Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Adam Silver Tells LeBron to HURRY UP + Pat Riley HINTS at LANDING LeBron + LeBron SPEAKS on DECISION + Giannis on Erik Spoelstra & HEAT CULTURE

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react Adam Silver waiting on LeBron’s decision to finalize NBA schedule, Pat Riley speaks on targeting LeBron after signing Giannis, LeBron speaks on decision and Giannis on Erik Spoelstra! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction04:25 - Adam Silver wants LeBron to hurry up with his decision18:40 - Pat Riley got Giannis and now going after Bron28:25 - LeBron spoke on his decision today37:00 - Pat Riley had jokes about Bam punching Tyler Herro41:10 - Giannis spoke on Erik Spoelstra (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Right. because you might imagine the teams are calling us, networks are calling us and everybody wants to lock in the schedule. But it will influence how we set up the schedule, how we set up opening week, Christmas Day, etc. Oh, no. Now, Joe, Ocho, I need somebody explained to me. Why would they wait on the guy that nobody wants? You know what? You know, you know what they they know they. They keep telling us nobody wants this guy. No, no, no, no. Listen, you and I both know, but. Is that me?

What happened? I don't hear nothing. My connection. That's a connection. I hear them in and out. I think it's my connection. Say something, Joe. What's up? Okay, check this out.

From what we've been told, a lot of analysts, nobody wants LeBron. Yada, yada, yada. But the commissioner say, look, I need this man to hear up and make a schedule because networks are calling us. They want to lock things in. in opening night, Christmas Day games, very important games.

For somebody that no one's wants, the NBA is show-assad an awful lot of this man. Wouldn't you say, Joe and no, I mean, I understand that. Now, obviously some teams may not want him because of his age, but he's still a draw. He's probably still the biggest draw. Wherever LeBron goes, the world follows. People want to see. It changes the dynamic to everything, especially with the NBA schedule, which is why Adam Silver said what he says.

Now, there might be some team to say, oh, you know, we don't need them based on what we have already. But LeBron is still the biggest draw in the NBA, depending on where he goes. He can play the stadium by itself, Joe. He can fill the arena by itself. You're absolutely right, Ocho. He's the biggest draw, and guess what? He know it. He damn know it.

You know, he knows that everybody's waiting and anticipating on where he's going to go. I ain't saying he going to draw it out but he's going to take his time with it. Do I think he already, you know, kind of know where he wants to go? I think he does. Okay, Ocho. I agree.

I think he does. And hopefully the next day or so we'll get that. But, man, listen, Brian moving on his own time. He's moving on his own. He ain't moving on any time. And he understands that part. So I think he's just kind of, you know, just stringing us along just a little bit.

Okay, Ocho, just a little bit. He said for the past 20, 23 years, I've done everything on your time. Hello. I've been on your schedule. I've done everything that you've asked me to do. I've been a model citizen. I've done everything right.

I've conducted myself and I've tried to be the greatest of great ambassadors for the NBA. Yeah. Just allow me this to make sure this is the right decision for me because this could potentially be my last decision that I make when it involves an NBA roster. Yeah. An NBA team. And so I'm going to take as much time. as I need. Do I think he has a general idea? Yeah, I think he's probably 90%. Yeah, 95% certain of

kind of where he wants to go and kind of what he wants to do and what he's looking for. Because look, the teams, I mean, the teams are not going to drastically change. I mean, they could. There might be some some wranglings behind the scenes that guys we don't know about yet. We hear stuff about Cleveland, potentially moving for Kyrie and Anthony Davis. I think that seems like more pie in the sky to me than anything. Golden State has what they have, with the exception of a few pieces. Miami kind of has what they have. You know what you got in Cleveland.

You know what you have in Philly. So the rosters are kind of, I would say, 95, 98% locked in to what you're going to have. Maybe there's a player here or there that you could add that, who knows? But I think LeBron, it's got like, like, okay, this is probably my last, this is probably my last bite of the NBA Apple. Yeah. I'm going to make sure I get this thing right. You're absolutely right. I mean, I said it.

Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. Go ahead. Joe. No, I'm going to say, I think he does. I think he wouldn't mind playing with Steph Curry and Draymond and him and Golden State, but there's so many different variables that have to happen, meaning, you know, whether you bring in another guy with him, I think that's kind of what's holding this up if you

want me to be. I think he kind of knows where he wants to go, but it's just like going to Cleveland. Hell, if I could go back to Cleveland and I got Donovan and Kyrie, You know, they probably sound a little better than having James. No knock on James, but I think the history that Kyrie and Braun has, going back to Cleveland, that'll be must-see TV. You know what I mean? And I think the Miami thing is sexy, Ocho.

I think it's sexy, bro. I do. I really do. I mean, to see Brian running that break with Janus and Bam, and, man, you surround them with great shooting. I don't, I mean, it's hard. Hey, listen. Like I said, I think I'm not with you.

I might be lying, though, Joe, Joe. Huh? Huh? Because for somebody, I mean, Pat Riley said today when he was at the podium, at the desk with Janus, he says he's been in constant communication with Rich Paul. Yeah. And the conversation has been going great. Now, either, either they're lying trying to make it seem like don't nobody want LeBron or Pat Riley's line.

Now, which is it? Now, what you want to say? What do you think is happening, O'Chall? I mean, I've already told y'all multiple times. on the show what was going to happen. Now, I'm just waiting on everything to play out. You know, I told you what it was. I've told you, hey, Joe, Uncle Joe,

I sat in the rooms with Pat Mickey. I've been in there. I know more y'all, y'all think I'll be playing. How do you think I guess some of this stuff? How did you think I knew Yonis was coming? How did you think I knew Yonis was looking for howling, Joe, two months before he even came to Miami? Like I know y'all don't take me serious at some time,

but when I tell you something, man, it's solid. LeBrona be here. Now, when he gonna make the announcement? I don't know. I don't know what he's waiting for. If I was him, I understand. I've done everything y'all wait for a very long time. Let me do things on my time

because my next move has to be my best move because I have another one after this. You know what? That's why I'm taking my time. That's why I'm taking my time making my announcement. You know what I'm saying, Joe? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what announcement?

What announcement? Don't mind about on Shay. She'll with Shay step up? Yeah. Yeah. What are you? Hey, I know what it is. Hey, Joe, I know it is.

I've never made an announcement like this. Hey, whoa. Hey. I've never made an announcement. Hey, hey, listen, check this out. Check this out. When you see that pinky finger go up like that, if I take a sip, hey, just know, hey, count me in or cut it out, okay?

Huh? I see what going on. We're here. Oh, okay. All right, all right. Yeah, yeah, count me in, too. I don't care what we're going, but I'll be there. Yeah, I'm just saying.

You know what I'm saying? Hey, you know, what I make this announcement? Damn. Y'all know I don't really make no announcements. I don't really make no announcements. I don't, dang, dang, that ain't my style. What? It's only two.

I'm more, I'm more of a creep dog. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Creep, creep, creep, creep, y'all. Yeah. There are only two announcements that you can make. There are only two announcements that you can make that of, that are of importance where it requires everybody to listen.

Only two. Yeah, yeah. So I, one of them, I'm already ready because I think all three of us should do that in 2027. The other one, it's something I told. It's another one I told you, you should do. You got to come out stepping, baby. Hold on, what's the other one?

What's the other one you're talking about? Hey, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, it keeps you young. It keeps you real young. You get one of them. No, no, the pipes. The pipes that rusted over, Joe. Huh?

The pipes rusted over. The pipes rusted over. They claw. You know, technology is a mama these days. Now, we can fix that. They cut the line. Nah, they can cut it. It just unclogged, you know, rust and then, you know,

claw it and it had been spent now. You know, I haven't been, you know, upkeep on it like I'm supposed to. Oh, okay. Just the labidate a little bit. Don't worry about it. They can fix that. Yeah. No, I want them to fix it.

I want them to leave it alone. Yeah. I want to. Joe, Joe, I want to leave it alone. Don't fix it. I don't know. I just say the thing, guys, you know as we get older and situations become more and more important, it takes us longer. We were young, we make a decision like this.

Hello. And sometimes it wasn't the best decision. We were quick to make a snap judgment. If it seemed good, it sounded good. Damn, where the options. Let's go make it happen. Yeah. I think as you start to get older,

you start to become more methodical. You become more deliberate in your actions. And I think LeBron knows. Year 24, he got an uncharted territory because he was still playing at a Supreme level at year 20. And he played at a supreme level at 21. And he played great. He was an all-NBA player in year 22,

which is unprecedented. I don't know if anybody's been an all-MBA selection at year 18, 19, let alone your 20, 21, and 22. Yeah. And even last year, averaging 21, six, and seven, which is still great numbers. But when you compare them to LeBron James, obviously, it's not what we're accustomed to.

But with that being said, Joe, you say, Ocho, you say the next one or two days, Joe, you think it's the next one to two days? I think we're going to get, I think I have to agree with your guys. I think next three to five business days, we're going to know something. And when those next three to five business days

happened and that decision is made I would love an apology from both of you again you know I would love for you to say you know what I would love you all to say you know Ocho well you was right now we doubted you once again and you knew what you was talking about hey Ocho I ain't saying y'all ain't in the race hell I just don't think y'all in first place that's all I'm saying okay well you know how races go just because the person in the lead don't mean they're going to win yeah I understand that it ain't about how you started how you finish I understand that.

I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. It all depends. It all depends on who in the race and what race you're running. If I'm running 800 meters and I got David Reducion, a Redisia. I know he runs from the front. So if you start in the back, that's where you're going to finish.

You're not catching it because he's going to set a blister in place. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You're going to sit that blister in place, kind of like your boy. You know, I said that a mean, a mean pace, mean demonstration. You jack rabbit off jump? Oh, there you go. No, I'm asking.

I'm saying. I was talking about. Hey, Joe. Why everything got to be, why everything got to be so sexual? I'll just ask the question. You jackrabbit out of talk. Why would you use,

if you talk about the 800, why would you use jack rabbit, which is for short distance racists? Man, I'll just ask them a question. I look, we all grow on here. You understand?

I'm saying, I'm just asking a question. You know, I thought the problem was Ocho, but you notice what you, what you thought, what you thought? thought, oh, Joe.

I thought, hey, listen, I thought slow and steady wins the race. That's what I don't. Not an 800. You don't. Oh, not. Hey, I ain't no track of field. All races, unless everything is a marathon. Did you not see that guy go sub two hours in the marathon?

Everything is a sprint now, Joe. Oh, okay, okay. The lady just, the lady just won, just went, uh, uh, the ultra marathon, a hundred miles and broke the record by like 23 hours. Oh, everything. as a sprint. Slow and steady, only only contains, excuse me, only pertains to meat, slow and steady. We'll cook this thing about $252.75 and we're going to let that thing, hey, cook for 12, 14 hours. Oh, okay. If we cooking meat, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I guess I'd be

theoretically you are cooking meat, you know what I'm saying. I mean, never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Okay. But in all seriousness, Adam Silver wants LeBron James no matter where he goes. He wants him on Christmas and he wants him on opening night. Yes, sir. It's a must have. That's what he wants to happen.

And there have been some great guys coming to the, look, there's some shifts. Jalen Brown has moved on and you got Yonis moved on. But I don't give it down where LeBron go. LeBron James is going to open up on opening night. and he going to be on Christmas Day. Now, you can bet your last time. So y'all, y'all, y'all, get your tickets to the Kasea Center.

You hear me? Hey, look, I know a lot of people are going to have a lot to say, you know, us talking about LeBron and whatnot, but I promise y'all, chat, y'all hear me out. Y'all going to miss that man when he's gone, bro. What he's done for the game is incredible, though. Like, to be able to sustain greatness for this long, we've never seen nothing like it.

So to be going 42 years old, bro, and still playing at a high level, still affecting the game, still got people coding them to the point they want them to come join the team. It's unbelievable. I can't wait to see it. So I'm looking forward to this new regime and where he's going to go and the guys he's going to be playing with, Uncle Ocho. Hey, I think the boy going to put on the show.

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It's known his pursuit of LeBron. Let's take a listen to what Pat had to say today. Yeah, we landed the plane. There's another one we have to land, but I just want. Hey, landed one. You say we got to land one more plane. All right, hold it right there. Look at your altitude gauge. You're doing great. Slow down. You're doing great. Altitude, 7,000, 6,500, 6,000, 5.

It's only a matter of time. All right, let your landing gear down. I let the landing gear down, Ocho and Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slow and steady. Slow and steady. You got a nice little wind at your back, slow it down a little bit more.

Yeah. 5,000, 4,500. You're coming a little hot, slow it down. Oh, yeah. Hey, listen. And they're moving, Fay. He's not doing nothing but just, you know, re-iterating what I've already said.

You know, I say mine loud. I say mine loud and clear. He say he's in riddle format. Hmm? Yeah, yeah, I got some work. So you said Pat Riley got this thing in autopilot. It's been in autopilot, since I told you. Huh?

You hear me? Ah, no. Ah, no. He's working. He working. He working. And he, he, he, he, he laying a big fish in Yonis to entice brunt. I get all that.

I get all that. But he got, he still got some damn work to do. Hey. Yeah. Hey. Listen. It ain't. But, and guess what?

And guess what? And guess what? And guess what? And guess what? And guess what? And guess what are you doing behind the scene? What are you doing? Hey, man.

Give me those cookies back? I was wrong. I was wrong. He apologized. Nah. Because you got to realize. Joe, Joe. Hey, you know, hey, Joe, you know you want that one back?

Yeah. What you do, oh, Joe. What you do when you got, what you got, where you got a good. I'm talking about a mean one. The one that can lay out a mean demonstration. Down on bending knees, boys and men. Yeah. I already know it.

I got you something. Yeah. I got you something. Yeah. She don't even ask for it. Yeah. She got a hundred, she got a hundred, she got a hundred roses. Hey, he ain't even asked for.

Ew. Yeah. Because when you know, when you know you wrong and you know you got something, uh-huh. Say you won't do it right when you will. Hello. Hello. But I'm going to tell you, tell you, tell you, tall old school, he ain't apologizing by them damn cooking.

Now, going forward. We ain't going to have no problem, but yeah. Yeah, let's get this thing. Let's get this thing going. To have Bron at the hell. A, Bron, Braun. Braun. You're right.

You're right. You're sometimes to old people like, man, let bygones be bygones. That was yesterday. Yeah, but, hey, as a matter of fact, I'm still mad about yesterday. You're right down cooking in the trash. Right, right. 65. Damn.

Yeah. But it'll be, it's going to be very interesting. Look, Bronn might be one of the most forgiving people that I know, considering what the Cleveland owner said, Dan Gilbert said about him in his first exit for him to go back four years later. Now, you have to think about it. There's been a 12-year gap from what Pat Riley may have said, what Pat Riley may have done.

He went back out before. The man took out of ad. The man called him the fake king and say he was going to win the championship before he did. Hey, but you know how it is. It's just like when you and shout, they break up. You know, them emotions high. You know, she's probably going to talk bad about it. You know how it go.

You know how it go. It eventually kind of set itself out. Yeah, yeah. That's why I say, hold on. Listen, let's just take a day or two because I don't want you to say something that you'll regret. And I don't want to say something that I regret. Because you've got to be careful when you speak angry.

Because, you know, the old people should say, boy, the tongue, Got a thousand snakes. It's venomous. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta be careful. Word, words hurt. There's, hold on.

The Bible teaches us there's power in the tongue. You have to be careful because remember, hey, listen to how people talk to you when they're angry. Yeah. They've been dying to tell you this. Mm. Yeah. Big friends. Watch when somebody get angry.

Somebody get drunk. get drunk, then all of a sudden, a drunk mouth speaks sober thoughts. Hey, that's why it's called liquid curd. Angry. Yeah. Man. Yeah. I can't. Yeah. So you got to be careful.

That's why, you know, look, that's why I'm very careful. When I get upset and I'm, uh, I'm arguing with the opposite sex, I'm very careful because I don't I'm not going to call you no B I'm not going to call you no garden tool I'm not going to call you out of your name I'm not going to talk about your family I was like hey let's just take some time you're upset I'm upset I don't want to say something that I regret right I don't want you to say something you regret because there's some things it's crossing the room you can come back we've gone too far but they ain't come back but they know what the cross though they know what line the cross though okay Ocho you know

that a senior there. They definitely know if it's a push, though. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's what I'm saying, look, listen, give me a couple. Hey, give me a minute. Give me a date. Give me some time. I don't, I got sister. I got a mom, had a grandma, got daughters.

I don't want nobody to call them out their name, so I'm very conscious not to call a female out of her name. Yeah. That's cool ahead for bail. You're upset. I'm upset. I get, I'm real agitated right now. we're going to be okay. Yeah.

Even if, even if we come back to a point that we're right here and we don't go back, we don't, we're not back together. Let's just part on good terms. I know a lot of times it's hard for people, Ocho and Joe, you've been together with somebody for an extended period of time and then all of a sudden you break up, they'll let the last three months, they'll let the last six months, they'll let the last year supersede the five years, the six years, the eight, years that you guys been together yeah bye uh uh uh hey what sticks out in the mind is only

hey what what sticks out in the mind is only the bad you know you don't remember a lot of the good you know i mean but the but the bad the bad put a stain on the brain so tough that it's hard not to not not not not to forget it you know what i mean so i get it bro i get it That's why I ain't trying to rekindle shit. Go down and look at your comments. Ocho, Ocho, great, Ocho, the best rock runner in the NFL. Ocho was this, Ocho with that.

Man, Ocho had an eight right. Ocho had to deal what he's supposed to do and stop all that antics. Ocho could have been talked about like Tio read them off. All the other great comments that they committed. The one negative.

That's just the way the mind is trained. Yeah. Because you hear the booze more than you hear the applause. I don't know what. why we wired like that, but we just are. But I, like, I'm not going to sit here and say that I've been perfect when dealing with someone like that. But I've always been conscious.

I don't call women out of their name. Because like I said, I got, I got a sister. I got a mom and I hold my daughters and my sister and my mom in very, very high regard. And I don't want no by aid. And I was like, look, there's some things you can't take back and I don't want you to step up, step across the line that you can't potentially come back because you know how it is. Sometimes you say things and you get everybody involved in your business,

and the next thing you know, they see y'all holding hands. They see y'all walking down the street. They see y'all somewhere loved up. And now you don't got me all agitated. I'm about to want to do something too, old boy. And now y'all back together. Yeah. Hey, hey, now they're creeping because they're creeping because now they know they did wrong

for getting people in their business. You know what I'm saying? Now you got real beef with somebody. Like, hold on, and you back with this Joker? Oh, man, please. Stop wasting my time, bro. Yes. Yeah.

That's why you have to be careful intervening in relationships. Yeah. Because here I am, I'm 72. Oh boy, you can't do that right there. And the next thing, you know, guess what? They back together. Yeah, man, we back together. Huh?

Have I had to put you up? If I had to put her, if I had to get her hotel room, and now y'all back together? Right. All right. Y'all called me slinging snort and everything. Oh, don't call me no more. Neither one of you.

Yeah. Yeah. That's how it happened to, bro. We've all been there. We've all been there. Man. Yeah, man, Sharp. I'm done.

I'm done with this. You're not done. Speaking of LeBron James, he spoke on his decision today. Let's take a listen to what LeBron had to say. The family. is a big thing too. You know, my daughter and my wife and things of that nature and I'm a big family guy.

So there's a lot of things that's, you know, people are like, hurry up and make a goddamn decision, Brian. It's like, okay, it's not just about the team. Yeah. So many other factors that I'm, you know, factoring in right now on what, you know, not only best fit me as a player, what best fit me as a person,

what best fit me as a, what my happiness. And also with my family as well. Yeah. You know, so there's a lot of, I will, won't hold you guys up too much longer, but, but the family portion is huge for me. I like that. I guess the most important piece of LeBron's foundation, huh? Uncle Joe, the most important piece to LeBron's foundation is family in Savannah.

That's the base. That's the basis that everything he's built is built on that foundation. That foundation has always been strong. So making sure that's right. before any decision is made, it's only right. It's only right. And it has to make sense. And I think for Brun...

It's hard to tear down a house that has a strong foundation. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, and Brun, although I do think family does play a major part in this, that's why I kind of exclude Philly. I don't really... I can't even see him going to Philly no more. I think it's... Yeah, it's just so far east.

And then it's... And it's unfamiliar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? and I think with Brun, that's why I say, man, I think it's about three teams, bro, and hopefully we get that decision here soon, but it's going to change,

it's going to change the landscape of basketball, fellas. Like, at his big age, he's still able to be effective. He's still able to change the game. He's still able to control the game. That's why he's so valuable at, what, 15 million? Yeah. And plus here's another thing.

All the guys that's moved team, named a player that you've been on watch for waiting for him to make a decision, what he's going to do. The guy is about to be 42. Has held the whole NBA world up waiting on what he is going to do. Well, he is him, man. He's the king, fellas. I mean, at the end of the day, okay, Ocho, hell.

When he's done, he's going to have all the records, bro. You know, you can talk about rings all you want to, but he'll go sit in the chop all of major statistical categories. You know what I mean? Like he's just going to continue to add to their scoring title and it's going to be unreachable, bro. It's going to be hard to see a guy. Catch that.

I mean, when you talk about 20, all NBA selections? Yeah. 21, all NBA selections. 21. 19 or 20. I think it's 20. All NBA selections. 13, first team, all NBA selections.

22 all-star selections. 22 starts. 21 starts as an all-star. So, and then he later joked at the Fanatics Fest with Tyrese Halliburton. Let's take a listen with him joking about it. This guy just told me he come to the Yankees. I'm like, yeah! They said New Orleans.

And he's having fun. with it, man. Of course. And I think, I think in his age, this is good, bro. This is good for the game. I mean, here, we've never seen this before. Man, let him enjoy it. Let him go out how you want to go out.

Because like you said, this is probably his last stop. Yeah, for sure. And I don't know why, but I think he's going to probably be, because a lot of guys, you look at Jordan, Jordan banished to went away. Jordan really don't do anything. Jordan don't really talk. Jordan is around NASCAR. He don't really come to a whole lot of events,

especially NBA related, the thing that he came to, what, with the 75th anniversary? But if you go back and look at finals, Jordan don't come to stuff like that. He's really not, he's really, we know what he is, but he's kind of like,

I'm doing my own thing. Magic is around a little bit more, but you see Bird is kind of vanished, Issel's around a little bit more, but for the most part, your Pantheon guys, they kind of vanish. I can see,

I can see LeBron doing that. I can see LeBron not being, as visible. Obviously, now it's kind of hard not to be visible when your current player in the NBA. But I don't see him as a guy that, I mean, he's going to own

a team, but I just don't know can he pull the people together and go get it. Because, you know, you see what teams are going for now. They're going for $10 billion. Oh, yeah. He's over $10 billion. Hold on, hold on.

You don't think he can put a team together to be able to go buy a professional team? I think, but here, the problem is being the face, of it. Now, he might be, yeah, they might put, you know, he might, okay, we want you to be the face of it. But boy, 10 billion, 10% of, of 10 billion is a billion dollars. And he wanted the team in Vegas. They're already, they're already, they're already, they're already, they're the guy on the Las Vegas, uh, Las Vegas night. They go to, uh, somebody somebody else just got involved with a, uh,

I forget there was another, a big, a big time, big time guy Joe that got involved. You hear, you know, I don't think. I mean, I've heard his name so many with so many baseball, football, basketball team, Jeff Bezos, but I don't really see him as being a, I don't say, I don't, he don't strike me as one of those guys that. Bezo, though? Be involved in something. He don't strike me as that guy. I could be wrong.

I could have, I could have missed, could have, could have misread him. And, but. Hey, hey, in Vegas, in Vegas, though, Hunk and Hoto, I mean, not that he probably. need the hell of investment, but that's a hell of an investment, bro. That's going to, that's going to do something. Joe, he could have bought the, he could have bought the commanders. Mm-hmm. What is six, what is six billion dollars?

What is six billion dollars? Nothing. They're not letting them in. They're not letting them in that circle. Those owners, they're not, they're not letting them in at NFL owners? Absolutely. You don't think so, Joe? They'll let it be in, Joe.

Ocho. They'll let it be at Ocho. because guess what? They won't, they won't, they cut it at 300 million. That, that's, so they 10 billion, you divvy that up 30, 32 ways. I understand you, but they've been operating as one for a very long time. They're not letting that type of, that type of pride. You ain't got to do a whole lot of background on him.

You know he got it. You're certain, hey, Ocho, your financial committee, they ain't got worth, much to worry about it. Oh, yeah, he got. You're proof of funds. He could buy all the teams. Yeah. Hey, hey.

He's definitely buy all the teams. Hey, they ain't going to ask him for his proof of funds or none of that. No, he's good. He's good for it. He's good for it. But I'm anxious to see him see if, hey, I guess I, I guess I may have to get me. I got a Cleveland jersey. I got a Laker jersey.

They got a heat jersey. I guess I got to go on and get me another jersey. Yeah. If you go back to one of them, that he doesn't been to before I ain't getting another one I don't know man I'm not paying no three four and off a though I finish Jersey Joe up hey I just he gonna have he gonna have a different number though I got him changing his number damn you're right I got him change his number okay oh Joe well he can't get six because they retired that around

the lead yeah for Bill Russell I would tell you a number but I don't want to spoil it Oh, here he go. Don't swallow. Pat Riley also joked about Bam punching Tyler hero saying this. And I don't want to get knocked out. You know, Bam was one of those guys who came in here too. Bam was in 2019, came in here, and he's been basically the foundation of this organism.

Hey. What thing about... That's got everybody upset, Joe. What's got everybody upset? You heard what he said? Yeah. Bam came in here in 2019 and he's been basically the foundation. Yeah.

What a report saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's upset how they treat Bam. What did Pat Riley just get out of his mouth, Ocho? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hey, a, a Rouse and Spoke, bro, they like that old school style. You know, hey, you say something.

I'm hitting your damn mouth. You know what I'm saying when I see you. You know what I mean? I ain't saying they condoning it. But at the same time, they don't mind it neither. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. And you see how hard spoke.

You see how hard spoke, Nell was smiling when Riles said? Yeah, he's glad. But you got to realize what Riles brought to the Knicks, what he brought to the heat. He brought that physicality because there were not a whole lot of teams playing that style of basketball. You had the bad boy pistons. Yeah. And you had, you had the bad boy pistons. and people believe it or not,

the Boston Celtics was a physical-ass team. Yeah, yeah. They just, they just, they just, they just wouldn't do stuff like Robbitt and Sal and Mahorn and Lambert. But they were a physical-ass team. Now, if it required that, oh, she swung on Bill Lambert all the time.

Burr swore him all the time. Because they say, you know what, you're getting out of pocket here. Yeah, yeah. You're taking it with you. Bop and put you dead his face. Hey, you see what Bill Lambert did to Landberg? Yeah.

Man, he burned up. Fankton. Man, Lambert, laying all his weight on that man, bird just rolled over and just started punching that man in his face. Yeah. Hey, the game was different back then, Ocho. I'm talking about, hey, you look at somebody wrong. It was a scrap, homie.

You hear me? Them four, hey, them boy were throwing blows back then. They said Bill Lambert was laying on the ground. Talking about, did he get ejected? Hey, Peter Paul said, try it all, boy. Yeah. But, but, but Pat, you know, he told you what he thought of Bam, what he, what they think of Bam. He said basically since Bam has been here, he's been the foundational piece.

That's what he's saying. Hey. And you, first of all, Ocho, you don't play this game enough. Joe, you played this game enough. You know when the, when the coaches and the, and the. organization what they think of certain players. They don't never tell you this, but you see the way they treat this man.

Yeah. And you could, hey, there's levels. They can say what they want. But Bam is an elite talent, Argonocho, in the NBA. Considering the fact that 6-9, 610, can handle the rock, can score the ball,

the intangibles, defense, rebounded, like, he does a lot for your team, bro. So when you surround him with great talent like Spoe and Pat Riley is doing right now, I think you're going to get the best out of their young boy, man. I think you're going to get the best out of us. You know what they love most? What's that? He come to work every day.

Hello. He come to work every day. There ain't no excuses because they don't tolerate excuses. I'm not going to give you excuse because you might use it. Yeah. There you go. Get the job done. It's really that simple.

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I just want to be coached hard. I'd rather you tell me the ugly truth than a beautiful lie. I don't want to be sugar-coated. I have a lot of people like that in my life that try to make me feel good. I don't need that. I need the truth. I can apply that to life and the game of basketball. Joe, do you believe Yonis want to be trod the truth?

The truth. Yeah, I do. I think he wants to be coached hard. I think he wants to be told the truth. And if there's holes in his game, okay, Ocho, where you think he needs to improve and get better, please tell me. I think that's the approach that he's taking.

He understands, man, this is like, you know, rejuvenation for him, second part of the NBA for him, a whole other chance. So he's getting an opportunity to create a whole other legacy from scratch. And I think he wants to get off to a great start. Yeah, I think he is absolutely right. Hey, listen, one thing about Yonis, we got to,

that's why I was so puzzling to me to hear those reports coming from Milwaukee, you know, saying that how he was laid, he just don't strike me for that type of guy. He looked like the hardest working dude on your team. You know what I mean? And that's what you can respect the most, bro. And that's why it caught everybody off guard

because more people than not thought like you thought. But somebody that was inside, you see, when you get inside information, you like, I be damn. Yeah. He had us all food. That's what inside of trading do,

mojo. But it's just like, it's too good to be true. I didn't think this thought was going to do this. I didn't think somebody's going to get this contract. I didn't think they were in merger talks. I be damn. Yeah.

And see, that's when you knew it was over. He had to go. He could never go back in there. Not with Miles Turner. One of them had, put it like this here. I'm not saying Yonis had to go. but one of them had to go.

Yeah. You're right. You're right. Because you already know you can't ever do nothing. I can't do, Joe, if I can't be myself at work, where can I be myself at? Because I'm there all the time. You're on the road.

Think about it, 82 games a year. So I'm either coming to the arena or we're on a plane or we're on a bus ride ahead into an arena. So I'm around you as much, if not more, than I'm around my own family. If I can't be me, if I can't feel, if I can't let my own, hair down around y'all where can I let my hair down in oh cho because I'm

guarded everywhere else I go I go to Target I'm guarded I go to the grocery store I'm guarded I'm out in public I'm guarded the one place that guys let themselves go yeah on the bus on the plane at the arena that's why you see guys joking laughing having fun if I can't do that Joe what am I what are we doing oh Joe hey it's tough because that's our sanctuary on your oh Joe you know to where we go yep we we talk about different things we talk about things that we feel like we'll never get out of this locker room so for the fact that those reports came out yeah if i'm yonair's hair yeah i feel away you know what i mean then you're right you can't bring that

you can't bring that back together because i'm side-iron buddy the whole time make i don't say don't say nothing around oh cho because you know he talked too much matter of fact it's not only not yon is being there that the rest of his teammates now we they're looking at him funny I mean, trust him. I got to watch what I say around him. I mean, listen, it's, it's messy. I'm not sure at what point where everybody became a chatty-patti, especially when it comes to NBA players or NFL players, telling some of the things that go in in the locker room, telling, you know, intimate stories that are really for us, only us, you know? Outside of that, the quote that Yon has said, I think it makes sense, especially for the heat culture and what they're

known for, what they've always been known for, how Spow is, how Pat Riley is. He's in the in the right environment as far as hearing the ugly truth as opposed to a sweet lie he going to get exactly what he won't he won't get exactly what he won't oh yeah but here's the problem that he's going to run into it's a lot easier to hear the truth when you've been told the truth before when you've all you've been told is pretty lies it's tough when you grow up under barney porters roof yeah when you get coached by bill davis you're get coached by Dan Reeves, somebody telling you, it only bother you.

Barney Porter would make, I mean, my brother, you heard him told you. You're talking about a kid, and he made you feel small. Yeah. He tells us all the time, he said, I'm going to give you an excuse. Because if I give you an excuse,

you'll use it. Yeah. People think it's easy. When you've done something, the better part of your life, when you've heard something, the better part of your life, it's not as easy as you think.

People like you, or I could just, okay. It sounds good. It really does. But when you messed up, and they blamed it on others, because I've been there. Somebody made a mistake,

and he blamed me. Man, you know, damn what, you're right. You're right. You know what I said? Oh, Joe, Joe, you're right, you're right. I'm wrong. I'm wrong.

I'm wrong. I'm wrong. My bad. First of all, he wasn't, I wasn't even to read. I wasn't even to read. I wasn't even the progression. But I take that.

Your sort of man throw the ball, skip the ball to him. Now you're talking about I'm deep. I'm 10 yards. He skipped it at 8. I'm 10. The round calls 10 to 12, but he skipped it at 8.

You're right. You're right. I'll take that one. Somebody else made the mistake. Well, you remember, hey, you go all the way back. 10 plays. 84, what are you doing here?

What I got to do with him making a mistake over there? I eat a joke. Oh, Joe. I eat it. That's on me. Because I know what you're trying to do. You're coaching them through me, knowing that I can take it.

You got it. You're right. You got it. You know what they say? If coach ain't saying nothing to you, he really don't mess with you, bro. Yeah, man. Yeah.

Well, Dan Reed must have loved me. He must be thought I was his long-lost son because that man mophore me and SOB me. That man stayed on my head, Joe. Hey, damn, come. Hey, hey, think about it though. When you get that type of old school coach, you see how much of a stain they put on your brain, bro, like, because you never forget that because coming up, like even though you got to the pros guys was talking to you like that. But when I got to college, bro, I ain't really never heard a coach talk to talk to us.

Talk does the way Coach Richardson used to talk to us. You know what I mean? So when I got to the pros, it didn't bother me what coaches got on me. You know what I'm saying? It didn't bother me if, you know, I was a rookie. and he said, oh, we're going to sit you for a few games, let some of these other rookies play. Man, I had them been through the wars already, bro.

I hadn't been through it already. Hey, hey, one thing about it, I was never going to let it waver my love and passion for the game. Okay, Ocho, when I was a rookie, bro, when I was a rookie, it was a moment right before I got traded. I went like 10, 15 straight games, DMPs, not even touching the floor. Like, not even, I went from starting. Coach was like, look, we're going to get,

because I had two other rookies with me, Keesrick Brown, Joe Forte. They both were first round. They had three first round preeks, so it lets you know how good the Celtics were the year before. They wasn't that damn good. Right. So I had created value for myself,

but I didn't understand this as a kid, bro. You know what I mean? So they set me. They probably already was working out to trade. They set me for the last 10, 15 games, DMP. And, man, I'd never forget that, bro. Like, because it stuck with me because when you get traded as a youngster, you don't really get a reason why.

You know what I mean? like man pack your shit and get on up out of here you know what I mean for real yeah yeah you're right but the thing is yo like you said when you're young and even though coach davis had coached me hard my first year after that I had like I was one of the I was the best player so for my last three years there I was the best player at the battle stay obviously he didn't yell and scream at me but I go to I go to Denver and coach reeds and I remember having this conversation when I went to speak at his homegoing service and um his wife, Miss Pam,

say Shannon, Dan thought the world of you. I was like, Miss Pam, I couldn't tell you. I'm glad you feel the blanks here. Man, that man stayed on me, man. Damn. That man stayed on me,

stayed on me. Now, there's some, like, as a head coach, now obviously position coaches, they're probably the hardest on the players, you know, because, I mean, some of those position coaches,

man, Oh, yeah, okay, man. Because position coaches, hell, if you don't reach your potential, they probably feel like it's their damn fault. Absolutely, absolutely. If we had a position coach man to do, he told the guy, he was supposed to like, he told him, don't go underneath because this guy's mobile and he'll skate.

Yeah. What do you do? Go on to me. Inside, quarterback go outside. Yep, he's going to knee. Quarterback scrabble, go outside first down. He did that. twice. He's supposed to be on field goal block.

Guess what? A BAT block. Guess what? He ain't out there. We got 10 men. Who dial up good? Next morning, he said, you know what? He said, I don't really know what's going to happen. But in the coaches meeting this morning, I recommend it that we cut you.

Damn. Told him just like that. He said, I don't know what's going to happen. But in the coaches meeting, I recommend that we cut you. Oh man, them call, hey, back then, because they would say things now that you can't say. You can't, you can't say what, because, because you know, oh, Joe, I mean,

you might have got somebody at the college, but they would say, hey, who, like, Lord, hey, you gotta be more PC now. Yeah. You can't see, you can't say some of the stuff that they, because I was like, oh my God. They're like, man, I wonder what y'all be, nah, you can't, they can't put no,

man, they bleep everything out, because everything was a curse word. Yeah, yeah. Everything was a curse work. So there was nothing, there was nothing, but you understood it. You understood it. It was a part of the game.

They yelled, they screamed, they cursed, they tried to make you better. And that was the only way they knew. Because those old coaches, that's how they coached. That's how they coached. It wasn't no sugar coached. It wouldn't work today, I think so. It wouldn't work the day.

For one, the first thing the players doing it. No, no, no, no, no. It's the players today, obviously ones that are really good. they're going to shut down on you and the ones that's not good gonna go snitch oh now they're they're leaving they're they're dealing with that now hold on joe now you you got to be one them ones to be able to get up and go now yeah but what i'm saying is oh too you're not in the position and you're not good enough to go you know ain't like you're going to start or play anywhere

else either you got to be boy but my thing my my thing is oh joe you got a lot of these kids out here i'm speaking high school collegiate Like they don't do good with criticism, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like probably ain't never been criticized. That tough love. Yeah, yeah. So look, now when you run into that and you were in college

and you feel like you're supposed to be better than, like, bro, and it's easier now because I can hit this portal with, you know, and go play for another team right away. They ain't dealing with that. You have to build up to that because early on, I didn't know how to handle it. Because my, my grandfather could look at me and I start crying. Because it hurt me so bad to disappoint him.

Yeah. My grandma looked at me, and they would yell. And I remember my grandma told my grandfather one day he had yelled at me. And she said, Barney, don't yell him. He's just a little fella. And he said, he looked at a deadpan. He said, Mary, when I tell him something, I need him to understand the seriousness of it. Because I might not get a second chance.

I say Mary, he said, Mary, this boy on a farm with these animals, he ran this equipment, and he might lose an arm, he might lose a leg, and these animals could kill him. So I need him to understand just how important what I'm telling him is. Joe, I'm five, I'm six. I don't know that I'm not supposed to be around a PTO. As I got older, I understood if I saw a man lose his foot. Yeah. After it got caught in a PTO, Mr. Joe used to tell us,

He said he'd always tell a pee-wee sundown, don't come up to the back of the machine like this here. Because, you know, if you got jeans or something, he had some fragile jeans. He came up, the PTO is the power takeoff operator. And so what it does, it powers the entire equipment. He has some fragile jeans and coated. He's like, Joe helped me.

Joe helped me. After a while you hear, he got his foot in his hand, just like this and hopping around. I take off to the barn to go get him. I say, man, Fred. He's like, Peewee, what you say? I say Fred just lost his foot. I said he came up and talked to Mr. Joe.

They got him. They couldn't say him. So that's what he was saying. He said, I might marry. He said, Mary, I might only get one chance to tell him something. But you know how women are. But then when my grandfather died, I think my grandmother might, especially that first year or so, she might have been harder than Papa.

Oh, shit, boy, great a shit. And you, at first she would warn you. Then it came to boy, she warned you and she's shutting down on you. Hey, damn, you used to tell us. We go, hey, all right. Boy, sit down. Now, didn't I tell you to sit your black?

And they're talking to every hit. I remember them days, boy. You know how I go? Yes. I remember that, boy. You get a lick for every. word or yeah and then they beat you for something to happen two weeks ago Joe I should have cut your ass two weeks ago huh Joe what are you talking about

bang hey that's trauma man that's trauma we all got boy from a kid you hear me yeah man they did tell everybody yeah you know how to tell that boy ass up today, Joe. Huh? Ain't nobody asked you, did you beat me? Ain't nobody ask you that. I don't even know why you brought that up.

Yeah. Your uncle did that? Yeah, that boy been married. I tore his ass. Oh, Lord. We'd be all in church, Joe. Yeah, you know that boy? Uh-huh.

Yeah. He started to smell him himself. I had to tell that I tore his ass up. Yeah. See, I want to fight you, Grady, when I get home. All right. She's going to tell it now. You know, I'm like, for this, you know, I want to fight you.

Yeah. But if you start to fight me back and you hit me and I go, oh, oh, oh. If I say, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. Hey. Better old people that play back there, Joe, they hit you with anything. Whatever they can grab. I know, I've seen it.

Whatever they can grab. I remember, why am I seen you out to go get a pitch? You know trying to be slick. You go get the smallest switch you can find that you think I'm going to hurt. Oh, and you bring it back in there. Oh, so you want to play. So you think it's a game.

Don't worry about it. I go get a switch. Come on in here. You sit right there. Man. Bill anything. Man, my aunt hit my cousin under the eye with a neck bone. The neck bone. Look, that neck bone. You see that neck ball?

Uh, yeah. He'll be that neckbone and he says something. Yeah. He'd have dead in the die. Hey, hey, listen, man. That you ever had a piece of rice hanging right there. Hey, I've seen it all. Oh, I told my auntie, my auntie hit her son in the head with a pilster.

Yeah, split him. He come, because we should live across the street. We used to live across the street. This is my aunt Sherry, I tell ya, she was a military lady, but she ain't played no game though She she yeah she put feet hands all on you she don't play But listen he didn't call this self catching that's what he'd called itself catching what he'd call itself catching flower up Boy she hit him across the head with that pills he ran over my house so fast he were hollling and crying like damn what wrong And my mama hit me with a pilsda

Hey don't break that heat over here get you an What? Hey They're supposed to play back then, bro. Oh, man. Hey, it's like a, like what you call them? Like a underwash where they're running down the street. He said, hey, don't bring that heat to my house.

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