Nightcap - Nightcap - Cowboys Outlast Seahawks, LeBron Skipping A Game, Best Receivers Ever

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the exciting Cowboys win over the Seahawks (2:00), Tyreek Hill's comments about Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs (10:30), Deion Sanders winn...ing a surprising award (22:00), LeBron James skipping a Lakers game for his son's debut (24:30), a wild T.I. story (42:00), and the best receivers in NFL history (55:00).   #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:23 And make sure you get notified every time Nightcap is on because we will be popping up sometimes unannounced. We've also pinned the Shade by LaPorte pin link at the top of the page. Holidays are right around the corner, so make sure you go out to get some for yourself or loved ones. Ocho, let's get right into it. The Cowboys beat the Seahawks 45-31. Dak Prescott 29-41 of 41 299 three touchdowns gino smith 23 of 41 334 three touchdown one interception uh third straight okay the seahawks had three straight four downs that doomed them near midfield selling otherwise an outstanding
Starting point is 00:05:02 offensive performance michael went unblocked on fourth and two. I don't know what offensive play you call and say, you know what? We're going to turn their best defensive player. We're going to let him run unabated to our quarterback. The funny thing about it, they did a great job blocking him the entire goddamn game, except the last play when
Starting point is 00:05:19 it really mattered. And you turned him scot-free. Turned him scot-free. So what were some of your takeaways, Ojo? Listen, my takeaway, obviously, I'm not sure who slated this game before the season started, but this was the best Thursday night game by far. By none.
Starting point is 00:05:35 One of the best games actually all goddamn season. The offense, this is one of the games where you always talked about when you don't get pick sixes and turnovers from your defense, will Dak be able to win and carry that offense? That is exactly what he did tonight. CeeDee Lamb on third down, super duper clutch.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, he had one drop on that fourth and two. He said, my bad. But other than that, Dak showed why his name should be in the MVP conversation and why he is one of the best. You don't like me using the word elite, but his play the past few weeks, it's just that.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's been elite, especially tonight. Tonight is when you need a Dak to show, listen, my defense is not playing that well. Geno, when that offense is marching down the field, DK Metcalf was going crazy, boy. He was going crazy. They put some seasoning on Bland tonight, Ocho. They put seasoning on Bland. They put some seasoning on him. tonight, Ocho. They put seasoning on Bland.
Starting point is 00:06:25 They put some seasoning on him. Listen, they put a little seasoning, but he took a bite out of you, though. He took a bite out of him, especially Tyler Locker ran that lazy-ass out route, and Bland, once again, picked it right off. Ocho, tell me what's the only route you're going to run from that split. Yeah. And you start leaning with it from the jump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh, he was leaning. He was leaning heavy. Hey, he was leaning like Fat Joe. Yeah, but other than that. He was, Ocho. Yeah. The Cowboys, what I saw tonight, Ocho, the way I measure a team, if you're good offensively, if you're good defensively,
Starting point is 00:06:59 can you get done what you need to get done when you have to? When Dak needed a touchdown to take the lead, what did they do? They went and got it. Yes, sir. The defense, okay get done when you have to. When Dak needed a touchdown to take the lead, what did they do? They went and got it. Yes, sir. The defense, okay, you say you like that. Can you get a stop? Not only can we get one, we're going to stop him three times in a row on fourth down at midfield.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah. That's the mark of a team. And like you said, defensively, you're not going to always have it. So, okay, offense, our defense don't got it tonight. They're not going to get a five turnover. They're not going to sack a five turnover. They're not going to sack Geno six or seven times. So, when we get our opportunities,
Starting point is 00:07:30 we're going to have to cash. And that's what they did tonight. That's the mark of a good football team. A really, really good football team. Because can I go get done what I need to get done when I absolutely have to have it? And the offense, touchdown, field goal, field goal, defense, stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So I was very impressed with what I saw last night. And considering we just saw the 49ers beat the Brakes. Beat the Brakes off the Seahawks. And so I was expecting the Cowboys to pretty much do the same thing because you and I both know how hard it is for the division opponent. No matter how sorry the division opponent is, no matter how good you are, it's just something about playing in a division opponent. Yeah. No, you know, your tendencies know what you like to do. And so it makes it a lot tougher. But. Give the Seahawks credit.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They came in nice to get a great job. Probably should have won the game because on one of those drives, the Cowboys, they got five penalties. They kept the drive alive with penalty after penalty. I think they have five penalties for 23 for 22 yards, but give the Cowboys credit. Oh,
Starting point is 00:08:37 Joe, they, they, they played well. They did what they needed to do. Again. Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 00:08:42 they were four, eight in the red zone. Now you play the 49ers. You're going to get beat. You go for eight in the red zone now you play the 49ers you're gonna get beat you go four eight in the red zone right you play the eagles you're gonna get beat you go four eight in the red zone but they play well i like what i saw uh from the cowboys tonight give them credit now they got 10 days off to get ready i think they got the eagles coming up in 10 days yeah yeah i'm not saying don they have the Eagles? So what do you think about Dak being an MVP conversation? He should.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah. Okay. 23. So I think he had 23 touchdowns and six interceptions. So now he has 26 and six. Yeah, he'll be in the MVP discussion. And rightfully so. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I think Lamar Jackson is going to be in the MVP discussion. I think Jalen Hurst will be in the MVP discussion. Tristan McCaffrey will be in the MVP discussion. CJ Shroud. CJ Shroud. The way he's playing. Got to put his name in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I think, I don't know if he's going to have enough wins, Ocho, to really kind of garner. Because his stats are going to say yes. I mean, he's second in the league in passing yards. So his stats are going to say yes. I just don't know if he's going to have the win total that would warrant the real attention going to him. Now, you know, they must run and win.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Who knows? They win the AFC South, which is going to probably take 10, 11 wins. Who knows? All bets could be off. I think Tyreek will end up being in that discussion. But here's the thing, Ocho, you know what happened. The wide receiver has 2,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:10:05 The quarterback got to have at least 45 to 5,000 yards. 5,000 yards, yeah. So they're going to be chipping up each other. They're chopping each other's boats up. But yeah, Dak definitely should be in the MVP discussion
Starting point is 00:10:17 considering the way he's played, especially the last month and a half, two months of the season. Yeah. Absolutely. Playing real good football. And you know, on the flip side, Geno played a hell of a game. DK Metcalf played a hell of a game.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I want to see, even though they lost, even though they lost, and I know DK going to see this, I need you to take over games like that week in and week out. Week in and week out, I need you to do exactly what you did tonight. I don't care who you planned. You have to impose your will on everybody you play. If it's all for the coordinator, if you got to talk to Geno, if they got to
Starting point is 00:10:50 move you around a little bit more, you got to show up like that every time y'all play, man. And you make that offense go. That offense needs to go through you. Ocho, you know, sometimes in games like this, it comes down to a miss. You remember that play that had Lockett?
Starting point is 00:11:05 And Lockett was lazy getting out the break, and Geno hit him in the head and the ball. Now you're going to get the ball on the 20-yard line with a first down. That was a beautiful time and through. That was a beautiful – man, he let the ball go before he even came out the break. That was beautiful. Yes, yes, yes. And that's why you got to – what the quarterback always say,
Starting point is 00:11:23 you got to snap that head around. Before anything else, that head got to come around. It got to. It got to, Ojo. But see, my head had to come around fast because I was playing with a strong-armed quarterback. So if you laid it with your head, he going to hit you upside the head. And the people laughing at you, like, oh, look at you. You think you're playing soccer, the ball all upside upside your head so he was a little lazy with it
Starting point is 00:11:49 he knew it he knew it yeah but uh that's the difference that when you're a team that win ball games you guys make those plays when you lose in ball games you find ways to miss those plays let's go talk about tyreek tyreek said he felt like the side chick. He went on RG3's podcast, and I don't know if he's joking or serious. He said, Pat and Kelsey, I was kind of jealous. I was hurt, bro. I was hurt. Patrick, you ain't never invited me over to your house like you did Kelsey. You always invited Kelsey, and that's why we're here where we're at now. I've never been anybody's side chick before. Never always in my whole life, high school, middle school, all the quarterbacks, I was their main chick always.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'd go to KC, and now I'm the side chick. That's funny. That's funny. Obviously, Tyreek being very, very facetious, you take what he's saying with a grain of salt, a little humor, a little comedy to it, but I understand what he's saying. His security blanket, it is Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And it always has been, always will be. But Tyreek, again, being as special as he is, he made that offense even more special than what it already was. He made it more special
Starting point is 00:12:58 and dynamic than it already was. Obviously, you can see it's still struggling a little bit, you know, with the ups and downs that they're having now. Not having a true number one receiver that can not only take the top off of defense, but can run those intermediate routes, can run those shallow routes and bounce his head off the goalpost from
Starting point is 00:13:13 anywhere on the field. That's somebody special. That's why anytime I talk about Tyreek, I always put him in a category completely by his God to himself because we've never seen anything like that before. Other than that, I mean, it's funny. I love his sense of humor, too. He's one of the few players that is playing today that keeps the game
Starting point is 00:13:32 entertaining, and it forces you and makes you want to tune in to see what's next. Did Carson ever invite you over to his house? No, no, because they know I wouldn't go. They know I wasn't showing up. Listen, when we leave that stadium, I'm doing two things. I'm going to Cigar Bar, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:13:51 the Jazz Club, listen to some jazz sets, or I'm on my video game. I'm not doing nothing else. Don't invite me to your house because I'm not showing up. Yeah, I mean, we used to go early in my career, we had a teammate, an Italian teammate named Reggie Johnson. And his girl would cook.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And she was an excellent cook. And we'd go over there, shoot pool, play cards. That was the thing. You know, we'd play in tongue. You know, we'd play in boulevard. What you know about tongue, man? You know about tongue. You know about all that.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And so I went to a – but I was not a big – I was not a guy big into going to other people's house. That wasn't my thing. I see you guys there at work. Once I leave work, I want
Starting point is 00:14:38 to go do my own thing. I want to be to myself. Occasionally, we went out. I wasn't a big go-out type of a guy either, but I get it. Some guys, they hung out. They went to each other's house, but that wasn't my thing, Ocho, either. I wasn't big into going to teammates' house
Starting point is 00:14:53 either. The funny thing about once you get outside, what I did do, we didn't hang out at each other's houses, but the receivers, the receiver room, we did some things together sometimes. We'd go to dinner, we'd go to dinner and chop it up, do some things of that nature,
Starting point is 00:15:11 but going to someone's house and just nothing wrong with it, it's just something I didn't do. Well, I think when Mike got there, what we did do is that he would have what we call casino night.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So once you break and the guy that was going to make the team, he'd have a casino night. So they have blackjack, they have craps table, they have all that. And so everybody, he invited everybody over to come down with his wife. They're having, you know, they're having all this food and everybody would show up. And that was really fun. So because we got an opportunity to win some really nice prizes,
Starting point is 00:15:43 pearl necklaces and trips, vacation, things like, things of that nature. So yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing, Mike was big, Mike was big on team bonding. So we go to train camp, we'd have a day,
Starting point is 00:15:58 we go bowling. We have a day. So it'd be offense against the defense. So you get your, your 10 best offensive players, the 10 best defensive players, and we bowl against each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Okay? Then we'd have a fishing derby. You know, whoever catch the first fish, whoever catch the most fish, whoever catch the biggest fish. Oh, yeah. Mike was big into that. He would give us like, okay, guys, had a great week of practice. We had a good couple days of practice.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'm going to give you the night off. Don't get in any trouble. Hey, we go, you know, hey, guys go to the movies. Guys back in Greeley, this place called the Smiling Moose. Guys would go up there, blow off a couple of little steams, have a couple of drinks. But it was great. Mike was big.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Mike was big in the team building. Team, get the guy, know the guy other besides that he played D-line and that his number is 95. Know something about the guy. Know something about him. He got kids. He got a mom. Yeah, know something about him.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So that's one aspect of it that I really appreciated about Mike. I like that casino night idea. The only part, I wish I could have been a part of something like that. Something to that magnitude, because I think if, if there was ever been a time where I would gamble, actually spend a little money for a change, it would have to be,
Starting point is 00:17:13 they gave you, he gave you money. So like he gave you like money. Yeah. So like he would come, like you would come and he give you say like, I think like $3,500. Oh,
Starting point is 00:17:23 real, real money. No, no, no. It was, it was, but you know, the money was fake, but you get an opportunity
Starting point is 00:17:28 to whoever have the most money at the end of the night get to buy prizes. Ah, with the fake money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you get an opportunity to buy the pearl necklace or the diamond necklace
Starting point is 00:17:39 or the trip somewhere. So that's how we did that. It is live. So what we do, you know, we do, you know, your boy had to hook that thing up. You know, your boy good with the dice. Your boy good at blackjack. So a couple of guys said,
Starting point is 00:17:51 hey, Sharp, this is what we gonna do. We gonna give you our money. Go ahead and make that thing work for you. I'm looking to flip. You know, I'm gonna hit a lick now. You know, your boy. Right, right, right. You know, rolling them dice.
Starting point is 00:18:02 You know, nine, my point. Born in 54, died in 63. What's my point, Ocho? I give it to you. Oh, man. Oh, we had that thing. That thing was lit. That's dope.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You know what, Ocho, and I tell people, that's what you miss. Yeah. The game is the game and the money. I miss things like that. The bus ride, the casino night, the fishing derbies, the bowling. Those are the things that you, because you're never going to be able to do that again. Nah. You're never going to be able to do that again.
Starting point is 00:18:38 You can't simulate it either. You can't replicate it. No matter how much you try, you can't. Nah. Because you know, hey, guys are competitive. You know, you might start off bull-jobbing, but now you going up there to bowl, the guys in your ear, the guy doing the worm, the moonwalking, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Oh, yeah. He do it all kind of stuff to try to throw you off your game. They yelling. Come on, bro. You can't be yelling in the bowling. They yelling and screaming. They throwing stuff up in there throw the towel
Starting point is 00:19:06 they eat popcorn yeah but those are the days check this out Tyreek Tyreek got two stories today Tyreek says he'll cover the salary
Starting point is 00:19:15 of the videographer that was suspended by the NFL Kevin Fitzgibbons a 20 year old University of Miami student had been working Dolphins games
Starting point is 00:19:24 since 2022, released a video of how the league disciplined him after Tyreek used his phone to celebrate a touchdown backflip. Fitz Givens said after Tyreek celebrated with his phone, he sent the video to the NFL, but then later was notified he would be suspended for the remainder of the season and possibly for good because
Starting point is 00:19:46 he had to be disciplined. They said, guess what they suspended for? Because he jumped up and down. Listen, the NFL, obviously, it's all about control. Yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:20:03 always been about control. It's always been about control. It's always been about control. They pick and choose when they want to enforce certain rules, depending on who it is. At this point, it's ridiculous, man. This is entertainment. Again, Tyreek being one of the most
Starting point is 00:20:18 entertaining players in the league, in the game today, getting someone that's a part of the NFL involved in something that you want, a celebration. Not only was it a celebration, it was a very creative celebration, one that had never been done before. And you want eyes tuned into the games. And that is what he's doing. This is a game about entertainment. So when someone chooses to do just that, entertain, why do you fine him for it?
Starting point is 00:20:45 And now you have someone losing their job. And from what I understand, I think Tyreek is going to... Yes, he's going to cover the guy's salary. He's going to cover the guy's salary, you know, for the year.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But I think the internet... But guess what they did? Huh? Guess what they did? What? When you sent that video to them, they released it, didn't they? On all their platforms.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course they did. You so upset at the guy. Why you put it out? Yeah. It's the same thing. Go ahead, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Go ahead. You know why they put it out. Because it's entertainment. It's going to get eyes. It's going to get the fans engaged. It's going to get everybody watching. It makes no sense. The powers that be.
Starting point is 00:21:23 The people that sit up there in positions of power with the suit and ties, this is what you want for your game. This is what you want players doing. Now, maybe you know what you tell Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Listen, or you tell the guy, you can't be doing that. You can't be, you know, having your phone and flipping. Boom, I understand. You know, but you don't
Starting point is 00:21:39 suspend the guy for exactly what you want. Exactly what you want. So what you expect the guy to do? The guy 20 years old. The guy just, somebody just, some NFL player, not just some. Tyreek Hill just took my phone, did a back flip, doing a selfie.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And you don't think I'm about to be excited. I'm a Dolphins fan at the end of the day. I don't care what anybody tells you. Whoever works in the NFL office, they have a team. And when their team scores, they celebrate. When their team does something good, they celebrate. Most definitely. Most definitely.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And I think the excuse, they definitely suspended because they're jumping around. It was a bull drive. It was a bull drive. And they would never be honest on why they did. But the NFL, the powers that be, I'm sure you guys are going to see this. You see everything that we do. Let's do what's right. If at any moment or any chance
Starting point is 00:22:30 you have, let's do it right for the young fella, man, and get him his job back. And give him a raise because you're embarrassed the man. You talk about, oh, we've got to discipline you? Why? Tell me why you got to do it. What did he do? He didn't disrupt the game. He didn't run on the field. He didn't run on the field.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He didn't run on the field and hand Tyreek the camera. Tyreek came and took the camera out of his hand. Out of his hand, yeah. He's like, because I couldn't believe it. I'm telling my team, Tyreek just scored a touchdown and did a black backflip while taking a selfie. I'd have been jumping up and down too. Unheard of.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's unheard of. Just the creativity, the authenticity of what he was able to do is unheard of. It shouldn't be... It's ridiculous at this point. It's to say, Ocho, I see.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I know you remember when they used to have big heads and jacked up. They packaged that for years. And then all of a sudden when guys said for concussions and they wanted money, well, what?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Oh, y'all been packaging Jack up and great as his for 60 years. Yeah, but you know, that all ends when you got to come out of pocket. It all ended. Deion Sanders wins SI Sportsman of the Year.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Was Deion winning the SI award the right choice? I guess they stopped the voting in September? Oh, that's what the people are saying. The people are saying they stopped. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, I was going to say. I mean, I guess because they said, you know, he was four and what, four and oh, three and one.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And now all of a sudden he had this losing streak. So therefore, basically, he should be disqualified from being SI Sportsperson of the Year. Absolutely not. He deserves exactly what he deserves. He deserves to be on the cover, on the SI cover. What he was able to do at that program in such a short amount of time, they went 1-11 last year. They went 1-11 last year.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I understand he went 3-0 or 3-1 or 4-1 or whatever it might have been. He-11 last year. They went 1-11 last year. I understand he went 3-0 or 3-1 or 4-1 or whatever it might have been and he lost the last eight. But still, to be able to go into a program like that, bring your own luggage with you and change it for the better
Starting point is 00:24:34 and it will only continue to get better because, you know, with the portal and then when the season ends, you know, you have transfers and all that other stuff that goes on. And he told you before
Starting point is 00:24:43 the season started, what do I need to compete? What do I need to compete? I need O-line and D-line. O-line and D-line. I need my meat and potatoes. That is the only way I'm going to be able to compete. So we understand the landscape of what he has and the roster that he has.
Starting point is 00:24:57 He doesn't have a roster to compete with the UCLAs or the USCs or the Oregons or the Utah, you know, teams of that magnitude. But once he gets them in, you're going to continue to see that record improve year in and year out. I'm not sure why people are upset that he won that award. Who else are you going to give it to? Think about it. Tell me who else you're going to give it to except another team that wins every single year.
Starting point is 00:25:23 What college? What college coach? No, it don't necessarily. I don't think SIA has to be a college coach. Maybe people think Nikola Jokic could have won it. Or like I said, I don't know the candidates who was up for the award. The right person won the award. The right person won the award,
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Starting point is 00:29:13 Family over everything. Yeah. What is your take on this? You got damn right. Shit. I miss a game too. I would definitely miss a game. He already got 88 82 up anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And missing one ain't going to hurt, especially to see your son, his first collegiate basketball game. Absolutely. And the funny thing about it is I'm not sure if anybody would actually have a problem with LeBron missing a game to see his son play being who he is. I'm sure they would. You think they would? I think some would because the simple
Starting point is 00:29:47 fact is that you sign up for stuff like this. You're going to miss recitals. You're going to miss stuff. Let me ask you a question. If it's a playoff game, game seven, you missing it? What are you saying, game seven? Wait, wait, wait. Time out. We talking about hypotheticals. You said family over everything.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So if it's family over everything, it's family over everything in all situations. So again, let me ask you. Playoff game, game seven, NBA finals. You missing it. That's different. I don't think he's missing it. Why not?
Starting point is 00:30:14 No, it ain't family over everything. It just so happens to be family. So he's looking at these games. He's looking at these games. Like I said, me, I would because I'm going all in, Ocho. You already know. You hear me talk. You know how I am about football, I would because I'm going all in, Ocho. You already know. You hear me talk.
Starting point is 00:30:27 You know how I am about football. You know how I am about any sport. I give it my all. Nightcap, like I said, I spent $300,000 on a season ticket and went to one game. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Come on back home to me now. Come on back home to me now.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I told you about spending money like that. You spent $300,000 on Lakers tickets? And how many games have I been to, Ocho? I don't know because I don't watch basketball. One. My daughter, I took my daughter, it was my daughter's birthday, I took on a Thursday. I signed up to do nightcap. I signed up
Starting point is 00:30:58 to do nightcap with you Sunday, Monday, Thursday. Oh, so you missed out on the game because of our union. Because this is what I signed up for. Boy, you know what? You are right, boy. I don't care what they say about you, boy. Oh, so you're missing out on the game because of our union. Because this is what I signed up for. Boy, you know what? You are right, boy. I don't care what they say about you. Boy, you are right with me.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Now, if you want me to fly, we can do it. I can come to L.A. I can do nightcap right there next to you so we can go to the Lakers game because I ain't got no problem. Let me know. I don't want you to waste no $300,000. Boy, tickets cost that much? Man, this is the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I don't know who paid for the tickets at Philly but it's a whole different animal out here bro it's a whole different animal yeah I think I think I don't Doug
Starting point is 00:31:31 Doug works some magic with that Doug works some magic 300,000 yeah like for season tickets yeah god damn
Starting point is 00:31:40 for two so all them people be at the courtside to lick again they got they got money like that
Starting point is 00:31:50 you see who be sitting down there don't you yeah yeah yeah yeah and you go down there everybody wearing
Starting point is 00:31:58 paddocks everybody wearing APs everybody wearing rollers everybody iced out everybody yeah
Starting point is 00:32:04 yeah yeah they got it like that oh joe yeah i listen i i never forget i said i sat courtside with my son my son was little he might have been maybe five five or six me i sat next to denzel this was years ago i'm not playing around i'm sure you could find the picture you could google it or just pop it up and that was the last time i sat courtside and Ms. Buss actually gave me those tickets back then. This was so long ago because my son was yay high. He got a picture with Kobe. Man, my son might have been
Starting point is 00:32:31 five or six. Yeah. I'll never forget that. But hold on. That was only for 300,000 for only like 22 games. Whoa, whoa. You said 22 games. Wait a minute. You said, you said, wait a minute. You said. I get courtside for 22 games. Yeah. There's 42 games.
Starting point is 00:32:51 There's 42 games. It's 41 games. Oh, okay. You play 41 on the road. Right. 41 at home. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I thought you said 20. I thought you said 21. I'm like, Whoa. Yeah. That's what I got. I got 21 games and somebody else got 20 games. Oh, so you don't got the whole 40?
Starting point is 00:33:13 The whole 40 would have cost me about $750,000. Oh, nigga. Oh, hell nah. Man, you bullshit, man. Man, you know I wouldn't lie to you about that, Ocho. You got me thinking you got the whole 41 home games. Nah, nah. I wouldn't lie to you about that, Ocho. You got me thinking you got the whole 41-41 home game. Nah, nah, we had a lottery system.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I pick a game, he pick a game. I pick a game, he pick a game. Nah, man. Man, they got me fucked up, man. My bad, my bad, my bad. I'm just saying, Ocho. God damn. I signed up
Starting point is 00:33:43 to do nightcap Sunday night, Monday night, and if there was a game on Friday, Friday night. If there's a game on Saturday, Saturday night, Monday night. That's what I signed up for. Right, right, right. It doesn't call for me to say, okay, you know what, Ocho? I did that.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That was a one-off. Had that not been my daughter's birthday, and at the time when I got the tickets, I didn't even know we were going to do a nightcap. That was a one-off. Had that not been my daughter's birthday. Right. And at the time when I got the tickets, I didn't even know we was going to do a nightcap. Right. So I got the tickets way before I had purchased the ticket. Because I'm like, oh, your boy's going to be, hey, your boy's going to be sitting at that thing.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'll be there all the time. They're going to be like, damn. Yeah. And then I get there and they're like, okay, nightcap is a possibility. You and I talk. We have a meeting. Like, okay. But I'm already at 300 grand. Yeah. Yeah. And then I get, then they're like, okay, nightcap is a possibility. You and I talk, we have a meeting. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:25 okay, but I'm already at 300 grand. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, okay, what am I going to do? So I told,
Starting point is 00:34:32 I said, baby, I do. Hey, she's like, dad, because she told me, she said,
Starting point is 00:34:36 dad, I appreciate that. Cause she's like, I know you don't miss work for nothing. You don't miss work for nothing, daddy. She's like, I don't,
Starting point is 00:34:44 she's like, I ain't got that kind of work as a dad. Cause I missed my job at a bit. I said, I don't miss work for nothing, daddy. Right. She's like, I ain't got that kind of work as a dad because I missed my job at a bid. I said, I don't pay. But that's the way I'm wired. Right, right, right. Although I understand LeBron's decision, that's not how, that's not what, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't think I would have done that. Right, right. I get what you're saying. But everybody's different, Ocho. Like you said, everybody's different. You say, hey, I'm gone i'm gone oh yeah i'm gone i'm gone i'm definitely gone but boy man i'm i'm out of there bro let's just say for the sake of our i have like if my sister had to call me and told me my grandmother passed and it was a saturday night i would have played that sunday because i already know what she's gonna want she was like i'm already there boy what you grandmother had passed and it was a Saturday night, I would have played that Sunday.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Cause I already know what she going to want. She was like, I'm already there, boy, what you going to do? She was like, boy, what you going to do? Right.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Right. Go take care of what you need to take care of. Your granny going to be right here. But see, that's our mentality. My grandfather died. I missed the day of the funeral. She's like, what you sitting home for? Doing what? So, My grandfather died. I missed the day of the funeral.
Starting point is 00:35:46 She's like, what you sitting home for? Doing what? So that's how I've been my mentality. But LeBron James, am I surprised he's doing it? Absolutely not. I am not surprised when I owe him. But I'll probably feel some kind of way. Bro, you our best player.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. We need you. We need you. Especially a regular season game. Bro, you our best player. Yeah. We need you. We need you. Especially a regular season game. You know, we got AD. I mean, you can stand and based on what LeBron has accomplished and who he is as a father and understanding, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:16 the makeup and how he moves in general as a father. Man, shit, I ain't saying nothing. I tell you, Bron, go ahead. If I play for the Lakers, man, go ahead, bro. I got you tonight. I got you. Hey, hey, hey, hey. What time the game
Starting point is 00:36:27 start? Because I have my Lakers uniform on. Go there, catch Bron. Go there, catch Bron and get a couple points. Then I head right on back to the Lakers game. That would be dope. But I think, you know what? As I look back and think about what he went through, yeah, Bron, hell,
Starting point is 00:36:43 I take the whole week off now. I wasn't even thinking about what he went through. Yeah, bro. Hell, I take the whole week off now. I wasn't even thinking about what Bronny went through. Hell, this moment like not even happened this year. So hell, bro. What the hell you talking about? I would have told him nothing. Right. They'd be like, hey, where LeBron James at?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Right there. Well, USC, right? That's my boy. Considering, Ocho, considering the scare that they got, given what Bronny had gone through, yeah, yeah. Now, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah, missed that mug. See? I ain't going. See? I ain't going. I ain't going. I ain't going. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yeah, I forget. I forgot all about what Bronny had Brody had gone through. Check this out, Ocho. I got Keith Lee. A Texas bakery, the puttery, went from just five customers per day
Starting point is 00:37:33 to having lines around the block after Keith Lee gave the store owner a nail proud of stellar reviews for her dessert. I guess she had told him some days she would have only two customers. Damn. He came, gave it, going reviews, lying around the block. I like it. I like it. I got one problem, though. What is it?
Starting point is 00:37:56 I told Keith Lee, and I know he saw my video, when you start going back, doing reviews, let me know so I can do the goddamn review with you. And he's still doing reviews and I'm still at home. No. He don't want to do no review with you. Why? He said, cause. Cause what? Question that man. Question that man. I ain't question
Starting point is 00:38:19 that man. I just said, you know, the bad critiques. I just, you know, you know how I feel about that, man. I'm giving everybody, know, the bad critiques. I just, you know, you know how I feel about that, man. I'm giving everybody, I'm giving everybody the glory. No, but you can't do that because if you give everybody a good review and the food ain't no good, now, Ocho, now you damaging your credibility. Well, listen, everybody's experience is different. That's like dating
Starting point is 00:38:35 one woman and you tell your friend, but you don't want to date her, and then he had a time of her life with her. Yeah, well, hold on, hold on. Did I date her first? You talking about you ahead of time. You dirty, man. I can't do that, Ocho. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You better head of time. That might have been a bad analogy, but I'm just saying. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, I get what you're saying. You get what I'm saying? Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I was just saying, when I think about the service industry, I want people to stay with me, the people that are watching. When I think about the service industry in general, especially us, when it comes to us and doing anything and how difficult it is for us to have anything, to have it up and running and to get us to support each other,
Starting point is 00:39:12 because you know how we are. When it comes to us, everything has to be immaculate. It has to be perfect and top-notch. And sometimes it's not always like that. It's not always like that, which is why I would always want those reviews to always be given in a positive manner because we're very fickle. We're very fickle as a society and as a community. That's all I was saying, but what Keith Lee is doing is fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I promise you, if Keith Lee doesn't take me on his next trip or visit whatever state he's going to, we're going to fight. I guess I ain't got to worry about nobody coming to my house to eat because they saw my dog sitting on my lap. People was
Starting point is 00:39:51 mad about that. I saw that. You said it the last show. You said nothing comes before your dogs, including the woman coming into your life. She have to accept that. Yes. And people say your grandma bro do you know like my grandma know i had the dogs and they'd be at the table right yes my
Starting point is 00:40:13 grandmother knew that yes when i grew up ocho we did not have dogs in the house we had dogs but they were changed they were tied up under the shed my grandfather had dogs my uncle had hunting dogs. He had bloodhounds, blue ticks, red bones. You know the term red bone? You know where that came from? That's a dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:31 That's a hunting dog. Red bone? A red bone is an actual hunting dog. That's where the term that they refer to women as, that's where the term came from. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yes. Blue ticks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Tree. Yeah, black and, okay. Yes. Blue ticks. Yes. Trio. Yeah, black and tan trio. Yes. My uncles and grandfather had all those dogs, but they were in pens or they were chained up. Because hunting dogs,
Starting point is 00:40:55 you had to have them in a pen because they get on the trail or something and they gone. They gone. Right, right. So they get the tracking. Right. It's a wrap gone right so yes
Starting point is 00:41:07 my grandmother had no problem once i got dog as a matter of fact i had two rottweilers kane and killian i had them in uh and in denver with me and then i went going to the place and wouldn't let me have dogs over certain size I sent the dogs to my sister and my grandmother. I wanted, when I came home, I wanted to bring the dogs with me to Atlanta. My grandma said, no, you can't take these dogs. I said, granted, but they're my dogs. I'll pay for them. She said, so?
Starting point is 00:41:36 You should have let me and your sister have them. Right, right, right, right. No Indian giving. No Indian giving. So she was cool with the dog. I ain't had the dog on the table. They make it seem like the dog, everybody else had served their food.
Starting point is 00:41:49 The dog was sitting in my lap in front of my food. Right, right, right, right, right. And y'all, all y'all talking, y'all women, what you think that hair, that's not your hair. Where you think that hair be at on the table? Oh, okay, okay. Why y'all over there bumping y'all gums, shedding over everything. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Now I done got y'all gums, shedding over everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. Okay. Now I got that off my chest. I'm good now. I like, hey, bro. I like what you're doing there, bro. You talking spicy. Y'all are not going to come between me and my dog.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Me and my dog and my family. Because everybody knows how I get down. Hey, I like it. Boy, you stand on business by them goddamn dogs, man. Okay, I see you. I see you. Okay. Now, if my grandmother would have had a problem with it, I'm never
Starting point is 00:42:35 going to be disrespectful to my grandmother. If she says, Shannon, I don't want the dogs in the house, the dog's not coming in the house. Yeah. But at my house, it's just like, Ocho, my mom used to smoke i said mom you can't smoke in the house you can go back porch and smoke okay that's my mom right but she goes she respects my house okay yeah that's my grandmother's house yes me and my brother bought that but i got too much respect for her they're like hold on i'm paying for no i'm gonna i wouldn't even come into my
Starting point is 00:43:04 grandmother's house after midnight. Right. I would not even sleep, I would not even bring a girl and sleep in my grandmother's house. When I come home, I stayed at the hotel. Right. I didn't sleep in my grandmother's house with a woman. Right. Because I got too much respect for her, even though she said, baby, hey. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You pay for the house. Right. No, I got too much respect for you. Right. To lay up with a woman in your home. That's not going to happen. We're going to go to the house. No, no, Grant, I got too much respect for you to lay up with a woman in your home. That's not going to happen. We're going to go to the hotel. It's okay. Yeah, it ain't no risk. Carlton, it's not the fourth season, but guess what?
Starting point is 00:43:36 It's a respect factor that I had for my grandmother that I'm not coming in the house after midnight. Never ever have I ever set one foot in my grandmother's house after midnight. Never, ever have I ever set one foot in my grandmother's house after midnight. From the time I was able enough to go out from 13 or 14 to I'm 25, 35,
Starting point is 00:43:52 40. Never. And that wasn't going to happen then. I've never had a woman in my granny's house. Ever? No! Not to have no have sex? No! No, I ain't say to have sex. I ain't no I ain't say to have sex
Starting point is 00:44:05 I mean just in general to meet my grandma yeah yeah no Ocho no no no Ocho you know how it is I don't look at
Starting point is 00:44:13 I can't speak for everybody else but I know where I'm from that's the utmost respect I could not in good conscience lay up my grandmother
Starting point is 00:44:21 down the hall and I got a woman laying up in my room right you know I mean you know where I'm from obviously lay up my grandmother down the hall and I got a woman laying up in my room. Right. You know, you know where I'm from, obviously. You know, I'm from the city. I'm from Liberty City.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And you know, people that know me or know my grandma very well, you know, she didn't play that. She didn't play that. She was a school counselor. She was a teacher. She worked for the Dade County
Starting point is 00:44:42 public school system. So you already know she in church every Sunday on Wednesday in Bible study. I don't need to tell you no more. So you already know what time it is. Bring who? Bring who in her house?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Man, shit. Jamita? Ain't nobody sleeping there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And listen, I ain't here for to sit here and stunt, but I had to be in the house before the goddamn streetlight came on. When that streetlight started flickering and she come on that porch and call my name, I better be, I better be in distance where I can hear. Yeah. We had that, uh, that light to come on once it got dark,
Starting point is 00:45:23 but we'd be shooting basketball. But no, there's... Look, my grandpa... My uncle's... Guys that were dated, my aunts, when they came over to date my aunts, you know what my grandfather told them? He said, nobody have sex here but me and the girl's mom. Don't play that with me.
Starting point is 00:45:41 All that sneaking... Barney Porter didn't play that. Straight up, huh? I tell you what, go to Glenville right now. Anybody my age from 50 to 75. Yeah. Ask them about Barney Porter. He ain't play.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Ain't play. That's what, matter of fact, ain't no play. He said, grown men don't play. He said, I remember, Ocho, he said, you know what? The way you play, everybody don't play how you play. Right. So be careful playing with people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah. All that playing. You see all these people on social media pranking people. Okay, that's how you play. That's how you play. Everybody don't play like you play. That's a dangerous game. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:21 That's a dangerous game. Yes. Man, Ocho, I got slapped so hard one time. You know when I was going, you know people used to say, your mama? Yeah. Man, I was working in the field, Ocho, and I'd never forget Henretta. And somebody going to cut this clip up and send it to her in Glenville. Man, I told Henretta, she said something.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I said, your mama? Bah! Her sister. Yeah. Bell. Her name Maybell. We call her we call her bell yeah man bell slapped her taste out my mouth i said what you slapped before i said her mama she said we got the same damn mom mama i ain't do that no more yeah i ain't do that no more hocho yeah so you playing
Starting point is 00:47:01 how you play playing yeah everybody don't play how you play now. They don't play the same. Exactly. T.I. pulled up on a club in Atlanta for using the pictures of his son to promote a party they weren't played for. They weren't paid for. He's like, don't play with me in this city.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You know better than that. You know better than that. You know better than to make a mockery of a family situation like that with a staple of Atlanta. He brought the A! Why even play? That's like,
Starting point is 00:47:34 come on, what we doing? What we doing? Listen, I like that T.I. stood on business. I like that he stood on business. Am I using that terminology right? I'm old now. I'm just trying to make some use of it. Yeah, I'm saying it right? Yeah, stand on business. I like that he stood. Yeah, for sure. Am I using that terminology right? I'm old now. I'm just trying to make sure. Stand on business.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah, I'm saying it right? Yeah, stand on business. I'm glad he stood on business and in front of those people. They know they was dead wrong. They was dead wrong for that, man. You trying to promote something. Okay, you want to promote the man.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Pay the man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And matter of fact, I don't even think they would be able to afford his fee. Let's start there. Well, don't put the man and his son on the fly then Trying to be funny, trying to attract attention Knowing that if you put that on the fly, what everybody gonna do?
Starting point is 00:48:15 They gonna tell, hey, Tip Hey, man, you at such and such, you hooching such and such Yeah What you talking about? Back to it, yeah, and get people to come Right I can see if you in Miami or you somewhere else. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Tip. Man, nah, hell nah. He got to pick up a phone. Right. You can't play with that man in there, eh? Nah. Because he going to pull up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And he did. And rightfully so. He did just that too. He's supposed to. You think they changed it? I don't know what happened. You think they changed it down? But knowing T.I.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Look, they don't play with T.I. Now, T.I. Look, they don't play with T.I. Now, T.I. ain't about that business no more. But T.I. usually about that business. Right, right, right,
Starting point is 00:48:52 right. Real business. Yeah. Oh yeah, I know. They know T.I. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Do you think some elite athletes in college all of a sudden go to the NFL and forgot how to play football, especially QBs? No. Did he say elite? some elite athletes in college all of a sudden go to the NFL and forgotten how to play football, especially QBs. No. Did he say elite? Yeah. See, Ocho, and this is what I've
Starting point is 00:49:13 always tried to explain to people. Just because you're good in high school doesn't mean you're going to be good in college. Just because you're good in college doesn't mean you're going to be good in the NFL. Everything is not transferable. Everybody thinks that all of a sudden, well, he was a good
Starting point is 00:49:30 running back in college. Well, he was a good wide receiver or quarterback. No. Yeah. It don't work like that. No. And there were some guys that were okay. And then you're like, how did he? Everybody is not going to have a stellar career like Peyton Manning
Starting point is 00:49:49 come out top notch with number one recruited player. When he came into college, he was the number one overall draft pick. And now he leads with five MVPs, a Superbowl MVP and two Superbowl titles. And he had all the records passing yards, passing touchdowns when he left the game. Everybody's not going to have it like that and so we just we just we we get so man oh you see a mojo that boy
Starting point is 00:50:14 gonna be bad in the nfl why you say that because he bad in college no it's just different it's different i don't think i don't think people understand the significance and the jump in talent. Yes. Once you get to the NFL, you are literally the best of the best in the world and considered the 1%. Yeah. The 1% at your job out of billions of people in the world. Like, think about that. You know, I never thought about it that way.
Starting point is 00:50:46 You're the best of the best. When we talk about some of these players that are the best at what they do, the Tyreek Hills, your C.D. Lambs, your Dak Prescott, your Patrick Mahomes, out of billions in the world, you are the one. The best.
Starting point is 00:51:02 It's such a huge jump. The transition doesn't always translate when you leave college to the nfl because it doesn't the level of talent is damn they're equal yes it's damn they're equal the only thing that separates you probably where you get an edge is mentally and being technically sound. Yeah. That's it. You got to believe. Yeah. I believe that when I stepped on the field, I was the baddest mofo out there.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I believe that was. I believe that everything that I endured up until that point had prepared me for that moment. So there was nothing I was going to encounter on the field that I hadn't already faced a more difficult time coming up. Right. So now I had to put the work in. I had studied.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I had done everything. That's what, see, Ocho, and I'm like, hold on. I'll give you a play last night. Seattle got stopped on fourth down. Okay, what does game tape tell you? In 31 or 431, D-Law, Demarcus Lawrence, liked to pinch inside. He likes to cross the guy's face. Okay, the guy at the safety walked down
Starting point is 00:52:08 on the line of scrimmage. What the hell you think the D-line going? Inside. Force everything to bounce to the safety. And then the tight end let the safety beat him. I'm like, bro, what do y'all watch? Do y'all watch tape?
Starting point is 00:52:24 D-Law. And I haven't even broken D-Law down. I'm just watching Game Company, just watching it week in and week out because the Cowboys, I know we're going to talk about the Cowboys. Just watching it. Third and one, fourth and one, D-Law crossing somebody's face. Because I want a portion of the bounce. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'd be there.
Starting point is 00:52:47 To say, bro. I'm like, bro, come on now. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't get it. Ken Fulton asked, there are only three numbers retired in Denver. Do you think Denver will ever retire 84 or 30?
Starting point is 00:53:01 UNTD deserve it. I doubt it. I don't. You know, at one point in time, I was like, man, it'd be cool to have a number retire. But then, hell, after everybody done wore it, after I done had it all night, it is, I don't think about it anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I got one retired. I got number two retired in Savannah State. I'm good. I'm good. There we go. Sure, I want one you want them 85. You want, you want 85 retired enough. I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:56:52 Isaac Curtis is the original 85. They changed multiple rules because of Isaac Curtis being the offensive weapon that he was back then. So I've always showed tremendous respect to him and what he did with the Bengals but no most of the time when people see that that number 85 it is synonymous with Ocho you know when you see the number 85 in general it doesn't even have to be bangle related it's still synonymous with Ocho Senyo yeah you know so yeah I mean with all the, it's still synonymous with Ocho Cinco.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah. Yeah. You know? So, I mean, with all due respect, it's cool, right? That's cool. I mean, but you know what, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I mean, think about it. From Liberty City and you got your name and I'm up in the ring of fame. So everybody come up in that thing, they're like, man, what they got? They got Chad Johnson
Starting point is 00:57:40 or they got Ocho Cinco Johnson? They got Johnson. I think they should put a hyphen and put Ocho Cinco next to it. Yeah. Hey, that's a crazy feeling, man. It is, man.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, and it didn't hit me until after the fact. You know, during the ceremony, it was cool. My family was there. T.O. was there. You know, my kids, French Friday, all there. And I looked up. They let the little drape down. And I looked at my name
Starting point is 00:58:05 and it was like you know what boom that's cool boom I shook hands shook boomer hands I hugged big Willie and hugged Anthony Munoz, Ken Anderson and then that's it and then I got home in the bed I got home to the hotel
Starting point is 00:58:22 in the bed with Rel and boom it hit me. That's crazy. I'm from Liberty City, man. Born in Jackson Memorial Hospital. Grew up in the 40s during the craziest era of all time.
Starting point is 00:58:38 My name is in the stadium when the odds were stacked against me. I happened to make it out. Like that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. When you think about it, the comfort where I come from and now to walk into a stadium and your name and your legacy is cemented. Like they can't take that away. That ain't going nowhere. No, like that's definitely not. That's dope, man.
Starting point is 00:59:02 That's dope. Christopher Howard asked with Brandon Staley and Sean McDermott on notice which team has the better
Starting point is 00:59:11 coaching opportunities and upside Bills or Chargers oh that's a good one both of them shit from what they got from an offensive standpoint
Starting point is 00:59:18 I like both of them I like both of them and that goddamn roster over there that the the defensive roster over there in San Diego, I'd rather go there.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Oh, my goodness, yes. Yeah, I'm going to L.A. for the weapon. I'm going to L.A. for the weapon. I mean, because both of the quarterbacks, I mean, you got two big strong-armed quarterbacks that apparently do – I mean, they don't miss games. You got Jen. You got Diggs. Stefan Diggs.
Starting point is 00:59:51 You got Gabe Davis. You got two Kincaids. I mean, you got two tight ends. Nice offensive line. You go to the Chargers. You got Eckler. You got Keenan Allen. You got Mike Williams, although he's injured.
Starting point is 01:00:06 You got Everett. Yeah, I mean, both. I think most of them. Quinn Nelson. Is it Quinn Nelson or Quinn Johnson? Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Quinn Nelson is the guard for the Colts. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Look, the taxes in California gonna eat you up. Ooh, yes, they is. The weather is really nice. But, I mean, think about it. I'm getting nine games a year
Starting point is 01:00:33 because I play indoors and the Raiders are indoors. Right. So I'm getting nine games a year in ideal climate. In a beautiful stadium at that. But here's the thing. Here's the one drawback.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Patrick Holmes gonna be in this division for another 10 years. If you go to the AFC East, you got Zach Wilson, you got Mack Jones, and you got Tua. Do you want to deal with one of those guys, or do you want 10 years of Pat Mahomes? Patrick Mahomes. You have to weigh your options. I ain't running for that smoke. I want 10 years of Pat Mahomes? Pat your bahomes. You have to weigh your options. I ain't running for that smoke.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to battle Pat Mahomes. You want to battle my whole boy? Yeah, I want to battle, I want to battle, I want to battle Pat. I like that.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I want to compete. And I got a new watch, I got a new watch today too. I forgot to show you. What you got? Let me see what you got. What is that? From Target. Oh, no. I never you got. What is that? From Target.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Oh, no. Now, it was $10. I posted it on my story earlier today. It looked like a Cartier, though, don't it? Looked like a Carter. It looked like a Carter. They left the aisle. They just said a Carter. They didn't say Cartier.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That's a Carter. And they ain't talking about Sean Carter either. No, don't play now. You know this thing looks spiffy. It look real classy, man. It look real classy. See, if I ain't say nothing, somebody asked me today, they was like, hey, boy, what you got on your wrist, boy?
Starting point is 01:01:57 I said, I was like, man, this shit Cartier. He ain't know no better. He ain't know no difference. You know, to the naked eye, they'll never know. But it cost me $10. It look good, though. Well, you see, good thing I ain't got no naked eyes He ain't no no difference. You know, to the naked eyes, they'll never know. But it cost me $10. It looked good, though. Well, you see, good thing I ain't got no naked eyes.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I dress my eyes up. I know that was some bull jive. Sean Pearson. Sean Pearson said, Okanocho, where do you rank Larry Fitzgerald standing among receivers all the time?
Starting point is 01:02:19 I don't think he gets mentioned enough. I like Fitz. I like enough. I like Fitz. I like Fitz. Fitz is one of those, you know what, I'm going to put my hard hat on and I'm going to go to work. It ain't for me to be pretty. If you throw it, I'm going to catch it.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'm going to get the job done. Every time that blue collar, do it the right way, perfect example of model citizen, model football player. If there was somebody you want to be like, it's somebody, your mama say, if you want to bring an athlete home,
Starting point is 01:02:53 this is the one you want to bring home. You know, everything about him, he the real deal. Top five. I think even statistically. I love Fitzy, man.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah. Yeah. I definitely think where he ranks for me, I think Jerry's the greatest. Right. And some people argue and say, well, it's Randy. But I'm going to go Jerry. I mean, the man got 197 receiving touchdowns, Ocho. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 The man got 44. He got 44 more receiving touchdowns than anybody in the history of the game. The man got 22,000 receiving yards. Yeah. Yeah. The man got 44. He got 44 more receiving touchdowns than anybody in the history of the game. The man got 22,000 receiving yards. Yeah. Yeah. In an era when they didn't throw the ball like they throw it 60, 70% of the time now.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And he was doing things. I mean, the dude had 22 touchdowns in 12 games. So for me, Jerry is it. I like T.O. at two. I got Randy at three. Right. That's me.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Because I just love T.O. I love T.O. on the field and his ability because I know I was going to get everything he got every single play, every single game. Yeah. You know, any time I always talk about, you know, for me, it's like what Jerry was able to do, man. It's just.
Starting point is 01:04:17 People take for granted, man. Like I say, Ocho, see, people think now, I think the thing is people think now that football and basketball and baseball didn't start until the internet came to be. And they just like, oh, man, he wasn't. Bro, y'all better go back and look at what Jerry did. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I mean, the man went to, I think it was a 10-time first-team All-Pro. Mm-hmm. For a wide receiver. And they're only two slots. Yeah. See, back when we were coming, they didn't have no flex. It wasn't no flex nothing. It was two wide receivers and one tight end and two running backs.
Starting point is 01:04:59 You got to go. You got to work. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, I never had the opportunity to see Jerry play in person. Obviously, I've seen the footage. I've seen the film. I've watched the one-on-ones.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But being able to see Moss and T.O. in person for years. Yeah. And I try to tell people. I try to explain it to them. Listen, watching what Randy did on Thanksgiving with that 3-for-1, 63, and three touchdowns, or what T.O. did in Philly or what T.O. did when he was the 49ers, unless you were able to see it in person, watching it on film, watching it on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:05:36 it will do you no justice unless you saw it with the naked eye. Un-fucking-believable. The receivers of the day are phenomenal. The receivers of the day are phenomenal The receivers of the day Are great Yes But they are nothing And I mean that In an ultra-respectful way Nothing like watching them two
Starting point is 01:05:54 The guys are skilled now But the physicality Has been legislated Out of the ball game Yeah So you can't See A lot of back then It was all about intimidation Yeah legislated out of the ball game. Yeah. So you can't, you can't. See,
Starting point is 01:06:05 a lot of, a lot of back then, it was all about intimidation. Yeah. It was all about intimidation. And all that talking and all that celebration, celebrating. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Yeah. You want to celebrate? Yeah. Oh, okay. Oh, they gonna get, they gonna get you.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Bruh. They gonna get you. They would take cheap, they would take cheap shots at you. They would light your ass up. Yeah. Yeah. Keep talking. Keep talking. Y'all gonna keep talking. Me? I ain't looking. Y'all was gonna hit me anyway. Y'all trying to make it seem like the only reason y'all hit
Starting point is 01:06:37 me is because I'm talking. No, y'all was gonna get me anyway because I'm on the other team. So I'm gonna keep talking. But guess what? I'm gonna get your ass back too. I'm gonna get you back. Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm thinking the other team. So I'm going to keep talking. Exactly. But guess what? I'm going to get your ass back too. I'm going to get you back. Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm thinking about? What?
Starting point is 01:06:51 Calvin motherfucking Johnson. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Man, unfair. It's like God, God, God. It's like God was messing around up there with the football gods and said, boom, here you go. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:07 When I think of Calvin Johnson and his makeup, it's like, and what God did when he created Messi, obviously completely different statures, you know, and completely different sports. He would just fuck around and say, you know what? Here y'all go. And man, un-fucking-believable talents to watch in person man they are and i got it like i said i mean to see the like the greats and you know to see reggie and bruce and the dts and the lts and the times and those guys in their prime now you get you get an appreciation yeah to watch guys just like move up and down the line.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I mean, they put Reggie at the three technique, the five technique, the seven, the nine. Yeah. It didn't matter. And dominated all of them. Dominated. Yeah. Dominated.
Starting point is 01:07:57 To see Bruce, he played a five and just like, I mean, they changed, well, unabated to the quarterback because Bruce knocked Boomer Sison out of the game. He jumped the snap count, and they didn't blow it dead. He knocked him out. Oh, yeah. Oh, they would literally knock you out of the game.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Ocho, they would knock you out, Ocho. They would knock you out of the game. No, seriously, Ocho. They would knock you out. Your quarterback? Yeah. They would knock your quarterback out of the game. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:24 That's crazy. It is what it is, Ocho. And the fun thing the game. That's crazy. That's crazy. It is what it is, though, Cho. And the funny thing about it. John King. Go ahead. Before you ask the question, Tyreek Hill is in that same conversation, especially with the boys, too, and he's still playing. Like, he like that.
Starting point is 01:08:38 That's how special he is. Oh, yeah. And with his speed, I mean, Tyreek is how old? Tyreek is what, 29 maybe? He's not that old. Not yet, I don't think. Maybe 27. 28, 29?
Starting point is 01:08:53 Because I think Pat Mahomes, I think Mahomes, 29. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. But that's still not 30. But see, the thing is, because of that speed, he's still going to be able to play, put up numbers for another three to five years.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I'm talking about the numbers that he's putting up now. Now, I'm not saying he's going to get – I believe he's going to get 2,000 this year. Yeah. At least I'm hoping. Because I want to see it. I mean, you know, I like seeing it. You know, I played – you know, a block for a guy that got 2,000 rush yards.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It's something to see. You see a guy get 2,000, you know, 2,000 rush yards. It's something to see. You see a guy get 2,000 rush yards. To see something that hasn't been done. And to see Tyreek be the first to do it. Because it takes a special guy. Because you got to be there every week. You can't miss a game, Mocho. You can't miss a game.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And he going to get one or two big ones, too. He going to get out of these, what, six or seven left? He going to get one or two big ones. And it's going to get out of these, what, six or seven left? He going to get one or two big ones, and it going to put him right over the mark. I think he got six games left. He needs a game where he goes over two. Yeah. That will put him over 1,500. So now I got five games, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:09:58 And now, you know, you get a 125 or 150, you sit pretty. It's a wrap. Because you know the the thing is, is that you don't want, you want to have it. You want to be able to catch a smoke route and walk off the field
Starting point is 01:10:10 like I got it. Like, yeah. Because they're going to throw, they don't want you to break that record against them, Ocho. Yeah. So they're going to put in,
Starting point is 01:10:16 Jalen, Jalen Waddle might break the record. He might have the most receiving yards in the game. Right. Because they're going to be, they're going to blow the coverage to make sure that Tyreek
Starting point is 01:10:23 don't get it. Get it, yeah. Because he, you know what I'm saying? Because remember, when T.O. had got the record, Tom Fierce had the record of 19 catches, I think 18 catches in the game. Right. Well, it was Jerry Rice's day. They're like, we're not going to let Jerry go crazy on us
Starting point is 01:10:40 and I'll be damn, T.O. don't go for 20 for 255. So that's what happens, Ocho. They're like, oh, no, you're not finna go crazy. You're not finna celebrate on us. Jayla Water gets 10 catches for 300 yards. Yeah, I hate them.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I hate them games like that. Come hella high water and they just say, not the day. You not go get it. And you gotta be patient. You gotta be patient. You'll get maybe one or two.
Starting point is 01:11:08 You'll get maybe one or two balls and hope you can do something with it but you ain't getting nothing after that no shannon uh john king asked shannon if you and sterling switch team would you still be the same player you both were uh who do you think would have had the better career i mean hold on so you mean to tell me he's gonna come into the league and he's gonna have have John Elway from the jump? Do you realize who threw the ball to my brother before Brent Favre got there? I mean, no. I mean, Anthony Dillwig, Mike Tomczak, he had Don Makowski. Come on, now.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Don Makowski? Boy, he was a real deal. Bro, you're going to get my brother John Elway. So in 88, 89, 90, 91, he has John Elway. Do you know what his numbers would look like? I mean, yeah, I mean, I'd have had Brett. I mean, I'd have had Favre got to Green Bay in 92. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I mean, probably my career is similar, but his numbers would have been astronomical. So, yo, he'd have a much better career than what he had, and he had a great career even though it was short. Adrian Adderley asked, what's more difficult, hitting a free throw in an NBA championship or kicking a field goal for the Super Bowl? P.S. for Ocho.
Starting point is 01:12:21 The Saxons are the best junkanoo group in the Bahamas. Valley boys. Don't do that. Nah, he said Saxons. Valley boys. He said Saxons. I mean, he sounds like he from the Bahamas. It probably is somebody in the Bahamas talking about the Saxons. Valley in your belly.
Starting point is 01:12:41 What's more difficult, Ocho? Hitting a free throw in an NBA championship game or kicking a field goal for the Super Bowl I think both both are equally as equally as stressful
Starting point is 01:12:53 no they're not shit because guess what ain't nobody trying to block your free throw you ain't got no win conditions but listen it's still
Starting point is 01:13:03 you you you having to hit that free throw you having to make that kick in front of 80 000 people you got your teammates all 50 all 52 of them relying relying on you to make a kick to win a game you are responsible for that right free throw arena cheering loud fans, people heckling, making noise. You got to lock in and hit a free throw.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Championship, you got to make both of them to win a game. Game seven series, you make both of them, you win by one. Shit. Man, that's equally yoked, man. It all depends on who's shooting the free throws you got Ben Wallace you got Chris Dudley I mean you got Shaq who's shooting the free throws to win the championship
Starting point is 01:13:54 and then who's kicking the field goal for the Super Bowl do I got a Tuck from Baltimore do I got Benatieri that's a great question for Steph Curry and Justin Tucker. What do you think is much more difficult?
Starting point is 01:14:11 To make two shots to win a series in game seven or to kick a game in the Super Bowl? How far does the field go? Oh, you got to take that into consideration as well. That's a good one. I mean, the guy that just kicked a 59-yard in a driving rainstorm. Yeah, that was clutch.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Give me the free throw, Ocho. That was clutch. That was clutch. Or Vinny Thierry kicking the ball, kicking a 45-yard field goal in a driving snowstorm. Yeah, that was a good one too. Come on, now. You right.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I mean, but I think the thing is Ocho is that the question is pressure is what you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing because if you haven't been in those situations before
Starting point is 01:14:59 I mean how many times has Steph Curry gone to the free throw line with a game on the line Justin Tucker was a rookie I mean, how many times has Steph Curry gone to the free throw line? With a game on the line? Justin Tucker was a rookie and kicked the game-winning field goal in Denver to send the Ravens to the AFC Championship game in New England. So he's been in those moments. Steph Curry has had to make a free throw possibly to get a team into overtime or to win
Starting point is 01:15:26 a game. Now, you take someone that's never been in those situations. Now, the knee is knocking like you think somebody's knocking on the door. Yeah, it's different. It's different. But, you know, that's a great question. Now that you're asking,
Starting point is 01:15:43 the players that have been in those situations or clutch situations or moments like that where the Super Bowl is on the line or a championship is on the line, do you think they're nervous? Yeah. You think so? Oh, you understand the moment. You understand the moment. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:58 You understand the moment. Yeah, you know, because, I mean, that's the Super Bowl. And as much as you try to make the Super Bowl just another game, everything's going to be the same, 15-minute quarters. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Jonathan Batista. Ocho, have you ever heard you and A$AP Rocky look related? Y'all could be cousins. Man, that is my cousin, man. I've said that millions of times. Rocky has also said that on Instagram many a times. I'm not sure why people are still confused
Starting point is 01:16:29 that we resemble each other. He's lying. No, I'm not lying. You're a liar. I think Ojo computer went out for a second. I hope he didn't lose his charge. I think I'm still going, so I guess I keep asking some questions.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Ish Moose 1 said, oh, did you see Ocho Vegas commercial? And can we rate his rap skill? Love y'all. That's what y'all call those skills? Y'all call that what he do at rapping? Look, I haven't seen the whole commercial um i saw a little snippet of it but he got in character so the one thing i know about ocho he gonna fool y'all he gonna i mean
Starting point is 01:17:17 he gonna make y'all thank you tupac i mean he gonna be up there like oh yeah bro i hit that with uh look when it comes to entertaining i don't put nothing past sojo because he's the he's the ultimate entertainer he he embodies he captures he embodies the the moment and so would i be surprised that he hit it out of the park? No. I would be more surprised than if he did because knowing that he loved the entertainment. He loved that. He's a showman. He loves being in front of people.
Starting point is 01:17:53 He loves being in front of the camera. So, yeah, I ain't got no doubt in my mind that Ocho knocked it out of the park. I saw a little snippet of it, but I'm going to wait till the end. I think it's going to be a Super Bowl commercial, right? It's a Super Bowl commercial, right?
Starting point is 01:18:08 So I'm waiting to see that during the Super Bowl. Hey, let's be real. With no hate for the Cowboys, if Romo had a defense, the Cowboys had the last two years he's winning a Super Bowl. Be real, Uncle Ocho. Dad's caught it. We all know it. No, first of all, the mere fact that you signed Jonathan.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Excuse me, not Jonathan. Nathan High Voltage 52. The mere fact that you signed off said, objective cowboy fan. Let's me know you full of caca. Dad didn't catch it. In order for you to catch the football, at the time, a catch was, if a receiver goes to the ground,
Starting point is 01:18:49 he must maintain possession throughout the entirety of the process. So coming in contact with the ground, basically you need to stand up and hand the ball to the official. Right. Make the rules, bro. Calvin Johnson. They said that president a year earlier, or maybe, you know, two years earlier with bro Calvin Johnson they set that precedent a year earlier or maybe you know two years earlier with the Calvin Johnson situation when he got when he caught the ball and tried to get up
Starting point is 01:19:12 with the ball with one hand and he said nope not a catch so no they didn't catch it and Romo was too mistake prone in order for you guys to win a Super Bowl you can't for you guys to win a Super Bowl. You can't be mistake prone and win the Super Bowl because you're going to end up putting a defense at a disadvantage.
Starting point is 01:19:31 So I disagree that had Romo had a real defense, he had a defense. Y'all had 10 Pro Bowl players one year. Damn, how many Pro Bowl players? There's only 22 spots. Y'all had 10 of them. No. Tony Favre says, oh, you're talking about both sides of your mouth.
Starting point is 01:19:54 The back deck and the offense, they put up 41 points. Bro, how many teams scored 56? It's not the point. Troy, it's not the point. How many games have you lost this year because of the red zone inaccuracy? So what about Philly? Would you have won the game in Philly if they went three for three?
Starting point is 01:20:16 What did you go? See, I mean, I can't win. I give you credit. I say this is a good team because when your defense didn't have it, you scored 41 and you're outscoring 41-35. Okay, your defense, you know what? You say you're a good defense. Can you do what you need to do when you have to?
Starting point is 01:20:35 Three stops on fourth down. Well, damn, what you want me to do? I'll be telling you what you want me to do. Troy, what you want me to do? I give him credit. You don't like the way I gave him credit. The fact of the matter is, you can critique,
Starting point is 01:20:51 you can be pleased with something, but not satisfied. That's your problem. And I told you, that's what's going to get you in trouble because you accept things in a win you never would in a loss. Had they lost the game,
Starting point is 01:21:02 would you have been okay with that? You wouldn't have. And then you're going to talk about, and penalties. Again, look at you. You okay with the penalties? Nah, but the penalties don't matter. We won the game.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Okay. I'll check back with you in a couple of weeks. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, today's my birthday. May I please get a birthday shout out or a few coins to buy me some La Portier? Dr. Frankie. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Chad just called, just come in and said his computer caught on fire. See that what you get for being cheap. See your boy, but my computer will never catch on fire. Get on your cell phone. Happy birthday, Dr. Frankie L.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Bellamy. Appreciate the support, man. Uncultured J, Uncle Ocho, that'll be the first live event that I can't broadcast from, not including Ocho's wedding, as I believe that's already been asked. We're probably going to have an event at
Starting point is 01:22:01 the Super Bowl this year. We're definitely trying to get that worked out. Um, Ocho and I'll be at the same location, have a live audience. Um, I think that would be really, really cool.
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