Nightcap - Nightcap - Cowboys Outlast Seahawks, LeBron Skipping A Game, Best Receivers Ever
Episode Date: December 1, 2023Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the exciting Cowboys win over the Seahawks (2:00), Tyreek Hill's comments about Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs (10:30), Deion Sanders winn...ing a surprising award (22:00), LeBron James skipping a Lakers game for his son's debut (24:30), a wild T.I. story (42:00), and the best receivers in NFL history (55:00). #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, let's get right into it.
The Cowboys beat the Seahawks 45-31.
Dak Prescott 29-41 of 41 299 three touchdowns
gino smith 23 of 41 334 three touchdown one interception uh third straight okay the seahawks
had three straight four downs that doomed them near midfield selling otherwise an outstanding
offensive performance michael went unblocked on fourth and two. I don't
know what offensive play you
call and say, you know what? We're going to turn
their best defensive player.
We're going to let him run unabated
to our quarterback. The funny thing about it,
they did a great job blocking him the entire
goddamn game, except the last play when
it really mattered. And you turned him scot-free.
Turned him scot-free. So what
were some of your takeaways, Ojo?
Listen, my takeaway, obviously,
I'm not sure who slated this game
before the season started,
but this was the best Thursday night game by far.
By none.
One of the best games actually all goddamn season.
The offense, this is one of the games
where you always talked about
when you don't get pick sixes
and turnovers from your defense,
will Dak be able to win and carry that offense?
That is exactly what he did tonight.
CeeDee Lamb on third down, super duper clutch.
Yeah, he had one drop on that fourth and two.
He said, my bad.
But other than that,
Dak showed why his name should be in the MVP conversation and why he is one
of the best.
You don't like me using the word elite,
but his play the past few weeks,
it's just that.
It's been elite, especially tonight.
Tonight is when you need a Dak to show,
listen, my defense is not playing that well.
Geno, when that offense is marching down the field,
DK Metcalf was going crazy, boy.
He was going crazy.
They put some seasoning on Bland tonight, Ocho.
They put seasoning on Bland. They put some seasoning on him. tonight, Ocho. They put seasoning on Bland.
They put some seasoning on him.
Listen, they put a little seasoning, but he took a bite out of you, though.
He took a bite out of him, especially Tyler Locker ran that lazy-ass out route,
and Bland, once again, picked it right off.
Ocho, tell me what's the only route you're going to run from that split.
Yeah.
And you start leaning with it from the jump.
Yeah.
Oh, he was leaning.
He was leaning heavy.
Hey, he was leaning like Fat Joe.
Yeah, but other than that.
He was, Ocho.
Yeah.
The Cowboys, what I saw tonight, Ocho, the way I measure a team,
if you're good offensively, if you're good defensively,
can you get done what you need to get done when you have to?
When Dak needed a touchdown to take the lead, what did they do?
They went and got it. Yes, sir. The defense, okay get done when you have to. When Dak needed a touchdown to take the lead, what did they do? They went and got it.
Yes, sir.
The defense, okay, you say you like that.
Can you get a stop?
Not only can we get one, we're going to stop him three times in a row
on fourth down at midfield.
Yeah.
That's the mark of a team.
And like you said, defensively, you're not going to always have it.
So, okay, offense, our defense don't got it tonight.
They're not going to get a five turnover.
They're not going to sack a five turnover. They're not going to sack
Geno six or seven times.
So, when we get our opportunities,
we're going to have to cash.
And that's what they did tonight. That's
the mark of a good football team.
A really, really good football team.
Because can I go get done
what I need to get done when I absolutely
have to have it? And the offense,
touchdown, field goal, field goal, defense, stop, stop, stop.
So I was very impressed with what I saw last night.
And considering we just saw the 49ers beat the Brakes.
Beat the Brakes off the Seahawks.
And so I was expecting the Cowboys to pretty much do the same thing
because you and I both know how hard it is for the division opponent.
No matter how sorry the division opponent is, no matter how good you are, it's just something about playing in a division opponent.
Yeah. No, you know, your tendencies know what you like to do.
And so it makes it a lot tougher. But. Give the Seahawks credit.
They came in nice to get a great job.
Probably should have won the game because on one of those drives,
the Cowboys,
they got five penalties.
They kept the drive alive with penalty after penalty.
I think they have five penalties for 23 for 22 yards,
but give the Cowboys credit.
Oh,
Joe,
they,
they,
they played well.
They did what they needed to do.
Again.
Oh,
Joe,
they were four,
eight in the red zone.
Now you play the 49ers. You're going to get beat. You go for eight in the red zone now you play the 49ers
you're gonna get beat you go four eight in the red zone right you play the eagles you're gonna
get beat you go four eight in the red zone but they play well i like what i saw uh from the
cowboys tonight give them credit now they got 10 days off to get ready i think they got the eagles
coming up in 10 days yeah yeah i'm not saying don they have the Eagles? So what do you think about Dak being an MVP conversation?
He should.
Yeah.
Okay.
23.
So I think he had 23 touchdowns and six interceptions.
So now he has 26 and six.
Yeah, he'll be in the MVP discussion.
And rightfully so.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think Lamar Jackson is going to be in the MVP discussion.
I think Jalen Hurst will be in the MVP discussion.
Tristan McCaffrey will be in the MVP discussion.
CJ Shroud.
CJ Shroud.
The way he's playing.
Got to put his name in there.
Yeah.
I think, I don't know if he's going to have enough wins, Ocho,
to really kind of garner.
Because his stats are going to say yes.
I mean, he's second in the league in passing yards.
So his stats are going to say yes.
I just don't know if he's going to have the win total
that would warrant the real attention going to him.
Now, you know, they must run and win.
Who knows?
They win the AFC South,
which is going to probably take 10, 11 wins.
Who knows?
All bets could be off.
I think Tyreek will end up being in that discussion.
But here's the thing, Ocho, you know what happened.
The wide receiver has 2,000 yards.
The quarterback got to have
at least 45 to 5,000 yards.
5,000 yards, yeah.
So they're going to be
chipping up each other.
They're chopping each other's boats up.
But yeah, Dak definitely should be
in the MVP discussion
considering the way he's played,
especially the last month and a half,
two months of the season.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Playing real good football.
And you know, on the flip side, Geno played a hell of a game.
DK Metcalf played a hell of a game.
I want to see, even though they lost, even though they lost,
and I know DK going to see this,
I need you to take over games like that week in and week out.
Week in and week out, I need you to do exactly what you did tonight.
I don't care who you planned.
You have to impose your will on everybody
you play. If it's all for
the coordinator, if you got to talk to Geno, if they got to
move you around a little bit more, you got
to show up like that every
time y'all play, man.
And you make that offense go.
That offense needs to go through you.
Ocho, you know, sometimes in games like
this, it comes down to a miss. You remember
that play that had Lockett?
And Lockett was lazy getting out the break,
and Geno hit him in the head and the ball.
Now you're going to get the ball on the 20-yard line with a first down.
That was a beautiful time and through.
That was a beautiful – man, he let the ball go before he even came out the break.
That was beautiful.
Yes, yes, yes.
And that's why you got to – what the quarterback always say,
you got to snap that head around.
Before anything else, that head got to come around.
It got to.
It got to, Ojo.
But see, my head had to come around fast because I was playing with a strong-armed quarterback.
So if you laid it with your head, he going to hit you upside the head.
And the people laughing at you, like, oh, look at you.
You think you're playing soccer, the ball all upside upside your head so he was a little lazy with it
he knew it he knew it yeah but uh that's the difference that when you're a team that win
ball games you guys make those plays when you lose in ball games you find ways to miss those plays
let's go talk about tyreek tyreek said he felt like the side chick. He went
on RG3's podcast, and I don't know if he's joking or serious. He said, Pat and Kelsey, I was kind of
jealous. I was hurt, bro. I was hurt. Patrick, you ain't never invited me over to your house like you
did Kelsey. You always invited Kelsey, and that's why we're here where we're at now. I've never been
anybody's side chick before. Never always in my whole life, high school, middle school,
all the quarterbacks, I was their main chick always.
I'd go to KC, and now I'm the side chick.
That's funny. That's funny.
Obviously, Tyreek being very, very facetious,
you take what he's saying with a grain of salt,
a little humor, a little comedy to it,
but I understand what he's saying.
His security blanket,
it is Travis Kelsey.
And it always has been,
always will be.
But Tyreek, again,
being as special as he is,
he made that offense
even more special
than what it already was.
He made it more special
and dynamic than it already was.
Obviously, you can see
it's still struggling a little bit,
you know, with the ups and downs
that they're having now.
Not having a true number one receiver that can not only take the top off of
defense, but can run those intermediate routes,
can run those shallow routes and bounce his head off the goalpost from
anywhere on the field.
That's somebody special.
That's why anytime I talk about Tyreek,
I always put him in a category completely by his God to himself because we've
never seen anything like that before.
Other than that, I mean, it's funny.
I love his sense of humor, too.
He's one of the few players that is playing today that keeps the game
entertaining, and it forces you and makes you want to tune in
to see what's next.
Did Carson ever invite you over to his house?
No, no, because they know I wouldn't go.
They know I wasn't showing up.
Listen, when we leave that stadium,
I'm doing two things. I'm going
to Cigar Bar, I'm going to
the Jazz Club, listen to some jazz sets,
or I'm on my video game. I'm not
doing nothing else.
Don't invite me to your house because I'm not showing up.
Yeah, I mean,
we used to go early in my career, we had a
teammate, an Italian teammate named Reggie Johnson.
And his girl would cook.
And she was an excellent cook.
And we'd go over there, shoot pool, play cards.
That was the thing.
You know, we'd play in tongue.
You know, we'd play in boulevard.
What you know about tongue, man?
You know about tongue.
You know about all that.
And so I went to a – but I was not a big –
I was not a guy big into going to
other people's house.
That wasn't my thing.
I see
you guys there at work.
Once I leave work,
I want
to go do my own thing. I want to be to myself.
Occasionally,
we went out. I wasn't a big go-out type
of a guy either, but I get it.
Some guys, they hung
out. They went to each other's house, but
that wasn't my thing, Ocho, either.
I wasn't big into going to teammates' house
either.
The funny thing about once you get outside,
what I did do, we didn't hang
out at each other's houses,
but the receivers, the receiver room,
we did some things together sometimes. We'd go to dinner,
we'd go to dinner and chop it up,
do some things of that nature,
but going to someone's house
and just nothing wrong with it,
it's just something I
didn't do. Well, I think
when Mike got there, what we did
do is that
he would have what we call
casino night.
So once you break and the guy that was going to make the team,
he'd have a casino night.
So they have blackjack, they have craps table, they have all that.
And so everybody, he invited everybody over to come down with his wife.
They're having, you know, they're having all this food
and everybody would show up.
And that was really fun.
So because we got an opportunity to win some really nice prizes,
pearl necklaces and trips,
vacation,
things like,
things of that nature.
So yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
the thing,
Mike was big,
Mike was big on team bonding.
So we go to train camp,
we'd have a day,
we go bowling.
We have a day.
So it'd be offense against the defense.
So you get your,
your 10 best offensive players,
the 10 best defensive players,
and we bowl against each other.
Yeah.
Okay?
Then we'd have a fishing derby.
You know, whoever catch the first fish, whoever catch the most fish,
whoever catch the biggest fish.
Oh, yeah.
Mike was big into that.
He would give us like, okay, guys, had a great week of practice.
We had a good couple days of practice.
I'm going to give you the night off.
Don't get in any trouble.
Hey, we go, you know, hey, guys go to the movies.
Guys back in Greeley, this place called the Smiling Moose.
Guys would go up there, blow off a couple of little steams,
have a couple of drinks.
But it was great.
Mike was big.
Mike was big in the team building.
Team, get the guy, know the guy other besides that he played D-line
and that his number is 95.
Know something about the guy.
Know something about him.
He got kids.
He got a mom.
Yeah, know something about him.
So that's one aspect of it that I really appreciated about Mike.
I like that casino night idea.
The only part, I wish I could have been a part of something like that.
Something to that magnitude,
because I think if,
if there was ever been a time where I would gamble,
actually spend a little money for a change,
it would have to be,
they gave you,
he gave you money.
So like he gave you like money.
Yeah.
So like he would come,
like you would come and he give you say like,
I think like $3,500.
Oh,
real,
real money.
No,
no,
no.
It was,
it was, but you know, the money was fake,
but you get an opportunity
to whoever have the most money
at the end of the night
get to buy prizes.
Ah, with the fake money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you get an opportunity
to buy the pearl necklace
or the diamond necklace
or the trip somewhere.
So that's how we did that.
It is live.
So what we do, you know, we do,
you know, your boy had to hook that thing up.
You know, your boy good with the dice.
Your boy good at blackjack.
So a couple of guys said,
hey, Sharp, this is what we gonna do.
We gonna give you our money.
Go ahead and make that thing work for you.
I'm looking to flip.
You know, I'm gonna hit a lick now.
You know, your boy.
Right, right, right.
You know, rolling them dice.
You know, nine, my point.
Born in 54, died in 63.
What's my point, Ocho?
I give it to you.
Oh, man.
Oh, we had that thing.
That thing was lit.
That's dope.
You know what, Ocho, and I tell people, that's what you miss.
Yeah.
The game is the game and the money.
I miss things like that.
The bus ride, the casino night, the fishing derbies, the bowling.
Those are the things that you, because you're never going to be able to do that again.
Nah.
You're never going to be able to do that again.
You can't simulate it either.
You can't replicate it.
No matter how much you try, you can't.
Nah.
Because you know, hey, guys are competitive.
You know, you might start off bull-jobbing,
but now you going up there to bowl, the guys in your ear,
the guy doing the worm, the moonwalking, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah.
He do it all kind of stuff to try to throw you off your game.
They yelling.
Come on, bro.
You can't be yelling in the bowling.
They yelling and screaming.
They throwing stuff up in there
throw the towel
they eat popcorn
yeah
but those are the days
check this out
Tyreek
Tyreek got two stories today
Tyreek says
he'll cover the salary
of the videographer
that was suspended
by the NFL
Kevin Fitzgibbons
a 20 year old
University of Miami student
had been working
Dolphins games
since 2022,
released a video of how the league disciplined him
after Tyreek used his phone to celebrate a touchdown backflip.
Fitz Givens said after Tyreek celebrated with his phone,
he sent the video to the NFL,
but then later was notified he would be suspended
for the remainder of the season and possibly for good
because
he had to
be disciplined.
They said,
guess what they suspended for? Because
he jumped up and down.
Listen, the NFL,
obviously, it's all about control.
Yeah, it's
always been about control. It's always been about control.
It's always been about control.
They pick and choose
when they want to enforce certain rules,
depending on who it is.
At this point, it's ridiculous, man.
This is entertainment.
Again, Tyreek being one of the most
entertaining players in the league,
in the game today,
getting someone that's a part of the NFL
involved in something that you
want, a celebration. Not only was it a celebration, it was a very creative celebration, one that had
never been done before. And you want eyes tuned into the games. And that is what he's doing.
This is a game about entertainment. So when someone chooses to do just that, entertain,
why do you fine him for it?
And now you have someone
losing their job.
And from what I understand,
I think Tyreek is going to...
Yes, he's going to cover
the guy's salary.
He's going to cover the guy's salary,
you know, for the year.
But I think the internet...
But guess what they did?
Huh?
Guess what they did?
What?
When you sent that video to them,
they released it, didn't they?
On all their platforms.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Of course they did.
You so upset at the guy.
Why you put it out?
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
Go ahead, Ocho.
Go ahead.
You know why they put it out.
Because it's entertainment.
It's going to get eyes.
It's going to get the fans engaged.
It's going to get everybody watching.
It makes no sense.
The powers that be.
The people that sit up there in positions of power
with the suit and ties,
this is what you want
for your game.
This is what you want
players doing.
Now, maybe you know
what you tell Tyreek.
Listen,
or you tell the guy,
you can't be doing that.
You can't be, you know,
having your phone
and flipping.
Boom, I understand.
You know, but you don't
suspend the guy
for exactly what you want.
Exactly what you want.
So what you expect
the guy to do?
The guy 20 years old.
The guy just, somebody just, some NFL player, not just some.
Tyreek Hill just took my phone, did a back flip, doing a selfie.
And you don't think I'm about to be excited.
I'm a Dolphins fan at the end of the day.
I don't care what anybody tells you.
Whoever works in the NFL office, they have a team.
And when their team scores, they celebrate.
When their team does something good, they celebrate.
Most definitely.
Most definitely.
And I think the excuse, they definitely suspended because they're jumping around.
It was a bull drive.
It was a bull drive.
And they would never be honest on why they did.
But the NFL, the powers that be, I'm sure you guys are going to see this.
You see everything that we do.
Let's do what's right.
If at any moment or any chance
you have, let's do it right for the young
fella, man, and get him his job back.
And give him a raise because you're embarrassed
the man. You talk about, oh,
we've got to discipline
you? Why? Tell me why you got to do it. What did he
do? He didn't disrupt the
game. He didn't run on the field. He didn't run on the field.
He didn't run on the field and hand Tyreek the camera.
Tyreek came and took the camera out of his hand.
Out of his hand, yeah.
He's like, because I couldn't believe it.
I'm telling my team, Tyreek just scored a touchdown
and did a black backflip while taking a selfie.
I'd have been jumping up and down too.
Unheard of.
That's unheard of.
Just the creativity,
the authenticity of what he was able to do
is unheard of.
It shouldn't be...
It's ridiculous at this point.
It's to say,
Ocho, I see.
I know you remember
when they used to have big heads
and jacked up.
They packaged that for years.
And then all of a sudden
when guys said for concussions
and they wanted money,
well, what?
Oh, y'all been
packaging Jack up and
great as his for 60 years.
Yeah, but you know, that all
ends when you got to come out of pocket.
It all ended.
Deion Sanders wins
SI Sportsman of the Year.
Was Deion winning the SI award the right choice?
I guess they stopped the voting in September?
Oh, that's what the people are saying.
The people are saying they stopped.
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, I was going to say.
I mean, I guess because they said, you know,
he was four and what, four and oh, three and one.
And now all of a sudden he had this losing streak.
So therefore, basically, he should be disqualified from being SI Sportsperson of the Year.
Absolutely not.
He deserves exactly what he deserves.
He deserves to be on the cover, on the SI cover.
What he was able to do at that program in such a short amount of time,
they went 1-11 last year.
They went 1-11 last year.
I understand he went 3-0 or 3-1 or 4-1 or whatever it might have been. He-11 last year. They went 1-11 last year. I understand he went 3-0
or 3-1 or 4-1
or whatever it might have been
and he lost the last eight.
But still, to be able to go
into a program like that,
bring your own luggage with you
and change it for the better
and it will only continue
to get better because,
you know, with the portal
and then when the season ends,
you know, you have transfers
and all that other stuff
that goes on.
And he told you before
the season started,
what do I need to compete?
What do I need to compete?
I need O-line and D-line.
O-line and D-line.
I need my meat and potatoes.
That is the only way I'm going to be able to compete.
So we understand the landscape of what he has and the roster that he has.
He doesn't have a roster to compete with the UCLAs or the USCs or the Oregons or the Utah, you know, teams of that magnitude.
But once he gets them in, you're going to continue to see that record improve
year in and year out.
I'm not sure why people are upset that he won that award.
Who else are you going to give it to?
Think about it.
Tell me who else you're going to give it to except another team that wins
every single year.
What college?
What college coach?
No, it don't necessarily.
I don't think SIA has to be a college coach.
Maybe people think Nikola Jokic could have won it.
Or like I said, I don't know the candidates who was up for the award.
The right person won the award.
The right person won the award,
especially was able to do it in such a short amount of time
at a horrible,
previously horrible
program.
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LeBron James says he'll miss the Lakers game to watch Bronny's college debut.
I already told my teammates that if they're playing the same day we're playing,
I'm going to catch them the next game.
Family over everything.
Yeah.
What is your take on this?
You got damn right.
Shit.
I miss a game too.
I would definitely miss a game.
He already got 88 82 up anyway.
And missing one ain't going to hurt, especially to see your son,
his first collegiate basketball game.
Absolutely.
And the funny thing about it is I'm not sure if anybody would actually have a
problem with LeBron missing a game to see his son play being who he is.
I'm sure they would.
You think they would?
I think some would because the simple
fact is that you sign up for stuff like
this. You're going to miss recitals.
You're going to miss stuff. Let me ask you a
question. If it's a playoff game, game seven,
you missing it? What are you saying, game seven?
Wait, wait, wait. Time out.
We talking about hypotheticals.
You said family over everything.
So if it's family over everything,
it's family over everything in all situations.
So again, let me ask you.
Playoff game, game seven, NBA finals.
You missing it.
That's different.
I don't think he's missing it.
Why not?
No, it ain't family over everything.
It just so happens to be family.
So he's looking at these games.
He's looking at these games.
Like I said, me, I would because I'm going all in, Ocho.
You already know. You hear me talk. You know how I am about football, I would because I'm going all in, Ocho.
You already know.
You hear me talk.
You know how I am about football.
You know how I am about any sport.
I give it my all.
Nightcap, like I said, I spent $300,000 on a season ticket and went to one game.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute.
Come on back home to me now.
Come on back home to me now.
I told you about spending money like that.
You spent $300,000 on Lakers tickets?
And how many games have I been to, Ocho?
I don't know because I don't watch
basketball. One.
My daughter, I took my daughter,
it was my daughter's birthday, I took on a Thursday.
I signed up to do nightcap. I signed up
to do nightcap with you Sunday, Monday,
Thursday. Oh,
so you missed out on the game because of our
union. Because this is what I signed up for. Boy, you know what? You are right, boy. I don't care what they say about you, boy. Oh, so you're missing out on the game because of our union. Because this is what I signed up for.
Boy, you know what?
You are right, boy.
I don't care what they say about you.
Boy, you are right with me.
Now, if you want me to fly, we can do it.
I can come to L.A.
I can do nightcap right there next to you so we can go to the Lakers game
because I ain't got no problem.
Let me know.
I don't want you to waste no $300,000.
Boy, tickets cost that much?
Man, this is the Lakers.
I don't know who paid
for the tickets at Philly
but it's a whole different
animal out here bro
it's a whole different animal
yeah I think
I think I don't
Doug
Doug works some magic
with that
Doug works some magic
300,000
yeah
like for season tickets
yeah
god damn
for two
so all them people
be at the
courtside
to lick again
they got
they got money
like that
you see who
be sitting down
there don't you
yeah yeah yeah
yeah
and you go down
there
everybody wearing
paddocks
everybody wearing
APs
everybody wearing
rollers
everybody iced out
everybody
yeah
yeah yeah they got it like that
oh joe yeah i listen i i never forget i said i sat courtside with my son my son was little he
might have been maybe five five or six me i sat next to denzel this was years ago i'm not playing
around i'm sure you could find the picture you could google it or just pop it up and that was
the last time i sat courtside and Ms. Buss actually gave me those
tickets back then. This was so long ago
because my son was yay high. He got a picture with
Kobe. Man, my son might have been
five or six. Yeah.
I'll never forget that.
But hold on. That was only for
300,000 for only like 22 games.
Whoa, whoa. You said
22 games.
Wait a minute. You said, you said, wait a minute. You said.
I get courtside for 22 games. Yeah. There's 42 games.
There's 42 games. It's 41 games. Oh, okay.
You play 41 on the road. Right. 41 at home. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
I thought you said 20. I thought you said 21. I'm like, Whoa.
Yeah. That's what I got.
I got 21 games
and somebody else got 20
games. Oh, so
you don't got the whole 40?
The whole 40 would have cost me about $750,000.
Oh, nigga. Oh, hell
nah. Man, you bullshit,
man. Man, you know I wouldn't lie to you
about that, Ocho. You got me thinking you got the whole
41 home games. Nah, nah. I wouldn't lie to you about that, Ocho. You got me thinking you got the whole 41-41
home game. Nah, nah, we
had a lottery system.
I pick a game, he pick a game. I pick a
game, he pick a game.
Nah, man. Man, they got me
fucked up, man.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
I'm just saying, Ocho.
God damn.
I signed up
to do nightcap
Sunday night, Monday
night, and if there was a game on Friday, Friday
night. If there's a game on Saturday, Saturday night,
Monday night. That's what I signed
up for. Right, right, right. It doesn't
call for me to say,
okay, you know what, Ocho? I did that.
That was a one-off. Had that
not been my daughter's birthday,
and at the time when I got the tickets, I didn't even know we were going to do a nightcap. That was a one-off. Had that not been my daughter's birthday. Right.
And at the time when I got the tickets,
I didn't even know we was going to do a nightcap.
Right. So I got the tickets way before I had purchased the ticket.
Because I'm like, oh, your boy's going to be, hey,
your boy's going to be sitting at that thing.
I'll be there all the time.
They're going to be like, damn.
Yeah.
And then I get there and they're like, okay,
nightcap is a possibility.
You and I talk.
We have a meeting. Like, okay. But I'm already at 300 grand. Yeah. Yeah. And then I get, then they're like, okay, nightcap is a possibility. You and I talk, we have a meeting.
Like,
okay,
but I'm already at 300 grand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like,
okay,
what am I going to do?
So I told,
I said,
baby,
I do.
Hey,
she's like,
dad,
because she told me,
she said,
dad,
I appreciate that.
Cause she's like,
I know you don't miss work for nothing.
You don't miss work for nothing,
daddy.
She's like,
I don't,
she's like,
I ain't got that kind of work as a dad. Cause I missed my job at a bit. I said, I don't miss work for nothing, daddy. Right. She's like, I ain't got that kind of work as a dad
because I missed my job at a bid.
I said, I don't pay.
But that's the way I'm wired.
Right, right, right.
Although I understand LeBron's decision,
that's not how, that's not what, I'm not sure.
I don't think I would have done that.
Right, right.
I get what you're saying.
But everybody's different, Ocho.
Like you said, everybody's different. You say, hey, I'm gone i'm gone oh yeah i'm gone i'm gone i'm definitely gone but
boy man i'm i'm out of there bro let's just say for the sake of our i have like if my sister had
to call me and told me my grandmother passed and it was a saturday night i would have played that
sunday because i already know what she's gonna want she was like i'm already there boy what you grandmother had passed and it was a Saturday night, I would have played that Sunday.
Cause I already know what she going to want.
She was like,
I'm already there,
boy,
what you going to do?
She was like,
boy, what you going to do?
Right.
Right.
Go take care of what you need to take care of.
Your granny going to be right here.
But see,
that's our mentality.
My grandfather died.
I missed the day of the funeral.
She's like, what you sitting home for? Doing what? So, My grandfather died. I missed the day of the funeral.
She's like, what you sitting home for?
Doing what?
So that's how I've been my mentality.
But LeBron James, am I surprised he's doing it?
Absolutely not.
I am not surprised when I owe him.
But I'll probably feel some kind of way.
Bro, you our best player.
Yeah.
We need you.
We need you. Especially a regular season game. Bro, you our best player. Yeah. We need you. We need you.
Especially a regular season game.
You know, we got AD.
I mean, you can stand and based on what LeBron has accomplished
and who he is as a father
and understanding, you know,
the makeup and how he moves
in general as a father.
Man, shit, I ain't saying nothing.
I tell you, Bron, go ahead.
If I play for the Lakers,
man, go ahead, bro.
I got you tonight.
I got you. Hey, hey, hey, hey. What time the game
start? Because I have my Lakers uniform
on. Go there, catch Bron.
Go there, catch Bron and get a couple points.
Then I head right on back to the Lakers game.
That would be dope.
But I think, you know what?
As I look back and think about
what he went through, yeah, Bron, hell,
I take the whole week off now. I wasn't even thinking about what he went through. Yeah, bro. Hell, I take the whole week off now.
I wasn't even thinking about what Bronny went through.
Hell, this moment like not even happened this year.
So hell, bro.
What the hell you talking about?
I would have told him nothing.
Right.
They'd be like, hey, where LeBron James at?
Right there.
Well, USC, right?
That's my boy.
Considering, Ocho, considering the scare that they got,
given what Bronny had gone through, yeah, yeah.
Now, yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Yeah, missed that mug.
See?
I ain't going.
See?
I ain't going.
I ain't going.
I ain't going.
I'm not.
Yeah.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
Yeah, I forget.
I forgot all about what Bronny had Brody had gone through.
Check this out, Ocho.
I got Keith Lee.
A Texas bakery, the puttery, went from just five customers per day
to having lines around the block after Keith Lee gave the store owner
a nail proud of stellar reviews for her dessert.
I guess she had told him some days she would have only two customers.
Damn.
He came, gave it, going reviews, lying around the block.
I like it.
I like it. I got one problem, though.
What is it?
I told Keith Lee, and I know he saw my video, when you start going back, doing reviews, let me know
so I can do the goddamn review with you.
And he's still doing reviews
and I'm still at home.
No. He don't want to do no review
with you. Why? He said, cause.
Cause what? Question
that man. Question that man. I ain't question
that man. I just said, you know, the bad
critiques. I just, you know, you know how I feel
about that, man. I'm giving everybody, know, the bad critiques. I just, you know, you know how I feel about that, man. I'm giving everybody,
I'm giving everybody the glory.
No, but you can't do that
because if you give everybody a good review and the food ain't
no good, now, Ocho, now you damaging your credibility.
Well, listen, everybody's experience is different. That's like dating
one woman and you tell
your friend, but you don't want to date her, and then he
had a time of her life with her.
Yeah, well, hold on, hold on. Did I date
her first? You talking about you ahead of time.
You dirty, man.
I can't do that, Ocho.
Hell no.
You better head of time.
That might have been a bad analogy,
but I'm just saying.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
No, I get what you're saying.
You get what I'm saying?
Okay.
I was just saying,
when I think about the service industry,
I want people to stay with me,
the people that are watching.
When I think about the service industry
in general,
especially us, when it comes to us and doing anything and how difficult it is
for us to have anything, to have it up and running and to get us to support each other,
because you know how we are. When it comes to us, everything has to be immaculate. It has to be
perfect and top-notch. And sometimes it's not always like that. It's not always like that,
which is why I would always want those reviews to always be given in a positive
manner because we're very fickle.
We're very fickle as a society
and as a community.
That's all I was saying, but what Keith Lee is
doing is fucking amazing.
I promise you, if Keith Lee doesn't
take me on his next trip or
visit whatever state he's going to,
we're going to fight.
I guess I ain't got to worry about
nobody coming to my house to eat because they saw my dog
sitting on my lap.
People was
mad about that. I saw that.
You said it the last show.
You said nothing
comes before your dogs,
including the woman coming into your life.
She have to accept that.
Yes. And people say your
grandma bro do you know like my grandma know i had the dogs and they'd be at the table right yes my
grandmother knew that yes when i grew up ocho we did not have dogs in the house we had dogs
but they were changed they were tied up under the shed my grandfather had dogs my uncle had
hunting dogs.
He had bloodhounds, blue ticks, red bones.
You know the term red bone?
You know where that came from?
That's a dog.
Yeah.
That's a hunting dog.
Red bone?
A red bone is an actual hunting dog.
That's where the term that they refer to women as,
that's where the term came from. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yes.
Blue ticks.
Yes.
Tree. Yeah, black and, okay. Yes. Blue ticks. Yes. Trio.
Yeah, black and tan trio.
Yes.
My uncles and grandfather
had all those dogs,
but they were in pens
or they were chained up.
Because hunting dogs,
you had to have them in a pen
because they get on the trail
or something and they gone.
They gone.
Right, right.
So they get the tracking.
Right.
It's a wrap gone right so yes
my grandmother had no problem once i got dog as a matter of fact i had two rottweilers
kane and killian i had them in uh and in denver with me and then i went going to the place and
wouldn't let me have dogs over certain size I sent the dogs to my sister and my grandmother.
I wanted, when I came home, I wanted to bring the dogs with me to Atlanta.
My grandma said, no, you can't take these dogs.
I said, granted, but they're my dogs.
I'll pay for them.
She said, so?
You should have let me and your sister have them.
Right, right, right, right.
No Indian giving.
No Indian giving.
So she was cool with the dog.
I ain't had the dog
on the table. They make it seem like the dog,
everybody else had served their food.
The dog was sitting in my lap in front of my food.
Right, right, right, right, right. And y'all, all y'all
talking, y'all women, what you
think that hair, that's not your hair.
Where you think that hair be at on the table?
Oh, okay, okay. Why y'all over there
bumping y'all gums, shedding
over everything. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Now I done got y'all gums, shedding over everything. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now I got that off my chest.
I'm good now.
I like, hey, bro.
I like what you're doing there, bro.
You talking spicy.
Y'all are not going to come between me and my dog.
Me and my dog and my family.
Because everybody knows how I get down.
Hey, I like it. Boy, you
stand on business by them goddamn dogs, man.
Okay, I see you.
I see you. Okay.
Now, if
my grandmother would have had a problem with it, I'm never
going to be disrespectful to my grandmother. If she
says, Shannon, I don't want the dogs in the house, the dog's not coming
in the house. Yeah.
But at my house, it's
just like, Ocho, my mom used to smoke i said mom you can't smoke
in the house you can go back porch and smoke okay that's my mom right but she goes she respects my
house okay yeah that's my grandmother's house yes me and my brother bought that but i got too much
respect for her they're like hold on i'm paying for no i'm gonna i wouldn't even come into my
grandmother's house after midnight.
Right. I would not even sleep, I would
not even bring a girl and sleep
in my grandmother's house. When I come home,
I stayed at the hotel. Right. I didn't
sleep in my grandmother's house with a woman. Right.
Because I got too much respect for her, even though she
said, baby, hey. It's okay.
You pay for the house. Right. No,
I got too much respect for you. Right.
To lay up with a woman in your home. That's not going to happen. We're going to go to the house. No, no, Grant, I got too much respect for you to lay up with a woman in your
home. That's not going to happen.
We're going to go to the hotel.
It's okay.
Yeah, it ain't no risk. Carlton, it's not
the fourth season, but guess what?
It's a respect factor that
I had for my grandmother that I'm not
coming in the house after midnight. Never
ever have I ever set one
foot in my grandmother's house after midnight. Never, ever have I ever set one foot in my grandmother's house
after midnight. From the time I was able
enough to go out from 13 or 14
to I'm 25, 35,
40. Never. And that wasn't
going to happen then. I've never had a
woman in my granny's house.
Ever? No!
Not to have no
have sex? No!
No, I ain't say to have sex. I ain't no I ain't say
to have sex
I mean just in general
to meet my grandma
yeah
yeah no Ocho
no no no
Ocho
you know how it is
I don't look at
I can't speak for
everybody else
but I know
where I'm from
that's the utmost respect
I could not in good
conscience
lay up my grandmother
down the hall
and I got a woman
laying up in my room
right you know I mean you know where I'm from obviously lay up my grandmother down the hall and I got a woman laying up in my room. Right.
You know,
you know where I'm from, obviously.
You know, I'm from the city.
I'm from Liberty City.
And you know,
people that know me
or know my grandma very well,
you know, she didn't play that.
She didn't play that.
She was a school counselor.
She was a teacher.
She worked for the Dade County
public school system.
So you already know
she in church every Sunday
on Wednesday in Bible study.
I don't need to tell you no more.
So you already know what time it is.
Bring who?
Bring who in her house?
Man, shit.
Jamita? Ain't nobody sleeping there.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And listen, I ain't
here for to sit here and stunt,
but I had to be in the house before the goddamn streetlight came on.
When that streetlight started flickering and she come on that porch and call my name, I better be, I better be in distance where I can hear.
Yeah. We had that, uh, that light to come on once it got dark,
but we'd be shooting basketball. But no, there's...
Look, my grandpa...
My uncle's...
Guys that were dated, my aunts,
when they came over to date my aunts,
you know what my grandfather told them?
He said, nobody have sex here but me and the girl's mom.
Don't play that with me.
All that sneaking...
Barney Porter didn't play that.
Straight up, huh?
I tell you what, go to Glenville right now.
Anybody my age from 50 to 75.
Yeah.
Ask them about Barney Porter.
He ain't play.
Ain't play.
That's what, matter of fact, ain't no play.
He said, grown men don't play.
He said, I remember, Ocho, he said, you know what?
The way you play, everybody don't play how you play.
Right.
So be careful playing with people.
Okay.
Yeah.
All that playing.
You see all these people on social media pranking people.
Okay, that's how you play.
That's how you play.
Everybody don't play like you play.
That's a dangerous game.
Yes.
That's a dangerous game.
Yes.
Man, Ocho, I got slapped so hard one time.
You know when I was going, you know people used to say, your mama?
Yeah.
Man, I was working in the field, Ocho, and I'd never forget Henretta.
And somebody going to cut this clip up and send it to her in Glenville.
Man, I told Henretta, she said something.
I said, your mama?
Bah!
Her sister.
Yeah.
Bell.
Her name Maybell. We call her we call her bell yeah man bell slapped her
taste out my mouth i said what you slapped before i said her mama she said we got the same damn mom
mama i ain't do that no more yeah i ain't do that no more hocho yeah so you playing
how you play playing yeah everybody don't play how you play now.
They don't play the same.
Exactly.
T.I. pulled up on a club in Atlanta
for using the pictures of his son to promote a party
they weren't played for.
They weren't paid for.
He's like, don't play with me in this city.
You know better than that.
You know better than that.
You know better than to make a mockery
of a family situation
like that with a
staple of Atlanta.
He brought the A!
Why even play? That's like,
come on, what we doing?
What we doing?
Listen, I like that T.I.
stood on business. I like that he stood
on business. Am I using that terminology
right? I'm old now. I'm just trying to make some use of it. Yeah, I'm saying it right? Yeah, stand on business. I like that he stood. Yeah, for sure. Am I using that terminology right? I'm old now.
I'm just trying to make sure.
Stand on business.
Yeah, I'm saying it right?
Yeah, stand on business.
I'm glad he stood on business
and in front of those people.
They know they was dead wrong.
They was dead wrong for that, man.
You trying to promote something.
Okay, you want to promote the man.
Pay the man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And matter of fact,
I don't even think they would be able
to afford his fee.
Let's start there. Well, don't put the man and his son on the fly then
Trying to be funny, trying to attract attention
Knowing that if you put that on the fly, what everybody gonna do?
They gonna tell, hey, Tip
Hey, man, you at such and such, you hooching such and such
Yeah
What you talking about?
Back to it, yeah, and get people to come
Right
I can see if you in Miami or you somewhere else.
Okay.
Tip.
Man, nah, hell nah.
He got to pick up a phone.
Right.
You can't play with that man in there, eh?
Nah.
Because he going to pull up.
Yeah.
And he did.
And rightfully so.
He did just that too.
He's supposed to.
You think they changed it?
I don't know what happened.
You think they changed it down?
But knowing T.I.
Look, they don't play with T.I. Now, T.I. Look, they don't play with T.I.
Now,
T.I. ain't about that business no more.
But T.I.
usually about that business.
Right,
right,
right,
right.
Real business.
Yeah.
Oh yeah,
I know.
They know T.I.
Yeah.
I know.
Do you think some elite athletes in college
all of a sudden go to the NFL
and forgot how to play football,
especially QBs? No. Did he say elite? some elite athletes in college all of a sudden go to the NFL and forgotten how to play football, especially
QBs.
No. Did he say elite?
Yeah.
See, Ocho, and this is what I've
always tried to explain to people.
Just because you're good
in high school doesn't mean you're going to be good
in college. Just because you're good
in college doesn't mean you're going to be good
in the NFL. Everything is
not transferable. Everybody
thinks that all of a sudden, well, he was a good
running back in college. Well, he was a good
wide receiver or quarterback.
No. Yeah.
It don't work like that. No. And there were
some guys that were
okay. And then
you're like, how
did he? Everybody is not going to have a stellar career like Peyton Manning
come out top notch with number one recruited player.
When he came into college,
he was the number one overall draft pick.
And now he leads with five MVPs,
a Superbowl MVP and two Superbowl titles.
And he had all the records passing yards,
passing touchdowns when he left the game.
Everybody's not going to have it like that and so we just we just we we get so man oh you see a mojo that boy
gonna be bad in the nfl why you say that because he bad in college no it's just different it's
different i don't think i don't think people understand the significance and the jump in talent.
Yes.
Once you get to the NFL, you are literally the best of the best in the world and considered the 1%.
Yeah.
The 1% at your job out of billions of people in the world.
Like, think about that.
You know, I never thought about it that way.
You're the best of the best. When we talk about
some of these players that are the best at what
they do, the Tyreek Hills, your C.D. Lambs,
your Dak Prescott,
your Patrick Mahomes,
out of billions in the world,
you are the one.
The best.
It's such a huge
jump. The transition doesn't always
translate when you leave college to the nfl because it doesn't the level of talent is damn
they're equal yes it's damn they're equal the only thing that separates you probably where you get an
edge is mentally and being technically sound. Yeah. That's it.
You got to believe.
Yeah.
I believe that when I stepped on the field, I was the baddest mofo out there.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I believe that was.
I believe that everything that I endured up until that point had prepared me for that moment.
So there was nothing I was going to encounter on the field that I hadn't already faced a more difficult time coming up.
Right.
So now I had to put the work in.
I had studied.
I had done everything.
That's what, see, Ocho, and I'm like, hold on.
I'll give you a play last night.
Seattle got stopped on fourth down.
Okay, what does game tape tell you?
In 31 or 431, D-Law, Demarcus Lawrence, liked to pinch inside.
He likes to cross the guy's face.
Okay, the guy at the safety walked down
on the line of scrimmage. What the hell
you think the D-line going?
Inside.
Force everything to bounce to the safety.
And then the tight end let the safety beat
him. I'm like, bro,
what do y'all watch?
Do y'all watch tape?
D-Law. And I haven't even broken D-Law down.
I'm just watching Game Company, just watching it week in and week out
because the Cowboys, I know we're going to talk about the Cowboys.
Just watching it.
Third and one, fourth and one, D-Law crossing somebody's face.
Because I want a portion of the bounce.
I'll be there.
I'll be there. I'd be there.
To say, bro.
I'm like, bro, come on now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't get it.
Ken Fulton asked,
there are only three numbers retired in Denver.
Do you think Denver will ever retire 84 or 30?
UNTD deserve it.
I doubt it.
I don't.
You know, at one point
in time, I was like, man, it'd be cool to have a number retire.
But then, hell, after everybody
done wore it, after I done had it all night,
it is, I don't think about it anymore.
I got one retired. I got number two
retired in Savannah State. I'm good.
I'm good.
There we go.
Sure, I want one you want them 85.
You want,
you want 85 retired enough.
I don't know.
To be honest with you.
I don't know.
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I remember Isaac Curtis.
Isaac Curtis is the original 85.
They changed multiple rules because of Isaac Curtis being the offensive weapon
that he was back then.
So I've always showed tremendous respect to him and what he did with the
Bengals but no most of the time when people see that that number 85 it is
synonymous with Ocho you know when you see the number 85
in general it doesn't even have to be bangle related it's still synonymous
with Ocho Senyo yeah you know so yeah I mean with all the, it's still synonymous with Ocho Cinco.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
So, I mean,
with all due respect,
it's cool, right?
That's cool.
I mean, but you know what, Ocho?
I mean, think about it.
From Liberty City and you got your name
and I'm up in the ring of fame.
So everybody come up in that thing,
they're like,
man,
what they got?
They got Chad Johnson
or they got Ocho Cinco Johnson?
They got Johnson.
I think they should put a hyphen
and put Ocho Cinco
next to it.
Yeah.
Hey, that's a crazy feeling, man.
It is, man.
Yeah, and it didn't hit me until after the fact.
You know, during the ceremony, it was cool.
My family was there.
T.O. was there.
You know, my kids, French Friday, all there.
And I looked up.
They let the little drape down.
And I looked at my name
and it was like you know what
boom that's cool boom I shook hands
shook boomer hands I hugged big Willie
and hugged Anthony
Munoz, Ken Anderson
and then that's it
and then I got home in the bed
I got home to the hotel
in the bed with Rel
and boom it hit me.
That's crazy.
I'm from Liberty City, man. Born in
Jackson Memorial Hospital.
Grew up in the 40s
during the craziest era
of all time.
My name is in the stadium
when the odds were stacked
against me.
I happened to make it out.
Like that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. When you think about it,
the comfort where I come from and now to walk into a stadium and your name and
your legacy is cemented. Like they can't take that away.
That ain't going nowhere. No, like that's definitely not. That's dope, man.
That's dope.
Christopher Howard
asked
with Brandon Staley
and Sean McDermott
on notice
which team
has the better
coaching opportunities
and upside
Bills or Chargers
oh that's a good one
both of them
shit
from what they got
from an offensive standpoint
I like both of them
I like both of them
and that goddamn
roster over there
that the
the defensive roster
over there in San Diego,
I'd rather go there.
Oh, my goodness, yes.
Yeah, I'm going to L.A. for the weapon.
I'm going to L.A. for the weapon.
I mean, because both of the quarterbacks, I mean,
you got two big strong-armed quarterbacks that apparently do –
I mean, they don't miss games. You got Jen.
You got Diggs.
Stefan Diggs.
You got Gabe Davis.
You got two Kincaids.
I mean, you got two tight ends.
Nice offensive line.
You go to the Chargers.
You got Eckler.
You got Keenan Allen.
You got Mike Williams, although he's injured.
You got Everett.
Yeah, I mean, both.
I think most of them.
Quinn Nelson.
Is it Quinn Nelson or Quinn Johnson?
Quinn Johnson.
Quinn Johnson.
Quinn Johnson.
Quinn Nelson is the guard for the Colts.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Look, the taxes in California gonna eat you up.
Ooh, yes, they is.
The weather is really nice.
But, I mean, think about it.
I'm getting nine games a year
because I play indoors
and the Raiders are indoors.
Right.
So I'm getting nine games a year
in ideal climate.
In a beautiful stadium at that.
But here's the thing.
Here's the one drawback.
Patrick Holmes gonna be in this division for another 10 years.
If you go to the AFC East, you got Zach Wilson,
you got Mack Jones, and you got Tua.
Do you want to deal with one of those guys,
or do you want 10 years of Pat Mahomes?
Patrick Mahomes.
You have to weigh your options. I ain't running for that smoke. I want 10 years of Pat Mahomes? Pat your bahomes. You have to weigh your options.
I ain't running for that smoke.
I'm going,
I'm going,
I'm going to battle Pat Mahomes.
You want to battle my whole boy?
Yeah, I want to battle,
I want to battle,
I want to battle Pat.
I like that.
I want to compete.
And I got a new watch,
I got a new watch today too.
I forgot to show you.
What you got?
Let me see what you got.
What is that?
From Target. Oh, no. I never you got. What is that? From Target.
Oh, no.
Now, it was $10. I posted it on
my story earlier today.
It looked like a Cartier,
though, don't it?
Looked like a Carter.
It looked like a Carter. They left the aisle.
They just said a Carter. They didn't say Cartier.
That's a Carter.
And they ain't talking about Sean Carter either.
No, don't play now.
You know this thing looks spiffy.
It look real classy, man.
It look real classy.
See, if I ain't say nothing, somebody asked me today,
they was like, hey, boy, what you got on your wrist, boy?
I said, I was like, man, this shit Cartier.
He ain't know no better.
He ain't know no difference.
You know, to the naked eye, they'll never know.
But it cost me $10. It look good, though. Well, you see, good thing I ain't got no naked eyes He ain't no no difference. You know, to the naked eyes, they'll never know. But it cost me $10.
It looked good, though.
Well, you see, good thing
I ain't got no naked eyes.
I dress my eyes up.
I know that was some bull jive.
Sean Pearson.
Sean Pearson said,
Okanocho, where do you rank
Larry Fitzgerald
standing among receivers
all the time?
I don't think he gets
mentioned enough.
I like Fitz. I like enough. I like Fitz.
I like Fitz.
Fitz is one of those, you know what, I'm going to put my hard hat on
and I'm going to go to work.
It ain't for me to be pretty.
If you throw it, I'm going to catch it.
I'm going to get the job done.
Every time that blue collar, do it the right way,
perfect example of model citizen,
model football player.
If there was somebody you want to be like,
it's somebody,
your mama say,
if you want to bring an athlete home,
this is the one you want to bring home.
You know,
everything about him,
he the real deal.
Top five.
I think even statistically.
I love Fitzy,
man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I definitely think where he ranks for me, I think Jerry's the greatest.
Right.
And some people argue and say, well, it's Randy.
But I'm going to go Jerry.
I mean, the man got 197 receiving touchdowns, Ocho.
Yeah, yeah.
The man got 44.
He got 44 more receiving touchdowns than anybody in the history of the game. The man got 22,000 receiving yards. Yeah. Yeah. The man got 44. He got 44 more receiving touchdowns than anybody in the history of the game.
The man got 22,000
receiving yards. Yeah.
Yeah. In an era
when they didn't throw the ball
like they throw it 60, 70%
of the time now.
And he was doing things. I mean,
the dude had 22 touchdowns in 12
games.
So for me, Jerry is it.
I like T.O. at two.
I got Randy at three.
Right.
That's me.
Because I just love T.O.
I love T.O. on the field and his ability
because I know I was going to get everything he got
every single play, every single game.
Yeah.
You know, any time I always talk about, you know, for me,
it's like what Jerry was able to do, man.
It's just.
People take for granted, man.
Like I say, Ocho, see, people think now,
I think the thing is people think now that football and basketball and baseball
didn't start until the internet came to be.
And they just like, oh, man, he wasn't.
Bro, y'all better go back and look at what Jerry did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the man went to, I think it was a 10-time first-team All-Pro.
Mm-hmm.
For a wide receiver.
And they're only two slots.
Yeah.
See, back when we were coming, they didn't have no flex.
It wasn't no flex nothing.
It was two wide receivers and one tight end and two running backs.
You got to go.
You got to work.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I never had the opportunity to see Jerry play in person.
Obviously, I've seen the footage.
I've seen the film.
I've watched the one-on-ones.
But being able to see Moss and T.O. in person for years.
Yeah.
And I try to tell people.
I try to explain it to them.
Listen, watching what Randy did on Thanksgiving with that 3-for-1, 63,
and three touchdowns, or what T.O. did in Philly or what T.O.
did when he was the 49ers, unless you were able to see it in person,
watching it on film, watching it on YouTube,
it will do you no justice unless you saw it with the naked eye.
Un-fucking-believable. The receivers of the day are phenomenal.
The receivers of the day are phenomenal The receivers of the day Are great
Yes
But they are nothing
And I mean that
In an ultra-respectful way
Nothing like watching them two
The guys are skilled now
But the physicality
Has been legislated
Out of the ball game
Yeah
So you can't
See
A lot of back then It was all about intimidation Yeah legislated out of the ball game. Yeah. So you can't, you can't. See,
a lot of,
a lot of back then,
it was all about intimidation.
Yeah.
It was all about intimidation.
And all that talking and all that celebration,
celebrating.
Okay.
Yeah.
You want to celebrate?
Yeah.
Oh,
okay.
Oh,
they gonna get,
they gonna get you.
Bruh.
They gonna get you.
They would take cheap,
they would take cheap shots at you. They would light your ass up. Yeah.
Yeah. Keep talking. Keep
talking. Y'all gonna keep talking. Me?
I ain't looking. Y'all was gonna hit me anyway.
Y'all trying to make it seem like the only reason y'all hit
me is because I'm talking. No, y'all was gonna get me
anyway because I'm on the other team. So I'm gonna
keep talking. But guess what? I'm gonna
get your ass back too. I'm gonna get you back. Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm thinking the other team. So I'm going to keep talking. Exactly. But guess what? I'm going to get your ass back too.
I'm going to get you back.
Hey, matter of fact,
you know what I'm thinking about?
What?
Calvin motherfucking Johnson.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Man, unfair.
It's like God, God, God.
It's like God was messing around up there with the football gods
and said, boom, here you go.
Right.
When I think of Calvin Johnson and his makeup, it's like, and what God did when he created Messi,
obviously completely different statures, you know, and completely different sports.
He would just fuck around and say, you know what?
Here y'all go.
And man, un-fucking-believable talents to watch in person man they are and i got it like i
said i mean to see the like the greats and you know to see reggie and bruce and the dts and the
lts and the times and those guys in their prime now you get you get an appreciation yeah to watch
guys just like move up and down the line.
I mean, they put Reggie at the three technique,
the five technique, the seven, the nine.
Yeah.
It didn't matter.
And dominated all of them.
Dominated.
Yeah.
Dominated.
To see Bruce, he played a five and just like,
I mean, they changed, well,
unabated to the quarterback
because Bruce knocked Boomer Sison out of the game.
He jumped the snap count, and they didn't blow it dead.
He knocked him out.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, they would literally knock you out of the game.
Ocho, they would knock you out, Ocho.
They would knock you out of the game.
No, seriously, Ocho.
They would knock you out.
Your quarterback?
Yeah.
They would knock your quarterback out of the game.
That's crazy.
That's crazy. It is what it is, Ocho. And the fun thing the game. That's crazy. That's crazy.
It is what it is, though, Cho.
And the funny thing about it.
John King.
Go ahead.
Before you ask the question, Tyreek Hill is in that same conversation,
especially with the boys, too, and he's still playing.
Like, he like that.
That's how special he is.
Oh, yeah.
And with his speed, I mean, Tyreek is how old?
Tyreek is what, 29 maybe?
He's not that old.
Not yet, I don't think.
Maybe 27.
28, 29?
Because I think Pat Mahomes, I think Mahomes, 29.
Yeah.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah.
But that's still not 30.
But see, the thing is, because of that speed,
he's still going to be able to play, put up numbers
for another three to five years.
I'm talking about the numbers that he's putting up now.
Now, I'm not saying he's going to get –
I believe he's going to get 2,000 this year.
Yeah.
At least I'm hoping.
Because I want to see it.
I mean, you know, I like seeing it.
You know, I played – you know, a block for a guy that got 2,000 rush yards.
It's something to see.
You see a guy get 2,000, you know, 2,000 rush yards. It's something to see. You see a guy get 2,000 rush yards.
To see something that hasn't been done.
And to see Tyreek be the first to do it.
Because it takes a special guy.
Because you got to be there every week.
You can't miss a game, Mocho.
You can't miss a game.
And he going to get one or two big ones, too.
He going to get out of these, what, six or seven left? He going to get one or two big ones. And it's going to get out of these, what, six or seven left?
He going to get one or two big ones, and it going to put him right over the mark.
I think he got six games left.
He needs a game where he goes over two.
Yeah.
That will put him over 1,500.
So now I got five games, Ocho.
And now, you know, you get a 125 or 150, you sit pretty.
It's a wrap.
Because you know the the thing is,
is that you don't want,
you want to have it.
You want to be able
to catch a smoke route
and walk off the field
like I got it.
Like, yeah.
Because they're going to throw,
they don't want you
to break that record
against them, Ocho.
Yeah.
So they're going to put in,
Jalen, Jalen Waddle
might break the record.
He might have the most
receiving yards in the game.
Right.
Because they're going to be,
they're going to blow the coverage
to make sure that Tyreek
don't get it.
Get it, yeah.
Because he, you know what I'm saying? Because remember, when T.O. had got the record,
Tom Fierce had the record of 19 catches,
I think 18 catches in the game.
Right.
Well, it was Jerry Rice's day.
They're like, we're not going to let Jerry go crazy on us
and I'll be damn, T.O. don't go for 20 for 255.
So that's what happens, Ocho.
They're like, oh, no,
you're not finna go crazy.
You're not finna celebrate on us.
Jayla Water gets 10 catches
for 300 yards.
Yeah, I hate them.
I hate them games like that.
Come hella high water
and they just say,
not the day.
You not go get it.
And you gotta be patient.
You gotta be patient.
You'll get maybe one or two.
You'll get maybe one or two balls and hope you can do something with it but you ain't getting nothing after that no shannon uh john king asked shannon if you and sterling switch team would you
still be the same player you both were uh who do you think would have had the better career
i mean hold on so you mean to tell me he's gonna come into the league
and he's gonna have have John Elway from the jump?
Do you realize who threw the ball to my brother before Brent Favre got there?
I mean, no.
I mean, Anthony Dillwig, Mike Tomczak, he had Don Makowski.
Come on, now.
Don Makowski?
Boy, he was a real deal.
Bro, you're going to get my brother John Elway.
So in 88, 89, 90, 91, he has John Elway.
Do you know what his numbers would look like?
I mean, yeah, I mean, I'd have had Brett.
I mean, I'd have had Favre got to Green Bay in 92.
Yeah.
I mean, probably my career is similar,
but his numbers would have been astronomical.
So, yo, he'd have a much better career than what he had,
and he had a great career even though it was short.
Adrian Adderley asked, what's more difficult,
hitting a free throw in an NBA championship
or kicking a field goal for the Super Bowl?
P.S. for Ocho.
The Saxons are the best junkanoo group in the Bahamas.
Valley boys. Don't do that. Nah, he said
Saxons. Valley boys.
He said Saxons. I mean, he sounds
like he from the Bahamas.
It probably is somebody in the Bahamas
talking about the Saxons. Valley
in your belly.
What's more difficult, Ocho? Hitting
a free throw in an NBA championship game
or
kicking a field goal
for the Super Bowl
I think both
both are equally as
equally as stressful
no they're not
shit
because guess what
ain't nobody trying to block
your free throw
you ain't got no win conditions
but listen
it's still
you
you
you having to hit that free
throw you having to make that kick in front of 80 000 people you got your teammates all 50 all 52
of them relying relying on you to make a kick to win a game you are responsible for that right
free throw arena cheering loud fans, people heckling,
making noise.
You got to lock in and hit a free throw.
Championship, you got to make both of them to win a game.
Game seven series, you make both of them, you win by one.
Shit.
Man, that's equally yoked, man.
It all depends on who's shooting the free throws you got Ben Wallace
you got Chris Dudley
I mean you got Shaq who's shooting the free throws
to win the championship
and then who's kicking the field goal
for the Super Bowl
do I got a Tuck from Baltimore
do I got Benatieri
that's a great question for
Steph Curry and
Justin Tucker. What do you think is much
more difficult?
To make two shots
to win a series in game
seven or to kick a game
in the Super Bowl? How far does the field go?
Oh, you got to take that into
consideration as well. That's a good one.
I mean, the guy that just kicked a 59-yard in a driving rainstorm.
Yeah, that was clutch.
Give me the free throw, Ocho.
That was clutch.
That was clutch.
Or Vinny Thierry kicking the ball, kicking a 45-yard field goal
in a driving snowstorm.
Yeah, that was a good one too.
Come on, now.
You right.
I mean, but I think the thing is Ocho
is that
the question is
pressure
is what you feel
when you don't know what the hell you're doing
because if you haven't been in those
situations before
I mean
how many times has Steph Curry gone to the free throw
line
with a game on the line Justin Tucker was a rookie I mean, how many times has Steph Curry gone to the free throw line?
With a game on the line?
Justin Tucker was a rookie and kicked the game-winning field goal in Denver to send the Ravens to the AFC Championship game in New England.
So he's been in those moments.
Steph Curry has had to make a free throw possibly to get a team into overtime or to win
a game. Now,
you take someone that's never been in those
situations.
Now,
the knee is knocking like you think somebody's knocking on the door.
Yeah, it's different.
It's different. But, you know,
that's a great question. Now that you're asking,
the players that have been in those situations
or clutch situations or moments like that where the Super Bowl is on the line
or a championship is on the line, do you think they're nervous?
Yeah.
You think so?
Oh, you understand the moment.
You understand the moment.
Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
You understand the moment.
Yeah, you know, because, I mean, that's the Super Bowl.
And as much as you try to make the Super Bowl just another game,
everything's going to be the same, 15-minute quarters.
It's not.
It's not.
It's not.
It's not.
Jonathan Batista.
Ocho, have you ever heard you and A$AP Rocky look related?
Y'all could be cousins.
Man, that is my cousin, man.
I've said that millions of times.
Rocky has also said that
on Instagram many a times. I'm not sure
why people are still confused
that we resemble each other.
He's lying.
No, I'm not lying. You're a liar.
I think Ojo
computer went out for a second. I hope he didn't lose
his charge.
I think I'm still going, so
I guess I keep asking some questions.
Ish Moose 1 said,
oh, did you see Ocho Vegas
commercial? And can we rate
his rap skill?
Love y'all.
That's what y'all call those skills?
Y'all call that what he do at rapping?
Look, I haven't seen the whole commercial um i saw a little snippet of it but he got in character so the one thing i know about ocho he gonna fool y'all he gonna i mean
he gonna make y'all thank you tupac i mean he gonna be up there like oh yeah bro i hit that
with uh look when it comes to entertaining
i don't put nothing past sojo because he's the he's the ultimate entertainer he he embodies he
captures he embodies the the moment and so would i be surprised that he hit it out of the park? No. I would be more surprised than if he did
because knowing that
he loved the entertainment.
He loved that. He's a
showman. He loves being in front of people.
He loves being in front of the camera.
So, yeah, I
ain't got no doubt in my mind
that Ocho knocked it out of the park.
I saw a little snippet of it, but
I'm going to wait till the end.
I think it's going to be a Super Bowl commercial, right?
It's a Super Bowl commercial, right?
So I'm waiting to see that during the Super Bowl.
Hey, let's be real.
With no hate for the Cowboys, if Romo had a defense,
the Cowboys had the last two years he's winning a Super Bowl.
Be real, Uncle Ocho.
Dad's caught it.
We all know it.
No, first of all, the mere fact that you signed Jonathan.
Excuse me, not Jonathan.
Nathan High Voltage 52.
The mere fact that you signed off said,
objective cowboy fan.
Let's me know you full of caca.
Dad didn't catch it.
In order for you to catch the football,
at the time, a catch was, if a receiver goes to the ground,
he must maintain possession throughout the entirety of the process.
So coming in contact with the ground,
basically you need to stand up and hand the ball to the official.
Right. Make the rules, bro. Calvin Johnson.
They said that president a year earlier, or maybe, you know, two years earlier with bro Calvin Johnson they set that precedent a year earlier or maybe
you know two years earlier with the Calvin
Johnson situation when he got when
he caught the ball and tried to get up
with the ball with one hand and he said
nope not a catch so
no they didn't
catch it and
Romo was too mistake prone
in order for you guys
to win a Super Bowl you can't for you guys to win a Super Bowl.
You can't be mistake prone and win the Super Bowl because you're going to end up putting a defense at a disadvantage.
So I disagree that had Romo had a real defense, he had a defense.
Y'all had 10 Pro Bowl players one year.
Damn, how many Pro Bowl players?
There's only 22 spots.
Y'all had 10 of them.
No.
Tony
Favre says, oh, you're talking about both sides of your mouth.
The back deck and the offense, they put up 41 points.
Bro,
how many teams scored 56?
It's not the point.
Troy, it's not
the point. How many games have you lost this year because of the red zone inaccuracy?
So what about Philly?
Would you have won the game in Philly if they went three for three?
What did you go?
See, I mean, I can't win.
I give you credit.
I say this is a good team because when your defense didn't have it,
you scored 41 and you're outscoring 41-35.
Okay, your defense, you know what?
You say you're a good defense.
Can you do what you need to do when you have to?
Three stops on fourth down.
Well, damn, what you want me to do?
I'll be telling you what you want me to do.
Troy, what you want me to do?
I give him credit.
You don't like the way I gave him credit.
The fact of the matter is,
you can critique,
you can be pleased with something,
but not satisfied.
That's your problem.
And I told you,
that's what's going to get you in trouble
because you accept things in a win
you never would in a loss.
Had they lost the game,
would you have been okay with that?
You wouldn't have.
And then you're going to talk about,
and penalties.
Again, look at you.
You okay with the penalties?
Nah, but the penalties don't matter.
We won the game.
Okay.
I'll check back with you in a couple of weeks.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says,
today's my birthday.
May I please get a birthday shout out
or a few coins to buy me some La Portier?
Dr. Frankie.
Happy birthday.
Chad just called,
just come in and said his computer caught on fire.
See that what you get for being cheap.
See your boy,
but my computer will never catch on fire.
Get on your cell phone.
Happy birthday,
Dr. Frankie L.
Bellamy. Appreciate the support, man.
Uncultured J, Uncle Ocho,
that'll be the first live event
that I can't broadcast from,
not including Ocho's wedding,
as I believe that's
already been asked.
We're probably going to have an event at
the Super Bowl this year.
We're definitely trying to get that worked out.
Um,
Ocho and I'll be at the same location,
have a live audience.
Um,
I think that would be really,
really cool.
And I can't wait for that to happen.
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Thank you for joining us.
Again, the Cowboys beat the Seahawks 41-35.
Dak, 29-41, 299, three touchdowns.
Geno Smith played very, very
well in the losing effort. 23 of
41, 334, 3 touchdowns,
1 interception. But it was
those fourth down failures
near midfield that really doomed the Seahawks.
Congratulations to the Cowboys.
Thank you for joining us. Tune
in. Catch us again on Sunday night
after the game.
Appreciate you.
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