Nightcap - Nightcap - Best of Summer Sessions Interviews

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson relive the best moments of their Summer Sessions Tour interviews from Atlanta, Houston, and Dallas. Cam Newton stops by to discuss his transition from NFL M...VP to media star, Terrell Owens joins to talk about his Hall of Fame career, and Sterling Sharpe drops in to talk about his career with the Green Bay Packers and growing up with Shannon. Also, enjoy interviews from Sharelle Rosado, Rick Ross, Andre Johnson, and much more!03:10 - Introduction03:30 - Cam Newton Joins09:18 - Atlanta Falcons Head Coach Raheem Morris joins13:50 - Flau'jae Johnson Joins19:30 - Sterling Sharpe Joins28:25 - Sharelle Rosado Joins32:42 - Rick Ross Joins35:25 - Terrell Owens Joins39:30 - Andre Johnson Joins47:30 - Houston Texans Head Coach DeMeco Ryans joins01:00:55 - Sharelle Rosado Joins again01:06:00 - Yella Beezy Joins1:10:40 - Eric Kendicks joins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:33 native, went to Westlake High School, won the Heisman Trophy at Auburn University. Let's put some hands together. Y'all know it. My nephew, Cal Newton. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah. Appreciate you. Appreciate that. No lie. Because where I'm at in my life, I look at you as a vessel of hope. And you give me the hope to be able to talk how I want to talk, dress how I want to dress, and speak my mind, and that Atlanta going to come out every single time. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So when people say or they have their opinions about me, I look at Shannon, Uncle Shannon, Uncle Shea, as that person that said he's doing it, so why can't I? So thank you, brother. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Go ahead. person that said he's doing it so why can't I so thank you bro appreciate that appreciate that we're good to see you bro hey I gotta call you out on some shit too Ocho like call him out don't we do Ocho been acting brand new bro hey you acting light skin bro bro. You act like skin.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Me? You act like skin. You get some good manians over there, man. Some good who? Manyan. Manyan? What that mean? Okay. Let's play a game. What that mean? Listen. We ain't never
Starting point is 00:05:21 rehearsed this. On the count of three, what does man yan mean? One, two, three. Man yan. Oh, yeah, I'm getting that, boy. I'm getting that. I'm getting that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah. But listen, listen, I'm getting it, right? But I ain't spinning it. So ain't nothing changed. It's still coming in, but I'm still pretending like I'm broke. I swear for God. Because this shit ain't real. That's cap.
Starting point is 00:05:51 He capping, y'all. I ain't gonna lie to you. But this ain't real. But see, I told you. Listen. But you a good finesser, boy. I would have thought, if I ain't know any better, I would have thought you were from Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I would have thought. Because there's some chuggers, there's some finessels, there's some scammers. All we need is an opportunity and some time. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We'll talk our way out of anything. Speaking of that, I still be scamming now. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I know cause the lights hitting it, it look good on it. Yeah. Shit, this ain't just from the lab, nigga. Nah. You fix the cone, that fool's gone. Straight from the lab. You say Nah. You fix the cone, you got fool's gold. Straight from the lab. You say you were disappointed that your former coach was there when you got there.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Y'all came in together, if I'm not mistaken, Ron Rivera. Didn't call you when he was in Washington. Why did that upset you so much? That was my dog. Like, we been through so much. I always hear his voice in my head. Yeah, kiddo. You know, man, this, that, like.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I say this respectfully. He raised me, and I raised him. He was a rookie head coach. I was a rookie player. I was not going to allow him to fail in Carolina, not under my watch. Right. Because there's the oath. And it's just in us as athletes that when somebody takes a chance on you,
Starting point is 00:07:17 no matter what round it is, you feel obligated to give. Because they, no matter what you want to say they've allowed you the opportunity to take care of your bloodline so when what was happened or what had happened in Carolina with me and coach Rivera we had numerous talks and discussions about the game of football and about life. So when I was going through the transition of being out of Carolina, I was like, yo, I was damn coach. And it wasn't just him.
Starting point is 00:07:55 See, that's the thing. I can't blame a head coach because he may not have picking power. But Marty Herney, the same thing. He drafted me. He was in D.C. And he said no.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I'm going to take it a step further. The head trainer that they had, Ryan Vermillion, was there. Nobody. So me going through this whole resurgence like, yo, like, damn. I kept asking my agent, I'm like, yo, they ain't called? Washington ain't called?
Starting point is 00:08:32 I don't know what's going on. So maybe you weren't as close as you previously thought? Man, I'm an action person, bro. I'm an action person. And I teach my children this. Man, I could tell you anything. But if I don't prove on a day-to-day basis that I love you. What I showed you. That don't mean nothing to me.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Have you had a conversation with him? Have you spoken to him? No, sir. Not like we said. No, it's not no beef. And I don't want nobody to kind of take what I'm saying as that. I'm angry. Because there was a business decision that has to be made.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And I knew I was coming off a shoulder injury. It's that, that's all it was. That was like for me to just say, Hey kiddo, how you doing? Hey, how you feeling though? Let's come up here for a physical. Let me really do a deep dive. That's the relationship we had. And it was the things that I told Coach Rivera.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I was like, yo, this was in Carolina. I was like, in any short yardage situation, Coach, give me the fucking ball. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Raheem Morris. And the man changed the script, guys. I just want to know, do you need some fresh legs out there at camp? Say that again. Do you need some fresh legs? I can still go.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I promise you. I tell Uncle all the time. I still got it. Even at 56. I'll tell you this. Ocho definitely can give me a couple of releases. There we go. And then we're going to stop right there, guys.
Starting point is 00:10:07 We got no routes. You know, when you talk about quarterbacks, we understand how important that position is. Obviously, in order to sustain a consistent success for any team, if you look at the top teams in the NFL, it always comes down to the quarterback position. Is there a disconnect in any way with the quarterback competing with each other, understanding the pressures that are on Kirk Cousins if he doesn't play well, that his job is in jeopardy?
Starting point is 00:10:33 I think the message was clear coming in. It was open. It was honest. It was clear. Kirk's our starter. Kirk's going to take us to places that we want to go to. And Mike is going to come in, and he's going to watch what it looks like, what it feels like.
Starting point is 00:10:46 He want to see what it looked like when you had your quarterbacks in your day with John Elway. He want to see what it looked like. You ain't have no quarterbacks, but what it looked like to go out there. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. You've won Super Bowls at two different stops. You've been an assistant of a lot of different head coaches. What is the common denominator between winning and losing?
Starting point is 00:11:10 The people. It's the people first business in everything we do. When you were a Raven, I watched it live in hand. I came into that stadium, and I watched the confidence in the people. I watched Ray Lewis talk smack. I watched you talk smack. And we went in there like, man, we about to beat them. And then y'all let us know after the game that y'all wasn't. And it was the people that was involved with the organizations. It was all about that.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And here we're building a people first business. And we're doing it with us. We're doing it with our people, with our fans. And I just think that's just the messaging. You got to have that type of mentality. It's got to be a people first mentality. it has to be at all times in everything we do we're talking about with the fans we're talking about what our community we're talking about in the building we're talking about with myself and Terry Fontenot in our relationship Arthur Blank and how he communicates with everybody how we go about our whole process it's the people it's the people it's simple obviously you had other opportunities how do you convince
Starting point is 00:12:03 coaches that look like you that don't feel like that opportunity is ever going to come? Because you had, think about it, there was a 15-year gap between the time that you were the head coach until you got it again. And you had interviews. And did you ever think like, man, I don't know if I'm going to ever get another chance to be a head coach again. So, you ready, Shannon? It's real simple for me, right? I was a 32-year- a head coach again so you ready shannon it's real simple for me right i was a 32 year old head coach and i did it again and people were telling me you should have had it a long time
Starting point is 00:12:35 ago i don't give a damn what you people were saying i'm gonna work for it i'm gonna go get it and when it happens i'm be ready so i'm gonna keep developing my it. And when it happens, I'm going to be ready. So I'm going to keep developing my skill set that when it happens again, there's going to be no denying on what you can and how you're going to be able to do it and go about your business. And I don't give a damn what color I am. Resorts don't know color. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:13:00 You look at what you've done. You've got Grady Jarrett. You bring him back. You sign Justin Simmons. You sign Matthew Judon. You just gave AJ Terrell got Grady Jarrett. You bring him back. You sign Justin Simmons. You sign Matthew Judon. You just gave A.J. Terrell a boatload of money. You locked him up. I drafted him, too.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Don't forget. You did. You did draft him. So what is the expectation of this defense, considering you've got guys that have been Pro Bowls, that have been to the All-Pro? A.J. Terrell is one of the better young corners in the league, and we know Grady Jarrett is one of the outstanding defensive linemen in the league.
Starting point is 00:13:26 What is the expectation? That's your area of expertise. As you know, as you know, it's really simple, right? Stats are for losers. Yes. There are expectations that go out there and beat dogs, right? We got to find ways to affect the quarterback and make him just feel
Starting point is 00:13:41 uncomfortable at all times. And once you find a way to make him uncomfortable and you dominate rundowns and you get the ball back, then just go watch our offense shine. Right? That's what winning teams do. That's how you form your identity. That's how you make things move. That's how the needle moves.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And the next thing you talking about it on your shows about the stats, we don't care about none of that. We care about the dog mentality that it's going to take to get there. That's what our goal is. That's what I that's that's what the expectations are from the seaport Let's put some hands together for Miss flojate Have a seat have a seat Whatever you want to say wherever you want to see How you doing, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good
Starting point is 00:14:23 I don't know if people know this but but you're from the Seaport. You grew up about three hours south of here in Savannah, Georgia. Yeah, most definitely. R.P. Camouflage. That's what we do at the Seaport. Let me ask you this. How do you balance the two? Because obviously you're good at this rap game.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You play basketball at an elite level. What's the schedule? How do you find time to... Because basketball, you're on a basketball scholarship yeah and but you still this is your passion also so how do you balance that I mean it is hard but I mean it's not impossible right you just gotta it's just time management but I know in the summer I gotta take full advantage of my time in music you know what I'm saying so I just try to go full throttle while still working out and trying to get better in the off season because like during the season coach
Starting point is 00:15:08 Moki like all right this is my time you know what I'm saying that was kind of that was kind of our like you know that was kind of our deal like you know you give me everything you got in the season and in the summer I'm gonna let you rock and do your music so yeah tell us the story um I saw you over at Cairns and you was telling the story that you had a concert one night. You had to do the concert, but you had to fly back, got back early in the morning. You was sleeping. You was tired, but you know you had to get it because Coach Mulkey was going to be on your you-know-what had you not. Yeah, no, so what happened was Rod Wave, he gave me the chance to open up for him in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So we had a game that night. The next day after games, we always have off days. wave he gave me like the chance to open up for him in Atlanta so we had a game that night the next day after games we always have off days so I flew to Atlanta on my off day and then I drove back seven hours to go to BR right and like I'm already knowing it's a stigma of like nah she can't do both for real like you know what I'm saying so I don't even want to give people a thought to even be like oh she came to practice and she was tired. No, when I came to practice, I was like bouncing off the walls for real. Because I knew that I had to come in and kill. You know what I'm saying? And I was the first one in the gym, last one out, like always. So I mean, my mindset, you know what I'm saying? I think it's more mind over matter. I think your
Starting point is 00:16:17 mind can make you do things that your body sometimes won't allow when you determine. And that's how I feel like I work all the time. You know what we all have dreams as when we growing up as kids obviously my dream I want to be an NFL player. One of your dreams I'm sure is to play in the WNBA. Will you continue to your path as far as I don't want to word the right way actually wanting to rap as well and be able to balance both at the highest level. Yeah, I think it'll be easier, honestly, because, you know, I don't have as much commitment. Yeah, like, oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:16:54 School, you got school, first of all. And you got tutoring sessions and all of that. And you got weights. And you got all the other, you know, requirements of an athlete. Practice, everything. So I think it'll be easier, you know what I'm saying, to be able to build my schedule and how I wanna do. My goal is to play in an arena during the day
Starting point is 00:17:11 and then sell out that same arena at night, like playing basketball. So that's my goal. That's what I'm talking about. That's live. You have to work that out with the coach. I don't know if she gonna be going for that one. She better go.
Starting point is 00:17:24 When did you realize that you could rap? When I was on America's Got Talent. I was on America's Got Talent when I was about 14, and I got the golden buzzer. And, like, Simon Cowell came to the back, and he was like, you know, one day you could be a superstar. And I'm like, bro, I'm like, that's Simon Cowell. Like, he don't even like singers for real. Him telling a young black girl that he sees some type of superstar power in her, that kind of just gave me the confidence that I could do it. Because right before America's Got Talent, I was on a rap game with Jermaine Dupri, and I lost.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And so when I lost that, I went into my room and I just wrote all day. And then America's Got Talent called, and I was ready for the opportunity. And I got that validation that I kind of needed as a 14-year-old. And ever since then, nobody could tell me nothing for sure. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing
Starting point is 00:18:32 that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Starting point is 00:21:21 Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction.
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Starting point is 00:22:25 As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Our last guest of the night, guys, he really doesn't need any introduction. You've heard me mention him on several occasions. He was the guy that raised me. He was the guy that I wanted to be the most like. My brother, Sterling Sharp. I was a real big fan of the show until I had to follow the discussion about Angel.
Starting point is 00:23:19 My religion wanted me to be around people bad, but I'm glad to be here. Do you realize I grew up with him, but tonight was the first time I met him? Yeah, yeah. And I've always been a big fan, and we say that a lot, but you know guys that have a passion for what they do. It ain't about money.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's not about cars or diamonds, although we have them. I enjoyed watching you play and do what you did. Now, the antics I probably could have did without. But I really did enjoy you as a player. I really appreciate the way you play. Thank you. I appreciate that. Coming from, and this is one
Starting point is 00:24:05 of the things, for those of you that watched when I played, obviously I was vilified through the mainstream media because of my style of play with the antics and having the fun. But to get the credit from my peers and those that came before me, you don't know how much that means. Definitely one of the best to ever do. Thank you. I appreciate it. Definitely one of the best to ever do. A lot of times people ask us, ask me, they ask you, man, how much of what you'll say, how much of what your brothers say about your grandparents, what your grandfather said, what your grandmother said, how much of what he's saying did they actually say?
Starting point is 00:24:44 I'm going to do it this way. For those of you who have grown up in a, I'm going to say a black church, you know, when they talk about Christians and Jesus, the shepherd and the sheep smell alike. Whatever he says, he got it from somewhere. He didn't come up with it on his own. So when he says, my grandma used to say, doesn't so, she actually did say it. When he said, you know, my grandfather used to say this, definitely used to say it. So Cam and I had a moment backstage and I was sitting in the audience listening to Cam and he said something that I've been saying for years that I never thought anybody heard, but obviously he felt the
Starting point is 00:25:32 same way. And if you look at Tiger Woods and Venus and Serena and Shannon Sharp and Sterling Sharp, and I don't know Chad's background, so I'm going to leave him out but the successful people that came from nowhere were told what to do what does Richard Williams know about playing tennis but who we have Venus and Serena what in the world did Earl Woods ever know about playing golf but he gave us Tiger Woods. I will say this. My brother and I have never had a fight. Now, he used to cheat, and I used to beat him down, but we never had a fight.
Starting point is 00:26:19 The only time my brother told me what he wasn't going to do was that he wasn't going to go to Savannah State College. And I said, that's good, because I'm on the way. I'm leaving Columbia. I was in school in South Carolina. I'm leaving. Bro, you're not going to the Army. That's not going to happen. The only time he and I ever had a disagreement,
Starting point is 00:26:38 I have never in my 59 years on this earth tried to be his father. But we were always taught that if you have to look past your own dinner table to find a role model, there's something going on in your home. I only wanted him. Bobby Dandridge. His nickname was Mr. Clutch. We had Franco Harris and Tony Dorsett. I wanted him to look at his own dinner table and be like, remember, it's the shepherd and the sheep thing. I never told him what to do. I never tried to instruct him. I never led him. I lived my life. But the wonderful thing, and for those of you who have kids, you know this, the wonderful thing is he was watching.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And I am so proud. I'm proud of that guy right there because I'm proud of Chad because the perception, the persona and who he really is, is actually two totally different people. You don't realize how hard it is for him to come out here and do that. That ain't who he is. That is not who he is. I'm ruining it for you. And for him to he didn't go through anything. He's led by a higher power that put him where he him to he didn't go through anything he's led by us by a higher power that put him where he wanted to be and what he went through on TV he needed to go through that so he could get here and sometimes many many times in a
Starting point is 00:28:23 family you go through things that are hurtful. But he had to go through that to get to here. And he had to be here to get him. And those two together are doing some really good stuff. They're fun to watch. They talk about really good things. Not the anal part. But they talk about really good things, and I'm very proud of both of them.
Starting point is 00:28:51 When we did the same things, when we both played football, we could talk football. When we both did TV, we could talk TV. I play golf. He doesn't. So we don't have anything in common right now. But we can still find out how each one of us, how we're doing. And I'm very proud of how he handled the skip situation. He almost he almost lost it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 The the the Afro-American almost came out. I know you saw it when the glasses went on the table. Skip, I'm in the F and L of fame. I was like, I said to myself, that is the end of the sharps on TV. That's it. Because I knew what was going to come next. And I was like, Skip, I hope you can fight. But no, I say that in jest. I never did. I never thought he would lose control. I was really shocked that he yelled and screamed, but he yelled and screamed not because of what Skip said.
Starting point is 00:30:01 He yelled and screamed because he was so hurt that a someone he liked and trusted would say or do that to him. And he would never say this. I'm not on TV. I don't do anyone else's media at all, except PGA Tour golf. I go on their show, but I don't do anybody else's because you can't ask me about him. Because I'm not going to give you anything about him. Do I like his success? You're going to have to use your own imagination. Do I think he is doing the right thing? You're going to have to use your imagination. I do not talk about him.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Everybody goes, when are you going to be on Club Shay Shay? I was like, I was first. Before it became Club Shay Shay and Chad, they were famous. I went on then because I was like, I see where this train going and this is way before
Starting point is 00:31:00 Cat Williams. I do not want to be anywhere near where this thing's going. So Club Shay and Nightcap, I can say this, this is probably the last time you'll see me publicly. Because they are going
Starting point is 00:31:17 in a totally different stratosphere. And I want to thank Cam Newton. I told Cam backstage, I am very impressed by him because they are a lot alike. And you have to admit, Cam is the largest human being you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Dude is gigantic. And now it's time for you guys, one of you guys' favorite segment, the rail report. Come on out here, Rail. Where's your rail? Where's your rail? Hey, Rail need a mic, right?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Where's Rail mic? That's my mic, Unc. Hey, Rail. Hey, Unc. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. How you doing, Rhea? I'm doing amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:12 You just flew into town today. You know, Rhea sprung in town today. We ain't doing amazing. We fucking beefing. She like, I'm coming. I want to see my man. I've been away from him for a minute, so I'm coming. I came to support.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, she came. Even when we beefing, I still support. Now see, that's what you need, don't you? I mean, listen. Tamara, let me take my glass off. Like, we beefing for real. Like, no bullshit. I ain't talk to real in six, seven days. How many days has it been?
Starting point is 00:32:41 I've been busy. Fuck this shit. I just want y'all to know we beefing for real. He lying. You still love us, though? That's what couples do. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Because I'm mad. What they used to say, scratch your ass and get good? Yes. All right. Right now, you're upset. I'm mad. No bullshit. Animals get mad. Humans get upset.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So right now, you're upset. You have a little disagreement. You know, Rel said it was rainy outside. You said it's 70 and sunny. And y'all have a little disagreement. That's what happens. Couple disagree sometimes. Damn. You think it's going to be great all the time? Any couples out there, Argo? Yeah, they...
Starting point is 00:33:28 I don't know about you. Are you going through it, too? Okay, okay. Hey, holla at me after the show. Oh. Your lady taking a picture, too. So... Oh, I like the pictures. Okay. Look at her I see me
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah look at her She right She aight Ocho Ocho you gotta step on Ocho She aight You better hold on She aight
Starting point is 00:33:53 You better hold on Who Women like Rel They don't come easy Make they own money Got they own Got they own money She can stay
Starting point is 00:34:01 Rel is a stand alone There's not a whole lot of women is a stand alone. There is not a whole lot of women that can stand alone. Rail can carry her own. Right. And I know sometimes, look, I'm a lot older than you, Ocho. And I'm speaking from experience. I'm speaking from experience.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And it's easy, like when you get upset with your partner, and the first thing you go, shit, let me let her know what she effing up with. I'm the dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm an Ocho, man. And I'm motherfucking real. So, with that being said, look, this ain't nothing that we can't overcome.
Starting point is 00:34:46 We family. How about this here? Like, when I go on vacation next year, you and Ray will host Nightcap. You said you want a... I want to be on first take. You going to be on first take? I want to be on first take. You going to be on first take? I want to be on first take. Bro, when I'm going on first take,
Starting point is 00:35:12 when I take my two months off, you would take my two days and your day. No, no, no. I want to come on there with you and Stephen A. Like right now. I ain't on... I'm on Mondays and Tuesdays. Okay, I'm going to come on Mondays and Tuesdays.
Starting point is 00:35:24 No, you take the weekend. You take Thursday and Friday. Ain't nobody watching on Thursday and Friday. Yeah, they do. That's leading into the game. Nah. Nah. But first of all, I don't run first take.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Right. That's something you got to take up with Steve today. All right, don't worry about it. We good, we good, we good. And just so y'all know, this ain't no script. This ain't really the real report is part of the show. But on God, we really beefing. Well, you got to keep reiterating.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Just so they don't think this ain't serious. This shit's serious. We beefing. And I'm mad. Let's give it up for the biggest boss you ever saw, Mr. Rick Ross. Ross! What's happening? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:36:05 What's happening? What's happening? I'm proud of y'all, Mr. Rick Ross. Ross! What's happening, what's happening, what's happening, what's happening? I'm proud of y'all, man. Y'all make some noise for these two right here, man. I had you on the podcast. You were one of my first guests on Club Shay Shay, and you was telling the story how you was always a hustler, that you would, hey, for a little extra money, you was washing cars, but for a little extra money, hey,
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'm going to rearrange your cassettes, I'm going to put them things in there in alphabetical orders, all this, I'm going to do all this stuff. You always had that entrepreneur skill. You always had the ability, the foresight to see, like, you know what? The homie's going to
Starting point is 00:36:41 like this. That's what it's all about. Take it to that next level. Whatever you got going on, whoever your business partners are, surprise them. Take them to that next level. You see, I got my brand up here.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I want to try yours as well, but that's what it's all about. I got my homie Jeremy, Slippery Soap. He in here tonight. So it's just all about always sharing that platform With my team And that's what we do We all see the progress
Starting point is 00:37:09 We all grow You look back a decade later God damn That's dope Listen You gotta think We go way back We go way back
Starting point is 00:37:19 Way back So I'm trying to think When I think about artists today How important do you think It is for them To build their brand the way you have outside of the music industry? But the thing is, you had the success to be able to do it through music, which made the transition that much easier. So how do you answer that question? It's one thing about building a brand, but you got to be good at the first part, that is your profession. Right, right. What but you got to be good at the first part that is your profession
Starting point is 00:37:45 right right what we all got to accept and be realistic about it it's like going to the league everybody won't make it to the hall of fame you being an artist everybody may not know how to go out and um really become that product or sell products it's a lot of huge artists that can sell records but the young kids don't want to dress like them, so they can't sell clothes. They can't sell shoes. Nigga won't even wear they socks. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:16 So everybody can't do everything, but what you do want to make clear is the opportunities that are out there. So if you're a young athlete, you know what I mean? It's the NIL, the game changing right now, but it's all about making sure you understand you are a business. You the CEO of your life. And every day you wake up, you run it just like you would want to run your business. All right, guys, the next guy that's coming to the stage is a Houston rap legend. Hold on. Oh. I got to use the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Boy, you got kidneys like an old person. I got a pee-pee. Go ahead. All right. I'm sorry. Lord have mercy. You see this? See what I go through with this?
Starting point is 00:39:03 He ain't got no mic on. Here we go. You good? You good? I'm feeling it for my homie, Chad. Okay, that's what's up. What's up, everybody? What's up, Houston? What's good?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Did you fly in for this, or are you here now? I'm here. I'm local. My daughter's at Prairie View. Okay. BV going to tour. Bebe! You know!
Starting point is 00:39:31 What's been circulating lately is that Tyreek racing Noah Lyles. Tyreek, I don't know what much more attention that he needs. I mean, he already has enough attention as it is. But he's not beating Noah Lyles. I don't care what it enough attention as it is. But he's not beating Noah Lyles. I don't care what it is.
Starting point is 00:39:48 What it is. We made a bet probably like three years ago. He said he would give me like 10 steps. It was like nine yards, and we raced 100. 100 yards. He barely made up a yard. If I get a good start, I can beat Tyreek. And that's no cap.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's just me being realistic and understanding who I am and what my abilities are. You believe you got a great start. If I get a good start. If you got a speed coach and says, okay, Ocho, we gonna work with you for three months. And at the end of- Ocho?
Starting point is 00:40:19 No, he ain't doing nothing. At the end of those three months, and he says, okay, you race Tyreek. What you want to race him in? A 40, a 60, a 100? What you want to race? He has no chance in the 100 because I'm one of those back-end people.
Starting point is 00:40:31 You want to unwind. Yeah, I pick up at the end. 50, 60, that's very competitive. But if I get a good start, he going to have a problem. He's going to have a problem. But he's not beating Noah Lyles. That's not, have a problem. But he's not beating Noah Lyles. That's not, no. Why do you think
Starting point is 00:40:47 he keeps challenging Noah Lyles? I don't know what much more attention that he needs. I don't know. But it's not possible. He's not about to beat an Olympic gold medalist. In nothing. Ocho thinks he can beat him in a 50. Ocho ain't beating
Starting point is 00:41:04 me in a 50. You slow. Ocho thinks Tyreek can beat Noah Lyles. No, he he can beat him in a 50. Ocho ain't beating me in a 50. You slow. Ocho thinks Tyreek can beat Noah. No, he's not beating him in a 50. Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's about a mindset. As football players, like I said, Tyreek is good football speed. Right. Hands down, he's one of the fastest in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And there are some guys that will probably challenge him on that. Right. He didn't raise DK Metcalf. Mm-hmm. Why? If you're that fast, like, race DK Metcalf. There's Marquise Goodwin who was a track guy, Olympic guy. Why aren't you racing these guys?
Starting point is 00:41:35 Xavier Worthy who just ran the fastest 40. Man, you biting off a little bit more than you can chew when you messing with Noah Lyles. Like, what is it you're trying to get out of this? But you're not beating Noah Lyles. You think he's beating Noah Lyles? Like, what is it? What is it you're trying to get out of this? But you're not beating Noah Lyles. You think he's beating Noah Lyles? I said in the 50 or 60, it'd be close. He's not.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Because he get out so fast. And we've been going at this for years. Yeah. You're not even faster than me. I would admit, you're quicker than me. No, you're not even a better receiver, B. Stop playing with me, boy. I'm Ocho, boy.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It's me, boy. I'm goingcho, boy. It's me, boy. I'm going to go sit over this, on this couch with that. This the yellow jacket couch over here. You know what I mean? Hey, homeboy. Oh, hey, this the yellow jacket couch over here. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You buy yourself a, you know I got love for you. I got a jacket too. I made my own. So look. Hey, it's three. Listen, hold on, hold on. You bought yourself a, you know I got love for you. I got a jacket too, I made my own. So look, I had my own too before I got my real one. Nah, hold on, it's 300 of y'all, that's only one of me, nigga. That's all good, that's good. Nah. Like you said.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And I look better than you. Nah, not happening, not happening, not happening. Hey, our next guest, an iconic figure in the Houston area, a legendary player for the Houston Texans. A Hall of Famer. Who lives in Houston now, don't get it confused, by way of Miami. The GOAT, Andre, the better of the Johnsons. Yes! Actual first player in the Houston Texans to go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:43:28 What did that, when you got the call, and it says, they knock on the door, Andre Johnson, welcome to football heaven, you've been selected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I mean, Shannon, you've had that knock, you know, so I don't think words can really describe it. If you, like, I had to take a moment to literally go sit on my couch, you know, and I had my hands in my head, and I just, you know, to be,
Starting point is 00:44:01 it's been over 30,000 guys that play this game. There's only 378 people in the Hall of Fame. That's not even 1%. That's correct. To be mentioned with that, man, that's special. It's special. Listen, obviously being from Miami, growing up together, did you ever think that the story that we are in control of,
Starting point is 00:44:35 being able to write, would have gotten to where it's gotten now? Hell no. I'm not even going to lie, Chad. Like, you know how we grew up, like, in a neighborhood. We just wanted to be able to provide a better life for our family. Yes, sir. That was always our goal. Like, we just want to make it out. And to have, to get to the level of being a Hall of Famer, like, I never would have
Starting point is 00:45:03 imagined that in a million years, bro. You know, so, I ain't going to lie, man, just having you here and enjoying this with you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appreciate it, appreciate it, appreciate it. A lot of people really don't know, man,
Starting point is 00:45:17 how far we go back, bro. Yeah, way, way back, way back. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it, for those of you that don't know, Dre and I used to train in off-season during our day when we were playing. Me, Tanner Mann, Tony O'Brown, crazy ass. Who else we had out there, man?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Man, it was a lot of us. It was a lot of us. So, you know, it was a certain connection that we all kept, like we was family. You know, obviously we all played on different teams, but everybody from that area, we all got back together, and we always, man, shit, worked our ass off in the offseason, man. And it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You know, as someone that has always looked up to you, even from afar, during the times we were all so close, man, I'm proud of you. I'm really proud of you. Appreciate it. But I'm pretty sure they showed on your highlight clip that fight. Oh, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I knew that was coming, but go ahead. I had only met you once, I came here early in your career, and as a matter of fact, I think, I think Kool was the coach. He was the coach. And you were very quiet, and you're still quite quiet. And I remember that happening. And I'm like, what did this man say to get him? He don't even talk, let alone fight.
Starting point is 00:46:42 What did he say to get you so like, you like, F it, I'm in Liberty City right now. I'm swinging, bro. Nah, it had been going on for about three years. Damn! You done had it build up that long? Yeah. Yeah, it had been going on for about three years.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Man, I never shared this story with nobody, but because we all night, Cap up and give it to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, there we go. So, Chad, you remember club play? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, old Chris style. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So, man, this is no lie. Like, they're driving up to the club. It's my little brother and Rudy. My brother's sitting in the passenger seat. Rudy's in the back seat. And we're all pulling up in valet, and they jump out the car while the car's moving. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And I'm like, what the hell y'all doing they was like there you go so I'm like what are y'all talking about it's Cortland he's standing at the front door of the club right I didn't even see him they wanted to get on him right then and I'm like nah like we're not doing that you know what I'm saying? So that happened like a year prior. So I don't know, man. We was up 20 to nothing. And I told Coop, I was like, hey, man, I'm finna beat his ass. Normally coaches call plays for the player.
Starting point is 00:48:25 The player called a play. Coach, I'm going to beat his ass on one. Ready, break. So that was just it, man. I just had enough of the stuff he was doing. So it was mainly cheap shots, not so much talking. It was the cheap 30s. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:42 The talking, you could talk all day. I don't give a damn about talking. Right. But it was the cheap things he would do at the place. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Y'all cool now? Y'all cool now? I don't know. I ain't never seen, I seen him one time since that whole situation, so I don't, I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:53:28 that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and me now on Audible. Coachy, Coachy, first off, you know, I've been out here, I've been lobbying for a job, and I'm available. So, like, listen, I'm in shape if you need a set of extra legs. We need you. We can get a workout on Tuesday. You ready? Swear to God. Serious, don't do me like that because I'm trying to get out the house. We got somebody that gets you the ball. There we go. That you do.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Go ahead. I got a job, y'all. Coach, in your wildest imagination, when you got drafted to this team at the first round draft pick and win rookie of the year, you have a stellar career. Did you ever imagine that you'd ever come back and be the head coach never never in my lifetime would i have imagined being a head coach of the houston texans the team
Starting point is 00:54:33 that drafted me but it's that it was that surreal moment right it's uh i had other options other teams that were vying but it was like man to go back to Houston where it all started where it all started like struggling a little bit like it meant more to come back home to Houston yeah I don't coach obviously you've been around the game of football for a very long time for those that are on the outside looking in I don't think they understand how special a season that was for you to have obviously you understand the difficulty when you draft a rookie quarterback and understanding you have a program that is trying to build itself back to winning consistently and to be able to have a successful season obviously not winning a championship but still having a successful season knowing that you can
Starting point is 00:55:22 build off of that do you understand how great your season was last year yeah I do understand it all like it all starts with the like you said the rookie quarterback everybody now they expect rookies to come in and just ball out from the start that doesn't happen right like especially at the quarterback position you got to have a special special person to to do that. And, you know, we were fortunate enough to get CJ at number two. And this kid is special. Yes, definitely. Definitely. You know, he's fun to work with.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But and he didn't start off that way. Like we did. We started off with a rough season. Like we had to go through some growing pains. And he learned a lot. Our team learned a lot of how we had to play to win games. And that growing that growth process throughout the season that made it even more special to know we didn't just come out
Starting point is 00:56:10 just beating people and I told our guys too you know we talk about how special of a season it was you look up we had I think it was 10 games that were in the last minute of the game we were right in the game and I think we won seven of those 10 in the last minute of the game. We were right in the game, and I think we won seven of those ten in the last minute of the game. So that just shows the margin for error in this league. It's still tight, even though it's a great season. But, man, I tell our guys, you have to work hard. You got to grind those wins, and you got to be smart
Starting point is 00:56:39 in those situational moments to close games out. Coach, but you understand, You were a rookie head coach. You had a rookie quarterback. The expectations this year, given what happened last year, are a lot different than they were last year going in. You mentioned CJ came in and played unbelievable. Tank Dale,
Starting point is 00:56:57 Nico Collins, you signed us. I mean, you traded for Stephon Diggs. Your defense, Stingley Jr., Will Anderson Jr. What are your expectations from this team? Number one! I hear you. No, I still tell our guys our expectations is just to get better every day. Like, we can't get everybody to know when we suit up like you guys have.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Like, everybody wants to go win it all, right? That's always the goal. That's why we do what we do. Right. We're trying to go get that Lombardi, but we don't get there overnight. So enjoy the process of just getting better every day. And when we look up in February and we're there playing for that Lombardi, that's what's going to make it special. There's something I always wanted to ask you. There was an issue, obviously, with Brian Flores and Tua and the way he talked to him.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Obviously, it rubbed Tua the wrong way. And I just want to know, how do you navigate being able to coach certain players certain ways and how do you approach it? Because some players you can coach hard. You understand those that are built like that. You can coach them a little harder. Some of them you've got to pat them on the back and guide them. How have you been able to do that with your players?
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yeah, man, that's a great question. I was just talking to one of my coaches about that earlier today. Man, you have to have a relationship with guys. Like if you don't have a relationship with guys, then you don't know how that guy is going to respond. Yeah. Right? Some guys I could coach hard.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Some guys I know like, ah, man, I can get it out of him, but I don't need to go as hard with him. I just got to tell him, hey, man, you're doing a great job. Hey, keep it going, young fella. We're going to get there. But if you don't establish that relationship outside of football, like you just got to sit down, you got to eat with guys, you got to meet with guys, just talk to them one-on-one, like what's going on outside of football, like you just got to sit down, you got to eat with guys, you got to meet with guys, just talk to them one-on-one, like what's going on outside of football so you can
Starting point is 00:58:49 really get to know that young man and what's going on in his life. Like that's how you are able to relate to guys and coach. Like now once you get that relationship, I can coach him up hard, right? Right. But everybody, you can't coach hard. Everybody doesn't need hard coaching. But as a coach, it's our job, right? And that's one thing I learned about coaching. I thought, man, when I finished playing, I thought I was going to hop in like, hey, Kyle, I can come coach the linebackers right now. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:16 But that's what I learned when I was at San Fran. I truly learned, like, man, you got every guy is different. How do you teach every guy? Right? Every guy learns different. Every every guy you got to explain things differently and they pick it up different so for me that's where I learned like man you have to be adaptable as a coach right but you gotta know these guys outside of football you know go ahead give it up to a lot of times sometimes coaches try to hide hard coaching behind disrespect. It's like, if I'm working for you, I want you to coach me hard. I want you to say what I'm doing wrong.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But there's a very, very fine line between hard coaching and disrespect. Now, you guys have to understand, that's a grown man you're talking to. This ain't college. He's not trying to get to the NFL. He's already here. He's not in high school trying to get to college. So those guys, you can coach. I mean, when we grew up, coaches cussed us out, cussed all kind of things. You do that now, you're going to turn a guy off.
Starting point is 01:00:18 A guy might want to fight you. He might want to fight you or he might just leave. It's a different different area and I've never like try to cross the lines of cursing guys out I feel like if I have to curse you out like I got the wrong guy correct first off right I don't we don't have time for that like we're men we're working together and I tell our guys my first meeting is like this is what you can expect from our coaches our Our coaches are going to be respectful. They're going to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And they're going to coach everybody in this room, right? Because they care. Your success is their success. So we have to find that common ground to work together for us all to be successful. You played for Coach Saban. I don't know, your high school coach, you played for Coob. What are some of the things, what's D'Amico Ryan's coaching style? Did you take a little bit from Coach Saban?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Because as hard as he is, he does a great job of patting the players on the back, even when they make mistakes. With my coaching style, man, I took a lot from a lot of different coaches that I was around. I think, you know, it all starts from, I spent the most time around Robert Sala, right?
Starting point is 01:01:27 And in that coaching profession, like, I just learned from him, like, man, you got to bring great energy every day, right? And you got to be able to relate to all these guys in the same room. How can you relate to them? Like, storytelling, like, whatever, keeping it light with jokes. Like, it's a fine line, just coaching all the guys. Even Wade Phillips. Wade Phillips, man, he was your head coach.
Starting point is 01:01:53 He would come into the meeting room. Wade would just tell a joke to everybody in the room. And he always told a story about you. Like, hey, man, we had a guy on the scout team. I told him, don't worry about covering him. He's better than the guys that are playing. So it was always Wade found a way in a playful way to get guys' attention, draw guys in.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So I think you draw a man, you get their attention, you relate to the guys, right? Also with Saban, I know he's hard on guys, but the only way you can be hard on him is you got to love him too right right you gotta love him just as hard as your coach man you have to and guys got to know uh for me I had a a strength and conditioning coach he called me as soon as I got up into coaching he was like D'Amico players do not care how much you know until you they know how much you care about them, right?
Starting point is 01:02:46 And so that was the one thing that's always stuck to me. Like, I tell our guy, man, I care about you as a man, first and foremost. It's football. We're going to get to the football. I'm going to correct you. I'm going to coach you up. But, man, I care about you as a man being successful after football is over. Like, I want you to be a great husband, great father, great leader in the community,
Starting point is 01:03:06 because that's what's going to last. Your approach to the game of football, obviously when you played, I'm not sure if you had any superstitions or not. As for myself, there was a certain routine that I stuck to, and to me, I felt this routine that I stuck to during my playing days would probably give me the success that I wanted, despite putting in the work throughout the week. Now that you're a coach and you play, obviously, do coaches have routines and superstitions once you get to that point as a leader of men? Or you just allow the work that you put in during the week to take care of itself?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Yeah, I think you fall into those kind of superstitions. You kind of fall into them because it's like, oh, man, we smoked them this week. Whatever I did, whatever I ate last week, whatever I listened to on the way to the state, like, run it all back, right? But I don't believe in that. That's the reason why, right? I think you just get into a habit. But I don't believe in that. That's the reason why. I think you just get into a habit, but I don't believe in the superstitions. But sometimes you get off.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It's routine. It's routine. It's a routine a lot of coaches fall into, whether it's working out before the game, running stadiums, or hitting the treadmill, certain things. For me, my deal is I'm watching film up until the last minute before I have to go out like I'm trying to find another advantage like I'm looking at third down again I'm looking at two minute for as long as I can they come not hey coach we got to go it's like I'm trying to get that edge up until the last minute we're talking the Rooney rule there's a lot about that and you
Starting point is 01:04:42 had great success were Were you ever concerned because you see so many black coaches like go 10, 15 years before they even get an opportunity to go interview for a head coach? You didn't have to wait that long. You had about a two year, maybe two year, once you became the DC at San Francisco, your name immediately went into that pool. So you didn't have to wait long. How do you tell your brethren, fellow black coaches, like just to be patient when some of them have been patient for 10, 15 years? Yeah, no, that's, you know, I think for me being in the position I am, man, I'm standing on the shoulders of guys who paved the way before me.
Starting point is 01:05:21 A lot of coaches who grinded and they didn't get that opportunity I know one coach in particular you know coach Bobby Turner yep you know coach Turner that was my role model I was there in San Fran that's the guy I looked up to the OG like he's been coaching for over 30 years and he never got that opportunity and more i know he deserved the opportunity so i always tell coach turner man i love you i thank you for you provided me this opportunity to become a head coach and when i became a head coach like man i got to do this for you right coach t i got to be successful for you and it's the same thing i tell all other guys like man i'm representing a lot of a lot of, right, who are still trying to get that opportunity,
Starting point is 01:06:09 a lot of guys who are coming after me to get that opportunity, and I just want to represent the right way. Yeah. That's a good thing about it. The fact that we get so few opportunities to be a leader of black men, be in a position of power, does it add any more pressure to you as a head coach? Or do you just don't even think about it and just do what you need to do? It doesn't add pressure to me because I know at the end of the day, it's about doing the job the right way, right? It's surrounding myself with the right people, right coaching staff, the right players. Like it's not just about me.
Starting point is 01:06:39 It's about my entire support staff, everybody in that building helping me to be successful where I can't do it by myself. So it doesn't add any pressure to me. It's just, I know, I know the task at hand and it's just about us going out, dominating the process every day, being as, as good as we can be every single day, getting a little bit better. And we're going to, the wins, the results, all that stuff will show up when we work the right way i think the question that everybody wants to know you and ocho still beefing god damn right he is in time out i don't know why he act like i'm in a dog house but he's in the dog house nah we beefing you know what it's something that's really funny you know how you you look
Starting point is 01:07:22 at instagrams you look at twitter you look at just pictures in general when it comes to couples. You ever notice how they always show you the good? Everybody's always smiling. Everybody's always fucking happy. They don't never tell you about the motherfucking ups and the motherfucking downs. Why you got to curse so much? Why you got to curse so much? Because I'm mad.
Starting point is 01:07:41 My daddy is in the audience. I'm trying to share my experience to let you know that it ain't always fucking happy. It ain't always fucking smiling. She make me fucking mad. And I love her, right? I love her. That's my dog. But she in the dog house.
Starting point is 01:08:00 What if you love her, give her a kiss? Uh-uh. I don't know why. I'm in the dog house. Well, if you love her, give her a kiss. Uh-uh. I don't know why. I'm in the dog house. I can't kiss him. I got chapstick on. And he been smoking cigars. He been smoking cigars.
Starting point is 01:08:17 You don't like cigars? It's funny. When we met, when we met, I was smoking cigars. It wasn't no problem. And it wasn't no problem. But you brushed your teeth and you had a mint
Starting point is 01:08:25 in the back of your mouth. Now you got complacent. Right. And you think you're supposed to just kiss on me without doing all that. So that's not love. That is love.
Starting point is 01:08:35 That's not love. If I got to do all this extra stuff. You was doing the extra shit when we first met. But I got you now so what's the point? That's why you're here.
Starting point is 01:08:44 So crazy thing is, Chad has always been my celebrity crush. Okay. Like... Ah, girl! We're going to have a good time.
Starting point is 01:08:56 No, he's always been my celebrity crush. Like, if I would describe the perfect man, it was him. Chocolate. Chocolate. would describe the perfect man it was him chocolate pretty smile right go go into detail tell me some so you see the hard eyes how long did it take him to respond? Was it immediately? Was it a day? Was it two days? Less than five seconds.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Damn, Ocho! I just happened to have my phone in my hand. My phone was in my hand. But it wasn't five seconds, it was about 30 seconds. It was five seconds. Because I had to scroll through the pictures first and make sure she was when she was, and I saw the feet.
Starting point is 01:09:42 And you saw the feet? I saw the feet. And that's the only reason we're together is because I seen the feet. You know, I'm a foot guy. Yeah, I know. I really can't help myself. You a lot of guy. Yeah. Anything to end the O.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Toe, elbow. Booty, no. Yeah, yeah. All that. Yeah, so I seen the feet. I answered so fast. Boom. And how long?
Starting point is 01:10:03 Maybe two days? So how long did it take y'all? Okay, you said the hard eyes he responds up damn near immediately so how long before you guys actually met face to face it was about four weeks three and a half closer hold the mic hold the mic closer it was about three and a half weeks okay she lied no I'm not I'm serious for real yeah three and a half weeks I don't I don't I don't remember the story like that. I got the time stamps. It was three and a half weeks.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Three and a half weeks. I was trying to come sooner, but the time frame wouldn't. So three and a half weeks, we went to Green Bay. You went to him or he came to you? I went to him. Okay. Oh, child. Oh, child.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yes, you did. okay yes we went to Green Bay we talked and I was actually surprised because the guy who I thought I knew was a different person yeah he spoke a lot very intellectual thought I was dealing with a you you know, a hood. Yeah. I could be hood. I could have a switch. No, he switched it up on me. Right. And we connected just like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I tried to be, I tried to be a gentleman. Right. You know, the first time. Yeah. Coming in town. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Open the door, you know, where you want to go. Daddy is here. So hush. Oh no, Papa can know. Daddy cover your ears.
Starting point is 01:11:24 You know, she came to green bay i was working doing my stuff with ea uh the game it was the packers and whatever whoever i think the bears okay that's like well i get your room it's like no no i'll stay with you i was like okay no you was like i'll sleep in the living room i said i'll sleep in the living room just so you're comfortable like i ain't fly here for nothing. I mean. That's what I'm talking about. Real. Y'all see. Man, listen.
Starting point is 01:11:47 We both grown adults. I mean, we grown, right? Yes. Yeah. And from that day on, we ain't separate. So we coming up on five years. Coming up on five years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And the wedding is planned for February 25, right? 2-2-2-25, yes. 2-2-2-25. So. 2-2-2-25. So all the twos equal eight in the year 585. Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, yeah. Our next guest coming to the stage
Starting point is 01:12:16 is Dallas born and bred and raised. Let's give it up, Yellow Beezy. Doing what you did, because for me, like, all I want to do is make money to get my grandmother get my family out of that environment i mean i really didn't think about like 70 80 thousand fans cheering for me that wasn't what i really wanted i wanted i wanted the fortune the fame i could i could have done without but obviously that's a part of it is it everything
Starting point is 01:12:38 that you imagine that when you like in your bed and you're thinking about man i'm going on this journey and one day i'm gonna be 60 70 000 in a in a stadium not arena a stadium is it everything you thought it would be yeah like it's like a bittersweet feeling because like you pray for a lot of stuff and then when you actually live in your dream bro like you got to understand like it's a lot of people out here praying to be in your position you know I'm saying it's a lot of people been chasing dreams 30 40 years and they seen no success with it so I'm one of them that can actually say that I made it so every chance that I get but I'm gonna pray about it I'm gonna thank God and be grateful for everything because like it's a lot of people that want to be in my position yeah what are some of the things that came along with
Starting point is 01:13:25 this fame that you came with that you didn't expect uh yeah for sure a lot of hate a lot of everything it's one of those situations like damn if you do damn if you don't and it's like one of those situations where you gotta just really just you gotta be built
Starting point is 01:13:41 for it cause a lot of people if you're not built for this like success success will turn you down too that's that's the side that they don't tell you like there's a lot of credit like they're gonna critique everything you're gonna you do they're gonna think whatever they think about you know I'm saying if you want to change the narrative you can but at the same time you gotta have tough skin because people gonna hate they're gonna be jealous they're gonna envy you they're gonna just say anything that and if you let it get to you like it'll turn a motherfucker down like Like, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't never been a type that'll let it turn me down.
Starting point is 01:14:08 But I didn't know it was going to be, like, so much bullshit, like, to come along with it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Yes. The funny thing, with the bullshit, it only happens because of success. So now that you have the success, what has continued to inspire and motivate you to continue to want to climb that mountain and ladder in your craft I just want to shit on motherfuckers who don't think
Starting point is 01:14:29 it's still in me everybody that hate it I'm glad y'all hating on me I'm glad that you feel like it's something sweet cause I love proving motherfuckers wrong like I'm here for a reason you know what I'm saying like God ain't bringing me this far just to turn his back on me so I damn sure ain't finna let no motherfucker tell me like otherwise you know what I'm here for a reason, you know what I'm saying? Like, God ain't bringing me this far just to turn his back on me.
Starting point is 01:14:45 So I damn sure ain't finna let no motherfucker tell me, like, otherwise. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. Listen, you've collaborated with some dope-ass major artists. Is there one person you haven't had a chance to collab with that you want to besides me? I got to get one with the light-skinned nigga, man. Drake, I got you bro
Starting point is 01:15:05 it's just we gotta we you know dark skin y'all you know y'all I'm dark at heart but you know y'all y'all y'all been picking on us since we was you know since the beginning of the time so I gotta I gotta do one in the 80s though in the 80s y'all ran the 80s yeah I probably yeah I ain't
Starting point is 01:15:21 gonna lie I definitely would have been shitting on y'all in the 80s I ain't gonna lie I would have had a different type of attitude. Michael Jackson, Prince, El DeVos. Yeah, they go quick. Yeah, y'all had them all. I would have had a perm and everything. Hey, we best probably got Michael Jordan, Wesley Snipes. It was over for y'all.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah. We don't talk about the charts. Denzel. Denzel. Come on, man. What are the yellow niggas at? But nah. Got to be Drake.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I want to do one with Nicki. Okay. I want to do some Afro Beach, too, like with Burner Boy. I want to get on Rihanna, too. I ain't going to lie. And Vibe Quartel just came home. I mean, shout out to him. I want to do one with Vibe.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I want to do something with just everybody, bro. I ain't going to lie to you. You know what? Think about the names he just named, right? Right. Like some of the biggest in the world. Man, what's the process? Like, do you get a phone and be like, hey, I got something.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I want to send it to you. I want to work with you. How does that work? I really think that go off like relationships. Like you've got to be at the right place at the right time. I tell people all the time, a relationship is worth more than money. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Like certain shit you just can't buy. Like people just got to be at the right place at the right time. I tell people all the time, a relationship is worth more than money. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Like, certain shit you just can't buy. Like, people just got to want to fuck with you genuinely. And that's why I get, like, a lot of my features. Like, people be thinking, like, I know he paid for this, he paid for that. But I don't be paying for nothing. Like, niggas literally be looking out for me just off the strength. Just because of who I am and what type of genuine soul I have. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:42 Which is a blessing. You know what I'm saying? I don't be thinking, like, I'm going to get it for free. Just, nigga, I fuck with you. It would really be fucking me up, though, you know what I'm saying? Which is a blessing, you know what I'm saying? I don't be thinking like I'm going to get it for free. Just, nigga, I fuck with you. It would really be fucking me up, though, you know what I'm saying? But relationship is being solid, having a good face card to take a motherfucker far in life. Our next guest coming out, Eric Kendricks. Tell us about the transition to becoming a cowboy.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Crazy. What's it been like? It's different, you know. Football is crazy out here. You know, football is crazy out here. You know, I hear about Texas football. I'm from California. Right. There's good football out there, but, you know, football is different in Texas, for sure.
Starting point is 01:17:12 It's a little bit more, you know, heightened. A little bit more pressure. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Play for the Vikings, the Seahawks, if I'm not mistaken. No, my brother played for the Seahawks. Okay, that's your brother. But I played for the Chargersikings the seahawks if i'm not mistaken my brother played with seahawks but i played for the chargers yeah you're reunited with them right so what's what so how has being reunited with a former coach because obviously you know this defense and so
Starting point is 01:17:39 you've been able to partake some of the wisdom the keys of where guys need to be what zim is looking for in a particular defense so tell us about somewhat being a coach on the field yeah you know I feel like at first you know we're all trying to learn the basics you know I mean obviously I have a little bit of a head start but everybody's learning the basics you know we're trying to get the concepts down they kind of carry over to different coverages you know we can run split coverages things like that but you know I feel like with Zim's defense is always about like you know the player is taking a little bit of ownership too you know i mean we have to be at we're we're the ones that are quarterbacking it out there so you know at some point you know we got to be the one making the calls and checks and be confident and when we're doing so
Starting point is 01:18:16 and i feel like now that's you know we we obviously we're in camp for a month and stuff like that but now we're transitioning we're about to play this first game and i feel like now we're starting to transition into having that confidence where everybody's kind of like okay we're running this now let's run this now you know um so it's been a lot of fun and you know obviously we have different pieces than i had in minnesota but um you know the the heart of the the heart of the um the scheme is the same you know listen zim was the defensive coordinator of cincinnati when i was there so zim is really cool he cursed a goddamn lot he cursed a lot but what is your expectations your personal goals for you throughout this season or this upcoming season your own personal goals my
Starting point is 01:18:56 personal goals is to be you know the the just the the voice that everyone can count on you know the just the you know the constant communicator you know, be overdoing my communication to the fact that we're all on the same page. You know, I want to definitely be the anchor right there. But shoot, you know, I just want to just keep stacking these years. I feel like, you know, 100 plus, you know, three and something, you know, I don't want to, you know, get too specific. I write them down and everything like that. But, you know, I want to win a Super Bowl, man. You know, it's cliche, but, you know, I want to win a Superbowl, man. That's why you play. You know, it's, it's cliche, but you know, my brother won one, right. I got kind of close, but you know, not really, you know, so I want to, I want to get it. I want to get it going.
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