Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Argentina ADVANCES To World Cup FINAL + CJ McCollum SPEAKS on NBA Contract TAXES

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Messi and Argentina knocking out England and CJ McCollum on taxes from NBA contracts! Subscribe to Nightcap presented ...by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction03:13 - Argentina beats England to reach World Cup final38:15 - CJ McCollum on Taxes on NBA contracts (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:00 As a matter of fact, I know you can. Please, Drake responsibly and stay safe. Well, we know who Spain's going to play in the World Cup final. Argentina came from behind scores twice in six minutes against England to reach the World Cup, trailing one nothing, going into the 85th minute, Inzo Fernandez substituted for Lottado, Lutado Martinez, both scored.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Messi had largely kept quite until he fed Fernandez to equalize from outside the box in the 85th minutes. And with two minutes and stop his time, Messi said across to Martinez's winner completing two assists in the two one victory. Guess what, Ocho? Yes, sir. He just won the golden boot. Yeah, I mean, listen.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Oh, yeah. Because he got eight goals and what, four assists now? Yeah. Hey, can I tell you something? Just to talk about this real quick. For those of you in the chat, they didn't watch the game.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Joe and Unk, I mean, obviously you watched the game. England dominated the first 50s. Hey, listen, let me finish. The first 50 minutes of the game, Unk and Joe, they dominated the game. Upon that domination
Starting point is 00:07:07 and attacking effort from them, they happen to score a goal, right? Yeah. They score a goal. You know what their head coach decided to do? What's that? Park it. We're going to park the bus,
Starting point is 00:07:18 change the formation. change the tactics and just play defense. They changed the formations to a 5-4-1. Harry came up top by himself, five people in the back, another layer of four players, and that's what they decided to do. So what we're going to do is
Starting point is 00:07:35 we're not going to play to win the game. We're not going to keep attacking. We're going to sit back and hope we can withstand whatever pressure they apply. And long behold, look what happens. That's too early to do. going to prevent defense. Thank you. We understand that, you know, prevent,
Starting point is 00:07:55 a lot of times it prevents you from winning the game. But I understand you don't want to give up anything, guys. You don't want to give up anything. We have a saying, Joe, in football, nothing cheap, nothing deep. Right. We get a lead, nothing cheap, nothing deep. But you can't play like that in the second damn quarter.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And you know how much time left on the clock at the 58th minute, 60th minute? Yeah. How much time left in the game? You still got damn there 40 minutes. because if stoppage, you got to feel you're going to have somewhere between four and eight minutes of stoppage time. Yes. So you figure you got at least 40 plus minutes to go with 58 minutes on the clock.
Starting point is 00:08:30 You got at least 40 minutes. I don't know why they did what they did. Argentina has eliminated England from the World Cup in dramatic fashion. Once again, at 2026 to the 1986, hand of God ball from Diego Maradona. Maradona. And the 1998, David Beckham. red card game.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Joe, you go to the game, Joe, it's right there in your neighborhood. No, I didn't go, I didn't go, okay, Ocho, but man, Argentina has been exciting to watch. You know what I mean? They, I mean, because they're very good at scoring, you know, at opportune times, okay, Ojo. And this is a classic game of that, bro. Hey, just when you think you can count their ass out,
Starting point is 00:09:12 boy, they come through some way somehow. I'm like, how in the hell? Hey, Ocho, the goat debate, that shit out the one of the one. under partner. I mean, hey, hey, hey, Joe, you hear me? Listen, listen. I mean, that's for you. I mean, listen. No, no, no, no. Listen, I want you to understand something. I want you to understand something. Yeah. I'm watching messy, bro. He pretty much played on their right side pretty much the whole game. Yeah. And you know, when we talk about grace, Uncle Ocho, we talk about guys who can make
Starting point is 00:09:42 the game easier for the guys around them. Yeah. Because of all the attention and attraction that he causes in the game. Bro, he didn't score a damn goal, but them two damn passes he made, especially that second one with what buddy got the header? Yeah, he leaves. Oh, my God. Come on.
Starting point is 00:09:59 How the man? He's way over there, Ocho. It's just like he's like, hey, there you go. Yeah. Hey, hey, head the ball into the net. Hey, he put it where only his man can get to it.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Listen, he's one of the best, uh, Uncle, Joe. I understand how great he is, Joe. I get it. I get it. Now, again, as greatest messy is, And I say it all the time. Many, many, you know, say he's the goat. But I would never move off of my preference of style of playing
Starting point is 00:10:27 what Kershano is done in his prime years. You know, he's still the preference for me, but Messi is undeniable. He's undeniable, and I never say anything bad about him. I understand his greatness. I get it. I don't know what you could say if you wanted to say something bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 He took home hormone as a kid in order to get a decent height? Yeah. That's really the only thing you can say to bad. He was going to be really under side of him. I think they said his height, had he not did what they did, he's going to be like 14. And I think he ended up getting, what,
Starting point is 00:10:59 five, six, five, seven. Hey, Joe, he's short, Joe. Well, boy, well, hey, when he on that, when he on that pitch. Yeah. I mean, when you think about it, bro, it's like, it's like something just happens for Argentina,
Starting point is 00:11:15 like the last 10, 15 minutes of the game, The last three games. Hey, I think they're doing that shit on purpose, honestly. Would you think they consider that? I think Argentina, they purposely say, you know what? In the first half against England, they were out of their playing football. Yeah. They was out there.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It was about physical knocking people over. They were knocking, knock it, you know, junk up out each other. It's like it wasn't even a soccer game. Like, damn that, WWE. Second half come, I think Argentina purposely plays football, like, Not meaningful football. Not meaningful football. You know what?
Starting point is 00:11:51 And they sit back and say, Messy and go say, you know what? Okay, now it's in the 80th minute. We gave Egypt a 2, a 2-0 lead, two-neal lead. We gave England a 1-0 lead. And for some reason,
Starting point is 00:12:03 in all these games, all right, now, you know what? We're going to play ball. Now we're going to play ball. I think they do it on purpose. Man, I, hey, I don't know, bro, but I know. I mean, the game against Cape Verde,
Starting point is 00:12:18 Joe was unbelievable. Oh, man. The game against Egypt, the game against England. Yeah. The team that's looked the best against Spain happened to be Cape Verdi. Yeah. Yeah. The first game.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Now, obviously, teams get better and better as they play. I don't know if they played again. It would be a very similar outcome where it's a nil, nil, tie. But Argentina, man, it's just something. You know what? It's like when you have that great quarterback, Joe, you know no matter how bad the situation is,
Starting point is 00:12:49 you know if you can make one play, you can flip the momentum and you got that guy. And it's not a hope we know, we believe we can win. As long as that little tin is on the field, Argentina believe they're going to win, Ocho. Absolutely. He's magical, huh?
Starting point is 00:13:06 He's magical. He can flip the game upside down at any moment. And that's what he's always been great at. He's always been great at having those special moments. Now, the thing about it is those moments he has in important games, he has him at a much higher rate than everybody else. Yes. Much higher rate than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So, I mean, those moments are never too big for him, man, and it just is unbelievable to see. Unbelievable. That's what makes the great. That's what, because when you look at people look at Jordan and you look at Brady and you look at all the Reggie Jackson's, you look at the guys when the lights are at their brightest and the stage is at its biggest.
Starting point is 00:13:47 You look at the moments in which they did. It just seemed like Derek Jeter always found a way to get a big-ass hit for the Yankees when they were in the World Series. Yeah. Tom Brady found a way to get a first down, get a game winning, get a game-winning field goal, get a game-winning touchdown.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He always seemed to find a way. How? Bro, y'all been losing the whole damn game. Hey. I told y'all to stop playing with this man and put 50 on the board. But y'all kept bulljabby, here it is. Playing around.
Starting point is 00:14:17 You give him a chance to beat you. And England did the same thing. I don't understand. Why not keep attacking? Why not keep taking your chances offensively trying to get another goal? Make it that much. Put the pressure on Argentina.
Starting point is 00:14:32 They didn't put any pressure on Argentina. They folded the lawn chair and say, we're going to sit back and just, we're going to play defense and just hope they don't score. No. Hey, hey, hey. Well, that's a team. who just refuses to break
Starting point is 00:14:48 when the momentum shifts. You know what I mean? Argentina is, bro. It's like, because they get scored on early, but they never, they never, they never waver, bro. And they come through, I'm talking about it. Opportunity Times. You best damn believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:02 You know what everybody's up? I don't know how about you guys watch college football in the 80s and 90s, where them teams that ran the wishbone. And they would fall down by seven, 14 points. And guess what? they still running that bone. Hey, we're not paying,
Starting point is 00:15:17 we go do what we do. And we go get back in this game doing what we do. Yeah, yeah, he ain't fit to start tossing the ball. That ain't what we do. Right. Because if we end up doing that, we're gonna end up falling further behind. I love what a team, if you look and you said this,
Starting point is 00:15:31 Argentina, they fall behind early. They do what they do. Yeah. They don't change, they don't deviate for who they are. Oh, yeah. They's like, you know what? And when you've done it before, Anytime you've been in a situation before
Starting point is 00:15:46 and you overcome it, you feel you can overcome it again. Yeah. And you feel you could overcome it again. And you don't feel there, there's not a situation that you can be placed in that you don't feel comfortable that, man, I've been here, bro,
Starting point is 00:16:00 we were just down two goals to Egypt. Yeah, with 15 minutes to play. We were just, hey, we were back and forth with Cape Bert. Yeah. Man, this ain't nothing. And plus they're England. They don't even believe.
Starting point is 00:16:15 they can beat us. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that we saw it so much in the tournament, especially the last two games they had to play against Cape Birdie, against Egypt. And I remember when England scored, I tweeted, it's only a matter of time before Messi answers.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And I only said and tweeted that simply because I've seen what he's done in the previous two games. Yeah. And long behold, even if he wasn't the one that actually scored, him assisting, resulting in the scores, not once but twice. Hey, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:16:48 Ocho, he's not only leading the World Cup in goals now, I think, but I think he leading it in assists too. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:55 he doesn't want to go to boot because him and Mbapé was tied. But I, Mbapé had one assist and eight goals, and he had eight goals and two assists.
Starting point is 00:17:05 No, he was tied. They were tied, because Mbapé got another goal, so they were tied, Ocho. So now, messy goals ahead because he has two more assists.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yep. Because it goes, okay, we got the same number of goals, who has the most assist. So with that being said, he's about to win his second golden boot. That's man. Look, there are very few people on the short list when you talk about who's the greatest. Obviously, Pele, winning back-to-back World Cups, he's won three. No other players won three World Cups. And the number of goals that he scored over the courts, obviously they didn't have all the league that they have now with Messi and Ronaldo and
Starting point is 00:17:41 some in the Holland and all these other guys playing in Ocho. But he gets a goal. He wins another World Cup with the pool because you got more countries playing. You get guys that are more specialized now playing. It's kind of like basketball. It's kind of like football. I mean, that's not to take away anybody,
Starting point is 00:18:06 but if you win a championship and there's only six teams in the league at the time, it's a lot easier to win with 16 as opposed to the 30 team. Right. Absolutely. It's a lot. The NFL, we got 32 teams now.
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Starting point is 00:22:29 It's just a little bit. Yeah, I don't think it changes anything, Uncle Joe. Even if he doesn't win this game against Spain, his legacy is submitted. What he's done the game in general is cemented. If he happens to win it, let's say he doesn't win it. It doesn't change the fact,
Starting point is 00:22:45 that most 98% of the population still believe he's the goat. I think it's going to be a 99.99.9999. The only holdout is going to be you. Renardo is speed. It's going to be three holdouts. You know what else? Just a small tidbit on let's say they add more teams. Like next year they think about going to 60.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And 16 to 30. Go to 6 to add 16 more teams. So they'll go to 6th. 64, it's still a 48 for 2030, if I'm not mistaken. Go ahead, don't Joe. Even if they do do that, Uncle Joe, right? You still have to remember, just like the NFL, it's the same participants every time when it matters most.
Starting point is 00:23:27 When it gets to it, maybe you have one or two teams that may surprise you getting out the group stage or getting out the round of 32, getting into the round of 16, but the cream always ride it to the top when it comes to the most important games. And it's always the same teams, your French, your England, your Netherlands, You know, your Spain's, but Morocco is always going to be there.
Starting point is 00:23:49 France is going to be there. So even if they do go to 464 games, you know, ahead of the 48 or the 42 of the TV, you mean? It's going to be the same copers going to be there in the end. The question is, will you get an outlier like we got Indiana? Because like you said, normally before Ocho, we get Georgia, we get Alabama, Ohio State, we get the true blue bloods. Yes, so.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Or a situation in basketball. where it's normally all the blue bloods and every once in a while you get this outlier. Could it possibly be, could you get an outlier in soccer like that? It's hard, huh? It's hard. Even if you get that outlier, right?
Starting point is 00:24:29 And they happen to make it, let's say, they get passed around the 16. And then they have to play one of those juggernauts. Yeah. Like a Spain, like a Portugal. They have so much quality on their team and the individual skill and quality of each player,
Starting point is 00:24:45 each position is just that much better than that outlier team. And you won't understand until they actually get on the pitch and they share the pitch together. When the USA played Belgium, immediately as great as the USA look, the first three games, Joe, they got out that group stage, once they get out that round of 32, and they saw elite competition in a sense, what do we look like? But, hey, hey, hey, hey, like what? Star fry. Hey, hey, Ocho, I got a question.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Just me off. Yes, uh. With, with Messi being 39, bro, will he, will he play in another one? Nah, no, no. He, did he done?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah, he done. This is last World Cup. This was his last World Cup. This is Chrisano's last World Cup. Yeah, they did. They're done. He's like, you know what, Joe? But, hey, he stayed right there in Miami,
Starting point is 00:25:35 make by 50 mil, all the subs and all the attendance records that they break. They win championships. He's like, nah, I don't need to trade. Like, to do what? I need I can make 50 million and do this. I ain't got to travel no. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't know if he'll stay here or he'll go back to Argentina or go over where he, wherever he chooses to live at. But he's like, no, I'm good. He got two more years with us down here in Miami. And how they finished this past year? They won it. Yeah, they won it. They won.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah, they won the MLS Cup. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. They won it. And, you know, he got a sweet, he got a great deal. Man, I was watching, Ocho, you see them guys, man, they're getting, adding 10, 15, 20 million followers to the IG, the soccer players.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Oh, yeah. Holland added 23 million. Bezini added like 29 million. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cristiano Ronaldo, he had a little, he ain't have a little 10. Listen. So he's going to like 675 now.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Hey, hey, is this the biggest sport? Not even close. It's 10 times the people watching this as opposed to the Super Bowl. Yeah, way, way more. Damn. Yeah, it's crazy. Because if you think, yeah, people watch, people watch the Super Bowl. They like it.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They, you know, but think about it. Your country's in this. You're probably getting up, Joe, four, five in the morning. six in the morning to watch this. Yeah. This is my country. Unless you got somebody got that background in them, somebody got Argentinian background or some more background or something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And that's a relative. But the whole country, man, you'll see how Boyne Osir was acting? Yeah. They're like, bro. I don't even hold you. For the most part, I can't do it. I'm not getting up in those six in the morning,
Starting point is 00:27:39 five in the morning, watch nothing. When they have the NFL, you're overseas? Yeah. And them game come out of six in the morning. Yeah. You don't get up? I wish I might. Hey, that means you ain't no real fan.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I ain't no real fan, Joe. I ain't been to hold you. I haven't got getting up in that early to watch no football game. I catch him. When I get up, I walk tight as, it'll be half time. I catch the second half. Yeah. Nah, hell no.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And to get up, like I said, they get up at five in the morning. At least football, for the most part, you're probably gonna get some scoring. Like, it ain't really really often that the teams go to the half, zero zero. Yeah. You're gonna get something, Joe, Ocho, you Joe Ocho, you get a field goal,
Starting point is 00:28:22 you get a touchdown, it's seven, three, it's 10, seven, something like that. That's a great chance I'm going to, you're going to have it's zero zero in a soccer match. Yeah. Yeah, and you know. And you know, I've been up for a whole hour and a half and y'all ain't scored nothing.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, you know, you know when, let me see, Even when the World Cup ends this week, Joe, them boys got about two or three weeks off and it's preseason. In August, I'm sure they're probably having the tours, but they do the U.S. tour. Yeah. Teams come down and hit a play. Yeah. They're going to be right back in the States because soccer season starts, if I'm not mistaken, when football season starts or preseason start for football, they start back club play. That's about like, that's about like, maybe two or three weeks off.
Starting point is 00:29:09 That's about like mid-September or something like that early September. Yeah, yeah, regular season. Normally the team that win the World Cup, don't they come play, don't they come play like some of the MLF teams or something like, Ocho? Nah, uh-uh. Because once the World Cup is over, you go back to your club. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, because your season, the season getting ready to start. Okay. So Mbapé goes back to Real Madrid. Holland goes back to Man City. June Bellingham, back to Real Madrid. Vinny Jr., back to Real Madrid. And they already training. The players that didn't make their World Cup teams,
Starting point is 00:29:44 yeah. Yes. Back at the club training. Right. Damn. Man, for what they'd be making Joe Hill? I train year round two hell. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Hey, hey. They gwopped up now. They gwopped up now. And Renardo, I mean, Ronaldo making $300 million a year, Joe. Ooh. And a staff. And he got a full-time staff.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And he got a full-time security detail. And he got a dig up. gave him a private jet. Hey, he making different money, boy. Hey, that's how you do it. They offered the message a billion, a billion, they offered them over a billion. You're like, nah, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Hey, hey, do you know how good you gotta be Joe to turn down a bill? Well, you know, they offered him 1.1, 1. Yeah, who offered him that? Nick, Saudi. Yeah. And he said no. Yeah, his wife, I guarantee.
Starting point is 00:30:34 He would play with Ocho team down there in Miami. Yeah, I guarantee his wife. What they gave? What they gave me in Miami? They get, he get a part of the subscription. You get a part of his, he probably made by 50, 75. What?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Joe, you got to understand. Messy doesn't live like that. So therefore, he's already worth three, 400 million. Now I think he's, they say he's worth a billion. Worth a billion. He's worth a billion now.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So, I mean, there's really no need. Hold on. Hold on. Let him go get an extra billion for what? What do you mean? Yeah, what's better than one billion? Two billion. Yeah, messy lives a very simplistic lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Oh, can you turn it down 1.1. 1.1 billion, keep it 100. I ain't going to be able to do it, Joe. Hey, hey, where I sign that here? Because that won't be asking. Joe, you going away to Saudi Arabia, huh? Yeah, for 1.1 billion? Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:31:38 No, what about your kids? Your wife say, listen, you're coming. They're going to bring their ass with me. I got $1.1 billion. They're going to learn Mandarin and all that. What do you mean? But then you already had that kind of money. What more do you need?
Starting point is 00:31:51 More money? We're feeling experienced life. He might be the only person Joe that ever, because when have you ever heard a person? You heard a person say, I got, man, I got too many shoes. Wiff and say, I got too many persons. Right. I got too many clothes.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I got too many cars. They got too many homes. Last person you heard said, man, Ocho, I got too much money. Oh, man. When you ever heard somebody say that? You ain't never heard anybody say that. Elon Musk was worth a trillion. Now, he's worth about $800 billion now.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He ain't, ain't nobody ever been worth that kind of money. And he's still trying to get more money. So I would take my head out to him. Look, he's a family man. And it was very important to him. Like you said, Ocho, his wife probably said, and she probably say, look, look, we've sacrificed enough.
Starting point is 00:32:36 No, yes. Because at some point in time, it comes a point where how much more am I going to have to sacrifice? We sacrifice so we could get to the point where we are now. Right. We don't really need to sacrifice anymore because what can we do with another billion that we cannot do with the billion that we've already accumulated? And so I think, Joe, that's how they're looking at it.
Starting point is 00:32:57 They ain't how me and you looking at it. Because, hey, I know my sister and my brother going to put my put their foot by ass if I turned out to be a year. They're going to say, boy, what's wrong with you? Exactly. You know, my mama said, well, hey, you can put a slot machine in my house. Mama, it's still your money. Even if the slop machine in your house is your money that you put in.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You win in your money. Tell me about she, my mama told me, talking about she wanted a slot machine in the house. I said, Mama, you do realize that would be your money, right? Yeah. It's not like somebody going to come in there and put money in there for you to win. That's your money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:36 But no, it's a special type of person to get to that point where you can say no to that kind of zero. Do you know, I mean, that's a lot of zeros, man. Yeah. I mean, 300 million a year. And I mean, just when you get a chance, Joe, Google, uh, uh, uh, Ronaldo's contract. 20, I mean, a full time style, full time security detail big, he'd be flying on that, that big jumbo. Yeah. That one that president Trump just got.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah. Go for Air Force one. he'd be flying on that. You're talking about that one. You can do car wheels down the aisle? Yeah, that one. Okay, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:12 That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. As a matter of fact, we just saw one. Do you remember that big old jumbo jet? We saw parked out there. We saw some Saudi prince, or I'll forget where he was from. That jet is so, so ginormous.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah. That thing ain't probably cost. I know they charge you $100,000 an hour for that one. Hey, they got it. They have an unlimited amount of money that is constantly rotating. But now we have Spain, excuse me, and Argentina
Starting point is 00:34:48 for the World Cup. Who you got? Who you got? I already told you, man, who I wanted to win. Who? He wanted friends. I go to Spain. Oh. I go to Spain.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Wait. He won't want Argentina. You betting against Messi? I'm betting against the people of Argentina. I like Messi. It's just, it's hard for me to get over the history. Okay, okay. What about you, Joe?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Man, I like how Spain play, Ocho, considering the fact, you know, they got good midfielders and attackers. You know what I'm saying? It's like, and if you can control that midfield game, bro, you can really control the game. of soccer, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And they do a great job at there. But boy. No, you're right, Joe. You're right. Hey, hey, it's something about messy, dog. Like, he got the magic, he got it. You know, when you see a place, like, man, he got it. I don't know what the hell it is, but he got it.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You know what I mean? Yeah. He got it, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. I'm nervous to be better against him. I ain't gonna lie. I don't know who I don't know who I'm going for yet. Give me, give me about a day and so.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Somebody, hold on, if I'm not mistaken, somebody built against France, somebody bet a million dollars that Spain was going to beat France, and they won 2.5 million. Damn. Drake bet France. This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to start looking to see who Drake Brent would, and I'm a bad.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Go against him. Yeah. Hey, hey, but hold up, though. I ain't going to lie now. It was moments throughout this World Cup. Boy, France looked unbeatable. They did. Oh, it's, hey, hey, since the World Cup started, Joe.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Ocho. I thought, hey, I ain't going to lie. Hey, I ain't think it was going to be a team that was going to run through them boy like that, man. Hey, I'm at fault, too. I'm at fault because USA, France, the way they both look, I wasn't thinking France was going to lose at all, Joe.
Starting point is 00:36:52 They was called since the start of the tournament. USA had me fool. They had me fool. The first three games, I'm like, oh, we're going to run circles around Belgium. Man, they embarrass me. Make me think I don't know what I'm talking about. Well, we already know y'all for Argentina
Starting point is 00:37:06 because both of y'all got blue and didn't tell me. But anyway, golden boot race, Lionel Messi has eight goals, four assists. Kiliin Inbape, eight goals, three assists. Erland Harlan, he has seven goals. Everybody is done except Messi. Nobody can catch him. So you know what that means? You know what it mean?
Starting point is 00:37:26 What would it mean? He's going to have another trophy on his mantle. Yeah, hey, I got messy, bro. I didn't mind. Mikaa Olerzobel, in Spain's leading goal score with five. So in order to catch, he would need to score four goals.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It's possible, Ocho, is four goals in the World Cup possible? No. No. In order to score four goals as an individual, maybe, listen, maybe a hat trick,
Starting point is 00:37:54 yes, but four. But maybe in the early stages, not in the championship game. Absolutely. They would have to lay down on the floor for you to get four. That's like a wide receiver having 250, 300 receiving yards. Hold on in the first quarter. We've seen Brady had 500-yard passing game,
Starting point is 00:38:16 had a 500-yard passing game in the Super Bowl, and they lost, remember to the Eagles, he had 500. Yeah. Jerry had over 200 receiving in the Super Bowl. They won 1988 against the Bengals in Miami, Joe, Ocho, your team. You didn't have to bring that up, though. Just saying, Ocham, just. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Well, you had a chance to win the game. The ball hit Lewis Billups in the hands, and he dropped it. Yeah. And you already know, and Joe, you've seen this. When you have an opportunity, like, to get a rebound or to get a loose ball and you don't get it, what happens? You drop it until you have an opportunity to jump on a fumble. You have an opportunity to get an interception.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You get an opportunity to make a play and you don't happen. What happened in football, Ocho? As it is, a rap, right? They come right back, they come back and It bites in that. You know what. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So, number one, Argentina. I mean, hey, it's only fitting. The number one seed, Argentina. Number two seed, Spain will meet in the World Cup. It's also the first World Cup final between the reigning champ, your Euro and South America, Copa, America. Spain's favorite. You know that, Ojo, you know that.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Oh, that's it right there. See? That would he be flying on Joe and Ocho? Oh, that's the one, that's the one we took. Hold on, is that a double joint? Yeah. That, they took the double out in just, it's just one. Damn.
Starting point is 00:39:43 We, uh, we at the airport, what you call it? Hey, hey, hey, um, y'all, y'all been on that? That's a, oh, that, oh, that, oh, that, hell now, ain't been on that. Oh, okay. Boy, dad, dad, you so far up under the jail? out of the jail. Hey, you know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:40:07 You know what you say we're going to be coming in some brand. So we're coming to the brand. We got rid that right now, Joe, Cho. I'm telling you right now ahead of time. Now, straight to Cambo Verdy. Hey, I tell you what. We go to the ball D. Hey, all I want to pile of do is turn around.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Where too, Mr. Sharp? Hey, yeah. Hey, I tell you what we have way there. Hey, hey, I tell y'all what, my grandma always told me speaking into existence now. Yeah. Speaking into existence. Hey, Joe, it's one thing to speak it into existence, right? But it's one thing to actually know what's coming.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And, you know, it's power in the tongue. You hear me? Yeah. Yeah. It's power in the tongue. And I can feel it. Oh, Joe could attested his power in the tongue. All right, now, here we go.
Starting point is 00:40:55 We just test it. See what I mean? See? You see? You see why I got to go. You say they power in the tongue. Yeah, I'm talking about speaking things into existence as power in the tongue.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Context matters. Oh, they say they'd be speaking in tongues. Oh, oh, oh, I so, Joe. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, Joe, you know what they call them at the Creel? What?
Starting point is 00:41:23 They call it sloppy Joe. They call it floppy Joe. Hey, you got a deal. Hey, you know what, I'm kind of mad, right? I'm kind of mad. What's you mad for? I'm kind of mad. I'm out here in New York, right?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. I got some new toys that came in the mail from Amazon. I wanted to be able to show Joe, but I'm not. And you were at home to you mean? What'd you think, man? Hey, hey, hey, I don't have, that ain't my thing, partner. Hey, Joe, hey, you think you're slick. I know you're taking notes every time.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You go, hey, hey, he go back and watch the show. You do? Yeah, he go back and watch. Oh, he do. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no, nah, nah, nah. I see what's going on. I see what's going on.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah. All the mistake. All the mistake, Joe. All the mistake. Hey, man, I don't forget what we were talking about. Unc took the thing off the train. No, no, no. No, Acho, you know what they say?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Slip of the tongue, ain't nobody fault. Slip of the tongue, you're right around the corner of what drop in. You might as well, Joe. I mean, you in Miami, Ocho and our neighbors. You're not going to Ocho, though. Man, I'm going over here and see if an uncone home. What you're gonna do, Joe, I already know. Listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I know how he came over with nightcap because the freaks come out at night. The freak come out. Freak come out at night. Joe, I think you got me, Joe. No, come on. They say, Ocho, they say, Ocho 1, A, Joe 1B. They say I'm 1C.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Man, we can't, we can't keep going through there because chat already, they tell y'all, every damn show who won, two, and three. And y'all refuse to believe it. Joe, the chat continuously says you're number one. I'm not sure why you keep hiding. Oh, my God. Why do you keep behind it?
Starting point is 00:43:06 It's okay. We're going to get that. We're going to rent that. I give us three years. Three? Three years. Ocho, trying to accelerate that. To go, Ocho, to go where we going,
Starting point is 00:43:17 that thing probably 100,000 an hour, Joe. I mean, Ocho, so we got to have some disposable income that we could just like, we got to have some effort money. And yeah, the folks going to pay us to come over there. Hey, um, I guarantee you. I'm telling you now, it's not for to take no three years. Not even close. Hey, I'm with Ocho on that one, huh?
Starting point is 00:43:35 Definitely need for the take. Do you understand the product that I got to watch it right now? Huh? Hey, Joe, he's underestimating the product. He don't understand. The product, the product is top notch. It ain't even close. So three years?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Hell, yeah. Please, no. I'm talking about we both of the pods. We're in the top 20 this week on YouTube, both of them. Come on now. 16 and 17. Come on, I'm talking about, we're cooking with hot grease. What?
Starting point is 00:43:59 Yeah, I mean, we've been, I mean, it's routine. Now I get mad if we outside the top 20. I already know we're going to be on the charts. I'm just like, hold on, damn. Expectations, man. Hey, I feel like, hey, when we win in the top 20, top 15?
Starting point is 00:44:17 And I feel like Michael Jackson and the gram in 98 grader when they didn't give him no award. He nominated and ain't win none. And they went up on stage and tore it up. Oh, man. But, hey, we back. They don't. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It's going to be lit when football crank up. I already know it. Cowboys, boy, we're going to, yeah. All is for nothing. Oh, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't start poor mouth than us. Don't start doing that. Y'all have been to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Don't start that. All right, guys, Ocho, this is you. This is, this is you. Drafted 10th overall, Portland, and the 2013, C.J. McCollum says his debut season salary was about $2.3 million. Yes, I'm. Got cut by federal taxes. which was 37%.
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Starting point is 00:49:05 Jock taxes, union dues and other expenses common for young athletes. He told Forbes, let's say I'm making two million. After taxes, let's call it $9.50, 970. Agents fees, 15% marking, those checks get chopped out. After living off energy drink deal, I had about a $12,000 deal just to come just to get some posts off and I lived off that.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I had a fear and a paranoia that I was was going to go broke. I always fear like everyone goes broke. So I'm not going to spend any money. I bought a $6,000 chain, a big cross, but that was really it. I was afraid the trip here. I used points to come to New York. The points were a trip to stay and gave me $400 in food and beverage. Coos chimed there. Not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I guess Austin here an athlete breakdown how their millions aren't really millions after taxes the fees. Forty million after taxes is still 40 million. The real issue is into the system. It's the lifestyle creep. Nobody told you to live like a king by five cars or move with a 10-person entourage. Modest is allowed. Cous ain't a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:10 No, he didn't. He didn't. A lot of people, Uncle Joe, when you make it, a lot of people get caught up in a lifestyle, having to look a certain way, having to drive a certain car. Now, when it comes to driving a certain car, they start buying multiple of said cars.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Now, it's okay to enjoy the fruits of your labor. I understand that. You work your butt off to get to this point in life. But some people don't know when to scale back and they get lost in the sauces, I call it. Now I got to keep up with the Joneses. Now I have to dress a certain way. Now I have to drive a certain car.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I have to buy multiple chains when something new comes out. I got to keep up with it. It just is ridiculous to me at the point. I was extremely smart. Uncle Joe, you know how I am in moderation. I do things in moderation. Now when I was playing, I lived extremely below my means, extremely well below it. And now I'm able to enjoy, you know, some of the fruits of my labor.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Now I'm starting to have a little fun. Yeah. Doing things in moderation, you know, but doing some things that when I was playing, I definitely wouldn't do. I definitely wouldn't do it. Now I'm enjoying myself a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah. I lived a little now because, but after a while, you know, you know, I like T-shirts
Starting point is 00:51:28 and everybody be, I know y'all be. asking like, man, where do you get where you get those t-shirts from? Shelly's like, I'm not buying you no more t-shirts. This is getting out of hand. I'm like, Shelly, they're T-shirts. You'll make it seem like I'm watching buying $100,000 watches.
Starting point is 00:51:41 They're $20 T-shirts. Yeah. So, I get it, and I do look. That's one of the reason I left the state of California. 13.3% 13.5% state tax. I'm already, I'm at 37%
Starting point is 00:51:57 federal tax. So, before, anything before FICA, before Medicaid, before I do anything, I'm only getting 49 and a half percent of my money. Uncle Sam got it, gone. Agent fees. I get it. So anytime I get some, let's just say you make, I get 100,000, I go ahead and slide, you know, 45, 48.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I said that to the side. Yeah. I only, that means I only got 52, 55 to deal with. Yeah. You don't got a hundred now. See, people make a number and think they got that number. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:36 No, no, no, no, no, no you don't got that number. Anything you do, you automatically say, you automatically, this is what my guy told me, God, oh, Joe, Joe. He said, you're in partnership with Uncle Sam. He said, when your money grows, so does he is. Yeah. Mm. If you understand that and live with your means.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Yeah. See, you go, if you go by Mama Rose Royce, who's going to have. have to pay see I got to get mama something that I can get off of and she can take care of herself yeah if she need to go buy a tire she can do that right if I buy her our 500,000 dollar car Joe who will have to pay to keep that upkeep me right about mom a three million dollar house who's gonna have to pay to keep that upkeep me mama can't clean a three million dollar house my sister can't clean the three million
Starting point is 00:53:24 dollar house yeah my sister can't cut the lawn at a three million dollar home so you got to be smart because you got to realize anything that you do for your family is greater than anything that's ever been done for them. And they know you're doing it out of love. Forget the fact that it's more than they ever thought is out of love. And if that's not enough, oh, I don't know what to tell you. And that's I could do. Hey, Uncle Joe, you know family don't know when to stop now, right?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah. Yes, I do know. Yes, yes. Family don't know when to stop asking. Now that's hard, especially, you know, for these young players, you're coming into money young, and you think about you, you've got all these people coming after you. Yeah. And asking you for this, man, it's difficult.
Starting point is 00:54:08 It's difficult. I don't think people understand. I'm personally, I never tweeted. I never say anything when I see these clips about a player saying, you know, a certain amount of money is not enough. And I know what's eating them up. Right. The lifestyle and trying to maintain an image. Because once you stop playing, Joe, it's impossible.
Starting point is 00:54:27 It's impossible. You still, you still, Ocho. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because the first day, what is it? Man, Ocho must be doing bad.
Starting point is 00:54:35 He ain't got that big chain. I don't see that big chain. Hey, a, Ocho used to be in the club popping bottles, man. I ain't seen Ocho in the club in a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Did you start, you start hearing that.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Now of a sudden you got to go get something outside of your means. See? Oh, hell now. Yeah. You've got to put limits on what you give because takers are never, put limits on what they take. Yeah. You have to understand and you buy something. You buying it. It's like, okay, I give, let's just say for the sake of Joe and I, we homeboys.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah. Joe ain't make it. I made it. Me and Joe being cool, I know if Joe had made it, he do me the same way. Yeah. I'm going to shoot Joe some money and I ain't going to never ask about he, he never going to mention I'm never going to put him in a situation where he feel that he got to pay me back. Right. But I already know, I ain't asking for that money. back. I only give money that I know I ain't going to have my home boy. They never got to worry about paying me back. That's what anybody. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's how I do it. But you buy a car. If you got to buy a car, Ocho, and I got to pay the insurance on it, and I got to pay the maintenance on it. And I got to buy the upkeep. I got to pay the upkeep on it. Well, damn. I thought this was I thought this was like a robbery,
Starting point is 00:55:51 in and out. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm being real. Yes, sir. And people are like, oh, that's your family. I get it. You go broke with effing with your family. And then what? Let me tell you what happens when somebody goes broke
Starting point is 00:56:03 when they spend all that money. The first thing they're gonna say, we know what they're gonna say, Joe and no, Joe? What's that? Man, I don't know how he lost all that money, effing with y'all. Yeah. That's how I lost it.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Fing with y'all. Yeah. Because every time I couldn't say no because I felt bad. Mm-hmm. Every time you said, let me get 50,000, let me get 25, you had this great idea, I didn't say no.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Right, right. Everybody. When it's all gone, man, I don't know how he lost all that money. Oh, you don't, huh? You have no idea. Hey, and that's the hard part, okay, Ocho, because these guys coming in so young now, bro, 18, 19 years old. Yeah, you're running out of this money.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Hell, you become a multimillioner overnight, bro. So you got to, you got to hope you have somebody in your corner who can help you because y'all are probably just coming into some money, you and your parents, and for the ones who already know what it's like, and obviously, hopefully you got some good help. But when you don't, bro, and everybody is new to everybody, oh, mistakes are going to be made, partner.
Starting point is 00:57:08 You're going to make some mistakes. And then you got to watch people that you got counting on making your money because they're trying to get some off the top. Hello. Hello. And you just, excuse me, Chad, apologize. It gets to the point, Joe, Ocho, And you guys, you know this, because we're professional athletes,
Starting point is 00:57:31 we've been successful. How many cars do I need? Right. How many chrome, how many chrome hard pair of jeans? I just saw a guy, I just, I was going through my DMs. And I looked at it and the guy has sent me, say he had a chrome heart, a Drake chrome heart hoodie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 What am I doing that? The only time I really wear hoodies, I go to the gym. Yeah. But I wish I might spend $40, $50,000 for a damn hoodie. Oh, yeah, yeah. What? Oh, yeah. It's pricey out here.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Now they, it is. And listen, and those that are in the fashion, those that are, like, really in the fashion, oh, man, they, they eat you up. They eat you up. Hey. They swear down when it comes to fashion. And then when you dissecting to understand how stuff is made, what stuff really costs before they mark it up?
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yes. Man, man, please. I ain't paying y'all no mind. And I know how it really gets done. I know what the cost to actually make. You're paying for the name anyway. That's it. Yeah, that's absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:39 They had me like that, though, Cho. I buy stuff, man, I bought like the, you remember the letter me jacket, Joe, the blue of the time, let him be jacket. Man, I bet I have about four of the thing. Yes, sir. Man, hey, they don't saw this one.
Starting point is 00:58:52 This one, too designed. Y'all saw them leave out of LV pants I got. Y'all going to see them. McGinn. Y'all, y'all, hey, I ain't got Beyonce and all them money that could wear an outfit one time
Starting point is 00:59:08 and let it go to the wayside. That ain't me. But did I say, you know what? Let me give me some jeans. Shelly, give me like three pair of these and just different colors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Light blue, acid wash. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Let me get that. Let me get something. I can give me some with $150, $200, $200, dollar jean man jean i remember jean with $30 yeah yeah i remember jean with $30 a pair you ain't that you can't even fire wrangles for $30 a pair man you can't get $30 a pair no damn thrift though no it's high
Starting point is 00:59:45 bruh i mean jean i'm like she'll be telling me tell a hey uh i found some great jeep i said how much are they 250 i say 250 three hundred dollars for some jean damn yeah do they got $200 in the back pocket. You know, you know what? The funny thing about it, and when it comes to fashion, it's not about price, not about price point. It's what you wear and how you put it together.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Hello. It's not what you wear, it's how you wear. There you go. You know, and the clothes never make you. You make the clothes. Right. A lot of people confuse the two and feeling like, okay, I got a designer, I'm fashionable.
Starting point is 01:00:24 No, fashionable is being able to get a $20 thrift shirt and some $30 pair of jeans and being able to put it together and making it look like you paid a lot for it. Basically, when you put things together. And another thing that got a lot of us, a lot of those players that come into money going broke is the women. The women have expectations because you live a certain lifestyle
Starting point is 01:00:52 and the value in which they bring to you is nothing but how they look. That's the value. So in order to get access, what you gotta do to get access, Uncle Joe? You got to pay. You got to pay to play. And to keep up with that access,
Starting point is 01:01:08 you have to keep on paying to play to make sure she don't go deal with nobody else because you want that to feel like that's yours. Oh, if that's the case, then, you, hey, it's best you be by your damn self. Big Bang will always, because there's always somebody. Unless you, Michael. Say it again.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Say it again, Big what? Big Bang, going to take Little Bank. There's always going to be somebody to make more to you. Every time, which is why all the ones that got the most money are all playing around with the same circle. No, I ain't gonna preach. Yeah, no, no, no, hey.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Because we are, because we all, cause they already know. We, we got, guess what? The hardest thing about LA is because you don't know who dealing with who. She might be dealing with an athlete, an entertainer, a movie director, a music producer, a rapper. You don't know what she got going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:52 All you know, if you see it in a D-663 with a Birkin, Hello. In four different colors. Hello. And she dressed to the nine every time you see her. How you dress like this at nine o'clock in the morning, 11 o'clock in the morning? What kind of job you got?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Somebody dropped their bag off in the man. Yes, sir. It's the only way to get them. It's the only way to get their attention. Damn. So you mean to tell me that's what Dayton is now in 26? Oh, then Joe the price sky high. Joe, what you mean?
Starting point is 01:02:24 It's always been like that. Just a date, Ocho, just for us to hang out, I got the job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, Joe. I remember the time I came up in the air and see, I hate going, I know y'all get tired of me saying, but I came up in there and Joe, you get a hair done and some nails, boy, you're in there like swimwear. Oh, you're good, Joe. You're good, huh?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Damn. Cadet corner. Oh, hey, hey. Hold on, Uncle Joe, I want to take you on a date. When you're available? Well, I mean, I got to get my hair done and, you know, I got to get my nails and feet done. I need something to wear. Something new way and I need some shoe huh.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Excuse me. Hey, you know what? Hey, don't worry about a little mama. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, I've been out of the day game for a while, but the price of who had to want up like that? Sky high is up there. Hey, look what goody bob say look up and seen the sun.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Sky. Sky. I've been in it for the past few days. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But I think the thing. is that once guys realize,
Starting point is 01:03:28 bro, at what point is enough enough? Okay, you want to get you, okay, if you want to get too expensive car, if you want to say, oh, you know, like when I was in Denver, you got to have an issue, if you're, like, if you're in Texas, you probably can get away with one car. But if you're in Cincinnati
Starting point is 01:03:46 or you in Denver, you're in place where it gets cold and it snows, you're probably going to get an SUV, and you probably don't want your only vehicle to be an SUV. Right. So you're going to probably want a sedan. Be a BMW, Rolls, something like that. So if you want to get two cars, knock yourself out.
Starting point is 01:04:04 You know you're going to get mom something. If you're going to get dad something, if you got a brother and sister, because most of us, we close with our brother and sister. Yes. We really are. You hear the way my brother talked, like I told him he was going to be good.
Starting point is 01:04:18 He was going to have exactly what I had. Yeah. So we're going to take care of everybody taking care of. But at some point in time, bro, you got to stay I got to put my feet down and say no hello this 5,000 here this 10,000 there that 20 thousand here oh that add up man and what you doing with that money right I would I would love I would love to ask athletes right and I know a lot of them will see this you know and I mean this a no not this is not a disrespectful thing this I mean this is no disrespectful way you
Starting point is 01:04:51 know to my sisters or whoever they're dating right now but I want you to ask yourself this question, right? If you were to take sex out of the equation, take sex out of the equation, right, Uncle Joe, what value, based on what you have going on? What value does that person bring to you? What value outside of being one that takes money from you? Because that's, at the end of the day, that's all it is. It's just money continuously going out. Right. For upkeep, obviously for lifestyle. What value? What? Just think about it. It wouldn't be a lot of value in an Ocho for a lot of cash, bro. I mean, yes, but it takes for you to hear that question and then to sit back and think about it,
Starting point is 01:05:37 okay, what does this individual do for me? Outside of looking good, outside of me helping her maintain a lifestyle, what value does she bring to me? Because if you got $100 and she's taking $50 to $100, at some point that to me, that is nothing but a liability. Because you make so much, you always think, all right, it's cool, I'm going to make it in. The only that's in the street, oh, the next plate is always the next plate. Yeah. Yeah. To re-up.
Starting point is 01:06:02 What happens when that next thing? You don't know, but I don't always work like that. Everybody, everybody loved the story that I can't. How many stories have you heard? I came to L.A. with nothing in my pocket. Yeah. I came to the United States with $40 in my pocket. And I turned, but there's a lot of people that came with more than that in the
Starting point is 01:06:21 down pocket and ain't got nothing. Hello. We don't hear those stories. And it's Every Look Everybody is not And when you look at it
Starting point is 01:06:36 You see the income It's like I think the average income It's probably $55,000 $60,000. Not the way they're acting on Instagram It ain't. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Everybody rich on Instagram. Hey, hey, hey, Instagram is make believe though. Okay, Ocho. I mean, as much as it is, you know, real people doing real things. All of it. All of it.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Twitter is just a bigger cesspool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just creates an illusion that you think they all got it figured the hell out when they don't. Yes. Yeah. And everybody's selling the program of how to get, I promise you. Net. Does KFC give you the secret sauce?
Starting point is 01:07:17 No. Does K ain't give you the secret sauce? No. Chick-fil-A. So now you're telling me, you created this. You got the secret sauce and you're going to sell it. You won't give it away. No.
Starting point is 01:07:32 No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Nah, I'm good. You know what? I don't, and, you know, I don't even fault my sisters at here.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I don't call it. Because if you look like that and you're bad, and you can get what you want to, you know, play, play, sister, play your game. Do your game. Hey, it's dudes out here going to fall for it every time.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Every time. You're right. Every time. You're right. You ain't wrong. Hey, younger, Joe. What's that? I'm thinking about my time, you know, during my single days and, you know, you think I'm
Starting point is 01:08:07 going to chase you and you, you're added expense? Yeah. Man, girl, man, go on about your business, man. How is it so easy for me to disconnect when, when me and someone break up? Oh, man, you fumble. Fumble what? Nigginsets, when do you, how are you going to fumble a bill? What is you talking about?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Nah, I ain't fumbled. You punted. I punt it. How do you know what I said? As a matter of fact, I punt it on first. down too. But see, I was just the opposite, though, Joe. The hard, the faster they, the faster they ran, the fast, the faster they ran, I had to get my Usain boat track shoes. I got to try to catch him. What? I had to try to catch him, Joe.
Starting point is 01:08:42 You was trying to catch him. I tried to catch him, Joe. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So that was just a lesson learned. You had to, no. And then, you know, then all of a sudden, I took off running the other way. Yeah. Look at the numbers, Joe. Joe, well, Joe, you, you know, you marry, you know, I've been, and I'm not talking, I'm talking about when I was, when I was playing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah. It's still the same out there. You don't, you don't have to be out there to know because the difference is between then and now. There are more guys that have more money to play like you, we were playing back then. We had a little bit of money. Yeah. They got 40, 50. We tried to do that with a meal or two.
Starting point is 01:09:21 They're doing that with 40, 50, 60. Hey. With another 10, 20, 30, off the field. Yeah. What nobody making a hundred. to make a hundred Michael Jordan wouldn't even doing a hundred million dollars a year. They got guys, they got some of these guys doing a hundred million a year when you combine their salaries
Starting point is 01:09:34 in off field and, in, endorsements. Yeah. They got guys doing a hundred mill. Boy, do you know what you can do with a hundred meal? Yes. Ain't a whole lot,
Starting point is 01:09:43 ain't a whole lot of women going to tell you no. Because they know what you got. Hey. And they don't, they don't say no. Depending on what you make it. And the one making that kind of money, They all in they all dealing with the same group of people.
Starting point is 01:10:02 The same. Because they look us. We like, we like us. Listen, I guarantee you if you look at all the old women to old show dating, look at all the women that Joe dated, look at the women that I've dated. You're like, hold on. Wait a damn minute. It's gonna be some.
Starting point is 01:10:18 You never been in the same area, the same damn time. And how y'all get the women that damn look at look the same? Built the same. Hey, you got to realize where do you go? There's a reason why polar bear eat seals. Because that's what's there. Hello. There's a reason why athletes date the same type, the same woman.
Starting point is 01:10:42 That's what's there. You think some arbitrarily random chick can go and get in one of the hot spots in Vegas, Miami, L.A.? who they let to the clubs? Yeah. They got to stand there and they look at it. Are they looking like? Mm-mm. Come here.
Starting point is 01:11:03 How many is it? Four of us. Come on. Come on. Come on. They're on. You already know how I got. Y'all don't see it.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Hey. Because they know the good-looking chicks going to get the guys with the money to spend money. Because what are the guys that got money going to try to do for the good-looking tricks? Impress them.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah. And how do I impress them, Boucho? I get me a section. And I get, hey, let me get that. Ace and Spades. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Hey, let me get some Tidos. Let me get a, uh, uh, uh, uh, 1942. Yeah. Uh, let me get some of that a Cozumigo, the reposado. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They spend that money, right? To get access. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:49 They had a fun, right, Joe? Yeah. And they got the kind of money, like a revolving door during that time. There's a, there's a window. There's a window of opportunity. where you're making this kind of money and you have as much fun as you can. And when you get bored with that one, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Keep the rotation going. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Keep the rotation going. Hey, uh, and when they bring my bottles out, I want them sparkles to be jumping, okay? I want to look like fireworks over here. And I want a sign, I want a sign to come with it too. Hey, I want to come through just like this. Oh, Joe, oh, Joe, oh, Joe.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Come through with it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, as soon as you get up back over here to the table, I'm talking to the waitress. I want you to pull everybody up a shot. Make sure everybody over here got a shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Yeah, yeah, we're going to shoot one real quick. Yeah. As a matter of fact, there'll come up there. They'll look pretty good. That ain't in the section? Yeah. Send them one to.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to send them a bottle on? Huh? You're going to send him a bottle or bring them in the section? Bring them in there. Oh, hold on. Okay. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I had some hounds with me, boy. They're going into other section, getting girls out of other section. Yeah. See, that would cause a fight. Yeah. That boy, I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, that's my house with me, boy.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Well, hold on, hold on. Hey, I'm trying to be as inconspicuous as possible. But I already know how that's gonna be because dude, they're gonna let you try to show him up now. Oh, you think, oh, you think her, you that right? No, it ain't even that type of part. Right, right, right. I ain't choose her, she chose me.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Right, right, right. Hey, do me a favor, right? What's that? Because y'all know, I never, I don't club often. I have a club because I don't drink alcohol. So I don't know what it's like, to go into a section and buy bottles. So when we make that trip to Houston, right?
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah. Show me what it's like to be in the club. No, I ain't, I don't drink in the club. The only time I drink, Ocho, is that if I'm right here on club, Shays Show, where I got a La Porte event. I don't go to no club and drink, because more times than not, I drive. And I'm not going, I'm not going, you know.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Hey, hey, hey, when we go out then I'm going to be the only one sipping on something, y'all ain't going to sip that. No, no, no, no. You know what I'm going to go to the club, will keep tipping and sipping, you know what I'm saying? Five for the bottom and five for the bottom at top. Five for the top, five for the bottom is all to get those fans to fall. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Keep on tip of the sipping. Okay. One more time, DJ, anytime we'll do, you on you. Good morning. Give it up on page one for the beautiful chocolate. Oh, you don't need no appointment. Hey, diamond's on stage two. Come on down, girls.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Hey, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Hey, matter of fact, this is what I'm gonna do. Uh, eh, uh, so what? I'm gonna have a call area 29. right yeah yeah five six bottles or that leporte i'm i already have it on deck yeah then you're gonna buy your own stuff and they're gonna come out with the laportee with the sparklers on there come up with sparklers and we're gonna have a sign too hey hey hey and i'm have all the chick come out so i can see what it feels like man like hey up and pop bottles
Starting point is 01:14:46 hey oh cho i ain't gonna tell no lie to you because it's sound fly to you yes that laporteur they're going to get the party started boy yeah Yeah, boy. Hey, hey, I'm ready. Like Jennifer Lewis say, hide your money. They broke people around. Yeah. I'm ready. You know they watch it now.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Who that? Yeah. Who watching? I don't go after. But you thought I go in there, you know, you don't get a couple of them ones. You know, who have them once. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, let me know, because this is new to me, when we go to area 29, Go to area 29. We take the trip using. Please tell me so I don't embarrass us. I don't want to embarrass us. How much, how much do we need to get?
Starting point is 01:15:31 Bare minimum, you're going to need $2,500 in ones. Okay, $2,500. At least. I said at least, Joe, right? Don't see, they're going to be a good night for a strip. We all of us got put in $25. Hey, Joe, I might come with a little extra. You don't look extra.
Starting point is 01:15:49 You don't do a little extra. Hey, Uncle, Joe, we can't embarrass ourselves. Let's go with 5,000 at least. 5,000. Say no more. I'm saying, so we just throw the whole five just. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right away, Joe, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:03 You know what I'm saying? You're going to take our time throughout the night, but I'm just saying. Yes, yes, Joe. Hey, listen, listen, $200, $200, because $200, it looked real good in that, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We throw it in 20 minute intervals. Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, you know what I don't like, I don't like when they bring out our money.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And then it's like a herd of stripper just come, like just sitting there staring at it or something. No, no, no, no, no. I already got the ones I picked that. I, hey, magic. Hey, you know what I like. Oh, what you? Thank you though.
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