Nightcap - Nightcap Best Of - Part 2: Unc & Ocho get Funny Marco to BREAK CHARACTER

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

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Okay, go ahead on, big dog. Yeah, you know how it go. Overlooking, I mean, is that the Hudson behind you? Nah, I don't know what it is. It's $20,000 a month, though. Oh, Lord. Yeah.

Hey, hold on, hold on. I'm in New York. I'm in my condo. I'm in New York. Oh, okay. How much you said it is a month? $20,000. I mean, it comes with our furniture and stuff. That's a backdrop.

That's probably the green screen. Nah, it ain't no green screen. Can I ask you a question? Get up there and walk back. I don't walk around in my apartment like that. Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, I don't want somebody breaking my house. You feel me?

How do you mean somebody's going to break in your house? If you're paying $20,000 a month for a place in New York, they got guards. I'm saying, but I'm doing it because I got two of them. So it's $10,000 a month. So I'm just saying $ they got guard. I'm saying, but I'm doing it because I got two of them. So it's $10,000 a month. So I'm just like $20,000. I'll just sum it up. What you mean you got two for one a month? No, my mama live next door.

What's funny? Hey. Hey, what a $100 that you owe me. What's up, Uncle? What's up, Uncle? What's up? I'm not good. Hey. Man, what a $100 at you over there? What's up, Uncle? What's up, Uncle? What's up? I'm not good.

I don't, Uncle. Man, where that $100 at? Why you calling him Uncle if you're the same age? Why you ain't never asked him that? Why you calling him Uncle? Like, make him feel old. Hey, why you ignoring me? Where's the $100 you over there?

You don't need it. Marco, I don't want to listen. I don't want to have to put no hands on you, boy. All I got to do is call Harrison. Don't let me get Harrison on. Who? You know who I'm talking about. Wasn't it Andy Harrison?

What's his name? James Harrison. Yeah, who was about to... And you just sit there and let him watch. You didn't do nothing. You was smiling the whole time. You didn't get it. You knew you...

I'm the promoter. No, but I'm saying you seen he was scared and you just watched it go back and forth. No, Ocho ain't scared. You seen who was scared? No, you weren't scared of him. He a big dude. I'm scared. I don't care about nobody being big, man. Listen, you'll see... Hold on.

Stay with me real quick. You'll see when we fight Super Bowl week, we'll see who's scared. I know, but you ain't be scared to get beat up. Get beat up? No, you scared to lose? I mean, I wouldn't fight him. Why?

I protect myself. You see where I live. I live in good environments. I work hard for myself. I work hard too, but you can't just let people because they big. You're not supposed to be scared.

You got to stand up for yourself. What you going to say? You scared as hell? You can't just let people because they big. You're not supposed to be scared of them. You got to stand up for yourself. You're not cussing none of them. What are you going to say? You scared as hell? No, I'm just saying, you know, I don't do that cussing shit. It's cool. Man, Mark, let me ask you this. Were you funny growing up or did you stumble into comedy?

Were you a class clown or did you prank people? How did you stumble? How did you come into this role that you are now well in school uh well i'm dyslexic so um wait you what you what dyslex. I'm a struggle. You got to wear a word like Ocho. What's funny? Hey, you can spell it. No? I'm not really... Okay, so you're dyslexic. And then what happened?

My bad. I was just struggling in school. And just, you know, once people pick on you for not being able to read a spell, you got to find your way to get out of it. So I used to just try to find a humor. You know, have y'all ever heard of popcorn reading? Popcorn reading is where you like read and somebody pick you to read.

So like, they used to give me to read. So like a lot of people used to pick on me and pick me. So did you get a diploma? Did you get a certificate, participation award? So what happened? Yeah, it was what? It was five students in the classroom and a dog, two teachers. Miss Collins.

Well, we on here to speak our truth or what? Yeah, for sure. Go ahead, my bad. I'm just saying, what school did you did y'all all graduate? Did y'all all go to school? How many people was in your classroom? Yeah.

I mean, I was in a full class. What's a full class? 42 students. But I changed class for every period. How do your teachers focus on you with 42 students? I mean, it's a professor. That's what happened at the university.

We have four students in our classroom because we can get the teachers focused on the main people. Did you stay in that same classroom the whole day, or did you change classes at any point in time during the day? I stayed in the same classroom. We had two teachers. So they wrote. Interesting. Why do you say that?

Well, I mean, normally, I mean, most students. When you say normally, what do you mean by that? Because, like... Normally, most students, they change classes unless, you know, there are some deficiencies. What does that mean? I don't know what that word means. That means that, you know, you're deficient in certain things

and they don't want you to get lost between changing classes. So they just keep... They just keep they just keep you let me ask you a question did the teacher meet you let the school bus pull up did the teacher meet you there and walk you to class and then walk you back to the school bus or on the bus it was i was the only one i rode my bus oh i stayed in clover huh i was i stayed in cloverleaf apartments in kansas city so i was and that's because i lived in a project so i i was i got selected to go to that school that's what my mama told me i was selected how many recesses and how many lunches did you have in a day uh we had one and then we had a dog walk. Dog walk was where you get to walk the dog. Okay. No, at home, not in school.

What was your favorite subject? Lunch? Nap time? I mean, you know, school was just, you know, it was fine. I graduated. You did? Yeah. With a diploma or certificate? It was both.

It was in a plastic. It was a plastic. It was, what's that called? Lemonated. It was lemonade. Oh. But you know you have to have it laminated. They don't hand it to you laminated.

No, they hand it laminated with us. And you open it up. And they say, congratulations, Marco Summers. You have completed high school diploma. Oh, that's dope. Oh, you ain't go to college? No, I ain't go. No, college, you know, college ain't for everybody.

Right. You know what, that's the fact. The fact that you've been able to. I know y'all only went to college because y'all was good at sports. Everybody on here, let's be real, everybody on here ain't that smart. Well, hold on. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's that's a fact this is i am good at reading i can read that one thing especially i got i can read a harry potter book in a day so that's one thing that i am good at

a harry potter day so that's one thing a lot of people i can't i am good at reading oh okay okay i i have a question how did you go from trolling in Walmart to interviewing rappers and celebrities on couches? Like that, that's, that's tremendous for someone that didn't go to college for someone that didn't. Okay. Okay. Okay. You ain't got to add all that.

Like I know. My bad. My bad. Okay. How did you go from, I mean, I, I believe, uh, cause when COVID time, it was like the city was shut down. So I was out when I got, you know, I was interviewing people on the streets. Like, you know, and I was like, always pay them for their advice.

Like, how did they feel about COVID? So I was the only one working during COVID, like Tom still doing, you know, so that was one big thing. So and then, you know, with me being able to talk to like people out on the streets, it was just like opening the door that I was good at communication. So and, you know, just getting a chance to talk to a few underground rappers and it started going up and up, you know. And there you go. I like that. I like that you just said that. $20,000 a month.

It's condo I worked hard for at what moment at what moment or what celebrity was your breakthrough where it was like you know what what I have going on and what I'm doing right now just might be bigger

than just internet funny where it's where it's taken off to the point where you can afford a $20,000 a month condo yeah the one I'm in right now right yeah

yeah alright well talking getting to sit down with nikki menage that kind of like open oh that took that that blew it was a little scared you know like she's a good part i was just scared you know talking to her but hold up nikki menage sit down with you and she won't sit down with me shana you know how you are it's kind of hard sitting down with you you know how you are when you sit down because you shana you you warm people

up and then you just like you you you. You warm people up and then you just hit them with it. Then you act like, oh, I didn't know it. I don't. No, but you're really good at manipulating the situation, which you're great at what you do, right? Because everybody loves you for it. Everybody watches your interviews, but you're really good at

willing somebody in. You could be a detective on the show. If 50 Cent is watching this, he needs to put you on fire as a cop. It could be a detective on the show. If 50 Cent is watching this, he need to put you on fire as a cop. It would be really cool. I like that. Hey, listen, bro. Your interviews.

Is that real Gucci that you got on? What's that you wearing? Is it real? Yeah, it's real. Let me see the tag. I know where you got that from yeah Louis Vuitton and Bal Harbour nah

but you save money though it's not because you cheap it's not to save money I don't think you understand it's 2025 and I'm in the season of Ocho this year. I'm spinning all year long. Okay. Well, why you ain't pay Uncle's money?

All year long. Yeah, that's a good question. Now you owe him $5,000. Why you ain't pay him? But you owe me $100. Let me get my $100. That's little money. It ain't little money. It's the principle. Well, I said, you need to go ahead and get your money.

So that's what we need to talk about. Okay, how about we do this? Will you pay me my $100? I'll pay you his money. Don't put me in the midst of that fire. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that really has anything to do with it, don't you? One should not have anything to do with the other. Listen, the fact that I didn't even know he was coming on here, but he owed me money.

And I ain't seen him since I let him on that night. You know what? I've never seen a bald-headed homeless person. Y'all do really good for y'all community. No, I'm just saying, no. I said I've never seen, like, all bald-headed men do really good. We can't... Yeah. Shannon, have you ever seen a bald-headed dude do bad, like, doing bad? No.

Okay, I see what you mean. Michael Jordan, everybody that's bald-headed is always, like doing bad. Oh, I see what you mean. Michael Jordan, everybody that's ball headed is always, like, they good. Steve Harvey. Oh. Okay, yeah, you're right. Okay. I'm just saying, everybody that's ball headed, they ain't got shit to worry about.

They just stress out their hair. The Wayans brothers? Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Hey, are you married? No, you know, I want to get married, but I see like, it just seems like it's a lot of papers to read and stuff. I'm not really a reading type of dude. Yeah.

But, but, but, hold on. Did you just have, didn't you just have a little one? Yeah, I did. Yeah. But me, that was, you know, you know how that goes. You know. No, tell me. Wait.

You had a baby? Yeah, but you know how that goes. Why are we talking about, why are you talking about? Wait. You're not, you're not a know? No, tell me. Wait, you had a baby? Yeah, but you know how that goes. Why are we talking about, why are you saying that? Wait, you're not a virgin? I ain't a virgin. Why they saying that? I'm gonna say it, cause I don't be speaking on shit, you know?

Okay, I mean. Probably I need to go live so they know I be doing my thing, you know? There you go, there you go, Marco. That was uncalled for. That was a low blow, bro. Well, I'm just saying, no, it ain't nothing to do with you. I'm talking to him. No, you talking about me.

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Oh, you got two. You know, I just genders. You can't just let I'm gonna let her decide or him. Whatever. I'm gonna let them decide. Hey, I want to interview Bobby. Can you make that happen? I definitely can, but don't start no shit.

You feel me? How am I going to start? I'm saying you know what you do. Look at your shirt, the Joker. Like, you know who you are. You wear your, like, it's all in your face. Who is Bobby? Bobby Atoff.

Yes. Oh, ain't you and Bobby dating? No, no. No, don't do that. I'm just saying I saw the chemistry y'all had together. No, we don't date. That's a friend. She a friend of mine.

But I feel like that. I saw the chemistry. I know what friend mean. What kind of friend? What we talking about? I mean, look who's talking. Because are you in a relationship or not? Yes. Me? me yeah my girl

right here okay yeah yeah I didn't know I'm trying to figure out what you get in that time I'm like a detective say I ask a question and I'll be surprised I don't I don't know what they're gonna say you be some like when you when you interview people are you not surprised that some of the answers that they say? But but the clickbait where I feel like people you're really good at throwing somebody missed into it. Like you just add some shit about somebody that has nothing to do with you. Like, you know, I'm saying this promise that is like I was about to say something, but it is not. Somebody can clip it and it's not. I mean, if I'm asking, let's just say for the sake of argument, let's just say I'm sitting down and I'm talking to Michael Jordan.

Okay, let's say this. Can I give you an example? All right, let's put Fat Joe in there. Let's hypothetically, hypothetically speaking, right? Yes. We're using Fat Joe, which is, this is off, not real. You, like, when you're sitting down talking to Lil' Kim, you'd be like, so what do you think about Fat Joe Harpies?

Do you feel like he should do something about it? And then Fat Joe caught a stray. You're giving people strays. And then it'll get clipped. Fat Joe's herpes get talked by Lil' Kim. And then Fat Joe's like, what's going on? Why am I getting tagged in this? No, I ask.

I say, hey, Lil' Kim, what is Fat Joe like? What was it like to be in the studio with Fat Joe? What was it like to be around Puffy or Big biggie rest his soul I don't know your best one cup no you don't do that you have a specific topic which you good with that's why you have a very successful podcast because you know how to clip people because you talk about fat Joe herpes can you say fat Joe herpes real quick no Joe was good bad Joe was bad Joe was good fat Joe was unbelievable no but he talked yeah I asked fat Joe questions he answered the question he talked about his all his son uh his special needs son but I'm just no we just don't I didn't know we're not talking on that interview I just threw a name up there right no but I'm saying but see that that last part did

you said what's gonna get clicks that shelterps said this about Fat Joe. Say what about Fat Joe? That you said what you said about Fat Joe. I don't know what I said. What people try to get, what people say is that I ask a question. Yes, I asked the questions, but I don't know the answers to the questions. That's why I'm asking. I asked questions that I think that people, if my fans that are watching or listening, if they were in those shoes, they would ask those very

questions. No, no, that's it. Chad, do you agree? I mean, I kind of agree. The point of having certain interviews or to ask the questions that people want to know the answers to and probably if they were in Unc's shoes, those are the questions that they would ask knowing that that's what

the people want to hear. Which, no, they're not bad questions. They're good questions because they're very successful, but some people feel like they caught us straight. For instance, if somebody trying to get out of that situation, you would bring it back up like, damn, that's what it is. That's where some people are like, damn, he brought it back up. That's where things can get

tricky. What about you sharing DMs? You bringing that up? Somebody caught us straight somebody takes you something to confidentiality and you showing that what about that what that's what that say who is that that dm i'm reading the chat it says why is marco the sexiest person on this live thank you no no no that's not what that DM say. Who is that from? Marco is so good looking. Thank you. I'm reading the comments. Marco is so beautiful.

Hey, chat. Read that DM, Marco. Honestly, if we all went out publicly and we was all single, do y'all feel like we take the money and fame away? Who look better on here? Let's be real. I mean, like, honestly, like, for real, scale of 1 to 10. What you rate yourself for scale of one to ten scale of one to say what you

rate yourself scale of one to ten you're a 9.8 on what scale or 20 no I want to 10 right oh no Marco oh I was stopped so by the scale I'm, Marco. Like, let's take away the muscles. Well, damn. What, you want to put me on a zipping? I mean... Hey, no, Marco, scale of 1 to 10, what you rate yourself? I mean, honestly, okay, all right, 7.5. 7.5? I mean, before, with a haircut or after?

I mean, you know, I'm not... Who's asking? You? Nah, I ain't asking. I mean, you know, I'm not. Who's asking? You? Nah, I ain't asking. I mean, you're not my type. Listen, I mean, life is all about confidence. I'm just saying you're not my type. Let's get that out of the way. What you trying to say?

I just, you're not my type. But here's the thing. If we all went out, everybody knows who each of us are. But let's take away the fame let's take it away like hold on hold on let me get this right we're gonna take away the fame and we're gonna walk down the street as is i'm as muscular as i am now my personality is the same the only thing you take away is the fame but your people skills are not good man please you just said i get people to open up okay you do but it's

because people are scared of you you are aggressive look at that you see you talk with her you are aggressive like i will be scared like see that the only thing that saves you you have a beautiful smile let's talk about it but if you didn't have that you are aggressive like what else you were thinking what you were cutting my head off too no it, it ain't that. What did I have going on? Okay, Chad, bald-headed. Some women like bald-headed people. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

All women. All women. All women. And listen, my personality wins nine times out of ten. But you just look like you know how to tell women what they want to hear. So people are going to begin as a cat person. Again, you just have, you know how to work. You know how to talk. You know how to communicate.

Well, you got a kid, so you know how to do something. I mean, yeah, but just have, you know how to work, you know how to talk. You know how to communicate. Well, you got a cat, so you know how to do something. I mean, yeah, but again, I just know how to DM. And you be posting it. People be catching straight. They talking to you in confidentiality. You posting their DM. Who is the DM? I still don't know.

Who is the DM? All right, we're going to talk about it. No, we're going to talk about it. Usher. All right, guys. Okay. Hey, you know No, we're going to talk about it. Usher. All right, hey. Okay, hey, you know what? I wanted to ask you something, too. You've had Offset, G Herbo, Boosie, I mean, stars like La La on the couch.

Yeah, shout out to La La. Shout out to La La. Hey, who's your dream interview that you've yet to do? I say, and I think, okay, I think Chris Tucker would be dope. Dave Chappelle. Ooh. Okay, you got Chris Tucker will be dope. Dave Chappelle. Okay, you got Chris Tucker? I have.

He's one of my first ones. But I knew Tuck, so. What about Dave Chappelle? Why you ain't got Dave Chappelle yet? Because he don't want to catch a straight? Nah. I'm going to have him on the show eventually. I will.

That's a good one. I got a list of people. I got like five people that I think in 2025. Let me ask you a question. If you could interview Michael Jackson, what was something that you could ask him right now? Like, live, what would you ask Michael Jackson? Shit. What would I ask Michael?

That's a good one there, boy. Probably why wasn't thriller enough break that down because he drove himself crazy trying to replicate thriller because thriller you have to understand that was haley's comet most people only see one haley's comet he he had thriller a hundred you know at the time 35 million hard copies sold but everything that came after that even though it was doing diamond which is 10 how many artists now you know the music industry how many artists now had it bad with a diamond dangerous but it wasn't thriller so and so he made himself you know it's like a it's like a pitcher throwing a perfect game and then he's like he has one hitter he has two hitters, he has the ERA, but he's like, it's not a perfect game. He still might.

Just because he didn't replicate Thriller again, did anybody think less of him? I mean, Prince, do you think less of Prince because... Can we compare this to football as in like, let's say, let's take this in football terms, like getting a football ring. Let's say Patrick Mahomes is

Michael Jackson he wants more yes but here's the thing no you have to take it you have to take it as an individual so let's just say for the sake of argument he he goes to the Super Bowl he wins and he throws for 300 yards now the next two Super Bowl he throws 450 and he's like oh my gosh those are great performances they was in the biggest stage so I'm look I knew off the wall I think you know as far as like musically me

personally I like off the wall better than not commercially Thrill is the biggest album commercially but you go back and look at Michael's Off the Wall. It's a masterpiece, but that's not what he thought. So another thing, I feel like you're the only person

that can get 50 Cent and Ja Rule to sit down. Could you make that happen? No, I'm just saying, I really feel like you can sit them two down and also Bow Wow and Little Romeo because people feel like it was beef between them two. If you can get them two to sit down, that would be huge. I don't think there's

beef between. I think the thing is, look, the natural comparison. They were young teenage guys. But we need to hear them talk. But that's the thing because you get them two down and talk to them to get the history behind that. I can try. I'm working

on another beef that I'm trying to patch up. Who is that? I ain't telling. Hey, Marco, if you had the opportunity to host something like SNL, would you do it? You got to read a teleprompter, and reading is not mine.

A fundamental. And that's just, you know, don't say, don't do that. I don't do that. I ain't do nothing. You can't read.

I told you I would complete a Harry Potter book in a day. So it just, I read what I want to read. You feel me? What I'm into. So you can't read a teleprompter? They just got to slow it down. How slow

are we talking? Me, just as in skill as in school? No, I mean how slow does the teleprompter need to do for you to be able to be on SNL? Probably about like 3.5. I just made that up. Yeah.

Because normally it's like 28, 30, 33, something like that. Yeah. Do you feel like you would be able to host? Would you take the BET Awards if they told you to host it? Maybe. Maybe. What you mean maybe?

See, a lot of times, Ocho, I look at stuff as lifelong goals for me. Being a host of something like that, SNL, BET, that ain't never been... No, no, no. We're talking about BET. BET said we want you to host the Hip Hop Awards.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on. Me, Unc, and Ocho, the host of the Hip Hop Awards. No, no, said we want you to host these hip-hop awards... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on. Me, Unc, and Ocho, the host of the hip-hop awards. Oh, no, no, I'm not, no, not you. Unc, Chad. If they ask you to host the BET Awards hip-hop awards, do you feel like that's something that you do where it's kind of like some jobs ain't for everybody? Yeah, but

I'm not like hip-hop, though. That's what I'm saying. So you feel like you have to be, like, understand everything, you know? Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. So you feel like you have to be, like, understand everything, you know? Yeah. Right. That's why we would do it together. It would be perfect. But you're not hip-hop either.

You're not. How am I not hip-hop? Like, you wouldn't consider, like, as an NFL hip-hop player. Let's talk about it. You're not. You're more of a pop. You weren't even born. But, Chad, you're not a hip-hop type of person. You're not hip-hop. Don't nobody think of hip-hop and think of Chad. Like, oh,

Chad, you're not hip-hop. Right. Hold on. When you think of me as a football player, what do you think of me? I'm just curious. You know what I'm saying? Like, salsa, dancing. I can see you just more relaxed. Like, you want to be Scarface, smoke the cigar, like, more calm. Like, you're calm, but, like, you're not, you're not, you know what I'm saying? Listen, when I think of hip-hop, right, when I think of our culture, like, I was future before future. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Now, I'm just old, I'm just older now. Let's say this. Okay. All right. When you think of hip-hop, name three artists. Hip-hop. That's overall. That's part of hip-hop.

Go ahead. Like Drake, Henrik. No, no, no, no. We're talking about Joe Tom. What's your name? Oh, two pop. Are you 72? 72, right?

68. Okay. what oh but oh are you 72 72 right okay you know i came i came up and i came up in the era i came up uh rock him krs1 ll cool j big daddy cane i came up in that era exactly okay so chad name hip-hop hip hop When you say hip hop My uh See that's what I'm saying it's not in you I'm saying my time You knew what I asked you Why'd you uh like you know you're not hip hop What time I'm saying what introduced you

As a kid going through middle school What is hip hop to you Who is like introduced you to hip hop See that's what I'm saying No Man let me finish man What is hip-hop to you? Who introduced you to hip-hop? See, that's what I'm saying. Trick Daddy. Man, let me finish, man. Trick Daddy.

I'm from Miami. Trick Daddy, Trina, and Raw. You just said my... Do you see how you went through it? He went from New York. He hit two... You just said when I was in middle school. I just told you when I was in middle school.

You talking about where you're from. Hip-hop is worldwide. He went from KRS. In middle school? Hold on. When you was in middle school, you would listen to hip-hop worldwide? Yes, I was listening to worldwide. Snoop Dogg. Let's say Snoop Dogg introduced. I grew up on him, right?

Y'all know Pat-Pat? Yeah. Because, you know, actually, it's the Sugar Hill Gang in 1979. And that really kind of jumped it off. And then you had, you know, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. You had KR was one. You had Rock Him. And then you had the NWA. You had the Public Enemies.

You had the LL Cool J made it cool. LL Cool J was a cool rapper. He could talk about getting the ladies and seducing the ladies, and he wasn't always talking about smashing and smoking weed and drinking lean. LL made it cool. LL was a cool rapper. He made it fun. Right.

So, yeah. But let me tell you what. The ESPYs. Oh, Shannon, okay, if ESPN reached out and asked you about it, now you're talking about something Unc can get his teeth into. Hold on. Now when you talk about them calling you, now you're going to suggest I do it with you

or you're going to do it by yourself? Oh, Joe, I was just playing to what Marco was saying. Are you going to do it by yourself or with him? Like, the world is watching. What are you going to do? Yeah, what you gonna do? I'm not look that that guys see those things interest you Ocho. Don't don't interest me No, I'd like listen. Are you what you just said to ask me we speak a hypothetical. Yeah, we're so little

Yeah Yeah, that's not me. I really only do things that I'm passionate about, Marco. If anybody, anybody that knows Shannon, that's why I'm normally successful at the things that I do, because I'm really passionate about doing it. And if I'm not passionate about, I don't do it. I don't have a whole lot of hobbies. There's not a whole lot of things I'm passionate about. Can you get Eminem on your podcast? Can you talk to him? him like that will be big a lot of

people I could talk to would be big yeah hey Marco I want you interview me me you're I don't know art is me I don't know who me is I never heard that artist can you interview Chad Johnson? I mean, what is it? You know, you a cool dude, but you're not my type. I don't want to sit down and talk to you. I'm saying we good. Like, you a great person.

You don't think that we funny? It ain't about funny. It's just about. I'm funny. It's not about funny. Man, get me Bobby. You doing all this talking. Tell Bobby I want to sit down with Bobby.

Let me call Bobby right now while we live. Hold on. Hey, why you call her? You know what this is? You know what that is? That's that thing that be on TikTok, the TikTok shop. Yeah, you ever took one of these? I really don't need that.

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You know what it do. No, I'm saying, what it, I'm saying, do it, like, stand up and take it. Have you ever taken an energy drink? Have you ever drank energy drink? I drank, yeah, 28 Black. I have. Okay. So it give you a little boost, right?

Okay. There you go. But what if she don't want the boost? This ain't for her. It's for you. She going to like it. She going to like, oh, but here's the thing, Marco. Because if you don't do it all the time, she gonna say, hey,

I want you to bring that pee-pee you had the first time we got together. But then that's when you become addicted, and now I gotta pop pills every time. That's exactly what I'm giving her. What you just said, addicted. Hey, Marco. I'm saying, why don't you get with somebody your age, and you don't need to pop them. Whoa, whoa, what are we gonna

do? Go to the doctor to visit together? The hell I want somebody my age for. Right. See, we're going to be good. Right, right. Marco, you just take them like this, right? And you put them on your tongue. Why are you doing that with all of us on here, though?

Why are you popping them? He might got something in the wings, Marco. Damn. Let that man live. I'm popping it. I'm popping an acronym. If it's a party full of dudes and everything, you pop it like this. It's just a number of guys

in here. You ain't got to do that right now. I ain't over there. I'm going upstairs and going to bed. I don't know what else you got going on. It ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm at home. But I'm saying, all right. I'm at home. But you ain't got to be... Hey, tell us about your facial journey. You've been posting that on hey tell us about tell us about your facial journey uh you

you've been posting that on tiktok you've been telling about your journey oh yeah it's just when you well i feel like being in the industry sometimes when you accept yourself sometimes people find things to pull away from you and that's what brings out insecurity of people but once you know you're dealing with something you got it and you know it's a problem you can work on it yourself but sometimes i feel like when you get in here people pick on you and call it out and it can make people like feel insecure and they don't know what to do but once you accept it and you be okay with it like i know this is what i'm dealing with just it becomes a journey but sometimes people hide it because people pick on you about it so that's one thing that nobody ever you know tell you how to do it because nobody

knows that you're gonna be who you are like we don't just pick, you know, tell you how to do it because nobody knows that you're going to be who you are. Like, we don't just pick. Like, you didn't know you would be, like, probably the 58th best tight end in the world. You don't know that. But here's the thing, Mark. Let me ask you a question. So when you were growing up, obviously kids can be very, very cruel.

They made fun of your skin. Right. obviously kids can be very very cruel they made fun of your skin right but in there so at this age now you finally decided okay you got some money you can go get it treated so they tell you that they're going to be able to treat it and you'll be able to smooth your skin out and you won't know that you had this i think it's at what you have acne it's like yeah acne and asthma so it's all that you know yeah because my you know know, my mama was burnt and she had me. So I came out of that. So that's where the acne came from. That ain't got nothing to do with it.

That's not a genetic trait. Okay. Well, I don't know. That's what my brother told me. But okay. So more importantly, what I was trying to say is just something become a journey when you don't hide it. And I feel like being an entertainer, some people, you can use makeup all the time and you can use filters. But, you know, you've got to be true to yourself and also show people because people can look up to you in the same route.

So sometimes never hide your journey. That's what I learned. Just let it be that, you know. So let me ask you a question. So how many how many treatments did they that it's going to take? Or is it going to be an ongoing process? It's an ongoing thing. It's going to be a while. But, you know, and also eating. I didn't know. Like growing up on food stamps and stuff, we got a lot of snacks. And my mama never really took us to the doctor.

So all we did was just eat snacks all day. But some people don't know their child. Everybody can't eat the same. So the stuff I was eating was making me weak. You're making it worse. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah so again we just from the hood and when you from that sometimes you gotta learn a lot of stuff i was on a podcast and i recently said like a woman showed me how to love myself more because when you grow up without a daddy and your mom is just like working all the time nobody there to show you that so with that being said, I said a woman showed me

how to like properly take a shower. And people are like, oh, you don't know how to take a shower? I'm like, no, it's not that. But nobody was never there. My mom would just wash your ass and get out. And my daddy wasn't there. But when you get with somebody

and they show you properly how to do it this way, it start to show you to a man. That's why I said women are the best thing that you can introduce to your life or whatever your partner is, whatever you love. You know what I'm saying? Wherever they come from, they can show you a new step. So that's why I said women are the best thing that you can introduce to your life. Or whatever your partner is, whatever you love. You know what I'm saying? Wherever they come from, they can show you new steps. That's why it's always good to date

somebody that's, you know, on another level that can improve you, not just with money, not just with what they got, but what they can bring to you. But T.T. got to take a shot. Don't say it. Now we're going to get quit. I'm just saying you didn't have to say that again. I'm not saying that. I know. So before you became funny, Marco, you was dirty, Marco. I'm gonna say you have to say that again. I Know

So before you became funny Marco you was dirty Marco, I mean I'm not saying dirty It was just like, you know, I was just I was rocky Marco. No, I was just rough like Shannon Let's be right you who told you how to take a bath was your daddy and mama there. No My sister she's eight years older than me. She don't know how to wash like a man, so you was funky too. No, bro. No, bro. Bro, look, I grew up in a different situation. I didn't have a shower, so I grew up taking a bath in a tub. But, you know, she told me how to, you know,

lave it up right around here and right around here and go around your neck, get all that up under there. But did you use two rags or one rag? Back in the day, I only had one rag. That's not cool. Bro. So you used two rags? We barely, bro, I was happy to have a tub to be able to take a shower in. We had to dip well water. So, bro,

slow down. I'm okay. Hold on. Why you use two rags? What the other one for? Your ass. Oh, so you use a different rag? Okay. You don't do it. That's why I'm saying we got to do that. So tonight, use two rags. Yeah, I use two.

I mean, sometimes I use like a loofah. I have one of those little things. A loofah? Not a loofah. A loofah? What do they call them? A loofah? Yeah, the little smudge thing. That's a loofah? Yeah a loofah. A loofah. What do they call them? A loofah. Yeah, the little smudge thing. That's a loofah. Yeah.

I got one of those. I got one of those little like cloths that I use for my body. Then I use that thing for my face. Well, can I ask you a question? What's a proper way, and it's like talking to men out there that's dealing with it, a proper way for a guy to leave a woman that's in love with him. Because I feel like guys don't know how to break up with women. Yeah, it ain't no proper

way. The proper way to leave a woman. I mean, it's pretty easy. No, it's not. When a woman loves you, it's hard. It's different from a man to leave a woman. Because they leave us in the quickness, right? Yes. Well, it's always easier for the person that wants to break up because they're invested see if you if somebody wants if you if you're not ready to get an ocho now we talk about this a lot funny mark marco

is that when somebody wants the relationship and somebody wants out the person that doesn't want out is the one that hurts the most even though the person that wants out hurts a little but it's not the same as that person that really don't want you to go so it's hard the more you're invested in something the harder it is to let it go who are you trying to leave no it's not me i just i just want to speak for the man that's out there that's listening you know so oh okay it was a chat it was a chat question yeah okay so you try to leave somebody i don't know you know uh you know i got everybody left you i know i got a relationship with god we are still in there we doing good

no he's about to leave you no you you say you can't read no i'm decent i read what i need to read. Thanks for, you know. What? Take a little time. Have a woman ever made fun of your skin? Oh, yeah. I mean, the worst comment I got as a kid telling me it looked like somebody stepped on my face with cleats.

That was a woman. All right. How we exit? I don't know. Well, women like to mash Dr. Pimple Popper. They like to mash blackheads. All right, but if me and you went one-on-one to get girls, guess who walking out with them?

Boy, stop it. Boy, stop. Don't do that. Who walking out with him like you know what I'm saying just personality skills and just like nah bro you're not going to bring money into me

first of all I'm past that stage if you caught me in my 20s if you caught me in my 20s or early 30s I could have made the conversation I'm a grandfather bro I'm a grandfather I can get what I get who look better between me I'm great I'm a grandfather bro I'm a grandfather who look better between me and him really dude what he only one in here Oh bro

Marco I'm just I'm just a granddad I'm about to be 57 and you don't look like it I know I ain't trying to get no girls now I'm trying to find somebody I'm just saying I have a great appearance I have a nice sex appeal and I'm letting you know in his room if it came you left did you leave it at home I'm at home right now oh damn so just told I'm in New York. Bro, you not in New York, that's a green screen. There was not no green screen. What is going on with you?

I work hard for this shit. All you gotta do is get up and walk up. Get up and walk to the back. I'm not about to walk up on your show. I'm not doing that. I'm not rude. Yes. Bro, do you understand that Ocho and I

be in TV and we understand how green screen work? It's night outside. What do y'all want to see? An airplane fly past? What do y'all fucking want to see? I'm at my house. Exactly, you're at a green screen. I'm at the green room.

The boom boom room. It's a green room, dude. It is. I'm saying this is what I call it. Hold on. Hey, hey. Are you saying you live in the building? Yes, I do.

And that's the Hudson River behind you, right? I don't know what's back there, but. How the man go get. What's the name of your building? That's uncalled for. I don't have to speak on where I live because that's part of my safety protocols. Well, it's pretty easy to tell based on the. No, it's not because it's not that pretty easy.

These are twenty thousand dollars a month, partner. OK, and where you live, what's your apartment, what's your address? Yeah, what's your address? Exactly. You see, you don't just get that out. Let's talk about this interview you had with G Herbo that got uncomfortable. Okay, okay.

Oh, yeah. This is why people don't come on that damn show. Yeah. Yeah. Tell us about that interview. That was the chat. They asked me the whole night about that interview.

What happened? All right. So, all right. First off, let's say this. While we talking, you know what? All right. I was about to. You know, I got to realize.

Where do you want to start? I mean, how did it get i mean it wasn't it wasn't it was more of like they were on a level uh trolling and uh it was just matching it chicago got a nice way of trolling so you know i'm saying with them too they was just enjoying themselves and you know as a man i could have just you know enjoyed it back so it was just more of me trying to read the room but as i'm reading it the shit is real happening in real time so uh they didn't mean nothing personal. They just really like trolling.

They matched the troll. I wasn't on my feet at the time. Were you scared? I wasn't scared because it wasn't nothing dark. You know, in my fight room, I'm 17 and 0. Besides that, in school,

my school I went to. I haven't seen that water move yet how you got still water behind you what you talking about no I ain't seen no boat I ain't seen no boat class by I ain't seen the water move yeah because it's nighttime water move at nighttime it just because of what's oh so boats don't can't go at night huh what ferry at? I don't see no ferry. I'm in New York right now. Nothing. Ain't no plane.

Ain't no bird flew by. I just moved in here. Y'all can see it's not furnished or nothing. I just moved here. I just got a computer. I ain't talking about department. I'm talking about the back door. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. You told us it cost $20,000 a month because it was furnished. I know, but I got to pick the furniture out. No, if it's furnished, it already comes with furniture. You just move in. No, but I got to pick a certain type of furniture. No, you don't.

A furnished apartment, you don't pick the furniture. If I get up... See? You see me... Yeah, I saw. Yeah, I see. Come on back. You come on back. Yeah, I saw. Yeah, I see. Come on back. You come on back. Yeah, well. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.

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