Nightcap - Nightcap - Buccaneers destroy Eagles, Josh Allen & Bills beat Steelers, Ocho's wack hairline

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers taking on Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles in the wild card round of the NFL playoffs, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills beating the Pittsburgh Steelers 31-17, the Atlanta Falcons interviewing Bill Belichick, & much more! 00:00 - Introduction03:00 - Bucs crush Eagles23:00 - Bills beat Steelers36:00 - Belichick interviews with Falcons47:00 - Is Tua the answer for Dolphins01:00:00 - Worse collapse: Eagles or Cowboys?01:07:00 - HBCU memory lane01:29:00 - Wedding advice01:52:00 - Ocho cuts his hair #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I remember our poor told us this Ocho we go way back now I've been trying to tell you the man them boy play impossible the boy play impossible and I also told you I said Ocho Bradbury ain't it Ocho Bradbury ain't it. Yeah. I said, Ocho, Bradbury ain't it.

Now, are you hating? I'm like, guys, I played the game too long. My eyes, you know, they ain't what they used to be. But they not fooling me. Right. Ocho, that was, excuse my language, that was piss poor effort on that tackle. That's like, you know what, hey, we already getting beat.

We gonna go home. Let me have Fancet. The season's over. Yeah. Go ahead. It bothers me. You know how much it pains me to have to be critical of players, be critical of one's play, be critical of coaching.

From the start, it didn't look right. And obviously, I said the team was playing possum, starting 10-1. You started 10-1, everything was good. You lost five of the last six, if I'm not mistaken, like that. So I was very optimistic. I was looking glass half motherfucking full. You know what? They're going to turn it on

when it matters most. Coaching staff, the players, they understand the importance of this game, making the playoff after having success early in the season despite injuries.

They'll find a way to get it done. A.J. Brown is out. Okay, boom. Devontae Smith is there. They have other players. They have other adequate players that can run the offense and often can still be efficient.

But tonight, it seemed like they were damn near outcoached. Forget the play on the field. The play on the field was abysmal. That was atrocious. But the coaching as well, offensively, we ran the ball. We ran the ball, what, twice? And I'm saying we because I'm an Eagles fan too. We ran the ball twice.

We couldn't find a way to run the ball. We couldn't find a way to run the ball. We couldn't find a way to pass the ball. We had no answer for them, for the Bucs. Defensively, we had no fucking answer. We couldn't stop. We couldn't stop the run. We couldn't stop Mike Evans. We couldn't stop Baker Mayfield.

We couldn't stop no goddamn body at all. Nothing. Everything seemed to work. The first four possessions, the goddamn Bucs had the ball. They got points. On the first four possessions, the goddamn Bucs had the ball. They got points. On the first four possessions, we were 0-3, 0-3 on third. What? 0-3 on third down.

The tush push didn't goddamn work. Nothing seemed to work tonight. Since when do teams stop the damn tush push? One of the best things we had going. Well, you knew it was going to be a long night. For the past two years. You knew it was going to be a long night there, though, Joe. The two-inch push doesn't work.

But we couldn't stop nothing. We couldn't stop anything short. We couldn't stop anything intermediate. We couldn't stop the deep ball. I don't know what it was. I think we got outcoached. Not only did we get outcoached on both sides. Hell, fuck that. We got outcoached

in all three phases of the game. We couldn't, the play on the field, it looked like they didn't want to be there. The tackling, we couldn't tackle nobody. What we doing? This is the playoffs.

If there's a time to show up, this is the game you show up. That's your resume. Everybody ain't going to be there next year. What you put on tape tonight, come on now. You can't do that. You got to play, if you're not going to be there next year. What you put on tape tonight, come on now. You can't do that. If you're not going to play for the Eagles, if you're not going to

play for the coaches, you got to at least play for the goddamn name on the back of your jersey. You got to at least play for the name on the back of your jersey. Man, I was pissed for all the way around. Offensively, defensively, hell, shit. Those special teams in there too. And Mike Evans didn't have a great day.

Mike Evans dropped a touchdown early. I thought he was going to have a big day. I just knew Mike Evans was going to have a crazy day. I was like, oh, yeah, Baker Mayfield. I want to give Baker Mayfield some credit because I've beaten Baker Mayfield a little over the last couple of years, and I think I thought he deserved every criticism that I labeled, that I bestowed upon him.

He played extremely well tonight. 22 of 36, 337, three touchdowns. Only the second Bucs quarterback to ever have a 300-yard passing day. The first is Tom Brady. Give him credit. I thought he did a great job of spreading the ball around. Cade Otten was his leading receiver, had 11 targets, eight catches, 89 yards, and then more.

Guys did a great job running after catch because it seemed like the Eagles didn't want it. They thought they were just going to lay down. Okay, I'm going to lean on you a little bit, and you'll just go to the ground. And they didn't do that. But Gil Baker Mayfield, credit. He played extremely well tonight.

Now they go back. I think it's a rematch. I think they played earlier in the year, and Detroit did beat the Bucs earlier in the year. So it's a rematch. But think they played earlier in the year and Detroit did beat the Bucs earlier in the year, so it's a rematch. But think about it, Ocho. The NFC East, both teams lose.

Cowboys lost yesterday and it wasn't close. The Eagles lost tonight and it wasn't close. I mean, what is it about the NFC? What is it about the NFC? You're beating up on bad teams. You're beating up on bad teams in your division is it about the NFC and the teams that play phenomenal? You're beating up on bad teams in your division,

and it doesn't prepare you for the playoffs. You see what happens when you play the Commanders? You see what happens when you play the Giants and you play each other? Now you get into the playoffs, and look what happens, Ocho. Boop, boop, boop. Okay, I'm sorry. See you next year. Yeah, but we playing a nine and eight bucks team.

We playing a nine and eight bucks team where the basic fundamentals of football that you learn when you're in Peewee, that you learn when you're in junior high, that you learn when you're in high school. Simple tackling, wrapping up effort, having discipline. But they hadn't done that all year. Why? Let me ask you a question. So you expect a team or a player to do something one week that they hadn't done in 18 weeks. Is that what you're telling the people? Is that what you want to tell our chat? That's not what I'm telling the people. But I'm just saying, listen, if let's say if we at the YMCA, right?

Yes. And we go and we play 10 games. We play 11 games and we win 10 of them games, right? Yeah. And you understand what you need to do what if you you understand you won 10 but it wasn't enough they're they're holes and why we winning and those holes can get exposed when it matters most right and that's the playoffs so what do you do when you get to that point you know you motherfucking pin your ears back at your position and you do all you can.

The simple stuff, tackling. You start, you learn that in training camp. Ocho. But you're not, Ocho, you're not. Tackling. You've been telling them. They're not even taking the tackles. But you've been telling them you're not going to do anything different than what you normally do.

They haven't been tackling all year. They haven't played good football all year. And when I said you were accepting things and wins, you never would have lost. They said I was hating. You say we win in the ball game. And you told me winning cures a lot. So what does it cure?

You know, when you're winning, you're able to overcome the mistakes and the things that you don't do well or the things that you're not doing well when you're winning. So when you get into the playoffs, when it matters most, you can't overcome those things. You can't. Even against a nine and eight bucks team that played goddamn well tonight. Offensive. They played well tonight. It seemed like the Eagles didn't even show up. Nine points?

Nine points for this offense. Ocho, but here's the thing. Unless you got a very, very mature team and players that really, really care, it's hard to correct players

when you win because they're going to brush you off and say, man, we won. It's hard to correct players when you win because they're going to brush you off and say, man, we won. Man, stop. Right. It's when you lose is that you can get their attention because now, you see, this is why we lost. We didn't do this.

We missed this. We missed that. Okay, we didn't do this on the back end. We didn't do this right here. So, but when you win, you're accepting things because you're winning that you wouldn't have lost. If I

didn't take anything away from Mike Shannon in all my years of coaching, that was the one thing that I took. And it took me a while to understand because I couldn't understand Ocho. The man was correcting me and getting on me. I got eight catches. I got nine, ten catches for a buck eighty. And he's telling me

this effort right here will cost us a game down the road. I'm like, Mike, I got ten for a buck eighty. I led the league in receiving. I'm a tight end. He said, he said, 84. That's not good enough. And once I accepted

that, then I could see the big picture of what it really took to become a champion. And then I could bestow that. Now, I can talk because I was always able to stand. See, a lot of people... See, Ojo, here's the thing.

When I was just having this conversation a little earlier. A lot of people talk. Very few people can speak. Right. Now I'm able to speak and tell the guys, this is what we need to do. This is how we're going to win.

Let's correct the mistakes. Even though we won, let's correct the mistakes. They're small. Small things come large things. So the Eagles, they never, and all their fans, all they cared about was win, win, win. Cowboys, win, win, win.

What couldn't the Eagles do all year, Ocho? Run the football. Run the ball. And they couldn't run it tonight. They couldn't run it tonight. Well, hell, it's very difficult to run on that goddamn, that Bucs front line. Oh, yeah, the Bucs are not an easy team to run on now.

They're not an easy team to run on. But then, okay, if you can't run the ball, you still got to establish something. You got to establish some type of run. They only rushing forward. They only rushing forward and getting pressure every goddamn time. 15 attempts is not enough, though, Ocho. 15 attempts is not enough.

What you going to do with 15 attempts? Not much. Not much because if you want to open up the pass, you ain't got no choice but to run. You got to keep it going. But then you're getting sacked in the backfield. Not only sacked, you're getting pressure when you do drop back. You're going five wide when you try to run it. Every time you try to run it. every time you try to run it.

Man, condense the goddamn splits. Go heavy. Do something. Change it up. You kept doing the same thing over and over and over. You know what the definition of insanity is? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing

over and over, expecting different results. You understand. Know your personnel. Know the team you're playing against. If it's not working with five wide, of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results you understand know your personnel know the team you're playing against if it's not working with five wide take that shit out when you need to run the ball change the formation go double motherfucking tight and hell bring a goddamn fullback and if you got to but you're going five way you're still trying to run draw you're trying to stretch it's not working then third down they bring a pressure and you're throwing screen to the flat. I've never seen the motherfucking

Bucs tackle the way they did. They made every goddamn tackle. Every tackle. They're a good tackling team. But here's the thing, Ocho. Okay, you see they're getting pressure. Get out of that scab protection. Why the hell are you in five wide? You can't protect with five linemen. Now you got to have, go max

protect. You might have to leave a back end. You might have to leave a tight end in and say, okay, we're not going to be able to get five out. We can only get three to four out. Because it doesn't do you no good to empty the backfield if your quarterback's on his back or he's running for his life. I mean, that's simple. I mean, it doesn't make – I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist

to figure that out. We can't hold up with scat protection, which is five wide, which is everybody and all eligible receivers are out and around. And so basically we got five offensive linemen to protect the quarterback. Okay, we can't hold up against that.

So now we've got to give up one of those wide receivers. We've got to give that up to go a six-man protection. It's really that simple. But because, well, this is what we do. Okay, now you got all offseason to figure out what you need to do next year.

Right, but that's where you make the adjustments. That's where you make the adjustments at halftime. Okay, boom, look, we can't run the ball. Okay, all the plays that we do have out of five wide or four or three by one sets everything is deep all the route combinations

in the scheme everything is 12 yards and you don't got no time you got Jalen they making Jalen uncomfortable he has no time to throw he's already in the gun

and running for his life it's simple change the formation condense the splits shorten up the routes make it one two make it one one two three step

get the ball out of his hands right away nigga crosses anything nigga have the short game work the short game more and more and more if

everything they doing is they throwing the ball down the field yeah they running they trying to run digs none of it's working change it

it seems to me team's like okay let's take away his first read get him off his first read Jalen Hurts we're going to get him off his first read and see if he can go 2-3 I'm not giving him he didn't have no time to go 2-3

his first read was number 6 every time. That's the only person he could count on. Right. Look, AJ's out now. So now I'm not really worried about him. Look, I know Julio's there, but that's not Julio from five years ago. He's not that guy.

Goddard couldn't get a rhythm. Quez, Watkins, G Well, it's a curious. No, come on now. So now, I mean, and you can't run the football. So all this now,

a okay, Jalen, I hope you brought your cape with you because they know Clark kid. You got to be Superman for the entirety of the game. Yeah. And it's all on you because we can't run the football and we need you to be special tonight. Minus your Pro Bowl player in A.J. Brown.

Yeah, that's impossible. That's an impossible feat. And we saw this and it's been building up. Sleeve Urkel says the Eagles are 1-5 since Bosa had that Eagles blueprint quote. Nick tried to tell y'all. He said it. He said, we gave teams the blueprint. Now, I don't know what that means.

I mean, I would have to go back and look at the tape, but it seems like, hey, we take away your first read. We're going to pressure you. We're going to condense the pocket. Keep it in the pocket. We're not going to let you just run outside and keep your... We're going to keep you away from your dominant hand. If you force you, we're going to force you to your left and make you throw across your body.

And we're not going to let you jump out the window on us. But I think this is one of the most predictable endings for the Eagles. I think this is predictable. I don't think anybody, I don't even think predictable endings for the Eagles. Right. I think this was predictable. I don't think anybody,

I don't even think Eagles fans thought the season would end any other way based on how the last month and a half of the season went. I don't think they thought it would end any other way than the way it ended tonight. I was hoping,

I was hoping I was right though. I was hoping because of what they were able to do, even though you're saying they didn't beat any good teams when they were 10-1, but they had so many flaws, so many things, even though they were winning. I really thought, I really thought, because, listen, they ain't too far removed from a Super Bowl now. Yeah. They ain't too far removed from a Super Bowl now. Yeah.

They're a Super Bowl winning team. You get to the playoff, you know what it takes. Yeah. So I'm thinking that team is going to show up Defensively They were amongst The last year This year

The front line It hasn't been good They're not getting The pressures Or the sacks That they did last year I think last year They had damn near

70 something sacks This year They ran out 30 something Something like that And what happened is Because the front line Is not being good Not good defensively

Hell Now the back line Is exposed Right Or the backline is exposed. Right. Or the backline can't hold up like they want to and allow the frontline to get there. Yeah. But the thing is, Ocho, the mistake that people make,

people think like if you scale Mount Everest, you get to say I scaled it twice. No, you got to go back down to the bottom and scale it again. So whether you went to the Super Bowl and lost or you went to the Super Bowl and won, that ain't got nothing to do with this season. You've got to start back at the bottom just like everybody else. And there's no

guarantee because you went somewhere last year, you're going to be able to get back there this year. And I think the Eagles thought it was going to be simple. Well, we brought a lot of our key guys back. Man, there's a reason why a whole lot of teams don't repeat. If it was easy, there would be more repeat champions than

what we have. Yeah. Very difficult. It is very difficult. And the crowd shot of Jeffrey Lillard told a story of his night this finish for the Eagles. The agony of a team that started 10-1, the best record in the league at the time, finished 1-5. His face told

you everything. Told you everything. I mean, you know what a once promising season yeah he's probably thinking to himself what what where do we go wrong what what what turn did we take that i didn't see that how we didn't see that sirianni the head coach didn't see what right what happened that caused this series of events? You think Jalen Hurst is hurt? I think Jalen Hurst is injured. I think there's an injury there that he's not talking about that you can clearly see based on his play,

him trying to scramble, him trying to run. He's elusive. He can move a little bit. I'm not saying he's Michael, I'm not saying he's Lamar Jackson. But he has the escapable ability to elude pressure, and it doesn't seem like he can move.

Something is wrong. He didn't look this year, once he hurt that knee, like he looked last year, or before he hurt the knee. But let's not make that an excuse because there are a lot of guys that banged up. I'm not making no excuses.

I'm not making no excuses. I got you. But at the end of the day, Ocho, you know, you got to go get it done because all they see, all the Eagles fans see is one hurts on the back of the jersey. They don't care nothing about that knee brace on his knee. They don't care nothing about that knee brace on his knee

they don't care enough about them fake dislocated fingers on his throwing hand right they just want results we want results and they didn't get the results the last month and a half of the season they didn't get the results they wanted in the regular season and they didn't get it tonight and therefore their season is over so uh uh a very a very very disappointing season for the eagles considering how it started but this is not the finish that they uh uh that they wanted or they hoped for but you know tampa played really really well tonight like i said baker mayfield was unbelievable uh white ran the football well they were over 100 yards rushing. Baker threw the ball with accuracy, with conviction. Guys made plays.

Godwin came with a bomb blitz. Godwin located the ball. Maddox didn't. Moore, great run after catch. Palmer, great run after catch. And that's what happened. So give Tampa credit. Give Baker Mayfield credit.

Give the team the defense got after. Jalen Hurts did a great job of tackling, and they're moving on to face the Detroit Lions next week. Yeah, that's going to be a good one. In Detroit. Yes. In Detroit. Yes, yes.

That's going to be a good one. The earlier game, the Bills beat the Steelers 31-17. There's the josh allen there's the that josh allen there can represent the afc oh yeah when he doesn't turn the ball over and that's the see the thing is it's not like it's not like like you know look turnovers happen but yeah for him they seem to come in bunches because he'll turn one and before before the blink of an eye, it's three. Three, yeah. At the wrong time, too.

At the wrong time. He's taking points off the board because he's throwing interceptions in his own end zone. Yeah. When you're about to, you're going to get three at worst-case scenario. Mm-hmm. But they played well today. Josh Allen, that was a spectacular 50-yard run.

George Pickens rips the refs after the game, saying, refs, refs, refs. That's the only thing on my mind. You're not going to win a game when you have to beat the Bills and the refs. That's what I really feel happened to us today. The refs, I guess the refs made him fumble. He did, you know.

Yeah, I think he's more so talking about that holding call, too. There was a third down. It might have been fourth down. It might have been fourth down on the slant route. It was fourth, yeah. On the slant route. He felt he was held a little bit on there. Didn't he drop a TD catch?

He dropped it? I don't know. I'm asking you. I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just asking. I mean, I ain't see the game. I mean, my TV was freezing up and sometimes I had to come downstairs to rewind. So you tell me.

I ain't see that play. I was on my flight. And, you know, the Wi-Fi, the bandwidth on Spirit, it wasn't that good. But I had my Wi-Fi working, so the game was going in and out. Did he drop one? No, I'm not even playing. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious.

Because my flight left Miami at 3.30. So I actually was on the flight. Ask the chat. Hey, chat, what y'all think? Let me look at the chat real quick. Did he really drop it or it got tipped or some shit? Like, for real. But give the...

Let's get to this game. Let me get the stats pulled up here for you right quick. Oh, Joe. Oh. But still, I mean, the Steelers hung around there. I mean, Mason Rudolph didn't play bad. 22-39, 229, two touchdowns. He had an interception in the end zone.

The guy ran a great, I mean, undercut the route, made a heck of a play. That was a heck of a play the DB made. Man, that was a heck of a play. Listen, a heck of a play the DB made. Man, that was a heck of a play. Listen, the Steelers fought back, though. They showed want to. They showed fight as opposed to what we saw from the Eagles. They were down, listen, down 21 zip. Let me ask you a question. I mean, what's your chance saying? Look at your

chance. See if he dropped that ball. Dropped. Yeah, he dropped it. Dropped it. Dropped it. He dropped that bitch. Damn. Yeah, he dropped it. Uh, dropped it. Dropped it. He dropped that bitch. Damn. Yeah, I ain't, I ain't, I'm honestly, I'm not even playing around. Uh, I was in flight. So the game, the bandwidth on Spirit was a little weak.

So the game kept freezing. Then it come on. Then it freeze and it come on. So it was very difficult to watch. What you talking about, the mariachi band? Huh? You talking about the mariachi band? Because I know you ain't got no broadband on Spirit.

No, no, no. My Fubo app. My Fubo app to watch the game. My flight left Miami at 3.30 to get here to Philly. So when the game started, I was still in the air. Okay. Yeah, but look, the Steelers, I mean, considering what the Steelers, I mean, the Steelers was meddling around,

and then all of a sudden they make enough plays at the end of the season, end up making it to the playoffs. I think they got as much out of this season as they could possibly hope, given the inconsistent quarterback play. More than expected. More than expected, actually. Yeah. Yeah.

Between Pickett and Trubisky, and it took Mason Rudolph coming in and playing extremely well. Give them credit. I mean, they did what I thought they would do. I didn't think they could go to Buffalo and win that ball game. But they had a chance. Maybe a play here or there. Maybe if Rudolph doesn't throw that interception

because the game is really close, and then all of a sudden he turns the ball over in the end zone. But Josh Allen was really good today. 21 of 30, 203, three touchdowns. A clean game. James Cook, 18 carries, 79 yards. Josh Allen,

eight carries, 74 yards. Johnson, eight carries, 26 yards. So when you run the ball like they ran the ball today, it's going to be tough to beat them because now they're going to play action off of that. Now, look, it's hard to account for Josh Allen because, I mean, he can scramble. I mean, that's what he can keep the drive. He can keep the drive a lot.

I mean, perfect coverage. We got everybody deed up. And then he can take off running and he's going to get a first down like he got today. So it's hard. I mean, it's hard to play mobile quarterbacks, and especially with everything on the line, guys aren't sliding. I mean, you saw Mahomes on Saturday night scramble and get extra yards. We saw Josh Allen today.

Go ahead. Yeah, do you see how players are a little bit cautious too? You see how players, the defenders are a little bit cautious and not knowing whether the quarterback is going to slide or not. Right. Oh, should I hit him? Should I not? Because of the way the rules are, because you don't want to get a flag.

Right. So everybody being a little hesitant. That Josh Allen, the Josh Allen run. Okay, dude thudded him up, didn't even wrap him. He bounced right off. Yes. He bounced right off. Yes. He bounced right off. Yeah.

At 6'5", 250. Well, if they throw a flag, they throw a flag off. You got to hit him, boy. Boy, I'm trying to knock the stuffing out of you. You got to hit him. Exactly. And if you don't hit him, you got to wrap him up. Yep.

Because he's going to bounce right off of you. He's going to bounce right off you. So we get the matchup that we thought. We get Kansas City going to Buffalo. We know what the playoffs have been for those two teams. Kansas City knocked Buffalo out of the playoffs two years ago and a year, three years ago. Buffalo is going to get their revenge back.

I think it's going to be a really, really good ball game. The Texans on the road. Lamar Jackson gets an opportunity to see C.J. Stroud up close. C.J. Stroud gets an opportunity to see Lamar Jackson up close. It's the first time that we've seen the Ravens starters in about three weeks. So I'm excited to see how this game unfolds. I know they're anxious. I know Baltimore fans are going to be chomping at the bit

because they've waited a long time to be back in this position get back into the playoffs we're healthy everybody's healthy if i'm not mistaken they designated mark andrews for return already i thought look and this is no slight on Mark Andrews, but I thought his injury really opened up the offense and it forced Lamar Jackson not to be dependent because Mark Andrews wasn't there. So now Zay Flowers, now all the OBJ, Lively, all those guys, excuse me, Likely, got to get some opportunities

where he was so dependent on Mark Andrews, he could know he had Mr. Reliable, but it forced him to go elsewhere with the football. And I thought it made him more of a complete, more of the complete quarterback and it helped this offense. And so it's going to be very interesting to see if he's up this week or maybe they wait another week. And if possible,

we probably hold it, try to hold him off until the Superbowl. If they're able to make it that far. Likely got the hot hand right now too, man. He's playing extremely well. He's playing extremely well. Do you really want to sit him down just because Andrews is coming back?

I understand Andrews is a starter. Yeah, for sure. And he's the one, you know, making the money. You know how that go. The money always got to play. The money always got to play. But, man, Likely is hot right now, man. Oh, he's playing extremely well.

He's playing extremely well. He's played extremely well. He's played extremely well. But, you know, you can never have too many good players on the field at once. Right. And if you know Mark Andrews can come back and he can protect himself and he can do the things that he normally could do prior to this injury, I don't see why you wouldn't have him up. But it's going to be very interesting.

I'm anxious to see. I'm anxious to see I'm anxious to see Lamar back in the playoffs again. I know he's anxious. There's a pressure-packed situation. He's going to be the MVP. He's going to be the MVP

for the second time in his career. And the first time, 2019, he was the number one seed. The Tennessee Titans. The thing, I don't know if you noticed this, but if you noticed, when teams are at home, when they get off to great starts, boy, it's hard to hold them down. Dallas got off to that slow start.

Everybody else did the playoff pretty good. They got off to a pretty neat start. You look at the Lions got off to a nice start. The Bucs got off to a nice start. The Bucs got off to a nice start. The Texans just whoo! Off the gate. Out the gate. First play of the goddamn game.

It set the tone. Right. Set the tone. Damn, I'm mad about my Eagles, man. Damn, man. The Chiefs on the road because, you know, Kadarius Toney lined up offside. Come on.

You ain't had to bring that up, man. Oh, my bad. That's Smith, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. That's Smith. You ain't had to do that. You know what, Ocho? It would have been interesting to see

because that would have given Kansas City the lead, but Buffalo still had enough time. I mean, but they didn't have much time. They've been like 20-something to, what, 30-something seconds? So they had to go down the field. I mean, but Josh Allen is more than capable, more than capable of getting down the field in that length of time and kicking a field goal.

But all is lost. Kansas City is going on the road. For the first time in Patrick Mahomes' career, he's playing a game away from Arrowhead' career, he's playing a game away from Arrowhead. Yeah. He's playing a game away from Arrowhead. That's going to be a good game, boy. I don't think the weather is not going to be as bad

as it was. No. You know, just go around. No. We're going to have clear skies. No excuses. It's going to be a little nippy-o, but no excuses. Yeah. Look, the weather shouldn't impact either quarterback. Both of them got strong arms. Both of them can throw the ball through the, you know,

from sideline to sideline, you know, from hash to sideline. So the weather shouldn't inclement weather. Now, I mean, obviously, Ochoa, the winds start gusting 30, 40 miles an hour, but that's a different fact. That's a problem. But you're talking about five, you know, five, 10 mile an hour winds and cold. It shouldn't have an impact on the ball other than

not them throwing it. Maybe them catching, maybe catching the football in that situation. So we'll see. I'm anxious like you are. There was 125 left in the ball game. So there's more than enough time for Buffalo to go down the field and get a touchdown or who knows, maybe even a field goal just to win it.

Mike Tomlin walks off the podium. Reporter had a question. Mike, you have one year left on your contract. Mike Depp. I mean, as a journalist, why are we not talking about the game? Why are we not talking about the loss?

They had already talked about that. They had already talked about that. They had already talked about that. So, I guess you could, you know, wind it down. Hey, Mike, you got one year left on your contract. Mike just said I'm not going to even entertain that. Yeah. Okay, okay. I mean, rightfully so. If you've already covered the game and everything else

and you got the answers you want to, then I guess asking that and about his future is okay. But the timing of it though, the timing of it, God damn, we just lost. You talk about contract and money already. I don't know.

I guess they have a job to do. They do. That's why they do what they do. They have a job to do. Right. I don't want to say it's unethical, but come on now, there's a time and place.

There's a time and place. Well, the time was there, the place was there because I got him at the podium it's not like i call him on the phone it's a hey mike what's going on with your contract because here's the thing if 5 15 reporters there's only so many ways okay mike what happened in the ball game blah blah blah okay hey mike you know you had this situation and this down in distance and what were you what were your thought process in this? Well, Mike, you had an opportunity. You had a good play call. You got a holding call. So, after 10 different guys, okay, let me go

somewhere. Let me take, let me throw this out there. He might answer. Yeah. But you know what? I think if you dress it up a little different, hey, let's not address the contract and the money that's left. Let's address just your future in general. Do you feel you're still going to be here?

Mike, how do you feel about going into next year? Yeah, that's a better way. But as soon as you bring up money and a coach and like, come on, man. Why are you in my pockets now? Well, the Steelers hadn't fired a coach in 50 years. Do you think Mike shouldn't be fired? No, I don't think he's going to be fired. I mean, he made the playoffs. No, I don't think he's going to be fired

he made the playoffs no I don't think he's going to be fired the foul goes now go ahead I was just going to say what he had to work with with the quarterback carousel and you know the

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I think that Mr. Arthur Smith that'd be good. I think that Mr. Arthur Smith? Arthur Blank. No, not Arthur Smith. Arthur Blank. I got my names wrong. He is one that will allow Bill to do what he needs to do, to do his due diligence as a GM, as a coach, and building

a team that he needs to. Listen, with Bill coming in, if you get Justin Fields, boom. That's one centerpiece out the way. Then look at what he has to work with. You got B. John Robinson. You got Drake London. You have Kyle Pitts. You got Cordell Patterson. You have some great DBs that I like. I love

A.J. Terrell. I love A.J. Terrell and the Young Bull. What's the Young Bull name? Jesse Bates. They got him from you guys. Jesse Bates is there. And isn't Jeff Okuda on the other side of AJ Terrell or am I tripping? He might be but I think he got injured.

Yeah, I think Gary but I mean he is I like that combo. I like that combo but that'd be dope. That'd be dope. I think that'd be a great landing spot for Bill because that's somewhere where he can take control and handle the team and do the things he wants to do

to build a winning team. Or a team that can be consistent especially in that division because that division wasn't very good. It wasn't very good at all. No. And if the Falcons were to trade for Justin

Field, trade the eighth overall pick, Chicago would then have the first overall pick, the eighth, and the ninth overall picks. Ooh, that's nasty. So, they're taking Caleb Williams off the board, number one. Bears, right?

I believe they would. I believe they would. Me personally. But they don't have a choice if Justin Fields goes to... That's my point. They don't have a choice. If you trade a quarterback,

you damn sure taking one. Yeah, you got to. You got to. So that's a no-brainer. Now, Caleb Williams, Drake May. Caleb Williams. Okay. Come on now.

But I think what you're trying to get at is that where they're going to go with the ninth. Do they move the eighth pick and maybe a second round pick to try to move back up to get in position to take Marvin Harrison? Or junior, excuse me. Or do they need to move eight and nine

to move back up into the top five to get him? You have to. I don't think Marvin Harrison get past three. He might not even get past two. But Marvin Harrison is like that. Marvin Harrison Jr. is like that. We talk about a player coming in, playing right now, changing

your franchise, changing your offense, changing the dynamic of your offense right now. Off rip. Same thing with Jamar Chase. Same thing with Justin Jefferson. Players that come in and is ready to play right now. Marvin Harrison might not go past, too. I like Drake May.

I think they pumped Drake May up just a tad too much. I don't think he's going to come in and do what a goddamn C.J. Stroud has done or do what a Jordan Love has done. Make an immediate impact, even though Jordan Love had to sit behind Aaron Rodgers. Nah.

Well, right now, mock drafts have Caleb Williams going one overall to Chicago, Drake May going two to Washington, Jaden Daniels going three to the Patriots, Marvin Harrison Jr. going four to the Cardinals, Brock Bowers, tight end, all-world tight end, going to the Chargers, and Malik Nabors, the wide receiver, going six to the Giants.

I don't, you know, they always take quarterbacks first. That goddamn Jaden Daniels in DC gonna be nice you said the Redskins oh I'm sorry my bad I apologize the commanders pick third right the commanders pick second

Drake May would the mock draft this is just a mock Drake May would go second overall to the commanders Jaden Daniels would go third overall to the Patriots. Jaden Daniels would go third overall to the Patriots. And Marvin Harrison Jr. would go fourth overall to the Cardinals. I would flip that. I would flip that. I would think Drake May would probably go third

and Jaden Daniels would end up in D.C. I can see that. I can see that. I mean, I still don't see Harrison Jr. man You think Washington is going to take back to back Carolina quarterbacks Because they took Sam Howell a couple years ago

And then here is Drake May That's why I flipped it Wait The Redskins picked before the Patriots right Yes I think they take Jaden Daniels And Drake May pick before the Patriots, right? Yes. I think they take Jaden Daniels and Drake May goes to the Patriots.

It's going to be very, very interesting. That's a decision that you look at C.J. Stroud, the Houston Texans say, well, we're going to take whoever you don't want. We're not moving. We're going to sit right here.ans, say, well, we're going to take whoever you don't want. We're not moving. We're going to sit right here.

So if you take Bryce Young, we're going to take C.J. If you take C.J., we're going to take Bryce Young. Right. And it just so happens Carolina took Bryce Young and C.J. was on the board. We took C.J. We ain't look back. We live happily ever after. And then look at what we what we what we.

And they still got Cleveland's first round pick for the Deshaun. Let that sink in for just a second. Yeah. I mean, when you look at, they got, they got Anderson Jr. They got him in the Deshaun trade. They got Nico Collins in the Deshaun trade. They about to get another top flight player into Deshaun trade. They They got Nico Collins into Deshaun Trey. They about to get another top flight player into Deshaun Trey. They made out like

bandits. Yeah. They made out like bandits. With no ski mask. That's what you're supposed to do. If you give up one of these, it's supposed to be. It's the Hershel Walker. Cowboys got over.

They got in. They ended up over. Yeah. They got in. They ended up getting Russell Maryland, got Darren Wood. They built a Super Bowl team thanks to the Herschel Walker trade. Walker trade, right. You see, they've already built a division winner with the Deshaun trade.

Right. And this thing could get even stronger because they got another Cleveland's first round pick this year. So I love what the Houston Texans are doing. I love CJ Stroud to where they're playing. It's going to be very, very

interesting to see what they do moving forward. But on this draft right here, they have Dallas Turner, the edge rusher from Alabama, going to the Falcons. If they don't move, obviously, if they don't move the pick. If they move the pick, who knows what Chicago would do with it. But right now they have Dallas Turner, Edge, Rome, Agunzi, the wide receiver from Washington. Right now, if everybody stayed packed, going number nine to Chicago,

Joe Ott, old tackle from Notre Dame, going 10 to the Jets, and Michael Penix Jr. going 11 to Washington. No, he's going Minnesota. The quarterback from Washington. Right. Going to Minnesota? Yeah. And

Latutu. Latui? How you say that name? He must be Samoa. He's Samoa, huh? Yeah, yeah, man. Latu. I know the last name is Latu. Latu? Latu. But he's an edge rusher

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No, Eagles fans, y'all should make the Eagles apologize for getting y'all hopes up like that. Eagles fans, I was optimistic. I was optimistic, but I'm with you. Fly, Eagles, fly, baby. Dolph, excuse me. Dolphins, huh? Laatu,-too.

La-ah-too. La-ah-too. La-ah-too. That's a lot of L's. Can you say Giannis' last name? Antetokounmpo. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, most people just say Greek freak, but it's Giannis Antetokounmpo. I just say Greek. I say Greek dude. Antetokounmpo. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Most people just

say Greek freak, but it's Yannis Antetokounmpo. I say Greek dude. Antetokounmpo. Okay. Dolphins GM Chris Greer says the goal is to have Tua with the fans long term. Do you believe Ocho Cinco, Miami Native, Liberty City, do you believe

that's the right move long term for the Dolphins? I mean, yeah, there's no other choice. Now, if there were options, if there were options that we could have for Tua, oh no, if there were options for us at the quarterback position, then, okay, it's a question. Is there a trade or

something of some value somewhere else? But no, there's not. What Tua was able to do, he is worthy of an extension. The supporting cast that Tua has around him, they have matured together. They have chemistry. And I think they're going to be all right. He is the future for the Dolphins right now. He's not Patrick Mahomes.

You know, he's not Josh Allen. But in the system that he's in under Mike McDaniels with Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddell, A-Tan, and Mostert, he's extremely well and an adequate quarterback to get them where they need to be. Yeah. I mean, what hurts is they had a three-game lead with five games to play. Yeah. And they had three straight losses. They lose to the Ravens.

They lose to the Bills. They lose to the Chiefs. They got outscored in those games 103 to 40. They're 1-6 versus playoff teams or teams with a winning record. It's 11 straight franchise losses in temp 40 or below. No playoffs win since 2000. That's not all on Tua. No.

But Ocho, with a three-game lead with five games to play, Ocho, you got to get us home. that's not all on Tua. No. But, Ocho, with a three game lead, with five games to play, Ocho, you got to get us home. Yeah. You got to get us home,

Ocho. You got to get us home. You got to. You got to, but, but again, in those games, in those games you talking about,

that Bills game, that Chiefs game, listen, that Ravens game, you talk about making a motherfucker uncomfortable and have him running for his life? It's different, man. It's different.

There are certain teams you're going to play that are going to make things that you do well extremely difficult. And the Ravens defense is one of them. The Chiefs defense is one of them. Did you see Ladarius Sneed the other night? Yeah. I mentioned that the first time they played.

One of the few people that I said that does extremely well when you're playing Tyreek. And he plays aggressive. At the point of attack, he initiates everything first. Instead of it being the opposite way. It's different. Getting Tua off the spot. Yeah. Getting T getting to off the spot. Yeah. Not, not allowing them to get in rhythm.

Right. Just messing up everything. Yeah. I take away first read. Uh, you know, you, you gotta be careful with like when they send Tyreek in motion and they expand, um, they're looking to try to get the ball to Tyreek deep. Uh, they, uh, they, they, they, I think it was Duffy. Uh, Duffy didn't do a great job of of locating the

football tyreek made a great play on the uh uh made a great play on the ball they ended up scoring a touchdown on that but other than that i thought they they uh spagnolo did a great job of of scheming diagramming pressuring him just enough to get him uncomfortable get him off his spot because he's not the most accurate throw of the football on the move. He likes it to be ideal, likes to play in that phone booth. And Spag did a great job of getting him off that spot. But he needs lanes because he's not a Josh Allen. He's not 6'3", 6'5", that he can see over the linemen.

He needs lanes in order to throw the ball through. Can throw a nice deep ball, but normally what you try to do is I try to get him off his spot early. I try to rattle him early. I don't want him to get comfortable. I don't want him to get settled in, and then we're going to play football from there.

But you're probably right. Excuse me, Ochoa. You're probably right, considering that what's available at the quarterback position and considering teams aren't trying to give up those guys because they realize how hard it is to get them and they're not in position because they're at the bottom of the draft you're not in position to draft one of these guys that that probably have a high grade on them so you're probably you're probably going to have to deal with you have to have two or at least two to three

more years yeah most definitely unless you find a gym I mean unless you find you know a Brock Purdy or something like that that comes out of nowhere all of a sudden you never know that's a huge gamble there we just go get a quarterback

you know hey you know hold on yeah and you know, hey, having morale, you know. Hold on. Yeah. Hey, listen. And you know he's special or he's going to be something is when he's slicing up your defense

and scout team. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it all starts. He's slicing up your defense and scout team. And then when the bright light's hitting, you get the opportunity.

Hey, you know that Wally Pipps story. Is that Wally Pipp story. Is it Wally Pipp? Is that Wally Pipp? Oh, yeah. You know the story. Somebody get hurt. You never get your job back. Yep. That's why you think the quarterbacks don't want the other guy to take a snap. Once Brady got that job, he wasn't trying to let nobody.

He didn't want Bill Belichick to see anybody else because he understood how he got the job. Peyton Manning was even taking Neal down. The guys, hey, they're like, no, bro. Uh-uh. Right. Mm-mm. Hey, you better get you a scout team or something like that,

but you're not going to get no reps in the game. No meaningful reps. Reps, right. But the Dolphins, look, the Dolphins had a lot of injuries on the defensive side. And I can explain, and I understand not being able to put the pressure on Patrick Mahomes that they would have liked with Chubb being out,

Jalen Phillips being out, Xavier Howard being out. And they're going to have to make some, you know, make some decision because, you know, Achilles, that's,

that's a serious injury. Very hard to come back from, especially the first year. Cause that first year is normally likeilles that's that's a serious injury very hard to come back from especially the first year because that first year is normally like that's the rehab that's the rehab year ojo it's normally once you're one year removed so you excuse me the second year now you're back to yourself chubb is going to be coming back from an acl probably going to have to have a brace now the fluidity, being able to drop and bend, it's not going to be there like it was maybe after the first year, the second year.

So they got some decisions they got to make, but that don't explain they only scored seven points. I get the defensive side giving up 26 points to my home. Okay, fine. They held in there as long as they could. But what they got to do with my home scoring seven they they held in there as long as they could but what they got to do with my home scoring seven yeah that's the same thing man the deep the cowboys the cowboys defense the cowboys defense you're absolutely right the cowboys defense stunk sucked but

you know dag was allowed to get 48 points too the score at one point was 48 to 16 you know like when when when the packers score you know that's allowed to get 48 points, too. The score at one point was 48 to 16. You know, like when the Packers score, you know, Dak's allowed to score, too. Yeah. This ain't no make it, take it in basketball. When you growing up, we played make it, take it. As long as I keep making it, I keep taking it. Yeah. No, you score a touchdown, Ocho, what you got to do?

Kick it off? You got to answer? Okay. You got to answer. I mean, listen, that Cowboy game, they was off rhythm, man, off the jump. Off the jump. It just wasn't clicking. No, Green Bay's offense was in rhythm.

Six of their first seven possessions, they got touchdowns. Yeah. They got tubs. Man, do you know how hard that is to do, let alone in a playoff game? I'm talking about a regular season game. On the road. Yes. Like that.

Yes. You're supposed about a regular season game. On the road. On the road. Like that. Yes! You're supposed to be at a disadvantage. I told you that's what happens when you got all them young boys out there. Ain't no pressure. They don't know it. Ain't no pressure. Listen, we out here just playing football.

We not even supposed to be here. Yeah. We ain't supposed to be here, but we just out there having fun. Mm-hmm. Happy MLK Day. Hopefully you guys got an opportunity. I don't know how many people had to work.

Maybe you had it off. Unfortunately, I was one of those guys that had to go to work today, but I did take a moment to think and I understand, Ben, I have a minor degree in history, understand the significance of Dr. King and what he meant to a lot of people, not just significance of Dr. King and what he meant to a lot of people,

not just not just people of color, but people that. That society didn't didn't didn't seem to see or seem to have forgotten. And I think sometimes we don't we don't realize what this may, cause he played the ultimate sacrifice. It's one thing to say, well, you know, I,

you know, I, I, I, I picketed and I boycotted and I did all that, but to play the ultimate price, the ultimate sacrifice is your life. Yeah.

And that's what he gave up. And at the time that he was doing it, he was not very popular, even in the African-American community. The same thing with Muhammad Ali, because when Muhammad Ali refused to go to the draft, he says, you know, Viet Cong ain't calling me no N-word.

The Viet Congs ain't spraying water holes and turning their dogs on me. He said, I ain't going over there to kill them. He said, my people right here in the street, they're suffering. But a lot of times, we don't realize, we don't, sometimes we don't realize the sacrifice and how special a person is until years and years and years later.

And then you realize like, man, because think about it. We were talking about it. We were talking about what we were talking about we were talking about the salaries and how, you know, we need to band together and he wasn't doing this for no lot of money.

Nah, especially not back then. Back then, there wasn't no money at all. I mean, yeah, maybe some speaking engagements here or there, but to have the water holes, he got stabbed, he got beat, he got the dogs turned on him, he got put in jail.

So I just hope that people realize what he did, the sacrifices that he and many, many others, not just him, and many, many others that paid the ultimate sacrifice. So, Shannon Sharp and Ocho Cinco and a lot of others get an opportunity that they probably

would not have enjoyed had he not paid the ultimate sacrifice. So, Dr. King, I want to thank you, his wife, Ms. Coretta King, Bernice, I know the daughter, her and I used to text back and forth. Thank you for the sacrifices that your family that your family made for us.

Thank you. And that fight, that fight. We still got a long way to go now. Oh, for sure. We got we got we got a long way to go. Even this late, if you think about it, it's somewhat mass a little bit more as opposed to being at the forefront as it was when Dr. King was marching and preaching. But that same stuff he was talking about and fighting for back then is still prevalent today. Yeah. It's still prevalent today. Again, those that are in positions of power, they don't wear the robes. They don't wear the right robes no more.

They don't. Now right robes no more. They don't. Now they're in positions of power. Sometimes they're judge, sometimes they're in robes. Sometimes they're police officers. I can go on and on about that, but I don't want to make this a political thing. But the fight, we got a long way to go, man.

We got a long way to go, man. We got a long way to go. You know, Ocho, this is, and I said this about a month ago. If you don't, if you're not careful, you need to look around and realize that this is the first generation that started to take things away from you. Because they gave it to us in the 60s

in bits and pieces. They gave us civil rights. They gave us blue voting. They gave us, that was in the 70s, 73. And then they gave us to us in the 60s in bits and pieces. They gave us civil rights. They gave us blue voting. That was in the 70s, 73. And then they gave us voting rights in 65, 66. They gave us fair housing. They started giving us things, but incrementally. Now, look at what they're trying to do.

They're trying to take it back piece by piece. Trying. Oh, they taking it back now. Piece by piece. Piece, yeah. And before you know, like, oh, you're fighting over here and it's like,

oh, they take Roe v. Wade, what Roe v. Wade? All the while, they got another group over here trying to take these voting rights and diversity. Now you see they sued, okay, these companies that had these diversity. Now we suing because there shouldn't be diversity. Now you see they sued, okay, these companies that had the diversity.

Now we suing because there shouldn't be diversity. Yeah. So come on, come on, Gen Z. And what about school? History lessons, what you're allowed to teach now? They're erasing what we're allowed to teach the kids. They're trying to erase history in general. Oh, yeah.

Like, oh, slavery and this that happened. You know what? Come on now. Erasing what we're allowed to teach the kids. Oh, yeah. They're trying to erase history in general. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, slavery and this that happened. You know what? Come on now. We know what slavery was. There was no volunteer. Yeah. There was no compensation.

Yeah. So, we understand. We understand. I like to call it psychological warfare. That's all it is. It's mind games. If you control the mind of the masses, you can control everybody at once. Yeah.

So if you take away the lessons in the history, then you're able to control the narrative on what we're to believe. Yeah, moving forward. Because there'll be a generation and two generations that won't know what actually happened. What actually happened. Bingo.

Oh, McBoy. What it do, Uncle Ocho? Love the podcast question. What do you think the bigger collapse? Cowboys losing in the first round with home field advantage or the Eagles squandering a 10-1 record? What's the bigger collapse? You know what the Eagles have a 10 and one record? What's the bigger collapse?

Nor the Eagles have gotten to a Super Bowl. The Eagles have gotten to a Super Bowl they've shown they can do it. Obviously starting 10 and one and obviously the collapse of losing six of the last five, excuse me, five of the last six. Me being very optimistic thinking that things would change, but obviously it didn't. I think the bigger collapse is the Cowboys. Because they had so much at stake. Every year

is their year. Every year is their year. The owner is always at the forefront saying, I forgot what game it was, when they beat the Redskins. This is the best I've felt since we won the Super Bowl in 1995. You really? The commanders? Is that what we're doing?

You know, saying some of the stuff that he said. And hell, he had me believing that this was their year. And I thought that. And I think the bigger collapse would probably be the Cowboys and losing like that at home. Having an advantage. Playing at home, you suppose, had an advantage and just seeing them get steamroll like that so early from jump off the rip

and really not having any fight. The score at the end of the game made it seem like the game was closer than what it really was. Yeah. It wasn't. Mm-mm. It wasn't.

You know what Ochoa means? To be dead honest, this is the ending that I expected for both teams. And I told you this. Right. Because I had seen what the Cowboys had done. I had seen it the previous 25 years. I mean, I remember they had 10 pro bowlers. Look at all the all pros they got. Their left tackle is an all pro.

Their left guard is an all pro. Their wide receiver is a first team all pro. Dak Prescott is an all pro. Their right guard is an all pro. Their left on the corner, Blaine, is an all pro. We've seen this before. Yeah.

So why, you said, and Sandy's doing something over and over and hoping for a different result. We've seen the Cowboys go 12-5 and lose in the first round. We've seen them go 13-3 and lose their first playoff game with home field advantage. Right. So I'm just trying to figure out what was the difference. And when I look at the Eagles, and once the tide started to turn,

who thought they was going to be able to fix this in the playoff? It don't work like that. You've got to remember, the Eagles and the Cowboys had two quarterbacks that were in the MVP conversation. Yes. They were in the MVP conversation. Yes. They were in the MVP conversation. So that also leads you to believe, led me to believe, and also other fans, fans of both teams, that, you know what? We're going to be in contention come goddamn late December and January. nah I just watching the Eagles and looking at them play and seeing the things

like I said the untrained I can't see what you and I can see because they didn't play in the intricacies of when you look at and you analyze a play on offense or defense and what's going on I was always hesitant about them but just based on the Cowboys

and looking at their inability to run the football their inability to run the football, their inability to stop the run caused me some concern. And I've always felt the true is like, oh, the Cowboys are good offense, they're good defense. Well, can you get done what you need to get

done when you absolutely have to? When they needed to run the football, they still couldn't run it. When they needed to stop the run, they couldn couldn't run it. When they needed to stop the run, they couldn't. When they needed to get pressure on Jordan Love, they couldn't. And we have saw this in the regular season. When they played Brock Purdy, when they played the 49ers,

when they played the Cardinals, when they played the Dolphins, when they played the Bills, you can see things if you're looking. Now, if you just want to say, oh, he scored a touchdown. I won my fantasy. I won my parlay.

Well, okay. You're going to just be happy with that. But that's not how I watch the game, Mocho. I'm not looking. I don't care nothing about no parlay. I don't care nothing about no fantasy. I'm looking to see. That's unsound.

That's not a smart way to play football and you could see things that were happening especially with the eagles and the cowboys that was going to cause them some problems um so i'm not surprised but i would probably say 10 and 1 and losing 5 or 6 so basically you lost 6 or 7 right you. So basically, you lost 6-7. Right. You didn't lose 5, you lost 6-7 because you lost your first round of the playoff game also. Yeah. So you went from having a number one seed to number two seed

to number three seed to number four seed to being a wild card to being out in a matter of a month and a half. That's tough, man. So for me, I would say it would be as cataclysmic as everybody's saying the earth is falling,

the sky is falling with the Cowboys losing. For me, it would be the Eagles. The Eagles? They lost six or seven games. Right. So. Damn. This is the second collapse of the Eagles after a Super Bowl.

Do you think they have organizational issues? There's speculation that Harry Roseman purposely hires inexperienced coaches he can control. No, I don't think that's the case. I mean, guys, it's hard to repeat. See, the Patriots got you spoiled because Tom was in this situation every day of the year. And you think everybody does that. No. It's difficult, man.

It is. It's very difficult. First of all, it's difficult to win in the NFL. Period. Week to week. Now you're talking about championships, not to win playoff games consistently year in and year out that takes a toll and it's not easy so no i don't i don't honestly uh snake i don't think that's the issue i don't think howie purposely hires inexperienced coaches i think

he just you know you have to have a guy that you have a rapport with you have to have somebody that you believe that you can work with. You can build a championship caliber team with. And, you know, there has to be, you know, Mr. Lurie, Howie, the coach. And, you know, it has to work. It has to work. Any relationship. Sometimes the most beautiful woman, you already

know, Ocho, there ain't no way this is going to work because of her personality and my personality. Yes, she's gorgeous. She has a degree from Duke. this is going to work because of her personality and my personality. Yes, she's gorgeous. Right. She has a degree from Duke. Oh, my gosh. But you just know from talking and the way she's wired,

the way you're wired, that y'all not going to work long term. And that's okay. But you got to think, and Howie Roseman has to think, how does this thing work long term. And that's okay. But you've got to think and Howie Roseman have to think, how does this thing work long term? We can't get in here, you know, a higher coach give a five-year deal and six months in, we already fighting.

Right. So I don't think that decays. Faith. Hi, Faith. Hi, Shannon Ocho. I'd like to wish my Saras, an Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority, a happy 116th Founders Day. If either of you could join the Divine Nine,

which fraternity would you choose and why? Me, five, me. Me, five, me? Me-Fi-Me? Yeah. That's real? I'm all about Me-Fi-Me. I love me some me. Oh, man, you got me thinking you talking about a real fraternity, dude.

I was a member of T-Fi-T. Anybody that went to Savannah State, I know y'all in the chat. They better tell them about T-Fi. T-Fi. What color they wear? Orange and white Okay And we ran the yard

If I was a pledge, what would I be? I don't even know what I'd be What would I be? If I had to pledge What would I be if I did pledge? That's a good one Uh What would I be if I did pledge? That's a good one. Probably.

I would say you would probably be. A Sigma or a Kappa. Sigma. Sigma. Sigma. Blue and white. Blue and white. Right. Okay. And the Kappa is the ones that do the shoulder thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. I'm gonna be a Kappa because I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying. Oh, you're trying to win the cage, okay? You a stroller. Okay, okay, that's what's up. Yeah, I'ma work them shoulders, man. Yeah, I'm a word to the shoulders, man. I'm a word to the shoulders. No, I never wanted to be in a fraternity. It never piqued my interest.

Mary Porter sent me to get a degree and go to the NFL. That was it. That was the only thing that was on my mind, Ocho. I ain't going to lie. God's honest truth. Right. I got approached, had an opportunity, joined the Capos,

joined the Qs. That didn't interest me. And plus, bro, Ocho, I had a car. Ocho, I had a car. Wasn't nobody driving my car. I had nice clothes. I had Azad. I had Fox. I had Lee Jeans, Levi's, Darksiders. Ain't nobody wearing my... Come on, bro. And I wasn'tad. I had Fox. I had Lee Jeans, Levi's, Darksiders.

Ain't nobody wearing my... Come on, bro. And I wasn't behind nobody, no food. Come on, man. Y'all got me screwed up, bro. I'd have fought all them dudes up in there. You got to do it for the brothers. No, I don't. My brother sent me enough money for me. He had

$15,000, $2,000 in my pocket a month for me. Yeah. And plus,000, $2,000 in my pocket a month for me. And plus, Ocho, think about it. I'm the BMOC. Man, you know they're going to be trying... Man, please. I'm not built

for that, Ocho, to be honest with you. I'm not built for that. I don't do that humiliation. I don't do that degrading stuff. So you wouldn't be able to get through the hazing? No. No. You're not going to throw my food.

You're not going to throw my food on no floor and I eat it. You're not going to have me walking around the yard like a dog. Come on, bro. They don't do all that, nah. Have you walk around the yard like a dog? Yes. You sure? Or that was in a movie?

Bro, I went to HB... I don't know how they do it at PWIs. I'm talking about HBCUs. Back in the day when I went. You know, remember, I went to Oregon State for four months. I was on there for four months. I was a knucklehead,

so I didn't get the chance to experience what it's like to go to a PWI, you Oregon State for four months. I was on there for four months. I was a knucklehead, so I didn't get the chance to experience what it's like to go to a PWI for four years or an HBCU institution. So I don't know what it's like. So I missed that train. So I'm not knowledgeable. I'm not really knowledgeable on how the hazing works. But I remember there was a guy, he pledged, he was pledging Sigma.

Yeah. Man, they had dude, he walked the entire game around the track doing his little... While the game was going on? Yes!

That ain't bad. That ain't bad for him. He's just walking. Nah, nah. But bro, I don't want to get nobody in trouble but everybody understands that went to an hbcu that hazing is look bro they they closed down organizations on campuses for hazing so it's on it's on a different level i'm just saying it wasn't for me it i mean sometimes it's but it could be for someone else. I'm just saying for me and my personality, it's not for me.

Damn. That's crazy. It sounds fun, though, man. It sounds fun. The camaraderie, you know, the fun. And then actually getting through the hazing and when you finally cross over, that got to be a great fucking feeling. I saw the movie, was it Stomp the Yard? Yeah, was it Stomp the Yard? Yeah, was it Stomp the Yard? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, just that atmosphere, I wish I was able to experience that. That shit, it just looked fun. See, like, you know, like when you're in camp, like when you're the upper, you know, you're the veteran player, and you make the rookies come in and sing, or you make them buy you donuts.

See, that stuff, that cutting hair, we ain't cutting nobody's hair. You know, we might, we tie the guys up. We know how the Baltimore, we tie them up to the goalpost group. Veteran guys,

be Mike McQuarrie. We put them in the cold tub and stuff like that. But you know what I'm saying? We not going, you know, I wasn't big into like putting, you know,

popcorn in people's car and messing up their stuff and stuff like that. You know, just routine stuff. Okay. Hey, you know,

bring me breakfast in the morning. Right. You know, you got donuts or stuff like that. You know, just routine stuff. Okay, hey, Rook, bring me breakfast in the morning. Or, you know, you got donuts or stuff like that. You know, just, you know, saying, you know, I don't want to hear your album. First of all, I don't even like your school. So I don't want to hear nothing but no fight song. You know, sing, you know, sing Maxwell, sing Luther Bandraw, sing, you know,

Barry White, stuff like that. So that's the type of guy once, you know, obviously as a rookie, I had to sing and do stuff like that. But I was like, man, you know, Barry White, stuff like that. So that's the type of guy once, you know, obviously as a rookie I had to sing and do stuff like that. But I was like, man, you know, once I give me about

three or four years in the league and I take over this, that's what I want the guys to do. So that's the way I look at it though, Joe. That's live.

That's live. Hell, shit. I got them. That fraternity stuff is dope, man. You know, having brothers, having that union

Having that That connection Even once you're done With school And always just being friends What the hell You think your teammates for Okay you right

Yeah but you know Teammates They got families Everybody's separated When you don't play no more And you know it's hard You don't come together As one like you used to

Fraternities Men and boys Go back to homecoming You ain't seen your homeboy. Well, what's up, boy? How you been? Your big rough ass better not be at no homecoming. You 50 years old talking about something homecoming.

Well, ain't that what they do? Isn't that the point of homecoming? Homecoming? It's not for the kids. It's not for the one that's already there. It's homecoming. It's called homecoming for a reason. Your big rough ass don't need to be there.

Well, I mean, it's not me. I didn't go to HBCU. I'm not part of fraternity. They have homecomings at PWIs also. They just don't have them at HBCUs. It's just different at HBCUs. Right. Right. I've never been to one. Hell, I ain't even go to goddamn class.

Oh, Lord have mercy. See? That's why you ain't see the women. See, I went to class. That's where the women were. Huh? That's where the women class. Oh, Lord have mercy. See, that's why you ain't seen the women. See, I went to class. That's where the women were. Huh? That's where the women were in class. One thing about no women in, well, we're trying

to get to the league. Yeah, we're trying to get to the league too. But hey, I had to go there for four years, so I might as well go to class and see them.

Oh, see, you had the opportunity to go to school for four years. I didn't. You got to remember, I started at Langston University in Oklahoma. NAIA, you know Langston University, right? Yeah, I do You got to remember, I started at Langston University in Oklahoma. N-A-I-A.

You know Langston University, right? I do. I got thrown out for fighting at Langston. I'll never forget Ernest Holloway, Dr. Ernest Holloway.

Rest in peace. He threw me out for fighting. I went back to Miami with my grandma. So in Miami, I was a red shirt at Langston. So that's one year down. Went back to Miami.

My grandma was like, listen, baby, I've done all I can. This is my grandma, rest in peace. Her favorite line, I wash my hands. I've done all I can with you.

You got to go live with your mama because you can't come back here. So that's how I ended up at Santa Monica College in LA with Steve Smith in 1997. Yeah, so I was with Smitty in 1997.

So that's two years down. 1998, my black ass is ineligible. So I got, yeah so I was with Smitty in 1997 so that's two years down 1998 my black ass is ineligible so I got if you'd have went to class see I told you I wouldn't go into class so boom I lock in cause now my back is against the wall my opportunity

my window of opportunity is shrinking to get to the next level so I went there I took classes at Southwest I took classes at went there. I took classes at Southwest. I took classes at Santa Monica. And I took classes at West LA just to get the credit so I could play in 1999.

Boom. Now that's four years out the window. That's four years right there. I mean, three years. Three. Boom. Dennis Erickson happened to be at Oregon State.

He gave me that shot. He gave me that one for one. Man, I went to Oregon State, man, and cut a fool. I just needed to get on the big stage so they could see me. It didn't matter where I played. I just needed to get on any type of stage and show off. And I got to Oregon State that one year, man, and cut a fool. I was there four months and got drafted in April.

That's all you need, see? Look how bad I made it, though. I made it bad. You made it tough on yourself. You made it tough, a lot tougher than you needed to. I did. I did. Because I missed the experience of what it's like to be at a four-year institution.

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And, you know, we had parks with the Saras and the fraternities. They're in this thing. They're dancing because they're going to have a step show that Saturday night after the game, even that Friday before the game. I mean, it's just buzzing. You just feel it. And everybody's talking about, hey, hey, Sharp, you know, hey,

my mom done come in. Hey, we need to turn this thing out. I'm like, oh, okay. You know, I'm going to do what I do. Right. And it's just, there's just something about an HBCU homecoming week. And I've said this many, many times, and I've said it on a lot of different programs.

I think everybody should have the experience. Everybody, just one HBCU homecoming. It doesn't matter which one. You can go to Grambling. You can go to Howard, Savannah State, A&T, Central. It doesn't matter. But you got to experience it just once to understand. Man.

I haven't had the opportunity to experience it. I can't wait. I'm an ambassador for FAMU. And I was hoping. I was able to attend maybe two games this year, but because of my work schedule and other things I had going

on, I wanted to experience homecoming. I have yet. I have yet to experience homecoming. I have yet. I have yet to experience homecoming and see what it's like. Seeing the football game, seeing the atmosphere, the band, the Marks and Hunters. Miss Tiffany

Sykes, AD. If the atmosphere at a simple game is like that, then they play in Jackson State. Even with Prime gone, just still, the atmosphere was fucking crazy. So I could just imagine what it's like at homecoming.

Oh, man. I've yet to be able to experience it because I'm always working. Yeah, because the thing is, and then you get all the former players coming back. Man, I want to see that boy Sharp. Wait, man, that's Sharp. And so now, oh oh you know hey Sharp hey turn it out

so everybody geek because you know they're gone now and I was a freshman now I'm a sophomore but everybody's heard man they say that boy Sharp bad I told you it was going to be this and so

man the student body the love that they gave me right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, man. I wouldn't trade that. Look here. I wouldn't trade. I wouldn't trade that for all the tea in China. And you know, there's a lot of tea in China, but I wouldn't trade. I wouldn't trade that experience at SSU because if I had to do it over again, I go right back to SSU. Let Haynes Walton be and Norman Elmore and Steve Smith and Gay Hewitt

and Dr. Brock, all the ones. And man, that student body, they rock with Shannon Sharp. From 86 to 89, SSU rock with Shannon Sharp. That's live, man. Oh, man, it was unbelievable, Ocho. It was unbelievable.

Bam, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum. Hey, that's a tuba section. Oh, Ocho. I hear that thing. We start coming into that stadium, and they start playing that. Yeah. Man, man, we start coming into that stadium and they start playing that man, man I start getting oh boy, I said

y'all in trouble number two about to get y'all this work homecoming that got to be a great feeling man playing in high school and inner city schools and I went to Beach High.

My grandma forced me, made me leave Liberty City and go to school over on the beach because I got to keep an eye on you. She was a teacher, a counselor at a junior high,

daughterless middle school on the beach. So I had to play against Edison. I had to play against Miami Northwest and Miami Jackson, all the inner city schools

where all my homeboys at. And the only thing, the way I would get hype was when that goddamn band crank up. Man, it does. When that band crank up, man, it's a different feeling, man. Yeah, baby.

It's a different feeling, man. It is. That thing gets you hype. Man, I want you all just to see the crowd just rocking, going back and forth. Everybody's so see the crowd just rocking, going back and forth. Everybody's so excited. My freshman year, we won homecoming.

My sophomore year, we end up losing. Man, I remember telling Coach Dess and Coach Davis, I got two more years. I ain't never losing another homecoming. I mean, look, it puts a little damper, but everybody's so excited to see everybody that they like, oh no, I'm not losing.

I say, I tell you what, I don't care who you put on the schedule. We ain't losing another homecoming. Right. We're not losing another homecoming. Because I know my mom will come in next year, and then my last homecoming, my grandma came. Man, you think I'm about to lose my first game my grandma ever see me play? I'm about to lose that?

Man, y'all watch your mind. I play offense and defense. When I first got to Savannah State, Ocho, we used to be aired by the homecoming. I think we played by five homecoming because we push overs. What you mean?

Because you schedule cream puffs for homecoming. You want an easy victory. You want that easy dub. Right, right, right, right. I said, okay. But that stopped. Y'all, y'all, you changed.

Fort Valley, okay, put us on homecoming if you want to. Fort Valley, Albany. Your parents going to be mad. Right. You're going to be mad. You're going to be sad now. When you played, did the band listen? I love the band.

Honestly, I played saxophone and played piano only because of my mama. My grandma, my bad. Did the bands have fifth quarter? The bands stay after and battle each other? Man, they battle each other during the game. I know during the game. You not supposed to be quiet. Man, please.

Man, they playing. They going back and forth. Right. But they have something called the fifth quarter that they normally do now. Like when the game ends. After the game, yeah. Yeah, and after the game, they go back and forth. I love the fifth quarter, man.

I love the fifth quarter. Chad, I know in the chat there's a lot of people that went to HBCUs, but there's the fifth quarter that you got to check out on YouTube between Southern and Alcorn State in 2014. Unbelievable. I know I'm off topic right now.

Unbelievable. Alcorn State and Southern, I think it's 2014. That's one of the best fifth quarters that I ever heard. I don't know about your band, but Ocho, I'm telling you, if you played, if SSU was on your schedule, from 87 to 89,

I don't know what your band was playing for. They ain't have nothing to play for because we put bussing, folks. Y'all had a nice band? We had a nice team. Wait, way back then? What do you mean? Oh, you're talking about the team,

the football team. I was on it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all was nice. I did my homework. I did my homework on you. I did my homework. Y'all was nice.

I had to go and see what that two were hitting for. I heard two were nice. They better stop playing. They better stop playing. Who your quarterback was? My junior and senior year, we had a guy named Richard Basil. He, he, he made it to the league. Nah, he was, he was, he was small.

Uh, my sophomore year, we started with a guy named, uh, who started? We started with a guy named Bobby Kenner. And then we had a dude named Kenny Ham calling Ming Buck. He passed away. And then Johnny Jeffrey called him Bobby Brown. Hey, I put that head on like, hey, I would ran him off before

ran him off. I throw that head up. It's coming. Bobby Brown throw that thing out there for the boy. Oh, I would like that. Oh, I would like that though, for real. Hey, I'm trying to think, man. When I was at Langston University, who was my quarterback? Matter of fact, you know

who went to Langston University with me? Who? Remember Matthew Hatchett? Yeah. From the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah. Matthew Hatchett was that boy when I was at Langston. Matthew Hatchett was there. Yeah, and the quarterback, the quarterback at the time, I'll never forget,

his name was Waylon Jones. He's from somewhere in Houston. I'll never forget. His name was Waylon Jones. Okay. He's from somewhere in Houston. I'll never forget. Waylon Jones and K Money. K Money. I can't remember. I can't remember his real name.

They used to call him K Money, man. But God, that was dope, man. It was just some days. I'm so mad they got thrown out, man. Like, I was at Langston maybe three months. Three months and I was gone. Man, Dr. at Langston maybe three months. Three months, and I was gone. Man,

Dr. Ernest Holloway say, man, listen, son, we can't have that here, and we don't tolerate that type of shit. Shit me right back to Miami. My grandma was, uh-uh. I done done enough, boy. You got to go to your mama.

God damn. NBA Bando said, why is that everybody else can lose and it be peaceful, but y'all can't wait to see something as you know who loses. It's really distasteful because y'all run y'all mouth. I'm assuming you talking about the Cowboys because all

you do is yap and talk about this our year. We them boys. Okay, own up and talk about this. I hear we them boys. Okay. Own up to it. Are y'all still them boys? Are you crying? Now, this is what I want you to do. Now you can cry all you want to, but you're not going to jump in this group chat.

And I mentioned and start crying again. That's not going to happen. He didn't say he was talking about the Cowboys. I already know who you're talking about. You know who he's talking about too. Cause don't nobody else. Don't nobody else say we them boys Okay Y'all them boys

Y'all ain't make no noise Don't be mad They gonna be back next year Yeah I know Everybody else be back too Nah he wanna get on here and cry and talk about everybody else lose. Y'all don't say nothing.

We lose. It's distasteful. What's distasteful is y'all get y'all owners and y'all players be running y'all yap. Talking about this our year. We just as talented as the team of the 90s. Super Bowl team. Oh, we got a historic defense.

Oh, we this. This is the goodest team that I've ever been around. And I'm going to include those Super Bowl teams. Okay, now what? That's Jerry's fault. That's Jerry's fault, man. Now he's mad.

NBA bando, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. He should be. What's distasteful is that y'all come out here with that rhetoric every year. This side year, you win a couple of games. You beat the Jets. What y'all talking about?

Y'all beat the Giants. Beat the Patriots. Yeah, we this, we that. Now look at you. I've tried to get Cowboy players to come on the show. Don't nobody want to come on the show. They going to come? They going to come? Logan Black Roberts, hi, Uncle Ocho.

My son Kevin just got engaged on Saturday. They would love to have y'all shout them out and give them words of advice. They off to a great start spending time together watching Nightcap. Congrats, Kevin and Nene watching Nightcap Kevin and Neen congratulations Kevin and Neen hopefully you guys have a long

long fulfilling fruitful marriage yeah it's gonna be some rollercoaster some turbulence peaks and valleys you didn't get into this only for the good.

So, stay to test the time and wish you by Ocho and I wish you nothing but the best. And let me know when the wedding is so I can crash it. Let me know when the wedding is. What's good, Uncle Ocho? Did you ever have some female action waiting on you after the Super Bowl win?

Man, I had my mom. I had my mom and kids. The hell no. No. After the Super Bowl, man, it was all, look. Now, the first one, I mean, my sister was so happy. My mom was happy. I had the kid.

My kids were young. I was about to have a girlfriend at the time. I'm trying to think. My kids couldn't have been no more than about five? It wasn't nothing going down until I put them kids to bed. You know, I would have...

I got to shake the covers for one. You were shaking...... I gotta shake the covers for one. I gotta shake the covers for one. Damn. Gotta shake the covers for one. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I ain't shaking no covers when my mom

around. Well, you better than me, boy. No, but here's the thing, Ocho. Look. Okay. We get there. We got this Sunday. We, but here's the thing, Ojo. Look, okay, we get there. We got this Sunday. We're going to play the following Sunday, so we arrive on Sunday. The families come that Thursday. All right.

Now, they already know. Oh, we want to go see daddy. We're going to go see daddy. No, you're not. Your daddy will be over here. I come see him. I spend about an hour, hour and a half. They're not going to see me until after the game.

My mom, my girlfriend, my sister, they got the kids. Okay, we go to the party, having a good time. My mom take the kids. My sister take the kids. Hey, you do this? They were not there.

They were not there, Ojo. They were not there. Ojo, they were not there. But you know, that time I had, you know, had to be, you know, you had to got that win. You know, had to. You know, we had to got that win. So I was feeling pretty good.

Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I figured I'd get me another win, too. So I was 2-0 that night. Yeah. Yeah. I like where you're at, man. I like where you're at. Yeah, man.

I'm with you. Mm-hmm. I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. But that about it. That about it, though. That about it. Okay.

Crabbed up, too. Man, come on, man. Why you laughing, man? I know about them. I know about them cramps, man. After a game? Thank you.

Them hamstrings, your back. And the hamstring? Hey, don't be... I mean, I'm trying to keep it clean. I'm trying to keep it clean. You know,

from the... All right. I only know how to say it. All I'm saying, I know you're talking about... I'm trying to keep it clean. I'm trying to keep it clean. You know, from the... All right, I only know how to say it. All I'm saying, hey, I'm locked up. I don't know how to come up out of here. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, baby. Yeah. That hamstring, that.

That thing lock up. And it don't be no normal cramp. You got to stop. You got to straighten your leg out. Mm-hmm. Matter of fact, that's a charley horse everything you get as a matter of fact everything lock up everything got a cramp everything still and come about it I come right up Oh, oh, oh. I'm trying to hide myself. Oh, oh, oh. You okay?

No, no, I'm not okay. Hey, I remember them days. I am not okay. I remember them days. That's throwback. That's throwback. We all go through the same shit. See?

Okay, I just thought it was me as long as it's not got me. Nah. See? I ain't gonna take this out about me? Nah. See, let me check this out. NBA Bando, he responded. He said, isn't that what fan is, Shay Shay? Ain't you supposed to say you're going to win every year no matter how much they let you down?

I'm a Bills fan. Nah, you ain't no Bills fan. No, you won. Ain't no way you would have said that if you were a Bills fan. And they just won. Exactly. It wouldn't make have said that if you were a Bills fan. And they just won. Exactly. So it wouldn't make no sense. Thank you.

He think he slick. Sheldon Pope said, let Ocho know. Rip that paper off that, what you got? Off that water. Oh, you drinking water on camera? Oh. Oh, they ain't paying us? They ain't paying no joke.

Hold on, let me. Damn. I ain't know these come off. Tara says, supportive nightcap from New Zealand. Thank you, Tara. Not many people know you guys here, but I'm telling them about Unc and Tocho. Yeah.

Tocho. Oh, Tocho Cinco. I really, really appreciate that. Hey, how many people in this chat? We got 43,000. I know good and well all of y'all. Do me a favor. Hit that subscribe button right now.

All 43,000 that's in this chat, hit that subscribe button right now. Do that for Ocho and I. I don't ask for much. I don't ask for much. Just a click. Just hit that subscribe button.

And I don't ask so much just a click just hit that subscribe thing and if you have a finger and if you haven't watched uh uh uh cat williams episode of me and uh cat williams go on and get that can't put it down i ain't gonna i can't put it down let's see. How many, how many, what you at now? How many on there? 49 million. Ooh, shoot. We hit 50 by tomorrow.

Well, you did. You did a number with that one. You did. You did a number with that one. Basically, Ocho, I mean, when, I just think the thing is for me, that one. He did. He did a number with that one. Basically, Ocho, I mean, I just think the thing is for me,

like, when you're having a conversation or you say you want to interview somebody, yeah, it's my show, but people don't want to hear from me.

They want to hear from the guest. Yeah. I invited you on to tell your story. Especially that kind of guest. Well, you ain't even got to guide him.

You just let him go. Tell it. Tell your story, especially that kind of that kind of guess where you got to guide him. You just you just let him go. Tell it. Tell your story. Yeah, because what I mean, everybody else has come on and, you know, I've had other comedians on. I've had a lot of other people on. And so he was unbelievable. So I really appreciate you guys. We're going to hit 50 million tomorrow in under two weeks. That's unbelievable. And if we drop an episode that I think we're going to drop on Wednesday, got another Humper. Yeah.

We got another banger. You going to hit by 50 million too? I don't think it's going to hit that. This is an anomaly, Ocho. Let's just say I was Michael Jackson. Right. Rest his soul. That's thriller.

Cat Williams is thriller. I might have an off the wall. I might have a bad. Right. But it's not going to do the commercial acclaim of what this did. And that's okay. Give me a hint on who it is. Everybody's going to know who it is.

They're going to be like, how he get him? What? Well, who? Well, throw something out there. Throw me a bone now. Oh, and, and, got another one coming up

the following week. Got another banger. Damn. Got another banger. Well, you on fire. Oh. Oh, I got some stuff lined up. I don't...

They go like, how he get... Cause. But let me get a little hint. Can I get a little hint on somebody? One of them? No? No.

Just throw something out there. Throw something out there for me. Because they ain't going to do numbers anyway, regardless. I talk to you. I see you. I text you. All right. But I got to pay my bill first.

I ain't paid my bill yet. So my phone off right now. It's off. You ain't got no service. Nah, nah, nah. Because I'm using the Wi-Fi for the computer and I don't want to hold the bandwidth. Yeah.

But I got, you know, I got a couple more coming too. I got a couple more. Okay. Boy, you working, working too, man. Oh, yeah. You get to take a break at any point, no? I know Ash and Jordan know, but I'm taking a break soon. We're going to take a break. I said, yeah? Uh, I know Ash and Jordan hope that I'm taking

a break soon. Uh, we're going to take a break. I said y'all can get six weeks off between July and August. Six weeks? Six weeks.

Okay. Wait, they taking a break, but you not going to take no break? I'm going to take a break too. Okay. Oh,

July, August. Okay. Okay. Okay. How many weeks you want? That's in six months. She? That's in six months. She said, that's in six months.

I'm like, dang, you can count really fast, Ash. Dang, that's a long time away. Yeah. Woo! Everybody, y'all got your hard hat on. We got to grind, don't y'all? We got to grind. We got to grind this thing from the floor up.

Right, right, right, right. I'm with you. I'm with you you're right yeah so yeah oh yeah I'll be working the phone lines yeah I mean hey the way I look at it if I'm only gonna get like three four hours of sleep a night let me put the time that I'm awake

let me put it to good use okay put it to good use reach out to people that's like okay I got some people lined up trust me Put it to good use. Reach out to people that's like, okay. I got some people. I got some people lined up. Trust me. That's going to be live.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bear underscore Tran. Who got a better closet? Uncle Ocho. I think it's Uncle with all those suits. Oh, yeah. Ocho can't see me with clothes. Who? Ocho, you can't see me with clothes. Who?

Ocho, you can't see me with no clothes. You got no rag. Me? Yeah, you. You got no rag. Hey, yo, man. You don't want to see me. You got no rag like me.

Ocho, you got no rag like me. But you don't want to see me. You don't want to see me in them suits, man. Don't do that. You got some nice stuff. I just don't have very many places to go where I have to put a suit on. But when it's time to step,

I don't play, huh? I'm just telling you, I don't play. I don't play. I'm different. I'm different in the suit now. I'm different. Sometimes you ain't even going to know it's me.

I'm different in the suit. I ain't going to know it's you. Yeah, I'm tired. Shit. Boy, you can jump. All right. Boy, I ain't up. Boy, I ain't know you could. Boy, I be cleaning in the Board of Health, sure. Boy, sure. All right. Boy, I ain't up.

Boy, I ain't know you. Boy, I be cleaning in the Board of Health, boy, in a suit. Well,

you already know I jump, so you know I do what I do. Yeah, you be doing your thing, man. You be doing your thing. I ain't taking nothing away from you.

But listen, if they was, listen, if they was grading me, I'm getting an A every time. You getting an A? I'm cleaner than the Board of Health every time I put on a suit. 98% of the time, I'm getting an A every time. You getting an A? I'm cleaner than the board of health

every time I put on a suit. 98% of the time, I look like a bum. But when it's time to go somewhere and I got to wear a suit, psh, well, I ain't nothing to play with. Kobe 20 asked,

Uncle Nocho coming from the South, how did y'all handle playing Nicole in Denver and Cincinnati? Every time, man, you know what? I love the goddamn cold, boy. No, I went upstairs and got that check on that Monday

it kept me warm for about a whole month it was easy Ocho I got that check uh you get once you start

to practice the hardest part was practicing in it because you don't have the same adrenaline you ain't got no no heated benches no things of that nature like you have in the game.

So once you can master practicing in it, the game became a lot easier. Now, it ain't no preparing yourself to play what Kansas City played in. No. That's different. Yeah. Ain't no getting, ain't no preparing yourself to play what Kansas City played in. And that, no. That's different. Yeah. I mean, we had some, it was like 10 for like three or four days. Like, whew. Lord, have mercy.

Because you want to be as warm as you possibly can, but you want to be able to run and catch the football. So I couldn't be, you know, I couldn't be out there like a snowman, like the Michelin man can't move. You warm, but you can't get open. You can't move. So there was a fine line between having enough on but not too much. I enjoyed the

cold. Obviously, being from Miami, rarely does it ever get cold. And if it does get cold we talk about 70 you know with 70 in miami you out there with a goddamn jacket and ugly boots on right but i i had appreciation when i got to cincinnati i had appreciation for the cold and enjoying the seasons i i enjoyed the build-up to the cold and by the time it actually got cold you know late november early december mentally i was already prepared right i was already prepared and i couldn't i didn't i couldn't wear no sleeves at times i did more so a fashion

statement but when it got cold gripping the ball the ball would always slip yeah you can't sleep yeah you have sleep you can't feel the ball so i i was good long as i had my jacket and i had the heated bench and we had the heat on right I was good to go it didn't matter how cold it got yeah

yeah that's how I was I didn't I couldn't have anything I mean I didn't I didn't wear thermals up under my

you know some people have like those leg warm I couldn't wear those I needed to be light right I needed to be light light as possible yeah

light light uh Damien Flowers is it a stretch those. I need to be light. I need to be light. Light as possible, yeah. Light. Light. Damien Flowers, is it a stretch for Green Bay to make it to the Super Bowl? Ocho was talking crazy last night. He needed one of them diamonds. I mean, look.

Obviously, they're going to be underdogs going to San Francisco. The great equalizer turnovers. Can they coach Brock Purdy to do what Dak Prescott did? Throw him one early, give him a pick six a little later. Can they force him into one of those days? That's how you go on the road and beat a team that the experts say you shouldn't win. You shouldn't beat.

You got to go. You got to do. Obviously, you got to play well. You can't turn it over, but you got to coax a couple of turnovers out of Bill. And if you can do that, you have a great chance. You don't like the chances, huh? You don't seem convinced. You got to damn near play perfect football, man.

You got to damn near play perfect football. They did on Sunday. Yeah. They played a perfect game. Remember who they playing, though? Yeah. play the perfect game remember who they playing though yeah gonna be a different ball game a little added pressure stakes a little bit higher mm-hmm mistakes you got to minimize all mistakes you do you do Mistakes. You got to minimize all mistakes. You do.

You do. So you don't like Green Bay Chance and stuff? I do. I do. With the way Love is playing. With the way Reed and Melton, Dobbs, Christian Watson, with the way them boys playing.

Just carefree but obviously young not be able to experience being in the playoffs playoff atmosphere if they're able to minimize those mistakes them boys might shock

them boys might shock the world them boys might shock the world and I wouldn't be surprised Marcus B asks Hey Uncle Nocho it's my homeboy Them boys might shock the world. I wouldn't be surprised. Marcus B. Ask, hey Uncle Nocho, it's my homeboy J Money birthday. Can you give him a shout out?

He's a huge fan as well. Much love to y'all. J Money, happy birthday bro. J Money, send me $20. Yeah. With a name like that, I know you got it. And hit that subscribe button. Send your boy $20. Everybody that we shout out got it. And hit that subscribe button.

Everybody that we shout out, you got to hit the subscribe button. Happy birthday, J Money. Tay Collins, hey Uncle Ocho, January 16th is my birthday. Can I have a birthday shout out if you don't mind? I've been here since day one. Tay, happy birthday, bro.

Enjoy this. Oh, what is the... Tomorrow. Tomorrow's the 16th, right? Oh, bro. Hey, happy early... Oh, it might be already your birthday considering if you're on the East Coast. But happy birthday.

Enjoy your special day and many, many more to come, bro. Enjoy it. Happy birthday. Make sure you go get you go get you some pop one of them blue diamond man yeah man yeah King Fool asked who was y'all favorite

NFL team before y'all got drafted Steelers Dolphins still still a Dolphins still to this day Mark Dupin Mark Clayton Dan Marino and you know that's all I do that's all I knew I took my, I think it's my third grade picture.

My mama, uh, brought me and my brother, Franco Harris jerseys. So we took our picture. I took my third, I think I was in the third grade. My brother was in the sixth and those Steelers jerseys.

And we were, we, I've been, so I've been a Steelers, I've been a Steelers fan ever since. And so, uh, you know,

before when the Steelers used to have the jerseys that came to the elbow see people don't really like if you go back and look at the old Steelers the jersey came down yeah yeah the baggy ones hot hot yep Steelers with my team Michael Seeley Uncle Ocho thoughts on D-Wade getting a statue from the heat. Is there a bigger honor for an athlete? Also, Ocho, is Crespo on the back of your jersey? No. Yeah, somebody know they shit. You see? Legend. legend no there's no bigger honor um to have a statue that's foundational that's not going anywhere um that means not only were you good

on the court you were exemplary off of it and so so for you to have a statue, that organization thanks the world, the sun, the moon, and the stars of that individual. D-Wade is very deserving. So, no, no. I mean, obviously, you know, because if you get a statue,

obviously you're going to get your number retired. Right. But, I mean, if you go to Miami, who would want to wear number three? That's D. Wade. Yeah. You don't want to follow up behind that. Nah. You don't want to follow up behind that. Nah. Not at all. Yeah, shit, I want me a statue, too. To do what? A statue to do what?

Put it out there in front of the Bengals Stadium. I pay for it myself. Uh, I probably, if Joe Burrow wins a Super Bowl,

Joe Burrow will probably be the first one to get it. Yeah. Oh, he definitely, shit. I build a statue

for Joe. He get a goddamn Super Bowl. Yeah. Shit, he was almost there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He was almost there. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we'll be back.

Natalia, can you wish myself and my twin, Nadia, a happy birthday today? Love the show. Natalia, Nadia, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Enjoy. Wave check, wave check. what did you guys do did you do anything fun for your birthday today is it today like in like tomorrow like like today i mean like tuesday or was it like monday because i'm we're on the west coast so it's right a little

after 10 here you're on the east coast obviously it's already one in the morning so i'll just check it hopefully you guys had a very very enjoyable birthday probably when i had a couple After 10 here, you're on the East Coast. Obviously, it's already 1 in the morning. So I was just checking. Hopefully, you guys had a very, very enjoyable birthday. Probably when I had a couple of, you know, mimosas with you and your girlfriend. Man, Ocho, what's going on with your hair? I was trying. I was cutting my hair. Clearly, you weren't successful.

No, I started and I stopped because the show was finna start man yeah I cut I cut a little bit over here and actually I did remember I did that last time

yeah I cut I cut a little bit but all the fat was still there and it looked like last time too don't worry about it

it's coming man I got a I got a full hairline I know that where oh I got a full hairline I just I was. Where? Oh, I got a full hairline. I just, I was cutting my hair. I don't know about all that.

Yeah, yeah. Wave check. Miss M.T. said, Uncle Nocho, big fan, watching all the way from Ethiopia. Chiefs fan for life. So I couldn't stand Uncle in the 90s. Love you both.

And thanks for Morning Entertainment. As I watch you guys getting ready for work. M.T., bro, I appreciate that, man. All the ways. Love you both and thanks for morning entertainment as I watch you guys getting ready for work. MT, bro, I appreciate that, man. All the way back. We got fans all the way in Ethiopia. We got one. What's the name? Hold on. Yes, you got one from New Zealand. Let me go. Tara.

Tara's in New Zealand. We're in Ethiopia. Where else we got fans at? Oh, Hong Kong we got Hong Kong Ojo we got somebody in Hong Kong yep well that's live yeah that's what I'm saying

we're not global we're international well we everywhere boy we global We're not global, we're international. Well, we everywhere, boy. We global. Man, what? Won't you shave it? Huh? Won't you shave it?

I am shaving it. No, I'm talking about with a razor. Oh, nah. I bump up bad, boy. Oh, I'm talking about with a razor. Oh, nah. I bump up bad, boy. Oh, you can't shave with a razor on your face? No, boy. I bump up bad, boy. I did it one time. I think it was in high school.

Man, I bump up real bad. I mean, it'd be like, oh, I look like... Like a Nestle Crunch. Huh? Like a Nestle Crunch. Yeah, man. Yeah, and it take forever to go away. I shave with a razor.

You do? I can put that blue steel on my face, man. Yeah, and it take forever to go away. I ain't doing it. I'll shave with a razor. You do? I can put that blue steel on my face, yeah. Yeah, I can't do that. You know what? I'm going to leave it like that. Forget it. I'll finish it when we finish. You should go on the air like that tomorrow.

Nah. Nah, I still look good, though. It look good. Yeah, it ain't, you know, matter of fact, I'm going to put a little part right in the middle. Ooh. That's a nice little style right there, like a half and half should try to grow you should try to grow some hair grow some way can you get waves yeah i can grow a full set of hair you can see you can see my hairline my hairline everything's still intact i just don't like the maintenance

i hate the wave cap i hate putting grease i hate i that, man. I just want to be able to get up, go. It take me five minutes to cut my hair. Five minutes. I mean, boom. How often you got to cut it? Every, probably, every two weeks.

Every two weeks. It grows slow. That's a good thing. Yeah, that's how I know you ain't got no hairline. Why? Because your hair grows slow. My hairline is right here, man.

Well, I just messed up. Man, you put your eye, that was your eye brides. There ain slow. My hairline is right here, man. Well, I just messed up. Man, you put your eyebrows. That was your eyebrows. There ain't no damn hairline. Hold on. Let me show you, man. Just because you put that edge on it, that don't mean it's a line.

You can't establish no line. There ain't nothing but skin. You're going to nick yourself. That's because I was already cutting it. I look a mess, man. But he got a line man please got a good

hairline though I can't see hey chat do y'all think Ocho got a hairline chime in chat wait hold on I will grow my hair just to prove a point. Ain't no thing. Hey, it's going to start at the 50-yard line.

No, no, no. No, don't do that. My hairline is right here. My hairline is right here. Just because you put it right there, that don't mean that's your hairline. No, I'm talking about I started cutting my hair before we started the show. That's why there was a piece missing right here. I just want to know, Chad, do y'all think Ocho got a hairline?

No, hell no. There are plenty pictures of me with a hairline, though. No, ain't no plenty pictures nowhere with you

with no hairline. You just find it. Ocho. No. You can see how much, you can see how, your skin right here, you can see how smooth it is. Ain uh your skin right here you can see how smooth it is ain't no hair grow there ain't hair grow there in years my hey whoa my everything on me smooth

from everything wave check what wave oh i said like this oh i thought you were talking about wave shake. Oh, I thought you were talking about that. We good? Wait a second. We got the show tomorrow, right? Yeah, put the poll up. We're going to put a poll up. The folks don't have a hairline. But why would I lie about my hairline? I don't care what you did because you lie.

I'm trying to figure out why you lie about anything. I don't care what you did because you lie. I'm trying to figure out why you lie about anything. I don't lie. I guarantee you, Ocho, you ain't got no hair left. I don't see it. I don't see it.

You'll see it because I'm going to grow my hair out. I'm going to grow my hair out on purpose. Matter of fact, hey, for Super Bowl, for the last show, I'm going to go get the piece. You know, the little piece? Yeah.

That they make with the waves already in it. Oh, you're talking about the lace. You to go get the piece. You know the little piece? Yeah. That they make with the waves already in it. Oh, you're talking about the lace. Yeah, I'm going to get a lace with the waves. Yeah, that's what I'm going to wear for Super Bowl. I'm going to be killing them too. I'm going to be sharp too. I'm going to be sharp. Sharper than the number two pencil. And I'm going to come in with

a piece, with a little fade, with a little part. Who I'm going to come in with a piece, with a little fade, with a little part. Who up for the killer? I don't think that's possible, Ocho. Yeah. I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, Ocho, but I don't think you got no. I don't think.

I can, as you can see. How we look at that? 63% say, Ocho, you ain't got no hairline, bro. See? They don't know me. Yeah, we do know you. Yeah, I know you. They don't know me.

I got a hairline. My hairline was clear as day before I even sat down. You right. It's clear. It is clear. We can see right through it. It's clear. It's clear, all right.

I don't know, Ocho. know I'm saying but a bald head cause you got a little pea head so it works for you yeah I mean listen I had you know my helmet my NFL helmet was the same helmet I wore back in high school the size I wore medium

yeah what you wore like a seven and a quarter. Yeah. I mean, what you wore, like a seven and a quarter? No, my hat, I wear a six, seven, eight.

Yeah, see, little peanut head. Small, man, little head, like perfect. It's perfect for my body,

though. Perfect for my body. No, it's perfect for that bald head. Yeah, so, when you got a little head, when you got a little head that small,

most people got heads that small, they go bald. Nah, man, I'm not bald. If you had hair, you look like a little head that small, most people got heads that small, they go bald. Nah, man, nah. Cause you look like a monster cheat. If you had hair, you look like a little monster cheat.

Nah, nah, nah. I can grow an afro. Like, I can grow an afro. I had dreads in high school. I had dreads in a mouth full of golds.

Nah. Nah, I'm for real. I had dreads in a mouth full of golds in high school. Yeah, I'm from, I'm from, I'm from, I'm out real I had dreads in the mouth of the goals in high school yeah I'm from I'm from I'm out the city now

I don't know Ocho I'm trying to look turn turn turn turn sign profile do a profile

that man ain't gotta lick a line man that joker ain't gotta lick a line what line you couldn't I couldn't even draw a line. Man, that joker ain't got to lick a line. What line? I couldn't even draw a line. Well, I cut my hair. How you going to draw a line if ain't

nothing? You can tell, even if somebody got a bald head, you could tell if they had a hairline in the front. You ain't got no line, Ocho. No, you can't. That would be like, no, you can't. I ain't been in the sun. I've been in the cold. What the hell that got to do with anything? Because everything is blending in.

Everything is blending in from the face to the... From the face to the scalp. It's thin. Nah. I'm handsome. I look good. I know that thing going to about 75% now. Where is it at now?

After they look that Ocho from the... 64% said, Ocho, you ain't got no hairline. They don't know. I look better than that 64%. Just like this. I wear my hair like this all week. Oh, you gonna go on

the inside of the NFL like that? I will. I will. I will. With half a haircut. I still look good. Why don't you just go to the bar and let them cut it? No.

Who finna pay for that? Well, you know how much a haircut costs a day? They ain't got no hair. That shit cost me $10. So you know... Nah, shit. Boy, a haircut costs like $40, $50.

You know I ain't paying for that? Well, you know I ain't paying for that. I ain't even got a pre-check. You think I'm finna pay for a haircut costs like $40, $50. You know I ain't paying for that? Well, you know I ain't paying for that. I ain't even got a pre-check. You think I'm going to pay for a haircut? Not me. Not me. Lady, lady, he be today. Hey, Ocho, why you ain't got a pre-check?

For what? We all getting on the plane at the same time. What's the point of me rushing through the gate? Why am I getting pre-checked? Are we all getting on the plane at the same time? So what's the point of me getting in there earlier? Waste of goddamn money.

Think I'm paying $50 for a haircut? No, sir. Not me. Man, ain't nobody going to charge you $50 for that. Man, haircut costs $50. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know when the last time you've been to the barber. Bro, I get my hair cut twice a week. If you're giving me a bald head, they have all these extra extracurricular activities that they go through. Yeah, the hot towel. Yeah, the hot towel and all that.

Man, thank you. I got my little T-line or whatever this is called. Yeah. For free. Five minutes. Well, eight minutes. That's all I need. I got my little skin-tight alcohol I get from the beauty called. Yeah. Cut it myself for free. Five minutes. Well, eight minutes. That's all I need. I got my little skin-tight alcohol I get from the beauty supply. Yeah.

Have that thing on, on the back. Why don't you let Raelle do it then? Nah. Nah. Nah. She ain't got a steady hand like that. She ain't got a steady hand.

How she gonna mess up a bald head? It ain't about her messing up the bald head. It's about the amount of pressure that she adds. I don't want her to mess up my clippers. The blade. I don't want her to mess up the blade. And I don't want you cutting me. Yeah, I don't want you cutting me.

Because then I got to deal with alcohol. Somebody in the chat said a $100 bald head definitely exists. It do? Yeah, I mean, if they shave you with a straight razor, that must be putting a straight razor on your head. Man, they got, it's a process.

Won't you get it waxed, don't you? Won't you get it waxed? Nah, I don't do no waxing, man. I don't do no wax. I do everything with this. I just want to see it. Do everything with this.

Nah, it's going to take you longer than eight minutes to do that right there, Ocho. No, it ain't. It'll take you about 15, 20 minutes to do that. Nah. Yeah. Well, you know You know what happens Once you get a haircut now You know that feeling

When you get a haircut huh What happened Well you feel like You're on top of the world Well if you got a lady If you got an old lady And you go And you go to the barbershop

And get a haircut I guarantee you She tell you to get your ass home Cause you know you wanna be Out in the streets When you get a haircut Cause it make you, she'll tell you to get your ass home. Because you know you want to be out in the streets when you get a haircut. It make you feel different. You'd be different,

but you'd be looking good. That what you think? That what happened? Well, that's what I know. Because right now, I only got half a haircut and I look good. Right now,

I'm about a seven and a half right now. Imagine when I finish the rest. I'm a 10. Yeah. I'll tell you no lie. I don't know about that, don't you? I'm just telling you. But I'm glad 65% say you ain't got no hairline.

They lying. They lying to themselves. Ain't nobody lying. Ain't nobody lying. Ain't nobody lying. That's why I said, after today, after I work tomorrow, I'm going to grow my hair all the way out, and I'm going to line it up so y'all can see I have a hairline.

Well, line it up so y'all can see i have a headline well line it up the lakers win tonight ash told y'all lakers won yep beat uh oh beat the thunder somebody in the chat said my hairline right now it is start with Stephen A. Smith's own start. See? Hey, that's funny. See? Go James, A.D.

Man, A.D. been balling, bro. They want to know. Yeah, they want. LeBron had 25, 76 AD was 27 and 15 that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about

the Thunder oh that don't count Thunder like that oh Shea Gildress oh dang he nice Shea like that uh Juan Marshall said Yeah. Oh, he nice. Shea, hey, Shea like that. Juan Marshall said,

Marshall said, let's make an Ocho hairline challenge. Can't shave his head until nightcap get less than a thousand followers in a day. I can't shave my head, what? Come into the camera. Come in the camera a little closer. Let me see. Nah, Ocho, you ain't got no hairline.

You got no hairline. No, you don't. My hairline right there. Nice and intact. Nice and intact. I got a good hairline. Nah, no, you don't. Hey, the chat jealous of my hairline.

They mad I'm 56 and I got a hairline. Keith Oliver asked, Shannon, you're a top tier jokester. Did you give Ash some of that smoke? Yep. Yep. Well, she gets it the most out of her and Jordan.

Ash. It started when we were both at Fox she wasn't deciding on what I work with him okay you gonna be sorry uh Leon Roma

keeps donating money to ask if Ash is single request them or leave her alone. But damn. Damn, Ash, you seem to be a hot commodity lately. She's good. She say she's good. She's a good

person sometimes. But don't let her fool you. Don't let her fool you. She be killing Jordan. She be killing Jordan. She be killing Jordan. Every chance she get, she be on Jordan. I'm like, Jordan, okay, now. You got to fight back

at some point, Jordan. Damn. She just... Oh, man. If you didn't know, you're like, well, damn. Damn. She just... Oh, man. If you didn't know, you're like, well, damn, Joy, you just gave up, huh? But, uh... Okay. Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're

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Wednesday. And Wednesday, Thursday. Okay. Wednesday with Gil, Thursday with Ocho. Thank you for joining us us I'm your favorite sports uncle Shannon Sharp he's your favorite number 85

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