Nightcap - Nightcap - Eagles Beat the Bills in OT, Beyoncé on Blue Ivy's Haters, T.I. Drama

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills in overtime (12:00), the Chiefs handy win over the Raiders (44:00), T.I.’s public feud with his son (52:00), and so much more. #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we want to touch on a lot of games tonight, Ocho. The Ravens beat the Chargers 20-10. Lamar was 18-32, 177, one touchdown. But it was the defense that came up big tonight. The Baltimore Ravens defense forced three first-half turnovers, and the Ravens offense only managed a field goal on those takeaways in the first half. Then Jadavion Clowney got a strip sack in the fourth quarter and then

the offense went three and out. Zay Flowers said, you know what? I'm going to put an end to this. I'm going to the house. 2010 final score. What did you take away from what you saw from the Ravens tonight? Obviously, the Ravens played good football. Good balanced football at that Ravens tonight? Obviously, the Ravens played good football.

Good, balanced football at that. The defense did what they needed to do, and the offense was just, they did just enough to win the game. Obviously, the Chargers have continued to lose very close games. They were in the game towards the end of the game, and the

Ravens took advantage of the opportunity towards the end of the game. As far ass took advantage of the opportunity towards the end of the game. As far as Zay Flowers, the real deal, man. The real deal. He's going to be a superstar in this league. I don't mean to switch teams, but so is Tank Dale. Those two, as rookies, the way they're playing is if they already arrived, they're playing some good football.

Lamar Jackson, he didn't have the numbers that we're used to seeing from him offensively as a quarterback, but he was efficient. Did he have a turnover? No, he didn't have a turnover tonight. He had a clean game, but the defense won that game for the night, but when they needed it, they did. Yeah, the big lineman did

get it back. I think the thing is, Ocho, the way he started the game, I thought he was going to like, oh, man, he was like eight of his first ten passes he hit. I'm like, okay, it's going to be one of those type of games because he is completing around a little over

70% of his passes. So I thought it was going to be one of those games. But you see as the game started to progress, the Chargers says, we're not going to let him sit back. We're going to start beating him up. We're going to bring some pressure. Put a little pressure on him. Yeah. Yeah. They started, Khalil Mack started collapsing the pockets. They started bringing that extra guy to try

to speed him up. But I think the thing is what really saved these guys tonight because the offense, like you said, didn't have it going. They didn't turn the ball over. And if you don't have it going offensively, the last thing you can do is turn the football over. So they did a great job of not turning it over while their defense forced turnovers and kept and held the Chargers high-powered offense to only 10 points.

You know, for whatever—look, when you look at Justin Herbert, you see a physically gifted quarterback. A guy that's about 6'5", 245 pounds. Superior arm talent. Superior arm talent. Superior arm talent. Can make every throw on the field. You see him take off on the run. He got better legs than what you would give him credit for.

But all I know is he's 30 and 31 and 61 starts. That's what he is. I mean, look, we can keep saying, oh, he's this, he's that. At the end of the day, there's a short menu in pro sports. It's wins and losses. And all I know for all that superior talent that he has, arm talent, physical tools, losses are here, wins are there. That's all I know. Yeah, and the thing about it, obviously, too, with him being a superior quarterback, as he's viewed tall, 6'6", all the attributes and being a great quarterback. He also has a supporting cast around him

to be successful. Something about the Chargers, always losing close games. Always losing close games. This is what's going to make or break them as far as being a playoff contender and going home in January. Those close games, the

playoff teams win those. And most of them are by three. Every time they have a close game, they always lose by three or less. Yeah, you don't have to win them all, Ocho, but you need to win more than what you lose. And they seem to be on the short end of those close ball games.

And so that's telling for me, is that I don't see how and I don't advocate for anyone losing his job. But I think Brandon Staley staying in L.A. is definitely going to come to an end at the end of the season. Because if you go back, they lost a lot of games. As you said, 3 points, 7 points. Then you finally make the playoff.

You get a 27-0 lead at half, and you give it all back. And you seemingly haven't recovered from that because you're still losing close ball games. And your defense tonight notwithstanding, I thought your offense put you in harm's way by turning the ball over like they did, is that that defense has been, and that's Brandon Staley's foretake,

that defense has been, and that's Brandon Staley's foretake, that defense has been less than desirable. And considering the talent that they have on that side of the ball, Ocho, they should be a lot better statistically than what they are. Right. Do you think they should give Brandon Staley a little bit more leash,

or do you think it's really his time is up based on the personnel and what he has to use defensively? Obviously, Khalil Mack, Derwin James. Joey B use defensively obviously Khalil Mack Derwin James yeah yeah do you think it's his time you want to start fresh yeah consider considering now look at look at what you got look at this quarterback look they got Keenan Allen they got every they got guys and I understand the big Mike Williams the uh the other receiver he goes down early uh the season. But there's no reason, Ocho. You mean to tell me with that offense, you give me 10

points? That's what you gave me. Yeah, you're right. Mind you, they're playing against arguably the best defense in the league tonight now. Okay, I'll concede that to you. But with that offense, why do you continuously lose these close ball games? And a lot of times, you have the ball in

your hand at the end in order to either tie the game or to win the game. And you still come up short. Right. Okay. You're right. You're right. It's hard to argue the fact.

Very hard to argue the fact. And you look at their defense with the names that I mentioned. Khalil Mack's been a defensive player of the year. Joey Bosa was a rookie of the year. And guys have been a multi, multi-time all pro, multi-time pro bowl players you can't have that when you have that level of talent scattered throughout the entire

team that's just that that won't cut it and so I just don't see how he how he holds on Justin Herbert was 29 of 44 217 one touchdown one interception uh jose cardoza donated 20 and asked oh do you think a better coach can help uh herbert overcome those last minute drives they're all out they all have yeah they go with a guy like that i gotta make you make a quick decision yeah i can't let you sit back there and think about what you and you know okay scan left to right okay right no i can't let you do that oh joe i gotta got to make you make a decision quick. He'll pick your part. And more times than not, Ocho,

if I can speed a guy up, I'm going to make him make a mistake. And that's what I'm trying to do. But it takes courage to do that now. It takes courage to blitz a guy that he has legs.

He can jump out the window and take off and get a first down. And if everybody's back to turn to him, he can run a long ways. He can make every throw. Even if you're hanging on him, Ojo, he can throw a 10, 15, 20 yard out. He can still get the ball out under heavy duress. But I just, something's not clicking yeah something something is going on with this team that says maybe uh a new leadership is what they need yeah i i hate i hate the fact that normally when you have a well-constructed team like this like they do have i hate when things don't work out and obviously and change is needed

obviously not from the front office but from from the coaching perspective and most of the time i say this all the time players get coaches fired but that's not the type of roster that gets the coach fired why they're not clicking and why they're not playing well why they're not winning those close games i will never understand i will never understand. I will never understand. And it's been like that for, what, two years now? Three. Yo, three. Because you remember when he first got there, you know,

he was going for it every fourth down, fourth and two. He's going for it. Oh, yeah, look at that. Oh, he has courage. Okay, that'll bite you in the butt now. You got to play. At the end of the day, you still got to play smart football. You continuously going for it on your own 20, 30, 20 and 30 yard line.

And it's fourth and one. That's not smart football, especially so early in the game. And you fake putting it there at the time and a place for everything. But eventually your looks going to run out. And like I said, I just when I look at this team and I look at the talent that they have, from a Keenan Allen and an Austin Eckler and a Justin Herbert and an Everett and all those guys at the skill position, Ocho, there ain't no way, ain't no way they're supposed to be playing like this.

You're right. You're right. You're right. The funny thing about it is when you have a team constructed like this on both sides of the ball i i would almost say damn near equivalent to somewhat of the 49ers i'm not saying that a 49ers i'm just saying as far as the personnel and comparison on teams they should be playing that type of football or getting the same type of results that the 49ers do yeah with their squad yeah i totally agree with you what probably the game of the day, the Eagles beat the Bills in overtime 37-34. And remember, we talked

about this a couple of weeks ago. That was a phenomenal game. Jalen Hurts, Ocho, he started 4-11 for 33 yards and an interception in the first half. Yeah, horrible. And he rallied. He ends up throwing for 200 yards, three touchdowns in the second half. Yeah, horrible. And he rallied. He ends up throwing for 200 yards,

three touchdowns in the second half. He added another 65 yards rushing and two touchdowns. Now he has 11 multi-touch rush touchdown games in his career, breaking a tie with Cam Newton for the most by a quarterback in the Super Bowl era.

Last week, Josh Allen was caught by NFL Films declaring, I feel like I'm effing back. His statement also came against the Giants, I mean the Jets. Josh Allen now is 0-6 in overtime. He was 29-51, 3-39, two touchdowns and an interception. He also had two scores on the ground and a team-high 81 rushing yards. What was some of you what

was some of your takeaways from this ball game i mean obviously the eagles didn't play well in the first half jalen hirst didn't play well in the first half um the bills i thought the bills were going to come away with this one obviously josh allen being oh and sit well oh and five before the game and ended and obviously looking like they were going to win the game i was not not hoping i'm not going to say i was hoping but josh has been playing extremely bad obviously they play the jets i'm really not counting that win because the jets are a bad team so i'm not going to count that win so i was hoping this would have been good motivation this was would have been a good um what's the word good confidence builder you know for. A good one, especially beating

the Eagles team. Obviously, that is 9-1 or maybe 8-1 at the time. I got my numbers confused, but either way, it would be great for them to finish this game off the right way.

I thought they had it in the bag. I honestly did. I thought they had it in the bag. Obviously, the Eagles, they're going to the playoffs. They're going to the playoffs.

They're going to make a long run. The Bills, I don't know what's going to happen. Obviously, they were 6-5 coming into the game. They haven't to the playoffs. They're going to make a long run. The Bills, I don't know what's going to happen. Obviously, they were 6-5 coming into the game. They haven't been playing well. They've been very up and down all season long. Diggs hasn't been happy.

Josh hasn't been happy. Gabe Davis, not one goddamn target last week against the Jets. Not one target. You know, he had a... He missed it. He had an okay game. Josh missed him today in OT. He had the fourth touchdown.

He came with the bomb. He did. They came to blow it up, and he had him, and he missed him. Yeah. Do we blame Mother Nature a little bit? Do we blame nothing? No. Ocho, did you see the guy kick the 59-yard field goal in that driving rainstorm? Yeah.

Hey. Oh, yeah. And that would have been good. The ball looked like it had been good. It looked like it had been good from 65 to 70. 60, yeah. Because it hit the back of the net. Mm-hmm. That was a good kick. Good okay good a good clutch kick at that yes but now i don't know how they look

we were taught like when somebody comes on the bomb blitz and we're outside we stay outside right if you're inside and they come with the blonde blitz you try to cross the guy's face face yeah okay but in a situation like ocho you can't miss that throw, Ocho. You can't. You can't. Right. Because remember, everybody was up in arms. Oh, if the Bills had got the ball

in overtime against the Chiefs, they'd have won the game. They'd have won the game. Well, they had the opportunity to do that just now. Ta-da! Yeah, they had the opportunity. They had the opportunity.

And I don't like to make excuses, but some, man, playing in that rain, it handicaps you a little bit. It handicaps you catching the ball. It handicaps you throwing the ball and just being efficient as you would if it was dry. I'm not making no excuses. I'm just saying. I'm just taking into account the fact that it was.

Devontae Smith didn't have a hard time catching it. Zaccheaus caught one at the back of the end zone. He didn't have a hard time catching it. That was a nice catch, too, in the back of the end zone. Yeah, that was nice. But the thing is, Ocho, the Bills seem to be in control of this game. And then Josh get fooled by a trap corner. Bradbury rolled up on him.

Come on, bro. You got to see that. You think he could see that though? Yeah, that's a trap. It was so quick. It was so quick. Ocho. I thought, listen, even I had to wait to see the replay,

I thought he was gambling. And then I noticed instead of he was supposed to be, you know, dropping back in the zone. He said, man, F that. Man, he jumped that so quick. Because you know why? Before the formation tell you in a situation like that, what they're going to try to do?

Try to get a cheap five. Yeah. Because guess what that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a a wide receiver on a linebacker so what they're going to do push up run your little stick right yep yep and then they knew it it's like it's damn near like they baited them into that and played trap at the right time they did and and some in a situation like that, you're getting desperate. You got to make it because the last thing you can do is fall. It felt it could go down by another score.

That's the last, especially a touchdown. Yeah, I feel a field goal doesn't doom you. But man, to go down a touchdown, another score there, a touchdown there. That'd have been too much. Yeah, that might have lasting effect. But I said this solo two weeks ago ago i said jalen hurts i've never seen i don't know if i've seen somebody quite like him he can have the most mundane the most mediocre game and they're just flailing around on both sides of the ball right but come

fourth quarter if that game is close he'll find a way to pull it out. Every time. Every time. He's done it. He's done it consistently every time. We just saw it Monday night against the Chiefs. Just flailing around. Ain't nothing going their way. Then all of a sudden, the fourth quarter, the game's closed. And then he makes a play. He believes. I mean, he is just like so calm.

He's the perfect person to play in Philly because he understands how fickle the Philly fans are. They're going to love you. They're going to boo you. He just rides the wave. He don't get too high. He don't get too low. I mean, you know, hey, all the celebrities like, look, I'm supposed to do this. I keep the main thing the main thing.

I don't get high when it's good. I don't get low when it's bad. I just stay even keel and good things happen. That was a phenomenal game. That was a good look. And then, you know, I think they still... Don't they play the Eagles? No, Buffalo. I think, who got... No, no, the Eagles

got San Francisco next week, right? Because the 49ers still got Buffalo, the Eagles, and the Cowboys. Wait, that's primetime, huh? No, no, no, no, no. Eagles have... Okay, the Eagles have the Niners, Cowboys, Seahawks. And the Bills still got...

Don't the Bills have the Niners also? The Bills... Okay, okay. the bill okay okay the bills have cheese cowboys dolphins oh

oh wait that's that's the the next three yeah basically Philly Philly

Philly Philly got Philly got Niners Cowboys Seahawks bills got Chiefs Cowboys Dolphahawks. Bill's got Chiefs, Cowboys, Dolphins.

Boy, it can get ugly. Not for the Eagles. Listen, the Eagles, what? Eagles 10-1 now, right? Yeah. Boy, they sitting pretty. They sitting pretty. Look, if they win these two games against,

I mean, they're the number one seed. No, but you can't catch them. Yeah. Because they will have beaten the Cowboys twice mean, they're the number one seed. No, but you can't catch them. Yeah. Because they will, they will, they will have beaten the Cowboys twice. So they have a two or two. That's like a three old lead right there in the division.

And if they, and if they beat the 49ers, the 49ers will have four losses. And it's a, and it's a conference opponent. Right. So it'll be a bet. Basically it's a death blow for the number one seed.

Anybody trying to catch the number one seed. That means the Eagle will lock that up. I mean, and then I'm looking at the bill schedule, the not the, well, the next three games, I think if they don't improve a show,

some sign of something, if they lose to the dolphins, that's going to be tough. Cause I don't think they lose to the dolphins. That's probably going to end the division. Well, I think they're going to lose it. I'm thinking they're going to lose it.ins, that's going to be tough. Because I don't think the Dolphins are going to lose to them again. That's probably going to end the division. But I think they're going to lose to the... I think they're going to lose to the... They're not going to beat them again.

Because the Dolphins are 8-3, right? If I'm not mistaken, the Dolphins are 8-3. Then you say they got... Who else you say they got? Who else you say they got? Who you... It's about the Bills.

It's about the Bills. The Bills got the Chiefs. The Chiefs. The Chiefs. The Cowboys and the Dolphins. It could get ugly. It could get, they might lose two of the next three. And I think heads gonna roll if that happened. Yeah.

Something, something got to give over there. Well, Sean McDermott wanted to call the plays. Leslie Frazier left. They had a very good, I had an outstanding defense. Leslie Frazier was doing a great job. And, you know, Sean McDermott wanted to take over the play calling. Okay, there it is.

Different ball game, huh? There it is. Take it over, you got it. Defensively, it didn't hurt when Milano went down either. Milano, Tredavious White. White, yeah, White. Bond hasn't gotten back into shape. Bond's a little older now. He's't gotten back into shape. Bond's a little older now. He's coming off an ACL injury.

It's rough. It's tough to be able to get back to what you once were as you start to age. Those injuries start to take it at you once you get to a certain point, Ocho. Yeah. C.J. Stroud. Let me see. Excuse me. Did you see this? CJ Stroud rubbed Texas fans the wrong way when he was on Auxiliary Money Podcast and asked to choose between L.A. women and Houston women. And he said L.A. girls over Houston girls.

And it's not even close. Saying Houston girls are fake bougie. He also complained about the food scene, saying the food has been gassed up here. How do you think he should have handled that? You got to be careful what you say. You're the franchise quarterback, baby. You're going to be in Houston the next, what,

10, 11, 12, 13, 15 years. You got to be careful what you say. You got to hype your people up. Yeah, you got to be careful, but obviously he's from L.A yeah you you you got to be careful but obviously he's he's from la he's from la he's he's just getting to houston he's just getting his feet wet uh and understanding the culture in houston obviously the food is something that people visit and love turkey leg hut to to be exact uh the women in houston i don't frequent houston you know very much but i've i've heard good things about the women. I've heard great things about them. I've really haven't free when I haven't dated anyone from Houston, but, um, you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful when, when,

when you get asked questions like that, you gotta plead the fifth. And if you gotta lie, just lie and say something positive. Do you know what? Hey, I like both places. There are beautiful women in LA. There are beautiful women in LA there are beautiful women in Houston it just all hey what's your flavor what you like because both places got them the cuisine

look LA look LA got restaurants but Houston if you like soul food it's hard for me to believe that there ain't no good soul food places in Houston there are no good barbecue joints in Houston it's hard for me

now maybe that's not his flavor maybe that's not his cuisine maybe he's more of a sushi. I'm sure they have sushi places, but Cali, I mean, look, you're on the water. So, you know, you're going to get the precious

sushi or whatever you want, vegan restaurants or whatever that, you know, hey, whatever it is. But I just think the thing is he's young. He has to understand

that he got to be a politician. When you're the quarterback, you have to be more politician as opposed to being sometimes, hey, you can't always be honest. You can't always give your true feelings on certain things given the position that he's in.

Right. Yeah, he'll understand it. He'll understand it. It's all about being media savvy. He'll learn as he go. Yeah, yeah. That's what you like to do. But the way he playing right now, he can get away with it. Yeah. He can get away with it. Yeah.

So I just think the thing is that that's something that, you know, is his his handlers are good around him and handle him. Say if something like this comes up again, say there are beautiful women all over the world. Hey, I live in a I was born and raised in L.A., obviously. Hey, I'm playing in Houston now. I have a girlfriend or I have someone in my life. So I don't look, but I'm sure there's beautiful women all over the place. And so, you know, you play it like that and you move on. Good to go.

But you start getting on these shows like this that sometimes they walk you into a trap that you didn't really know that you were walking into it'd be harmless too yeah no ill intent cj scribe became the first rookie in league history to record 300 passing yard games in four straight games so he's thrown for at least 300 yards in four straight games led to texas on 11 play 45 yard uh drive late in the fourth quarter to set up a game-time field goal. And Matt Amendola missed it. He missed it, yeah. But Amendola kicked. I mean, that's hard to say he missed it.

I mean, 58 yards. I mean, it wasn't like it was 28 yards. It was 58 yards, and he hit the crossbar, the middle of the crossbar. Crossbar, yeah, and bounced the wrong way. And 58 crossbar, fell fell short clinching the jags seventh win in eight games so that would have really put some pressure if they could have got the game in the overtime and actually won the game oh joe that would have really put some pressure on the jags because they would have taken two games off the jags yeah yeah so uh but i but i

like what i like what i saw uh from from the texans uh i like tank dale i love nico collins noah brown although he didn't have a big game today they have the skill positions around him to be successful yeah give but give uh the jags credit they came in there with a sense of urgency that they knew they could ill afford to lose this game yeah and let them have a sweep over them in the division yeah yeah i i enjoyed it i enjoyed it as well obviously tank dale man is man dude unbelievable obviously i remember watching him and i remember watching him in the senior bowl and seeing the difference in him and everybody else and his ability to create separation and run routes. And I had wondered to myself, you know what?

It looked good against him, but I wonder how it would transition into the NFL and on Sundays. And by God almighty, it has transitioned extremely well. And he's become, obviously, he's become his security blanket. Most of the time as a rookie quarterback, your security blanket is most of the time it's your tight end most of the time it's the time and the fact that him and tank dale have the chemistry and they're excelling this early already it's gonna it's gonna be nice it's gonna be very very nice he has a nice he has a nice little little repertoire receivers around him and the fact of in the fact of the matter he's getting it done without true superstar number one guys. No superstars, dudes that are just hard.

I call them hard hat. Hard hat, go out there and get the job done type receivers. I think in situations like this, when you're dealing with a young quarterback, I think these kind of guys work best with him because he don't have to force the ball to him. You know when you got a true number one, when you got one of them old school number ones,

he gonna get in that rookie's ear. Man, give me that. Hey, bro, give me that rock. And you know, he's going to defer. I see what you mean. You're right. But now he got a Nico Collins. Now he has a Tank Dale.

He has guys that like, okay, I give it to you. I get it to you. Hey, he's open. I gave it to him. Not a situation where, hey, bro, what's up, man? Hey, you know, I I gave it to him. Not a situation where, hey, bro, what's up, man? You know I'm a top dog here.

So I think sometimes, Ocho, in situations like what he is with CJ Stroud, I think having these young guys, I think that works best for him. The Steelers go to Cincinnati, beat your bingo 16-10. It looks like Canada might have been the issue.

The 16 points are nothing to write home about. But this was the Steelers' first game in which they've had 400-plus offensive yards in 58 games. In 44 of those games, Matt Canada was the OC. Kenny Pickett, 24-33, 278 yards. His completion percentage, 72.7%, was well above his previous high of 68 but but i know you saw this deontay johnson yeah and bro you drop a touchdown and then you walk off the ball and the ball is fumbled and you don't do nothing listen well you know you you play you play tight end and i can i can attest

to what deontay did on the third and short what most of the time which many of us as receivers do is we walk off the ball like that and you know normally we engage with the person with their DB in front of us to make sure to see if we got the first or not he didn't engage with anybody and he didn't look he didn't look down to see he didn't do nothing yeah I mean yeah so I can't even take up for him. Just the walking off the ball part, we all do that. We all do that part, especially on third and short.

But not frontside. Yeah, he was frontside. That's how the ball popped out. He was frontside. Remember, he didn't chase. Hold on, wait a minute. I know it's frontside, but I'm just saying it was third and short. Yes,

but I'm saying... Yeah, third and short, normally it's a dive or something in the A-gap and you normally engage with your dude and just see if you get the first or not. No, hell no. He wasn't even paying attention, though. He wasn't even paying attention. I don't know, I guess y'all wasn't no running team. Man, look here,

Mike Shanahan. Man, if Ed and Rod would have walked off the ball. Yeah. First of all, Alex Gibbs with our O-line coach. Man, Alex would have ran out. Because you know back then, they didn't have those cordless, Mike. You know, you had the cords back when you were out playing. Man, Alex would have ran out there

and wrapped that cord around Ed and Rod's neck. Man, hell no. Walking off the ball? Yeah, you got to be locked in. You got to be locked in right there. Especially if you're going to walk off, at least be engaged with the DB and knowing to see if your running back got the first down. If that ball pop out, you want to be right there

to be able to jump on that thing. It's a horrible ocho, and it's a bad look because you complaining about the ball, you dropped the touchdown on the drive before. Right, right. And then you walk off the, okay, walking off the ball is bad enough,

but the ball pop out and you don't even chase, Ocho. Yeah, he ain't see it though. You got to look at, if you look at his body language, look at his eyes, he ain't even look down. He ain't even look down

to see if he had turned walking back to the damn huddle already because he thought the running back was down. Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. He was a little disengaged right there. He was a little disengaged.

You can't, Ocho, because if you think about it, offensively, you're struggling. Yeah. You're struggling. And you want to, you want to show that, okay, the new coordinator,

hey, we need to get the ball to Deontay. Yeah. He busted his butt. You see, he busted his butt. I mean, okay, the new coordinator, hey, we need to get the ball to Deontay. Yeah. He busted his butt. You see, he busted his butt. I mean, how don't, how don't,

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Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike Matt Cannon the problem, you think? Excuse me. Or did they just happen to have a good game against a Bengals team that doesn't have Joe Burrow? Well, Joe Burrow wasn't playing defense. He doesn't play defense.

But we'll find out. It's one game. Maybe this was an anomaly. Let's see moving forward. Can they generate other 400-yard games? Can they generate other wins? Now, they've won with Matt Canada. But, I mean, they were outgained in all of the games in which they won.

And you know you're not going to go very far if you work to make the playoffs. Giving up teams outg gaining you by 100 yards, gaining you by 200 yards. But give them credit. They went on the road against a division opponent, and they found a way to win a ball game. But you have to give them credit for that. The Chiefs offense seems to have gotten back on track,

steamrolling the Raiders. Kansas City got up to a wobbly start, generating 13 yards on their first two drives, starting at a 14-0 hole. Then Mahone boys stepped on the gas. The next three drives by Kansas City, 71 yards, touchdown. 79 yards, touchdown.

75 yards, touchdown. Mahone's finished today 27-34, 298, two touchdowns, zero turnovers. No turnovers. And I think that's why they overcome that deficit that's why they

overcome that deficit that 14 you know we gonna give y'all 14 points we gonna be your 14 and Mahomes gonna show you

how good he really is and we I mean media outlets you know the pundits they always talk about well he doesn't have a true number one

if Travis Kelsey's not playing well he has nobody to throw to or shoot isaiah step rashid is it right yeah rashid rice stepped up but checko man listen somebody must piss them off or something i ain't never seen nobody run the ball that angry since marion barber. Remember Marion Barber? I do. It's like they have the exact same running style like somebody pissed them off. Why are you running angry? Every step is like it's intent and will to hurt,

but ain't nobody in front of you, man. The Chiefs, not even the Chiefs, Mahomes. Man, Mahomes is special, man. Mahomes is special, man. Mahomes is special, man. You see that passing through to Kelsey? On that sell route? No. The placement.

The placement. Unbelievable. The arm angles, man. The movement in the pocket. The poise. Everything about him is immaculate. And down 14, most of the time, you start pressing. You start pressing.

You make mistakes. No mistakes were made. No mistakes were made. And they came back. They win the game. But again, they were playing the Raiders. Yeah. Yeah.

They were playing the Raiders. Can you play a good team like the Cowboys or the Eagles? No, no, no, no, no. And be down by 14 and still think you're just going to overcome it. It's a different ball game. No. And I think the thing is that also

is that you saw he got Kelsey involved. Kelsey opens it up. So now you can scheme the other guys. You can run Rasheed Rice on a shallow cross and he hit his head on the goal post. You can do other things, but you got to get 8-7 involved. You got to get him

involved because he makes it easier. So now everybody's eyes goes towards him, and now these other guys all of a sudden are splintering, and you get them on shallow crosses, you get them on smoke screens and things of that nature. But Kansas City seemed to be on the right track. Like you said, I'm not putting a whole

lot of stock in this because that was the Raiders. But like you tell me, that's the NFL team. Like you said, I'm not putting a whole lot of stock in this because that was the Raiders. But like you tell me, that's the NFL team. That's the top 1%. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right by that. You're right by that. But again, we talk about two times Super Bowl champ Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs

with Andy Reid calling them goddamn plays. They gonna be alright. Oh, Big Red. Big Red. Big Red. The thing is, but you can't turn the ball over. Because if you Big Red. The thing is, but you can't turn the ball over. Because if you get off to slow starts like that, Ocho, you can't turn the ball over. Because now all of a sudden, you're already down 14, and now you let people

steal your possessions. So, I think that was one of the things that I saw that they did a great job of protecting the football. Matt Jones had another rough day, Ocho, throwing two more interceptions in a 10-7 loss to Giants before being benched for Bailey Zappi at the football. Matt Jones had another rough day, Ocho, throwing two more interceptions in a 10-7 loss to the Giants before being benched for Bailey Zappi at the half. Now, Zappi,

it wasn't like Bailey Zappi to play great either. He didn't. But you know what, Ocho? It's time for the Patriots and Matt Jones to part ways. I mean, how many... Go ahead. What they doing, Unc? Like, come on, what we doing? Come on, Bill. What we doing? huh? Like, come on, what we doing? Come on, Bill.

What we doing? Bill O'Brien, what are we doing? Listen, this is a great analogy. This is all that makes sense to me. If you don't like something, just bench him and be done with it. They have benched Mac Jones four times this year. Yes. Do you understand what that has done to his psyche?

Do you understand what that has done to his confidence? He has none at this point. That's like, fellas or ladies in the chat, that's like going back to your ex. Yeah. Four different times and expecting the results

to be different as opposed to how they were before. Yeah, you bring up me four times, it's over. It makes no sense. Yeah. It makes no sense.

You know you don't like him. You have a problem. You have issues with the turnovers. Every time, you've been to them every single time. Like, what are we doing? And not know you don't like him. You have a problem. You have issues with the turnovers. Every time, you've been to them every single time. Like, what are we doing? Yeah. Just stick with Mr. Zappy.

Hold your hope. Not only do you break up with him, I see you dating other guys in the meantime because they brought Bayley Zappy in both times. All four times. So, you break up with me.

I see you. That don't work out with you and him. Now you come back to me. And guess what? I'm foolish enough to take you back. Every time. Listen, that has to...

Just thinking about it to me, I'm not even playing the game. And then I understand what comes with the quarterback position. You're already frustrated. You're not winning. Then they bench you. Then Monday comes, you got practice on Wednesday. They say, okay, now you're the starter again. Yeah. I mean, come

on, man. They got to find a quarterback. I don't know who it's going to be, but they need to find somebody to pick up what Tom left off. And even though those are big shoes to fill, I know what you're going to say. They're big shoes to fill, but they got to find it. They got to find it

because things aren't going to be right until they find a quarterback. Yeah, but Ocho, it's a rarity that you lose Joe Montana and there's Steve Young. You lose a Brett Favre and there's an Aaron Rodgers. Normally, when you lose a historically great quarterback, each year, look how long the Steelers went when they lost Terry Bradshaw.

Right. Oh, okay. It was almost 20 years before they get Big Ben. And, you know, and Buffalo, think about Buffalo had gone 20 plus years before they get Josh Allen. Yeah, from Jim Kelly to Josh Allen.

So you don't normally, so as great as Tom is, unless you have somebody, and it's not like it is, you can't have a Steve Young on your roster now. Right. You can't. Because, first of all, he's going to want to play. Yeah. And he's not going to be content with not playing.

Right. And plus, when Steve was there, there was no free agency. So where was he going to go oh he had no choice but to be there he had no choice but to be there okay

now there's free agency plus I need to look at the guy because I need to know before I invest 300 million because you know we're right around the corner for a 300 million dollar contract because we you know

we 250 right now 260 right the next contract within a year or two is going to be 300 million wait that's the the funny thing about it since. Right. The next contract within a year or two is going to be 300 million. Wait, that's the funny thing about it. Since you talk about the next contract, obviously, it would be a quarterback.

Yeah. Everybody's been paid already. So who would be up next? Tua's up. Okay. But that's a good one. Tua's playing extremely well. But would Tua overlap Joe and Lamar and Patrick Mahomes?

Hey, I'm after. I'm after. That's what y'all do. Y'all told the reason why this guy got more than that guy because he signed

a year after. So I need my money. I'm about to have a 2,000 yard receiver. I'm about to throw for 4,800 almost 5,000 yards.

I'm going to be way high on the touchdown list. Yeah, I'm going to get that. I'm going to ask you one more question. So when Dak is up so'm going to get that I'm going to ask you one more question so when Dak is up so does Dak also get that $300,000

yeah it continues to overlap because that's what they do everybody keeps trying to up it because I want to keep climbing I got to keep pushing these salaries high but normally it's supposed to be just the top the top top top, top guys

being able to reset the market like that. Yeah, it used to be like that, Ocho. It used to be. But now, hey, I just happen to be... See... Timing, timing. Yeah. It's not whether or not you're good.

It's whether or not you're free. It's whether you're free. Right, right, right. And so I got to make a decision, Ocho, so that's why guys and teams, they ain't got no patience. I can't have patience. You mean to tell me I'm supposed to let a guy

and just go, okay, I'm going to have patience and I'm going to give him $300 million after his third year. But I'm not certain, but I'm just going to have patience. No, you can't do that, Ocho. Right, right, right. You can't. You got to open up your pocket. The money is too great now. So teams are not going to have patience. No, you can't do that, Ocho. Right, right, right. You can't. You got to open up your pocketbook. The money is too great now. So teams are not going to have the patience like they did

because I got to know. By the third year, I got to know whether or not the kid can play, Ocho. Yeah. Because I'm going to have the best 300 million in him. Yeah. That's why they always say your third year is your break and make year, regardless of what position you're playing. Especially if you want to, like, by your third year,

if you're a first round pick, you should have been a major pro bowl by now. By your third year, you should be a pro bowl, you should be a borderline all pro player. Mm-hmm.

Because guess what? Now, in today's market, with the contracts, by that third year, everybody wants that new deal, Ocho. Yeah, yeah.

And if you're playing really well, they will tear it up in a heartbeat. Ain't got no problem getting you that. deal, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you're playing really well, they will tear it up in a heartbeat. Ain't got no problem getting you that paper. No problems at all. But it's going to be hard for me to give you paper when you ain't got no All Pros, you ain't got no Pro Bowls on your resume.

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Ocho, we got over 23,000 in live chat. 23,000? 23,000. How y'all doing? Yeah. My baby in there? Yeah, I'm sure real in there. 23,000 23,000 how y'all doing yeah my baby my baby in there

yeah I'm sure real in there Broncos the Broncos have won five in a row knocking off the Browns first time in NFL history we've had a game

which ended 29-12 I think Sean Payton has realized at this point Russ career less is more so you know Russ loved to cook but Sean Payton just let them handle the, Russ' career, less is more. So, you know, Russ loved to cook, but Sean Payton just let them handle the appetizers right now.

Yeah. He said, we will. Because in the four of the last five games, they've topped 125, 120 yards rushing in four of the five games of the win streak. Russ hasn't posted a single game of 300 yards passing game during that span. He's only averaging about 170 yards passing per game. Yeah, I saw that. But, but, but he hasn't thrown an interception.

I think he had a fumble today, right? Didn't he fumble today? I think he fumbled once today. Yeah. Listen, the Broncos, them boys, them boys, them boys done won five straight. Like Russell Wilson say, Bronco Nation, let's ride. Are you ready? Are you ready are you are you ready to get russians are you ready to get russell's flowers now is it yeah he's playing

well he's playing well hey listen now he's not throwing throwing up historic numbers you know we were all fussing about obviously the chemistry between him and sean payton it wasn't what it should be and man forget all that you know jerry jud should be. And, man, forget all that. You know, Jerry, Judy, and Corlin Sutton, man, they're on a five-game win streak. Yeah, I would like to see them get Judy involved more, though, man. I don't know what it is.

What is going on, Ocho? You're a wide receiver. What's going on with Judy? Why is there no connection? Right now, obviously, if you look at the numbers, if you look at the numbers, listen, Russell only threw the ball

22 times today. No, 13 for 22 for 125 yards. So unless you have plays specifically scripted for him, I think Sean Payton has Russell Wilson playing mistake-free football. He's not really wanting to let it go or let it all hang out for that matter. Keep us in contention. Keep us close in the game so we can win these games, which is why I think they have won the last five. I think when he gets a little bit more comfortable and gets back to his old self,

I think that's when we'll start throwing all over the place, all willy-nilly, like I call it, and we'll see the 300, 400-yard, well, not 400, 400 is a little bit much, but 400-yard gain from Wilson again. No, I don't know. I don't know if that's necessarily because when you got Javante Williams,

you got some IJP Ryan, and they're running the ball. They're power backs. So, hey, let's see if we can keep it third and short. Yeah, sometimes I think I wish they could push the ball down the field because everybody's crowned a lion. I mean, a lot of times, Javante is getting the ball. He can't hit in the backfield. I'm like, well, damn.

But this seems to be the recipe in order to make the dish that's palatable for the Broncos to win football games. So, I'm all for that. As long as they win the game, all the other stuff I can do without. Alex Smith calls out Tom Brady for NFL criticism, saying Brady played in the biggest cupcake division.

He said the biggest complaint with Brady comments was Brady played in the most uncompetitive division. You come out of training camp, the biggest cupcake division, you got to take it to the playoffs right away. Like, talk about mediocre. I completely disagree with this. But here's the thing, Ocho.

Two things can be true. Tom Brady played in the most uncompetitive division, the AFC East. Yeah, they were bad. They were bad. They were bad. But when he got to the playoffs, Tom Brady played in three years with the playoff game.

His record is, well, notwithstanding. So let's see, how many games did he win in Tampa? He lost the first year. So he won about four games. So he won about 30 playoff games in New England. Now, he's beating the best in the AFC South, the AFC North and the AFC West. Yeah.

And guess what? When he goes to the Superbowl, he beat the best they got to offer. So Alex Smith, you're absolutely right. Right. That was the most uncompetitive division, but it damn sure they handed him when it came playoff time.

Cause they were kicking ass and taking names for 20 years for 20 years yeah most most definitely most definitely i think what tom was talking about more so to me obviously you was talking about the product the product on the field you know and one of the issues again with what tom was saying is the nfl the competition committee they have handicapped the game so much where you can't even play the type of football that Tom is used to seeing. You can't even play that type of football anymore. I just saw, what running back was that? No, the receiver.

Armond St. Brown. Armond St. Brown, he's fined $43,000. $43,000. I watched the play five times. I still don't know what he's talking about. I watched it five times trying to figure out what in the world did he do wrong? Right. Like, I think there's some type of conspiracy and somebody's parking his some money.

Because the fines that they handing out right now are ridiculous. $43,000 for that, Ocho? Come on, man. $43,000? And you know what I'm not hearing? Are they winning these appeals? Is Merton Haynes still on? Is Merton Haynes still the one? Nah, I think it's

if I had to, I think it's James Thrash and Brooks. Brooksie. For real? D. Brooks. Yeah. I think they handled the appeal. Come on, man. Ain't no way. Something ain't right.

Something ain't right. Something is going on. Something has to go. Now, the big stuff goes to John Runyon. Wait, John Runyon? John Runyon? Yeah, yeah. Used to be the Eagles right tackle.

Yeah. Oh, Lord. Yeah. Yeah, that's $43,000. I think the big stuff. I think the stuff like Kareem Jackson. Yeah, I think stuff like that. I think it goes to him.

I know you saw this. People are upset that Blue Ivy received criticism about her dance moves early this year. But Blue Ivy used it as motivation. Blue Ivy made her first appearance on stage with her mother in May when Beyonce performed in Paris. The 11-year-old became concert staple regularly, showing up to dance with a mother in May when Beyonce performed in Paris. The 11-year-old became concert staple regularly, showing up to dance with a mother's performance, My Power. One

revelation from the premiere of Renaissance, a film by Beyonce, was how Blue Ivy read some social media comments mocking her dance move. Beyonce said she was dismayed when an 11-year-old read the post

criticizing her lackluster moves. But instead of quitting, she decided to put the work in, train even harder for future stops. People are upset about trolls making fun of an 11-year-old, but they're part of the blessing and the curse of being a child of fame. People pay thousands, thousands

of Ocho to see that. So if you let your child, if you open your child up to that, you open your child up to criticism. You know what's funny is, as a parent myself of 85 kids, I like it. I like it.

I like my kids to be open to criticism at an early age. I want you to understand when you get in that real world and your daddy's not there or your mama's not there, this is how life is going to be. Everybody ain't going to like you.

For sure. Everybody ain't going to like you no matter how nice you try to be, whatever it might be. In the case of Blue Ivy, the fact that she said, oh, I'm not worried about what y'all talking about. I'm finna go do what I've seen my mama do.

I love it. I'm finna go work on this. Work. And work and work until I get it right. And what did she do? She got it right. She got better. She was a staple. Every time Beyonce went out there and performed, Blue Ivy was out there hitting that routine. And I know the routine by heart.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you think I know. I know the routine. I ain't going to do the rest of it. I just hit my knuckle on the mic, man. That hurt. That's what you get. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't understand because you have to understand, Ocho,

it's just like anything. When people play large sums of money, people, okay, that's your child. She better be able to do all the moves. You put up in there. That's just the way it is. I mean, I'm being for real. I mean, I know how much, look,

I hadn't been, I went to the old concert and I think, and I ended up paying like, like $8,000 for two seats. God damn. Yes. And I'm sure there were more this time around. Right. And so when people pay that enormous sum of money, you and you put see, if you put your kids in that situation, you subject them to the same criticism that you will receive. Right. Right. Because they're looking at it like okay she in there oh she must be could do it she must be no this ain't no ymca now these ain't oh joe these ain't no seven no five and six year old right that you know they'd be all being in the ah that's my little angel isn't that cute oh hell no are you but you mean you won't get you you're not gonna

get that type of treatment from the real world anyway. No. If you ain't on point, oh, you know, they ain't going to spare you no grace now. Right. Not us. Our people? Right. No, they ain't going to spare you no grace. But again, the fact that she's able to do what she did at such a young age,

obviously, you know who her parents are. Yes. Her parents are two perfectionists. In order to get to perfection, you know what it took to get there. So the fact that she has that already at 11 years old, oh man, you ain't looking,

you looking at greatness now. Oh, Joe. Well, that's a call though. Because you got Jay-Z as your dad, you have Beyonce as your mom. The level of expectation has greatly increased just because of who your parents are.

Oh, yeah. When your mother can dance, well, you ought to be able to do it like she do yeah that's yeah it's just like when parents of uh uh uh or professional you know his dad played this and his mom did that they automatically expect the child to be great at it right right but you gotta do what it is you gotta work you gotta work because there's no substitute for you think jay-z obviously he worked at it beyonce didn't come out the womb knowing how to do what she does she worked on her craft continuously continuously and now what you what you see now is greatness one of the greatest of all time yes for sure so i understand both sides understand but she's just a child

but when you i mean people don't not look and most people aren't going to have in a situation like that, not going to have their child up there dancing. Yeah. If the child's not on point because you subject the child to criticism that would be bestowed an adult

because you put them in an adult role. Right, right. That's my take. I like it. I'm sure people don't disagree. Check this out, Ocho. King Harris, T.I.'s son. Right, right. That's my take. I like it. I'm sure people don't disagree. Check this out, Ocho. King Harris, T.I.'s son,

fights with his parents on IG Live. A live stream at the Falcons game this afternoon went sideways after King started arguing with his parents.

At one point, T.I. could be heard yelling, you're an embarrassment to your family. You're an embarrassment. Later, King posted, I could be heard yelling, you're an embarrassment to your family. You're an embarrassment. Later, King posted, I stand on business. I don't give a F who you are. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, King, King, King, King, man, is up and stuck. He whatever, he's standing on business. You know what it is. King like that. I mean, that's what the streets told me. They told me King don't don't king don't even play he ain't the one all that all i get that fine and good but the bible say honor thy mother and thy father and your days will be long long but wait a minute wait a minute

was king raised by his mother and father was king raised by his grandmother? Because I'm kind of confused. I'm kind of confused. He said, he said, and I read this, where he said he was raised by his grandmother and when they shot the show he would come over there for the show. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, maybe they had some type of special arrangement.

Everybody's living arrangement is different. Ocho, I was raised by my grandmother and grandfather. My grandma raised me too. I ain't going to be disrespectful to my parents. Oh, no, not my mama. They gave you life. Well, you know Hurricane Paula?

No, man. Come on, bro. I mean, clearly, they love you. You've done things and they bailed you out. They've been there. And I understand that's what a parent's supposed to do. But, bro, this disrespect. Yeah. they love you you've done things and they bailed you out they've been there yeah and i understand that's what a parent's supposed to do but bro this disrespect yeah i mean about that listen i know i know you're not about it obviously on you you you are raising a different time you know

your grandma ain't played at your mom ain't played at uh i know i know tip very well i know tiny very well obviously they don't play that play that either but i think king we don't know what he's going through we don't know what he's going through he you know it might be more than beneath the surface that we don't know you know there might be some things circulating as a as a child as a teenager wait is he a teenager yet he is a teenager right yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah as a teenager some other things going on because that that rage in that anger that would display where that camera was rolling that's more than just an argument that's more than just me being upset it's more to it than that and I can I can tell so I I don't agree

with it I don't agree with it but as a child there's something else going on where chip got to sit him down and talk to him, man. Father the son, because it's deeper than whatever he was angry about. Sometimes there have been times that I knew that my grandmother was wrong.

For real? I just eat it. But grandma ain't never wrong, man. I just eat it. I just eat it. Right. You just eat it. Yeah. It's okay. Right. Because I know in the long run what she's trying to do. Yes, sir.

And I never felt that my grandmother punished me unnecessarily. And I always kept that in the back of my mind. Right. It was always a long game that she was trying to play. Shannon, when you go out in the real world I want you to be like I said because I tell people that's all the time the problem she was was what we became outside of football the men the people that we were the way we conducted ourselves right and at the end of the day I am am a representative. I am a representation of Barney and Mary Porter.

I'm also a representation of my mom, Mary Alice Dixon. So I always remember that. That always stuck with me. And my dad also. You know, I named my son after my dad. Because I only saw my dad once

in my life to know who he was. And so I remember we were having a at my life to know who he was. And so I remember we were at my grandmother's house. This was like early, like 1981, early. And he was going to come home. Now, mind you, my dad had cancer.

And so he had it remission, but it came back, Ocho. But this time he had oral cancer. So he had to have both of his jawbones removed. So he was going to come home. My grandma, her name was Minnie, but they called her Charlie. He called her Charlie. We called her

Grandma Charlie. And he said, Charlie. And she was telling him, say, Pete. That's what they called him, Pete. His name was Wynton. They called him Pete. She said, Pete, come on home. Them kids want to see you. He didn't want to come home because he didn't want us to see him like that. Remember, he had had both of his jawbones removed. And the last time we saw him, I was probably in kindergarten, first grade. So here I'm about to be 13. So it's been a long time and he says i don't want the kids to see me like this

so she say she say pete them kids gonna love you they just want to see their dad he said you know what charlie i'm gonna come home i'm gonna see him and he died before it happened so i always remember that and from that point on there was no more disagreeing with my mom no more arguing because life was too short yeah it wasn't so for what because I really sincerely always believed that my grandmother my grandfather my mother they always had my best interest in mind even though I couldn't see it at the time. And when you young, you don't because you want what you want. You want to do what you want to do

and you want to do it how you want to do it. Yeah, that's right. And that's what the young generation, that's what, there's a lot. Sometimes I see how these kids, and even when I'm in Target or Whole Foods or someplace, and I see the way kids talk,

I'm like, really? Well, it's different now, now. Well, you can't... Listen, one thing about it. You know the rules that are set in place right now. They'll call child service on you so quick,

you'll lose your kids. You can't discipline like... No, no, no, no, no. Like they used to discipline us back then? No, no, no. Back in the 80s? No. Man, shh.

You won't have a child no more? No. You can't even... I saw something on Twitter today about kids that are misbehaving. They said that you need to teach your kids to listen because they're not born knowing how to because listening is a skill.

And I never heard it quite put like that before. And it made so much sense because they would tell us to do something and we'd do the complete opposite. And what do they do to us to make sure and we'd do the complete opposite. And what do they do to us to make sure we don't do it again? Man, go get that switch. Go get that switch off that tree real quick.

Yeah, yeah. Or pick up the first thing they can find and hit you with it. And that is the way to get us to listen when they tell us to do something. I think the biggest thing is, Ocho, is that people listen to respond instead of listen to understand.

Damn, ooh, that's a good one. My grandfather. Wait, wait, wait. Let me write that down. Write it down. Gotta write that down. I need that one. I gotta use that with my girl when we fighting. Ocho, I remember I was little

and it used to break my heart when my grandfather would yell at me and I would start crying. And my grandmother would always say Barney, he's just a little fella. Don't yell at him. He would say, Mary, I can only tell him something once because living on a farm and being around machinery and being around these animals, I can't tell him a second time because it might kill him or he might get seriously injured.

So I have to make sure he understands the first time. Right. So. That's kind of how I am with my kids, I would talk to him in such a way and I understand and they understand now, but they didn't understand that kind of like I didn't understand. But now, as you got older, my kids know everything that I was saying to them was about the long game. And so that's how,

and King doesn't understand because we don't think our parents know anything. Like, you don't know what I'm going through. It is different. Social media is a different animal than anything that you,

I, our parents, our grandparents never experienced anything like social media. But that doesn't give you an excuse to be disrespectful to your parents. But the thing is, Ocho, when we grew up, the community raised us. Oh, yeah. You doing something bad? Miss Martha, Miss Margie, somebody. Hey, boy. Hey, ain't you ain't you married, boy? Yeah. Yes, yeah. You doing something bad? Miss Martha, Miss Margie, somebody, hey, boy, ain't you married, boy?

Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Don't make me tell you you're down here misbehaving. Yes, ma'am. Not even that. Not even that.

The people, I call it the village. The village knows if you do something wrong, the village is allowed to spank you. For sure. And then,

when you get home and they tell your parents what you did, then your parents spank you. For sure. And then when you get home and they tell your parents what you did, then your parents spank you too. So you're getting double whammy. Double, double. Boy, I remember one time in church, I never forget. One time in church,

I'm in Sunday school and I had a dollar and I wanted to get some from the soda machine. I wanted to get some from the soda machine and I asked the lady at the time in church. I wanted to get some from the soda machine. And I asked the lady at the time in church, I said, can't remember her name,

sister, whatever it might've been. You know, do you have change for the, I had a dollar bill. Do you have change for a dollar? She said, no, I don't. I don't have change for a dollar, but if I can find 50 cents, I give you half of whatever it might have been. It was something like that. And I ended up, I ended up taking a dollar and cutting it in half with scissors,

with scissors, trying to be funny. Talk about something. Here you go, half right here. Something. I can't remember the story. I just remember getting my ass whooped once in church

for cutting that money in half. And then once my grandma came to church for service at 11 o' and then once once my grandma came to church for service at 11 o'clock i got my ass whooped again then i had to get home and my granddaddy my granddaddy didn't rule me out three times because i'm playing around like i don't know what man i oh man i got so many good stories man yeah but but that's that's the thing, though, Ocho. Like I said, I think the, they, but I would learn. I mean, I was, me and my brother, my grandfather would always say, I remember one night, this had to be 75, 76. Like I said, my brother, my brother, my grandfather slept in the bed and me and my grandmother slept in the bed. And I remember one night he said this so vividly.

He said, Mary, I'm going to, I'll probably be dead and grown, but them two boys going to make something. He said, they so smart. They listen.

He said, they listen to everything. He said, he said, they listen to everything. And he was talking about that little one. That was me. He said,

I little wouldn't know enough to be dangerous. Because I could repeat. He could say something, I could repeat it. Just like that. Because, you know, back then, Ocho, you know, nobody had no cell phone. So my grandfather, he said, hey. Somebody, he was like, okay, Barney, you know what my number is? He said, tell it to the boys.

So they would tell me and my brother the number. So when we got home, now we might be gone for another hour or two. When we get home, he would say, hey, boys, what's such and such number? You still remember? Like, forgetting it wasn't an option. Right, right, right, right, right. There was only one way to do things. That was his way.

And like I said, and that's why I'm so hard. Ocho, mistakes were not acceptable. He didn't make excuses. And that's why he's like, man, you don't. Ocho, I was the youngest cousin. It was five boys, me, Lanny, my brother Spanky, Eugene, and Arnie. I'm the youngest by two years. So they throwing at waltzes.

So my cousin Eugene hit the waltz nest, rest his soul. He passed away about 45 years ago. He hit the waltz nest. They come down, light me up. I close. They done stung me in the back of my head. I got a pump out of the back of my head. Why didn't you run? I did run. So

you know what I did? I ran home and told Papa. I said, Papa, I was crying. I done closed those little tears coming out of the eye with your lips, whoa, got stinging in the butt. I said, Papa, they were throwing at them waltzes, and they came out and they stung me. He looked at me. He said, you should have run.

I said, Papa, I did run. He said, you should have run fast. No excuses. Right. You could never bring that man an excuse home because he wasn't going to accept it. Right. And from that point,

anybody that's ever been around me, don't make no excuses. Right. Either you did or you didn't. It's really that simple. Yeah. No gray area. None.

Yeah. None. Parenting is completely different, especially in this day and age, obviously with social media, things are different. The kids are our kids, you know, obviously with me being a father of 85, our kids are exposed to a lot more, a lot faster than we were. And you just, you got to maneuver different as a parent. You got to maneuver different as a parent you got to maneuver different as a parent so you do it's unfortunate um obviously again back back to the topic at hand uh on on king and um the disrespect of of of ti and then tiny i think it's deeper i think it's much deeper than what we saw obviously the disrespect isn't isn't right you you really can't do that and obviously ti repeatedly saying you're embarrassing your family and embarrassing yourself. You know, I understood where T.I. was coming from. But also as a child, I can empathize, sympathize with King, especially in his day and age with the jokes and people making fun of him online. And some of the things that people have said to him, you know, after doing my homework, knowing that we were going to talk about this topic, that he can be a little frustrated with some of that stuff and it can get to you. And I think

he was at wit's end and that that's what we saw. I think that's why I said that social media. Yeah. I think it was a little deeper. That's why I said that. If, if, if, if social media make you to break you. Yeah. Yeah. That, that, that, that it can. And you're looking, you, you, you looking for P you looking for assurances and reassurances and guidance. Validation. Validation.

Yeah. And it's not going to work. I just, hopefully he, for me, you know, I just hope that they can one day sit down and have an open and honest conversation and move in a positive manner.

Ocho, I don't know if you saw this, but I want to, there was two professors and they asked their college class, they said, we're going to give you two options. We got you, you're looking for a job, right? Oh, they said, we got two options. Option eight, you make a hundred thousand, but all of your coworkers are going to make 200,000. That's option eight. You make $100,000, all your co-workers make $200,000. Option B, you make $50,000, your co-workers make $25,000.

50% chose option B. And what they deduced, people don't want better for themselves. They actively want people to do worse than them. Let that sink in, Ocho. Yeah. They were willing to take $50,000 less as long as somebody was worse off than them.

I could care less. I'm going option A. I'm going option A come hell or high water. I don't care what's going on because one thing about it, I will say it and I will say it this time

this time and time again. People that are watching me, you will never be able to enjoy what's on your plate as long as you looking and trying to take off somebody else's. Yes. Every time. Just focus on your plate. Focus on your plate. Focus on the food you got going on. Whatever money you got coming in, find a way to make more money.

You always got to lock on to your own. And one of the things I always say is when people always know how much other people making, that means you ain't making enough. You ain't making enough. It ain't got to be nothing big. Even if it's coming in small increments, just focus on your own plate, man.

Yeah. He said, well, we found out that people actually care more about others than they do themselves. And you know what irks me? When people,

I hear people say they don't deserve. Who are you to say God made a mistake in blessing me? Somebody else. I didn't get what, I don't get what I deserve.

I got what I earned. Yeah. You got what you earned. What does deserve have to do anything with my hard work? Yeah. And people are just like, what's for you?

Whatever God has intended for you. I don't care. I don't care how many stumbling blocks, how many roadblocks, how many obstructions someone tried to place. It ain't going to do nothing. God will make sure you arrive at that destination and get all of your blessings. Every time. Every time. I don't concern myself because the way I look at Ocho, me and his business, when I saw Charles Barkley could be himself, could talk with the dialect that he had, was unapologetically not afraid to make fun

of himself, I said, I could do that. I said, I got just a good sense of humor. I can tell stories. I said, I can do that. I'm not, man, why Charles Barkley get all that? I see Michael Strahan on Good Morning America. I see Stephen A doing what he, I said, I can do that. I said, Stephen

A went to an HBCU like me. Michael Strahan went to an HBCU like me. I said, I can do that. I just want A. went to an HBCU like me. Marcus Strahan went to an HBCU like me. I said, I can do that. Yeah. I just want somebody to give me an opportunity to present. Be prepared when the opportunity presents itself. Yeah. So I don't get jealous of somebody.

Man, such and such making $100 million. Okay. He did it. Well, if he made it, that means somebody else can make it. I can make it too. I see people that are making more than me or I see people that are doing well. I see that as motivation. That is inspiring.

I'm from Miami. I'm from Liberty City. You know what's motivating to me? It's very motivating to me, even though we're in two completely different lanes and we live two completely different lifestyles. To see Rick Ross, man. Yes. To know where Rick Ross came from back when we were shorties, when he was at Carroll City.

To see what he's done with life and business, entrepreneurship. Oh, that shit is inspiring, man. That shit is inspiring. I ain't really never even said this before. I'm just saying, I look at that

and it just make me want to do more. Not do more to do the things that he does because I will never ever reach that level. You know? I will never reach that level. No, only positive. Why not? I mean...

He did it. But listen, you know, I ain't... So if he did it, that means you could do it. I'm just saying. I don't maneuver that way. I'm not a private jet when I'm having, you know, two, 300 cars. He don't have to do that.

That's what he wants to do. Well, why can't you accumulate that and say, you know what, I'm still going to fly what I fly. Right. That's where the motivation and inspiration part come from. You know? I just thought that shit is beautiful to see, man.

Sometimes I can wake up in the morning, bro, and I just go to the page and just look at it. Like, that's just, that's raw. And it just made me want to get up and just get up

and just do something. Like, I need more jobs. Well, that's, my greatest motivation was my role model who lived in the house with me. My brother went to the University of South Carolina.

When he went to the NFL, he's like, I said, he ate the same food I ate. I said, he ate possum and raccoon and turtle. I said, he went to the NFL. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on back. Come on back to me now.

Ate turtle? Yeah. Alligator turtle, snapping turtle. Yeah. Oh, Joe. back to me now a turtle yeah alligator turtle snapping turtle yeah oh joe and so when i saw him do that every every car my brother got i got the same car yeah same color the only difference was when he got a ferrari he got a red one i got a black one he got a white benz i got a white Benz. I got a white Benz. Yeah. Every car. We had the exact same car. He had an S 500.

I got an S 500. He had an SL. I got an SL. He got a Ferrari. I got a Ferrari. Yeah. I think that was my, that was,

that was my motivation. He could do that. Oh yeah. And when I see Ross and I see these Snoop dogs, another one. Oh, I know Snoop boy. I can pick up theop dogs, another one. I know Snoop. Boy. I can pick up the phone and call Snoop.

I see Snoop. He went from gang banging and this and that. He's one of the he has one of the highest Q ratings of anybody. Listen, the ultimate rebrand. Ultimate. And this is good. This is good also for the people, the people in the chat, the people

that are watching. You always use it doesn't even have to be celebrities it don't even have to be celebrity yeah just just little stuff man always using other people as motivation and not hating on them not not hating everybody always hating everybody always pocket watching or why he do this or why yeah yeah yeah that should motivate you to want to do whatever it is and your respective craft it just i don't know man yes i i i use love stuff like that just to keep me going just to keep me going look let's look take little bits and pieces from from other people man that is inspiring oh sure i look at it like this i don't need a lot of love i just need love from the people that i love i don't need a lot of love. I just need love from the people that I love. I don't need the world to love me. I remember my grandma used to say, boy, you don't need anybody to pat you on the back. You got two good job. That's good enough for me. Everybody's not going to be happy

with the way I talk, the way I dress, what I say. Hey, I criticize this. Somebody's going to be upset. I talk about this person. Well, I didn't talk about that person long enough.

Well, you said this about Josh Allen, but you didn't say this about Lamar Jackson. You said this about Dak Prescott. You didn't say this about Patrick Mahomes. Bro, you can't please everybody, nor should you attempt to. Yeah.

The hardest job in the world is to try to please 8 billion people. But you'll never be happy. See? You'll never ever be happy. Exactly. Never ever. And so, yeah, when I see guys, I see a Ross, and I see a Snoop Dogg, or I see people in my profession,

Stephen A., and I see how hard he works, and I see Stray, and I see a Ross and I see a Snoop Dogg or I see people in my profession, Stephen A., and I see how hard he works and I see Stray and I see how hard he works and I see Charles Barkley and I see Shaq. Man, I'm like, man, I can do that. I see Charles Barkley from Alabama. I'm from rural South Georgia. Shaq grew up in San Antonio. He was a

military kid, moved a lot of different places. When he talks about what he say places. But when he talks about, when he say Sarge, he talks about his father, Sarge, discipline, structure. Yeah. You see?

Yeah. You know, it's funny. I like that you just said that, that two of the most important things that I didn't have growing up, two of the most important things I didn't have growing up, that grandma always instilled in me, my grandfather always tried to instill in me, but I constantly, my structure and discipline, I didn't have it in life.

I had it on the field. I had it in, I had it in the area where it didn't matter. It took, it took the man, it took the man. Okay. You're not listening. Okay. Okay. Obviously he's not seeing the motherfucking science.

Oh, you're still doing that, huh? Okay. You know what? Let me sit you, let me sit your black ass down real quick. Let me sit you, let me sit you down real quick. Let me take some of this stuff from you so you can, you can understand you ain't moving right. Nah, back on track. The structure and the discipline is in place. The foundation that I need is in place, you know. And without a foundation, shit, what you going to grow? What you going to grow if your foundation ain't solid? No, no, no, you can't.

And if there's nothing that can stand if the foundation isn't solid. At all. And even if you build a solid foundation on leaky ground, on shaky ground,

it still will succumb. Oh, yeah. At some point. Every time. Yeah. Every time. And if you ain't got no structure and discipline, Oh, yeah. At some point. Every time. Yeah. Every time. And if you ain't got no structure and discipline,

you bound to fall at some point. Yeah. First of all, without discipline, you'll probably quit and you're not going to be focused.

Yeah. Because people like, what's discipline? I said it requires you to do your best when no one's watching. Or how about this? How about all them

New Year's resolutions? Everybody in the chat, all them New Year's resolutions you had in January? Is you still doing them now? How about all them New Year's resolutions? Everybody in the chat, all them New Year's resolutions you had in January? Is you still doing them now? How many you stuck with? Don't lie, you know. It's hard for anybody to ascend

to a certain level. Forget, I'm not just talking about, I'm not talking about sports. I'm not talking about celebrity fame. I'm talking about it's hard to ascend to any level of success without discipline. It's hard, Ocho. Yeah. Without structure.

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Oh, joke. Hey! Who are your top four teams that will make college football finals and do you see caleb williams being the number one draft pick well no matter what happens on saturday uh alabama alabama georgia will be in the college football playoffs yeah no matter what happens they can lose 100 to nothing. They're going. I believe Michigan is going to beat Iowa. So they'll be there. There are two. The three seed

will Florida State beat Louisville. That's going to be interesting because I believe if Louisville were to beat Florida State, I don't believe Florida State is going to go with one loss

because they lost their quarterback, Jordan Travis. Now it comes down, okay, Oregon and Washington, right? Yeah, I would say Washington. They play each other? Yeah, I would have put Washington at three.

Because I think Ohio State's at five, right? Or six. Washington beat Oregon. So who do they play for the Pac-12 title? Okay. So the question is, Ocho. Top four.

Excuse me. If Oregon beats Washington, Washington beat them early, I think you have to take Oregon, but then Washington says, well, we beat them. So we got one loss. I think the unknown, let's just say

for the sake of argument, if Alabama beats Georgia, does Alabama jump someone? But we know that's not going to happen. Alabama is squeezing out lucky wins, Hail Marys, you know,

by the grace of God, the football gods blessing them, they're not beating Georgia. You thought that with Bryce Young, when Bryce Young went down there and beat them. You remember when Bryce Young beat them? That was a much better Alabama team, offensively and defensively.

But they think they're a little different now. I think when it's all said and done, I think it'll be Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Oregon. Nah, Washington. Oregon, Washington

already beat Oregon. Yeah, but they played for the Pac-12 title. And they're going to beat them again. It's easy if Washington beats them again. It's a foregone conclusion. They're undefeated And they're going to beat them again. It's easy if Washington beats them again. It's a foregone conclusion. They're undefeated. They're going to beat them again. They're going to beat them again. There's too much firepower over there.

Bo Nix playing though, man. Yeah, Bo Nix playing, but the Huskies, they special. They special. So I'm going to go Georgia, Michigan, Michigan, They special. They special. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go Alabama. I'm going to go Georgia, Michigan.

I'm going to take the Ducks. I'm going to take the Ducks. I'm going to take the Ducks. Who your number four then? Don't say Alabama. Where is Ohio State? Florida State. But here's the thing.

I think Louisville is going to beat Florida State. But here's the thing. I think Louisville gonna beat Florida State. What? Hold on, let me plug my computer up. I'm in the red. Because they play for the championship, right? ACC. Hmm.

Well, here's the thing, Ojo. Will the committee take a one loss team over an undefeated team in the college football playoff you know what now we look

the committee the committee got all kind of crazy rules Georgia I think Georgia and Michigan is going regardless right oh yeah

most definitely most definitely because I think from start to finish, they've been the two most dominant teams. Mm-hmm. But if Florida State loses and say, well, obviously, if Washington beats Oregon, Oregon, that's two losses, they're done.

Washington's in. So now Ohio State has one loss. Texas. Texas. Texas plays Oklahoma State. What happens to Boca? See, I don't think with two losses, I don't think anybody, they didn't take Alabama last year with two losses.

So I don't think any two loss team is going to make it. Nope. You know what? I'm just going to say pie in the sky. I'm going to say Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Oregon. I'm going Bama. I'm going to say Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Oregon. I'm going Bama. I'm going Bama.

Roll Tide. I hate to say it, but I'm going to say Roll Tide. All right. Roll Tide. Unculture J donated $10. Hey, Unc, I was in Savannah this weekend. I ate at Carrie here. You're just curious. When was the last time you ate at Carrie?iard? Ate there.

Three weeks ago. Three weeks ago. When I was in Savannah, we went there. And we got it to go. I got the fried chicken. White meat. Fries. I don't know what Jordan got.

He got some fish. Something fish. He always get some fish. Thinking of people causes. What's the name of it? Carrie Hill. Okay. Okay.

Oh, be swinging to it with nice. Jacob donated $20 and ask, Oh, use your third blessing to slide in the dark. But here's the thing. As a sniper, when a sniper shoots, nobody hears it. Nobody

knows it. Just target down. Just target down, Ocho. Go ahead and talk, man. I ain't gonna say nothing. I like that one. I can aim. I got it. Matter of fact, hold on. But I could not fire. Let me write that one down right there, Brian.

Yeah, when a sniper shoot, nobody. Yeah, I'm stealing all them. Vincent R. donated $10 and asked, Uncle Nocho, who do you believe are your top five greatest boxers of all time? And love your show. Looking forward to it every day. Top five all time. Hey, Ali.

Okay. Floyd, Mike Tyson. Boy, there's so many greats, man. There's a squeeze in that five, boy. There's so many greats. Sugar Ray Robinson would be at the top. There's a squeeze in that five, boy. There's so many greats. Sugar Ray Robinson would be, would be at the top.

That's your one? Yeah. Ooh, that's a good one. I think Armstrong. I mean, because... And it, it might be preference too

based on who you like. It is. Because there's so many... And who you saw. Yeah. And who you saw. It is. Because there's so many... And who you saw. Yeah. And who you saw. Because, you know, I saw a prime Roy Jones

and I thought he was the greatest boxer I'd ever seen. I saw prime Sweet Pea. Sweet Pea Whitaker. I don't know if you remember Sweet Pea. Yeah, of course. Of course.

Best defense. Yeah. He was Floyd with defense before Floyd. Yeah. He was Floyd with defense before Floyd. The Brown Bomber, Joe Lewis. But you know, back in the old days, Ocho, these guys would fight 10 times, 12 times a year. Guys were having 180 fights in a career. It's different now.

Yeah. I only named three. I said Floyd, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson. I need two more. I'm trying to think. It's so many good ones, man.

The squeezing of that five. Sugar Ray Robinson is top five for me. Yeah. Joe Lewis is top five for me. I'll put Floyd in there. 50-0 and the amount of champions

that he did beat. I think that goes... Ali had the biggest impact. But you know, a lot of times getting in is the easy part. It's getting out, that's the hard part.

Hard part, yeah. And sometimes these boxes we see they should have left and it kind of kind of ruins the image that we have of them yeah um man that's a good one it is i mean because you know all you hear stories about Jack Johnson um yeah some of the I wasn't able to watch some of the people you name fight obviously they were great ones

during their time during their era I caught I've seen enough of Muhammad Ali I've seen enough of Floyd I've seen enough of Mike um yeah I mean you know Marvin Hagler Muhammad Ali. I've seen enough of, I've seen enough of Floyd. I've seen enough of Mike. Um, yeah.

I mean, you know, Marvin Hagler, um, you know, I came up in the eighties with the four horsemen. Listen, sugar Ray Leonard. Yeah.

No, Tommy Hearns. I thought it's, that's, that's hard, man. You got Lennox Lewis. I mean,

you got so many, so many greats. Yeah. It's kind of hard to just like rank the boxers you probably have to put them in you probably have to put them in a in a category of weight class right the five best heavyweights the five best you know welterweights middleweight you know flyweights because it's just it's too hard to arrange it's like okay because it's just it's just hard it's not like basketball you know i'm saying you could just rank basketball you know you know football is a little hard because it's just hard. It's not like basketball.

You know what I'm saying? You can just rank basketball. You know, football is a little hard because like, okay, because you kind of want to gear towards offensive players. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Unless you are LT that transcends

because the TJ Watts and all these guys, the Vaughn Millers and all these guys, the Derek Thomas, the Cornelius Bennett, all that's because of LT. I know who my favorite boxer is. Now, he might not have been the best according to his record, but his style and his entertaining style of fighting would be equivalent to me on the football field. Emmanuel Augustus. Not familiar with that. entertaining style of fighting would be equivalent to me on the football field emmanuel augustus emmanuel augustus they call it his nickname was the drunken master now if you watch if you you

google him or you watch some of his youtube youtube stuff you'll understand why he's my favorite now he wasn't obviously from from record wise he wasn't the best but entertainment value he reminded me of prince he's like prince nassim and i was gonna say that's who reminds me of you prince nassim about the dance yeah yeah yeah yeah doing flips over the top rope yeah yeah yeah but for those two those two right there from an entertainment aspect man two two of my favorites man two of my favorites to be able to be able to as difficult as boxing is which i consider boxing to be the most difficult sport there is for them to be able to entertain the way they do in the ring i just would love to see what their conditioning was like to prepare for a fight

because that shit they do was crazy yeah crazy oh yeah you ain't gonna tell me i know uh patrick rendon donated $20 and asked, Shannon, if it's true you recited Derek Thomas' girlfriend's phone number in the middle of the game. Because DT, no one heard what I said or didn't say, and he's not here to refute it. I just let that go. All I will say is this, is that I've made peace with DT before he passed and he

and I are in a good spot. So I'm going to leave it at that. No place underscore like underscore homes donated. It was a shame. You were not a first ballot hall of famer. What were your thoughts going in the year you got called up and how did you feel once you were called up? After I didn't get in on the first two times i just like i really didn't have a whole lot

of expectations um i know my grandmother had started to get in her health was starting to deteriorate even more ocho and i at least wanted her to me to be able to tell her granny I'm in the hall of fame and I remember when I got that call and I call her I said granny I'm I made the hall of fame and you know she's like well what's that baby I say uh I said granny that's where all the all the good players go when they retire she say uh oh we that that show lives nice i sure hope i'm around to see it i say you will be granny you will be now my grandmother passed a month before the actual ceremony and i believe that was her way because my grandmother knows she couldn't go and hear me give that speech in that present body she couldn't see me give that speech in that present body. She couldn't see me give that speech in that present body.

She had to leave, Ocho. She had to leave in order to hear and see me give that speech and to give her her moment. Because as I explained to the people, I said, you see this man that did this bust? He went to school to learn how to do this to turn uh a bronze or wood into a figure me i didn't go to give i didn't go to school to give mary porter a face i say this god gifted me with this to be able to paint a picture so when i'm done you know exactly who mary porter is and know

exactly how she looks so to to be able to call her and just and to give her like right said bro we did it called my sister she was crying called my mom called my homeboy Bucket and Burns it was great I mean you know I mean I didn't think about no Hall of Fame

I'm a seven round draft pick bro I'm just trying to make some money. I'm just trying to get my girl, you know, keep my grandmother from having to go to work and not have to wash, you know, clean people's house or anything. Go fishing when she want to. I wasn't thinking about no Hall of Fame. I just wanted to play. I just wanted, yay.

If I could say I played five, three, five years in the NFL, Ochoa, I told people I was going to the NFL. I ain't say I was going to play 25 years. I said, I'm going to the NFL, I'm playing the league. Right. Well, I did that. And so, man, it was,

it's an unbelievable feeling. It's not, it's not who I am. It's what I did. Yeah. And so sometimes people, you know, well, no, they don't send checks for people to make the Hall of Fame. It's an unbelievable honor. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that it's not.

But it didn't change me. I'm still Shannon. I'm still, you know, my homeboy, my kids. I'm still the same. It didn't change me one way, Ocho. But it's an unbelievable honor. Post a child donated ten dollars and said, hey, Ocho, who do you think is winning the EPL this year? Shout out from San Diego EPL this year you don't know much about soccer but right now listen Arsenal is doing really well obviously at the top of the table right now. After today's win. Did Vieri own replay for Arsenal? Yeah, that was, yeah, that was.

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about that. Don't talk about the win. That's what I don't know. That was a while ago. Vieri owned. I see you. I see you. Yeah, but listen, Man City.

Holland is the guy now. Who? Holland. Yeah. There you go. Somebody just sent you that stuff, man. Ain't nobody doing nothing. Ain't nobody doing nothing.

Somebody just sent you that stuff. Yeah, Ain't nobody doing nothing. Ain't nobody doing nothing. Somebody just sent you that stuff. Yeah, Arsenal at the top of the table right now. Hopefully, Arsenal can actually keep a lead and stay at the top of the table and not let Man City overlap them towards the end of the season. So we'll see what happens. Okay.

Ain't nobody sending me something. Why you getting out, Joe? Because I know somebody's sending it to you. Ain't nobody said nothing. Somebody sent that to you. I ain't don't know. You don don't know about no soccer, man. Sean Camp donated $10 in the ass. Oh, Prime has a tight end coach vacancy.

Any interest? Shout out from Kanye's. Zero interest. I don't have the patience. I don't. I don't. I don't have the patience, bro.'t. I don't. I don't have the patience, bro. I can't go over something all week.

We meet about it. We practice it. We're going to go over the night before the game, and then you F it up. I'm going to lose it. John Marshall donated. He said, pardon my interruption. Yo, Ocho, I'm having a live

debate on chat how you're a better receiver than Steve Smith. Can y'all please opine on this? I don't know about that one, Ocho. We all good. I don't know about that one. What are

we going to debate? I don't know. Ocho, we make a case. You got to make a case. I'm the judge. I'm the judge. You got to make a case. You got to present a case in front of my court.

I don't need to make no case. I'm Ocho. You Ocho? Steve Smith was that boy, man. You know, me and Steve, we go way back to junior college. You know, he played a little longer than I did, but he was that boy.

How long did Smitty play? 15 or 16 years? I don't know. He played for a little minute. I don't know. Yeah, because he went to Baltimore. He played like three, four years in Baltimore.

What did he play? Because Smitty came out in 01. Because my last Pro Bowl, he was a rookie and he was the returner for the NFC. Yeah. He played 16. Yeah. He played 16? Yes.

God. Yes. Damn. Yeah, that boy was nice. JVL NC donated $5 and asked, from a single father with two little boys, how did you instill value and discipline in your children during the season or when you couldn't be there?

That was the moms. Why was that? Get rid of Satan. Because their mom told them your dad not lenient like mom. Your dad is only going to tell you something one time.

That's it. And he's going to talk to you in a tone that you're not used to hearing. So the kids were on their best behavior. It wasn't until they got to be teenagers,

but the kids really know. It was just my oldest. Because my oldest, she lived with me her junior and senior year. So she's a 16, 17-year-old female going through all of what they go through. She want what she want. She's strong will.

And so, you know we have to have a lot of conversations um and you know one of my one of my one of my one of my favorite lines kayla don't make daddy lose his job that's a good one don't be totally daddy lose his job. That's a good one. Don't make Danny lose his job. But it's because you hate Ocho because during the season, you know, they would come out early,

come out for a couple of games before it got too cold. And, you know, back then, you know, I would have to, you know, they were good. My sister would either fly, would fly to, to bring them or my son, my, my girlfriend would, would, would go get him.

And his mother was, was great about like, okay, I trust you. You trust her with our son. So, you know, back then you could walk the kid you walked out and what no you didn't have to you had to have a ticket she walked the kid my ex would get off the plane get him you know do their pleasantries and get back

on the plane and bring him and then you know I had to work so you know she's she's handling that or you know come time for trick or treat she take him to the facility you know she go get him you know go get him a costume and take him to the facility. So, but it's tough. It's tough when you're not there full time and you want things a certain way.

And that's not the way. Because think about it, Ocho. 90% of the time, do it in a different way than what they would do it with you yeah and they young they four, five, eight years old

they're like well man I've been doing it I've been doing it like this forever why I can't do it like this now right yeah that's funny the discipline and the morals

and the understanding the value of a dollar, all those other things. Obviously, when I was in season, one of the things that I mean, I see it from time to time on here, the importance of those you have kids from, the importance of being on the same page with those that you have kids from, and understanding as long as you two are on the same page, everything else is easy, especially when it comes to getting the kids to understand right from wrong, understand the value of a dollar, understanding the life lessons and why things are or why they are. It makes life so much easier

when it's done that way, instead of always being combative, instead of always arguing and then always arguing, well, you get the child and it just, it's just, it causes so much mess. We definitely tried to make it, we definitely tried to, you know, not to argue in front of the kids. Didn't always work out like that because, you know, hey, you got your point. You want to get your point in. I want to get my point in. Right,

right, right. But when it came down to it, you know, well, what do they want for Christmas? I get it. No,

they don't need that. No, no. Get it. Yeah. And so it was hard. But as they started to get older, I started to get less and less

and less of what they wanted for Christmas. You're not going to get 15 Christmas gifts. And every one that you want, you're not going to get that because it doesn't work like that in the real world. So as they started to get older, you have to explain, nah, you're not getting this, this, and this

because somebody else got that. Okay, that's fine. No. So as they got older, you try, you could explain it. They understood. But they're like, but daddy, you make,

yeah, daddy make, you don't. That's the difference. You know, the funny thing, the older they get, for me, I already got all my Christmas lists already from all the kids.

The older they get, the smaller the list gets and just a little bit more pricey. Yeah, thank you. They don't want 15 things. They want the little things that cost more than those 15 things. 15.

Yeah. Oh, I done got the list. I done got the list. You got yours already? Already. Already. Already. Already.

But I like to get that out the way. I said, don't wait till the last minute. And then they don't have it. And then you're going to talk about, well, they don't have it. You're not, I promise you, whatever you put on this list, you're not the only one that want it. Yeah, most definitely. So just to make sure you, you know, you're able to get what you want

or a close facsimile of it. My son really easy to shop for now because he got my grand. All he think about is stuff for the baby. I'm like, y'all easy. Yeah. Y'all easy. I like that right here.

He getting most of the stuff anyway. Y'all ain't getting, you know, y'all a little gift card. Y'all going to be opening presents to New Year's. All the stuff he going to get. Jerry Lee donated $50,000. Fate of the universe is on the line. Tom Brady's

at the helm and humanity needs a touchdown to live. Fourth and goal at the 10. And Ocho lined up out wide. One on one. No safety. Brady throws the ball. Who saves the world? Who gets us killed? If I guard you, Ocho, I'll Ocho lined up our wives one on one, no safety. Brady throws the ball. Who saves the world? Who gets us killed? If I guard you, Ocho, I'm sorry,

Ocho. Ocho, I'm sorry. You guard me? I'm guarding you. Well, then you done. Ocho, I hate to do this to you, Ocho. You done, boy, you done, man. If the world,

the world, forcho. You done, boy, you done, man. If the world, the world. Yes. For one, my specialty, my specialty is beating, bumping, running. So I. Ocho, Ocho, hold on, hold on. Do you hear what he's saying? You say you guard me. It's fourth and goal at the 10.

I'm not going to press you. Well, you definitely ain't going to play off. And you really done. I'm playing off. You in no man's land You can't play I'm where I'm right Where I want to be

No you're not No you're not Yes I am Yes I am No I'm not The world is saved And I'ma tell you The world is saved

For the ball snap Mm-mm Yeah Mm-mm Yeah I'm gonna line up Five yards And I'm looking

At the quarterback By the time You look at the quarterback And get your ass Back on me I'm going to line up five yards and I'm looking at the quarterback by the time you look at the quarterback and get your ass back on me I'm going to be gone look here it's fourth and goal all I got to do is keep you at the end zone yeah alright

it sounds good that's what everybody said that's what everybody said when I was playing too I just got to keep you at the end zone I'll put that I'll put that soup bone on you I don't see that

you see that I'll put that soup bone on you I'm don't see that. You see that? I put that soup bone on you? I'm going right through that. Ocho, just imagine I'm a bigger Rebus. You're who? I'm a bigger Rebus. I'm a bigger Rebus.

Ever. You talking about what? You talking about butthead and beavers? I'm a bigger Rebus. Ocho. Ocho. Ocho, you know hey ojo i gotta do it put these clamps on you i touch it it's over for you i i don't i don't even get touched i just reavers touch you reavers no no i didn't get touched at the line i just ball just wasn't complete nah reavers i was like man, Revis did this to man here?

Nah, I see. There you go lying now. I'm just saying. You can turn on the film. Ocho. Ocho. That right where you going? Mm-mm.

I'm going to have you right there, all up in your collar like that right there, Ocho. You're too little anyway, man. I'm going to talk you out your game so I know. Put fourth and goal on the pin. I know I'm scoring. Ocho, you do realize I'm a professional talker, right? Yeah. What you mean?

I wrote the book on talking. Ocho, I was talking. I wrote the book on talking trash. Not only did I write the book, I walk it when I talk it too. Ocho, I read the preface. Is that the first part? So you, okay, you wrote a couple of chapters. But the first thing they read.

Read, read, read, read, read the content. Read the contents. Ocho. Ocho, come on, Ocho. You don't know what I do. Ocho, they already voted me. Ocho, they already voted me top. Ocho?

No, I'm the number one trash talker of all time. No, you're not. What you talking about? Pull up the list. You want to see the list again, Ocho? Nah, that boo-boo ass. No, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that because it's boo-boo because you're not number one and I am. Pull up the list. You want to see the list again, Ocho? Nah, that boo-boo ass, that boo-boo ass. No, no, no, don't do that

because it's boo-boo because you're not number one and I ain't number one either, but I'm higher than you. Trust me. The people that know, know. The people that know, know. The people that know

or need to know, they know. What they know, Ocho? The greatest, not only talker, but entertainer of all time is sitting on the other side of this lens. They're looking at him. They know where he is. Yeah, right here.

Right here. My hair ain't done, so I had to wear a skull cap. What hair? You ain't got no hair. Oh, man, you know what? I'm going to the game tomorrow. What game? The Philly Lakers game.

I got to do inside the NFL, but I'm flying in a day early to go to the game. I'm sitting courtside. What time the game come on? I'm out. What, 7.30? It's my first game for the year. Chad, Chad, they voted you

18th best trash talker of all time. And them... Again, who you think... Who you think... Who you think made that? The same people... The same people that be voting for Pro Bowl are all pro team?

Yeah. You ain't had no problem When they voted you all pro You didn't say these people Don't know what the hell they doing They don't know They don't know what they doing Oh okay

Ask the people that played the game Who the number one trash talker Of all time is Not no Not no voters I ain't talking about no voters They ain't never played no football Don't do that Ocho

Now you trying to diminish me The top five Yeah You trying to diminish me I'm not trying to diminish you. You're trying to undermine me. Ask the people that actually played the game with us who the greatest talker and entertainer of all time is.

Who called the National Guard on the Patriots? Huh? Who called the National Guard on the Patriots? That was you. That was cool. That was all right. Did you hear what the man asked me? The man just asked me a question.

You heard what the man asked me. I'm the asked me a question. You heard what the man asked me. I'm the only man that get 30 yards. I get 30 yards. I got 30 yards of pillows on one drive. You ever did that? I got fine three million. I got three million in fine throughout my career. You ain't got no fine on three million dollars. Total? Where we at?

Make sure you click that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We at, where we at? make sure you click that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button we at where we at? we at 346-652 y'all trying to take all my little money I ain't gonna have no money this month you can take my money

it's the holidays I don't even care that's why I need my money it's the holidays I done got my Christmas shopping out the way I don't even care. That's why I need my money. It's the holidays. I done got my Christmas shopping out the way. I ain't got mine. I finished Christmas shopping in August. You late.

Hey, you know, mom, sister, brother, three kid, grandkid. Well, you don't want me to name all my kids. Don't do that. Yeah, I know. You ain't. Boy, you got it easy. That's why I got mine.

I got mine. I just give my mom and sister money. That's it? That's it. You get what you want. Yeah. I don't know why. I mean, it's Christmas every... It's Christmas every month for them. Yeah. Hey.

You wear the crown. you know i just think the thing is that this job at this juncture the last thing my sister because she had the most important job because she had to be there and protect the most important asset which was our grandmother so my mind and my brother's mind could be at ease. She gave up whatever she might have wanted to become or what she wanted to do to make sure Granny was taken care of. So for that, there ain't no price tag. We've been taking

care of my sister. My sister hadn't had a job since the late 80s. But taking care of Granny, that was her job. Whatever Granny need, whatever time of the night, whatever it is,

you have that. And for that, you'll never have to work a day in your life. My mom, well, she had the most important job. She gave birth to me. So her job,

she getting royalties for the rest of her life of what she did in 1968. You know how people say they catalog? Well, I'm a catalog. And then my brother, hey,

he's straight too. You got any brothers brothers Ocho? yeah yeah yeah Chauncey I know I know Chauncey probably watching Sam you got any sisters? yeah

Shanita got my sister Shanita yeah how many brothers and sisters you got? that's it so it's four y'all? yeah

yeah where you fall at in the rank two number two I mean we all in 46 46

45 yeah right right down the road mm-hmm yeah Ocho you need to stop this though man

man you know every time people say man Ocho be trying to set you up you need to let Ocho set you up with such and such. Set you up with, man, bro. No.

What? What's wrong? What's wrong? What you scared of? Because they ain't ready for me. You know, I'll be on them diamonds, Ocho. So, you know, leave me alone. Can I ask you a question?

Yeah. so you don't leave me alone can I ask you a question? yeah like I don't I listen to rap but I don't listen to much rap to where I understand but if I'm not mistaken

Megan Thee Stallion yeah her music most of the time the people when you rap you rap about things that you know and experiences that you do

yeah and you'll be talking about that that diamond i don't think that's really going to work that's the point of her name the point of her being a stallion it it it supersedes anything that you're saying so i think i know she's good are you scared no but hey, but I understand, Ocho. Those, my grandpa used to say, boy, they can look down longer than you can look up. They look up longer than you can look down. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

Yes, sir. But hey, I have a stretch that's like a quarter to three. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Don't play with me. Ocho, you better stop playing with me, Ocho. Huh?

Man, please. Man, I'm just Huh? Bear, please. Man, I'm the Ojo boy here. I bet I got that liquid down on me. I keep that liquid on me now. A quarter to what? A quarter to three. Meg, I know you're going to see this, Meg. three Meg I know you gonna see this Meg I know you gonna see this

Three ways do it to her three ways Ocho Deep hearted continuously That's all I got You better stop playing Meg I know you gonna see this Meg ain't gonna see nothing Meg I know you gonna see this Ocho We gonna edit this out

Man listen Meg I'll let him see this. Meg ain't gonna see nothing. Meg, I know you're gonna see this, Ocho. We gonna edit this out. Man, listen, Meg, Unk right here, man. I'll let him. I ain't gotta say nothing. I ain't gotta say he's shooting his shot. I ain't gonna shoot no shot. Man, look here, man.

You know, we just having some fun, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all, yeah. That's how it start. It start with fun. I'm opening up like saloon doors.

You better stop pitching. Ocho, boy, y'all don't know about O'Shea. Boy, O'Shea was hell when he was well. I believe my lip. You know my walk a little off right now, but you know, I still do a little something here and there.

Hey, listen. What? You already had... You got a bad hip. Boy, they think good. Slow down. They think good. Ooh already had, you got a bad hip. Bo, they been good. Slow down, man. They been good. Ooh, no, they good, Ocho. They good, they good now, Ocho.

Let me hit Meg people, man. No, you don't need to hit Meg people. You don't need to hit Meg people. I don't want no problem, Ocho. I just, you know, me and you, we just chewing the fat. Nah, don't get scared now. Nah, I'm scared. Nah, don't get scared now. I'm scared.

Just pop that diamond. That 100 milligram, that liquid now. That liquid, that liquid, now they don't do the pill. They got that liquid, that thing fast acting. Yeah. do the pill. They got that liquid, that thing fast acting. Yeah. Yeah, man.

Okay, okay, okay. I got it. I mean, I ain't got to try that, but, you know, whatever works, whatever works, whatever works. It works. I ain't got that yet. It works. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

What's wrong with you? What you laughing about, Joe? What I do with you? What you left, Vojo? What'd I do now? Hey, you gonna get me in trouble, man. You gonna get me in trouble. What'd I do? What'd I do? What'd I do?

I'm just trying to... I just... Listen, I'm just... I don't know. That's all I did. I threw my hands up, Vojo. I ain't bothering nobody. Oh, I thought I got...

I thought I got that text. Told me, keep it cute. My bad. No, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, that's all we do, Vojo. We keep it cool down here. Yeah, yeah. I ain I got that text. Told me keep it cute. My bad. No, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, that's what we do. We keep it cool down here. Yeah, I ain't got nothing.

Yeah, we gonna, you know, you ain't got to say much. You know, I'm going to take the cue. You know, I'm going to do what I need to do on my end, man. You going to look it up? Yeah, make sure Meg get to you. But she going to see this. Shoot, Meg might be watching. Yeah, that got a nice little ring to it. Unc'n the Stallion. but she gonna see this shoot Meg might be watching yeah

that's that got a nice little ring to it Unc and the Stallion man Meg knees too good man you see how Meg be bouncing on knees man she must be had knees yeah yeah yeah

I seen that I seen that I need like Baron Sanders knees you know how bad knees be curtain yeah yeah a bad knees

she got good knees she got good knees A bad knee. She got good knees. She got good knees. You got bad hips. She got good knees. That's a perfect match. Ocho. Ocho. How's she going to be stretched out, Ocho? Like a quarter to three? Hey, you better stop

playing, Ocho. Man, thank y'all for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Make sure you click that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Guys, you've been unbelievable. Somehow, I got a feeling that Ocho and I are going to have to get off of 10 to 20 bands

by tomorrow. That's fine. You're definitely going to put us over $350 by tomorrow. That's fine. You definitely going to put us over 350 by tomorrow. Somebody call Meg. Call me. Oh, mercy. Y'all make sure Meg get this. Look here, man.

Look here, Ocho. Man, we just having fun, Ocho. We just having fun. Listen, nah. It all started with fun. Like, Sherelle slid in my DM as fun. You said to my ass. You see what we at now?

A child later, two, two. Nah, don't do that. It all started as fun. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. Ocho, I ain't bothering nobody, Ocho. Nah, it's too late. I'm just a 55-year-old granddad just trying to find my way in the world. Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Don't fold that. Don't fold that. I believe you, okay? You see what I'm saying? He say, nope. Nope, I ain't got nothing for you. Nope, nope, I ain't got nothing for you. Ain't got nothing for you.

I ain't got nothing for you, Joe. We're going to get you right, though. We're going to get you right, baby. You ain't too old now. We're going to get you right. though. We're going to get you right, baby. You ain't too old now. We're going to get you right. We ain't too old? Nah, we ain't too old now. We ain't too old.

Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, we got to go, Joe. I got to go to work in the morning. What happened? Stephen A. and Molly going to be in studio. We in L.A. tomorrow. Okay, okay, okay. Y'all handle that, man.

Shoot. I got a fight in the morning, man, in Philly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you have some talk back about the game. Because the game is at, what, 4 o'clock? 4.30? No, your time. Like 7.30, 8.30.

I just want to sit on this. I'm sitting course. I just want to heckle them boys and talk shit. Man, you ain't going to do nothing. 5.15? No, I'm saying the basketball game you going to the basketball game the Lakers and the Sixers

I think that's at 4.30 my time what time is it I think it's at 4.30 normally East Coast games at 4.30 right it's at 4 o30. Normally, East Coast games at 4.30, right? It's at 4 o'clock. Okay, okay, okay, okay. 4 o'clock.

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