Nightcap - Nightcap - Durant's Twitter rants, Suns destroy Mavericks, Giannis gets Doc

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to the Wednesday NBA slate, including Devin Booker and the Phoenix Suns putting the beats on Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks and the Milwaukee Bucks holding off the Cleveland Cavaliers in their first game after firing their head coach. Unc and Gil also talk Kevin Durant's most recent Twitter rantings, Giannis Antetokounmpo forcing out Adrian Griffin and ushering in Doc Rivers, Grant Hill saying Draymond Green's suspension got him left off Team USA, the upcoming NBA All-Star selections, Marcin Gortat dishing about the dirty tricks players get away with, and much more! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another edition of Nightcap Basketball Style. I'm your favorite thunk, Shannon Sharp. That is your favorite number zero. Agent Zero. Wildcat, Arizona Wildcat legend that is. Gilbert Arenas, thank you for joining us. Make

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or that someone special that you like or love a bottle. Ladies, if you get this for your guy on valentine's day he would greatly appreciate it hey gil before we get started talk about this son's game and we spin around the nba we got to talk about that shootout that you got shot up in now it was a shootout but you ain't have no gun and got shot up. Come on. You know how much money I lost betting on you? I must have left the clip in the house because when I went there, I thought I was loaded up.

I was shooting all blanks, my man. Gil, how you let this do? And I told you, see, that's the one thing that you couldn't do. Remember, we had this fight. We asked Nate Robinson. We say, Nate, see, that's the one thing that you couldn't do. Remember we had this fight, we asked Nate Robinson. We say, Nate, just don't get knocked down. Nate, you got to do this for the culture. This for everybody. This for all the

homies. This for Pookie, Ray Ray that locked up. We pulled out a little liquor. I said, Nate, just don't get knocked down. And what happened to Nate? Falled out in the center of the ring. All you had to do, I said, Gil, you came losing the first round and the dude got to be like All you had to do, I said, Gil, you came losing the first round, and the dude got to be like, he had to play

overseas, got like three years in the NBA. You lose to a guy like that, people ain't gonna say nothing, Gil. People like, hey, man, a dude was in the league. Dude played overseas. Gil. I lost to everybody. Forget

him. I lost to everybody. him I lost to everybody I was damn near second to last yeah I mean you gotta at least make it to the final so we can show the tape but how you losing the first round and then you not there the rest of the show listen listen listen do you remember when Ocho

had his vision on was Ravens. Yeah. His eyes was bigger than... Yeah. How his knees buckled up. That was my knees during that shootout.

Why were you so tense? Why were you so nervous? Because I've been trying to get this thing off the ground for like three years and just to see it there see the people see all the players the kid came out the kid I was out there tip drilling I might be gonna lie if you don't do dollars on me man I would give you a show that I said because I'm looking at like I'll say well I know Gil Gil man Leafs made it to the finals man I jumped on my timeline they They're like, the finals?

And Gil went out the first round? Agent 12, baby. I'm John Moran out there, baby. Agent 12. I'm off. I'm out the game. I mean, how you going? Gil, you can't tell.

Hey, y'all need to see me. Tell everybody to show up. You got something for them. And you showed up with a water pistol. I cheated up. Listen, I was there at 3 a.m. I even hid the shooting machine so they couldn't use the shooting

machine to get enough shots up. Well, you had to left all your shots in the gym. You left all your threes in the gym. You know how you leave your best stuff on the cutting room floor? You know, you making a move and they say, hey, man, we left our best stuff. Gil, you left your best stuff on the showroom floor. Man, listen, I was sweating

before the thing started. I was the only one in there sweating. Because you were the only one that had the pressure. You were the NBA player. No, we had Nick Young. Everybody was there. The excitement just got the best of me.

I didn't even know that. Where did Nick finish? A lot better than me. He should have made it to the finals, but they disqualified him, said his foot was on the line for his shots. He went from 18 to 14. He mad at me.

No, you should be mad at you. Damn, so he mad at me. No, you should be mad at you. Damn, to him mad at you, you should be mad at you. All the sleep that you deprived yourself of, all the honey that didn't get no honey because you wanted to get up a couple extra shots and you did that for that, Gil?

Listen, I got kids, man. It was like, you didn't come to my game for that. Yes, my kids. Listen, my kids showed up. Soon as I missed like six, they walked out. Like, oh, we didn't come here for this. Wow. My kids ain't talked to me since.

You missed all our games to get out. They're talking about you. Are you Gil with the reader, son? Nope. Who that is? You didn't need to train to do that. Oh, man,

that pressure got to bed. Gil, it happened to the best of us. Gil, it happened to the best of us. All right, let's spin the league. Suns beat the Mavericks 132 to 109.

Book went off 46 points, 17 to 23 from the floor. KD finished with 12 points on 14 shooting. Gil, I saw them when Luka made a three and they went up 16. I come

back down and it's tied. 58-58. I said, hold on, what happened? I go back upstairs to brush my teeth and I come back down and the sun's up. I'm like, hold on, wait a minute. So I come downstairs, I'm changing all the

TVs because I think something glitched upstairs. I guess they went on the street where they didn't miss but like three or four shots over the course of like 16 minutes. It was called that Devin Booker effect. That Devin Booker got wild. He got loose on him.

But that's what can happen when you're dealing with the Suns because you remember over the last couple of games, Book had a game where he went for 52. Then KD had a couple of games where he go for 40s and then here come Book following up with another 46-point performance. That's what happens.

One of those guys can get hot, and we haven't seen that kind of hot shooting from Bradley Beal. We know he can get hot and light you up. But what we have seen is Book and KD alternating games in which each one of those guys goes off. Yeah, you know, when we're watching this team right now, and we we haven't you know watched uh bill go off yet he's only taking about eight like tonight he only took eight shots five or eight still killing right you know he hasn't taken his 15 16 shots i think he's still trying to get a feel for it katie didn't play very well today only took 10 shots right he had a double a little double double almost triple double uh but book but uh booker carried the load for them today.

And that's how good they are. Without Kyrie on that side, it's like they're playing, all right, you're going to go 50 today, and then you're going to miss tomorrow, and I'm going to come and get you 50. We need to see Kyrie and Luka together playing some games and see what they really have. Right now, everybody's

been subbing in, basically subbing in for each other. Right. You're looking at the box line. Devin Booker had 46. Grayson Allen had 15, 5 of 8, 3 of 5 from the three-point line. Bradley Beal was 8 of 15, 3 of 7. He had 20.

As you mentioned, KD played 38 minutes. Didn't have a great shooting night. You know KD had a bad night when he goes for some from the free throw line. No facts. Right. So, you know, all of a sudden he's struggling. He's struggling with his struggle with his shot tonight. He's all four from the three, four, 10 from the floor.

So he shot 40 percent from the field. He shot zero percent from the three-point line, and he's, what, 54-7 is what? 60% from the three, from the free-throw line? So you know Kevin Durant didn't have it tonight, but Devin Booker did. 17-23, 6-10 from the three-point line, and 6-8 from the free-throw line. 46 points, plus 33 plus minus. So where do you have the Suns now? After seeing them, they seem to be getting it together.

Where do you think, how high do you think they can go and how deep do you think they can make a run in the playoffs? It's hard to judge them because we haven't seen all three have a great game to see what their potential is, right? We know when one has a great game or two has a great game, okay, they're going to win a game. I want to see where their ceiling is when all three are making shots. When all three, you got one at 40, you got another one probably at 40, another one at like 28. I want to see what the big three look like when they're all playing well.

Just see how untouchable they actually look. Do you think that's realistic? Because what you just mentioned is the three guys having 108 points. I'm thinking all three of these guys together having something around high 70s to 90 points is a great game.

You mentioned 108 for the three. Can they all get enough shots in order to make this happen? Yeah. I mean, it's enough shots. It's just making shots. When they're all making shots together, like if KD would have went eight for 10, four for

four from the three, made all his free throws, you know, looking at 25, 26 points, right? So, you know, it's, I just want to just want to see when they're all clicking at the same time, how scary does it look? Because in the playoffs, all you need is three of those at the right time.

Some game sevens, a game six. You know what I mean? We need to see what happens when it looks all there together. And that's what I'm waiting for. Right now, they still look beatable. Right. But when you look at it,

are you sure we're going to be able to see that? Because we got a situation and we see Devin Booker get it going. So it's almost like they give up their game and maybe KD got out of rhythm because he wasn't getting the shots that he would normally take because, okay, we're going to feed the hot hand.

But it's still, even with Booker, Booker only missed six shots, right? Yes. That's what I'm saying. Katie's eight for 10, but four for four from the three-point line. If Beal makes two more shots

and he's 10 for 15, those are going to happen. We just need to see it, to see what it looks like when they're both. Like when Katie, Curry, and Clay, when they all was hitting, ooh, Lord Jesus.

Yeah, but see, when they was all was hitting, that's a 30, a 26, and a 22. You say you want a 40, 40, and a 28. And today's game, shit, they putting up that many points. Yeah. They putting up that many points where they could do that.

Right. Yeah, the Mavericks, you're right. When you look at the Mavericks, none of the starters were in double figures except Luka. Green had eight. Lively in the second had eight. Derrick Jones Jr. had six. Grant Williams had eight. Yeah, if you get

that kind of reduction out of your starters, you're not going you're not gonna win obviously they miss Kyrie Kyrie you know Kyrie's gonna give you somewhere 22 to 28 points uh so maybe that that would have been enough to kind of offset what they were doing but yeah the the Mavericks are so undermanned without Kyrie because basically it's a two-man team everybody else try to get in where they fit in but this is a two-man team and one of the men were out I didn't really expect them I didn't expect the game to flip like it did but I didn't expect Everybody else tried to get in where they fit in. But this is a two-man team, and one of the men were out. I didn't really expect them.

I didn't expect the game to flip like it did, but I didn't expect the Mavericks to win this game. Yeah, but see, this is a game where Tim Hardaway Jr., right? What is he coming off the bench for? They got a juggernaut team coming in here of scoring. We need to put our best scorers on the court. Your second- best player that's right now playing when you take Kyrie out is

Tim Hardaway Jr. Why is he off the bench still? Let that shit go. Let that old mentality go where you have a bunch of defensive players that can't score 6-6-8-8. What are they on the floor for? You got to match scoring at this point.

Do you think a situation that if you take him and you take him off the bench, you're going to lose so much of your bench scoring? It's the same. If I can't keep up with the starting five and then I got to sub a man anyway, what's the point? Me coming off the bench

and I got a guy coming off the bench against their bench players doesn't really do me any good because he has to make up this 17 point, this 15 point loss. It never made sense. Let bench players play against bench players because what's happening is you have bench players trying to guard Booker.

Booker don't have to play no defense. Who he had to guard? Who he had to guard today? Green? Josh Green? And the thing was, if you really look at it, Gil, Hardaway Jr. basically played start of minute. Grant Williams only played

11 minutes. Derrick Jones Jr. only played 24 minutes. So theoretically, even though he's coming off the bench, he's really playing start of minutes, kind of like Lou Will and Trez did when they played with the Clippers that last year. They ended up playing starters minutes, even though they were coming off the bench

because more times than not, they would end up closing the games. And so they ended up getting the lion's share of the minutes. But I understand what you're saying is that, look, we need to match their scoring. So if we're down by 20, it doesn't matter what he's going to come in and give us off the bench. We already down too far.

Yes. Right. KD is at it again. He's been responding to a responding guy on Twitter. He's KD says Masters that KD does it does it to disturb you that regardless whatever you do the rest of your

career, you'll never be beloved by the fans in Golden State. You're a Golden state move that's um that you were like anakin skywalker that was supposed to bring balance to the force then you join the dark side fans by merch vote me into the all-star game to support me in real life but trey trey he got off that tweet so look kevin has made it abundantly clear. He's not going to shy away. He's going to speak, be it through his verified account

or through his burner account. He's going to respond. What's your take on this, Gil? Human, man. It's human. I mean, when you're talking about just us, even though we're athletes, personalities, we have feelings too. Right.

And you're talking about you're a Golden State fan, and you're telling me that you would never be loved. Like, two of your rings came because of me. Shut up. Right? You know what I mean? Like, two of your rings came because of me. Right? No matter what you say, Steph Curry has four rings.

Two of those rings were because of me. Right? I, single-handedly, with the help of y'all, came in here and dominated, period. Right? You know, y'all lost to Cleveland and then came and got me. Right. And we won two rings off of my help. So to try to disrespect me

is, would hurt anybody's feelings. Yeah. But he has to understand. People are looking at it. You joined a team that won 73 games. No team in the 77, 78 year history of the NBA has ever won that many games.

And you joined a team that had a unanimous MVP. Since they've been handing out that award, only one man has ever won that award unanimously. That's Steph Curry. You joined that team after having that team down. You had the team down

3-1 that ended up losing the championship after being up 3-1. And you go join them and you're like, bro, it's all good. And people say, well, LeBron did. Cleveland, if I'm not mistaken, Miami won 47

games that year and went out in the first round. So I'm just, I don't understand why he doesn't understand why people like, it'll be, it would be like, who,

who wouldn't say it would be like, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the nuggets when, when the championship and all of a sudden Joel and Bita Giannis goes and

join people like, well, no, wait a minute, bro. And you win a championship. And then you have to be your chest. Hey,

I got two titles. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I got two titles. No, no. Listen, listen. Wait, wait. Hold on. Come on, talk to me. They came and got me. They lost. How can I get you if you don't want to go? No, what I'm saying is they lost 3-1 to LeBron.

So that's 79 that day. That's 73 and that record didn't mean shit because they didn't win a title. But you lost 3-1 to that very team. So what does that say about you? You had them down 3-1. Yeah, we had them down 3-1. We lost. We gave it up. They gave it up too and came and got me

because they couldn't get past LeBron. But you could have said no. I could have. That's what you told me. You said cash is yes. So you could have said no. Could have said no, but they was bagging up. Beat you, baby. Here I come. Right? It's not like he's into the champion. No, but they was bagging up. Here I come.

It's not like he's into the champion. He is searching for something just like they are searching for something. When he's a free agent, he has all the scoring titles. He has an MVP. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. Without a title. Without a title. Just if he ended his career at 28, first ballot Hall of Famer without a title. Without a title. Just if he ended his career at 28, first ballot Hall of Famer.

The only thing he needed as an individual resume was a ring and a finals MVP. Once he won that, he's been floating since. Yes, but here's my thing, Gil. This is me. I believe you

can be great. Great without a championship. But in order to be considered the greatest, you have to have those. And this is why you have to have, because how do you put a guy with one MVP and say he's in

the GOAT? Because now you're saying, okay, Kareem has six MVPs. Jordan has five russell has five lebron has four uh a wilt has four that's regular season mvps now obviously they didn't start handing out finals mvps to 1969 so how many would bill russell finals mvps would he have had if he had won 11 championships? I'm assuming if he wins 11, he's probably, let's just be safe, Gil, and says he wins four. Let's just say that.

He's going to win four. Will probably, he won two titles. He's probably going to be at least one finals MVP, maybe both, because he did average like 18, 19 reb did average like 18, 19 rebounds and like 18, 19 points in the finals with the Lakers. So,

that's why I said for me, you have to have three regular season MVPs and at least two finals MVPs, because now you're just going to be bringing guys so everybody that has one title and one regular season MVP can say, well, I'm in the gold debate. And how do we argue that?

But you can, because at the end of the day, what is a debate? It's only two people, in a sense, right? If we do a vote and we say, all right, let's do a vote, we're going to put five people out there. Whoever has the two highest, the other three get the fuck off, right? You're not even part of this debate anymore. We're saying your name for fucks and giggles. And that's just the way it is. The debate is

really not a debate. We're just trying to figure out how to keep people's name alive. Right. But the thing is that no one has ever mentioned him in the GOAT debate. He brought that up. Me personally, now maybe you heard it because you're around basketball a lot more than I am. I do cover the game, but I've never ever heard since I've been on television the last seven, eight years, anybody put him in the GOAT debate. Now I could be wrong.

Okay, so his debate is, okay, right? Like when we talk about Kevin Durant, we talk about he is probably the best natural score that ever played, right? Yes. Okay. So when you say natural score, it's just who scores better, him, Kobe, or Jordan? That's

the category he's in. That ain't no GOAT. So you're talking about, okay, so he's in the GOAT scoring conversation.. So you're talking about, okay, so he's in the goat scoring conversation. I take will. I take will. But we're talking about not just the natural, the ability to just put the ball in the basket, right? Yes. So that's what, just like the goat of point guards, the goat of shooting guards, right?

The big man. There's these layers of goats that we have. Well, that ain't what we do, Gil. We don't say, okay, the goat of Africa is this, and the goat of India is this, and the goat of this jungle is that. That ain't what we do. I know, but

we say goat. When we say goat, we're talking about a basketball player. And we're talking, a basketball player. And we're talking a lot of times, we've kind of excluded the big man because we say, well, the big man couldn't do it because we got to get somebody to get them the ball. So we've kind of, that's why

kind of Kareem. I mean, Kareem got six MVPs. He got more MVPs than anybody. He got six championships. And he was the all-time lead scorer, the third all-time lead rebounder. And people pooped Kareem like he was the all-time lead scorer, the third all-time lead rebounder, and people poo-poo Kareem like he was trash.

And people don't realize what you see Joel Embiid do, Kareem was doing that in the 70s. But that's what I'm saying, it was the 70s, man. They didn't care about basketball until the black and the white got together.

When this was gumbo, right? When it was a gumbo, when it was a mixing pot of all the talent in the world, 78, 79, that's when the NBA started. That's why Magic Bird was their guys. Right. The GOAT debate is really not a debate, right? You have Michael Jordan who stands in a room by himself. Right? The things he did for the game can never be

matched. There's never going to be a 10-time scoring champ. No. So no matter what you say, he's going to hold, that's going to be held on everyone's hand. 10-time scoring champ. 6-time finals MVP. Those are not going to happen.

I mean, not for another 10, 15, 20 years. He's going to be in a category of his own. Everybody's really just fighting for second. It's fighting for second place. That's all this argument is when you're talking about debate is who's going to fight for second place at this point.

Okay. But I've really never, look, and like I said, obviously, when you're a great player, obviously, you hold yourself in very, very high regard. And I tell people this all the time, and people used to look at me like I was crazy. I say the greater the player, the greater

the ego. It's really simplistic. And the guys in my sport the greater the ego. It's really simplistic. And the guys in my sport that have the biggest egos are quarterbacks. They just do the best job of hiding it because they've been groomed of always saying the right thing. But they have the

biggest egos. They absolutely do. That's why the coaches have to coach them the delicate. The most delicate because they are the ones that to coach them the delicate, the most delicate because they are the ones that feelings get hurt the most, the quickest. So a lot of times he might be saying, he might be coaching the quarterback through one

of his other players, yelling at the other player, hey, bro, you got to make that catch. When the quarterback threw that shit over his head. No, no, bro, you're talking about make the catch. I'm about to give you a better ball to catch. But making the catch. I'm about to give you a better ball to catch. But I was surprised. I could see.

Let's just say for the sake of argument, it's a conversation. It's Kareem and Jordan and it's Magic or it's Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan is another guy. People make it seem like Tim Duncan didn't play in the NBA. Do people realize how great Tim Duncan was? He had the battleq and Kobe ass. He couldn't get out of the West unless he went through them. And those were prime

Shaq and Kobe. Not Shaq in Boston. Not Shaq in Cleveland. Shaq at the Lakers, that is absolute apex. And a Kobe that was coming in his own. A 1920 23-year-old Kobe. I mean, y'all, they're like, okay, yeah.

A 15-time all-defensive player, a regular season, a multiple-time regular season MVP, a multiple finals MVP, and people just like, oh, okay. I'm like, well, damn. You know what it is? When you take all accolades away and you say, all right, if we put the best of the best and we have this

tournament of a champion, we all are for ourselves. I don't know if you can get anybody today in today's game to bet against Kevin Durant. You can put Kobe,

you can put Michael, you can put... I don't see anybody betting against him. They do that king of the heel. That is probably the most unstoppable sumbitch that's playing. But let me ask you a question. Do we got a guard?

Because who is he going to guard now? You got to stop him right now. He ain't going to make every shot. Every team he's played on. Oh, he is king of the heel. No one's beat him in king of the heel. Steph, Clay, you name every team he's played on. He is dominant.

That's what I said. You wouldn't get nobody to vote against Kevin Durant. And that's putting that ball in that. Yes, but here's the thing. The things that make that get you in the go. So if we took away Jordan six finals and six MVP, he ain't to go. He ain't in the discussion. We have to use accolades to ultimately measure how great someone is. But wait, he didn't have those

when they gave him that title, though. He was, but see, that was the thing. That's not true. He was not the GOAT in the 80s. Larry and Magic was. And everybody talked about he was in the 80s, yes. 87, 88,

88, 89. it was the article greatest players to ever walk the surf. But the thing was, Gil, they were looking at it because they had never seen anybody score and glide and do the things that he was doing.

But he wasn't winning. That's why you have to have X because had he been winning, well, the 80s would have belonged to him instead of Magic and Larry. But he wasn't winning. But what I'm saying is even in the 90s, when he started winning his championships,

all he was doing is just shutting everybody up that he wasn't the greatest of all time. But nobody waited till he had six to say, okay, now you're the greatest. But Gil, you do realize like Magic and Bird had long, Magic was on his last legs. Magic was not the Magic Johnson in the 80s that was winning. Larry Back had gone out because think about it,

what it takes, remember how what happened when Clay and katie went to all those finals that was the lakers and the celtics so the lakers and the celtics was battle out so they went like 84 85 skip 86 87 and and they battled out one of those teams was in the finals damn near every year yeah from the time Magic got in Magic went 80, Larry went 81 Magic went 82, 83 Larry went 84

they played each other in 85 Bird won 86, Magic went back to the finals in 87, 88 and again I'm like bro Magic went to the finals 9 of his 12 years in the NBA 9 but that's what I'm saying but bro, so they're making Magic went to the finals nine of his 12 years in the NBA. Nine.

But that's what I'm saying. But none of it meant nothing if they gave him the crown, basically crowned him when he won his first one, because it was what he what he brought to the game itself. So, you know, when we when we looking at the finished resume, when we're finishing his resume. Yeah, we can say, all right, six rings, six this. But when he got the crown, he didn't have all those accolades. They just knew he was the best

player to ever walk this planet. You don't have- Let's just say for the sake of argument, let's just say for the sake of argument, he does what he does, and he doesn't win any titles. Is he the goal? No, no, you doesn't win any titles. Is he the GOAT? No.

No. You can't have that discussion. You cannot have an honest discussion with a man that has what. Let's just say he wins because he did win one. He won an MVP in the 80s. So he just gets one MVP in the 80s. And let's just say he wins two finals. He's not the coach. And all those scoring titles?

All those scoring titles. Because hell, if that's the case, Will is. Will had seven and changed his game. Okay, so in 92-93, how is he the greatest player on Earth with two rings? He already surpassed Will in all of them. Nobody was talking about Wood anymore in 92, 93. Like I said, people

didn't, all of a sudden the gold conversation came into effect because now, because we're measuring him against Larry and Magic because of contemporaries. Because, I mean, Will, first of all, there was basically just Will and Russell. They're two entirely

different players. One was a score. Other was a great defender. Accomplished, won a lot of rings, but I mean, one guy averaged 30 and 23 for a career. I mean, the guy never averaged less than 18 rebounds in a season.

I mean, you average up all the 35 plus. Will got five seasons in which he scored at least 35 points a season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you average up all the 35-plus. Will got five seasons in which he scored at least 35 points a game. That's crazy. That's crazy. Five. Let that sink in. Five seasons.

I mean, he got like 60. Well, he had like, I mean, how many 60-point games does he have? And so, for me, I just think the thing is the goat discussion. I think, I don't think we can honestly have the discussion without, without titles. And, but,

and I, and I understand that Kevin says, Hey, why y'all not including me? I just don't think he has enough regular season MVPs. I think the two finals MVPs, you get two championship finals MVPs, for me you got to have at least three regular season MVPs to enter that discussion

because the guys that we would include in that they have so many but that's what I'm saying if Jordan is the goat and that's who we're going to name as the greatest right there's nothing you can do individually that's going to accomplish but the game has changed so much that

there's just stats you're just not going to be able to obtain. There's a board you're not going to be able to. His criteria can't be the criteria. So you have to curve it. So that's why I said he can't be a part of this anymore because he's not in this door.

I'm including everything because you put weight on regular season MVPs, you put weight on regular season MVPs. You put weight on championship, finals MVPs, scoring titles, all NBA, all NBA defensive teams, all-star games, points scored, things like that. Because we have to bring all of that to the table. But the problem with that is they done changed that format too. So the sinners back then that got voted in because it's just them and the rest of the sinners, they get smushed in now with- It's the front court. Yeah, so you took away future sinners from dominating like the rest did.

So that kind of hurts the development, right? And we can say Curry was the unanimous winner, but you're telling me then who on God, Green Earth, voted against Jordan 88 performance? Right. When they voted against LeBron, remember Camelo got the one vote? Somebody voted against Shaq. Remember that Shaq year? Shaq was one vote short. So most of the stuff that we sit here and try to bring in is, it's faulty too, right?

It's fine. Now we have all star voting. Yes. Where now those fan votes are not even true anymore. Now you get 50% something else. Right. We get to die now too.

Yeah, cuz I think the players get a part of the vote, too, right? And the coaches... Don't just have their own goddamn vote. What you need to be in this vote, too? Right. We don't even know what y'all voting for, to be honest. Because usually, Gil, the fans

always voted the starters in the NBA. That was the one thing. The fans said, you know what? This is who we want. And I think they kind of, it was somebody that, oh, it's almost when they got Zadja Pachulia in. They kind of tweaked it after that. They said, come on now.

See, y'all making a mark. But you remember when the fans voted Magic? Magic wasn't even in the NBA, and they voted to start the All-Star game. He won the final. He won the MVP in Orlando in 92. But that's what I'm saying. If you have the fans voting and you got Zaza

in there, what's the problem? The fans voted. The people who were paying the rent, this is who they want. It ain't his fault that he got a big fan base. That's the point of it. So you can see who the fans love. They wanted him.

Think about Yao. Yao was always going to get voted in. He got the biggest fan base in the world. They had to cut China off so they wouldn't vote them Yao for everything. But that's what I'm saying. That was the point of it. Fans voting who they actually

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in cleveland and he's with brooklyn uh that that beat steph i think if he beat Steph and Clay in the finals one year Kyle Korver? not Kyle Korver what's the guy he hurt his ankle he was just with Brooklyn the last team he was with was Brooklyn who the hell is still in the league he gone now he played with KD

Kyrie the white guy not Kyle Korver? nope nope that's good He played with KD, Kyrie, the white guy. Not Kyle Corbett? No, no. That's good. Joe Harris. Joe Harris. Remember Joe Harris won the three-point competition against Dan McClain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I forgot. Why is that so far-fetched? With great shooters on a given day, yes. Yes. Yes, it's not far-fetched to believe that in a shooting contest duncan robinson could be kevin durant not that he's a better player they're better players they're players that could have been michael jordan the shooting contest that were inferior players that could be colby in a shooting contest that were inferior players i don't think

people understand that when you say somebody can do something, that doesn't mean that's just a specific thing. I get what he was saying, but there's a difference between a shooter and a shot maker. A shooter can be a shooter, just chuck that shit out.

Listen, when I scored 12, I was a shooter. I was a shot maker that day. Right. Kevin Durant can flat out put that thing in the basket. Yes. And I don't think UD understands how great Kevin Durant's shooting actually is. Right?

But if it's just me and you out there, Grill, you don't get any more credit for shot making as opposed to what I do if the ball just goes in the basket so I think that's what UD is saying if we just had a contest and more guys just got to put the ball in the basket I believe he's saying I believe Duncan Robinson can beat Kevin Durant

if they just got to put the ball in the basket. They took 100 threes 25 spots 20 shots. Kevin Durant will blow him the fuck out. You remember he played in Golden State with Clay and Curry. Yes, yes. They said those shootouts was nightmares.

Just flat out shooting. Well, I saw Steph Curry make 102. So you think Kevin Durant can make 104? He's never done that. He's never done that. He's never done that, right? But they said Kevin Durant was never in third place. He was never in third place. So he won all of them.

No, no, no. They said Curry was winning, but Kevin Durant didn't get third. Right. Don't get guaranteed second, basically. They said that when those three were shooting, they used to have shootouts. Right. They see who was the best shooter. They said the only thing that they will beat Kevin Durant on is coming off screens.

Yeah. Coming off screen. But when it just came out to five spots, 20 shots, like, and they're shooting to 100? Yeah. Kevin Durant had that thing on a swivel too. It'd be very interesting. When you bet your money, it was like, ah.

Right. Because a lot of times, it's guys that we think, oh, that's the big name. That's a good guy. I mean, how many times did Reggie Miller win the three-point competition? How many times did Ray Allen win the three-point competition? So, you know, on a given day? But the way

he was saying it, he was trying to make it seem like he's going to take him just as a shooter, just flat-out shooting. He'll take him every single day. If we take it 10 times, Duncan Robinson's losing nine, guaranteed. Just flat out shooting.

Kevin Durant, that's what he do. Right. We look at his percentage because he got to create and do all this. Right. All right, spot up, YouTube spot up shoot all day. That's all Kevin Durant does. So if we get, so if we say, okay, we're going to get, we're going to treat it like the

three-point competition and the all-star game. And we say, what, did they get five balls per spot? If we did that ten times, how many times you think Kevin Durant win it? Seven. The only thing that would be with Kevin Durant's problem

would be picking it off the rack versus passing it to me. That's why I said, like, most of our shooting, we say, all right, everybody get 100 shots. And as I said, if they all got 100 shots, Duncan Robinson's not beating him. He don't even beat Kawhi Leonard. Like, those guys shoot the ball. Yeah, but it all depends on what spot they're shooting from.

If it's in the mid-range, I'm going to take Kawhi. If we're talking threes, I'm taking Duncan Robinson to be Kawhi. Because that's what Duncan Robinson has to do. Yes. And see, this is why I would take Duncan Robinson on catch and shoot because he catch and shoots more than Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant creates more of his

own shot. Duncan Robinson ain't creating no shot. Duncan Robinson's coming off a screen, off a pin down, a flare, but KD is going to create a shot. Duncan Robinson ain't creating no shot. Duncan Robinson's coming off a screen, off a pin down, a flare, but KD is going to create a shot. KD's going to dribble, you know, he's going to two dribbles to the left, two dribbles, pull up.

That's what he's going to do. That's not Duncan Robinson. Duncan Robinson ain't dribbling and pulling up on nothing. I can tell you right now, if we did a, if we asked Duncan Robinson how many shots you take a day, I guarantee you Kevin Durant is triple times that.

That's all he does. That's all he do. Like, that's all. He watches games, Twitter, shooting, right? So the guys that look like they're not that great, like, you really have to understand how great a shooter is when he's moving and dribbling in this. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Oh, yeah. We're going to do all that now. I'm taking KD. No, you're talking about, OK, no. That's what I'm saying. Flat out corner shooting. Morgan Robinson don't have a chance. Yeah. If you're talking about, OK, no, you got to dribble. You got to create your own shot. OK, we're going to give you 100 shots and they're gonna be three they're gonna be mid-range they're gonna be you know free throw line they're gonna be top of the key i'm taking kd no i'm

taking dougan robertson no if you talk about hello no but you know you're doing all this on your own no what i'm saying kd dougan robertson's he, he moves to come for his shot, right? Now, he has less energy, right? Kevin Durant spends more energy trying to dribble the ball and get through people. Yes. Double teams, right?

So if you say, all right, Kevin Durant, you can just sit in the corner and just shoot. That's effortless to him. But Gil, how often does he just practice just sitting in the corner? All day. That's what I'm saying.

That's what you do all day. You have to get the blueprint first. You have to get the foundation of just pure shooting in. Right. He will take 500 spot shots first before he starts dribbling. That's what I'm saying.

It's not what people think. Like, the people like him, the people like Kyrie, just the flat-out shooting part, the Lucas, the flat-out just catching, shoot spot shots, that's instilled in them already. But that's just not their game because they had to do more. So somebody like Duncan Robinson, you don't even put up enough

shots to even compete in something like this. It just looks good because you take few shots, so that means you pick and choose which shots you're going to take. So you look like you're a better shooter. But if we put that value in and say, all right.

Oh yeah, he's not the ball you're shooting at Kevin Duran. No, what I'm saying. We're going to take 100 shots from whatever spot you pick. Right. Duncan Robinson wouldn't even be in the top 20. You think he's going to get fatigued? I don't think he'll have enough in his arm just to do that. I don't give a shit.

It's different. Those shooters compete. You have shooters like that. They compete with the stars to see who can shoot the best right you'll be surprised who can just put balls and put that ball in the bag I ain't surprised because when I go to the game I see

the guy that don't even get off the bench and he effing swishing 10 12 and effing rope so I'm not surprised so if that guy doesn't get off the bench and he's only getting into mop up duty and he shoot like that, I could understand what the guys like a Steph, what a guy like a Cameron Durant

and guys that can flat-out shoot and score the basketball. I already know what they're doing. Yeah, I had teammates pull that on me, right? Oh, you a volume shooter. You can't shoot. And they bet $20,000 against him. I said I'll beat him with one arm. What are you talking about? I'll beat you with one

arm. Put the 20 racks up. Beat him with one arm. Yeah. Because this is what I do. Y'all looking at the stat sheet like this. He takes six shots a game. Your percentage is going to be higher. Don't let this fool you. He don't

need to be in the gym long enough to beat me. Right. It's like a running back that gets five carries a game and he's averaging six yards, seven yards a carry versus a guy that's running the ball 20 times a game and he's averaging four and people automatically say, man, look at his yards per carry. He better. Yeah, he's not

getting the attempt, but once he gets to like eight carries or 12 carries and they done hammered on his ass, now all of a sudden he's going to be averaging three yards a carry and not that six or seven. Udonis Haslam calls, well, not UD, the Miami Heat retired Udonis number 40. And Paul Pierce kind of took issue to that.

What's your take on that, Gil? Hey, man. When you say rivalry, it's a rivalry, man. Them boys don't... Like, UD deserved that. Like, what he's done for Miami and, you know, the culture he's brung,

the loyalty he's brung. He belongs in that race. Right? Paul is just petty. That's just petty. Right. He said he'll whoop them both in the grocery store

if he catches them. Yeah. Which is bold because that's two versus one. Yeah. Well, it better not be in Miami. Because the whole grocery store is going to be with UD.

So it's going to be the whole grocery store against them too. Hey, listen. Paul Pierce ain't leaving Los Angeles. True. True. True. But he doesn't deserve that, man.

That, that, that, that. I agree. I agree. You can't look at someone, because a lot of times, you know, you just look at like, man, that's supposed

to be reserved for the like, the historically great players of an organization. To have your number retired and nobody else be allowed to wear that, that's supposed to be reserved for D. Wade or LeBron,

Steph, KD, guys of that nature. Not a guy that probably the last decade played, what, five, six minutes a game. Yeah. Yes. We can't see the value like the heat saw the value in him.

Yes, because, you know, we hear what he did, you know, turn on his money to get, you know, LeBron and what. Yeah, yeah. He stayed when he could have went to Dallas. You know what I mean? So when they talk about championships, right, they're looking at him as, you're the reason we won these championships,

right? You might not have the numbers and all that, but you are the glue that glued all this together. That's Mickey's value. You know what I mean? Sometimes, you know, from the outside, we're looking at numbers and they're looking at loyalty. So that's a loyalty move

and he deserves that. I agree. I don't have a problem with a team rewarding loyalty. What he brought, the culture, the effort, what he held everybody accountable, practice, games. So I think it's a job well deserved. Congrats to the OGUD having his number retired. That's a huge honor.

From Miami, hometown team, retired in Jersey. Kudos to you, bro. Bucks beat the Cavs 126-116, but that's not the story. The story is Adrian Griffin, 43 games into his rookie season, gets fired. And I read, and everybody from Stephen A., my partner, to you, and everybody that I've heard says nobody is surprised by this move. With the man sleeping with the owner's daughter, with his wife,

I mean, how the hell, I mean, you got the second best record in the East, one of the best overall records in the NBA, and they're like, hey, bro, and they tap on your shoulder and say, hey, your service is no longer required. Have you ever heard of consulting? Yes.

Do you know what consulting is, right? When you need, when you're asking somebody to give you advice on something, right? Yeah, Bucks, I don't think Adrian's getting it done right now. I think we should replace him. With who? With who, Doc? Me. I'm the guy, right?

I'm your consultant. I know what knows best. Like me, I want to consult for Club Shea Shea. Right. Right? I want to consult for Monday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. I think we need to consult you with a person by the name

of Gil Butts, right? Your chatty be like, hell no. Is that what Doc was doing? Hell yeah, that's what Doc was doing. That dirty macking ass man. Come on, Gil.

Unc. That man dirty macking-ass man. Come on, Gil. Unk! That man dirty macked everybody. Everybody. But here's the thing, though. Gil, and I know you're a great player, but this is not a good look for Giannis. I mean, J.K. got gone. Boone Holzer got gone

Adrian Gifford got grown gone I mean damn and it's been reported that he changed plays and refused to sub out well if the thing is if the players have lost respect for the coach we gotta go whether it's 10 games 15 games five, it doesn't matter. If the players don't have respect for you, you got to go. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. With all due fairness, it was Monday. It was Monday.

Right. Embiid, that motherfucker, was 70. Right. At the same time, he got what? His brother probably telling Embiid, he got 55. Adrian telling myself, he like, at the same time. He got what? His brother probably telling him, Embiid got 55. Adrian telling myself, he's like, hell no. This is Monday. I'm not subbing out on Monday.

Nobody's subbing out on Monday. What Embiid was doing over there, I'm not subbing for nobody right now. I'm playing Detroit Pistons. Right. Trying to get what Embiid is doing on that ticker. Yeah. Giannis had a monster night tonight.

I think he had a 36-point triple-double. Yeah, he had a triple-double tonight. Put up monster numbers. Again, Giannis had 35 on 16 of 24, 18 rebounds, 10 assists in 35 minutes. And if you notice, Giannis, he's had, I think

if I'm not mistaken, I think he has like 7 or 8 triple doubles this year. So he's really rounded his game. He's always, he could always score, obviously. He could always rebound. I. He could always rebound. I hope he can rebound. He's only Brooke Lopez,

seven foot tall, and can't rebound. But he's expanded his game as far as facilitating. Now the assist total, now he's more, I mean, higher assist total. He's averaging, what, six a game? And like I said,

I think seven or eight times he's had triple doubles. But we see that from Joel Embiid. We know Nikola Jokic is one of the premier passing big mans in the history of the game. Actually, he's one of the premier passers in the game, regardless. Small, big, medium, it doesn't matter. He's just that good.

But Yannis' game, he's rounded his game, and he's really coming to his own. I mean, I guess I kind mean, I kind of feel bad because the guy gets an opportunity. The likelihood, what you think the likelihood of Adrian Griffin getting another head job? He's 33 and 13, 30 and 13. First of all- Somebody thought that wasn't good enough.

That someone is winning culture. He was winning culture the year. They would have finished. Who was going to win it, right? He was going to win culture of the year with that record. I mean, for God's sake, the guy who replaced him has the worst percentage

of culture of the year. He has the worst. I don't even know how he got coach of the year in 99. He was 41 and 41, which is the worst percentage any coach of the year. You are 50 fucking percent and you won coach of the year.

How is this man getting? Who is this man? Who does he know? Well, I guess they're saying. The president's son that nobody know about. Who's his daddy? I guess they're saying. The president's son that nobody know about. Who's his daddy? I guess they're saying, well, you went 41 and 41. You should have been 21 and 61.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like the team was 33 and 17 the year before you got there with Chuck Daly. You go 41 and 41. They give you an award? You are the first. Man, listen, listen, listen, listen. This only makes sense for the Bucs if they never play a game seven

in the playoffs. Because right now, he's the worst coach in game sevens. His record is the worst in game sevens. And two of the wins that he has was against an eighth seed. He went to a game seven with an eighth seed the year they won the championship. And then the second round, he went to a game seven. Those are two of the wins that he gets to add to his resume.

Other than that, he's done lost every fucking important game that you can, he's the most, he's the guy you do not want coaching in a game seven. But I'm looking at it and Mark Jackson, Mark Jackson,

Doc Rivers has had three coaching jobs before Mark Jackson has even got an interview, if I'm not mistaken. My man, Jackson has even got an interview, if I'm not mistaken. Man, his daddy must be the president, I'm sorry. Glenn, this don't even make sense, man, I'm sorry. His resume and him getting jobs,

it doesn't make sense. His name, there's nothing in his resume that says, ooh, we need this coach. So how does he keep getting these coaches jobs? Who is he sleeping with? Who do you know? Let me know this person. I want a job.

Let me get a job. I get fired. This man getting fired. And then while he's fired, he's audition I want a job. Let me get a job. I get fired. This man getting fired and then while he's fired, he's auditioned for another job. Because like I said, I just don't know.

It's just hard for me to see that what Mark Jackson did, whatever the case may be, that is so egregious that it disqualifies him from ever getting a job again or from ever even getting an interview. That's what's the hard part for me. What did he do? Okay. I mean, he's not the only, I'm sure he's not the only coach that loves God, goes to church, has Bible study. I'm sure he's not the only

coach in NBA history that was like that. I need somebody to definitively tell me Mark Jackson did, Shannon, what he did was so egregious, it was so beyond pale, that it disqualifies him from ever being a coach

in the NBA. I just need somebody to tell me dependently. Listen, when you have power, trust me, you can keep somebody out of the NBA as long. Listen, when Michael Jordan left the Wizards, anybody, you can Google it. When he was trying to get a job for the Milwaukee, I'm in the room when that call happened. He better not ever work in this NBA while I'm still alive, click.

He didn't get the owner's job until Mr. Poland passed away. Before that, Michael Jordan was exiled from coach for owning anything that had to do with the NBA until Mr. Poland passed. So when you being blackballed, goddammit, it don't matter who you is. Cuz I seen it with my own eyes. And if you want to Google it, you can Google it. Mr. Poland passed in what, December or November, December.

Michael Jordan didn't get offered the job until the next year, February. Two, three months later. Yeah, it's just, like I said, I've had a few conversations with Doc, seen him in passing a couple of times. Seems great to me. Obviously, I had Jack, Mark Jackson, on my podcast.

He's great. Love talking to him. For me, like I said, a good dude. We communicate a little bit, but it's just like I said, and I understand, you know, people like in the chat said, well, you know, he said some comments about

the alphabet, you know, the LBG and the T and the Q and the trans and those. That's not, that's not, that's not a, people have said things about that community before and still got job. They're saying something about other

alphabet, the N, the I, the W, you know what I'm saying? So, come on now. Let's keep it a stack here. It seems to me that you can say some things about some communities and go get a job, but if you say something about

this one, it's a disqualifier. But is it true that the owner is in that alphabet? The owner of Golden State. I don't know who in it. He might be probably in the community that they only have three levels.

Yes. He in that group. But I don't think he's... Like I said, people in the comment, I'm just commenting what they're saying in the chat. I don't think he's, I don't think, like I said, I don't, like I said, Gil, I'm just, people in the comment, I'm just commenting what they're saying in the chat. I don't know. I don't know. I don't, like I said, I haven't heard. I don't know. You know, you hear things about

the religion and he was leaving here and coming down here to his church and he was doing all that. I don't know what's true and what's not. But it's just hard for me to believe unless it's something a Greek, like, because because i did i want to know so what's the disqualifier from you ever getting a job again

who knows man they're just recycling these these coaches like like when does it when does it, we've seen what he did with a young group, right? He got them the confidence and we've seen what they turned into, right? We can say he was the building blocks of Golden State success. Mm-hm. And you keep hiring people who

showing you that they cannot steer the boat. Right. Championships, right? You won a championship in Boston, right? Mm-hmm. Had all this talent come in and Kevin Garnett, and he fueled these guys to win. But that was a veteran ball club.

That was Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. Yeah. And even though Rondo was younger. But like you said, but this is a veteran ball club that was Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and even though Rondo was younger but like you said but this is a veteran ball club too so it might work because you got Lillard and you got Giannis and you got Chris Middleton and you got Lopez and you got Bobby Portis but you don't have the star power you had

on that Boston team and you was barely getting out of the first round you went you was 8-6 in the first two rounds. That means you lost all road games. You was oh and six on the road your first two rounds. You couldn't win a road. You're supposed to be this high-powered coach,

and you got this high-powered team, 66 and 16, and you can't win a road game against the eighth seed? Sometimes it says something about you. You are buckling under pressure on your rotations, win a role game against the AFC. Sometimes it says something about you. You are buckling under pressure on your rotations, on your subs. Like you do not, he does not, he does not. Well, you're three and one. Whatever got you three and one, you hold on to it.

Like you the person that says, have you ever played backer rap? No. No, I never played backer rap. You play roulette? Nope. Blackjack and craps. Craps, right? Yes. It's like somebody

you're getting full and you're going to stick with full every single time. Right. Right? That's what he's sticking with the same thing every single time. They've adjusted to what you were doing. Now they won. Are you going to adjust to them? No, we're going to keep doing it the same way.

And you wonder why you keep losing. You are the worst adjuster. You're too cool. You're too cool. You're too cool. You're too cool. You're cool. When you was in the bubble and y'all was up 3-1. Yep. This is true.

Kawhi Leonard said, man, if you don't win this, you done. Because he came in talking about his golf score. This is game seven. You over here talking about how you shot on the golf course? And then already talking to Philly. Hey, yeah, I'm about to get fired.

Y'all looking for a coach? We put a poll up, Gil. Who should the Bucs have hired? 18% said Doc. 82% said Mark Jackson. 82%, listen. 82%. The dude you fired, what I'm saying is the dude you fired is 30 and 13.

I don't give a shit who likes him. He has us 30 and 13. We don't give a shit who likes him. He has us 30 and 13. We don't have no problem right now. Right. We don't have no problem right now. Because what is Doc coming in and doing anyway? What is he going to do? Let's just be honest.

You're coming in in the middle of the season right now. All right, go coach Bucks. What do you really know about them like that? Right. Nothing. You're just looking at your assistant coach. Who should I sub in? What's the sub in patterns?

Right. You're listening to the assistant coach right now anyway until you fire him and bring in your own staff. Right now, you don't know these players like that. Right. So you're not really doing nothing anyway. Go out there, roll the ball. Y'all just damn do what y'all do. I'll figure it out on the fly.

It's bad. Like his resume, the resume speaks for itself. If you want to look at the things you want to look at, then that's fine. But the resume says, game seven, you bet your money against them. Yeah, true. True. So, Jack, Mark, I know you're going to stay prayed up, but keep praying, bro, and hopefully, you know,

somebody gives you another opportunity to be a head coach again because I think you're very, very deserving. Grant Hill says Draymond's suspension was the reason for Team USA omission. Is that fair? Does Draymond deserve to make Team USA? No, hell no. He's not supposed to make the USA.

No, no, no. No. So in other words, G. Hill said, G. Hill said, you No, no, no. No. So in other words, G. Hill said, you know, he got suspended. In other words, so we're going to use the suspension instead of saying Draymond was not worthy of being on one of the, what is it, 24,

28 players that's eligible for Team USA. They got 41 players. They got 41 players? Oh, my bad. Damn, my bad. They brung They have the NBA in that, man. I don't know what they're doing over there. But it's only 12. But Draymond, listen,

Draymond ain't going to goddamn Paris because he choked out one of the country. Rudy Gobert? Yeah. They might do something bad to him over there. They're going to pack him out out there, man. You from the French side of Compton, Rudy Goldberg's like, yes, come on over here, Draymond. Hey, man, Draymond better not walk into Paris.

Hey, USA ain't that damn dumb bringing Draymond Green after he done did what he did on national TV. Yeah, nah, this is it. Hey, you can do that in America, but you go get your ass over here in Paris, boy. Yeah, it would definitely probably been a distraction with Draymond in Paris, given what he did to Rudy Gobert. All-star starters will be announced Thursday. The Western Conference, I'm going to do the top. I'll do the top five.

We'll do top six. LeBron leaves with almost 4,000 votes. Nikola Jokic is second with 3,500 votes. Kevin Durant is third with about 34,000 votes behind. A little over 33,000 behind Nikola Jokic. Anthony Davis is in fourth Kawhi Leonard is in fifth and Alperine Sun Green

is sixth and then that's the front court and then the guards you got Luca Steph Shea Gilgis James Harden Kyrie and Anthony Edwards so who's your start?

Devin Booker is in ninth place. So who's your start? Obviously, right now, if it holds true, LeBron, Nikola Jokic, Kevin Durant, those are your starting frontcourt. Luka and Steph Curry would be your starting backcourt. We did it on Wednesday. We don't need Thursday to say this goddamn list. Okay.

And it seems like Anthony, I guess, Anthony Davis, probably Kawhi, would be too reserved for the front court. Now, Shea Gilgis, the thing is, your back court, James Harden's in fourth, Kyrie's in third, Anthony Edwards is having an outstanding season,

he's in sixth, Devin Booker having an outstanding season, he's all the way in ninth. See, the problem is, when you go to the coaching oh yeah that's a puzzle right there because they don't go by that list no more you know like so you want to be a starter because once it gets to the coaches you do not know what the metrics is right so um right you're gonna take anthony we know shay we know shay is gonna be one and we don't know who the other guards are going to be,

but he's going to be the first reserve. It's going to be Shea and Fox. Over Book? Anthony? For coaching, you're averaging 28, 29, 30, and your team is winning. The coaches are going to have him in.

They're going to have Fox and him as those two guards. They're going to have Fox and Shea as the two guards. Now they'll have Fox and Shea as the two guards. And then now there's only one more guard because from there you have to have Anthony Davis, Kawhi, Kawhi, Anthony

Edwards. So that's it. So you're saying LeBron, Nikola Jokic, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard. That's five. Luka, Steph, Shea Gilgis, Ant-Man, Darren Fox. That's 10. So we got two more.

You did another. Are we taking a big? Are we taking Sungoon, Paul George, Sabonis, Wimbinyama, or Chet? It's hard for one of those rookies to go. Because that's got to be reserved. That's for Jordan. That's for Shaq. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those type rookies. LeBron didn't make the

all-star game with a rookie. KD didn't make the all-star game with a rookie. So, I like to, like, when a rookie makes the all-star team, Michael Jordan made the all-star team, Michael Jordan made the all-star team. Yeah. That's got to be special.

Yeah, you got to have. You got to be a monster. You got to be a monster. You got to be almost four. Hey, I'm 100% Hall of Famer when my career goes, Gil. Mm-hmm. But it's going to be interesting. Fox Ant, Kawhi, AD.

What is this? It's 12, right? 12. So it's off the bench. It's Shave, Fox, Ant-Man, Kawhi, AD. Book. Because remember we had this conversation? I said, Gil, I think Y-A-D. Book. Say Book. Remember we had this conversation?

I said, Gil, I think Ant-Man is the next guard off the bitch after Shea because of their record. Yeah, Book. They gonna get Book. Who's in first place? Luca? No, who's in first place

in the west right now it's the OKC Thunder by percentage points over Minnesota so they might oh they might put Cat in

yeah Cat ain't even on the list yeah Cat not it I mean because what happened is usually the number one team

always got about two to three people in it right so because of winning, they're going to have chat. Okay. Because if you need another big, because you have

LeBron, Yoke, KD, AD, Kawhi. Because let's go to the front court of the East. Giannis is first with over 4.3 million. Joel Embiid, Jason Tatum, Jimmy Butler, Jalen Brown, Christoph Pazingas. Guards, Tyrese Halliburton is hurt, so he's not going to play.

Trey Young, Dame Dollar, Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Brunson. Okay, Giannis is obviously a starter. Joel is a starter. And Jason Tatum is going to start because they're 2.5 million over the next most guy. So those are the three starters. Okay, now, Jimmy Butler. How many games has Butler played this year? So the guards is going to be Tyrese and Trey as starters.

Right. And because if Hallen Burton don't play, then he'll be subbed out and they'll probably put Dame. Dame. Okay. Right. So it'll be Trey and Dame if Tyrese doesn't come back. Right. Right.

So that'll be- So now you got Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Maxey, and Jalen Brunson. Those should be your three reserve guards for sure. Who you got? You got Brunson, Brunson,

yeah, Brunson, Maxey, and who? Tyrese Maxey. And yeah, so Brunson, Maxie, who was the other one? Donovan Mitchell. Damn, Donovan don't get no love. Right now, I'll probably go with...

Because he's fourth in the voting behind Dane. Yeah, but the voting don't count, so I will go with probably Brunson, like my 52, Brunson, and probably Donovan Mitchell. Okay. So those are probably my two guarantees. And then Max would be that swing man as the third.

Okay. So who's going to, after Tatum, you like Jimmy Butler? After Tatum, you might as well just pick anybody, goddammit. For real, though. I mean, truth be told. Because you got Jalen Brown, Christoph Porzingis, Bam Adebayo, Paulo Banqueiro, Julius Randle, Mikael Bridges. So what is going to happen is they're going to put Jalen Brown and Porzingis in it.

True. Right? They're going to put Jalen Brown and Porzingis in it. True. Right. They're first. So it'll be those two in there. Julius Randle, I mean, he might because he's the big and there's really not. But if you take Giannis and B, Tatum, Butler, Brown, Przingis, that's six.

I don't see Butler. I don't really either. He's not playing well. I mean, he's, I don't, you know. But he hasn't played a bunch. I know, so I don't really see him. But I think you and I are in unison with the guards. Halliburton, Trae Young, Dane, Mitchell, Maxie, Jalen Brunson.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like, the only thing that's going to hurt one of those other three is if Tyrese plays. If Tyrese plays, then it'd be Tyrese and Trey. And then you have Dame and it's hard not to put Brunson in there.

Yeah, he gotta be. I mean, he's gotten his position. He is the all-star. I'll have him before Randall. But Randall's gonna make it because of the frontcourt people. Those frontcourt people All-Star. I'll have him before Randall. But Randall's going to make it because of the

frontcourt people. Those for the strong frontcourt. I just hope they play better than what they've been playing because that ain't no basketball. Yeah. They're getting almost 200 points, Gil.

Come on now. To be honest, I was there in real time. I played three of them. they just i mean come on they're getting almost 200 points gil come on now oh man it's to be honest i was there in real time i played three of them mark the first one i made i just like that um that shooting contest yeah i was bambi legs i'm not even gonna lie like i didn't even want to be subbed in i was i was so happy don't sub me in coach I might run around and fall and hit my face I was so giddy out there man couldn't control my legs so most of the guys who were there

for the first time they're just so happy to be there the older guys you know it's rest most of these guys are just trying to get that extra energy that rest. This is the place where you want the accolades, but you don't want

the form. I want the all-star nod without actually playing in the game because I don't want to get hurt because I want to get ready for the rest of the season. It's really hard to make the game serious. It's only going to make the game serious.

It's only going to be serious at the end when somebody's trying to win the award or someone's trying to win the game for the bonus. Yeah, you're right. It's an all-star. I mean, it's fun. This is supposed to be a fun event. That's why I said they need to start adding more. They need to start adding a one-on-one competition. Get rid of that skills crap.

No, I need skills. I like skills. You don't like skills? What is it? Dribbling it around, throwing it in a hole, running around throwing some cones. What does that mean? Well, you have the one female in the city,

and then you have two other players, and then they have the layup, and then you have the free throw, the three-point shot, the half court. I like that. Give me one-on-one. Put this as a one-on-one tournament. Man, ain't nobody going to want to play. You crazy as hell.

All the trash they be talking. You put a one-on-one grand prize, $100,000, $200,000. And guess what you're going to have? You ain't going to have-one grand prize, 100, 200 grand. And guess what you're going to have? You ain't going to have none of the starters, and you're going to have the same thing. You got the slam dunk competition. You're going to be getting somebody out of the G League playing one-on-one.

You're going to have Kevin Durant. I bet you Kevin Durant ain't going to win no one-on-one. You're going to have Tatum. You're going to have all. One-on-one is pride. One-on-one. One-on-one for scores is like a damn near MVP. That's bragging rights.

Bragging rights, huh? That is, that's like, not even a, I don't even know what it is in football. But this is, this has no team involved. I'm fighting for my name on my back. This is one-on-one, mano-a-mano. I can win this award every year. Jordan got six dunk champs. I got six one-on-one champs.

Nah, they need to do it like they had in the bubble. Have a horse or a pig competition. Nah, man. Nah, one-on-one. Check up. Check up. Have a horse or a pig competition. Nah, 101. Check up. Ain't nobody checking that. The starters ain't going to do that. You're crazy.

The 101 players, the Jama Rants men, they are playing 101. But here's the thing. It usually, for the most part, all the competition guys were involved in the three. You had to be in the all-star game. Because most of the time, a lot of the guys were in the dunk contest competition guys.

They were actually in the game. There ain't nobody in the game. But see, the dunk contest, there's guys that belong in a dunk contest that probably don't even get to play and stuff, right? Yes. They pick who they want in the dunk contest versus just picking the best dunk contest guy. So there's guys that's on benches that got the 48, that got those type of dunk. That's who they need to get. In the NBA, same thing with the three-point contest, right?

This is not about percentage. Just go get the best three-point shooters. But here's the thing. Are they going to want to participate? Because remember with the dunk contest, you had the Dr. J's, you had the Michaels, you had the Dominiques, you had the Clyde Drexler, you had the guys, you had the names.

Now, man, you don't know these guys, Gil. Yeah, but let's go. You want to rewatch those names, those dunks. Yeah, they were names, but Dominique did how many dunk contests? Three? No, he did more than that. He did like four or five. So, okay, so they're giving four or five.

So that means he had, what, about 20 dunks? Mm-hmm. 16 was windmills. Yeah. 16 was windmills. When we went up there, we go, oh, okay, he gonna windmill? Okay, one-hand windmill. Okay, from the middle. All right, he gonna go to the side.

Oh, windmill from the side. Oh, he gonna go from the other side on the baseline. Oh, the guy that definitely got more creative. Oh, absolutely. But still, they want to see a name be creative. That's the problem

because here's the thing. I mean, when you really think about it, the Kobe dunks and the Jordan dunks, if we put them in the scheme of thing, like Levine, like Aaron Gordon, like Vince Young, what are we talking about?

Yeah. But it's called evolution. No killing. Even then, when they were doing their dunks then, in real time, Yes. Those were great dunks at the time. I did the 88 dunk contest.

The Otis Smith, first dunker, he did a 360 wing meal, got a 42. Someone did a two-hand dunk, tapped it on his back, 46. What rigatoni is going on here? Right. The hardest dunk was first out of 42. Every dunk after that was higher.

Like, yo, stop this, man. This is ridiculous. But like you said, when it's not judged fairly, dunkers decide they don't want to participate. No, no. Because once Aaron Gordon had too many historically great dunks not to have won one contest. I don't give a damn what anybody says. And pardon my language. He's had too many great dunks.

You can't have that many 50 dunks and say, well, he's had too many great dunks. You can't have that many 50 dunks and say, well, he didn't win any of the competitions. Sometimes you just go against a better dunker at the time, but at that dunk contest, even

though we're like, he is dunking great, no one said Zach Levine shouldn't have won with his dunk repertoires. Derrick Jones should not have beat Aaron Jones. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I mean, yeah, true.

He shouldn't have won. Yeah. And you remember they had Sean Kemp. Wait, wait, wait. He lost a dunk. Wait, wait. He lost to Derrick Jones. He lost to Zach Levine and Derrick Jones.

So Zach Levine got two, right? I think, yeah. And then Derrick Jones. Derrick Jones beat him. Yeah, yeah, Levine and Derek Jones. So Zach Levine got two, right? I think so. Yeah. And then Derek Jones beat him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's dope. And like you said, remember what you, we had a conversation. If you give Levine and Aaron

Gordon cold, are you mad? No. Aaron Jones, excuse me, Aaron Gordon did the dunks are too creative, too great for him not to

have won one award. Yeah. Listen, sometimes when you can't make a decision, it's okay saying you guys are both the winner, right? Yes. The grand

prize is $100,000. Okay, goddammit, we got you $100,000 and we got $100,000. Nah, hell nah. You get $50,000, you get $50,000. The grand prize is $100,000. We got two winners, you got $50,000. Hey, y'all the NBA, goddammit. I didn't tell you. Hey, listen, I did my dunks to win this motherfucker by myself. I didn't tell you to Listen, I did my dunks to win this motherfucker by myself.

I didn't tell you to split it up. So don't split my check up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, then keep ducking. Hey, you'll get tired. You'll be shooting threes.

Oh, my God. You ready for that? Morrison Gortat says NBA players get away with dirty tricks. Gortat reveals some of the crazy things that players get away with on the court. They would do a lot of things. When people box out, they would try and grab your balls and squeeze it. I swear to God, they do crazy stuff. Imagine your first reaction like, dude, what the hell?

You smack and then you're attacking the guy, but the referees most of the time don't see it. The first move, just the reaction when you're effed, you're cooked because he sees your reaction. On the pick and roll, Chris Paul would grab your leg or he would punch you in the nuts. Dudes do that all the time.

That's why you do this during screen is that you cover your nuts to make sure that you lift your weight and your body armor is strong. Y'all be doing stuff like that, Gil? Nah. Those are called dates.

He's right about that. He's right. When you set the screen, you got to hold because they'll run through that. Arms, they'll run through the ass. You got players like that. Right. So that's why y'all be doing that, huh?

You got dirty players like that, though. My bad. I used to close line. I mean, not close line, but I used to clip. I'd be running. Ref ain't looking. Oh, I clipped the back of your foot Let it hit the other one Right

Oh Yeah that I did that a few times I did that to Carmelone He almost put the hammer on me And then I did that to Dallenberg And I don't know what kung fu move He hit me with

Oh boy I was running down the lane Fuck Boom I just fell out of my house Ah Would you get a flagrant one I was running down the lane. Boom. I just fell out of my house. Would you get a flagrant one or a flagrant two? They didn't call nothing.

What? They didn't see it. That's what I said. I don't know what ninja kung fu black belt he had with him in his training, but he hit me. The ref didn't see it. My head went back. I had to sit on the thing. Wait, but he hit me. The ref didn't see it. My head went back.

I had to sit on the thing. Wait, hold on, ref. They're going to have to play four and five right now. Somebody hit me hard. I had to go back to the replay to see what happened. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali

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What was it like following the MJ era? Because you, we look, I don't care what anybody says, everybody explain meeting MJ the same way. He doesn't seem real. He's mythical. I'm not the only one. Hell, I thought I was the only one

because I'm not in the sport and I'm not as big as some of the guys that are saying the Allen Iversons, the Shacks, LeBron, a lot of great basketball players saying

meeting him, he doesn't see, he seemed like he's levitating. And that's what you had to follow because I'm sure people, a lot of people in the organization, I shouldn't say a lot, I'm sure some held him in very high regards, although the owner, Mr. Polian,

probably didn't. You know what it is? It was the pressure wasn't as high as it should have been. I think because they didn't make the playoffs. They won 37

games. The taste that was left in the organization, right? It wasn't a feel good. So when I went there to talk to Mr. Copeland, and this is why when I got hurt, he gave me 111. When everyone told him no, right? He said, if you get me out of this

Jordan bonanza, because they didn't think they were going to when everyone told him no. He said, if you get me out of this Jordan bonanza, because they didn't think they were going to sign a big free agent. The second biggest free agent that year was Lamar Odom, didn't mean. When I signed, it was like a big deal. Oh my God, we got one.

Because we thought what happened with Jordan, nobody was going to come here. First question my dad asked, why? Because he's a Jordan fan. Why Jordan here? Why is he not owning the team? So Mr. Poland had to tell him, you know, how the team felt and all that. So when I got there, there was no pressure because we were so young.

Right. So no one expected anything. Right. You know, we one expected anything, right? You know, we played. We got to really, like, fail. And I think the second year when, you know, I really got in that gym and trained my ass. I didn't go home. I sat in that gym and really perfected a weapon of choice. Understanding the playbook, understanding my teammates, understanding the coaching,

looking at game film, looking at the playbook, rewriting the playbook. I spent the whole summer trying to figure out how to be great in this new system. Calling Larry, hey, what do you think about moving this way? So me and Larry, sitting in the coach, coach sitting in the back, redo it, okay? Like, I had the whole playbook. Damn it, 300 plays. You can scrap this, this, this. We don't have the type of player.

Then they make a trade, got Antoine Jamison in. Like, oh, wait, hold on. Give me back those plays, because we got Antoine. Now that can change shit up. And we got off to a start, and I don't think the city was ready for it because they didn't have no expectations for us. So when we made the playoffs, I became a folk hero. Right.

Right? We didn't supposed to make the playoffs for damn near 2006, 2007. And we made it in the 2004, 2005. Right. 4045. So, you know, from there that swing of turning the organization around the city just loved it. Right. Upgrade

King asked, are the Lakers a couple of 40-42% three-point shooters away from the NBA Finals? Chemistry granted. Much love to Nightcap fam worldwide between Lovegill's addition to at Nightcap. How do the Lakers? How do the Lakers get out of the crowded West to the NBA finals?

What do they need? What are the one? What is one thing? If you say, you know what? I'm the general manager. I'm Rob Palenka up until the trade deadline. What does Gil do to help the Lakers? Doesn't guarantee no guarantees

but what do you think the Lakers need in order to make a deep run to the playoffs and possibly get to the finals right now D'Angelo's playing very well so this is what you hate during trade day line when a guy turns it on something that you've been expecting

him to do from the beginning he turns it on right now averaging about 27-6-5 in the last five games. You know what I mean? D-Lo playing. D-Lo been balling that five games. D-Lo playing like he don't want to leave. Yeah.

Other than that, you just need another player. You need another player you can count on. That's why I said if we can make a trade and get Deontay here without losing our starting five, that

would help. But to give away a starter plus this and some draft pick, I don't see how that... I don't see that. That doesn't help. Yeah. We need to add him to our roster and that still is not enough. Right. I think what we really need is called next year.

Next year. Who do we need next year? Florian Carlos Suba fuck it, Agent Zero, if Kobe wins 2004-8 would have seven rings. Is he considered the GOAT? I don't think so. Not with one MVP. And

that's... So, y'all have him at one MVP. The NBA players, we got him at three. But you can't. I just go by what I see. So how many you got Jordan at? Nine, ten. How many you got LeBron at?

First note, how many you got Shaq at? Yeah. Think about it. When we talk about MVPs, when you really look at history, you're going to,

you look at like, wait, who got, who, who got an MVP when Jordan was playing? Right. Who? Will.

If his team was number one, he led the NBA in scoring. How did y'all give it to someone else? Like, it's that, you know, we're so tired of him winning and doing this. We got to give it to someone else? It's that. We're so tired of him winning and doing this. We got to give it to someone else to make it look like

everyone's great. That's why I said sometimes it's so hard to look at these for what it really is because it's not what it is. It was jaded. It was biased intentions. So, you know, like, yeah,

Jordan got six, but nah, not really. You know, he had whatever year he came in from 88, 88, 89, to when he retired in the two years, that was MVP him. He got the best record with the best team. He was the best player,

leading everything and scoring, leading everything. How he's not winning, come on. Right. Yeah, but like you said, they just get tired. Sometimes they get tired of voting for you. It's like, hey, we got to give it to somebody else. Yeah, but Kobe went one. No.

He got legit three. Jabari Robertson asks, how can you be in the gold conversation if you lost more finals than you won outside of MJ and Kobe three-peated with Shaq and almost did it without. Well, LeBron almost three-peated because in Miami they won two and then lost to LeBron. So we don't do

almost. We don't do almost. And this is what I'm on right now. And I'm going to keep preaching it. When we're talking about resumes and whoever your gold is, whoever you think should be in it, focus on their resume. Don't tell me what someone else's resume is.

Don't tell me, oh, this guy went to the finals ten times but only won four. Who are you like? Then tell me his resume. Stop telling me everybody else what they didn't do or what they can't do. I like that. Just lay everybody's resume down and we go from there. I do not

care about who Jordan played in the finals and how sorry he was. How many rings he got? Six. Okay, six finals, six rings, ten titles, ten this. That's it. I don't want to hear what he didn't do. Right. What he couldn't do.

Right. That's irrelevant. Right? We don't do that in no parts of life. When we go into the workplace, right? When we go into the workplace and we're talking about our... That job, you don't say, well, my resume better than his. Yeah, we don't hear mine.

Look better than his. Look what I got. Look what he got. Look where I went to school at. Yeah, so we're just presenting our case for ourselves. Right. That's all we need to do. When we're sitting here debating, and whoever you have, just debate your facts on why he should be good.

Let that person debate why he should be good. Going back and forth, you focus on why my guy shouldn't be the goat. That is pointless. Not with me. I got to debate

Stephen A. My guy's still the goat, Stephen A. I know you're watching. Tell Stephen A., you talk about your guy and only his stats. Don't look over here. Let me defend on my stats. Don't tell me. Like, if I say four championships, Stephen A., don't you say he was there 10 times.

Four championships, that's all you need to know. Which was four times more than your guy. Samuel Griffin asked, should LeBron's hesitancy to enter the dunk contest affect his status as a GOAT contender? No! Listen. Why? The reason he didn't enter the dunk contest

is because he don't have dunk packets. No! He got, hey, what you want to do? Just jump from far, pull it out like here. Exactly. You want to do this? Right. That's it. That's it. Right. You know, dunking on people ain't dunk contest

things unless you're going to have people jump and like try to block it and he get to the other. There's just some people who have creativity and don't have creativity. Yeah, you got to have you to be a great dunker. You got gotta have imagination. Yes. Because you gotta think, like, the dunks that like, when Ben Carter broke

those dunks out, I'm like, what the? And when Aaron Gordon, who takes the dunk off the mascot, sit in the chair, and dunk the ball? That's what I'm saying, like, it's Or go behind his head. Come on. That's what I'm saying. Or go behind his head.

Come on. That's what I'm saying. That's not what his... He can jump from far. He can dunk and jump high. Dunk contest is about being flexible and understanding how to move in the air. It's something he didn't

have. And then those guys, you need to be like, the shorter the guy, the better the dunk looks. It's the lanky guys who can torque their bodies. I mean, Aaron Gordon was a big broad guy, but for him to be able to contort his body like he did.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, that's crazy. And Spud, I mean, come on, when are we going to ever see another 5'7", a 5'6 guy with a dunk contest, Gil? But listen, the dunk Spud does

versus the 5'6 guys today, it is two different dunks. But see, here's the thing. But Spud wasn't missing dunks. I mean, Robinson, Nate Robinson, missed like 15 dunks. I mean, Nate Robinson missed like 15 dunks. He missed 15 to make one. You know, the year Spud won,

it was destined for him to win. He beat Dominique. Yeah. As a matter of fact, it was in Dallas. Yeah, it was because every dunk he did, it went in. It actually went in. There was no. It actually went in. There was no man.

It was his time. And we had never seen a guy that small get up that high. And he had to bounce the ball off the floor. He had to bounce the ball because with them little hands he had to try to take the ball up there with one hand and dunk it. And what's going to happen, Gil? That little baby hand like this here. Man, he needed a softball to be able to dunk it and cuff it like the other guys would do it.

You should have said they should have changed the ball for him. Yeah, man, he needed a Nerf basketball, man. He wasn't going to be able to take an NBA basketball up there. So he had to bounce it off the floor. He had to throw it off the backboard. But still, Gil, did you see how high that man was up in the air? Nah, not for real.

They said that ball was heavier than him, boy. If you'd have tried to take it away. That's funny. The VA 804 baby said hey handsome Gil what do you think of Matt McClung in the 23-3 dunk contest that dude was doing the doggone thing he was he won

he won he deserved to win I don't know if you knew him in high school but yeah as a high school dunker if they did a vote Yeah. As a high school dunker, if they did a vote of

in-game dunking, the best in-game dunker in high school, he's one or two. Really? Arguably, he's one. Because the dunks he did in the dunk contest, he was doing in-game on people. Like the stuff he was

doing, you're like, wait, hold on. How tall is he, Gil? I don't know. Never seen him. But I know he's January 6th. Capcom. He's a Capcom. I like the idea that even though he's not in the NBA,

he gets to defend his title. Yeah. They gave him an opportunity. Yeah, I like the NBA, he gets to defend his title. Yeah, they gave him an opportunity. Yeah, I like the NBA, the fact that they did that. So I hope it opens it up for more opportunities of outside guys who have these jumping abilities that come into that contest to give the world another look. It's like giving hope. It's a hope thing. And I think the NBA needs to realize that these guys might not be able to make it to the NBA as players,

but the dunk contest, they can train all year and work on their jumping ability and work on their dunks to enter this contest. So there should be some qualifier that allows if these guys win certain contests that's sponsored by the NBA itself, they should be able to enter the dunk contest to bring in some new blood.

Okay. Seth Potter says, I love the show. I follow both of y'all shows. I was watching Gale's Arena yesterday when Jenna said women shoot better than men. My question is if the WNBA best shooters versus NBA best shooters, who wins?

Hey, man, they getting their ass smacked on the court. Not in real life, on court. On the court, right here. Yeah. I agree. I definitely think. I definitely think. If you take the 10

best WNBA shooters and then take the 10 NBA best shooters, I think the 10 NBA best shooters are going to win. I just do. I ain't talking about dunking. I'm talking about just shooting. You know what it is, though? I asked the coach. I'm shooters going to win. I just do. I ain't talking about dunking. I'm talking about just shooting. You know what it is, though?

I asked the coach, I'm not going to say his name, who coached WNBA. He said there's one thing about the women's game. What they don't have is they want to be the best. All of them want to be the best. He said in the NBA, everybody wants to be the GOAT. They're trying to figure out how to be the best. All of them want to be the best. He said in the NBA,

everybody wants to be the GOAT. They're trying to figure out how to be the GOAT. The women's game, they're usually content. And because they're on the bricks of playing and not playing, going overseas and stuff,

they don't really have the time. With the NBA, dudes that sit in the gym six, seven hours. They don't have their own gym. There's a lot of things that are handy. They're making 50, 60 million and WNBA players, what's a max player can get, 250?

Where are the Sparks? If the Sparks was training right now and they want to go to the gym at one o'clock in the morning because they can't sleep, they can't go to the Staples Center. Right. They don't have their own arena. You know what I mean? So that's the advantage, right? You know, but, you know, but as a flat out shooting, there's some shooters out there that's just flat out can shoot the ball.

Hmm. shooters out there that just flat out can shoot the ball? Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Uncle Gil, Gil, can you share a specific game or play in a basketball or your basketball career that taught you a valuable lesson either about sport itself or life in general?

It was called Humble Pie. I tasted it a little bit last weekend, but I didn't really like that one. So I just spit that out. I'm back to talking trash, right? Right.

But it was Dwayne Wade. Right. It was after that Olympics. They lost in the Olympics. They put the zone in on them. So the season comes up, and they start talking about Miami. Like, yeah, talk about Miami.

Nobody cared about no Miami and no D-Wade, man. We doing what we doing over here. We just going to put a zone in. They can't shoot anyway. Right? So I forgot about it. And it was like, somebody was like, yeah, you know, D-Wade coming to town. So I was like, oh, that's what's up.

They was like, no, he's on fire right now. Like he's prepared for you. So I started looking at his numbers like, oh, no. He has caught a rhythm. I called this man in his hotel room. Hey man, you know these reporters that got everything misconstrued.

You know how you use that word, misconstrued. That wasn't me. And I'm like, whoo! When I seen his eyes in the game. Oh no! I was say, hey, use your words. Speak to me. Say something. He was on demon time.

That was the last time I said anything about a player. That man molly-whopped me my whole career after that. I think I was 3-13 against Dwayne Wade. Candace McKinnon, hey, big bro, give us a

rookie story about Nick. Because you are Nick. Nick Young was your rookie, right? Nick was my rookie. Here's a rookie story. It didn't go in his favor, but he got beat up, Gil. What? No, it wasn't beat up, but he was shot up.

Oh. They was playing paintball, and him, Dominique Maguire, and Andre Blotch decided that they were going to sneak in my house. Because I rented the mother of my child, I gave them her house. Right. She moved in, right? So I gave them hers, so they were just renting that,

so they didn't pay no bills. So they snuck in, and then while I'm asleep taking my nap, they all shot me with the paintball. Ah! Man, they got paint all over your house, Gil. All over the bed every day. But I think he forgot that I have keys to the house he's living in.

Right. So loaded ice mine. I put mine in the freezer. Froze them bad boys. Went over there. Went in. He was sitting on the couch and let them have it. For at least two, three years, his whole back had the warts of those paintballs embedded.

He looked like a leopard when I was done with him. He looked like a leopard. He had to get his back tattooed because of those scars he put on his back. It starts up, you can't finish. Don't play with me like that. Khalil Sports ASMR.

Hey, Arkin Gil, today is my 26th birthday. I'd love to receive a happy birthday from two of you. Also love to see a female co-host on the pod in the future. No, unfortunately, that's not going to happen because what we talk about, we're not going to get canceled. We're not going to change the way we talk to be accommodating. So you'll feel free to get you a get you a co-host to get a female. But that's not going to happen here. I don't want to parse what I'm saying

because we have a conversation and we already know how that's going to end. Oh, I can't believe they said that in front of her. I can't believe they did that instead of her. Happy birthday to you. You get your 26th birthday shout out. But as long as Shannon Sharp is the owner and comprider of Nightcap,

that ain't going to happen, baby. I'm sorry. So that's that. So go ahead, Gil. Give her a birthday. This was the man. It was you just now. Nah, bro.

That ain't going to happen. Gil, we know where this goes. We know where this going. Everything is not meant to have a woman involved. Y'all got, we got to stop this notion. Oh, it'll be so great with a woman. No, noall got, we got to stop this notion. Oh, it'll be so great with a woman. No, no, no, no, no, no.

That's not going to happen here. So if y'all, if females, and I commend females to start their own, I support them. But that's not going to happen on nightcap

because we have two mature, grown conversation. And the first thing, women, well, they talk like that in front of her. I can't believe she let them talk like that when we've been talking like we've been talking for the longest. So I'm sorry. Hey, if y'all want to hear women chime in, we answer as many women questions as we possibly can. But as long, this is ours.

This is Ocho's and mine, but I put this together with him and mine, this is what we're going to do. Now, we had no idea that we're going to, you know, tell the stories that we ended up telling. And when we first told the story, I really didn't know how it was going to be received.

Hell, I'm looking at Ash because hell, she a female, and she dying laughing. I'm like, oh, how female and she dying laughing I'm like oh no how much is she laughing I'm like is anybody she knows me though how is how the women gonna take this so look

bro that's not I'm sorry we're not gonna have we're not hey if someone came to me and said well Shannon I have this great show idea with females. Let me know what you think. Hey, I'll take a look at it.

I'll have my team take a look at it. Maybe we can work something out, but this space, unfortunately guys is just going to be, just going to be male only. Hey, I don't know if your birthday's messed up this year.

There's always next year. Hey, it's Stephanie Warfield. Hey, Shannon McGill, what's your take analysis on the University of Kansas men's basketball program having to vacate 15 of their wins from 2018? Do you think the punishment was fair? Did they win the national championship

in 2018? I don't know. I don't watch baby basketball. I'm like, as long as it ain't a national championship, hell no. I don't care about the win. I don't know why they're taking wins. I already got them. I took $100. What that got to do with

taking wins from me? What does the money have to do with the winning? I don't understand why the colleges do that. It just don't matter. I got a new car does not turn into wins. So you taking the championship, you taking the rings, you taking the wins.

You alone, you don't take this car. What was I doing? If I was cheating in the game to get the wins, makes sense. But what I'm doing outside getting free food, somebody doing my homework,

does not lead to wins. Me getting buckets led to wins. Right. Andrea Jordan. I love the show. I want to ask, what's your favorite hot cereal? Oatmeal, cream of wheat,

farina? Never heard of that. Grits with sugar? See, you done messed it up. Andrea, you effed it up because you're talking about putting sugar on grits. And if you don't put sugar on grits, you put butter and black pepper on

grits. You put cheese on grits. You done messed around and effed up a good ass meal. Talking about putting some sugar on some grits. And I don't know where it's at. But I like, look, it all depends. I mean, I ate oatmeal every day for 27 years. From 1993 until 2020 when the pandemic hit,

I had eaten oatmeal every single day for 27 years. And then when the pandemic hit, I eat it periodically. When I'm at the hotel, I'll order grits. I'm excuse me. I'll order oatmeal. But I grew up eating both. Obviously, being from the South, you eat oatmeal. I mean, we used to eat big, big.

It wasn't like this little thing we made. My grandmother made big, big heaping pots because it was a lot of us. My aunts ate it also. And we put butter and sugar on oatmeal. Man, I couldn't imagine my grandmother watching somebody put some sugar on grits that she made. What?

What's her name, Al? Mary, Mary Porter. The one who just put that... Andrea. Andrea, you must be from California, girl, because I'm sorry, Unc. I done thrown some... Yeah, you from Canada. You from the North.

I done thrown some sugar and some... Hell nah. I put the butter, I put the butter, the cheese, everything. I spit a little sugar in that joint. We put honey on hamburgers out here, man. Yeah, see, and y'all every time you go somewhere, would you like

some avocado toast? Hell no. Did I ask for avocado toast? I do exactly what I want. May I help you? Hey, let me get X, Y, Z. Would you like some avocado toast? I don't remember mentioning avocado toast.. May I help you? Let me get XYZ. Would you like some avocado toast? I don't remember mentioning avocado toast. You thought I forgot that? You thought I came and forgot

what I actually wanted to order as I'm standing to the window. So you want to remind me about some bull jive avocado toast. No, I do not want any avocado toast. She got to be from Cali because only Cali people put sugar on everything. Sugar, spaghetti.

We put sugar on anything, huh? Hey, huh? I will. Hey, huh? I know you know a little bit about everything. We know Gil is into battle rap. We've seen him battle rap super hot fire.

Are you into battle rap? If so, who you liking? You too, Gil. Nah, I ain't into battle rap. You talking about like 8 Mile, that kind of battle rap? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, I ain't really. I don't follow it like that, Gil.

Oh, you don't? No. That's the thing. When you ain't got nothing to do, battle rapping is the thing. That's the, like, when you ain't got nothing to do, battle rapping is the thing. Because it's strategy, right? They got to research their opponent. Right, yeah. Add in to their life.

And then the best part I like about it is they got to try to outpour each other, right? Right. That's the funniest part. Like, the poorer you were, the harder the bar sounds. Yeah. Right, you know what I mean? You was on welfare,

the next person say, I ain't even eat. Like, you will be a great battle rapper with how you grew up. You will be a great battle rapper, like I ain't take a hot shower or I ain't use the bathroom in 18 years. I'm very, I've been very good at live.

People think, people were saying they were in the chat, like when we, Ocho and I, we did the call because, you know, when the kicker missed the field goal and people called him up and gave him death threats on social media. So Ocho and I reenacted it and people actually thought Ocho and I had rehearsed that no I said you know hey somebody come to your job after you mess up and you know blah blah blah he's like okay he picked the phone

ring ring ring okay do that with me and so we we go through this sequence. We have this skit. But I've always, always, and people thought that Skip and I rehearsed. No, I have no idea what Skip's going to say. For the most part, the only time Ocho and I talk is when we do this. I might send him something. Same thing with you and I. I might send him something. He sends me something. But the one thing that I was looking for,

I needed someone to not be able to make fun of themselves. Sometimes people think so much of themselves, they can't make fun of themselves or they take themselves too serious. He and I both can make fun of ourselves

when we have fun with it. But that's the best part about how we do things is to be able to pick up. Okay. I think, I think this would be great here and it works. It works. And that's what you have to have. And I don't believe chemistry is something that you have to work on.

You either have it or you don't. Thanks. You either have it or you don't. And for me, I've always been quick-witted. I've always been able to think on my feet. And you know, me, look,

I went to school, I don't know if you know, Red Grant. We called him Dirty Ray. Red Grant. He was a fullback on our team at Savannah State. Now, we used to have talent shows. He and a guy named Bernard Mack, rest his soul. They were like, we'd have a talent show, and they would get up there

and they'd tell the jokes. They'd have like a five-minute, a 10-minute set, and they were great. But when it comes to just flat-out zoning, I'm going to talk about what you got on. I'm going to talk about your girl. I'm going to talk about your car. I'm going to talk about how you look on I'm going to talk about your girl, I'm going to talk about your car I'm going to talk about how you look wasn't nobody seeing me in Savannah State

wasn't nobody seeing me in Denver wasn't nobody seeing me in Baltimore when it just comes to flat out Joni because if you went to an HBCU and you couldn't Joni you just go fight all the time but I'm talking as Rick, when it comes to Joni

it was me and a dude, his name, we call him, he's a pastor now, Pastor Ford. But me and Big Daddy just sit around. Just sit, hey, and we go at it. When it just comes to flat-out Jonah, and I'm talking about just talking about what you got on, how you look, your car. Ain't nobody seeing me. Your car?

Yeah. Ain't nobody seeing me. Ain't nobody. I'll just give, can you imagine, and I just, they just hear samples of how I go back, but that was every day in Denver's locker, well, probably like when I got to like,

probably like my third, like 93, when I kind of like came into my own as a player, and I wasn't worried about getting cut. From that point on, ask him. Aaron McCaffrey used to sit in my locker and just be laughing. I mean, he'd sit across from me. Rob, oh, we having sessions. I'm talking about, they couldn't see me.

Not with Jonan. Not with Jonan. I can tell jokes, too. I can tell jokes, but I'm talking about just Joni? Mm-hmm. Nah. Yeah, those are the best people in the locker room. The guys who can just clear out a room, talk trash, and just make it laugh.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's my thing there. Who else? Nico asks, what's up, Uncle Gil? I'm 27, messed up with an older woman. Any advice on how to get her back? How much older, Nico? You're 27.

When she's 40, you got to let her go. Oh, man, she done put that meal or she put that thing on you? She done put the old snap on her. Oh, man, she put that snap on her. She got it. It's over. It's over. It's over.

Man, man, hey, man, I had one of them, I had one of them when I was about 19. Man,

I was looking forward to daylight with a flashlight. I couldn't find her, Gil. She had that thing on me, had me in a chokehold, Gil. I've been there. She was doing things them young girls

ain't even heard of yet. And I'm all there for it. Don't you, don't you, I come in the house, I come in the house, Gil, I say, ain't nobody gonna move with me. Don't nobody move with me, Gil. Yes, sir. Oh, man, she had your voice. Man, what?

Man, you could drive an 18-wheel up my nose. She had my nose open so wide. Double bow. That's my nose, right? That guy. She had my nose open so wide. Double bow. That's my nose, right? That guy. She had it open. They know how to get a young boy. I can tell you that.

And then her husband, man. Let me tell you that back. I tell you that back. I wanted to fight him. I wanted to fight him. I wanted to fight the man about his wife. I'm like, hold on. How am I being mad at somebody about that?

Oh, man. But it was her fault. Oh, my God. Nah. Yeah, man. I'm sorry, Nico. But, hey, they hard to get back because they not going to listen. The stuff that you tell them, they've heard it already.

So it's kind of hard to get them back, Nico. Well, I mean, for the most part. She might be the move-down, Nico. Yeah, she probably done. She done probably move-down. For another young man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'mdown, Nico. She probably done moved on. Fox for another young man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, Nico.

Next time you get your O and don't mess it up. It ain't good. You know, they break y'all. They give you a couple of dollars. They kept a couple of dollars in my pocket. Yeah, you know, the old ones, they warm up the towel at the end. They get you the hot, the warm. You know the towel at the end. They get you to hot.

Don't move. That's what I say. Don't nobody move. They lay there. They go in there and get the hot towel, get the suns, wipe you up. Yeah! Them young girls, it's cold. You want something to drink? You thirsty? Yeah. You know what? Give me a coat.

Okay? I'm like, well, damn y'all girls ain't did nothing Nothing You brought me something I showed it I just gave it to you Two minutes ago Just gave it to you two minutes ago I hope you like it

Them older women they take care of you man they do you right they do you right they do you right they looking they looking they looking for somebody

you know mmhmm yeah nigga I'm sorry man you gonna be thinking about this for a while yeah Nico I'm sorry

I'm sorry Nico I'm sorry I hate it for you, boy. I know what you're going through. I feel your pain. I ain't telling you something that I don't know. I'm speaking firsthand. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, look. I'm about 18, 19. She's about 35. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 35, 36. Damn, hold on. No, no. No, no, no.

We just, nah. We gonna write her name down. We gonna call on people on her. Now call up who? Ain't but three people knew about it. Nah, everybody in the chat know about it now it's too late I don't know if she was creepy

or you was creepy both B-O-A-F both that's called like I said like the young girls and I ain't condoning that. Like the high school, the 14-year-olds

messing with the teachers. And these young good-looking... I don't want no teachers to look like that when we was in school, Gil. They ain't looking like that. When I was in school, man, them teachers had them horn-ringed glasses on. They was 62. Oh, my God. Them out-of-shape,

overweight, you know, my thousand pound sister, that was our teachers. Yeah. They ain't trying to kill nobody. They look at the twist your ear and all crap. And I mean, yeah. Damn, man.

I wish that was me. I didn't want you to know if you called the people, I ain't helping with the investigation. I don't know nothing. I ain't helping with no investigation, Gil. Eric Crimms asked, Sheldon and Gil, have y'all had to take your shirt off while y'all were playing on teammate?

What was what? Okay, Sheldon and Gil, y'all have had to take... Oh, hold on. Hold on. Shannon McGill, have y'all had to take a dump while y'all played

or had a teammate almost during the game? Nah. I mean, normally guys like guys like in the game we pee on the guys would pee on the sideline the trainer just come hold a bag we move in front of a piece of equipment and we just pee on the sideline if it was raining

the offensive lineman guy would pee in their pants just go and it's wet you don't know but nah nah hell nah. What's wrong with y'all? Nah. Y'all would just pee on the sideline. I peed on the sideline a number of...

At least 10 times. On the sideline? Yes. You just go in the bag. They just hold the bag and you pee in it. And the crowd get to see? We kneeling down. They don't know.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm saying. But no, no, hell no. No, we just run to the back. We just go to the back. Like most of the people before the games, their nerves kick in. Whatever Red Bull or any drink they took in,

they're about to run through their body. So before the game, they're running in the bathroom. Now, we was in those woods. Obviously, them guys had to go to the bathroom, but they come back with no shirt. They had no toilet paper. They used their shirt. They used their shirt. And they come back and have to work the rest of the day

with no shirt on. But not in the game. Nah. But NBA players bougie. We had players that wouldn't even use the restroom at the facility. But see, that's the kind of players I'm talking about. Yeah, we wouldn't.

See, I can't just go anywhere. Me, personally, I'd rather go in the woods than go in the gym. I'd rather go in the woods than go in the gym. I'd rather go in the woods than go in the airport. You mix with beer? What's wrong with you, man?

Man, nah. Man, I like to be free. I take off all my clothes. I go to the bathroom. I take off everything I got and throw it in the floor. I don't want nothing. I don't want nothing around my ankles. I want to be free.

Oh, man. Yeah, so I'm just like, yeah, I'm blunt naked. Clothes piled up in the floor. Like, we had... Y'all up there laughing. I don't know who... I don't know what... So I'm the only one

that take off all the clothes to go number two in the bathroom. I'm the only one? Yeah, we not six. When we was six years old, we did do the Brooklyn thing. I took off every last thing I got. When we was six, Unc, we did that.

We don't do that as some grown-ass adults, Unc. We try to get... You're trying to get comfortable. We try to get in and get out. But see, here's the thing, though, Gil. That came from when I was growing up. We had to go in the woods. So you had to take

off all your clothes because you didn't want to get none on your clothes. So you took off all your clothes, you put them in front of you, and you went to the bathroom. So as I got, and I got an opportunity to go in the bathroom, I just took all, I just thought that was just a natural progression. I took off all my clothes. So if I go to the bathroom, I take off all my clothes and put them on the floor, and I go to the bathroom, do what I do, put my clothes back on. I take off my shirt, my shorts, everything.

I'll get out of here like this. Let me go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. About to get busy on y'all. Oh, this is where I'm supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah.

I'll take my pay. Come on. By the time you get off your clothes, we done finished and got out of there. This man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, when I first, I had this one,

like, I would like, I would, I don't go to the bathroom. Like if we upstairs, I go downstairs. She's like, where are you going? I'm like, I'm going to get something to eat. And I go to the bathroom. I don't tell her what I'm going to do. But I have my clothes piled up. Hey, I'm comfortable.

Go, come back upstairs. Like, dang, I didn't hear you open the refrigerator. I said, yeah, I just got some cookies or something. Yeah, but nah, nah, nah, nah, not in the game. We ain't got to do no number two, but nah. I see, hey, somebody, am I the only one? I ain't the only one, I ain't the only one. Yeah, yeah, but no, I take up, no. I take up everything. I ain't the only one. I ain't the only one. Yeah.

Yeah, but no, I take up, no. I take up everything. Shoes, socks, shirt. Yeah, I don't got on nothing. I got to be, I got to be, I got to have it all. I got to be free. I got to be comfortable. Hey, that's funny as hell.

I'm not going to lie. That's funny. I'm not being honest. No, I don't fold no clothes. I just pile them up and down. Just throw them right there in the pile and finish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it back on. I got to even gonna lie. No, I don't fold no clothes. I just pile them up and they done. Just throw them right there in the pile and finish. Yeah, yeah. I got it. I got it.

That's funny. Yeah. Anthony Crowley said, older women with kids really take care of you. Fact. Nurturing. They nurturing. You need anything, you know, hey, you, oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Rub your back with, hey, yes, I know hung.

Mm-hmm. See? Man, y'all judging. You know, when y'all in this chat, y'all be judging. Y'all some judging both folks. Man, but I'm weird, man. I'm weird. Man, I'm getting weird.

I know I ain't the only one. I know I ain't the only one. You the only one you the only one no no one person in there it's just you man

well I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm going up I don't need no clothes on I'm in the bathroom by myself anyway. Y'all make it seem like I'm in a community bathroom. No, but look, most

people trying to get in and get out. Are you trying to get comfortable? I got to get comfortable. I got to get comfortable. Yeah. You know, if I really got to go, I'll be kicking stuff off before I get there. How are you supposed to sneak up? Yeah, I'm about to go to I'll be kicking stuff off before I get there. How are you supposed to sneak up? Yeah, I'm about to go to the kitchen and you've been down there 20 minutes.

I come back. Look here. All my homes got enough bathroom. We ain't got to know where everybody going. And then I got to get comfortable with you first. So because at first I'm going to send you on an errand. Oh, I forgot this. I need this.

Can you go get this? I'm going to send you to Target. I'm going to send you on an errand. Oh, I forgot this. I need this. Can you go get this? I'm going to send you to Target. I'm going to send you to Whole Foods. Then, if I get a little comfortable to you, then I'm going to start, you know, like, we got that. You sent me to the store the other day to get that. We still got some of that. Then I go to the guest house.

So I go out back. I'm going to go work out right quick. But you ain't got no workout clothes on. I'm just going to go turn the fan on. I'm going to cut the lights on. I'm going to go work out right quick. But you ain't got no workout clothes on. I'm just going to go, I'm going to go turn the fan on. I'm going to cut the lights on. I'm going to set the weights up. I got a lot. I can't tell you what I'm actually going to do.

So I go get everything situated. Come on back. Did I get, like, I thought you said you was going to work out. I said, nah, I just, I had to get it. I had to get Ashley over here dying. So, yeah. And now had to get it, I had to get Ashley over here to die. So, yeah. And now they know your trick, huh? Yeah, I'll

be comfortable. Y'all laughing, I'll be comfortable. Oh, man. And I got, I keep, I gotta tell you, I keep toilet paper in my car, just in case. Like I said, I'd rather go to the woods. I'd rather go to, oh, I done been to the woods, even when I was in the league. I was going home, man, my stomach... Oh, I done been to the woods. Even when I was in the lead. I was going home.

Man, my stomach started bubbling. I pulled right side of the road in my Mercedes, put them hazards on, got my gun, ran in the woods, dropped the deuce off. So you're saying

if the world went to shit on me, you're going to survive? Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, I go in the woods in a minute. I ain't... Y'all think y'all seen Bigfoot? Nah, it was my fucking... That would be... and you're going to survive. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, I'll go in the woods in a minute. Y'all think y'all seen Bigfoot? Nah, it was motherfucking

Hulk. That would be... Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was in the lead. It would go full side of the road and go to the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah.

Am I the only... Man, you the only one. I guess it's my upbringing yes yes I have baby wives I keep baby wives in my yes yes y'all big nasty big nasty I bet y'all got skid marks like an airplane stopping on the

runway that's how skid marks look at your drones you're nasty yeah you better have baby wipes on you at all times They talking about why I ain't had no socks First of all, I don't even know why I put on shoes Because I'm not going nowhere I put on shoes just to match the outfit So I didn't put on no socks

But why y'all worried about my socks? He don't got clothes on when he doing I'm sorry He don't got clothes on when he doing. I'm sorry. We just about getting judged over here. Yeah, they be judging. Man, y'all judging. I can't tell y'all nothing because y'all be judging me.

Yeah, but I keep baby wipes in my gym bag. I keep baby wipes in every bathroom. There's baby wipes. Yeah. I'll be having... Man. I'm not even out of the house long enough. I'm not even going to lie.

I'll leave that. I'll wake up at 6. I'll leave the house and go to the gym. I'll sit out there until I got to use the restroom and then I'll come back home. But the problem is

I don't understand why I just don't sit here until to use the restroom and then I come back home. But the problem is I don't understand why I just don't sit here until I use the restroom before I go out. Get on the roof, get me a coffee, sit there, then got to use the restroom,

come all the way back home, then go back out. If coffee have the effect, like for me, milk has that effect on me. If I drank some milk, like when I go to the doctor and they say, well, you know, you need to go, you know, you take all this medicine, you're going to be constipated. All I got to do is give you some chocolate milk and an apple. Man, you ought to stop.

Man, I had my hip. Man, you ought to stop. He's like, where are you going? I'm like, I got to go downstairs. I'm hungry. Yeah. Pick up the table. to go downstairs. I'm hungry. Pick up the table. It's hurting.

Just stomach hurting. Man, that medicine came up out of me so quick. I drank me a glass of that chocolate milk. It got me an apple. It was over. I don't know what the apple's for. Oh, the apple peel? Man, I can't eat no apple. What? Man, that can't eat no apple. What?

Man, that's a laxity. Chocolate milk and apple is a laxity to me. Boy, like people say coffee has that effect on them. I don't mess with no apples. If I want to get... They're like, you want... No, I don't eat no apple. I will not eat an apple unless I'm at my house.

Because after about 10 minutes afterwards, I got to go. Oh, that's okay. If I drink chocolate milk in five minutes, all I got to do is drink chocolate milk, start counting. I can set my phone. Five minutes, my stomach starts. Oh, man. Hey.

At least you know how to clean your system. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I already know what's going to, like, do me in. I don't mess with it. Like, I see people, like, eating. They used to have apples on the plane.

I see people. I'm like, oh, no, no. Oh, they be in the Sky Club eating them apples? People like eating. Lately, I used to have apples on the plane. I see people. I'm like, oh, no, no. Oh, they be in the Sky Club eating them apples? I want no part of it. I don't want no part of no apple. I don't mess with no milk. Hey, people be eating.

I see, you know, used to have colds. They have to have cereal on the plane. And people be eating it. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Man, I be tearing the plate. Hey, like I said, I can barely fit the bathroom anyway. I have my head out the bathroom. Blood in there, head out the bathroom.

Everybody be looking, knowing what I'm doing. I'm good. I already know my system, so I don't fool no apple. Man, let me go. I gotta go, man. I gotta go to work in the morning. Oh, yeah. Thank you for watching another episode of Nightcap please make sure you hit that

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