Nightcap - Nightcap - Best of the Rest Part 1: Shedeur Pissed at Giants Pre-Draft Interview + Draymond Green Fires at Dillon Brooks

Episode Date: May 10, 2025

Recap the best clips of the week as Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Shedeur Sanders reportedly being pissed at the New York Giants pre-draft interview, Warriors star Draymond Green calling out Rockets forward Dillon Brooks, and much more!01:38 - Draymond calls out Brooks for not shaking his hand08:41 - JPP had $400k watch stolen12:30 - Marlon Humphrey on breakfast food15:25 - 100 americans vs 100 british people18:34 - Shedeur supposedly pissed at the Giants30:51 - Ravens rookie kicker33:45 - Most Toxic Fan Bases in College Football(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Draymond Green calls out Dylan Brooks for not shaking anyone's hand after the game. Draymond labels him a sucker and says nobody respects him. Ryan, that's your guy. You call, you rock his game. You got to defend his action. I love Dylan Brooks. Dylan's going to do what he wants to do.

And at the end of the day, when these two personalities collided, I don't think we would have expected anything less with Dylan Brooks and Draymond. And the unique part about Draymond, shout out to Dray, by the way. I like you later. I didn't like you a couple of days ago.

And I'm still sore over that game seven. He is able to play the game and then pop on his podcast the next day and talk his trash. He don't got to wait for the media. He don't got to do it in the presser. You have to come to him. And he's not reliant on scoring. So he can back it up with his defense.

He can back it up with his defense. He can back up with his IQ. Draymond, I played against you. I know your brother. All the flails and all the stuff. They're calculated. They're smart. When his team needs something, he brings it to the table.

Tonight, he had three or four three-pointers as soon as Steph Curry stepped off the floor from a point total. So back to him and Dylan Brooks. Dylan has been unbelievable for Houston, Houston's culture, what he brings to the table. It's a toughness and an energy, and he's a villain. He plays that role. And you know what?

Draymond going to defend Steph. He said what he said about Steph and the presser. That's who Dylan Brooks is, and we love him and embrace him. And, again, with those two personalities, I expect nothing less. Oh, yeah. I agree. They're kind of alike, really. I mean, obviously, Draymond is more accomplished.

He's asked to do more. Steph is the most likable person on the planet, man. He's the most likable on the planet. It's hard to dislike him. Because you know why, Ryan, I think everybody likes him? Because he's the common man. You can see, like, man, he ain't 6'9". He ain't 7 foot.

He ain't got shoulders like Dwight Howard. He's just like a common man. Most guys, LeBron is 6'9". Most of the guys are hulking. 100%. And so I can't beat him. Man, Steph Curry look like a guy walking down the street. And he's so likable.

You saw his daughter. She was on his lap. Riley, we fell in love with Riley. Aisha, they do a great job. We got kids, you know, everything. So it's just hard to dislike him. You're like, man, I don't like – no, I like Golden State. I just don't like Draymond.

I'm saying that's how people look at it. Man, I love Golden State. If they have Draymond, I really like him. But I'm not so sure if they didn't have Draymond, they could be Golden State that we know of today. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. Oh, he's so smart.

Listen, I think it was game two, and it was game two or game one, and our guys were going on the run. All of a sudden, man, he just put somebody to the floor. Our guys were like, you know what's up? You know, we're building energy. The game had a flow. He just messed the flow up, dog. Like, but he knows.

Listen, and they're baiting him on the internet because they realize this is the craziest thing I've ever seen in a contest. Draymond does, I forget what he does. He gets a technical foul, right? Whoop, whoop, tech. So now we're up there calling the game. We're going, he gets one more. He's gone.

Tari, heason picks his pockets. Tari's about to go down and score. We start a fast break. Draymond leg kicks Tari Eason. Tari goes down. And Draymond pretends like his feet fall into Tari's head. And we love Tari, by the way. So this is just basketball.

And the refs look at him. We we're like, he's gone, finally. He's out, it's over. The referee came for the table and said, that's a flagrant one. Two technicals and you're gone. But if you have a flagrant and a technical, only Draymond would know that. So the first one was unsportsmanlike. The second one was excessive contact. But it wasn't the criteria to be a flagrant, too.

And only Draymond was going to a game knowing I've got two Mulligans to play with and I'm going to do whatever it takes for my team to win. And that's the type of guy. You normally get that, Chad, from the European players. Right. They grab you where they're not supposed to grab you. They elbow you. They spit and everything. They do the dirty stuff.

But Draymond had just figured that out from the standpoint of like, what do I need to do to be on the floor? There was nothing sexy about it. Draymond was a center in college. When he came into the league, we had seven footers. Draymond got the worst name you can get from a draft report, a tweener.

You remember that name? A tweener. A tweener is a good name now because it's a – I was a tweener. You were a tweener? Yeah. They said I was too big to play wide receiver. I was too small to play tight end.

No position. So Draymond was a tweener. So that's a good thing now, but he won seven feet and he couldn't handle the ball, per se, well enough or shoot the ball to play on the wing. So he made a name for himself. You know what I'm saying? He made a name for himself and he's done enough and it's

unbelievable, honestly. Yeah, I was too big and too slow to play wide receiver Ocho, but I was too small to play tight end. I did okay. I found... You only 6'2"? Huh. You only 6'2"? You only 6'2"? 6'2", yeah. I played it like 228.

Y'all football numbers be lying. Chad all about 5'11". You ain't 6'3", Chad. I'm legit 6'2". I'm 6'3", man. What you talking about? You ain't seen me in a while. Chad, you get on the court with me again, I'm putting them elbows in your face. Let me tell you3", man. What you talking about? You ain't seen me in a while. Chad, you get on the court with me again,

I'm putting them elbows in your face. Let me tell you that, man. Man, listen. I went nice to you. I went nice to you last time. Don't go to Ryan. Hey, listen. Everybody that has played in the NBA,

including current players right now, everybody has tried to play me, and everybody has lost. Let me tell you something. If you want me to add you to the hit list, I can add you to the hit list. Let me tell you something. We on the set of ESPN and he talked

crazy to me and I'm like, man, whatever. We in the segment. Next thing I know, they done cleared the desk out. Me and him playing one-on-one. I turn it around. Chad just tackled me, bro. We can't play the football. He grabbed my arm. Chad, next time I'm giving you elbows so running around. Chad just tackled me, bro. We can't play the football. Go ahead. He grabbed my arm. He do it.

Chad, next time I'm giving you elbows so you ain't got no trash to talk. And then, you know, he gonna talk. Westbrook couldn't beat me. LeBron couldn't beat me. I said, Chad, come on, bro. Chad, come on. All of them. Nobody. None of them. None of them. Well, he and Joe

got a bad two. He say he want Joe one-on-one. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I'm playing football rules. I'm playing. That's fine. I've been in the gym. Whatever you want to do. Elbow, elbows, you know, it don't matter.

I'm good. Hey, Jake, this is our guys. Jason Pierre Paul had his luxury Richard Mille watch stolen while attending F1 Formula One weekend party in Hollywood, Florida. JPP said he felt something fall off when a group of men boxed him while he tried to

move through the packed club. Moments later, when a friend asked what time was it, he realized his 400 grand Richard Mill was gone. Some bold boys. JPP about 6'5", just 6'5", 270, right? Yeah.

JPP be dead. We're missing a couple of appendages. Stop. Stop, dog. Stop. Stop. Stop. But you know what? Ocho.

But you know what? But you know what, Ryan, in all seriousness, that's a strap on watch. So it's easy to get off as opposed to one like, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? It depends on what you have. My RM6702 is the Velcro. Oh, that's easy to get off.

Yes, it's easy to get off. Somebody touch you, but you would feel something like that coming off. He said he felt like something dropped off. So how could you not look? Oh, he felt something. Okay, okay. I know they ain't taking off. It's a big man right there. I know they ain't taking off.

So that's what he did, Ocho. Hey, Ocho, you know how you get Hey, you try to, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, and them jokers done got it off you. Nah, nah, nah, nah. You know, you remember the movie? What's the movie with Margaret, Margaret Robie and Will Smith? Margaret Robie. Margaret Robie. What was the movie? What's the movie with Margaret Robie and Will Smith?

Margaret Robie. Margaret Robie. What was the movie? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were stealing stuff? Focus. Yeah, focus. That sounds like something out of a movie.

Hey, they touch it right here, and they're stealing something from over there. Yeah, you could feel somebody taking something off your wrist. Oh, Joe. Man, hey, you go to some of them foreign countries over, Joe, and them jokers have that cardboard. They become the eggs. Hey, back up. Now, what do you do that is stolen? Insurance?

Yeah, insurance. That's all you can do. Yeah, yeah. He got that good insurance. He got that good insurance. I hope he got insurance. Yeah, he got to. He got to.

I'm going to report that. JPP is a dog, bro. That's one of my favorite dogs. But you know what? But you know what? It ain't. I don't care. Man, look, I've had stuff stolen.

It ain't the same. It ain't. It ain't. Even when you get your money back? No, because here's the thing. For me, those watches, each watch that I bought, it symbolized something because I was at a place where I had to take two, three years in order to get it. Get it.

Now I can just go get it. It don't have the same meaning. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? When you save up and get that first Rolex or you save up and you get your first Patek, it's different. Right. And now, you know, you just go get it. I mean, watches, I mean, I like watches, but it

doesn't have the same meaning I had 30 years ago when it was like, man, I saw that. And I got like, okay, in two years, I'm going to save me enough money, do an autograph, do an appearance here, do an autograph sign in there, Ocho. I'm going to get that. I'm going to get that Day-Date

blackface diamond bezel. I'm going to get that. I'm going to get that Day-Date, Blackface, Diamond Bezel. I'm going to get that. Nah, I mean, you go just get a watch. I mean, because, you know, you make good money. It ain't the same to me. I mean, somebody like, hey, Patek, AP, Vacheron, you know, FP Jean. Marlon Humphrey had a wild take this week. He tweeted, breakfast

food is so weak. I've been skipping it and waiting until what restaurants open earliest for lunch. Nah, I'm a breakfast guy. Yeah, I'm a breakfast guy too. He tripping. Every morning, I got three places. Either I'm going to McDonald's to get my usual,

I'm going to IHOP to get my two for two, or I go to First Watch. Oh, but I got another one. I got another one too, Uncle. If you ever come down here in Miami, you too, Ryan. Y'all got to try Just Spoons. Hey, man, answer your phone when I hit you,

Chad. Don't tell me to hit you. I got a new number. No, you don't. Answer your phone when I hit you, Chad. I got you. I do have a new number. Hey, a new number. No, you don't. It's your phone. Text me, dog. It's your phone when I hit you, Chad. I got you. I do have a new number. You hit Chad. What's up, man?

What you need? Oh, okay. Okay. Nah, I got you. I love breakfast, though. I'm a pain. I love, you know, I love grits. Right.

Eggs. Bacon crispy. If it's going to be sausage, it's going to be sausage patties. Right. Pancakes. I take pancakes over French toast. It'd be pancakes first, French toast second, a waffle third. I'm not a big waffle guy because they get soggy too quick. I mean, I can do eggs Benedict, but it's not a must-have.

But scrambled eggs, grits, bacon or sausage, I'm in. Y'all not going to like me. I've been fasting for breakfast. Hey, hold on. I just thought about it. Boy, you been to Grits Cafe yet? Where is that at? Man, right where you at?

What you talk about? I'm going to have to go to it then. Grits Cafe, you heard of that? Man, hey, I guarantee you, all jokes, let me take my glasses off so you know I ain't bullshitting. I guarantee you love Grits Cafe. I bet you that. And everything you just named, they got.

I mean, I used to go like during the week in Atlanta. The Ritz-Carlton used to have breakfast. Buffet for them grits. Hold on. I started high. That guy one time would just make breakfast. Say, look here, bro. I just need you to break breakfast like four days a week. Grits Cafe is us, though.

It's us. You get what I'm trying to say? I'm going to check it out. What you saying, Jared? I'm going to check it out. What you trying to say, Jared? Hey, I'm trying to say it's'm going to check it out. What you saying, Chad? I'm going to check it out. What you trying to say, Chad? Hey, I'm trying to say it's us.

What's us? Yeah. If they cooking grits, I'm pretty sure it is us. Okay, okay, yeah, there you go. There you go. Yeah. Because everybody can't cook grits now, Ocho. Oh, no. Absolutely not.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, they give you these croissants to go with before the breakfast come? Yeah. Hold on. That's in L.A.? No. No. I will tell y'all a fair.

We don't want everybody inundating it. All right. All right, Ocho. We had the 100 men versus the gorilla. Now they got another one. 100 Americans versus 100 British people. Who's winning? Check out this video.

100 British people versus 100 Americans fist fight. No weapons. I want to make it more interesting. The British people get 20 savages from Birmingham, London, Manchester, Nottingham, and Liverpool. And the Americans get 20 savages from Louisiana, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, and where else? Texas. Who wins that fight? Let me know in the comments section. You know, I'm sweating.

No weapons and you can't sneak in no shranks either. No guanjin. I'm sweating. Leave it in the comments section. Let me know. Boyoy. I think America's going to beat the hell out of y'all. Who?

I think America's going to win. I mean, I... You know what? It's going to be Roddy, because you know a lot of them from Birmingham and where he named Ireland, they soccer fans, man. They be on one of those. They don't play.

They don't play. They die about soccer. Yeah. They are fans, man. They're beyond one, Ocho. They don't play. They die about soccer. They are willing to die. Anybody that's willing to die about a sport, they don't play. We already beat them, Ocho. How you think we became America?

Ta-da! Ta-da! Yeah. I mean, damn. That's a good one. So we good. Hey, bro, we good. We already one up.

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He didn't catch them and got called out. He was pissed that they didn't they did that to him now before we get into this Ocho I told you you and I had a conversation I said Ocho unless teams tell us what their draft grade is on Shador then and only then can we the Cleveland Browns says we didn't have a first or a second day grade on. I mean a first day grade on. Right. They said that. So unless the other 31 teams come out and tell you Ocho man I don't know what

okay. I had this grade on. Some teams say they had him as a third a third day option. Right. Albert and Ocho we were talking. I said normally Joe what they do with the quarterback they're bringing in the quarterback they'll send plays and look, okay, here's the plays we want you to break them that want you

to diagram. Blah, blah, blah. Or they'll get you in, says, okay, here's the play. Two jet, flanker drive, red right, two jet, flanker drive. Okay? Z motion. So, the Z is the flanker.

He got the drive route. Tight end in got the basic cross we're gonna run we can run the dig we can run uh we can run a dig or we could just have the uh uh the x run a post to clear it out to make sure ain't nobody you know backside and then you know got the rim right got the uh the back check it so we tell you that okay we tell you tell you, okay, what happens if you get this front, this here is where you go with the ball. You get this covered, you go here with the ball. So now, Ocho, you know the play is long. Now they got this, Red Ryde, Yogi, Sample, X-Men, the birds, the this, the that.

So they tell the quarterback this. Now they show it to him on the board. Then it goes dark. They say, okay, good, you ought to play on the board. And they want you to regurgitate what you sold. Because as a quarterback, you have to have great recall. Because if they call that downplay, Joe, in your helmet, you got to regurgitate it.

Plus, you got to know, if I get this coverage, I go here. If I get that coverage, I go here. If I get hot, I go here. If I get that coverage, I go here. If I get hot, I go here. But a lot of times, they're like, you know, we want you to be a quarterback. Now, knowing what you've heard, Cleveland Browns said we didn't have

a day one grade on him. We had more like a fourth or fifth, you know, fourth or fifth round grade on him. Okay, fine. The Giants sent him plays to install, intentionally put mistakes in. He didn't catch the mistakes. They told him.

He got upset that they didn't tell him. Ocho, what's your thoughts? I mean, listen, I understand teams have to do their just due when it comes to these meetings, these interviews, going over plays and having installs and having quarterbacks go up and explain plays. There are a lot of people, Unc, that play the game of football that can go into these meetings and these interviews and ace them. They can point out every mistake. They can do everything right. And you turn on the film, they sorry than a motherfucker.

They sorry as hell. Can't play a lick of ball, but they're great. They're great in the film room. They're great in, it comes to drawing up plays, but when it's time to play where it actually matters, on game day on Sunday at one o'clock, they're horrible.

We know what you get with Shador when he plays the game of football on Sunday. We watched him do it at Jackson State. We watched him do it in high school. We watched him do it at a very bad institution and turning that program around in Colorado. Yep. So what you're telling me about him not knowing and him missing mistakes on something you purposely tried to trip him up on, okay, he didn't see it.

He didn't see it. But I know what I get on the field. Why even play this game? What game are we playing? What are you proving by purposely putting mistakes in there? He's a rookie. He's coming in.

He's young. Of course he's going to miss it. Of course he's going to miss stuff like that. Who wouldn't at the position? Yeah, that's not his plays. You know, if you were to give you the game, his plays at Colorado and then try to slip that in, because that BP, my position coach in Denver

would do that sometimes. And I was like, you know, I was like, no, this is not a 70. This is a 50 protection. 50 protection, you know, I'm in blocking. So 70 protection, I'm free to go. So who you call to play knowing, you know, and we had live colors, you know, blue Detroit. That's a live color. You know, we get a stretch.

We get over what we call a bare front, a bare stretch or a Navajo. We call it Navajo. Some people call it – Joe, I've been teaching a little football. When you have the center and both guards cover, that's called a bare front. Yeah. Now, if you want to stretch it, we put somebody over the tight end and we put the defensive end outside. That's called a bear stretch.

The 85 Bears made that defense famous. That's a Buddy Ryan defense. So bear. Both guards center covered. That's a bear defense. Now you stretch it. You put somebody over the tight end. You put the defense outside.

So that's a four-down lineman. And they found out the way you beat that defense because what teams were trying to do, they was trying to take the tight end and block Richard Dent. Oh, Richard. Uh-uh. Bad idea. Hold on.

And so if you did that, if you went out to blocking, the guy over you would come hit your quarterback in the back of his head. So they said, huh, how about we do this? We fake like we're going to block this guy. When he see that, he's going to come. We just raise up and throw you the ball. Or what we do, we'll slide it or we'll molly the protection. We'll take the tackle, we'll kick to him,

or we'll take the guard to molly out to him. They started blocking it up people got out of the bear defense uh because you're one-on-one joe no so you said why play these games why why are we doing okay you know how about just have the man regurgitate the play yeah draw it up okay here it is it's your door this is one of our best plays right here is this da da da da da okay you see this coverage? Where you going with the ball? If the coverage was such a – if the coverage – this is cover one.

Single high safety. Now, if we had quarters coverage or if we wanted to cover six, what we call cover six, Joe, we play quarters on one side. We play cover six half the field on the back side. Six kick, that means we press on the two side. Oh, Joe, that's what the kick come in but we play in quarters one side half the field the other side that's why we call it six two four six okay now go should do a call to play you go into the line of scrimmage now i done told

you i done gave you three names just what we you three names. This is where we go with cover one. This is where we go with quarters. This is where we go with cover six. Go to the cover. You call it. It's cover one. It's cover one. Blue 17. No, no, no. It's six. It's six. It's six. Boom. You see how chaotic

it get? Yeah. Quarterback got to remain calm. Yeah. Because they joshing around. Ocho, you know, they started one thing. They dealing, dabbling around. They rock and rolling. They're safe.

They're safe. They're 2D. Now here he come. No, they shoot back the other way. You remember how the Steelers held Troy Palomaro. At the line of scrimmage. And the next thing you know, hell, he in the hole. Right where he's supposed to be at, yep.

So that, and I get it, but look, hey. I mean, look, when you turn the film on, Uncle Ocho, when you're watching Shador, like, for me, it's like the film shows the poise and patience that he has in the pocket. Although, you know, everybody say, you know, his line wasn't great. I thought he showed tremendous poise and patience.

Yes. And I feel like his talent will show in game situations. You got some guys, man, who are just performers, bro. They just know how to perform. I've seen guys who wasn't great practice players, but, man, you put them in the game, they know how to perform. And I feel like that's what his talent will show. I think he'll get his opportunity.

I think he'll get in there and he'll get a chance to show what he can do and his talents will be on display. But I think he's getting a knock for not having the athletic paralysis that his daddy has. Yeah. And it's just not who he is as an athlete. Yeah. He has the opportunity.

I think it's a blessing in disguise. The Browns have struggled on trying to find a quarterback since Bernie Kosar and finding someone consistent, someone that can be a quarterback for that franchise for a decade straight. And I think God put him in this position and sending him to Cleveland on purpose to give him that drive and that hunger not that not that not that he didn't have it

already but the purpose of giving that driving hunger to show everyone that passed on him and obviously show the Cleveland Browns that you made the right decision in bringing me here so I'm I'm happy for him despite you you know, what happened, you know, having to go in the fifth round. I don't know. I think it probably done lit a fire upon him. He's going to be all right. He's going to be all right because he's definitely going to be there.

He's going to be there everybody out. He's going to be there everybody out. He might not be Flacco out, but if Flacco struggles at some point this season, they're going to make that change. Now, Flacco going to not look. Flacco going to have 350. Three touchdowns, but three picks too now. Yeah.

Now, Flacco, he an equal opportunity employer. He going to help you or he going to help them? Joe, is there any similar situations? So, what's the NBA pre-draft? What is it like? NBA pre-draft? Yes. You know, guys go there and you do the agility test.

I don't think guys sit out. You know, from what I can remember, especially when I had to go through it, man, we had to do everything. Now what they've implemented is, you know, you see a lot of guys, they had to play five on five now, scrimmages. Back when I was coming out, guys had to do that. Okay, Ocho, you know what I mean? Wow.

You go to a team, you have these individual workouts where, okay, so I worked out for the top 10 teams in the NBA draft in 2001. So I worked out for 10 teams. And in those – yeah, they were working me like a dog. So in those workouts, they invite two, maybe three more of the guys so y'all can play two on two, so y'all can play one-on-one, so we can see who is what. And you cooking them, Joe?

Man, listen, I was getting to the chicken because coming out, I wasn't a, you know, a top prospect to, you know, some degree. You know, guys were telling me I was going to go top 10, but I didn't know, so I had to work out for the top 10 teams. Guys who were coming out in my time who were before me, well, that was a high school draft, the Kwame

Brown, the Tyson, but you still had the Jason Richardson's, the Shane Battier's, guys like that. I was looking to work out against those type of dudes, you know, to try to improve my draft stock. And I ended up getting drafted 10, but I don't know.

After 10, I hadn't worked out for any of the other teams, so I wouldn't know what it would have been like. Right. Jose, I'm cooking something. I don't know about y'all, but I'm cooking today. Man, look, you get once in a lifetime, bro. Like, it's like it's so close. It's right there in your hands, and you like –

it's going to be left up to you, especially in those workouts, you know, to these scouts, these coaches, these executives, GMs, things of that sort. So, man, I think those are the moments that we all live for. We trying to compete for a roster spot. Oh, yeah. That's exactly right. Ravens rookie kicker Tyler Loop hit a 75-yard field goal with ease. Loop has a cannon for a leg.

Does Baltimore have their replacement for Justin Tucker, Ochoa? I mean, no, I wouldn't say that yet. Justin Tucker, one of the greatest kickers of all time. I know he struggled last year, struggled a little bit before that. But just because you have a strong leg doesn't mean you're consistent. It doesn't mean you're going to be consistent in clutch and clutch situations when Justin Tucker has always been. Having a strong leg is cool.

I mean, that's nice, being able to kick from 75 yards. That's also nice. But can you do it when the game is on the line? Can you do it when it's windy? So there's so many other factors that come into him being having a strong leg, but also being a great clutch kicker in situations where it matters most. Because it's easy to do it right now. It ain't no pressure on you.

Ain't no pressure. Ain't no line. Ain't no crowd. Ain't no fans. No, there's nothing else affecting you in kicking 75 yards. But can you do it when it matters, when it matters most? Right. Man, hell, all these kids got legs now.

I mean, Joe, guys, they wouldn't even let you attempt no 60-yarder. Now these guys are like, okay, to get about five more yards than 60 yards. These guys, from now, a 50-yard field goal is like a 50-yard field goal. It's like a P.A.T. That's a layup. That's a layup. That's a layup. These guys got – I mean, when I was here,

the only handful of guys could be consistently accurate from 50 plus. I mean, they was trying to get that thing 45 and 10. But now, and they get, oh, Joe, you missed a 55 yard and they like, what happened? What happened? It's 55 yards.

Remember the goalposts are a little bit more narrow now. A little bit more narrow. You know, I kicked bit more narrow now. A little bit more narrow. You know I kick 65 yards too, now. Yeah. I promise you,

now, listen. Who was the backup picker for the Bengals for a decade straight? They didn't have to use you. They did use me. They used me when we played the Patriots now, so you know I can kick. In the preseason. I know.

If he got hurt in the regular season, I was still the backup kicker. Oh, you kicked one in the preseason, Ocho? Yeah, boy. Hey, Joe, it would have been good from 50. Oh, boy. Hey, matter of fact, chat. Chat, can somebody please send this to Uncle? Ask the chat. There's video of me, footage of me, chat, chat, can somebody please send this to Unc? Ask the chat.

There's video of me, footage of me kicking 65, kicking 70. Like, look, chat, go and Google it. Ask it. Yeah, kicking the ball. You wasn't kicking no field goals, no 65 or 70. No, I'm talking about field goals. Somebody in the chat, man, please show Unc, man, me kicking for 65. Or you got Google it, YouTube it.

It's on there. Hey, with ease too, Unc. too like it would have been good 73 that ain't good enough that he was kicking 50 60 and 70 yards now he kicking it with oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know i got you know i got i got a soccer background joe so you know i do i do a little bit of everything now okay i see i see elite college football recently ranked the most toxic fan bases in college football. Number one, Ohio State. Number two, Florida. Number three, Georgia.

Number four, CU. Wow. Number five, Miami. Number six, Tennessee. Number seven, Texas. Number eight, Alabama. Number nine, FSU. Number 10, Michigan. Number nine, FSU. Number ten, Michigan.

Five of the top ten, where do you play football at, Elcho? In Miami. SEC. Hey, I still haven't had a chance to really go to these games and really understand. You gotta go, listen, go to University of Georgia.

Go to Tennessee. I went to Tennessee with my daughter she was on a visit go to Alabama you got to go you got to go to one of those you got to go to this a Tennessee game and the LSU game that's it in Arkansas you got to go watch the Razorback go Alabama UGA now take Sanium to see 105 105 what thousand in the stadium maybe rocking in the stadium they'd be rocking yeah oh Joe you know the South look you grew up in Florida and that's what I tell people when you go when you play in the South yeah football is different they closed that we used to have played a small town, they close early. You got to go to the game.

Hold on. That's why in Texas they got high school stadiums that hold 20,000. A high school stadium that look better than some college with their weight facilities. Football is king. Man, look here. And that's what – who was we talking to? We went to – we was on tour, and we had somebody at camp.

And he was talking about, I said, bro, ain't nothing but Georgia Bulldogs in the state of Georgia? Atlanta Falcons win two Super Bowls, ten. They ain't play the UGA. Who's that? Them dogs. Football. What? Yes, sir.

And then they go to Braves. Yeah. Yeah. You're talking about somebody that lived there. I've been there. Boy. Ocho. Man.

And when they used to play, I don't know. They might still do. They still do. They play at Jacksonville Stadium. Boy, at 16, coming down 16 to get down on 95 to go down to Jacksonville. Man. Yeah. They love some football in the South, man.

I'm not surprised. I got to see that. Hey, hey, look. But I'm surprised to see you. When to see you get such a rabid fan base? You based this off two years? Prime effect, baby. Yeah. When to see you get such a rabid fan base? You base this out two years? Prime effect, baby.

Yeah. And Miami, I know Miami. Y'all just show up because Miami, they don't come to nothing on time. We don't get there in the second quarter. Exactly. Exactly. Ohio State, yes. Florida, Georgia, yes.

Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Florida State. I don't know what y'all been rabid about. Y'all ain't been good in a minute. I mean, listen, obviously the best college when it comes to college football in Florida. Now, UM had a phenomenal year last year. But FAMU is the best college football team here in the state of Florida. You like FAMU? FAMU is – listen, FAMU is everything.

FAMU is the... We got to find HBCU. We got to rank the top 10 HBCU fan bases. Number one is FAMU. Top to bottom. I don't know, Ocho. I think it might be Granville or Southern. Come on, wait, come on.

But our human jukebox? Man, our human jukebox. Listen, with all due respect, with all due respect to the human jukebox they were nothing they would never be comparable to the incomparable Martian 100 don't do that

oh they done passed y'all bro yeah they done passed y'all the jukebox is where it's at the jukebox man listen man Dr. White and Brother Shelby Chipman have chipmunk have done a wonders we haven't done a wonder with the margin 100 years of wonders but that jukebox not listen

no man oh joe that was daily break oh joe they bring number two records that wasn't even the full jukebox that we had i know listen i've been watching something for a very long time in chat listen to me if there's anybody oh youngk, you probably won't do this, but it's for me. You know how much I love the band. Anybody in the chat that went to HBCU and might have played in the band, let me tell you how much I love Southern.

Still to this day, I always watch. It's on YouTube. It's called The Fifth Quarter. Obviously, Yonk, you know it. The Fifth Quarter, after two HBCU teams played, they had The Fifth Quarter at the end of the game, where they go back and forth.

Battle of the bands. Boy, the human jukebox versus Alcorn State in 2014. Chat, if y'all have any time to go on YouTube and watch Southern versus Alcorn State in 2014, boy, you will enjoy it. It was a masterpiece from both schools back and forth. But when it comes to HBCU marching bands, there was nothing, nothing

like that school, the highest of the seven hills down in Tallahassee, Florida that look like a reptile known as the Rattlers. Nothing like them. Nothing. And I stand on that. They're going to put on a show. Man, every time. Only one

school is Mars for the President now. Only one school is Mars for the president now. Only one school is going to play for the president now. We done been everywhere, all over the world. We different. Huh? We strike different. What you mean we? You went to Oregon State.

Time out, time out, time out. You know I wasn't able to go to FAMU. I ain't had no grades coming out of high school. Listen, I'm an honorary member. I'm an honorary member. And I'm an ambassador for FAMU. Teddy.

Hey, where the dog at? Joe, where the dog at? Titus put up Titus Lee. I'm talking about Joe. I want to see Joe dog. He roaming theus put up, Titus sleep. Huh? Titus sleep. I'm talking about Joe. I want to see Joe dog. He roaming the property right now, Ocho.

Oh, you got property? Boy, you got money. Property? Hey, he ain't saving it in the yard. Let me say he on the property. Ocho, you got to chill. Ocho, you got to chill. You got to chill, Ocho.

You got to chill. But the hoes say he on the property. He doing his job right now. He doing his job. Boy, you got money. I'm going to put him on, I'm going to bring him on camera for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He the same color as Ugg Dog. He brown with that black mask.

Yeah, he bite? Yeah, he bite. Yeah, yeah. He got teeth, dog. Name something that got teeth that don't bite. I rough your dog up. Who? Me. All right, you going to put the suit on?

You going to put the suit on later? I don't need no suit. I don't need no suit. Just let, just, just, just, you got commands for him, right? Yeah. Yeah, just command him to attack and watch what I do to him. No, I ain't got to command him nothing. All you got to do is be in the backyard.

I ain't got to say nothing. I ain't going to say a word. But I know you don't see that thing on YouTube where that Amazon driver, that UPS Amazon driver, he hopped over that fence back there. You see that? I see. With the package in his hand. I see what it looked like.

He was delivering the Uber Eats. And that big dog came through the screen, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Put a little towel there to catch him a little bit. He would have had, buddy. Yeah. The Volume.

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