Nightcap - Nightcap Best of Boxing Guests Part 2: What's next for Shakur Stevenson? + Lamon Roach Jr. feels ROBBED

Episode Date: July 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by some of the biggest names in boxing! Shakur Stevenson CALLS out Gervonta Davis and Lamon Roach Jr. wants to run it back with Tank ASAP 0:00 - What's next for Shakur Stevenson? 11:55 - Shakur's Top 5 boxers of all time 21:25 - Lamon Roach Jr. joins the show 30:30 - When's the rematch for Roach Jr. vs Davis 39:25 - Roach Jr. on taking time off after fights (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, definitely. And speaking of- Go ahead, Ocho, go ahead. What you wanna be known for, I mean, be known for, and that last fight being an indication that you're well on your way

But what's next who's next if you had three fights lined up in no particular order We can continue to feel that dream and legacy of being one of the best lightweights at 135 ever Who are the next who are the next three that you would like to fight and I'm not saying call anybody out I'm just saying in general that you know that will continue to help build that legacy. Call the answer out Shakur. No, don't do it, no, don't do it. I'll take Tate, Lamont, lightweight, lightweight.

I like Andy Crews, I like Andy Crews. I'm a competitor. So I like the best fights and the best most competitive fights So I think them guys is more so than three most competitive guys. I think tank is the money fight I think that's the you know, not only will that that help submit your legacy at the lightweight division I think that's the fight your court that's gonna pay you the most money Mm-hmm He's a guy that everybody been talking about for a long time that's gonna pay you the most money.

He's the guy that everybody been talking about for a long time. So I can't wait. Knockout power, it's gonna be his power versus your skill. You know what's crazy about that? This is no cap, no cap. You know, a lot of guys, they like, oh, he did that against the payday because the payday is not a big puncher.

I would rather fight a power puncher any day and fight that kind of body. Tell us, tell us why. Because after the fight, my body was done. Like I done been in there with power punchers to where it's like, you know, you got to think and get out the way and don't let them land that big shot. But when you find a value puncher, he punching on your arms, your body. It's just very much like a fight, a big ass fight to where it's like, after the fight, you need massages. It's a big fight so I would rather fight them guys any day. Yeah, it's so funny. I like the three names that you did call out about fighting. I think Tank is

the money fight, but the fight that would interest me the most based on skill set, you know, styles make fights. The one I think would be the best chess match, you know, from round to round and both of you, you know, it would be brother Roach, brother Roach. I think to me, for those of us that are not casual boxing fans and actually enjoy the sweet science, I would love to watch that a fight with you and Roach develop round by round and just, just, just the thinking game and the chess match that it would be based on your skill sets. But I would love that fight too. and just the thinking game and the chess match that it would be based on y'all skillsets. But. I would love that fight too.

I think that's one of the fights to make. I think that Lamont is very underrated. I'm glad that you're talking it out about his skillset because a lot of people don't realize how good he really is at home. You know, I appreciate Lamont too. He's one of the guys who came and helped me in one of my biggest fights of my career. When I feel Oscar Vow did this, I made Lamont too. He's one of the guys who came and helped me in one of my biggest fights of my career

When I asked about days, I made Lamont roast my man's farm partner and he kind of got ready for that fight So, um, you know, I'm real cool with him. I would love to fight him You know, but a lot of people think that Lamont actually beat tank in that fight. What do you think? I Do I think Lamont won? I think Lamont won 75 84 Even without the... Without the knockdown? Yeah, without the knockdown that shouldn't be called. Shakur, when you look and you look, you're in that division of 135 and as I mentioned, there've been some great 135ers, Roberto De Rance, Wepe Whitaker, like in Henry Armstrong and there been some great so when do did you study any of those?

Shavez senior do you study any of those guys? Do you like do you understand like when you say I want to be one of the all-time greats and those guys had? Those guys had 90 a hundred fights. You're probably not gonna get to a hundred fights You're probably hoping to get to like 40 But do you understand that when you say I want to be an all-time great in this division some of the all-time greats that have been in that division it's very hard it's a very hard thing to do you gotta pay homage to the great Roberto Durand or the great Penel Street Pea Winca

even Floyd when he had his 135 run it was a hell of a 135 run so Floyd was four boy people though at that weight people don't realize four had knockout power at them lighter weight at 135 140 go look at him against Gotti go look at him and those are some of those guys he was what for sure i just feel like, man, I'm a competitor, bro. So it's like, I appreciate them guys. I pay homage to them guys, but I'm not going away anytime soon. So in that weight class, I'm going to be here and people got to come through me. So now you got all these young fighters, all these new fighters that's coming around.

I'm the man in the division, bro. And like, you're not taking nothing from me, bro. I've been here for too long. I've been doing this since five years old, bro. I'm going to be the man and I'm coming to get my spot. I like it. Hey, not as good as you gotten from a skill set standpoint, obviously being able to fight in the pocket,

being able to fight mid range, obviously being at distance, that's pretty easy for you to be able to hit somebody at will. How do you continue to improve on your skill set? And are there any boxes that you watch right now that you enjoy and kind of steal stuff from them and add it to your game? Or are you too far into the game to do that? Well, no, you is never too far in the game to evolve and learn, bro. Okay. You always got to be able to learn, but like what you just said is how you kind of get better.

You got guys out here that's also evolving the game and getting better. Like guys like Uthik and Bevol. Yeah. I'm sitting back and I'm watching these guys and trying to steal the little shit that they doing so I think that's how you get better. You just got to keep watching and learning from people. Also, keep watching yourself. I think studying yourself is one of the underrated things when it comes to the sport of boxing.

I think that's what got my highest level studying. Where I went wrong. Going back to watch my sparring and watch my fight. When I watch my fight, I see a hundred things that that I did wrong even though the public felt like I did good But I mean I saw a hundred different things that I can't wait to get back in the gym and work on so That's my main Goal and I'm gonna keep you all jacquard Do you think that as you start to get a little older you start to get a little a little more old man

Wait, you train a little harder and you know, you say I walk around it, you know to get a little more old man weight, you train a little harder. And you say, I walk around at probably 138. And then you go to the 140s. Because do you feel you might have to move up in weight to get that bigger payday? I know Turkey, Alan Sheik, and Dana White are doing a great job. They're trying to, hey, we want the big fight. We don't want nobody ducking nobody. You got a belt, he got a belt. Get in there and you take his belt or he take your belt.

Do you feel you might have to move up once you fight a tank or you fight a Lamont? Do you feel you might have to move up to get these even bigger paydays? I will move up in certain guys. Like I'm not fighting guys that are super bigger than me, but like if it's a guy like Tia Fimo, who's closer to the 140 weight class and the size range, I would fight these guys.

I don't fight the guys on that 140. It's just, I'm just not getting in the ring with people that's way bigger than me. They might weigh 140 at the top of weight, but they're 155, 160 at the night of the fight, huh? A lot of these guys, that's exactly what they do. They wanna be 165, come fight night, and I'm gonna match them. Right. I'm just like, that shit just don't make sense.

It doesn't, and when you look at it, like you said about Floyd, I believe, and a lot of, not to take it, and Floyd had a supreme skill level, but Floyd fought at 147 for the large part of his career, then he ended up going up to 154 to take Oscar's belt. But Floyd walked around at 150, 151. So it wasn't nothing for him to like run a couple of miles

in two weeks and Floyd's at 147. He wasn't a big man. He wasn't 165, 170, trying to drop down to 147, taxing himself. Because he was such a smaller man, he lost nothing. Yeah. You know what I respect about him though? When he fought them guys, he didn't put no rehydration clauses on them. He kind of allowed guys to feel comfortable enough to fight him at whatever weight class.

Like, we watched Canelo vs Floyd, Canelo was way bigger than Floyd. Yeah, he was huge. But at the end of the day, skills do pay the bill. So I respect Floyd for a lot of shit that he did in the sport of boxing. The funny thing about it, especially when you talk about the rehydration clause, and Floyd understood that, okay, I'm not going to put one in for Canelo, but I understand I'm going to be able to outbox him, allow him, you know, rehydrate, put that water way back on because you're going to be that much slower, which is why he was able

to counter and hit Canelo at will. Obviously people like to say, oh, he wasn't as polished, he isn't the same Canelo he is now. And listen, if they were to fight later on, like, okay, no disrespect, fight now, it would be the same thing. Skill is big. Before a fight, but no, he's so much bigger.

He's fighting at 168. I, I, he might be too big right now. Yeah, but see, here's the thing, Ocho, if he fight at 168, he taking his ass in the ring at 185, 190. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm just saying from a skill standpoint. I understand coming behind it. And the fact that I just mentioned Canelo, I want to know what you think about our brother

Bud Crawford and Canelo, that fight happened in September. What you think about that? Well, the bad motherfucker, man. I think it's going to be hard for anybody to beat Bud Crawford when Bud Crawford is focused on his job. I think he's one of the greatest fighters that I have ever witnessed in my life and I've seen him in the gym I've seen him come fight night. This dude is just different. He's just he's not a normal boxer. Bud a dog for real.

Bud got a couple screws loose. Yeah, for sure. I done seen his screws definitely get loose. They can be bugging. That would be bugging. Hey, Ocho, you see the interview, man. Bud, and I said, hey, hey. I said, man, look here, man.

I mess around and mess your shoulders up. People gonna be mad at me. Talk about I messed the Codillo bud Crawford fight up bad Hey Shakur I had it cuz he think he teach about him and I rushed him And so I got him because you know, hey, I can't let that man have no distance Have me lumped up like uh, uh, Tommy Hearns had martin So I rushed to be closed to distance, old chump. Yeah. Oh man, that's funny.

So what's next for you, Shakur? What's next? You gonna take, you know, a couple of, you got another fight before the end of the year out? Nah, I'm gonna take some time off. You know, with that fight, a lot of people don't know this, but I wanted that fight to be under the bud and Canelo undercard because I hurt my hands.

My last fight before that, they kind of forced the fight on me and I just accepted whatever they forced at that time. But I just want to take a break for the rest of the year and come back fresh early next year. Allow my hands to recover and rest up. Check out Behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.

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Let me ask you this. Give me your top five boxers of all time. It doesn't matter, weight, class. I mean, if you want to be specific to class, lightweight, super lightweight, welter, middle, super middle, whatever you want, junior middleweight, you know, whatever. Give me your top five boxers.

Number one, me. Okay. Number two, Floyd. Okay. Number three, Parnell. Okay. Sweet Pea. Okay. Sweet pea. Four, Andre Ward.

Okay. Number five, Bud Crawford. The first one, you like defensive fighters, huh? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That's the goal, you know. You gotta last in this sport. You know, guys going to the hospital

and they got brain damage after the fight and they talking for years to come. So I like the guys that's not talking for me. I like the guys that can speak properly to you guys, talk to you guys regularly. Hey, speaking of this, I'm glad Andre Ward is in your top five, right? You know, I've been trying to fight Andre

for a little minute. You know, you think you can make that happen, speed up the expedite, the process of us getting in the ring? Yeah, I could definitely make that happen, but I don't know if you want to do that. You don't. I do. That's what you want to do, man.

I do. Hey, Shakur, you my dog, right? I done been in the gym with you. You my dog, too. That's why I know you. Hey, listen, I know what you can do, and I've been watching you for a very long time and honestly, no disrespect. I love Andre, but I beat his ass.

Man, come on. You know that's Andre Ward, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know, I know. That man beat you right now, Ocho. He ain't been in the gym. He probably ain't been in the gym in years. He tear your ass up right now.

I just farted like last, what? Like a couple months ago, I just farted. Let him know I'm ready, man. Whatever you want to do. Hey, we can go, we can go four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, last, what? Like a couple months ago, I just farted. Let him know, I'm ready, man.

Whatever you want to do. Hey, we can go, we can go four rounds, six rounds. I mean, whatever you want to do. I make it light on yourself. Cause I mean, shoot. Well, I hope you're using 16 ounce gloves. Yeah, cause I'm, yeah. We can use 20s.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You need some pillows. Cause he gonna lump your ass up with them 10 ounce gloves. And listen, I got DBS like Shakur, you tripping man. I'm sure to roll everything. Hey Shakur, hey, get them training gloves. Get them winning training gloves, 16, 20 ounces.

Cause anything up in 10 ounces, man, let me tear your ass up. Yeah. With some Everlast or some Reyes gloves, Grant? Oh man, you done. I know, no. He punch a lot harder than you think, man. Oh yeah, I know, I know.

I already know. Listen, I done seen you spar before we had the fight. I forgot who it was. I went to one of the sparring sessions. Oh, I know. I didn't been around. I didn't been around. Look at this man.

Don't worry about it. Hey, Ocho, you keep talking. Then me and you might have to do this. You know what I'm saying Ocho? I don't wanna have to do my part in like this, but you know what I'm saying. I might have to do something bad to it. Listen, if you don't send me my awards,

I'm gonna have to put a hand in. I don't wanna hurt you. I don't wanna hurt you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I got Chad versus you, man. I got Chad versus you, man. I got Chad versus you, man. Ochoa, I told Ochoa, I told Ochoa he don't give me my, he don't send me my 5200.

I thought, I only owe you 5200. So you owe me 5900. I'ma see your money when you send me my rewards. Nah, nah, nah, but I tell you what, I'ma beat it at you. I'ma beat it at you. You won't give me my money. I'ma do you like, I'ma do you like Stuart D. Brian. Where's my money?

Where it's from? I seen those. That's the club Shay-Shay Everlast. I'm the blood of Budwears. Yeah, that's exactly, yes. Bud Shay Shay Everlast. I'm the blood of blood wear. Yeah, that's exactly, yes. Blood wear Everlast. For sure. Yeah, but you don't have blood.

What type of gloves you wear, Shakur? I wear rifle. You wear who? Rifle. Rifle. Yeah, rifle. I ain't never heard of them. Does anybody wear Reyes anymore? I think it was Pacquiao maybe. Pacquiao may have worn them his last fight. Yeah, because I think, you know, I think, you know, obviously Everlast, Grant, winning Reyes,

and you mentioned rifle. I've never heard of that. I've never heard of those gloves before. But Ocho, these eight ounces, these right here, cut. It don't matter. It's just a matter of how you're going to put it on. And then you're going to put it on. And then you're going to put it on.

And then you're going to put it on. And then you're going to put it on. And then you're going to put it on. a Reyes and you mentioned rifle. I've never heard of that. I've never heard of those gloves before. But Ocho, these eight ounces, these right here cut. It don't matter. It, listen, they cut for an object that's not moving. It's different when there's an object in front of you that's moving. Max. Yeah, Ocho.

The King. Hey. I'm gonna stick that jam out there. You know what? I'm gonna do you just how. I'm gonna do you how Tommy Herring did Marty. I tell you what, Ocho, I box you for the gloves. If you beat me, you get my gloves.

I don't want them gloves. I don't want them gloves. I just want my gloves. I just want my gloves. You gotta snap that thing out there like, see, some people use that jab as a finder. They ain't trying to do no damage. They just trying to see, okay,

how far did I can throw this right? But see, I'm trying to snap that thing, bam Lenny Lewis. No Lenny Lewis had a nice jam Larry Holmes had a tremendous job What I? Want to see your job. Let me see your job. Oh you was Yeah, I'm quit with that thing. I quit with that thing, Shakur. Hey, hey, I'm finna parry that and come right back with something, man. Oh, I know.

Hey, I done saw you. I done saw you, Ocho. Your reflexes ain't as fancy as you think now. Oh, oh no. That's a thing. Da da da da da da da da da da. See, this is the funny thing. If everybody wanna go back to when I fought my young bull,

Brian Maxwell in the ring, that's different. Now you gotta understand, I done been in the ring now five years after that. So I look nothing like that now. That's why I'm trying to be. Hey Shakur, you can take K-U-T-A. Sparring is different than actually fighting. If you got in a fight, it's just like track and field. You can practice tell you, hey, sparring is different than actually fighting. If you got to fight, it's just like track and field.

You can practice all you want to, but you got to get races under your belt. You got to get in the ring. You got to get rounds and, and ting, not all that speed bag and all that myths and stuff now you ain't did that. I know, I know one thing. I got two people on my hit list. Oh James Harrison James Harrison, I'm beat his ass Andre warf and to get his work and anybody else that won't smoke after that matter of fact Shakur you could get it

Damn, you wanna start back? No, I ain't gonna lie. I already told you this last time. I saw you don't do it He's doing to it. No Don't do it to you. So get to it. No, don't do it to you. So get my 5900 out of it I'm telling you this thing. Hey whenever you hey whenever you want to get back in the gym, you let me know Huh? I mean you're not you're gonna give me I can't go past eight. I can give you I give you a strong eight Four minutes four minute around 30 second rest I'm betting you ain't making it eight rounds. I bet he ain't either.

Eight four minute rounds with 30 second rest? You ain't got that kind of cardio bro, not in no 40s, not in no 40s. That's how I've been training the past four years. How you gonna tell me what I'm gonna do? You ain't gonna. With boots, with boots. Hold on.

I took my affiliate with boots. That's what we had to do. That's what both of you had me doing. Thanks for having me eight full minute rounds. No, I only got four win. I only did four. Exactly, that's why I'm trying to tell you this today. Ain't no way you gonna eight with me, I'm telling you.

Get it. Get my $5,900 out of his ass too, just cool why you had it. You think shit's sweet, huh? I know you can't go ape with me, bro. That shit's deep. Hey, don't hit him in his face, because I need his eyes.

I need him to be able to read the prompter. But just tear his body up. I'm gonna tell you, I'm not gonna hit him in the face. I'm gonna stretch his body. That's what I do, make him pee on himself. Hey, I'm gonna be tucked in. I'm ready for all of that. Hey, I'm gonna be tucked in. I'm ready for all of that, man. I'm gonna be tucked in.

Okay, you tuck, go to the side. I'm going right to the side. That's what I like to see. Right to the side. That's what I like to see, Chacour. That's what I'm talking about. Ultra gonna have the pins on under his trunks. Hey.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Oh man, hey, but all jokes aside, man, you put on an effing boxing clinic, man. That was amazing. I'm going to tell you, congratulations on that, man. They're shutting up all these doubters and all of the haters.

Now they're going to find something else to come up with. They're going to find something else to come up with, and you're probably going to answer those questions too, man. I just want to tell you, congratulations on one hell of a goddamn fight in career so far. I appreciate y'all. I appreciate those questions too, man. I just wanna tell you, congratulations on one hell of a goddamn fight in career so far. I appreciate y'all, I appreciate y'all, man. Shacor, thanks for your time, man. Congratulations, enjoy the rest of the year off.

Hey, we'll see you early, I guess early in 2026, and come back and join us when you got some time, bro. Appreciate you. I appreciate you, too. All right, bro, have a good one. I love. Check out Behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joining us now, fought to a majority draw Saturday night. It doesn't look like he's too pleased with that. There are a lot of people on social media that actually thought he won that fight. Joining us, Lamont Rose Jr. Lamont Rose Jr. Lamont, how you doing, bro? What's up, man? I'm good, man.

Thanks for having me. I feel real good. No, thanks for joining us. Take us through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move up five pounds, you're 130-factor, you move up. And you're feeling, I mean, everybody's that man, they know he got no chance.

Tank told you a couple of days earlier, hey, you not going to distance, y'all shake, a free little 250, whatever the case may be. You go into that fight, you know Tank's a slow starter, builds up as the fight progresses, know he's trying to land, hook to the body, come up, talk with him. What was your process?

What were you going into that fight? How did you want to fight? And did the fight turn out the way you thought it would? Well, honestly, yeah, the fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly. We're familiar with them. We've been familiar with them. We just knew it was a matter of time for everything to fall into place. And back to the whole everybody not giving me a shot saying I'm going to get knocked out and all this and all that. I know what I'm capable of. I know what I could do. In a nutshell, they had me totally messed up. Especially

when he bet me saying he was going to stop me. What do I do? I told him himself, I said, you tripping. I said, I don't know what got into your head these last couple of minutes, few days, whatever the case, you tripping. You know you're not going to do that. I don't even know why. I told him, I said, I know you know you're not going to do that. Cut it out. Yeah.

Hey, listen, when you talk about you're very familiar with them, and I understand you and your team, you went into the fight with a game plan. Is it familiarity? The fact that you guys probably trained together in the past, or you've been in camp together in the past, you sparred together. Is that why you were so familiar in whatever game plan your team did have and were able to execute? Is that why it went so well? I mean, yeah, it's one of the many reasons why it went so well. Even though we were kids, some of them traits, characteristics, and just ways of a man grew with him.

So, some of the dirty tactics, I knew that he'd revert to that when that pressure built up. When somebody that was there wasn't scared of him. When somebody was there that was there to return fire. And he ain't been in the ring. His professional career, he hasn't been in the ring with something like that or something like the kind of what I got. Right.

So, what I thought, obviously, watching the fight and when I look at all his take fights, most of the time, obviously, he starts slow. And then round five, six, he starts to pick it up a little bit. And by the time as he's picking it up, normally his opponent is deteriorating. The condition ain't where it's supposed to be, but I'm looking at you.

They get to round six and seven, and he coming forward, and you not even moving. So at that point, y'all mid-range, and you sitting in the pocket, and most of the time, when not even movement. So at that point, y'all mid range, you sitting in the pocket. And most of the time when he hits somebody, they retreat. But you get, you took one to give one. I'm like, what he boys, he boys going at it. I'm like, so did the power not affect you in any way

where you didn't really care? Where you just sat in the pocket with him in exchange? Because most of the time, I mean, you got to be cautious. You got to be cautious because when throwing punches, you got a chance to get hit when you let him go. Did you not care at all or did you feel his power early and really one word about it? So it wasn't that I wasn't caring. I was cautious.

Like you said, I was cautious, but the defense is there and the confidence was through the roof. Right. And I got a chin. You can keep a spade to spade. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I see why he knocked people out.

Yeah. I'm not going to say the power is overrated, but I've been in there with guys who can punch. I mean, with guys who can punch, so it was nothing new to me. I've been in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with guys who can punch, so it's like, it's nothing, it was nothing new to me. I've been in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with junior middleweight champions. I mean, like, as they were champion in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I was confident in what I could do defensively and if I get hit, I know, I know I was going to give it right back. So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, I get excited about boxing. I don't mean to take over. Listen, hey, young boy, in the ninth round, Gervonta took a knee. Obviously there's some controversy behind that. It wasn't ruled a knockdown by the referee.

I've never seen that ever. And in my years of watching boxing, and enjoying the sport of combat sports in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the sport of combat sports in general. Did that moment impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight? I'm going to say no and let me tell you why. The simple fact that he took the knee is, it was really a boost because it's like, all right, what we doing is working.

We know that he looking for something, yeah. Looking for some. It should have been a knockdown one. So that's why I'm yelling at the referee like, keep counting. Like you tripping. Keep counting. That's a knockdown. Because if you didn't notice, he started to count. He started to count. He did. And then he stopped.

He stopped. OK. So when we resume the action, I'm like, what you doing? Keep counting. Like, you can't do that. So and then it wasn't even registering or processing through my mind the other rules to the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for having his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round.

Or right then he can't do that. or having his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round. Or- Wipe, wipe- Yeah, you can't come to his mat. You can't do that. Or he can't turn his back on, like, during the fight. That's cause for, that's the wave at all. He took a knee and then turned around and went to the corner. Bradford usually turn, stop the fight.

Oh, I ain't know that. Yeah. I'm watching you. A lot of times when people hit tank, like Ocho was saying, they retreat. I ain't know that. I'm watching you a lot of times when people hit tank like Ocho was saying they retreat but it seemed like you had a strategy like if he hit me I'm gonna hit his ass back just as hard as many times as he hit me and I don't think he expected you to return the kind of fire that you returned because you wobbled him a couple of times and I'm not so sure that I've seen tank wobble like when you caught him a couple of times and you was getting through the guard.

I mean, hey, normally a southpaw fighter, that lead right is a home run right down at his right down Broad Street. And you kept touching him with it. For sure. It was one of the many things that we trained for. Obviously he happy go lucky with his left and he'd been working for his whole career. He'd been knocking these dudes out. So we've been training, we've been sitting on the left, working on countering, working

on being able to block and come back. We had some pretty fast guys and then we had some pretty strong guys that I had to switch rounds with every spawn test. you know, every sponsor. So, you know, we was ready, we was prepared. And, um, like you said, them dudes wasn't really, really cracking him back. And I was really throwing that fire at him. And the accuracy is was really probably pissed them all too. And the fact that I was busy is like, all right, this ain't stopping. Yeah. I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping the pace up.

Like Ocho said, he's a guy that likes to start slow. So he has some energy reserve. So when he comes out from five through 12, he's like, I got a lot left. I know, I ain't really spent no gas. Hey, I just been coasting. I've been on electric mode. Now I got this fire. I got this gas in the tank.

I'm finna unleash. But it meant you met fire with fire. And I've heard Floyd say that like, when he went into a fight, he never watched tape on the guy that he was fighting. He left that up to his corner to watch the fight and then tell him instructions. He would take all that information

and then once he got into the ring, blah, blah, blah. Do you watch fight? When you going against a fighter? Do you watch them or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give you an instruction to what you should do I don't watch them a lot I'm just so I just so happen to be a boxing fan that the fact that I do watch him fight You know saying like I like He's a he's just somebody to watch he's expect to create knockout artist, skilled guy, like one of the one of the better

pound for pound fighters. I like watching good fights. So I do know some of his tendencies, but to study him. Now, really, I left it up to my dad. But one time, one day, like one day in camp, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back to back. OK. Hey, listen, tank tank, his publicly expressed interest, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back to back. Okay. Hey, listen, Tank, Tank has publicly expressed interest, obviously in a rematch.

You want a rematch as well. Are you open to immediate rematch? Or do you have a, you don't need a tune up, but do you have a tune up fight just to keep yourself going? Or do y'all run it right back? Immediate, immediate. Just to let y'all all know like in my contract immediate rematch was signed.

I signed for the immediate rematch when I signed for the first fight just in case he lost or just in case it was a draw. So, they put that clause in there, they put the rematch clause in there. So, I already signed the rematch clause. Okay, so when you got a rematch clause how long we taking?

How long is the break before you start training again? Is it six months from now? It's up to the A side. It's up to the A side and when they want to fight. So I'm thinking it's going to be soon. I'm hoping it's going to be soon. Let's say that. I'm saying from a boxing standpoint as a boxer, what is soon to you? I mean, when you say soon to me, I'm thinking a month. I know that's not gonna happen. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July.

I'm thinking July for sure. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July for sure. Okay. But if I'm not mistaken, Lamont, I think I read something that he reached out to Lomachenko's side and see if they were interested. Did you read that also?

Did you see that? But you can't believe everything you see did you read that also? You can't you gotta you can't believe everything you see and if it is You know that'd be funny, but I'm pretty sure that we match happens and I'm pretty sure that's the next fight for both of us Well, let me ask you this would you be interested? Go ahead. I'm just would you be interested in fighting Lomo or to your female Lopez or me? Oh, hold up, Chad. Oh, no, Chad Would you be interested in fighting Lomo or Tiofimo Lopez? Of course. Or me? Uh oh, hold up Chad, hold up Chad. How about- Hey, put Pauls on it, LeBot.

Put Pauls on it. Hey Chad, I mean, hey, if I don't know if you see me fight Saturday, I really do this. Yeah. Hey, I would do, I would do. Yeah. Listen, I've been studying you for years, you hear me? Uh oh. Okay.

I can listen. Listen, I don't have the time, but I could tell you tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay. So we was getting there and spa right now, I can tell you what you're gonna do by looking at your feet. You when you when you when you got your hand down by your hip already, and you step forward, you're gonna faint. No it ain't no more keys. But listen, I've been studying you, I know you. So if you want to spy at any point, if you get ready for the next fight.

I think I've seen you work your southpaw, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got hands.

He got no power though. He got no power? He got pillars. He got pillars at the end of his arm. He ain't got no power Lamont. Lamont, listen. They- Throwing up my cake blows.

No, no, no. Lamont, where I'm from, they call me hell of hands. Yeah, they call me hell of hands. But listen, I reflected on your performance, right? In that fight, bro, your game plan was phenomenal. Everything you did, you executed from round one all the way to 12. After you have a fight like that and you put on a show like that, what aspects,

I mean, like, how do you improve off of that? Because if you would have grade your performance that night, you get an A plus. So what do you go back and work on after putting on a goddamn show like that? Man, just going on. See my thing is I always want to get better all the time. No matter if I do have a good performance or not. I just go back and I watch the tape and see what he do. Obviously if whatever he come with the next one that we just got to still capitalize.

We're going to add to what works. If it ain't broke don't fix it. But we're going to just add to it. We're going to build, we're going to build, we're going to build. Might try to pick it up so we can see if we can get that star vigil now. You know what I'm saying? Never know. That's how you capitalize. That's how you capitalize.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, boy, your condition was on point, boy. Old school fighter, man. 15 round fighter over here, man. For real? For sure. I was at camp, spawned 13, 14 rounds. Wait, with time or no time? No, with time for sure. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Okay. You know, I did 22 rounds, no clock. Chad, we're gonna get you a camp. Maybe you can get me ready for the rematch. Hey, matter of fact, bring me the camp. I ain't ain't gonna charge you. I ain't gonna charge you. I give you four rounds. I let somebody else go for it.

Now I come back for another four. I exchange no robbery. I like that. All right, back. Man, Lamont, will you put a pause on this man? Don't beat him up too bad because I need it for the nightcap. I said I wanted to come back and talk about slurring.

I don't want him to come back and talk about like champion. He's gonna be all right. I think he's gonna be all right. Don't just get him body blows. Don't hit think you'll be I don't you getting body blows don't Body blows My defense my defense is my offense My a lot of times when guys win and they get a rematch they like well I don't have anything to improve upon and they run into a problem Because you had a draw do you can you go back and say,

you know what, in this situation here, I should have did this instead of that, and I might've been able to land something. Is that how you go back and approach the fight? Because you didn't get the win, and so you're like, well, I didn't get the win, I didn't lose technically, but I didn't win either. And I think as a fighter, you know, draws and ties,

that ain't what we do it for. We wanna be win. We want to be on the top spot. And because you didn't land on the top spot, you feel that, you know what, go back and watch this fight through 12 rounds. Maybe if I pick it up through the first three or four rounds, maybe that's a round or two that I win.

And we don't even have this discussion at the end because it looked like they gave you round 12. Had you not won round 12, he would have won the fight. Which is sad, honestly. So to me, I thought I won the fight clearly. I thought I won a close fight. I thought I won a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled him or whatever, but to me, I think I won the fight. Now granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round 10-9. If that called a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round 10-9. If that was a knockdown, I went around 10-8. That's a three point swing.

I would win a unanimous decision. So you got to take all of that into account. It's three things that could have happened in that ninth round alone with that knee. It could have been a 10-8 round, scored a knockdown. It could have been a 10-8 round scored a knockdown. It could have been a disqualification or I could have won by TKO. So honestly, when you look at that and you say, I got to draw against the number one spectacle in America, a pound for pound talent and a guy with a 90% knockout ratio, look at it and like, okay, if you got a draw, more than likely you was supposed to win that night.

So even though I didn't get to win, I'm not a moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly. Right, exactly. I'm pissed that I didn't win. honestly. Right, exactly. I'm pissed that I didn't win. But I really think that I should have, a lot of people think that I should have. And the rematch is just going to make it worse for him because I got to rev it up. Like you said, I got to do something.

I got to do something. I got to pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make it a victory for me Lamont you're moving up from super featherweight To lightweight were you afraid that moving up? Might rob you or some of the park because that's you know, normally guys that move up they lose some of the sting Were you concerned about that? Are you gonna stay are you gonna stay in super feather? Are you looking to move up? Maybe go 135, 140, even higher.

No, one thing that 135 gave me is a lot more stingy. I ain't gonna lie, I was five less pounds I had to lose. So, you know, I felt- So what do you normally walk around at Lamont? Normally, I wanna say if I- 50, 55? Especially if I'm in the gym. No, no, no, I walk around like 150.

Somewhere around 150, 149 on a good day. If I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than 55. Okay. Okay. So I think that works. I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So it was easy for him to stay at 147

because Floyd only walking around at like 155 to begin with. So he go for six, eight weeks, he lose five pounds. That's his sweet spot. And that's another thing with you. It's not like you walking around 165, 161, 165 and you got to strip down 35, 30 pounds. You only having to come down 10,

maybe even 15 pounds at a max. So that's not that drastic where you see these guys have to go through this massive dehydration in order to make weight because man, you keep doing that flux weight in your body, man. It takes something out of you, man. It definitely takes a toll on you for sure. Hey, listen, after a fight like this, how much time do y'all take off? Before you get back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not only in

the shape, but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency. It's tough, man, especially how boxing is today. That's more so like a personal. So me personally, I don't like being out the gym too long. I get cussed out by my doctor because he tell me to take a break. You know what I'm saying? Right.

And I understand because your body do need to heal, rest. I've been through an eight week training camp and then went through a hard 12 round fight. So you know, you got to get your body together, take some time off because when you peak, when you peak and you peak at the right time, and I think I peaked at the perfect time, Saturday night, it depletes you. So, I get a little rest. I get a little rest probably like two weeks. And I want to be back in the gym, one, because I probably

get too heavy and I'm like, I don't feel right. And I be bored. I normally be in the gym. So that's how I go. Where you live at? I live in DC. Okay, okay. I'm going to make a little trip down there, man.

Whenever you get back in the gym and you want to start sparring, I'm going to come down there and I got to- I don't know. I'm a bad man, Chad. I don't know. I know. I'm a bad man too. That's what my teacher called me whenever I was in high school.

I got a little bet for you. We're going to do eight rounds. We're going to do eight rounds? Yeah. We're going to do eight. If you can beat me at least four rounds. Now you know LeBron James, he just scored 50,000 points, right? He sent me the ball.

If you could beat me, if you could win more rounds than me, I'd send you this ball he gave me to put up. I'm calling my dad right now. We can set that up. Milestone. We're gonna set that up for sure. You gonna take that ball up off him?

You gonna get that ball up off him? Okay. All right, the trophy case. Right on top of the belt. Okay. Matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you. I'm only using my jab. And you give me you give it you give it away. Nah, I mean, listen, I can take what I'm doing.

Still, that's what I do. I told you they call me you giving the prize away. The brawn. I don't like that. Oh, no, you ain't gonna get that. You think I'm gonna lose you and lose that ball? Definitely is a lie. Hey, let me ask you this Lamont,

after the tank fight, who would you like to fight after the tank? Are you gonna stay at, are you gonna stay, if you rematch, you beat Tank at 135, are you gonna stay at 135 or slide back down to 130 or go up even to 140? It depends on what's available. If the champions at 35 are available,

I wanna fight them, I wanna unify, obviously. That's good for my career, it's like legacy fights and on top of that, they big money fights. Money. If they not, if they not available, I would go definitely defend my title at 30 and probably try to unify there because I can make 30 comfortably.

And I feel like I run that division. Like I probably can't even go undisputed if they let me. That's live. Cause I'm live. Lamar, being a student of the game, I know you heard your dad, you weren't around there, but I know your dad has told you, or whomever in your corner, about the Four Kings. Hearns, Hagler, Durand, Leonard,

and how they fought each other. And all the top contenders in that, they fought them. You go back to the seventies, you look at the heavyweights, they fought Norton, fought Ali, he fought Frazier, he fought Shavers, he fought Ali. Nobody dug, why is it now Lamont, that we have guys and they want to cherry pick and don't want to take, it seemed like, and I love Floyd,

but Floyd that 50 and 0, cause nobody wants to take an ass with it now. Because now they feel like my legacy is ruined. I lost the fight. Some of the great fighters, we don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbank or Larry Holmes.

We don't hold that against them. We don't hold it against Leonard. We don't hold against Hagler. We don't hold against Hearns. We don't hold that against them. We don't hold it against Leonard. We don't hold against Hagler. We don't hold against Hearns. We don't hold against nobody. I don't know. And I hate that I love Floyd and I'm glad he's undefeated, but everybody thinks now if I be undefeated, I'm going to be revered like Floyd and it's not going to happen. It ain't. Floyd is one of a kind fighter, man, in the caliber. Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and retire undefeated, it's not going to be the same.

And it's not going to be the same because Floyd put it in his work. Floyd fought them guys when he was able to. He fought everybody. He fought them guys. And he earned the right to fight who he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case may be. That's just a once in a lifetime fighter. I don't know why the guys are not...

Maybe I do. I'm going to give you a little scoop. These guys are worried about the money that they can make if they- He told you, huh? If they still have an O on their record. They think that a blemish would knock down the value of whatever they have in their contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is crazy to me. I think if you put on a good enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the performance

is what matters. It's really what matters. So people want to pay to see you fight. If you fight the good fights, that's what- They're going to pay to see it. They're going to pay to see it. That's why pay-per-view numbers used to be so high because people are going to pay, they want to see certain fights. They want to see them fights. Look at Mickey, look at Mickey Ward and Arturo Gotti. Ooh. That was jam packed. Law didn't matter.

People still pay big money to see that because they know they was going to get action. Yeah. But now Lamont guys like, you know what? Yeah, if I fought Lamont, I can make 15 mil, but if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra five when I can get 15 mil, but if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra five when I can get this can over here and I can whip

him for 10? So I just get me a couple, I get me five or 10, I get me five or 10, I need 10 million dollar fight. Why would I need to take a risk for two of those big fights? Nah, I ain't gonna do that. But then, you gotta think about that. Lamar, I told Uncle Art of Night, we talked about this too, right? Not only do certain people not want to take risks, but you want to build it up

until you get to the really, really good fight. So if you got, like you talk about the Four Kings back then, back in the day, right? And today if you got the best boxes, right? And if all the best boxes fight each other right now, and not have fight after fight after fight, and actually build it so people want to actually actually want to watch and you can maximize your your pay that's a little different.

Think about how long before Earl and Bud actually fought. Look how long it took look how many fights they had because they were able to build up to it. So from that standpoint I kind of get it and understand you want to maximize your pay. You also, nobody wants to lose, but at some point they ain't gonna have no choice but to fight each other. But Ocho, you gotta understand. The timing gotta be right. But think about it, and Lamont, you know this,

Sugar Ray went to 160 to fly Hagler. He definitely did. Purrs went up. He definitely did. He didn't come down, they went to him. They did, cause they started off like one to me. And you talking about guys that's very similar, 130, 135. They went up two, They didn't come down. He they went to him They did because they similar 131 35 they went up to click sugar rate was 147 went to 160

Hagler what our Hearns would 147 went to 160. He definitely right about that that's middleweight and Ray Ray and Durant started at 35, so And Ray and Durant started at 35. So. Come on. You were that small? Yeah. One of the best light weights to ever do it.

Yeah. Horse hands on 135. A lot of those guys started, yes, a lot of those guys started there, Ocho. 30, 35, Floyd, 30, 35, 40, 47, and De La Hoya at 54. Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of them guys, yeah. And Pacquiao's an anomaly.

Pacquiao started at like 106, 112, and blew through everything. Eight division champion, and still knocking them out. You're not gonna see that. Even when you look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again. Nobody's going to do that. Yeah.

I mean, basically you'd have to start it, say you'd have to start it like 140 and go to heavyweight to try to clean out everything. Exactly. And that is not happening. At all. I mean, Roy was an anomaly. Because Roy went from 60, 60, he said it. 10 years straight.

Middleweight, heavyweight. Roy was, if Roy had Roy just stayed there and not screw up the muscle that he put on to go to heavy, cause I think that took a lot out of him. That took too much out of him. He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come back down or just took his time.

But Roy won the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the title up and came back down. And he wasn't the same after Tarver beat him that one time. He was never the same. Because he got started getting beat by fighters that Roy would have mopped the floor inside of five rounds with him. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

So what's next, Tank? I mean, excuse me. What's next, Lamont? What's next? After this Tank fight, you say, what's next, Lamont? What's next? After this Tank fight, you say you want to fight whoever the big money fight is, who? Lomo, Tiofimo, Haney, Garcia, whoever. The champs at 135 right now are Shakur, Keyshawn Davis, and Loma Chinca.

That's who we're going to be looking at after I beat Tank in the rematch. If them guys ain't available, then we going to go to 30 and defend my 130 pound championship. Rob Markman So listen, out of those three you just named, who would you prefer to fight first? If you can't get all three, if you had a preference? Darius If I had a preference? I don't really got a preference. I would put a blindfold on and pick whichever one. It don't matter. Ooh, that's what I'm talking about. You talking about that talk. Whoever want this ass. Hey, tell them out. Whoever want this ass with me.

That's who I want. Who want this ass with me? For sure. As a matter of fact, I tell you what. I tell you what, Lomo, you going to get it first. So you going to get it after I get tanked. When tank when I get tank. I'm gonna get you at the first here It's your core. I'm gonna come see you in July and Keisha David. Hey at the end of the year or 27 I got your I got you Hey, man, I appreciate it congratulations great fight It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for

because you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp and you put the time in to win. It didn't go away, but who knows what's gonna happen July, August when the next fight come around. Wish you the best and guess what? Come back and join us again when the fight happens and all. We'll see what happens after that Lamar. Appreciate it.

Appreciate you. Thank you man, I appreciate both of y'all man. All right, all right, I'ma see you in DC we'll see what happens after that Lamar. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Appreciate you man. I appreciate both of y'all. All right, I'ma see you in DC. No doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you out for sure. All right, man.

Just a body. Cause he need to talk. I don't want to. Don't need him to talk. I don't want to. You know. Yeah, that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah.

Big leg. That's what I want you to do. That's what I want you to do. Hear what I want to say? Yeah, I got it. I'm gonna make sure I record it too. We have it on the nightcap. That's what I need you to do. Yeah, I got it. I'm going to make sure I record it too. We have it on the night count. That's what I need you to do.

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