Nightcap - Nightcap - Bills beat Dolphins, Cowboys clinch 2-seed, Eagles in free fall

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Buffalo Bills taking out the Miami Dolphins to win the AFC East title, the Dallas Cowboys clinching the second seed in the NFC and preparing to face off against the Green Bay Packers in the NFL Playoffs, the Philadelphia Eagles' late-season collapse capping off with an upset loss to the New York Giants, Jameis Winston going rogue, Puca Nacua setting records, all 3 black coaches making the NFL playoffs, Katt Williams standing on business about his 40 time, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction03:00 - Bills beat Dolphins16:00 - Can Dolphins upset Chiefs30:00 - Jameis Winston goes rogue52:00 - Dallas Cowboys clinch01:05:00 - Eagles' struggles continue01:24:00 - Katt Williams runs the 4001:44:00 - Ocho's sex schedule01:50:00 - Much more Nightcap #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Don't let them have nothing. Empty the shelves. I don't want them to have no cigars. So we really appreciate that, guys. You've shown us so much love and support in the three months that we've had Nightcap. Well, we've had a channel for three months. We've been on for four months. But you've shown us so much love. We've grown so fast.

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The Bills defeat the Dolphins 21-14. The Bills pick off Tua to escape with a 21-14 win. The Bills win the East for the fourth consecutive year. They clinch the number two seed and will host the Steelers in the wildcard game next Sunday. Because the Miami Dolphins lost, they will now be the sixth seed

and travel to Kansas City on Saturday. Josh Allen, 30-38, 359, two touchdowns, two horrible picks and an interception. But nevertheless, they were able to overcome those mistakes. Yeah. Tua, 17 of 27, 173, a touchdown and a pick.

I want to know. Hey, Tua, you still got those receipts? Because I got mine. I got mine right here, Ocho. I got my receipt right here. I knew you were going there. Ocho, I got my receipts right here. Uh-uh, uh-uh, Ocho, I got a lot right here. Ocho. I got my receipt right here. I knew you were going there. Ocho, I got my receipt right here. Uh-uh, uh-uh, Ocho.

I got a lot of receipts. Hold on, Ocho. I got all these receipts. Got them all. I kept them all. Yeah. I kept them all, Ocho. Yeah.

I got all these receipts. I'm like CVS. You know, CVS, you go buy one thing from Q-Tip, and you get a thing that come all the way out the door. Yeah. That's me. I got all these receipts. Hold on, hold on. I got some the receipts. Hold on. Hold on.

I got some more receipts for you. You see, all you had to do was just go play. Or I keep receipts. They say you're nothing without Tyreek. You're nothing without this. Okay, you had a game. Oh, you're home field. All you had to do was win.

I want to hear what he got to say. I hate, a part of me hates that you and I are doing this live because I can't hear what he's going to say. Right. But go ahead, Ocho. I'm going to let you take it. I still got some more. I'm going to think about this. I want to say this.

Obviously, you already know. You played in divisions. You understand. You played three teams that are very familiar with you. You played three teams that know all your tendencies. You play against three teams that know exactly what you're going to do, even though you change the formations up. And when you play them, you kind of do the same things with a wrinkle or two and a wrinkle there or two or three plays that are different

than what you normally do. Correct. That interception that just happened different than what you normally do. Correct. That interception that just happened, they knew that was coming. Yeah. They knew that was coming based on formation recognition. And you see it, how he jumped to the goddamn corner route and you beating the goddamn ball to the goddamn receiver. How you beating the receiver to the ball?

Because it's something you've already seen over and over and over because he has to so he has to throw it so much anticipation right for the simple fact he doesn't have a josh allen arm or patrick mahomes arm a guy that can just drive the football so they already know he's gonna let the ball go right so once I see that receiver starting to get out of that break, I'm gone. You're out of there. I ain't even worried about no double move.

I ain't worried about him giving me an out nod and going to the post. That's the last thing on my mind. Because when I watch him from film study, we haven't seen that. Right.

So why am I going to chase the goals? That's what Alex Gill, rest his soul, our offensive line, said we're not going to chase goals. Right. We're going to go by what we see on tape.

And if they give us a wrinkle, we'll come to the sideline. We'll address it then. But we're not going to chase ghosts. We're going to go by what we see on tape, and if they give us a wrinkle, we'll come to the sideline, we'll address it then. But we're not chasing ghosts. We're not going to say they're going to do something in which we haven't seen them do. So I haven't seen them run a double move off that formation in this area of the field. I haven't seen a

double move. So the minute, and guess what? They playing two, man. They under. Oh, yeah. Because where two are going? Where are you going, Ocho? You got to go to the corner. You got to go to the corner. You got no choice.

You got to take the one-on-one. It's the corner route. So what's it safe to do? Sit there, sit there, sit there. I guarantee he probably didn't even, he didn't probably get out of his motherfucking back belt. He probably didn't even back belt. No, because here's the thing, though, Ocho.

The fact of the matter is, I got help underneath. Right. Because it's got to be a perfect throw. Yeah. Because when you play what we call cover five with two men, I got a corner inside that's underneath,

and then I'm over the top. Yeah. And if you miss, and because he had drove so early on the route, you can hit the safety in the chest. Stupid early. I mean, it doesn't make it any better. Obviously, the situation, you got a minute.

I think it might have been a minute and 41 or whatever it might have been to get down the field. You don't have any timeouts. None. And you got to throw towards the sideline. So, obviously, that plays a key factor into, okay, I'm going to gamble. I'm going to sit a little bit because I know they got to get the ball and they got to get out of bounds. But other than that,

man, listen, I would have hoped, I would have thought, obviously, because Josh Allen had two horrible, horrible interceptions. He was out there just playing their throw-up, throw-up tackle.

He just... Yes. In the end zone. He just letting them fly. You know? And he lost the fumble. Yeah, that fumble too. You would think we would have gotten more points out of some of those turnovers.

The Dolphins obviously weren't able to accomplish that. Again, I'm happy for Josh, especially with all the turnovers. All the turnovers he's had this entire goddamn season. They would have made a goddamn buffet out of him if they had lost his game, obviously. And there would have been a lot of questions on his behalf as a quarterback. Yeah, because, again, he would have been smitten

by the interception, by the turnovers. And that's the knock on him. Nobody denies his talent. He's big. He's 6'5", 250, 55 pounds. He can run. He's very difficult. He's a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger with a stronger arm. I'm not saying he's better than Ben, but if you

look at him, big guy, mobile, agile, difficult to bring down. He has a rocket arm. His arm is much more livelier than Big Ben. But at the end of the day, it's the turnovers. He would be in the MVP discussion if he didn't have 20 damn

turnovers. But because he has so many turnovers and they have directly attributed to some of those losses, it's hard for the voters, even though he has great stats. It's just hard to look. It's hard to overcome that. I don't care how many touchdowns he has. When I look at the turnovers and they look at when he throws them or when he has those turnovers. How do I overlook that as a voter? You can't. And again, Ocho, again, Tyreek had a critical job. He hit him on the numbers on the dead run.

He hit him on the run, Ocho. Yeah. He hit him on the run. Now, he swore up and down. He got great hands. You get an opportunity to prove it. He got great hands. You get an opportunity to prove it. He got so upset. I said, I'm not saying you're not a great receiver.

I said, you're more of a body catcher than a hand catcher. That's okay. You get the job done. But you're not as fluid. Like, I look at Devontae Adams as a hand catcher. Right. That's what I look at him as. That's not to say that Tyreek isn't great.

I mean, running backs. Some guys have great speed. Some guys have great vision. Some guys have great change of direction. Right. But I'm just saying, and so when you, when you,

when we evaluate a person, let's just say a defensive, a back, a backer. Right. An edge rusher. Well, he has more bend. The other guy's more of a bull rusher. He's more of an arm over.

He's more of a rip. All I'm saying, I'm just giving you different things that one guy does better than the other. That's not to try to knock it, but you took it as a knock. Bro, you're going to the Pro Bowl. You're an all-pro. You're getting 1,500, 1,600 yards. So clearly you're doing something right. But when you evaluate, you take two cars.

They're both luxury models. You have to like something about one more than the other, Ocho. Right, right. That's all I'm saying. And that's the funny thing when you talk about the top receivers. I'm talking about the very top. I'm talking about the tier one, the cream of the crop, the creme de la creme. They all get the job done

the same way. They all get the job done, but they all skin the cat differently. They all skin the cat differently at the end of the day. At times, you have to be critical of those players at the very top because from the naked eye to the casual fan, they don't know

what separates one. It's up to us to be able to say casual fan, they don't know what separates one. And it's up to us to be able to say, well, these are the pros and cons of each person, even though they get the job done the right way on Sundays. So I'm a better route runner. Yeah. So I'm a better run after the catch. Mm-hmm.

Hey, you're getting the job done. Right. But when we evaluate, I mean, it's like an evaluator. When you're getting the job done right but when we evaluate i mean it's like an evaluator when you evaluate the player and you decide well i'm gonna take this guy over that guy right right okay why did you take said guy over said guy well we like the way he transitioned we like the way he gets in and out of breaks we like the separation we like to change the direction we like the way he high points the ball he catches catches the ball well. That's all those things. As an edge rusher, what do you like?

His first step is everything. His first 10, the way he can bend, the way he can change direction. All those things go into it. And so as you and I, I'm an analyst and I'm looking at it, I'm trying to tell the fan that just,

okay, catch him, oh, he caught a pass or he scored a it. I'm trying to tell the fan that just, okay, catch him, touch him. Oh, he caught a pass or he scored a touchdown. Our job is to tell you why he caught a pass, why he scored a touchdown. What did he do in that situation that allowed him to get open? Right. Why was he able to catch the ball in traffic? Why was he able to do certain things? You look at a Justin Jefferson, one of the three,

I think he's only the third guy to ever have at least a thousand yards in ten or fewer games. The man missed seven games this year, man. The man missed seven fucking games this year, man. Still got a goddamn thousand. Yes! And so when you look at, Ocho, just

look at the guys that went to the Pro Bowl. All of them are totally different. None of those guys are the same. Yeah, most definitely are totally different. None of those guys are the same. Most definitely. None of those guys are the same. But they get the job done. Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. But you know what?

It might be a blessing in disguise because I think clearly to me, and I think to a lot of people that watch the game, study the game, Kansas City isn't the same Kansas City as what we're used to seeing, especially heading into the playoffs. Mahomes has had a down year. The receivers haven't gotten it done.

Offensive line, the penalties, the giving up of the sacks. Like I said, Mahomes hadn't got it done. So it's going to be very, very interesting. Because I think Miami, the thing that Miami can do because they are explosive, their defense has been hampered. You lose Jalen Phillips. You lose Bradley Chubb. Those are your pressure guys. Both of those guys, I think, had 95 pressure.

Both of those guys are your sack guys. So now you're kind of Van Greencourt. I think that's how you say his name, 43. He went out. I don't know if he came back's how you say his name. 43. He went out. I don't know if he came back in, but I know he got Nick and went out. Christian Wilkins is a monster. I play really,

really well. Very good pressure on the quarterback. He's great against the run and he's a good interior alignment and pressure in the quarterback. But is that enough? Consider, but it just might be given the offensive line that they're going to be facing next week, next Saturday night on Peacock.

So I'm anxious to see that matchup, to see how it turns out, because I think this is the first time we can honestly say since Patrick Mahomes has become the starter that going into the playoffs, the Kansas City Chiefs aren't in favor. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It probably is a blessing in disguise. Obviously, the one thing, when I think about the Chiefs defensively, and Ladarius Sneed matches up very well against Tyreek. I think he does somewhat of a great job. Were they playing them early? I think they played them in Germany or where did they play? I think they might have been in Germany as well. I think it was Germany.

Ladarius Sneed is one of them. They jumped out to a 21-0 lead and they ended up holding on 21-14. And I think he's one of the few players I've seen that actually get up in Tyreek's face that chooses to challenge him and really not care. He plays very, very, very physical with

young Bull. He plays very physical with him. Jump jamming, pressing, trying to do all he can to frustrate him. And I'm sure he's going to try to disrupt that timing in the offense again because Tua is a timing thrower. He's a red thrower.

Yes. Timing that offense. So I'm sure that's going to be an issue and a problem. So they're going to probably have to move Reek around and find some mismatches for him to get that team going offensively.

I think Jalen Waddell will also be back. Yeah. Will Mostert be back? They do have A-Chan back. So it's interesting to see because if I'm not mistaken, I don't think A-Chan played when they were overseas. Obviously, Mostert was there.

He was out with his knee. He was out with his knee. He's liked to play a lot of two-man. And I'm not really concerned. You can play that coverage when you don't have a running quarterback. You would never play that coverage against Lamar or Justin Fields. They got to turn their back. You can't

do that. Yeah. I'm not really concerned about Tua. I play that coverage against Tua. I'm not worried about him going anywhere. And if he does, he's not going to get very far. So you play that coverage against quarterbacks that you don't think that can hurt you with their legs. So it's going to be very far. So you play that coverage against quarterbacks that you don't think that can hurt you with their legs. So it's going to be interesting to see.

The Chiefs defense has played outstanding all year long. They've been very good. I was happy to see Chris Jones get that sack, get that 1.25. They were cutting up. Yeah, man. They were happy for him. A guy that plays like CJ does,

you know he gives you everything he got every game. Yeah. And he had to take a little reduction and they put it in the form of incentive. Right. But that was supposed to be his money anyway. Yeah. Yeah. That was supposed to be his money anyway.

But he had to hold out. They chose not to pay him, right? Yeah, exactly. So he on the market. He'll be a free agent. Oh, he will. So it's going to be, are they going to franchise him? I think because of him, I got to sign. I going to be are they going to franchise him? I think because of

him, I got to sign. I got to resign. I got to. I don't know. I got to resign. They like to play games. Listen, why not sign him the first time? Why not sign him the first time this year when you know what you get? Why the man got to hold out all the way

to goddamn training camp just to get his money and you still don't get the job done. He has a hell of a season again to show you his worth and his value. Going to the Pro Bowl, yeah. So listen, if you don't want to sign him,

let the man go. Let the man walk. Let him get what he deserves because they're going to open up. They're going back at the brink. I can't let him go for nothing. You can't let him go for nothing. All right.

Well, do what you need to do. I mean, the draft is coming up you know all i'm saying we're in this relationship now if you go over there with him i ain't gonna play no alimony i ain't gonna play no nothing what you gonna do you want to be over there with him if you want her you got to take on all the responsibilities well listen if you don't want me how you gonna get mad and want something in return when it's time for me to go elsewhere

I don't I might not but I don't want nobody else to have you see I tell you I tell you you know that thing

yeah I know how it works that's crazy that's crazy how that works that's exactly how it works yeah that's crazy listen I don't want you

but I don't want nobody else to have you I think you're gonna resign it he's been too good. He's the only guy on that defense that you really fear, especially with that front seven. He's the guy that if he singles up, he's going to hit your quarterback. Yeah, every time.

He's the guy. Every time. They got some great players, but their great players are reliant on him. He gets the double team and not everybody else. He's the one guy that when you're drawing up, when we come in that meeting room on Wednesday, he's the guy that circles. If we don't stop

him, we can't win this game. We can't run our offense. We have to find a way to neutralize 95. So that's what the game plan is for Miami. Find a way to, where is he at? Identify where 95 is. Okay, we're going to go from there. That's how you're going to do

that. But congratulations Buffalo Bills. Had an up and down season, but when you pushed all the chips to the middle of the table Ojo, and you had to have it, you went on the road, and you won in a hostile environment. You won the division for the fourth consecutive time.

And there are still those questions. The Dolphins have beat one team with a winning record in 2023. One. Yeah. One. One. Ojo, those are the facts.

Yeah. I know you don't remember Dragnet. There was a guy named Joe Friday. And all the things he would always say, just the facts, man. All that other stuff you're talking, just give me the facts. It wasn't Dragnet like there was a guy named Joe Friday. And all the things he would always say, just the facts, man. All that other stuff you're talking, just give me the facts. It wasn't Dragnet like a detective commercial like Columbo. It was. Joe Friday. Just like Columbo.

Yeah, I remember Dragnet. Joe Friday, yeah. Yeah, I remember Dragnet. Okay. Just the facts, man. That's why I just gave you. The Miami Dolphins would beat one team. That was the Dallas Cowboys that had a winning record. And that was in week 16.

So, congratulations. Miami, you got a very short week. You played Sunday night and you got to get on the road and get on the plane and you got to go to the Midwest. Don't know the weather. Kansas City, probably going to be cold. Probably going to be cold. Probably in the 40s. That ain't bad, though.

That ain't bad. I like 40s. That ain't bad, though. That ain't bad. I like 40s. That's football weather. Is it an afternoon game or is it a night game? Or in the afternoon, ain't going to be 40 at night. Right. Okay, let's say about 30. 30 ain't that bad.

That's football weather. You know what the temperature is right now? Right, About 30. Two degrees. Where? In Buffalo? In Kansas City. In Kansas City. Come on, man. I don't even get that cold in Kansas City like that. Two degrees. You said about two degrees

because of the wind chill. I'm talking about two degrees. I don't care what it's because. They say, oh, man. You know what they say? Man, it's that humidity. It don't matter. 120 degrees and twenty degrees of one hundred and twenty degrees. I don't care if there's no humidity, some humidity, dry heat, no heat. One twenty is one twenty. Oh, man, the wind, bro.

After you get to a certain point, you just cold. Your body don't know the difference. You think your body know the difference between zero degrees and minus five no absolutely no it's your cold yeah so uh a play says hey mr sharp what's wrong with the dolphins is it injuries or just bad performing players uh or bad play calling well look everybody's have everybody has injuries yeah Some teams have more injuries than others. I mean, losing Bradley Chubb, who you paid a ton of money to get after the quarterback. Losing Jalen Phillips, who you paid a ton of money to go there and get after the quarterback. That hurt. Because now you're asking your back end to hold up a little longer

because it's going to take you a little longer to get to the quarterback. But it comes going to take you a little longer to put forget to the quarterback right but it comes down to this your best players have to play their best when you need them to yeah and this was a game you needed your best players tua you needed tyreek you needed those guys to play their best right and that didn't happen to tyreek had a touchdown. But Tua didn't have a good game. Tua was 17-27, 173, a touchdown and two picks. That's not enough. Given the type of season that Tyreek has had,

you needed him to be somewhere, Ocho, 10, 12 catches, a buck 50, buck 75, two touchdowns. He needed to have his thumbprint on this game, and it wasn't. You know, and I had half the time with the young fella, young boy,

that just asked about what's the problem with the Dolphins. I don't think ain't nothing wrong with the Dolphins. Ain't nothing wrong with the Dolphins. I think the problem is, and the issue is, as I always say, listen, the Saints played the Falcons today. You saw what the Saints did to the Falcons? What, 41, 41? It was some crazy.

Yeah, 48. It's a division opponent. That's the kind of game the Dolphins need to have today. They need to make a statement. Listen, that's my home team. That's home team. I'm from Liberty City. I want to see the Dolphins win and get into the playoffs.

I want to be able to talk shit, too. I want to be able to counter for the receipts that Tua talks about when I get on with you. Right now, I'm at a loss of words and there's really nothing. You know, I love to defend everybody. I love to defend everybody and I actually can't tonight. I can't. I just can't.

I can't even defend my Eagles. There's nothing I can do. Everything you say, everything you said this entire year has goddamn come true if you really think about it like think about it think about it and I'm trying to defend everybody tooth and fucking nail

week in and week out the best way I can but now my back is kind of against the wall and there's nothing I can do to me or for me I think

like you just said the Dolphins going into Kansas City Tyreek Hill has to put his thumbprint on the game and take it over for me, I think, like you just said, the Dolphins going into Kansas City, Tyreek Hill has to put his thumbprint on the game and take it over. The way Michael... Go ahead. I was just going to say, the way Michael Jordan

take over a game, and the way LeBron can take over a game, like, you know, I'm going to put this on my back, Tyreek got to do that. He got to go to the offensive staff, man. Move me all over the place. Do whatever you need to do. Right now, it's 34 degrees in Kansas City. Okay, I was right.

It's supposed to be two degrees on Saturday night in Kansas City. Oh, coming up? Yes. Yes. Hold on. Wait a minute, Gunk. Like, listen, I'm not the weatherman you know yeah how is it gonna go from 34 and in a week be two degrees kansas city don't even get that cool i can see

if it was buffalo or new england i don't know yeah i could clearly you never played in kansas city but i played in kansas city kansas city get cold as hell yeah it does two degrees two it get a little colder than. And that ground is hard, too. But that's... It used to have turf, but it's grass now. It gets hard there. Let's revisit Aiden's plays. He said, what's wrong with the injury? Bad performance player or the bad play calling?

It's just your expectations. Say hi. The Dolphins have been like this all year. They've been like this all year they've been like this all year it's just that you had expectations of you thought that at some point in time there's nothing wrong with the Dolphins

everything's going to work out I remember I would tell you something man we're only five weeks into the season we're only ten weeks into the season so here we are the regular season is over and we still have those same questions. And so the fans, the expectations haven't changed,

although they've seen the Dolphins do the exact same thing. And so they're expecting to get a better result when they haven't seen that, especially against a team with a winning record, with the exception of the Cowboys. All the other teams that have winning records, they beat them. They beat the Dolphins. And so the fans' expectations are something that the Dolphins' performance hadn't measured up with all year.

Right. The Dolphins' performance and fans' expectations have never been right here. Yeah, they haven't aligned yet. No, they haven't. They haven't aligned yet. No, they haven't. Geos 23 asks, as a quarterback, would you rather have hands, receiver, or a body receiver?

I want a guy to see when I throw in the ball, he's going to catch it. That's it. That's all that matters. Whether you catch with your body, whether you catch with your hands, you think everybody does it different as long as you get the job done at the end of the day. That's all that matters. Whether you catch with your body, whether you catch with your hands, you think everybody does it different as long as you get the

job done at the end of the day. That's all that matters. That's all that matters. The weather determines a lot. I understand that when the weather gets the inclement weather's coming to a play, you try to body catch it, but at some point in time, you're going to ask your

receiver to go up a high point of the ball. You're going to ask him to make a catch in traffic. And that's where you really earn your money. You can have anybody. I mean, anybody can go catch the football. But in the fourth quarter, with three minutes left in the game, Ocho, and it's 36. Does he want the ball? Can I count on you to throw you the ball?

I don't want to aim, man. I don't want to hit on my bad. I don't want to Hey man I don't want to hit no my bad I don't want to hear about a double I'm coming to you I'm going to give you an opportunity To make a play Yeah Yeah

Shit Mother fucker Forget the double It's third and sixth In the strong safety in the box For run support And it's man to man Safety in the middle of the field

Bump and run on the outside It's third and sixth And we call your number What you going to do And it's man to man, safe in the middle of the field. Bump and run on the outside. It's third and six. And we call your number. What you going to do? Can you make a play? Can you get open? Everybody watching.

We know where the ball going. We know where the ball going. What you going to do? That's when you make your money. When the quarterback called a play, it's like church. Can I get a witness? Can I get a witness?

Okay. That's a good one. Okay. That's a good one. Hey, hey, when Sam say, hey T,

I'm coming to you. Yeah. It don't matter. I don't, I don't see, as a matter of fact, I don't see anybody out there. All I know is he called a play. He told me he was coming to me.

I'm going to get open. I'm going to be open. I'm getting open. I'm getting open. I don't care if I got to push somebody down, kick somebody down. I'm going to get that rock. I'm going to get it. Oh, no.

But this is because this is why. This is how you become who you are. In moments like this, I've been very fortunate. You know, we had 36 in Pittsburgh. We had lost momentum who you are. Yeah. In moments like this, I've been very fortunate. You know, we had 36 in Pittsburgh. We had lost more minimum of the game. Right. John called a play.

We didn't even have that play in all. We didn't have that play in that week. Right. We had run the play earlier in the season. Right. But we hadn't run that play for like five or six weeks. Mike was a type of coach that if he put a play in, he might've put that thing in in preseason.

He called it in the game. He expect you to know what to do. Bro, we ain't practice this. Right. Hey, I'm looking back at John. I wish somebody could actually go get the footage and see how I throw my arms up asking John, what do you want me to do?

And he yells, go get open. No problem. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. When I come back, I'm going to have the ball. Right. In the game.

That's it. That's what you got to have. That's the mindset you got to have, Ojo. Check this out. There's something that happened in the game. The Falcons,

the New Orleans Saints were up 41-17. I saw that. Dennis Allen called victory formation. Victory formation. The ball's on like the one or two yard line. Like the one yard line.

Victory formation is the quarterback takes the snap. He takes the knee. Right. Game over. The damage has been done. We proved our point. Jameis would never change. This explains why Jameis Winston is not in Tampa.

This is what explains why Jameis Winston will never be what people wanted him to be because of this. What? The coach called victory formation. He said it was a team decision. What team? There was no defensive players on the field. The team is a team. So the team is just offense now?

No, I mean the offense that was on the field at the time said, you know what, we want to get a touchdown for brother Jamal. That's not what it is. You see? You see? You see what happens when you go rogue? Now, this explains why Baker Mayfield was basically able to take the same team that Jameis Winston has, the same receivers, pretty much the same defense,

Levante David, Devin White, Shaq Barrett, a lot of those same players, and make the playoff, and Jameis couldn't. So I have a question. I got an answer. So you don't agree? You don't like the call that he made? Had I been on that field, when Jameis did that, I would have jumped off sides. On purpose.

And backed it up. Because there's a difference between winning. You see the mindset? That's why Jameis isn't a winner in the NFL. You have a winner's mindset. You have winners. You have losers. It's really simple.

The coach said victory. We up 41-17. And because Jamal Williams hadn't had a touchdown. Now, you look. Oh, he put his blood, sweat, and tears. So, what about week one? Week two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 19,, oh, he put his blood, sweat, and tears. So what about week one? Week two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 19, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. So for 17 weeks, he ain't put no blood, sweat, and tears in it.

That's why. He hadn't scored. You know what? I don't know. Can we take a listen? Hold on. Let's listen to Jameis. Let's let Jameis explain it himself. Well, I apologize to DA because the play was victory. But I also explained to DA that it was a team decision.

And I think when you have a team morale, and I ask the guys, I say, guys, what do you want to do? We know how much Jamal means to this team. And I understood from DA's perspective. So I give him that. But DA didn't condone that at all. You know, he didn't. However, we decided as a team to do it, and, man, we got an interception to the one-yard line.

Yeah. You know, like, so if we would have scored, it still would have been disrespectful. Right. You know, so. Tyron wasn't in on it, was he? No, Tyron was not in on it. No, I'm just kidding.

It was an offensive team discussion. However, when you return the ball to the one-yard line, you have the opportunity. We just had the opportunity, and we decided. Now you see why they went and got Derek Carr. With Jameis Winston on the roster, that's why. And you're paying $40 million. That's why.

No. We, he said, D.A. said victory. But we made a collective decision. Right. That's the difference between winners and losers. Sometimes,

your coach calls something. Sometimes your coach will call something. And the play come in and the quarterback, you know what, y'all? I don't really like that. I'm going to improvise

and I'm going to do this. That's the starting quarterback. That's Brady. That's Manning. That's Mahomes. That's Burrow. That's not a backup quarterback in a victory formation situation, Ocho.

And you know it. That's why Jameis Winston doesn't win in the NFL. Hold on, man. The point of the game is to score as many points as possible. You're on the one with our- Come on, Ocho. Ocho is 41-17.

Oh, 41-17? So why'd he call victory formation? If the objective is to score as many points as possible, why'd he call victory? Let me ask you a question. Yes. It was 41-17 before they scored? What was the score? Before.

Before they scored. Yes. So what's the difference? Hold on. If there was no difference, why did he call victory formation? Add in another seven points? I mean... If the objective is to score as many points as possible, why didn't he call a play? Why didn't

Dennis Allen send a play in? Well, you know the coaches pack. The coaches have a pack. They're unwritten rules. There ain't no pack. Oh, Joe. I'm just asking. No, talk about the coaches pack.

Let me tell you. Why didn't Dennis Allen send a play in? Did you hear what I said? The unwritten rules of football. The unwritten rules that the coaches have. Never run the scoreboard up. So what's the unwritten rules for quarterback? Huh?

What's the unwritten rules for quarterback? Oh, you know, I don't know about that. I play receiver. Well, how do you know about the coaches? You ain't never been no, you know, I don't know nothing about that. I play receiver. Well, how do you know about the coaches? You ain't never been no coach. No, I ain't never been no coach, but I seen coaches come off the sideline and almost getting in fistfights, NFL games.

Oh, so you ain't never seen no quarterback? So in your time of playing, how many times have a quarterback gone against victory formation and did something that wasn't called? Mm-hmm. Hey, what about Dan Marino with the fake spike? On the Jets. and did something that wasn't called. Hey, what about Dan Marino with the fake spike on the Jets? Fake spike and remember that?

They were down. Oh, they were loose. They were down in the game. He faked them out and threw a touchdown. Yeah. I think it was Ingram. Wasn't it Ingram? I think it was Ingram.

Yeah, I don't know. You know, it's funny. I haven't, I really haven't seen the situation happen that much or that often, honestly. It's never happened on show. Okay. That's the first time

of everything. I, you see it as a bad thing. You see it as a bad thing. I don't see it as a problem. If I'm Dennis Allen and I'm the coach, there's no way Jameis Winston's

in that locker room next season. Damn. Huh? No way. And I don't that locker room next season. Damn! Huh? No way. And I don't want him on my team. Are you serious? No way. No way, no how. You can't win with that. You overreacting a little bit, man. Come on, man. That's the type of guy, you see?

That's the type of guy that will get a small contingent that's weak-minded to follow him. That's why he can't win. You ask yourself. You don't think for one second like me and Jameis. I don't like where you're going with this, baby.

I love you. I love you to death, but I don't like where you're going with that. Jameis is a good quarterback. He's a good quarterback that hasn't been superior or great. He's a good quarterback that hasn't been superior or great. He's a good quarterback that hasn't been superior or great. You're not asking the questions. Ask yourself why. Why can't you make the playoffs with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin?

Both guys make the Pro Bowl. When you got Levante David, you got Shaq Barrett, you got Devin White. Why can't you make the playoffs? Because you throw 33 touchdowns with 30 turnovers. That's why. I would not want Jameis Winston on my team. He has a loser's mentality. It ain't no what we decided.

Who left you in charge? You a backup. Since when does a backup get to make effing rules? But, Uncle, you being a little savage. You being a little savage, a little hard on your bull right now, man. No, Ocho. Ocho. I just believe there's a right and a wrong way to do everything.

Right. That is the wrong way. If Dennis Allen wanted him to score, he would have sent a play in. He said he took a knee. He said victory. That means we take a knee. Had I been in the game, I would have jumped off sides.

I'm just telling you what I would have done. I'm not, listen. You would have jumped off sides for real? Absolutely. Absolutely. I tell you what I did. You know what? would have jumped off the side for real? Absolutely. Absolutely. But again, if you don't, I'll tell you what I did. You know what?

We were at, I was in Baltimore. Yes, sir. The Super Bowl. Brian Billick didn't have no rules. We had no curfew and no bed check.

Brian Billick says, I'm going to treat you like a man. Yeah. He says, all I ask is that you ride from the hotel to the practice facility to and from on the team bus.

Guess what? We got some dudes from Tampa. My parents are going to pick me up and I'm riding. I say, no, F you not. I say, Brian gave us one specific rule. He said, we're going to ride to and from practice on the team bus. You will not get your ass in that car with your parents. That will not happen.

Guess what happened? They got their ass on that team bus. If your parents want to get you, they can come to the hotel, get you, and you can go wherever you want to go. But you're not going to do that. That's what leadership is. Anybody can leave in a moment of greatness. And when it's easy, you see it was easy for Jameis to do what he did.

Oh, man, that's your, no, no, no, no, no, no. But when times got tough, when he was in Tampa, how did he do, Ocho? When times got tough in Tampa, you won't tell the people how he did. Why? Because when it got tough, he did things his own way. Can't win like that. You never can. You never that. You never can. You never could.

You never will. There's a reason why. Everybody say, man, Jameis good. They went out and spent money on Derek Carr. Why, Ocho? You don't have, why?

Yeah. Marcus Aurelius said, you ask each particular thing. You ask the who, the what, the when, the where, and why. And then you'll have your ass. Why? I like James.

James has always had a winning mentality. It ain't about like. He's always had a winning mentality. Any quarterback. I like ice cream. I ain't eating it at midnight. Any quarterback has always had a winning mentality. He always does things the right way.

That's not true. He always carries himself the right way. He He always does things the right way. That's not true. He always carries himself the right way. He's always conducted himself the right way. Now, this is one of the few times when it comes to someone's play, I can't critique someone's play. I remember the season. You're more than qualified to do that.

I know I'm more than qualified. He had a great season, but the turnovers hampered him. Why? The turnovers were magnified. How? Why? But he was slinging that rock, though. How many games

did he cost his team with turnovers? That 30-30, he was slinging that thing. Yeah. 30-30. Tommy Boy came in the following year, right? And won the Super Bowl with the same roster he had. Baker Mayfield with basically the same roster that he had. Got one division.

Yeah. Yeah, but listen, I just, I don't know. Either you're going to allow the coach to lead and you follow him or you have nothing. Name something where there's not a leader. In business, in military, what is it where you don't have a leader? And if you don't follow the leader, tell me the success that you're going to have. I feel you. I didn't know you would think like this.

I didn't know you would feel like this about it, though. Let me ask you a question. So Ocho says, you know what, guys? Me and your mom are going out. And don't nobody go nowhere. And your daughter said, well, we made an executive decision. We made a decision. The other kids wanted to go to the movies.

Or they wanted to go get something to eat. Right. How you feeling about that, Ocho? You cool with that? So, me and Real, we going out, right? You said don't leave the house. Okay. And they decide to leave the house anyway.

Yeah. Yeah, but we got a little issue. Wow. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no, no. That's not what you said earlier. We got a little issue.

He made a decision. For team morale. She said, my brothers and sisters, I want my brothers and sisters to look at me a certain way and feel a certain type of way about me. So this is what I did. I know what you said, but this is what I did. Because I'm in charge. Why not? You know what? That's a good one right there too.

Now you got to have a goddamn good damn reason why you did what you did. You got to have a good goddamn reason why you did what you did. Because the Lord was saying we wanted... Were your brothers and sisters hungry? No. I got 11 kids, so it's a whole bunch

of different excuses they can come up with. There ain't no excuses. Because if you tell your kids that they're not allowed to do something and they do it, there's not an excuse they can give me unless there's a life or death situation. There is no way. Yeah. Hey, that's a good one. You know, what's funny is

I didn't think you would feel that bad about this or feel the way you actually feel. And to hear you saying some of the things you're saying, that's like, oh, shit, Unc pissed. He don't like that shit. When I saw it on Twitter, I saw it on Twitter, and I looked. I said, oh, man, that's really dope to get Young Bull,

to get him that little touchdown or whatever it is, whatever the reason behind it is. That man had 17 dope to get young bull you know to get him that little touchdown or whatever it is that you know whatever the reason behind it is that man had that man had 17 weeks to get a touchdown yeah the offense

the way the offense went it just he wasn't able to get it so they had they have no goal to goal situation they have no first and goal from the one

the whole year and then when I looked at it right when I looked at looked at the tweets when I looked at the comments and I was like

oh man and I said like, oh, man. And I said, the caption I put was, you know what, there's an unruly football now. You don't run the scoreboard up on your opponent. When you have the opportunity to kneel the ball or run the clock out, you do so. The whole chat, man, fuck so-and-so. It's the Falcons.

We don't care nothing about them people. Run the scoreboard up. And the point of the game is to continue to score as many points as you can. And if you're on the field and playing defense, stop it. Stop it. So it's like, damn, well, everybody agreeing on Twitter. So I'm thinking you was going to have the same kind of take.

If the clock ain't hit zero, you got to stop it. So I'm just telling you. So now, next time, I'm going to take a cheap shot at you we playing football right? so imagine what happened when you take a victory formation you remember how everybody was up in arms

when Michael Bennett went hard and got his you remember everybody what's the one rule we playing football right? so under no situation so now you get ready to take Oh, that's right. That's right. You remember everybody? What's the one rule? We playing football, right? Yeah. So under no situation, so now you get ready to take it. You take one step and you just like, hey, we take it and do far off and hit you.

You will be like, oh, man. Okay, that's cool. No, you're going to be mad because you said a victory. That's a, hey, bro, we going down. Hey, I'm going down, bro. We good. I done got my chin strap unbuttoned. I done unfastened my shoulder pads.

Hey, I done untook the tape off my hand. good. I done got my chin strap unbuttoned. I done unfastened my shoulder pads. Hey, I done untook the tape off my hand. Normally, I done got my gloves. Hey, I got my gloves in my waist. Roma said, Ocho, you're missing the point. This speaks to how a team is run. Either players don't give a F about the coaching decision or the head coach is a liar. He said it. Even before Jameis said it.

He said the victory formation and Jameis wanted to get the guy a touchdown. He said it. Did the coach have a reaction yet? Ain't nothing he can do. It was done. I know, but I'm saying

after the fact. What do you think? I got a reaction. He ain't going to be back on his team. That's my reaction. Come on. That's how you feel. What do you think the coach is going to to be back on his team. That's my reaction. Come on. I'm telling you. That's how you feel. What do you think the coach is going to say? You think the

coach cares? The coach is upset. He's upset, Ocho. You think so? Because when your kids do things that you've asked them not to do, that's a reflection on you. That tells me you got no control over your kids. When kids are yelling and screaming on the plane or in the airport

or in the grocery store, you looking at the kid or you looking at the parents? Well, I have kids. I'm kind of looking at the kids. Because sometimes kids are kids and all of them ain't going to behave and all of them ain't going to listen. That's just being realistic. Well, I'm just telling what people say. Get your kids under control.

I did not pay $2,000 for first class to hear your kid cry. God, did you pay $2,000 for first class to hear your kid cry yeah did you pay $2,000 no I'm just saying that's what that's what people oh I'm running around

the grocery store I don't have time to be dodging kids this is not an obstacle course your kid's running through the grocery store and I gotta be an obstacle drive like I'm on

an obstacle course to miss them with the buggy right uh Kairu said, you don't know the context, though. The players don't really respect D.A. That's the problem. That's why you're not winning.

See, you don't understand. That's why you're not winning. I don't think that's the issue, though. I mean, listen, a fan saying oh, they don't really... Everybody, every coach, every player, you know, they respect their coach. Come on, man. He's from the outside talking. I'm just going by what he said. Kyro said, D.A. said, you know, they respect their coach. Come on, man. He's from the outside. I'm just talking about what he said.

He's not a – They don't respect the A. It's been that way. There's something going on between the player and the coaching staff on the Saints. Yeah. Jameis took it. So, only two people. Jameis did what he did.

Well, I guess the offensive line because they had block, because normally everybody just take one step, you touch each other, hey, man, hey, good game, stay healthy, hey, we'll see y'all next time, hey, good luck, man, hey, what you got going on, man, hey, congratulations, you got married, you had a kid, whatever the case may be, tell you, if you know the person really well, tell your mom, your dad, hello, tell

the wife, hey, tell the missus, hello, you out the door. Ocho, Ocho, I was not the greatest player. But the one thing that people that played on the team would tell y'all was all about the team. We're going to do it the right way. It ain't going to be no uprising. No, that ain't going to happen. No, we're going to do things the right way.

I was in college, Ocho. And you know, I was in Savannah State. We ain't got no training staff like Alabama. We ain't got no, you know, we ain't with the regular students. Okay, the team talked, well, they got mad because we only got limited supply, so we, you know,

they give us what they got. Now, mind you, Mr. Hubbard, who's head of the kitchen, who's the head of the cafeteria, he would give us steaks on Friday. Right. They mad, talking about, man, I'm tired of eating the same thing every day. Sharp, come, come.

Hey, this is how they approached me. You don't believe I'm lying. Y'all go ask Darrell McCormick. They call him Bucky. They come to my room. Hey, Sharp. Because, you know, most of the time I have my door open. Hey, Sharp.

Hey, about six or seven of them come I had my door open. Hey, Sean! Hey, about six or seven of them come. So I'm laying on my bed, because I normally, I'm laying on my bed looking up at the ceiling. I'm thinking about, you know, I'm thinking about going to the NFL. I'm thinking about something else other than what I've got going on. So I see like five or six of them come in the room. I sit up, hold y'all.

Hey, Sean. I said, what's up? Man, we need your help. I said, said, what's up? Man, we need your help. I said, okay, what's up? Man, we want to boycott the cafeteria. Man, I'm tired of eating the same thing. I said, if y'all don't get y'all cry freedom ass out of my mofo room, I know something. I said, that man give us steak when none of the regular students get steak.

Right. He go out of our way. We're supposed to get a meal, eat, and then come back. A lot of times, he'll give us first and second the one time through. And y'all want to talk about, y'all want to boycott? If y'all don't get y'all cry freedom ass out my room, I know something.

Man, come on. Man, get out my room. And when they walked out, I slammed the door. I tried to break the door to let them know just how disgusted I was. We're not going to do things the wrong way. We don't do things willy-nilly. Jameis Winston was wrong in this situation,

and I would not want him as a teammate. Hey, I guarantee the players on the Saints don't feel like that, though. Doesn't matter. Hey, what if it's an incentive? What if it's an incentive that we don't even know about? What if it's an incentive that we don't even know about? What if it's an incentive that we don't even know about? Oh, Joe. So you couldn't get him

that incentive before you got to 48? They got 41 points at that point. Right. Right. I understand. I understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying

how the players today think, the players on that team, the players in that locker room. I can't answer anything like that. They're not reacting the way... Obviously, it's probably going to be a huge topic tomorrow, I'm assuming.

And I think most of the people on our side, as far as media is concerned or analysts or those that like to critique the game and some of the things that players do are going to be on your side. They're going to be on your side. I'll stand on this island by myself. Phil Zaldala said,

Unk tripping. You play to win the game. Dennis Allen ain't even a real coach. Derek Carr is trash. Shout out to real Jameis Winston. Stop the J-Bo hate.

If Derek Carr ain't a real coach, why Jameis Winston ain't the starter? You know Jameis Winston was there. He's been there for three years.

So why go get somebody else? And remember, remember what was the Jack? He played quarterback, running back, tight end. He was starting over Jameis. If they thought that much of Jameis.

Taysom Hill? Taysom Hill. What that tell Ocho? A girl at your school, you been digging on her. You like her. You like her. Like, hey, what's up? And she go to a neighbor's school and get a boyfriend over there.

And you right there. Yeah. That's what the Saints did. They got Jameis in their locker room. They go out and get Derek Carr. What that tell you, Ocho? I wasn't enough. That's what it told you.

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The Atlanta Falcons head coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's straight. You know who his people are. He good. He good. He's straight. But that tells you everything. That's why I respect him even more.

Because he said, I don't want to go that route. I want to make a name for myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't want to be the business thing. I want to be a coach. I want to be grimy. I want a toe.

You're absolutely right. He probably could have went and be the business thing. I want to be a coach. I want to be grimy. I want a toll. You're absolutely right. He probably could have went into the family business. Wait. His dad is the owner of a started FedEx. Yeah. That's who his dad is?

He just got fired. It ain't been 24 hours yet. The game ain't in. That don't matter. What if the Falcons and Saints played at? They played in Atlanta? They played in New Orleans.

In New Orleans. In New Orleans. In New Orleans. Oh, so they waited until they landed. Yeah, they've been back home. They've been home. Let's move on, Ocho. The Cowboys beat the Commanders 38-10.

Dak didn't want to wear the NFC title, hat, or shirt. He said, we won the East before. The focus is ahead. The focus is ahead. Simple as that. I want something better. In 2021,

the Cowboys was 12-5, lost to the 49ers in the first, in the second round. Second round, right? Yeah, they were lost to the Wild Card game. Anyway, they were 12-5, they lost to the 49ers. 22, they were 12-5, lost to the 49ers. In 23,

2023, they're 12-5. Who do the Cowboys play? They play the Packers. Ooh 23, 2023, the 12 and 5, who do the Cowboys play? They play the Packers. Ooh. Ooh, that's gonna be a good one, boy. Hey, that's gonna be a good one. That's gonna be a good one. Mike McCarthy said

he won't participate in the drama surrounding Packers' playoff game. What drama? What drama? I know that's his old team, but bro, you've been out of there for a minute. Listen, you know who created the drama? You know who created it? An unnecessary noise?

Jerry Jones. Thank you. Jerry Jones. Listen, Dak said what he said already. That needs to be the continuous headline for the remainder of the week until they play. What he said, I don't want to wear any of the NFC stuff. I have my eyes on the bigger prize. I want NFC championship, NFC championship, or Super Bowl.

If it ain't that, I don't want it. So Jerry need to leave it as is. We don't need to hear nothing, no quotes, no statements, no nothing. Jerry got to get his name in the paper. Oh, come on, man. Come on, man. You see Dak? Dak got his name in the paper. Dak said we won, man. Come on, man. You see Dak? Dak got his name in the paper.

Dak said, we won the East before. The focus is ahead. Simple as that. I want something better. Bingo. Nothing else needs to be said from anybody else. That's your leader. Your leader has spoken. Your leader has spoken. Allow that to carry on throughout the locker room. Allow that to be the headlines.

We don't need to hear nothing from the owner. Michael said the regular season is cute, but this is legacy. There is always a term of to be phenomenal or be forgotten. That's me, CD and Dyke. We have all that legacy

to earn the hard way, but that type of Cowboys Hall of Fame, because they saw Emmitt and they saw Haley and they saw all the greats out there when Jimmy went into the ring of fame right that's how you want to be remembered I mean Emmitt those teams that won in the 70s those 70s cowboys with with Randy White and Roger Stahlberg

and Drew Pearson and Tony Hill and Tony Dorsett. Yeah. Those are the ones. Harvey Martin. Those are the ones in the 90s. That's like, hey, you never forgotten. Yeah. You never forgotten. Cemented. That's what it's about.

Right. That's a legacy. Regular season, and Micah's right. Regular season's great. Great. In order to get to the postseason, you have to take care of business in the regular season. But if you want to be remembered,

play great in those games in the postseason. And they'll never forget you. No matter what happens, hey, no matter how many, look, there have been the Bronco teams that was winning when Peyton was there when I showed up I got just as much if not more love

than those guys because they already know what I had done yeah I go back to Baltimore which I don't go back often I get mad love because I was the first one to get it started a mentality a championship way of doing things.

That's what it's... Dak officially led the NFL in touchdown passes this season with 36. Congratulations. He played well. Now, we've seen him play well before. Now, can he use that

momentum from the regular season and launch this team and himself into the playoffs. And you know what they need to do? CeeDee Lamb has had back-to-back weeks of touching and catching 10-plus balls and look how the game turned out.

Yeah. Make your life easy. Make life easy for Dak and tell you to move CeeDee around. Allow him to facilitate. He gets your boy next week, though. Who? Zaire.

He gets your boy next week. That's your boy. Yeah, but that boy could play. I'm talking about man to man. He's sticky with it. That's going to be a good game, bro. He gets your boy next week. That's going to be a good game. bro. That's why I got... He gets the ball next week. That's going to be a good game.

But listen, Zaire don't travel either. So obviously, whenever CD lines up on the outside, well, that's going to be one to watch. That's going to be one to watch. They need to implement. I've been saying this for a long time. You know, you have a TV camera, and most of the time you see a catch

or you see a play that a receiver makes or a play that a DB makes. You always have to wait for the replay. You always have to wait for the replay. They need to implement a camera where you can see everything from jump from the snap of the ball where it highlights the receiver and the db while the play is being called so you can see everything develop from start to end as opposed to okay we saw a touchdown okay but now we got to wait for the replay where you can see it live in action i don't know just like uh, what do you call it,

picture in picture? Like, picture in picture. So in the corner of your screen, you had the receiver and the DB match up and watch things develop, how they got open, how they got off the line, or how the DB, I just, I don't know, it's just a thought. It would be dope to have.

I like the fact that the Cowboys came out and took care of business. They were on a mission from the start. It wasn't no dilly-dallying around. Look, we are a superior team. We're going to show you our superiority early on. Leave no doubt. Because, see, the thing is sometimes, Coach,

the worst thing that you can do for a team is to beat them in a close game. Because now the coach is going to go into the locker room. That's one of the better teams. And you see how close we came to beat them. We cleaned up a few things. We're right there. The Cowboys says, Washington, you got a lot to improve upon. You're not close. Josh Harris is going to clean house.

The new owner of the Washington football team, he's going to clean the house. He's going to clean house. When I say clean house, not only get everything that was in there out, he's going to scrub it down. And bring it his own regime, huh? Bring it his own everything.

Well, how are you sure, though? How are you so sure? I'm about 1,779% sure. I'm infinity sure. There's nothing more than infinity. I'm infinity sure. Okay, more than infinity I'm infinity sure Okay I mean you got sources I got no sources

How am I going to keep a coach With that record I saw no improvement all year Damn Did you see any improvement No But they got one hell of an offense too damn did you see the improvement? no but they got one hell of an offense too boy

they got B enemy when you look on paper let me roll back Jahan Dotson, Brother Samuel Terry McLaurin very decent adequate backfield all you need there's nothing wrong with Sam Howell Terry McLaurin, very decent, adequate backfield.

All you need, there's nothing wrong with Sam Howell. I'm assuming because they stuck with him. I think they had an opportunity to go out and get a quarterback. I'm assuming during the offseason they had an opportunity, but I think they said Sam Howell is our guy. Have we seen enough of him to make a decision and say, okay, you know what, I don't think Sam is the guy. I don't think he's the one for us. They got a top five pick. They're coming out with a quarterback.

Ain't nobody going to be there because Caleb Williams and Drake may going to be off the board. They gone. But here's the thing. Are you willing to trade? Is Russell Wilson better than Sam Howell? Russell Wilson is going to the Steelers. No, they're not relieved.

What if we can trade him? Now, if we can't trade him, I'm going to get something for you, Ocho. Right, right. Yeah, I just, if I was Russell, I wouldn't do it. Because then you just- He ain't got no choice. Well, he does. I think he might have no trade clause.

Exactly. Which is why I say he's going to the steelers you know if you're going to go somewhere he's going somewhere that has a team that is built in somewhat to get to that goddamn playoffs and have opportunity to lombardi he only got so many years left to actually play the game of football actually play the quarterback position right now you're young you're your fourth year and the things aren't working out okay i understand I understand. Okay, I go to the commanders and see what we can do and we can build from there. He don't have that kind of time left. So it got

to be to a contender. And with the way the Steelers looking, they're a goddamn quarterback away now. I like the way Mason Rudolph has played. He's done a great job taking care of the football, but maybe the ceiling. He's already a great job taking care of the football. But maybe the ceiling. Maybe there's a ceiling.

Listen, he's already been there, like you said, with Jameis Winston. Why would they go get Derek Carr if he was already there? Right. Why would they draft Kenny Pickett if Mason Rudolph was already there? Maybe he's not the guy. Hey, bro. Hey, you preach. Hey, I need you to get that to the congregation.

I'm the choir. I sing. I be here every week. I be congregation. I'm the choir. I sing. I've been here every week. I've been here every week for a reason. Give that to some of the ones that only come once in a while. I'm just, I'm just, I'm telling you, I'm going to use what you said. I'm going to use what you said and give it back. All right.

Jacob asks, is Dak elite? The comments are really hyping him up. They even mentioned that, mentioned MVP talk. And I'm a Cowboy fan. Uncle no joke. Well, who, the MVP discussion should be over It's over Who's your MVP? Lamar

Who else? The only question is, is he going to win it unanimously? That's the only question It ain't no question of who's going to win the MVP The question is, is he going to win it unanimously? It's always going to be one idiot. No, I mean, he won it before. He and Tom Brady are the only ones to win it unanimously.

Right. So for me... I mean, when it comes to the voting, I guarantee you it's going to be one idiot. I think they've seen enough from Lamar. You know who the voters are? Who are the voters? It's 50. I don't know. I mean, they're enough from Lamar. You know who the voters are? Who are the voters? It's 50.

I don't know. I mean, normally if you beat writers, I mean, when I was at CBS, I used to be a voter. I used to be a voter. I did. Absolutely. That's why I take it so serious. That's why I watch every game. I study every game.

I voted for the All-Pro team. Yes, I voted. I took it absolutely very serious. Right. And you didn't get him based on name. Like, Buda Baker should not have made the Pro Bowl. Not over Winfield Jr.? Yeah.

I don't know how. If you look at this, what the hell is wrong with me tonight? I'm talking too damn fast. Statistics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that.

Hey, Antoine, Antoine, we're hot, boy. Yeah. You seen his pops? His pops was snapping. He shot up. Right, right, right, right. How you got no interceptions,

no forced fumbles, no fumble recoveries, you missed time with an injury. And it's not, you know, the argument where he was on a winning team. They ain't win nothing. He was injured, didn't have the stats. His team didn't win. That's on reputation.

They need to stop that. That's a reputation. And that happens a lot. So I don't want Antoine, keep's on reputation. They need to stop that. That's a reputation, and that happens a lot. Antoine, keep your head up. This has been going on before I was in the league, during the league, and it's going to continue to go on. There's always going to be a few guys that get in on reputation.

They didn't... And I don't say deserve. Buda Baker did not earn the right to go to Orlando and be an NFC representative in the Pro Bowl. He did not. There's nothing. There's no stat. There's no metric.

There's no stat. Right. There's nothing you can use to say, you know what? He had a better season than Antoine Winfield Jr. None. But that's my only question, Ocho. The only question is, is Lamar going to win the MVP? Now, who

comes in second, third? It doesn't matter. It don't matter. It don't even matter. In a situation like that, first. First matters. Yeah. Because that means you're going home with the award. And I believe Lamar Jackson will win his second MVP in four years.

That's crazy work. Crazy. Let's go. Hey, he's from Florida. Billy lives into the playoffs. Huh? Wow. Ocho, we just hit 700,000 subs.

Hey, I appreciate y'all. I don't even know 700,000 people. I don't even know 700,000 people, but I do now. We just got to make sure you tell your friends and family how good nightcap is. Not just with the sports breakdown, but you

know we got these stories. We ain't even get to the stories tonight yet. Not yet. We ain't even get to the stories tonight. Philly lifts into the playoffs, Ocho. Jalen Hurts, injured. A.J. Brown, injured. I think Devontae Smith got injured.

The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to start 10-1 or better and not reach 12 wins. A truly historic class. I talked about, and I asked this earlier, I tweeted it, and I asked Eagles fans, I said, what's wrong with me, Eagles?

All the fans was pissed. They say, listen, help me find an excuse that I can use tonight with Unk, and all the fans were like, don't find no, and don't get no

motherfucking excuse, tell the motherfucking truth. Tell the truth. They playing like shit. Something ain't working. And I saw all type of quotes and they giving up. The defense to play calling.

It's Matt Patricia. I don't know what the fuck Sirianni ain't doing. The offense is broken. I mean, I'm seeing all type of stuff. So I'm trying to understand. Obviously, last year, the D-line was crazy work.

They was giving people crazy work. The pressures, the sacks. The NFL record with 72 sacks. 70, 70, 70-some sacks this year.

I think they got, what, maybe 30-something, very, very low. They're damn near last statistically on defense in all areas and all phases.

Damn near last. Not even in the middle. At least be in the middle somewhere. I think they 20-something below and damn near everything. Yep. But because the front line is not playing as good as they did last year. Now the back end is being exposed. So that's not playing well.

You got injuries on top of that. Offensively, I don't know what the problem is. I don't know. I don't know what the problem is. I don't know. I don't know what the problem is. You got A.J. Brown. You got Devontae Smith. You got Dallas Dotter, Swift, a pro bowler. No, I don't understand. You start 10-1.

He went to the Pro Bowl. Landon Donovan went to the Pro Bowl. The big right tackle went to the Pro Bowl. Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson. A.J. Brown's in the Pro Bowl. Yeah. Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson. A.J. Brown's in the Pro Bowl. And then they go 10-1. I don't think they have

a defensive player in the Pro Bowl. Well, last year they had a few. Yeah, last year they did have a few. But they go 10-1, right? And then you keep harping on and harping throughout the season listening to winning, but there are holes that I can see.

And every week you keep saying the same thing, but the goddamn Eagles kept on winning. And then what would you do? Listen to me, Eagles fans. Everybody saw this. This is what I want you to write it down, Ocho. I want you to write it down.

You never accept anything in a win. You wouldn't in a loss. Yeah. Yeah. Now, see, when they was winning and I was trying to tell the Eagles, you a hater. You don't like Jalen Hurts.

Eagles, what they say, Eagles, fly, Eagles, fly. I said, okay. I said, okay. Fly, Eagles, fly. Oh, you a hater. You had it against us. You was wrong. Yada, yada, yada. Now, you were right. You were right.

Yeah. Defense is not good. And the problem is that you can't run the ball consistently like you did last year to keep them sorry rascals off the field. So now they're on the field more. So if you're not good, if your defense isn't good, you can't

hide them. Because, I mean, so what? They don't pressure the quarterback consistently. The back end is awful. Awful. Slaves out. Bradbury, I've never really been in love with Bradbury. I don't know people.

Some people love him. But when I watch him, a lot of opening the gate, a lot of missing. The secondary, the linebackers are not nothing to write home about. They got, look, I like Fletch, but Fletch is a little long in the tube. Jalen Carter needs to get in shape. Jordan Davis needs to get in shape. Yeah. I like Hassan Reddick.

That boy nice. You got rid of Montez. I just, I don't know what y'all, so I read it. That boy nice. You got rid of Montez. I just, I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. I do know, but y'all ain't want to listen to me. I've been trying to tell y'all this. Trying to tell y'all. I mean, think of Ocho.

You start 10-1. Right. 10-1 in the first time in NFL history a team has started 10-1 and better and not reached 12 wins. 12 games, yeah. So you got six games. All you got to do is win two games. That's crazy.

You go 1 and 5. The Eagles defense is very good. Jalen Hurst says it's about weathering the storm. It's about not riding waves, never getting too high, never getting too low, keeping the main thing the main thing. All you need is a crumb, an opportunity. It's simple win or go home.

Nothing prior to this matters. Who do the Eagles play? Who do the Eagles got? Who do the Eagles got? Because they're the fifth seed. I'm going to the game. Who my Eagles got? Oh, they got Tampa. Tampa's the fourth seed

They got Tampa Shit they got my dude Baker Mayfield man They got my dude Baker They got Ooh but Mike Evans What Mike Evans Mike Evans look at E

Hey Hey Uh Big Big Big play Slay back He black next week I don't know

He wasn't back today AJ Brown okay They didn't say He hurt his back today. AJ Brown okay? They didn't say. He hurt his knee. I think AJ Brown hurt his knee. Yeah, I saw that. That goddamn drop hip tackle, man. No! No! You say they tackling. You say they tackling. You say lead that play in.

What did I say? I said, as offensive players, when you feel the pressure behind you, let your body go. Let your body go. There's no need to fight that. Stop trying to get all these extra yards just to show you tough and just let your body go and live to see another

down. Live to see another down. Bet you a thousand dollars they take outlawed at tackle. I mean, it's going to be impossible. I'm sure you can just like they did the, uh, what's the worst call? Yeah. Yeah. They can, they can, but it's just what you're going to do is, is you're going to be impossible. I'm sure you can, just like they did. The horse collar. Yeah, they can. But what you're going to do is you're going to see more people getting more yards because now, depending on the angle you're at,

you're going to be afraid to tackle. You're going to be afraid to reach out. I mean, look here. In order to save a touchdown, you're going to drop tackle. Just like in order to save a touchdown, guys, horse collar. There are going to be more touchdowns being scored

because you can't drop tackle based on the angle in which you're coming in. Call the flag. You don't get points for flag. You get points for touchdown. So I ain't going to let you get no touchdown. So I'm going to drop tackle. I understand it's an outlaw tackle, but I ain't giving him no touchdown.

It's just like the guy beat me off the line to get to the quarterback if I'm pass blocking. Oh, you're not going to get it. I'm going to tackle you. Well, you know they're going to make you open up your purse then. They're going to make you open up your pocketbook. Oh, you're going to drop tackle anybody? Okay, here.

Hold this 30. Let me get that 30,000 about you. That's what it is. Let me get that 30,000. There ain't no touchdown. Oh, you're going to do it again? Okay, let me get 50,000 about you. And the third time you do it, you know what?

Hold this six-game suspension in since you don't game suspension in. I ain't giving up no touchdown. So that ain't happening. All three black head coaches led their team to the playoffs. Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles, and Nico Ryan. That's live. That's live.

That don't mean nothing. You think the NFL gonna hire more black coaches? Do I think they coaches? No. Do I think they are? Yes. I mean, statistically, how it's been throughout the years,

you know how that goes. That's what I ask. I don't know how it goes. Do you think they're gonna hire more? Based on this stat, that all three black head coaches made the playoffs,

do you think the NFL will have more black coaches based on this stat? I mean, they may very well. They might, but I just know those that are in position. You said based on, see, now hold on, they might, but you said

based on statistically, that wasn't where you was headed. Well, absolutely not. I mean, it's clear as day. No,, it's clear as day. Maybe. No, it ain't clear as day. I mean, what about somebody just watching this? What about somebody just subscribed?

They're 700 to 1,000th person. This is a nightcap. This is their first time. Yeah. How do owners feel about hiring minority coaches? How they always felt based on the opportunities that minority coaches are given. Normally, it's a team that's shitty as hell.

One of the few times I've seen a minority be hired as a coach and turn around in his first year there is goddamn D'Amico Ryans over there in Houston. Most of the opportunities

that we're given or in positions that are not good. But think about how many times D'Amico Rimes was passed up. Huh? He been leading the 49ers defense. They've been good.

For a minute. For a minute, yeah. Most definitely. Listen, it's hard for us to get those jobs. You know that. You know that. And I'm sure people in the chat, if you don't know,

it's very, very difficult for us to get those jobs, especially in positions like that where you're leaders of men. They give you a job. Where they send Tony Dungeon to at first? Tampa. Right. Yeah.

You know what makes it easy for you, too? The team you get. Yeah. The team you get. Only Mike Tomlin inherited a team. He went to Pittsburgh. Coach Cowell left the cover to stop. He had them boys, boy. He had them boys. Coach Cowell left it well.

But you normally get Herman when you go to the Jets. Yeah. See? See? You know, UAA. Man, I don't even want to open up them can of worms. It's going to be interesting if Steve Wilks gets an opportunity. Hell, he should have been in Carolina anyway.

That's crazy. But again. It's going to be interesting. It'sks gets an opportunity. Hell, he should have been in Carolina anyway. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be very, very interesting to see. Because you see Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. Somehow, given what he had to go through, three different quarterbacks, you know,

Kenny Pickett, Mitchell Trubisky, back to Pickett. Now it's Mason Rudolph. It's going to be, now Trubisky, back to Pickett. Mason Rudolph. Now it's Mason Rudolph in the beginning. It's going to be, now here's the thing, TJ Watt's probably going to miss this game with that knee injury. You think so? Yeah.

Nobody's told us, nobody's told us yet, or there haven't been any reports on how serious it is. If anything, I'm hoping it's a grade one MCL. I think JJ posted something. Didn't JJ Watt post something about, said it's going to be okay for grade two? He said, grade two?

Grade two, probably some rest. And what'd he say, rest and he'll be okay? You know, you know. He tweeted it. There's a little special remedy out there for that too now, you know. Nah, ain't nobody looking going, he ain't letting nobody pee on his knee.

Nah, he's talking about that. That's for ankles. It started with a T. I mean, you know? Nah. Ain't nobody looking going, he ain't letting nobody pee on his knee. Nah, I ain't talking about that. That's for ankles. It started with a T. I mean, you can take it, you can take it, you can take the pill, you can take the needle. Which one you want?

Oh, you're talking about Toradol? Yeah, which one you want? Huh? It's big time now. It's the playoff now. Which one you want? We'll get you out there.

JJ tweeted, best case scenario for TJ, grade two MCL sprain everything else looks pristine a couple of weeks of rest

and recovery couple of weeks we ain't got weeks we need we need we need you look I'm talking about we like I'm part of the Steelers

nah it ain't worth it you saying no it ain't worth it no nah that lower body you don't be fooling

with that lower body. Yeah, I know. You right. You right. Especially the knee. Anything that weighs down, you start getting them knees and you start, uh-uh.

You don't play with that. You right. You right. Ooh. His explosiveness is everything for him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen.

We'll see what happens. We'll see. Who the Steelers got to play again? Oh, the Bills. The Steelers play Buffalo. They go to Buffalo. Hey, what? But. Who do Steelers got to play again? Oh, the Bills. Buffalo. They go to Buffalo. Hey, what if the Steelers mess around and beat the Bills?

It's going to be tough without TJ. All right. Defense playing okay now. They're playing okay. Defense playing okay. I're playing okay defense playing okay did Hendrickson take the lead because I know he had I saw him earlier

I don't know I don't know I know he had 17 he would have had to take the lead he would have had to get three today or the tie he would have had to get two I saw him get one I saw him get one he got 18 then okay I know he has at least 18 it'd be interesting to see did he get did Hendrickson how many sacks did Henderson have

looking it up right now but congratulations Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles D'Amico Ryan blackhead coaches now I'm sure somebody's going to ask y'all not going to say anything about Mike McDaniel because he's 17 and a half

17 and a half oh 17 and a half. Oh, you got half a sec. Damn, man. Mike McDaniel identifies as a minority. I mean. He does? Yeah, I guess. I don't know much about Mike's background.

I like him as a coach. Yeah. Well, he was in Washington. Yeah. All those guys on Mike's staff,. Well, he was in Washington. Yeah. All those guys on Mike's staff when Mike was the head coach in Washington.

Oh, I saw that. Mike McDaniels, Sean McVay. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. All those guys were there. That was really dope. And then when

Kyle went to 49ers, a lot of them went with Kyle. Right. Mike got let go. That's one thing now. Them shanty hats, they loyal now. You look at Kyle's staff. Yeah.

You look at Mike McDaniel's staff. Right. A lot of those guys were with Mike when he was in San Fran, and he brought them with him. Right. And Kyle, some of those guys were in Atlanta. Hey, Bobby Turner was the running back coach when Mike first got to Denver. Right.

Everywhere Mike went, Bobby T went winning. When Bobby T, when Mike went to Washington, Bobby T went. When Mike left, hey, Kyle got the job in San Fran, Bobby T right there. You see how the coaches stick together? You see what I'm saying? You see how if I'm

going somewhere, if I got a job, you're going to always have a job? Always. Now, think about this. Now, that same mentality in other areas and other respective crafts of people's jobs that they do, now you see how

them comedians going at it back and forth with each other? I know I'm off topic a little bit. I know we're talking about football. But you see how you see how they picking each other up no matter what,

no matter where I go I'm taking you to a tree I'm going to make sure you have a job now what if my comedians is going at it back and forth

and taking shots at each other now what if they was the opposite way boy I just got a gig you can't steal my joke hey listen you can't steal my joke

and think you're going to be on my tour with me I'm bringing you with me I ain't finna headline no tour and you stealing my ish and you think I'm bringing you on tour with me

why would I do that I just want to use that example I just want to use that example. I just want to use that example. I'm using it. I'm giving you an example. You just gave a great example of coaches that have been together for a long time

and have ensured come hell or high water that those that they know or that do the same thing they do always had a fucking job. Why are they doing it, Ocho? Loyalty. No backstabbing.

No lying. No talking behind my back. You see what you try to do? You try to make it a situation like, oh, no matter what, you think these coaches are going to take somebody that's been talking behind their back, that's been lying on them? You think they're going to hire them in another situation, Ocho? Come on now, Ocho. So you mean to tell me i'm headlining a tour you done stole my joke you

done talked ish about me and now you want me to put you on hello i don't i don't think that makes sense i i listen i i ain't nobody all that i'm just i'm just i just but. But you say, okay, yes. Yes, I get it. I hit my elbow, man. Hold on. But you also have to understand that when you go with a coach, when you bring him, he's a lead dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely.

Most definitely. Most definitely. I understand. I just hate the bickering. But back to the coaches, man. Just back to the staff. But that was crazy that they've always done that. Or just knowing if you are a coach and you have that knit family, you're always going to have a job. Yeah, but see, the thing about coaching, man.

I just don't like the part you got to uproot, you got to uproot your family and you got to move. You know, Con, I hate that part. That got to be the worst. Look, it's like the military. You already know you're going to move a lot.

Yeah. It's like being a Methodist creature. Unless you're in a great situation. You're going to move a lot. Yeah, unless you're in a great situation with a great team.

Yes. So you're not very fortunate. How many people are fortunate enough to be like Mike Tomlin and you know your family been in one place for 17 years? That doesn't happen like that. Yeah.

But you got to think about it. Mike Tomlin was in Tampa at first. He was in Minnesota next. And then he went to Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah. So see, it wasn't like he started there. Right, you're right. You're right.

Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick was with the Giants. With Cleveland. And then he went to Cleveland. Cleveland. And then he went to the Jets. And then, I then he went to the Jazz. I mean, he went to New England. Then he went to the Jazz. Then he went to Patriots.

So this notion that you start one place and stay there, that's just not true. So you're moving at least at bare minimum two, three times before you're able to get somewhere stationary and stay for an extended period of time. Itaching his head. It's just like the military.

Well, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, I grew up in there. I've been here. No, you don't. You here for two years. You there for three, three, four years and you somewhere else.

Yeah. But you understand, Ocho, that's a part of it. You understand. The wife understands. You need to get somebody to understand. It's going to be okay now, babe.

We're going to move around. Babe, you know I am. I got fired today. You know, I got fired today. It's going to be okay now, babe. We're going to move around. Babe, you know I am. I got fired today. I got fired today. That's tough, though. Yeah. Especially when you got kids, you got a wife, you got to uproot everything. What about the player that's not Ocho Cinco

and Shannon Sharp and Tom Brady and Peyton Manning? What about those guys that's one year here, one year there, been on 75 teams, 16? What about those guys? That's one year here, one year there, been on 75 teams, 16. What about those guys? Journeyman. Yes. Yeah, you right.

You right. That's a tough business, boy. Yes. That's a tough business. And it's like that in real world. There are a lot of people. Hey, everybody don't get to spend a 20-year career

at Apple or Google or, you know, IBM, Salesforce, whatever the case may be. Damn. A lot of times, you get a lot of, well, you know, IBM, Salesforce, whatever the case may be. A lot of times you get a lot of, well, you know, hey, I got a new job. You was in Florida, now you're in Texas, now you're in Ohio, now you're in Georgia, now you're in California, you're

in Oregon, you're in Washington. It just probably, it just happens a little more frequently when you're dealing with pro sports. Because it's kind of like year to year, but who knows? I mean, hey, it's not like, sometimes happens a little more frequently when you're dealing with pro sports. Of course, yeah. Because it's kind of like year to year. But who knows? I mean, hey, it's not like sometimes in the regular world, you know, like,

hey, man, I ain't feeling this job. Hey, I'm up out of there. I don't get to say, you know what? Man, I ain't really feeling this. And I got two, three years left on my contract. Especially NFL. Now, you can do that in the NBA. Say, I ain't having somewhere, you know,

you're a big-time, you know, a big-time player. You can force a trade before more times than not, Ocho, you know, you sign a contract, you're stuck there. Footage has emerged of Cat Williams' claim that he can run a sub-4-5 40-yard dash. Now,

he came on Club Shea Shea and said, you know, he can run, you know, he athletic. He talk about he shoot hoop. So he play like 10 games a day in the yard. He say, you know, he box, he lift a little. He do push-ups and sit-ups and stuff like that. Yeah.

And they had him on the basketball court. And it looked like he was moving pretty good. He was moving pretty good. Man, that was no goddamn fo-fo. Come on now. Man, what kind of, now. Stop playing now. Hold on. How long is the side of a basketball court? I don't think it's 40 yards.

You don't think so? Hell no. Just looking at the video, that's a long way. That's a little ways now. That's a little ways. I don't think that's no 40 yards. I know one thing. That wasn't no goddamn fo-fo. He ain't running that. I know one thing. That wasn't no goddamn 4-4. He ain't running that. I know that much.

That ain't happening. It can't. Yeah, me and Cat. Man, Cat just came up. Club Shea Shea, man. Man, everybody's still talking about that, Ocho. Yeah. That was a good one.

I mean, people. Listen, that's one for the record right there now. Yeah, Ocho. That's one for the record. I'm talking about people that I would never, ever think would know anything

about Club Shea Shea, know anything about no Cat Williams. Right. I'm talking about white people in the airport. Yeah. Yeah.

I just want to say that interview with Cat Williams. Yeah. Man, I... They gave you the thumbs up? Yeah, I'm like... I mean, the pilot. I'm talking about everyone. I mean, thumbs up yeah i'm like i'll be the pilot i'm talking about everyone i'll be the pilot i'm like damn yeah and my assistant was like man i didn't know i'm like

hell i didn't know either right nobody knew nobody knew oh children you do something like that look like i said i've been doing this now for three years cat wins my hundred and second uh sit down and i've had some buyer moments steve harvey's at 10 million views you're about six million you're like 300 400 000 from six million views coach prime is the same thing uh dc young flies at four million i mean we had some breakout clips but the differences between what cat has done cat williams clips, he got breakout clips, which is like seven minutes. That's six. That's six million. Yeah. I mean, a million, five, two million, three million. I mean, I have nothing like this. I mean, I did not. I said, look, I was open for 10 to 15 million. I thought we can get 10 to 15 million. I really did. I honestly thought we could do 10 to 15 million with Cat Williams.

Yeah. But when that thing, when I see 121,000 watching in a chat. Yeah. Now you got to, okay, where can it go? Yeah. And then the first day, you do 5 million? Yeah. You're like, hold on.

The topics. The topics. The things that are being discussed. The things that are being talked about. you know, it commands the ear. It attracts people. Well, I want to hear what he has to say because we didn't know about it. He's exposing and letting the cat out the bag based on what on things that we didn't know about. He does because that's his world.

You're not a part of that world. You don't run in those circles. So you don't know those things. I don't run in those circles. So I don't know those things. So I was part of the hundred and twenty thousand and they got damn chat because I want to know what's going on, too, because I love comedy. I like to laugh. I think I'm funny. Right. Hell shit. So I want to know what's going on in their world for those that are at the top at the top of the food chain and what they do and it was interesting it was interesting I ain't picking no sides cause I know them all I enjoyed that thoroughly I love people's truths I love people's honesty and the thing is

Ocho is about what comedians the one thing that we know and they do very well on my platform DC Young Fly Ricky Smiley Sid Steve we had Jayay farrell right um they all do extremely well because they know how to entertain and what they can do is take true things and make them funny so he's telling you truth but he's making them funny he's making you laugh and all the while you're like but he's telling the truth

now i don't that they i mean that's what the listeners you know some of the comments that i read right right um but it's been it's been i don't think anybody thought this because i mean he was on uh i think he was on mike tyson a year ago or something but he doesn't do a whole lot of sit-down yeah and so that's why I was a little surprised, though, Joe, when it was confirmed, okay, Cat's coming in. Yeah. I'm like, CJ, you sure? So I'm like, man,

let me get her. I want to get her early. Right. Hey, he showed up early. Hit the dough talking-ish. He ready. So I'm like, hey, you know, I'm going to see. I'm going to tell you now, if you don't want me, hey, don't give me he told me, don't pour me none if it ain't good, because I'm going to say it.

I said, okay. I think it's good, but hey, you be the judge. And man, Ocho, like I said, we could have got another 15 minutes while he was standing there, while he was doing this hey, everybody, how you doing?

We asked him to do anything. He need water. I just need a microphone. Yeah. Just go from there. Oh, you can't see me, but y'all saw it. He had it. He's doing this on his pants.

He's rubbing. He's doing this. I said, okay. I said, okay. I said, okay. I said, okay. Let's go. And Jordan laughed. Jordan laughed because Jordan was like, I look back. I look over to my right.

Jordan's shaking his head. I'm like, I'm shaking my head too. Everybody. And then the laughter that you could hear, like when he's saying stuff, they like... He for real, for real. I mean, he being dead serious, but he making it so funny. Right.

Because Ocho, he studied. He knew damn near every person that had been on Club Shea Shea. He could tell you a line of what they said, like, not on camera, but he could say what they said and make it funny. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

But the comedians, he knew everything they had said. I'm talking about damn near verbatim. Yeah. So it wasn't just no thing that, okay, I'm going to study you just so I can... No, no, no, no, no, no. No.

He like, we watch tape. You know how we watch tape? Yeah. And we watch it. We get that tape, we get that film on late Tuesday, no, no, no, no, no. No. He like, we watch tape. You know how we watch tape? Yeah. And we watch it. We get that tape. We get that film on late Tuesday, Wednesday. And we watch it Wednesday at practice and Wednesday at home. Thursday at practice and Thursday at home.

Friday at practice and Friday at home. And then we get it again Saturday morning. And then we get it again Saturday night before we have the big meeting. Right. That's how he studied. He got to. In order to be... In order to be...

In order to come on something and have that kind of impact with what you're saying, you got to have all your I's dotted and all your T's crossed. And that's exactly what he did. And that's the reason

it's gone the way it's gone because he was on point. And he been holding that in for a little minute too now. Well, he said that's what he said. That ain't just started. He been holding that in for a long time waiting for the right opportunity

to be able to get that off his goddamn chest and having your platform where it is now, the timing was perfect. And that's why it's going the way it's going. But if you look at it, he hadn't posted anything since the pandemic. And he posted in three years?

Mm-mm. And so that's why I was surprised when they say it's locked in. When TJ told me it's locked in, I'm like... I say, are you sure? I'm like... So... Because normally what we do is that when we have a guest on, I say, are you sure? I'm like, so, because normally what we do is that when we have a guest on, we'll like send them a link

and ask them to post it. Or we'll try and collab with them. I mean, the collab was him agreeing to sit down. We haven't seen him. We hadn't seen him any links. I mean, 32 million i mean yeah i mean even as it's slowing down ocho it's slowing down to do it we're doing instead of doing the eight the 10 million to 12 million that you did we're doing four or five

million still that's hey that's tough boy that's hey i you you know you know who you would have to you know you would have to talk to or you know the type of person you would have to get to even top that or even come close to that and and and in order to to top it it would still have to be something controversial to get to that point yeah yeah i don't i don't honestly i i can't even i can't even think anybody you'd have to get michael j even think you'd have to get Michael Jordan and he'd have to tell you why he left to get why he retired in 93

and why he left in 98 and go into details about things that he's never shared that's the only thing that's the only way Obama saying the decision that he's never shared. Yeah, that's the only thing. That's the only way. I mean, on LeBron, on LeBron saying the decision,

you know, this is what, you know, I mean, it's going to take somebody that's big and not necessarily, sometimes people think big automatically means views.

It doesn't. It doesn't. Because the person has to be interesting as well. Interesting. And that's what the comedians can do. If you look at who like really does well, it's comedians. Yeah. But the thing is, is that you it has to be an environment where you let them go. See, a lot of times I'm a conversationist, but let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm an interviewer.

Right. I can't make it about, I'm an interviewer. Right. I can't make it about me by constantly cutting him off. Right. Or her off. I got to let them talk. I got to let them get their point across.

I got to let them say because that's the only way. I got to make sure he holds that train of thought or she holds that train of thought. Right. Me constantly interrupting, you know,

then the audience is going to say, man, let him speak, let it talk and it messes up the rhythm and what they're talking about too yes, because the first 30 minutes he unpacked so much in the first 30 minutes it was almost like a little comedy special

in and of itself before I got to the point okay, because at the end of the day we still got to have structure. Right. I can't let it be a whole two hours and 46 minutes of just free-flowing. Right. We got to get structure.

Mm-hmm. Tell us where you're from. Why'd you move here to here? Mm-hmm. Why'd you do X, Y, and Z? Right. Why'd you do, you know, ABC? So we had to have some structure.

So while we let him go for 30 minutes, I felt at that point in time, it was time for me to get it back on the track. Right. And and he was cool with that. And then he's like, it was like, hey, I got my piece in. Now, what do you want to talk about? I like to talk about what you want to talk about. OK, let's talk about this. And I thought he was like some of the stuff. I mean, when you like if you notice you listen to all my guests the one thing that they always say universal you really prepared you done your homework

because we have you got to though you got to you got to you earned their respect they're like okay you prepared and they trust you. Safe place.

They trust you. A man, females, if a man trusts you, there's nothing that he wouldn't do. Women, men, if a woman trusts you, there's nothing she won't do. Well, once that trust is broken?

Listen, she won't do. At all. Once that trust is broken? Boy. Listen. If you on good terms with a woman. Yeah. And y'all might go y'all separate ways. If somebody stepped to her that shouldn't have,

she gonna tell you. And sometimes she won't depending on who it is. And that tells you all you need to know. Huh? And there's one thing about human... It ain't what they tell you, it's what they don't tell you. That's what

should concern you. That's the issue, and that's the problem out there. It's not what you see, it's what you didn't see. For sure. Sometimes you catch something, huh? It's not what you see, it's what you didn't see. For sure. Sometimes you catch something, right? Sometimes you catch something and you see it

and you be like, well, damn, if I saw that a little bit, I wonder what happened that I didn't see. But see, Ocho, you drive yourself crazy with that, though. Oh, yeah. I don't do that now. I ain't got no problem with that. One thing about it, human error is inevitable. Human error is inevitable.

And one thing that I've always been able to do is I'm very good at managing my expectations of those I'm dealing with with great understanding that of human nature, an error is inevitable at some point. Being perfect is damn near impossible. You can strive to be that, but

mistakes are going to happen. It's going to happen. So what I've always done, I've always managed my expectations of hitting everybody. Man, a mistake is leaving your phone in the rental car. Or leaving your computer on the airplane. That's a mistake. Have you wanted to hide?

Falling into some hoo-ha. Or somebody falling into you. You open your leg for another man ain't no mistake. You leave her? What you doing? I'm just asking. You leaving? I'm leaving where?

If you were the woman and she's sleeping with somebody else, you leaving? How long we been at this thing, Ocho? What you mean? The longer you been at it it the harder it is to leave especially if you love her I'm with you when you're right I'm with you when you're right I'm with you when you're right

did you hear managing expectations I think that's one of the things why we hurt so much when someone does something that we don hurt so much When someone does something That we don't expect Or when someone does something That is

Oh I thought you loved me You know They do Yeah listen But I can still love you And do this and that Because there's really no feelings towards

Or in what it is what I'm doing. I'm trying to keep it clean. I'm trying to keep it PG because I know we got my kids watching. But it's I just still think to this fact through experience throughout my years. Yeah, for sure. You know, throughout my years. Chad, y'all stay with me. Stay with me

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Come here now. Because sometimes people say I'm always talking about, hey, real, and you ain't really here. No, come here, baby. Come on, real quick, real quick. You look good. You look good. Don't do me like that. Come on.

Just say hey to her real quick. Oh, you got. Damn, you look good, too. Hey. Hey, real. Yeah. Yeah. That's my baby right there, boy. Yeah, but my thing is, though, Joe, you look good too. Hey, Raya. Yeah. Yeah, that's my baby right there, boy.

Yeah, but my thing is, you can't ask more than you're willing to give. Yeah, you're right. If you do something, if you ask her to, you can't be wrong. Because sometimes I think as a man, it's so one-sided.

Oh, yeah. We always ask for forgiveness and leniency. But if the shoe's on the other foot... Oh, it's a double standard, boy. It's a double standard. You know, fellas don't play that. But if you move funny that way, you got to go. Because I think for us

as men, you can't recover from that. You can't recover from if she goes out and does X, Y, and Z or does some of the things that you've done, oh, now you're up in arms. She did you to you? Oh, now it's a problem? Oh, now it's a problem.

But see, Ocho, but here's the thing. Here's the thing, Ocho. You see, when you date in private, you can break up in private. If something like that happens, you can deal with it in private. But if you date publicly, you got to break up publicly. Yeah. And you have to deal with the infidelity on one side or the other publicly.

Right. Right. Yeah. Robert Smith said, I think it's time for the Jags to cut bait with Lawrence. I like the Eagles did for wins. Get it all before people realize who he is.

He's just Daniel Jones. If Jones was the first overall pick Did he say cut Trevor Lawrence? Yeah, that's what he said He tripping Trevor Lawrence did not play well today He didn't play well today But he got some damn good football

Throughout the year But you talking about cutting Trevor Lawrence because of today's game? I think the thing that hurt so much for a Jags fan, you were 8-3. Yeah. And then once they got to 8-3, the Jaguars sent out a text, I mean a tweet,

purchasing playoff tickets. Playoff tickets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't do that. Hey, do you never count, never count your chickens before they hatch. Ocho. I mean, sometimes, look here,

I don't let my chickens hatch. I smash the eggs. I don't want to take them out. That's what I do for mine, Ocho. I mean, sometimes you look here. I don't let my chickens hatch. I smash the eggs. I don't want to take them out. That's what I do for mine, Ocho. But you see. But Ocho, but you know what happened? You know when you're gambling and you burned them and you touched the money? Yeah.

And you're like, hold on, bro. Let me put my cards down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't touch that. Don't burn the money. Don't do that. Don't burn the money, Ocho. It's over now.

You might as well just go ahead and name. Man, go ahead and touch it. Take it. I don't even want it. No, I don't think that. You don't burn the money, Ocho. It's over now. You might as well just go ahead and name. Man, go ahead and touch it. I'll take it. I don't even want it. No, I don't think that. I think Trevor Lawrence is a good quarterback. Yeah. He's a franchise quarterback at that.

And he just, shit. Talk about cut. Trevor Lawrence. Shit. Justin failed to donate it and said, hey, I'm hoping you guys give my daughter Riley and me, Justin, a birthday shout out. Our birthday is on January 8th

and she's turning two. She's the best birthday present I've ever received. Thanks in advance. Huge fan of you and big Ocho. Justin, happy birthday to you and Riley. Your birthday is tomorrow January the 8th. Congratulations. She's turning two. Happy, happy birthday

Riley. Happy birthday Justin. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Y'all Capricorns, Capricorn, your birthday is on the 8th. I'm on the 9th. I'm going to be 56, so I'm excited. I'm happy. I can't wait. I can't wait until the 2nd. You know what's funny? I got a fly. I'm flying on my birthday,

man. Flying on your birthday? Yeah. I leave them all in the morning. Were you about to shake the covers the night before? With who? Ryle! Oh, no. What do you mean, who? You mean, who? Nah, I'm on my cycle. Man, you about to get slapped in your mouth. Nah, I'm on my cycle.

Hey, let's edit this out. Hey, you better shake the covers before you do it. Not after this. I'm on my cycle. I can't do nothing. Ah! Hey, listen. Before I go to work.

One thing I don't do, before I leave, I leave... Every Monday, you know, I got to fly to Philly. I got to do inside the NFL in Jersey. I never, ever, never, ever partake in horizontal activity before I get on the plane to go to work because I need... I need my mind clear.

I need my mind clear so I can focus and know what I'm going to talk about. What about, let me ask you a question. Before Real go out, you're going out with the girl. Yeah. You just let her go?

Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, I ain't got time for that. Oh, no, absolutely not. Yeah, I ain't got time for that. You better not, hey, what you think about this here? I think it look good.

It's going to be on the floor quickly. Yes, sir. You're going to be on the floor quickly. That's rude. That's rude. It ain't rude. I ain't going to mess her hair up. I ain't going to mess her hair up. I'm going to turn the air on down. I'm going to turn the fans on so it's not about 60 degrees. But oh, yes, sir.

Yeah. Nah, we can't. I don't operate like that. So I do it all up in your face. You all in her face You don't know what she did Before she got there I'm like that for sure Nah, we strict over here We have a schedule

It's on the refrigerator Our schedule? Yeah, we stick by that schedule I woke up, that's the schedule Get it in you It's different over here We got kids, man We got lots So it's you. It's different over here, we got kids, man. We got a lot,

so there's a lot of moving parts over here, so we can't really just be as fun and free as we'd like to. Hey, it's skin 30 for me. Anytime I see skin,

it's on. Skin 30, Ocho. Skin 30. You know what, I'm going to take your advice tonight, then. I don't care. Who tell it? I don't.

Yeah, you're going to rail. Uh-huh. That rail, don't put it in bed. That's what I do it. I do it, Ocho. Hey. Hey, she's drunk. She ain't drunk.

She's drunk. She's drunk. She ain't drunk. If Dallas go through the 49ers, if Juan Cardoza said, if Dallas go through the 49ers but don't win the Super Bowl, is that getting paid again?

Yes, he's getting paid no matter what. Right. And the chain costs more. And who chains cost more, yours or Ocho? I don't know. There's a little something right here. There is a little something.

Hey, you know how I know people You know how I am You know how I am But not spend no money These are one of the few pieces I do own I'm a little Cuban If you If you in the chat

Are you from Miami That's the only way They understand this I'm going to get me one Like Busta got Busta Rhymes You see that B With Busta got

Busta can pull a car With that one That's too much This is my Cuban link right This is from Miss B If you know about Miss. B and Liberty Market, I got this from Ms. B years ago. LaChain Embrace it from Ms. B.

You know, gold don't lose no value. Yeah, gold don't lose no value. It's one of the few things that I purchased that is real. And yeah, I like this. I like this. I normally wear this with my dickies. I normally wear this when I wear my dickies and stuff,

but I just put it on tonight because the baby, no, the baby party was the day. Oh, was it? Yeah, the baby party was the day. She turned, how old, she one? Two. Two? Yeah, she talking.

She talking too. Yeah. Hey, I tell you what else don't lose value. What? Unc. Hey, whoever invested in Unc, the price is going up. Yeah. Hey, yesterday's in Unc, the price is going up. Yeah.

Hey, yesterday's price ain't today's price. Ain't today's price. I like it. Laney Ray, hey guys, congratulations on 700K. Ocho said his stripper name was Twix. Yeah. Shannon, if you had a stripper name, if you were a stripper back in the day,

what would your stripper name be? That's a good one. That's a good one. They're going to call me Black Diamond because I'll be shining. Okay. I like that. Black Diamond. Okay. Coming to stage one.

Hey, boy. Hey, listen, them days when I used to dance the right track was crazy, man. I know. It was crazy. Greatest day. Listen, it's all about survival, man. Where I come from, it's about survival. So you do the things necessary where you need to survive as long as it doesn't put you six feet under or don't have you behind bars.

And I did what I had to do. And dancing in 1997, it built character. It built character for me. And not being shy, it helped me learn to speak in public because obviously, you know, being in the nude in front of women, it helped me be able to speak in front of large crowds. And it just made me different. It made me different. And I got a better understanding as well. Always, as a dancer, the women, the women of size, the women of health, the big bone, they tip good. They tip good.

Because I'm 20, 19, 20 years old and making goddamn $2,500 a night on a weekend. That's a lot of money, boy. But the thing is, but everybody, look, everybody, the thing what women need to understand, everybody ain't fun size. So they be, you know what I'm saying,

don't you? Yeah. I mean, come on now, I understand I'm a fairly large man. I'm about 245, 250. Right, right, right. I'm fairly strong. But now, I mean, to try to hold a woman that's 180, 200 like this here, come on now, come on baby, work with me. Right, right, right, right. The dress or the table, I can't, I mean, to hold you, I don't drop you, but I got to brace myself so I don't throw my back out.

Right. And then don't drop you. Come on, now, work with your man. I understand that look good. I mean, but you ain't 5'2", 120. They got to understand. There are limits. There are limits.

Yeah, they see them look, oh, he had me up on the wash and dry. I was in the kitchen. He was walking all around. What? Where? Hell, I can barely hold your hand. Who you talking about hold your? Oh, he had me up on the washing and drying. I was in the kitchen. He was walking all around. Walk where? Because I can barely hold your hand. You don't know how to hold your... You don't know how to hold you up?

Come on, now. Come on, work with me. Work with me, now. Hey. Hell, no. Hey, that's a good one. Hey, Faye said... Faye said my name, if I was a stripper, would's a good one. Hey, Faye said, Faye said my name,

if I was a stripper, would be Blue Diamond Phillips. Hey, that's a good one. Blue Diamond Phillips. Man, y'all need to stop with that, Ocho. Uncultured J said, Uncle Ocho, who could cook a better breakfast

between you two? Ocho, I ain't gonna lie. You look like the type that turn on the oven light if someone tells you to preheat the oven. Ocho, I already know you can. You look like the type that turn on the oven light if someone tells you to preheat the oven. Ocho, I already know you can't cook.

Who can't cook? Ocho Cinco Johnson. Can I ask you a question? You sure can. You know me. I do. The people know me. The world knows me.

If I don't spend no money, if I don't spend no money, how you think I got the woman? How you think I got my woman? Spend money on her? No. Through her stomach. Through her stomach. I be cooking. I went to

Le Cordon Bleu out here in Miami. I went to culinary art school. That's how you get your woman. You cook, you get your woman through her stomach, not through your pockets. That's how you get your woman. You cook, you get your woman through her stomach, not through your pockets. That's why she here.

I kept her fed. You ain't got no meat like that there, Ocho. Huh? You're talking about eating all your stomach. I don't know what you're talking about. I kept her fed. I'm telling you, I can cook.

Breakfast, lunch, dinner. I mean, what we're talking about, what I think, when you talk about you, okay. I'm going to take your word for it, don't you? Yeah, that's what I do. That what you do? Yeah.

Look, I'm only a breakfast guy. So, you know, French toast, you know, stuff like that. French toast? That's it. That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. So, you're talking about cooking for you, like for you. No, I'm saying things that I can cook

French toast, pancakes I can make breakfast food, grits Stuff like that, I can make breakfast food I ain't finna tell nobody I ain't finna tell no woman, lie to some woman And say, oh, I can cook Or I can kick neck bones Or collard greens

I can't do all that, ain't no sense in me lying But I can have somebody that can oh see you see guys i ain't trying to spend no money i ain't trying to spend no money i i'm i'm cooking for me that's why when that's what i'm with the school for you go to school you learn different types of trades so you don't have to pay nobody else to do it and that's what i did handyman listen not only that, around the house, I do everything. We got sofas.

I built the sofas. We got futons. I built the futons. You come to my house, you better stand the whole while. Don't sit on them sofas. What happened? What happened?

What did happen? You said I never even want you I just said if I was you I would stay with my hands in my pocket I just said it on the show come on man come on man that's on you

You want to sit down Have a seat Hey With somebody Hey have a seat Where should I sit Wherever you tell me I should sit

I'm sitting opposite place Man you Man come on man You shot out Hey What's the funniest story You ever told a girl To go out on a date with you

Funniest story I ever told a girl To go out on a date with you? Funniest story I ever told a girl to go out on a date with me. Funniest story. You know what? I don't have a funny story, but to eliminate rejection and to eliminate her having

the ability to say no, I can tell you what I did to make sure she wasn't able to say no. You put something in her pocket? No. I saw a young lady that I was interested in. And I don't use it,

oh, I'm old. I ain't like that. So, I approach respectful manner. I'm playing around and I got a phone in my hand and I walk up and acting like, you know what, miss, I'm sorry to bother you, but my phone really, it just died real quick

and I just want to make a quick call. It's nothing important. I want to call my grandma. I always say someone important. So there's really no, there's no inclination to be like, hell no, I'm using my phone. I'll say my mama.

I got, I want to call my grandma real quick. Boom. And if she let me, they always, always go for it because I look like it's something wrong. Like, there's really something wrong and I got to make the call. Boom, I sit there,

call, call my phone and wait, it's already back in my pocket and wait, good to the number, wait, good to the ring. I feel the vibration. You know what,

I really appreciate that. Thank you. Wait about five minutes and text and then text. You already got it. So, it eliminates the part of rejection. Right. And you got to go.

Or them giving you a bogus number. You can't. Yeah. No, that too. That's what I'm saying. You don't have to worry about them because you said, okay, they can have your number. That wouldn't happen, though. That wouldn't happen.

But I just, to break the ice. And then now now you you passed stage one now you're on stage two right now the text message you know what i ain't really yeah i ain't really feel like dealing with any rejection or any indecisiveness but now that i do have your number we are going to dinner dinner. Man. I'm not even, no, you're not listening. I'm not asking. I'm saying in the first text message. We going to dinner.

We going to dinner. Why didn't you just have... And I just like that. I've done that before. Why didn't you just say that? Why didn't you say that? I would love to take you to dinner. Nah, nah, nah, nah.

Because I don't like playing that game. When you first meet somebody, I don't like playing that game. They're just indecisive. They overthink it. She should have blocked you. She said you were weirdo. Block. Nope. Nope. Straight to dinner. Hey, it was less than 24 hours. We was out. We was out deep.

Oh, yeah. It didn't take long. You know me. I've been somewhat serious, but I kind of been silly a while. So I was out in Colorado, and this pilot had to be like

90s. So I saw this chick. I bet she had short hair. She had short hair. How you know? I can tell. I just know. Because since you said 90s, I was like, you know what? I bet she had a short hair. She had that thing cropped. But she was, you know, she was Caucasian.

Right. So I, but she was, when I say she was fat. Yeah. Lord have mercy. Yeah. So you know me. Hey. I was like, hey, you know, I say, you know, you know, what's your name?

She told me her name. Yeah. She's, I was like, damn. Girl, I sure want to, I say, I sure want to take you out. Yeah. She said, I've never been out with a black guy. I said, hell, me either. Come on, let's go.

Come on with it. I don't know what you're, I ain't never been out with one either. So that made you over. Come on. We both getting into something new. Hey, she was serious. Was she serious? Was she, she was lying?

Yeah, she was, she was dead ass, yes. She said, I've never dated a black guy before. I said, hell, me either. Come on, let go. Yeah. No. I mean, but I agree with you. I've been very hesitant because I hate saying no.

And then I hate to introduce myself to somebody and to find out they married or they did. I was like, damn. And now I just like... You got to pay attention to the finger. I mean, sometimes they might have been working out or they didn't have their ring on. Okay, okay, okay. Or especially if they got a boyfriend.

I was like, oh. And then, you know... Oh, wait, you know... Let me stop right there. Let me stop right there. Ladies and fellas in the chat, don't let no boyfriend or girlfriend stop you from finding

your husband or your wife. Don't do that. Okay, okay. Ladies and fellas in the chat, don't let no boyfriend... We're talking about boyfriend or girlfriend stop you from finding your husband or your wife

just because there's a goalie in net doesn't mean you can't score just because there's a goalie in net doesn't mean you can't score alright I don't know don't let no boyfriend or girlfriend

stop you from finding your goddamn wife now this right here this right here yeah This right here. Yeah. You already take it. You're off the market. That's off limits.

You're off the market like Boston. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but here's the thing, though. Just because you don't order don't mean you can't read the menu. I mean, you know, sometimes they'll leave the menu

there for you to order. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? They'll say, would you like me to test it? No, I'm still looking. Rae will hit you upside your head. No, she's not. No, we good.

Because with the stuff I'm talking about, this way, oh, this way before she even thought of me. This is all before she slid in my DM being thirsty. Oh, she was thirsty? No, boy, she was thirsty. I'm like, God damn, how many times you going to send me a message? If I saw the first three and I didn't respond, why you send the fourth one? Because then she waited, but then she

all of a sudden, she looked at her cash app, and that thing was overflowing. Like a sink that's backed up, it was just overflowing. No, I ain't got any, listen, I'm like, damn, little mama, just chill, chill, chill.

I get to you, I get to you when I can. That's how, I mean, that's how it was. And she was just, she was all like, you know, I just want to, you know, I wanted to meet you. And I was just like, I would vibe. And I was like, I'm like, damn, thirsty? Yeah.

You feel me? Andre Resto said, oh, the cognac is on point. Ocho, can you say a prayer for my cousin, Lauren Bubba Dotson? Ain't nothing wrong with him. He's just an Eagles fan. Hey, my Eagles gonna be all right, man. Eagles gonna be all

right. They gonna, first round of playoffs, they finna win the game. Winning cures all. Winning cures all. They got to come out and win. They can't, they can't, they can't. They got to. Winning cures all. Dear Uncle Nocho, do athletes have the same fear of returning home after success as rappers due to violence?

With the occurrence of such such Young Dolphs and PNB Rocks death happening consistently. Did you fear going back to Liberty City? Nah, not at all. I mean, obviously, where I'm from, I think the times are different, the eras are different. Now, it just, you gotta

think, when I was coming up in Liberty City, those fellas that was moving like that, you know, there was a huge amount of respect for me even then before I made it. And that huge amount of respect was still there once I left. When I was younger and coming up, me trying to be cool and do what they doing. And, man, if you don't get your ass, I told you, I told you this story before. Man, if you don't get your ass from around here, man, this ain't what you do. You ain't even living like that as opposed to in today's, in today's society or it's more like,

oh yeah, come on. Oh, come on. Hey man, look who hanged up. I'm hanging with such and such. Nah,

they would never let that happen. But them boys ain't play that back then, man. Boy, you play football, man. Count your ass on.

Right. And still to this day and when I made it, it was more out of love when I come home. Yeah, it wasn't like that. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, my homeboys, they was always out of love when I come home. Yeah, it wasn't like that. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I mean, my homeboys, they was always like, hey, hey, you know, I go down there, I pull up, you know, we talk to them. They're like, hey, Sharp, I'm about to make this move, man. I get at you. Yeah, you got to go. I mean, hey, go head on. You get your ass on. And if I see them, if I was somewhere, I say, hey, man, I'm heading back. I'm heading back to town.

You know, y'all need a ride. I say, nah, Sharp, you know what I got on me, man. The last thing I want, you get pulled over. They see me in your car, they're going to pull you over. You're going to be the headline. Bruh, you put Glenville. You and your brother got Glenville on the map. We ain't going to do it.

They looked out for me. So my homies would never go put me in harm's way. But I had the utmost respect. It wasn't like, OK, now I'm this. I grew up with them. Yeah. The only thing that changed, I was in the NFL, but I'm this. I grew up with them. The only thing that changed, I was in the NFL, but I'm still my homeboy. Because

a lot of times when I had to come back, they're like, hey, man, tell him I play. Hey, Sharp, tell him I play ball with you. Tell him I was good. I'm like, man, you all right. Man, come on, Sharp. So it was always like that. I never looked down on them because all of a sudden I was in the NFL or I had a nice

car, but I always treat them the same. I treat those dudes during that era. Obviously, if you know about Liberty City during that time, obviously, people in the chat and people that were probably here, they wouldn't be fond of it, but it was

my surroundings. It's the people that I grew up with. The things that they did, obviously, you wouldn't like, and you would obviously say, well, why do you condone? I'm not condoning the things that they did, but it was all I knew at the time. Those are the people I grew up with. I didn't do the things they did, and it is what it is. So I always consider myself, I left Liberty City without really leaving,

if that makes sense. You get where I'm going? So when I made it to the NFL, I was still a representation of where I was from and I was still me. Mouthful of goals, you know,

the shit talking, the having fun, the playing the game like a little kid and it was cool and I think they enjoyed that the fact that i never did change and i'm not saying i did it for them just the fact that i refused to change and i just stayed true to my authentic self and it was always love and still

to this day yeah you know still to this day well that's how it is uh because even when i left they still looked at everybody looked at they knew my sister they They knew my grandmother. They looked after my sister. They looked after my grandmother because that's the kind of respect that they have for me and my brother. Right. That's the kind of, you know, the way we carried ourselves. We never carried ourselves that we thought we were better than anybody else. But I knew that it wasn't about me and my brother because my sister, my grandmother was still there. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of times my grandmother was home by herself. But knock on wood,

they would have never disrespected me and my brother like that. Yeah. And did something to my, my granny or my, my sister. So I take my hat off to them because they looked after them because, uh, uh, when we were away. Yeah. But you know, we come home, you know, we have, you know, I have a cookout invite everybody over.

Hey, don't bring nothing but your appetite. Yeah. Crab legs, jumbo prawns, hamburger steaks, hot dogs, all the liquor. You name a liquor, I had it. Budweiser, back the truck up, beer, Coors Light.

Coors Light gave me all the beer that I wanted, and we just sit and have a good time. And so they were always... Okay, great. They were always very respectful of and we just sit and have a good time and so they were all okay no i was saying they were so they were always very respected respectful of me and my brother and realized that what we were able to do and you know put glenville on the map and the way we conducted ourselves while you know but they

looked out after my sister my grandmother yeah and you think about it too you know when you're young especially during that time as a little kid, growing up, you want to, especially where I'm from in that area, it's only two ways to go. I wasn't going to be no goddamn academic scholar. We know that. I'm just saying. I got young fellas, man, 14, 14, 15 years old, riding around in goddamn Chevys out, you know, getting money and doing whatever it is necessary. And when you see that as a youngster, what's the first thing you want to do?

You want to do the same thing you're doing because that's what everybody's doing based on where you're from. But the fact that they wouldn't allow me to do that all the way back then because understanding that that's not my lane and that's not what I do

and I was able to make it dude and I still talk to these dudes to this day obviously let me see two of them you know the head honchos they locked up but they were able to get to me you know over the phone we talk about them old time men on Hadley Park

back in the days I would have some good days, man. Some good days. DeJuan Dominique said, as an entrepreneur, Shanna, I need to ask you, why did you sign with the volume? Call him the cool guy, but I feel like you shouldn't have split. You shouldn't have to split anything with anyone, anybody. You build it. Give us insight. Well, here's the thing. Because what transpired at Fox happened so unexpectedly I didn't have I didn't have the infrastructure or the know-how of what I was doing because

Fox was doing everything I was just shooting the content and then we were you know we were splitting it and so I probably should have been thinking but that's on me because I wasn't thinking far enough ahead because I'm thinking everything's going to be gravy for the foreseeable future. Obviously, that wasn't the case. So at the time that it happened, I really didn't have a whole lot of options because I didn't have the infrastructure and I didn't have the know-how to do what I needed to do. Now, you ask me this next year, we might have a different conversation. You ask me about this in two years uh we might have a different conversation you asked me about this in two years we might have a different conversation but being with colin having an opportunity to talk to colin knowing colin a little bit uh from working um at the same company his uh desk a little studio was right across from ours and we didn't converse much, but Colin's always been a big supporter

because even when I was flying my own self out to be on Colin's show, he would always ask, you know, what does he want to talk about? And I would just say, you know, I want to talk about whatever you want to talk about. Football, basketball, it doesn't matter the topic. I just want to talk. I just want to get on television so people can see me talk about something other than football. So if you want to talk about basketball, let's talk about basketball. You want to talk about life, people can see me talk about something other than football right so if you want to talk about basketball let's talk about basketball you want to talk about life let's talk about life but i just wanted to see people let people see that i can talk about something

other than football so he's always been a big proponent of mine and he was one of the main ones like you guys need to hire that guy he's a star and so um it just meant a lot to me that he thought enough of me that i could i could do what i did because there are a lot to me that he thought enough of me that I could do what I did. Because there are a lot. Hold on. Y'all say, why decide with the volume? There were others. I don't need to get into it that didn't want to do it.

Because what Colin said, Colin says, I want to partner with you. I don't want you to come up under me. Everybody else says, well, you come up under us and do X, Y, and Z. No, Colin says, I want to be a partner. I want you to be a partner. Okay. Let's do this. So, it's been great. Hopefully, he's

benefited. I know I've benefited. We've learned a lot along the way, and I think it's been beneficial for both of us. Casey said, hey, Uncle Nocho, how do you figure out what drives you in life, and how do you keep that flame from going out? Love the show. How wise you both are.

It's easy to see where my flame ain't going out and what continues to drive me. I got miles to feed. Forget the bills. I got tuitions to pay. You got to remember I got a son at Arizona State. I have a daughter at Prairie View A&M.

I have a daughter at University of Kentucky. I have a son at Arizona State University. Shit, they go to flame right there. They go to flame. I ain't got time for the flame to go out, mama. Oh, I ain't even finished. Let me start with the Angels. Two-year-old.

I got two-year-old. I got French fry. Huh? Yeah. Baby Kennedy.-old, I got French fry. Huh? Yeah. Baby Kennedy. Baby Kennedy has a sister as well. Cha-cha. My son, 14.

Bertie was on a seven. Man, shit. What keep me going? There you go right there. It's simple. Yeah, I think that's the same thing for me. My desire to be great and anything that i do that too i mean why waste my time if i can't be great at it if i can't be the best at it

not saying that i'm gonna be the best but i'm damn sure gonna try yeah and i'm gonna use every ounce nobody look are there more people that someone might be more talented than me and someone that can create more better content to me that's something that I can't control one thing that I can't control is my work ethic nobody's going to outwork me so what I lack in creativity what I may lack in smarts and know-how

I'm more than make up for it in work and I'm going to have people that surround me that's going to work and I don't want to say don't tell me that's going to work. Right. And I don't want to say, don't tell me it can't be done. Just say, well, Shannon, I haven't done it yet. Right. We haven't done it yet. Or at least try. Yes. Yes. So my motivation is to be great at what I do, to work as hard as I possibly can, to know my grandmother and grandfather looking down, and they're very proud.

To make my sister proud. To make my mom proud, my brother, my kids. People that, Glenville, everything that I do, I'm a representative of Glenville, Georgia. I'm a representative of Savannah State. I want people to look at somebody from an HBCU and say, you know what? He might have

didn't have, but he might have didn't have the best of everything but he made the most of everything that i had and so look and that's what the difference is you know somebody might have went to harvard or yale or nyu or i went to an hbcu right but you won't outwork me because i already know I had it stacked against me from the jump. Yeah, from the beginning. I made it to 55.

I made it to 55. So you mean to tell me I don't think I can accomplish anything I put my mind to? I made it to 55. My dad was 39. He had two brothers that didn't make it to 50. So I already beat it.

Man, I lived almost 16 years longer than my dad. 16. Bro, I can accomplish anything. That's how I approach it. Now, do I sometimes lose myself in the outside world and forget that there's other things

other than work? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And my sister tells me all the time. You got to have balance. You got to have balance. I don't believe there's a balance to greatness. Huh?

I don't believe there's a balance to greatness. Yeah, you can't do that, though. You can't consume yourself. You can't consume. You got to have some type of balance. I think that's where we're going to have to work. That's what we got to work on with you. We got to work on finding some balance in 2024.

Because if you don't have balance and you're trying to always achieve greatness, then you're going to lack in other areas of life as well. That's okay. Okay. Well, who's going to push you when you're 80 then? Who's going to push your wheelchair? That body, you know,

that body ain't thing still gonna work. Yeah, boy. Hey, I push myself. Come on. I've been a fan of that thing. Come on. I had a thing red. Boy, you here. Up and Chad, we love to show a question for uh you say jared's the greatest wide receiver ever

because of all the stats and accolades does that mean the greatest running back of all time is emmett can you give us a shout out much love no jared not only have the greatest uh stamp he got everything i mean so when you base it i mean bar, Barry has just as many Pro Bowls, just as many first-team All-Pros, just as many, I don't know, I think, how many MVPs did Emmitt win? One or two? Miss Biddle is out. Hold on.

Go ahead. How many Barry got? Because Barry got 10 Pro Bowls. How many first-team All-Pros? First-team total. And Emmitt only has two, three, or four All-Pros? So, no, I just think the thing is, from what I saw, no, I don't look at it like that,

because you look at Barry, Barry had more Pro Bowls, more All-Pro selections, than Emmitt. They both had one regular season MVP. Emmitt had a postseason MVP, which was a Super Bowl. But when you look at Jerry, Jerry had 13 Pro Bowls. Randy had six. Jerry had 10. How many All-Pros?

10? 10 All-P all pros Randy had 4 the discrepancy is so vast and the numbers I mean, what, you say Randy got something he lost him, okay

they created the yak for Jerry yards after catch that's Jerry, yards after Jerry. Yards after catch. That's Jerry. Yards after catch. Rack. Run after catch. Come on, man. And that's not like, look, if you like Randy, you like Randy.

But for me, based on what I saw, so, as far as Pro Bowls, Barry has more Pro Bowls than Emmitt. And he played less years. Barry has more All-Pros than Emmitt. And he played less years.

Jerry, at... Randy had his last 1,000-yard season at age 30, at age 32. Jerry had his last 1,000-yard season at age 30, at age 32. Jerry had his last thousand yard season at 40. A Super Bowl MVP, two offensive players of the year. And the man told you he played hard when he want to. The guy asked Ocho, he said said because I said Jerry was the greatest wide receiver because of all the stats

does that mean Emmitt is the better yeah I heard him no because there are a lot of people that said Jim Brown was a better running back Walter Payton was a better running back and that's you know that's I mean Jimmy only played nine years the guy won the

MVP as a rookie tell me the rookie you think is going to come in and win MVP I mean, Jimmy only played nine years. He won the MVP as a rookie. Tell me the rookie you think is going to come in and win MVP. That's what Jim Brown did as a rookie. He won MVP as a rookie. Okay, tell me the rookie that's going to come in and win Defensive Player of the Year. That's what Lawrence Taylor did. Not only did he win Rookie Defensive Player of the Year,

he won League Defensive Player of the year as a rookie. Now, remind you, the sack didn't become an official stat until 1982. LT got in the league in 81. Yeah, you got to be, you know how great you have to be.

You got to be leaps and bounds above everybody else to come in as a rookie. You know, they ain't getting rookies anything. No, you got, I'm talking about you. You got to be leaps and bounds above everybody else to come in as a rookie because you know they ain't getting rookies anything no you got nothing about you earn it you got to be really really really really really really good at what you do yeah really good so that's where i'm at on that oh joe i know i know i know who the greatest receiver of all time is. J.R. Rice? Ocho. I don't know, Ocho.

I think, you know what? I think your title about to be gone in about five more years. What? Jamar Chase gonna be that boy. Shoot, ain't that shit. He that boy now. He that boy before it.

I know who the greatest entertainer of all. I know who the greatest entertainer of all. I know who the greatest entertainer ever that has ever wore an NFL helmet. I know who that is. Whoa, whoa, whoa. See, now you're going too far. See, Ocho, see, you were doing good, Ocho.

I know who that is. I mean, they already voted you for the best. I'm better trash talking to you. That's what they voted. Man, child, please. I'm with the voting. Child, please. The voters laughed. Hold on, we got one more question, Ocho. All right. I'm a devoted child please the voters laugh

hold on we got one more question Ocho you got work tomorrow I do Jimmy Matthew donated he said the question is for Ocho will the wife write a book or do any speaking on her transition from jumping out of airplanes

to a successful business woman I believe her story would be great. Hey, that's a good one. That's a good question. Baby, come here real quick. You got to answer this question. There's a life outside of the military. I'm dead ass here.

I'm not even playing. You got to answer this question because you're better suited to answer a question about you than I am. Nah, go ahead. Tell her again. They asked us a question. They said, are you planning on writing a book

or speaking on your transition from jumping out of airplanes to being a successful businesswoman? Oh, y'all know about me. I thought about it. I probably would. Eventually. Eventually.

That's it? They asked a question. You got to- They didn't say go into detail about why. Oh, okay. Okay. That'll be in the book. Oh, oh. That'll be in the book. You ain't going to be in the book, Coach O.

Who? You. I'm the one going to do the- I'm doing the writing. Oh, Lord have mercy. Bet ain't going to be nothing but some run on sentences. Oh, no. oh lord have mercy bet it ain't gonna be nothing but some run on sentences oh no make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit the subscribe button thank you so much

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