Nightcap - Nightcap - Eagles-Chiefs, Tom Brady's Comments, Ocho's Destination Wedding

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Eagles’ win over the Chiefs (3:00), Tom Brady’s criticism of the modern-day NFL (27:00), the Zach Wilson situation at the Jets (44:00), Ocho's destination wedding (57:00), and more. #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's jump right into this ballgame, Ocho. Eagles go into Arrowhead, get a hard-fought victory. 21-17. Patrick Mahomes was 24-43. 177. Two touchdowns, an interception in the end zone. Conditions weren't ideal.

At all. But good teams finditions weren't ideal. At all. At all. But good teams find ways to overcome weather. They do. They do. I enjoyed the game. You told me you didn't like it before we started the show. You said you didn't like it.

Obviously, I enjoyed the game. I enjoyed the game, especially what the Chiefs were able to do in the first half. What the Chiefs were able to do in the first half defensively, I thought they were going to run away with the game. I thought they were going to run away with the game. I thought they were going to run away with the game. Listen, they brought pressure throughout the first half. The Eagles offensive line looked like they was overwhelmed. It looked like they weren't even the Chiefs

offensive line that we were used to seeing. Casey had... You mean the Eagles offensive line? I'm sorry, the Eagles offensive line. You're good. The Chiefs had five sacks in the first half. That's more sacks allowed in one half. They allowed an individual game this season.

You know, we need our boy. You know, the poster boy. The poster child. Kelsey, he fumbled, you know, with 13-21 left in the game. Eagles scored on his soon drive. What happens? They come back. They get the ball.

With an opportunity to score. And basically, to me, I think they would have won the game if MV... MVS. MVS. If he comes in with that catch. You always stated

that this game is created by moments. Moments happen in games like this where you could have won the game and it just didn't happen. It didn't happen. Can I ask you a question? Yes, sir.

When that ball went up in the air, did you think he was going to catch that ball? Listen, when I saw the DB, when I saw Roby and bump and run and not get a hand on Valdez, Marquez Valdez scan, didn't touch him,

I struck up the band. I struck up the band. You struck up the band. It's like seeing Tyreek with bump and run. Marquez can run. And you sitting up there and don't get a hand on him, I said, that's touchdown. That's touchdown. I knew it wasn't a touchdown.

You know why? How did you not know? How? Because he's a body catcher and it's inclement weather. When it's a body catcher, how do they catch the ball in dry weather with their bodies? So you actually think he was going to hand catch that over the shoulder? And you know that's the hardest one because you've got to track the ball. And so now you've got to, Ocho, you know how you do it.

You've got to take all the way to here. Right. He's a body catcher. But I have a question. Don't you think the weather, the weather plays some type of part with the type of gloves that they use today? The weather plays some type of part with slipping off of his hands? That could possibly be, but here's the

thing, Ocho. It doesn't matter. If you watch him throughout his career, he catches the majority of the ball with his body. He's jumping up doing this or doing this. So now when you're asking inclement weather to rely on your hands. And now you've got to track the over-the-shoulder to catch

is the hardest catch to make. Think about it. What is happening? It's raining. Guess where the raindrops are going? In your eyes. So now, and you're running. So you've got to steady your eyes, track the ball over,

follow it all the way down. And you can see on Joe Sude's hands, instead of him bringing it in, he got all the way down. And you can see Ocho Zutis hit his hands. Instead of him bringing it in, he got the ball up here. What you think is going to happen if you got the ball up here and you hit the ground, Ocho? It's gone. It's gone. Trav, I don't think Trav had a good game tonight.

Punch out. All you got to do, I mean, I don't know how you guys did it, but we got a scouting report on all the DBs. He likes to punch the ball out. He likes to strip from behind. He can be had on certain things. So we got a scouting report. Who likes to play bump and run?

Who likes to play off? Who likes to gamble? Does he like to punch the ball out? If you come from behind, guy, we had a scouting report. What's the scouting report on Bradley Roby? He's a punch-out guy. He's a peanut tillman. He's looking to be in front, and he's going to try to punch

the ball out. Trav, whatever, maybe they had the report. He got a little careless with the ball. It got away from his body. Punch out. You take points off the board because that worst-case scenario, you're going to get a field goal. Field goal, at least. Patrick Mahomes throws the interception in the end zone. Bayard takes up.

Before he even throws the ball, because he's staring down Justin Watson, in the end zone. Bayard takes up before he even throws the ball because he's staring down Justin Watson. Bayard takes up before he even throws the ball. Right. And he had just gotten beat previously on that. I think there must have been some miscommunication throughout the secondary, and they just got beaten. He came back the very next drive and got an interception.

Yes, yes. And so there are two drives right there that you take at, let's just say at bare minimum, you took six points off the board. Right. And remember, kicking field goals, turning the ball over in red zone, you're going to lose ball games like that.

But I was on first check today. I told Stephen A, what I've seen this year from the Eagles. They'll middle around and don't get it going. But if you leave them in the game, Jalen Hurts will find a way to beat you at the end. He's going to find a way. And the

Eagles, remember, I was the one that was concerned early this year about the Chiefs offense. I told you, Ocho. Now, they got shut out in the second half. They're scoring an NFL-worst 5.9 in the second half. In the second half of games, right.

And they just got blank. So that average 5.9 is about to dip. And I told you, I said, I got concerned, Ocho. I said, well, you talking about Nahum Mahomes? I said, no. At some point in time, he's not even enough to overcome the inadequate play they get from this skill position. But this is this is the thing about it. And we talk about we talk about Patrick Holmes.

And I said, even with them being blanketed and dubbed in the second half, they won't be seeing a defense like this week to week. How many defenses are they going to see week to week that are that of the Philadelphia Eagles? So that's where I say they can overcome it because an other team that they're going to play, Patrick Mahomes is going to be able to manipulate, dissect, and basically be a goddamn surgeon against other teams outside of the Eagles. And it might be one of the team that is,

that is suited very well across the board. And as far as the, the roster is concerned that can compete with them at every spot. Yeah. I think that the one that also the things, and give the Eagles credit, they did a great job of adjusting, of doing a better job of protecting Jalen Hurst in the second half. They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hand. They did a great job. LeJarius Sneed did an unbelievable job on A.J. Brown.

He followed him the whole game, didn't he? He did an unbelievable job on A.J. Brown. And so now you got to go, and that's why you got a Devontae Smith. So now you're number two all of a sudden has to be number one because they're doing a great job on number one. So now you need Devontae to step up, and he did step up. But if you remember, there was another play. MVS had it, and there's no safety help.

He's one-on-one. I think it's Buckhalter. I think 32. What'son-one. I think it's Buckhalter. I think 32. What's his last name? I think it's Buckhalter. He runs a seven route. Why would you run a seven route instead of a goal? If you notice that Ocho, Mahomes threw him up the field like run a goal. Why are you running a seven

route with no safety? You're going to let the guy use the sideline because even if you catch the seven route, he's going to push you out of bounds. Why not keep it up the field? you're going to let the guy use the sideline because even if you catch the several rounds, he's going to push you out of bounds. Push you out of bounds, right. Why not keep it up the field? But that's something they probably hadn't worked on. And I'm so glad you just mentioned that.

Let's talk about the play with A.J. Brown that had A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts on the sideline arguing. Yeah. It was a hot route. Ladarius Sneed knew it was a hot route. So what did he do? He jumped it.

Even though the split was condensed and he widened out, he knew the ball had to come out. So what did A.J. Brown do? Oh, Ladarius wanted cheating? Just sit there? He threw up the mailbox like Randy Moss. But it's something that him and Jalen Hurts hadn't worked on so the ball was already gone.

He had to let it go because it was a hot route. I think the chemistry and being together for a long time, I don't know if they had the freedom to do that yet, where he could say, listen, I know a hot route is coming. I know he's going to cheat. I know he's going to sit. I'm going to hold the ball.

I'm going to hold the ball a split second longer, a split second longer and take that hit. But you got to come through for me because that's six points. That's six points. I understand where A.J. Brown was coming from. But again, Jlen hirsch doesn't know that so he got to get that ball out his hands and it ended up being an interception i get that one ocho because it's a bang bang play bang bang yeah look look that's something look here if he jumps it i'm gonna run the sluggle i'm gonna run i a i'm gonna fake it and i'm and I'm going to hit him over the top. So in a situation like that,

you're going to ask Jalen Hurts to just retreat. Just retreat and put it up. And let it go. Yeah. But in an MVS situation, I should have to tell you that. Right.

Bro, ain't no safety in the middle of the field. Why in the hell would you run a seven route instead of a go? Yeah. Yeah. That's, but see, Ocho, we think like, I mean, a lot of guys I mean there was just common

knowledge and MVS has been with has been with Mahomes he won the Super Bowl with him last year yeah this is not like he's a new receiver right he's been there right that stuff that should be common knowledge in a situation like that oh they ain't got no safety. Why would I run a separate? Why would I want a 30-yard completion when I can get a 50-yard touchdown? Yeah, the funny thing about it is anytime they probably ran that concept at a different formations or different salad dressings, as I call it, there might have been a safety there. So every time he has run it, the look has always been for him

to run the corner route. And just so happened in this game, the safety might have did something. They had no business, and he wasn't there. But he's used to doing it one way all the time and just wanting to be in the corner out. And just so happened in this game, the safety might have did something. They had no business and he wasn't there, but he's used to doing it one way all the time and just wanted to be in the same place. And Mahomes might have been on a different page. Obviously, they weren't. Mahomes threw him up the field because Mahomes...

He can see it. What do we say? What makes great receiver a quarterback combination is the ability to see things at the exact same time, the exact same way. And be able to adjust and be able to adjust on the fly. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. We got Ocho. We've already got 17,000 people in the live and they're donating up a storm asking this question. Herman Cruz donated $10. Do you believe if the chiefs have actually invested money on a grid and a true number one receiver, they would be in situations like this.

What receiver was available? DeHop? Could they have gotten DeHop? Yeah, they could have. And he would have been tremendous in that offense. Jesus Christ. Because I need Sky Moore. Look, this is your second year. You're a sophomore. You need to take that next step.

Darius Toney, you need to take that next step. He can't be so reliant, so dependent, because if Kelsey has a game like he had tonight, then what do I do? Right. If I put all of my eggs in one basket and I trip on the way to the market,

there goes everything, Ocho. And that's what's happened. He's invested so much in Trav. And if Trav ever has an off game, you see how bad it looked. He was 24-43, 177. Yeah. Again, even with the stat line, I'm still going to use the inclement weather as a reason for it. And I think some of those catches that were dropped tonight are caught if it's a dry game. If it's a dry game. And again, even if they don't have a number one receiver,

Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowls. Obviously, one of them being with Tyreek Hill. But after that, there still was no true number one where you have to lock in and say, you know what? When the defense comes out the huddle, we have to call our assignments and our adjustments based on where he lines up. They didn't have that, and they still won a Super Bowl.

So obviously Patrick Mahomes is that good. That's last year, Ojo. He can overcome not having a number one. What did Joe Craig say? Yesterday's price ain't today's price. Last year's team ain't this year's team. Right.

And you get outstanding play by your defense, their defense is balling out of control. And for the offense, that's a Patrick Mahomes-led offense. And they were already scoring 23 points a game, which is the lowest in a Mahomes era. Now it's going to be even lower. And they're scoring this few points at home.

At home. And see, Ocho, I'm a very realistic guy. Look, I didn't like playing in the rain, but we don't use rain as an excuse. Because everybody's always practiced in the rain, and guess what? They're going to send checks. You're going to go get that check on Tuesday in Ocho. Come rain, come rain. Before they started

doing direct deposit, I always got my check, Ocho. I needed to see it. I needed to see it. I didn't get no direct deposit. Ocho, I didn't have no direct deposit. I always got my check, Ojo. I needed to see it. I didn't get no direct deposit. Ojo, I didn't have no direct deposit. I didn't have no direct deposit until I started working for Fox. They told me they wasn't going to send me my money. I had to get direct deposit. Prior to that, I had to go upstairs and get them

checks. I needed to see my money. Wait, hold on. You didn't get direct deposit, so you went and got your check and took it to the bank yourself? I took it to the bank myself. Nah, that's too much. That's too much, man. I mean, watch out.

I had deferred a lot of my money. Hey, I deferred a lot of my money one time. Ocho, I had like $2.2 million. Right, right. I had it for like 30 days sitting in my drawer. The Broncos called me and was like, Shannon, did you receive that check? Right. I was like, yeah.

I said, it's in the drawer. They're like, do you mind cashing it? Oh, yeah. I forgot all about it. I put it in the drawer and forgot all about it, don't you? And it was like 40 days. And they called me and said,

do you mind cashing it? Right. Because, hey, even that's a lot of, they're like, hold on. We wrote something for two million and it hasn't been cashed. Yeah.

They said, well, you know, don't worry about cashing it. We're going to reissue you another one. Issue a new one, yeah. Can you go cash that one? Would you get it? I was like, okay, I'll do that. But look, it happened.

Alan Perkins, the second, donated $10 and asked, do you think the Chiefs are missing Eric Biennium? Andy Reid was calling the plays then. He's calling the plays now. Calling the plays now. Yeah. Go ahead. And I thought Andy did a masterful job early on.

They was getting Pacheco involved, running the football. They was throwing the football. They was spreading it around. They did a nice job with a lot of smoke screen, jailbreak screen, whatever you want to call it. They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hands. And then all of a sudden, the offense became stagnant.

Yeah. Those halftime adjustments were made by the Eagles. The Eagles have a very, very, very good defense. I think they got a good front line. I think their back end is terrible. I don't think their back end is very good.

You don't think... I think because of the front line, it makes the secondary that much better because they can cheat. They can gamble. They can do a lot more because the front line is that good. Their 29th and pass defense.

There's only 32 teams, Ocho. Yeah, I hate when you throw numbers at me like that. Well, how about this, Sam Howell? Especially with how they look tonight. Sam Howell, hold on, what about

inclement weather? Now, you've been using that the whole night, but now you don't want to use it? Right, yeah. But how about this? Sam Howell threw for 397 and four touchdowns.

You remember that? That, just three weeks ago, threw for 374 and three touchdowns. They're 29th in pass defense for a reason, Ocho. That ain't an accident. They can be had, but the question is, do I have the receivers that can go have them?

I know I got the quarterback. I'm not questioning Mahomes. He had a bad night throwing the football tonight, and that needs to be pointed out. He did not play particularly well. Yeah, he had a bad night throwing the football tonight, and that needs to be pointed out. He did not play particularly well. Yeah, he had a great throw at the end that could have made everybody forget what transpired throughout the course of the game. It changes everything.

But he did not throw the ball. He was a little off. And look, it's hard, and I get it, but you have to understand, guys are not going to be plucking the ball. You putting the ball where you normally would throw it, Ocho, you got to put that ball in between the numbers. You got to give them an opportunity because that ball is going to hit your hand

and it's going to ski it. So catches that guys would normally make, it ain't happening. It ain't happening. And now you really got to focus. I mean, it was almost like, hey, you got to get – bro, now I'm not even worried about running after the catch, Ocho. I'm so focused on just catching the football. Catching the ball, yeah. A lot of times, I'm just catching it and

getting five yards. I'm catching it and getting ten yards where if it's dry, or I'm spinning up out there, I'm about to book it. Right away. I'm about to hit you with these right here and try to get up out of there. And I don't think people I don't think people watching at home, they'll be like, oh, it just rained, you got to catch the ball. I don't think they understand the difficulty

at running at the speed that you're running with everything that's around you, being able to process it, people coming at you, people coming to tackle you, knowing hits are coming and then having to lock in times 10 to make sure you ensure the catch. And even with you being locked in, you still

drop it because of the gloves that they use today are not for rainy weather. And you know, people never want to take their gloves off. They never want to take their gloves off. No, no. I mean, I really didn't wear, I think I wore a glove my senior year in high school and college. But for the most part,

I was bare hands up until my senior year in college. And then I probably would have stayed bare handed had they not. But, you know, at tight end, man, you had that banging helmets. Yeah. Yeah. You got to use your hands too much. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But look, give the Eagles credit. The Eagles, the Eagles, the Eagles are a resilient football team. The Eagles football team reminds you a lot of the fans. That's a very blue collar. That's a of the fans. That's a very blue collar. That's a very tough town. That's a very blue collar.

That's a very tough and physical minded football team. Yeah. And I want to give Nick Sirianni credit because when he showed up, I'm like, who the hell is Nick Sirianni? And he showed up. He didn't even have a suit because he wasn't even expected to get in the job.

Right. Right. He gets the job and he got an Eagle sweat suit on. And I'm like, who the hell is this dude? But he's been better than I ever imagined he would. And Jeffrey Lurie

and Howie Roseman, the owner, Jeffrey Lurie, Howie Roseman is the general manager. They hit this one out of the park. Yeah, yeah. They got the right guy. This is their year. This is their...

If it's not this year, it's next year. But at some point, you're not going to be able to keep... Oh, you're not going to be able to keep that superstar team together now. So you got to get it

either this year or next year. Well, guys are going to start coming available. I mean, AJ, I mean, Devontae Smith is going to go on a contract. You know, I don't know. You know, Jalen Carter

is a few years away. He's a rookie. He's on a rookie contract. Yeah. You got Hurts sewn up. Probably, you're going to probably have to come back to the table and do something with AJ after next year. The linemen, it all depends on how long those linemen want to play.

You got Lane Johnson on a nice contract. Ma Lott is on a nice contract. Kelsey's probably looking away. He's 36, the second oldest offensive lineman in football behind Dwayne Brown. So how much longer is he going to play? I like Landon Dixon. He's unbelievable at the right guard position. the oldest offensive lineman in football behind Dwayne Brown. So how much longer is he going to play? I like Landon Dixon.

He's unbelievable at the right guard position. So I think they can be good for a while. It all depends on Bradbury and Slade, but the defensive line, how much longer does Fletcher want to go? How much longer does Brandon Graham want to go? So they got some nice pieces, Ocho. Just filling that roster, you got a young Jalen Hurts

who improves by the week. But that knee, you know, I see Jalen Hurts get caught from behind by people that he'd kick dirt in their eyes. By the time they realized what would happen, he'd have been on the way back to the hood. He's still efficient, though, when he

does take the ball down the run. And what I like about Jalen is he is a true pocket passer first. And he ain't pulling the ball down the run. And what I like about Jalen is he is a true pocket passer first. And he ain't pulling the ball down and running with it unless he has to. Unless he just damn near has to. Yes. Mal, be crazy, donated $10 and asked, Jason and Travis Kelsey are the first brothers to play in the Super Bowl.

But if Sterling had not retired due to injury, it would have been you two. How special would Super Bowl 32 would have been if that had happened? It would have been great for us, but it would have been hell on my sister and my mom. And that's the thing. And things like that, as a competitor, you know, hey,

I want to win. He wants to win. That's my brother. But my mom and sister, my mom and sister, they're not going to be able to handle that. Who are they going to cheer for? How about that? Me. Because I'm the baby.

How do you know? Because I'm the baby. I'm the baby. Okay. I know my mom. I know my sister. Yeah, what the hell going on? Where?

The black dark behind you. It's pitch dark. Oh, shoot. That's the lights in the hotel. They must have cut off. Hold on. Let me turn them on. All I see right now is teeth. Yeah, that's all I see. The hotel.

The hotel must be on a timer. Hey, you heard me? The hotel must be on a timer or something. I ain't never heard of no hotel on no time. Hey, Ram! Nah, I'm in L.A. I just landed. Hey, Ram!

She ain't here. She watching, though. I'm sure she might be watching. She might be watching. Is she watching? Yeah, she watching. Hey, baby. Ocho, we just passed 21,000 lives.

What? Yeah. Hey, 21,000 people, I love y'all. I know you see this. I love you. If I've never seen you in person, I love you. Hugs from me. If you have met me in person, I appreciate you.

Thank you for subscribing and all that good stuff, man. We're going to continue to make sure we pay it forward. We're going to bless you now. We're going to bless you. Thank you for subscribing and all that good stuff, man. We're going to continue to make sure we pay it forward. We're going to bless you now. We're going to bless you. They say they don't want to be no guy to be a zugga on toes like Nick Bone. Who?

Yes, they do. Yes, they do. No, no. Yes, they do. They understand. Listen, if you can eat pig feet, if you can eat pig feet, Yeah, they got very good hot sauce.

If you can eat raccoon listen you can put hot sauce on toes too you can put hot sauce on toes start with the pinky toe and play the flute that's how you practice start with the pinky toe and play the flute nah I'd rather get off a couple of bands a month and then

have these socks on toes I ain't gonna be able to do that one go ahead and take these couple extra bands I got for you but I can't do that Ocho hey do that one. Go ahead and take these couple extra bands I got for you. But I can't do that, Ocho. Hey, listen, you can't talk about you want Miss Be Nasty if you ain't willing to be nasty now. It ain't making no sense now. One plus one got to equal two.

You ain't making no sense. One plus one got to equal two. There's other ways. There's other ways to be nasty now. You know what I'm saying? There's levels. There's levels to dancing. I mean, right now, you're at 10. So, baby, I'm like at a

6, 6 and a half, 7. You're at a 12. On a scale of 1 to 10 or nasty, you're at 12. Listen, but listen, you done been on God's green earth very, very long. And there was Adam and Eve. They called it the birds and the bees. And I'm going to need you to catch up. I'm going to need you

to evolve. Right now, you nasty with a flip phone. You ain't even compatible in today's society. You a flip phone right now. I need you to come on and graduate with me. I might be that brick. I might be that first Motorola.

The big 8000. I might be that brick. I might be that first Motorola. The big 8,000. I might be one of the old brick bowl. You know what I'm saying? But you know, I'm catching up on you. I'm a little behind. Listen, even when you started learning to ride a bike, you had training wheels on. Right now, in that area, regardless of age,

you got your training wheels on, but we're going to guide you. We're going to guide you in this. We're going to get you together. Okay, I appreciate that, Ojo. I appreciate that. Check this out. Tom Brady went on the Stephen A. Smith show. Congratulations, Stephen A.

And says, the NFL is a weaker product. Brady says, I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL. I don't see excellence that I saw in the past. The rules have allowed for a lot of bad habits to get into the actual performance of the game. I just think the product, in my opinion, is less than what it used to be. So this is what he said. He said, offensive players need to protect themselves.

It's not up to a defensive player to protect an offensive player. The defensive player needs to protect himself. I didn't throw the ball into certain areas because I was afraid guys were going to get knocked out. That's the reality of it. I would not throw the ball over certain areas because I was afraid guys were going to get knocked out. That's the reality of it. I would not throw the ball over the middle when I played Ray Lewis because he knocked them out of the game and I couldn't afford to lose a player.

Good player. Yeah. That's what I've been saying. These guys throw the ball over the middle and then they get mad at the defensive player for knocking him out. Now they reach it up with one hand. They pretty posing and looking good and looking cute. Yeah, okay. Okay. The NFL has handicapped the game of football. It has handicapped players

that play on defense to a point to where they can't even tackle. Everything is a flag. Everything is a foul of some sort. They are fining players ridiculous amounts of money for playing the game of football that we were taught from yay high on how to play tackling proper doing all this

like there's nothing you can do now there's nothing you can do yeah they say don't leave with the crown of the helmet okay so people are start trying to use their shoulder now but it's impossible when you're running full speed and somebody plays a bang, bang plays and having to adjust your body and move it at a split second, somebody going to end up hurting themselves. They're going to end up hurting themselves. They've handicapped everybody. You can't get the quarterback. I understand that. I understand that part. You can't get the quarterback. You can't do anything. Some plays, it's it's ridiculous almost to the point where i understand what tom brady is coming from as far as the

product on the field because they're handicapping the defense to such an extent i think they're doing it purposely so the offense for the fans people are more excited they be more exciting it it just no i don't i don't want to say the wrong thing i can't get in trouble right they opened up the game because what do you like you like scoring and baseball what do you want you wanted the home run right they allowed the players to do certain things to be able to hit the ball over the fence and the and the mlb benefited the rewards and then all of a sudden they wanted all of a sudden become so stringent oh i can't believe y'all did that well you co-signed that you were all in favor of that right until it got out that everybody was doing it okay look at basketball what did they do they took they took the the hand

check it out they took certain aspects of the game out to make it free-flowing because everybody people got tired of seeing 85 80 ball games i want to see 115 to 112 right i want to see 130 125 and so they open the game up more people no fans i like this nba the nfl what did they do they made it damn impossible to hit the quarterback because you could only hit him in this area from the top of his number to the bottom of his number that's all you got that's great what they need to's crazy. What they need to start doing, what defensive players need to start doing, defensive ends, defensive tackles, corners, corners,

or the goddamn nickels coming on blitzes, it just run up and just hug him and just hold him. Just hold him up. Like, the game is going to come to that extent. We just got to grab somebody and just hold him up and wait for the whistle to blow. That's what it's coming to. But then what happens when you run it so fast

and then you fall on top of it? Now you put your weight on it. Yeah, yeah. And this is the thing. The NFL always talks about protecting players. Protecting players, I understand. I understand safety, technology, that advancement of it and how far it's come.

Listen, players are getting bigger, faster, and stronger. The dimensions of the field have yet to change. They haven't changed at all. So what do you want to give? Something has to give. Something has to give. Telling the players that are getting bigger, faster, and stronger, okay, you have to change the way you tackle. Okay, you have to change. It's impossible.

But you don't tackle. The only time you tackle is in the game. So where do you get that practice, Robo Joe? Well, don't do this. Okay, so you're just telling us to do that. We get no repetitions of doing that. The only repetitions we get is come game day. And I tell guys, and I said,

if I flash my hands in front of your face, you're going to blink. So what do you think if I'm a receiver, I catch the ball and I see somebody coming? I'm going to crunch. I'm going to ball up. So now I might be up here. I see him coming. I bring myself down into him. Now he hits me in the head or shoulder

area. Now all of a sudden, it's a flag on him. And I'm firing $20,000 for something that I can't even help. That is a reaction. It's a reaction. You just reacted. And then also, what I know why the NFL changed nfl changed these rules remember that remember that that lawsuit right that but yeah but yeah but that lawsuit

that is why the rules are as crazy as they are because the nfl is also protecting the shield so players can't come now 10 15 20 years from now and say well look these are the reasons why i feel this way i'm suing well no're not going to be able to do that because there are rules set in place now that protects the NFL saying, well, no, we had the rules set in place so you can't come back and sue us 20-some years from now because of damage or CT or anything of that sort. Yeah.

I look at the NFL as an assumption of the risk. You know, broken bones, torn ligaments. If you play long enough, you're going to get, if you play long enough, you're going to get a concussion. Somebody going to hit you in the top of your head or hit you in the side and you're going to get

your bell rung. Because when I first got in the league, they didn't use the term concussion unless you got literally knocked out. You said, oh, you got your bell rung

or you got dinged up. But then, you know, they started doing all these studies and people started saying, oh no, that's a concussion.

But no, I get it. But here's the thing thing i agree with everything that tom brady said oh yeah guess what but guess what ocho tom brady benefited from these rules yeah he did well on the back end on the back end bro he played 23 years do you hold on ocho check this out i don't know if you remember this but in 1990 when did the rules start where you could actually hit? Which, uh, uh... I don't... I think the defensive receiver started about five years ago.

But here's the thing, Ocho. Think about this. In 1999, you know how Kurt Warner got on the field? Rodney Harrison hit Trent Green in the knee,

in the pocket. Ah. He fell into him, huh? By accident? It was in the preseason game. He hit him in his pocket. Ah. He fell into him, huh? By accident? It was in the preseason game. He hit him in his knee. They didn't change the rule until 2009.

And why did they change it? The tuck? Was it the tuck one? No. The ACL. In 2008, Pollard, Bernard Pollard

from Kansas City hit Tom Brady in the pocket in his knee. And they immediately changed the rule. And that's when Matt Castle had to come in and finish the season. There you go. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So now, they

changed the rule. Then they also said we're going to take it a step further. Now, you're not going to be able to land your body on top of the player. So if you're going to take him down, you got to land on your side. Or you got to protect him or pull him down on top of you. I ain't pull him down on top of you i ain't pulling down on top of me

i'm gonna slam his hands down well i do understand that part obviously 300 pound defensive tackles you got you got the damn dns at 280 250 yeah land all that pressure on the quarterback separate his shoulders ac sprains and you you want your quarterbacks to be able to finish the game because listen people coming to see the quarterbacks, they come to see your offense. Won't be the same without them out there on the field. So I do understand one, the product, especially the quarterback on the field.

I totally understand, but you're handicapping the guys and you all, but they're hesitant. Now they don't want to, well, how do I get him? I don't want to slam him down. And now you all of a sudden you let the guy get out your grits out of your

grass. He runs out and throws a touchdown pass. And Coach is like, son, why do you get? Coach. What do you want me to do? I can't hit him. Exactly. And the same thing with the defensive receiver, the incidental contact.

It's so much. Before we move on, Kareem Jackson got fined. He got suspended four games. And came back not in review on something else. No, they just suspended him four games for the hit on Dobbs last night. Again? See, this is why I disagree. Dobbs is a runner.

He's not for the protection of a defenseless player. He's not a receiver. He's not in a defenseless position. Ocho, he's running the football. It's third and one. I don't want you to fall forward. So I'm going to try to run through you. So what do they want the guy to do?

So now all of a sudden, I can't. So what am I supposed to do when a guy running full speed ahead? What am I supposed to do, Ocho? Can he appeal that or no? Yes, he's going to appeal it because he appealed the last one. They gave him four games. John, they heard it, and then he got two. This game, they gave him another four games, so I'm sure he's going to appeal it because this is he appealed the last when they gave him four games john they heard it and then he got two this game they gave him another four games so i'm sure he's going to appeal it again but when i look at it ocho i get defensive receiver i get the quarterback in the

pocket but as a runner he's no longer just because he has 50 he plays the quarterback and he could throw the ball he's a running back he's a receiver he's running the ball. He's a running back. He's a receiver. He's running the ball. He doesn't get the protections that a guy in the pocket or receiver trying to catch the ball does. Yeah. And that's unfortunate, man. That's unfortunate. He just came back.

Just got back. Sunday was his first game being active. I don't know. I don't know. I think, is it the competition committee that rules on this? Is it the competition committee or is it the NFL as a whole? It's the competition committee. Yeah.

They got it. They got to do something. They got to do something about that. Cause some, one of the, one of the defendant defenders are going to end up hurting themselves to prevent themselves and doing something that's not natural when it comes to tackling.

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and so uh we're going to continue. Ocho, the hip drop tackle. We see it put Mark Andrews out. We've seen a lot of guys getting injured with this play. I believe they're going to end up banning this tackle just like they did the horse collar.

Then what you going to do? How you going to tackle somebody? How are you going to tackle somebody? How are you going to tackle somebody that's in front of you? What are you going to do? How are you going to tackle somebody? How are you going to tackle somebody? How are you going to tackle somebody that's in front of you? What are you going to do? You can't ban it. This is what Tom was talking about. The offensive player need to protect themselves. When you feel the weight of somebody on

you, stop trying to fight it. Allow the body to just let go. Just let go and fall with it. Mark Andrews got hurt. You know why he got hurt? Because he's fighting through it. Don't fight through it.

If you know somebody's on you, if you feel the weight of somebody on you, just let go. Let go and just fall with it. Just flow with it. You learn that when you're a little kid. When you're a little kid and optimist, you learn that.

Oh, Joe Froome. You remember Horse Collar? They outlawed him. Roy Williams. Because why? Roy Williams on Terrell Owens when the Cowboys played the Eagles. Broke his ankle. But he also tore somebody's patella tendon.

He did a couple of guys like that. And they outlawed it. They said, you know what? Guys, you can stop. You don't have to tackle like that. And if you do tackle like that, we're going to penalize you. Right. And I think that's where they're heading, Ocho,

because I'm surprised they didn't do away with it last year because patrick mahomes is a big enough name to move the needle right the last thing you want him to do is to be unable and i i think had he missed the game if that had injury had put him out i think they would have outlawed it but because he came back and was able to play and they won the Super Bowl, they took another look at it. But I won't be surprised in the next year or so if that play is outlawed. And if you do it, it's going to get penalized.

Okay, and if they outlaw that and they handicap the defensive players even more than what they already are handicapped, then we might as well put some goddamn flags on. And that's no disrespect to the competition committee. That's no disrespect to the NFL. But I'm sure if we would have talked to defensive players, linebackers, safeties, cornerbacks, nickels, anybody on defense and ask them, if you want to outlaw that tackle, what do we do about individuals that are bigger than us, that are stronger than us, that we have to tackle from behind

or from the side that we're not meeting head on. What do we do? What do you do? Adaptability is one of the greatest things that's ever been created. You can't adapt. You can't.

There's no way to adapt. You've been playing the game one way all your life. You can't all of a sudden get to the NFL and the NFL decide to change the rule. People are bigger, faster, and stronger. There's nothing you can adapt to in changing at the speed of this game. You just can't do it. Ocho, but here's the thing.

There's a new wave of being taught. So the way you were taught, they weren't taught like that at a grassroots level. Now guys are getting taught at the grassroots level. Now guys are getting taught at the grassroots level. For $40 million, you would adapt because that's where the salaries are heading for defensive players. I never thought I'd see a defensive cornerback making $20 plus million. I never thought I'd see a defensive

lineman making $30 million. In 10 years from now, they're going to be a defensive lineman making $50 million, Ocho. Do you know there are some of these franchises that was purchased for less than 50 million? Right. So guys will find a way to adapt. Yeah.

They will. It's unfortunate, though. It's unfortunate. Your guy, Zach Wilson, now this is how bad it's gotten. They just signed Trevor Simeon to the practice squad. He's going to be the number

two all the way down to three. He probably won't even get an opportunity to dress out. Zach Wilson might have played his last game. All things being equal, Ocho, what they really hope would happen is that they could get two years squeezed, two years out of Aaron Rodgers.

Get Zach Wilson to sit for two years, see, and then bring him back. But Aaron Rodgers got hurt the fourth play of the season. Zach Wilson got thrust back into the situation, and here we are. Check this out. Since the start of 2021, when Robert Sala took over as head coach, the Jets are one of two teams that have thrown more

interceptions than touchdown passes along with the Carolina Panthers. Let that sink in, Ocho. Since 2021, they've thrown more interceptions than touchdown passes. One of two teams. I have a question for you. I got an answer for you.

I know you do. So, the Jets, can you name the last time the Jets had a quarterback, an efficient quarterback at the helm? You probably have to go back. You know, they went to back-to-back AFC Championship games, and I think, what was that, 08, 09? Or 9 and 10 with the Jets

with Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan? And Rex Ryan. Okay, before Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan. And Rex Ryan. Before Mark Sanchez, name another quarterback that was decent. I think Chad Pennington went to a couple of Pro Bowls with the Jets. In 98 in the AFC Championship game. But you're talking about like,

I mean, really, the only Hall of Fame quarterback that they've had is Joe Naiman. And Joe threw more interceptions than touchdown passes. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't really think this is a Zach Wilson problem. I think the quarterbacks that have played for that organization and that franchise have always struggled. They've always been OK.

So I'm not sure why. I understand why. I understand why Zach Wilson was benched. I am still on the bandwagon. Sometimes the bandwagon ain't always going in the right direction. It doesn't go in the direction you want it to go, but that's a hill that I'm willing to die on and will continue to support him from afar. I haven't even met Zach. I haven't met Zach Wilson yet. And I, I, I ride for buddy. Like,

like that's my homeboy. Like that's my dog. That's just, that's just, it's just in me like that. Always want to see everybody succeed, especially at the quarterback position. Oh, you know, yeah. Oh, Joe, just because you say somebody is not playing with, that doesn't mean you don't want them to succeed.

Right. I mean, you know, listen, listen. If you read some of the goddamn comments on Twitter when I'm on Twitter, you know, talking about Zach and the issues and the problems and the struggles of playing the quarterback position in New York. Oh, man, them people mean as hell, boy. Oh, Joe.

The New York fans and the Philly fans might be neck and neck when it comes to insults. I've been called everything under the sun. They look at Zach Wilson, and he's not playing particularly well. Is that when they started winning, ain't nobody mentioned about the offensive line. Right.

All they talked about was Zach. Zach playing good. Zach playing good. Zach playing good. Now all of a sudden, when he's... But here's the thing, Ocho. If you go back and look

at some of the games that they lost, what was so different about this game? He's looked bad. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you tried to add...

You tried... Robert Sala tried to add frosting to poop and tried to make him say, it's good. No. We saw you put frosting on the poop. We know what it is. Right. Right. to poop and tried to make him say it's good. No, we saw you put frosting on the poop.

We know what it is. Right, right. We know what Zach Wilson is. He can't dress it up no matter what you say. Right. And because he kept saying it. And then what,

the telltale, when they asked him a question about Zach, he said, I plead the fifth. Right. Listen, there are other areas.

Ocho, that's your quarterback. I got a question. Somebody ask you, hey, Ocho, you love Rel? I plead the fifth. Rel gonna slap you and gonna pack up and get up out of there.

Yeah, but let me ask you a question. There are 31 other teams, right? Yeah. Name another quarterback on the NFL roster right now that is a starter that can come on that Jets team

and make a difference with what they have to work with offensively, starting with that offensive line. Tell me one quarterback in the NFL that would come there and all of a sudden it would just be a miraculous difference. Well, I would like to think

it all depends on who you got in there. Now, when you look at it, you brought Aaron Rodgers in there. You do know Aaron Rodgers behind that offensive line. And where was Aaron Rodgers running for his life? No, he wasn't. Running for his life in that first game. He tore the Aaron Rodgers behind the offensive line. And where was Aaron Rodgers running for his life? Running for his life in that first game.

He tore the Achilles. That was his fault. It was a three-step drop. He looked to his right, and you know damn well on a three-step drop. It was a three-step drop, and somebody was on his goddamn ass. No, it was not, Ocho. Go back and look at the tape. He went to his right. He looked

to his right on a three-step drop. Can you work one side of the field and go to the other side? Yes or no? No, you got to stay there. You got to stay wherever you lock in. You got to go because the ball got to come out your hands. Okay, then. So that's what you saw. You saw it. I highlighted it. I came in on Tuesday and said

it was a three-step drop. He looked to his right. It wasn't there. He tried to go all the way backside. When a guy's on the offensive line, they're trying to cut to get the guy's hand down. They're not engaging like they would, say, on a typical five-step drop. On a three-step drop, the ball is

coming out quick. It's either coming out a quick out, a stop route, or a slam. Guys are trying to cut to get the hands down. You mean to tell me Aaron Rodgers is going to come back to that? I'm asking you. Listen, you understand. I've seen it. I've watched it.

Everyone else in this chat has watched it. They've watched the offensive line. They've watched the struggles. They've watched it. So I'm trying to understand who else in the hell, if you just hypothetically speaking, would actually come and play quarterback for the Jets right now and think it would look any

goddamn different. Well, you could say that for a lot of teams. You could say that for Carolina. You could say that for a lot of teams, Ocho. You see how Bryce looks? Do you see how Bryce is looking? You see how he's looking? Every time he drops back, I feel bad for Bryce. Every time he dropped back, I feel bad for Bryce. Every time he dropped back,

he getting swallowed up. He getting swallowed up every time. I don't believe Bryce will be looking like that. What year is this? This is year three for Zach or year two? This is year three.

I don't believe in year three Bryce Young will be looking like this. Right. I don't. Right, okay. I could be wrong. Hopefully you and I are still doing the show, and

we'll get an opportunity to see what Bryce Young is looking like in year three. But I said this last night. He's got to make a change. He don't have a choice. Right. Yeah. I understand. I understand. I understand it as a receiver, as

being part of an NFL team when things aren't going well, especially with the quarterback position and change needing to be made. Because there's one thing that I told you about. I think I forgot when I mentioned it

maybe two shows ago. Players get coaches fired. Players can get coaches fired. I mean, coaches can lose a locker room if change isn't made. We saw that happen with the Raiders and changes had to be made. And it's an unfortunate

situation for Zach. Zach, I know you're going to see this. I still love you. I'm still rocking with you. I'm still riding with you, man. Handle it like a professional. And when you get

your opportunity again, make the most of it. Two of my worst moments in my professional career is that I had two coaches fired on my watch. Coach Reeves in 1992 and Wade lost his job.

And I always thought, had I been the player that I became earlier, could I have saved those guys their job? I think Coach Reeves would give me the opportunity, but I wasn't the player

early enough because I do believe I could have helped save his job. Now, whatever transpired with him and John, I don't know and I wasn't the player early enough because I do believe I could have helped save his job. Now, whatever transpired with him and John, I don't know and I don't really care to know because both of those guys helped me immensely in my career. Wade brought in Jim Fossil. Jim Fossil built his offense

around me, but I just hate that I wasn't the player that I later became earlier because maybe I could have saved some guys. Maybe I could have saved their job, but I think Coach Reeves and his family know what I think of him. I see Wade all the time. Wade knows what I think of him, but that's probably one of two of my worst moments in

my career, Ocho, is not being done. It hurts to have someone lose their job on your watch. It should. Everybody happens. Players get cut, but that's not the way I look at it. I look at it like, had I been better earlier,

I might have could have saved those guys their job. Guys, Ocho and I, we're both in a hotel room, and the Wi-Fi is not the best, so we're trying to do, we're trying to make do with the best we can. I also want to apologize for people in the hotel rooms that Ocho and I are staying at,

because it is a little noisy. And I want to thank the hotel that I'm actually staying in because they removed the people on both sides because they kind of complained last night that we were loud. They removed the people on both sides of me. And so I want to thank you guys for that. Wait, you're in

LA? I'm in New York. Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. If I was in L.A., I'd have been in my house. So check this out, Ocho. You at a cheap hotel, because we got this five-star, five-star,

we got five-star fiber optics Wi-Fi over here. So I don't know where you staying at. Ocho, did you see this last night? A fan suffered an injury during a half-court shot at the Lakers game. A fan has an opportunity to win $55,000. $55,000, I saw that, yeah. If he hit a half-court shot.

People said he deserved the $55,000 for his troubles. Oh, listen, he finna get that money one way or another. He gonna get shot. He ain't leaving with something because he got hurt. And I don't think he really hurt. He leaving with something. I think that was his whole plan. I'm gonna go out here.

Even if I miss this shot, I'm walking out of here with something. Just like Denzel. Denzel told Jamie Foxx. I'm walking out of here with something. But I think,

you probably have to sign a waiver. You probably signed a waiver. You think so? You think you probably have to sign a waiver. You probably signed a waiver, Ojo. You think so? You think you signed a waiver? For sure. Okay. Okay. Okay. If you signed a waiver, I'm just trying to understand, how do you get hurt just throwing, just throwing?

But he was excited. All I see is teeth and iPods. Hold on. My light done went off again. That's a good thing. That's how they save money on a light bill. Make it stay on. Yes.

Oh, Joe. So do you think he deserved, because they're on social media, they say he deserved the $55,000 anyway Nah Come on now you gotta make the shot Listen so you sign a waiver The whole point is to try to hit the half Court shot to win you some money

You ain't getting no $55,000 We'll give you something we'll give you a t-shirt We'll give you a t-shirt We'll give you two tickets for you and your wife to come to a game You know but Nah come on now Come on now 55,000

Nah Ocho When did this culture get this That oh I didn't win first place But I should get first prize money Well I didn't do I didn't do what the contest said

I should do in order to win But you know what You know what it is Ocho It ain't their money I guarantee you Oh yeah If it was theirs. If you pay a contractor to do the job,

and all of a sudden you say, you know, my truck broke down, and I'm not going to be able to do the job, are you going to pay him for the service that he didn't provide? Right. They don't know, because it's your money.

No, not exactly. So you want to give $55,000 away, that's not your money. Yeah. People love to spend other people's not your money. Yeah. People got great, people love to spend other people's money. Always. Always.

But obviously, let's be realistic, let's be fair. And we were doomed as a society when we started giving out participating trophies. Yeah, man.

When we started giving out participating trophies and rewarding people for coming in third, rewarding people for coming in fourth, rewarding people for coming in...

Or just showing up. Or just showing up. Or just showing up. Shit's been downhill ever since. Ocho, our chat said, not only do you fly Spirit Air, you stay at Spirit Motel. Oh, nah. Oh, nah, nah.

Listen, listen. Hey, listen. This hotel I'm in right here, in LA, this is five-star. This is five star. They even took my bags when I came to the hotel. They had a man grab my bag and take it to my room before I even checked in.

I ain't never seen that. They had coffee ready for me. And even when I came in the hotel room, it had a note. It had a note. Hey, welcome, Mr. Johnson. We are glad to have you. I ain't never seen that. I ain't never seen that I ain't never seen that

well I guess you been standing on low budget I guess they left the lights on for you too huh no when I walked in they had the air set to 85 they had the air set to 85 when I walked in here you know what that means right

it's too hot no no no it was it was for me it was like okay Ocho you here and it said we set the air to 85 because you here this is a representation of you we love you Ocho check this out

studies show the more money you spend on engagement rings the more probable it is for divorce how much money you spend on engagement rings, the more probable it is for divorce. How much money you spend on rails? On rail ring? Yeah, it wasn't nothing but it wasn't, I think, it wasn't nothing but like $225,

$250. $25 what? $225? Nah, shit, bro. I don't play. I don't play. Listen, when it come to her, I don't play. I'm open. I'm open. I'm a person, man. Yeah, that wasn't much That wasn't much

That wasn't That wasn't nothing either That ain't even the wedding Huh? That ain't even the wedding Oh you know I'm finna cut up at the wedding Can I tell you

How the wedding gonna be? Let me tell you Make sure you come too now We got a destination wedding I'm going to get married I ain't bringing nothing But my appetite That's all you need And I'm going to get married. I ain't bringing nothing but my appetite. That's all you need. And I'm going to have

an open bar for you. And I'm going to have an open bar for you. I want you to have a little something else that's open for me. But you don't go ahead on the whole show. Talk to me now. Cool. And y'all don't know about no bar. They might be on top of the bar. Hey, but listen. Stay with me now baby

Stay with me Okay I'm with you I'm going to stay with you I'm going to follow you We in the Bahamas I know you got your passport Yeah I got it too We in the Bahamas

So we having a wedding On the beach I already got everything I already got everything We're beach wedding I always wanted to be on the beach Yeah listen You can wear your shoes Or you don't got to wear your shoes Either way I always wanted to be on the beach. Yeah, listen, you can wear your shoes

or you don't got to wear your shoes. Either way, it's going to be up to you. But you need a plus one. Stay with me. Let me finish. Okay. You know about the Junkanoo? You know about the Junkanoo?

I ain't never heard of it. Never heard of Junkanoo? No. What it is? Listen, Junkanoo is a festival similar to Carnival. You know, costumes, New Year's's Boxing Day

though beautiful beautiful so my favorite Junkanoo band obviously from my time to visiting the Bahamas

year in and year out every New Year's is they call the Valley Boys okay Valley Boys everybody in the chat do your homework

on the Valley Boys check them out watch them if you're not doing anything this New Year's come on down to the Bahamas and enjoy the New Year's

Day Parade and watch the Valley Boys. Anyway, the Valley Boys, they're going to send us out. They're going to send us out. When the wedding is over, to start the reception, the Valley Boys are going to play. So we talk about that's maybe three,

three, four hundred people. Huge band. Huge. You're going to play. So we talk about that's maybe three, three, three, 400 people. Huge band. Huge. You're going to like it. You're going to like it. You and your plus one are going to like it. Well, I need some help. I might need some help getting me a plus one.

Oh, I got you. Stay with me. You ain't got to worry about that. So let me tell you about the reception. No, no. Let me tell you about the reception. Listen, you getting married. You already done chose yours.

Let me choose mine. Nah, you done had 55 55 years to pick one he ain't got one yet so i'm gonna i'm gonna help you i'm gonna help you i'm gonna get i'm gonna make sure you straighten that category let me tell you who's singing at the wedding though who's singing at the wedding one brian mcknight oh okay i ain't finished now. Kiki Wyatt. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. Then I got a live band. Like, the kick is off.

The rest of the night. Guess who the band is? Earth, Wind & Fire? Frankie Beverly and Maze. Oh, no. Man, you... Ocho, I don't want to break it to you. Look, my mom, man, Frankie Beverly, he can't do it no more like he used to, Ocho.

Listen, it ain't about him not being able to do it like he used to. I just need him for two hours. I just need him for two hours. I used to see Frankie Beverly and Maze at the Jazz Festival before in Cincinnati. With that white hat and them linen pants. Oh, with that white hat and them linen pants. Yep.

Man, every time. And I say, I say, look, Frank, baby, I need you.

I need you one more time. Oh, Joe, I need you one more time. He need to let go. You know, it's all before we let go. Yeah.

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Got to make it sticky. Yeah, dang. Well, listen, I know you ain't talking The way you be spending no money Listen, one of the few times One of the few times I'm going to open my purse And spend some money

And not think twice about it That's when it comes to my kids And my woman I'm willing to spend anything And that's an investment That's an investment And That's an investment. And it's going to appreciate. It's going to appreciate over time.

Yeah, I think. But I said, you know what I did? Well, I got to make some money there. I got to make some money there. I got to make some money. Matter of fact, and listen, ain't no motherfucking wedding finna happen

if you think I'm signing that prenup. Because we still ain't got through the logistics of that. That ain't happening. Rail, rail, rail. Make him sign that prenup. No, no, no, no't got through the logistics of that. That ain't happening. Make him sign that prenup. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen,

stay with me real quick. People in the chat, they probably don't even know. The people in the chat don't understand. I have been afforded and put in a in a fortunate position

to be a stay-at-home father. There have not been many of us Your ass ain't stayed at home. You on the road. That's only because it's football season. It's only because it's football season. But after football season, I stay at home. I don't do nothing.

I kick my feet up. I smoke my cigars. I make my coffee. I got my little Keurig. I play FIFA. I play Madden. So, listen. You do know what stay-at-home mean, right?

I stay at home. When I leave here, where do you think I go? I go back home, right? But where are you right now? I got to do Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow. A stay at home mom means she's... Well, I don't stay... Well, once the season over,

once football season over, basketball season over, I stay at home. No, a stay at home mom is a stay at home mom. Well, obviously, they still do other things outside of stay at home. No, they don't.

Yes, they do. That's what stay at home mean. That's not... Well, let me tell do other things outside of stay at home. No, they don't. Yes, they do. That's what stay at home means. Well, let me tell you how mine works. Let me tell you how mine works. I have been afforded the opportunity to where I have someone that can take care of me and everything ain't on me.

I don't have to do everything. I ain't got to pay all the bills. I ain't got to... Like that shit feel fucking good for a change where it just ain't all on me. And the weight, the burden of having change Where it just It ain't all on me Rail And the weight The burden of

The burden of having to take care of everything Ain't on me And that is such a great fucking feeling But if she think She think I'm finna sign A motherfucking prenup In case things don't work out And I'm finna walk away with nothing

Please Nah I need to have everything I need to have everything So I continue to live the same lifestyle that you provided for me. No, you were living that lifestyle before you met Rhea.

Yeah, but she made it easier. She made it even easier. She made it even easier. You don't understand how good I got it. You don't understand how good I got it. Rhea, read up. You don't understand how good I got it. You know what it's like.

Listen, stay with me now. You know how good it is. I was out somewhere right one time and I saw something I like. Hey, you know, I don't really want to spend no money. Man, I had, I'm like, baby, man, you won't believe what I just saw, man. It was about 22,000. And I hung up, went on about my day. I jumped in the car and I'm headed somewhere else. She hit me like, boy, check your account, boy. Man, I checked my day. I jumped in the car and I'm headed somewhere else. She hit me like, boy, check your account, boy.

Man, I checked my account. This motherfucker gonna send me 30 grand off the whip. I offer him. Well, you know what that feel like, boy? Do you know what that feel like to have a woman don't even got to think twice about it, man.

She done wired me 30,000 just because I mentioned something that I saw. I saw. I ain't even say I want it. I say I saw it because you know how I,000 just because I mentioned something that I saw. I saw. I didn't even say I wanted it. I said I saw it because she know how I am. I said I want something.

That's all right. That's all right. A few hours go by, I don't even care no more. This motherfucker sent me $30,000 out the blue. $30,000 like that? Man, like that.

Mind you, what I was looking at ain't cost nothing but $22,000. So, she done sent me an extra $8,000 or $9,000 or $10,000. I'm like, what you trying looking at ain't cost nothing but 22. So she done sent me an extra eight or nine or ten. I'm like, what you trying to do? And when we first met, this is what I like. This is what I was sold. This was what sold me, aunt. This what sold me. We first met. She said, listen,

you cool and all, but I don't even need you. I want you. Man, aunt, man, listen, man. I ain't never heard no shit like that, boy. I ain't never heard nothing like that. I ain't never heard nothing like that, man.

Most of the time, fellas, you know, we got to lead with money. You got to lead with money to attract what you want, you know? You got to pour into and you really get nothing back in return. And what you do get back in return, you can get from anywhere in the world when it come to somebody that actually like you because they

don't give it to you for free it just oh man it's but that's what you got to do it's a situation that's unbelievable man i i think the thing the thing is ocho is that you gotta you gotta be with the woman that likes you not the woman you like. Ooh, that's tough, though. That's tough. Because the woman that likes you is really not the one you want to be with. You chasing the ones you really want are the ones you having to chase behind. You got to chase

behind. You got to do all type of... You got to do somersaults. But here's the thing. But you ain't the only one chasing them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to compete. They like Usain You got to compete. You got to compete. They like Usain Bolt in his prime and the field was chasing him.

Oh, yeah. That's how it is. And the funny thing about it is the bigger the fish when it comes to the men, the one percenters, the one percenters, they get to pick and choose

who they want. They get to pick and choose and dibble and dabble. It's an unfair world and the game is a game the game is i wrote a book about it i don't want to get too much into it right now but i just i just at time to like i thank god for putting me in a position like this where i just i just ain't got to do it all i ain't got to do it all you know yeah that weight and that burden is off my shoulders real friend friend, the doctor just donated $500.

Man, that's too nice in a row. What? Hold on, hold on, hold on. What kind of doctor is he here? What kind of doctor is he here? What kind of doctor is he here? Because, you know, I might need a little minor surgery here or there. What kind of, can you help me?

Can you help my brother out? Hold on, let me finish hitting the Holy Ghost now. Hold on, let me finish hitting the Holy Ghost now. Hold on. Hey, boy. Unc, let me tell you something now. If you don't stop playing, if you don't stop playing and slide in them DMs. Ocho.

Ocho. Hey, where you at? Where you going? What you doing? Putting them diamonds in. I don't know what I'm gonna see but I'm gonna be ready

I'll pop one more diamond they say laugh about this they say laugh when I said the two hours I'm good and you put that

thing up on a tour you carry on show the carry on don't worry about me I got my stomach hurting I gotta be right Ocho Boy listen

Let me tell you something God loves the cheerful giver. I told you yesterday, don't ignore the signs. Don't ignore the signs. This sign ain't red. This sign is green. That means you need to go. Look at the name.

Save the name in the chat. Jot it down. Send a DM on Instagram and do what you need to do. Order my steps in by way which I want to walk. So the cup continued to runneth over. God said, when a man findeth a wife, he findeth a good thing. I don't know what else you need to see. I don't know what else you need to see unless you want God to come down here

and slap you across the head. The signs is right there. The signs is right there. Let me see if I still got that old script. I can feel this old script now. I keep a script. I keep a script on it for 30 days. For 30 days.

I might have to get that old liquid. You know, they got that liquid now that's 100 milligrams. They put a couple of drops up under your tongue. Ocho, I wanted to test it out, Ocho. I wanted to test it out because the doctor said, he said, Mr. Sharp, this liquid

is a little bit more, it's a little more potent than the tablets. For Ocho. I said, I don't know. I said, you sure, doc? He said, yeah. So, I went home and I was going over the bridge and the bridge was crooked. Right. I dropped a little drop in the water. The bridge straightened out. I ain't lying to you, Ocho. I put a guard in there. I put a guard in there, Ocho. The bridge straightened out.

I said, oh, this is what I'm looking for. Yeah, Ocho. Right on up out of there. I said, okay. Man, listen, man. I just... I mean, listen. It can't be no more clear. It's clear. I don't know if you use Vizine. Navcon.

Okay, Navcon, yeah. Yeah, I use Lumify So I can see real good And I can see What the man upstairs Is doing for you I can see it The people in the chat

Can see it Yeah, yeah That's what I've been Telling you They mad at me Yeah Yeah, go ahead And do what you need to do now

You know Go ahead Do what you need to do Get them training wheels Off of you that ice that ice that ice

that ice that ain't how you do timeout timeout like this okay nah okay yeah I need a full timeout

cause this is the 22nd timeout in basketball I need a full timeout as a matter of fact I'm gonna burn all three of mine right back to back to back cause I

timeout timeout timeout you know the NFL As a matter of fact, I'm going to burn all three of mine right back to back to back. Time out, time out, time out. You know, the NFL, you can't call back to back time out. Right, right, right, right. Hey, you know what, Ocho? You know, you got me leaning. Yeah, I see you blushing. You got me.

Yeah, I see you blushing, man. But you know, dark skin, brother, we be blushing. Don't nobody even know. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I could. Listen, I see you blushing, man. But you know, dark skinned brother, we be blushing. Don't nobody even know. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I could listen. I'm darkened to you. So I know how you feel. I can see it on the inside.

And it's okay to be the aggressor. Sometimes it's okay to be thirsty. You know, everybody want to be cool these days and pretend like they're not thirsty. You know, if you're not quenched, it's okay. Be the aggressor. Sometimes you got to go for what you want. My grandma always told me, a closed mouth don't get fed. In order to have or get somebody that you want,

sometimes you got to take initiative. Take initiative. Yeah. Sis, I appreciate you, sis. Sis, I love you. Sis, I love you and I thank you. I love you and I thank you. I love you and I thank you. We thank you.

You're going to be the plus one. We're going to make it happen. We're going to make it happen. Man, you know, Jamaica, you know, the Bahamas, a beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody, all white.

All white. Matter of fact, I. Everybody, all white. All white. Matter of fact, I forgot what to tell you. At the wedding, I'm coming in on a white horse. Yeah, yeah. I'm riding a black one. Matter of fact, you want a hug? When you hook me up with you. Yeah.

Let's go. That's the kind of talk I like Let's go What's your dream Thanksgiving plate? So we got Okay, Ocho, you got your plate What's going on the plate? What's the first thing going on the plate? Turkey Okay, boom, turkey

I got my ham Boom, ham I got my ham. Okay, boom, ham. Boom. I got my stuffing. Okay. Damn, what's next? Candy yams, mashed potatoes. Oh, my bad. My yams.

I'm sorry. My yams. My candy yams. Okay, okay. Boy, I'm about to cry. Man, grandma been gone since 2018, and I ain't had that kind of cooking in a long time. Yams. I got my macaroni.

Yeah, mac and cheese. Yeah, got it. My mac and cheese. I'm missing something. I'm missing something. I'm missing something. I'm missing something. Mac, yams. Wait, no, greens. Greens don't be part I'm missing something. Mac, yams.

Wait, no, greens. Greens don't be part of it. Yeah, collard greens. Yeah, for sure. And my collard greens. That's it right there. Yeah, for sure. That's enough for me.

Wait, please tell me you like sweet potato pie. Yeah, I like sweet potato pie. Okay, I'm just making a show. Really, I mean, sweet potato pie, you really can only have two pies, especially if you're black. You got sweet potato, you got pecan. Pecan, yeah. Pecan, what we call it, pecan.

Don't bring no pumpkin pie. You bring pumpkin pie to my house, I ain't letting you in. You ain't coming to my house with no damn pumpkin pie. Right, right, right. Sweet potato, maybe, I got this lady that she combines sweet potato, pecan. Together? Yeah, baby. What that taste like?

Well, if you tell me somebody got toes like that, I'm about to eat them up. She won't have them when she leave. If them toes taste like sweet potato pecan pie, it's over. Listen, toes taste like whatever you want to depending on what you dress them up with. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, I'm listening. Listen, it's the first time for everything. We going to guide you in slow. You ain't got to jump.

You ain't got to jump. Listen, you can start in the shallow. You ain't got to jump in the eight feet of water. We'll start you shallow. We going to work with you now. Put your life vest on.

I got you. One thing about it, I ain't gonna never see you wrong, because Jesus got this will. Check this out. Kevin Baker donated $50. He asked, who would make a better quarterback if y'all played? Me or Ocho? My money on Ocho, but I got a thing to learn.

I never underestimate them. Nah. Nah. You know don't do that. Don't you do that. Ocho, you I got a thing to learn. I never underestimate them. Nah. Nah. You know don't do that. Don't you do that. Ocho, you didn't play no quarterback. I was a quarterback in high school. I sat behind Samari Roll. Wait, this is crazy, crazy high school team.

Me, Samari Roll, Dwayne Starks, and Terry Cousins. I was a freshman. Dwayne was a quarterback and Samari was a receiver. When Dwayne Starks and Terry Cousins. I was a freshman. Dwayne was a quarterback and Samari was a receiver. When Dwayne left, Samari was a quarterback, then I was a receiver. When Samari Rowe left, I took over, and then I was a quarterback after Samari left. And y'all didn't win no one game.

Oh, no, we was good, man. Miami, Miami, BC, Miami beat Senior High. High tides. Did y'all go to playoffs? Yes, we did. Matter of fact, we lost in the playoffs when I was the quarterback that year. We lost.

I'll never forget. The night my grandfather got killed. 1994, my grandfather, James Neville Flowers, was shot and we were playing Highland Miami Lakes and we lost to Highland Miami Lakes. Remember Rohan Davey? Yeah. We lost to Rohan Davey at home.

Rohan Davey in the first round of the playoffs. I'll never forget. I'll never forget. And I always remember that because that was the night my grandfather, he never showed up to the game, and I couldn't understand why. And obviously when it ended, he had got killed that night. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, this is back in 94 too now. It's a long time ago. But yeah, man. You know, I look quarterback. I dabble, but I was a running back. I remember like I played all the positions that my brother played. I wanted to be like him, Mocho. So I was his backup.

He was a running back. I played running back. He was a part-time quarterback. I mean, he played quarterback until his senior year. He did his senior year the day before we supposed to have a Thursday night because back then we played Friday night games. until his senior year. He did his senior year the day before we supposed to have it, Thursday night, because back then we played Friday night games. He went to throw a pass and he hit his index finger on the helmet.

Ah. And he dislocated his finger so he played running back that year. But I just got tired of it. I didn't want to be a running back anymore because I got tired of hearing, my bad, Sharp. Mr. Block, my bad, Sharp.

I said, you know what? Let me get my ass from back here. I'm going to tight end. Can't nobody see my bad, Sharp. Mr. Block, my bad, Sharp. You know what? Let me get my ass from back here. I'm going to tight end. Can't nobody say my bad. Right. Because I'm way down the field. So I moved to tight end my senior year. But Kevin, I don't know.

You know what? I might get Ocho that. You ain't got no choice. There's really nothing that you are better than me at except playing tight end. I bet I'd knock your ass out of the game, though. I bet you I'd be in that. What you mean, like hidden? Yeah.

Man, I would have ran your ass over, man. Don't play at me like that, man. I'm built different, man. I'm built for it tough, man. Don't do that, man. Ocho, think about this. Ocho, you're a grown-ass man. Yeah.

And you weigh 175 pounds. Can you imagine what you think you weighed in high school? You just said, you said you would knock me out when we playing football. When I played football, I was 215, 220. Now, how you going to be 215 in high school and you 185? Oh, we talking about how I thought you made the league. Okay, okay. In high school, I was small.

I was a little freer. I would knock your ass out. Yeah, I was a little freer. I was a freer. I got knocked out a few times. Not literally out, but, you know. I would your ass out. Yeah, I was a little frail. I was a little frail. I got knocked out a few times. Not literally out, but, you know. I got knocked you out. I got right up.

Right back in they face. Ocho. I'll be back. You know what I did? I'd have hit you so hard at the top of your head, you'd have peeped out your ribs and thank you in jail.

No. That's what I... Ocho! Ocho! You'd have been looking around talking about, do Jack Rabbit Wear cowboy boots Listen

I'm built different man I don't see that No you're not Ocho No you're not Ocho I'm built different I don't see that Ocho you too frail It ain't about being too frail

It's about what's in here It's about what's in here I'm not that part of that I'm not that part of that I make you have a John Q moment I make you have a change of heart Never that If you have a John Q moment Fool with me Never that Never change of heart. Never that. If you have a John Q moment,

fool you with me. Never that. Never that. And you're not going to out-talk me on the field either. Oh, I'm talking to you. Oh, yeah. You're not going to out-talk me

on the field either. You're not going to talk me to death. See, I ain't going to do all that lip-spawn with you. Oh, I'm going to talk you to death. I'm going to talk you to death and then I'm going to run right by you. Man, listen.

I put that bow upside your dome a couple of times. I don't see it. I don't see it. Man, listen. I put that bow upside your dome a couple of times. I don't see it. I don't see it. Man, what you think everybody else try to do? I ain't see it.

I don't even see it. I don't even see you. I might. Well, I put that hand bone on you. You ain't the only one but I got an elbow too. I got an elbow too.

The little bony has elbows, man. Them bony elbows too. Those little bony ass elbows, man. Bony elbows hurt. Yeah, the bony elbows hurt. No, Ocho. Ocho, I done did something bad to you, Ocho. I done did something bad to you, Ocho. You see that?

You see that? What it is? Yeah, all right. 30, 30, 28 inch pythons. You see it? Ocho, you pulled a shirt up before you started working out. I mean, you got to get like two more months in. Then pull The shirt up Before you started Working out I mean you gotta Get like two more months

In Then pull the shirt up I can't I got a fight Coming up I told you About four shows Ago

I got a fight Coming up I said make sure You be there And you know Who you fighting Ojo Andre Ward

Oh lord No I'm serious I believe you You know You know You know when it Comes to boxing Soccer Oh, Lord. No, I'm serious. I believe you. You know when it comes to boxing, soccer, or football, I don't play around. You don't play boxing. I know. I'm doing an exhibition with Andre Ward.

Ocho. You know what my trunk's going to say, right? What? Nightcap. Uncle Ocho. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, nightcap on the front. Then obviously I had a tribute to my mama

that passed away two years ago. It's like my last fight. Yeah. And I'm not playing. I'm going to let Dre, I'm going to let Andre Ward tweet you tomorrow and he'll tell you, yeah, me and Ocho, we doing an exhibition.

I'm dead serious. I'm serious. Ocho. He just makes you there. I'm dead serious. I'm serious. Ocho. Just make sure you're there. I don't want to hear no excuses. I don't want to see nobody put no pain on you, Ocho. Then I'm going to have to jump in the ring. Ain't going to be no pain. These hands are very nice.

You will see what three, four years worth of work, you'll see what it looks like when it's on display. I'm not saying I ain't finna beat nobody up. It's just we finna get in there and thump. I like the thump. Thank you. Please

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We're going to choose five winners on Twitter and 40 winners on our YouTube page. Hey, baby. So, go ahead. What you want to say? Real just texted me about, why you calling out food like you don't eat soul food?

I know you do. Yeah, but she's saying, why she's saying I'm calling out my plate for Thanksgiving dinner? Because I'm thinking about regular soul food restaurant, but I'm thinking my plate would want to be a little different on Thanksgiving Day. What you putting in your collard greens? I'm going to see if you know what you're talking about. What you putting in your collard greens? Well, I don't cook no collard greens, man.

I don't cook no collard greens, but I'm not sure what collard greens in them. Real mama in town, she can cook no collard greens, but I'm not sure what's in them. I like... Real mama in town, she can cook no collard greens. What's going collard greens? What you like in them? I put turkey necks, pigtails. You know, I love pigtails. You can't have all that in there now. No, I'm just saying.

No, no, no. Which one? Which one of those you like the best? I don't like ham hocks in them. Probably in this order. I probably go turkey necks, pigtails, ham hocks. Okay. In that order.

Yeah. So you like the honey baked ham yeah man that honey honey baked nice the honey baked nice you know that thing I need to do too but I but I really know I really know ham guy so I normally bypass the ham yeah I Yeah. I do turkey dressing with, you know, the gravy. I do the yams. Collard greens, they got it, but mainly mac and cheese, cornbread.

Now, do you make multiple stops on Thanksgiving? Or you one of those, say, oh, I'm coming through and you be like, well, who cook? Well, I have somebody

preparing it for me. But I've really never been to someone else's house that's cooked Thanksgiving. You know, we always, everybody always came to my grandmother's house. And then when I got, when I was in the league, I was just, you know, I was by myself a lot of times. Oh, shit.

Damn. Lights done went off again. Hold on. I know. Cheap ass hotel glory glory hallelujah since I lay real real said Chad on nightcap Hallelujah Since I Laid

Real said Chad on Nightcap Show Naming Thanksgiving food Baby we don't eat stuff We eat dressing That's what I try to tell you Yes there's a difference

My bad My bad Well listen I don't be in the kitchen She be in the kitchen Her mama be in the kitchen All I do is eat I say

I know you couldn't cook When the food I Who cook Yep. I say... I know you couldn't cook. Ooh, cook. Yep. Oh, I could cook. I can't cook Thanksgiving dinner, but I can cook. I'd be cooking, but I'd be... What you cooking? What you cooking? Huh? What you cooking? Man, stir-fried rice. Goddamn stir-fried. Shrimp and pasta.

You talk about, man. Listen, I'd be in the house like Benny Hanna now. I'd be flipping shit in my hat. Ask Real. Ask her flipping shit in my hat. Ask Rell. Ask her. She in the chat. Rell, that's one thing I know about Rell. The one thing I know about Rell,

because there are a lot of women that be lying for their man. Rell ain't going to lie for you. Yeah. I know she ain't going to lie for me. Yeah, because that's why I know you ain't cook nothing. She'll tell you. She'll tell you. She'll tell you I can cook.

You probably been cooking toes. Nasty ass. Nah, nah, nah. I can't even believe it. That ain't nasty. You think I'm about to come to your house and drink out of any cup? Why?

Why you think? What you trying to say? For one, I use styrofoam I ain't even got glasses at home Okay Cause I ain't washing man dish Nah nah Give me the bottle

I want the bottle to myself I ain't gonna trust I can't even trust That you ain't putting Styrofoam cups back Just give me the bottle to myself Listen I don't

I don't have dishes at home I don't wash dishes I like styrofoam or paper plates. That's what I eat off of. Paper plates and solo cups. Yeah, I ain't got time. I ain't got time. You ain't finna run up my goddamn water bill

washing dishes. You got shit. I'm throwing that in the trash. Absolutely. Exactly. And I got plastic forks. Oh, me too. I got to get the bulk.

The bulk plastic fork Plastic fork, spoons, knives From Publix $20 Costco Oh, okay Well, hold on You ain't got no Publix

Y'all ain't got no Publix in LA, huh? I don't think so, no We got like Ralph's Okay, that's right, Ralph's Kroger Which is, yeah, Ralph's, Kroger What about Vons? Gelson's Vons, that's right, Ralph's. Kroger, which is, yeah, Ralph's, Kroger. What about Vons?

Vons, yeah. Listen, we got these, I don't know what it is about the cupcakes from Publix. Man. I just like that fried chicken from Publix. Oh, yeah. That fried chicken with wings. Wait, how you know about that? I'm from the South, Ojo. Okay, okay. Oh, that's right, that's right. What you know about that? I'm from the South, Ojo. Okay, okay.

Oh, that's right. That's right. What you know about Czech sodas? Them cheap. You get 20 of them for a dollar. You're goddamn right. I ain't like nobody great. I ain't like nobody great.

Nobody great. Okay, okay. We on the same page. We on the same page. Like when I go home, sometimes I go get me a Fanta. I like the grape or the orange, the Fanta.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, there we go. There we go. But you know what. I like the grape or the orange, the Fanta. Yeah. Okay, there we go. There we go. But you know what? I'm glad you're sticking to your roots, man. I like that. It's an old doctor.

She built like rail. Huh? She built like rail, an old doctor. Nah, nah. Nah, it's only one rail, boy. I'm looking for one that's better than an old swamp-raised posse. That's what I'm looking for. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I want one like raised possums. That's what I'm looking for. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

I want one like that right now. That's for real, Ocho. Hey, listen. I want a stacked up like dirty laundry in a dorm room. You know what I'm saying? When you was in college,

had a laundry pile up. That's what your boy looking for. Hey, listen. Boy, you got your blessing on your hand, man. Don't let it slip through your hand. Listen, sometimes... Okay, I'll be good on your hand, man. Don't let it slip through your hand. Okay, okay, okay. Sometimes...

Okay, I'll be good, I'll be good. What God does is he continues to... He gives you three chances. Tonight is chance number two. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Now, don't forsake him. Hey, you remember the movie Green Mile? Yeah.

I'll be good. I'll be good. I'll be good. I'll be good. I'll be good. Hey, Wild Bill funny with a little mouse, with a little mouse. Yeah. Hey, that was, that was a good, that was a good movie, man.

Goddamn John Coffey. Yeah, man. Guys, thank you for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. You've been unbelievable thus far. Only six weeks. I think we've been up six weeks out of pay for six weeks. And we're almost at $320,000.

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For you or your loved ones Thank you for tuning in To another episode of Nightcap And Ocho and I. I'm your favorite sports uncle. He's your favorite. Ocho Cinco. And we'll see you on Thursday night. Whoa, whoa. Where we going? We ain't even sing our song

to end the show. Okay, well, go ahead. What you got? Glory, glory. Glory, glory. You know the words, right? I know you know the words. It is now. You from the South. Basically, I just know the words, right? I know you know the words of this. Now, you from the South. Basically, I just know the chords like most everybody else know the chords. No, no.

Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Okay, let's go. Ahem. Glory, glory. Okay, let's go. Glory, glory, hallelujah. Why you call it the hallelujah? I lay my burdens down. Glory. I feel better. So much better.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me, let me, I'm enjoying it. I'm trying to get the lyrics. Yeah, I'm going to pull it up. Hold on, hold on. All right, all right, all right. That's my jam, man. I feel baby.

Yeah, see, glory, glory, hallelujah. That's only the chorus. Oh, I know you. You might want to just sing the chorus. We don't want to go through the whole song with you all day. Okay. There's only three lines of the chorus. Okay, let's go.

You ready? One, two. One, two, three. Glory, glory. Hallelujah. Since I laid my burdens down. Glory, glory. Hallelujah.

Since I laid my burdens down. Yeah. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap I'm your favorite sport talker Shannon Sharpe He's your favorite 85 champ Ocho Cinco Johnson Thank you ladies and gentlemen good night

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