Nightcap - Nightcap - Cowboys holding on vs. Lions, Russ vs. Broncos, LeBron's birthday

Episode Date: December 31, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the controversial ending in the Detroit Lions-Dallas Cowboys games, more drama in the Russell Wilson vs. Denver Broncos situation, the Georgia Bulldogs pummeling the FSU Seminoles 633, LeBron James' 39th birthday, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction04:00 - Cowboys beat lions35:00 - Russell Wilson calls benching a "low blow"49:00 - Russell's next team01:02:00 - LeBron's birthday ruined01:28:00 - Ceedee Lamb will get PAID01:44:00 - Ocho's next book02:04:00 - Parenting advice02:20:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports hunk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, Bengals legend, rock runner extraordinaire, ring of honor in the Cincinnati Bengals, ring of fame, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

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of Shea, a bottle of Portier. Again, as we signed on, we had 582,000 subscribers. So Ocho and myself, we want to personally thank you because we understand without you there are no us and the success of Nightcap is all because of you. We do what we do

but we need people to like what we do. So we greatly, greatly appreciate that. Ocho, let's jump right into this ball game. The Cowboys beat the Lions 2019. CeeDee Lamb had a career night, what we had talked about last week. He got going early, and you see, 17 targets tonight.

That's what he should have had last week, but they didn't make that mistake they made last week. Dallas improves 11-5, remains in the mix for the NFC title. Dallas falls to, excuse me, Detroit falls to 11-5, third in the NFC title. Dallas falls to, excuse me, Detroit falls to 11-5, third in the NFC. So the worst they can be is third in the NFC. That's the worst

they can be. So they will host at least one playoff game. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. Where do you want to start? Listen, I like the game. I enjoy the game on both sides of the ball obviously the

first the first half it was a bend but don't break excuse me it was a bend but don't break defense uh both offenses really couldn't get in the rhythm but it made for excitement especially into the second half of the game dac was decent cd land was fucking oh shoot my bad my bad i curse cd land was balling brand Brandon Cooks showed up tonight. Dak was efficient. Dak was very efficient. They really couldn't get in the end zone as many times as I would have liked them to. But it made for an exciting game on the tail end.

The Lions, listen, we say they fall to 11-5, but we're talking about the Lions here. Is it really falling, being 11-5 and being third in the NFC and obviously going to the playoffs? They play good. Obviously, they couldn't overcome the turnovers. I think Goff threw two interceptions, if I'm not mistaken. He threw two interceptions, if I'm not mistaken. And I really like Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's cojones

to go for the two-point conversion, to get it, and obviously, the tackle not checking in. And they're going for it again and him not checking in. Right. And then have, and they going for it again and him not even caring. I really liked that. Um, for him, the team, just the confidence, the morale, just the whole nine yards. They didn't get the win, but again, it was, it was a great game. The Cowboys played very, very, very, very good football. I'm glad they figured out in order to be in games in order to win games,

you got to get your playmakers the ball. They tried to run. The running game really wasn't efficient with Parler tonight. Hadn't been efficient all year. Hadn't been good all year. Yeah, you're right. You're right about that. I didn't want to say that part.

I just wanted to mention it about tonight. But CeeDee Lamb went off, man. It was a great day. This is what, obviously, you just said. I'm going to piggyback on what you just said. This is what CeeDee Lamb, what they should have done with him last week, too. And not allow him to disappear into the second half of the game.

It makes life easy. It makes life easy for the coordinator. It makes life easy for Dak. And it opens up everything else. I thought Dak threw the ball exceptionally well tonight, Ocho. With the exception of that one mistake where he got picked, he was a little late throwing the CD on the move. I thought Dak played really well because even if you look at some of the

incompletions that he had to the tight end, if the defense doesn't make great plays, Jake Ferguson come down with those balls. He had two, but it took extraordinary plays by the defensive player to get the ball out. So Dak put the ball on the money. So with the exception of that one bad throw, I thought he played,

I thought he threw the ball exceptionally well. The Cowboys can't run the football. Dak has a lot on his plate because he has to be great. Because when you're one-dimensional, now everybody knows what you can do. And they know the Cowboys can't run. But to the Cowboys' credit, they were able

to find uh um to get cd isolated they put him in the slot a lot they did a lot of picking if you notice they did a lot of rub rubs and both guys both guys can't press because you're gonna get picked off like you did so somebody has to be off and somebody has to be bumped okay they didn't get that rectified i thought I thought the Lions ran the ball well. The problem that I have with the Lions, you know the Cowboys, they're looking to cross your face. They want to make every run play

bounce. How many times did we see them get tackled in the backfield, Ocho? Because they let D-Law, or they let Armstrong, or they let Diggy Zua, or they let someone cross their face. You know, the Cowboys, they're undersized. What they don't want you to do is to come downhill at them.

So they're looking to make everything bounce. I mean, damn, I'm sure you watch films. I'm sure your old line coach told you. I'm sure the running backs told you. Do not let them cross your face and if almost every time when they didn't let them cross their face five six seven eight yards nine yards ten yards it's really that simple oh joe look i get it the two point look i got a problem with the first down he went for the fourth down. You did? I did. No, I'm talking about early in the game.

You remember when they ran the fake punt? They ran the fake punt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't like that? I didn't for the simple fact you took points off the board after that great play. So now that's deflating because we did something great, and now we got nothing to show for it. At the end of the – I want something to show for, man, we went for it.

And that's huge because look where they work they would have given dallas the ball but like at the 20 yard line yeah worst case scenario the cowboys are going to come away with three points maybe seven and blow the ball game open that was a gutsy call by dan campbell now pay it off by getting points and see now maybe now we got a different situation. Now, instead of going for it, now if we go for two, that puts us up by three. Now the Cowboys are going to need to kick a field goal in order to tie us. Right.

But in that situation, Decker does not report. Because if we're to believe that all the angles that ESPN showed us, he never goes to the referee or the umpire and does this the lady always got her you always got to report you got to report to it and you got to make sure he lets you know he got you coming in reporting as well yeah exactly now you look at the receiver he's the x he has to be on the ball oh the moment you're off the ball you make the lineman ineligible. Yeah. So it was just a matter of, okay, what do we want to call?

Illegal touching by the offensive lineman or illegal formation by the wide receiver? Not being on the ball. The choice was yours. They had to. Yeah, one or the other. They had to call something. And I think the thing about it is normally, obviously, you know, you script your plays, you script your game plan.

I think they might not have practiced this in a very long time. Right. Because if they had, they would have regurgitated over and over. Make sure you check in and make sure you on the ball. That's on Jerry Goff. Jerry Goff got to say, hey, hey, Decker, you make sure you report. Hey, hey, official. 68, 68, 68.

Right, right, right. Now, you probably don't, hey, you got to do it in a quiet manner because you don't want the defense to know that he's eligible now because they're listening too. Mr. Ralph, 68 is eligible. Decker needs to go to him. Me, me. Say something, yeah.

Yes, yes. That's crazy. That's crazy. It was a good play call too. It was a great play call. It was a great play call. Oh, so you're not expecting no big-ass lineman to go catch him. Hell, no.

Especially not in that scenario. No. On a two-point conversion? No. Hell, no. And he kind of like semi-rolls away. So you're thinking, okay, we're going to see a sprint option to the right because he's a right-handed quarterback.

Now he fields up and he throws backside. Decker makes a great play. Excuse me. Because he catches the ball with his hands. So I just didn't like it. Look, I get it. Okay, the first time, Ocho, we didn't get it. So now they got to back us up.

Now I'm going to kick the field goal. And now I'm going to kick the PAT. I'm going to kick the PAT. I just am. Now I get it. You're like, okay, we're locked in. We're locked into the number three seed. I would like to have a chance to get the number two seed. I don't know if they have a chance. Did they have a chance to get it. You're like, okay, we're locked in. We're locked into the number three seed. I'd like to have a chance to get the number two seed.

I don't know if they had a chance. Did they have a chance to get it if they went out? I mean, they had to have a chance to get something in order to be going for two. Well, they're locked into the three seed because the NFC South winner can't get to 11 games, if I'm not mistaken. I think they're like eight and something, eight and seven. So I don't think they can get. The Buc eight and something eight and seven so i don't think they can get huh the bucks it's a buck right right right i don't they can't get to 11 wins so basically it's the 49ers the eagles and the cowboys now with a chance to get the number one

seed right but and that's only if that's only if the Eagles and the. The Eagles and the lose out. The Eagles and the 49ers. That's crazy. Hold on. ESPN just showed another angle. Jerry Goff literally sends Taylor Decker and tells him to report as eligible. But did the official see? Did he tell the officials?

Oh, my goodness. He's talking to the official and it seems to me that he's telling the official 68 is eligible. That better not be the case. Hold on. Wait a minute. Jared Goff can't tell him. The actual player

has to go check in, right? ESPN showed another angle. Jared Goff sends Decker to tell the official that he's reporting as eligible. Right. So Decker did report. That's what they're saying. I mean, the

angle is that Jared Goff literally sends Decker. Let me see. Okay. Somebody in trouble. Well, they got an out. The out is the receiver didn't line up on the ball. So we could have called. They would have had to throw a flag anyway.

Right, right. But that's not what you threw the flag. That's not what you called. Right. You can't say, oh, the guy was, oh, we could have called offside, but that's not what you call right you can't hey oh so you can't say oh the guy was uh uh we oh we could have called offside but that's not what you called you called holy right you should have thrown two fields we had an illegal formation and an illegal touching that way you cover yourself because sometimes you see it we have holding by the defense

that penalty is declined we have unnecessary roughness on the quarterback. That penalty is accepted. Accepted. Okay. You're covered. I see where you're going. Yeah. I see where you're going.

It was, like I said, I thought the Cowboys defense played okay. I thought the offensive line did a great job of protecting Jared Goff. Goff did not have a good night throwing the football. He was really good on the last drive. And then you see the last throw. He kind of aims it and he forces the tight end to try to go down. Maybe if he puts it on him and gives him an opportunity to turn in that situation. Oh, Joe, you want somebody to put the ball on you so you can turn.

You can turn up field. That's all you want. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe. Yeah, they got big they he's in the huddle he tells decker decker walks towards the official as to say i'm eligible so then the rest got the call wrong then they did they did oh both and he walks to the he walks to the referee he walks to the referee he leaves the huddle, walks to the referee and says something, now Brad, I think Brad

Jeffers, Brad somebody is the official, who is the referee Brad got some explaining to do when they go to the ref pool, when they go to the pool when he talks to the pool reporters, he's got some explaining to do because the because the reporters are going to see this and they're going to see him leave the huddle and go talk to the referee. So what excuse can he use? I don't know, but he's going to have some planning to do. You say, I mean, but. The tackle was still covered up anyway

so a flag would have had to been thrown they didn't throw a flag it's just like our defensive players just like when Bob Miller lined up offside they didn't throw the flag so it ain't no penalty we can only go by the penalty by what you call what you threw the flag on you threw

the flag saying the player was an illegal touching because he's an offensive lineman. You didn't say illegal formation and illegal touching. You can throw two flags. You can throw three flags. Right. They got some explaining to do, Ocho.

That's crazy. Brad Allen. And the fact that he did check in. You know what? And he also did Chiefs Packers. And we know how that did check in. You know what? And he also did Chiefs Packers. And we know how that played out down the stretch. Remember? They called Undesir Rubness on Patrick Mahomes when he was inbounds.

And then they missed the blatant pass interference. Interference. And they missed the blatant pass interference on Armond St. Brown. The dude grabbed him, and he got there before the ball had gotten there. Yeah. That's crazy. It's going to be very interesting. I'm anxious to see Brad Allen explains this because Jared Allen tells Taylor Decker to go to the official.

He leaves the huddle. He talking to the referee who is supposed to let him know. That's good. Oh, that's not a good look because, you know, ideas. They're already talking about. oh, it's scripted. Everything, oh, the... And you know what I'm saying? The one thing that... And that's why. The one thing that you can't have

is professional sports. You can't have it make people think it's WWE. Where the ending has already been scripted. Well, you know, when I think about it, and I think about the game of football or sports in general, it's hard to script things like this. You got 11 guys on the field.

You can't have everybody aligned on a certain script. All I need is the official. I just need the official. All I need, I don't need 11 guys. I just need one official. Didn't you see how Tim Donahue did it in the NBA? He didn't have a whole lot of receivers in cahoots. I just need to throw a flag at the most inopportune

time. You see how that flag changed the dynamic? I'm not saying that's what happened, but I'm saying, you see how they can do that? Okay, I see where you're going with it. I get what you're saying. Uh... with it. What'd you say? Right.

Right. Right. No, that's not what you do. You can't assume. He can't assume he can't assume that's crazy they brought a lineman in running onto the field so he possibly thought

that 70 was reporting which would have made 68 they had that confused because it was two linemen now and they looked like they were unbalanced because they had Right, right. Let me see the formation. Just go

to the formation. Let me see his formation. Alright, that's crazy. Because I want to see, did they go unbalanced or was it a natural formation? That left side might have been all right that's crazy because i want to see did he go m balance or whether the natural formation that over that that left side might have been might have been oil over so yeah i i just think the thing oh joe it was uh cd lamb had to have an outstanding day uh outstanding day because michael gallup got a lot of cardio in. The guy started the game, didn't get a target or a catch.

And he has the eighth highest cap hit. Yeah, that's unbalanced. It's a normal formation. You sure the receiver was off the ball on that side, wasn't he? He was. He X'd. He got to be on the ball. Okay, okay.

That's the X. Z is off the ball because normally the tight end's on the ball. And if the tight end's in the flex position, off the ball, now the Z has to step up. Okay, okay, okay. You right, you right, you right. So you got to have

six guys on the line. You have to have six guys on the line of scrimmage in order for it to be an eligible formation. So normally it's five down linemen and the X receiver. Okay. The Z receiver is off the ball. Unless the tight end backs up off the ball, then the Z receiver can go on. It's going to be very, very interesting. Ocho, this is the 10th game where he's been held 20 a few yards,

Michael Gallup. And remember at the beginning of the year, I said he didn't look the same last year. And I said, okay, it's going to be interesting to see because the second year is normally when the player looks like the original player

before the injury. He doesn't look the same, Ocho. He doesn't look the same, obviously.. He doesn't look the same, obviously. I don't think the opportunities are coming his way for him to really get into rhythm as he'd like. I don't think the trust in which Dak has to have in Gallup to be able to get open consistently and always be there for him, I don't think it's there like it once was when he was healthy.

There were some plays that I do remember last year in that first round. Yeah, he'll make a tough catch every once in a while. But we need consistency, especially the predicament, the situation that the Cowboys are going to be in. We need consistent play, especially at the number two position. We need consistent play from him. You traded Amari. You traded Amari, so Gallup was supposed

to replace Amari's production. I mean, he would. He is capable of doing so, but I think the injury hampered that. He was capable of doing so, but I think the injury hampered that. You know, it's very difficult to come back from ACL unless your last name Peterson.

Adrian Peterson is one of the few that came back. The way medicine is now, guys come back from ACL. It's medicine, but mentally it's different. If you look at guys that have ACL injuries, you look at them, look at how they walk. Look at how they walk. You're never really ever the same. You'll never be your true self, your true self. And obviously you have to get over that mental hurdle after getting injured too, willing to use that leg or that side of your body as opposed to the way you used to when you knew there was nothing wrong with you i think it's i think like you said it's more mental than anything because yeah with the way

medicine is now and the guys the way they rehab i mean guys are coming back i mean yeah that used to be a year and like i'm willing to give guys grace and says okay the first year back that's kind of the rehab year even though you're still playing but that next year you should be 100 you should be the player you were before you had that injury because you're completely ill now, Ocho. Everything is functioning. Everything is functioning. It's not that easy, huh? It's not

that easy. Especially, listen, I've never had an injury, so I'm really not the one to be sitting here talking about ACLs. I'm just talking about from experience and knowing those who I've been around, those that I've played with, and seeing them go through ACL injuries, they go through other soft tissue injuries and breaks, for that matter, and trying to come back or coming back and playing a year or two years later. And they would tell me, and I would always ask, you know, how you feel? It's like, man, I'm not the same.

I'm out there trying, but I'm having to compensate and overwork other areas to make sure I don't hurt myself again well I could understand that especially the first year back and so that's why I tend to give guys grace that first year because although you're back I'm saying that you're still figuring your body out okay right man because it's just like anything anytime you come back for an injury am I I going to be the same? Am I the same player? Once I get that hit, once I run that comeback, once I take that, absorb that blow. I'm like, man, I'm OK. Yeah, yeah, I can do this. I can do this. But I just think the thing is, they're going to have to make some decisions because he has the eighth highest cap here. You can't. And remember, they gave him the contract

even after he had torn the ACL. So they believed that he could come back and be what he once was or they wouldn't have given him that contract. Because when you get a contract, Ocho, yeah, I get it. You know, I'm giving you a contract based on what I believe you can do

because I've already paid you for what you've done. It wasn't like I'm trying, you know, well, I ain't getting paid. I just want to show what I can do and they're going to pay me moving forward. No, they're paying you all along. Now, moving forward over the next three, four or five years, this is what we can. We believe you can be. And this is the value that we're placing on that. Now, you can negotiate up or down or however you dare try to go down. You try to go up, but that's

what they're trying to do. But it's going to be very interesting, Ocho, to see what happens with this call because we've seen now a couple of years ago, we saw Hitchens. I think it was Hitchens that run over the tight end and they pick the flag up

because this is the second time something has happened shady between the lions and the cowboys. I've never seen somebody, the guy ran the guy over is blatant pass interference and they pick the flag up. So I'm sure Detroit is like, man, this is deja vu.

This bull job is happening all over again. So I'm sure, I'm sure the Detroit lions fans that's in the chat they said yep i remember i remember when hitches ran over the guy and they picked the flag up it was a big night for the cowboys i'm sure they didn't want to lose this game jimmy johnson goes into the ring of honor very very well very short career five years yeah super bowls yeah and i i read the thing where uh jimmy was uh jimmy jerry was saying he and jimmy really didn't have any problems about you know bro ain't nobody fired no back-to-back super bowl winning coach no back-to-back nba champion no back-to-back major

league manager that wins back-to-back championships. And you fired him. Emmitt Smith had just, you do realize that Emmitt is 24. Michael is 26. Troy is 27. I mean, Troy is 27. No. Emmitt is 24. Michael is 20.

Probably 26. Troy is like 26. Imagine, imagine if Eagles hadn't gotten in the way. Imagine if Jerry Jones hadn't gotten in his own way and allowed Jimmy Johnson just maybe not to be the face, but be the coach. And he was there for a few more years with that same team intact.

What you think would happen? How many Super Bowls you think they would have had? Think about it. Oh, okay. What they're saying is that Dan Campbell just said the explanation was 70 reported

and two people can't report. John Perry, ESPN officiating analyst, says that that's wrong. Two players can report as eligible. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Now, Dan Campbell said that's the explanation they gave him. Right.

But John Perry, the ESPN official who was an official in the NFL, said that's not true. Two people can report. Two can. Brad Allen, I'm anxious to hear what he has to say when the pool of reporters, let's see if we can get that, because he has to give, especially in a situation like this. Yeah, yeah.

Remember the Super Bowl? When the guy came forward and says, look, what we noticed is that the guy tried to, you know, Juju goes inside and when he tries to make a move to uncover away, the guy we saw the tug. So he had to explain why they threw the flag, especially in that critical

of a moment moment Brad I got a question go ahead if number 68 and 70 both report would both of them

actually be eligible to go out and catch a pass along with the receivers that are already lined up yep that's a that's a first for me and I've been playing for years what if I don't know that is a first for me.

And I've been playing for years. That is a first for me. Ocho, I don't know if you remember this, but what the Patriots was doing, they were taking, making offensive linemen ineligible, but making the running backs eligible in the playoff game against the Ravens.

And the NFL did that. They said, you're violating the rate against the ravens and the nfl did that they said you're violating the spirit that's not what the rule was intended for and so they get away with that and so that's what the coaches do they try to find a way to skirt okay they didn't say that we couldn't let's make them pay until they say we can't let's go ahead let's let's we can okay right because it's you know what it's easy to apologize than to ask for permission. If you know this old joke, you know what? I got you. You know what?

I didn't know. Plausible deniability. That's the term they like to use. I didn't know. The Cowboys win 20-19. Dak Prescott had a monster day. He was 26-38, 345, two touchdowns, So the Cowboys win 20-19. Dak Prescott had a monster day. He was 26-38, 345, two touchdowns, one interception.

C.D. Lamb, 17 targets, 13 catches, 227 yards, and one touchdown. And the second longest passing touchdown, pass play touchdown in Cowboy history, only behind the Dandy Don Meredith to Bullet Bob Hayes of 95 yards. Speaking of that 90, was it 92? It's 92 yards, right? 92, yes. Speaking of that, what was 55 doing on the whiff when he had an easy safety? You see, here's the thing.

You see, he tried to get the ball out. If you sack him, the ball might come out because he doesn't see you. You think he was trying to get the ball? He tried to forearm him because, see, that's the side Dak got the ball to. Right. So if I... The ball's going to come

out. Get him. Just put him on the... See, sometimes you try to do too much. He will. Overthinking. I thought when I watched the replay and I saw it, obviously on Twitter, I said well damn he's in the middle of here and he's out of control yeah he's out of control

he's just running all Dak did was just move his shoulder and you missed completely that means you're totally out of control he out there like a blind dog in a meat house Ocho the man right there he can smell Dak he out there like a what? blind dog in a meat house, Ocho. The man right there, he can smell that. He act like a what?

Blind dog in a meat house. You smell the meat, but you can't see a damn thing. So there's going to be a lot of questions. I think there are a lot more questions than answers from this ball game. But give the Cowboys credit. They hold on and win at home. Both teams are now 11-5. Cowboys win 20-19 after the Lions missed on three.

Two poor conversions in the ballgame to take a 21-20 lead. So give those guys, give the Cowboys credit. They found ways to make enough plays at the end. But we'll see. Who knows? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm excited.

I'm excited for this next topic. Allen is looking at it at the point and pointing out Skipper. Decker is obviously trying to tell him he's the one reporting. Replay showed Allen telling Campbell it was Savany who reported. And Campbell screams, no, it wasn't. Campbell said he gave the official a heads up pregame slow-mo replay show. Skipper saying,

I didn't say an effing word. Clearly they plan and they practiced it. Brad Allen, you don't get to announce. You have to listen. And a lot of times, and you notice this, Ochojo if you remember in the super bowl yeah sean payne told the official be on the alert we're coming with the own side right let them know

ahead of time let them know normally when you got a trick play or gadget play they'll give the officials the heads up to let them know okay right we we got a double, we got a double, hey, we got a lateral here coming. We got a lateral, so be on the lookout. It will be a lateral. It's not going to be a forward pass. Right. Let them know before the game. That's crazy.

I mean, that's – You see what they did, see, and the way they did it is that you send two linemen over there. So they're thinking, oh oh so 70 is over there and he said i thought it was 70 70 didn't say anything it was decker talking to you oh so now you now you're the referee you're not paying attention not paying attention because i gotta cause some confusion because the cowboys don't know they just see two linemen over there so they don't know which one is eligible and which one isn't. Right.

And normally, doesn't the ref have to announce that so-and-so is eligible, right? They normally, but I think they did away with that because now you're alerting the defense. See, you know what? I ain't played in so long. I just remember them always alerting and letting them know that that certain number of the

certain line was, was an eligible receiver. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. He said, Campbell also said that he ran this by them before the game.

It's pretty clear. Brad Allen saw Skipper coming in and just assumed he was the player that was going to be reporting. And the fact that dan campbell had that in his back pocket knowing that probably wasn't be for probably wasn't gonna be for a two-point conversion but just had that playing in his back pocket and knew they weren't running at some point in the game yeah that that's crazy normally think about it a play like that that's the play that i'm gonna end something yeah so you got this play on a third on a fourth

down a two-point conversion that's right play yeah because i gotta have a play in my back pocket that they don't know and they haven't seen it did you did you see that double screen that double screen that um who was that that Jordan Lewis picked off yeah that wasn't nothing but film studying right right formation recognition

that's the only way you know the gym how the hell you jumping the screen and they fake the screen going the complete opposite way

before they even came back to the opposite side that ain't that ain't nothing but film studying let me tell you how he used to run the screen hmm Alex Gill the offensive line coach rest in peace Alex To the opposite side. Let me tell you how he used to run the screen.

Alex Gill, the offensive line coach, rest in peace, Alex, used to always say bad things happen when you run the screen outside the numbers. That's why you teach them to stay inside the numbers. Right. You get outside the numbers, somebody can come clean your clock. Yeah. You get outside the numbers, somebody going to come and duck in because you want to be inside because the linemen.

The linemen are not going to be way outside the numbers. Where are the linemen going to be? You have to realize they got to catch, pretend like they're going to block. Now they got to throw and go. So now you're hoping, now you're inside the numbers. Now your tackle picks him off. Now you got the guard looking to peel back. Is anybody chasing?

I'm going to get in his way because I can't block behind the plate like we used to. Remember, that's the old crackback block. I'm just looking back just to get in his way. And if there's nobody chasing, okay, I'm looking to the inside because I know somebody could possibly be coming from the inside. So that's why

you set the screen up, especially from a running back that's coming out of the backfield. You stay inside the numbers. Bad thing. Go back and look at it and see where he was, and you'll understand, ladies and gentlemen, what I'm talking about. Ocho, we're going to get, this thing is taking a leg of its own.

The Russell Wilson caused the benching a low blow. The Broncos could, the Broncos handling of Russell's situation. Some people have said the handling of Russ' situation makes free agent not want to go there. Free agent's going to go because if they're offering the most money, they're going to go. Money, yeah.

Listen, players are always going where the money go. Thank you. Players are always going where the money is. Let's stop that. But again, I said it when we talked about it

on the last show. Yep. It was a bunch of bullshit. Yep. It was a bunch of bullshit. For one, the way Sean Payton acted when he berated Russell on the sideline. It was a bunch of bullshit. Yep. It was a bunch of bullshit for one, the way Sean Payton acted when he berated

Russell on the sideline. I think he wanted, he was trying to bait him. Yeah. He was trying to bait him. He was trying to bait him and trying to get him to react. If I could just get him to react,

if I can get him, if I could rattle him and here goes another reason on why the benching is coming. When all along it had been planned already for the simple fact that I had no idea

until the story came out. Well, we came to me, we just beat the Kansas City Chiefs. What you mean you want me to remove the injury clause in my contract? And then the part that I don't like is Sean Payton saying,

well, I don't know anything about that. Sean, you have total control, bro. Come on now. Why do they do that? They're paying you $18 million for a reason now. Come on now. Ocho. Had they gone, had they gone, even after they had beaten Kansas City and says

if you do not remove this injury clause from your contract, we're going to bench you. But they let him win another game and another game and another game and they didn't bench it. Now, Russ has struggled the last couple of games. So you can make the argument,

say, well, I'm benching him because he's playing bad. But no, you didn't bench him when he was playing good. So if the injury clause was that big of a deal, why not go ahead and bench him in October? Why not go ahead and bench him in october why not go ahead and bench him at the beginning of december i mean beginning of november why you wait till now yeah

see that's the problem that see even though you can make the case that he and i don't believe that's the case but you can make the case that he's benching him because he's playing bad all the people here is that you told him that if he didn't remove the clause, I'm going to bench him. And you didn't bench him when you was winning one, two, three, or four games. So the injury couldn't have been that big of a deal. It only became a deal once you started to lose.

Yeah, and I think on their end, they were trying to see as far as the turnaround goes and they were on a winning streak. I'm not sure what the playoff implications might've been for the Broncos during that time, during that period, you know,

around October to now, I think they wanted to wait and see and knowing Russell and knowing the kind of person he is, he's not the type that ownership would have to worry about him playing hurt or saying, Oh, there's something wrong with me just to make sure that injury clause or that money, he gets it. They know he's not even like that.

They know he's not built like that. That's not his character. So there's really nothing for him to worry about, which is why, you know what? We can go ahead. He's safe. He's safe. We ain't got nothing to worry about. We can go ahead and play him anyway and see what happens and see where we go.

Mm-hmm. But this is what we do know. We know this guy leaked from somebody on that side. The Broncos ain't leaked this. Oh, they always do that. They do that on purpose. Because you know, first of all, Ojo, the Broncos are not going to leak this

because this makes them look terrible. Makes them look awful. Right, right. So, and my thing is, look, Sean, I believe, I don't believe Sean ever liked Russ. I don't believe he didn't look at- It's not his quarterback. Right, yeah.

It's not his quarterback. He wasn't there when he came there. Ownership as well. Right. They didn't bring Russ in. They didn't do the deal. But they were in the process. They could have held up on giving Russ this contract.

Russ had another year on his contract. The reason why Russ left Seattle is because Pete weren't going to do this contract. Russ had another year on his contract. The reason why Russ left Seattle is because Pete weren't going to do this deal. Right. And so his agent started leaking, oh, I'll go to Chicago, I'll go to these places, I'll go to that place. And then when they asked Russ, that wasn't true. All the while,

that was true. Now, Seattle's not going to do the deal. Okay, where can we go and extrapolate as much draft capital as we can to first round of the second round the third round of players the Broncos because the Broncos all of a sudden were starting to get desperate they hadn't been to the playoffs last one to Super Bowl 2015 the beginning of 20 right so now they're starting to get desperate we need a quarterback we need a quarterback And so they give this up for us.

But in the process of doing this, I mean, he said, Russ don't need to be kissing babies. You never told Drew that. Think about what Drew is in the community. Drew is beloved in New Orleans. How did he become that? He had to get out into the community and to ingratiate himself. But you never told Drew Brees that.

Kissing the babies? He never told Drew Brees that he needs to stop kissing babies. He never said that. And I commend Drew for ingratiating himself in the community. Take the hat off. Kudos. Yeah. He's been

a staple. He's donated money out of his own pocket. His foundation has been sensational in the city of New Orleans. So now for you to say that, why are you worried about what I'm doing? Your job is to coach. As long as it's not taking any weight from my study time, as long as it's not taking any weight from my game time, it's not like I'm kissing babies during the game. I couldn't get the playoff because I was kissing a baby. You see? Now, all the time, Sean Payton make it seem like they was going to the playoffs every year because there have been some times that Sean Payton was going 7-9.

And he wasn't yelling and kicking and screaming and drew breezes for you. No. You know, I think, you know, I would hate to say it's personal, but I just think it almost seemed personal with the way he was acting. Yeah. Soon as he got there, soon as Sean Payton got there, obviously through the media, you hear some of the things he was saying, some of the things that Russ is not going to be able to do as opposed to what he did when he was in Seattle. Right. And he was undermining him, undercutting him, trying to let him know he's a big dog.

Yeah, he's a new sheriff in town. And that's very, very unfamiliar territory for a head coach to do as quarterback like that. Season ain't even goddamn started yet. He's trying to come in, Ocho, and trying to say, there's a new sheriff in town. I'm in control. Like, you know, Captain Phillips. When they took the boat over and he said, Captain Irish, look at me. Look at me.

I'm the captain. So now Sean Payton says, you know what you had? Russ, look at me. I'm the captain now. You know what I hate, Ocho? See, it takes a really special type of person to have power and not to abuse it. Now, if you

really want to know the measure of a person, give him power. Give him power and see how he or she behaves. That and money. See, here's the thing with money. See, money doesn't change you. Money makes you more what you already are. If you're a jerk, you become an asshole when you get money. See, money doesn't change.

People are like, oh, money changed. No, it wasn't. He been like that. But he didn't have the capital. He didn't have the resources to really show you who he was. Yeah. People that are cool, they've been cool even before they got money. Yeah.

Money didn't change them. Money makes you more what you already are. Power corrupts. Absolute power absolutely corrupts. Yeah. And you see, I hate when people have to constantly remind you, OK, you know, I can have your job, bro. I know you over me. I know you the boss. You don't have to constantly remind me that you can have my job because it's going to come a point in time. I'm going to say you can take this job and you know what with it. You don't have to constantly remind me.

I know you're the head coach. I know you're the general manager. I know you do the hiring and firing. And I'm sure there are people, I'm talking about NFL terms, but I'm sure there are people out there in the chat that have been in situations where you have a boss constantly remind you, I'm your boss. I'm over you. You know I can do this. I know I can do that.

Yeah, most definitely. People that work in the corporate world, people that work nine to fives, people that work whatever business it is and you're in a position of power and you abuse it all the time obviously belittling whether it be co-workers whether it be people below you because you're in that position but one thing that always happens is those tables always turn at some point those tables always turn at some point all the time and i like the fact about what you just said. Money doesn't change people. It just allows them to be seen. Now you get to become your authentic self.

Yeah, I like that. No, he didn't. He been a jerk. Yeah. He just became an asshole once he got money. He or she became an asshole and got money. Yeah, I like that. So what would that, if I was cheap before I got money

and then I got money and became cheaper, what does that really make me? You're always cheap. You see, money didn't change you. See, people thought once you got money, you gonna start spending. You was always miserly. You were always frugal. You was always thrifty. You see, money didn't change you. You are always frugal. You was always thrifty. You see, money didn't change you. You are

what you are. Money makes you more about what you already are. You see? If you think about Ocho, if you got a problem, money exacerbates that problem. You know what? I used to smoke a little weed, and then you branch out. You go to

the heavier stuff. Because now, you know, a little 5 and 10, you know, a little joint, a little 5 and then you branch out. You go to the heavier stuff because now you don't have a little 5 and 10, a little joint, a little 5 and 10 bag. Now you can go get some OZ. Now you can get your pound. You see that, Ocho? Remember guys in college, when they drinking that bootleg stuff, that Shaper,

the Mickey's, they drinking that Rock Good or Everclear. Now you get some money, you go get the good stuff, don't you, Ocho? And then you get it in abundance. You see? Yeah. It didn't change you. That's what you were. You just didn't

have the means to live how you really wanted to live. You see? Empower. It's like a parent to a child. You have all the power. It takes a special type of person not to abuse that child. You see, Ocho? Yeah, yeah. You see? you see yeah i like you know people like with shannon you could i like to give analogies and that people could like understand and you see sometimes you see people that abuse their child

because they have all their all the authority yeah and then you take you to like, oh, I can do this. You can, but why would you? That's the thing to be able. Look, I was the captain. I knew I had certain types of, I have certain types of privileges, but to have those privileges and not to abuse them,

use them. It takes, also, it takes a special type of a person to have certain types of power and not abuse them. It takes a special type of a person to have certain types of power and not abuse them. We see that in a lot of different areas that people have powers

and they'll abuse them. Because why? I am in a role of authority. And so I hate this for us. Like I said, I believe had they just went ahead and said, okay, you know, hey, we're going to bench you. We wouldn't have known.

Hey, you could have benched me when they started 1-4. Oh, when they started 1-4, that was the perfect time. So I guess they didn't think he could get hurt when they're 1-4. They start to win. They're like, well, okay, we got a chance. Now you start to lose again.

Now this is the opportunity. So my thing, he said they came to have to go back, look at the game. When did they beat Kansas City? He said they beat Kansas City. They go into the bye. They came to him, said if he doesn't do something about the clause in his contract, they're going to bench him. What was that?

Was that November? It had to be. I think it was October, if I'm not mistaken. October 29th. Yeah, yeah. So you go all of November. You don't think Russ could get hurt then. You go down there the entire December.

Now with two games to go, you say, hey, Russ might get hurt. So what? Do they got different? Was they not playing? Maybe they were AI players over there. And so it's like computer generated. So they can't follow Russ. They can't hit Russ. Russ couldn't injure himself then, but he can now. You see?

It's a bad excuse for one. Management knows what they're doing. You know what you're doing. Why not just be honest? Why not just be honest? Why not just be honest? Listen, we send your ass down because we don't want you to be able to get this money. Right.

That's it. Period. You know, just dry and cut. Save the people the whole we benching them because of this and oh, you're not playing well. But what? Why even lie?

Right. And you got Sean Payton coming out saying, well, anything concerning or due to the... I don't know anything about. don't know anything about that has that has to do with contract like come on man what are we doing man what are we doing and I I said somebody I saw I saw a tweet they said um Russell Wilson to the I said the Steelers I said the Steelers I said you got Russell Wilson you have a he is a a per playoff quarterback. He's won a Super Bowl going to the Pittsburgh Steelers that has what? A perennial playoff head coach, a coach that has won Super Bowls.

Well, shit, that's a motherfucking match made in goddamn heaven. You know, in the standard of the Steelers, the excellence that in which they have always upheld for many of years, Super Bowls, why not have Russell come and play quarterback? Well, the Falcons can use a quarterback with Drake London. Don't do that to him. Don't do that. I love Drake London, but we talk about a team. We talk about making a run for another Lombardi. Why not put Russell on a team that,

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He got 30, what, 30-something, 39 million fully guaranteed next year. Right. He gets the double dip for the simple fact, I'm sure he doesn't have a clause where it says, you know, we're going to offset that. So whatever you get somewhere else, we'll take it away from here.

The Patriots. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do him like that because now you're naming teams where everything is on his shoulders. He got to carry everything.

He got to carry everything. Ocho, if you go to Pittsburgh, you got to carry everything. He got to carry everything. Ocho, if you go to Pittsburgh, you got to carry everything. Because you said they're ready to compete for a Super Bowl. So you're saying the quarterback is the missing piece. Is it not? But I'm saying. Is it not? So let me ask you a question.

What's the difference between he and Aaron Rodgers? What was going to be on Aaron Rodgers' shoulders in the Jets? Because we said we got a Super Bowl defense. We got Crystal. We got Garrett Wilson. We got players to go make plays. We got Brees Hall. Is everything

not on his shoulders? Yeah, but Aaron Rodgers can shoulder that load. I think Aaron Rodgers can shoulder that load. He's one of the few players he's one of the best all time. He ain't shouldered nothing. His shoulder's gonna be in a sling.

Yeah, that too. But I just, to me, it just makes much more sense as opposed to the other places. You know, Atlanta, everything is on Russ. Like, he has to do it all. He has to do it all.

And then you, who was the other team you said? You said the Patriots? Yeah. Man, hell nah. Hold on., who was the other team you said? You said the Patriots? Yeah. Man, hell no. Hold on. How about this here? What about Minnesota? Justin Jefferson.

Madison. Now we're talking. Osborne. Hawkinson. Even though Hawkinson towards ACL, he'll be... You said Addison already, huh? Yeah, Addison. Yeah, Jordan Addison. Now I look at you. Now you're talking. Now you're talking. I like that.

But listen, I also like goddamn Pickens and Deontay Johnson and Najee Harris with that defense that the Steelers have. You like him better than Jefferson? Which one you like better than Jefferson? Deontay Johnson or Pickens? Which one you like better than Jefferson? So hold on. Justin Jefferson and Addison versus Pickens and Deontay Johnson or Pickens which one you like better than Jefferson so hold on Justin Jefferson and Addison

versus Pickens and Deontay Johnson it's Justin Jefferson it's Addison it's KJ Osborne also they got three and they got Hawkinson KJ Osborne number 17 right with the dreads boy that boy nice boy and they got Hawkinson a tight end who had like

90 catches before he got injured he just got hurt, man. Damn. But he'll be back next year. Yeah. Hey, them boys. Nice. Hey, them boys.

Nice. So who would you give the edge to? Let's say if Russ had a choice. You would you go to the Steelers? You go to Minnesota? Minnesota. Minnesota. Because guess what?

Wait, but Kirk Cousins is coming back next year. Kirk Cousins is calling the contract up. He ain't coming back. But anyway, check this out, Ocho. Check this out, Ocho. Plus, I get nine games in a dome. Detroit's a dome, and I'm a dome. In Pittsburgh, you outside.

In Pittsburgh, it's weather. Baltimore, it's weather. Cincinnati, it's weather. Cleveland, it's weather. Well, you know, it don't get that bad just the last month. December, you know, that's football weather. It ain't that bad. It ain't that bad.

My home game, it don't never get bad in the dome. You ever seen it snow in the dome? Rain in the dome? Wind in the dome? Yeah. Wait a minute. Okay, what's in that division? You got the Vikings?

You got the Vikings, Chicago, Lions, and the Packers. I don't know. got the Vikings. You got the Vikings, Chicago, Lions, and the Packers. I don't know. I mean, you want to deal with Lamar? You want to deal with Lamar? You want to deal with Burrow? Listen, to me, as a competitor, as a competitor that I am, I would like to be in the AFC North.

The toughest division in football. That's just me. Let me ask you a question. What trophy do you get to put on your mound and say, we won the toughest championship ever? None. I just want to play against the best. That's all.

Oh, they got good players in the NFC North. Yeah, they do. They do. I'm just saying, just for me. I'm just, listen, I'm hypothetically speaking. I'm not playing. I'm not a quarterback. I'm just saying I would like to be in the AFC North.

I know times have changed. Times are different now. You can't even play football. They playing two-hand touch today anyway. But, yo, Minnesota would be a good luck, though. To me, I like what you're saying, but I would prefer and like to see Russ with the Steelers. And this is coming from a bangle, unfortunately.

Player bonuses. We see players getting their bonuses. We saw Josh Allen, Joe Flacco, Dee Hop, some of the other guys. We just picked a few. Dee Hop with 61 catches for 939 yards. Hopkins has made 500,000 per yardage. If he reaches 950,

that escalates to 750. If he gets 65 catches, he'll make another quarter of a mil. Joe Mixon with nine total touchdowns, eight rushing, one receiving. He needs one more to make a quarter of a million. Like it. I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with Joe Flacco.

Joe Flacco's getting off his couch. You know, he can't make $17, $18, $19 million. So you put in incentives. Okay, you win a game, we'll give you $75,000. You take it to the playoffs, we'll get another this. D-Hop. D-Hop had to take a pay cut, you know, one year. So let me get some incentives in there.

Joe Mixon. Remember, Joe Mixon took a big pay cut to stay in Cincinnati. Okay, Joe, we'll get you an opportunity to make some of that money back. Now, Josh Allen, I got a problem with that. What you mean you get a million dollars, get to the Super Bowl you win the Super Bowl bro you making a quarter of a billion you should do that right right right right right right

if Joe Blacko had that in his contract it is a nice incentive though Ocho you making a quarter of a billion what shouldn't you do you should do all of that right I mean you gotta put it in there. You got to put it in there.

Let me ask you a question then. If I got to put these incentives in there, what am I paying you a quarter of a billion for then? You know what? I think whether they're paying him that million dollar incentive anyway, his end goal as a quarterback for the Buffalo Bills is to get them that Lombardi.

That's why I gave you a quarter of a billion because I believe you can do that. You think I would have gave you a quarter of a billion if I didn't think you could do that? Right. You think they would give a quarter of a billion to Trevor Simeon? Why? Because they don't believe you can do that. You think they would give a quarter of a billion to Zach Wilson? Why?

Yeah. Don't talk about Zach like that. But I'm just saying, Ocho. Don't do that. I understand. I'm saying to you,'m saying oh baby thank you when i was uh earlier in my career i had you know i was seventh round draft pick so yeah you know i had incentive i had incentives put in my contract but once i once i came no once i became what i was no i don't need no incentives i'm supposed to lead

the team in receiving i'm supposed to lead the team in catches i'm supposed to lead the team in receiving I'm supposed to lead the team in catches I'm supposed to lead the team in receiving yards we're supposed to make the playoffs I believe I'm bad no I don't want no 50,000 or 100,000 for making the Pro Bowl I'm the best tight end in football I'm supposed to make the Pro Bowl

I'm supposed to be first team all pro hold on hold on you saying you don't want the incentive? No! Oh, nah. You tripping. Oh, hell no. You tripping. I want my incentives. Give me my money. I want my incentive. I want my incentive. Oh, you want all

your money up front? I want my money. Give me my money. Because all those things incentive, because you're going to take it from somewhere else. You're going to take it. See, you make me think you give me incentives, but you took it out of my base salary anyway, because I could have got an extra all those things in the city because you're going to take it from somewhere else. You're going to take it. See, you make me think you're giving me a city but you took it out of my base salary anyway

because I could have got an extra $300,000, $400,000. You say, well, this is what we'll give you and then you make me think you, oh, I'm going to get this but I'm going to get this. No.

You think y'all slick? Yeah, okay. I see where you're going. I see where you're going. I see where you're going because they are pulling it from somewhere else trying to pretend like

it's extra money. Extra. It's my money to begin with. Yeah, okay. I got you, I got you, I got you. I got you. You're right, you're right. I don't know why I let that slip my mind

not really remembering that if they are giving you incentives, the incentives are coming from somewhere else, coming from what they were already going to pay you any goddamn way. It's like, Ocho, you drop $100. I find it, I give you $50 back. Oh, man, I appreciate that, man.

I appreciate that. Oh, man, good looking out. It was already your money. I only gave you half of what you was supposed to get anyway. Yeah, you're right. Georgia dominates Florida State in the Orange Bowl 60-point route. Last year, remember, in the college football championship game, they beat TCU 65-7.

Follow that up with a 63-3 route of Florida State. It's also the largest margin of victory of the AP top five opponent by the AP in the poll era. And the poll era goes back to 1936. Yeah, everybody was complaining. Everybody from Florida State

was complaining when they didn't make the playoffs. Obviously, with me not watching as much college football as I should, I really didn't understand it, but I did know that the quarterback was out, the starting quarterback was hurt. Yeah, a lot of guys sat out.

The best defensive lineman, the best wide receiver, a couple of the running backs. So, if all those players that sat out played today, would it have made a difference? I don't believe they beat Georgia. I don't believe. They're probably not 63-3.

It would have been a closer game then. They'd probably lose by 21, not 60. You think so? Yeah. But they didn't have that quarterback. The starting quarterback is hurt. Exactly. So they lose by 21-28. I mean, we'll never know.

The committee is the happiest because the committee says, see, but they say, well, if we don't, who knows? Maybe Michigan is not as talented as Georgia. Maybe all of our players play in the college football player. We'll never know. But the college football committee gets to say see told y'all they were unworthy it is what it is ojo that's crazy did you see this one more question before

we leave a lot of these players opting out and not want not willing to play in the bowl game. Like, if you, like, do you have a problem with players doing that that are not day ones? Not, especially if I got a first-round grade. I'm talking about your day ones. If I got a first-round grade on me, Ochoa. I understand. I mean, but some, if you look at Bryce Young,

Bryce Young played last year against Kansas State in the Sugar Bowl, and he was a projected number one I mean normally Alabama players Georgia players I don't think Brock Bowers, I don't think he played today did Brock Bowers play today? I don't think he played today but for the most part

Alabama and Georgia players normally play I think this is the first time that I didn't see Brock Bowers because if you look at all those number one picks that they had on the defense over the last two years, those guys all played Alabama players normally play. But you're going to get a lot of this. So now when you go to 12 teams,

now that's more games there. At least when you only got 14, there's only a, you know, you get one chance or two chances. You don't probably have to play three games. So, I mean, that's a good thing. It's a good thing.

So they get, they get the teams right. They get it right this time instead of people complaining about we should have made it. It should have been us. And you get a shellacking like you did today.

There's really no argument. And the only argument that those that are Florida State fans can say is, well, look how many people we had out. Right. Right. I agree. I agree, Ocho. But you know, the thing is, we'll never know.

Yeah. We'll never know. You see the ref, Roy and Go James birthday. He hit that step back three. And they talk about he had a toe on the line. I saw the I saw an image and his toe wasn't on the line. And obviously, if they went back to replay, how could they not?

Can they reverse that or no? No. It's over now. It's in the books. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just saying, at that time though, I didn't watch the game. I'm just saying, at that time, can you replay it and reverse the call? Yes. They could have said, because if you look at it, Ocho,

the moment he let the shot go, the official put two fingers down saying it's a two-pointer because they're thinking he's on the line. They go to the replay. Now, had the replay showed it was. The question in the pool report says, why was James shot with 2.3 second play ruled a two-pointer instead of a three? The play was ruled a two-pointer

on the goal on the floor, live. After the video review, there wasn't a clear conclusive evidence to overturn it from a two to a three. That's why it stood as a two-point. But it was. His foot was behind the line, Tony. His foot was behind the line.

That's why you have replay. what you mean it wasn't conclusive you see how confusing basketball is you see what I mean obviously the foot was behind the line I saw the replay I don't even watch the game that much but I can clearly see it was a three pointer yeah I mean

from when he shot it I was was like, man, that's going to be close. The ref cheating. The ref cheating. I said it was going to be close, but when they showed it down and they blew up the angle, his foot was behind the line. Yeah.

They cheating. That ain't nothing but Vegas. It's close close i can see i can see why i believe had they called a three on the floor i believe they just said it was a three i said you like you said it's not enough uh of conclusive it's not definitive so you know what we're gonna go with the call that we called on the floor. So, I thought we were going to go into overtime because last year on his birthday,

he had a monster game against Atlanta. Yeah. But hey, still happy 39th birthday, LeBron. Go James, as I referred to you as, having an unbelievable season. Again.

Again. I told you about a story where I played in one-on-one when it was with the Heat. And you beat him? Yeah. He told you? No. Yeah, you got... I'm waiting for to put it in your documentary. I'm waiting

for you to put it in your documentary. I ain't gonna do all that because I really ain't supposed to. I wasn't supposed to tell nobody, but I mean, obviously what you said, we had this. This is about sharing stories. I just thought I would share a story about what I'm beating. When you were in high school, that's why you had no women, because you go kiss and tell.

You! I ain't had no women in high school because I was focused on playing football in my grade, in my books. You go kiss and tell? Nah. How you going to be mad because I beat LeBron one-on-one? No, I'll be mad. You told me you weren't supposed to tell nobody.

That's what the girl told you. The girl said I wasn't supposed to show the footage. I didn't show the footage, so I'm just telling you what happened. That's what I'm saying. You told. See, the girl said,

oh, I'm going to do this this time because I don't normally do this. Don't tell nobody. Okay. And what you do, as soon as you do that, you're going to tell the homies. I don't go tell nobody.

I ain't had no homies back then. You just told me. All my homies was do that, you go tell the homies. I don't go tell nobody. I ain't had no homies back then. No, you told me. All my homies was, well, you ain't my homie. We partners. But you were supposed to, some things, look here, some things supposed to be

Nobody said I wasn't supposed to tell you. I mean, it's okay. I know you like LeBron. I beat him. That's it. I beat him. That's nothing.

I mean, he's a great- But you said you weren't supposed to tell nobody. I said that? Yeah. But it's his birthday. Why wouldn't supposed to tell nobody I said that yeah but it's his birthday why wouldn't I let people know I beat him one on one

why wouldn't I why wouldn't I tell you that that's a great story something that's a great story the chat the chat would love to hear that you know what

I can tell you what happened I can tell you how I scored every time my grandfather was right you know what he said Ocho what two people can keep a secret but one of them needs to be dead.

Who said that? Am I correct? Hold on. I like that. Two people can keep a secret, but one of them needs to be dead. Two people can keep a secret, but one of them needs to be dead. I like that. Fan question. Alexander said,

Shannon, you yourself on Twitter said that the receiver didn't line up over the ball. I said that, but I'm not an official. He didn't throw the flag on the receiver. Right. It doesn't matter what I said. I say a lot of things. And I'm right a lot of times. But the official didn't throw the flag.

He said it was an illegal touching. They could have said, we have two fouls on the flag. He said it was an illegal touching. They could have said, we have two fouls on the offense. We have an illegal formation. The wide receiver didn't cover up the lineman, and we have an illegal touching by the lineman. That's what could have happened.

But they didn't do that. And we've seen it. we've seen them throw two flags three flags on the defense we have an offsides on the defense that penalty is declined we have a holding by the defense that penalty is also declined

we have a personal foul roughing the quarterback on the defense that penalty is accepted. 15 yards, first down. That's all their officials had to do. We have two fouls on the defense. One, we have an illegal formation.

Two, we have illegal touching also on the offense. He only threw one flag. Okay. Hopefully, I cleared that up for you Alexander H-E-D said Uncle Nocho love the show I'm a die hard Cowboys fan I'll take the W but do y'all think

these refs should be held accountable for the horrible calls like the players are for hits yes it's ridiculous at this point but again everything is enforced by the committee. Every every then you got to think when one coach complains about one thing or a competition committee installs certain rules or certain things that you have to watch and abide by. And then one coach complains about holding or they send videos in, then it ramps everything up.

Then the refs get overly, overly zealous with all the goddamn calls. Yeah. To the point where the game is to the point where in a minute they're going to be playing two-hand touch. I promise you in a minute they're going to be playing two-hand touch because you can't hit nobody. You can't hit the receivers. You can't hit the quarterback.

The running backs are getting fined for actually running the football. You're supposed to run the football and it's a contact sport. Oh, you can't lower your head. So I'm just supposed to... You're supposed to run upright? That makes no sense. You're supposed to run behind

your pad. Yeah, I'm going to lower my head. Man, it's... Listen, I love the game of football. I love the fact that they're trying to protect the players, but we're doing too much. We're losing the true definition of what the game of football is.

Especially at the highest level. I just think the thing is, the NFL is just so cheap. These guys have regular jobs. They're not full-time officials. Wait, for real? No. They have regular jobs. They're bankers. They're lawyers. They're doctors. They have different, they have all, you

know, financial. So they like to play. It's a side job. They move like, they're not like MLB. They're not like basketball. They do that full-time. This is not their full-time job. Now, they do, supposedly, when you have so many

blown calls, obviously they're going to move you down or you won't get the playoff games. You don't get the Super Bowl, things of that nature. But, hey, we need to know who y'all docked. Y'all let the players know. I mean, the fans know

who got fined. We might not let the players know. I mean, the fans know who got fined. You can't do that. We might not even see the hit, but y'all still find them and they find out. So I want to know who had a bad call, who got a bad grade. I mean, we know who the bad grades are, but I don't think they would expose the referees

like that. They have to deal with the fans, the fans heckling. Hey, what's the famous NBA ref? I know about him. The famous NBA ref who always go at it with Chris Paul. Oh, Scott Foster. Hey,

them two need a documentary together, man. They always going at it. They funny. They are. Huh? they always going at it they funny they are uh huh hey remember back in the days when all the NFL players used to have regular jobs

yeah yeah yeah I do yeah they got they weren't making no money they got jobs in the off season yeah that's crazy so basically he said,

Allen is saying the Lions are lying. What? Yeah, he said 70 because 70 reported as eligible and he was covered up on the line of scrimmage. That makes him,

that makes it an illegal formation. So number 70 is in an illegal position because he's covered up by rule and 68 catches the passes, which is also illegal. Something ain't right. Something ain't right. I mean, we'll never know because 70 didn't say anything. Somebody need to go back to the rule book.

Well, he said 70 reported as eligible. 70 said he didn't say an effing word right so that's a classic plausible deniability he said

he said so and you know the NFL is gonna side with the official because that makes them look terrible

if every time right uh I am underscore tough said first off happy new year

to Uncle Nocho this is TJ from Cincinnati TJ that's who's no TJ he says do y'all think sports betting changed the game forever the Lions won that game no they've always bet on sports

it was bet before it was legal what the NFL found a way is to benefit. Monetize. Let's get in bed with FanDuel. Let's get in bed with DraftKings. Let's get in bed with ESPN. So it's just like alcohol.

Once the government found out, states found out a way, hold on. You mean to tell me we can tax it? Okay. You don't need to bootleg it. What do they do with marijuana? Once they found out they can tax it. You don't need to bootleg it. What do they do with marijuana? Once they find out they can tax it, we don't need to outlaw marijuana.

At the end of the day, especially the NFL, obviously, you know, at the bottom line, the bottom line is always about making the dollars. The bottom line is always about making money.

So when they figured out a way where they can monetize, especially gambling, okay, we can get a piece. It's all about money at the end of the day and you think wait until they allow players to smoke weed when they figure out a way to monetize that they did that oh joe they let the player smoke weeds now the nanograms they lowered the nanograms so you see what y'all did see what the players did they thought the nfl the

owners really cared about them smoking weed they didn didn't give a damn. Let me tell you what they didn't give up. Guaranteed contracts. What they did also didn't give up. Lifetime health benefits. You see, you waste your time bargaining for petty privileges. Now, Roger Goodell said when he signed his contract, he wanted lifetime health benefits. So you mean to tell me the commissioner

ain't never took a hit, ain't never had a concussion. He want lifetime benefits, but you want to be able to smoke weed in your off time you see how they did that wait they passed that

they can smoke weed yeah they lowered the nanograms cause you know it used to be you had a threshold they lowered that you great

we smoke a little weed we don't care but I tell you what we not gonna give you keep your eye on the keep your eye on the ball, Ocho. Keep your eye on your luggage in case something transpires.

You bargaining for petty privileges. You don't want to practice. Ocho, I don't want to practice twice a day. I want to have meetings. Okay. See, they don't want to practice. They ain't mention nothing about no lifetime benefits. Keep it going. They want to smoke a little weed. Oh, yeah, we'll let y'all smoke some weed. They ain't mention nothing about no guaranteed money. They ain't mention nothing about no lifetime benefits. Keep it going. Right, right, right, right. They want to smoke a little weed. Oh, yeah, we'll let y'all smoke some weed.

They ain't mention nothing about no guaranteed money. They ain't mention nothing about no franchise tag. You see what I did, don't you? Yeah, I see what I did. Weed ain't a benefit to the players. Weed? You mean to tell me you would rather not have a guaranteed contract than to smoke weed?

You mean to tell me you would rather not have lifetime benefits as opposed to practice twice a day? Really? That's a crazy fight though. That's a crazy fight. When you think about it, guaranteed contracts would be a crazy fight and that's one where we just talked about where everybody

got to be on the same page and willing to sit the fuck out. They got on the same page for that weed. They got on the same page for smoking weed, didn't they? They got on the same page and willing to sit the fuck out if necessary. They got on the same page for that weed. They got on the same page for smoking weed, didn't they? They got on the same page about practice. I think everybody was on the same page about smoking weed because I think so many people do it. You ever smoke weed?

I don't mean to be in your personal business. You ever smoke weed before? I don't need no weed. But I tell you what, Ocho, even if I smoke the ounce, two ounces a day, you be the teller, you're going to give me my whole contract. So I signed a $50 million contract. Right. And I'm going to get all $50 million of that. And I just couldn't smoke weed between this time.

Yeah. What type of fool do you think I am? That's easy, though. Thank you. That's easy. I mean, you know what? I really can't answer that because it's hard for me to, it's easy for me to say, oh, it's easy not to do something when I've never done it. That's like I said, well, it's hard for me not to drink alcohol.

Well, shit, you paying me $50 million not to drink? Well, I already don't drink, so it's easy. Guess what? But what about the people that have a problem that can't stop from smoking weed? Okay. Guys like to go out. Why they don't go out the night before the game? Well, you can't. You get in trouble. You can't stop from smoking weed. Okay. Guys like to go out. Why they don't go out the night before the game? Well, you can't. You get in trouble. You can't. You absolutely

can't. Oh, you can get in trouble. You get in trouble for smoking weed, you see? Guys do what they want to do. Right. What's important to you? You see, to get to the NFL, a lot of guys had to deny themselves, deny their friends, deny things that they really like to do

because what was most important? Right. Getting to the league. You see, it's not that complicated, though, Joe. And I get it. Oh, you should be able to smoke weed. Okay, smoke weed. You can do all the stuff that you want to do

once I get all the people money. If I'm in the NBA, I'm in the major leagues, I'm in the NFL, whatever they say I can't do, I'm going to wait until I get all y'all money. I'm going to get $300, $400, $500 million. Just think about that. Shohei Ohtani got a $700 million contract, and the only thing

he got to do, he can't smoke no weed for like two months. Y'all see how dumb that sound people in the chat? But y'all quick to holler let that man do what he want to do let him live his life right and it's i i don't know i i i'm not i really can't even and talk really speak on that subject when it comes to weed or alcohol or any of the paraphernalia or the the fun things that people like to add add in their life because i don't i don't I'm kind of lame in that

sense but it's something about even when I played it's something about weed where everybody was doing it it seemed everybody I don't know if they had to do it I don't know if they were addicted to it or were just part of maybe a stress reliever or they just got a sense of peace from it

I mean to each his own. Yeah, same thing I say. For me, I would rather have all of us have lifetime health benefits. Right, yeah, most definitely. Because everybody ain't going to make $100 million. Everybody ain't going to make $200 million. The average lift, most

players aren't going to get vested. Yeah. And the ones that get vested, they're not making no $70, $80 million. Right. But they done took that pounding. So they're going to have the ramifications and the repercussions for playing six years,

seven years in the NFL without the benefits of a guy. For me, Ocho, yeah, I played 14 years. But the best thing about it, I did good with my money. Everybody's not going to be financially responsible. Just like any occupation. Somebody might work at a job for 20 years and be less responsible than

somebody. Not everybody's not going to have the same responsibility. Okay. We get that. But I was in a situation. I mean, he'll saw about 104,000 each. Hmm. Hmm.

Damn! Yeah! Yeah! Boy, $104,000 for a hip? For a hip. Hey, boy, somebody wanted to rob you, all they got to do is come take your hip, boy. Shit, hey.

Hey, let me get that hip up off you, baby. You see that scar? Come on. Oh, you got to put a tattoo over that, man. Both sides. Look at that, Ocho. Both sides. Hey, you got to get a tattoo over that, man.

That's fine over there. Huh? By the time they see that, Ocho, it's too late. It's too late. It's too late, Ocho. It's too late. It's too late. It's going down.

It's going down, down. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Uh-uh. You done got too late. If you can see this car, it's too late. There it is. Damn, Ocho. It's too late There it is Damn, Joe It's too late Hey

Boy, you You shot out, man Boy, you shot out God damn, man $104,000 for hip replacement? Yeah, yeah Boy, you got that Boy, you got that money, man

Shit Oh, Joe I mean What price would you pay? How much would you be willing to pay for quality of life? Hmm. You know what?

You know, I'm the wrong person to ask that because you look, you look, you look, I got a pretty penny, but I don't live the quality,

the quality of life that I should. I live way below my means. No, Ocho, what I'm saying, you're missing the point. See, you think I'm saying in exuberance, but if you had to pay to not be in pain, what would you pay? Oh, yeah. Now we're talking.

Now, when you put it that way. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. No, I'm not talking about living extravagant. I'm talking about you're not in pain. Okay okay okay when you walk you're not in pain when you sleep you're not in pain when you sleep you're not in pain when you're staying you're not in pain let me let me explain something else to you just just just small small stay with me real quick man you know my terminology and my fight and my mantra while we talk about ultra versus science yeah right and you know what i believe in as far as my nutrition and i and and the feeling that

you can eat whatever you want as long as you train and my whole feeling that is eating a certain way you have to build the callus within the body to calcify the bones you know as you're growing up blah blah so i'm thinking of the fact that I've never been injured before. I've never been injured before. And I think if you hadn't have, if you had eaten my way when you were playing, I think you would be fine. It's hereditary. My sister about to get both of her hips replaced.

She ain't never played football. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Stay with me. What? The food, the intake, what you consume. My sister, she hog ball, pigtail, ch you consume. Muscles need healthy. She hog, ball, pigtail, chitlin, raccoon.

Still to this day, turtle, goat. So, hereditary. My brother got his replaced. My brother was in his late 30s when he got his replaced. Sterling too? Yep. Damn. Okay. Alright. Alright. I lost this one.

Yeah, you did. My dad died at 39 of cancer he had two brothers didn't make it to 50 damn i have a aunt died 47 i only had one uncle make it to the age of 70 my grandfather died at 57 had an uncle died 57 one died at 60 60 60 one died at 64 on both sides it don't matter it's the one appointment that you cannot cancel or reschedule because when he called when he put your when he writes your name down you got to take that appointment you got to go that's the one appointment i like that and it does not matter I read a story they said the king he said

when he died he said he wanted to summons all the greatest doctors in the city and they ask him they say why do you want to summons the greatest doctors

to carry your casket he said because I want the world to see even the best medicine cannot save you when it's your time? He said, you know what?

All this money. I'm the richest man in the city. He's a spread it around. They said, well, why do you want him to spread all your money? He said, because you cannot take any of it with you.

Yeah. I like when you write your name down in that book, you come in the time to go. You come on. You can't reschedule in that book, you coming. You want the time to go? You coming. You can't reschedule. At all. That's enough. You know what?

I like that. And people always talk about, oh, this can kill you, that can kill you. And I always tell people, you know when you're born? You got to leave here. You got an expiration date.

The expiration date, it's already set. Yeah. It's already set. There's really nothing you can do where you can change when it's time to go. And if you think you can, you're a fool. That's just how

I feel. Other people might feel a different way. It's they can control when it's time to go. You know, if I eat this, maybe I'll live longer. I mean, sure. Shit. If that's not what in his plan, guess what? When that not,

when that not, when that not come and it's time to go? You write your name down in the book. I don't care what he eat. I don't care what he eat. Salad, kale, rice cakes. Maybe it's time to go.

Mr. Jackson 2002 said, I'm a Cowboys, but Mike McCarthy game management. Yes, because his game management always, you got Dak throwing the ball, stopping the clock. Come on, Ocho. Make them burn them timeouts.

Right, right, right, right. Learn to play better situational football. And this was the perfect time to practice it. Perfect time to practice it. It's going to bite him. It's going to bite him. It's going to bite him. You think so? He think he's slick.

Oh, I'm aggressive. I got the utmost confidence. We'll be having this conversation. Yeah. True Infamous 73 asks, which one deserves an extension? Nah, Mike or CD. Neither one of them deserve it. They earned it.

And you have to pay the piper. Yeah. You have to pay. They definitely earned it. Now, I'm going to tell you, Mike ain't give you no hometown discount. CD might. Oh, no, no, no, no. CD might give who a discount?

He might. You know, he want to be there. I'm telling you, Mike ain't giving no discount. Because here's the thing. You see Ocho? Ocho. Just think about it it and Russ is a prime example think about all those hometown discounts Tom Brady

gave the New England Patriots and when he came down to it and he wanted some more money they said no so for Tom got his first contract they redid Tom's contract after he won that Super Bowl they redid it and I think they redid it again in 05.

And all the years that he gave them discount after discount after discount after discount. You know what? And Tom's situation was a little different though. Because Tom was so fortunate for one to have I'm not even going to be obviously

to be married. To be married to a woman making three times more than him. He was also blessed to be making a shit ton of money off the field. So being able to give the Patriots a hometown discount. So why the Patriots pocket watching? So let me ask you a question. What did you say? Why they what?

Pocket watching. But here's the thing. Now, one time. So let me ask you a question. How many times you think the league gave these networks a discount? Oh, they can't. Oh, they don't play that. Oh. If you notice, you know, Ocho, the NFL, they the only company.

They don't write checks. They only deposit. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. You right about that. They deposit checks. You checks. They only deposit. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. You right about that. They deposit checks. You're right. The only.

All they do is deposit. You're right. Now, not one time they say, you know what, CBS, y'all were the first network with us, the broadcasters. You know what? We're going to give you a discount. Jeez. Hey, ESPN, y'all, you know what? Y'all talk football.

All the other networks, they don't really talk football year-round like you do. So, ESPN, we're going to give y'all you know what y'all talk football no other than all the other networks they don't really talk football year round like you do so ESPN we're gonna give y'all a discount NBC you know what y'all got out got back in we really appreciate that we're gonna give y'all a discount you know what Amazon y'all deliver package y'all make sure y'all give us Amazon Prime

y'all make sure we get our packages on time we're gonna give y'all a discount the NFL don't give nobody a discount on nothing. Not sponsors, not advertisers. Right. But from a football standpoint, the discount that Tom was

giving is the reason they were able to win so many Super Bowls because they were able to build the pieces around them to be able to do what they did. So when that man said, you know what? I don't want to take another discount. I think it's time for y'all to break bread. You would have thanked after all the years, all the money that they done saved over the years. It would have been a no-brainer.

It would have been a no-brainer. But obviously, the head man over there had a problem with it because he was ready to move on. Right. The owner was fine, but the head man in charge had a problem with it and was ready to move on. He was. He was.

He was. Michael's going to break the bank. CD's going to want Tyreek's money. Tyreek does 30, 31 mil. He got 72 guaranteed. So he's going to reset the market for the receiver position?

He should. And then Justin Jefferson probably coming right behind him to reset it again. Yes, yes, yes. And then, wait a minute, then we still have Chase. Chase is going to have to come along

and have to fall somewhere in the same... He said, I ain't falling nowhere. He said, I'm falling up. Yeah, yeah. He said, I'm falling up. And you know, you got Mike Evans. Mike Evans says, hey, my contract completely up. I want to break

bread. Somebody break bread with me. They're going to give it to him, too. I'm not sure where he's going to go. I'm trying to think of a good place for Mike Evans to go. Yeah, that's a good question. You know, you would want Tampa Bay to do it, but Tampa Bay, if they were going to do it, they would have done it already.

Yeah. They would have done it already. You wouldn't even let him get to this point this far. And in the con, you would have wanted, especially what he's been able to accomplish. His body of work has been phenomenal throughout his entire career. But it's crazy how they do you when you hit 30-31, huh?

Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, it's crazy. The business is a dirty game. Look, I ain't got no problem. If you say, well, yeah, for sure. Well, it's crazy. The business is a dirty game. Look, I ain't got no problem if you say, well, Shannon, we need you to take a pay cut. Okay, fine. But can I cut my production too?

Now, see, they want you to make them same place and people at home. This is what I want you to do. Your boss say, you know what? We're going to cut your pay. But we still want you to work 40 hours and plus another 10 overtime, but we're going to cut your pay. So I will give it to you as something that you can explain, because every time I say something, you always want to tell me, well, that's still a lot of money. So I'm putting it in your, I'm going to put it in your realm. I don't know how much you make. Your boss comes to you and says, we're going to cut your pay.

But we want you to still give us those 40 hours plus the 10 hours a week. How you feeling about that? So I ain't putting in millions. I ain't talking about an NFL player. I'm not talking about an NBA player. I'm talking about the person that works a nine to five. Your boss comes to you. He tells you he wants

to cut your pay 10 30 up to 50 and your hours no no no no no you got to work the same hours because see when they cut your pay they still want you to give them that same production oh no oh no i don't even like the way that sound. So let me ask you a question, Ocho. When they cut these guys paid, you think they want them to produce less? Or they wanted to produce the same they did as when they were making the money? They want the same production, man.

You know that. So I'm going to cut the average person. The fans don't understand until you put it in their terminology where they can understand it a little better. I put it in their terminology. Your boss comes to you and he's going to cut your pay

by up to 60%, but he wants you to work the same hours for 60% less pay. How are you feeling about that? Uh-uh. You're better than me. But, you know, at times, you know, when you get to a certain point

in your career where that price tag on you is very high and they want to bring it on down and you know you're not at the end of the road. You know you can still keep going. That's when you just move on. Ocho, that's why I'm going to get my money because I know

that day going to come. Because here's the thing, Ocho. There's a reason why certain companies don't give you discounts because once you give a discount, what's the expectation? A discount. Yeah. Well, the first thing. And we the discount king.

Hey, hey, get your boy that hook up. What? Yeah. Once you start with that, Ocho, where do you go? Yeah. See, if I give you a discount at a five-star hotel, guess what? Every time you come, you're going to want a discount. You're never going to want to pay the full price.

Right. Or what I have to do is that I have to mark it up for more than what I want and say, okay, I'll give you a discount, but this is the price I want to get you the room for all the time anyway. Yeah. That's what they do with Black Friday. They mark the prices way up. It's a slash 20%, 30%.

And it'd be the regular price. It'd be the regular price anyway. Boy, it's a dirty game, man. It is. It is. It's a dirty game. Okanocho, they said, what is the problem with Dallas? Why are they so inconsistent?

Is it coaching or on-field personnel? Look, Mike McCarthy's going to have to prove himself because he did win a lot of games, but he had two guys that's on the he got two guys that won seven MVPs, this many. Aaron Rodgers, now

although he did not coach Brett Favre during those MVP seasons, Brett Favre has no MVPs on his resume. He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. Aaron Rodgers has four. Under Mike McCarthy. So he's going to have to prove that it's his coaching and not those guys. But you would like to think you'd have more than one MVP

with guys that won seven MVPs. You would think, Ocho. I'm just saying. Maybe it's me. Yeah. You never know. Especially at that position. Yeah.

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Malcolm Heaton, Heaton, Heaton, I think it's Heaton, donated $50. As a skilled player, do you have a problem with the quarterbacks avoiding hits when they're the opportunity to make big throws?

Or do you understand it takes a special type of quarterback to sit, stay in that pocket, to look down that gun barrel and don't, don't care

and to take one right here. Now, it's easy to say at home, but I've been hit right here. Just like I'm saying, it takes a special type of receiver to know that safety is going to drop that thunder on you. Yeah. And make it feel like trees falling on your head.

And you go catch it. Now, it's easy. I mean, you might do it once. But Al Davis had a famous saying, rest your soul, Al. The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard. And it needs to happen in one of the early in the first couple of possessions of the game. That's what

I want to do. I want to send a message. You see, football in its true meaning was about intimidation. Yeah. You were actually trying to break a man's spirit. You're trying to break his will. Yeah. They kind of...

You see guys, like I said, Ocho, guys taking selfies going across the middle. Catching the ball with one hand because they got a selfie. Yeah. The quarterback,

oh, the quarterback just throwing. He's just changing arm angles. He's doing... Ocho, he's doing all these. Hey, they're throwing. Ocho, they wouldn't even nope nope that wouldn't even look that wouldn't even look at the receiver

they're like take that with you different times are different yes yes but I look

it takes a special type of quarterback to know somebody's gonna put their helmet right here and even though it's gonna be a 15 yard penalty

man you don't wanna take too many of those. Ultra, you know people ask, they say, well, Shannon, what's it like to play in the NFL? And the way I explain that, I say, go get you a thin jacket. Go get you a medium-sized jacket. And go to Lowe's or

Home Depot and get you a hard hat. And I want you to light up anywhere between five and ten yards from your garage. And I want you to run into it 65 times. Damn. That's all I want you to do in ten yards. I ain't say do it like kickoff where you light it up for 30 or 40 yards. Oh, like the wedge?

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Because that's what those lit collisions are. That's what it feel like. That's what you do it. Now, I want you to do that for 17 weeks I'm gonna give you a bye take a week off take your bye week

from running into the wall in the garage anytime you want to take it off whenever you want to you can go but then you gotta do it now

what they don't do is that we used to hit when I had Dan Reeves we hit in practice we hit in training camp right and I ain't talking about no third up we put mofos on the ground yeah We used to hit, when I had Dan Reeves, we hit in practice. We hit in training camp. Right.

And I ain't talking about no thud up. We put mofos on the ground. Yeah. We had certain days like that. We put them on the ground. You want to know what it's like? Yeah. Don't do 10, because 10 might, five yards,

just line up five yards from your garage and run into it. You know what? 65 times. You know what? Just do it. Because the offensive linemen, they hit on every play. So what position do you want to play? Malcolm, what position do you want to play? Do you want to play running back? Do it 20 times. C.D. Lamb caught the ball 17 times.

So you just tell me the position. Because if you're an offensive lineman and you're a defensive lineman, you're hitting on every play. Yeah. A running back, do it 20 times. Oh, snap. Speaking of football and hitting, y'all did hamburger drills?

When we was growing up, you're talking about like Bull in the Ring, Oklahoma? Yeah, Oklahoma. But we did it in the NFL. I can't remember the name. I can't remember the name of it. It would be the offensive lineman, defensive lineman, quarterback, and running back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then receivers and DBs. We'd have ours. Ours was more so just blocking. Yeah. Not blocking with the running back. Yes, absolutely. Trying to find a way.

Okay. We used to have Oklahoma. Okay, okay, Oklahoma drills. I like Oklahoma drills. Yeah. Okay. We used to have, we got Oklahoma. Okay. Okay. Oklahoma. I like, I like Oklahoma drill. Yeah.

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And then, And then, And then, And then, Like in training camp, you get the nine on seven. Well, we had no receivers. So if it's nine on seven, what the hell you think we going to do? The defense, the linebacker, the D-line ain't no threat of no goddang old pass. It's all running. Yeah. And they done got it set up.

You got to run in this area. I'm like, bro. I mean, can we have, I mean, in the game, I mean, there is a threat of a pass. Nine on seven. Ain't no passing. It's just man on man. Yeah. Money in my note.

They know what you're going to do. You know they know what you're going to do. And you still got to go get it done. Every time. That's why when we got in for a minute, you know we're going to run this ball. Oh, move it. You hear me say it all Every time. That's why when we got in four minutes, you know we gonna run this ball. Oh, move it. You hear me say it all the time. Moving a man against his will.

Hey, y'all ran that stretch play over and over and over and over and over. The Broncos and the Colts with that damn stretch play, man. With Evan James and Adai. Like, God.

Hand off strong toss week. What you going to do? Stop it. We don't get you up out of here. You finna move. You finna get up out of here. Right. They start out talking, Ocho.

Nothing today. You know, the first player in the game. You know, Ocho, you know how they stop you? You get a one-yard game. Oh, you get no good. They stop you. Nothing today. You know, the first play in the game, you know, Ocho, you know how they stop you? You get a one-yard game, or you get no good. They stop you. Nothing today. Ocho, they do it right here. Nothing. Get that stuff out of here. By the third quarter. Come on,

man. Who gaffed this? No, no. No, no, no, no. You remember the first and second quarter, you told me we weren't going to get nothing. Oh, yeah. When everybody fresh, it's a different ball game. Yes! When going to get nothing? Oh, yeah. When everybody fresh, it's a different ballgame. Yes!

When them legs get a little tired, you get a little winded. Mm-hmm. Man. Yeah. I said, whoa. You ain't talking. What am I talking? What am I talking?

I thought you were saying we weren't going to get nothing. Right, right, right. How we get nothing, and TD got 165 right now. So when did that happen what did I miss boy TD TD was the real deal man TD was the real deal oh him and him and Portis mastered mastered no I mean we they went like even if I left they had guys that could you know because it was TD and then TD got hurt or Landis Gary and then Orlando's it was td and then td got hurt orlandis gary and then orlandis gary went to detroit and then they had mike anderson who run rookie of the year and then

mike uh uh and then uh ruben drones got 12 the porters porters came and then ruben drones and then mike and just just keep going it was hey we hey running is what we did. We're going to run stopping. Right. And it was very, very simple. That's why we were able to be successful because it wasn't all them exotic plays, all these checks. Hey, if you hear John talk about, hey, all we had was over. That

means instead of going left, we're going right. Instead of right, we're going left. All that other stuff, we're doing all this right here. No, we ain't doing that. We either going from handoffs to toss. We either going from toss to handoff. That's what we doing.

It's really that simple. Put a hat on a hat if we need to. Normally, we're a zone read. But if we need to put a hat on a hat, oh, you finna get up out of here. You got to get up out of here. In other words, you ain't paying. Like you here. You got to get up out of here. In other words, you ain't paid. Like you getting thrown up out the club, huh? Hey. You getting

up out of there. You ain't paid. You ain't paid in two down. You got to get up. You got to move off this land, bro. I'm sorry. We're going to get your ass up out of there. Faith just donated Ocho. Hey, Ocho. Hi, Faith just donated Ocho. Hey Ocho, hi Shannon,

thanks for sharing. Thank you for sharing. Please know that your scars are a testament to being broke and rebuilt and to serve a divine purpose.

Love the scars as evidence of healing. Stay purpose driven. Prayers for your sister and her healing. Yeah, you know, I feel good. Like I said, I don't show them scars. They're like, oh, you got scars?

Oh, you saw them? It's too late. I ain't got no scars, man. I feel like I ain't been through no war wounds. Hey, that's good. You don't want them. I would prefer not to have them, but I got them now.

You know what I'm saying? I say, well, you know what? They need some cocoa butter rubbing on them. They say cocoa butter make them feel that I tell them make them lighten up. That's what they say. I don't know. Why don't you put more cocoa butter on them? Listen, when you get you that plus one, she gets in my ass.

She'll rub some cocoa butter on them? Yeah, she'll rub them. Make sure you're ready for that wedding in 2025. Baby! Hey, send us some money. Yeah, sure. You're rubbing. Make sure you're ready for that wedding in 2025. Baby! It'll ruin something else. Hey, send us some money. Nikki Grant said, in defense of Chaffer,

let that grown man use language he won't. If you come to Nightcap, you know what time it is also. Hi, Shannon. Let's be friends. Oh, shoot. I forgot I've got to pay $5

for every time I curse Yo dude My bad Twenty My bad It don't five twenty No we said five dollars

No it ain't no five I don't know Nicky You keep on You keep on showing up In this chat now Uh oh You gonna get what You're looking for

There there After the huddle said Birthday is tomorrow Can i get a follow back on twitter on twitter or a shout out second question chad have you thought about a post-career book after the huddle hey that's a good one post-career post-career but you know what i think about it i think about it you know i wrote two books while i was playing one at the beginning of my career, one towards the tail end of it, and one to finish it would be really dope. If I was to write a book, I would want my book to be about financial literacy. I would love my book to be about financial literacy because I'm sick of seeing the stories of us, whether it be athletes or whether it be regular nine to five people. I would love to give people

my formula my formula on how to save money you ain't married what imagine if you were married and she take hold on she take half the money and all the hoo-ha right so you have what you are but i'm so you got 20 million let's just say for the sake. So you got 20 million. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you got 20 million. Yes, sir. She take half of that, and you still got,

and she gets half your pension, and you got to pay child support. But I'm not going to be in that situation because I'm trying to trap her. It's the other way around. No, I'm just saying. You have to understand. I like what you're saying, but those that put themselves in that situation have to I like what you're saying But those that

Put themselves in that situation Have to understand The pros and the cons Of marriage That's Yes Ocho I don't think anybody goes

Ocho You ain't just here What you say Just cursing back there What you say I am Man don't get me in trouble here man Because I got to deal with that don't do that

Ocho I don't think anybody gets I don't think anybody goes into a marriage thinking they're going to get divorced I think you never do but let's look at statistics oh I'm a firm believer oh we got

to get a prenup because I tell my homeboy they say say, Sean, I ain't got nothing. I say, good. So therefore, when you get a divorce, you get 100% of your nothing. You don't want half of your nothing. I want all of my nothing. So whatever I don't have, I will keep. Right.

And so that's how I look at it, Ocho. But yeah, I agree. I mean, I've had a lot of friends that got married. And like I said, I think the thing is that when a person is in the league, and I can just speak to NFL because that's what I'm familiar with. That's what I'm around. I think the women are more tolerant. Oh, going out with your homeboy, staying out late at night,

that ain't a problem because you got $5, $7 million coming in. Now, all of a sudden, you ain't got that coming in, and you don't get to move to the front of the restaurant unless you're one of them old big-time names. So now, all of a sudden, things that didn't annoy you, it annoys you all of a sudden. It annoys you, yeah. And see, sometimes people get married.

You know, if you're having, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you go two years, they Yeah. And see, sometimes people get married. You know, if you having, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you go two years and like, ooh, man, she the bomb. Everything I asked for, man, you know, she let me chill with the boys when I want to. You know, occasionally she'll cook a meal.

We go out, we have such a great time. You're under the impression that 15 years from now, that's going to be the same way. Oh, no. You have to find another way to make it like that. So you got to fall,

basically, you got to fall in love with her all over again. All over again. She has to fall in love with you all over again. All over again. Continuously. Mm-hmm.

It's so easy now to Ocho. It's so easy now. Mm-hmm. Man, this ain't working. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely so easy now. Man, this ain't working. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely.

Most definitely. Because again, social media has made it very, very difficult for a lot of people to remain happy for the lifestyles that they're seeing,

especially for the women that they're seeing on Instagram and thinking that that is somewhat of reality or I'm going to find a guy that's going to provide so I can live like this as well. Really not understanding

what comes with the territory with the type of men that you are chasing. Yeah. It ain't, it ain't. Social media ain't real life though, Ocho. It's not. Because there's an edit button.

Ain't no edit button in real life. It ain't. You see, hey, Ocho, I can't go, you can't see me. And then also, hey hey let me go to let me get this wrinkle out of my face

let me get this wrinkle out of my forehead let me put more money in my pocket see on social media the women can make their lips look a certain way they can add

you can be anybody you want you can be anybody you want to be it's crazy it's crazy crazy crazy you know when they see me they say oh you you more handsome in person Crazy Crazy

You know they say When they see me they say You more handsome in person than on TV I say for real I ain't know I ain't even know that They say you bigger too Yeah

I get that I get all the time They say oh oh, fine. They say, oh. They say, oh, fine. I say, really? Yeah. I mean, I mean, like, fine, like, frog hair? I mean, what kind of fine am I?

Right, it's different kinds of fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right, right, right. I say, yeah, I'm okay. I don't really get no compliments like that no more. It just be my baby. She just be praising me. You know, she, you tell me I,

you know, I love chocolate. I need Ash to stop volunteering to take pictures. I said, Ash, you want to get the picture? Dude, Ash all of a sudden,

she got to go to the bathroom. I'm like, hold on. You just ain't talking about no bathroom. You just don't want to get no picture. But Jordan going to get us a picture like we going

to be walking at the airport. Yeah. She ain't going to know nothing about it. She make sure Jordan is her front. She either side by side with Jordan or Jordan is her front.

Yeah. Baby! We got to get you here. Where are we? How many people in the chat at you? Yeah, she said, my baby said, I'm fine, yo. We got 32,000 in the chat, Ocho. 32,000? 32,000. Hey, that's 32,000 people that know I'm fine, yo. We got 32,000 in the chat, Ocho. 32,000?

32,000. Hey, that's 32,000 people that know I'm fine. And, and, we got to get our gold. We got to break, we got to try to get like 50 tomorrow. Wait.

Our record, what's our record? 43 what? 9.32, what time? About 44,000 is our record. We got to break our record. That's our goal tomorrow You know what When is

You know when we gonna break I'm gonna tell you when we gonna break the record This is when we gonna break it Watch this I'm gonna tell you when We gonna break the record Oh no Is there football next Saturday or no?

Yeah I think there are two games next Saturday We don't know what games. What's today? Today's Thursday, right? Today's Saturday. Hey, you talking about Thursday. Wait.

Wait, I'm tripping. What kind of calendar is this? What you mean? It's the one that's been implemented for 2,000 years. Oh, I'm looking at, dude, I'm still on the 2022 calendar. I'm tripping. Yeah, you really tripping. Okay, okay, okay.

I think we're going to do that. We're going to hit that 50. We're going to hit that 50 mark on their ass. I was trying so hard because, you know, right now, we're at 584,000. We were really trying

to get that 600. We're going to hit the 600. We're about before the year. Yeah, I was trying to hit it before Monday. Yeah, you're right. But hey, look, we're going to do 200,000 subs in the month of December alone. Yeah. Which is, nobody did numbers like that. Right.

Nobody. That's crazy. Matter of fact, remember, when we hit the million subs i'm gonna have my first my first um oh yeah yeah i'm gonna drink the whole bottle no don't do that yeah right to the head your family gonna come together you drink the whole bottle your family gonna come together what what are we going nah you won't know i think where you going i know where you going i'm going up or yonder don't do that don't you not the whole bottle just a little swing you know we gonna you know you can't drink the whole she back there singing the song you just

started oh so alcohol if alcohol can kill you like that? Yeah Yeah, yeah Alcohol poison See That's why See, that's why I don't drink You just

That's what my mama That's where my mama passed from Well, mama drank like a fish, boy That's my baby, man Well, she probably had a Hey Well, I drank like a fish, boy She don't even play

She probably had cirrhosis yeah that's what it said on the um what do you call you get from the metal examiner man what you call it the that's what it said

yeah instead of just instead of just saying alcohol or poison you know they had the big scientific word I had to google the shit I ain't gonna say a lot to you

I had to google hell what yeah yeah yeah but damn man but we do hey Ocho we doing good.

We doing unbelievable. I mean, considering that we're not even three months, it'll be three because we started the channel October 8th, November 8th, December 8th. So January 8th will be three months and we'll be well past 600,000 by January 8th, which is very good. So I want to thank you guys again.

Please make sure you hit that like and click that subscribe button. Because like I said, look, Ocho and I, we are who we are. You know, we both played the game at a very high level. We won some games, we lost some games, and we both have some stories.

I'm a little older than Ocho, so obviously I have more stories than Ocho. And I probably hung around more old people than Ocho. And, you know around more old people than Ocho. And, you know, my grandfather. I hung around old people too, Nat. I think the thing is for me is that when my grandfather would take, because the barber shop was like a house and all the old men was just sitting

there and be telling stories. And so, you know, my grandfather would say, hey, I'm dropping these boys off. Y'all don't curse in front of these boys. And they were very respectful because my grandfather would go hey I'm dropping these boys off y'all don't curse in front of these boys and they were very respectful because my grandfather would go you know he sometimes he would go home and you know come back and pick us up so I would hear all these old men talking and tell all these stories and things like that and so I was just like a sponge just absorbing it up and I was like man I was just always thinking I mean when I get old you think I'm gonna be I'm gonna tell stories like this I probably I'm going to be, I'm going to tell stories like this. I probably, I'm probably going to be with him. And here I am.

I'm just like the old man that was sitting on the porch telling all these damn stories. Um, but this is who we are. And we, we really appreciate you accepting us for who we are. Um, we're not always grammatically correct. We don't always use the correct, yeah, correct punsy pronunciation and all that stuff. I talk so damn fast sometimes I got to slow down. Always use the correct pronunciation and all that stuff. Especially me. I talk so damn fast sometimes. I got to slow down.

But what you see is what you get. And I think the thing is, you know we're authentic. And so we appreciate you accepting us for who we are, how we are, and making us, you know, like I said, we're the number one basketball podcast on Apple. We're the number two sports podcast on Apple and Spotify. But if y'all think we satisfied, now we're thankful. Because see, here's the thing. People say, you know, you can be grateful and still not be satisfied. We're very grateful.

But, you know, we're coming from that number one spot. Yeah, I need that. I you know, we're coming for that number one spot. Yeah, I need that. We're coming for that number one spot. We're coming for it. I'm not sure who's in it. The Kelsey brothers. Oh, okay. I love Trav and Jason, but I need that. We're coming.

I love you. You got two brothers coming for it. We're not biological brothers, but we two brothers coming for it. We're not biological brothers, but we two brothers. We coming. We family. You know what? Yeah, we coming for that spot. Hold on.

I feel good. Jordan. I'm feeling good. Oh. Hold on. Did I miss something? Okay. Hey, bro. We we got damn cheeseburger so good logan black roberts as hi uncle no joke can you shout out my husband michael roberts and my son jackson black you'll make the you'll make you'll make me the best uh wife and mom uh okay michael roberts and jackson roberts your wife and your

mom wants to wish you a happy birthday. And Ocho and I are going to take the time to also wish you a happy birthday. No, we're just going to shout you out. It's not your birthday. She didn't mention anything about birthday, so it's not your birthday. So Michael, Jackson, wife and mom says hello. Hello from Uncle Ocho. So thank you.

Thank you for listening. We really appreciate that. wife and mom says hello. Hello from Uncle Ocho. So thank you. Thank you for listening. We really appreciate that. Cody Newkirk. Uncle, that Laporte had me feeling like, oh, Ocho. I mean, you Oto. Otosinko.

That's what they call you. Otosinko. Oh, about the toes. Yeah, yeah. One of the most important. From the rooter to the tooter. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the most important things that a man needs to pay attention to that you have ignored all your life. But we're going to get you together.

No, but you know what I'm saying, Ocho? I don't want to see it. I got to see the toes. I mean, you know, look, do I like women with open-toe shoes? Of course. Of course. And they got one of those sun dresses on.

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. One of the most slip dresses. Yes. Boy. You better never let me. If I see one, you better never let me catch on payday. Hold check on me.

Hold check. I'm talking about ESPN check, volume check, advertising check, all of them. If she ever let me catch her with one of them dresses on. One of them on sundress and slip dress. Hold on. All your money? You done spent, you done named every

the volume, club shea shea check. Club shea shea, ESPN. Yes. Get it all. We can't have you. We can't. This is bad.

We can't have you getting all your money away like that. You better let me see those slip. Those sundress slip. Man, Ocho. And when they work out and the glue's kind of like. I mean, some of them, like, the way it's up and down, like they're shaking hands, like a second hand.

Yeah. Lord have mercy. I'm with you when you're right. I got to be careful what I say because you can hear me. Don't worry about it. Real, this all be real. Stay with me.

Stay with me, baby. It's something about a woman and a son, man. Now, look, baby. It's something about a woman and a sundress. Now, look, when they got them shorts on in the gym and they're working out in them little spandex shorts.

I know what you're talking about. But when they got on that old slip dress or that sundress, man. Listen, I can't get into the conversation like I want to because...

But if I was Magic, the sun would be out. It would be like Alaska all the time. 23 hours of sunlight. Yeah, man. Yeah. What?

I don't think she can hear me, but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, man. One of those sunglasses on Ojo? Yeah. Man, I caught one about seven, eight years ago, told her, you cook, I marry you.

Did you shake the covers? Who? What? For dark. Man, she cooking, man, she cooking, she cooking a oxtail, fried up bacon, sausage, grits. What? Hey.

You can flat out. Hey. That helper could cook. She can cook. And I know she watching. I know she watching too. I know you watching. I'm talking about you.

Yeah. And see, that is what you need to go back and rekindle with. That is a type of flame you need to try to light again because there's something special about that i'm looking at the passion in which you explain in the situation and whoever this individual may be but that's not not the one is that that uh she's a look come on now don't hold back now no oh joe i i think the thing is like look i think we'll bet off let me get let me get comfortable now we'll bet off his friends and uh you know there was a lot of there was some animosity in the beginning of the breakup okay

but i think i think over time, for me, I have never had a problem admitting I was wrong. Right. So you were wrong. I was wrong. You're good with accountability. Yep.

I commend you. I demand it. I demand it. I demand it. And because I ask others to be accountable, therefore I must be accountable. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

You ask the woman to take accountability? I do. Just because she doesn't, doesn't mean I shouldn't. Okay, okay. I was finna say it, but now you know. One thing they don't do, they ain't take no accountability and they ain't gonna apologize.

I can't remember, I can't say the last time. Yeah, man, but I I'm sorry. You know what? I messed up. I'm taking all accountability for all actions. Yeah, I was wrong. I was dead wrong. Okay, so you, okay, I understand. I was dead wrong.

Yeah, but that's the thing. I mean, so, yeah, Ocho, but that was the good old days man you know hey sometimes you got to relive the good old days though man like your family reunion or your class reunion you know sometimes you ain't seen people in 10 years and

once you get back together you spark something that you never knew that you never knew y'all had I went to my class reunion I've only been able to go to one and that was our 10 year reunion. And so in 21, we had our 30th, 35th anniversary.

And I was, I hadn't, so I didn't go to 15, 20, 25, 30, didn't go to 35. But,

but, but you know what? I need to, I need to find me. You know what? I'm going to find me somebody that got a class reunion going up. I'm going to see if people recognize me. I want to go back and go to theirs.

I mean, you know people are going to recognize you. They're probably going to say, well, how the hell did you land here? Because, you know, I'm the one that, hey, I'm Moby Dick. I'm the one that they tell you. But, you know, the fish, man, I had one bigger than this one. Yeah. I'm the Moby Dick that you, but you know, the fish, man, I had one bigger than this one. Yeah. I'm the Moby Dick that got to keep getting away. Okay. So when I

show up to a class reunion or a family reunion. Yeah. Him? He? Yeah. Yeah. You see what she got on? She got that sundress on. That's why I'm here. That's that boy.

That's that boy. That's that boy. I got to be careful because I got ears and eyes watching me. See, you talking about toes. She got them legs. I mean, you know, it's something about a workout body. It's something about it. Man, you ain't got to tell me. Boy, you ain't got to tell me.

It's something about a workout body. Hey, listen. I'm with you. I'm with you when you're right. I know exactly where you're going with it. Man. Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'm with you. I'm with you when you're right. I know exactly where you're going with it. Man. Yeah, she... Yeah.

I'm trying to spark my memory like, yeah. He didn't say nothing. See? Go ahead, keep it cute now. Man. I don't even like my couch. Yeah. I don't even like my couch. See? Keep it cute now. Man. I don't even like my couch.

Yeah. That was a good old day, though. That was a good old day, though, Joe. Unculture Jazz, you guys went to my... Yo, went to my sister's gender reveal party today. If I was your son and I didn't want kids or marriage at all, how would you feel? Some folks asked me about

that when I answered them. They looked at me funny. Look, as a matter of fact, happy birthday to KJ. It's my grandson. My first grandson. It's his birthday. Hey, he a Capricorn. He's also LeBron. It's LeBron's

birthday. Happy birthday, go James. It's Tiger Woods' birthday today. Happy birthday, go James. It's Tiger Woods' birthday today. Happy birthday, Tiger. At the end of the day, I'm fortunate I have a grand. And my oldest daughter, I know she wants kids. My youngest daughter,

take it or leave it. But at the end of the day, I'm not fitting to force my beliefs off on them. Now, had I had it to do over I probably had the kids that I got been from one woman but you know like you said Ocho I was being fast I was out there being managed

and and things didn't quite work out like I wanted but at the end of the day at the end of the day, at the end of the day,

I want my kids to do what's going to make them happy. And if kids make them happy, I mean, it's a great... But like he's saying, Uncle J said, he don't know if kids are for him. You got to do what's for you now. Hey, see,

people want you to have them kids. They ain't going to take care of them kids. Take care of them. Nah, ain't going to do that. Ain't going to do that. And you got time. I mean, you know, I mean, my kids are a little older now, so they get to, I remember when they I don't want no kids, you know, but

I think for the most part, I think my oldest and my son, I think they always wanted kids. My youngest, my youngest, she like they always wanted kids. My youngest, like, my youngest, like, she,

she like really career oriented. And I'm like, okay, babe, you know, you're going to look up and then, you know, at worst case scenario,

freeze your eggs. You can always, you know, if you don't find the right guy, you can always go to a donor. Yeah. But at the end of the day, whatever,

make whatever, we're going gonna make them happy so i'm not here to like oh you need to do this or do that that's not what i'm here for i'm just here to be a parent and you ask my advice i'm gonna give you my advice but on culture j you got to do what's best for you bro because they kids ain't cheap they ain't cheap and that's that's and that ain't no 18 year investment you know it ain't you know my grandfather was like okay you got 18 30 but your 18th

birthday you got 30 days to get the hell up out of my house it ain't like that no mojo that's a lifetime commitment that's a lifetime you dead forever and so with things ain things going right,

they calling. Money jump, money jump, funny, they calling. Yeah. So, Trevor Hellsper said, Uncle Nocho loved the show and Roll Tide. My wife Sarah and I expect our first child to be born in a few days. A boy, Katie.

What's the most challenging, rewarding part of being a new parent? Happy New Year. The most challenging part of being a new parent, obviously, I have a one-year-old, so I started fresh. Even though I have 84 other kids, I started fresh because I wanted to get that full-time experience as a father. But the one thing that you have to rely on and work on is getting the baby in routine with your schedule yes when you up keep them up when you sleep put them to sleep you just once the baby gets into that routine even at an early stage is you'll have so much peace you have so much peace i'm very very very, very, very Experienced in this area If you need any help

If you need any instructions I have YouTube tutorials On how to deal with infants One year old, two year olds And three year olds You can check out my YouTube channel On how to deal with kids And lots of Cocomelon

In Grace's Corner To see And a lot of Cocoa Melon in Grace's Corner. To see that you would have on creating a life and to see that that little person is just so dependent on you. And to know that you want to try to shield it from all the mistakes that you made, realizing that's impossible, but that doesn't stop you from trying. And even, even when like me and the mom would have a disagreement, it's like, damn. I just I just wanted to like.

Be the best that I could. I realized I wasn't going to be perfect because at that time. Football and getting my grandmother out of that situation and having a life for them for the rest of their lives, that was really important to me. But, I mean, sometimes I would go and I would see them sleeping and be tempted to wake them up just to hold them. But, nah, y'all had been up so much. Hell, I'm going to let y'all sleep.

Hopefully, y'all sleep for about 15 hours. Right. But that's a great feeling. And then the best feeling is, Ocho, is that when they're able to walk and to really understand and can talk and can tell you. First steps. Man. First steps, a classic. That's a classic moment.

As a matter of fact, what's the individual name who asked the question? Who's having his first? What's his name? Trevor Hillsborough. Oh, Trevor. Trevor, this is another thing. I don't mean to be in your personal business, but in the Bible, I'm not going to preach right now, but I'm just going to tell you something real quick that you and your wife need to take heed to in the bible uh it says that odd numbers are not good and it's bad luck so as soon as she gives birth trevor you need to get back in there you need to get back in there and one more child one more child let's let's have two let's have two and get it out the way now i'm not sure if you guys even want two kids doesn't matter what you want because the Bible says odd numbers are bad luck. So I need you to get back in there, have another. Now, I also have an audio book if you have more than one child.

So you have my YouTube tutorials on how to deal with young kids. You also have my audio book. So, you know, Google that stuff and I'm here for you if you need help. Again, the key to it, having kids at a young age is getting them on your routine. When you're up, you force them to stay up. When it's time to sleep,

you put them to sleep. But you know what, Ocho? It's a job you don't get paid for. You don't get no holidays. You don't get no vacation. No. It's just all work. Oh, yeah.

It's a very thing. Because for the most part, if you're doing your job right, kids going to hate you from the jump. Because, see, my thing was I was never trying to be my kid's friend. You know, oh, that's my friend. My mom's my best. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now, once we get to a certain age.

Yeah. But I established early on the dynamic ain't gonna change i'm dad you're the child and so but i i it's like once they get to a certain age and they can understand and they can comprehend that's also a time they be talking crazy boy girl yeah but had I tried to raise my kids like my granny and my mom

that wouldn't work with you I've been in jail yeah listen my grandma was quick she slapped me you say something slick Yeah, definitely. Listen, times are different. My grandma was quick. She slapped a taste out your mouth. You say something slick? My grandma be done got close to you.

Wow. Trevor, good luck. I'm sure you guys prepared. Get back in there. Love, PreviousRN asks, where can I send my application just to go out on a date with her?

Can you pay for dinner? Can I pay for dinner? Oh, she's going to pay for it. Yeah, listen, listen. You got your one right there now. Yeah. I'm going to the seafood tower. I want lobster.

You know what comes... I ain'm going to the seafood tower. I want a lobster. You know what? I ain't going to say that. See, you got to worry about me. I'm allergic to shellfish. So I ain't going to get no. You know what? You know what? Come with lobster.

Man, go ahead. I don't know. Man. That was classic. That night was classic. that was classic that day that night was classic that was classic Jordan Hackley what's up

Shannon Chad big fan of the show I have a question for you Ocho how did you end up in Monica's Everything To Me

music video oh you know I was a video vixen back in the day I did a little bit of everything yeah day. I did a little bit of everything. Yeah. You know, I did a little bit of acting, you know, uh, I did a little amateur, you know what? I mean, that's the whole nother story when I was in college and then a transition into being a video

vixen. So I, I'm really well-rounded and very cultured. So I've really been around the block and done everything, you know, and I consider that a job. It paid me a little something in the off season. And you know what, Ocho, man? I enjoyed it. What's happening? Time to cut you off.

Yeah. Man, I should have told that. Man, you know how many people... Ocho, I ain't gonna lie. Do you know people come up with that? I mean, I've had women.. Do you know people come up with that? I mean, I've had women... Yeah. ...to ask me.

About me? No. Talking about that... You wouldn't let me order no lobster on the first date. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been couple, man. That was a great topic. That was the running conversation on Twitter

for about, yeah, two weeks now, two, three weeks. Man. That was funny, man. Even the pilot. I was on a flight. Right. Pilot be asking me questions. I mean, I'm talking about,

that's probably the question that, I mean, probably the most question that women ask, can I address you as Unk? Can I call you Unk? They ask me about the lobster. And they ask, do you really get upset? I mean, you really make your partner go to another room to pass gas? Yeah. Absolutely.

Boy, them was classic topics. Classic. Zane buried his brother from Mississippi. You and Ocho, y'all need to come to Hattiesburg and eat some real Southern cooking. Zane, what y'all putting down?

You know what, Ocho? Maybe we do that. What? Maybe we have a contest and they cook prepare they let us see it and then we pick like 4 or 5 winners and we go

sit down and eat with them I like that I like that well you said had them cook? yeah they gotta cook I thought you said you don had them cook yeah they gotta cook so they gotta I didn't see it I thought you said you don't be eating everybody cooking though I don't

I really don't cause then I like to see and you gotta I gotta see you the whole while but I don't wanna show up to nobody's house and your house dusted like rats

riding around in dune buggies I ain't coming in I ain't coming in I like that I'd rather just I don't know I don't really really be eating people cooking like that I'd rather I'd rather just I don't know. I don't really be eating people cooking like that.

I'd rather just go out somewhere. I'd rather just meet up and go out somewhere and eat. Yeah, go to a restaurant and preferably for me somewhere I can smoke my cigar. You eat off a lot of people's plates and you know what I'm talking about. Who? I keep telling you, you cannot sit on the end of a branch and you cannot turn your head all the way around.

You're not an owl. You eat off people's plate. No, I don't. Yeah, you do. Name somebody's plate. I only eat off one plate for the past four years. Yeah, I ain't talking about that. You ain't four years old, though.

So what about the other 30 years that you've been eating off people's plate? Actually, the other 30 years don't even count because the other 30 years got me prepared for the moment I'm in now. No, see, you be... Oh, I know you're a pro. Baby, I got him, baby, I got him. Yeah, I know you're a pro at it.

Yeah, I'm talking my shit, baby. Yeah. She in there cheering for me. I mean, that joke was here. I'm trying, listen, I'm trying to get out of the doghouse now. Stay with me, baby. Why are you at the doghouse? Oh, for the your go-ahead. Listen, I'm trying to get out of the doghouse now. Stay with me, baby. Why are you at the doghouse?

For the comments we were making earlier. I ain't said that. Stole him out. Stole him out real. Stole him out. Oh, that's Debo in there, boy. That's Debo. That is Debo.

Yeah, you need to. But I'm just saying, man. I mean, I'm just saying, Ocho, you just need to, I'm just saying, man, I mean, I'm just saying, Ocho, you just need to, what you call it, man, you just need to stop. I mean, I can't believe that, man. I mean, that's what stopped me.

I can't, I stopped drinking. I mean, because when we grew up, Ocho, we grew up in a time that, you know, we played on a team, hey, man, let me get a swig of that. You drank behind somebody. Right. And I just found out, I found out,

and then somebody was talking, I was like, huh, what is up? Man, sharp, let me tell you. Yeah. I said, okay, you know, I'm listening. So now you got my attention. Undivided attention. Yeah.

I said, you did all that, huh? Yeah. First night? Yeah, man, I just yeah first night yeah man i just oh yeah okay okay okay hey i had my own cup from that point on oh you can't think like that i think like that but i'm just saying you can't think like that i will okay you're not living my own you're alive but you You're alive but you ain't living That's your mouth I don't want to taste nothing that you had in it You're alive but you ain't living

I'm living Ocho I get it The first night What are you waiting for That BMW you got That BMW EV You saw it you saw it, you

wanted it, right? Yeah. Didn't you test drive it? Did you test drive it first? No. No. You just bought it? I ain't never test drive. I ain't never test drive a car. I see it, I want it. Hold on.

So you see it, you want it, right? Yeah. But when it comes to a woman, oh, you got to, you got to, you got to wait. I got to wait. Oh, the first night. Oh, it's a big deal. That's different. Oh, how is it different? That's different.

Because it's something you want. That's what I remember with Red. With Red, with Debo beat up Red. Yeah. And then he asked him why they didn't help him when he was behind the house rolling dice. He said, that was different. That's different.

Okay, I got you. I'm just saying, Ocho, can we work towards something? What are we working to? What are we working towards? Ocho. We in our 50s, man. We ain't got time to be going through the goddamn rigmarole.

The smoking mirrors. What you trying to do? We grown. Like, listen, when we... He might not be no good cook. Teenagers, I understand.

Teenagers, you know, your 20s, you know, early 30s, you got time to waste and play that game. Y'all done ruined it.

Y'all done ruined it, O'Shea. Y'all done ruined it. Y'all, them young boys ruined it. That's the expectation now. I remember women, they would wait like three or four months

for that. Three, four what? Yes! Three, four months for three, four months. That's what they used to wait. Nah, you must be... What kind of music you listen to? I'm talking about, look, in my era,

that's what I was coming up. Nah, you must be. What kind of music you listen to? I'm talking about, look, in my era, that's what I was coming up. Nah, but ain't somebody lying to you. They ain't lying to me. Ain't nobody waiting no goddamn three, four months. Three, four months for who? They ain't waiting three, four hours. Because they get into it. Today, we have a better understanding

that all that waiting, it makes no sense. There's no point in doing all that. Do you want to be with your ass every goddamn night if that area is not good I can't do this, I can't do it so why waste your time why I can't wait why we can't wait like two weeks, a month a month

what's the difference what's the difference in doing it on the first and doing it on the 31st I didn't say that we couldn't do it I'm just saying do that what's the difference? What's the difference than doing it on the first and doing it on the 31st? I didn't say that we couldn't do it. I'm just saying do that. What's the difference? The big difference. No, it ain't.

First date. When you go to the car wash, you get your car detailed, don't you? Huh? I don't get the full service. You haven't hit the rim. Sometimes I just drive it through.

You go through the drive-thru, I stay in the car. Nah, we don't do no cookies. Y'all do that, what I do, Ocho. Nah, because that's how you end up in the group chat. No cookies. That's how you end up in the group chat. They talking about you.

No, you can't do that. Ocho, let me ask you a question. Women, y'all need to stop that too. Oh, it wasn't that good. He ain't working with nothing. Did it go down? Whether he had eight inches or he had a quarter of an inch,

it happened. It don't matter. Long as it happened, huh? Y'all need to stop that. Y'all get mad and y'all say all kind of hateful, mean things. Don't do that.

Every time. Just move it that. Every time. Just move it along. Every time. Just move along. Say, you know, it didn't work out. You know, I thought he was a nice guy, but it wasn't happening. Y'all go, y'all, see, because men have attached, you know,

sexual proudness, and so women try to break that. Can't break my spirit. Mmm. You right. sexual proudness. And so women try to break that. Can't break my spirit. Hmm. Yeah, you're right. Can't break my spirit. They hurt me. We know what happened.

Do we know what happened? Every day. We are finalizing our Super Bowl plans and need to know how many nightcap fans will be in Vegas and will be interested in purchasing tickets to our live show going to be in Vegas and we're going

to do a live show so we need to kind of like put this thing together to get the size of the venue to make sure because we won't what are we going to do with that that's why we want to get a gauge of how many people that's going to be in Vegas and would like to come purchasing tickets to the live show.

I'm wearing a suit. I don't know about you. I ain't wearing no suit. I'm wearing a suit. Go ahead. I'm going to have my shirt open. I'm going to have my shirt open, have my little chest hair showing. I'm wearing a suit with my good shoes.

They expect me to be in a t-shirt and I ain't gonna disappoint them I'm gonna be in a suit how you gonna be in a t-shirt that's you dressed it's 2024 you said I need to grow up I need you to be in a suit

and be presentable for these people in Vegas it ain't gonna happen I'm in Vegas. I'm wearing a t-shirt. Wait, do you see the t-shirt I got for tomorrow? It's a special one.

I'm going to wear a t-shirt tomorrow too. How you jump from Vegas wearing a suit to wearing a t-shirt tomorrow? Because we're not even in 2024 yet, so I really shouldn't be talking about 2024 yet. I need to be focused on the t-shirt to bar. Because we're not even in 2024 yet, so I really shouldn't be talking about 2024 yet. I need to be focused on the work we have to do before 2023 ends.

Hold on. I'm excited. Tonya Redding. Funny thing is, men talk more than women. Some of them do. I ain't gonna lie to you, Tonya, you're right. You're absolutely right. Some of them talk more,

and that's another problem that I got. Y'all quick to, oh yeah, man, I don't care. So you think because you did that, that's going to prevent me, and I ain't. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Whatever happened before I came in the picture ain't got nothing to do with me. Let me tell y'all something guys if you think by telling me the old man I used to I used to mess with

her that's gonna stop me all you doing is picking me up and put me right in front of him so if you think that's deterring me that's putting obstacles speed breakers walls barriers a prison blah blah it ain't yeah it's not so I don't even want to hit I don't even know why you first of because walls, barriers, a prison, blah, blah, it ain't. Yeah.

It's not. So I don't even want to hear that. I don't even know why you, first of all, you're grown and you're talking like you're in high school. Yeah. Who needs to know that? I mean, a lot of guys do that, obviously, during these times to deter women from dealing with certain individuals.

Yeah. To deter the guy from entertaining a certain woman you know by saying or i call it i think the key is called a throwing salt on someone's name uh it's unfortunate obviously i haven't been in those situations being that i've um i've been um kind of off the market like boston for while now. Well, that was bars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You heard that bar? You heard that bar?

Yeah. I'm getting ready to get into battle rap, so I'll be having all type of schemes. You just have to catch them as we talk. But yeah, yeah, it's a dirty game. It always has been. Yeah, but I don't know. But Ocho, no matter what,

this is what, through my experience, I don't care what another man says about a man or a woman. If that woman want that guy, she gonna get him. I don't care if you say he slept with a thousand women

in the last 24 hours. She say, well, I'm about to be a thousand and one. Yep, because she want to know. If he was able to sleep with 1,000, I want to know why he was able to. Right. And if you say something about another dude or if you say something about that woman, all he do like, oh, it's just best to keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself. Curiosity kills the cat.

But they, man, they deep deep. Y'all don't got to win. It used to be, it used to be. keep it to yourself curiosity kills the cat but they man they deep deep y'all don't got to win it used to be it used to be whatever you did you did now

they got to man y'all talk too much all of y'all men and women all y'all talk too effing much not me keep your mouth closed

why you telling yeah why you snitching? Dry snitching, because most of the time ain't nobody even ask you. Dry snitching, unprompted answers. Ain't nobody ask you, did you know me? Ain't nobody ask you, did you?

Oh, yeah, you know back in the day. Shut up! Yeah. They make me mad, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. DB says, Shay Ocho love y'all. I struggle finding a woman

through social media. How does it work? Should I just focus on myself and let one come to me? Whoa, whoa, whoa. How you struggling finding a woman on social media? Yeah, what I want to know.

One, you can go outside. You can find them there. You can find them on social media. You can find women in church. You can find women at the library. You can find women at the gas station. There's so many places you can find women. I don't find women at the library because I ain't going.

That shouldn't. Huh? You ain't going to the library? Hell no. Okay. But I'm talking about Buddy. Buddy, Buddy. Women's everywhere.

But one, you got, it's so easy to find, but it's all about staying within your lane. Stay within your the cap. Sometimes below the cap. Right now, the Bengals are $84 million below the cap. Sometimes you got to go that route to have an efficient team. You know, you, Joe Burrow. Get you one that just got released. Yeah. Right there. Get you one that's vulnerable. Yeah, get you one that just got released.

Get you one that's vulnerable. Dude just left crying. And listen, you ain't got to go for no 10. You don't need a 10. You don't need a 10. You know what you need? You need a six that when she get dressed up, she's a seven and a half or eight. That's all you need.

That's all you need. Get you a six when she just, you know, chilling. But when she put her clothes on, she about a seven, eight and a half. Boom. You set. You set. You set. You ain't got to worry about everybody trying to holler.

I mean, everybody ain't trying to holler at no six. You're comfortable. That's a lie. It all depends. It all depends, Ocho. I can go get a woman. I guarantee I can go get a woman

right now, 500 pounds. Yeah. In the mere fact, Shannon Sharp, where does somebody else going to want her? There ain't nobody thinking about her. That's how it operate. You think about this. And's how it operate. You think

about this. And I tell the story all the time. My first college girlfriend, I watched her walk across the yard. I told my college roommate at the time, I said, that's going to be my girlfriend. I'm just going to see how it play out. She walked across from the hall all the way back to Lockett. She walked

down the step. Ain't nobody said a word. Right. I saw her. I was standing in the hall with a bathroom. And I saw her. I ran out there. I said, hey, what's your name?

She said, such and such. I ain't going to call her name. No, say the name. Say the name, huh? Anybody that went to Savannah State didn't know exactly who I'm talking about. Tasha? OK, go ahead. I said, what's your name?

She said, my name is such and such, but everybody called me this. I said, okay. I said, what do you want me to call you? She said, you can call me my nickname. I said, okay. I said, you dating anybody? She said, no. She said, I'm just, you know, I'm here to, you know, get my you know, I want to go to school. I want to graduate. You know, we started talking. She said, I got a son. I said, okay.

They ain't got no problem. I said, you know, hey, if I F with you, I got a son too. You they ain't got no problem I said you know hey if I F with you I got a son too you know I'm like that yeah I'm about it you know hey you in the dough you in the dough that one oh she ain't she's fine in the dough so I'm I'm saying hey ain't nobody I ain't nobody said nothing I walk by in the hall ain't nobody said a word to her. So, the next day, I see her in the hall. So, you know, we start talking. I walk into class.

Oh, wait, did you carry your books? I didn't carry a book. Oh, sure. I walk into class. I see her walking to the cafeteria. Guys hanging on like lions on a wheel to beasts. God damn. Ain't nobody thought about it until

they saw O'Shea. Until they saw O'Shea shot with him. Yeah. I say even some of my teammates. What? Them boys trying to double, they trying to backdoor you? Everybody wanted what O'Shea had.

They trying to backdoor you, boy? Ocho, you have what you have to understand. I'm big dog. Yeah. I'm the H-N on the campus. Yeah. I got a 300 Z. I got a brother in the NFL. I'm wearing polo. I'm wearing eyes out. I'm wearing

jeans. Yeah, you're that boy. Yeah. So everybody trying to beat my time. But you know, I was Usain Bolt. I laid a blistering time down. They couldn't touch it. Yeah, yes sir. And then, you know, I said, come on, man. So this is what I found out.

The moment they found out, they didn't, ain't nobody talked to her. I watched her. Yeah. I hustled her from the day I saw her, I started hustling. I said, God dang, man. Maybe everybody was scared to say something, but

when they saw you say something... Now they got courage. Now they got confidence. Right. Nah, but that's okay. I said, okay. Hey, so you know what I did, Ocho? I said, hey, won't you come to the game? She said, I was going... Wait, did you give her I did, Ocho? I said, hey, won't you come to the game? She said, hmm, I was going. Wait, did you give her your jersey, though?

No. Hell, Samantha State, we ain't have no, we ain't have. No, no, no. I said, come to the game. I said, hey, I put on a mofo show. Yeah. I put on a mofo show. I put on a show.

Yeah, let's go. So homecoming rolled around. Yeah. I said, my mom coming. My sister, because by that time we had started dating. So I had to enjoy. Hold on, hold on. What, she got to meet mama?

She got to meet my mom. Oh, this shit's serious now. I got to stand up. At this point in time, my mom had never seen me play. Right. So I go tell coach, I say, hey coach, my mom coming in time, blah, blah, blah. Now, I had to drove in the middle of the night

to let my sister see. Let my sister meet her. Because, you know, my sister now, you know, my sister's a good judge. So I'm going to let whatever buck say, that's kind of my measuring stick.

Because she got a good feel. Right. So, she's sitting over there. So everybody, so when my mom came, you know, she's sitting next to. So when my mom came, she's sitting next to my mom and my sister. I show my...

Ah, let's go, boy. I said, come on with it. I said, come on with it. And the thing was, Ocho, now, prior to that, I ain't let nobody drive my car. I ain't never let nobody drive my car. So we had. You let her get the whip. Oh, Joe. So check this out.

Oh, she said, she said, let's go. So check this out. So. We had practice. So she got I said, can you do me a favor? Yeah. I said, I got some laundry and I need it washed. I need it, can you do it? She's like, yeah. Wait, what, she went to the laundromat for you?

Took everything. Oh, that's the one. Ocho, check this out. That's the one. Ocho, you know how you go to the laundry and when you come back, all that stuff all folded. Yeah. She had everything folded, like colors, like whites,

whites, lights, and darks. If I didn't know better, I thought she worked in retail. Man, she had everything folded. Hey, that's the one, boy. That is the one, boy. You got to go back and get that. Man, I'm 55.

That's the one, boy. You got to go back and get that on. Man, I'm 55. That's the one, boy. She had your clothes folded. Whites, lights, and darks. In college. In college. In college. You know what that mean? But she had structure.

That's what you've been missing. That mean O'Shea gave her a mean one the first time. That's what it means. O'Shea gave her a mean one. Yeah, okay, okay. Hey, listen, I see where you're going. I see where you're going, but I ain't trying to get in no trouble. I'm more than a doghouse. I know what you're talking about.

I know you're... Hey, you parked that blue diamond? Nah, there wasn't no diamonds back then. There wasn't no diamonds back then? Well, I was like a truck on Red Bull all night! Hey! Boy, I don't shake with hell! Boy, I don't shake with hell

with it well now! Let's go! Bam! Oh, shit. I like that. I like that. Hell with it. Well, now, oh, shit. I like that. I like that. Well, that's a good story.

You got to go find her, man. Oh, Joe, I ain't going to lie. Oh, Joe, to be able to be between the ages of 19 and 20,

19 and 21. I get $2 million cash money right now. If I could just be the age 19 or 21, the 19 to 21. With what you know now, but be able to go back. Boy. But you know what,

because I'm going to have to have a freshman because I ain't got time to put no legs back together. But I have to have... Yo, let's hit Ocho. Ocho! Know what I know now? It's 19 to 21! Yeah. It's dark.

Oh, my God. Man. Ocho born back in the day. Listen, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Oh, man. That was a good one. That's a good one.

Rel just donated $400. I'm going to have all the women showing up in Vegas with sundresses. Baby, I love you. Hey. Baby. Baby sent us. She sent us $400 for real? She sent us $400.

Damn. Baby. Baby. I got, I'm going to have a team, I'm going to have a team with me in Vegas. I'm ready. I got, I got my team. I got the whole, I got the whole team. She said you're going to need security out there in Vegas. Probably.

Oh, yeah. You don't say, listen, boy, during the time, too, and you know how you talk about, you ain't got to worry about nothing. What? They're giving you that money. You're giving that money away.

They're going to be there. Oh, definitely they coming to watch. They coming to see us live now. Oh, they coming. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They ain't going to be no problem.. Ain't going to be no problem. Ain't going to be no problem.

But you know, at night it get cold in Vegas. You know, it get cold. It's going to probably be in like the 60s at night. That's why I'm going to be in a suit. Huh?

What you saying? I might have on a fur like one of them Detroit players. No, I ain't going to have no fur on. But we're going to be inside. We're doing the day.

Yeah. Yeah, man. You know, hey, come on, But we're going to be inside. We're doing the day. Yeah. Yeah, man. You know, hey, man, you know when them pool party, they're going to be having a pool party in Vegas. But we're going to be busy, Ocho. We got to be working. I got to be working. Man, I can't wait, bro.

I can't wait either. Ocho, we got to go back. We got to go back. We got to go back, you know, have us a, you know, voyage trip. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, where we going? We going to Vegas.

Okay, okay. I thought you meant a voyage trip. But it got to be in the summer. Yeah. See what I'm talking about? What'd you say? You trying to get my ass hemmed up, man. Well, you could come, but you got to stay in the room while me and Ocho out

We gonna sit around on the shopping street Where you go shopping? Tell her she gonna slip some melatonin in my drink Listen, I'm going out Wherever we go, I'm a Euro step in that thing You hear me? Damn, man Hey, when you Euro stepping I'ma shoot Euro-step in that thing. You hear me? Damn, man.

Hey, when you Euro-stepping, I'm going to shoot light-stepped curve from distance. Let's go. Let's go. Hey, please make sure... Oh, where are we at now, Ash? Subs. I think we picked up a couple of thousand. Oh, man, I love this.

This is going to be live. We're now, Ocho, at 585,000 subs, which means subscribers. Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you. 585. I think we've gained 200,000. Actually, 203,000. We started this on December 1st. We had gained 200,000. Actually, 203,000. We started

on December 1st. We had 382,000. Right now, we're 585,000. So we've gained 203,000 subscribers in one month. Actually, in 29 days. That's crazy when you think about it, man.

December 31st. Remember, you showed me December 1st, we had 382. think about it. December 31st. So, December 1st. Remember, you showed me December 1st, we're at 382. I appreciate y'all. 12.01 a.m. Okay, so we still got some time. 25. So, make sure you hit that like button.

Make sure you hit that subscribe button. You can make sure you subscribe to the Nightcast podcast feed. You can also get the Nightcast podcast feed through Club Shay Shay. So as a matter of fact, just go ahead and do both of them. Also, we've pinned Shay by LaPorte at the top of the chat. Please make sure you go ahead and get yourself a bottle or someone that you love. You got New Year's, you got Valentine's Day, President's Day, and St. Patrick's Day. So do

yourself a favor and go get yourself or someone you love a special bottle. Thank you again for joining us. What's today, Sunday? We on tomorrow. You said today's Saturday. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We on tomorrow. Oh, this thing will be on. We on. We on. We gonna be on when

the ball drop on. I don't know about all that, Ocho. Ooh, look at this right here. Ocho, I bet you ain't never seen these. Uh-huh. I mean, if you play for North Carolina Tar Heels, yeah, I would understand that, but I don't understand you actually wearing that.

It on powder blue. You don't who? Who got these right here? Oh. I am. I don't like powder blue like that. I like powder blue. If I'm going to be. I'm going to start.

I'm going to start showing my shoe. Man, don't you show. Don't you show them. Don't cook out 3000. You had on the other day. My shoes. Man, don't you show them cookout 3000s you had on the other day. Hold on. Show my shoes. Man, them basic ASICs.

I mean, I'm a basic dude. I live a basic life, so I wear a basic shoe. Man, wear them cookout 3000s. Them y'all got a buckle and a strap on them. Nah, it's just a little fashion, you know. Sometimes I like to spice it up a little bit, you know. Yeah. So again, thank you for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it.

Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button to make sure because the schedule is going to be a little different this week because of no Monday night football, no Thursday night football. So just make sure you have a make sure you subscribe so you can always always to know when

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