Nightcap - Nightcap Best of the Rest - Part 2: MJ joining NBA on NBC + Meth Raccoon

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

Recap the best clips of the week as Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Russell Westbrooks wife calling out ESPN report and anonymous sources, Michael Jordan joining the NBA on NBC broadcast, and much more!01:47 - Rachel Nichols responds to Bron’s Hali Tweet04:55 - Nick Van Exel’s theory on achilles tears12:35 - Anonymous source on the Nuggs says Russ is immature24:21 - Jordan joining NBC and Peacock as a special contributor39:43 - Mom speaks out after son orders dumdums on amazon44:00 - Lady pulled over had racoon with meth pipe(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. We talked about LeBron's tweet last night. This is what he said, Oak. Hallie effing hoofing. Where's the lames who said he was overrated?

Quiet as hell, that boy nice. Even more someone everyone would love to play with. This is what Rachel Nichols said. If you look at how many players even answered who's overrated question, only 90 of the 450 players in the nba then you see only 14.4 percent of the 90 voted for tyrese halliburton it maps out to 13 guys obviously it should have been zero but the nba is the most petty league on earth oh what do you think about the players are we making are we making too much out of this? Basically, 13 players said Hallie

was overrated. I mean, yeah, we're making too much out of it. I think he's a great team player. He'd do for his team to win. He ain't, you know, he come and try to have a 25 point. There's a team that move the

ball around. Everybody get the ball to the open guy. And, you know, the team must feel happy with what he do night in and night out. They gave him a guarantee. You know, they gave him a distinction like two years ago. A year ago. And yeah. And plus he's on the dream team.

And I think that he's a good kid. He the face for the Pacers. Like I said, they back to back each to come, you know, for the Pacers. Like I said, they back-to-back. He used to come, you know, in finals. So, hey, every team needs a guy. You know, you ain't got to be the guy that average 25 points. You need that guy that you can go to and know that he got your back.

And he seems like he's a real gentle guy. And, you know, all the teammates praise him. So, hey, you know, people always, you know, say this and that about your game. But as long as you know what you bring to your team, that's all that matters. I told Unk, right, I said the players that actually voted that might have said something, I just said they only said it because his game wasn't aesthetically pleasing. It wasn't nice to watch. It's beautiful to watch a guy named Kyrie Irving.

It's beautiful to watch Shea. You know, it's beautiful to watch Kyrie Irving. It's beautiful to watch Shea. It's beautiful to watch Steph shoot threes and come off picking rolls and picking pop and all that stuff. It's beautiful to watch Kevin Durant come off something and pull up in the middie. But when you watch Halliburton, it's not pretty, but he gets the job done. He gets the job done. He's the second, third tier

guy. He's not in the top tier of the NBA. But you know what? Everybody has to have a guy on their team to be the leader, be the captain. So he's that guy. So if he don't have a 25, but they still win, that's what's best for the team. Everybody into the crossover,

behind your back. And one, Kyrie finished at the rim. Curry shoot one leg, half-push shots. Giannis coming down the gut, dunking on everybody. You know, AD, you know, do what he do. But that's what make your team go. LeBron, facilitate for his team, get everybody involved.

I mean, everybody got a different job. When you're a leader, my thing is, where you at the last two years, it's hard to critique his game in a bad way because the team is there. It's a team effort. He's at the stake of the team. Nick Van Exel has a theory on the increased

Achilles tears. He said there have been Achilles tears throughout the years, but my thoughts on them is that they happen more now than I think something has to do with them damn lows the players are wearing nowadays. Cover them ankles up, fellas. You think it has something has to do with them damn lows the players wearing nowadays. Cover them ankles up, fellas. You think it has something to do with the shoe that the guys are wearing,

or what do you think the problem is? I mean, a lot of guys getting hurt wearing low tops now. It's cute shoes, but when you're playing ball, you got to be tightened up. And ball safety is this and that. But they're doing more running too. They're getting them down the court more. They're turning more. We used to play up and down. Now they're playing sideways and up and down.

So it ain't physical, but you still get up and down. You put miles on them shoes. Let me ask you a question, though. Did guys tape their ankles? Do guys tape their ankles, or do they play free? I don't think they tape. I think we played 90% tape. Now it's probably 20% tape.

Because when we play, if you get hurt, if your ankle gets twisted, and you can't play, they're going to find you. Damn. They don't do that no more. Oh, yeah. They just find guys. So that's why most guys in our era, they play with the anchors, you know, sole anchors or this and that because they was taped.

But now they tape – they don't get them taped. When they twist them, they got to miss two or three weeks. Because I got – I don't know how – did you tape your anchors on, Joe? For fashion. Not for no support. You got – I like to feel the ground. I can't feel the ground with tape on my ankles. I need to be flexible in a sense.

I was a Reebok at that time. Reebok had the uniforms and stuff, right? Right. I had them take all the cushion and what you call it? The lining out of my shoe. My cleat was nothing but a shell

and some shoelaces. I need to feel everything. It was like I had a track spike. You wanted a my shoe. So my cleat was nothing but a shell and some shoelaces. I need to feel everything. It was like I had a track spike. So you wanted like a soccer shoe. Exactly. I need to feel the floor every time I touch the floor. So when we played with Pat Riley,

we had to tape and shoot around. What? And shoot around? Yeah. Yeah. We had to tape sometime and shoot. If we lose a game by 20 points or something, we had to get, they shoot around, we had to come in and tape

because we ran into suicides and all. Yeah, Pat. Pat Riley, he made sure you was in shape. Body fat, everything. Wait, suicides at the NBA level because you lose a game? I mean, it felt like that, yeah. I mean, that's how he, you know, yeah. Hey, he get all the miles on them shoes.

Achilles and ACL injury this season alone. DeJounte Murray tore his Achilles. Dame tore his. Jason Tatum tore his. Isaiah Jackson tore his Achilles. Drew Smith ruptured his Achilles. Kyrie, Grant Williams, DeAnthony Melton, and Maurice Wagner both all tore

ACL and Grant Williams had meniscus damage. I tape directly to my skin. So I would tape directly to my skin. You got no pre-wrap? You got no pre-wrap? I ain't got no pre-wrap. I got mold skin.

You know that thick mold skin. You know that thick tape? Yeah. I had the mold skin. And then I had that brown tape, Ocho. You know that brown tape? They got to take the scissors to cut. OK, OK.

That's what I mean. That's how I take my ankle. OK, OK. Yeah. I ain't have no pre-wrap. No pre-wrap. No. I thought that was the thin.

No, I had that brown tough ass tape that they had to take the scissors to cut. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My ankles were bad, man. I couldn't chance it on Joe. Yeah. Now, that's in the game.

Now, I did regular tape in practice. Right. But for the game. Oh, okay. But here's the thing, Oak. But you're stopping and going the game okay but here's the thing Oh I'm gonna stop it and go in the game see the thing was is that I wore I wore hot I wore a million and then later in my career I went to the low okay but see cuz but I didn't roll my ankle like a lot of people roll the ankle over the top I return my in people

people would follow would drag me down Ochocho, and the ankle would roll in. I know what you're talking about. Because they're pulling you from behind too, huh? Yes. Yeah. They're putting their weight on you. They're putting their weight on you. That hip drop tackle.

Yeah, they put their weight on you. Yes. You get caught right underneath. Yep. I'm saying we play guards, like point guards, two guards might have went low. But all the big guys, they wearing highs. They wouldn't wear no low top. Somebody see you in a paint with low top, they going to knock you in the head.

But, Zia, you're a little older than me, but you remember Chuck Taylors. Guy used to play Chuck Taylors. He up and down, ain't have no cushion, ain't have nothing. He never twist my ankle. Them Chuck Taylors, remember them pro kids? That was Chuck Taylors. They had no support. I played

with Jerron Ennis with Boots in Philly and Gilly. Gilly was there too. And they had a celebrity basketball game I played in. Black high tops, black high top Chucks, some Chuck Taylors. And they looked at me crazy. Everybody else, I didn't know what the Kyrie's and the Katie's and the LeBron's and the, you know, and the Jordan's.

Man, I dropped about 12 out there, man, in a pair of Chucks. I'm moving. And everybody else, well, you ain't got your shoes taped up? No. Because when I'm wearing them Chuck Taylors, I can feel the flow. I can feel everything. It felt so comfortable

and everybody looking at me like, boy, you crazy. Boy, you going to twist something. I say, man, I'm good. Dr. J's the way. Dr. J back in the day. And then they came out with the cons because, you know,

when Dr. J, everybody wore the cons. Ain't nobody wore. In the early 80s, ain't nobody. In the 70s and 80s, ain't nobody wore Nike. Nike didn't take off until Jordan got there. Everybody wore the cons. The Dr. J cons. They wore the Magic Johnson weapons.

They wore the Larry Bird weapon. What you mean weapon? What brand is it? That's what they call the Converse. That's what Magic and Birds were called. That's what Magic and Verge were called. And the Dr. J. Dr. J. Cons.

They were heavy, but that's what everybody wore. And then, you know, there were a few guys that wore, like, Iceman, Moses Malone had Nike contracts. Nike, yeah. But the Converse was the shoe. The only person that I remember wearing Adidas, correct me if I'm wrong, was Kareem. Kareem had the top ten Adidas. He was the only only person I remember wearing Adidas, correct me if I'm wrong, was Kareem. Kareem had the top 10 Adidas.

He was the only guy that I saw with Adidas. Everybody else normally had Converse, and there were a few guys sprinkled in there that had on Nikes. Hey, they did. Hey, did they wear Pony back in the days? Pony had basketball shoes. Pony, yeah. Spud Webb wore ponies. Yeah.

Yeah, some people wore ponies. Spud Webb and Robert Parrish wore ponies. Yeah, some people wore ponies. Spud Webb and Robert Parrish wore ponies. Okay. Everybody had a pair of pony cleats, man, as a little kid, man. I had pony cleats, too. Ponies were big back then. Ponies were big back then. They were.

But you know, back then, when I was in middle school or high school, the posters. So you had the Iceman sitting on the block of ice. Oh, yeah. Two balls. You had the poster. The poster was huge back then. And I had a bunch of posters. I had a bunch of posters with Bird,

and I had a bunch of posters with everybody else. They'd probably be worth something now. But back then, you didn't. You wasn't even thinking. You wasn't even thinking about, man, these are going to be worth something now. But back then, you wasn't even thinking. You wasn't even thinking about, man, they're going to be worth something. My grandma was like, boy, you need to throw that ish in the trash, junk it up my house. An anonymous player on the Nuggets says Russell Westbrook is immature

per Ramona Shelburne. According to Ramona's article, she reported, minutes after the Nuggets lost game two in their first-round series against the Clippers, Edelman had a problem problem while he had been at post-game lectern there had been a heated discussion between Westbrook and Gordon in the locker room multiple sources told ESPN Gordon had challenged Westbrook about his attitude outside the locker room one player relayed why Gordon might have done so he's so immature immature, he said of Westbrook. First, Russ' wife Nina came to defense on IG.

Why the Nuggets title hopes might hinge on a volatile player in the NBA? You should be ashamed. Volatile? You should be ashamed for so many reasons. I'll let you decipher them. Jay Williams doesn't want to hear excuses for Nikola Jokic. Who said? She wrote, at Ramona Sherbert ESPN for Nicola Jokic. Oh, this, who said,

oh, this is what she wrote? At Ramona Sherbert ESPN, dirty work when put on Ramona. How could you share and spread so many lies randomly for no reason and with such conviction you're using his name

for clickbait during the playoffs, which is ridiculous. Trust me, I know the facts about literally everything. Normally, I let you guys tell your silly lies. And peace, enough already. Stop with the lies. Go Nuggets.

Hey, you know, players do get into it all the time. They do. I'm not sure. Why is this even news? Okay, there's a disagreement. Okay, I don't like the way you act sometimes. I mean, that's life.

That's sports. For people that have never been a part of a locker room or any type of organized activity, this happens all the goddamn time. It's not even news. Hell, shit, I'm sure Carson didn't like some of the stuff I did. I'm sure Coach Lewis

didn't like some of the stuff I did. What did they tell me? Hey, well, I don't like that, but I needed to chill a little bit. Shit, Big Willie. Big Willie told me, stop talking to the demons of Lyman and TV timeouts. You don't have to deal with them. Hey, Big Willie told me, stop talking to the demons of Lyman and TV timeouts. You don't have to deal with him.

I said, hey, Big Willie, you shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm just talking shit. He said, yeah, you're talking trash, but we got a lot. Yeah, you're talking trash to people you ain't got to block. Right. So, I mean, okay, okay, I get it. There were certain things that, I mean, it happens. Yeah.

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And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran- Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story,

listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I've been very fortunate to be in locker rooms where stuff didn't get out. I think now, you know, I don't know if people pillow talk.

I don't know. Hey, everybody have chatted Patty, boy. Yeah. Everybody chatted Patty. They can't wait. And there's a certain player that knows all the goddamn reporters and always want to leak some stuff. It always comes from somebody inside the house.

Yeah, because I was – look, that's one thing. How was work? It was work. I mean, we practiced. We met. We practiced. Oh, such and such. I had such and such call and said – I said, I don't know nothing about that.

And that don't go no further. I know somebody called you and said this, but don't you call somebody else and say I don't know nothing about that. And I don't go no further. I know somebody called you and said this, but don't you call somebody else and say that. Because I don't want that ish coming up because at the end of the day, you are a representation of me. Keep your mouth closed. What somebody else got going on, that ain't got ish to do with you.

You worry about this house. All that other stuff that's going on out there, that ain't got nothing to do with you. I don't know about nothing it ain't my business to know it's my business to know shannon's business and what goes on here what you doing that's my business all that other stuff what they're doing i let them worry about that because i can't control their house. I ain't in their house, so I don't know what you're talking about. Well, he said, well, I don't see that that's the problem right there. He said, and now you're repeating it.

I don't get down like that. I don't want to hear nothing about what's going on in somebody else's house. If it's not football related. I ain't got anything to do with it. I ain't got to do it. I'm like, hey bro, all I'm saying, I ain't gonna go, hey, you need to tighten your screws down a little bit. You're a little loose out here.

Man, Sharp, what you mean, what you mean? Hey, Sharp don't go out, but if Sharp know know how did he know yeah okay yeah so I'm gonna go okay okay you're right you're right you're right you're right okay that's all I'm saying yeah

cause I'm telling you you know I don't know how you do it wherever you were but Mike ain't gonna play that Mike will get rid of your ass. Yeah. Quick. Quick.

Quick. So anything that's going to take your focus away from winning ball games, not being attentive, you know, look here. That's one thing. Hey, you came to work at, hey, when you went to Dove Valley, Bronco Parkway, you went to work. All that other stuff. See, I try to warn them.

See, we were one of the first teams that had cameras throughout the whole building. In meeting rooms, big meeting rooms, training. I said, y'all do know, y'all run out of here, y'all get on the phone. Y'all run out of here, and you get on your cell phone. I said, okay. Man, I said, okay. Hey, you know what I'm saying?

Oh, hey. Hey, listen, I'm laughing because I'm guilty, bro. I mean, hey, you know how them old people, them old people like, oh, OK. Yeah. That's what my grandma, my grandma wasn't home. She like,. Just a little nod, huh?

Hey, hey, well, hey, you brought back some memories, boy. Oh, Joe. You brought back memories. For that time, I didn't have to be – I wasn't on special teams, but on Friday. So Friday, they was like, hey – and special teams coach would always say, hey, we're going to do hands teams, so don't worry about it. We'll go over it.

Just be out there on the field, blah, blah, blah. So I didn't really have to get to meetings till, you know, nine o'clock. But anyway, okay, we got a break. So, you know, we got the big meeting. Mike, we got the big thing. And then we're going to break up. And defense is going to go in the area. Offense stays here.

And then after the offense, we're going to be, okay, we got a 10-minute break because we're going to break up an individual. We got the tight ends, the running backs, the wide receivers. Yeah. Man, Sharp. Man, you ain't never on the phone, man. I mean, damn. I said, let me

ask you a question. What do you think my girl think I'm at? Hmm. Where do you think I think she's at? Because, see, y'all calling to check up. If I got to do that, I got to get me a new girl. I ain't calling to check up on you. You don't call to check up on me.

As a matter of fact, my phone was off. Now, if something like, look, my phone was off. My nephew passed. My sister called the Broncos. My phone was off. Mrs. Chandler, such and such, Mike need to see you. Dang. was off. Mrs. Chandler such and such your might need to see you. Dang became I went as a yo, what's up Mike say your nephew passed.

Oh, so your sister says she's been trying to get in touch with you. That's okay. I call her. I called her. She said she had my baby gone. It's like, all right, I'll be there. I went and said, Mike, I got to go. She said, all right, just let me know when you're coming back. I went home, took care of my sister, got that situated. I came back.

It was like a Saturday. I got back that Wednesday. I'm all business, bro. When I'm at work, I'm at work. Think that Wednesday? Right. I'm all business, bro. When I'm at work, I'm at work. I ain't talking to nobody on the phone. I ain't doing all that stuff. I do all that stuff.

Hey, and now I'm talking, you know, because it was two hours difference in time. So I'm going to work. I might call my sister. Or once I got done with work before it got too late, because, you know, it's already, you know, 7 o'clock. My grandma going to bed. If I wanted to talk to my granny, I was like, hey, let me put granny on the phone right quick. But other than that, no, I ain't about that.

All that talking and, like, I'm at work, Ocho. What am I doing at work? Yeah, boy, you better than me, boy. We got two different approaches, boy. Hey, listen, when we leave that big team meeting and we got that, like, that 10-minute break before we go to the meeting, I'm on that phone, boy. Oh, you do? Hey. I'm scrolling Twitter.

I'm scrolling, you know, because it's towards the end. You know, I got Twitter by that time, 2008, 2009, 2010. Man, I'm all on there, man. I'm having a good time, you know, sending my tweets out and boom, I'm going to my meetings. Now, I don't take my phone with me to the meetings, but once I hit that meeting room, well, I'm strictly finished. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I never took a phone to the meeting, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, boy, when we got that break, oh, boy. Listen, you know how black folk are. When we get a break, boy, we get a break. Oh, yeah. Hey, I ain't playing. I'm going to Jones. When we get a break, boy, we break. Oh, yeah. Hey. I'm going to Joan.

I'm going to Joan. I'm ragging on somebody. That's what I'm going to do. Okay. That's what we're going to do. Check this out. I don't know if you guys heard. Michael Jordan will be joining NBA on NBC and Peacock as a special contributor.

Jordan, the Bulls, won six titles. He's a five-time champion and he's regarded as the GOAT. What version of MJ will we get on air? What you expecting? I mean, yeah, because think about it. I think

the NBA hadn't been on NBC since, what, 2002? Because the NBA used to be on NBC. Well, before, it was on CBS. I remember when they had Bill Russell used to commentate with Brent Musburger. That was before your time, Joe. And then it went to NBC, Bob Costas, Marv Albert. Sideline reporting was Ahmad Rashad.

I mean, we really, really never heard Mike really talk basketball. Not in a professional setting. Not in, you know, he's sitting around. You hang out with him, he talk ball like that. But cameras, action, people around. I don't know. I don't know what to expect. I think he's going to be very blunt and honest on there. Just telling how you really see the game.

I think it's going to be pretty entertaining. I think people are going to tune in because they want to hear Jordan talk. Outside, we've really never heard Jordan talk except in a press conference or except after a game. We we really never heard Jordan talk except in a press conference or except after a game. You know what I'm saying? We've really never heard him in a studio. And he's asked to give a critique or an analyst or analyze what happened in the game or what this player did. You know, I like this player.

I like Kobe. He liked LeBron. He liked this. He liked that. But to ask, to critique and analyze a game, we've never heard him do this. I'm not saying that he can't because obviously the man has a tremendous basketball IQ. I mean, it's going to be

interesting just to hear his views, his points based on what he's seeing, being able to critique while being fake. I wonder if they're going to call him a hater when he calls somebody out because you know they call everybody else a hater. It all depends on how far he goes in his assessments on players or what's going on.

He's going to pick and choose the way he wants to commentate and analyze as well. He might not want to put himself in position where he has to critique people in that manner the way the way most analysts and put Charles Barkley does I think I think it's gonna be funny it's gonna be funny we get I'm I'm I just want to hear I just want to hear I just want to hear him with his take because because I think the thing is the the thing is that a lot of times people think the greater you are at something the more opinion opinionated and it

easier it is but we know from football some of the greatest guys that have ever played the game can't talk about the game right and it it it's funny how that, because a lot of times like like bodybuilding, I'm a big bodybuilder. A lot. A lot of times bodybuilders can train themselves, but they can't train somebody else. So if I'm anxious, I'm really anxious to see and to hear Jordan, his critique and his analyst of the game and players in today's game. Yeah, me too. But I do. I do.

I expect for it to be blunt. I expect for him to really tell you how it is because maybe he'll draw the analysis as far as like when back when he played in today's game. But I know he don't like that three. Yeah, I know. Three ball. So, yeah, I'm excited, too. I think it's going to be fun because it's a whole generation, especially today, who never even got a chance to see him play.

So or heard him speak. Yeah. Or even heard him speak. So, yeah, I think this is going to be great for the basketball world for sure. He different. I mean, if you've never been around him, he talk ish about everything. I'm talking, bro, I'm talking about from what you got on, you playing cards.

I mean, there ain't nothing that he ain't talking ish about. I'm talking, bro, I'm talking about from what you got on, you're playing cards. I mean, there ain't nothing that he ain't talking ish about. And he want to bet, gamble on everything. How long is it going to get from point A to point B? Man, come on, dude. I just, I'm just here, man. Hey, how y'all do? How everybody doing?

But I ain't coming to bet no money, man. Hey, he's a very, like I said, I mean, seeing him on television don't do him justice. You got to see him in person to get a sense and a feel of who and what this man is. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, it's different, bro.

It's different. I ain't going to lie to you. I had the pleasure to be around him on numerous occasions, and I just kind of sat back and watched. You know, I didn't ask a lot of questions on Coach Ocho. Like, you know, we had things we would do in the summer, whether it was bringing Jordan athletes, taking vacations together, or us just meeting up, hanging out.

And every time, bro, I'd just be like just watching, just trying to pick up any and everything. Because as he's talking, he's giving game at the same time. You know, he take us out to eat, and we sit there, and we talk. And he'll tell you, you know, hey, look, man, all you got to do is average five to six points a quarter, man. That's 24 points a game. Like, it ain't easy.

I mean, it ain't hard. You know, we make the game hard. But he broke it down to a size, you know, and had the work ethic to prove it. But, yeah. Does he seem real? No, it really didn't a lot of times because, okay, Ocho, that's who, you know, as a kid, I grew up watching, you know, watching all them Bulls games. Like I said, they played on WGN or something like that.

I know we had that channel. They was on almost every night. So, for me, he was like a hero, bro. It was like he wasn't even real. So, to get the opportunity to rep the Jordan brand and be a part or to be in that circle, like, that was – I can't even describe it, bro. We had such a great time. But yeah, he didn't seem real.

He didn't seem real. He doesn't. Listen, I've met, talked to Denzel face-to-face, had a conversation. Samuel Jackson, Oprah. I saw Victoria, David Beckham. I mean, I've seen some of the biggest stars in the world I've never seen anybody it's like he levitating I'm like he don't ultra I'm bad this man glowing you remember how blue Bruce Leroy yes and I'm not gonna Showing up. Showing up. Yes. I swear.

And I'm not going to be blasphemous, but boy, if you ever met him. But Ocho, if you think about it, every athlete that ever meet him says the exact same thing about him. So I thought it was just me. I was like, hey, I'm just in the league. I made a couple of Pro Bowls, Ocho. I'm an all pro. I'm it was just me. I was like, well, you know, hey, I'm just in the league. I made a couple of Pro Bowls. I'm an all pro. I'm a pretty good player. So I say, well, you know, man, I'm starstruck.

I'm all. But then I hear people that's Hall of Famers and won championships feel the exact same way. I said, OK. It ain't no cool job. No, he for real. I mean, and like I said, he different. Because I'm saying, you know, you think he's going to be like, hey, man, how you doing?

Bro, you just met me. You talking ish from the dome. Bro, you know what I'm saying? You ain't expecting that. That's him. Yeah. I'm from the get. Yeah.

I said, oh, my goodness. But like, yeah, you got to. I've never the get. I said, oh, my goodness. But like, yeah, you got it. I've never met Tiger. So I don't know how that'll be. But I can't imagine. I can't imagine it'll be. The only thing I probably could compare it to would probably be the other MJ. The OG MJ, Michael Jackson.

That's probably the only thing that I can compare it to because Mike was the only one that people, people pay all that money to go to the concert and don't watch it because they fainted. The man come out there just staying and people just fainting. Yeah, it was different. So I think that would probably be the only thing comparable to it.

I had the fortune of meeting Jay-Z and Beyonce. Like I said, I've met, you know, big, big, big, had a conversation with Jeff Bezos. Ain't nothing like MJ, bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain.

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Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask...

I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joe's like, he just, as a matter of fact, I'm trying to think. When the All-Star game was in L.A., he had a party, and I got an invite. And you couldn't drive because it wasn't one of them are building mansions and so you drop you drove and they had bus shuttles to pick you up and take you I mean the magic this place probably

fifty thousand square foot and the thing is like I I mean, they had crab legs, lost all the stuff, but they had it like on a conveyor belt. So the place was coming around, Ocho coming. I'm like, I was like, man, what a fool. They was like, it's getting ready to come out. I'm like, man, what a fool. They was like, oh, it's getting ready to come out. I was like, okay. I was like, so I walk a little further, and there it is.

On a conveyor belt. Now, he is like in a little back room, you know, holding up. He's smoking his cigar. You know, he's going to be on the cigar now. Hey, Ocho, there ain't nothing like the jordan the brand jordan parties all doing all-star weekend i was that's what that's what it was that's what it was yeah so uh i had the luxury to be a seven-time all-star so i was a brand jordan athlete right that entire time so man they they they were star studded, bro. It was it. That's the place you wanted to be. Hey, look,

even when I don't even go to All-Star weekends now, I got people who be hitting my phone during All-Star weekend. Hey, you think you can get me in that Jordan party? I'm like, man, look. No. I mean, I don't, you know, I got there by half. As a matter of fact, to this

day, I still don't know how I got in because somebody sent the thing to my phone. They did. They sent the thing to my phone. I don't even know how they got my number. I was like, is this for real? Hey. It was off the chain, Ocho.

I ain't going to lie to you. It was off the chain. Hey,. I ain't going to lie to you. It was off the chain. I got to meet George, man. I got to see if he can really talk. I got to see if he can really talk. I got to see if he can really talk. Jay, you know I'm going to go at him, Joe. You're going to have to take nightcap to All-Star weekend.

I got to go at him, Joe. But you really think you would have done something with me? Huh? I would have had that 23 looking like 32 hey hey he gonna be like I we can do that right now but let me tell you what he gonna do he said I got he said I got a million cash right now let's go play this let's go play the liver I tell you to pay me and I got 5200 because he. Oh, you got $5,200. Hey, because he, because the way he bet,

the way he bets, Ocho, he going to bet whatever's going to make you feel uncomfortable. Hey, listen, and you know what? I live my life being, I've gotten

comfortable being uncomfortable. So that's not going to work with me. Yeah, dog. When that man said a million, see, I don't know. I've seen a million dollars cash and I ain't really trying to do anything for a million dollars cash. I ain't trying

to shoot no one shot. I ain't trying to play no pool. I ain't trying to play no ice hockey. I ain't trying to play no Madden. It's a whole different ball game. You notice like in the World Series of Poker when it gets down to the final table, what they do Ocho, they bring that $8 million, that $10 million amount of cash, and they put it on the table.

Yeah. Just imagine, Ocho, they're your salary. They put your whole salary up there and they said, okay, now, win this game, you get that. If you don't, we take it. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Listen, I like my chances, one-on-one, anything right now with him, with Jordan right. If you don't, we take it. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Listen, I like my chances one-on-one

anything right now with him, with Jordan right now. I don't. Be honest with yourself. I don't. I will put my million on him. That way I don't. Matter of fact, are you sure? Who you got right now? A horse?

Shoot around one-on-one? Me or Jordan? I got Jordan. You know, hey, Mike, if you see this, make it happen. What? Make a lot of this stuff. Hey, Joe. Huh? Hey, Joe, I think me and you can get a lot of credit.

We might need to get some more money to put on that. Mike, I love you, baby. Make a lot of yourself. I'll let you boy, man. We get a lot of – Joe, I think we get a lot of credit. Make us some money. make us some quick money. With all due respect, how about your boy, man? Let's do something, man.

I need to prove myself to these folk now. A Kentucky mom is speaking out after her eight-year-old son unknowingly ordered 30 boxes of Dum Dum lollipops on Amazon, racking up a $4,200 charge. She discovered her son, Liam, had placed an order on Amazon over 70,000 dum-dums. After discovering the order, LeFevre

said she immediately called Amazon. She was instructed to reject delivery to initiate refund. The family stayed home to intercept the package, but despite tracking the delivery on the app, the first 22 boxes showed up without notice. Liam went outside to ride the scooter and started screaming,

My suckers are here! She said, there were 22 boxes of suckers on the front porch. How Liam know how to order something I don't? There's one thing about it, though. You can tell the ethnicity of a group like this when kids order that kind of stuff. Because if it was me

and I order something off my grandma or my mama car without them knowing $4,200 Man. First of all, ain't nobody had no credit card. I ain't had no credit card until I was a senior in college. Ain't nobody had no credit. I didn ain't had no credit card until I was a senior in college. So damn sure ain't nobody had no credit.

I didn't even know what no credit card was. You know how young he got to be? He's excited about ordering suckers. He's a little kid. He's eight years old. So that means he went in his mama's purse. He ain't got no credit card for himself. He didn't went and got a card and order stuff online.

Man, you know where I would be at? Man, CPS would have had to come stuff online, man, you know where I would be at? Man, CPS, CPS would have had to come get me, man. They would have had to come get me. Nah, I ain't going to call because they're going to kidnap me and beat me again. I ain't calling.

I ain't calling. They would have had to come get you. 70,000 dum-dums. Can you imagine back then, back when-dums. Hey, 4,200, Unc? Can you imagine back then, back when we was young? What? Order $4,200 worth on their card back then? Bro, do you know how much $4,200? Look and see how much

$4,200 is in the price of inflation right now. It's got to be like $20,000. Man, listen. I told you. Just go, hella. Eight years old, so that would have been $76,000. It's gotta be 15, 20,000 It don't matter what it is, we didn't have it

I know that, we didn't have it We didn't have it So I'm calling child protective Child services For me Hey do me a favor. Please come get me for my mom and my grandma get home, please. I don't want no

problems. We see it. Yeah. 1976 $4,200. $34,000 now boy I would die ain't no way boy that's a house

you normally $34,000 you could have bought a house for $34,000 absolutely a nice house too at that a good car was like $3,000 $2 house for $34,000 back then. Absolutely. A nice house, too, at that. A good car was like $3,000, $2,500, $3,000. Oh, no. I don't play around that, man. Look.

My grandma, hey, boy, go bring me my purse. And don't go in it. Hey, ain't no, ain't no, hey. She ain't say, hey, go get this, bring me my purse. Because, you know, might have had to sneak me a couple of quarters up out of there. Because, you know, back then, people kept change and a handkerchief. It wasn't a loose change in the bottom of my grandma's purse to that side. They kept change and a handkerchief. My grandma had a loose change in the bottom of my grandma purse to that side. They kept change in a handkerchief.

My grandma had a little change, the change pouch. You remember the thing you squeeze and you put your change inside the little squeezy thing? It was rubber, it was like rubber, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You used to give my school, here you go. I hope you put some money in it cuz I ain't got no money to put in it. Yeah. I used to give them at school. Here you go. I hope you put some money in it because I ain't got no money to put in it.

Just have it in my pocket. I ain't got no money. But there was a lady pulled over. She was swerving. Come to find out she had a suspended license. Tag was suspended. When they arrived to the window, there was a raccoon had a meth pipe in his mouth. He said, it ain't mine. It's her. She just passed it off to me. Wait.

It's a lady. She was swerving. Her license suspended. And she had suspended tags, so the police pulled her over. When they get to the car, there's a raccoon. She had the paperwork, all the documentation, because you have to have documentation for a wild animal like that.

He was on the passenger seat and he had a meth pipe in his mouth. They got to be somewhere in the country, boy. And it ain't none of us either. Ohio. Ohio. It's a little down the street from Georgia. As long as it wasn't Cincinnati.

And I could imagine, I could just picture that right now, too. I could just picture it. Raccoon said it wasn't his. Hey, that's funny. I take it back to work. Did you go to jail? Yeah, you got suspended license. Oh, yeah.

I guess they had to count somebody to come get the raccoon. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, because you can't, I mean, certain states will allow you to have them, but you have to have the proper paperwork. You can domesticate them, but you're right. You do got to have the paperwork. Hey, we got the video. We got the video.

Let's see the video. Oh. Hey. What? Come here. Hello. The raccoon has her meth pipe. As what?

Oh my God. Her meth pipe. He's playing with the meth pipe right now. No, don't reach for it. That's evidence now. I don't want him to have that. Well, that's why I'm going to do it. Hey, buddy.

Huh? It's okay. Okay, you're on on it. He'll be here in two minutes. I'm right across the mile. Is that what that is? Yeah. Okay.

This is what she's smoking meth in. Okay. The raccoons play with her meth pipe. All right. Is this not a cops episode? It's seen like a cops episode. I mean, he laughing, talking about the meth pipe,

the raccoon. He's not taking his job too serious. That's a good one. No. I mean, at that point in time, I mean, it ain't nothing. And I guess they ended up finding some, I think, it's been nothing. And I guess they ended up finding, they're finding some, I think it's been reported that they found other contraband in the car also. Yeah, she a little older too, but she on the back end.

So she, you know, she having a good time. The Volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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