Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Allen for MVP, Packers look scary, what’s wrong in Philly?

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills narrowly defeating Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions in the highest scoring game this season, 48-42. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers beating Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday Night Football, Philadelphia Eagles DL coach Clint Hurtt and HC Nick Sirianni seen getting into it on the sideline and Unc and Ocho wonder what’s going on in Philly and much more!05:30 - Show Start05:43 - Intro08:00 - Packers vs. Seahawks14:30 - Bills vs Lions33:30 - Eagles & Steelers47:30 - Browns & Chiefs57:55 - Cowboys vs Panthers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's us all day. I mean, there's no other way around it. The Packers defeat the Seahawks 30-13. The Seahawks' four-game winning streak came to an end. Green Bay had 369 total yards. Seattle had 208 total yards. Russian yards was 140 for the Packers, 80 for the Seahawks. Passing stats, Jordan Love was 20 of 27, 229 yards, two touchdowns,

zero interceptions. Geno was 15 of 19 for 149, no touchdowns, one pick. He got Nick, and Sam Howell came in and filled him for him. Don't know the severity of the injury. Looked like it was an ankle injury, a lower leg injury. So we'll wait for the evaluation before we can give you a conclusive on what transpired with Geno. So hopefully

he missed the remaining of this game and it was nothing serious and he'll be able to come back and play next week. Ocho, when you watch the Green Bay Packers, I think because the Lions were playing so well that people kind of overlooked Green Bay and Minnesota. If I'm not mistaken, I think because the Lions were playing so well that people kind of overlooked Green Bay and Minnesota. If I'm

not mistaken, I think Minnesota is like 11-2 with a chance to go to 12-2 tomorrow. People kind of overlooked Green Bay, but Green Bay is a... Because remember, I think it was who that Minnesota had to take a last-second field goal, if I'm not mistaken,

to beat them, kick a last-second field goal if i'm not mistaken to beat him kick the last second field goal maybe maybe it was detroit maybe it was detroit that kicked that last second field goal in detroit uh and excuse me in minnesota to beat him but uh green bay got a good team they can run the football with josh jacob uh jordan love 20 or 27 tonight 229 yards two touchdowns defense is really good. And Zaire hadn't played. I don't know. Was Zaire in? Zaire didn't even play.

You know, they had... Yeah, he'd been Nick for a while. Covington was in there. But they're a good team. What do you like about what you saw from Green Bay and what you've seen thus far from the Packers? Yeah, listen, from the Packers, Jordan Love has been phenomenal all season.

And the funny thing about Jordan Love being phenomenal all season is this game against the Seahawks, they been phenomenal all season. And the funny thing about Jordan Love being phenomenal all season is this game against the Seahawks, they didn't even have to throw the ball. Josh Jacobs and that front line dominated the game from start to finish. I'm not sure what the Seahawks were doing defensively, but for some reason they kept standing that two-shell all night long and they continued to give the ball to Josh Jacobs over and over. And we're getting four a pop, seven a pop, eight a pop. And they refused to give the ball to josh jacobs over and over and we getting four pop seven a pop eight a pop and they refuse to come up they refuse to come out of it that two shell

until late in the third quarter when it was goddamn too late now at that point right and they started gaining a little ground when the momentum shifted you know in the seahawks favor a little bit obviously but but by that time it was too late. Honestly, you know, just to be honest with you, it was a shitty game. It was a boring game. It was a boring game. Geno didn't play fairly well. Once Sam Howell came into the game,

you know how the offensive playbook changes tremendously. You know, there's only so much he can do. He throws the interception. I mean, he got sacked twice, maybe three times, something like that. Listen, it was a good look for the Packers, the fact that they were able to play one-dimensional football, running the ball the entire night.

Romeo Dobbs had three catches, two of them for touchdowns. Outside of that, you know, it wasn't a huge day in the air, but on the ground, Josh Jacobs did his thing. Well, that's what you need to have happen. A team goes, jumps into that two-shell. You need to have your a team goes jumps into that two shell you need to have your running game be able to run them out of it um you should not allow someone to try to stop your running game with with a light box which is a seven man box they must drop that eighth guy down and now you play that now you throw you know you pitch and catch outside um

with the single single high safety in the hole. But I thought Green Bay did what they needed to do. You see the numbers, 20 of 27. So the ball really was never in harm's way. And that should have been higher because he missed some throws. He had Romeo Dobbs on over out. He threw it behind him. On a deep ball, he

underthrew every ball tonight and got past appearances. He underthrew Romeo Dobbs and ended up getting a field goal. If he throws it out there, he has wall and beat. That was a touchdown. So he could have easily been 23 of 27. Yeah. Instead of 20, instead of 20, 27.

Look, we're nitpicking here, Ocho, and I think sometimes we have to nitpick for the simple fact is that when you get to the playoffs, every possession matters. Every play matters and a under throw here or a misfire there could be the difference in winning and losing a ball game and so those are the things that you want to like you want to try to clean up heading into the playoffs because green bay is going to be in the playoffs i think three teams out of that that division is going to be in the playoffs detroit minnesota and green bay that's three teams so that means only one other team is going to make in the playoffs. Detroit, Minnesota, and Green Bay. That's three teams. So that means only one

other team is going to make it. Only one other wildcard team is going to make it, Ocho, because you got your four division winners. Detroit or what, Minnesota? Because now they're tied. Both have two losses. NFC East looks like

the Eagles are going to win that division. NFC South, Tampa is in control of that division now. We'll see what Atlanta does tomorrow night. And then the NFC West. Now, the NFC West is still wide open because you have Seattle, you have Arizona, you have the Rams right there nipping tough. So could two teams out of that division get in? Absolutely.

Absolutely. Two teams could get in out of that division. But Dallas is lurking. We'll talk about the Cowboys a little later today. They played maybe their best ball game of the year. Defensively, they got after Jordan Love, picked him a couple of times. Cooper Rush did a great job of throwing the ball. And Dowdle did a great job of running the football.

But I thought the Packers looked good. They did what they needed to do. You go on the road, Ocho, that's a long way to fly at night. And now you go, you know. And so a night game, the 12th man. But give Green Bay credit because they came out ready to play. They jumped on them early, 14-0, made them one-dimensional. So now you got to throw the football.

And once Geno got Nick, I think most people kind of knew that Sam Howell was not going to come in and move the needle, and he wasn't going to be able to do anything that was going to get Seattle back in the game. Charbonneau had a nice run, a 24-yard touchdown run, but it was, I don't think, he didn't put fear in anybody tonight. So congratulations to the Green Bay Packers. They moved to 10-4 with a 30-13 win over the Seattle Seahawks.

Seahawks are now 8-6. And if I'm not mistaken, they still lead the NFC West with the Cardinals right there along with the Rams. Ocho, what a game it was in Motor City. Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills go on the road and beat a team that had won 11 straight games in Jerry Goff and Detroit Lions, 48-42. The team, the highest scoring game this year. The team combined for 90 points, 1,080 total yards, 12 total touchdowns.

Josh Allen was sensational again, 430 total yards, four touchdowns, two in the air, two on the ground. Jerry Goff was equally as impressive, but not nearly enough. He had 507 total yards and five touchdowns, no interceptions. Remember, Ocho, it's funny how the NFL worked. You remember that game? He had five interceptions, and they won. He had five touchdowns, no turnovers, and they lose. That's just the way it goes.

Buffalo raced out to a 14-0 lead on two Josh Allen TD runs, and they never looked back. Buffalo, they're good, Ocho. The only thing that I question is Dan Campbell calling an onside kick with 12 minutes left in the ballgame. You're having a hard time stopping them. I'm not giving them a short field. The last thing I'm going to do

is give them a short field, Ocho. And you had the momentum. Now you give them a short field and now they go up by another score and you're fighting an uphill battle. But 48 to 42, I had some concerns about Detroit

and that defense. And it's starting to show its head a little bit, Ocho. Now, look, Josh Allen's not an easy guy to say. He's not an easy guy. Getting to him is the easy part. Getting his big ass on the ground is the tough part. He's like a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger. Absolutely.

Absolutely, he is. But this was a very, if you wanted points, ta-da, here it was, 48-42. And remember, they lost the game last week, 44-42. So they scored 90 points in the last two weeks. Good, good, love that. Bad. Ocho, we gave up 86, though.

Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. But listen, from a fan's perspective, they enjoyed this game. If you're a Buffalo fan, if you're a Lions fan, this is a game that you look forward to having. If you want to lose it in, maybe not so. But the fact that you know you can put up these kind of points

against good teams says now we need to work on the other half. Your goddamn defense. They put up 90-some points. What, 80-something? says, now we need to work on the other half. Your goddamn defense. Yeah. They put up 90-some point, what, 80-something? You're talking about Buffalo. Buffalo scored 42 last week.

They scored 42 this week. They gave up 44 last week to the Rams. They gave up 42. Now, both times they were on the road now. I mean, you know, you're on the road. But you're going to have to play a little better because it doesn't look like unless something happens with Kansas City, it's going to be tough for you to overtake them because they're two games clear of you.

For some reason, I just had this feeling it's the Bills' year. It's the Bills' year. Josh Allen is playing very, very well, very well. And if he happens to see the Chiefs again in the playoffs at some point, at any point, I think this is the year that they finally beat them. Josh Allen is playing out of this world. He's playing out of his mind. Again, early in the season, obviously, I had Lamar Jackson as my MVP.

But as of the past, what, maybe three, three, maybe four weeks, Josh Allen put that cape on, man. He was Clark Clinton at the beginning of the season. Now he's Superman. He's playing just like Superman

and what they're doing offensively with no superstars. There are no bona fide superstars over there in Buffalo. You know, you have very good, adequate role players that are doing their job very, very well. They run the football really well.

34 rushes, 197 yards, 14 rushes, 105, two touchdowns for James Cook, 11 carries for 66 yards, two touchdowns for Josh Allen. And I think that's the thing that when the voters look at it and say, hold on, he lost Stephon Diggs who's a Pro Bowl player he lost Gabe Davis who's a very good receiver you look at what they lost defense both of their safety

Travarius White excuse me Travarius White and he's doing this the only difference I see with Josh Allen this year in the previous years he's not this. The only difference I see with Josh Allen this year and the previous years, he's not turning it over. That's the biggest difference.

He's been this. Y'all, guys, he's been averaging, putting up 350 and 400 yards of total offense. But he gets himself into trouble when he turns the ball over. When they're going in to score and he throws an interception in the end zone and it's a touchback. He fumbles in the red zone when they're going to get points. That is the biggest difference in which I see with this team.

Plus, those guys aren't in his ear. Now, they scored 48 points. And if I'm looking at this, if my thing shows me correctly, I don't see Cooper with a target. Amari Cooper didn't get a target. And they dropped

48. Now, if somebody else didn't get a target last year, we know what's going to be transpiring. So now, he's the unquestioned leader of the entirety of the team. It's peace. Look at the way he's playing onquestioned leader of the entirety of the team. It's peace. Look at the way he's playing, Ocho.

He doesn't force. Look, now he did force one. He's rolling out of bounds, Ocho, and he throw right to the middle of the field. And he almost got it picked up by Johns. Why? Why? Why? Why?

He going to beat him a little bit. Every so often, he going to beat him. He is. And so, look, your defense is going to – if you get the Buffalo Bills, your defense best be on their best behavior because that's not an anomaly. Now, I'm not saying 48, but if you go back and look at it, they've got, what, eight straight games with at least 30? Yeah.

They're probably averaging 30 a game. I think they're nip and tuck right there with Baltimore, but they might have overtaken Baltimore, the highest scoring team in the NFL. Are they one or are they two? Because I know Baltimore, Detroit, and them, they were right there. But I think after these

last two games, I think Buffalo's overtaken them. But, hey, boy, you're going to have your hands full. Because this team offensively, and they got like, oh, it's just like, oh, you got Shakur doing his thing that he's so hard to get on. I his thing that he's so hard to get on i mean

josh is just so hard to get on the ground and then you got to worry about his legs because now oh joe i can't really rush like i want to because if i if i run past him he's gonna jump out the window if i don't keep if i keep if i let him get outside of the pocket he can throw on the move and he still can go get me a first down even if it's third and 15 so it's so hard to defend him you just hope that he makes some mistakes he gets anxious and he starts and he turns the ball over but if he's calm like he's been playing like the last three to four weeks well you got your hands full listen you you gotta you gotta be you gotta be disciplined on defense if anything especially with knowing that he's a dual threat, you got to tell your D.A.s, bring your ass upfield and keep contained.

And level off. Yeah, and keep contained and level your ass off. Now, if you have to have a spy, you know, because he's a dual threat quarterback, you got to have a spy to your side. You got to keep your discipline. Keep your discipline. If he runs, just make sure you bring him down. You got to make the tackle, especially in man-to-man, because

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Don't do that. Because all he's going to do is step out. He's going to step out the window on you. And like you said, when you got your back turn now good luck with that but he is he's a big he's playing extremely well um the guys are making plays for him uh coleman came back today had a big catch kincade is finally back he's making catches uh shakira is his safety blanket um james cook you know catching out of the backfield that look this they're really good they're a really good football team um they're

playing extremely well right now um is there a team in the afc that has the possible weapons that what detroit had or the rams have because I haven't seen it consistently. We know the Ravens give or take. Not those kind of weapons? Uh-uh. No. Yeah. Lions are first in points scored, second in total offense.

Bills are second in points scored, eighth in total offense. That's crazy. They keep playing like this. They're going gonna be first in total they're gonna be first in points yeah be first in points scored but uh they have they have a team that's that's that's really good like i said i didn't agree with dan campbell with 12 minutes left in the game oh joe kicking a side kick yeah i don't agree with that listen that's been dan he's always been who he is listen he has some big cojones and he wears them matter

of fact he walks down he walks on the sideline with a wheelbarrow with his nuts in the wheelbarrow and that's how he coaches that's how he plays he goes for it on four down he goes for you he does on sidekicks and his players believe in him he believes in his players and I think that's why he makes some of the calls that he makes. That most players, I mean, most players and analysts and pundits like yourself, you just wouldn't agree with based on the situation. Joe Brady not calling the shots. The Bills are firing on all cylinders. Ken Dorsey, if I'm not mistaken, he's calling the plays in Cleveland now, isn't he?

Isn't he in Cleveland? But I feel bad for him because Jameis is a turnover machine. Check this out. The Lions and the Chiefs are 25-1 against the rest of the league. They're 0-2 against the Bills. The Lions never led. The Chiefs' biggest

lead was one, and they trailed the entire second half. Of the teams that look like they're headed to the playoffs. Once the Bills jumped out, Once the Bills jumped out, once the Bills jumped out, boy, it's an uphill battle from there.

It's an uphill battle from there. Tonight, once the Packers jumped out on the Seahawks, it's an uphill battle. You know, put yourself behind the eight ball. It makes it that much more

difficult to beat a good team. This is a good team with a great offense it's difficult yeah you're you're right Ocho I think the thing is for me the question I wanted to ask you is that do you believe of the team that look Buffalo Baltimore Kansas City there are certain teams Pittsburgh uh there are certain teams that we have a good indication that they're going to make the playoffs are the Bills the scariest team?

you know what I think so I think so, now when you say are the Bills the scariest team, are you speaking AFC or NFC? I'll let you combine them all. If you had to say,

if you had to put some amount of money that mattered to you, who would you put your money on? Right now? You know what? I'd probably put it on the Bills. You know?

And that's because of the quarterback situation. Now, I also look at the Lions as being very scary as well. But golf doesn't scare me. Golf doesn't scare me. The players around him scare me.

Montgomery scares me. Gibbs, Jamison Williams, you know, Amon, Ross, St. Brown, they scare me. But something about that goddamn Josh Allen and his supporting cast fits him so well in what they do. Man, that shit is scary.

So if I had any amount of money going into the playoffs and had to bet on somebody to win a game, it'd be them goddamn Bills, especially right now with the way they playing. Yeah. And the thing with Detroit is that, Ocho, if you look, they have 15 rushes for 46 yards. They threw the ball 59 times.

You see how unbalanced they are? When they win games, they're a very balanced team. They don't get that lopsided. I mean, that's a – they threw the ball – that's a 25 – that's basically 15, so it's four. That's 25, so 60, what, 75% of the time. But you know why? They were behind eight balls. Once you fall behind like that in the beginning of the game you down 14 okay boom now i'm panicking

i got to find ways to get back into the game and what's the one way to get back to the game very fast oh you got to let that bitch rip yeah but what happens when you go three and out or you don't and you don't convert now you let that high power get right back on your defense already tired yep but the bills look really good josh allen look he must have watched lamar say man look here lamar did what he did against uh the giants five touchdowns no interceptions uh but he said hold up let me leave something. Let me put something on your mind.

I know y'all saw that, but I want to put something on your mind right quick. Ocho, the defense injuries are finally catching up. Think about it. Aiden Hutchinson is out. Ayla McNeil, Carlton Davis, Alex Lazzoni, Derek Barnes, Martin, Dorsey, Rake Straw Jr., Mosley, Ochoa. At some point in time, think about those are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. That's 10 guys.

Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, all of them aren't starters. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you try to play 18 guys. Well, 10 of them have been injured. Hutchinson is a starter. Davis is a starter. McNeil. Alex Ozone, he's a starter. Those guys are starters. Listen, we talk about winning. We talk about playoff football.

We talk about getting to the Super Bowl. People think it's all about playing good. The most important thing is health. The most important thing is health in your roster. Seeing how many people on the back end of the season going into the headed into the playoffs are healthy everybody gonna be hurt everybody's gonna be we talk about healthy and able to actually play the game so this is tough for them and we'll see if they're able they're able to overcome some of the injuries

that they do have at key positions i hope i hope carton is okay. Some of the mid-level players are hurt right now. Obviously, Aiden Hutchinson is out. And it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. And you can say next man up, but the next man is the next man for a reason. So sometimes telling the next man to step up

ain't really giving what it should be giving, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Sometimes, Ocho, the next man is the man that was after the next man that was up. So he was the next next man. He was the man that was next to the man.

So that's your problem right there. Tyron Johnson said Lions players were putting fingers where they're not supposed to be on the onside kick scrum wait wait whoa whoa whoa whoa wait bring that to me again now tyron johnson said lions players were putting their fingers where they're not supposed to be on the onside kick screen. I would

need a little bit more context to that. You don't need no context. What you putting your finger in on the onside? What you putting it? Poking somebody in the eye? Nah, you ain't poking nobody in the eye. Yeah, that's a new one for me, Unc.

I ain't never been on the whole side yeah you know what's going on you know what's going on that pile they're trying to get that ball ain't nobody oh oh oh oh yeah okay okay okay okay okay yeah oh they be digging in the eye but not that one hey one thing about it where they do anything under that power boy they don't play yeah they get that ball oh yeah i got to have that i mean if you're a one-eyed baby that's the idea talking about but i don't think i'm just saying if you is that hey hey they don't play, boy. Nah. Hey, I need the ball. I'm going to do anything. Hey, man, they'll grab anything.

Hey, guys be screaming, hey, man, ref, he got my private. They don't say private. Like, man, well, let go of the ball then. Ref can't see that. Ref can't see that. He's like, hey, if you let go of the ball, they're going to let go of it hey if you let go the ball they gonna let go yeah hey we need the ball that's the most valuable thing right now hey you don't know who it is but uh oh joe the eagles beat the steelers in the battle of pennsylvania 27 13 after three

consecutive weeks of being held over 180 yards jalen hur Hurts was 25 of 32, 290 with a pair of touchdowns. Brown and Smith both went over 100 yards, marking the fourth time they've achieved this feat, setting a new record for the most such games by a duo in Eagles history. Hurts, the approach was a little different this week. The grass will be greener where you water it, where you decided to water the pass game. And that's the kind of truth that you saw by label like that yeah yeah the grass is green on the other side if you water

it if you fertilize it if you tend to it right you always got to you it's all about upkeep sometimes you know sometimes it don't matter where you go you know as long as you got some grass over there it's all about the details. Being sharp. Paying attention. Everybody ain't really got the discipline, though. Very few got the discipline to take care of the grass where it's green. You hear me?

But anyway, that goddamn game was good, though. I can tell you that. The game was good, and it didn't take a turn for the worst for the Steelers until Najee Harris fumbled. Fumbled that ball, yeah. When he fumbled that ball, you know, it was a little haywire. But what the Eagles did after that on both sides of the ball was impressive.

Yeah, the Eagles dominated the game. Offensively and defensively. They looked good. It would have been interesting to see Ocho had he not fumbled that ball. But you got to realize they got their points now because T.J. Watt punched the ball out of Jalen Hurts. So, I mean, if we're being honest about it, I mean, you think about it. Russell Wilson was 14 of 22 for 128 yards.

They ran the ball 17 times for 56 yards. So they had less than 200 yards. As a matter of fact, to be quite honest 56 yards so they had less than 200 yards as a matter of fact to be quite honest with you they had less than 190 yards of total offense excuse me you're not going to win very many games with 190 yards of total offense unless your defense takes the ball away five six times a couple scooping scores pick sixeses. Other than that, and you sacked the opposing quarterback five, six, eight, nine times. But to get no sacks and to get, what, he had one turnover?

Well, Cooper DeJohn fumbled on the punt. That's how they really got the touchdown. DeJohn fumbled on that punt. But other than that, they really didn't move the ball offensively, Ocho. This was probably the most this was their worst offensive performance since Russ was inserted back into the starting lineup.

This was – hey, the Eagles dominated this. They got out. Listen, it's the fact – it's okay. I think it's okay and it's good that Russ got ahead of a game like this. They had a game like this, and they didn't just play against anybody. They played against the Eagles. The Eagles team has won, what, 10, 9, 10, almost 10 in a row. So to see them have a game like this is understandable,

and I want to say it's okay. I want to say it's okay. Boom, we're back to the drawing board. What do we need to do better going forward from here? Because when we do play good teams like the Eagles at some point that we'll probably have to face at some point maybe in the playoffs or a team that's in the AFC that we might have

to face in the playoffs, what do we need to do better? How do we execute our offense? Because I saw so many goddamn three and outs three and outs three and outs from the goddamn Steelers where they could never get themselves into a rhythm offensively. They couldn't run the ball.

That goddamn Jalen Carter. I told you. They got them playing. That D-line with Williams and Carter and Davis with Sweat. They playing.

They got them two guys in the middle. Zach Brown and Nicole Dean. Them boys playing some ball, boy. Yeah, man. So, listen, there was a collapse. They had a collapse last year. They were 10-1, and they collapsed the remainder of the season. That ain't happening this year.

Not with the way that defense is playing. Absolutely not. There was a situation on the sideline i think sarayana was trying to talk to uh uh jaylen carter uh the d-line coach i've never seen a team that has such prosperity but damn they argue about every day constantly dysfunction. I'm like, damn. I would really hate to see if they would lose. So, Ocho, if we 12-2, we're 11-2, we're 10-2, and we're arguing and we're bickering on the sideline, what the hell would it be if we 6-6 or we 6-6?

What? You know what? It could be a sign. It could be a testament. It could also be a good thing. It could be a good thing. You never be, it could be a good thing. You never know what it is. Obviously I can't say what it is,

especially from the outside looking in, you know, players are passionate. Coaches are passionate. Wanting everybody to be on the same page, not celebrating too early, being that the game was, was,

was somewhat close because it could have been an issue as well. But it's, it's a good thing to see that the coaches care, to see that the players care and to see that the players care, and that everybody's on one accord with the same understanding, with the same end goal in mind. Let's keep that focus on what we're here for and why we're doing what we're doing. Right. Them Georgia boys, they got like four guys starting.

They got N'Kobe Dean. They got Carter. They got Dean. They got Carter. They got Davis. They got Nolan Smith Jr. I mean, they got a lot of guys that's starting that's from the University of Georgia, the Bulldogs, them dogs. But they're playing really, really well. Now, I saw Washington driving Slay out of the back.

I've never seen a guy get blocked that long that far. Hey, that's where Ocho, that's where you just drop. And I know Slay didn't want to get dropped because he didn't want to be, oh, I got pancake. He know they're going to show it on SportsCenter. But, bro, when the man drive you 30 yards out of the back of the end zone, put your back up against the wall, that's going to get showed, too. I mean, it just

is on show. You know it. But hey, he likes 6'8", like 270. So it wasn't nothing Slade could do. I think, obviously, just speaking on that play in general, I think it's unfair when they change the rules, when guards and tackles pull

on sweeps, you know, or misdirection plays. Now that the corners and safeties are at a disadvantage. Oh, you know, and misdirection plays. Now that the corners and safeties are at a disadvantage. Oh, you can't cut them. Huh? You can't cut them, Mo. You can't create a pile. No, no. You know, so I think it's almost unfair.

I mean, the DBs and safeties are at a disadvantage, huh? You know, giving up almost 150 pounds. Yeah, but you hurt somebody. And see, here's the thing. They say, are you trying to make it safe? Because you know guys, hey, guys don't want the knee shots. They do guys, hey, stay on my knees, man, stay on my knees. They don't really let you cut in the interior line like we used to when you and I was in the back.

And so they say, look, we're going to protect, we're going to try to protect everybody, obviously. Heavy emphasis on the quarterback. But I like that rule, because man, them guys going out there, them guys just trying to take, and even on the run back, Ocho, they won't let you, the quarterback used to try to take the blockers out. They won't let him do that anymore.

And so that's always been a rule on the kick team. You can't block below the waist, but the Eagles look good. The Eagles look good, and I said this about three weeks ago. I'm not so sure if Detroit and the Eagles play. I'm not so sure I wouldn't take the Eagles. I'm almost certain I would take the Eagles.

Detroit? I would. Yeah. Hey. Because the Eagles have something that very few teams in the NFC have. They front seven can go get home.

And we know Goff is not mobile. That's Josh Allen that you try to get to him and get his ass on the ground. You can get to Jared Goff. But also, remember now, you still got to deal with that running game. You still got to deal with that running game.

You still got to deal with the running game. And if things are balanced, there's a good dose of running, there's a good dose of pass. Listen, Detroit can be very dangerous, despite that loss today. They ain't no slouch. No, they're not. But you know Philly, they love to play 2-shell. They believe they can stop your run with their front seven and i don't see any reason why i haven't seen anything to make me

to make me feel that they can't because those big boys up front that d line is is vicious they go they get after you and they did a great job on the steelers today uh the eagles look really really good 27 13 27-13 winners over the Pittsburgh Steelers who fall to 10-4, but still lead the AFC North. Yeah, we talked

about that. The team was leading by 14 in the fourth quarter. We're to see coaches yelling at each other. Yeah. If I'm a team i'm doing everything i can to try to get a lead on the eagles because you know they don't they they they start falling fighting up fighting and bickering yeah that's what i got i got i got to see it that's what i want to see that's all i want to see ocho i want to see if if if calmer heads will prevail but then i want to get a lead and then see, you know,

hey, what I'm going to do to A.J. Brown, I'm going to double him early. I'm going to frustrate him. You see the kind of day he had today, though, huh? Yeah. Yeah? I knew that was coming. I knew that was coming. Anytime, I mean, listen, it's just the way the NFL works,

just the way it works in general. You know, you have a day where it's bad like that, you say some things, and then the passing game today, look like they ain't miss a beat. But like you said, Ocho, Steelers do a great job of stopping the run. The passing game better do something today or you're going to get beat. I absolutely knew this would be what happened today because they're so good. Listen, they top five in defense, the Steelers, especially against the run.

So I knew they were going to have to put the ball in the guy that had some type of success. And they were playing this game without George picking. But I'm going to tell George Porter Jr. this. Bro, they're not going to call that push-off. When he opens you up outside and then he clubs you,

they're not going to call that. So you can tell the official he's doing this all he wants to. They're not going to call it. First of all, it's within five yards of the line of scrimmage. So, bro, you're going to have to get in the weight room because you're a little light right now.

You're going to have to be able to clamp up because these guys, hey, these big receivers like A.J. Brown, they're going to play through contact. Every time. They're going to play through contact. It's all about understanding your personnel. understanding what you can and can't do against certain receivers there's some receivers you know they physical you can either get physical

with them or use what you have to your advantage that they don't your quickness being quick being twitchy you know and just shot on just shot them them. Just shout on them. You got to understand your opponents. You got to play everybody different, you know, and what works best for you. Yeah, you can, yeah. Okay. Russell Wilson offense needs George Pickens to get back after scoring 27 points in the first game without picking. The Steelers offense scored just 13 managed 163 total yards lost the time of possession by nearly 20 minutes.

The 163 yards was the fewest in a game since week two of 2010. So in almost 14 years, almost 14 years since they are. Excuse me. That's 15 years since they had that few yards. But the Eagles are really good defensively. They dominated the game, dominated time of possession. So when you see a team

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to finish for the Chiefs. Andy Reid, head coach Andy Reid, said it's a little sore. It's literally day-to-day. He probably could have come back in, but he wanted to go back in, but there was no need for that. Mahomes will have more tests on the ankle of Monday.

If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, they play Saturday at home against the Houston Texans and then follow that up on Wednesday against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ocho, I just thought, they talk about three-peat. They just got to hope

that Mahomes can finish healthy. If you watch this game, he's running for his life. Oh yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Not only is he running for his life, listen, the offensive line play, no disrespect to the players, the offensive line play, no disrespect to the players,

the offensive line play there has been bad all season, huh? That ain't nothing new. Yes. It's been bad all year. It's been abysmal all year. There's nothing that they can do. My homes can't complain. I mean, who are you going to complain to?

You got to play through it and just hope at some point, you know, you have the right schemes, you have the right game plans and what you can do, but still, it's not working. It's not working. They try to stay as balanced as they possibly can. You know what?

I think they should do. I think Mahomes should relax on Saturday. Relax the Houston game. Who's the backup? Who's the backup again? Carson Wentz see yeah

Carson Wentz has enough enough cachet you know and he knows how to win and manage a game I would let Carson Wentz take over this Saturday against the Texans

and let Mahomes come back on Wednesday what you think Mike I mean I'm just I mean that's that's just that's just how I feel let my homes come back on Wednesday. What'd you think? My, I mean, I'm just, I mean, that's,

that's just, that's just how I feel. It's going to be interesting to see, um, Buffalo. I think Buffalo has an easy schedule, uh, easier of the schedule.

If you say that they got the pay, they got the Patriots twice. They got the Eagles. that they got the Patriots twice they got the Eagles excuse me the Patriots twice they got the Jets and then who else do they have I know they got the Patriots twice

the Jets is that it the Bills Patriots twice Jets the Bills. Patriots twice, Jets. That's it? That's it. So they got the Patriots.

Think about it. They got the Patriots twice and the Jets. Oh, that's not fair. That's not fair. But you know what's funny? That could be a trap game. Boy, anytime you play a divisional opponent, you don't think so? Have you seen the Patriots play? Have you seen the Patriots play? Yeah.

Okay. Ain't no trapping. Listen. They better hope Buffalo get trapped in Buffalo. That's the only trap. You got to win if they get trapped. You know games like that man. Teams always surprise each other. You know why the the pages come out there and do something crazy for four quarters and stumble up on a win it happened all the time i don't know why it happened like

that but it just happens all the time especially with a team that's been dominating the way buffalo is and kansas kansas city hou Houston at home Pittsburgh on the road Denver on the road and Denver's playing really really well Denver had them on the ropes last time if you don't remember they ended up blocking the field blocking the kick at the end of the game

football guys on the Chiefs side all season long man yeah and here's the thing. Because Buffalo beat Chiefs head-to-head, if they finish with the same record, Buffalo gets home field throughout. That ain't really some way I would want to play and have home field advantage anyway, honestly.

For me, this Buffalo looks different. Because even last year, Josh still turned the ball over a lot. And he put the ball in harm's way a lot. He hasn't done that this year. Now, remains to be seen come playoff time. Pressure ramps up. Expectations ramps up.

Especially if he continues to play like this, Ocho. I think it's a two-horse race between he and Lamar Jackson for the MVP. Pittsburgh did a job that kind of hurt Saquon's MVP chances. So I think it's a two-horse race between Lamar and Josh Allen. Josh

is playing extremely, extremely well. I think he has 12, 10, 12 rushing touchdowns. He has another 25 passing touchdowns. Lamar's playing out of his mind. Lamar had five touchdowns today, so he's probably what, 33-3? I missed that.

That's the one game I couldn't see, man. He was balling. I was on the plane. Yeah, he had five. He had about 290 yards passing, five touchdowns. Mm-hmm. So I think it's out of those two.

But Josh just keeps doing it so many. I mean, it's every week. I mean, we saw what he did last week. He's the first guy since 1954 to throw for three touchdowns, rush for three touchdowns. He backed that up with two touchdowns, another two touchdown rushing, another two touchdown passing. And he's kind of been doing that the entire season.

It's always going to be very, very interesting. I really think it's a two-horse race. I don't think anybody else is in the conversation currently. That's just me personally. Now, somebody might say, well, what about this guy? What about that guy? I think it's a two-horse race now. And I don't see anybody knocking Josh Allen off. The Patriots, I don't see it.

Now, like you said, they could rise up and play unbelievable, still lose, but suppress some of Josh's numbers. But if he doesn't, I just don't see the Eagles. I just don't see, Steve, I keep don't see Steve, I keep saying the Eagles, the Patriots. I just don't see, without him turning the ball over, I just don't see how they score, have enough offense to score. Damn, man.

You right. You right by that, man. Golly, man. It just, something about them games late in the season, I'm telling you, especially when it comes to divisional games, it get tricky. I'm telling you, especially when it comes to divisional games, it gets tricky. It gets real tricky.

Even, listen, Buffalo is playing really, really well. I don't know what it is. It happens. I see it. We see it every year late in the season. Kansas City, Ocho, they just don't have any explosive plays. Everything is nickel and dime. I mean, you look at Patrick Mahomes, he's 10 of 11 because everything is a shallow frost.

Everything is a smoke screen. Everything is a spot route. There's nothing that they're pushing the ball down the field. But hold on. This is what it was last year, too. It was nickel and diamond. The year before that, it was nickel and diamond. You got to think, the explosive plays, the last time the Chiefs had

those explosive plays that we're used to seeing, well, hell, when Tyreek was there, that was what, three, four years ago? But they could occasionally get down the field with bad ass kids. Every so often? No. And that was 50-50. Yeah, true.

But Ocho, the offensive line is worse now than it was last year. I don't think, think about it. They kicked Joe Tunney from left guard out to left tackle. That's how bad it's gotten. And so now he's playing out of position. Kudos to him because, look, my first game at left tackle and I got to go against Miles Garrett? What the hell is this all about?

The offensive line is worse. And the defense, look, clearly, I don't know. God must have been busy when Jameis Winston prayed about, you know, turning the ball over. But he did it again today. Three interceptions, Ocho. Three. He had what? He had four in a fumble against the Broncos. He had turned

the ball over about three times last week. He turned the ball over three times. You know, the thing that, look, I understand, but when you say that's not who I am, turning the ball over is exactly what you're doing. That's been your MO. You turned the ball over your sophomore year at Florida State. You came into the league turning the ball over is exactly what you want. That's been your MO. You turn the ball over your sophomore year at Florida State.

You came into the league turning the ball over. He's only had one season in which he hasn't turned the ball over double digit as far as interceptions. We ain't even counting the fumbles, Ocho. We're just talking about picks. But when I just look at the Chiefs, Ocho, I mean, it's just like every play, Mahomes is running for his life.

He's trying to throw jump passes. He's getting pulled down. He's throwing the ball. He's scrambling. He's running for his life. I just don't see how they – I just don't – you look. I understand last year. Last year, it ain't got nothing to do with this year.

I just don't see. If he were to win the Super Bowl with that offensive line you might have to call him to go because we've never seen anything like it with the offensive line that bad that offensive line that bad yes oh man and one of the things that makes the that makes the Chiefs so great is their ability to adapt, to adjust, and make the necessary changes, you know, in season, you know, that they need to make. So this will be a testament to how great their coaching is, you know,

because this is when it counts. In today's game, one of the Chiefs' biggest issues were their inability to manufacture takeaways. 12-1 record, the Chiefs had produced just 10 turnovers, which was tied for third fewest in the league. Today, the Chiefs became the third team in the last 15 seasons to log six-plus takeaways plus five sacksacks in the game at least five sacks in the game the chief six takeaways were the most in a game since kansas city week three took the ball

away from the jets eight times in 2016 oh joe the cowboys beat the panthers 30 to 14 coming off the deflating loss to the bingos on Monday, the Cowboys responded on a short week. With the exception of one play, Bryce Young, the defense smothered Bryce Young. The offense was efficient and a reconfigured offensive line, and Cooper Rush had his first three-touchdown game of his career. At 6-8, the Cowboys still have a chance to make the playoffs, even if it's faint. They have a milk chance, 2%.

With another loss, it goes down to skin. Hold on. Even with a 6-8 record, the Cowboys still have an opportunity, have a chance to make the goddamn playoffs. Yeah, 9-8. They're going to have to get to somehow. They got to get to 9-8 and then hope

somebody in the West sponsors. Because you're getting three teams. First of all, you're getting three teams. First of all, you're getting three teams. First of all, you're getting three teams out of the NFC North because those teams already have 10 wins. So you got two teams that are

11-2, a 10-4, and a 12-2. So you already got three teams above team. So those three teams are going to the playoff automatically. Now, the NFC South is going to get a team in. The NFC West could potentially

get two teams in because what's your column? 8-6. Seattle's 8-6. What's Arizona? They're 7-7. Okay, they're 500. What's the Rams? Okay, see?

What's the Rams? You got two teams already at 8-6. Damn. So, they got to win out and then hope something tragically happened something happens to one of the uh the rams or the seahawks it ain't gonna happen could you imagine the cowboys make it though can you imagine the cowboys make it to the playoffs and get their eyes beat out and get their eyes beat out oh oh we're gonna find out because guess what?

They got the Bucs on Sunday night. The Bucs are really good. Baker's playing really well. Hold on. The Cowboys got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Next Sunday night. In Jerry's world? Yep.

Man, you see the Bucs hung up 40 today, right? I sure saw that. Mike Evans was back. Mike Evans said, I ain't trying to let my 5-yard streak go just yet. I wonder how many yards he got to go before he hit it. He got three games left, right? I know he need a 400-something.

Well, he need probably that 300-something now. 250. He could make it. He could make it. Yeah, but here's the thing the big the game might come down uh what's uh what's uh the commander's record they're 86 or they're 96 they're 95 so they win another game what you call them can't catch them. So there goes your wild card right there. They're done. All Washington has to do is win one game.

That gets them to 10 wins. The Cowboys can't get to 10 wins. The best they can do is get to 9. There it goes right there. Washington wins one more game. Washington has they have the Cowboys, they're at Dallas. I think they got the Eagles again and then the Giants

Eagles, Falcons, Cowboys oh they gonna get the Falcons all they gotta do is get to hey get to 10 and you're in so basically you think so you think the Cowboys are going to make it like the bowl right all they got to do is strike out

and I lock you out so basically what you're saying is the Cowboys are probably going to make the playoffs no they're not you don't believe them at all what percentage if Washington gets one more win they get to 10 the Cowboys can't get to 10

wins alright the Cowboys okay CeeDee Lamb about 8 catches here at 8 okay Detroit's 12-2

Eagles 12-2 Eagles 12-2 right now if the playoffs were to start today number one seed would be Detroit number two would be the Eagles number three would be the Bucks number four would be the Rams the number one wild card would be Minnesota at 11-2

Green Bay at 10-4 the Commanders at 8-9 Seattle at 8-6 Arizona at 7-7 Falcons at 10-4. The Commanders at 8-9, 9-5. Seattle at 8-6. Arizona at 7-7. Falcons at 6-7. 49ers at 6-8. The Cowboys at 6-8. So they're 12. Only 16 teams.

So C.D. Lamb played great today. He had eight catches for 105 yards on the touchdown in the first half securing his fourth straight 1000 yard season he finished with nine catches for buck 16 rico dotto had also had an outstanding game 25 carries a buck 49 his best game as a pro uh the cowboys ran the ball 40 times 211 yards when. When you can run it, you see how easy it is for the fans to take off a jump. But the defense was outstanding.

Golston, a sack. Michael Parsons, two sacks and a tackle for loss. Lewis, a sack, tackle for loss. Lawson, sack, tackle for loss. Six. Lawson sack, tackle for loss. It had six sacks, seven tackle for losses, and they

picked off Bryce Young twice. Well, if you do that, good chance you're going to win the game. Yeah. Listen, Dallas, they were playing the Panthers And the Panthers have been playing really good football The past three or four weeks

Bryce Young has been playing Really really good football You know the past three or four weeks They've been competing They might have been losing But they've been doing something we haven't seen them do all year They've been competing and been in games All the way up until the last minute

The Cowboys defense today, obviously a ton of... They came to play. They came to play. They definitely came to play. They had a ton of penalties, a handful of turnovers, and they still had a good showing.

They still had a good showing. It was good. It was good. So, Cowboys trying to hold on, say, hey, let's play this thing out. That game last week really hurt them a lot. That game against the Bengals really hurt the chances. What you mean hurt them? I hope you don't think they was

going to beat us. Well, if y'all had played, if they'd had any quarterback other than Will Levis today, y'all would have lost. What? Did you see Chase? Did you see T. Higgins? Did you see us today? We'll get that in a minute.

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