Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Alabama upset, Coach Prime joins the show, Shedeur tops QB draft list

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best moments of the college football season thus far. Top stories include Jalen Milroe and Alabama getting upset by Vanderbilt, Deion “Coach... Prime” Sanders joins the show to talk all things Colorado football, Shedeur Sanders tops list for number 1 QB drafted and much more!03:13 - Vanderbilt upsets Alabama18:00 - Texas A&M defeats Mizzou21:40 - Ashton Jeanty from Boise State is going off27:10 - Shedeur Sanders tops race for No. 1 QB drafted30:45 - Ashton Jeanty best odds to win Heisman?37:10 - Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders joins the show59:18 - Ocho almost jinxed the Alabama vs. Georgia game(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 terms, and responsible gaming resources. The biggest upset of the day, Vanderbilt, 40, Alabama, 35. Longer bottom feeder. Vanderbilt was 0-60 all-time versus AP top five teams before today. It's the longest such streak in the pole era. The pole era started in 1936. The Commodores hadn't beat Alabama in 40 years on the field in 40 years.
Starting point is 00:03:27 1984. The 23-game losing streak to Alabama. This first win against Bama since 1984. Vanderbilt goalposts traveled three miles and was dumped in the Cumberland River. Fire Department dug it out. From
Starting point is 00:03:43 tearing down, it ended up in the river. It only took Vanderbilt's fans a little over an hour to get that goalpost three miles to dump it in the Cumberland River. Nick Saban pointed to Commodores two weeks early on the back of the show saying, the only place in the SEC that's
Starting point is 00:03:59 not hard to play at is Vanderbilt. It's no disrespect to them. It's just the truth. Vanderbilt had some fun with the quote after the game and played Saban's quote on the loudspeaker. Ocho, Alabama goes down 40-35, the number one team in the country after they took down the number two team, Georgia Bulldogs,
Starting point is 00:04:20 who hadn't lost a regular season game in almost three years. But today, Vanderbilt, I've never seen anything like this, Ocho. Time of possession, 42 minutes and six seconds to 1754. I've never seen that lopsided of a time of possession. Now, I'm not saying it hadn't happened. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to understand and figure out where is Alabama's defense? They continue to disappear.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Offensively, they play well. They play well in spurts, and then they disappear for a little bit and allow a team to get back in. When they played Georgia, they had a significant lead, and the defense allowed them to come back and get in the game. Today, when Alabama defense needed to stop, they couldn't get a stop. I was hoping they would get a stop just so they can get the ball back again and see if Brother Miro can take them boys down and score
Starting point is 00:05:13 so they can pull this one off today. If you think about Ocho on, what, the third play of the game, second play of the game, he throws a pick six. It's a fluky pick six. The ball caroms up in the air the guy picks it off he got stripped sack the guy did a great play he got him dead to right it's not good enough to just
Starting point is 00:05:33 get the sack Ocho he strips the ball out of his hand great awareness from him but the thing was Ocho Vanderbilt was 12 of 18 on third downs I don't know if I've ever seen that many third downs. Do you know how hard it is to get to 18 third downs? Let alone convert 12 of them.
Starting point is 00:05:52 They were 12 of 18 on third down, one of one on fourth down. And when you dominate time of possession, two and a half to one, let that sink in. So two and a half to one time of possession alabama couldn't get the ball back so even though alabama was scoring williams made another circus catch he was unbelievable again but when you get the ball back even because it's not like vanderbilt was scoring every time but they're taking six eight8 minutes off the clock and so they got the quick score
Starting point is 00:06:27 they's like okay you got two timeouts you got 2 minutes and 38 seconds and they got keep getting beat they ran the flow pass and they run the shovel anytime they got in trouble on Thursday and Alabama couldn't stop I don't know if adjustments
Starting point is 00:06:44 weren't made, but obviously at some point coaches have to see. Somebody has to say something. Whoever the spotter is up there in the goddamn booth, call down. Listen, they're doing the same thing over and over and over every time they get in a third down situation. Make adjustments and you play ball.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. Yeah. Bro, your quarterback opens up. He goes. Did you lose sight of the time? With number nine, the wide receiver, he runs like a lad. Yeah. And you have the back that goes like he's going to flat.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And the quarterback shovels to him. He turns it up. He's picking up first down. He's picking up big major yards. And then they run the flow pass. The guy to the left, like, zero. That's your guy. That's your guy. Eyes in the backfield.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Where you going, bro? Eyes in the backfield. Eyes in the backfield, Ocho. Alabama goes down the number one team in the country on the road against the Vanderbilt Commodores. Normally, the guys at Vanderbilt, they're probably going to be more apt to be
Starting point is 00:07:41 financial advisors. They're going to probably be not a whole lot of guys end up in the NFL. But, hey, today they were better than Alabama. When it comes to the rankings, a little better than I do. And even though Alabama lost. Now, what does that mean for their ranking as far as being number one in the AP poll? Does that change? Oh, they're gone. They're not being number one. Texas is probably more than number one because they AP poll. Does that change? Oh, they're gone.
Starting point is 00:08:06 They're not being number one. Texas is probably more than number one because they're the number two seed. Yeah. The question is, how far will they drop? They did lose to another. But here's the thing. Tennessee, they lost to an unranked team.
Starting point is 00:08:20 USC, they lost. Michigan, number 10. They lost. Mizzou was number 10, they lost. Mizzou was number 10. They lost to what Texas A&M, I think, was number 25. So they lost. So the question is, how far
Starting point is 00:08:34 does everybody drop? Simply because it is Alabama? Yeah, because it's an unranked team. That's bad to be. That committee, they be playing around when it comes to certain teams man but here's the thing you got 12 teams this year it's not a death
Starting point is 00:08:53 sentence probably had this is the regular format where you're only taking 14 this probably would have been a death blow but because you're taking 12 teams it's not life or death. Now, you can't have any more slip-ups. Now, you still got Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You still got Auburn. You still got LSU on your schedule. So, Alabama, Vanderbilt, 26 first downs. Alabama, 17. Alabama was 3 of 7 on third down. Vanderbilt was 12 of 18. That'll get you beat. Both quarterbacks threw it well, 18 of 24.
Starting point is 00:09:35 For Jalen Milrow, over 300 yards, 310 yards passing. Vanderbilt was 12 of 18, 252 yards passing. But the difference was Vanderbilt had 54 carries for 186 yards. When you run the ball 54 times, you're going to dominate the time of possession. It's so funny. I think today, as far as ranked teams are concerned, today was the day of upsets.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Not only did Alabama, Michigan, USC and Tennessee lose, obviously Alabama as well. I mean, the UM game is going on right now and Cal is beating number eight ranked UM 21-10. It can't be because everybody's playing away. I mean, I understand home field advantage but not by that much.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's different, Ocho. It's different. You got to deal with college kids. A lot of times, the moments, the lights get bright. They're not used to being in that environment. And look, Alabama came up. That's an emotional win last week, Ocho. You take down the Georgia Bulldogs, who hadn't lost in almost three years,
Starting point is 00:10:46 a regular season game. You take them down. You go in to play Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt is the doormat. Hey, Vanderbilt is everybody's homecoming. No disrespect, but people put Vanderbilt on their schedule for homecoming because our alumni is coming back.
Starting point is 00:11:01 We want to get the students excited. We want the alumni to see us kick somebody's ass. That's what you schedule. You schedule Vanderbilt. But they got that pick six. They got to earn it. And it's like, hold on, wait a minute. They started running the football.
Starting point is 00:11:18 It make you believe. It make you believe. Like, hold on. We can play with these fellas. Hold on. We can play with these boys. on we can play with these boys and that's exactly what happened the one thing alabama prides itself on oh joe yeah being able to stop the run
Starting point is 00:11:37 nick saban played the 34 that defense was defense was 34 defense. They had them big hogs up there, the outside linebackers. Stop the run. The thing that's always given him problem because he's done a great job of stopping the run was mobile quarterbacks. You look at who's beating Coach Saban. Go back and take a look. Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel, Deshaun Watson. What do all those guys have in common?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Legs. Legs. Deshaun Watson what do all those guys have in common legs legs if you have a little mobility Trevor Lawrence Cordell Jones right those are the type of guys Johnny Manziel look at
Starting point is 00:12:21 those are the guys that normally give Coach Saban defense trouble because coach saban does a great job i mean you gotta go back the only time i could think somebody just like just ran the ball down their throat well oh ohio state and the college football player went for like 225 240 that was the only time that i could remember off the top of my head now mobile quarterbacks giving problem because they're elusive in the a you drop in coverage and you guys run past them only time that I can remember off the top of my head. Now, mobile quarterbacks give him problems because they're elusive in the A. You're dropping coverage and you guys run past them and they jump
Starting point is 00:12:49 out to win and they get to take off down the field. But today, Vanderbilt just lined up and just ran the football and had great success running the football, which you don't normally see against Alabama. Because Alabama has a lot of guys on the defensive line and linebackers and even
Starting point is 00:13:05 corners and safeties that's going to play on Sundays. You go to Alabama, you want to play on Sundays. So, I mean, with a loss like today, what do you think the problem is? It can't be coaching because if you have a team full of four and five star players, a game shouldn't look like that, especially when you got those hogs up there in the trenches. I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:24 you couldn't stop the run. Hell. You couldn't stop the run. Hell, they couldn't stop the pass. Do they have that many players that are good enough to go to the NFL or will be going to the draft this year? That's the thing about college football, Ocho, is that it's easy
Starting point is 00:13:42 for those guys to lose focus. You got to realize now you deal with 18, 19, 20 year olds. Yes. Yes. Let me ask you a question. When you're 18, 19 year old, did you have the same focus? No. Yeah, but I'm talking about on that year, you locked in no matter what. Exactly. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:14:00 That's my point. There are kids, Ocho. That's why I didn't beat the kid up from Alabama. He's a kid. He 18, 19, 20, maybe. Huh? How old is he? Yeah, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, I'm saying. What did I say? Yeah. Oh, that's why I didn't beat him up. The kid. I mean, that's a horrible mistake. That's a horrible lapse in judgment. But. Yeah.'s the NFL player?
Starting point is 00:14:27 NFL player will understand situational awareness, especially in that. And that's going to come into your goddamn headset. Listen, you got to give us a chance. That's the first thing they're going to take through that headset. You got to give us a chance. If nothing there, you got to throw it up.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Oh, Joe, we've seen guys run out of the end zone as NFL quarterbacks. We've seen guys make – we've seen quarterbacks make bonehead plays, like have a guy throw the ball out of the end zone. Like, bro, why are you throwing the ball? Why would you throw the ball? But as an 18, 19-year-old, yes, that's the hardest thing, is to keep the guys focused because they have the attention span of an 18, 19-year-old is not that of a 25, 27-year-old. Look, and I understand the NIL money, the collective money, and they get some money.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Now, I get that. But the focus is not that of a professional because you understand these are still kids. I mean, some kids are mature. I'm not saying all of them, Ocho, but I'm saying it's harder to get young guys to have a singular focus than, say, NFL guys. But, you know, there's no excuse for him running out of bounds. There's no excuse for him. No excuse for him running out of bounds. There's no excuse for that. But we saw it last week, Ocho, that the guys lose a little focus here. And it doesn't take much now.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Because the game is, look, the game is like inches, not miles. You have a lapse in judgment, it's a touchdown. That's it. It's a touchdown. But give Vanderbilt credit. I mean, they got tired of being the 2-2, 1-1 in the conference. I'm sure they get tired of hearing we're the weak league. I mean, y'all just collecting checks. Y'all get y'all $45-50 million
Starting point is 00:16:18 that the SEC doled out after everything that's happened. Y'all happy with that. Y'all got a big old endowment, but y'all ain't really trying to win no football games. First of all, it's so damn hard to get into there. I ain't going. Man, look, I'm not going to spend all my time studying. I'm majoring
Starting point is 00:16:34 in eligibility, which means I'm trying to stay on the field to get to the next level. Y'all not going to have me in study hall five, six, seven, eight, ten hours a week. Oh, hell no. In the library writing, doing projects. Oh no. So,
Starting point is 00:16:49 I majored in football. That's my major. And it's the process of if I got to get a degree in political science or history or criminal justice. Okay. We on the same page. Yeah. Now, you know, my brother, he's there to go into summer school.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Got two degrees. Now. The only degree I was trying to get was like, it was a hundred and five. That was the only degrees. A hundred and five degrees. No, I know. I got, I was like, I'm here now. I might as well.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I might as well, you know, go to class and get my schoolwork. Like my granddad said, get your lesson, son. Get your lesson. You're dying there, son. Get your lesson. I was dying there then. But Vanderbilt pulls off one of the biggest stuff in the last decade, at least.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Taking down number one Alabama, 40 to 35. They dominate time of possession, 42 minutes and 8 seconds to 17 minutes and 8 seconds to 17 minutes and 52 seconds. Give Vanderbilt credit. They won. They deserve to win. They outplayed them today. Texas A&M at home upsets
Starting point is 00:17:55 Mizzou, 41-10. Texas A&M cornerback will lead the third. He's nicknamed the blanket. He sent this blanket and a note to the Missouri wide receiver, Theo Weiss. Theo Weiss Jr. ahead of their game.
Starting point is 00:18:12 A warm welcome to College Station. He's like, get used to this blanket. It will be real tomorrow. Will the blanket. Wow. Sit homeboy. Weiss pulled up wearing the blanket that would. Sit home, boy. We pulled up wearing the blanket that would have held him to zero catches in the first half.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Will blanket Lee tweeted after the game, it wasn't me. Olivia Moss ran for 138 yards with three touchdowns in her career. High 138 yards as Texas A&M handed Missouri its first loss with a 41-10 victory. A&M was up 24-0 at the half and padded the lead when Moss went 75 yards on a touchdown on the first third of the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Coach Drinkowitz said he was embarrassed by his team's performance. We weren't competitive and that's not the Mizzou football, he said. Number 10. And they were on the road.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I saw a little bit of this game. Number nine. Mizzou was ranked number nine. No, they were on the road. Yes, Mizzou was on the road at Texas A&M. All the teams that lost were on the road today. Oh. I like, I today. I like Will Lee.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I like the little message he sent. Even if he didn't do it, I like it. Because not only did, if he didn't do it, he backed it up. He backed it up. Well, you got to back it up if you do it. It made watching the game exciting because now I'm locked in. I want to see how Theo Weiss responds to getting the blanket.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Now I want to see if William Lee blanket the blanket, aka the blanket, if he really liked that. That made it exciting for me. I mean, Texas A&M dominated the whole goddamn game. It made me think maybe Mizzou was ranked.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It made me think Mizzou wasn't supposed to be ranked the way they look today. Ain't no way in hell Texas A&M that much better. Number nine. You know, Ocho, it's a situation when you're on the road and a team get out, it can easily get out of hand.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You saw last week, Georgia fall back, but you saw it was 28, nothing at the blink of an eye. And that was the number two team in the country. So you have to be careful when you're on the road, crowd gets into it. You get,
Starting point is 00:20:39 you know, you fall down seven, nothing. You come out, you go three and out. Next thing you know, you're down 14, nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And all of a sudden you got the crowd into the game. Now it's harder for you to hear. Guys hadn't been in that situation before. And before you know it, the game gets out of hand. 24-0. And that crowd is rocking in the house that Johnny built. And
Starting point is 00:20:59 hey, it's over. It was over. The score was at the end of the third quarter the score was 34-7 so Texas A&M the number 25 Texas A&M Aggies take down the number 9 Missouri Tigers
Starting point is 00:21:16 41-10 as Texas A&M is now 5-1 they're 3-0 in the conference Missouri 4-1 1-0 in the conference. Missouri, 4-1, 1-1 in the conference. Okay, Ocho. Aston Genting goes off for 186 yards and three touchdowns on 13 first-half carries in Boise State's victory over Utah State.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Genting became only the eighth FBS running back since 1996 to eclipse 1,000 yards rushing in his first five games a list that includes Ricky Williams and Leonard Fournette he already has 1,000 yards rushing through five games and he doesn't even have 100 carries for context Barry needed 130 carries uh to gain 1,000 yards in his record-setting season, in which he finished with 2,628 yards. But, here's the thing, Ocho, Barry had 225
Starting point is 00:22:14 yards and five touchdowns in a bowl game that didn't count. So he'd have been over 2,800 yards and 40-plus touchdowns. I mean, Barry's a different case. Yeah. But this young man here, after watching him tonight, the 40 plus touchdowns I mean that's a different case yeah but this young man here
Starting point is 00:22:28 how tall is he he look like he remind me of Darren Sproles like a bigger Darren Sproles he look short he look 5'8 5'9 that's what I'm thinking he's not a 4'9".
Starting point is 00:22:45 No, no, no, no. He's not. Yeah, yeah. He comes right now. He's put together now. He's a 4'3 guy or no? He look fast, man, because he break it out. He at least 4'4".
Starting point is 00:22:57 Hey, he going to play on Sundays putting up numbers like that, huh? The guys, he's playing against David. He going to play on Sundays putting up numbers like that? Huh? Okay. Oh, yeah, huh? The guys he's playing against. He's going to play on Sunday's putting up numbers like that? Huh? Okay. Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Right now, he done bought it to the lead in the Heisman race. JT now has 90 carries, 1,004 yards with 15 touchdowns. You know what? Will they try to use him not playing against elite competition against him? Because, you know, the scouts are good. They're good for doing that. They're good for doing that. Would you be able to do this at any other school?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Able to do it in the ACC or the SEC? I don't give a damn who he's playing against. He could be playing against Galliard. He rushed for 2,800 yards. They better get that man, that Heisman. I don't give a damn who he playing against. Do y'all understand how much 20... Ocho, this dude is on pace to average 10 yards a carry.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Listen. 10! He has 1,000 yards in five games on 90 carries. I know how to count on him. Hell, he could have...
Starting point is 00:24:11 I would have let him play. I would have said, look here, son. I'm going to give you two series in the third quarter. I'm going to try to let him get 300. Because I know there are going to be some games that possibly Ocho, he don't have rush games like this. Now, everybody's going to be bad, because Barry was
Starting point is 00:24:29 rushing for 300 against Oklahoma. He's rushing for 285 against Nebraska. Barry was a different animal, though. But this kid here, I mean, watching him tonight, let me see what he really got going on. Do you know when they
Starting point is 00:24:46 will play better competition? Yeah. I want to see him get better competition where it's a good defense. What conference are they in? The Mountain West? Yeah, the what? The Mountain West. They got Hawaii, UNLV.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Anybody ranked on their schedule? UNLV is ranked. UNLV, what would it rank? Like 20-something? Huh? Damn. Yeah, but they just lost, though, so. Made for This Mountain is a podcast
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Starting point is 00:28:50 The variance of the approved telling. Shador got nine votes. Carson Beck got five votes. Jalen Milrow got four votes. Cam Ward got one vote. Quinn Ewers got one vote. Ocho, do you think Shador will be the first quarterback selected? Absolutely going to be the first quarterback selected.
Starting point is 00:29:10 The unfortunate situation about him being the first quarterback selected is the situation that he's going into. That's it. That's all I'm worried about. I don't want it to be another incident like that of Bryce Young and what was going on with him in Carolina. I hope wherever Shador does go, they have pieces that are already in place and around him.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And if they don't, I would love to know their long-term, short-term goals and putting the pieces around him to make sure he's able to be a successful quarterback at the next level. Well, Shador has had a productive year. He's led a miraculous comeback against Baylor. He's thrown 14 touchdowns with three interceptions. He's number six nationally in passing yards, playing on the longtime NFL offensive court, Pat Shermer,
Starting point is 00:30:04 which has led an evolution of more than NFL style offense. See, this is what I love about time. Let me go get somebody to get my son ready that can play in a pro-style, that coaches a pro-style offense, get him ready to play a pro-style game. There are videos going around talking to Mark Davis.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Shador was on a bye week. He was at the Aces game last night, the Aces won. Congratulations, my girl kelsey plum asia wilson oh man did you see that rapper brown pass by chelsea gray how she had that thing and just like ah take that with you asia uh they played really well tiffany hayes did an unbelievable job uh jackie young they won but he was at the game and uh mark davis was talking with your door at the aces game last night saying, who knows? You might be home now. It sounds good.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I like it. I like it. But you know how owners are. They're going to say anything. They're going to say anything until you say your dream now. They're going to say your dream. It might not be the Raiders that had that first pick but they might because they do need a quarterback. Ain't no telling how high
Starting point is 00:31:03 they'll jump in the draft to go get him. Ain't no telling. Right. Well, he's like, he just said, well, just tell me where y'all picking at. Yeah. I'll let you know. Because like if they did, they call it dead into the Giants. I think Ty told a story.
Starting point is 00:31:22 He's like, the Giants want to do an interview with Ty at the Combine. Yeah, he's like, hold on. What y'all picking? We picking 13. He said, I ain't going to be there. Man, Ty's stupid. Hey, that's a good one. It got up and walked out. Man, like I said, man, people don't realize
Starting point is 00:31:44 how special Ty was. I know y'all y'all watch him and you see some highlights of it and you hear him talk you don't do him no justice no because you need to see the speed you need to see because I think
Starting point is 00:32:00 a lot of times don't you because the brass it superseded his talent. If you could imagine that. And he was talented beyond talented. The boy. Real deal. That joke with that man. Jenty now has the best odds to win the Heisman.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Jenty plus 225. Travis Hunter plus 320. Cam Ward plus 900. Well, I mean, hold on now. Travis Hunter, plus 320. Cam Ward, plus 900. Jalen Milrow, plus 1,000. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let's, let's, wait a minute. Jalen Milrow, do things change now that they've lost?
Starting point is 00:32:41 They just factored that in. Okay, okay, okay. It's updated. They just factored that in this update they just factored that in and I'm sure Travis Hunter's case for Heisman will continue to rise especially when he has a great showing against K-State coming up this weekend yeah
Starting point is 00:32:57 okay yeah but here's the thing though Ocho you just said what about the competition now what happened when Jenty rushed for 300 yards what is his stock going to do the dude had 186
Starting point is 00:33:13 on 13 carries there Ocho and didn't play a snap in the second half why not let him obliterate the record we don't want to get yeah because they're going to say we don't want to get... Yeah, because they're going to say, well, we don't want to get him hurt, you know, because Ocho,
Starting point is 00:33:29 they was up like 49 to like 10 at the half. You get him in the game, they're like, why you got him in the game? Ocho, you know what's coming. Shit, Campbell got to pick it up, man, this second half now.
Starting point is 00:33:46 He got to pick it up. He got to do it. Yeah, he does. I mean, it's happened to me. It happened to me, Ocho, my senior year in college. We get, like, I remember the first game of the season. I had, like, five catches, a buck fifty, and two touchdowns. So, I'm thinking to myself, oh, I'm going for three.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Coach told me, leave my pants in the locker room. I know you were mad. I said, Coach, what? Ocho, I said, Coach, Coach, I can get three. He said, son, you're going to play on Sundays. If something happened
Starting point is 00:34:21 to you, I'd never forgive myself. That's one thing. Coach, listen. We ain't trying to hear that. Ocho, you know I ain't trying to hear that. Sometimes your coach has got to save you for yourself, though. Sometimes your coach has got to save you for yourself. He does.
Starting point is 00:34:37 He did the same thing. What I have, I had 10 for like 205 and four touchdowns against Clark. He said, come on, son. You done done enough. I said, for like 205 and four touchdowns against Clark. He said, come on, son. You done done enough. I said, coach, let me get five touchdowns. Oh, I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I know. Oh, man. Oh, I was trying to sneak on the field. Man, I was on the field. Then I went out there and go call the pan. Oh, I done snuck on the field. Man, coach. Hey, then I told coach David, man, sharp out there.
Starting point is 00:35:05 He done called a tire. I don Coach Davis, man, Sharp out there, he done caught a tire by Ochoa. I'm going to get that touchdown, Ochoa. I had to tell Pope, my quarterback, I said, Pope, hey, throw me this fade. Because he looked at me like, man, what you doing here? I thought they took you out. I said, man, shut up and throw me this fade. Man, then I told
Starting point is 00:35:21 Mackie, Mackie, I told Coach Davis, hey, Coach Sharp back out there. Get your ass out of the game. I said, man, I'm just going to stab the ball, stab the ball. That's it. Damn.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Man, Ocho, I was trying to give you some stats. I mean, think about it, Ocho. I had 60 catches, 1,300 yards and 18 touchdowns. Just think about what I could have had. Hey, that was your senior year? 18 touchdowns on 60 catches. And eight.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yes. I was like, man, I'm trying to give you some easy. Oh. Well, I was trying to give me some, oh, man. Oh, so I had what? One, two, three. Like, three of my first five games, I had 200 yards in a game. I went from, like, 150.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I went from 221, 154, 209. Oh, no, 202, 204. I was cooking. And Coach was pulling me outside. Hell, I thought he was playing for the other team. You're coaching me or you're coaching me? Those are good numbers, man. Them video games.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Hey, you putting up video game numbers, boy. I'm told. I'm told. Man, hold on. I went... putting a video game number. Ocho. Ocho. Hold on. I went I went like nine. I went like nine, ten.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I might have went like eleven, twelve. Might have been like twelve games in a row I had at least 100 yards receiving. Touchdown. That's difficult to do on any level. Because at some point, coordinators got to pay attention. Listen, if they're going to beat us, it ain't going to be number two. I tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Not where somebody's going to be wide open. Because if you put two on me, I'm going to jump over the top of them. You ain't had no bounce like that. You ain't gonna do it Ocho, but you understand so we drove we took the bus everywhere so we get when we get there You know, we have our paint we have our helmets and shoulder pads in our hand And so we just have our cut off you know who got off the bus first Yeah, oh Joe. Oh Joe! I've been up back to that sun, so I'm good.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I'm just coming right here, Ocho. I'm dumb, Ocho! I'm dumb, I'm hanging! What? Hey, you see them, look, they pointing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that number two. Yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 00:38:03 That's me. You gonna get it. You gonna get it. Man, I'm the best thing going right now. I'm better than the Cosby show. Watch me. I gotta find you some Tim on this. I'll cook it back to you. You got some VHS film?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Finally. Yeah, I gotta see this. I gotta see how I was going deep on him there it is hey yeah there it is that shot for another one i gotta see i'm cooking them time let's talk about colorado colorado yesterday beat ucf 48 21 Buffaloes, your team with 14-point underdogs, improved to 4-1, 2-0 in the Big 12. And Travis Hunter caught a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:38:50 He intercepted a pass in the same game for the second time in three weeks. And this is the fourth time in his three-year college career that he's done that. He struck the Heisman pose after he picked off K.J. Jefferson with a diving interception in the third quarter. Ty, I said yesterday, and I text you this, that I thought this was your most complete ball game in your tenure. You look at the way you guys ran it.
Starting point is 00:39:13 You look at the way you guys stopped the run when you needed to stop it. After y'all done built up that big lead, they started to get some cheap stuff. You look at the way you protected the quarterback. You look at the way you hunted the quarterback. Your special teams got two good field goals from your kicker. This was a complete game. When you were looking at the week of practice, you're going into this game,
Starting point is 00:39:32 what made you feel so comfortable? Because I heard you after the game to say how much we were supposed to beat them by? Ten. What made you feel so confident that you guys were ready to play? Adversity. You got to understand, we respond to adversity. We got a bunch of former pros
Starting point is 00:39:48 that are coaching, doing a great job of maturing these young men, but it was a storm coming to Florida. There's a storm coming. So we had to leave on Wednesday to get to Florida to beat the storm. You know what that does? That brings us together closer. We're in a hotel for a few
Starting point is 00:40:04 days, none but team. The walkthroughs, the practices that we went out and practiced, thank God UCF allowed us their indoor facility. We utilized that. Our guys worked their butt off, studied a ton of film, met with the coaches, watching film, walkthroughs. It was just straight football and straight focus. And that was the difference
Starting point is 00:40:25 us secluding ourselves and getting away from friends family and loved ones and just being locked in man that was the difference time when you guys played um north dakota state i said after the game i said i'm disappointed because and i said you never accept anything in a win you wasn't in a loss. Coach Saban said yesterday, winning when playing poorly is a kiss of death. You then said after the game, I didn't know that you had said this at the time,
Starting point is 00:40:54 you said, guys, we can't be happy with just winning. We've got to dominate. We've got to take the field expected to dominate. Is too many people happy that we just won the game can you explain to those that's at home listening and watching what you mean by not being just happy winning but expecting to dominate as a coach you know what you have you know what positions you're
Starting point is 00:41:17 a little weary of you know what positions you're very strong in you know who are the dominant players on your team and when you go out and you perform and you may lose the defensive battle as well as special teams, but you win offense and you score more points. You can't be happy. You're excited that you won. You're happy that you won, but you're not satisfied with the true victory because you know, it could have went the other way with a bounce of this ball, a bad pass or form or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But when you excel on all three levels levels and that's what we did yesterday offensively defense as well as special teams we excelled at all three levels for our first time in my tenure for the first time in a long time even dating back to Jackson that we were truly dominant at all three levels man and I'm proud of the young man I really am because it was a valiant effort to do so. You know what? I got a question. I'm glad you just said that. One of the things you just said as a coach,
Starting point is 00:42:09 understanding your strengths and understanding, you know, and wanting everybody to come together. But how do you navigate that as a coach when you're playing against an opponent? I'm not going to talk about UCF, you know, in this instance. But when you go into games and understanding your strengths and the weaknesses of your players, how do you hide and navigate the weak parts of what you may have going on
Starting point is 00:42:31 and hide them in game to where you can still be efficient in all three phases? Well, you focus. I mean, we had been great versus the run. UCF was a running team. You know we're going to make this game plan heavy defensively versus the run. UCF was a running team. You know we're going to make this game playing heavy defensively versus the run. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:42:48 We got to get on these DBs all week long because they're going to have to play fast. They're going to be one-on-one quite a bit, man-to-man, and guess what? It's going to be at least two to three balls that you're going to have to break up. You're going to have to be there. Travis, I need you to be Travis.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You know, I need you to be you. I need you to do that. I just need you to make a play. I don't need you to win, but I need you to break even. All right? I don't need you to win. I need you to be Travis. You know, I need you to be you. I need you to do that. I just need you to make a play. You, I don't need you to win, but I need you to break even. All right? I don't need you to win. I need you to break even. You two right here, I need you to be dominant.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You really be truthful and honest about what you have and their abilities, and you give them an attainable goal that they can secure. And that's what they did. They went out there and did that. I look at both of your offense and defensive line, because you know that's the meat and potatoes of any team. Yeah, you can have all the fancy bells and whistles, but you need those pickup trucks and dump trucks.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And that's what you did yesterday. Your offensive line, they opened up the holes, gave running lanes, and they did a great job of protecting Shador. I think he's only sacked twice. Defensive line, they did a great job of stopping the run. They got after the quarterback. I think you guys sacked him like six or seven times going into that game and you know i know sap is on your staff and he's preaching defense he want those guys to hunt guys we gotta hunt i know he's telling
Starting point is 00:43:54 them they gotta hunt right did you feel comfortable did you know like damn ucf they want to run the football we've kind of been a little little la at stopping the run, but I feel comfortable going into the game today that we can do what we're supposed to. Yeah, we did. We did. Coach Rob Livingston is doing a great job, as well as Pat Sherman, both of my coordinators. They're doing a wonderful job of game planning and getting us prepared. And I just add what I certainly – they cannot beat us at this.
Starting point is 00:44:21 We cannot surrender that. We cannot do this. Those are my additives that I make sure that we can't do, especially navigating through the game and understanding what's at hand during the game in situational football. Like a situation like going down before the half. You know, we were getting ready to take a shot. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Let's get it. Tim O'Yars might have got this. Tim O'Yars might have got this. Let's dial up something. Tim O'Yars, give me that. Let's get out of bounds. We got eight seconds. We need to do this within five to four seconds. We need three seconds on the clock. We good. We got a timeout left. I'm going to use that. Boom. Man, Pat called a perfect play. We get out of bounds, hit the back on the shallow, going across the field. He gets out of bounds. Mata hits it. Now we go ahead and hit momentum because they're about to get the ball to start the second half because we had the ball open it up. So there's a lot of situational things that coincide with what you're trying to do
Starting point is 00:45:12 and what you're trying to accomplish as well. But the coordinators came up with wonderful game plans and we ran the ball effectively. Anytime you just run the ball effectively and take some heat off too back there, it's going to be a problem because now it gets like 7-on-7. And when you give him that opportunity, Chad, you've seen it. When you give him that opportunity to sit back there and settle his feet, it's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:45:31 But he makes him throw yesterday time on the move. I watched him throw that ball to Trav. He's rolling to his left, and he has to throw it over. He has a guy in between him and Trav. So he has to put enough heat on it, but he has to put enough touch to get it up and down. The guy in front of him, and he has the put enough heat on it, but he has to put enough touch to get it up and down. The guy in front of him, and he has the safety closing in on him.
Starting point is 00:45:50 When you watch him, look, he grew up in your house, you know what you got. But at any point in time, do you get impressed by seeing what he's doing? No, because my expectations are out of the room, and I get mad. I get mad at times. Hey, dog, what's wrong with you, man? You know,
Starting point is 00:46:09 like that happens and we have these intense conversations, but sometimes I have to dial back because I'm looking at it from this point of view and I'm hearing the call goes in. I don't know if this happens or that happens and we don't know, but he knows, know he could he could redial it and say this is what was supposed to happen but this didn't happen this is why this happened like he these quarterbacks he recant everything and he could tell you everything that he saw because that's the first thing i asked what did you see what did you see and uh he and pat are
Starting point is 00:46:41 wonderful together i mean you got to hear the chemistry going in. See, now it's a luxury because you got a quarterback that can see the field. And then the coach gets to talk to him until 15 seconds is left on the play clock. So that's almost like stealing, man, because now he's telling them, OK, they may come weeks out. Oh, look at the front side of this. This is your door is already there. He's already right there. And sometimes, you know, he'll check off something. We're like, oh, my God, he should have stuck with the play.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Oh, good job. Good job, son. It's almost like that sometimes because he can see the game. He can see the game tremendously well. Yeah, speaking of seeing the game, Uncle and I were arguing last night. We were talking, obviously, watching Travis Hunter and what he's doing and how special he is.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I'm talking about special. There haven't been many players. There haven't been very many two-way collegiate players that can do what he's doing at such an early age and be efficient on both sides of the ball like he's been at that level. At that level. And I talked with Unk yesterday. I'm sitting here arguing with him. I'm telling you, Unk, I say, Unk, I believe Travis is a better receiver as opposed to DB.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Now we have're here. So I just want you to treat you like a pro scout. You don't have to find out on your own. I know the answer. I know. I don't know. I've been watching. I've been watching myself.
Starting point is 00:47:57 No, no. What you're saying, this is what you really say. You've seen him with more opportunities at receiver. That's why you feel that way. If you see him on a day-to-day basis, pat them feet and get down there and get that. I mean, and I know him like a book. Right before that play, if somebody dialed it back before the play he made, I say, look, man, focus, focus, focus. Because they're getting ready to come at you.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I need you to focus and stay low and do what you do. That's what I said to him on the sideline because I know him and I know the flow of the game. And I know when a coordinator thinks he's tired up there, they may try to take a shot to try to catch him slipping. And he ain't getting ready to do that. That's just who he is. But I know the answer to that for sure.
Starting point is 00:48:39 This is my problem. Every week we got a ton of scouts come to practice and they ask me that question. What do I think he is? I'll tell you what. If you put him on defense and don't let him play offense in the pros, you're going to look crazy because you're not moving the ball down the field and your best receiver is over there on the defensive side of the ball.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And then the fans going to stop. Right. The fans going to stop booing, and they going to start saying, what Travis is. Now, if you put it vice versa, okay, now he's on offense, and he's lighting it up, then your cornerback is getting killed. But you got him over there sitting on the bench, and your best corner is sitting over there waiting for the offense to get a turn,
Starting point is 00:49:11 and you get murdered. You're going to look like a fool as a head coach. So you got to allow him to be who he is. I'm thankful that God blessed me with him, and God gave me a career where I could see the game from both sides, and I could understand that, no, this is not an anomaly. This is who this kid is. I got to let him be him.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Imagine if I was selfish and just was traditional and just played him on one side of the ball. We wouldn't see half of the plays that we've been blessed to see as a collegiate football player. I would have robbed him of that greatness that he has, that he's displayed for us. Thank God that he came. He chose us. And he gave us a tremendous gift.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Let me ask you this, Ty. A lot of people are asking. Obviously, you want your son to go to a great situation. That's first and foremost. Yeah, you want him to go high. You think? You want to go to a great knowing how you think yes high you want him to go high but sometimes
Starting point is 00:50:12 going high means going to a bad situation what about because everybody's like well well coach prime pull an eli yeah have you thought that far you just go hey son just do what you're supposed to do everything's gonna take care of itself and we're gonna cross the season, we'll sit down and discuss what the next step is. A LeVar Ball.
Starting point is 00:50:30 A LeBron. I'm going to put in a Cesar. Cesar. The boxers. I'm putting it all up. Yeah. All up. No, honestly, we've talked about it extensively.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I talk to most of the teams because they had practice every day. But I want what's best for him. But I want him to be happy as well. So, you know, you really don't get to dictate where your son gets to go because there's a draft process. But you know us. You know how we are. We know who ain't trying to win in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:51:02 You know that. You know who's consistently, you know, in the basement year after year after year. You don't want that situation for your kids or your family members. Nobody. None of them. So we know what time it is. But you got to understand, Shador, he's suited for adversity. All our life, we've been on adversity.
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Starting point is 00:55:26 Man, what's your take on that, Ty? Jagger, don't they have two beaters, Ocho? Yeah. Okay, why don't you just call a two beater? Why you got to bring a couple two? You can get them out there, too. You can run them out there, too, as well. That's a two beater. Run them out there, too.
Starting point is 00:55:42 First of all, Jagger, if they had a couple two on you and you playing tight end, you're going to tear that seam up. That linebacker is going to keep on shooting that seam. If he runs with you, we're going to put it back shoulder. Then what you going to do? You're going to go to work. As a matter of fact, and if they in that two, hell, all you got to do,
Starting point is 00:55:57 if you got some dogs on there, condense some goddamn splits. We corner out their ass to death or we go two yards outside the number and we got them run that dig their ass to death. Let me tell you, cover two. Cover two, first of all, or we go two yards outside the number and we got them run that dig they ass to death. Let me tell you cover two. Cover two, first of all, Chad love cover two. You know why? Because he towed a corner up and now he one-on-one with a safety that's not usually playing in space. So that was
Starting point is 00:56:14 a murder. Honestly, I've always told coordinators and the pros, guys, if you're going to play cover two, just put the safeties up front. Put the corners in the back. Because you want the corners, which are now the safeties, to come Put the corners in the back. Because you want the corners which are not a safety to come up and make the tackles. Then you want those
Starting point is 00:56:29 guys to defend the pass. But now you're dealing with a guy back there on the hash that ain't used to space. And Chad can't wait to get off that gym and see that joke and face him up. Man, please. Yeah. Please. I cover two beat. I used to tell TD, TD, run them out of cover two.
Starting point is 00:56:45 That's right. That's your job. Run them out of cover two. Make them drop. You're not finna stop us with this light box. Play action don't kill it too, though. Play action don't kill it too because when you got a running game, he has to, you know, he has to take that fight.
Starting point is 00:56:58 He has to stay still. So he won't let you get up. He gonna let you get up the scene. He ain't got no choice. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, Hi, Coach Prime, what's the biggest lesson you learned as a coach that you wish you had known during your playing
Starting point is 00:57:10 days and how do you apply that lesson to your coaching today? These kids are different. These kids are different these days. It's totally different. You can't expect what you would give. Don't ever expect what you would give. Don't ever expect what you would give.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Hold on. Hold on. Stay right there now. Stay right there. I got to write that down. What you would give. You can't expect. I'm going to use this in my next argument.
Starting point is 00:57:44 He's a fool. Yeah. That's tough. That's why I couldn't be no coach. Ty got two. He has patience. And that's the number one thing you have to have in surplus. Because like you said, look, we go out there, we practice all week.
Starting point is 00:58:05 We go over Saturday morning, we talk about the first 15. We have Saturday night meetings, we go over the first 15. The first, and I'd be dang if we don't get out there and the first somebody jump offside, somebody false start, somebody blow it. I'm like, bro, we've been practicing
Starting point is 00:58:22 this, we've been going over these plays here for three days. How you mess it up? Right. Right. And you can't be critical like we used to be because they can't handle that. When you jumped outside, no, I'm good. It's a whole different game I did, man.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Got to be careful how you talk. Yeah. But I can make you feel like I do. But you don't hear the thing the final time you don't curse anyway i can make you feel like i do uh anthony blaylock can you ask coach prime how is he preparing for life after shador i know my son like a book so i know all his ways and the things that makes him who he is and when you're recruiting you look for those attributes like you can't find another travis hunter but you could get
Starting point is 00:59:19 close you could find those attributes that he have he may not be a two-way player. You may have to get two guys to be that one guy. But try to find those attributes that he has that's already in it. So life after, you know, door shallow or Bucky going to be with me. He's not going to leave me. But trust me, I don't look forward to that, but it's coming. D. Taylor says, DJ, Florida State quarterback says, how FSU has fallen from undefeated season to its abysmal season. Say he still loves football. Ocho and Ty, when you see a guy, he left Clemson, he left Oregon State,
Starting point is 01:00:04 he's at Florida State now. Is that a red flag to you when a guy has, this is his third university in, say, what, three years? Is that a red flag to you, Coach? Yeah. yeah I think some of them keep running they keep running from competition they don't want to compete how you go from Oregon
Starting point is 01:01:04 to Clemson to FSU They don't want to compete. How do you go from Oregon, to Clemson, to FSU, so me, based on what you look like this year, now it makes me believe you're running away from competing. Right. Is he winning the job based on on attributes
Starting point is 01:01:27 winning the job and holding on to the job is two different things Ty true hold on hold on that's a good one right there put the wrong thing in water True. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, you're right. That's a good one right there.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Put the wrong thing in water? Hey, you know, because boiling water can have two different effects, Ocho. It'll soften the potato, but it'll harden the egg. Ocho, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I ain't giving you no more, Ocho. I'm done. I'm done. Time out. Time out, Ocho. Let's done. I ain't giving you no more, Ocho. I'm done. I'm done. Time out. Time out, Ocho. Let's go. We're going to keep it moving. What's wrong? Hey, give me that boiled water.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Man. What is it? Hey, it'll soften the potato or harden the egg. Boiled water. It's the egg. Boiling water. It's boiling water. Two different effects. Harden one, soften the other. Ocho, your janky ass almost jinxed him.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Can someone tell us we can start nightcap early? Because Alabama got this. Yeah. I mean, listen, that's what I thought it was. Listen, the game was lopsided the whole first half. I had no idea that they were going to mismanage the clock and allow Georgia to get back into the game. This is the rule of thumb for coaches.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Don't take your foot off the gas. You're allowing them to get back in the game. The game shouldn't even have been that close. Continue to run the same offense you're running. There was no need to do that. There was no need to come off the gas. It's a lot easier said than done. We watched this in a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:03:13 A team be up 28-3 and still try to be aggressive, and it bit them in the butt. You put Matt Ryan in the shotgun, the guy misses a block, you cost him a fumble. You hear what you just said? Key word. You saw a team still try to be aggressive. Alabama team tried to be aggressive.
Starting point is 01:03:27 They were very vanilla the second half. But they didn't be aggressive. They won. The other team was aggressive and lost. Now, which would you rather be? The thing is, the way I look at it and what I try to explain to people at Ocho is like, look, when you have the momentum, how much separation can you put between you
Starting point is 01:03:43 and the team that you have the momentum because eventually they're going to get it they're going to get the momentum and when they do how much distance it have you separated yourself enough now alabama because what happened they got conservative your defense they couldn't get off the field on fourth down oh joe uh georgia was one for 13 on third down but they were five for five on fourth down your defense can't get off the field your offense can't stay on the field so georgia is keeping you on the field 10 12 plays alabama's going three and out so you're bringing that tired defense right back on the field what do you think is going to happen and so the next thing you know now you're bringing that tired defense right back on the field. What do you think is going to happen?
Starting point is 01:04:28 And so the next thing you know, now you're out of rhythm. The other team is in rhythm, and now you're holding on for dear life. So I get it. It's a lot. I'm telling you, having been in both situations, Ocho, I believe it's easier to play from behind than it is with a lead because you can throw caution to the wind. Ocho, we already down 27. So what the hell I got to lose?
Starting point is 01:04:46 Let it rip. You know what's funny? Why couldn't Georgia play the way they did in the second half when you're throwing caution to the wind and start off the game like that? Start off the game like that. But I think, listen, if you were to write this story again
Starting point is 01:05:04 or write how you would want this game to go, there was no better ending than the one they had tonight. Listen, this has to be the best collegiate game of the year. And I'm not sure there's another game that will top it this year based on what we saw tonight. What we saw tonight was unbelievable. I thought the game was over. I left. I stopped watching the game was over. I left. I stopped watching the game and went and had a cigar break. I went and took a cigar break.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I come back in and Georgia got the lead. I'm like, wait a minute. What happened? I got to rewind my TV back and let it run forward to catch back up. Alabama DBs and any defensive back. Bro, stop celebrating when you break. If you can make a pick, make the pick. That's the difference between the good corners and the great corners.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Ed Reed was a safety, but he came down with the ball. Prime came down with the ball. Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson. It's not good enough. I'm doing my – no, no, no, no. I'm trying to take these possessions, the defensive possessions, and turn them into points.
Starting point is 01:06:11 So that's the Alabama, you know, oh, you strapping them down, but you do realize they got two more, they got two more downs to try to get a first down or maybe a touchdown. So while you're celebrating, and you should, hey, you happy.
Starting point is 01:06:23 But bro, if you can get your hands on the ball, bro, you gotta come down with it. Like the DB did in the last play of the game. That was a big time play. A freshman at that. A freshman at that. Yeah. I like that he played to a strength too. I'm wondering if it was the defensive coordinator's
Starting point is 01:06:38 choice to have him play off on that so he can get his head eyes around and on the ball as opposed to being impressed and be playing from trail and then having to turn around and look and losing the ball that's one of the reasons why he got that pick but another thing i want to say about about dbs is 95 percent of dbs play not to get beat and it's a small percentage about five percent of them that play to make a play. And that small percentage,
Starting point is 01:07:08 that 5%, are those that always turn out to be great. Always turn out to be great. That's the biggest difference between a college DB and an NFL DB, is the ability to track the football.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Ball skill. The really good... Ball skill. You know after a certain... Hey, if you notice watch watch the really great deep nfl dbs watch how soon they're like jam turn head back right away the ball's got to be coming up you're too far down the field for the ball not to be coming and so that's that's one of the difference and the skill set it is a skill i. I can't teach you that. You're born with that.
Starting point is 01:07:45 That is innate. Ed Reed's ability to find the football. Prime, ability to find the football. Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, any of these great corners. Trayvon Dees. That is God-given. Trayvon is a goddamn ball hog, man.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Yeah, goddamn ball hog. That's God-given. I can't teach you that, Ocho. That's instant. It is. And people don't understand that. And I've't teach you that it is and people don't understand that and I've made a comparison today if you watch Travis Hunter his ball skills are comparable to an
Starting point is 01:08:14 because you think about it he's made like two or three of those interceptions he's like he's playing off and he watches the corner and he's diving and laying out you watch him undercut that ball at Colorado State. Yeah. Bro, everybody can't do that.
Starting point is 01:08:29 That's pure instinct to be able to come off that and know it's coming. That's pure instinct. You know who you remind me of? Another player that has pure instinct and superior ball skills that doesn't get the credit they deserve. That guy, Amosante Samuel. Oh, yeah, yeah That guy, Samuel. That guy, Samuel. And Rivas is another one who doesn't get the credit.
Starting point is 01:08:50 We know he's in the Hall of Fame. We understand how great he is. We understand what he did that 2009 season and locking up all-time greats. But his ball skills, his technique, his patience, he'll ride you, and once you get past 10 yards,
Starting point is 01:09:06 man, that head come around so goddamn fast, you'll be able to locate that ball, and that's where half his interceptions came from. Yeah, but see, the thing is with him, like, those other guys, you could tell they were offensive guys because when they got eight, they ain't trying to knock it down. Ed Reed was trying to pick it and go to the house. Every time.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Prime, Woody. If you look at those guys, that's why you see them guys seven, eight, nine, ten, returns for touchdown because they're trying to take defense and automatically turn it into offense. And that is a God gift. I can't teach you that. Son, I can't teach you how to find the ball. I just can't. I can't teach you like, Son, I can't teach you how to find the ball. I just can't.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I can't teach you like, no, okay, here, this is a two-by-one. They're going to try to overlap this. I got to play two-by-one. Yes, I got the inside. I got to make sure the inside because I got the outside guy. I got two-by-one because I got to worry about the seam also, Ocho. But I got the goal route. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah, I know what y'all trying to do. I got this two-by-one. I'm going to overlap you. I'm going to make you think I ain't got this seam, but I'm going to pick, but I got the goal route. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know what y'all trying to do. I got this two by one. I'm going to overlap you. I'm going to make you think I ain't got this scene, but I'm going to pick it when you throw it. Oh, yeah. So it is an unbelievable game tonight. Alabama, Jalen Milrow was sensational again.
Starting point is 01:10:17 27-33, 374, two touchdowns. He had an interception. The tight end has to understand on the pick, he needs to widen because Jalen Milrow can see what he can't. If he'd have let him, he wouldn't have finished the rest of the game because that linebacker would have
Starting point is 01:10:38 decapitated the mocho. That's what you have to do. You have to widen the guy, widen him so Jalen Milrow can fit in. That's why he put it on his back shoulder, because if he'd have landed... Oh, you'd have been out. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:10:53 It's very smart of Milrow's part to know that. Just slowing down. Sometimes, listen, a quarterback can save you every time. A quarterback that's doing it can save you every time. That's the thing. The one that can save you, because anytime you get a collision, it's save you every time. That's the thing. The one that can save you. Because anytime you get a collision, it's the quarterback's fault. Because he can see what you can't.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I'm trusting you that you're not going to lead me to harm. I'm trusting you. I'm going to do everything I can. Either I'm going to catch it or I'm going to break it up. All I ask you is not have the ambulance come on the field to get me. So you're absolutely right. But the tight end, he needs to understand. But he's young.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You talk about something that I've over years, Ochoa, know. The widening. And sometimes you got to get, you know, you got to get hit in your head to understand that it hurts. Widen the guy. Give Jalen Milrow some room to protect you from the inside guy. But he went in there hard. Jalen Milrow tried to back shoulder he popped it up and in the process he was about to catch it but the db hit it and now hey that's safety for georgia 17 he could play nine i think it's 16 or 17 uh the white which one was it because he got a pick he can play no he could
Starting point is 01:12:04 play he gonna play on sunday definitely yeah he got a pick. He can play. No, he can play. He's going to play on Sunday. Yeah, he got that capability. And you don't see a whole lot of him. This is the funny thing about it. When you talk about going to the next level, this is the closest you're going to get to an NFL game. Because all the talent that are on the scene,
Starting point is 01:12:20 if you can stand out on film in a game like this, when in Georgia, when in Georgia, Alabama, where it's a bunch of five, four, four star, five star players. And you stand out on film like the safety you just called out. Well, you special. Yeah. That boy. Yes. That young boy that receiver that's only 17 years old. That Ryan Williams. Ryan Williams. I know you're going to see this. Listen, I know you're going to see this. Listen, I know you ain't old enough to drink.
Starting point is 01:12:45 He's special. I know you ain't old enough to party. But when you see this, boy, I need you to send me a DM. I need a jersey. Sign. I need a jersey signed. If I don't get a jersey signed in less than 24 hours, if you don't send me a DM in less than 24 hours,
Starting point is 01:13:00 you ain't getting none of that NIL money. Matter of fact, hold on. I know we're talking about Alabama-Georgia, right? I got to mess with two more players. Hold on. So they know I mean business. Hold on. Because they think I be...
Starting point is 01:13:11 Hold on. Go ahead. But there was a big-time game. There was a lot of big-time talent on the field. This game was littered with four- and five-star recruits. You look at the offense and defensive line. You look at the skill position. You look at the offense and defensive line. You look at the skill position. You look at the linebackers.
Starting point is 01:13:26 This is a, I mean, there's a reason why Georgia and Alabama nationally, year in and year out, in the top five in recruiting because when you play the brand of football and they see all those guys going to the NFL from the University of Georgia, from the University
Starting point is 01:13:42 of Alabama. Same thing with Ohio State and some of those Big Ten teams. Hey, I want to be like that. Hey, I want to be like Amari Cooper. I want to be like Jerry Judy and all these other guys that went from Alabama. Who is it? Calvin Ridley. And so I look at Georgia, and you see all those defensive players,
Starting point is 01:14:03 N'Kobe Dean, they had Walker, and they had Jalen, the big D tackle. They got two of them. Jordan Davis, what's his name? Oh, man. Huh? No, I know N'Kobe Dean, but Jalen, number 98 for the Philadelphia Eagles. They got two of them, Jordan Davis and the, what's Jalen's last name? Carter.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter. So when you see that pipeline, it's easy because the players recruit. Coach, you don't have to do a whole nother. Hey, y'all saw my resume. Y'all see, we got 60 guys in the NFL. We got 58 guys in the NFL. Hey, you see how much money Tua signed for?
Starting point is 01:14:47 You see how much this guy signed for? You see how much this guy signed for you see how much this guy signed for yeah absolutely so it's a lot easier to recruit when you have those guys doing uh doing that uh go ahead what you got so just let the boys know i'm not even playing i got three people three people in the chat, make sure they get this message. I know they're going to see this video. Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith, and Travis Honnell. I want a jersey. I want a jersey signed in less than you got 24 hours to send me a DM, get me a jersey down to Miami. If I don't have my jersey before Monday, before 8 o'clock Monday, ain't nobody getting no NIL money. And you know what that means.
Starting point is 01:15:30 You see, listen, I didn't got this on for nothing. Ain't none of y'all getting no NIL money no more. The rest of the season. Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith, and Travis Hunt. I want my jersey, FedEx, Monday morning. You know how to get my address. Ask your coaches. That's it. And I ain't even playing.
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