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Episode Date: January 25, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top pop culture moments of the week including age playing a factor in dating, the Jenkins Family joins the show to unpack a viral vide...o of them being racially profiled in their own neighborhood, best friends tell you what you need to hear and much more!03:14 - Woman crashes golf cart at National Championship05:44 - Age plays a factor in dating10:00 - Are your single friends giving you bad advice?19:44 - The Jenkins family unpacks viral story of neighbor racially profiling them48:41 - Best friends tell you what you need to hear52:00 - The NFL is an “update your resume” league(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jordan said, who's a better driver, men or women?
Who's a better driver, Ojo?
Men.
There are some women that can drive,
but the majority of men are good.
The majority of women are bad.
They can't even parallel park.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
That was going to remind me of that Austin Powers clip.
Oh, yeah.
That's the...
Whoa!
She gay. Oh, the wheels came off, didn't it? Oh yeah, that's the... Whoa! She gave you...
Oh, the wheels came off, didn't it?
Oh, she done messed up.
She crashed into the ball.
Lord have mercy.
She done wrecked that.
And she take off running.
Hey, call the cops.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
Failing to render aid.
He must have been intoxicated.
Lord, how can you drive right into the wall?
Yeah, and you got to learn how to whip that thing.
Lord, how? Got to bring that thing. Lord have mercy.
Boom.
Got to bring that thing, bring it in
and come on. Lord have mercy.
I mean, she
stepped on the gas too, Ocho.
Too hard. Yeah, she drunk.
She drunk.
Well, I don't know who she
work for, but I don't know if she work for but I don't know she gonna be
employed tomorrow
nah
and it's on camera too
she done wrote
to people
and she take off
running
that's what got it
Ocho
she take off running
bam
damn
run
like what the heck
he tripping
Ocho watch this he took off Like, what the heck? He's tripping.
Ocho, watch this.
He took off.
Yeah, she brought it.
She out of there.
Ocho, what if she don't work there?
What if she done snuck past security?
And to be where she is, there gotta be somebody,
because Coach Ryan Day had just walked by, too.
He was in the car
in the front seat. Oh, he was?
Yes. Oh, Lord.
There's got to be
somebody employed.
I don't know.
She's going to be gainfully employed tomorrow.
That's just me.
So Matthew Stafford's going to have options.
See, that's the thing that you have.
The more options that you have, it's just like a relationship.
The more options a woman have, the harder the guy got to come to impress her.
If you ain't got no options, the guy, if you got options, you make it $10 million, $15 million, $30 million a year. you got options you make it 10 million
15 million
30 million a year
you got options
the dude that ain't got
no options
bro you gotta take
whatever
whatever like you
you gotta like her
you know
you get my age
you know
you got a few options
they ain't like
they used to be
you know
they ain't the options
I used to have
when I was 35 or when I was 37.
You're more about to be 50, Sam.
So, you know, your arc got to get a straggler if necessary.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't joke.
I can keep it one-sided with y'all, fellas.
Hey, I'm going to be honest with y'all, Chad.
I ain't got it like that.
So I just got to be honest.
O'Shea had options.
You know I was a little muscly,
dieseled up,
you know what I'm saying, don't y'all?
Make it good.
It ain't the same no more.
I was in my thirties.
Mm-mm.
No. No.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey,
so,
hey,
Ojo,
sometimes,
you know,
what you like,
the ones that got the booty,
you know,
on the shelf,
it's sitting up there.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Talk to me now. You know what I'm saying yeah you know nice
tight
you know
hey
I'll be on Instagram
I'll see them ones
like that
that come up
on explore play
I'll just go ahead
and scroll on up
I know y'all
ain't even looking
at them 57 year olds
so let me go
let me go look
at a watch
let me look
let me look
at a car
something
that I gotta
at least I gotta get chance to get it.
Cleans won't set it back, don't you?
Every man got to know his limitations.
It's one thing about knowing limitations,
but it's also understanding
that they don't know no better.
They don't know no better.
Okay?
You have to understand,
those that they're going to give an opportunity to,
they're competing with give an opportunity to,
they're competing with everybody else
at a chance
to be the main.
And most of the time,
you never
will be the main
because the guys
you chasing
are guys that have
a roster
and a hair
and look with me.
And they got choices.
Old poor hustler
like them chasing.
You know,
they called me
the poor hustler
back in the day.
I ain't got no monsters like that.
Yes, sir.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, y'all got them old cars.
You roll down the window.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, I ain't got all them surround sound bowls,
a hardened carman, you know, 14 speakers in the car
and all that stuff.
I ain't got no defronter seat.
I ain't got no thing to burp, you know, massage my back.
I ain't got all the monsters on me. I ain't got no thing to burp, you know, massage my back. I ain't got all the boxing on me.
Listen, age plays a factor now.
I don't think people understand.
Boy, listen, especially when it comes to women too and fellas.
If you're going to get it and get it done, you got to get it done early.
When you start hitting your 30s, you hit 35 and you hit 40
and thinking you still got the options you have when you were younger.
Oh, no, honey.
Oh, no.
Wait, boy, listen.
You don't.
You don't.
Ain't no sense in life.
Yeah.
I don't care how fine you is.
I don't care how good
you think you look.
Ain't that you.
Uh-uh.
You still ain't got the box
like you once had
when you was in 20s.
It ain't what you think it is.
And I...
Hey, Ocho,
I've been in my 30s. Hey, guess what? In my 50s, I got the most money've been in my 30s
and guess what
in my 50s
I got a little
what did I have
in my 30s
it's a little hard man
I
yeah
I thought
I thought I would be
a little bit
even more attractive
when I got old
when I got old
and Thomas Jefferson
looking over my shoulder
like this here
don't he look a little
better right now
no
he's still old.
Yeah.
So,
that's why,
that's why I'm not,
I'm not hung,
I'm not hung in Jersey up in the rafters, man.
I'm not hung in Jersey up in the rafters.
A study by Oxford University researchers
found that women
typically have five close friends,
but lose two of them
when entering a new relationship due to reduced time or shifting priorities.
However, those losses are often balanced by gaining a new friend, usually through their partner.
Professor Robin Dunbar attributes the trend to the focused attention on a romantic relationship demands leading to natural fading of some friendships.
I mean, listen,
I'm thinking I can
only speak from experience. I can only
speak from experience. For me,
regardless of any relationship I've
gotten in throughout the years,
my
friend circle has always been the same.
It's always remained the same.
They're the same women.
Oh.
Okay.
I see you going. I see you going
with this. But I think...
That's what they be hating. That's what they be talking about.
Oh, he ain't nothing. He cheat to see.
Y'all tribal. Y'all be
trying to keep her close.
Let her spend time with me. Let her spend
time with Ocho. Most of the time, you know what?
Her friend girls, they be single.
They be single.
And I, you know.
And man, because she won't go to the club
with no more with y'all.
Right.
Your single friends will keep those
that have boyfriends or husbands single.
Try to.
They want you miserable with them.
Mm-hmm, they do. They give you miserable with them. Mm-hmm, they do.
They give you the worst advice.
They give you the worst advice
so you can be miserable with them.
Wow.
I can see that, Ocho.
I do. Because, you know,
all of a sudden, you know, they used to go to the club,
they go on the trips to Cancun,
and they go into Tulum and all that.
And now she want to spend time with her man.
She want to be booed up with me.
You know, you ain't got no time.
So, oh, you too good to hang out?
Yep.
Because I'm in a serious relationship.
I'm trying to settle down.
I'm going to get married.
Maybe have a kid.
Hey, ain't no kid going.
Ain't no kid jumping off.
Maybe one.
I might can squeeze out one.
I don't know.
Have to get this, you know, have to get this pipe cleaned out, a little rusty up in there. You know what I'm saying? jumping off. Maybe one. I might can squeeze out one. I don't know. Have to get this, you know,
have to get this,
this pipe cleaned out,
a little rusty up in there.
You know what I'm saying?
No joke.
But get that,
you know,
I might can squeeze out one.
Yeah,
there you go.
Well,
you know,
you got to think,
especially depending on
who you're dating,
after a while,
if you're dating after a while,
you know,
guys will allow their women
to take friend girls,
go on girl trips,
you know,
friend girls be going
dinner, go to outings, you know friend girls be going dinner
go to outings
you know
I think that's healthy
for relationships
when women can still
oh yeah
I ain't got no problem
with that
no you go
hey
hang with your girl
you know
do your thing
hey but just know
they don't mean no good
I ain't lying
don't they
they happen
that you got
hey
you got a nice life
you got a G-Wagon
you got this got this big old house go you ain't got to work you got somebody clean the house They happen. You got a nice life. You got a G-Wagon.
You got this big old house.
You ain't got to work.
You got somebody cleaning the house three times a week.
You got somebody preparing the meals.
Your family taking care of blah, blah, blah.
Don't mess that up.
Don't mess that up, nah.
For you to be out there like them.
Texting three different people to make ends meet.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
She get the purses,
another one get the shoes,
another one... All right.
Yeah.
You get flowers once a week.
You get flowers once a week.
Uh-huh.
Matter of fact,
I done bought you a garden.
So you go pick your own flowers.
Mm-hmm.
Man, five, five, girlfriend.
See, women got more friends.
Women normally have more friends than guys, don't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And when I'm talking about like close friends,
like I'm saying like,
like you'll actually like talk to,
you know what I'm saying?
Like share things with.
Nah. Cause see for me, if I tell somebody something and I hear saying like, you'll actually like talk to, you know what I'm saying? Like share things with. Nah.
Because see, for me, if I tell somebody something and I hear it again, I already know where it came from because I ain't talking to two people.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
See, girl, like, and see, when somebody tell me something, man, can I tell you something?
Okay.
Before you tell me, who else have you told?
Right, right. Because I don't want you to come back, bring your ass over here and tell me, man, did you tell hell no?
Who did you tell?
I didn't want to tell nobody that bull jive that you told me.
So before you tell me, who did you tell?
Man, I told, don't say, see, okay, no, don't tell me.
Hey, you know what?
It's another question. Since we're on the topic,
how come women friendships
never really last?
Especially as a group.
If they go on a trip together,
they come back,
ain't nobody's friend no more.
They go to dinner parties,
you know,
everybody split the bill,
then they're not friends no more.
There's always a story or situation, especially on Twitter or X, whatever you want not friends no more yeah there's always a story
or situation
especially on Twitter
or X
whatever you want to call it
where this always happens
and it happens continuously
and regardless of age
the teenagers
the older group
even the
you know
the of age
everybody be going through it
all the way
I'm like
why is it always happening
with women
they can never remain friends
for a very very
long time
they always end up
falling out about
something
that's so simple
they give the
girlfriend one chance
but they give
they give Jojo
he get 30 chances
to mess up
but the girl
give one chance
she don't come to
my birthday dinner
you know what I mean
I ain't talking to
that bitch no
yeah women
comes comes
Jojo like like I I guess I think in them? No, I ain't talking to that bitch, no. Yeah, women come to Ocho like,
like,
I guess I think I'm unique.
Like,
I ain't a guy like, like, if I,
like, my, first of all, I ain't got to worry about this
because Bucket and Burns married, but
if, my
homeboy's like, okay, you interested in
somebody, I'm good.
Because I always felt that if you try to holler at me, you interested in somebody, I'm good. Because I always felt that
if you try to holler at me, you're trying to get back at them.
You're trying to tick them off. I ain't trying to tick my
homeboys off.
Now, there are some men,
your boys,
yeah,
hey, you turn your back,
they like,
yeah. you turn your back they like yeah
cause you know
back with your
old
old
old
old
you know
he's got a stepper
I kept a stepper
you know what I'm saying
yes sir
and
and I
if
nobody want
what I
what I need
I need a looker
yeah
you're supposed to be a looker.
I need you to turn your heads now.
And I'm always getting there first.
Because I want you to walk in because I want to see the reaction.
I don't care if the guys look.
I want to see the women that look.
Because if they look, I know I got something.
I know I got a winner.
Right.
That's what you need to look. Look here.
Guys,
they'll hit the crack of dawn.
They ain't saying nothing for them.
Right. But when them women
look, ooh, okay.
I like what she got on, you know.
Yeah. You know, she got on some
Tom Ford heels or some YSLs.
Maybe some Balenciaga boots.
You know the Balenciaga got them knee-high boots
right now. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. They ain't seen
tonight. It's winter. It's cold. For sure.
For sure. With a nice bag.
You know.
YSL, Dior, LV.
You know one of them nice onesior, LV, you know, one of them old nice ones.
Yeah.
Man.
Ain't nothing like a beautiful woman.
Nah.
Ain't nothing like it, Ocho.
Listen, God knew what he was doing when he made women in general.
That is one of the greatest creations ever known to man.
Ever.
Ain't nothing like him, Ocho.
A woman that work out just a little.
I ain't say that's got to be her life.
Right.
But just a little, Ocho.
Yeah.
Lord, forgive me for my ways.
Tough.
Tough.
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Mike, if you can, go back.
I know it was November, and here we are in late January.
If you can recount the events as you remember as vivid as you possibly can.
Yeah, I can remember. It wasn't too long ago.
I was leaving one of my real estate job sites in the inner city, wrapping it up for the day.
It was about 515. Took me about 45 minutes to get home.
So. I'm proud to go home.
Santa,
something I want you to know is
when they say it's a
affluent neighborhood,
it's one of the most
wealthiest neighborhoods
in Ohio.
Wow, congrats.
And my house,
my house
is the best house
in the neighborhood.
That's what I'm talking about.
Because I,
Come on now.
I've designed it from scratch.
I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land. I financed the neighborhood. That's what I'm talking about. Come on now. I've designed it from scratch. I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land.
I financed the land. Designed it from
scraps and I built it from the ground up
using all my resources.
So, proud to come
home. I'm pulling up
checking out my Christmas lights we
just put up for the holiday season.
And there happens to be
a lady in the driveway with two kids so i
don't think nothing of it kids coming in and out my house all the time i got kids got a family over
here i don't think nothing of it i think i think she's looking for the front door i say hey are
you are you looking for somebody she doesn't answer um she didn't proceed to go through the
porch um so i'm like, okay,
so she probably coming over.
So I pull in the driveway.
I'm about to park.
And she rings the doorbell and comes to the,
the,
the front of the front porch and stops me and says,
do you live here?
And I said,
yeah,
I live here.
She said,
well,
I don't think so.
So I said,
well,
what are you doing here?
She says, I don't think you. So I said, well, what are you doing here? She says, I don't think you live here.
Picks the kid up, drops the stroller, hops off the porch, starts running,
and I hear screaming, yelling for help.
At that point, now I'm in fear.
I'm in fear because I know what we face as black men in America
so I rush to the garage
park in the garage, come in the house
my wife's in the office
I said babe
some white Caucasian lady
she just jumped off our front porch
screaming, yelling for help
I don't know if she's going to call the police
I'm pacing back and forth I don't know what she's going to call the police. I'm pacing back and forth.
I don't know what's about to happen.
6 p.m., regular day.
We pacing back and forth.
At this point, I'm like,
I don't know what's about to happen.
She comes back
before the police gets here.
I don't want to go outside. I don't want to go outside.
I don't want to go outside with them outside.
And the police pulls up.
And I don't know what's going to pop off.
If the police pull up,
anything could happen.
I know they're going to decide to do it.
So my wife's come outside.
And she just wants to figure out what's going on because she's in shock.
And I'll let her say how she ended up coming outside or whatnot.
Okay.
When he came home and he said, you know, I was going to ask you, he comes into the house.
He says, babe, there's a white lady standing on my porch.
She's running, yelling, screaming.
I don't know what this is about.
And so what's going through your mind when he explains what he just encountered?
I was in my office working and I'm confused.
I'm not understanding what's going on.
Like, what do you mean there's a white woman running through for help?
For help for what?
He's like, I don't know.
And immediately my heart dropped.
I'm like walking and pacing back and forth.
Like, okay, just wait.
Just wait.
Okay.
Well, what happened?
Nothing.
I was just fooling in the house.
And I'm like, what is she screaming for?
He's like, I don't know.
And I'm like, what?
What?
And I keep opening up the door because I feel like the police is going to come here.
Somebody's about to come here.
And I don't know what's going to happen.
I don't even know what fully happened.
I didn't hear anything.
I'm in the house working.
And so I kept opening up the door.
And that's when I came out.
So she did end up calling the police?
She did end up calling the police.
She did call the police.
Okay.
So let me ask you a question.
Now, this happened in November.
The video just recently got released.
What caused you guys to release?
Because I'm glad this is on Ring Camera.
Because you're absolutely right.
Had this not been captured on camera, on video,
we already know the story that was going to be told
and how it was going to be spun.
But you guys had it on camera.
What made you guys had it on camera.
What made you guys finally decide to release it?
Well, I actually released the video and our community Facebook group. We have a community Facebook group, about 500 or so people. And it.
Ever since I've been like, we've been shattered. We've been upset.
We've been, it's so many different factors and so many different feelings.
So many different feelings.
I picked a video in our community Facebook group to share what happened.
And it took a lot for me to do that.
And then we woke up and the video everywhere.
You know what's funny? It's one thing to experience
racial profiling in public, you know, in public. I'm sure we all have stories where it happens
in that setting. Well, for it to happen in your own home, I mean, it can be unsettling. It could
be uncomfortable, especially when it comes to a place that you call a place of peace.
We can all get away from, you get away from the outside world. Has that
affected your sense of security
and trust in the neighbors?
Have you reconciled in any way
with the neighbor who caused these issues?
Of course there's a lack of trust.
Of course it makes us feel
unwelcome and unsafe. We have
two boys and he leaves our family.
He protects our family.
So to know that we can't go walk the dog or someone looking at us is what's
going to happen.
It's a lot of weight.
It's a lot of pain and a lot of emotion.
I can steer.
And he's been through this.
I still hear it in your voice's being sensitized to this. I still hear it
in your voice.
So,
of course,
it is
not once
have we got
a,
I thought the next day
maybe there will be
some flowers at the door
saying,
not once has this
person reached out to us
to give us
a sincere
apology.
Whoa, whoa.
H-O-A-A?
I reached out to H-O-A
immediately after it happened. Nobody said anything? NopeO-A-A. I reached out to H-O-A immediately after it happened.
Nobody say anything?
Immediately after it happened,
I reached out.
H-O-A ghosted me.
Wow.
For lack of better words.
Can I ask you this?
Prior to that night,
prior to that incident,
had you ever seen this woman
prior to this incident?
I've been in the neighborhood
for three years. I built the house from the ground
up. I know the developers in the neighborhood.
I lived in the front
of the neighborhood while I built the house.
I walked to the job site every day.
So, have I
seen her eye for eye?
No.
I've walked by her house and seen them on the front porch.
So she's seen?
When they came, I didn't recognize.
Go ahead, ma'am.
Go ahead. I didn't recognize them, but I was going to say it's a 90% or more of the neighborhood is predominantly Caucasian.
So we're one of one Black family from the neighborhood.
And our house sits all the way in the
back of the neighborhood, and
people ride by and take pictures every day.
And there's a lot of
publicity
with our house, so
it really was
shocking. But they stay
to themselves in the neighborhood.
Let me ask you this.
When you walk up and you ask, what can I help you with?
And she says, is this your house?
You say, yeah.
And she says, I don't believe you.
When someone tells you they're standing on your porch and they tell that's not their property and they tell you that this is not your property.
What what went through your mind when someone is standing on your porch and they say, well, you don't live here?
Well, that's when I was battle tested as a black man,
as a man in the prison that's, you know,
had to transition and learn how to put pride and ego to the side
and control your emotions. That's when you know, had to transition and learn how to put pride and ego to the side and control your emotions.
Okay.
That's when I kicked in.
That was the ultimate battle test.
Because in my mind, I said the audacity.
The audacity of her.
That was in my mind.
But I had to control my emotions in the moment because I knew where it could have escalated at.
I'm thinking, well, what if she had a gun?
Would she have been running or would I have been running?
Is this a situation because now she said, well, you have to see it from my point of view.
No, I don't need to see anything from your point of view when you stand, you know what, on my porch.
But for her to say, well, you didn't say, well, I really live
here. I live here. I don't have to identify myself. This is mine. Why do I have to tell you
who I am when you standing on my property? I mean, it took everything out of me, you know,
not to get out of character and especially when they came back um
you know she brought her husband back he was real standoffish i was i was scared to go outside but
i said on it i was listening i said i can't let my wife sit out here with these people
what if the police pull up so you know i i went outside and i just had to make my face numb
and i had to let them know I do live here.
A black man does live here.
I did build this house from the ground up.
I did design this house.
I had to show my face.
And as soon as I came outside, you could tell they switched it all the way up.
Let's get out of here.
Let's go.
They switched it all the way up.
When the police arrived, what did the police say?
Okay, what was the side of the story that they told the police?
And then what did the police, what was the interaction once the authorities arrived?
I didn't get in the house.
I didn't talk to the police.
I'm not black cop out there with them.
Those police might have done me down.
So you let your wife?
I didn't get in the house.
So you let your wife have it.
I let her handle that.
Okay.
What...
I made...
I mean...
I made a report.
I made a police report.
It was emotional to make a police report
because we all know what happened.
And you called the police,
so I had to think to myself,
do I go outside and start?
Do I let him come inside?
Do I sit up?
Do I sit down?
Do I let my son be in here?
How do I explain this to him?
And even explaining and sharing that this lady racially profiled as she ran from her house screaming.
There's no telling what people can think.
My son came home from work
who's 17 and said, Mom, what if
I was taking out the trash? What if she had a
gun?
What's going on? Why are the police here?
That's crazy.
But I knew
I had to make this report.
Despite the difficulties
of the situation you've been through,
have you guys or are you guys moving forward with reclaiming your sense of safety, being that it is home?
And in any way, despite them not giving sincere apologies or letting you know that we welcome you here in our home, especially HOA and the neighbor itself,
do you still have hope and motivation to keep sharing your story from this point on
for others that might encounter these situations
and ways they can prevent things from happening
and being able to deescalate those situations?
100%.
I have nothing against their family,
but I grew up dealing with this all the time.
So we still have to live here.
They live two streets over.
We have to ride by each other's house.
I'm okay with being cordial with riding by each other's house.
I have no issue with them.
The issue is getting a word out here and letting my situation and what I've been through and what I've overcome
be inspiring to people in the world, people that look like me. So that's the space I'm in.
And I'm thankful for God because I didn't ask for her to show up on my porch. This is God's
movement here. This is God telling me that people need to hear your story.
You need to inspire.
You need to tell people what's going on and use this.
So that hopefully this won't happen to the next person or the next person that comes across a Karen situation.
They will know how to control their emotion because us as black men especially
young black men we struggle with that we struggle with that impulse with that that acting we have we
we think irrationally and we never think rationally so i'm here to inspire people um
i'm a real estate developer i build houses from the ground up, single family houses.
But I thought that moving into the most wealthiest neighborhood in Ohio,
that this was the right thing to do. But maybe my focus needs to be building communities that's for us and by us so that we can inspire people
that look like us.
We can build a community that's for us.
Can I ask you a question?
You said something very interesting.
You said she lives two streets up from you.
So you mean to tell me
she went two streets out of her way
to try to find out who lived in this home?
Not on your street.
Not on your block.
Not on your street.
Not on your block.
Not next to you.
Two streets.
It's two streets up, but she's all the way north.
We're all the way south.
It's multi-million dollar houses back here.
The lots are big.
So it's two streets, but it's still, we could go 30 days, 60, 90 days without seeing each other.
So she went out of her way. Let me ask you this. She she she issued an apology.
She also said that she reached out to you and tried to apologize multiple times.
But she hasn't had a response from you. Has she tried to, did she try to apologize to you in person
or was it through this video
that you guys have seen?
She has not tried to apologize to us in person
via phone, via knock at the door,
via phone call, via email.
No, only the live videos.
Now, apparently if we were to believe
what the report says
that this woman
has a history
going back as far as 2018
of creating these situations
and then making herself
out to be a victim.
Have you guys seen that?
Have y'all seen
any of those reports
that's being circulated?
I have not seen that.
I have not seen that.
Can I ask you this?
I want to ask you this.
Have you thought about
since your privacy, your security?
Have you thought about potentially even leaving that neighborhood and going elsewhere? Or you say, no, y'all not going to run us up out of our home. I've been in Ohio my whole life and I face racial discrimination at its highest peak.
I'm a stereotype person, tattoo dreadlocks, a man that's in the professional world, in the real estate development world that you don't see too many minorities building multimillion dollar homes.
It doesn't happen here. So we 100% have thought about moving to another state, taking my talents elsewhere, building a community to go on places where we can be surrounded by more people that look like us.
Man.
So let me ask you a question.
What was your relationship with the neighborhood?
Did you have any inner interaction with your neighbors, like to the left of you, in the front of you, to the back of you?
What's the neighborhood?
Like I know you mentioned it's a very affluent neighborhood.
There's a lot of wealthy people that live there.
You mentioned million dollar homes.
What's the relationship with you in the community
other than with this said individual?
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So it's the wealthiest neighborhood.
And they got a saying that once you reach a certain tax bracket,
race doesn't matter.
That's a lie.
So it's a lie.
But people say that.
People say that. So everybody out everybody out here majority people out here they walk every day they take pictures of our house they say hi you can ask people in the
neighborhood those people are not friendly they don't say hi they don't take too many walks they
don't walk their dog they stay in their house. They are staying at home.
So the neighborhood is friendly.
I don't know about them.
She said something very interesting.
Go ahead, ma'am.
I was just going to say we participate in community events and, you know, for the most part
the neighborhood is friendly.
She posted a video
after this happened
and the neighbors brought it to us because they picked 212 together.
So that's how we even found out that they knew about it.
She mentioned to you as you was walking up, you have to see her point of view.
She's walking her kids.
It's late at night.
If you're that afraid, why are you out at night walking your kids
if you're as afraid
as you say you are?
Did that cross your mind?
If you say you're afraid,
why are you out here in the dark
by yourself?
You're married.
Your husband's not with you.
And you got a small child.
So it can't be that dangerous.
You can't be that fearful
of your life
if you choose at night
to walk a child.
It's 6 o'clock in the evening it gets dark early but yeah we thought about that of course i wouldn't be outside walking with no
no yeah no not at all especially if you you know have been through things or whatever like i'm not
walking at night, period.
That's crazy.
It's as simple as that. And as soon as someone tells me that's their house, all bets are off.
OK, you know, be scared. Walk, walk home. That's it.
I don't know. I guess I just look at things differently.
I've really never walked by somebody's house. Oh, you live here?
Definitely I'm not standing on somebody's porch and asking if this their home if they drive up.
I'm in the neighborhood.
I see somebody in the driveway or somebody on the porch.
I throw my hand up.
I keep it moving.
I'm not going to stand on someone's porch and ask them if they live here.
That's none of my concern.
That's just me.
Maybe I don't think I'm unique in that, guys.
We ain't nosy like that, though.
You know, we know it like that, man. We see somebody, man. We turn up the deuce.
We say hello and we keep it moving. The first thing we say, we see a nice house.
Boy, that ain't nothing. I'm saying it right. And we keep it moving.
It ain't our business.
You mentioned that you have a 17-year-old son.
And as Black, we have to have that conversation with our Black young men.
Is that we always, always, yes, sir, no, sir.
It's yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
When you get pulled over, look, hey, just be as polite as you possibly can.
Because your job is to get that man or that woman to your car, back to their car and on their way
as quick as you possibly can.
It's not about, you know, all this and all that.
We'll fight it in court, whatever it is.
If they said I was speeding,
if I was improper lane change,
I don't have a taillight or erratic driving.
Let's go to court.
We can argue it in front of a judge,
in front of 12 people.
I can't argue.
I got to have you make it home.
Have you had to have that talk with him?
Have you had it already?
Or did you have to have that talk with him
immediately after this incident?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It was emotional.
And, you know, it was multiple talks.
It was multiple talks.
And even with days where it's like,
you know what, I don't know
if you should go outside
and walk our dog.
Let me see.
Make sure you go out
before it gets dark.
It's a lot of weight.
It's a lot of weight.
You've received a lot
of overwhelming support
from social media, though.
I mean, everybody's been on your side.
The social media
has come to your defense
and like the way you handle it and you mentioned your situation, having made some decisions in your previous when you were younger and you learned and you said, look, I got to channel this.
I'm not I'm not going to give them the ability says I'm angry and I have every right to be angry because I'm in debt. I'm in the right here. But nobody cares about that because all they're going to look as you as a black man, look at your history and bring that into the equation when it had nothing to do with this woman standing on your porch.
If you could. Yeah, people, people going to watch this. This is going to get picked up. If you could say if what would you want people to know about you, your family and how you handle this situation?
I'm a black man in America that's overcame every obstacle that could be thrown at you. Growing up, making bad decisions, being around the wrong
people, and being given a second chance to transition. Raising a family, being married.
My 17-year-old, I've been there since he was six months. This is my son, but he's not my biological.
I've raised him as he's my son.
I have an eight-year-old as well.
I'm here to inspire people, to show people that control your emotion.
Control your emotion.
That's one of the most powerful things that a man can do
because a dangerous man is a man that can't control his emotion.
So a situation like this that's broadcasted across the world,
you can see that I was given every single reason to act
and I still control my emotion so
I want to use this moment
these platforms
to inspire people
lead people and to show them
what a real man is
and what a real man is supposed to do
you take care of your family
protect your family
control your emotions
and that's what we're here to do
and also
build communities
I want to build houses
from the ground up
I want to build communities
I want to design
high-end luxury homes
these are things that
I want to do
that I got a passion for
that
it's in my bloodline
custom home builds my grandpa was a custom home designer I got a passion for that. It's in my bloodline.
Custom home builds.
My grandpa was a custom home designer and builder.
These are things that I want to take to the next level and be known for and show people that in the real estate industry that we can strive, we can survive, and we can do what they do, and even better.
So that's what I'm here for.
Do you have a sense on when or if you'll ever get your normalcy back
because your life has been interrupted?
You didn't ask for this, but as you mentioned before,
God don't put on any more of this than what we can handle.
He chose you.
He chose you for a reason.
And the way you handled yourself in that situation, I'm not so sure a lot of us,
because she went out of her way. She had no business on your porch to begin with.
If she didn't think you lived there, she could ask that question from the street.
You don't bring your tail on someone else's front porch and then ask them, that's not your place.
I can see if you were at her house and
you're asking for directions, you're like,
are you lost? Do you need help?
She's on your property. Did you think
about pressing charges for trespassing?
We did.
And they threw it under the rug.
They filed a police report that
was nothing that we told them. We asked
for the police report. They never gave it to us. We had to track them down and get the police report that wasn't nothing that we told them. We asked for the police report.
They never gave it to us.
We had to track them down and get the police report and looked at it.
It was vague.
We thought about pressing charges.
We did all that.
I thought she gave me every right.
She's on my property.
That's self-defense.
I could have gunned him down.
But I had to hold my composure as a man for my family,
because even though it was self,
it could have been self-defense,
not for a black man,
not for us.
Hey,
wow.
Michael,
thank you for sharing your story with us.
Um,
we really appreciate it.
You handled that thing very well,
uh,
to your wife.
What's your name,
ma'am?
Brittany. Uh, you and the Michael handled handled that thing very well to your wife. What's your name, ma'am? Brittany.
You and Michael handled it very, very well.
I'm not so sure very many people would have handled it with the class and with the poise that you did.
You did everything right.
And even though you did everything right, it seems like everything has gone wrong.
She was wrong for coming onto your property.
The authorities seem to be wrong
for how they've handled this situation.
Hopefully you get the clarity,
you get the judgment,
the respect that you deserve in this situation
because you did everything right.
And seemingly as of right now,
things have gone wrong.
Hopefully the Nightcap family,
everybody that's in this chat,
we're praying for you
that you get your sense of peace.
You get your sense of normalcy and you get everything that you deserve back tenfold because just talking to you, you're a good man.
Really? You're a good woman. Y'all are great family. Yes. And you're doing the right thing.
So I tip my hat to you for the way you handled this situation and continue to be blessed.
God's going to continue to bless you because you're a good man and you do great things for the community.
And I want to thank you.
Ocho and I,
um,
nightcap family want to thank you for sharing your story with us.
We greatly,
greatly appreciate it.
This is going to go out and you're going to get an outpouring of support.
Yes,
sir.
And it still wouldn't be enough for what you guys went through.
But I thank you for sharing your story here with us on Nightcap.
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and we'll talk to you soon down the road.
Andrew Warren said, best friends tell you what you need to hear,
not what you want to hear.
They do.
I've been very fortunate to have those kind of people in my life, Ocho.
Like I said, I got my two best friends, Bucket and Burns.
Hey, Bucket quick to say, homeboy, I love you, but you wrong in this situation.
Yeah.
And that's the problem in today's era, too.
You got to think about it.
Whoever is the golden goose, most of the time, the people around them are yes men.
Are people that don't have their best interests at heart.
Look at some of the incidents
that have happened in the NFL
in the offseason.
Yeah.
Offseason has come up
for a lot of people this year.
They're going to be people
that get in trouble, huh?
They're going to be people
that get in trouble,
that have entourages around them,
that won't tell them,
you know,
what you're getting ready to do,
but it ain't a good idea.
You know what?
You've been drinking.
You don't need to drive.
You know what? I'm going to drive you home. Matter of fact, we're going to leave the car here. Give good idea. You know what? You've been drinking. You don't need to drive. You know what?
I'm going to drive you home.
Matter of fact,
we're going to leave the car here.
Give me your key.
We're going to take an Uber.
Yeah.
You'll see.
People that don't have
their best interest
because, you know,
you know,
if you challenge
the person who's making the money,
that means he might
cut your water off.
Yeah.
So everything is a yes.
Yeah.
Yes. Not telling them what to do
and what's in their best interest
yeah bro I don't really think you should do that
I love you but this ain't it
mm-hmm
it's different
it is
and that's the thing Ocho
you're right
for me it's different it is different now and that's the thing Ocho you're right you're right
I just
for me it's just
I need to know
that's your job
your job sometimes
is to protect me from me
hold on
hold on
hold on
that's a good one man
I got to use that
I got to use that
in my next argument I to use that. I got to use that in my next argument.
I can use that.
But that's why,
but that's why, Ocho,
that's why you have,
like,
in certain situations,
my partner's supposed to protect me.
Even if I want to,
even if I want to wallow,
she's like, hey,
boy, you ain't finna mess up this money.
Man. Man.
That's a good line I could use.
Like, I mean, I'm a deliverer, too.
Yes.
She's like, you're not going to.
When I was having an argument, she's like, Shanna, let that go.
Right.
For what?
You willing to risk all that over something petty?
No.
That's what.
I bought you in my life, you know, hoping at some point with what I envision after explaining my long-term goals to you, I see who will visualize you as an asset to me.
Yes.
And I'm going to be able to protect me from myself.
But this is what you want to do?
Yeah.
Don't let it get on.
Right there, right there on that spot, right there.
When I give that delivery, I'm going to let a teardrop out the right eye.
Because if a teardrop's out the right eye, that'll let them know you're serious. Yeah. get that delivery, I'm going to let a tear drop out the right eye because if a tear drops
out the right eye,
that'll let them know
you're serious.
Yeah.
Hey, boy, I'm ready.
I got that set up.
I got it right here in my notes.
He had to drop
the two-point conversion.
So he's going to be...
But look,
they said that
when they used to kill
Tony Romo,
I didn't like white quarterbacks.
I killed Aaron Rodgers,
I don't like quarterback. I killed Baker, I didn't like white quarterback. If I say something about a black Romo, I didn't like white quarterbacks. I kill Aaron Rodgers, I don't like quarterback.
I kill Baker, I didn't like black, white quarterback.
If I say something about a black, oh, I don't like black.
I hate my own people.
So I think I'm doing something right because y'all say I don't really like anybody.
When Mahomes doesn't play well, I point that out.
Have I not pointed out that Mahomes didn't play well?
Of course.
Turnovers help you lose a ball game.
My point was people are like, well, you didn't like Joe Burrow.
It ain't got nothing to do with like.
I'm saying his turnovers is costing his team.
It doesn't matter how well you play.
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The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them.
So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.
You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.
The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.
Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.
The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of 2B.
We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
There are so many stories out there.
And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content,
the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked
like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Please do.
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco,
Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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