Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: 49ers BEAT Chargers + Mendoza STRUGGLES in 2nd Preseason GAME + NFL FINES Cowboys & Saints $500K + Jimmy Johnson CHOSE VIOLENCE + Joe Burrow URGENT MESSAGE for Bengals

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the 49ers beating the Chargers, Fernando Mendoza struggles, NFL fines Cowboys & Saints, Jimmy Johnson choosing violence and Joe Burrow presses Bengals locker room! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction04:15 - 49ers beat Chargers16:50 - Raiders beat Texans30:28 - NFL fined the Cowboys and Saints $500k each for joint practice fight36:18 Jimmy Johnson woke up this morning and CHOSE VIOLENCE46:18 - Joe Burrow says it’s now or never for the Bengals (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The San Francisco 49th are putting the beating on the charges. Brock Purdy, Justin Herbert barely played. Matt Jones came in, 6 to 13, 89 yards, no touchdown. Chargers, Trey lands, 10 of 16. 49 who traded a ton of drive capital to move up to select him but it never panned out for him he's now in la after a stop in dallas 10 of 16 73 yards no touchdown oh cho what do you think tonight what do you think about the quarterback play i mean the quarterback play was okay um obviously the longer you do play the better your numbers will look i just don't really use the preseason as a measuring

stick to gauge how good you will be obviously for if i was a coach i'd use it just to see to make sure you don't make any middle errors. You know, how you play against pressure in some of these different situations, you know, down and distance, by position, you know, how well you do against opponents when it actually matters, when it's not practice, when the game speed is different, you know, how fast can you process information based on your respective position, you know, stuff like that, man, being able to read and adjust on the fly for defenders. But, I mean, for me, it's really, really hard to really give a fair assessment on not just the team in general, but players individually, you know, especially for your starters.

So, I mean, listen, if I was the graded, Joe, you know, from a scale of one to ten on both teams, I mean, I give it a six. I'm just going to be honest. I give it a six tonight. Hey. Joe, what do you think of? I kind of understand what Ocho coming from. I kind of agree with it. him. You know, for me, I thought the 49ers ran the ball well. They had some great, you know,

some pretty good quarterback play. But when I watched Tray Lance play, Uncle Ocho, I mean, because I'm looking at the backups because they get an opportunity because we still evaluating at this point. Yes. I thought Tray Lance was great in using his legs and getting out there. He had some great throws, bro. He looked like he could be, you know, a special type of player. But for whatever reason, it just hadn't really panned out for him. But it's good to see him get out there and make and throws, uses legs to make plays and extend plays. But outside of that, it's hard to really make a huge assessment. I mean, we don't really have a lot of the starters playing,

a lot of the key guys who are going to be taking up all the minutes. Right now, we got guys still trying to make the team. Yeah. Yeah. I think the thing is, people forget that Mack Jones led a team to the playoffs, his rookie year. Yeah, an outstanding rookie year made the Pro Bowl, obviously. Things happened.

Josh McDaniel ends up leaving and taking the job at the Raiders. Now they bring in two head coach, two former coordinators that's never been an offensive coordinator. One's been a defensive coordinator. The other was a tight end, not a tight end, special teams coach. So that was unfamiliar territory for them. And I don't think it set Matt Jones up for success. And he was never the same after that. They ended up benching him and going back to, you know, Bailey Zappy and back and forth.

And eventually Bailey Zappy ended up keeping the job. But I thought, you know, he did some of the things that, you know, he had a job. drop. Yeah. But Martinez, I thought Martinez, Martinez made some throws. Yeah. That in the NFL, that dark did he throw in that,

that, that, that, that bang, Ocho for that touchdown. Yeah, that's an NFL throw. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. He missed because he had it early and the guy dropped it. Mm-hmm. And then he came back and he threw it on the other side.

He got a four touchdown. Yeah. So that, uh, uh, uh, Ungolaley, um, he spent like 12 years in college. So, you know, he should have, you know, he should be a college professor instead of playing in the NFL. Trey Lance, look, I think the thing is that, the expectations.

When you, I don't think he did himself any favors. You remember, Ocho, he had that one great year at North Dakota State. Yes. Then COVID happened. He sits out that entire season, and then he comes out in the draft. So he only played like 15, 16 games. Yes, sir. That's not a whole lot.

Now, everybody said, well, Cam Newton only played like 15 games. Yeah, but come on now. One guy's playing in the SEC with all top flight competition, and the other guys played in FCS, bold subdivision. And I think the thing is now the weight and the expectations, he's not thought of as being a savior. When they trade the draft capital that they traded to get this young man, you already know.

And it's already pressure on, especially a quarterback. There's always pressure on the first round draft pick. There's exponentially more pressure when they trade that level of draft capital, Ocho, they zoom up the draft to take you third. Yeah. What? And the success that Kyle Chedanahan had had with some of the quarterbacks that didn't have the name, you know, some of them guys were free agents. And so I just thought that was a little bit, a bit much for him.

Justin Herbert didn't play much, Brock Purdy was four or six or 29 yards. Look, when you only got three quarterbacks, they're going to be, you know, three quarterbacks on the team. I think Martinez, his arm talent is just unbut not. Man, if Matt Jones had a Martinez arm, because his accuracy is crazy. You remember what he was in Alabama when he had those weapons around him? He was insane. He was phenomenal. Yes.

Now, he did have, you know, you look what he had around him. He had Devonte Smith. He had Waddle. He had the running back. Naji Harris in the back. They were loaded. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold up. He held the fork up last year when Purdy was out, though. Oh, yeah. That's why they gave a little extra money to stay. He probably could, yeah. It was sometimes look at what Sam Donald did. with rehabilitated himself yes go get a double job boom look at daniel jones what did he do go rehabilitated himself go get him another job yeah mac jones says you know what i like this

brock purdy was in the four at the 49ers played that one game showed enough goes to minnesota did what he did in minnesota goes to the uh uh uh the seahawks wins the super bowl so i agree with you guys it's really hard to tell but i'm just looking i'm just looking at that did you not, don't play down. Right. Even though that is those are the backup guys and we know some of these guys are not gonna be on the team, I don't want you to play down to the level of the competition.

I want you to play up, play above the competition. Yes. And I thought some of the throws that Martinez made, yeah, he made a horrible throw, got a pick six, he had two interceptions, but some of the throws that, you know, I'm looking more at some of the throws that he made. I think we can coach him up and say, look, son, you can't, you can't throw that.

I mean, you telegraphed that. That dude saw that coming yesterday. Oh, yeah. And he was just waiting on it. Yeah. He was waiting on that. 49ers was sensational. They had Sincera McCormick,

Khalil Herbert, and Adrian Martinez. I think that's the guy. He went to Nebraska, if I'm not mistaken. I think he played at Nebraska. Didn't he play in Nebraska, Ash? Angel Martinez. 41 to 17, 49, 49. Look.

Okay. Okay. Okay. He started at Nebraska and then went to Kansas State, right? Okay. Okay. I thought that name, that name familiar. Look, I think the 49th is going to be there.

Look, they get Bosa back. They get their leader back. Fred Warner. The thing that concerns me about them, Ocho, is the secondary. And that's kind of been that, and maybe the secondary was a little out of it because they couldn't generate the pressure than they once could when they had boston, they had those letter floors, and they had those guys outside like that,

and Buck, a buck that ended up, he's at the Colts now. But if they can generate, if they can get some pressure and not have to tax that secondary, I think our fiscal, you know Kyle Shanahan can dial it up. He's going to be able to dial it up.

And I think it's going to be interesting to see what the charges, what they're going to be able to do with the running game. They should be able to run the ball. I like the guy they had last year. I think it's blue. Defensively, they're going to be good. They're going to be good again. Harbaugh, you want to think about Harbaugh.

You know he's a coach that like physicality. They believe he's been playing physical brand of football. I believe they'll play that brand of football again. But this is not an easy division that they're in. You got Bowneggs, Pat, Mahon boy comes back. Yeah. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how these two teams fair. But I can see, I can see both teams making the playoffs.

I would not be surprised if both teams make the playoffs. What do you think? You think so? Yeah, I can see both teams making it. I mean, I can, hmm. Because both, I believe both teams go get exemplary quarterback play. Yeah. Without that you ain't got no chance at the place.

Yeah, well, without that you don't have a chance, but also, I mean, can the 49ers stay healthy? And I'm speaking defensively and offensively. That's been one of their issues, you know, throughout the years. You know, a lot of people complaining about, you know, what's next to the practice facility. and maybe that is some indication on why players continue to get hurt there. But listen, they're on grass right now, they're not on turf.

And players are still dropping like flies, which is unfortunate. I know injuries are a part of the game, but at some point we have to, you know, get a little bit more realistic with ourselves. You know, it just happens. And it happens at the most unopportune times. It's unfortunate, but I think for them to have success this year,

they're going to have to stay injury-free. Hey, hold on. the defensive side of the ball. Hold on. So these teams, the 49ers don't typically play on grass, Uncle Ocho? Yeah. Yeah, they do. Don't they?

Do they? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Joe, I'm just speaking in general, if you look around the league, I don't know looks like, but just the number of injuries, you know, during training camp. And everybody is on grass in training camp. Okay. I see you just saying.

Yeah, so, you know, that's all. But I'm saying, is it such, is it a huge? difference though from playing on grass and playing on turf i think i mean you know it Shannon i mean Shannon would be would be better at addressing that uh joe because for someone like myself that played on turf the majority of my career in cincinnati having one i think maybe one year uh unc i think when i was with dick leboe dick leboe we had grass at that time and then they and then they changed it but i i didn't really care joe the surfers were really no concern of mine So, I mean, Uncle would be better suited to answer that question.

For me, Joe, it is because grass is more forgiving. Obviously, now you see a lot of these non-contact injuries. And I don't know what's the rise of the non-contact. I don't remember when I played. And maybe it's kind of like a lot of things. They track more things now than they did when we played, Ocho. They track everything. When you got injured, what time of day you got injured,

what type of field you were on? Was it artificial turf? Was it, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the field turf, was it natural grass? The 49ers do, their home stadium is natural grass. And you can have natural grass. For the most part, the weather is ideal in California. Now, you're going to get some rain.

And so I don't know how many, I don't think they have any college games in that stadium, maybe a bowl game, something like that. But I don't know how much tractor pools and things of that nature they have that's also wearing on the turf that you have to worry about. But in New York,

It's kind of hard. It's a lot of maintenance when you have natural grass because you have to have that heating. You have to have heaters in there. You have a lot of stuff to make sure that everything is come game day, it's ready to go. For me, I think it is, Joe.

I know it is artificial turf. Now, everybody, nobody has artificial turf. Now, everybody plays on field turf or they play on natural grass. They've done away completely, if I'm not mistaken, with all artificial turf on all 32 teams. But they used to be,

because it was, It was just concrete. It was just, you know, a carpet laid over concrete. It was hard. And I don't know how Barry needs held up the way they did playing on that when he was in the dome. But for me, I think it is. I do think it is a big difference between playing on grass, field turf and artificial turf. Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore.

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throwing an intercession that he used to return for a touchdown. Mendoza's third pass was overthrown, Wade Woodass, returned at 80 yards Mendoza chased him down, but what a shell aside, and end up getting into the end zone for 80-yard pick six. Mendoza in the first half, eight or 15 for 86 yards.

Me? Yeah. Look, I understand the interception. Ocho, you know this. You can't be laid over the middle. You can't be laid outside. Because those guys, that's going to the house. Every time.

A high rate of speed. Every time. So he's going to the house with that. But he made some throws then I would say, okay, he has it. Yeah. He made some throws that leads me to believe, I'm not overly concerned about him.

No. I know it didn't have the best numbers tonight, but he showed me enough in the throes that he did make. I was like, okay. You know what? And that's what to come down to, Uncle Joe, when you see a young player, Joe, sometimes, most of the time you can see a young player on the court,

you know, especially when it's live with some of the veterans trying to make a team, and you can see Flash, of okay he actually belongs here now what you're also going to see when it comes to a rookie so you're going to see those mistakes and that's what you saw from mendoza's night obviously you know he has the arm talent he can make some of the throws the problem is it comes down the ball placement it comes down to anticipating those throws and it also comes down to processing and understanding that ball has to get out a step sooner yeah a tad bit sooner and he will learn that as time goes on

and he will speed everything up you know to be able to rectify those situations I mean, those errors that he had tonight. But he's going to be one of them ones. This is why I'm always against on letting the rookie come in and start, especially on the team that was so bad. They were so bad last year where they had the ability to get the number one pick.

Unless he's lights above everyone else at his respective position. Now, if he was Patrick Mahomes, you know what? Boom, cool. Start him as a rookie. You know, because he has the talent and he has the vision, the ability. the process, everything much faster

and make the players around him better. You know? If he was one of them, yes, but no. Yes, especially if he has the talent around him to support him. You got to realize even though Patrick Mahomes came in, my home boy didn't start. Yeah, no, yeah. Yeah, Alex Smith.

Think about they had Kelsey. They had a reek that was still there. Yeah. So with that being said, I think the thing is, I agree with you, Ocho. Joe, what do you want to say about, about what you saw from Fernando Mendoza. Man, I like Mendoza.

You know, okay, oh, Joe, this is the kind of preseason game where, you know, it's a learning curve for all these rookies, bro. He shows some great throws, but when you look at it,

it's a huge contrast from his first preseason game to the second one. See, the first one he played against the Cardinals. They don't have to pass for us the type of defense that the Houston takes the D boys,

he ain't playing. Huh? They're getting right after you. So, I think Mendoza is going to be great. I'm like you. After he threw that pick, he showed me something because he stepped right back in there and get right back to it, bro.

And that's what you want to see from a rookie. I think a pick six is probably one of the worst things that can happen to you as a rookie. Demoralizing, boy. You know why, though? Not only do you throw the pick six, but you get the damn ball right back. You know what I mean? So you got to get back out there and get right to it. But I thought he showed some promise.

The Texans, hey, man, if C.J. Strau can stay up. right fellas, he can give them some just some decent quarterback play. Hey. Hey, boy, they're in there. Hey, honestly, Uncle Joe, speaking to the Texans, they have a window. That window was wide open last year. If they could just got some quarterback play, Joe, I think defensively, they might have been ranked second or third in almost every single category, every single category, which means

all we needed was a little bit of, you know, decency offensively from our quarterback. And boy, if you had had a chance to get to the Super Bowl, you would have been all right. Yeah. Hey. And Joe, that last game in the playoffs, what they had? Four, five turnovers? Yeah.

It was bad, Ocho. We had like three in the first half. O'F. It was bad. And when I think it was a pick six. You can't turn the ball over like that. You can't win like that. It's hard for you to over, it's hard no matter how great your defense is.

No matter how great one side of the ball is. Yeah. The other side is inept as you are good. It's kind of hard now. Once upon a time, you could have a bad offense and an outstanding defense and you could overcome it. It's always been hard for you to overcome a bad defense even if you had a really great offense.

Because when you least expect that, you know, somebody, you struggle just a little bit and you can't stop anybody and now the opposing team is going up and down the field on you. So it's always. kind of been skewed, well, we need to have an outstanding defense and we can have a marginally. If we can run the football, play defense behind it, be sound in the kicking game, we'll be just fine. That ain't no more. Since they've changed the rules, they don't let you play defense with an intimidation factor

like they once did. That rule no longer holds. But CJ's going to have to be better. CJ's going into its fourth year. Normally quarterbacks, when they're sure about you going into your fourth year, you know what you get, Joe? 300 million. Yes, sir.

The mere fact that he's playing this fourth year and he doesn't, they're not where they need to be on him. They're like, okay, we like what we saw the first year. We love what we saw the first year. The second year, the third year, like, yeah. You got to show us something. You're going to show us something, CJ, in order for us to commit to you, the $300 million that you see these other quarterback,

the Mahones, the Josh Allen, the Joe Burroughs, the Trevor Lawrence's, is you're going to have to show, you're going to have to show us. Yeah. That's a lot of, because they got big time commitments. The defense, you know, they paid Will Anderson. Will Anderson, Jr. Yeah. They played the other guy on the other side.

DeNeil Hunter. Yep. They played Stingley. Stingley. They played Lazer to Pete. They paid a lot of guys. Yeah. Hey, he not only got to show some.

He got to show consistency, fellas. Yes. They, they need consistent. not just, you know, you play great one game and then two games, you're off. You know what I mean? Like, they need that consistent quarterback player. I'm talking about to be able to win a Super Bowl. Like, they have the defense for it.

They just got to get the quarterback play right, bro. Hey, Houston serious, bro. Yeah, and they got all the weapon, too. They got all the way. I know they just lost Higgins, you know, to an ACL injury. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure if they were bringing another veteran presence to come in there and maybe feel that void because Higgins was a very strong.

Number two, he came on really strong towards the end of the season last year. So, you know, you got Tank Dale back, who's looked good all camp. Obviously, Nico Collins, one of the better receivers in the NFL. So there really shouldn't be any excuses. You got David Montgomery out there, you know, out there in the backfield now from Detroit to take some of that pressure off for you, you know, being able to run the ball. So you got to sit back there and throw it 60 times a game. So it ain't no excuses.

This is their year. Can you, can you be consistent? not only that, but be consistent when it matters most. Right. All the top quarterbacks, they're paying the big bucks for a reason because when it matters most, they can get us over to hump. Yeah. Hey, hey, y'all ain't going to go, uh, yeah, Mendoza's going to be a right

because y'all know he got a decent run game. Y'all ain't going to say nothing about Mike Washington Jr. breaking. He had 56 yards, nine carries. He broke it. He played well, yeah. He played well the first game. Hey, Joe, that number 30?

Is he number 30? I think he is number 30. Mike running back. Yeah. Number 30. Yeah. Yeah. That boy told him.

How you know him, Joe Woody for Arkansas? Yeah, he's a hog, man. He's a hog, you know, it ain't but a few hours, Ocho, so we got to keep up with him, make sure they, you know what they're supposed to be doing. But he got doing his thing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. And they got Rike's brother. That's Rike Agu Mulele. Yeah. That's a brother. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Okay.

But Houston running the football with Woody Moore. Marks, you know, as Ocho mentioned, they got David Montgomery. Hutchinson played well for him last year, played well for him last year. So I'm not overly concerned about the skill position around CJ. I just worried about CJ. I just need CJ to play like he did his rookie season. But sometimes I think he started reading the press.

I think because we hadn't seen a rookie played that well because he was phenomenal. There ain't no ifs and a bust about it, no maybes. He played phenomenal. And I think he started listening to the press, started reading, we say press clippings, but he started listening to social media. Everybody was telling him how great he was. And he started to feel like he was great.

Because here he is in this second year, you're telling, hey, if you need to think, hey, holl at your boy, you know, I got you. Huh? Hey, he thought they had to figure out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, boy, this game will humble you. Just when you think it's figured out, you got to pick it out.

Quick. Okay. Quick. Yeah. Every week is a different challenge, Joe. every week it's a different chapter. I can imagine, bro. I think especially from being a quarterback

because you're going to see so many different coverages and looks and you got to identify them and be able to process them on the fly and be able to make play. I know that's tough, bro. Yeah. You got a lot on your plate. You got a lot on your plate. And because you have the ball

on every single play for the most part that nobody really does the Wildcat. Every once in a while they'll bring somebody in there to do a quarterback sneak or something like that. But for the most part of 65 players, you're going to probably have the ball in your hand somewhere between 63 and 64 times the ball game. And so the light shines the brightest on you. You, yeah.

That's why you make the big bucks. There ain't no, well, I wonder why he makes so much money because he's under the most scrutiny. He's under the most pressure. In office, it's like, you can tell who's in charge. I can go in an office and I take everything down off the wall. I'm like, oh, he got the biggest office. Whoever's in here, that's who's in charge.

Yeah. Okay, who has the ball the most in their hands? That's who has the most responsibility. Yeah. Okay. This is why they pay him the big bucks. Yeah. Hey, and whoever's in charge and has the ball in the hands the most,

has a better chance to dictate the outcome of games. Absolutely. And that's where they get the big bucks. Yes, yes. But, look, he's heard everything. I mean, he, think about the Ocho, Joe, man, that man heard that man heard of knowing so much, that man cut his hair.

Yeah. Thanks. That man cut his hair, Joe, Ocho? Yeah. I'm surprised that he didn't pull an Ocho and cut it all off. No, he might have been going for, you know, a new look, you know, cleaning itself up as a face of the franchise, you know, give him, give him something else to look at.

He just needs to play better. Okay, what your hair looked like. You can have dread, you can have predator dread. Hey, hey, mate, man. Okay, I don't know about your hair. It used to be the quarterback, he had to present himself and had to look at Sir Wailcho, you know what I'm saying? I don't care nothing about that.

Hey. Can you get us in and out of the huddle? Can you process information in a hurry? Can you deliver the football? Yes. That's all I care about. All that other stuff, how you look and how you talk and all that, that's going to, you know, if advertisers and sponsors, they might have a problem with that.

I don't. That's secondary. That's auxiliary to me. Your number one goal as a quarterback is to help us win football game. Now, if advertisers and endorsers and sponsors and all that other stuff come along, bless your heart.

But just make sure you get us in and out of the huddle in a timely manner. Make sure you to deliver the football in a timely manner. Yes. That's all I care about. I don't care about that. I really don't.

But CJ did. he had one drive, they got that went down the field, got a touchdown, he got up out of there, David Mills comes in, Davis Mills plays really well. Remember Davis Mills played well

when CJ went out. When he went down, he had a good five, he had a good five, six games stretch, boy. And then Brett Rippet, he ended up a, uh,

feeling coming in. He's, but he's played before. He was in Denver. Uh, I think he went to sit. Uh, maybe,

I don't know where he went out if he left Denver. But he played with, he could, he could make some plays. Hopefully I don't have to get to my third. If I got to get to my third quarterback, I'm in trouble, Ocho. Yes, sir.

I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. Ain't no sense of me holding you. If I have to get to, if I have to get to my third quarterback, I'm in trouble. Yeah. Hey, them injuries go to powering up here.

You never know, Ocho. Hey, it's tough, man. Listen, the more those injuries pile up, the more difficult it is on the coaches. Because, literally, you're two and you're three for a reason. The NFL firing Cowboys and say it's $500,000 eat for what it called actions that took place in the joint practice between the teams earlier this week. The competition committee has made sportsmanship, including at joint practices, a point of emphasis over the past several years.

All clubs were reminded by a memo prior to training camp of their responsibilities and preventing unsportsmanlike behavior at joint practices that had the potential to result in injuries. But anyway, Jerry Jones said the Cowboys will internally find. players they deemed responsible for the 500,000 organizational fine handed down by the NFL. I don't that's not what the NFL intended that to do what they found a team did you try to go back then like when you started it you started it but I'm going to go to you Joe first because this is your team you say hey we we read it this year yeah hey man listen ain't nothing but a little broad but I kind of understand what you know I don't want to say I understand what j is coming from Jared just doubling down here.

You know, he felt like it probably wasn't any of the key guys. So you know what I'm saying? So you kind of got to make a point for these guys who just joining the team or whatnot. I don't know. But, hey, man, he obviously didn't take too liking of it. But the NFL say, damn, we're going to crack down on this. We're going to stop all this. But how do you stop that?

Man, it's a gladiator sport. Okay, Ocho, we lock it up every damn play. Hey, Joe, what you mean? How are you going to stop it? They showed you how they're going to stop it. We're going to take the one thing that they think. we all value most. Your money.

You hit somebody pocket, Joe. What's the first thing they do? They get in line. They get in line. That's including the owners. And the owners are going to get that message down. It's going to trickle down from the top. Hey, get your players together because now you're costing me.

Now, if anybody do anything outside of that and they do it again after we already told them, okay, we're taking their money. And once they, once they instill that, man, the boys ain't going to do nothing, Joe. Man, they catch. They care too much by that check. They love $500. They ain't done nothing to them damn owner's pocket, man. Man, you know how much that is.

to them? What is it, what is $500, $100,000 to our owner, right? Nothing. But see, the thing is,

they creepy, and then, because see, what's going to happen, you're going to mess right and get somebody, somebody's best, one of their best players.

Go ahead and say, to break a hand or something going to happen, and that, uh-oh, ain't going to help you. Because I'm, I'm a firm believer.

Player get injured, do something cheap. Whoever, he got to miss, he got to miss as much time until that guy comes back, you out. Until my guy comes back,

They got injured. They got something to happen to him, Joe. Right. That's how long you got to sit out. And you'll stop that foolishness. I'm not surprised by this. It's not a good look, but the NFL is about optics. The NFL is very reactionary.

Yes. They're not normally proactive. They'll listen to the voices of social media and everybody on the outside. They hear what they're saying, and then they'll react to that. you see hey bro this ain't been going on uh the dolphins and somebody got into a fight today oh yeah yeah yeah but you know well hold it's one thing though uncle joe you got to remember that saints cowboy's practice it was like five or six braws so i think that's why the nflbara stepped in because they had so many in one joint practice now the dolphins the dolphins had a bro

they just had one big one exactly yeah but having five or six now that's diabolical hey hold a hull, hull, hull up. You can't determine. Now, just because one team had five brawes and one head one, hell, you don't find a, you got a five hundred five of the piece. Yeah, yeah. You got a, Hey, Joe, the boys only out there on the field for an hour, hour and 20 minutes.

Hey, if you got five brawls, that mean, you know, I mean, shoot, that's a, a brawl every, every, uh, what'd you call it, not session. What'd you call it? Seven on seven. Basically, basically, because you out there, you got five, so basically damn there every other period, you fight. Yeah, that's what they have. Hey, hey, you can't, you can't get nothing done out there.

No, because that's exactly what coach is going to be saying. Damn, what are we going to get done today? Are we going to be able to get anything done today? Mm-mm. You don't get nothing to them, but we know who can fight. Exactly. And that ain't going to help us on Sunday. You're on the wrong sports, son.

You need to be in the MMA or you need to be a boxing. Yeah. But we play football out here. But you know, sometimes guys fight and we want to get out of practice. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. They do it out, they carried off the field? No, do you get out of practice? No, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anything done with you out here fighting so they get to the shower. Oh yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So I know, I know y'all got guys who, because I know I'd have had this happen to plenty of times on teams, I don't play the war.

Guy come in, maybe he'll look too drunk. He'd be like, Jay, I ain't got it today. I'm gonna act a fool, let coach go and throw me out this this mug so I can go on hit the shower. Nah, we... Nah, hell, nah. Yeah, we had that. I'm trying to think,

maybe once or twice we had guys get kicked out of practice for fighting, but they really didn't like each other anyway. They were just looking for a little reason to talk. A little leeway. Yeah, they're talking about, hey, don't block me.

Bro, you're a D-Live, but I'm an officer life. What the hell you mean? Don't block you. What the hell I'm supposed to do? Let you just come in here and wreck practice? Hey, Lizzie.

No, but... See, the difference is, in basketball. See, the way we start practice, Uncle Ocho, we start with so much damn running. Three-man weave, you know what I mean? Got to make a certain amount of shots. So we're doing, we just like this, the whole practice.

Boy, dude will pull up quick, talking about his knee, his ankle, his back. Ain't nothing wrong with him. Just to go to locker room and sit down. I'm telling you. Yeah. I haven't seen it. An I-Heart Radio Experience.

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Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jimmy Johnson woke up this morning and chose violence. He posted a picture of a photo of a clause in his first contract with Jared Jones referencing personnel control. Jerry, you know, Jerry been saying it was him into Hershal Walker. It was him doing all this. Y'all can read the contract. Wait, he really put. No assistant football coaches, trainer, equipment man.

and strength coach shall be fired or employed by employer without prior approval of Johnson. Johnson shall have the right of prior approval with respects to acquisitions, releasing and trading all football players of the Dallas Cowboys. Johnson shall have complete control of all assistant coaches, players, trainers, and equipment men during training, practice, preparation for actual playing of games, notwithstanding the foregoing of neither assistant coaches, players. I have a question, huh? What made Jimmy Johnson do this?

Because Jerry Jones keeps saying it was him that made the trade for Hershal Walker. He keeps saying it. Jimmy said, I had final say this is why Jerry ultimately, Jim, Jerry ultimately fired Jerry. Right. Because Jimmy had complete autonomy. He, and he. Hold on. I thought they, I thought they, huh?

I thought they settled their differences with the ring of honor stuff. No, because Jerry. won't keep saying it was him. He keeps saying the trade that he made for Hershal Walker, that he traded Hershal Walker. Jimmy made that trade. Because see, if you let it, see, here's the thing. This is what we know.

A fire cannot burn without oxygen. If people keep talking, if Jerry keep his mouth shut, Jimmy, Jimmy not going to let it go. Yeah. All Jimmy had to do was toast Jerry. That's all they had to do. Right. But first of all, he wasn't.

them invited to the party. Mm-hmm. That was the coaches. Jimmy invited the coaches. Jerry invited himself. Cheers. Everybody toasted. Jimmy mean mugging.

That's how it started. Well, that's ego. That's ego and pride. That's ego and pride. Jerry Nike. Oh, Joe, you were really young, but you don't realize how much credit. Jimmy was thought of as Lombardi.

Yeah. Of Walsh. For real? Yes. That team was 1 and 15. Think about it. He took Troy Aikman. Michael Urban was already there.

So Michael came in 88. He came in the draft with my brother and Tim Brown. All those receivers came out that year. But then he goes get Emmett. Then he gets Russell Maryland. All those guys that were coming out, Jimmy had just left the University of Miami. He tried to recruit him.

He knew what he needed. Right. All his coaches that came from the U.S. Harold Hubbard and Wonstadt, all those guys. Hey, Dave Wonstadt was there? Day Wonstead was there? Yeah, they want to, yeah. I ain't know that.

Okay. See, Jimmy, I think Wonstadt might've been with Jimmy when Jimmy was in Pitt, at Pitt. All them guys. So Jerry keeps saying, because see, Jerry keep trying to reshape history. Jerry wants credit for that. That's why he keeps saying.

Remember he had the, the micro trade reminds me of the trade out there for her. And Jimmy like, you didn't make that trade for hers. I traded Herschel. I realized, yes, he was good, but he wasn't going to help us. We needed something long term. So that's why Jimmy, Jimmy went and got the contract. Jimmy said, look at it.

What does that say? Oh, you think they said, uh, at Oklahoma State. But, uh, he had his contract. So all this, all this notion, see, Jerry, Jerry, when he came into the league, the person that he learned to be an owner was Al Davis. This is how Al was. Al would have never gave nobody that kind of control.

Absolutely not. And he don't care, he don't care what nobody to say about now. Man, I told you the man fired Mike and went paying the rest of his money. You know the money guarantee. He said, I tell you what, I pay you. But you can't go coach for the Broncos. No, he said, as a matter of fact, I just ain't going to pay you.

And he said by the time you take me to court, you'll be spent more money than what I owe you. So take me to court. Damn. Yeah. Rested soul. But every time, if he liked you, every time he come up to you, he'd say you,

you want to be a raider? But that was, because when I first got to the league, They were playing in the Coliseum in L.A. Well, yeah, were USC played. Yes, yes, they were in the Coliseum. And all those like James Garner, Rockford Fowl, all the celebs, and they would have on Silver and Black.

Yeah. Just like Al Davis. Al normally, Al always were white. But the celebs would have on Silver and Black, they were diehard Raider fans. And standing out in the tunnel and, man, I remember when I came when came, and those, the Raider Reds,

I was like, oh my, I'm in the NFL. I'm like, man, I'd have made it. And you see the celebs standing in the tunnel and that's like, damn. And all the old guards, you see Willie Brown and you see Jack Tatum and you see Tendrix and you see all those old raiders. You're like, damn.

That would have been dope. Okay. Okay, this is pretty cool here. But Jimmy, like you said, Ocho, both of these guys have. egos. Both of these guys, do you realize, Ocho, they were college roommates? In Arkansas? Yes.

Yeah. Wait a minute. How the hell even get this bad, nah? Yeah. They were college roommates because Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones, the Jays. Yeah. It wasn't like they chose to be roommates. Their last name put them at.

Yeah. It's like Chad Johnson and Joe Johnson. There's a good chance you guys going to be roommates. There's a good chance. you're gonna have that influence on Joe, and we already know how Ocho get down pretty soon, that's what Joe is. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Behind closed doors, don't nobody knows what it. Hey, hey, hey, I've been to who up your ass we're in the same damn room. Damn, backdo, Joe, why you gonna, damn, why you, why you, why you gonna be violent? Hey, you got chill. Hey, you got chill. Damn, back, though, why you gonna be violent?

Hey, Joe, hey, I come in peace. Joe, I come in peace, Joe. Yeah, I come in peace, Joe. Hey, Ocho, Ocho, we won't be fighting, but let me tell you what we will be doing. What? Well, we would have mean dice game going, because let me tell you something,

when I was in college, the dice games was in my room, Ocho. Yeah. The dice games was in my room, me and my roommate, boy, we, hey, we held down the mean dice games, what? Y'all play with two dice. No, we play with two dice. No, we play with two dice.

I don't know what you're talking about no silo. Say, hey, I ain't come up with all that. I ain't come up on a silo like that either, though. No, no. Yeah, give them two dice. Okay. Yes. I'm just checking.

Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, I, I, you would think, man, everybody knows Jerry, Jimmy should have been in the ring of fame. Hold on.

Oh, the Dallas, the Dallas ring. They put him in there a couple of years ago, but he should have been in there. Yeah. Right. Behind Tom Landry,

he's the greatest coach the Cowboys have ever had. Man, come on, man. Y'all know Jerry. Hey, y'all know how Jerry. See, Jerry thought it was him. He realized,

now he started to realize coaching his, it matters. Yeah, absolutely. Does he? You think he realized it now? No, hell not. Hell no, he don't.

Because he hasn't changed. He hadn't changed. He hasn't changed. Hey, Joe, that's your owner though. Hey, that's our owner, bro. Listen, he the GM, the owner, he, the damn coach, he all at. They ain't meant. They meant to put nobody in charge who he thinks going to overrule or try to override anything he got to say or do, partner.

No, he wants the credit. We got to get the credit, huh? That's what that's what. he won't joke. See, the thing was, man, ain't nobody was mentioning Jerry Jones. Everybody was talking about Jimmy. Everybody was talking about Jimmy. Jimmy got there a year before I arrived. Jimmy got there in 89 with Troy.

They drafted Troy in 89. I came in the league in 90, and I saw the rise of how they, what they came to be. And had he left well enough alone, had he had the smarts that Mr. Kraub had. Y'all don't think Mr. Kraft, there are some things that probably Coach Belichick said and did that rubbed Mr. Kraft the wrong way up. Absolutely. But he's smart enough to understand. Let me ride this train as far as it can go.

And as far as it could go with six Super Bowl with nine Super Bowl appearances. That's crazy. Imagine if they went all nine. Lord, have mercy, old chill. Boy, special. But that's the thing. Jerry, Jerry just couldn't let it go. I want to get the credit.

you don't realize how good something can be. Until it's gone. Who gets the credit? Yeah, yeah, that too. That too. Lo, you don't care who gets the credit, Ocho? Yeah. Jerry wanted it.

Jimmy said, nah, let me go ahead and say. Now you see what happened. Uh-oh, Ocho, y'all in trouble. Who? Joe Burrow spoke to the media today and said, it's now or never for the Bengals. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. I'm trying to put it out.

I'm trying to put it out into the world. I'm trying to manifest it. I'm trying to show our guys. the urgency that I have and that I want us to have as an organization to go and make it happen, you know, you can keep pushing it down the road or you can talk about it now and say this is the year. And, you know, I'm tired of saying next year, next year, next year, this is it. You know, your life is too short to keep pushing things down the road. And I'm trying to instill some urgency and some intensity in everybody to,

go and get be great every day and try to go make it happen. I like that. That can be that can be taking many ways too, Unk. I'm going to take it as a way for one is as I think how you would look at it. Like, listen, organizationally, this is the warning.

This is the warning. And he said it last year too when he was frustrated as well. Something similar to this, but the words were a little different. But words have meaning always. It's like it's like a puzzle. sometimes you've got to piece together what players are trying to say what he can also be doing is motivating those in that locker room not only offensive but defensively he can be doing that

and to take it a step further he's also adding more fuel to the fire on himself as well yeah because of the injuries you know so now as much as i love joe burrow that's my quarterback joe that's my quarterback unc but now not only are you adding more fuel to the fire now you have to play up the park consistently week in and week out. Yes, you're going to have mistakes. Yes, you're going to have errors. You know, it's a part of the game. But you have to play up and beyond

week in and week out and be the reasons why we're winning games, which you have been in the past, you know, along with the supporting cast that you do have. But I think the continuous, it's not lashing out, it's just expressing yourself and answering questions that are asked to you through the media is it adds more pressure,

unnecessary pressure, not on just the team in general, because that pressure is already there no matter what, but also yourself. Because anytime you don't play well, anytime you don't play up the par, they're going to go right back to these videos and some of the things that are said. Well, you said this, but you're playing like that.

Yep. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, you play with a quarterback that says, you know what, I'm tired of y'all. Y'all won't do right. I refuse to play here anymore. Hey, hey, Joe, he retired. He said he refused to come back and retire, Joe.

Come on Carson, former? Yeah, what? Carson, yeah, until they gave. How's it? How's it? Yeah, they traded. Yeah, until they traded him. He refused to come back.

Yeah. Yeah, Joe, we're bad. Joe, you thought I would line when I said, I only had one winter season? No, I know he got to be bad. Hey, hey, Joe Burrow, he's sick of losing, bro. He wants his team to reach his expectations. He understands that, you know, they have a small window with their wide receiver

and court that he has out there. He won't try to make the most of it, bro. I can kind of, I can see the frustration in his face. I can hear it in his voice. He wants to win, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. He's tired of talking about it. Hell, hell, I want to win too, Joe.

I'm not even playing. You know, I want us to win, you know. But I know one thing, we're not the laughing stock that we once used to be. We're a good team. We ain't laughing now, Joe. We chuckled. We chuckled. Yeah, yeah.

We, you know, but it all comes down to not only injuries, our defense, you know, it was atrocious. Uncle Joe, I think statistically last year, we might have been damn there at, what, 28th in almost every category, stopping the past, stopping the run, like, every, everything, everything. So maybe this is year. You know, we made the necessary improvements. Management showed, Joe, that they are taking a serious

and trying to turn this thing around and give you a competent team. you know, to win, you know, that big dance. So now that they've done their part defensively, what they've done, now you've got to put up. Now is your turn. Yeah. Now it's your turn. So now the pressure is on you.

So all Mike Brown did was say, you know what? Okay, I heard you loud and clear. So this is what I'm going to do for you. I'm going to you Dexter Lawrence. Huh? I'm going to you brother Allen over there from the commanders. I'm going to you Mr. Cook over there from the chiefs. Yep.

With the pieces we already have. have defensively. Very good young talent. Demetri's night. Boy, I love you, boy, I need a jersey too when I see you. Now, the onus is on you. We made our play. They play in chess. Your move. And this season is the move. And now you come out and you say some of the things you said today, which can be cryptic, which can be taken any kind of way. Most of the talking heads of those that actually know the game, unc yourself, I heard Dan Oloskey, he said, this message says, get it together, either we win or I'm out. That's how you're all going to take it.

I'm going to take it multiple ways, you know, being that I was a player, obviously I'm kind of, I'm kind of siding with my team in general because that is, that is my quarterback. But I think it's unwanted pressure that he's putting on himself because they're going to use these videos. They're going to use these messages when things don't go well, specifically from him when he doesn't play well. Yeah.

Yeah. But for the most part, he, he's held up his end of the bargain. Yeah. thing that he hadn't been able to hold up his injuries. And he said, I get an injured because the sorry-ass offensive line y'all put around me. That's why I keep getting injured. I don't get injured.

It's not like I'm running and getting injured. I'm getting hit in the pocket. Yeah. So y'all offer me some better protection. And I think, look, I agree with you, Ocho, that the Bengals did. They went out there and they tried to revamp the offensive line. Yeah.

If you look at Zach Taylor, he's playing these guys in the preseason because in the past, they didn't play in the preseason. Even if they're only getting a series or so, that's something. That's something. Had the guys going out there, they after, you know, basically, if you don't play an entire preseason,

man, I keep telling people, man, practices practice. You get in game shaped by playing in the game. Yeah. Yeah. It's really that simple. And we're going to, we're going to, hey, Joe does not want to be.

He's like, you know what people think about it, even though, he had to want a championship, a lot of people, he's a top five quarterback. On everybody, on everybody's list, he's top five.

Easily. The last thing he wants to have happened, Joe, Ocho, is that he goes his career and he doesn't have a championship. He's like, I've been there. I know,

because once you get, once you get to that level, what are we actually playing for if we're not trying to get to that level every single year? Right. Petrie. It's not good enough for Patrick Mahler to win the division.

It's not good enough for him. If he's not playing for Super Bowl, what are we doing? When you go to five and you're, in your first seven years, what we doing? That's, hey, that's different, man.

It don't happen like that, bro. No. But when you set that expectation, when you've done this, because the expectation that you've already accomplished, you put that expectations on yourself. Tom Brady expected after he went to, think about it.

His second year, he goes to, he wins, he wins MVP. So now what's the, what's the expectation? Super Bowl every year. Yeah. that relentless pursuit. That's like, Ocho, you was there.

That's all, if you weren't trying to get better to get to a, get to and win a Super Bowl, you couldn't play for Coach Belichick. Because he didn't speak too much, about situations. Yeah. He put you to as many,

as many situations that he thought could potentially arise in the game. So therefore, when it does arise, you're not in awe of the moment. You don't panic in the moment. You don't freeze in the moment. Mm-hmm.

Oh, man. I'm ready for football season. I know you're going to be ready when you do. I know it's going to be plastered on every, every TV tomorrow morning, everything he just said, you know, everybody going to have their take on what it means and it's going to be negative. It's going to be positive. It's a good thing, you know.

We're trying to motivate the players inside the locker room. You know, I'm trying to motivate my offensive players. I'm trying to motivate, you know, my defensive players, you know, because I'm sick of pushing stuff down the road because, like he said, life is short. You know, hey. Oh, boy, they're going to take football life is leaving shorter.

Hello. Hey, Ojo, who y'all open up against, Ocho? Tampa Bay, if I'm not mistaken, in Tampa Bay. I could be wrong, as you might be able to correct me if I'm right, but I think it is Tampa Bay if I'm not mistaken. That's a defense, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, listen, that's a good test, too, week one,

to see where you are offensive. I don't think you want, you don't want that damn test that early, do you, Ocho? Yes, we do. Yes, we do, Joe. Yeah, we absolutely do. Oh, that y'all's study for it. And I know one thing, I know, I know one thing,

we need to hit out the gate out of the gate running. We need to hit out of the league. Oh, Joe, hey, Joe, eh, unc, we always climb my way out the hole. That's the problem. How do we start fast? Yeah, you know what? Hey, Joe, we, I always say,

how do we start fast? The one thing to me did I think, if I was Zach Taylor, obviously he has the way he wants to run his team the way he wants to, is that preseason? I'm taking advantage of all of that. I need all three of them, all three of them using the formula we use when me and uncle's playing.

You get you one or two series, the first game. Yeah. The second game, being that they only have three, we're going to play you to halftime. Okay. And that third one, give me to halftime and give me the third quarter. Yeah, it ain't happening like that, though, Coach.

Absolutely not. They just, I just saw come across the ticket. The Bengals not even playing, the Bengals not even playing against the Bears. They said they said the start is out. For the last preseason game? Yeah. No, it's still one one for the second one.

It's the second one coming up. Because the thing is, if you don't play, if you don't play the last preseason game, that's one week and then you don't play the next week, you play the following week. So that's basically two weeks. That you out. Like I said, I needed it.

Maybe no one else did, but I needed it. I understood. That's why, hey, I ain't never had no problem. Hey guys, we go into the... I'm a football player. What am I supposed to do, Joe? Yeah. At rhythm and timing.

You can't make that up, bro. No. And let me tell you something that make it tough, too, chat. Listen to our schedule, right? We got two very good defenses back to back. September 13th, we got the bucks, right? Yeah. Right after the bucks, why we got Houston?

Ooh. Why after Houston, we got to deal with the Steelers? Then we got Jacksonville, and we got a little breathing room, because we got Miami, then we got the bye week. Hey, but, but look, it's, that's kind of, you got your week early, Ocho. Y'all got y'all week the first month of the season. Yeah, yeah, real early.

Hey, but this sounds, that's probably typical by how y'all started. Y'all probably started out by one and four, something like that, one and three, something like that. That's how y'all normally come out of the gate, Ocho. Let's know, you don't need you looking like that. Y'all play some tough teams. Hey, you just heard my quarterback say he's tired of that, right? So I'm, I'm, let me tell you something.

I'm expecting. based on what he's saying, that come out and make sure we don't start in the hole. Ocho, he's just one player, man. He can only do so damn much. He got to hope the mother guys get on the same thing. He's the most important player. He's the most important player because he has the ball in his hands the most.

Therefore, he can dictate the games the most. Okay. All right. Huh? I'm going to be watching. All right. Steelers, Steelers, they got Jamel Dean and they got Peasy. Hey, Dean from Tampa Bay, number 35, huh?

Yeah. one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's going to be in hell out there trying to deal with chasing T. That's going to be a good matchup when he, when he, I'm not sure, I wonder if he's going follow. You think he's going to follow? Or you just going to stay on one side? No, they don't normally follow. Well, when Tomlin was there, Mike T. was there. They didn't really follow like that. But we don't know. That's a, that's a whole different system. So we'll see how it plays out. They'll probably just stay side to side. You better, hey, PJ Wat, looking for a bounce back year. He don't like the way they've been talking about him lately.

I don't know, Ocho. What happened? Yeah, I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that. Jamar Chase also spoke out today about protecting his quarterback. Let's listen to what Chase had to say about his quarterback. What did you see on that second? There might have been more than two scuffles,

but the scuffle where Joe was sort of involved. Did you know? Nothing just defending my QB. Is it good when everybody's rallying around him in that type of time? I don't care what we do. We just better to protect Joe. I don't care what we do. Just protect Joe.

And he knows. Chase no here. If Joe go down, we're in trouble. Y'all try to mess up the church's money. Hey, that's good. Don't mess with the church's money, boy. Hey, oh, no. Chase, no.

He ain't no food now. Mm-mm. Hey, I agree with Chase. But I don't know when that happened. You hit the opposing team quarterback and joint practices. You expect to get it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

You expect to get me, there ain't no if saying and bust about it. And then you got to worry about your quarterback. Mm-hmm. You don't want that, you don't want to get your quarterback knocked down to practice, do you? No, they don't stay away from our quarterback. Yeah.

You already know. You already know how you're supposed to do it. What you do, you run by the quarterback. You don't even get close. You don't get any throwing. And don't put your hand out. Don't put your hand out. Like that, you don't touch the quarterback.

Yeah, yeah. You don't touch it. There's no shit that. And then them dumb dumbs in Cleveland hitting their own quarterback. You know how dumb you got to be to try to knock your own quarterback out, don't you? Yeah. Or try to knock your own running back out. You know how dumb you got to be?

Yeah. All you got to do is. Just thud up. Throw it up. That's it. Good little thud. Like I did, Ray. Man, Chase was,

Chase was on swalled about that. Chase, Chase, Chase, feeling like, hold on, I'm doing this, y'all lying with this, what y'all need to be doing. Hey. Nice little message to him.

Hey, Chase, a nice little message. Hey, Chase thinking like here, y'all knock Joe out, boy, them gonna mess with my numbers. We need Joe. Yeah, that's what to charge of money. Hey, Joe was out last year, what, six games on?

Oh, and Blacko came in and were throwing that thing. And Flacco came and throwing that thing, boy. But what I tell, I said, Ocho, the first two games, Black are gonna throw for 400. Yeah, but then they're gonna hone in on it because they realize he ain't tried to do nothing but throw the ball to chase. Hey, that's exactly what happened too.

What, how many catches he had that one game from Flacco? 21, no, I thought it was 21. He had 17. He had 17 catch you at 23 targets. But that's a good, that's a good three game stretch. That's a good three four games stretch with me with Target. Yeah, it is. And one game?

23. That's crazy. Man, please. Mm. But look, are you concerned, Ocho? Because we have this, since you and I've been doing that. Yes, yes. We've, this is what we've always talked about.

Ocho, they gotta protect Joe. Yeah. Ocho, they gotta protect Joe. Ocho, they gotta protect Joe. And here we are Chase even having a conversation. All I know is they better to protect Joe. Yeah.

No, I'm not concerned at all. I'm not concerned at all. Sacks are going to happen. It's a part of the game. There's no quarterback on earth. It's ever been in a 17, 18, 16 game season, 14 games season throughout the history of the NFL that has went through a season without getting sacked.

Now, you can minimize some of those sacks, you know, you know, with your play, obviously with the play call as well, and also the quarterback decision making as well, not holding on to the ball long, you know, to fix that situation. So hopefully. Hopefully, like I say, the message is being heard loud and clear. Because it's being spoken loud and clear by the man that matters, by the man that wears a sea on his chest. So he's probably not saying it directly to his players,

but saying it through the media, it says enough. Ocho. What happened? Did y'all see this? Take a look at this video. Ocho, let me know what you think. I ain't see this. Chad.

Didn't I tell y'all the Bengals? man got to cross the public street bum, bra, bum, bum, to go to the practice? Yeah. Hey, what's wrong with that, huh? Ain't nothing wrong with a little walk? Listen, sometimes they practice in the stadium.

Sometimes the stadium right there, right there next to the locker room. You know? I know the stadium. Y'all practicing that field up under the overpad. I know. Okay, that's a, hey, it's a 20-yard walk.

It ain't bad. Night 2, 2, 9. Three nice fields. No, four. Yeah, four, four nice, four nice grass fields. People be blowing the horn at y'all? Hey, hey, you know, they, they fans. Hey, they fans.

Yeah, it ain't that bad. It's not, you been there before, right? Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, yeah. How you think I know what y'all practice at? Yeah, you should see it now, though. It's decked out. It's still in the underpass, the overpass.

That's fine, that's fine. We got a little indoor bubble over there, too. Oh, y'all got a bubble. now? Yeah, yeah, they got a bubble. I don't even like the bubble though, but it's cool. I like being outdoors, especially when it's cold. Give me the cold. Yeah, I don't know. The best thing happened when they deflated the bubble. We weren't going in it anyway. We was outside. Yeah, so you might be where practice how the conditions are going to be on Sunday. Correct. That's exactly what Mike said. If we could throw that, if they could throw that snow out the field, because we had

coils, we had heating coils under the practice field. Especially the one that was closer to the building. Oh, Mike, like, what do you think we're gonna do Sunday? What do you think the weather's gonna be? Now, we play it in Miami, but then I didn't wanna play it. I didn't wanna be gonna, cause it was turf. Man, my knee, man, my knees be killing me after practicing on turf. All that planting and cutting, because I'm a hard plan on, Ocho. Right.

You know, I be, uh-huh. Yeah, you know, mm-mm. Yeah, I'm, I would light on my feet. I would light on my feet, um, I'm like, Joe, I'm getting up by that thing. with little to no pressure. You know how you creep in the house? Yeah. And you don't want you to lady to know you got home.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting out like that. But, eh, eh. Oh, you're MD-88.

I'm a 380 air bus. Okay, okay, okay, okay. There's a difference in two days. Hey, I got to have a long runway, man. I got to say,

yeah. Hey, I'm a little prop, I'm a little prop plane. Oh, you? A little prop duster. Yeah. But, hey,

I know, I know them planes. That's what you in college. That's what y'all flew on. My Joe. Man, we took like six of them just to get all us to one destination. Yeah. Well, that was so scary.

Y'all need to pick you. And Ocho, you said you to say, y'all were $7.4 billion now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, hold on. I got a question. Was that the lowest value franchise in the league? Your lowest value franchise?

Yeah. In the NFL? In the NFL? $7 billion? Hey, that's funny. That's funny how that work, huh, Joe? The lowest value franchise, but the lowest value

is $7.4 billion. Damn. They're exploding. Wait to this next Keevi contract hit. Right. I mean, it won't be, but like maybe four NFL, NBA

franchises that's more valuable than the Bengals. After when? I mean, you're talking about after the, You got the Knicks, you got the Lakers, you got the Warriors, and probably the Celtics. That's it. You're talking about right now. Right now.

We want to look that up. Nicks, Lakers, Warriors, Celtics, that's it. I mean, the U.S. the U.S. the U.S. the U.S. Yalta. I mean, think about it, Joe, 32. The least valuable is $7.4 billion. Yeah. Yeah.

And we should have got in on that early, man. Get in what? Yeah. Man, please. Man, you see what, you see what 10% is? 10% of the Bengals is 700, 740 million. 1% is 74 million. Who got that kind of money?

Oh, it's people I hear with that kind of money, huh? Most of them ain't, most of them ain't know. Joe, talking about us. I ain't got that kind of money. No. And I ain't got that kind of assets that I can borrow against it. Because that's what people be doing.

They don't use their money. They borrow against it. Use somebody else's money. Yeah. Don't worry about it. We will have it though. You hear me? Yeah, we're going to have money.

I don't know we're going to have that kind of money. We're going to have it. We're going to have it. We're going to have to buy a triple we might to buy a AAA baseball team or something. Hey, we're gonna buy that. We might can go get on somebody soccer team. That's your high to, what?

That's how to. What I'm saying? What I'm saying, we can pitch in and we can get a little something of that. Are you? Hey, we can, hey, we can, hey, we can, we get the, we could buy the baseball team, the bananas. What, what's their name?

Savannah bananas. Yeah, we buy Savannah bananas. Huh? Yeah. That, they used to play at a, a greater stadium. They used to be right down there. It used to be the sand gnats. For real?

Yeah. They're good. They're funny, right? Yeah, that's why I used to, we used to ride by the, I ain't never went to a ball game, but I used to, you know, ride down there. It's right down on, on a, was it victory or Doreen?

Victor Doreen. Victory, right. Victory. They so entertaining to watch. Oh, they are. They are. They be out there for, turning back, flips,

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