head-to-head matchup. But now your situation where you get a little closer to Jacksonville because we don't know their situation. I think also the Broncos are also 6-6. And so you know you got the four division winners. They get automatic berth. And then you have three wild cards.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So every game matters. But Trevor Lawrence, man, that was a... Parker Washington. The reason why this happened is because Trevor wanted to throw the ball and he over there bull-jobbing in the route. Bro, get your head around. I was looking at number two on the replay. Like, what was he doing?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Number 11. Number 11. You mean the two receivers, but number 11, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It seemed like he thought it was like a run the way he came off the ball. You saw that too? Yeah, like he wanted to block somebody. I don't know where the miscommunication was at, but he was right there.
Starting point is 00:08:03 All he had to do was just turn. Turn around. But there was a miscommunication between him and but he was right there. All he had to do was just turn. Turn around. But there was a miscommunication between him and the quarterback. And it's unfortunate. I know what Trevor got just based on what happened. It's a high ankle sprain.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Mm-hmm. Because he's planning and the guy, the left tackle... Stepped on his ankle. Hendricks pulls him back. So now he's trying to brace, trying to catch him. And now he steps on Trevor's ankle, rolls it
Starting point is 00:08:26 over. All that weight, man. All that weight. All that weight. All that weight. Yeah. And you know, when you see a guy slam the ground, he knows he's injured. He takes his helmet off on the field. He slams it to the turf. He knows he's injured. This ain't something like, okay, just let me get to the sideline,
Starting point is 00:08:42 re-tape it, I'll be okay. No. I'm injured, guys. I'm injured. I ain't going to spring in on the joke. Let's get to this, Ochoa. This is what I want you to do. Your boy, Zach Wilson. Yeah, that's my – hey, Zach, that's my boy.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I'm going to make sure you steal your boy after this. The Jets reportedly want to make the switch at quarterback. The team is leaning towards Zach Wilson to take back over, but he's reluctant to stepping back in. Hell nah. Hold on. Aaron Rodgers reached out to Zach in an effort to advise him to resume the role as starter, but
Starting point is 00:09:16 Wilson remained apprehensive due to the perceived injury risk. Hell nah. And I don't blame him. And I don't blame him. I mean, man, listen, that's like, stay with me a little bit now. Stay with me, baby. Hell no And I don't blame him And I don't blame him I mean I don't Man listen That's like Stay with me a little bit now
Starting point is 00:09:29 Stay with me baby The people that are watching The people that are watching Stay with me Let's say You have a girlfriend In high school Right
Starting point is 00:09:37 And y'all are dating And all of a sudden You know what She say You know what This ain't really working out I don't even want to be with you no more and she gone and deal with somebody else and you know what she don't really
Starting point is 00:09:50 like him because he ain't nothing like you you know what i'ma come on you know what i messed up i ain't really mean that i think we should i think we should rekindle things and get back together right man if you don't get up out my face, man, the disrespect. Yeah. The disrespect of what the Jets are trying to do, similar to what they're doing to Mac Jones over there. Oh, bench you.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Put somebody else in. Bench you. Man, Zach said, I ain't going for that. I ain't going for that. Do you see what happened? Do you see what happened with Trepacemian? Did you see what he had to deal with? And you think I'm going to go back in the game and deal with that?
Starting point is 00:10:28 When you tried to put the onus and the blame of the struggles of our team on me and use me as their scapegoat? Man, please. I don't blame him. You played in the league a long time. So you tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking. Are you done with the NFL? Or you want to go somewhere?
Starting point is 00:10:47 So I want you to tell me, what are the other teams thinking? You tell me what his teammates are thinking. See, I told you from the jump, he wasn't a guy. But go ahead, tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, you are sure. Okay, hold on. The reports are coming out. A player, they want to put a player back in the game, but he's reluctant or apprehensive. To get him killed? Would you want to get him killed? Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm just saying, do you want to get him killed? The other 31 teams, listen, stay with me. Stay with me. Let me finish. The other 31 teams, the management, the GMs, the people in the front office, and the other 53 players on the other 31 teams, they can see. They watch film.
Starting point is 00:11:29 They play the Jets. They can see what's happening. They can see what's happening to the quarterback position at the Jets. What are they going to say? He ain't going to lead them. He ain't going to lead them. Ain't nobody want him in the team. Ain't nobody want him on their team.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He ain't going to lead them. The eye in the sky don't lie. Oh, Joe, so let me ask you a question. I ain't rolling with that one. I want you to you a question. I ain't rolling with that one. I want you to hear me out. So Zach Wilson would be the first guy that got benched and been asked to go back and resume his starting role. Are you telling me in the 105-year history of the NFL,
Starting point is 00:12:00 Zach Wilson would be the first guy, regardless of position, to lose his job and then been asked to go resume his job. You want him to get killed? I'm just asking. I want him to do his effing job. He tried to do it. How you going to do it? Running for your life. How the fuck you going to do a job running for his life? Get his head knocked off. He can't even do a goddamn three-step drop. How is he going to do a job?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Well, he wasn't reading the coverages. Stay with me. He got benched, right? He got benched. He got benched because he wasn't able to do a job. He wasn't able to play efficient football. He put Trevor Simeon in there. What changed? What happened different? Nothing changed. He got hurt.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Nothing at all. So why you want him to go back and do a job when he couldn't do it the first time? Because that's his job as a football player. You don't get to determine, well, since you benched me, I'm going to sit on the sidelines and sulk. Your job is on NFL football. So let me ask you a question. So guess what? So I don't have to pay it?
Starting point is 00:12:59 No. How in my ass do I have to pay it? Hey, listen. I love you to death. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly where you're coming from. But I'm standing with Zach Wilson on this. You ain't finna send me out there
Starting point is 00:13:15 with no goddamn collateral damage to get my ass kicked. Uh-uh. I ain't got nothing to work with. Well, guess what? I ain't got nothing to work with. If I'm in jail, I'm going to suspend you for conduct discriminative.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm going to suspend you for conduct detrimental. I'm going to suspend it for conduct detrimental. Don't have me in no wheelchair talk about, you don't want to kick it? Nah, don't do me like that. I'm going to have to suspend it for conduct detrimental
Starting point is 00:13:34 to the team. You ain't got to play. I'll sit you down. You ain't going to get no checks, though. Hey, listen. Put me out there like that is conduct detrimental
Starting point is 00:13:42 to my mental health. Put me out there like that is conduct detrimental. What you think. Put me out there like that is conduct. What you think his teammates been thinking? How you think they been living when he was out there been sucking for two and a half years? Nah. It ain't him. Who in the hell has been great at the quarterback position for
Starting point is 00:14:00 the Jets since Joe Namath? Since you want to blame Zach Wilson for the past two years. What about the other 20 years? What about the other 20 years? What about the other 20? Mark Sanchez. How far back do we need to go? So let me ask you a question. Is Mark Sanchez better than Zach Wilson?
Starting point is 00:14:15 Because he got him in two AFC championship games riding a top-notch defense. So I'm going to ask you again. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who got him there? A top-notch what? Defense. Okay, thank you. Whoa! Hold on. Now whoa, whoa, whoa. Who got him there? A top-notch what? Defense. Okay, thank you. Whoa! So now you, hold on.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Now, I want you to know, hey, Chad, y'all chime in. Chad Ochocinco told me the Jets defense like that. When Robert Sugg was talking... The Jets defense is like, they are like that. Oh, they are!
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah. And you know what? The Jets offense is like that because they got Alan Lazar and they got motherfucking Gary Wilson. Man, Alan Lazar. You want to know
Starting point is 00:14:46 who the problem is? Oh. Can I tell you who the problem is? Yeah. Who? The play calling. The play calling. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I want to trust you, but I don't know if I can trust you because I know you told me Chase Claypool just needed a change of scenery from Pittsburgh, from Chicago. And when the last time you heard Chase Claypool just needed a change of scenery from Pittsburgh, from Chicago, and when the last
Starting point is 00:15:06 time you heard Chase Claypool's name called in Miami? Well, goddamn, they got goddamn Tyreek, goddamn Hill, and Jalen, goddamn Waddle, and they got Berrios. You told me Chase Claypool was a vending machine. All of them. What is a vending machine? You know what a vending machine is, don't you?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh, you know what a vending machine is? They got a whole lot of things. Sometimes they got sodas. Sometimes they got chips. Sometimes they got a gum. You know, I've seen vending machines that have cell phone cameras. You just give me all these analogies with the cell phone. But hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:15:36 When you got a vending machine, if ain't nobody put no goddamn quarters in you, ain't nobody buying shit. So what you want to do? Because everybody know the material in there defective. Vending machine just sit on the side. Old ass soda. Who's drinking soda that's been in their
Starting point is 00:15:47 half the can because it's done evaporated? Nah. Nah, that ain't got nothing to do with it. That ain't got nothing to do with it. But listen,
Starting point is 00:15:52 I understand what you're saying and the people in the chat, I want you to listen and stay with me and have a better understanding and really think about what's going on over there in New York.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You're not going to use Zach Wilson as his scapegoat and understand the troubles and the struggles that we are having offensively. And then you're going to bench me and say, well, damn, okay, I'm the issue. We're struggling. And then put somebody else in for me and you see him get killed as well. And obviously Aaron Rodgers, when he, you know, the few plays he did play, he was having to run for his life in just a short amount of time, and nothing has changed. Nothing has changed.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And now to tell me, oh, now, you know, we want you to go back in there. Hell no! You got me fucked up. Oh, you know, excuse me, I almost cursed. I apologize. You ain't got to go in there. We ain't got to worry about paying you either. I mean, you're going to get that check for all that bullshit y'all put him through.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Hey, not if I suspend him. Not if I suspend him. Let me ask you a question. If the Bengals told Ochoacin to go, huh? Suspend him for what? Hold on. They need to suspend the goddamn front office who got the goddamn team so goddamn incompetent
Starting point is 00:17:01 the past two goddamn 30 years and not building the right team for the goddamn fans of New York goddamn city. That's what gets us suspended. Yeah, you suspend the guy that drafted Zach Wilson. Who made the calls? Who do the goddamn drafting? Who do the drafting with the Jets?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Whoever drafted Zach Wilson made a huge mistake. Yeah, well, shit. Whoever been doing the drafting for the Jets the past 20, 30 years, they need I don't know about 20, 30 years, but I know a guy, the same guy that drafted Quentin Williams. Whoever been doing the drafting for the rest of the past 20, 30 years, they need it. I don't know about 20, 30 years, but I know a guy, that same guy that drafted Zach Wilson, drafted Quentin Williams.
Starting point is 00:17:32 That pretty good. He drafted Sal Salzgarner. That pretty good. Really good, yeah. Oh, he drafted Gary Wilson. That pretty good. That's very good. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Very good. Okay. Yeah, very good. But there's a certain position that matters in sports, especially when it comes to the NFL. When it comes to the NFL, you're only as good as your quarterback. You're only going to go as far as your quarterback and his supporting cast. What's up here?
Starting point is 00:17:57 What's in here, Ocho? What's up here? What's in here, Ocho? You already know what the deal is. Yeah, Ocho. You already know what the deal is. Yeah, I know. Y'all not finna use Zach as no goddamn...
Starting point is 00:18:09 Talk about some... Come on, come on. That's like, and you know good and well, if some chick left you and things didn't go well with the next one, she came back
Starting point is 00:18:17 trying to holler at you again, you better kick rock. Ocho, Ocho, you got to look at a situation like this. Don't even play at my top like that. Ocho, but you got to look at it like this is
Starting point is 00:18:26 like a job. I mean, you might get demoted on a job. Now, you can either leave the job or they say, okay, it didn't work out. We want you to resume your role. You can say hell no, and they say, I'm going to fire you or I'm going to suspend you for conduct detrimental. The choices
Starting point is 00:18:42 are yours. Where's the conduct detrimental? Ocho, if they try to put you back in harm's way off of what? Have you been watching the Jets this season? I've been watching the Jets. That's conduct detrimental.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Ocho, anytime you play in a football game, Jack, I'm at a risk. Zach Wilson's at a risk. You were at a risk. I'm at a risk. Zach Wilson's at a risk. You were at a risk. Everybody was at a risk. But the objective, but the problem is, is that when they, I couldn't, if Mike and them tried to put me in, if Brian Billy and them tried to put me in, nah, y'all ain't been rocking with me this long.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Y'all go be at home. Come on, you ain't built like that. That's different. You ain't built like that. Listen, in the onus of the team, the franchise is not on your shoulders. That's completely different. Now, the quarterback position,
Starting point is 00:19:30 especially quarterbacks in general, they're very fragile. They're very fragile, obviously, based on... Yes, sir. Ocho, how you going to look at your quarterback and you know what we going through as a team? And regardless of position and he said we out there fighting yeah fighting what fighting what the jets still think the guys
Starting point is 00:19:53 the jets are playing you don't think that defense playing hard the defense is playing extremely well they are still playing extremely, even though the offense at this point in the season, they've been up and down. They've been up and down. Zach Wilson tried to do the best that he could with what he had to work with. I still, honestly, no bullshit. I still think it's the play calling
Starting point is 00:20:17 because there's too much talent offensively with Brees Hall, Gary Wilson, and Alan Zard and creativity that they can have offensively whereas you look the way it does. That's all I've been saying. That's all I've been saying. But here's the thing. I'm not saying that's not the case, but just because
Starting point is 00:20:34 I got a crappy boss, that does not excuse me from doing my job. That's the problem that he's running into. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I agree with everything that you said, that Nathaniel Hackett, we saw how he looked miserably in Denver, and we see how he's looking now.
Starting point is 00:20:51 All those things may be true, but that does not exalt me of my responsibility of going out there and playing to the best of my ability. You just told me. I remember I told you about the quarterback and having confidence and a belief. You was like, I don't give a damn if I don't believe. I got a responsibility to do my job.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I got to go out there and be my own. What happened to your responsibility to go do your job? Well, I mean, I was talking about coming from a place of me being me and me going to do... So you want a guy like that leading you? That guy right there...
Starting point is 00:21:27 Well, listen, if that guy would lead me, he wouldn't be going through the issues he's going through right now. He wouldn't be going through them issues. Man, stop.
Starting point is 00:21:34 He wouldn't be going through... Man, listen, why you better check my resume? Don't play at me. Hold on. So it's not the play callers. So you say... Come first?
Starting point is 00:21:43 I wouldn't care what the play... I don't care... I don't... Nathaniel Hackett can call what he Come first? I wouldn't care what the play callers. I don't care. Nathaniel Hackett can call what he want. When I break that huddle, I say, Zach, if the safety's in the middle of the field, I don't care what the play call. Let that bitch come my way. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I'm going to make your job easy. You got the right one. I'm going to make your job easy. Yeah. I mean, look at how it looked last year when the other quarterback was in there with Gary Wilson. He won Offensive Player of the Year,
Starting point is 00:22:08 Rookie of the Year. He didn't have to be Einstein. He just had to have marginal competence. That's it. That's it. But again, who's calling the plays again? Nathaniel Hackett. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Listen, I'm not one to talk about people, but I mean, let's talk about the elephant in the room before we get to blaming Zach Wilson. But anyway, let's go. Well, the poll, we got 3,000 votes so far. 57% we agree with. 43% agree with you. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:22:43 57%. What y'all doing, man? Think about your job. Think about your workplace. If your boss played with your. Come on, man. 57%. What y'all doing, man? Think about your job. Think about your workplace. If your boss played with your head like that, you know what? I don't even really think you the one for the job. Where you working at? So we're going to move on to Larry. Wait, we're going to move on to Larry
Starting point is 00:22:58 and let Larry do it. They get Larry and that motherfucker for a week and your boss come back to you, you know what? Larry wasn't it, man. Larry wasn't it. Yeah, you think you could come on back? Hell no. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Don't play me like that. You just, hold on. Didn't you just tell me as hard as the economy is right now and these godforsaken times that people can just turn down jobs and the holidays right around the corner? Yeah, holidays around the corner now.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Exactly. So guess what? When Larry didn't pay it out and your boss come back and say, hey, you think you can fill back in? What you think they're going to say when the holidays right around the corner? I sure can.
Starting point is 00:23:35 That's exactly what they're going to say. Okay, that was a horrible analogy. I'm hoping people understand where I'm coming from. But I understand. I'm going to empathize with Zach because he's done all he can. You think about training camp
Starting point is 00:23:50 and off-season program and all the work you put in and things aren't panning out and they sit you down and all of a sudden they try another quarterback and you on the bench you're like, damn, they tried me. Look at the fucking bullshit I got to deal with.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And then, oh, now you want me to come back and... Man, man, don't get me started. Oh, Joe, I got to deal with. And then, oh, now you want me to come back and... Man, don't get me started, man. Ocho, I got Nathaniel High Voltage 52 donated to $20. Another show, Ocho. Another $20. Hey, Ocho, just because my job causes me stress, I still got to show up if I
Starting point is 00:24:17 want to get paid in this damn economy. Everyone thinks I'm a cowboy hater because of my critiques. Objective cowboy fan hey nathan hoss voltage 52 did i tell you there's no such thing as objective and cowboy merged together but i appreciate you man i really appreciate you nathan uh watching the show man it means a lot to us that we have so many regular people that tune in on sundays mondays and thursdays and sometimes we're going to have,
Starting point is 00:24:46 coming up in the very near future, we're going to have some Saturday night games. So we really appreciate it. But we understand you're absolutely right. Just because your boss stresses you out, if you want to get paid in this economy, mortgage, car note, utilities, grocery. Listen, I like where you're going with it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I like where you're going with it, but I don't don't like it's not a fair assessment to really compare the NFL athlete with us working people you know you got a job show your ass up and do your job there's been a lot of times coaches have said something have done things I still got to do
Starting point is 00:25:23 my job it does not absorb me of doing my job because they pissed me off. Man, I'm a man. Y'all ain't calling no plays for me, lad. I ain't running no routes. Right, right. But, you know, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm with you right and you wrong at the same time. Can I say that? Okay. Hey, listen, two things can be true. Okay, we're going to agree. Two things can be true. But I'm still side with Zach for the disrespect of what they're doing and understanding what, you know what? They're disrespecting the Jets with that play.
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Starting point is 00:30:32 What would be your thoughts if your date finished her entire plate? That's what I'm talking about. When you go on a date, that's the problem today, man. You go on a date, women all about being cute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:44 They all about being cute. Or I'm going to eat a little bit. Or I'm shy. Or I'm timid. I'm scared to eat in front of them. When you get one of them women, man, listen, when you get one of them women, you take her on a date. She look at the menu. She's assertive. She know what she want. She order food. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Baby, you good? Okay, I'm finna get in this. You need anything? No? Okay, boom. And she going to work. Man, that's what I'm talking about finna get in this. You need anything? No? Okay, boom. And she going to work? Man, that's what I'm talking about. I like that too. Them your day ones. Yeah. Them your day ones.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Them the ones you keep around. All the motherfucking cute shit and trying to pretend you somebody. Oh, I eat a salad. Yeah, I'm a salad. And I don't really do this on the first night with the drinks. I'm good. I don't want none of that.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yeah. Be yourself. I don't want to meet your representative Yeah, every time you go on a date you're meeting somebody representative Please show your true colors from day one so it ain't no surprises down the goddamn line If you greedy be greedy on the first date. Yeah, go ahead be greedy on the first date. I Just know I got to work hard to make sure I feed you hell. I rather close you to feed you like that That's that's it. That's all to it, man I just know I got to work hard to make sure I feed you. Hell, I'd rather close you than feed you. You eat like that.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's it. That's all to it, man. I never forget. Me and baby, me and baby went, you know, obviously, you know, we went on our first date, man. And, man, she, I'm, God damn. Did you eat today? Yeah. Man, she, boy, she was going, I'm, yeah. I just want one time to say, Shannon, I want one time to say, somebody tell me, say, Shanna, I'm going to take you out to dinner.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I ain't going to eat for three days. When I get done with that, you're going to think I'm Joy Chestnut. I'll be like, he ate seven hot dogs. When I get done with all the plays, Ocho, I'm going to have them looking at me like, who got by the plate? You know how that girl had on one of those 48 oysters? Yeah. Man,
Starting point is 00:32:25 she was tripping. Yeah, I bet she was tripping. I don't want you, don't be that greedy. Look, I want you to be, hey,
Starting point is 00:32:32 order something, eat it all, baby. I ain't judging you. I'm not judging you. If you want to get a, if you want to get an appetizer,
Starting point is 00:32:40 take off. You want to get a salad, take off. You want to get an entree? Dang, dang, dang what you said. Now, what you told, what you told. I know the chat, they watching. They watch the show now.
Starting point is 00:32:50 What you told the chat? What come with lobster? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about. No, no, no. Hold on, Ocho. Ocho, I ain't have no bread like that then. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I ain't have no bread like that. You got money now. No, no, no. I got a little bread now. But still, don't order no lobster now. Come on now. We can get the salmon or we can get a piece of fish.
Starting point is 00:33:11 We can get the Dover sole. We can get the Scottish salmon. Come on now. We can be sensible now. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, I'm just checking. Y'all trying to get... Y'all trying to come in and get...
Starting point is 00:33:21 I had the context. I had the context wrong. Yeah, y'all coming in and trying to get the seafood tower. They got three lobster tail, four crab claws, scallops, oranges. Yeah. Come on now. Okay, you're right.
Starting point is 00:33:33 You're right. But yeah, I wouldn't have a problem if I went on a date and she ate everything. I mean, I'm expecting it. I mean, you said you wanted to go out to eat. Go out to eat, yeah. And it's not last minute because I'm expecting it. I mean, you said you wanted to go out to eat. Go out to eat, yeah. And it's not last minute because I'm not a last minute type of a guy. That's the only
Starting point is 00:33:53 problem. Ladies, ladies, I'm sure there are a lot of women in the chat, man. If you go on a date, you're going on dates with dudes, man. Stop trying to impress, man. Stop trying to do all this cute shit, man. Be yourself. Show him what he's going to have to expect, you know, all this cute shit, man. Be yourself. You know, show him what he's going to have to expect. You go eat, you're going to eat.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Be greedy. Use your fork, use your hands. All that cute shit, man. Yeah, there's certain things. Chicken, ribs. Those are hand food. They're not food that you cut. Yeah, they're not food
Starting point is 00:34:19 that you cut off with a fork and do all that trying to be cute. Yeah. Matter of fact, if you get ribs and you get dirty, you know how the ribs be up under your nails? Yeah, yeah. Take your finger.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Take your finger. Take with all the ribs and stuff on it and the barbecue sauce. Man, put it in his mouth on the first date. Huh? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you speeding, now. We're in a night, we're in a school zone. You know, you can't go more than 15, 20 miles an hour in the school zone.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Now you're speeding. No, I'm not speeding. I'm not speeding. I got my seatbelt on. I got my seatbelt on. But listen, we got to understand now you're going on dates. You're going on dates with the sole purpose of reaching the end goal. We know what the end goal is. Ain't nothing
Starting point is 00:35:01 wrong with a little foreplay before you get there. That's what the... Come on, Ocho. We got to build up to that. That's like six months in. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to do one of you. I'm going to pull you.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Y'all got to take my glass up on that. I've been waiting six months. Okay, maybe six months is Hold on. Okay, okay. Maybe six months is a little long. But you licking fingers on the first night? Man, the first. Licking fingers and toes.
Starting point is 00:35:32 What you talking about? Not on the first night, Ocho. God. Man, the first. Man, listen. If anybody in this chat from Miami, listen. Boy, me and Real, I can tell you our business. Because we family We family
Starting point is 00:35:46 And everybody watching We family And I don't have Nothing to be shamed of First night Boy, we was in We was in Okeechobee At the Executive Palace
Starting point is 00:35:54 $30 room With a little disco ball In the jacuzzi Yeah Listen, I ain't got time To play no game with you Oh, Joe What you trying
Starting point is 00:36:02 Wait, hold on Stay with me now Listen, I'm I'm 45, 55 years old. I'm about to kick the bucket in a minute. What you trying to do? We going to be together or not? I ain't got time to be going on three dates. I ain't got time to be no 90 day rule. I ain't got time for that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Listen, when you go, man, I ain't got time to waste. So you going for all the O's. Toes, elbows, and you ain't got time to waste. So you going for all the O's. Toes, elbows, and you ain't got one more left. Huh? Listen, when you go to the car wash, you want your shit detailed, don't you?
Starting point is 00:36:35 When you go to the car wash, you want your shit detailed, don't you? From the toes to the feet, from head to toe, everything. Back to front, everything getting touched. Ocho, I can't get full service on the first night. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got my $15.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I ain't got my $15. Give me one of them quick watches. Man, you're going for full detail. You get the end out, the edge and everything. Come on, Ocho. You know, what's funny is that I have a better understanding when you know, when you're younger. When you're younger, you're in your 20s, you know, you're a teenager.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I understand the waiting and understanding the process and the process of getting to know. But as you get older, you understand, you know, the gray area, the in-between, and the understanding that when you meet somebody, you're meeting a representative of themselves. You don't see their true colors until you've been together for three or six months or if they've already gotten what they wanted to attain from you,
Starting point is 00:37:31 which normally, nine times out of ten, if the sex is good, they're going to be around anyway. So why not get it out of the way? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Unc, why not get it out?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Just get it out of the way. As you get older, you don't want to play that game no more, Unc. I don't want to play that game. Real, listen, we're meeting. We're going to go to dinner. We're going to go to... You want to play that game no more i ain't want to play that game real listen we meeting where we gonna go to dinner we're gonna go to you want to go eat we went to eight boom man you know sweetie they got some nice rooms over here highly a man 30 dollar rooms man the executive palace i ain't really trying to spend no money like that what you trying to do oh she was oh yeah not four years later where we years later, where we at? Yeah, yeah. We getting married next year in the Bahamas, man.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And you a... I got you a first one. That's your... You see how that worked? That night. I ain't waste no time. You don't have to waste no time. But the finger on the toes on the first one?
Starting point is 00:38:17 On the first one? With the barbecue sauce? With the barbecue... With the barbecue sauce. I don't even really be licking my hand like that. That's the problem, Uncle. You got to live a little bit. You got to expand your horizon, man.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I got to go to the bathroom and wash your hands for you. You know, like you're a little kid. You know how the mama wash the hand with the little kid dad wash the hands? Yeah, yeah. I got to wash your hand myself then. No, you don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I got to do that, Uncle. You got to give your... Listen, I want you to be healthy, baby. I want you to be around to see 90. You got to give your immune system practice I want you to be healthy, baby. I want you to be around the C90. You got to give your immune system practice. You don't need to... It's okay to be dirty sometimes.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Give your immune system time to practice. If you always cleaning yourself, your body ain't getting no practice on the inside. Come on, now. I don't know about that one, Ojo. I'm going to have to get that one some thought. Hey, listen, I'm feeling good. We're going to be on this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:39:06 three hours a night because I'm feeling good. Ocho, check this out. Rel's friend, the doctor, just donated $500 again. She said, Happy Holidays. I'd like to invite you
Starting point is 00:39:19 as my plus one to an event hosted by one of your fellow Hall of Fame brethren. I'm on the board. I will apprise Rel of the details. Cheers. Yes, sir. That's 2,000.
Starting point is 00:39:32 That's 2,000, boy. Hey, Unc, listen here, Unc. Unc, I ain't never seen nothing like this. I ain't never. This is what I'm talking about. Ladies, take notes. In life, it's okay to be assertive. When you see something you want
Starting point is 00:39:45 You go for it You drop little hints You drop little dimes You do things That get you in the dough So in other words I'm listening to you So you like
Starting point is 00:39:55 You like sex on the first date You first The first night You good with that Huh? You good with sex on the first date First date What you waiting for?
Starting point is 00:40:03 What you wait If you grown What you waiting for? See this is the If you're grown, what you waiting for? See, this is the problem. Now you sit around here. Wait, let's stay with me now, baby. You sit around here and you go through
Starting point is 00:40:11 all these motherfucking traditional motherfucking values and morals and all that shit. You do your little three months and all of a sudden you do it and it's bad. Then what you going to do? Now you done wasted
Starting point is 00:40:20 three months of your goddamn time. Waited three months of your goddamn time and now you don't want no more of that bullshit. Goddamn, but I waited. I waited three months of your goddamn time. Waited three months of your goddamn time. And now you don't want no more of that bullshit. I waited three months for this shit. This whack. She all off rhythm.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And, you know, she's doing this. Like, come on, huh? It's in people in the chat. Don't be laughing. I know some of you are laughing because you've been through it. And you know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm about the first day. I'm about the first night.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I'm about the first hour. That's too the first night. I'm about the first hour. That's too long. I ain't got that kind of time. Like you said, I'm 55. I don't know how much time. I need to go to get out of here. Listen, sometimes listen, different strokes for different folks. I'm just
Starting point is 00:40:59 telling you me. I mean, what's worked for me as I've gotten old in life and understanding all that waiting and all that going through all the rigmarole, it doesn't change the end result, no matter what you do. It doesn't change the end. The end result is going to be the end result no matter what. If I rock
Starting point is 00:41:16 with you, it could be the first night, the second night. If I ain't going to rock with you, I can wait a week, I can wait a month, I can wait six months. It is what it months. Yeah. It is what it is. Yep. There's nothing in ladies.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong. If you want to wait, that's a personal preference. Oh, yeah. I'm not here to judge what you do or what you and your partner, the agreement that you guys have or whatever it is, like, hey, I need 30 days, I need 45 days, I need 60 days.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Right. Uh-uh. Listen, you can wait two years. You can wait one day. Yeah. Whatever his intentions are regards to how long you wait,
Starting point is 00:42:02 he is going to be there if you are that one. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. See, you may, see, like,
Starting point is 00:42:11 you may, you may, you make things happen for real. See, I was in a situation, like, I made reservations. And the place that I made reservations to, it had burnt, it caught fire.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So it was closed. So I called her. It caught I called her yes the restaurant had closed so I called her and tell her we're not going to be able to go out to eat because the restaurant closed I said it burned down you know what she said to me
Starting point is 00:42:39 you was lying she said what the F that got to do with me she said you that in right she got to do with me? She said, you that in, right? You Shannon Sharp. Whoa, whoa, whoa. She talk to you like that for real? She said, you that in, right? She say, you Shannon Sharp.
Starting point is 00:42:54 You Big Balls McGee. Nah, that's a liability. Make it happen. I was like, oh, really? She say, you told me you was that boy dog. I had to get on the phone. Because, Ojo, I don't like, for me, I don't really like to call establishments and tell people who I am. I'll go through the proper channels.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I'll call. Can I get a reservation? If they booked up, I'll call. I'll call. And I'll get in another time. I don't really like to call and say who I am to try to get in. I don't really do that. But, you know, I know a few people. I made it happen. Yeah. Good thing I did.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, I don't like the way she came at you, though. I don't like the way she talked to you. I don't like that. I like that. You did? you. I don't like that. I like that. You did? Yeah. That was aggressive, though. Hey, Ocho, you know what I'm telling you?
Starting point is 00:43:53 If it ain't rough, it ain't me. Okay. Talk to me in a term that I can understand. That passive. Don't be passive aggressive. Tell me what you want. And if I can do it, I'm going to make it happen. I'm going to tell you that I can't
Starting point is 00:44:10 make it happen. And I ain't got no problem telling you what I can or can't do. Because I'm the type of guy, promises are like pie crust, thin and easily broken. I'm going to make a commitment. So if I can do it... Hold on now. Let me write that down.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Now, woman, let me give a pen and paper. Yeah, if you think, boy, if you think I ain't going to use that one on real. Boy, pie crust. Promises like pie crust. Stand and ease the road. Promises like pie crust. So if I tell you something, I have every intention on being able to deliver that.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Right, right. So, like I said, talk to me. I'm not saying be disrespectful. I like that. But what he was saying is that if you are what you said you were, what you claim to be.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Right, right. You got to stand on that. Yes, I know you can. I like that. I know you can make it happen. Right, I like that. that. Yes. I know you can make it happen. Right. I like that. I like that. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Let's make it happen. Check this out. I'm glad you just said that because the doctor, you listening? You listening? You telling me what you need to do?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Be a little aggressive. Be a little aggressive. Yeah, there you go. I like that. I like that old joke. Despite being married for 15 years cheryl lee ralph is finally moving in with her husband vincent at 15 years the two have been in a bi-coastal relationship for 15 years cheryl worked on abbott's elementary and kept her anchored
Starting point is 00:45:40 in la while vincent responsibilities had him tied to Philadelphia. But according to a source, regular visits every two weeks is no longer enough. Cheryl is moving to Philly. She will travel to L.A. to work, but the moment the camera stops rolling, she's heading home
Starting point is 00:45:56 to her husband. Wow. Wow. Traditional values on the way things work ain't for everybody no
Starting point is 00:46:10 Miss Shirley Ralph has been smiling for 20 plus years no issues no problems so she did what works for her I think one of the one of the problems
Starting point is 00:46:25 that we always have is the traditional values and the way we are constructed to believe things are supposed to go in life. What society says normally. It says the socially constructed things, you try to abide by a certain set of rules that don't really fit who you are.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Right. Sometimes they don't fit who you are. You have to do what works for you. And I think that's where people make the mistake in trying to abide by those rules when they really don't align with your traditional values
Starting point is 00:46:53 or whatever your values may be. Right. And this is a prime example. Well, fuck what they talk about how it should go. We're going to do what works for us. And I think that's why she's been so happy for so
Starting point is 00:47:06 long. And the timing of when they decided to move in, it works for them. We need more time with each other. Every two, the once every other week, either I come to, either I come to Philly or you come to LA, that's no longer sustainable. You need
Starting point is 00:47:22 more, I need more. So now we have a meeting of the mind. That's what, that's all, you know,. So now we have a meeting of the mind. That's all a contract. You know, a contract used to be a meeting of the minds. Ocho, you know what? There was no contract where you signed something. We had a meeting of the mind. Okay, Ocho, I tell you what, I'm going to deliver you a dozen eggs and two pounds of cheese. And when you slaughter your hog, you're going to give me a shoulder or you're going to give me some grain okay that was the contract somewhere along the lines you got what you were supposed to get but didn't give me what i was supposed to get and so now there was no longer
Starting point is 00:47:58 a meeting of the minds so now we got to put things on an eight by ten we got to have a contract they said okay you're going to deliver the pound of cheese and you're going to deliver the egg and in return, you're going to get this. So the contract that they had with each other and you know what, Ocho, it was able to be amended on the fly. Because when you go into, what am I getting into? Who is this person? Well, you know, she was an actor, actress. You know he had responsibilities in Philly, but you decided to tie the knot. Okay. And before that, they had it like, okay, so what's going to be the agreement?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Am I going to stay in L.A.? You stay in Philly. We commute. And that worked for them for 15 years. Right. Right. Hell, right. Hell, I know people get married and they don't, I mean, they don't sleep in the same bed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:52 But that worked for them. I wonder, you know, I should try that. What do you think about? Nah, because you and Real done been living together. Because she's going to bang something up. Because anytime you change, that sets off a person's antenna. Right, right, right. I can't change my routine, huh? You start wearing different colognes. She starts wearing different colognes.
Starting point is 00:49:12 All of a sudden, she starts wearing, you know, she normally wears, you know, nice French cut boy shorts and all of a sudden, she's wearing thong underwear. Oh, shit. Hold on. Hold on, honey. All of a sudden, she started working out. My grandfather used to say,
Starting point is 00:49:27 my grandfather used to say, hey, boy, if a woman start working out all of a sudden, she's getting the body ready for somebody else to feel naked. I'm just saying, Ocho, that's what he's saying. Oh, shit. That's all I'm saying. Boy, let me call her right now. I ain't got, I don't like the way that sounds.
Starting point is 00:49:42 She wants somebody else to see what her body look like without them clothes. Oh, well, that right there make me sick. That make me sick to my stomach. No, Ocho. But the thing is that you know you've been with her long enough. And that's why women can catch a guy because all of a sudden you start doing something different than what you've done from the day she met you. And she's going to see pattern. Right, right, right, right, right, right. It's hard. That's why we are animals. We're
Starting point is 00:50:13 instinctive and we'll do the same thing. That's why elephants know they know where to go to the water. Yeah, that too. Humans, you try to break it, but you have a modus operandi. You have a method in which you operate. Operate, yeah. And mine has never changed for years. For years. So you already know when I'm acting a fool when my routine changes. I do the same
Starting point is 00:50:38 things over and over and over. And if that pattern changes or it sways just a little bit, I'm up to no good and she and she knows that that that's good but really really quick before before you even finish a lot of the people a lot of the women especially a lot of the fellas too okay the context of the shirley the shirley shirley ralph and them doing what works for them i need most of you all of you that are watching and listening stop trying to abide by the rules
Starting point is 00:51:07 that they have. I'm not going to say brainwashed, that they have constructed for us to live by. Because sometimes that might not work for you. It might not work for you. You find a partner,
Starting point is 00:51:17 find your one, or find somebody you're willing to spend time with. Even if it ain't for the long haul, whoever you're spending your time with, do what works for you. Right. Do what works for you
Starting point is 00:51:27 because obviously the way they tell us it should be done, it ain't working because if you look at statistics, it ain't looking too good. Well, consider the average marriage in the U.S. They said a study,
Starting point is 00:51:37 I think it was 2022 or 2023, the average marriage is about seven to eight years. So they've already doubled that with 15. So, but, and keep people out your business. Stop telling your girlfriends everything. Stop telling your family everything and you'll be just fine. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower
Starting point is 00:52:00 listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast,
Starting point is 00:52:38 focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
Starting point is 00:54:27 What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit
Starting point is 00:54:53 in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oxford picked Riz as the word of the year. Oxford University Press now has named Riz as its word of the year, highlighting the popularity of the term
Starting point is 00:55:20 used by Generation Z to describe someone's ability to attract or seduce another person. Oh, so you got that Riz, huh? You got that Riz, huh? Riz? R-I-Z-Z. What that mean? That's something new? It's the ability to attract or seduce another person. Okay. Okay. I like that. Ability to seduce or attract another person. Yeah. I thought that was swag. Yeah. Well, you know, that was a... Hold on, what did you talk about?
Starting point is 00:55:57 Charm. Charm. Let me see. The ability to attract... Yeah, most, I mean, when it comes to women, women like a guy
Starting point is 00:56:08 that carries himself a certain way. They like confidence. They like a sense of humor. Yeah, that's swag. That's all a part of, it's under the same umbrella. Women like,
Starting point is 00:56:16 women like men that can make them laugh, like a confident man that can make them laugh. If you confident and can make a man laugh or make a woman laugh. Make a woman laugh.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah. Yeah, laugh, laugh, laugh right up out them laugh. If you confident and can make a man laugh or make a woman laugh, Ocho. Yeah, laugh right up at them clothes. Laugh right up at them clothes. Easy. Boy, you so crazy. Boy, you funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. I keep my five or six over Ocho. I just keep five or six handy just in case. You know what I'm saying? Keep them coming. Fan questions, Uncultured Jazz. Hey, Uncultured Ocho, outside of normal things, what are some of the more unrecognized things
Starting point is 00:56:55 you guys go through throughout the season? Throughout the season? Unrecognized? Yeah. Shoot, I don't really go through nothing throughout the season. Unrecognized? Yeah. Shoot, I don't really go through nothing throughout the season. I just think that just the normal responsibility. I think the thing is for me
Starting point is 00:57:16 is that the amount of responsibility of the head of everything, you know. Right. My family, I'm in charge. Okay, I see what you're going on. When, my family, I'm in charge. Okay. When they need something, I'm the guy. And that's why I work so hard because I have so many people counting on me and I don't want to let anybody down. Damn, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But I got kids. I got my brother, my sister, my mom. I've got other people, other responsibilities. Now I got a team that's counting on me to show up and to do what I need to do to make sure they get their paychecks twice a month, that everybody's bills are taken care of. So I just think the thing for me is that, and it's something that I relish, is that I think every person that I've been with probably over the last 15 years have pretty much told me the same thing. I don't know if a relationship is the most important thing to you. I think work and your responsibility that comes along with that is the most important.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So I've tried to try to like okay yeah work is important people are counting on me but let me because i don't i'm not good at multitasking you know like a lot a lot of women can do a hundred things they can have the baby they can be on the computer ordering this they can be doing the stuff that they that you've asked them to do i can't do any of that yeah i got a singular focus right now that you've asked them to do, I can't do any of that. Yeah. I got a singular focus. Right. Now that you've answered that and given me better context
Starting point is 00:58:48 on the question that he asked because it was kind of just really wasn't enough context in it, but the way you answered it, I mean, it's similar to the same as far as in season
Starting point is 00:58:59 things I have to do, but it's such a routine that I do out of season as well. Right. And I don't even count it. You know what I mean? It ain't no season.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It ain't no season. It's something that it's a yearly thing. It's a year round thing. And it has been for years because I'm used to it. Obviously kids being important, kids, tuition, those that are in school, have the little ones, obviously, you know, kids in high school. So it's kind of different. So that's why I said, as soon as, as soon as the question was asked, what else do you have to go through during,
Starting point is 00:59:29 you know, you know, in season? Like, shit, nothing. Cause all I got to do is, you know, just be prepared for work. Cause everything else outside of that is something that goes on year round for me. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and when I had the surgery, you know, I had, I had back to back hip replacement surgeries. And so now I got to focus, you know, hey, you got to get you got to get back on your feet ASAP and to make sure that you're still able to do what you need to do. Because I'm not an excuse guy. Hey, you do what you I got responsibilities. I don't do this. And I think my grandmother, my grandfather, that's how they raised me. We don't make excuses. You get the job done. And then you don't complain about that
Starting point is 01:00:07 you had to do it. And so for me, that's what I've always done. I've always, you know, and I have a special fondness to people that have such responsibility and do it every day with a smile on their face. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Third, I woke asked Ocho and Shannon, what are your thoughts on Vontaze Burfik? How he played the game and the ending of his career. And also, Ocho, can you tell us about the character behind the closed doors and who he was as a person? I was gone
Starting point is 01:00:39 when Vontaze got into the league, so I was long gone. So all I can tell you from what I saw from a distance, you can explain to him because you were on the roster when he got there. No, no, no. I was gone too. Were you?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah, Vontaze is the A.J. Green, Andy Dalton era. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Listen, but he's supposed to have been playing during your era. Vontaze Burfield was perfect for your era. Right. More so the era I played in where you could actually play like that.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Football. Originally, when you think about football, you think about middle linebackers and playing no games when it came to playing the game of football. That's who Vontaze Burford was. It wasn't accepted, obviously, once the rules came into play and protecting players and head injuries and CT and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:31 But I like him. I like the way he played the game. Barnboy asked me, your knee was down at the one-yard line on 11-16-03 against the Chargers. How many touchdowns do you think would have been overturned if today's replay was in effect when you played? They had replay when I played.
Starting point is 01:01:52 The Chargers could have challenged it and said it wasn't a touchdown. I mean, I don't know what you want me to do. I was not supposed to jump up to the official. Hey, man, you know I'm on the one-yard line. There ain't no touchdown. Mark me down at the one. If they didn't think it was a touchdown,
Starting point is 01:02:08 they could have challenged it. Right. So I, look, I know when I say I played in the 90s, but there was replay. I don't know why it wasn't. Y'all make it seem like I played with a black and white TV. Like they would film it on the sideline like this. Oh, Joe, what the hell?
Starting point is 01:02:33 I mean, I understand. I mean, I understand I'm 55, but I did play, I would be considered a modern day player. Any player that happened after the common draft, which I think is like 1966, is considered aday player. Any player that happened after the Common Draft, which I think is like 1966, is considered a modern player. So I think they would consider me a modern player. Uncle Ocho, Jared asks, Uncle Ocho, love the show.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Uncle, do you think you could do 225 for more refs than Ocho could do 185? Do you think you could do 225 on the bench for more refs than Ocho could do 225 on the bench for more reps than Ocho could do 185 why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 225 as well what is he trying to say
Starting point is 01:03:15 but you're only going to do it for one rep so he's trying to give you an advantage 225 I could do 225 27 times what are you talking about Ocho I tell you what I'd be willing to do I put up a million dollars so you can't do a 225? I could do 225 27 times. What are you talking about? Ocho, I tell you what I'd be willing to do. I put up a million dollars so you can't do 25 to do 27. Oh, you going to run me my money?
Starting point is 01:03:31 You going to run me my money? No chance. This is what people fail to do. People always have an eye test. People always use the visual. Listen to me. Stay with me now, baby. People always use the visual
Starting point is 01:03:42 and look at something and say... You got a t-shirt on up under that? Because his frame is small. You got a t-shirt... He shouldn't be able to do this. You got a t-shirt on up under that? Yeah. Take that off.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Let me show the people. Yeah, I know. Hey, y'all ladies don't be looking at me now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let me come up out this thing. Let me come up out this thing. Yeah, you see that?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Look at that. I do. Look at that. I do. I just look like this. I just look like this. I have a small frame, but I'm strong. You ain't doing no 225, no 27.
Starting point is 01:04:23 How you going to tell me that I've done it? I've done 225, 27 times. No. I tell you what we can do. We can pull up what you did in the combine. What the combine ain't got nothing to do with it. You talking about right now. First of all, this is how I know
Starting point is 01:04:39 you can't do 227. Because when you went to the combine, that was your... Hold on. I didn't even lift. Let me finish. Let me finish. The combine was when you're on the job interview. You're going to be at your absolute best. You're going to be at your fastest.
Starting point is 01:04:55 You're going to be at your best. Because that's the job interview. You don't even lift like that anymore. I'm not so sure you can do 225 five times. I didn't even lift weights at the combine. All I needed to do was run my 40 and run routes. Once they saw my routes, that was it. That sealed the deal.
Starting point is 01:05:14 That's how I know you can't do 225, 27 reps. I'm talking about now. I'm talking about now. Now, if you said you do 185 like 10 times, I said, Ocho, you might get that. I'm very strong despite my frame. I am extremely strong. So, if you
Starting point is 01:05:30 want to put that million dollars, make sure you stand on business by that million dollars too. Bill. I'm going to do a video when I get back to Miami tomorrow. No, you're not doing no video. I'm going to be there. Bring your man, you're with you. I don't need no video. I need to be there. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. Wait, wait. No. What I'm bringing here? Huh? I'm going to video it so you can see. I don't need no video. I need to be there. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. Wait, wait. No, no.
Starting point is 01:05:45 What I'm bringing here? Huh? I'm going to video it so you can see. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. I'm going to be right there in your presence.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I'm going to bring a million dollar cash. You bring yours. We put it right there. Wait, what I'm taking a million out for? Because you're going to put you bet me a million.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Nah, you said you bet. You bet the money. You bet the money. Put up. I'm putting up a million. You put up a million. So I'm walking away with a million. Nah, you said you bet the money. You bet the money. Put up. I'm putting up a million. You put up a million. So I'm walking away with two million. You're walking away with two million.
Starting point is 01:06:11 You know what? I'm a million for me and a million for Real. You know, we appreciate that. Happy holidays. Yeah. I tell Real to put up a million, too, because I got to cover her, too. So it's two million. I like that.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah, I like that, too. It's cold in Philly, man. I like that. Yeah, I like that too. It's cold in Philly, man. Hey, with $2 million, I might find me somebody then, Ocho. You already got somebody. She done donated you $2,000. Hey, well, guess what? Her friend about to donate me a million.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Her friend at the hub about to donate me $2 million. So I'm about to have $2,000,000. afraid of the hub about to go make me two million. So I'm about to have two million, two thousand. Hey, it's cold. It's cold. Hey, I could turn the heat on in the room. That doesn't count. That don't count against my arm. No.
Starting point is 01:06:59 My arm. What you call it? What they take your credit card for at the front desk? Room chart incidentals? No. The heat don't count for that, huh? No. No, you have to order room service. Oh, okay, okay. Room service or internet.
Starting point is 01:07:17 It's 40 degrees. That's why I got the jacket on here. But I didn't want to turn the heat on because I thought it charged my credit card. No. No. It won't charge your credit card. Okay, let me turn the heat on then so I can take the damn jacket off. Make sure you click that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button.
Starting point is 01:07:32 We're at 404,000. Have we hit 405 yet? 404 what? Yeah. We're 25 subscribers away from 405,000. Guys, you don't know how much ojo and i really appreciate this because you've gotten us grown a lot faster than we even expected we expected to be excuse me we expect how to expect to hit the numbers that we are now somewhere around march april maybe even june but to be able to do this in about two months' time,
Starting point is 01:08:06 we greatly appreciate that. It lets us know that we're heading in the right direction. But we still, wherever you listen to Nightcap at, wherever you watch us, leave your reviews. Let us know what you think. Would you like us to talk more about something else? Would you like us not to do this? Would you like us not to do that?
Starting point is 01:08:26 Because at the end of the day, it's about, yeah, we try to come up with topics and obviously the sports speak for themselves. The games speak for themselves. We're going to offer you our analysis of what we thought about the game. But when you start going off topic of sports, it's
Starting point is 01:08:41 kind of like what you guys want to hear. What would you like for us to talk about what would you like to hear our opinions on and so how similar are our opinions to yours and where do we differ you agree with Ocho you agree with me you agree with both of us maybe there's a combination I get what Ocho said but I kind of agree with Shannon I I kind of get what Shannon was saying but I kind of agree with Ocho but that's what this that's this is about. This is about what you would like for us to talk about. How would you like for us to go about this? So make sure you click that like button and hit that subscribe button.
Starting point is 01:09:14 So anytime that Unc and Ocho go live, you'll get a notification to know we're about to do this. We've also pinned Che by La Portia at the top of the link with the holidays right around the corner. We got Christmas. We got New Year. And I know we got some birthdays. So make sure you go get yourself one for someone special, a bottle of Shea by LaPortier. Ocho, what else you got to talk about? We got to get ready.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Ooh, man, it's 1 o'clock. Yeah, I don't know. I got inside the NFL tomorrow morning. What you got, first take tomorrow? I got first take tomorrow. I got first take. Okay. I'm trying to think what else.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And I got a six-hour flight back to L.A. Wait, where you at? I'm in NYC. Oh, you right down... We could have did the show from the same room. I'm in Jersey. Man, I had a busy day today, Ocho. I did my podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I did Club Shea Shea. I shot somebody today up here. Who you had? Oh, you can't say who it was? It's a secret. But I think it's going to be a great one. I got a couple coming out over the next month. It's going to blow some people away because these people hadn't done an interview in a very long time. And they shared some stories.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I'm not so sure anybody's ever heard. So I'm anxious to hear how people receive the guys that I'm not so sure anybody's ever heard. So I'm anxious to hear, I'm anxious to hear how the, how people receive the guys that I'm having on. And I still got, I'm still, I'm still shooting.
Starting point is 01:10:32 But like I said, I got three or four, three or four people that people are going to be surprised like, hey, you on Club Shea Shea? I'm doing,
Starting point is 01:10:39 yeah, you know, hey. Like that. Yeah, man. I'll be trying to get that thing in. So,
Starting point is 01:10:50 thank you for joining another episode of Club,ae Shae of Nightcap with Uncle Ocho. I'm your favorite sports uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. He's so proud. He's so happy his team went on the road without Joey B and got a hard-fought victory in overtime 34-31. Jake Browning was really, really good tonight, 32-37, 354 and a touchdown. Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury. We don't know the extent or if he will, but it looks like he might miss some time, Ocho,
Starting point is 01:11:23 which will be very, very costly for the Jag because they have the lead in the AFC South, but the Texans are, excuse me, right on their heels. And when the way CJ Stroud is playing and the way D'Amico Ryan's have them playing as a team, I would not be surprised if Trevor Lawrence is out for any significant period of time. If the Houston Texans don't, doesn't overtake them and end up winning that division, which would be a huge accomplishment,
Starting point is 01:11:44 which now D'Amico Ryan must be a unanimous coach of the year and C.J. Stroud even though Puka Nakua is having an unbelievable season but 20-5 with the numbers that he's putting up and I think C.J. might be in top five
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Starting point is 01:12:53 We'll see you on Thursday. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain,
Starting point is 01:13:20 this is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. Small but important ways. From tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastin.
Starting point is 01:13:50 And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Su, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
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