Nightcap - Nightcap - Chargers hire Jim Harbaugh, Ray Lewis deserves respect, Boutte the Dumb Dumb

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Atlanta Falcons hiring Raheem Morris and passing on Bill Belichick,  the Los Angeles Chargers hiring Jum Harbaugh from the University of Michi...gan, Cam Newton's comments saying Lamar Jackson means more to the city of Baltimore than Ray Lewis did, Kayshon Boutte's reckless gambling at LSU and much more!   02:45 - Introduction 05:45 - Falcons hire Raheem Morris 22:30 - Chargers hire Jim Harbaugh 34:30 - Why Ray Lewis is the greatest Raven 48:30 - Kayshon Boutte gambles his career 01:06:30 - Unc on driving reckless 01:43:00 - Who would win a roasting battle 02:00:00 - Much more Nightcap!    #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:52 raheem morris as the next head coach uh mar spent uh three his uh spent last three years and three years ago in atlanta and he was the interim coach after dan Quinn was fired after 0-5 season. He went 4-7 as the interim, and Atlanta hired Arthur Smith to replace him. Falcons fired Arthur Smith after three 7-10 seasons. Do you like the move? Because everybody thought that Coach Belichick was the frontrunner after he had interviewed twice with Falcons owner Arthur Blank. Raheem Morris is going to be the next head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Right. I like the move. I like the move. What you want to do is when it comes to hiring head coaches, you want to hire coaches that resonate with their players. I think Bill Belichick, obviously his resume, it extends far beyond anything I could explain that we've all seen. We know what he does. We know what he's brought to the table, obviously during his tenure, his dynasty tenure with the New England Patriots. We've somewhat seen how that ended, obviously not having an adequate or competent quarterback to compete week in and week out. We've seen how that is going. The hire of Raheem Morris, this is why it's a good thing. I never played for him. But the players that have played that are still active in the NFL today, when they saw
Starting point is 00:05:17 this hiring, you could notice all their tweets, notice all the things that they've said. Jalen Ramsey being one of them arguably one of the greatest cornerbacks to ever play giving the high five and the signal that that defense jesse bates and those boys are getting a good one that lets you know whether the hire was good or not not how the people on the outside think not how the coaches uh around the nfl thing but the players that have to deal with the coaches on a day-to-day a day-to-day basis on the inside on the inside of that building how do they feel about them i think about it this higher almost equivalent to that of antonio pierce with oakland and understanding how important he is and being able to not just be a leader of men, but a coach that the players respect
Starting point is 00:06:06 and will run through a fucking wall for. And I think that's what Raheem Morris is for Atlanta Falcons. So I like the hire. I like the hire also. You're talking about somebody that's very familiar with the NFC South. He coached in Tampa.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Remember, he had a tenure in Tampa for a period of time, even though that was a while ago as the DC for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And I think he was the interim head coach when John Gruden got let go. If I'm not mistaken, I don't. But I know he spent some time in Tampa. I know him a little bit, spoke to him a couple of times. I really like him. I think he's paid his dues. I think he's put the requisite amount of time in
Starting point is 00:06:45 and given an opportunity to be a head coach again in this league. I think the other times were interim. So I really like Raheem. Wasn't he in Tampa? Didn't he take over for John Gruden and have a couple years in Tampa? If I'm not mistaken, I think that's the case. But he's definitely put the time in, won the Super Bowl as the D.C. at the Rams, coached Aaron Donald, coached Jalen Ramsey, coached B-Wags.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah. Yeah, he was the head coach in Tampa from 09 to 11. Very familiar with this division. Like I said, coached in Tampa. Now he was the D.C. He was interim coach. And when Dan Quinn got fired. So I like
Starting point is 00:07:27 this move from Arthur Blank. I like this guy. I like Raheem getting another opportunity to be a head coach, like I said. And plus, ATL, y'all know how they get down, you know? They talk about D.C. We black everything.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Black man. You know, I'm saying? That's how we put it down. Go ahead. I think we have one issue that needs to be resolved. You know this is a quarterback league. In order to compete, even at NFC South, you're going to
Starting point is 00:08:00 need a quarterback to compete with the likes of Drew Brees. Not Drew Brees. Drew Brees is not there. Derek Carr. I'm likes of Drew Brees. Not Drew Brees. Obviously, Bryce. Drew Brees is not there. Derek Carr. I'm talking about Drew Brees. Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Well, it didn't take much to beat him. Baker Mayfield just had a really good year. Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, Brother Bryce. Brother Bryce. And you got to get your quarterback situation situated. I think that should be the first order of business. But for Mr. Morris is to find out what you're going to do in that area.
Starting point is 00:08:29 If I'm not mistaken, I'm thinking, I'm thinking if me, I'm not saying I'm Cleo, but what makes the most sense to me is going to get brother Justin Fields, knowing that the bears are probably going to pick Caleb Williams. I'm just saying you're not, you're not going to pass on something like that. You're not going to pass, you like that pick. Oh, now you like that pick to Atlanta. Yeah. I'm just saying, you're not going to pass on something like that.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You're not going to pass on something like that. So Justin Fields is a great quarterback, and you get Justin Fields, you add him with B. John Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Drake London, and the rest of those fellas you got to work with, I think they got something special to deal with. And Jesse Bates and those boys on defense
Starting point is 00:09:03 are going to be all right. Yeah, I like that. I really like Raheem. really like raheem like i said i think he's great i think he'll resonate like you said i think he'll resonate with today's player uh but when you look at coach belichick you look at his resume and what he's done um yeah am i a little surprised? Yes. Yes. Yes. For the simple fact, I mean, he does have six Superbowls. He did have a winning record from 2001 all the way to 20, what? 19. Was it 2019, 2020? I think even after the last year Tom left, they, well, no, 2019. Tom, I think Tom last year was 2019.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And so basically from 2001 until 2019, they had a winning record. And so, and he did a decent job. Now, the last couple of years, it wasn't his finest. I don't think it was his finest team building job. I think that's right. Defensively, drafting players and putting them and putting them in position. I don't think that he'll find this, but we saw that people automatically assume what Tom Brady's in the free
Starting point is 00:10:14 agent and everybody's going to get off their quarterback to get Tom Brady. And we saw that didn't happen. Only a few teams really wanted Tom Brady. What we're finding out though, is greatest coach Belichick resume is maybe some of the teams are thinking, you're not bringing Tom with you. And we see a lot of your success
Starting point is 00:10:33 was tied to him. Now, I'm not saying that's for me out of the outside Ocho looking in, but it seems to me because nobody else has been able to lead New England and have success. No matter what it went, it didn nobody else has been able to lead New England and have success no matter what it went. It didn't matter where you went to the Cleveland. You went to the Raiders. You went to Denver. You went to wherever.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Now, Bill O'Brien did have some success in Houston, but not the level of he and he is the only one because Charlie Weiss went to Notre Dame and didn't have success. I think he also went to Kansas Dame and didn't have success. I think he also went to Kansas, and he didn't have success. So with the exception of Bill O'Brien, none of the other assistants were able to have the level of success that – but we saw a lot of guys. Ray Lewis got a lot of defensive coaches' jobs. Brett Favre got a lot of offensive coordinators' jobs. And Andy was one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:11:23 John Gruden was one of those guys. john gruden was one of those guys dick geron was one of those one of those guys there were a lot of guys that got uh uh uh mooch steve mariucci was there yeah yeah and that's amazing when you think about it when you think about it depending on what coaching tree you're from and depending on what defense you might have been a part of, that the players are so good that you may have coached. You know, the skill and the talent is already there once you get to the NFL level. The good thing for the coaches is the fact that you're actually coaching players that are already well developed. So what you're getting is the finished product. You're getting the finished product of players and just being associated with them or being
Starting point is 00:12:08 associated with, well, you being their coach at that specific position, you automatically get jobs down the line as if you're responsible for the talent you're actually coaching. When it's really just the finished product, all they're doing is executing the exit of the nose. That's all.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's funny how that works. Ray, look at the guys that Ray, the guy in Cincinnati with your coach, Marvin Lewis, you got Rex Ryan, you got Jack Del Rio, you got Mike Nolan, you got Mike Singletary,
Starting point is 00:12:42 you got Mike Smith. That's six guys that coached with the D coordinator or the linebackers coach when Ray Lewis was in Baltimore that got jobs. Lewis, you was there that 2000 season, wasn't he? The staff was Marvin Lewis with the D season. Jack Del Rio was the linebackers coach. Rex Ryan was the D line coach. Mike Smith was there. Damn. Jack Del Rio was the linebacker's coach. Rex Ryan was the D-line coach. Mike Smith was there.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Mike Nolan came. Yes, all those guys was there on one staff. That's crazy. I think, and I don't want to get off topic right here. Remember that 85-day defense? That Buddy Ryan defense with the Bears in 85. Who do you think was better? topic right here. Remember that 85 Bears defense? That Ryan defense with the Bears in 85. Who do you think was better? That 2000
Starting point is 00:13:29 Ravens defense or Buddy Ryan in back there? Man, it was different. I mean, I'm biased because I was on that. I think that's the greatest defense when you look at it. Now, the difference is the Ravens gave up the fewest amount of points. Tennessee
Starting point is 00:13:46 statistically had the better overall defense because they gave up fewer yards. So what's important? Yards? I don't know if anybody's ever going to give up 165 or fewer points in an NFL season, especially with the additional game.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You have to understand what the Ravens did. The Bears had the record at like 180. The Ravens gave up 188 points in 20 games when you include the playoffs. So in 20 games, they gave up 188 points. So what's the likelihood of somebody giving up nine points a game in a season? I don't think people, I don't even think people
Starting point is 00:14:32 understand the difficulty. I don't think people understand the difficulty in how hard that is to achieve for defense. That's difficult. We talk about the NFL. This is the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:14:44 These are the one percenters, the one percent best of the best. These are the 1% of the world and you're not allowing grown men to get more than 9 points week in and week out. No matter who you're playing. About 10.1 10.2 points a game over the regular season. And you know, you got the Steel Curtain. You got the
Starting point is 00:15:00 Doomsday defense in Dallas. You got the Purple People Eater. You got the Fearsome Foursome. You got the 0-day defense in Dallas. You got the Purple People Eater. You got the Fearsome Foursome. You got the O2 Bucks, the 13 Seahawks, the Legion of Boom. Say, we want some of this. But when you look at, I want people to chat. If you get a chance, go back and look at the stats from the Super Bowl and see what they gave up to the Giants and see how many punts and see how many turnovers,
Starting point is 00:15:27 how many takeaways they had in that game. Now, that defense didn't give up points in the Super Bowl. That was a kick return. They gave up three points to the Raiders. They gave up three points to the Broncos. They gave up 10 points to the Tennessee Titans. They gave up 10 points to the Tennessee Titans. So they gave up in four playoff games. The defense actually gave up 16 points.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So their average giving up four points a game in the playoffs. No, that's, that's crazy. When you, when you think about it, it's almost like playing a video game. Matter of fact, if you try, if you play six six this is like you play 16 games let's say just deep and just for the for the sake of do you plan somebody 16 times yes 16 different opponents there's no way you can keep somebody score from scoring like that it's impossible okay i'm gonna play somebody i'm only going to allow them 10 points a game you You can't do it in a video game, let alone that a team was able to do it in real life
Starting point is 00:16:28 consistently week in and week out. And they gave up less than 1,000 total rush yards in 16 games. So go look at... So in 16 games, all 16 teams that they played combined, if you combine their rush yards, it wasn't 1,000.
Starting point is 00:16:55 That's crazy and my yeah i had to deal with that start in 2001 from that point on that like i said look i understand with the 85 bears because you look at them they had like oh my god the sacks that they had they had like 31 picks. They were just relentless. And the defense, people hadn't seen the defense. The bare defense, which means the center and the two guards were covered. And what they did a lot of times is what we call a stretch defense. They would walk the strong safety or they would put a linebacker over the tight end and they would put Richard Dent outside for the defensive end at that time I think it was uh Mike one of those guys outside and what teams were doing they didn't understand how to block it so they ended you ended up with your running back trying to block block
Starting point is 00:17:36 Richard Dent or he was trying to block Dan Hampton and so once they started to fan to it say there's like look the linebacker is not normally going to come he's going to cover the tight end so what we're going to do is that we're going to fan protect that so we're going to take our tackle and we're going to kick him out because we know Dent or Hampton is going to come so we're going to keep that we're going to kick that
Starting point is 00:17:58 out or and what they started to do but it was good at this if you took your tad in and block Richard Dent or Hampton, Otis Wilson or Wilbur Marshall would blitz. So what they started doing, teams got really smart. So what they started doing, okay, I'm going to block. He comes. Now we dump it to the tight end.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Right away. You know, if you get an offseason, we're going to find out what you like to do. We're going to find out a way to block find out what you like to do we're gonna find out a way to block it and you had to get it and teams are still jumping it from time to time they'll still jump into the bear defense and when you cover up the center and the two guards we called it navajo a lot of teams call it stretch i mean uh bear but bear stretch is that when you put the defensive end outside and then you cover the tight. I know that's the history lesson. That's a lot of the digest guys, but the Ravens were like a basic,
Starting point is 00:18:49 a four man front. And they played what we call Tampa to a child, a lot of cover too, because you weren't going to have a whole lot of time to throw the ball. You weren't going to have a whole lot of time to cover the ball. And we had, think about they had high draft picks. Chris McAllister was the first round at corner.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Dwayne Starks was the first round at corner. You know me. You know D. Starks is my quarterback at Beach High. They were really good and they were tenacious. They won't let you play defense like that anymore, Ocho, because
Starting point is 00:19:21 if you go back and look at, we played the Bengals and you watch the hit that Rob Burnett put on Achilles Smith and you look at we played the Bengals and you watch the hit that Robert net put on Achilles Smith and you look at some of the quarterbacks the way they knocked them out of the game. Oh, you getting fine. You getting thrown out of the game and they're not going to they don't yeah, they don't let you play. They don't let you play like that. You see how
Starting point is 00:19:37 Ray was running through people. You can't hit you can't hit. Oh, oh you run that shell across Ray was Ray was knocking you out. He saw you. Yeah. He ain't want none of that. I get the bears.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Unbelievable. They had the bear shuffle. You know, they put, they came out with a catchy jingle. Oh, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I don't know. Crew. Hey, that was a guy. I had that record. I had that record. We know what they represent. Uh,
Starting point is 00:20:03 I think I forget what super bowl it was it might have been super bowl nine they had 23 hall of famers on the field yes jesus the cowboys and the steelers let that sink in you tell me the game you think you're gonna have that you'll see in your lifetime where there's 23 hall of famers on the field. 23 famous on the field. So to help me at this time, they had, they probably had 20%, 30% of the Hall of Famers that was going to go in the Hall of Fame when
Starting point is 00:20:33 they went in. Now, obviously, you know, we're at 400 guys in the Pro Football Hall of Fame now, but I'm biased, so I'm taking the 2,000 Ravens as the greatest defense. The Ravens. Another hire. Chargers hire Jim Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:20:49 We know what he's done. We know what he did at San Diego State. We know what he did at Stanford. We know what he did with the 49ers. He's a great builder. He's a great developer of quarterbacks. We know what he did when he went to Michigan. He did something that the great Bo Schembechler couldn't do.
Starting point is 00:21:05 That's win a national Michigan. He did something that the great Bo Schembechler couldn't do. That's winning national championship. He did that. He accomplished everything that he needed to accomplish at Michigan. Plus, he got out of there before they could lever any sanctions against him and send him on his way. So, I think he's great for this. He's flexible. He's tough.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Now, he's going to grind you now. He's going to grind you. He's an old school's tough now he's gonna grind you now he's gonna grind you he's an old school coach he's gonna grind on you but i definitely think he'll help help justin herbert reach the potential that he should be because he has all the skills that you can see visibly ocho the big arm yeah the height he's more athletic than you give him credit for he can make all throws change all angles uh now it's just a matter of him winning consistently and winning those games that they lose by one lose by three points maybe jim harbaugh can make him find something dig down inside and pull it out of him yeah i'm sure jim is probably going to do that i wouldn't call jim the quarterback whisperer but he was able to help another quarterback in the past yes and alex smith who had a bad season all of a sudden jim harp jim
Starting point is 00:22:09 harbaugh comes along and alex smith comes back the following year and has a stellar season you know and sort of a jump starts alex's career from that point on and obviously he got the moniker as being a game a game manager manager, blah, blah, blah, but they were winning games and he was consistent with his play and not turning the ball over. Uh, Jim Harbaugh has been able to do something that not very, very many coaches do. Sometimes coaches are good in college and sometimes coaches are not good in NFL. Sometimes coaches are not good in NFL, but they're great in college. Small example, Nick Saban as an NFL coach, not really good. Not really good. It didn't resonate too well with the grown men here,
Starting point is 00:22:49 but in college, he's all world. He's dynamic. His resume speaks for itself. Jim Harbaugh is one of the few who was able to get the most out of men and get the most out of kids. And it's shown with his resume, obviously winning a championship at Michigan. now going back to the nfl where his resume was already great obviously uh as an nfl coach he was 44 19 and 5 and 3 playoff record won the nfc championship in 2012 season you know yeah we're brother cap so listen justin herbert when i think about justin's herbert when you do the eye test strong arm like you said he's mobile the eye test i i want to call him josh allen 2.0 i don't know if i don't know if i can go there but i just i just want to put it that's he ain't mobile like john he can't run like josh yeah yeah i'm he he's not mobile like that but he
Starting point is 00:23:43 can run when need be. But he does have the arm strength. Oh, yeah, yeah. He has the arm angles, the pocket presence. He has everything else Josh has outside of the mobility. And I think he's going to do well under Jim Harbaugh. I like it. And like you said, there have been very few coaches.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You got to go back to Jimmy Johnson. He won in college, the national championship. Went back. Hey, with the Hurricanes. Went got to go back to Jimmy Johnson. He won in college, the national championship. Went back. Hey, with the Hurricanes. Went back to back Super Bowl. Go to Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll was tremendous at USC. He didn't have great success at the Jets.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He didn't have great success at New England. But we know what he did in Seattle. So, yeah, they're the three coaches that have success collegiately and have success, you know, obviously won Super Bowls in the NFL. So that speaks volumes. Yeah, very few. So I like this how about the Chargers? They needed this
Starting point is 00:24:36 and plus you got to win here. There's too much to do in LA if you don't win because they're not coming because you're not the Lakers and you're not the Dodgers because I'm not going to go in no crowd and no stadium, sit inside of a building and watch you losing when I can go sit on, on Melrose or I can go on Wilshire or I can go to Venice or I can go to the
Starting point is 00:24:58 pier or I can go drink some wine somewhere. So you've got to win. And that's why the, that why the rams did what they did they understand we got this new building we got this three five billion dollar play pin where we better be some damn good good ass kids to play in it so we have some parents to come see these kids play and that's what the chargers need to do they gotta win to try to to try to get the maybe get some of those fans that were down in San Diego to drive up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To drive up, to see them play.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But I like this hire. He got the team to do it. Look at what he got to work with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look what he got to work with defensively. Asante Samuel Jr. Khalil Mack. I'm not sure what the cap is going to be.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I'm not sure if he'll be there. But you got Derwin James. You got Bosa. Then on the offensive side as well, Keenan Allen. Mike Williams is back. He got to stay healthy. Mike Williams and Joey Bosa have to stay healthy. They haven't been able to finish a season in a long period of time, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And that's going to be key for them because the guys that you're counting on, they need to stay healthy. Now, I'm counting on you and you're not healthy. You're not really doing me a whole lot of good. That's a disservice to the Chargers and to their fan base. They're playing Joey Bosa a lot of money. They gave Mike Williams a big – I think he redid his deal. Mike Williams is making good money.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So he's got to find a way because he's sensational. Big guy, can run the tree, can high point the ball, can make all the catches. He's tremendous after the catch. He just has to stay on the field. Same thing with Joey Bosa, our defensive rookie of the year, a Pro Bowl player, can generate pressure, can get to your quarterback, can take the ball away from your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But he has to stay healthy on the field in order to be able to compliment Khalil Mack. So I love I love this hire. You look at Harbaugh, what he was in five years before Harbaugh. There was 16 and 40 with Harbaugh. There was 29 and 21. The 49ers were 33 and 47. The five years are the five years before Harbaugh when he got there there was 44-19-1 you look at Michigan before he got there, the five years
Starting point is 00:27:13 prior to him arriving, there was 38-26 with him there 89-25 in the national championship three Big Ten championships and three times they beat the Brakes off of Ohio State so you can't do any better than what jim harbaugh did back at his alma mater now can he do another can he do another rebuild and it's not a total rebuild because they have pieces in place because in college you have
Starting point is 00:27:38 to understand ocho when you go in in college you've got to get the players that you need now he got look but he's starting out really good with kil Mack, Joey Bosa, Asante Samuel, Justin Herbert, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams. I like the tight end. They got a nice left tackle in Slater. So they got some nice pieces. You got some nice pieces. A piece here or there. Change the mindset.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Let's see. Because you know now in that division, you know who's in that division. My homeboy. My homeboy is in that division. Oh, yeah. That's going to be a good thing. I think he's going to be all right, though. We talked about Harbaugh. He's had instant success
Starting point is 00:28:19 wherever he's gone. So I'm sure he's going to turn the culture around right away. Oh, yeah. For sure. So I really like this um like i said he's shown that to uh to be a guy that can build he shows that he's a guy that's flexible uh that gives guys opportunity because what he did with cap he saw something that like okay yeah and it's the same thing that Andy Reid saw. There's a ceiling with Alex Smith. No matter what you think, two quarterbacks said there's a ceiling with Alex Smith. Jim Harbaugh said, I can only go here with him.
Starting point is 00:28:57 With this guy, I can go here. Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid said there's a ceiling that i can get here with alex smith they won the division several times made the playoff yeah but there's a difference between winning the division and making the playoffs and being a favorite to win the super bowl every year and that's what patrick mahomes give you what alex smith couldn't give you so don't want to hear well look at the weapon a Alex Smith had Tyreek. Alex Smith had Travis Kelsey. Alex Smith had a lot of the guys that Travis Kelsey that,
Starting point is 00:29:31 uh, that Patrick Mahomes had. He just didn't have what Patrick had. Right. Tool. He didn't have the tools in the toolbox that Pat, that my homeboy got. So I love,
Starting point is 00:29:41 I like this hire. Good luck for the charges. And hopefully they can, um, they can, uh, get this thing turned around and they can win some games that Good luck for the Chargers. And hopefully they can get this thing turned around and they can win some games and they can bring the fans back because that's a beautiful stadium that they have. And the Chargers fans deserve to have a winning product
Starting point is 00:29:55 placed on the field on a consistent basis. So I'm expecting big things out of Jim Harbaugh. And I think the turnaround is going to be very, very quick. Oh, yeah. L.A. Chargers. Cam Newton says Lamar means more to Baltimore than Ray Lewis. I was having a conversation by a native of Baltimore, and he's like, Lamar Jackson means more to the city than Ray Lewis. He was asked, do you agree?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Cam, I have to. Listen, man. Certain fans are just a quarter of a moment. Certain fans are a quarter of a moment. And you can't forget. I mean, let me take my glasses off, man. You can't forget what Ray Lewis has meant meant not for just the city of baltimore to the nfl to the linebacker position what ray lewis has meant to the players he was able to
Starting point is 00:30:57 play against what it felt like to be on that same field and understanding and knowing you sharing the field was the greatest of all time and this is coming from somebody who had to who had to deal with him twice a year for a decade straight lamar is great in his own right i've been watching lamar since high school i've gone to the games and seen him play so i understood how dynamic and special he was way back before he even got to louisville before he even got to the baltimore ravens so i understood and knew who lamar jackson was and i already knew he even got to Louisville, before he even got to the Baltimore Ravens. So I understood and knew who Lamar Jackson was. And I already knew he was going to be special because he's one of those names
Starting point is 00:31:30 that reveals all throughout South Florida, all throughout South Florida. But Ray Lewis is just different. I mean, he's so different in such a way, I can't even conjure up the words to think on how special Ray Lewis is. To different in such a way, I can't even conjure up the words to think on how special Ray Lewis is to me as a friend, you know, that I confide in, a friend that I talk to, a friend that I pray with before every game, whether we're playing each other or whether we weren't. It's just different. The man has a statue outside of that M&t bank stadium for a reason onk is different
Starting point is 00:32:06 i think may you might be a little better at putting it together and then i am as far as how how much he meant to the game not just baltimore in general it is i can't even put in the word but i had to take the glass off. I'm about to tear up. I'm getting emotional. Let me try to ask some context. I can't put in the word. Maybe you could put in the word better for me. Let me try, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:32:39 The Cleveland Browns are the new Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens were the old Cleveland Browns. They moved in 1996. Guess who was Jonathan Ogden was the first pick in Baltimore Ravens history. The second pick was Ray Lewis. When the Baltimore Ravens weren't winning anything, they had Sugar Bear. They had Ray Lewis.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Ray Lewis. Yeah. Oh, I gave it. I gave it that name. Oh, sugar. weren't renting anything they had sugar bear they had ray lewis ray lewis yeah oh actually i gave i gave him that name oh sugar i did i absolutely did uh when you look at the baltimore ravens you think about what they were and look at when you think of the ravens you think of ray lewis now i understand lamar jackson now when it's all said and done, we might be having a different conversation. But you're talking about a guy that's a two-time defensive player of the year, a Super Bowl MVP. And when the Ravens didn't have a whole lot, they had that guy. They had 5'2".
Starting point is 00:33:35 That laid it on the line. A very emotional, a very impactful player. You're talking about one of the greatest players in the history. The 100th anniversary team, one of the middle linebackers is dick buckus the other is ray lewis so i look can we have a discussion arguably you're talking about the two greatest players in raven history already obviously you could make a case for jonathan ogden but he's an offensive lineman and they don't get normally created that a quarterback or a middle linebacker does. But when you're talking about the importance,
Starting point is 00:34:09 you can't just look at the guy that has flash, and Lamar is sensational. And so I don't want people to take this wrong. But when you think about the Baltimore Ravens, what's the first thing that comes to your mind? Defense. Defense. When you think of a Raven, you think of ray lewis
Starting point is 00:34:25 he's the de facto right now like i said when we when when lamar jackson is done we might be having a different conversation but right now he's a different conversation he was it when the ravens weren't weren't very good they had one guy that stood out and that you went to see and that was five two because he was sideline to sideline you know it's funny impactful he was emotional he made sure every other player on that defense plate rose to the level that he demanded of himself and he expected nothing less from the players that played on that field with you? Most of the time, the position and the stardom and the fame
Starting point is 00:35:09 and the command of the eye and the ability to fill seats normally comes from an offensive position. Sometimes it's a stellar personality that's sometimes a quarterback or sometimes a receiver. Very seldom are people
Starting point is 00:35:28 coming to a game to see one defensive player. One defensive player. That's how impactful and special Ray Lewis was, man. It's different and it's hard. I'm mad. I'm fucking, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I'm sorry. I'm accursed. That's $5 in the pot. I'm mad. I'm fucking, excuse me. I'm sorry. I'm accursed. That's $5 in the pot. I'm mad. I can't put the words together to describe how special Ray Lewis was. And I am on the opposite end of the spectrum on offense and having to play against him. as great as Lamar Jackson is right now, Ray means so much more and a completely different stratosphere
Starting point is 00:36:10 for that goddamn matter. It's crazy. And the thing is, Ocho, I don't know how active in the community that Lamar is, but I know how active Ray Lewis was in the community and how active that he still is.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah. And like you said, there are very few guys and normally it's not middle linebackers. You go see the Lawrence Taylors. You go see the guys that chase down the quarterback yeah but ray lewis was a guy that you went to see because he was sideline to sideline and he was a thumper and so not only is he going sideline to sideline you watching him chase guys down
Starting point is 00:36:39 you're watching him take big guys on um and so we can we're gonna revisit this i'm sure once lamar jackson's career is over we'll be able to to revisit this but what ray has meant to that the raven way the raven is is ray when you think of the raven you think of ray uh and that's no slight to lamar like i said i'm i i think i don't know because i don't i'm not around the Ravens and I don't really follow that closely anymore. I don't really follow anything because I have to have a general knowledge about the whole league. But I'm pretty familiar with it. But, man, you know, like I said, we can have this discussion. Ed Reed, another guy that's dynamic, that the all-century team uh the greatest safety that i ever played against and i played against uh uh some great ones um ray a seven-time first team
Starting point is 00:37:33 all-pro a 13-time pro bowl selection uh ravens ring of honor uh look if the chat wanted to mention ed look i played against ed Ed early in his career. And after taking him off on tape, watching him play, studying him after I left the league, I was convinced I had played against the greatest safety that had ever played. And he was only two or three years into his career. That's how, that's what, when I watched him on tape, when I played against him, and when I took him off on tape after I left the league I was convinced and that's no disrespect I played against I played against Ronnie I played against
Starting point is 00:38:11 Rod Woodson I played against Troy Palomalu I played against some guys that's in the hall I played against Aeneas Aeneas ended up moving to safety he started as a corner Ed Reed was the greatest safety that I played against, that I watched, that I played against, and that I took off on tape. Now, that's where I'm at. And some people might say,
Starting point is 00:38:30 well, it's Ronnie. Or some people might say, it's Rod Wilson. Or they might say, it's Troy Palomaro. Okay, that's fine. But I'm just saying, for what I saw, what I played against,
Starting point is 00:38:41 that's where I am on that. But guys, y'all do understand. Cam said Lamar Jackson means more to Baltimore than Ray Lewis. This was not a discussion. Who's Ed Reed is better than Ray or that? I have to discuss what the topic was. Y'all bringing other things that wasn't even in the topic. If I ask you for a burger,
Starting point is 00:39:05 don't tell me what, why, why you don't like chicken. Chicken is just as good as a burger. Damn. That wasn't the question. Hmm. I like,
Starting point is 00:39:15 I like it though. That's, that's a tough one too. That's a tough one to talk about. That's a tough one to talk about because as, as fans, we are so caught up in the now and we forget. Yes. We forget. Yes. What was, to talk about because as as fans we are so caught up in the now and we forget yes we forget yes what was we forget what was and i'm i ain't gonna let that one fly not when it come to sugar now you
Starting point is 00:39:33 ain't gonna do sugar like that we need to do that well what about sean taylor and this sean didn't play long enough maybe sean would have could challenged Ed. Maybe he could have challenged some of the greats, the Troys and the Ronnie Lots and the Rod Wilson. You talk about Deion only played two years at safety. I don't look at time as a safety. I look at time as a corner. Time is a corner. Time is in a class by himself
Starting point is 00:40:00 when it comes to the cornerback position. And look, I know about a lot of the corners, but time is it. But the cornerback position. And, you know, look, I know about a lot of the corners, but time is it. But the question was about Lamar Jackson and Ed Reed. And no slight, Lamar is fabulous. He's about to be a two-time league. No, Lamar, Lamar, Ray Lewis. That's what the topic was, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And then people were like, well, okay, well, let's add these guys to the question. But right now, for me, I think Ray, because of when he got drafted there, what he means to the city because of his impact
Starting point is 00:40:37 within the city, I think that's what gives him, that's just me. But hey, Cam has his opinion. I'm sure there are other people in the in in baltimore that says it's lamar and i'm just that's my opinion and so hey that's that's that's where i'm at with that the nfl has has have seen six coaches hired this cycle three black coaches is that a record or something in one cycle uh Gerard Mayo got hired by the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Antonio Pierce got the interim tag removed from him. He's now the full-time head coach of the Raiders. And the Falcons just hired Raheem Morris, former D.C. of the Rams, Los Angeles Rams. He was also head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at one point in time. Dave Canales, is that how you say his name? Canales. Was hired by the Panthers. Mexican-American, making him all of this.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Oh, making him the only Hispanic coach because Tom Flores was also Mexican-American as well as the guy that just got released in Washington. What was his name? Ron Rivera.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera. Oh, actually, it says Canales is the fifth coach of Latino descent. Tom Fears. Tom Fears once held the record for the most catches in a game. I think he had 19. T.O. broke that, had 20,
Starting point is 00:42:08 and then obviously Brandon Marshall ended up having 21. Tom Flores, Ron Rivera, and Brian Flores. So congratulations Dave Canales as being named head coach of the Panthers. You got your work cut out for you. Hopefully the owner
Starting point is 00:42:23 gives you more than 10 months. Hell hell three years i just hope he get hope he get hope he get more than three months david temper listen you need about three you you need about three years to turn the team around especially with the with the uh with the panthers working with now You know you need about three. Josh McDaniels, I think he's white, black. Is he Latino American? What is he? Mike McDaniel from the... With Pierce, Morris
Starting point is 00:43:00 and Mayo, the NFL now has six black head coaches. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers, Todd Bowles, Tampa Bay, D'Amico Ryan, Houston, Mike McDaniels, identified as multiracial, Robert Sala is Lebanese, and that's it. So all the guys that got hired, congratulations. Raheem Morris. Yes, ap gerard mayo congratulations guys go out there do your thing and show guys that they can do it and once they're given an opportunity they can compete so congratulations to all those guys to canalis uh that's dave canalis
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Starting point is 00:46:09 In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and today's daily dum-dum award goes to no other than kashon bootay uh he got the right name that's the right name that they put him that they put i think you said i think you said it wrong
Starting point is 00:47:00 booty oh that's even worse booty you think that's a name that's a name that ain't how you say out no you gotta you gotta say it like um like what uh what a new orleans accent i think that's like um man i don't know how to pronounce it the right way booty hey sean no it's not no bouche it's booty however you want to however you want to pronounce it, it's fitting in this situation. You got to put some little New Orleans slang on it, like a little twang, New Orleans twang to it. I don't know how to say it the right way. Even if you put the twang to it, it means booty. And it's very fitting in this situation. Kishon Booty or Booty, however you want to say it, was arrested today in Baton Rouge,
Starting point is 00:47:45 Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, for allegedly illegal gambling on sports when he went to LSU. Booty or Booty placed more than 8,900 bets from April 6th,
Starting point is 00:48:01 which is my brother's birthday, 2022 until May 7th, 2023. Now, mind you, he placed almost 9,000 bets in 397 days, more than 22 bets a day. He made at least 17 bets on college football games, including at least six on LSU. Now, here's the thing. Now, normally, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:48:28 when you like doing something illegal, you try to go out of your way. I'm not going to use my name. I'm not going to be, you know, if I'm robbing banks or something, I'm going to use a stolen car. I'm not going to use my car. Let me tell you what Dumb Dumb did would think oh joe you know you're not supposed to be gambling illegal gambling or
Starting point is 00:48:52 definitely not to be gambling on college football or your game guess what dumb guess what his username was i will give you one guess what you think his username was. I'm saying his first name, KB. Okay, last name B. Maybe KB and his number. Ladies and gentlemen in the chat, his username to place these illegal
Starting point is 00:49:21 bets was Kayshawn Boutte. His actual name. Wait, he... Whoa. His actual name... How do you think they called Dumb Dumb? Thank you. He used his real name?
Starting point is 00:49:35 That's why he get the Dumb Dumb of the Day award. So, hold up. He was placing so many bets that that account couldn't handle it so he had to get another account guess what this one was kashon bootay zero one hey wait let me let me wait let me let me get my bearings right bearings right. I've been out of college a very long time. Gambling on your phone on games is illegal, correct? Look, in the NFL, you can't gamble on NFL property.
Starting point is 00:50:19 So if you're placing a bet on your phone, you can't be at the stadium, you can't be at the practice facility, or you can't be on NFL business. That's where a lot of the guys were getting in trouble. They were placing bets while at work. Now, in college, I don't really know the college situation, but I don't think you're supposed to be betting on college football.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And you're definitely not supposed to be betting on your own team because you can influence the outcome of that. Now, if you're a professional golfer, Phil Mickelson, Tiger Woods, all those guys, John Rahm, they can bet on themselves because why? It's an individual sport. So you can bet on yourself to win. Damn, man. 8,900? 8,900 bets. Almost 9 9 000 bats in 397 days and not only was he doing something illegal the dum-dum he wins dum-dum of the day award he used his actual his actual username
Starting point is 00:51:19 hey can you you um you got to help me out now you know you know i'm not a gambler like that i'm i'm i don't really spend my money like that so you gotta you gotta give me give me a better understanding on yes i understand it's illegal but and is it it's an arrestable even if it's two years ago? Yes. It's just like, I'm not saying he did that. It's kind of like, I don't know if you remember the fixing of the games. Like Headache Smith, the guy at Arizona State, Headache, they called him Headache. There was another guy. Who else was it?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Was it Hot Rod Williams? There was another guy. There have been some guys that was involved. And, you know, and that's why, you know, that's why the NFL was so hesitant with the gambling situation. Right. Because of this. And this is why Ocho, they released the injury report because they want everybody to have the information. Because if everybody don't have the information.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Right. And now you've got a team official. You know, Tom Brady ain't going to play right oh he not hey give me the give me give me give me the i'm gonna take the team the patriots player i'll give you those points oh hey check this out you know hey you know that game playing you know my home's injured. Really? Now, that's why the NFL tries to put everything on the up and up so they can't nobody because you know they got the fish. And once you get in depth, once they get them hooks
Starting point is 00:52:53 in you, now I got you. Man, listen, I don't understand gambling. I'm going to be honest with you. It's two for one. You already know I don't like spending money for two. If I'm not in control, if I'm
Starting point is 00:53:12 not in sole control of my wins and losses... That's why they don't want you gambling because you are in control. You're a wide receiver that's actually playing in the game so you can influence the game. Right. I don't like that that i just don't understand i wish people got got a hold of themselves when they came to gambling a little bit more
Starting point is 00:53:32 you're already making good money obviously in college you have nil deals i'm not sure if nil was in place actually when he was playing but you get enough money at some point you're gonna make it to the league there's no need to be greedy about it there's no need to be greedy about it with gambling it got too many moving goddamn parts got and that g-o-t not g-o-d g-o-t is too many goddamn parts but you don't understand you're not you're not you're not making that much money where you have to do it that much money okay you got the you got the ravens and you got the yous and you got Kansas City. Ravens are favored by three and a half. Are you going to give the Ravens the three and a half?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Do you believe the Ravens are going to win by four points or more? What don't you understand? Do you believe the Kansas City Chiefs will cover the, will they lose by three and a half or by four points, three and a half or less? What is that? I mean, it's not that simple. But listen to what I'm saying. three and a half or less. What is that? I mean, it's that simple.
Starting point is 00:54:25 But, Juan, listen to what I'm saying. How much are you winning? Is it going to make that much of a difference? It's just that you're winning. When people go putting nickels in the slot, it's not like they're winning millions of dollars. It's the fact that you're winning. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Okay, I see what you're saying. Just the feeling of actually winning, but you're not getting a significant amount that's life-changing where you just have to do it if that makes sense that's just me you actually think they're building those buildings in vegas with winners money they build those buildings with losers money hell that's how they keep the lights on hey you think i should matter of fact when we go to vega you think i should you think i should try gambling because if you don't understand the game i'm not gonna learn i'm not gonna learn a game
Starting point is 00:55:13 with my money i'm gonna already know how to play well you gonna tell me and then i'm gonna bet you need to understand like i play black understand. Like, I play blackjack. I understand the rules of blackjack. And you need to be at a table where everybody understands the rule of blackjack. Because it's the one game that somebody can F it up if they take a card and they shouldn't. Or they should take a card and they don't. So you have to be at a table where people know what the F they doing. Because they'll mess the whole table up so that's why you know i don't really you know i go and i'm if i'm gonna play if i play blackjack now i'm playing 10 15 25 dollars a hand i lose a thousand dollars okay i'm good
Starting point is 00:55:58 but there are once upon a time i'm playing 500 to 525 hundred, 2,500 a hand, I needed people at the table to understand. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You lose a thousand dollars on $20, $25 a hand, you okay? And then you also played $25 a hand? You played over a period of time. And that's the thing. If you go to the casino, you don't see clocks on the wall
Starting point is 00:56:21 because they want you to lose track of time. And they keep pumping that fresh oxygen in there to keep your ass awake. So you don't see the clock. You don't see clocks on the wall because they want you to lose track of time. And they keep pumping that fresh oxygen in there to keep your ass awake. So you don't see the clock. You don't see anything. What's going on? What time is it? It's dark. You don't know when the sun's up, sun down. You start playing. You lose track of time. Next thing you know, boom, you're in the hole.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Understand? Oh, Joe, come on now. You say you like chess. They play checkers. But I tell you what, he got the right name because where he about to go, they're going to love him on boot tape. They're going to tell him off. I mean, he don't got to go to jail. I mean, obviously, we got to jail, you're going to burn out.
Starting point is 00:56:55 But all you have to do is just pay a fine, right? You don't get to commit no crime until you're on crime and then say, oh, I'm going to pay a fine and everything's going to be good. That's up to the DA. There's a chance he might go to jail. That's up to, that's up to, that's up to the DA. That's a chance. He might go to the bank and they're going to let that boot. They're going to tear him up.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Hide your booty. Wait, there she blows. You should buy jail time. Yeah. Jail time. And then hold on. On top of jail time,
Starting point is 00:57:24 you also have to deal with the commissioner after that and have discipline absolutely they they suspended alex karras they suspended paul horning for betty yeah shit whoa whoa wait wait wait wait wait. Can what happened in college still be held against him if he's already in the NFL? Remember, this is 2022, you said. This is 2022. So can the NFL still come in with something that was long before he even got to the NFL? But we saw them do that with a prior. Remember, he got in trouble, Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And they ended up suspending him. Yeah, he gave the paraphernalia and his gang stuff. And they ended up suspending him. Yeah, he gave the paraphernalia and his signing stuff and they ended up suspending him for something that happened in college when they weren't supposed to. So the NFL kind of operates on their own side. But I'll just go talk about, hey, bro,
Starting point is 00:58:17 I just don't get it, Ocho. That's what I don't get. You actually, first of all, they're going to find out because somebody's going to know who it is hey man check this out the same way them nfl players they got popped for gambling they got people in the league that's running this information you yeah they watch everything you heard me they aren't you know all the they they know your homeboys they know the type of people you hang with they
Starting point is 00:58:44 know you go they know what you like to do but they know everything homeboys. They know the type of people you hang with. They know where you go. They know what you like to do. But they know everything about you. The stuff you think they don't know. Yeah. They know everything. Everything is crazy. He's also accused of creating an online betting account under a fictitious name and placing illegal bets while he was under the age of 21 and not legally allowed to gamble. Hmm. Oh, they ain't playing.
Starting point is 00:59:09 They backtracking too. You remember Calvin Ridley? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:17 But like I said, Calvin Ridley was a first round draft pick making millions he hustling backwards because what he did he won a hundred dollars or fifty dollars and lost 11 million so okay this is what i'm gonna do i will give you a chance you wage 11 million and you can win a hundred dollars now you tell me in what scenario does that make sense to you? Yeah, I don't think like that though. You got $11 million salary. You're also how many times did you walk into the locker
Starting point is 00:59:56 room and you see that game? No gambling allowed in the NFL. How many times you walk past that side in Cincinnati? I want to pass it every day during the season for 14 years in Denver and in Baltimore. So it's on every wall
Starting point is 01:00:10 in every NFL locker room. No gambling. Period. I got an $11 million salary. I'm willing to risk my $11 million salary to win $500. If that ain't hustling backwards.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you know, you, you, you would think in that when you're in your right state of mind, you don't think like that,
Starting point is 01:00:39 but obviously he wasn't thinking that there was a possibility of getting caught until you actually did. Yeah. You not no criminal like that. I, Obviously, he wasn't thinking that there was a possibility of getting caught until you actually did. Why you... You're not no criminal like that. I... And if you do anything, you're going to get caught. How you think they catch drug dealers? Right.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Oh, because they don't know when the journey is over. Nobody said, hey, you get that one score. You should quit or you could quit but you what you say ojo just one more yeah just one more yeah yeah like i i used to i used to work for i used to work for grizel never mind i ain't gonna bring that up right now so also we got another dumb dumb of the of the of the what wait there is a risk warrant issue for a motorcyclist after uh-huh after he posted a video of a 20-minute drive from colorado springs to denver hey is that bad colorado springs to denver is at least 75 miles. He got there in
Starting point is 01:01:45 20 minutes. He was traveling at speeds of over 150 on a crotch rocket. He recorded himself doing this. Wait, what was he driving? He was driving a motorcycle? Man, you know how fast that is? You know how fast it is to get somewhere that's 75 miles in just 20 minutes? You know how fast that is you know how fast it is to get somewhere
Starting point is 01:02:05 that's 75 miles in just 20 minutes you know how fast 150 miles an hour is so if you can go 150 miles an hour on a bicycle at that let me bicycle on a motorcycle that's a different ball game you know one mistake you gone boy he better than me
Starting point is 01:02:23 yes let me guess this was for tiktok or something huh come on man they coming to get you boy or they could they come to get you we need we need to see you reckless driving uh putting other people's lives in danger putting your own life in danger like i said breaking the rule the time of day obviously impacts that, but it's like 75, 80 miles, so it's normally going to take you at least 60
Starting point is 01:02:51 to 75 minutes. Yes. He did it in 20. That's crazy. They got him. They found him. Yeah. Oh, they got him already. This is what they charged him with.
Starting point is 01:03:06 They placed another person in fear of imminent serious bodily danger, engaged in a speed contest, reckless endangerment, reckless driving, speeding at 40 miles an hour over the perimeter limit. So whatever the limit was, you afford. So he's what they call a, what they call it in Georgia? No, a super speed. They call those super speeders. When you, yes, when you go, I think it's 30 miles an hour over the limit.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I think that's what in Georgia is called a super speeder. Over the limit. Okay. It gave an exhibition of speed. Right. Vehicle had no number plates attached. But he was smart enough not to put no tags on a vehicle. He was.
Starting point is 01:03:46 So the only reason they found him is because of the account he posted it to. All for bragging. High fan. The things we do. See? See the note, Joe? See? For the gram.
Starting point is 01:04:00 The things we do. Great content. I'm sure that's the way you make money, though. I'm sure that's the way you make money though I'm sure that's the way you make money the more views he gets the more followers he gets the more money you're able to make
Starting point is 01:04:09 so what's he gonna how much he gonna make you do now you got so really probably not yeah that's what I'm thinking too probably none probably not
Starting point is 01:04:18 oh yeah for sure you lose your motorcycle license as a super speeder right yes ah just to get that content You need your motorcycle license? As a super speeder? Right. Yes. Just to get that content. Hold on. They say in 15 miles an hour in Georgia,
Starting point is 01:04:34 you're considered a super speeder. Okay. I know. 15 miles an hour over. So the speed limit, 55. If you're going 87, you're considered a super speeder? Oh, the 25. Look at the super speeder? Oh, the 25? Look at the super speeder law in Georgia.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I thought it was 30. But we'll see what it is. But I do know that's what it's called. I was one of those guys, but that was before the law. I got stopped. I got stopped twice in a matter of 10 minutes. I got stopped going 108 in a 55 and I got stopped 92. Dang, how can you be speeding like that?
Starting point is 01:05:10 It's going 75 miles per hour on a two-lane road. 85 more on any other road or highway. So anything over 85 on a three-lane, anything 75 miles an hour over on a two-lane road, 85 miles an hour, over 85 miles an hour over on a two lane road, 85 miles an hour,
Starting point is 01:05:26 over 85 miles an hour. So there's really no set number. If you're going 85 or more on a three lane road, that's considered a super speeder. Uh, but at the time, Ocho, um,
Starting point is 01:05:36 there was no super speeder. I was in, I was in college, uh, you know, and I was on, um, there was like,
Starting point is 01:05:43 I was going this way and I saw the cop. I saw the cop and, uh, he, you know, he's family to break in the rear end. Come up. I'm like, brother, you can't do that to me. You over there. I'm over here because it's the median and there's, there's, there's wires. So he can't go. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:06:00 God dang on walkie talkie. Right on the head. You radioed up ahead, huh? Ocho. I got up the road. Right. No, I ain't got no answer. I wasn't even thinking
Starting point is 01:06:13 that he was going to call ahead. Dude was already out of his car. What you did? Point and pull it over. Oh, he was ready for you. They had like three of them over there. They pulled me over. I got a ticket, got a hundred and eight. They had like three of them over there. They pulled me over. I got a ticket on 108.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I ain't learned my lesson. Got another ticket about two miles, like four miles down the road, going 92. Wait, you went back going fast again? It was going back again. I was headed home. No, I was like I said, I was a college student. Okay, yeah. And then, you know, after that time,
Starting point is 01:06:49 I ain't really drove because at that time, everything was in my brother's name. And so, obviously, he gonna find out because the agent knew my brother personally and he called and told him. Oh, yeah. Like I said, me and my brother have a very unique and told him oh yeah the thing was with him like like i said
Starting point is 01:07:05 me and my brother have a very unique relationship it's more like he's my father than my brother even though he's only three years older because my sister's the same way because they basically raised me my grandpa you know my you know my grandmother was working and my grandfather was kind of sick at the time and my mom was in chicago so we were living with my grandparents and so my sister and brother is kind of like my mom and my dad. But he ain't Yale. I just remember him calling me. He said, Shannon, he said, I,
Starting point is 01:07:31 what's his name? Ashley. That's the insurance agent's name, Ashley. He said, he told me, you got to stop. Actually, I called him. I called him before Ashley could tell him. And I told him, bro, man Ashley could tell him and I told him bro man I got stopped
Starting point is 01:07:48 he said how fast you was going I said I was going 108 and I was going 92 and the thing was Ocho I went to the thing and paid it out of my pocket I had them bands on me you know what I'm saying bro I had it right I had my boys they put me out the front
Starting point is 01:08:03 you know hey I got in the car. My homeboy was with me. They drove. They drove to the police station. They say it's going to be X amount of dollars. I counted them things. Hey, I like a money counter. I peeled hundreds off there.
Starting point is 01:08:19 They're looking at me like, how does your family got that? Don't worry about all that. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Brandon. I peeled brandon i peeled them things off got up out of there went back again hey went right back damn damn it i believe they took me back to the same police station i peeled some more but i called him i said bro they started that guy was going 108 and a 55 i was going 92 and he just i just remember him calmly saying he said shannon you blow a tire you hit somebody he said forget you what you think that's gonna do to granny and when that's all he had to say shannon he said you know the baby, you know how granny feel about you.
Starting point is 01:09:06 If something, if you were to kill yourself, you might as well put granny in the box with somebody else. That's all I needed to hear. That's it. Yeah. So learn my lesson on Joe, learn my lesson.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And so it's so funny. We talk about speed and you i i pull up i i put up driving a ferrari the past two days you know i normally i normally don't point any of the toys out i'm very simple i'm either i'm either in my suburban that i have all the kids when i'm when we have to do something we go somewhere or i'm driving my little smart car. So I decided, I decided to pull out. And the funny thing about it is people were making fun of me because I took a picture and I'm driving. Obviously I'm listening to Frank Sinatra and I'm driving.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I took a picture, you know, I'm driving and you know how fast I was going on the highway and people was making fun of me. I was doing about 45 miles an hour. Yeah. It's like, I've, I've, I've lost,
Starting point is 01:10:07 I've lost that. Um, what's, what's the word I'm looking for? I lost the, the, yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And I'm, and it's just, I think the fact that it's worn on me so much that I haven't been in that type of mental state where the need to get somewhere fast, it's just not in me anymore, especially based on maybe, maybe age. Maybe I've matured a little bit. Maybe the music I'm listening to is why I was driving that slow,
Starting point is 01:10:33 but I thought I was going just fine. And it dawned on me when people were laughing at me in the comments, you, you only doing 45 miles an hour. Right. Ask what the fuck are you doing that's like dawning like god damn what the hell has changed what the hell is wrong with me the fact that i don't even take advantage of some of the perks and some of the things that
Starting point is 01:10:54 i've worked my ass off for to where it's like it's nothing anymore that's weird i don't know at what point in life i got to this space where i'm at now where i think the thing is at the time i didn't have kids and so you you view things through a different prism once you have kids because now um all of a sudden you have something to live for see that's the thing see people think somebody that that that's not afraid of dying is the most dangerous person. It's a person that finds a way to live. That's the most dangerous person, because most of the time you hear people say when they have these stories and they are in a situation, they keep saying to themselves, they're not saying I'm going to die. They said, I'm going to live.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I got this person that's back home and I'm going to see them. Right. So now all of a sudden you got kids you have responsibilities when i didn't have no responsibility i didn't look at it like that and i didn't even at the time when i was doing it i didn't even cross my mind because i thought about my granny yeah i would have never done it in the first place right because i because because I already know you go like ooh lord have mercy and so that was that was my thing but I definitely wasn't going to post
Starting point is 01:12:13 it it wasn't something it wasn't my proudest moment it wasn't something like hey man you know your boy was going to 108 and 92 yada yada yada nah at that point in time you know you're young you think you're invincible you really think you can fly you know i had a uh yeah yeah a white with peanut butter with peanut butter guns mercedes
Starting point is 01:12:34 a 300e you know kumo D when he came up with that song he had a Benz 190 yeah wait not Wild Wild West not the Wild Wild West okay okay okay I'm driving Benz 190 3.6 and you know where to find me
Starting point is 01:12:58 girls behind me jockeying blindly no need to remind me who I am you know you know me stop but I had jockeying blindly no need to remind me who i am you know you know me stop yeah yeah i have but i had i had to be i had to i had to beat the 300d so i had to step above that yeah and uh man it's just like i said you you know you live and you learn and you know as you get older things that you did you look back like what the f that i do that i mean i'll be come up there a lot of things
Starting point is 01:13:23 that you look back on and some of you like okay that's an experience i'm glad i did that and then other things you're like bro god man god was really looking out for you bro so uh back by popular demand Cinco! Spello Cinco is where I give you a word and you being the Spelling Bee champ that you are, you spell it. So, since we're about to hit Black History Month,
Starting point is 01:14:01 yeah, baby, we're a couple days away, so we're going to start off with something easy February February F-E-B-R-U-N-R-Y that's good that's good that's real good that's real good okay this one I think it's it's implies it's kind of like you, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:26 because I'm sure there's plenty of females that have told you, you, you displayed or exhibited this type of behavior or personality. Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah. Uh, I think just hold your hands up like this. Cause I got to make sure you're not, you know, you're not getting Siri, like spelling me words out for you. So yeah, keep your head right there. It looks straight here. Yeah. Uh, I think just hold your hands up like this. Cause I got to make sure you're not, you know, you're not getting Siri, like spelling any words out for you.
Starting point is 01:14:46 So yeah, keep your head right there. It looks straight here. Yeah. Uh, the next word we're going to spell is called narcissistic. Narcissistic. Stop looking down. Stop looking down. See y'all looking down.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Look at that. Close your eyes. Close your eyes. Cause normally when those, those kids spell, they, they have the little thing like right here. Narcissistic. Okay. Can I get the origin of the word? Can I get the word used in a sentence? OK, word used in a sentence. Chad Ochocinco Johnson is a narcissistic person. Nar. I don't think anyone has ever called me narcissistic. I'm not sure what the meaning of narcissistic.
Starting point is 01:15:23 You do know what it is. Is. But no, I don't. I'm not narcissistic. I'm not sure what the meaning of narcissistic is. You do know what it is. But, no, I don't. I'm not narcissistic. I'm just Ocho. N-A-R Narcissistic. No, I don't know how to spell that one. I ain't even gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 01:15:38 You're good. You're good. Spell it out. N-A-R C-I-S-S C-I-S-S-I-T-I-C. Okay? I-S-T-I-C. Okay, yeah. I don't know how to spell that.
Starting point is 01:16:09 That's a good one right there. Hey, what is the definition of narcissistic anyway? Because I see on Twitter all the time, I think people use it in the wrong term and give it to every goddamn body. You think that's what it is? You think that's what it is? So what do you think?
Starting point is 01:16:24 They use narcissistic with every goddamn body. You think that's what it is? So what do you think? They use narcissistic with every goddamn body. Everything. Every word. Anybody do anything wrong? Oh, he's narcissistic. What is the meaning of narcissistic? I'm just asking the gentleman.
Starting point is 01:16:35 If a belief or having a very high, high self interest in oneself is that you put above all other things. It does not matter someone else's feelings. It doesn't matter someone else's. It's all
Starting point is 01:16:54 about Ocho. Well, that's what everybody does. Everybody's a narcissistic in some sense. But you can't be like that in all things okay okay okay okay I see what you mean
Starting point is 01:17:09 oh I got this one because this one is really good and I think you'll be great because you like words we're silent and you don't really have to say it
Starting point is 01:17:19 so how about this I was sick the other day and I think I had a bout of pneumonia oh pneumonia yes pneumonia I was sick the other day and I think I had a bout of pneumonia. Oh, pneumonia. Yes. P-N-E-M-O-N-I-A.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yep. Huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm right now. I know I'm right. No, actually, you forgot the U. It's P-N-E-U.
Starting point is 01:17:50 N-E-U. Okay. I said N-E-U. Monia, M-O-N-I-A. Paradigm. Oh, Paradigm. P-A-R-A-D-Y-M-E. No, no, no. It sounds like paradigm, but that's not how you spell paradigm. Oh, say it again. Say it again. Oh, it's D-Y-N-E.
Starting point is 01:18:21 You're wrong. Or am I wrong? You know, it's paradigm as D-I-M-E, but that's not how it's spelled. That's how it sounds. That's why sometimes the sound can confuse the spelling. Paradigm. For some reason, paradigm. For some reason, I bet it's D-I-M-E, huh?
Starting point is 01:18:45 You keep spelling dime. That's the coin. That's a currency. A D-I-M-E is a dime. That is a currency that's after a nickel. Yeah. You notice I said D-Y first, right? Because I thought it was going to be a little tricky.
Starting point is 01:19:05 P-A-R Paradigm. How do they spell it? Uh-huh. Come on. P-A-R-A D-I-R-A Yeah, D. This was confusing.
Starting point is 01:19:20 D-I-M No. Yes. Wait, G-M-E? G-M. what's confusing the i am no yes wait no gm that's it that's it paradigm that makes no fucking i'm sorry i'm sorry you were close to ocho yeah you know i thought you had it hey now hey I like, we got to do this every show. I like the spelling thing. Calvin Dickerson says, Uncle Nocho loves the show. Question, would you be shocked if the Lions upset the 49ers? No.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Am I picking the Lions? Here it is. Do I believe the Lions could beat the 49ers in a best of seven? No, I don't. But you don't have to. I just have to be better than you that day. It's like a boxing match. It's like a UFC fight.
Starting point is 01:20:17 It doesn't matter. I just need to be better than you one day for one game. Yeah. That's why we love that's why we love that's why we love football because in the world series you've got to beat somebody four times in a basketball you got to beat somebody in a series four times in football we saw the Giants beat the 18-1 New England Patriots. Do we
Starting point is 01:20:50 believe the Giants could beat them four times? No, I don't. But they didn't have to. So, yes, the Giants could absolutely, the Lions could absolutely, on a given Sunday, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:07 That's what makes that game so good. Let's see. RDR said, what's up, Okonocho? I have a hypothetical scenario. If Dak asked Dallas and was out of the trade to Atlanta, but Dallas asked for three first-round picks, would you take that deal? Hell no.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Patrick Mahomes? Oh, Patrick Mahomes is going for three first-round picks. And he might be the only one. Now, you might get two and some change for Joe Burrow. You might get two and some change for Josh Allen. But three first-round picks, if Kansas City called up, quarterback might, but not that. Joe Burrow might go.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. But can we believe that Lamar Jackson's going to go for it? Because, hell, wouldn't nobody give him two first-round picks last year? But there ain't no question in my mind. If Kansas City called and said, look, we got Patrick Mahomes on the block, how many teams would give up three first rounders for Patrick Mahomes? Chicago got all those picks. They trade
Starting point is 01:22:09 all their damn picks. They'd be like what New Orleans did for Ricky Williams. We'll give you all our picks. Right. But no, I do not believe that would go for three first round picks. That's just me. Do you believe that goes for three first round picks?
Starting point is 01:22:28 No. No. I think maybe a first round. A first and a second. A first and a third. A two. First and a two. First and a two. I like me personally. This is a hypothetical for Atlanta. I like Justin Fields better to Atlanta than Dak.
Starting point is 01:22:46 I like Dak and Dallas. I like Dak and Dallas. I like Dak and Dallas. They're going to get a situation over there. They're going to do what they need to do. There's one thing they need to do. There's been one common denominator. They just need to take a backseat and let them
Starting point is 01:23:01 boys do what they do. Let the coaches coach. let the players play. And I think they're going to be fine. In y'all opinion, what player had not been for injury would have went on to become an all time great basketball. Brandon Roy. He was sensational. Greg, Greg, Greg Oden. You know what? I would have liked to seen Grant Hill, even though he did make the Hall of Fame,
Starting point is 01:23:28 had that ankle. The ankle. Had he not because he would play. T-Mac, even though he made the Hall of Fame, can you imagine what T-Mac career would have been? Bo Jackson. Hill. Bo, the hip injury.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I was in the lead when Bo would do it and he was playing both ways. It would have been great to see what he could have been had he just played one or the other. But he was dynamic in both. Made the Pro Bowl. Made the All-Star game. He was sensational.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah. Let's see who else would I be like, barring injury. You know what? I would have liked to see Peter Warwick's entire career healthy. I would like to see Peter. David Pollak. Remember David Pollak? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:13 David Pollak was with us. He was a first-round pick with us. Penny Hardaway. That neck injury early in his career. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yes. Penny did get hurt.
Starting point is 01:24:23 D. Rose. I forgot. Oh, that's right. Yes. Penny did get her D Rose. I forgot. Oh, yo. Yo, D Rose when he was healthy. Holy another guy probably before your time, but he had a good career, but he was going to be
Starting point is 01:24:37 special. Bill Walton. Bill Walton. Had he not had those man, Bill was like Bill was an MVP. that? Had he not had those feet, man. Bill was like that? Man, Bill was an MVP. What, his knees? You know, big guys, man. You know, them feet, them lower pendulums,
Starting point is 01:24:53 knees and feet. Right. Yep. Ah, shit. I mean, he went to the Hall of Fame, but he was, you know, obviously he was sensational. One of the first true passing big mans.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Right. Could really pass the basketball. Obviously played with Coach Wooden out here right down the street from me and Westwood. sensational. One of the first true passing big man could really pass the basketball. Obviously, playing with Coach Wooden out here right down the street from me and Westwood. But yeah, Brandon Roy, Penny Hardaway. Gilbert
Starting point is 01:25:15 Arenas. That knee, man. Knees. Gil talked about that. My brother, I mean, his last year, he had 18 touchdowns. 94 brother, I mean, last year, he had 18 touchdowns. 94 catches, 18 touchdowns, and never played another game.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Damn. That neck, he wasn't worth chasing on. No, the doctor told him he, he had done, he had done dodged
Starting point is 01:25:41 a couple of bullets. He had done dodged a couple of bullets. Gale Sayers. Yeah. What happened to Gale? He tore his ACL. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:51 And back then, you know, they just split the whole knee open. It ain't a small surgery. Man, they had that big zipper on your knee. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For real? TD. You know, TD was a big game guy, man.
Starting point is 01:26:06 I mean, yeah, he was never the same after that. He had a couple of good games, but he wasn't the same. He wasn't the same. No. You weren't the same? Lamar Lack is there, Chad. I'm still upset from you guaranteeing the win versus the Chiefs when we were undefeated.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Oh, yeah, I remember that. That 9-0 year. I think that was 2003. Hey, they had that human joystick, man. That boy was special, man. Dante. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I ain't care.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Y'all coming here, we for the win. Uncle Ocho, if y'all were playing today, which quarterback in team's offense would you rather play in for the Sunday's game? Lamar or Patrick? I'd rather be a part of... Hey, it don't matter. Either one, I'm going to be open.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Either one, I'm going to be open. I know that. I'm going to go ahead and... I'm going with Patrick. I'm going with Lamar. I'm going with Andy Reid in that offense because I know the West Coast system. And I know what that offense is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:17 For a tight end, you see Kelsey's number? Kelsey's number. Kelsey is seven catches away from having the most catches and the most touch and what he already he and Patrick Holmes already have the most touchdown between a duo he's seven catches away from passing Jerry right yeah that's crazy that's crazy I I like that that's dope yeah that's that's a great feat I just like I just I would love to just play with lamar because i i'd
Starting point is 01:27:46 be the one he called to play in the huddle you know i used to do this with carson carson would call to play in the huddle and before i break the huddle to let him know i want the ball i tap his hip oh yeah like you know you break the huddle break and i get one tap before i walk out and when i get to the line of scrimmage and he doing out the call, you know, you point to the mic and you're doing whatever you need to do. And based on the defense and I'm talking about when I really want the ball, I don't care what they plan. Two man, 55 cover, two quarters. It don't matter. The first thing I do really loud.
Starting point is 01:28:22 We could be in a stadium, a screaming stadium with 80,000. You could hear my special call. I go, yeah. Right. Just real loud. Just to let them know that's the second time. I'm going to tap your hip.
Starting point is 01:28:33 And when I get to the line of scrimmage, while you're doing your points and whatever you need to do with the O-line, all you're going to hear is, yeah. Just to let you know, all right, there's a second one.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Like, let's go now. I got you right here. Come hell or high water. I don't care what the coverage is. I don't care what they plan. They in my face, whether they off. I don't care if they plan me like the guy. Yeah, let me.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah, man, let me get this ball. I got you. And every time I guarantee we did that. I didn't do it all the time. I wasn't greedy. I could just see me doing that to Lamar. I i don't care what the play is i don't care about no rpo man forget the fate i'm a tappy hip and i'm hitting that when i hit you that's how i used to do i didn't tap john i was always because he was we were right we were like right across from each
Starting point is 01:29:20 other and i was all i would always tell him we break the little give me a look t and he'd be like he'd be like he like t you block it i like i know but if you're in trouble i'll leak out for you yeah yeah what i never wanted to do and and you you know you can attest to this you never want to say nothing to the quarterback because they already got enough to worry about. Yep. Calling the plays, making the calls at the line of scrimmage. So mine was I'd never talk. I'd never talk to Carson.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I'd tap his hip just to put it in his mind. And then when I'm on the outside, why are you doing this calls? And he hears that, all right, you already know what time it is. You already know I'm here for you. I don't care what's going on. I don't care if somebody's coming off the edge. You got a little leakage you already know i'm here for you i don't care what's going on i don't care somebody coming off the edge you got a little leakage just know i'm like i'm like bird control i'm like life insurance you're only 99 sure you're only 99 don't you you're only about to die it'd be flip i got you listen you got good swimmer
Starting point is 01:30:19 listen that that that that that slip up is reed. That's what I'm doing. 99.9% sure that that point one or whatever, that's Revis. Now, I can live with that because that's one of the best several. Man, Ocho, I was in a game one time. I came back to the hood. I said, come on, T-Man. Give me the ball. I was open.
Starting point is 01:30:41 He's like, you weren't. I told him. I said, come on. You said that? Yeah. I said, come on, T. Give me the ball. I was open. Nah, he's like, T, you weren't open. I said, man, I was open. He's like, I told him, I said, yeah, I said, come on, give me the ball. I was open.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Nah, he's like, I said, man, I was open. He called it. Other play came back to the huddle. He said,
Starting point is 01:30:54 I tell you what, when I watched the film tomorrow, if you weren't open, you're not getting any balls next week. I'm like, Oh damn. I came back. I came back. That's like,
Starting point is 01:31:03 like three, four plays later. I said, AT, you know, that play I told y'all was open. I wasn't open. I came back. I came back like three, four plays later. I said, A.T., you know that play I told you I was open? I wasn't open. I wasn't. You ain't been the best on my ball. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I need you. I need you. I lied. I was lying. I was lying. I was playing. I was just playing. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Yeah, nah. Hey.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Hey. Listen. Hey, I told you. I think I told you at that time I was opening Carson over through me a little bit. We just talked about Diggs. When Diggs throw his arms up a little bit. Man, I remember I did that one time.
Starting point is 01:31:36 I snapped my goddamn chinstrap going back to the huddle. Man, shit. I ain't never seen Carson act like that. Man, if you ever motherfucking show me up On goddamn TV like that again I won't throw you another fucking ball this game But I look
Starting point is 01:31:54 But I look and I say, oh shit I ain't never That's out of character for him That's out of character for him But I had to understand that We playing Monday It might have been Sunday night right the cameras on me The cameras on me and the cameras on him. So when when you miss something like that, they're gonna take that and run with it
Starting point is 01:32:13 They gonna take that and make something out of nothing So my mannerisms couldn't be like that and he understood it at the time at the time. I didn't understand I don't know But then I got it he explained it to me after the game and then I got a better answer okay okay you know what you right you right my emotions got the best of me and I really really wanted that ball not not just for you yeah but for me as well yeah that's a short story no I never did it again for the most part for the most part oh never oh never because that was my job like they did if guys would do that because like a lot of young guys
Starting point is 01:32:44 they used to do that they was the guy in college If guys would do that, because like a lot of young guys, they used to do that. They was the guy in college. And they would do that. And you're like, hey, T, you better let them know. I said, hey, bro, don't do that. Don't do that. We had a guy.
Starting point is 01:32:54 We was in practice. And he had came. He was a free agent. He had came over. And John threw him a stick. He was a tight end. John threw him a stick. And you know,
Starting point is 01:33:06 it was like, he just had to bend just to look. Get up so I can show you. Ocho, he had to bend like this here. Yeah. Because he was on the right side. So John threw it. He had to do like that. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Ocho, he looked back at Seba. Right. On the back here. He looked back at Selma, said, put that one on me. I said, oh my God. Man, I went grab. Man, oh, Joe. Man, I grabbed little boy so quick. I said, no, bro, you can't do that. I said, man,
Starting point is 01:33:40 bro, they'll cut you today. Man, don't ever do that. He's like, hey, cuz I put that one on me? Right. I said, oh, my God. He told John Elway. He looked like that. And Buddy was tripping.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Put that one on me. I said, Lord have mercy. Right. I mean, I wouldn't have. Hey. Don't come in here with that. I would say. Oh, hell no.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Don't come in here with that crazy shit. I don't know where you came from. Would they say that to the quarterback? But you can't say that to that quarterback. Hell, I wouldn't even say that. No, sir. Man, dudes. Hey, dudes kept the ball to me one time.
Starting point is 01:34:15 I said, my bad, John. I should have got up that break quicker. Hey, I take the blame for everything on show. I take the blame for everything. Hey, that's my bad, cuz. I got to get my head around quicker. He done said that over my head. Hey, cuz, I got to get that. That's me. That's on choke. I take the blame for everything. Hey, that's my bad, cuz. I got to get my head around quicker. If he done said that over my head, hey, cuz, I got to get that.
Starting point is 01:34:28 That's me. That's on me. I said, oh, man. Antonio Mayhew said, my first football team was the Denver Broncos. You left for Baltimore, and I switched to the Jets. Thanks, Sean, for 20 years of suffering.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Bro, I don't know what to tell you, bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It ain't no 20 years of suffering. Hell, the Jets haven't won a championship since what, 69? So you got 50 years of suffering. Damn, there's 60 years of suffering.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Hell, 50 folks. Yeah, when did the Jets win the championship? 69? Super Bowl 3, right? Yeah, I think they won 69 Super Bowl 4 Green Bay won the first two they won 68 68 season 69 yeah
Starting point is 01:35:18 so nah you coming up you 50 plus 50 plus y'all ain't been back to the Super Bowl since, let alone 1-1. Lady Ray asked, Ocho, did you hear Shannon say last night about taking all his clothes off before going number
Starting point is 01:35:34 two? Ocho, did you ever pee in a bag on the sidelines like Shannon? We need to know if you did that too. No. Right behind the cooler. Right behind the cooler. you ain't got time to run all the way to the uh to the bathroom that you get two towels one one one one one on the east one on the west and you got the cooler blocking everything for the north and you just yeah we paid right there in the bag yeah see yeah right right there you see that lady i told y'all
Starting point is 01:36:03 that's everybody everybody do that that's not I told y'all. That's everybody. Everybody do that. That's not the egregious one? Oh, she's asking. I said last night, when I go to the bathroom and I go number two, I take off all my clothes. Yes, sir. All of them. All the clothes?
Starting point is 01:36:22 Well, that's like a little infant. Little infants do that. Little French fly do that. She go to the party. She say, girl, what you take off everything for? What you do? No, Uncle, you're supposed to... I mean, listen, you have your own type of way of using the bathroom,
Starting point is 01:36:37 but I'm just understanding the etiquette, the etiquette of... Maybe you want to be comfortable. Maybe you want to be comfortable. But I just know if one of the kids... Why they walking in front? First of all, don't nobody know where I'm going. I'm gone. I just...
Starting point is 01:36:51 Yeah, ain't nobody walking in on me. Okay, okay, okay. Everybody different. Whatever makes you comfortable. Everybody different. Everybody has a different approach to it. Man, I'm like... I'm wild.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I'm like a lion back there. I'm ready. Right, right, right. Right right right Nah I need I need my shorts and my ankles man I need my shorts and my ankles man Just in case you never know fire might break out I grab them and come and follow my ring But I'm a white first though
Starting point is 01:37:18 Listen the phone ring The phone ring you know you take that You got a bunny hop to the phone I ain't asking no phone I just call you bro i was in the bathroom ain't nobody asking no bathroom i don't answer the phone i don't answer the phone when i'm in the bathroom man why don't you just answer the phone god i ain't gonna talk to you on the phone i'm in the bathroom bro damn i caught what was what's important what was so important what you got
Starting point is 01:37:44 to tell me well the phone call i'm not missing that? What you had to tell me? I'm not missing that phone call. You never know who's calling. He or she will call back. When I was in high school, when I was in high school and you waiting on that one specific call from her, it just so
Starting point is 01:38:00 happened. It maybe happened once when I was an adolescent. Maybe once. And you got, I just remember bunny hopping, shorts, pants down at the ankle and trying to get to that phone because i know after three rings and hell she might not she might not and there's no way to call there's no way to call it back years i couldn't get to the bathroom anyway because i was in the woods and we have no phone out there So it was just out of gas. So I just learned, hey, you call it, my grandma said, hey, they'll call back.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. When you go to the woods, you can't put your ankle, you can't pull, well, I could. So I take off all my clothes, I put them in a pile in front of me and I go. So when I got to go to a bathroom, I did the same thing
Starting point is 01:38:46 Mm-hmm Yeah, oh the fact that you could go you can get get my mom get stark You know you boy my knee being heard somebody might come home. Yeah, that's a whole different ball game Oh Joe Oh, they call you boy. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Starting point is 01:39:17 Okay. Okay. Okay. because you don't don't nothing hey you don't nature ride but don't nothing deflate you like when somebody come home unexpected oh yeah I mean you you wide awake
Starting point is 01:39:30 the minute somebody hit that door that's the worst feeling out of there out of there yeah man hey bring
Starting point is 01:39:40 bring you right on down now bring you right on down what y'all doing nothing somebody walking out we ain't doing nothing ain't nobody ask you what you doing you doing something yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:39:53 you tell it on yourself ain't nothing like that Ocho what happened uh oh I'm sorry real I told Ocho to calm down. Hey, Real, I be telling him he be going to have all his clothes on. Hey, Real.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Ocho, you be too loud, Ocho. I be told you to calm down. I'm trying to laugh too, but I can't hear you. Oh, she was asleep. She was asleep. Oh, I'm sorry, Real. Yeah. Faith said, hey, Shannon, O was asleep. Oh, I'm sorry, Rhea. Yeah. Faith said,
Starting point is 01:40:26 Hey, Shannon Ocho, my brothers roast each other so viciously, I question their love for one another. If you and Ocho had a roast battle on Nightcap versus Coach Prime, who would win? FY, you got La'Ash roasting people now, too.
Starting point is 01:40:39 We blame you, Shannon. I would win. A roasting battle? That's me battle that's me that's me put a pole up put a pole up put a pole up
Starting point is 01:40:51 no you listen you ain't gonna out roast me if there was a roast battle we used to have roast battles on twitter a chat if you in the chat
Starting point is 01:40:59 I'm not sure how long you been following me me and the city of New Orleans the entire city of New Orleans that's on Twitter, we used to have roast battles back in the day. We used to be ribbing each other back in the day
Starting point is 01:41:11 for hours at a time. This is when social media, you know, the area wasn't as sensitive as it is now. Now you say the wrong thing, you get suspended. Those were some of the best times on Twitter. Me and Marlon Wayne used to go at it. Me and Kevin Hart used to go at it. Me and Marlon Wayne used to go at it. Me and Kevin Hart used to go at it. Me and Lil Duvall used to go at it.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Like if you can, you know how people pull up old tweets and know it's about, was this you based on something you said a long time ago? People, if you're in the chat, you can go back and look at some of the old tweets
Starting point is 01:41:38 from me and Kevin Hart, Lil Duvall, Marlon Wayne. Ojo, you can't, Ojo, you can't. Ojo, not with no roasting. Not no roasting, Ojo. Not no roasting. Not with, I'm talking about, y'all coming, when Wayans. Ocho, you can't Ocho, not with no roasting. Not no roasting, Ocho. Not no roasting. When it comes to Joni, I'm talking about just straight. Yeah, ribbon.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Ribbon, Joni, Rankin. Not with that, Ocho. Ocho, you rock running. Ocho, when you come in that rock running, I'm going to give you that. If you want to say saving money, Ocho, I'm going to give you that. But when it comes to Jon I'm going to give you that. If you want to say saving money, I'm going to give you that. But when it comes to Jonin. No.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Ain't nobody finna see me, Jonin. You're not going to beat me. Ain't nobody finna see me, Jonin. You're not going to beat me. Not no, Jonin. Listen. Hey, you throw out some tweets. They already know how I hit them.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Hey, I'll make them delete the tweets. Not what I do. I'll make them delete it. Jump on there if you want. Hey, OK. Fake Jeff becomes up on TV with a suit and tie. Hey, I tell him I got 1,000 jokes. I'm on tv with a suit and tie hey i tell him i got a thousand jokes i'm on number seven i'm on number seven hey i'm not i'm gonna say i'm the same way though i'm a
Starting point is 01:42:34 jokester i'm a i'm a cloud just look at my the the personality it's just well you know i mean you're damned to the same especially when we're playing. So you use the same way. So it's really, I don't know. It depends. To me, I think it's all on preference. Who would run a Rose Battle? I got them jokes now. Unk at 58%,
Starting point is 01:42:52 Prime at 24%, you in third place at 18%. You know what? It's because it's Ocho. It's Unk and Ocho. Who name you say it first? Which sound better? Unk and Ocho. It's Unk and Ocho. Who name you say it first? Which sound better, Unk and Ocho or Ocho and Unk? I mean, what come in the alphabet?
Starting point is 01:43:14 What come first? Oh, what are you? Oh, Unk come first. Nah, I'm talking about the first letter. What come first in the alphabet? Oh, what are you now rightfully so yeah i don't know what you do sound better though it do sound better that's why they that's why they picking you first but they know you're not funny
Starting point is 01:43:33 when it comes to ultra i went to an hbcu ultra i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a joanologist i'm the highest degree of joning what No, no, no, no, no. You went to HBCU. Boy, I'm from Dade County, man. I'm from Liberty City. You had to be able to tell Joe just to survive. I can tell Joe, but I'm talking about that Jonin. You had to tell.
Starting point is 01:43:55 You had the rank. You had the Jonin. You had to be able to keep people up off of you. Not with these. Not with Jonin. Not with Jonin, though, Joe. You might be being a lot of things, but when it comes to lip sparring,
Starting point is 01:44:07 I'm 500-0 when it comes to lip sparring. Nah, I'm telling you, man. You don't want to do that. Ocho, man, come on, man. They know that. Hey, come on. Hey, Chad, come on. We need to get this thing.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Get it up there for like 10,000 because they're going to say, man, Ava, like 2 2,500 people get it all up to the 10,000. Oh, it's not not what it's oh Joe now that Joni Oh Joe I'm a winner. I'm telling you I'm just tell you I'm too creative with it. I'm cool. I'm too creative. I'm too savvy with it I'm telling you I'm culture J safe. Uh,C. I used to be the roasting champ. There was a girl one time in high school that was trying to roast me. And I said, you got slim fast in your bag.
Starting point is 01:44:54 You ain't slim. For sure don't run fast. You got it, Unculture. So why you roasting? I try to stay away from roasting females. But I got it. Not ash. Ash don't count.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Ash don't count. Ash don't count. Ash don't count. Nope. Nope. She don't count. Hey, y'all. Hey, see what happens at Ocho. Back in the day, women would jump on Twitter, say foul stuff. I eat them up and then they're going to talk about, I can't believe you said that to a woman. I say, you done jumped your ass on my timeline, and now you're going to play victim? I wasn't even talking to you.
Starting point is 01:45:39 But I say, man, y'all need to stop this. You not fitting to jump on, and I wasn't talking to you. You jump on my timeline. I light your ass up. And they'll talk about, I can't believe your employers know you talk to women like this. I say, they didn't know one jumping on my timeline trying to get cute. The times we in right now, man, just't i don't even know what to say i mean it's it's
Starting point is 01:46:08 i hate using the word of sensitive error because obviously but it is it is it is like why are you bothering people it's like i'm minding my own if i'm minding my own business and i'm at i'm at let's just say i'm at a restaurant i'm minding my own business and Let's just say I'm at a restaurant. I'm minding my own business. And you come knock my food off the table. I snap your face and you say, man, why you snapping? Why you knock my food off the table? Food off the table.
Starting point is 01:46:35 I'm talking to somebody else. I was going back and forth with this guy. You jump in and now all of a sudden, everybody on Twitter, they laughing at you. Now you're talking about, oh, he talked to me. Man, y'all better get out my face man y'all if it's not for you people leave it alone hey if the shoe don't fit and then hey you know oh so i to roast. The way I look at it, if you grin, you in. So if you laugh, somebody say something to me, Ocho, if you laugh, I'm going to get them first.
Starting point is 01:47:11 If you grin, you in. I'm going to get them next. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. You're not going to just sit there and just think you'll get some laughs. Oh, yeah. Everybody get a...
Starting point is 01:47:21 Ocho, I was telling Gil the other night. You know Red Grant. The comedian? He played ball with me in Savannah State. Yeah, Red. He's small. What the hell did Red play?
Starting point is 01:47:36 Oh, he must have been a little dead then. Ask anybody that went to Savannah State from 86 to 89. Me, as far as Jon as joni now ray always told joe we used to have little talent shows we have you know defeating some girls we get up there saying this one chick she killed his uh janet jackson thing she i mean she counted down five four three two one had the chair turned back when she was dressed she was unbelievable right red
Starting point is 01:48:02 and this dude named bern. We call him Mack. Rest his soul. He passed. They used to be how we have talent shows. And they would tell jokes. We had Mack and this other dude named Bob. They would do wrestling. They would jump out the coke machine and everything.
Starting point is 01:48:18 I mean, it was great. But if you ask anybody on that football team or that was in Peacock Hall, when it came to Joni, it was me and a dude named Big Daddy. Call him Big Daddy, but he a pastor now, so I respect him and call him Pastor Paul. Right. When it came to Joni, I'm talking about just flat out, they couldn't see me. Ask it. Ask anybody that was in Denver.
Starting point is 01:48:41 From the time I was there, ask anybody in Baltimore. Ain't nobody seeing me with Joni. Nah, Ocho, not when it come to Joni. Oh, Ocho, Ocho, that's what I do! That's what I do! That's what we do. That's what we do.
Starting point is 01:48:58 You got to understand where I come from, you have to know how to do it just to survive. That's it. Just to survive. As a kid, just growing up in general, it's a part of the culture here, man. I'm not the city, baby.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I got to explain that to you. Joneson. I can't believe there are people in the chat that really think I'm going to lose, too. That's the funny part. You know what I'm saying? For me, they're like, man, who better? You or your brother? I'm going to lose too. That's the funny part. You know what I'm saying? For me, they're like, man, who better you or your brother? I just always can see it like,
Starting point is 01:49:32 hey, my brother is better than you. But you, when it comes to Joni? Mm-mm. Mm-mm. I got 60% of the votes. The chat don't know no better. Okay. Okay. What city
Starting point is 01:49:47 has the finest women on the planet? Yeah, you try to get Ochoa in trouble. I know she watching the show. I don't know about the... You know how you get out of this one? It's how you get out of this one.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Baby! Baby! What city got the finest women you think? She said D.C. You see how I finagled that real quick? So instead of me answering, you ask her the question and let her fuel the fire. So she said D.C. What you think?
Starting point is 01:50:26 Listen, first of all, we already know they're firing women everywhere. Yeah. One of the best kept secrets in America. And people don't talk about it that much. Yeah. Minnesota got some smokers. Minnesota got some smokers.
Starting point is 01:50:42 What? When Prince had those clubs, y'all better stop playing with me. I'm 1,000%. You sure? I'm 1,000% sure. I've been to Minnesota one time, twice. One to play the Minnesota Vikings and one year when the Super Bowl was
Starting point is 01:51:06 there and it was really cold. So I haven't been there for leisure or pleasure for that matter to even know. Houston got some. Hey. What about Houston, baby? Hey. Peace up.
Starting point is 01:51:24 How come you mentioned Atlanta? Now you know we got them. They go there. Yeah, so D.C., Houston, Atlanta, Minnesota? I still can't wrap my head around Minnesota. I wrapped up Bill Ryan in the way.
Starting point is 01:51:40 It all depends on what time of year you talking about that you tried to wrap around. You know what I'm saying I don't tell you to roll when you're right yes sir I'm here dealt with gambling issues for years that ruined my academic career trying to turn
Starting point is 01:51:56 the other corner but you know there's an addictive tendency in my family how do you support a disciplined lifestyle I know that about me. I got an addictive personality. I have to be careful in what I engaged in because I got an
Starting point is 01:52:12 addictive personality. I go 1,000%. You see how I am with work, Coach O? I was that same way with my football career. It was football 1,000%. I remember I went, I went back to Denver. This was Peyton was there.
Starting point is 01:52:29 And I remember talking to, uh, we call our athletic trainer, call him Greek. His name is Steve Antonopoulos. He said, uh, he said,
Starting point is 01:52:38 Sharpie called, they called me Sharpie. He said, Sharpie. He said, I thought you and Seven. That's what we call John, call him Seven. He said, but that 18 rival, y'all, when it comes to discipline
Starting point is 01:52:55 and work ethic when it comes to football. The mere fact that he put me in that same category as a Peyton Manning tells you that he was the Broncos. He's the Broncos athletic trainer for over 40 years. And so he saw a lot of players come and go. And the mere fact that he mentioned me with 18 and seven told you what I was a single man. See, Ocho, the thing is, when I try to tell people,
Starting point is 01:53:19 people think I'm just tooting my own horn. Go. I tell you what. Ask the guys in Denver. Hey, Ross Smith, I know you're watching this. Jump in this chat. I'm going to have some teammates in Vegas. It was football.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Nothing else mattered. You ain't talking to no phone. You ain't talking to no girl. We there to work. Hey, what you doing? What the heck you think you're doing? You're a professional football player. It's between the hours of 9 and 4.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Right. You in meetings. You practicing. You studying football. That's what the heck you think you're doing? You're a professional football player. It's between 9 and 4. You in meetings, you practicing, you studying football. That's what the heck you doing? Oh, don't let me come out and meet you on that phone. You know them guys raised to the phone because you know back then, Ocho, we had, I don't know if y'all, they got them, they still got them, but they had phones. And so
Starting point is 01:54:01 you know, you press 9, you dial out, you call anywhere in the city. Bro, you they have phones. And so, you know, you press 9, you dial out, you call anywhere in the city. Bro, you busting plays. Why you on the phone talking? You ain't talking to no offensive coordinator. You ain't talking to the quarterback. You're talking to somebody that can't help you get a job
Starting point is 01:54:17 or keep it. Hey, bro, that your mama? Nah, this... You talking to your mom? Okay. But no, you're not fit to talk to no girl. Bro, that's the problem. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:32 That's why we ain't winning no effing games. Because your mind's somewhere else. Somebody, hey, you think she waiting on you? Bro, first of all, you're not really starting like that. You're not like that. You ain't doing like that, huh?
Starting point is 01:54:46 You ain't doing like that. Bro, Ocho, I'm trying to win games. I want guys that can help me win games. You can't help me win games. I ain't got no time for you, Ocho. I said everything aside for wins. I ain't got no friends. Wins are my friends. You try to help
Starting point is 01:55:06 me win, I see the effort that you're putting in, in meetings, in practice, in the weight room. Okay. We can kick it. We can talk. All that other bull job, I ain't with it. I ain't with it. Ask anybody and people,
Starting point is 01:55:21 ask them in Denver. Ask them in Baltimore. I ain't got time. I wasn't as bad as I was because I'm a new guy in Baltimore. I'm trying to show the guys what it takes. Like I told, I was telling Ray earlier in his career,
Starting point is 01:55:39 I said, you have to understand. I said, at some point in time, you're going to be the veteran. And it's not going to be me and Goose and Rob Burnett and the other guys. It's going to be you. Right. You make sure what they see is that they talk about you when you're done. And they talk about you in a good way.
Starting point is 01:56:04 All that other stuff didn't matter to me. What you thought of me as a person, I treat everybody good, but I was about wins. Period. End of discussion. You know what? I'm going to tell you a story.
Starting point is 01:56:19 And me, I was on the we had a council, captain council. And, you know, things go wrong. Somebody was late for a meeting. Mike would ask us, what do we think you should do? And me and this dude, we great friends, man.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Al Wilson. But Al. Hey, Al. Yeah, yeah. Al was a thumper boy. But, but he had a problem. Late meetings, missed. Oh, Al.
Starting point is 01:56:50 So Mike calls us up. We sitting around the table. He asked us what they thought. Everybody, you know, Al, Al was, he was the best player on defense, him and Trevor Price. So we sitting around the table. Mike asked, everybody's scared. What you think we should do I said bench his ass
Starting point is 01:57:07 everybody looking at me I said why the hell is this time more important than mine I said I'm 13 14 years in the league I said all the Pro Bowls all the first team all pro all the Super Bowls I get my ass here why can't
Starting point is 01:57:24 he get here? So, obviously, when it was over, I came down and told him. I said, Al, I don't know what Mike's going to do. But I told him to bench your ass. Man, that's fucked up. I said, I don't care nothing about that. I said, but what I need you to understand, one day Shannon ain't going to be here.
Starting point is 01:57:43 And I'm not going to be the leader. You are. And then what? When you see them guys bulljabbing around and you're going to get mad because you're losing games, you're going to be mad. And when they show up late and they're not taking walkthroughs serious and they're not taking practice serious, you're going to get mad. And all they're going to say, Al, we saw you do it. Then what are you going to get mad. And all they're going to say, Al, we saw you do it. Then what are you going to say? Not what you're mad about.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Because they saw you do that. Just understand the reason why. You won't thank me now, but one day you will. Man, we went back. We had the 50 greatest Broncos. Man, I saw Al, man. He's a sharp. He's a big saw al man he's a sharp he's a big he called me big place a big play i appreciate that i said what you talking about he said man you remember that time man i stayed i kept coming up late and i was just jacking around he said i appreciate that
Starting point is 01:58:37 though yeah he said you was right he said man even being them man them jokers, once you left, man, he's like, sharp. I said, Al, I told you. I said, guys, watch the better guys and see how they conduct themselves because they're saying, I want to be good so I can bull jive like you. And then when you lose games and guys come in late to meeting and they're not taking walkthrough series and you wonder why guys are missing assignments in the game because they bull jive, you'll appreciate it. I said,
Starting point is 01:59:13 bro, you think I, you think I did that because I don't like you. I like winning more than I like, you know, that's what I value. Wait, they didn't bitch him for the entire game they bitched him for like a quarter
Starting point is 01:59:30 oh they just started yeah that was good wait a minute no he wasn't there yet what's the running back who was the running back it wasn't TD
Starting point is 01:59:43 okay Portis Mike Anderson was there What's the running back? Who was the running back? It wasn't TD. Okay, Portis. I thought... Mike Anderson was there? Mike Anderson, they moved Mike. When Portis, we drafted Portis. Mike, they moved Mike to fullback. Mike and Ruben Drones were the fullbacks. Did Travis...
Starting point is 01:59:57 No, Travis came after I left. Travis was gone. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just thinking about the uniform. He was gone after I left. I'm just thinking about... I mean, he came after I left. Remember Travis? He gone after I left I'm just thinking about I mean he came after I left he came after I left right
Starting point is 02:00:10 so Travis you probably played with Al yeah for sure Al played Al ended up hurting his neck but I think Al played like from 99 to 07 0 08. But Al hurt his neck.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Portis was another one. I used to say, man, Portis. I'm like, what? Portis was good. Do you know how many times I was in my hotel room and I watched Portis after room check leave and get in his car
Starting point is 02:00:45 and go home. And go home? I knew, I knew no matter how great he was and I remember having a conversation with Keith Byrne.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I said, Mike, going to get him up out of here. He said, Portis rushed for 1,500 yards his rookie year. 15 touchdowns 1599 is
Starting point is 02:01:08 second year 16 touchdown Mike traded him I ain't say nothing I watched out I'm in my hotel room cause I'm in the hotel I can see the whole park a lot
Starting point is 02:01:22 watch him every watch him every Saturday night we all yeah so nothing because I can see the whole park a lot watching him every Saturday night we all yeah but he showed it when it counted can't count on him though when it counted on that field
Starting point is 02:01:36 you couldn't count on him it was only going to get worse Clint Porter should have been a Hall of Famer. He's one of the three most talented football players I ever played with. And I played with Ray.
Starting point is 02:01:52 I played with Jonathan Ogden. I played with Rod Woodson. I played with guys like Gary Zimmerman, John Elway, Rod Woodson, TD. That boy was nice, man. People don't realize how good he was.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Man, he was nice. Man, he'd be out there, shoes untied. He's like, Sharp, let me tell you what I'm going to do. He said, I'm going to take the ball, and then they're going to get mad. He said, I'm going to run over here, and then I'm going to start. I'm going to come all the way back across field he do it
Starting point is 02:02:33 that boy was good especially on it what y'all call it stretch play that Peyton Manning used to run all the time y'all just call it just stretch right
Starting point is 02:02:41 hand off strong he will hold he'll hold it hold hold it, hold it, man, and cut that mouth, cut it back? Mm-mm. No, okay, Snitch. I never told Mike. That wasn't my place. All right?
Starting point is 02:02:56 That wasn't my place. Mike was going to find out. That wasn't my place to tell. That ain't what I did. I talked to him I talked to you he become he come to the game drunk tell my man I'm gonna tell Mike I can't play today I
Starting point is 02:03:12 said ain't my guy got shit Mike ain't got nothing to do with this you chose to go and get drunk get your ass in the cold tub get in the hot tub get that out go run do a rough for 200 get ready huh that's how good he was when your people take no that's how good he was pope was like that yeah lazy oh lord have mercy
Starting point is 02:03:34 ain't lift pope couldn't lift 100 pope couldn't lift 50 pounds on the bench, he had a bar. That's what he had. People don't realize how good Clinton Porter is. Man, Porter should have been in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Porter was nice, bro. He was nice in Denver. He was still nice
Starting point is 02:04:02 at the Reds. Oh my goodness, I almost said their name. He was nice at the Commanders, too. Porter almost said their name he was nice at the command portage didn't have 12 000 14 000 people don't like i can't i can't tell you but that's the guy that was in demo waiting how how like i said he wanted a three or four most talented people i ever played with he was lazy he was undisciplined yes he was special but what could he have been that's the thing what could he have been yeah man man uh guys we see your comments about super chats not working and we're posted as trying to get it figured out as do your job erin oh your job. How often do you drive your Hellcat? What sport car are you looking for getting next? And what's your favorite car of all time?
Starting point is 02:04:52 When I get back to Atlanta, I think I got 100 miles on it. I don't get back that much. I'm working. My favorite car of all time, I want an old school car. I want an old school car I want an old school I want like a a Cuda or a 70's Chevelle with a 454 LS6
Starting point is 02:05:15 70's Chevelle maybe a Cuda I like Cudas I like Dodge I like something 70s Dodge. They're old school. They're expensive. Kevin Hart got a
Starting point is 02:05:35 what do you call it? I think it's called Hellraiser. I think he got it from Speedcore. Made of carbon fiber. Man, that car bad I gotta save up I wanna get Hellraiser guys y'all can look up I think it's Speedcore
Starting point is 02:05:51 I think it's Hellraiser they got one called Hellraiser they got one called Tantrum but man K-Heart that thing sounds so bad who who are these cars named by I think it's Speed Corp. I think that's the, I think,
Starting point is 02:06:08 but you know, Kevin Hart is a big car collector. I went out to his place, me and Boss, his boy, you know, the plastic car, the plastic cup boys, they call themselves, Boss.
Starting point is 02:06:23 I hit him up. I said, man, you you know i'm thinking about getting the car he said man kev got that car he said let me put y'all in touch with each other so i hit him up i said man i'm looking at the car i want to come you know he said hey man come on out man i went out there it looked like yeah yeah yeah yeah that thing bad. Ocho is bad. But he got a bunch of, he got a bunch of, no, Kev got some cars. He got a 66 Plymouth Roadrunner, black, called Michael Myers. Oh, yeah, he got like the old school vent. I don't know if he got a split window.
Starting point is 02:07:00 But he got, oh, Kev got some heat. Oh. Hey, so he got Kev got some heat oh hey so he got like that J. Minnow Rick Ross type collection like that he got by 25 30 yes I ain't know that yes I ain't know that
Starting point is 02:07:17 he got some heat now he got you know he got the wife got the G wagon and he got like the Maybach truck and he got Ferrari and Lambos he got that but on the side wagon and he got like the maybach truck and he got ferrari and lambos he got that but on the side one of the sides over there right yeah man yeah i got some heat yeah now you know like uh jay little got cars uh what's uh uh seinfeld but seinfeld is my seinfeld got cars he made it like a corvette i think he's like a corvette guy uh uh ralph lauren he's a big i'm talking about like doos and birds i But he got
Starting point is 02:08:05 Porsche. He got like that 959 Porsche. He got the L40. He got stuff like that. Yeah, he got some heat too. Yeah, yeah. He got some heat. Oh, Rick Hendricks. The car? Oh, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 02:08:21 I'm talking about stuff. He got like the first Corvette that he had. Took his wife out on a date on. Rick Hendricks got that 5.2. I mean, I'm talking about stuff. He got like the first Corvette that he had, took his wife out on a date on. Rick Hendricks got that 5.2. I mean, I love old school cars. I love, you know, watching Barrett Jackson. I love watching Mecham. I love watching those car shows, man, but
Starting point is 02:08:37 man, I want to go. But the money, the money it costs. And the thing is, you can understand, Ocho joe the upkeep a lot of them i mean you could get a resto mod which is the old school but it's restored to modern so you got power windows and stuff like that so you can drive it those 70 cars though a lot of those cars you know they're 50 years old they're 60 years old you can't drive them every day you take them out for a sund Sunday drive and put them back in the car.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Yeah. A lot of times you look at it. That's stuff that you look at. Somebody looking at that 959. Yeah, that 959 is like that. But Jordan got one. But he's a big... If I could... The only car that I
Starting point is 02:09:24 had that I wish I had never gotten rid of, I had a 512 Testarossa, which is a Ferrari. It's the one that Michael Jordan got out of in the last dance, that black one. Like Magnum PI. Yeah, but I think Magnum had a 340. But this was a 512 Testarossa. That's the only car that I had, excuse me had that I wish I'd never gotten rid of. Other than that, I had...
Starting point is 02:09:52 Man, I wanted that car so bad. But here's the thing, Ocho. I should have never got that damn car. Because somehow I forgot that I just thought my brother was a first rounder. Number seven overall. I was seventh rounder. 192 overall. You see,
Starting point is 02:10:12 uh, yeah, they ain't averaging out, man. I'm going to get a Ferrari. You are what color, man? I want that red one.
Starting point is 02:10:20 You know, ever since Magnum PI, cause you know, Magnum PI, we saw Magnum PI driving around. Why? Um, yeah, but they probably had a.I. because, you know, Magnum P.I. We saw Magnum P.I. driving around. Why? Yeah. But they probably had a Ford engine.
Starting point is 02:10:28 They probably had an engine because you can't drive. You know, that's not a car that you drive every day, especially like he was driving around the city. But I said, for real? He's like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:38 I said, well, hell, I'm gonna get me a black one, too. So. True story. I'd never test drove the car. Man, man i saw it i didn't see the car that i actually got but it had one very similar i say man right man this car's small i say man i can't fit in this car it didn't have no radio it didn't have nothing i say man right man, I said, why am I going to get this? That's where the dude said, hey, Mr. Sharp,
Starting point is 02:11:08 this car, it ain't got no power steering, it ain't got no radio, but it come with 50 bitches off the lot. Let me get it. I got it. Let me have it, Ocho. I got it. I do like that. Sold.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Quarter of a bill. Now, mind you, O So, quarter of a bill. Now, mind you, Ocho, I paid a... Hey! That's a good one. I got it. That's a good one. Hey, my brother said,
Starting point is 02:11:36 man, I'm getting a Ferrari. I said, yeah, I got me a black one, too. So, we got magic Ferraris. Now, mind you, Ocho, I bought a car making $325. I car making $325,000. I was making $325,000. I got $325,000.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Right. I'm making $325,000. I just bought a house, $200,000 over budget, $600,000, and I got three kids. Well, you in the hole, boy. Well, you were in the hole, boy. Well, you were in the hole. My brother said, hey, I'm a frontier, but you know what you got to do.
Starting point is 02:12:13 First team all pro. That's what I went and did. Now give me my money. Huh? Hey. Come on now. That's all he had. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 02:12:24 You ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. I ain't got a first team all pro. Yeah. They ain't look back. They ain't look back. Oh, you're my best. I like that.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Hey, that's a good story. I like that. Hold on, hold on. What come with the Ferrari again? Hey, boy, that thing, hey. Ocho, what come with the Ferrari again? Hey, boy, that thing. Hey,
Starting point is 02:12:46 Ocho, that thing was in the first stall. Yeah. Now when I got that paper now, right. The first stall. No, the first stall.
Starting point is 02:12:54 I had a Bentley, a platinum Bentley. I had a Bentley way before I had a platinum Bentley. Number nine or 10. They only made 10 of them in the world. I had number nine. Hmm. It was in the first stall. The second stall was
Starting point is 02:13:09 that 512 Testarossa. And the third stall was a S600 Benz. Parked outside was a Range Rover. Parked outside next to it was the Denali.
Starting point is 02:13:26 So when they pull up, I had to, remember I had to tell you I had these justifications for higher education and they were lit up. So I pull up, all three of the garages go up. So you know when they get up, so I
Starting point is 02:13:41 didn't go to range, so we been like, he driving a Range Rover and he got dead. So you know when they get so I didn't go to race so we've been like He's driving a Range Rover and he got dead. So, you know, it ain't like it. Yeah Yeah, by yourself marble everywhere I got a thousand square foot of just model on the floor Come on talk to me that talk to me You better stop playing with him, Shay. I like that. I tell y'all Shay was hell when he was well. Come on now.
Starting point is 02:14:11 Y'all talk about bad Shay. Like my grandma used to tell me all the time. She said, boy, good times ain't gonna owe you nothing. I ain't gotta do nothing now. But I was hell. Hey, boy. You was hell when you was well. You think I wasn't what I was hell. Hey, boy! You was hell when you was well, huh?
Starting point is 02:14:27 You think I wasn't what I was? Hey, listen. I want to share my story real bad but you know, them days over, I can't, you know, I got, I got, I got, you know. He, he, he, he, he, he, he. What you said?
Starting point is 02:14:48 Nah, I ain't gonna do that, baby. I don't want to bring no bad news. I don't want no issue. I don't want no issue. That boy say he was like, listen. Yo, yeah, Ocho, back in the day, Ocho, back I said, I had that thing, you know,
Starting point is 02:15:02 I was single. I mean, you know, I, and then I ended up, and then, O said, I had that thing, you know, I was single. I mean, you know, I, yeah, then I ended up, and then Ocho, I ended up getting a role. So now I got a Bentley in the first stall,
Starting point is 02:15:11 a half a million. I got a two and a quarter of a million dollar car. I got a 200,000 rolls. I got a $150,000 Mercedes parked outside along with a range, along with a Denali parked down the hill. Man, I came home one day, I said, man, I don't need that. I ended up selling
Starting point is 02:15:32 the Mercedes back to the dealership. The Ferrari, I had the Ferrari from 93 until 2002. Had 3,000 miles on it. I had the Bentley from
Starting point is 02:15:55 1998 to 2011. I had 5,000 miles on it. I didn't. So you ain't even drive. I just. Just the aesthetics. I had the Rolls. I had the Rolls for like three months.
Starting point is 02:16:13 Like, man, I don't want no Rolls. Call my homeboy. I said, Jimbo, sell the Rolls. I said, hey, Jimbo, sell the Ferrari. Jimbo, sell the Benz. He say, he say, he say, you just got it. I had that Benz two weeks.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Ain't one of them. Downsized. Then I ended up that 760 BMW came out. That big boy. Rod Wilson used to have a big boy. Woody had a BMW dealership. That big boy. Rod Woodson used to have a Rod Woodson. Woody had a BMW dealership.
Starting point is 02:16:49 Right. If you got a black one, I want it. First, he said, well, I don't know if I'm gonna get one. So, the dealership in Atlanta,
Starting point is 02:17:03 they got, they got one. Asked that I want it. I would have looked at that car, stacked it up right there. 120. Let me get that.
Starting point is 02:17:17 I used to keep the thing. I'll do it. I'll do it. When I tell people, if you ever saw Shannon Sharp, without 10 bands on him, call the cops. Somebody just robbed him right around the corner. Call the cops, Ocho. Call them.
Starting point is 02:17:33 We can still catch him. It's not too late. Boy, you walk around like Escobar. Please. Hey, Ocho. Yeah. Ocho. Ocho. Yeah. Oh, Shay. Shay Sharp.
Starting point is 02:17:47 Yeah. Right, right. Well, I was from Strong Island. Man, hey. Yeah. Yeah, man. I got you. I got you.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, thank you. I knew I could count on you. Hey, Uncle Ocho, can't wait to meet y'all in Vegas. If you guys could time travel to any period, where would it be? Hell, I'm trying to go to the future. I ain't going back. Man, you know I be thinking about how bad black people got it now. You think I want to go back?
Starting point is 02:18:14 Hell no! I'm trying to go to Twitter 75. That's a great question, but for me, I would like to go back a little bit. I would like to go back a little bit to Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Sammy David Jr., You know how Blacks got, you know how
Starting point is 02:18:32 Blacks had it in the 60s? In the 50s? And you want to go back there? I mean, yeah, I know, I just named the era. I'm saying, the 50s and the 60s, you know how bad the Blacks had it. Why would I want to go back there? Yeah, I just, I just want to hear it music. I want to hear it on the era. The 50s and the 60s. Do you know how bad the Blacks had it? Why would I want to go back there? Yeah, I just...
Starting point is 02:18:46 I just want to hear the music. I want to hear it on the record. That's why I'm here. I'm a music connoisseur. You know what I would do to see Sammy David Jr. live or see Frank Sinatra live at Carnegie?
Starting point is 02:18:59 You Black. You know what I would do for something like that? How you going to see them at Carnegie? Yeah. You going to be so high up do you realize that black you you realize that okay that's that's fine that's fine i said i said
Starting point is 02:19:13 i said i said it knows me before i'm just saying the the just the the the the music the aura just being in in that setting in general i'm not worried about the the i understand what was going on during that time i'm just speaking from a different lens he could stand the same i mean he had to go in the back though nah i'm good like well you know you know frank now listen you know sinatra ain't performing if couldn't know black people come i'm gonna play that shit sinatra if it might if i can't have my people here, I'm not performing. He's one of the first to stand up for that. So,
Starting point is 02:19:49 please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. I don't know where we are, Ash. I know we got a couple thousand. We got, look, two weeks from Friday. I mean, excuse me, two weeks from Thursday, Ocho and I will be live in Las Vegas. Two weeks from Thursday, right?
Starting point is 02:20:11 Oh, today's Thursday, so two weeks from today. Damn. Man, y'all got me messed up. Y'all got me working so hard. Man, I'm tired up here. I'm like a one-legged man in the ass-kicking contest. Shit, I'm tired. Y'all working me.
Starting point is 02:20:27 Please make sure y'all hit that like button make sure you hit the subscribe button you guys you're doing unbelievable guys we're over 900 000 subs and a little under four months as a matter of fact february 8th will be four let's see uh so november december january february february 8th will be four months february the 8th will be four months in which we've had a YouTube channel. So that's our goal, is to get one million subs by February 8th. That's our goal. Guys, you've been so unbelievable
Starting point is 02:20:54 that words cannot describe. If I had a thousand tongues, I couldn't say thank you enough for what you've done for Ocho and I, and I greatly appreciate it. Not just me on Nightcap, but what you. Not just me on Nightcap, but what you've done for me on Club Shea Shea, the views.
Starting point is 02:21:10 I've been getting so much positive feedback having 21 Savage. Ocho, I sat down with 21 Savage last week, and in the beginning, he was like, man, I was thinking to myself, man, goddamn, this is about to be the shortest interview in the world.
Starting point is 02:21:25 If I can't get him to trust me any more than what he does, but you can see at about the 10-15 minute mark, you can see him relax. You can see him relax. He's like, okay. He coming here. He going to put me in a positive light. He ain't coming here to try to
Starting point is 02:21:41 do no gotcha. He ain't coming to do none of that. I can trust him. You could see the interview just like just go um guys like i said look we already know what cat did guys you've been so supportive it's almost at 55 million views uh country wayne uh got him to open up and share some stories it's doing unbelievable it's about to do 5 million views. Guys, you've just been so unbelievable to me. Shea Media just signed Bubba Dub today. Bubba Dub.
Starting point is 02:22:13 Bubba Dub. Got 520, which is Jeff Teague. So, man, you guys have been unbelievable. And I just want to thank you for all the support that you've given me and Ocho and Gil on the Wednesday edition with the basketball. Please make sure you all subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. We do have it in the club, Shea Shea, but Nightcap has its own podcast feed. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:22:38 We also pin Shea by Laporte at the top of the chat with the holiday, the Super Bowl, Valentine's Day. Go out and buy yourself one or someone that you love. As a matter of fact, go out and get both of you guys one and you would greatly appreciate it. You'll thank me later. Congratulations to Raheem Morris. He's now the new head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. Congrats to Jim Harbaugh.
Starting point is 02:23:00 He's now the head coach of the LA Chargers. Dave Canales is now the head coach of the Panthers. So Jared Mayo, Raheem Morris. Who else? Somebody else just got a job. Oh, A.P., Antonio Pierce. So in this hiring cycle, we've had three black head coaches, four minorities.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Dave Canales is a Mexican-American. So congratulations to all those guys and congratulations and thank you guys for watching us tonight. I'm your favorite. Yeah, I got something for y'all tonight. Let's see if y'all can get these. Yeah!
Starting point is 02:23:36 Yeah! Uh-huh! Can y'all guess these? I'm gonna let y'all see the back. Yeah! Uh-huh! Yeah, one hand Can y'all guess these? I'm going to let y'all see the back. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. One hand on you. One hand on you. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Hey, I got some better than those. You got a problem with what you call them? The old school. This right here. This phone back. Who is that? The area on re. It's the area.
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