Nightcap - Nightcap - Cowboys blow out Eagles, Chiefs lose to Bills, Zion's weight

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys beating Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday Night Football, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills upsetting Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Brock Purdy's growing MVP case, Zion Williamson's weight issues, Jada Pinkett-Smith's latest comments, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction01:36 - Cowboys beat Eagles12:45 - Bills beat Chiefs30:45 - Brock Purdy's MVP Push42:30 - Jets win, Zach Wilson balls out1:27:00- Zion's weight issues1:40:00 - Jada Pinkett-Smith speaks out1:45:00 - Much More Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, we got a packed show, so we're going to get right into it tonight. Yes, sir. The Cowboys beat the Eagles 33-13. Dak Prescott 24-39. 271, two touchdowns. The Cowboys have now scored 30- plus points in all seven home games eight straight when you go back to the final game last year it's the longest streak across the nfl since the broncos did it in 11 games spanning 2012 and 2013 season jaylen hertz was 18 to 27 197 davante smith

uh fun with the football third Third turnover for the Eagles tonight. One shot of matching their season high. Four against the Jets. Yeah. So what were some of your takeaways from tonight's game, Ojo? I mean, my takeaway, first of all, was Dak. Dak playing a very, very, very good ball game. Obviously, you said it already.

He was 24 for 39 for 271 yards. And I've always said this. We said that all the Cowboys hadn't beaten anybody. Obviously, they just beat a very, very good, well, what we thought was good, 10-2 Eagles team. Obviously, they dominated in all three phases of the game. But more importantly, the receivers showed up today. I think when it comes time to playoff football, we're going to need CeeDee Lamb, Brandon Cooks,

and Michael Gallup to do what they did tonight. Continue to make plays and make Dak's job easy to where he can facilitate and just do what he needs to do to make sure they win the game and not turn the ball over. Obviously, they took the – they took – Took one – got one off him. Yeah, they did get – I'm sorry.

They did get one off him, but they were able to overcome that because the Eagles obviously turned the ball over four times themselves. That goddamn Stephon Gilmore tonight. That damn Stephon Gilmore, man, played phenomenal football, man. That is how you play defensive back. He played really well. Before I get into my thing, okay, they come with the blitz. And this is what I say understanding and have football IQ. This is what I don't get with Devontae. He sees with the blitz. And this is what I say, understanding and have football IQ.

This is what I don't get with Devontae. He sees it's a blitz. So now, and Stephon Gilley is playing off. You run the shallow. Ocho, you know he's driving. As soon as you catch this ball, you stop and pivot up out of it. Why would he continue to run, Ocho, when he know the guy driving? You got to have spidey senses tingling.

Oh, he driving on this way. I'm back up out of there. And go the other way. Yes, Ocho! That's Ocho. Okay, I get it. That's a graduate level receiver move. But him being who he is,

a Heisman Trophy, a Blitnikoff Award winner, a top 10 pick, Ocho, you got to feel that. You got to sense. And you remember you and I was talking about it earlier. He is a Heisman Trophy, a Blitnikoff Award winner, a top 10 pick. Ocho, you got to feel that. You got to sense. And you remember you and I was talking about it earlier. From the defense, you know, okay, this is where the collision, based on the defense that I thought they were in,

this is where the collision is going to come from. So you have an understanding of what's going on. So I know on a blitz situation, I'm running, they call it, some people call it drive, some people call it shallow cross, but whatever you want to call it, drive, shallow cross.

I know Gilly has to drive to try to beat me to the point. So now all I'm going to do is catch the ball and spin up out of there. And I'm going back the other way. He might hit his head on the goalpost because remember, Ocho, they came with a blitz.

And it ain't nothing back there. Ain't nothing back there. Ain't nothing back there. It's mano y mano. But I think maybe he wasn't really thinking of that at that specific moment. He was more so concerned with securing the catch.

You know? And obviously, you want to make a play in that moment. But you have to have extreme confidence in not just securing the catch, but understanding and already having it pre-planned what you're going to do when that blitz is coming.

That already has to be in your head and ready to go. It's not like, oh, the ball's coming. Oh, shit, they blitzing. Okay, this is what I'm going to do. It already got to be in your head. When you line up at the line of scrimmage and you know blitz is coming based on down and distance or what they're you defensively that already has to be playing in your head so it's second nature when that ball comes out you're already ready to do it for the simple fact he's not impressed i know he has to come for distance because at the lineup he's already playing off because guess what he don't want me to run by him so now once i take off i already know he's driving over the top

because he's trying to prevent me from getting the first down going out the front side. So I'm already thinking at three steps, I say, if I get this ball, I'm coming back. I'm coming the other way. Come back underneath. Yeah. Yeah.

Automatically. Yeah. But the simple fact, the way the defense is being played, and I know I'm not going to beat him to the point because guess what I got to do, Ocho? I got to catch him, get the ball, and I got to do Ocho I got to catch to get the ball and I got to turn up so by the time I turn up here he come and guess what happened as soon as he turned up boom he's down and he's not a big receiver so he's not going to break a whole lot of tackles Ocho he's only above 65 so it ain ain't like, that's not DK. That's not AJ.

That's not a Julio or one of these big receivers, a T.O., that's going to run through tackles. In a situation like that, because it's Bang, he, but you got, that's what I'm thinking. And knowing the situation, knowing how the DB's playing, knowing the defense that they in, man, they in zero coverage. I'm stopping. Yeah.

Unless he, as soon as I catch it, Ocho, unless he bangs me as soon as I catch it, I'm wheeling up out of it. Get up out of there? I'm wheeling up out of it. That's tough. Ocho, you remember I've been saying this and I said, Ocho,

there's something going on with the Eagles. And I said, Ocho, we got to be careful because they're winning. We're glossing over some issues that they got. I said, that back end can be had. I said, what's happening is that, and what Dallas did a good job of tonight is that when

they got in the red zone, they cast it in. I said, but that back end, I said, eat the fillet. Oh, Sheldon, you don't. And see, that's the difference between what we do and fans. See, fans, all they you don't. And see, that's the difference between what we do and fans. See, fans, all they care about, Ocho, is wins and losses. Losses, right. I'm trying to explain to you why they're winning

or why they're losing and some pitfalls that might befall you if you're not careful. Now, I've been trying to warn you. We're going to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. I was the one that was worried from day one. And I told you, Ocho, I said, Ojo, I'm worried. But when I look at the Eagles, the mistake sometimes

people make is that, man, they were really good last year. Well, they're going to be really good this year. And the record, sometimes the record is not an indication of how well somebody's playing. Right, right. But if you can look at the Eagles, and honestly to be truthful to yourself, say this team is not identical, obviously, because they've lost some pieces, lost some coordinators, but they're not playing close to what they were.

I mean, they had a pretty good night running the football tonight, but that's not the same team. They're not. I mean, right now it's I got the 49ers here. I got the Cowboys here, and then you got the Eagles and the Lions, and then whoever else you want to put in there. But right now, 49ers are the cream of the crop. Yeah, most definitely. Listen, the 49ers look strong as hell. I'm looking at them, and I'm trying to find a weak link. Like you said, basically, the Eagles were 10-2, and you said they were winning winning and people look at the wins and losses but really not understanding and dissecting why they're winning and the holes

that you can see that the casual fan can't see. But the 49ers, man, we're not going to get off topic right now. God damn, they look good. They look really good. I think that... Go ahead, Ocho. I was going to say about the Eagles

is that they're back in. And it started to alarm me when I saw Sam Howell throw for almost 400. Okay. So I'm like, hold on. That Sam Howell threw for almost 400? Right. Against that front line and with that back end? Y'all got pro bowlers on the back end. How is that possible?

And then I see Dak throw for 374. And I see these guys throwing for a number of yards. I say, nah, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. And now, Ocho, they can't run the football with the same conviction. So they can't keep opposing teams

offense off the field. Off the field, right. I mean, for one, for the commanders, and I will like to say this, based on the receiving core that the commanders do have with Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, they're not no goddamn slouches.

They're not no slouches. So I understand, Sam, how being able to throw for so many yards, but again, the front line for the Eagles, when the front line for the Eagles does not dominate a game, you get the results that you got today. Listen, the Eagles defense the last few weeks have allowed 34 points,

42 points, and tonight, 33 points. Why? Why? Because that front line has to dominate. They got to dominate. They have to find a way to put pressure and make the quarterbacks that they're playing against uncomfortable. And they have to be able to do that. What did the offense give you tonight they gave you 13 they gave you 19 last week and they got a little they got a lot of that in mop-up time right so what do we see okay you can't generate pressure up front with your front four now your back end has already been compromised because I don't think they're very good in coverage and I

don't think they tackle very well and so now and plus your offense can't match the opposing team's offensive output. Boy, you in trouble, Ocho. Right. You in trouble. Unless you can force turnovers to take possessions away from the opposing team offense. Right.

It's going to be tough. Because Dallas, I mean, Dallas was really doing whatever they want to. But the key for the Dallas Cowboys is that number 87. That's how they did Ferguson. Now, I've been on his band. He had a game. I like the swag that he possessed. I like, he believed he that dude.

He believed it. Dak believes in it. I love it. He get up every time, let him know, yeah, I got it. And I'm going to get another one too. They're going to come back to me on third down

and you ain't going to be able to do nothing about it. He had a huge, he had a very big third down catch very big down catch when in that condensed split when he came back when he came back underneath and the db was right there draped on him but he made man that was that he nice he nice and that could that could also be the difference maker especially when it come playoff time yeah you want to keep on cd lamb and and gallop and brandon cooks I'm not saying they will

struggle, but I'm just saying if things aren't going their way, having that security blanket in Ferguson would be big for Dak. This is the Cowboys' fourth win by 20 or more points this season. Two more than any other team in the NFL. The Cowboys had four such wins under McCarthy

in their first three seasons combined. This year, they already have four, what I think, what, five games to go or four games to go? With four games to go. So congratulations to the Cowboys. I have a question. Go ahead.

Before you go on. Yes. I know you're giving Dak his flowers. Yes. But is Dak Prescott your MVP as of right now? No. Did you see? You say we're going to talk about it. You know what? We got to say No. Did you see? You say we're going to talk about it. You know what? We got to say

that. Did you see what Purdy did? Yeah. 368 on 19 completions. Yeah. He might have had more if Brandon Ayuk didn't get stripped from the back because Brandon Ayuk about to hit his head on the goal post. He got careless with the football. But I think right now...

It's hard for me to argue with you. It's hard for me to argue the fact after you just said Purdy. Okay. Hey, this is a horse race. They right here, Ocho. They coming down the backstretch. They coming down the backstretch.

Okay. The Bills beat the Chiefs 20-17. And everybody's going up in arms about Ocho. How the hell could Darius Toney line up a half a yard? You can't even see the ball from the sideline. He's so far over the ball.

And they mad at the official for calling it. But see, Ocho, and I told you this. I told you this earlier, Ocho, and you didn't want to agree with me. I said, there's a reason why the Giants got rid of a first-round pick 22 games into his career. Because you know why? Kadarius Toney is not going to get better because they keep making excuses. Instead of them saying he was wrong for lining up offside,

the official's supposed to warn him. He's supposed to tell us. Well, actually, now you do know that as a receiver, as a former receiver that played for a while, if I'm covering the ball just a tad bit and the official can't see it, if I don't check with him, the official will say,

hey, young fella, back up, back up, back up, back up a little bit. Okay, the side judge is going to tell you that. Tell you where you are. Tell the people at home where you are when he's telling you that. You're outside the numbers. He's not telling you that in that tight split that Kaderia and Tony had.

Yeah, I forgot. They were in a bunch. They were in a condensed split, the bunch split. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Hold on. But what do you do? You look to the official. Yeah, I always check. I always check. You're doing this. Hey, I'm okay. He's going to tell you. Back up a little bit, 85.

Or he's going to say, you good. But I have a question. I have a question. In that moment, though, in in that moment even as a referee with a call of that magnitude with the game on the line do you really want to make that call to decide again i'm just i'm just asking you baby i'm just asking i just want to know i just want to know i just want to know what you how you felt last year last year that call that play was called twice. Only twice.

In an entirety of an entire season. This year, it's been called 11 times. I'm assuming maybe they're paying attention to it more often now. But for it to come down

to that, when the Chiefs could have won the game, to use, to say, you know what, we're going to call it. To me,

it just, ugh. Ocho, you couldn't even see the ball. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you see the ball I can't even argue the fact though remember in the Super Bowl with Bradbury the fourth because they say you can't

make that call oh Joe he held him he even how would this have been if Bradbury would have said after the game they don't make the call he said yeah I held it what do you what what would have been? If Bradbury would have said after the game, they don't make the call. He said, yeah, I held it. What would have been said? The man told you he held it. But see, the problem with Kadarius Tony.

Now, how many times is he going to drop the ball? How many times is he going to fumble? How many times is he going to do these bonehead mistakes? And instead of trying, they're trying to blame the official. Not one person said Kadarius Tony was at fault because he lined his butt up upside. We blaming the officials. When he fumbled the ball, when he dropped passes, we make excuses for him. And he's never going to get better because you keep making it.

It's like a child. It's like a kid, Ocho. At some point in time, you know, the kid is bad. You blame the teacher or you blame the principal. You blame everybody except where the blame's supposed to be placed. Blame Kadarius Toney. He's a receiver. Yeah, he's a receiver.

In defense of him, for me, I like Kadarius Toney. He's made some mistakes. He drops some balls. But I understand in order for the Chiefs to get back to where they want to get to, we're going to need Kadarius Toney to show up and be the Darius Toney we used to see. Listen to me. Stay with me, baby. The flashes that we've seen from him when he was with the Giants, the flashes that we've seen

from him last year when he could be electric with the football, we need that consistently. MVS. We need MVS to step up. We need them to be able to help Patrick Mahomes be the Super Bowl two-time winning Super Bowl quarterback that we're used to seeing in order for them to get where they want to. And you talk about Lombardi and playoffs and all that, until they step up

and play to the caliber that they can be playing like, it's not going to happen. But I don't want to harp on Kadarius and blame him for the loss because in order for him to get to the motherfucking chip on what they trying to get to we need Kadarius Tony to be who he is from the K all the way

to the goddamn T hold on give me Ocho but you don't notice something now they scored 17 points yeah remember now the fact about it

they got 17 how much they got 19 how much did they get in a couple of weeks? You got it up here? Hold on. Okay. Today, they scored 17. In week 13, the loss to the Packers, they had 19.

Week 12, they scored 31 against the Raiders, but the Raiders scored zero points, and they lost the game 3-0 today. In week 11, they had 17 points. In week 9, they had 21 points, but they got shit out in the second half. In week 8, they had nine points. In week 9, they had 21 points, but they got shit out in the second half. In week 8, they had nine points. You see, Ocho, what's happening?

It's getting harder and harder for them to score points. The one thing that we can always count on, Patrick Mahomes at home, oh, you got to put up 28 to 30 to beat them. Yeah. And we keep saying, oh, we need these guys. But hold on, we did the same damn thing over. When are they going to show the consistency that you say they need to show when you haven't seen it all year? Yeah, I know.

We haven't seen it all year, but you know what it comes down to, right? You know what it comes down to. When it actually matters, when it actually matters and when it actually counts, you're going to have to make the plays. You're going to have to. I'm just saying what they got to do in order to get back and be in contention, especially when playoff time come,

the fellas are going to have to step up. Make the mistakes now. I'd rather Kadarius Toney make the motherfucker mistake right now and learn from it and then understand

and go back to the drawing board during the week and have that talk with motherfucker Mahomes. Like, man, listen, if we are going to play, if we're going to go into games and they're going to scheme in ways

to stop Travis Kelsey, you got to make the plays for me. Patrick Mahomes need to go to Guderian and say, I need to be able to trust you. I have to be able to count on you because when we go into this game, whatever game it may be, whoever you might play down the road, they're going to count

or lock in on Travis Kelsey. I need you to play for me. I need you to be there for me. But Ocho, you keep saying we're trying to get these mistakes out of the way. Hell, we're in week 13, Ocho. And he's still making the same bonehead mistakes. He's still doing the same thing,

dropping passes, fumbling the ball, and doing this. So when is that going to get out of the system? And see what you do. I can't So when is that going to get out of the system? And see what you do. I can't say when it's going to get out of the system, but this is a game of football. And you want to play to perfection as much as possible.

That's why you practice. You practice it week in and week out. And you get out there on Sundays with the results. You want it to go exactly how they draw it up, you know, as far as the game playing is concerned. But sometimes it don't go like that. Sometimes it don't. It's like when someone steals a car.

Yes, sir. And instead of we getting mad at the person that stole the car, we blame the police for chasing them. See, you did the same thing. You didn't blame Caterius Tony at first. You blamed the official and said, why you call that in that situation? I know. I was saying just because I don't want to leave the game in the official's hands.

I don't like that. He did that. That's your question. If he's not lined up off sides, how's the game in the official hand? He put the game in the official hand by his alignment. Right, right, right, right.

I said it was their fault now. I said it was their fault, man. I said it was their fault. But I'm just saying, I just wish it hadn't come down to the officials being the ones. He robbed us of the player of the year. He robbed us of that, Ocho. He took that away from us.

Imagine Travis Kelsey highlight tape when he goes into the Hall of Fame. That's number one. And he had a game-winning catch in the divisional round of the playoffs. The overtime catch. He had a game-winning catch in the divisional round of the playoffs. The overtime catch, he had some tremendous catches. The one that gets the charges in overtime,

game-winning catches, he goes 40, 50 yards for a touchdown. That would have been the play of Travis Kelsey's career, and he robbed us of that. He did that. Not the official. He did it. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy uh regarding andy reese comment referee carl chefferson said that if a coach or receiver looks for the look for alignment

advice official will give it to them but ultimately every time they are responsible for wherever they line up if you look to me, hey, am I good? Am I good? Yeah. You good, 84? Yes, sir. Okay, no, back up a little bit. Back up a little bit, 84.

Back up a little bit. Okay. If you look, because if I give you advice on you, I'm not supposed to be doing that. I'm supposed to remain mom. I ain't supposed to say nothing unless you ask.

Right. Okay? So we would give them some sort of warning if it was anywhere close. But in this particular, it's beyond a warning. And they have, hey, 84, be careful now. You're leaving a little quick now. Sit in there a little longer. Remember I told you, I hear, huh?

I ain't waiting till the tongue. Oh, Joe, I was gone. Oh, the tongue. Ocho, I was gone. Ocho, remember I told you I was gone. Yeah, I don't know. 84 slowed down a little bit. Right, right, right. Leave a look. Okay.

But, I mean, I don't know, Ocho. Because here's the thing. Kansas City has never played a playoff game outside of Arrowhead. Yeah. And Patrick Mahomes' career, never, ever played outside of Arrowhead. Every divisional game, every wild card game, every game has been played in their building. Yeah.

You think that would make a difference? I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think Josh Allen is 3-1 against Mahomes in the regular season, but when it matters most, which is the playoffs, I think Mahomes is undefeated against brother Josh Allen. But where has those games taken place

in the playoffs? At home. At Arrowhead. I have a question. Do you really think the 12th man really matters that much, especially in a game

of that magnitude, do you think? Why do you think they fight so hard to get it if it didn't matter? Right. Especially in football because the crowd knows

and I understand people going to silent count now. Silent count, right, right. But still, if I get two false starts and it depends on when I get them, I get my guy up

because all of a sudden that guy, the offensive lineman, is looking inside. He has to be looking just slightly inside to see the ball at the snap of his eye. I'm a defensive lineman. That's a Von Miller. That's a Miles Garrett.

That's a T.J. Watt. You know, they don't need but half a step. At all, yeah. Oh, yeah. They get a half a step, they're going to get skinny, and boom, you hit your quarterback in the hit your quarterback in the back yeah it definitely it definitely matters for them if this was the old

Kansas City offense I would agree with you also it wouldn't matter but now they really need it because here Ocho they struggling at home yeah they're struggling at home yeah you you said it you said it uh when we talked before that as great as Patrick Mahomes is unless the receivers play up the par he won't be able to overcome that he won't be able to overcome them playing subpar as this is what they're what they're doing right now yes you you're absolutely right because if you look at it early in the ballgame, he was completing passes. He pirouetted. He faked.

He pumped faking and threw it inside on Ocho. That's great for highlight. But you're not winning consistently having to do all of that. Right. You're not. You're not.

And it just becomes... And then all of a sudden, it puts more pressure on him because he feels he has to be perfect. He got to do more. He got to do more. He got to do more. He should be doing less and they should be doing more. Or they should do their part and let him do his part.

But because they're not doing their part, he's feeling that he got to do more. Yes. And that's the last thing. Quentin Hector donated $10. Ocho, simply put,

please hold these professional accountants instead of playing devil's advocate every time. Tony is not doing what he needs to do. He needs your honesty, not your empathy.

I was honest. I said he messed up. I said he lined up all... I did say that. I said it. We got you around to it. We got you around to it. We got you around to it. Yeah, you got me around to it.

The funny thing about it, you talk about I shouldn't empathize with him. Shit, I remember lining up offsides too. Same way, covering the goddamn ball. They called me a goddamn touchdown because of my black ass. Hey, I did the same. Oh, Joe.

I did the same. We played Minnesota. And the guy, this had to be 93. And so normally I lined up on the ball, lined up on the ball. I always lined up on the ball. And the receiver was lined up on the ball. I should have just left it alone. Right.

But I motioned him to come back and when I went to step forward, John snapped it. Mmm. They threw me like a little in route. I went 75 yards. They tackled me like the eighth.

They brought it back. Brought it back. Brought it back. They brought it back, Ocho. They brought it back. I know you were mad. I couldn't be mad at nobody but myself myself yeah

because all I had to do was stay my black ass still he was fine it wasn't like the play couldn't go off if I was if I was off the ball and he was on the ball

right right we was gonna run the same route regardless no matter what yeah but you know what that's how it is Ocho

Faith donated a hundred dollars Ocho damn is donated $100. Ocho. Damn. Is that Faith Evans? No, I don't know who this Faith is, but she got this vote for you. She said, Ocho,

you gave more heat for choosing dogs over people. This season, Kansas City has more drops than a group of geriatric sperm donors in fertility clinic. And you gave him grace? Why receivers that need heat too.

We're rooting for you, bro. Still, team dogs. Yeah. Hey, listen, listen. Kadarius Tony going to be all right, man. I've seen the flashes. Everybody in this chat that's watching, we've seen what Kadarius Tony can do.

I know once that confidence sets in, I know what you get. He made mistakes. He dropped balls. He had a bonehead play today, and we can say it cost his team his game. We know that. Who knows? We know that.

We don't know if Buffalo would have come down the field and scored or not, Ocho. But it definitely cost him the play. This was the play of the year. This was about to be the play thus far. Now, somebody else might come and do something, and have seven laterals and it goes for a touchdown and win the game but this was about thus far this was going to be the player of the year because i didn't see this coming nobody and normally at this stage of the game you're not even thinking like that ocho no no not at all not at all i'd have never thought man i would i'd have been too afraid

because man yes because just by look i throw it to somebody and they bobble it they drop it might go look at me might go look at me wanting to strangle me because he's saying you shouldn't have you shouldn't have threw it to it you know i you know you know what i do think i do think as much as everyone even tomorrow are going to be up in arms about the play, about the offsides. I think that receiving core is going to come through when it counts the most, and that's the playoffs. I look at the Chiefs remaining schedule. They got the Patriots. I'm counting that as a win, and I mean no disrespect by that. They have the Raiders after that. I'm counting that as a win as well. They have my Bengals. Well, if the Bengals are winning that, even with Jake Browning back there, they got the

Chargers. The Chargers, I'm not sure what's going on with them well they lost what you call them fractured his index finger Justin Herbert and so they had to go to Easton uh Easton stick Easton stick so that that's that's three wins out of the four as of before I just I just uh I just I just named they ain't be they ain't beating the bagel but they're probably going to be the Patriots they're probably going to be the Raots, they're probably going to beat the Raiders, and they're probably going to beat the Chargers. So, there we go. That's four games.

That's four games of consistency where the receivers themselves can build confidence, and I think they're going to be all right come playoff time where it really matters. Get all the goddamn, get all the motherfucking mistakes out right now while you can. Get them all out. Kadarius Tony, I know you're

going to see this. I know what you can do, boy. I know what you can do. Tighten up. Tighten up. And sometimes you voice that anger at the officials so you don't put him further in the tank than he already is.

Because he's feeling bad because you saw him. He put the coat on and he tried to hide. But the CBS cameras kept finding right on. No matter where he went, they kept. Hey, they kept finding wherever, wherever. It's just like anything. It's just like when you get a holding call or you you you drop you drop a plate. Yeah.

Camera's going to find you. You know, you know, you know, make it even worse, though, is when you when you when you get a penalty. Yeah. Camera's going to find you. You know what makes it even worse, though? When you get a penalty, right? Yeah. Excuse me. The worst thing that they do. Officer holding. Number. God damn, ref.

I don't need you to put me on blast like that. So it makes it even worse. So understanding how he feels in that manner, in that moment, and then thinking about, well, God damn, this is probably the play that would have won us the game. He already feeling bad, man. Feeling bad, bro. And I understand. I understand Patrick Mahomes' frustrations, obviously not leaving the game in the ref's hands,

even though Kadarius was offside. I know he was offside. I know he was. I know he covered the ball, but I'marius was offside. I know he was offside. I know he was. I know he covered the ball, but I'm just saying it sucks. It sucks. Mm-hmm. The 49ers beat the Seahawks,

beat division rival Seahawks. The 49ers won their fifth straight game. Brock Purdy, 368 yards on only 19 completions. Christian McCaffrey took the first play of the game, 72-yard run. He finished 145 yards on 16 attempts. Deebo Samuels, over 149 yards.

Brandon Ayuk had 120-plus. George Kittle had, I think he had three catches for like 60 yards. Deebo, Brandon Ayuk, and George Kittle each had a play for over 40 yards. DK Metcalf and Damodur Lenore were both ejected in the ball game. But the 49ers offensively, because Kyle Shanahan, he calls the game. And they put so much stress on you horizontally and vertically. So they'll go side to side and they don't have a problem because the guys

are so tremendous running for the catch. You look at, they're just trying to get the ball. And I love what Kyle did today. They threw a little quick route to Debo.

Debo ran it down. He thought he had a touchdown. They stopped him at the one yard line. They put him on a tight formation. Hand it to him. Now you go get that, bro.

You got, you got, hey, I ain't gonna let nobody get your, I ain't gonna let you to, you got to, hey, I ain't going to let nobody get your, I ain't going to let nobody get your honey. You go on and finish it off now. You don't, hey, you don't brought the flower with the chocolate and got a nice move. Hey, you got to seal the deal at the end of the night. Brandon and I, you 126 yards.

Kittle had a big catch. Debo was sensational. Christian McCaffrey is sensational. Offensive line did a great job of Purdy, and Purdy did a phenomenal job of throwing the football. He was sensational today, Ocho. He and Dak, I think, for the

quarterbacks, I mean, really, it's like when you really get down to it, it's kind of going to be like, I think it's going to be four guys. I think it's going to be Dak, Purdy, C-Mac, and Tyreek. C-Mac, okay, I liked it's going to be Dak, Purdy, C-Mac, and Tyreek. C-Mac. Okay, I like that.

I like the fact that we have Tyreek in the competition now, even though when you think about MVP, for some reason, it's always a quarterback. It's going to be a quarterback. Unless the quarterback runs for 2,500 yards or have an LT type where he scores 30 touchdowns. Right, right, right, right. Now, you know, because when LT had like 1,800 yards and 31 touchdowns.

31, yeah, I remember that season. Okay, yeah, now, but 1,500, 1,600 yards because these quarterbacks throw it for 4,500 and 40 touchdowns, 5,000. It's just because they've geared it. It's kind of like an NCAA, the Heisman. It just, they normally, now look, we've had outliers, Devontae Smith, just a couple of years ago.

But he had one of the great statistical receiving seasons in college history. But talk about the 49ers and what you like from them offensively and defensively. Listen, defensively, we know what you get. You know what you get with Fred Warner, Jadavious Ward, and defensively. Listen, defensively, we know what you get. You know what you get with Fred Warner, Jadavious Ward, and those boys. Even though Ward went out early with a groin injury.

Yeah, he went out with a groin injury, but I just want to talk about the goddamn offense. I've seen... Let me ask you a question before I talk about Purdy. I'm going to get to Purdy. What do you think, when we think about the greatest show on turf, that offense they had? Yeah.

Isaac Bruce, Torrey Holt, Kurt Warner. I was a hero, King. I was a hero, Ricky Pro. How do you compare that to the 49ers? Is there any type of comparison, even though it's a little different? Yeah. The way the offenses are run, even though the play styles of skill receivers are a little different, you know, the way the offenses are run, even though the play styles of skill receivers

are a little bit different? Well, Big Game was looking to take the top off it. He and Ozahir Akeem was great. You know, the middle, you know, throw the jailbreak screen because he was such a great punt returner, get the ball in his hands and space. Ricky Pro was that possession receiver. Marshall Falk could do a little bit of everything.

Everything. Kind of like Christian McCaffrey. Line him up out wide. Put him in the slot. Hand it to him. Pitch it to him. Throw it to him. And he could get you.

Yes. So they're very similar. You look at Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent. Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant. The last pick selected in the NFL draft. Right. Nobody kind of expected anything out of those guys. Both got their job because the starting quarterback got hurt.

Got hurt, yeah. And never looked back. But, yeah, the thing that they're doing is that the big play potential. Deebo is looking to hit his head on the goalpost every freaking time he touches the football. Whether you hand it to him or you throw it to him christian mccaffrey the same way he uh brandon iu is getting better and better better and kittle he can block like a lineman he can catch like a tight end he's

i mean catch like a wide receiver he's tremendous run after the catch offensive line does a great job and you already know if you run to the left left side behind Big Trent, you're getting some eight yards regardless. Every time. Every time. Goddamn, Purdy, man, has seven straight games, completing 70% or more of his passes. The funny thing about it, the last player to complete 70% or more of their passes in eight straight games was goddamn Joe Montana. Joe Montana. Joe Montana. And Montana. Joe Montana.

And I just want to play devil's advocate for a little bit. Do we still, if we take, there's 31 other teams. Yeah. If you take Purdy off of the 49ers with the supporting cast that he has, can he still put up the same type of production? I'm just asking the question. Somewhere else.

No, no, no, no, no. I don't think he can because I don't look at him as a guy that can perform outside of the system. Some guys can perform outside of the system. I think he's perfect because here's the thing which you have to

understand, Ocho, is that Kyle is look, I played for Kyle's dad. Kyle is a chip off his old block. He's not an easy guy to play for. And he coaches hard. A lot of quarterbacks don't get coached hard because, you know, you can't curse

and you can't chastise them in front of the group. Normally they go into the meeting and they meet one-on-one the coordinator or the head coach. But that's not how Kyle. Kyle will let you know. If you F up, he going to tell you because that's how Mike was. But I think you can't knock what he's doing because, yes, a lot of, I mean, Debo is putting the ball on the mud.

That one he threw to Debo, I don't know what Jamal Adams was doing. Bruh, why would you stop your feet and you 15 yards deep? Yeah. Why would you do that? What are you looking for? I think he might have thought, give me if I'm wrong, he might have thought he was going to the corner flat, like

rounding it off. Yeah. He just kept going to the corner. Yeah, he kept it high. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, he kept it high instead. But you know why he kept it high? Because your feet were planted in the cement. Mm-hmm. So guess what?

Guessing, guessing. Guessing. You're exactly right. He guessed wrong. But here's the thing. My coach, Les Steckle, he was my position coach in 93, he said, son, if you hesitate, you beat.

Every time. All it takes is a split second now. Oh, so you got to go somewhere in a hurry. If he who hesitates is beat in that sport. Now, baseball, look, I understand baseball, but I do understand this. If you hesitate in the game of football, you will get beat. Yeah.

Because you have to understand while you're hesitating, that guy's moving. Yeah. Yeah, you got to keep your feet alive. You got to stay alive. You got to keep your feet alive. You got to stay alive. But Purdy has been, look, since they got them dogs back, since Debo came back. Yeah, Trent came back.

Since Christian McCaffrey has been healthy, Big Trent, T-Dub has been back, they've gone to another level. And they can, at the drop of a hat, three, four possessions in a row, they got 28. 28, easy. So I'm looking at the remaining schedule, right? And I don't want to sit here and crown, you know what,

they're going to win the Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. I believe they'll be the number one seed. I know you're going with this because you look, I think they got Arizona, they got the, they got, I think they got Arizona. Cardinals, Ravens, Commanders, Rams. Yes. They could sweep that. I'm looking from.

They got the Ravens on Christmas. You know, Christmas on Monday. They got the Ravens on Christmas. That's going to be a good one. I'm looking at from a defensive perspective. Do the Ravens have the personnel to match up with what the 49ers do? It's going to be tough because I don't. Exactly.

That's the problem. Offensively, can they continue to put out the output? Can the Ravens continue to put out the output and match the 49ers score for score? They're going to have to. The thing, but my concern is, is that if you don't pressure Purdy, you can't beat the 49ers. Right.

You got to pressure him. You got to make him uncomfortable. You got to pressure him. You got to pressure him. Get him off the spot. Yeah. You got to. You got to pressure him. You got to make him uncomfortable. You got to pressure him. You got to pressure him. Get him off the spot. Yeah. You got to. You got to.

But Kyle does a great job of rolling him, half rolling him, booting him, misdirection that changes. They change, you know, the bunch formation and guys disperse and they go a lot of different directions. They'll give you the same look

from a different formation. And he constantly keeps you guessing. Right. Without the assistance of turnovers. You know, turnovers are the great equalizer same look from a different formation and they they he constantly keeps you guessing right without without the assistance of turnovers and you know turnovers are the great equalizer because if you're better than a team and you turn the ball over you go down to their level or you bring them up to your level whatever the case may be you make yourself equal to them i just don't see ocho uh with the without the assistance of maybe three turnovers in a game or your team, the opposing team

quarterback plays the game of his life, it's just hard for me to see a scenario, especially in the regular season of a team beating them. Now, I'm anxious to see that game that Monday night. That's going to tell us a lot, that Christmas game, the Ravens, because

the Ravens right now are in the catbird seat. They own their number one. They control their destiny. They can be the number one seed. I think they're going to have to win out in order to be the number one seed, the 49ers. But they're the only team that I don't care where they play. They can go back to Philly.

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up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's talk about D.K. D.K. and Dumbledore, Lenore, were both ejected late. D.K. picked up Fred Warner, slammed him to the turf after he had laddered the ball. He didn't know he laddered, though. He thought Fred still had the ball. Right.

Then Fred pushed D.K. from behind before the wide receiver jumps up, grabs Fred by his face mask, give him a little shove, like, bro, who you think you talking to? And then shoves him. And then Lenore get involved into the ensuing scuffle. Fred said he told DK,

you tackle really well before the altercation. For some reason, he didn't like that. I guess what happened, well, guess what happened, happened. It's unfortunate, but he got us to learn to keep his composure. And we've seen DK get a couple of these this season. Well, guess what happened? Happened. It's unfortunate, but he got to learn to keep his composure. Yeah. And we've seen DK get a couple of these this season.

I think this is his third or fourth one this season, unsportsmanlike conduct. Yeah. What's your takeaway? I mean, he's frustrated. Emotions getting the best of him. Not having the type of game you want to have, especially with what you just did against the Cowboys not too long ago. You weren't able to get off the same way. Team is losing.

You're frustrated. You're emotional. So I get it, but you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't hurt your team. Obviously, they need you out there on the field, especially Geno being out. Geno being out. So you got to be on the field to help your team and

at least do your best to will them to a win, even though the chance to beat the 49ers today, it was slim to none, but at least be on the field to contribute. Right. Zach Wilson had his best game of the season. Who? Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson.

Say it loud and proud. Jackson 30-6. Jets beat the Texans 30-6. Jets snap a five-game losing streak after a very sluggish start in which they had 11 consecutive points. The first scoreless half, first half, since 2019. But the Jets found the rhythm and scored 30 points in the second half, the most points they've scored in a game since scoring 31 against the Broncos in week five. Zach Wilson.

Zach Wilson. 27-36, 3-0-1, two touchdowns. CJ Stroud exited the ballgame late in the fourth quarter after taking a hit from Big Quinny, Quinny Williams. Yeah. Talk about what did you like from the Jets today? From the Jets today, I just want to say I'd like to thank the Jets offensive line.

I'd like to thank the Jets offensive line I like to thank the Jets offensive coordinator I'm not sure what his what his name is I apologize Nathaniel Hackett Nathaniel Hackett I love you Nathaniel Hackett I love you I'm not sure what plays you call today but that's the Zach Wilson I'm used to seeing that That's the Zach Wilson we can see. Hey, hey, stay with me, baby. That's the Zach Wilson we can see week in and week out with that type of play calling. Garrett Wilson, I love you. Alan Lazard, I love you.

Randall Cobb, that's what I'm talking about. This is what the Jets can be week in and week out. This is what we can do. And I'm saying we because I'm riding the Zach Wilson train since he left motherfucking BYU and I ain't getting the fuck off.

God damn, that shit felt good today because I was ready for this. So this is Zach Wilson, huh? That's Zach. Today is what you saw today? That's Zach Wilson. So let me get this right. The other Zach Wilson

we've been seeing, that's his representative. No, that's Zach Wilson where the play calling isn't up to par, where things aren't going well. You see what you do? You see what you did? When he plays well, it's Zach Wilson. When he doesn't play well, it's the play calling.

Now, which is it? Sometimes things don't go well. You didn't say sometimes. That's not what you said. That's not what you said. You didn't say sometimes. I'm telling you why Zach Wilson played well today, because the play calling was up to par.

So when he doesn't play well, the play calling is not up to par. So you're excusing. That's the reason. So in other words, you're excusing Zach Wilson's play, because there has to be someone else when he doesn't play well. Well, Zach Wilson is, Zach Wilson can't overcome bad play calling.

He can't overcome that. Can a good play caller overcome Zach Wilson? Again, you have a tendency to do it. I have a question. I have a question. Go ahead. I'm going to ask you a question. Yes.

Is Nathaniel Hackett known for being an elite play caller like an Eric Biennium or Andy Reid? No. Say it again. Is he? Is Zach Wilson known to be an elite quarterback? Is he Jordan Love? Is he CJ Stroud?

Is he Jordan Love? Is he CJ Stroud? Is he Jordan Love? Is he CJ Stroud? I just asked you a question. I want you to stay on topic. I asked you a question. How are you going to answer a question with a question? You never answered the first question. But what you do is that you blame everybody else. When your guy plays back home.

I didn't blame nobody. I didn't blame anybody. You just had to play taller. I just told you why the Jets looked the way they did and why my guy, Zach Wilson, was 27 for 36 for 301 and two TDs. That's what I just told you. All I said, but what you said is that you said, this is the Zach Wilson we can expect when we get to play calling.

So I'm saying, so when Zach Wilson played bad, it's Nathaniel Hackett's fault. When he played good, you just said it was Zach Wilson. You didn't's Nathaniel Hackett's fault. When he played good, you just said it was Zach Wilson. You didn't give Nathaniel Hackett no credit. You gave the credit to Zach Wilson. Because, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Who's on the field? Who's on the field?

Who's on the field? Who's on the field executing the plays that are called from Nathaniel Hackett? He was on the field when he was looking like what the elephant left on the showground, too. But you didn't mention that. Wait, hold on, hold on he was looking like what the elephant left on the showground too. But you didn't mention that. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. What the elephant left on the showground? You tell me what he ate

after eating all them peanuts and hate. What did he leave on the showground? Yeah, that's what he left. That's what Zach Wilson was playing like. Let's stay on the positive.

Let's stay on the positive. The Jets, the Jets and Zach Wilson played good fucking football and as a Jets fan, I'm a Jets fan. Actually, no, I'm a Zach Wilson fan. I'm happy for the young fella. And today's game is going to build him great confidence builder.

You said that when they played the Broncos. You said that when they beat Philly. Great confidence builder. You said that when they beat Philly. Who do Jets play next? Who do Jets play next? I'm just saying. Okay, who do Jets play next? Somebody Philly. Who did Jets play next? Who did Jets play next? Who did Jets play next? Somebody ask somebody, who did Jets play next?

Ash pull it up. Who did Jets play next? I'm telling you, it's going to carry over into next week, offensively. Well, it's something about having a game like this. Having a game like this, when everybody's been in your head, when they benched you last week,

for goddamn Trevor Simeon. They played the Dolphins. They played the Dolphins. Oh, shit. They played the Dolphins. In Miami. Yeah. For real? Why'd it change your tone? If Zach Wilson is what you said, who they played does not matter. Right.

Right. No, no, no. Don't say it right. No, no, no. I need you to have the bravado that you just had two minutes ago. I still got the bravado, but I'm from Liberty City. I think I got nothing to do with it. No, you ain't riding with Zach no more.

I'm a Dolphins fan, man. I'm a Dolphins fan. Listen, wait. Stay with me. Stay with me real quick, baby. Listen, let me finish. I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital right near Overtown at 308

on January 9th, 1968. So I am a Dolphins fan at heart. He should call it, okay, you a Dolphins fan. Right. But see, I didn't know, I didn't know the Jets was playing the Dolphins.

It does not matter. Zach Wilson finna have a game, though. He finna have a game. Okay. He finna have a game. Okay. He finna have a game. So with J-Ram and Damian Howard

I can counter that with Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb and Garrett Wilson the Alan Lazard thing was a healthy stretch that was three weeks ago you still on that? you still on the pass? you still on the pass? let's make a healthy bet

what? make a lot bet. Let's make a healthy bet. What? What do you want to bet? Make a lot of yourself. Make a lot of yourself. No. $100. You want $100. What do you got? So what's that?

I don't want to bet. I don't want to bet Dolphins Jets because I'm a Dolphins fan. I'm betting Zach. You took it right out of my mouth. Let's bet Zach numbers. Okay, go ahead and bet it.

Okay. What's the number? Let's bet Zach numbers. Okay, go ahead and bet it. Okay. What's the number? Let's bet he have another 300-yard game. Okay, bet. No, I bet. I bet you. Okay, well, we got a shake. Give me a virtual shake.

Yeah, $100. Zach can have another 300-yard game. Ocho, you got to stop. Ocho. What'd I do? Ocho, you got to stop that. I ain't'd I do? Ocho, you got to stop that. I ain't do nothing. You can't say when a guy plays good, it's him.

And when a guy plays bad, it's somebody else's fault. You can't do that. Okay, okay. All right. It was Zach Wilson's fault when he played bad. Okay. Is that better? No, we going to move on.

Because I think we just need to move on. Hey, Zach, I know you're going to see this. I know Zach probably watching and uh hey i know you're gonna see this zach i know zach probably watching zach i know you're watching baby i love you baby keep that shit up that's what i'm talking about baby let's go the ravens win a thriller in overtime 37 31 that was crazy wallace walks it off with a 76 yard punt return with just uh just over a minute to play in the fourth quarter hold Hold on. Lamar hit Zay Flowers for the go-ahead touchdown. The two-point conversion was good, but the Rams, led by Matthew

Stafford, drive down the field, get a game-tying field goal. Both teams have the ball at least once in the overtime. The Rams put the ball off and here's what Tylan Tylan Wallace takes it 76 yards. the Rams putting the ball off and here's what, uh, Tyler Taylor, Taylor,

Tyler, Tyler, Tyler Wallace takes 76 yards. Uh, Matthew Stafford and, and Lamar was going head to head. Lamar Jackson, 316 yards, three touchdowns,

70 yards, Russian, uh, Matthew Stafford, two 94, three touchdowns. I thought Lamar played extremely well. He left what he had, I think

that was Bateman. If he didn't underthrow that ball and let Witherspoon... Right. Get his hand on it. But I thought Lamar threw the ball exceptional today. I thought he was in complete command. He was decisive. He threw the ball with conviction,

and when it wasn't there, he took off. There was no indecision whatsoever with Lamar Jackson. He looked sensational today. OBJ is starting to look like the OBJ that we remember. 97 yards on four catches, highlighted by a 46-yard touchdown. Catch, roll into the end zone. What did you like from what you saw from the Ravens? Listen, not from the Ravens.

I like what I saw from Lamar Jackson because as Lamar Jackson goes, that Ravens offense and team is going to go. I like the fact that Lamar Jackson has become a pocket passer. I'm not running. I'm not looking to run

unless I have to. Lamar Jackson dropping back, processing, reading one, two, and three. Okay reading one, two, and three. Okay, one, two, and three is not there. Then I'll go and run. Then I'll take off. Zay Flowers, Odell, Bateman are doing everything they can.

Lively. Lively to get open and to be available for him at all times. Yes. The Ravens defense is so goddamn good so goddamn good today obviously playing a juggernaut of an offense with Cooper Cup Stafford hookah Nakua that can move the ball up and down Williams running the football type actually yeah running the ball they and they started off the game the Rams thought off the game goddamn running the ball. They started off the game. The Rams started off the game, goddamn, running the ball and gashing it. But is that going to be able to happen consistently over and over? You fix the issues with that, but that offense, as fucking Lamar Jackson goes, they

go. Obviously, when you think about the Ravens, obviously their identity most of the time or throughout the years has always been the defense. Obviously, having someone as dynamic as Lamar Jackson, some would say offensively it would be them. But with Lamar playing like he played today, with them right now being the number one seed in the AFC, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yes. No, Lamar them the number one seed.

That's what I said, number one seed in the AFC. Yeah, number one seed in the AFC, yes. Man, listen, as much as it pains me to say this, they can go far. Oh, yeah. They can go far. Yes. Yes. Odell, four catches, 97 yards, 46-yard touchdown against his former team.

He showed them some love at the beginning of the game, dapped everybody up. I'm sure it was great to see him. And competing against those guys because he did win a Super Bowl. I thought he was on his way to having an unbelievable day had he not suffered that injury. Missed all of last year, but

now it's taken him a while, but the last three weeks, he's shown you that he's back to be at Odell, and they're giving him opportunities. It's never a good thing, but I think the Mark Andrews it forced Lamar to have belief in other players because you know he always had Mark Andrews in his back pocket

I could always go to 89 I could always find 89 but now he has to rely on Lively he has to rely on Bateman he has to rely on Zay Flowers he has to rely on Odell and it's forced him and he's spreading the ball around and he has to rely on Lively. He has to rely on Bateman. He has to rely on Zay Flowers. He has to rely on Odell. And it's forced him. And he's spreading the ball around.

And he has the utmost confidence without his security blanket. So I ain't got no choice. I'm going to find me a new security blanket. So the first one of y'all get open, y'all my security, y'all my new security blanket. And the funny thing about it, with Mark Andrews not being out and everyone actually being able to be not, not, what's the word I'm looking for? Not only are they making themselves available, they're making the plays.

They're making the plays. The goddamn Ravens are scoring 30 points or more a game the past six or seven games. 30 points. Yeah. Through the air. Yeah. Through the air. Yeah. As long as the only thing, Ocho, is just take care of the football. Yeah.

Just take care of the football. Turnovers will hurt you. Turnovers will hurt you every time. Congratulations to the Ravens. Lamar Jackson said, don't count me out for that MVP just yet either. Nah, I might have something to say about that. Looking at, I think the Cowboys,

they got the Dolphins and the Bills on their schedule. And I think Purdy... We even got the 49ers coming up too now. Yeah. Yeah. But Arizona and, you know, I don't know about them.

Arizona messed up the Cowboys out of the blue. I call them trap games. Yeah. Trap games. You have a game like that. Look at the goddamn Bears. The Bears beat the Lions today. The Lions been playing goddamn great football all season long.

And it's a division game. And it's a division. The Lions and Bears are a division opponent. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It's just one of those things you just never know. Yep. Joe Flacco leads Cleveland those things you just never know. Yep.

Joe Flacco leads Cleveland over Jacksonville 31-27. Joe Flacco helped the Browns stand the AFC playoff mix with an 8-5 record. He threw for 311 yards, 26 of 45, three touchdowns, one interception. He's the fourth quarterback to start a game for the Browns this year. Deshaun started one, P.J. Walker,

DTR, Dorian Thompson, Robinson.J. Walker, DTR, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, but, and, after the game, Kevin Stefanski named Joe Flacco the starter for the rest of the season.

What did you like? The one thing, look, he ain't mobile. He ain't ever gonna be mobile. Straight pocket pass. The Statue of Liberty has moved more than Joe Flacco.

But I tell you what, he got a big arm. He can throw the ball through the eye of a hurricane. And there's not an area on the field that he can't reach. And he got great route runner in Mari Cooper and Joku. Played really well today. They can run the ball with Ford and Kareem Hunt. Offensive line is solid.

They might be in the mix. We know that defense. We know that defense can get after your quarterback, and they can pick you off. So what would you like from the Browns today? The fact, forget the Browns. The Browns defense is going to be what they do. But goddamn Flacco obviously won his 100th career game today

at 38 years old coming off the street. His couch. Coming off the couch. Coming off the couch at 38 years old. Super Bowl winning quarterback, might I add, 26-45, like you said, 311 yards. That means if you can do that off the couch and win a game like he did today, shit. The goddamn, are they in contention? The Browns in contention?

They're definitely, they'll smack down in the playoff contention after a little bit. They'll be a wild card, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're in a division with the Ravens. They're two games behind the Ravens. So that's a team that, when I think about it, that's a team that you wouldn't want to play. You wouldn't want to play a team like the goddamn Browns

going into the playoffs if you get them as a wild card with a quarterback that knows how to win in the postseason. Oh, yeah. Postseason Joe is different now. Postseason Joe Flacco is different now. He's different. Exactly. That man, he's

gone on the road and beat Peyton Manning. He's gone on the road and beat Joe Flacco. He's gone on the road with a... Hey, in the regular season, he's so-so. But in the postseason, Joe Flacco will bust your head.

And then he has a supporting cast around him to get the job done. Ocho, we got 32,000 in the chat watching us live right now, bro. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

32,000 people? 32,000. We tried to get the fall. We tried to get the fall and then 50. Hey, that's a lot of people, man. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people

because we get them good content. Oh, man, listen. We ain't even got to the good content yet., man. Listen, we ain't even got to the good content yet. We just talking football. We ain't even get to the good content yet. The story's coming. Oh, the stuff, man. Man, they talk about Ocho be talking about he slaying dragon to get a queen.

I said, well, Ocho did that? They said, yeah, man. Please make sure you click that subscribe button and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. We want to hear what you think. What are we doing good? What can we get better at? please make sure you click that subscribe button and leave us a review on Apple podcast. We want to hear what you think. What are we doing? Good.

What can we get better at? What would you like for us to do away with? Obviously it's easier for us to do a pan around the league on a Sunday because there's so many games. Yeah. But once we get the Monday, once we get the Thursday, we try to stay updated. We don't really try to go back. That's why we try to get all the games that we want to Monday, once we get to Thursday, we try to stay updated. We don't really try to go back.

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Colleague. The Broncos beat the Chargers. The Broncos are now 7-6. One game behind the Chiefs for first place in the AFC West. The Broncos defense piled up six sacks, added two takeaways, and did not allow third down conversion on 12 tries. Cortland Sutton continued his career best season with a one-handed 46-yard touchdown catch from Russell Wilson

in the third quarter and essentially put the game away. Sutton has, Ocho, check this out. Corlin Sutton has 10 touchdown catches this season, which is the most by Bronco receivers since Bebe, Demarius Thomas, rest his soul, DT, called 11 in 2014. Russ finished 21 of 33, 224, two touchdowns and one interception. Justin Herbert, as I mentioned at the top, fractured his index finger in the second quarter, did

not return. Russell Wilson is him. Am I allowed to say that? Am I allowed to say that? Obviously we were condemning, people were jumping on him, people were like, you need to put away the Bible and get out there and play some football and execute the offense.

You know, the marriage between him and god damn, why am I forgetting the head coach's name? Sean Payton, you know the marriage between him and god damn why am i forgetting the head coach sean payton you know it won't go right now yeah yeah yeah yeah you know it seemed like it wasn't working it wasn't gelling but listen they was they was in the dating phase and they went on the honeymoon and now you're seeing the marriage blossom. Yeah. Between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson. And things are going exactly where they want to go.

It's not how you start. It's how you finish. And the way they look offensively. Yeah, communication is key. And the way they look offensively, Sutton playing good football. Jerry Judy is doing what he needs to do. No, he not.

Ocho, stop that, Ocho. Listen, Jerry Judy. Ocho, stop that. Ocho, stop that. Come on now. What are Jerry, Jerry, Judy. Ocho, stop that. Ocho, stop that. Come on now. What are you going to talk about, man? Ocho, come on. What you got?

What you got? You got something against Judy or something? I ain't got nothing against. No, I'm never going to. What Judy did wrong today? What Judy did wrong today? He had some drops. He had some drops.

He had drops. Come on, Ocho. He had a touchdown, and he didn't drag his feet. All he got to do is drag his feet, and he got one in and stepped out of bounds. What? You think he, maybe he didn't drag his feet. All he got to do is drag his feet and he got one in and stepped out of bounds. What? You think he, maybe he didn't know, you know, he didn't understand spatial awareness based on... He's the wide receiver.

You've got to know where you are on the field, Ocho. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Have I ever played wide receiver in an NFL game? Yes. Have I ever called a touchdown in a wide receiver in an NFL game? Yes. Have you ever called a touchdown? Why are we receiving the NFL game? Yes. Hey, have you ever called a touchdown and you weren't able to get both feet in?

Ocho. Yes. Yes, yes. Ocho, if you see the play. It happened. Ocho, if you saw the play, you would have said, yeah, Judy, you got to get that one in.

If you saw the play. If you saw the play. One thing I know about receivers, they want them touchdowns. They want them touchdowns. He definitely... You can't make that mistake, Ocho. That's why I receive a one-on-one.

Okay. That's why I receive a one-on-one. And he dropped a rough three-and-one on the sideline, but Ocho... You got to keep your eyes on the ball. He's a body catcher, Ocho. If the ball really is not in his body... Judy got hands keep your eyes on the ball. He's a body catcher, Ocho. You got to keep... If the ball really not in his body... Judy got hands now.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Judy got hands now. He don't trust him. And if he don't trust him, why should I? They're your hands. If you catching everything in your body,

if you say you got good hands and you got to catch every... Listen, catching with your body is situational based on where you are on the field. You're in the middle of the field, sometimes you want to secure the catch with your body.

Anything in the open, you know, you got comebacks, you got sometimes... Ocho, sometimes you just got a high point in the ball, Ocho. You can't always... Ocho, you can't always jump up and do this. You can't always jump up and do that, Ocho. Sometimes you got to do this. That's why I said it's situational.

You don't want to get yourself killed now. But here's the thing, Ocho. When I say a guy's body catcher is that he's most comfortable catching the ball in his body. Everybody, look, everybody from Jerry Rice to Chris Carter to Larry Fitzgerald, even the guys that we think, Brandon Lowe, even the guys that we think have great hands have caught the ball in their body. But they're comfortable catching the ball in their body. Right.

But they're comfortable catching the ball out here, out here, out here like this. You know what's funny? When I think about it, I'm glad you said that. You know, in the NFL, and I'm not sure the casual fan would say this, sometimes the casual fan would say, oh, man, that's an easy catch. But, you know, there are some people that are just natural pass catchers. Like, it's a beauty. Like, think about point guards. There are a lot of point guards in the NBA, right? But something about seeing Kyrie Irving play the point and dribble and have the skill he has. He's honed that skill to where he's so much better and different than everybody else when it comes to dribbling and coming off the dribble.

You know what I'm trying to say. You know what I'm getting at. And there's some people like Larry Fitzgerald, DeAndre Hopkins, those are what I call natural, God-given pass catchers. Yeah. Just naturally God-given pass catchers. Right. One more person,

I just left somebody out that has crazy hands. I always tell guys, hell, if you don't trust me, you don't trust your hands, you think I should? Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, that was yours. The object is to catch the ball,

whether it's your body, whether it's your body, whether it's your hands. And sometimes some people are a little bit more comfortable in relying on catching with the body because it puts you in a more comfortable state

when you know you got bodies around you trying to knock your head off. The thing is, when you catch with your hands, catching with your hands, you're really catching with your eyes because your eyes have to track the ball. So when you go up and do this, you got to, you got to, because I see

a lot of people trying to catch the ball. Bro, you got to throw your head back. You got to see the ball. How the hell you catching like this and you looking like, you looking at me. You think I want to throw the ball in your hands right there? You got to take your head back. And I don't see enough guys. I mean, you know, it's easy because, you know, you get, oh,

you know, you just cradle over and catch it. Nah, bro. I mean, like I said, Ocho, like on a fourth down or a big third down, yeah, I'm trying to bite in that thing. But early on, I'm trying to get up out of dodge. Trying to be pretty with it, huh? Hey, I'm trying to get up out of dodge. I'm trying to hear up out of Dodge. Trying to be pretty with it, huh? Hey, I'm trying to get up out of Dodge. I'm trying to hear and go.

Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, he just, I mean, it's just, I mean, the thing, that touchdown, but, Ocho, you know when you settle for field goals, that gets you beat. Yeah. I mean, and you're dealing with a team like the Chargers, and granted, they're already on their backup quarterback. I want to deal them a death blow. I want to deal them a death blow.

I want to deal them a death blow. I want to like, oh, no, 21-0, it's over for y'all. Go home. Get ready for next year. Yep, pass the sticks. Yep, yep, y'all done. But congratulations on the Broncos winning. Hey, you know.

I see you, Russell Wilson. God is good. Bronco country. That's what we do. Bronco country. Let's ride. Don't do that. No, we don. God is good. Bronco Country. That's what we do. Bronco Country. Let's ride. Don't do that. No, we don't put that ride. It's debate. That's what he said. Ain't nobody ride.

Russell Wilson said, Bronco Country, let's ride. That was last year. You ain't heard him mention it at all. You ain't heard him mention it at all. Nobody want to hear no let's ride. He need to bring it back. Bronco Country, let's ride. Jesus got the wheel. Check this.

He about to drive that thing off in the ditch. Check this out. Last week, Jamal Adams attacks a reporter's wife and then double downs. Last week, Jamal Adams was beaten for what was essential, a game-winning touchdown by Jake Ferguson and the Seattle loss to the Cowboys. Jets beat reporter Connor Hughes who covered the team since Adams was still with them, tweeted, yikes, on the

touchdown. He never mentioned Jamal by name, but it's pretty clear the yikes who it's for. Nothing more, nothing less. That prompted Jamal Adams to post a picture of his own with yikes in response and go after Hughes' appearance of his wife. Adams doubled down talking to the media.

It's always the athlete that crossed the line when he responds. But at the end of the day, the disrespect is disrespect, however you want to take it. So I responded. I knew when he did, when I hit that tweet, it wasn't, I wasn't in it to win it. At the end of the day, I was going to get him to understand, leave

me the hell alone. When others go low, I go lower. That'd be the old show, you know what I mean? When they go low, I go to the basement. And if you join me in the basement, I go to hell. I have a question. Yes. The Beat Reporter. Who is the Beat Reporter for?

For the Jets.? For the Jets. He covered the Jets when Jamal Adams was at the Jets. Okay. So why are you posting anything that has to do with the Seahawks in the first place and then putting Yikes behind it?

Why? Why? Why even go there? Why go out your way to purposely antagonize someone that doesn't even play for your organization instead of focusing on our team i'm saying our team because i'm zach wilson bitch zach wilson fan why do that so of course purposely trying to antagonize him and say yikes because he got beat

on a touchdown yeah they won the game on right So he fired back in his own manner. You can't disrespect me and tell me how the disrespect should be taken. So I can react how I want to react. And no, when you ask that question, no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. So before you even say it. So somebody tweeting, yikes, that you got beat for a touchdown is disrespectful. Why are you even, you already know what he trying to do now. Come on now.

Don't play, Unc. Don't play. I'm just saying. You know he digging at the do now. Come on now. Don't play, Unc. Don't play. I did not just say that. You know he digging at the man now. You know he digging at him. He taking a dig at him. It's low. It's low.

Why are you doing that as a Jets beat reporter? You shouldn't be focused on nothing the Seahawks are doing or somebody that used to play for your organization. You don't need to. But Jamal Adams getting beat for a touchdown, why is that surprising when he's not known as a cover safety? I don't know why it's surprising. So why, you know he's not a cover safety.

He's an in-the-box. That's not a cover safety. That's a strong safety. Right, right. Right, I know. I'm just saying. I look at, would you say Aaron Reid is a cover safety? Oh, yeah.

Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. And he can play in the box. That's the crazy part about it. Or I look at a Kevin Bayard. He's a guy. Or Justin Simmons. Those are guys.

Or Minka Fitzpatrick. Those are guys that I look at as cover safety. Right. I look at him as a box safety. He's tremendous against the run. He's going to blitz. You seen him on a blitz to knock the opposing quarterback.

I don't want him in coverage. I don't want him no more. I don't want him more than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. I don't want him down the field. That's not what he's good at. I don't want him on any tight end. None.

Because that's not his expertise. That's like me. That's like me. You asking me to hold up against a michael strahan or bruce smith or reggie white and then when i get beat i'm like yeah what you expect to happen you ask me yes yeah yeah i mean but well again um why are you even going out your way why are you even going out your way because you know you even going out your way? Because you know what you're doing.

You know what you're doing. Now, do I condone do I condone the disrespect of someone's person? No, I don't. But you can't tell someone how to react when you start first.

When you started first purposely, you can't tell someone how to react. Guess what the 49ers did on social media? When he got beat by Debo? Yikes. Yeah, because he put it out there. He started it. Of course. Of course he won't use it. So now it's a running joke. Of course.

You opened Pandora's box. To this day, they say Shannon couldn't block Just imagine As many times as somebody says Shannon couldn't block If I went around And saw people's wives

Or girlfriends Or significant others Ocho I hear what you're saying If you can't take it Don't dish it You know what you was doing As a beat reporter

Putting yikes behind something By a player that isn't even If you can't take it, don't dish it. You know what you was doing as a beat reporter, putting yikes behind something by a player that isn't even with your organization anymore. You taking a dig at him using yikes. This all Jamal Adams had to say. Those that can, do. Those that can't, write or teach about it. Why are you telling him how to,

how you tell him how to respond to the disrespect? You can't do that.. Why are you telling him how to, how are you telling him how to respond to the disrespect? You can't do that. That's how you come back because now it looks, now they're like, oh, you salty. Now for the rest of, guess what? Every time he get beat,

guess what for the rest of his life? So he gonna go around insulting the 49ers social media or the 49ers. So you know what, you open it up. You know what you open up, Ocho. Yeah, that's the way the world work. That's the way the world work.

But I'm just saying, in this world, in this world we live in, you can disrespect someone and then tell them how to react to the disrespect. True. You can't. True. Which is why I don't say anything bad about anybody

in general. I know, and that's a problem. But anyway, we'll get to... It's not a problem. I'm here to love. I talked to God the other day. I know, and that's a problem. But anyway, we'll get to that. It's not a problem. I'm here to love. God, I talked to God the other day. He said, boy, you're on earth and this is your purpose. Your purpose is to love.

To critique at times, but to love. That's your main goal. Well, you need to be in a missionary. But anyway, I will say this. Here is a simple rule. You got gotta be careful

Of letting people know What makes you tick Because once you let a person Know what makes you tick They can wind your ass up And make you tick When they want you to Right

Be careful Ocho Now they know What makes Jamal Adams tick I'm gonna wind his ass up I don't think He was really ticked I think he was just He was just firing back

The man that started The man wife Ocho You don't think the man was ticked No he was just firing back He was just firing back You know You know saw the man's wife, Ocho, you don't think the man was ticked? No, he was just firing back. He was just firing back. You know how it is firing back. Let me ask you a question. Tell me why people fire back.

Huh? I mean, you heard exactly what I said. Explain to the people at home. Explain to the people at home why those people fire back. The people at home fire back to get their lick back. It's okay. Okay, so you got jokes? Hold on, hold on. Why you get your lick back? You got jokes? Oh, you want to be funny? Why you get their lick back. It's okay. Okay, so you got jokes? Hold on, hold on.

Why you get your lick back? You got jokes? Oh, you want to be funny? Why you get your lick back? Hold on. Because you want... Hey, you want to be funny and talk about yikes?

Here, let me be funny too. Yikes right back. Hold on. If you said he wasn't ticked, why he need to get a lick back? Because, I mean, come on. You really think... No, no, no, no, no, no.

Let me ask you a question. Don't ask. Do you really think... Answer that question, no, no. Let me ask you a question. Don't ask a question. Do you really think... Answer that question. Do you really think he was upset? Answer that question. Do you really think he was upset? Think about it.

Yes. Do you really think he was upset? He said, at the end of the day, I was to get him to understand, leave me the hell alone. When others go low, I go lower. So he... Do you think he was really upset?

Do you really think it bothered him that much? It doesn't matter what I think. Listen, did you hear what he said? Did you hear what he said the first time? You know I don't like you and didn't like you when I was with the Jets. So why even go out your way to do what you did? He did it for a reason.

So clearly he was ticked because he didn't like you when he was with the Jets. No, he wasn't ticked. He just, oh, you know I don't like you, but you want to go out your way to make, to make a post about me getting beat. So I'm going to fire back. What's wrong with that? I'm confused.

I'm confused. So he has to be upset because he fired back? So if you say something about me and I say something about you because you said something back, that mean I'm upset? I'm not upset. I'm just fired back. I'm only going to respond if it bothers me. That ain't high work. That's a damn lie. Because every time I talk shit to

somebody, I'm not responding because I'm upset. Oh, you talking shit? Well, I'm going to talk shit back to you. I don't got to be upset about it. See what you did? Had they not said anything, would you have responded? I'd be going back my way. Since you went out Had they not said anything, would you have responded? Then I'd have been going about my way.

I'd have been going about my way. Thanks for making my point. But since you went out your way to say something, I'm going to say something back. Doesn't mean I'm upset. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. Do you understand?

I don't know if you noticed, but everybody, there are a lot of people that got podcasts and they only have podcasts, they only do numbers if they talk about me and Stephen A.

Right. I don't respond. I don't care. I don't care about you one way or another to lend my audience to hear me go back and forth with you. I understand. That's what you want. Right. I just want to know why can't you make content without talking about me? Without talking about Steven A. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I need a little better context now. Who we talk about you? I don't mention names. I don't mention names on my show.

If you want to tweet about him, I don't mention. Not on this one. Ain't nobody finna play with us like that. They're not playing with you. They're playing with me. We a team. We a package deal. I'm good, I'm good. Because we a package deal. I'm good, Ocho.

Hey. See, I tell you, that's how I handle it. I don't play that shit, man. I'll fuck somebody up about you, man. We don't need to do that. Ocho. Let me take my glasses off.

Ocho. Who playing with us? Ocho. We messing them up by having 35,000 watching live. We messing them up that we got 430 in eight and two months.

That's what's messing them up that's what's bothering them that's what's eating Gilbert's grapes who is Gilbert oh you got a problem who is Gilbert no it's a long story I explain it to you one day hey but you can't let no you can't be letting people just say anything about us man

you need to let me know man Ocho Ocho man I'm with the shit you You heard me? You heard my grandma. Hey, I beating the ass about you, boy I don't play that shit. Ocho, let me tell you something. My grandmother told me when I was a little boy, she said, boy never chase a lie. Yeah. I don't care. You sure you good? I'm good.

Okay. Okay. Good. Let me, listen. Let me know. Ocho. Let me know. I've been having, see. I ain't even know.

I've been having. You shouldn't have told me that because I want to know who said something. Nah, Ocho. I want to know who said something about you. Ocho, it's not important.

But I'm just saying. The fact that they can even, the fact that they can even have a desk to say something about you. But I'm just saying, and the same thing I told you. The fact that they can even, the fact that they can even, my fucking head, say something about you. But that's how they get, that's how they get clicks. They got to mention me.

Yeah, they're going to get, they're going to get a click. They're not, they're not, they can't produce content. Like me, you and I, we don't discuss anybody else

in this business. You do what you do. I'm happy for anybody that has a podcast that's on television and you're producing content. I don't got to take no shot at nobody. I don't got to tell you what this person feels that way or that person, because I don't care what y'all think, because y'all don't cut no checks. Right, right. Okay. Y'all don't stop me from doing what I need to do in order to thrive.

Not live, thrive. Right. It's just hard for me to understand. It's hard because you're a good dude, man. You're a good dude outside of them expensive ass dogs and people talk about you. That shit don't sit right with me.

But here's the thing, Ocho. You have to understand. Think about, I'm one of the few guys, and there are a lot, especially, you know, I wasn't classically trained to be a journalist. Okay? I was at CBS for a decade. Great opportunity.

I appreciate Tony Bettini. I appreciate Sean McManus for giving me the opportunity. But I was kind of miscast because I don't need to be at a desk. I don't work good in soundbites. I need time to expand upon why I'm saying what I said. So the format that I got when I got in 2016, when I went to Undisputed, was perfect for me. It also got an opportunity for people to see my personality, the sense of humor, the relatability,

the charm. They got an opportunity to see that. I'm not afraid to make fun of myself. I'm cool. I'm cool being Shannon Sharp. I don't need to be anybody else other than myself. Right.

And so all of a sudden, people like, man, they gave me my followers, my fans. They gave, I didn't, I never called myself up. They gave me that. Now, everybody that I meet, that's how they refer to me. Right. NBA players, NFL players. I'm talking about people in the street, even women. Can I call you up? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. It doesn't bother. I'm talking about people in the street, even women. Can I call you up?

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't bother. I'm happy. But it bothers them because of the level of success that I've enjoyed, especially over the last couple of years. No, they said that. They said in American Gangster. They said that in the movie American Gangster. I'll they said that. They said in American Gangster. They said that in the movie

American Gangster. I'll never forget that line. Success creates enemies. Yes. But I just told me and you, I told you, I told this to you before. You can't worry about

nobody else's plate. You got to always keep your ass on your own plate and not what nobody else is doing. I've never taken a shot publicly privately and anybody you're gonna tell me who no no i just want to i just want to start some shit nah i know but that's what they want but they're not not on not on my watch what we got what we got what we got here we go i'm feeling uh we're getting a ton of falcon centric chats

dion uh while we're on topic of play calling, what would the Falcons be free of Arthur Smith and Desmond Ritter? Man, Desmond Ritter is just the turnovers, man. It's just hard to overcome that. And he had a decent day. I think he threw for 347 yards. Yeah. But just

the turnovers. It's just the mistakes. He good, boy. Oh, B. John Robinson? I like the other kid from USC. Yeah. Drake London? Yeah. They got Kyle Pitts. I mean, they got...

Man, that's what they need. They need to release Kyle Pitts to somebody that's going to use him the right way. That's what they need to do. But the thing is, Arthur Smith really has a really tight end-centric offense. The tight ends normally do tremendous work. Look at what they had when they was in Tennessee. Remember

when he was in Tennessee? That two tight ends set with Derrick Henry? Yeah. But they not using the number four draft pick the right way. Oh, yeah. Kyle Pitts is the real deal, man. Yeah. Jamal Grant asked, the Falcons, the way. Oh, yeah. Kyle Pitts is the real deal, man. Yeah. Jamal Grant asked, the Falcons,

the Atlanta Falcons is a coach away from being contenders. I smell Eric B. Enemy on the way. Honestly, I wish EBU had stayed in the Chiefs.

Nah. Because they're about to clean houses. They're about to clean houses. So, wait. Eric B. Enemy got to go? He just got there? Yeah, he going.

Wait. You have to, Ocho, when it's like when you buy a house, now you can keep the furniture if you want to, but more times than not, what you going to do with it? You tell him, take that furniture with you. Yeah, but there ain't another play caller that is of the caliber

that the commanders can bring in that is that of Eric Biennium. So do you really want to get him? Yeah, because when they remove Ron Rivera, the new coach is going to want to bring his guy in. His guy? Oh, shit. Or he's probably, he's probably, if he gets the head coaching job, he's probably, because Josh Harris is the owner, he's probably probably going to say are you going to call the plays and so the new owner is going to want somebody that's going to call the plays especially are they going to look in the market

to get a quarterback I mean what direction they're going to go in Sam Howell is playing good football you sure you want to I thought he was the answer what's the question the commander fan said Sam thought he was the answer. What's the question? The Commander fan said Sam Howell was the answer. I heard him say that.

Maybe me and you logged into different chats. Mr. King Dre asked, will we ever see a Michael Vick experience in Atlanta again? I doubt it. Hell nah. I doubt it. You'll never see nothing like that again. Michael Vick is a one-off. I mean, y'all better be... I'll happen to be in Atlanta at the time that Michael Vick was

with him. And think about it. It's called the Michael Vick experience. There's never been anything like it. For a reason. There's never been anything like it. And we got guys that got great legs. I mean, I think Lamar Jackson. I think Justin Fields. I think we got guys that...

But they ain't Michael Vick. It was different. On that turf? Yeah. Lamar Jackson is dynamic. He's great at what he does. But that Michael Vick motherfucking experience, you had to be around.

You had to be around to understand the difference between that and what we're seeing in today's game. Babe. That shit was different. And I can't even put it,

I can't even explain, I can't even put into words, that is something you just had to been around to experience. You had to see it. You had to be around to see it. And YouTube, YouTube ain't gonna work.

Nah. That ain't gonna work. Something, you had to experience it for yourself. Yeah. You know, like, when people... When I try to... What my thing is,

when I try to explain Freaknik... Right. Oh, 94? Man, you know what? I got to get up. Hold on. Let me repent. Hold on.

Boy, Freaknik 94? Man, look here. Man. 94? 93ek 94 Man look here Man 94 93 94 95 Man why you think

I moved to Atlanta Hey listen I had to stand up Man Me and my brother Boy I got some story About Freak Neek boy You ain't got no story

Like I got some story I got some story I got some story Nah I got my story Better than yours Hey look here I ain't talking about Hey I ain't talking about No skeletons I'm talking about a graveyard like I got some stories. I got some stories. I got some stories. Boy, no, I got my stories better than yours, boy. Hey, look here. I ain't talking about no, hey, I ain't talking about

no skeletons. I'm talking about a graveyard. I got a graveyard I can dig up. Man, listen. Boy, what you, I'm the pallbearer. What you talking about? Hey, Ocho.

Ocho, man, look here. You don't want to talk about, you don't want to talk about no freaknik stories, man. No, I don't. I don't want to talk about no freaknik stories. As a matter of fact,

what is freaknik? Huh? Is that where they have a picnic at? Is that a about no freaknik story. As a matter of fact, what is freaknik? Huh? If that's where they have a picnic at, is that a big old freaknik? Yeah, it's a picnic, all right. Table cloths everywhere. Man. Boy, them some days, boy. I just said there was a lot of Bibles out there

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and Kobe could do that just from an odd standpoint that we don't have. You believe LeBron is still Do you still believe LeBron is the face of the league? If LeBron is not the face of the league, who else would be up? Who would be runner up?

I think they wanted Zion Williamson to be the next face of the league, but that didn't pan out the way it should be. And I think, Zion, if you see this, you need to get with me. I can help you with some of the things that you're struggling with. No, you can't. Back to the topic. You're the problem.

Because he's eating fast food. That's his problem. You can't help him. What do you mean I can't help him? How do you know what you're going to tell him to do? I trained like a madman, man, to get this body looking the way it looks right now. What are you talking about, B? Ocho, Ocho, you are a thin-framed man.

This man, he has to be careful. He can't eat that. He cannot. Did you just say I'm, man, I'm big boned. What you talking about I'm thin-framed, man? I'm 220 right now. What you talking about? I tried to tell, I tried to'm 220 right now. What you talk about? I tried to tell I tried to tell people this and they

say, Shannon, you hating on him. How you know you not around? You just talk about a guy that was in peak physical condition. Right. When I played, I'm in fairly good condition at 55 years of age. So I can tell you, I can speak. I see, I know what I see.

And I'm telling you I can speak I see I know what I see and I'm telling you right Zion does not take he loves the game but it's the things that you do prior to the game

right his conditioning his eating habits that's that's there's a way to overcome you know what that's another topic

I'm not even gonna do that because we'll be here all day he can't he can't overcome a bad diet. He can't. He can't. It's been reported that

the team asked him your diet, your nutrition. Can't you see? His stomach and his ass going in two different directions one going that way and the other going that way now you guess which one is which man stop playing no joe you see that man he and the problem is is that he's so he still has success but just imagine how great he could be if he got himself in shape he the first thing he should have done, the moment he declared for the NBA draft, he should have picked up the phone

and called Charles Barkley. Chuck. Because he's a more athletic Charles Barkley. And all he had to do was pick up the phone and say, Chuck, how you, Charles, how you want to call? You want to address him as Charles, Chuck, Mr. Barkley? Right.

Remember what I need to do. Because I want to have a long, prosperous, healthy career. What what I need to do. Because I want to have a long, prosperous, healthy career. What do I need to do? How did you do it? That should have been the first call he made. But I'm not wrong if I'm mistaken that Zion Williamson was in place to be the next face of the NBA once LeBron. Okay, I just want to make sure I didn't just pull that out.

The guy, you know, you got Steph Curry, you got, uh, uh, uh, uh, Giannis,

but it's kind of hard because Giannis is not American boy. It's hard for someone to be the face of American sport, even though it's a global sport. Right. Right. Right. Um, but LeBron, LeBron is still the face. He's still that Right. But LeBron...

LeBron is still the face of the NBA. He is. You know, I would... I might have been at, you know, the ITF, the end-season tournament game.

Oh, you went to the game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sat courtside? Yeah, I did, I did, I did. Hey, how much some tickets was in Vegas? You know, you know, it ain't what you know is who you know. I got, you know... Oh, you got the I did, I did. Hey, how much some tickets was in Vegas? You know, it ain't what you know, it's who you know.

I got you know. Oh, you got the hookup, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. You see, AD do a 40-20. LeBron had a ho-hum 24-11-4. Austin Reed, Kobe of the Ozarks. Yeah, can we get that Anthony Davis every night? If you get that Anthony Davis every night, who'll be the Lakers? If you get that Anthony Davis every night, who will be the Lakers?

If you get that Anthony Davis every night, that's Will Chamberlain. If you get that Anthony Davis every night, who will be the Lakers? That Anthony Davis, nobody. Not if you get that Anthony Davis. Thank you. Thank you. I don't even want, listen, I don't want that Anthony. Look, I got realistic expectations. He was angry. I don't know who... Listen, I don't want that Anthony. Look, I got realistic expectations.

He was angry. I don't know who did something to him before the game. He just played angry. I'm like, damn, what you mad at? He didn't let anybody off the hook. He didn't let anybody... Because anytime a little man got on him, they gave it to him, they started hard.

Krispy Kreme. With that light on. That hot light on. Yeah.. They started hard. Krispy Kreme with that light on. That hot light on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's when he started. Krispy Kreme. Every time they got a mismatch, Krispy Kreme.

He went to work. LeBron give it down to him. D-Lo give it down to him. Austin Reeves give it down to him. Because we already know what Krispy Kreme is. Them saying, you ain't going to eat just one. You eat a whole dozen of them. And they couldn't hot with that light on.

Man, I run up a part. I probably eat about six of them right now. I ain't had no Krispy Kreme. I probably ain't had Krispy Kreme probably about, oh my God, probably about seven, eight years. Krispy Kreme is a part of my nutritional diet. by seven, eight years. Krispy Kreme is a part

of my nutritional diet. So I can get a meal planned over to you if you want to. You can incorporate it in what you're doing right now as somewhat of a cheat meal

on Fridays and Saturdays. Hot? I'm talking about them hot. I'm talking about hot. I eat six of them right now. Yeah, I get my Krispy Kreme on 1-63rd.

We got Krispy Kreme right there on 1-63rd. They ain't got, unfortunately, they ain't got, unfortunately, they ain't got one close in Beverly Hills. So, they ain't gonna be hot

by the time they get to me. Why you even, why you even in Beverly Hills in the first place? You in LA, man. Go right there on Crenshaw, right on the corner.

It's across from, I don't know, the Louisiana Fried Chicken. Krispy Kreme right there across the street. Aaron Gordon said, I went on a date with a girl one time. And the said, I went on a date with a girl

one time, and the last thing she had on her phone was Aaron Gordon's net worth. Yeah, that's what they do. I've been preaching that for years. Yeah, that's why I tell you. What you buying all that shit for? Who are you trying to impress?

Why you driving that? Why your watch cost $300,000? Why you buy a $200,000 chain? Why you buy real a $225,000 diamond? Let me finish talking. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, finish. The women you trying to impress

and already Google how much you making. You ain't got to do nothing else. You already got it. Okay. You already got it. And why buy her what? A $. You already got it. Okay. You already got it. And why buy her what? A $225,000 diamond. Who you trying to impress?

You said why? Who are you trying to impress? Why you buy her that $250,000, $300,000 car? Who are you trying to impress? Because I got it. What the fuck? So when other guys, they got it and they do it,

who are you trying to impress? But because you got it, you get to do it. Make it make sense, man. I'm marrying mine. They just trying to fuck them. It doesn't matter. No, it does matter.

Why are you trying to impress if you matter? Stay context. What's's context? Context matters. This one is for life. That's for fun. There's a difference.

That's why they doing the Google. Which means you shouldn't even do that because you got her for life. Why you need to impress her? Because she's a representation of me everywhere she fucking go. That's why. So in other words,

you talking about both sides of your neck. Because you got it, you can spend it. But somebody else got it, they can't spend it. Nope, nope. Not for them. Not for them.

Listen, that's an investment. I'm getting a return on that. What they getting? The return you get on that is nothing. You can get that for free. So you don't believe them men can marry that woman if they wanted to? You trying to be funny?

No. You trying to be funny? No. You think he finna marry the motherfucking woman that's Googling his goddamn net worth? You trying to be funny? You know how the game go. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know how the game go. Don't do that. You're quite hostile. You gotta play. You gotta. Listen. You better play the game goes. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know how the game goes. Don't do that. You're quite hostile. You got to play.

Listen, you better play the game right or you're going to get burned. Don't you do that. But all I'm saying is you get because you got the money. You feel this is an investment. You feel you get to spend as much as you want, but nobody else can. I ain't spend no money. You did. No, I didn't.

You bought that ring. You said $225,000. And if it's a lie, you told it. Now, we saw that car that she got. You bought that. You saw my car? I'm not talking about yours. Whatever you drive, you bought that. The

money that purchased that car came out of your account. That money for that ring came out of your account. But hold on. The car I drive, she purchased that. came out of your account. That money for that ring came out of your account. But hold on. The car I drive, she purchased that. You see how they go? You see how they go? You see how they go?

I'm talking about you spending. I'm talking about you. I am. I'm talking about you. Listen, I'm matching the energy that is given to me. See, on the other hand, the person that's Googling your network, you ain't getting it. Let me see your ring. How much your ring cost?

Let me see your ring. No, no, no. Turn to the camera. How much that cost? Shit, it's about $40. Okay. So, where's your $225,000 diamond ring? I don't like no shit like that.

Oh, now you don't like it. I don't like no shit like that. Now you don't like it. Now you don't like it. Hold on, hold on. Yo, yo, it. Now you don't like it. Now you don't like it. Hold on, hold on. Yo, yo, yo. You done followed me all your life and you know how I am

about financial literacy and spending goddamn money. Don't you do that. You just spent half a million dollars and now you gonna talk to me about financial literacy. You know why I was able to spend half a million?

Because I ain't spend no fucking money when I was playing. I was cheap as hell and I still am. It doesn't matter. It matters because I'm giving you context on why I did. I'm giving you context and you're not listening. You're letting it go in your head.

No, it ain't going on my head. Because what you're trying to do is saying, if you're doing financial literacy, that means you do that all the time. I do do it all the time. I've been doing it for the past 30 years. You spent $500,000. Okay.

For the person that's going to be here for the rest of my life. So you're going to go spend $500,000. Bill Gates worth $115 billion. He didn't drop no $225,000 when his wife ring. He didn't buy her no half a million dollar car. So now talk to me.

How you know? You don't know them people. You don't know them people. You don't know them people. You don't know Bill. You don't know Bill. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't know Bill. You're quite hostile.

Your anagrams are starting to show. I'm not hostile. You're quite hostile. I'm just telling you. See, you know what happened? This is why I need to get you a woman. Because if you had your woman in your life. Listen, no.

Stay with me now. If you had your woman in your life, no stay with me now if you had your woman in your life you understand why i was okay spending that money that's the problem that's the problem see you want to spend ten thousand dollars on the goddamn dog you want to spend goddamn crazy three hundred thousand some goddamn laker tickets but you want to spend goddamn private jet flying fifty thousand for an hour but you want to talk about I can't spend no goddamn $500,000 on my woman. Enjoy

because that you enjoy your woman, right? No, no, no, no. Private plane you don't need to do. You can get your ass on Spirit Airline just like I can.

Ocho, Ocho I'm going to enjoy my life. You don't even have to you don't even have to pay $300,000 for legacy tickets because you can watch the game at the comfort of your home

like I do. Okay. That's what you choose to do. You see? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's what you choose to do. You're not getting any return on that investment that you're doing.

Everything ain't meant for a return. I'm getting a return on what I'm investing in. I'm getting a return. My happiness. What? Being able to sit courtside. No.

Watching people sit. No. How do you get to determine my happiness? No. How do you get to determine what makes me happy? Because you can get on the airline with me. Me and you can fly sphere together. You can be happy.

We can pay $200. No, no, no. We can get a goddamn ticket. I guarantee you'd be happy with me when we get, we'd be gone. How do you get to determine what makes me happy? Because I know it'd be happy with me when we get, when we get, we'll be gone. How do you get to determine what makes me happy? Because I know it makes you happy.

I know it makes you happy because we cut from the same cloth. Oh, Joe. We cut from the same, and you know what? And you won't understand it, right? You won't understand it because you're a bit stubborn.

I love you though. You're a bit stubborn. That's why until I get you a woman in your life to complete everything. You're a bit stubborn. That's why until I get you a woman in your life to complete everything that you're doing, you will never understand where I'm coming from. But again, let's get back to the topic. Guess what I have right now? A woman? Peace. Anyway, Jada Pinkett Smith. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're saying if you have a woman, you're not going to have peace? I'm not saying anything.

I'm saying I'm at peace right now. That's what you just said. That's what you were alluding to just now. I have peace. Who would just say I don't have a woman? Well, why you ain't tell me? Why you keeping shit from me if you got a woman? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

See, Ocho. Do you have somebody? Let me know if you have somebody so I can stop searching. Jada Pickett Smith says, I will never leave Will Smith. Oscar Slap saved my marriage Ocho does she know

they're not married I don't understand what's wrong with her they have cohabitation they live together they have a cohabitation they live together I like that

I never heard that word before I know cohabit say it again there's an agreement that you can enter into it's called a cohabitation agreement cohabitation agreement.

Cohabitation. I like that. I like that. Ocho. So she did this to the Daily Mail. When you gave this interview to the Daily Mail, I mean, basically, everybody said, nah, we good. We're not here to... Think about what she said.

Right. The slap saved a marriage, but it ruined your husband's career. Right. I'm confused because I don't follow the gossip much. I understand. I know the slap.

It was everywhere, obviously. But if my mistake is she said we weren't even married at the time. So I'm not sure why he got up in there. They were married, but they weren't living together. They hadn't been together since 2016. I'm not even sure why he even defended me.

And he said it was a bad thing to do. So now... She talking about both sides of her neck. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just on good terms. Maybe whatever dynamic they have going on, maybe it works for them. And I'm not really one to talk

because I don't know their situation. I don't... I'm not Wendy Williams. So it's hard for me to even even discuss you know their their marital their marital marital terms but i like that word say it again what's that word again cohabitation let me write that shit down hold on oh joe can i ask you a question oh joe yes yes sir if that's if that's the approach that you want y'all want you want to be able to see who you want to in the marriage, he wants to be able to see he... Why you get married?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Unc, now you know them. The wealthy live a different lifestyle that has nothing to do with the societal norms and traditional values that we were raised on. You know that.

So why use the term marriage? They complete... Marriage is a societal normal marriage in itself is when you do it you do it what you do what works for you i don't think that's the definition of marriage listen you want it to work or don't you you want it to work or don't you? You want it to work or don't you? So marriage in itself and the meaning behind it everybody can't do it that way or the way it's supposed to be

structurally done. So you do what works for you and your partner. Me personally I think the more she talks the worse she looks. Well, she always talks she always talks though

and I think she always will because she always talks though. And I think she always will because she always has been in the spotlight and she has always put us in their private business, which is why we're talking about it now. Because if she didn't say anything,

we wouldn't even know what was going on. No. I mean, but that's the thing. She does it for a reason. I think I like... She's trying to sell a book. But I can't, I mean,

but you're willing to sell your family for a book? Oh, she wrote a book. Wrote another one. Okay. That's a good thing, no? Yeah? Are you going to read it?

No. Please. No? Okay. Charleston White was attacked on stage after arguing with an audience member. You know who Charleston White is? He was on stage. He funny.

He funny, man. He funny. He funny, man. He funny. And the funny thing about it, I've seen other interviews with him. He's a very smart intellectual guy too. He's a very smart intellectual guy. I've seen some of the stuff he's done and some of the things he said.

And he knows his shit. And I think he purposely dumbs it down on purpose. And I saw the guy tell him, start talking right. And you know, guy bum rust the stage. It just, Charles White be talking cash shit, boy. He be talking cash shit to and about everybody. He's a fun guy. He's an entertaining guy. I see him, you know, up and down the timeline at times. And I mean, he tells it like it is. He tells it like it is.

Some people might not like it. He's one that doesn't cut any corners. And I mean, that's pretty much it. Yeah, I mean. What would you do in that situation? If you was a comedian, you was on stage and somebody rushed the stage? Beat his ass. Oh, you can't.

I'm paid to be up here. Nah, you ain't gonna rush no stage on me. They paid to see you. You can't beat up the people that paid to come see you. No, he paid to listen to me and sit his ass in that seat. He paid to come up on that stage or he should go to open mic.

Okay, okay. Go to the promoter and ask or he should go to open mic. Or. Okay. Okay. Go to the promoter and ask to get on the list. Right. Cause you come up there. I'm not going to, I'm not going to let what happened to Chris Rock happen to me.

Oh yeah. That's right. Somebody did rush the stage. That's right. No, ain't no rush no stage. Will Smith is about to see. Yes. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. No. So no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was dating. Oh, put the spotlight on me. Roast me. I, bro,

took it. You ain't saying that back? No. Look, I'm at a comedy show. I'm at a comedy show. I'm cool with that. Right. If I go to the comedy show, I'm telling her, look, they probably gonna recognize who I am. Be dressed appropriate. Right. If I go to the comedy show, I'm telling her, look, they probably gonna recognize

who I am. Mm-hmm. Be dressed appropriate. Yes. Because, hey, I ain't fighting nobody. I ain't rushing no stage. Hey,

I ain't doing none of that. I'm gonna sit there. I'm gonna laugh. I'm gonna like, yeah, that is some bullshit you got. That is some bull job you got on.

So I'm gonna get some in. Hey, if we get in the car, I'm like, he told you up or she told you up tonight. I told you not to wear that. I mean, that's what you got to do. You just got to roll with it, Ocho. Because the longer you fight it, the longer they're going to stay

on you. Yeah. So just, hey, just roll with it. Oh, that's funny, man. Oh, man. Check this out, Ocho. We got a ton of really good fan questions and any questions that we don't get to tonight because they only have two games tomorrow we'll definitely get to them tomorrow check this out someone asked if you think do you think anybody from the nfl nba will ever reach the amount of money that shohei otani shohei otani which short in america

means show me the money just got from the Dodgers in a contract. That contract, 10 years, $700 million. $700 million? Shit, no. Definitely happened in the NFL. Definitely, no. And he going to get every dime of that. Oh, yeah.

That's guaranteed, baby. Oh, I know something. I'm glad you just said that because I heard when I was watching it, I saw it happen. When they deferred, they say some of the money's going to be deferred. Yes. That means he's going to be 75 years old getting

$10, $15 million a year. Okay. I just want to make sure. But he's going to get every dime. Yeah. That's crazy. Mark's Main asked, as a former player, is it particularly difficult to watch receivers make obvious and critical mistakes, drop, pass, and four routes, line up wrong?

Yes. Yes, it is. It is hard. It is very hard. It is very hard. Because let me tell you why. Because I believe in order for you to enjoy a level of success as a team, I'm not talking individually. I'm talking about as a team. I'm not talking individually.

I'm talking about as a team. Right. You can't have those kinds of mistakes. Yeah. Well, I understand it because I was one of those that made those mistakes. You want to minimize them as much as possible. So for me, I'm able to empathize with those that do make them because I was once that same player at one point in time. So it's hard for me to harp on someone that's making those mistakes

when I did the same shit myself. To answer your question. It's not hard for me because I get better. And as my coach used to say, son, get good or get gone. You can get better or you can get gone. That's as simple as that, Ocho. You can't get any simpler than that. There has to be a

level of expectation. If you don't expect, if you don't demand greatness of yourself, what are we doing here? What are we doing? And I'll never ask any more than I'm willing to give. That's what my grandparents say. Boy, you never ask more from a man than you're willing to give yourself. So if you're

going to ask a man to eat right, you damn sure better be eating right. If you ask a person to train and stay the extra hour, you better be willing to go the extra hour. Never ask more than you're willing to give. Therein lies why I've had a level of success and my team had no problem listening to what I had to offer or what I had to say because they knew I wasn't telling them anything that Shannon Sharp was not doing himself. But I demanded greatness. I expected it. You could not be on the field with me and make those same mistakes.

No way, no how. And I was very fortunate that I had coaches that believed in me and trusted me. And I was like, no, he can't play. He's not ready to play. That's my job. Right. As the elder statesman, when you expect mediocrity, you'll get that.

But when you expect and demand greatness, you'll get that also. And if they can't give you that, it's time to move on. And I know everybody's not the same. I just want your best. And I can't have you making the same mistakes over and over. I can't have you running the same lazy ass route over and over. I can't have you making the same mistakes over and over. I can't have you make it running the same lazy ass route over and over.

I can't have you lining up offside over and over. I can't keep having you fumbling the ball, running the wrong route. Because who does that help? How do we get better? How do we get to win a division title? How do we get to win a Super Bowl with you doing this? I just have a level of expectation, and that's why I'm not

a coach. That's why I'm not a coach. Top Sports Debate asks, as a pro sports capper, I get praised when players ball out by the jersey, etc., but I call them out when they don't. If you played in this age, sports betting, how would you handle social media bettors losing money off your plate?

Well, are you sending me anything when you win the money? Oh, that's a good one. Kevin Durant just said that. He said he does. He buys a jersey. He says that when guys win him money, he'll buy their jersey. Right. Honestly, guys, I mean, there was sports betting,

but there was no social media when i played hey look bro i'm trying to win a game i'm trying to win that game i promise you i want to win that game more do you want to win that 500 that thousand or that twenty thousand dollars i promise you i promise you and i'll stay up more later at night have more restless nights because I dropped a pass or I made a mistake that somehow cost us a victory or didn't go the way I wanted it to go, longer than you'll worry about that money. That hurts.

Hell yeah. And you know, I tell people that are gamblers, you know you're going to win and you lose. And if you're not willing to lose, you shouldn't be gambling because you ain't going to win them all. No. You can't, I mean, you're not willing to lose, you shouldn't be gambling because you ain't going to win them all. No. You're not supposed to gamble any more than you can afford to lose

anyway. You shouldn't be upset when you do lose. I think that's the problem. Of course. Anthony Jamerson said, ask who's your top five rappers of all time. Who's your top five rappers? Oh, shit. Damn. ask who's your top five rappers of all time who's your top five rappers oh damn

uh man he didn't put me on the spot man lowane jay-z Lil Wayne, Jay-Z. Damn, that's hard. It's tough. It's tough. It's hard. Because I go back a little further than you, and I got like the old school rappers like kr where krs1 um

molly maul i mean big daddy cane big daddy but here's the thing a lot of the great rappers they didn't last long right i mean you look at tupac tupac died at 25 yeah biggie died at like 25, 26 early yeah you never know what they would have evolved into as they continued to grow but you know for me even though they didn't have longevity

boy they set the world on fire when I was here Biggie, Tupac Weezy yeah Lil Wayne fire when i was here biggie tupac wheezy yeah little wayne and that's just that's that's a that's a difficult question that i like so many different artists some of the people some of the people i would name people like why are you here i didn't mean it in your time he's not even... Nas. Nas. Lyricist. Lyricist.

Drake. Is Drake up there? Not for me in top five. Right. Not top five. Probably the best pure lyricist is probably KRS-One. One, yeah. Most definitely.

But I love Big Daddy Kane. I mean, the guy that don't get credit, that had the greatest longevity... Hold on. My battery's fin had the greatest longevity Hold on. My battery finna go dead. Hold on. is LL. LL?

Yeah. Because LL was a team and he's still going strong. LL. LL and I are the same age. LL only 55? Yeah. 55, 56.

I think he's 55. I think he and I are the same age. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Right there 56. I think he 55. I think he and I are the same age. Oh, I ain't know that. Yeah. Right there on LL. LL. Oh, he's licking his lips. Who we got? Ocho, skyline or gold star chili? He's from Houston.

Raised in Cincinnati in adulthood in Baltimore. Skyline or gold star chili skyline Oh chicken box of crab I'm allergic to shellfish so I only I'm only eating chicken I miss him no I ain't worth it with no shellfish in a dilemma return my three-year ex. Hold on. In a dilemma, return my three-year ex or pursue a long-known girl from school. Hold on. It says, in a dilemma. He says, he's in a dilemma.

Return to my three-year ex or pursue a long-known girl from school. I feel might be the one. Unsure which path to choose. I also haven't really talked to her in years, but I also thought she's the one. Advice. How do you know she ain't the one?

So, he's a dilemma. Okay, does he return to his ex in three years or pursue a long... Someone from school. Yeah. Nah. Nah. Nah.

Bro. Enjoy your life. Man, it's hard going back. You know what they say? Love is like an eclair. Once it goes cold, it can't be re-eated. I know.

You left for a week very few times. And I'm not... Very few times. And I'm not going to say never or always because that means forever. But there are very few times and I'm not saying very few times and I'm not going to say never or always because that means forever. But there are very few times that you leave and you're able to go

back. What's going to change? What's going to change? Either her or you. Somebody had to change. Did you make any changes or did she make any changes? And what, what, first of all,

what led you to break up in the first place? I think that's, that's the biggest key, Ocho. What, what led you to break up? Say this out, Ocho.

Alex, Alex asked, who's a better wingman? Uncle Ocho. Me? I'm the best wingman. I'm the best, I'm the best wingman

in the world. Yeah, because I know back in the day, you took one for the team. So you, you that wingman. I'm the best wingman in the world. Yeah, because I know back in the day, you'd have took one for the team. So you'd have wingman to take one for the team. Who? Nah. Yeah, you got...

Hold on. You ain't gonna take one for the team. I'm the wingman that's gonna make sure all the fellas got a woman. I need you to... I need you back in the day to take one for the team. I need you to be that homeboy that you back in the day to take one for the team I need you to be that homeboy that you know

that'll hit the snake if I hold her hand I need you to be that homeboy dude boy it depend on what the snake look like bro anyway I got a home

I got a homeboy yeah he like an American Express I couldn't leave home without it hey Ocho I don't care I couldn't leave home without it. Oh, hey, Ocho. I don't care if she's four foot. I don't care if she's seven foot. I don't care if she's 125.

She's 425. Right. You know that homeboy I told you? He will hit the snake if you hold her hand. Yeah. My homeboy hit the wood pile to snake in. Hmm. Yeah, he like that.

Every time. Yeah, he like that. Every time. Yeah, man. Yeah, because you know, you know how normal the females are. They're going to be about three or four of them,

sometimes five. Everybody ain't going to be up to par. Everybody ain't going to be dimes. And listen, the ones weighing dimes going to cock block

so you can't get to the ones who are. Yeah, so I need somebody running affairs for them. So there might be one 10 and they four other with them. So all of them together add up to be a 10. So, you know, there might be two twos, some twos and twos up in there. Yeah.

So I need somebody. Hey, homeboy. Hey, hey, don't worry about it. Hey, don't worry about it, Sharp. I got you. Ooh, you. My homeboy got that. Yeah. about it, Sharp. I got you. Ooh, you... My homeboy got that. You sure?

Yeah. He got it. Homie, you got... Say no more. Out to the races. Out to the races we go. But you need one of them. You got to have one. If you ain't got a homeboy that'll take one for the team,

he ain't no real homeboy. I have to say, You got to have one. Every time. If you ain't got a homeboy that'll take one for the team, he ain't no real homeboy. I have to say, everybody got it, though. Everybody got one of those in your clique, in your entourage. Everybody has one dude that is going to take it

for the team. Now, I just want y'all to know, I ain't ever been that dude. That ain't ever been me. Oh, no. No? Oh, you always been that boy. You know, I just ain't looking.

Y'all know now. 180, you ain't a lady. 210, count your boy in now. In. You know I'm there, you know? Hey. Let me use that. No, you're too late now.

You got real. Real. Yeah. You good. I'm good too, Ocho. I'm good now. I'm good. good you know but back in the day you know yeah all right all right all right you know i always been pretty pretty strong you know what i'm saying oh joe you know yeah yeah yeah i'm still trying to figure out man i'm like you

thought like you you thought it was a clues, before Real, who was your celeb crush? Damn. I ain't had no... That's a good one, boy. I ain't had... Oh. Yo. No bullshit.

And I don't even care if I get in trouble. Who you had? Motherfucking Lynn Whitfield, boy. Lynn Whitfield, burn your heart. You don't love her. it Hey you burn your heart You set your call fire You see what she did to Martin Listen

Miss Lynn Whitfield Let me take my glasses off man So the people understand Lynn Whitfield Punk listen here Yeah I got one more Who that?

Kimberly Elise Woo yeah No no no no Yeah that's her Yeah I know you told me Yeah Kimberly Elise Mmhmm

Mmhmm She on live She fine right now As a matter of fact I just saw her yesterday She fine yesterday too Mmhmm Mmhmm Mmhmm You know who Oh Ocho Look here now. As a matter of fact, I just saw her yesterday. She fine yesterday too. Mm-hmm. You know what?

Oh, Ocho. Look here. When I say this, guys, I'm not shooting no shot, so don't be tagging this woman. Don't be bothering this woman. Talk to me. You got me hyped. Who you got? Who you got? Regina Hall. Lord have mercy. That's a good one.

I met her at the Super Bowl one year You didn't get her number? I walk up to her Yeah I say, hey, how you doing? My name's Shannon Sharp She's like, I know who you are Oh, she says she knows who you are?

Yeah But I introduce myself I say, my name's Shannon Sharp She's like, I know who you are Yeah But she left an impression on your boy yeah we got it we got to hook that up boy what you think no we don't no no no we told you i just told you did i just tell you okay my bad all right my bad we can give people flowers yeah but i try

to take the flowers okay i'm sorry okay i apologize Okay. I apologize. I appreciate it. Joshua said I just found out today I'll be a father. Can I get a shout out for my wife and myself? Peyton and Joshua. Love the channel. Congratulations Joshua. I don't know if you know if it's going to be a boy and a girl, but I hope it's a healthy baby and much success

to you and Peyton. Congratulations on being new parents. Congratulations on being new parents. Congratulations on the first. If this is your first, one is better than two. Make sure when she delivers, you get back in there.

Huh? Get back in there and do what? What you mean get back in there? Get back in there. Get my break, man. Damn. I ain't getting no break. I mean, it's the first child.

Yeah. Two is better than one. Get back. You don't want them too far apart. You don't want them too far apart. Listen, send me a DM. You don't want them too close together. No, you want them close together. You want to get it out of the way.

Get it out of the way now. Get it out of the way. If you want more than one, get it out of the way as soon as you deliver. Give it three weeks. Get back in there. John 330

said, I finally called a live show and I'm and I'm admire both of you on and off the field. Could you guys give my daughter Autumn a birthday shout out? Happy birthday, Autumn. She turned 13 today. Happy birthday, Autumn. Make sure you eat McDonald's. Oh, Lord, have mercy. He's the worst.

He's the worst mentor ever. Thank you, guys. Please make sure you hit that like button. Thank you for subscribing and please, Lord, have mercy. He's the worst. He's the worst mentor ever. Thank you, guys. Please make sure you hit that like button. Thank you for subscribing. And please, please, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. We would greatly appreciate it. We've gone a lot longer than we anticipated tonight. But that's what happens when we have.

Yeah, yeah. We went a lot longer than we anticipated. How long we been on tonight? How long we been on? Been on 205, we went a lot longer than we anticipated. How long we been on tonight? How long we been on? Been on 205, which is a record. God damn, two hours? That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, and I gotta get up. I gotta go to work

in the morning. I gotta go to work in the morning, don't you? Where you gotta work at? Man, you ask me this all the time. I'm just asking, where? I gotta go to ESPN downtown. Oh, on first take? Yeah. The same first take I've been asking you to take me on since

September? Oh, you told me to wait till you got your goddamn foot in the dough. Shit, it's been four months. I'm still waiting. My foot in the dough, but I ain't got my ass in the dough yet. You know what I'm saying? Your ass in the dough? We almost in 2024. Your ass been in the goddamn dough.

That's what I got to get in? That's what I'll be fully in. I'm still waiting then. I'll wait. Ain't no problem. I just want to do one or two blocks. A block, B block. I ain't ask for much. That's it. Thank you, guys.

Man, we got like 3,000 subs just since the show started. I appreciate y'all, man. I appreciate y'all for subbing, man. You don't understand. It means a lot to me, man. It means a lot to me. I'm not sure y'all don't even know.

I'm behind on child support. And I'm sure at some point with y'all subbing and helping me out, one day I'm going to be able to catch up on child support I ain't got no I'm only behind like $250 Hey guys listen and I know you guys a lot of people say

everyone is asking why we can't do songs well what happened when we were doing the songs and we got hit with copyrights. So when you get hit with copyrights, YouTube take the monetization button off. So for the entire night, we can't monetize the hour and a half,

the hour 45, or the two hours. And it's just not worth it for Ocho and I. So that's why we can no longer do songs because we lose the ability to monetize the podcast. I have a question. Yes.

And this is very confusing to me. If we sing a song, let's say, I'm not going to say the name. Can I even say the name of the song? You can say the name of it, but we can't sing it. We sang Silent Night, right? Yes. Silent Night has been, so many people have done renditions of Silent Night. Right.

How does that affect anyone that we were not saying an artist's name? Whoever had the original version. They had a problem with us singing it? The company did. Maybe their estate did. You know what? I'm going to make a phone call, man. I'm going to make a phone call.

I ain't going to make no phone call. We just ain't doing no more songs. It's just not worth it. It's not. Man, that's messed up, man. I'm going to make a phone call. I ain't going to make no phone call. We just ain't doing no more songs. It's just not worth it. It's not. Man, that's messed up, man. And I get people, you know. We were having fun. We were having fun.

It was harmless. But hey, no. So that's where we are with that. We'll find another way to keep you guys entertained. Hopefully be a two and a half, two hours. Sometimes we go 90. We always go at least 75. That's the least amount of time that we'll go.

But we'll go 75. Sometimes we go 90. Sometimes we go 120 minutes, which is two hours. And so hopefully during that process, our sports take, you really enjoy. And the stories that we tell, you also enjoy. So thank you for subscribing. Thanks for hitting that like button. And remember, go to Apple Podcasts and leave us a review. I'm your favorite

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