Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Baker sues family, Stroud sophomore slump, Rodgers future
Episode Date: November 27, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 12 of the NFL season including Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB Baker Mayfield suing his father and brother’s investment firm, ...claiming they stole $12 million, Houston Texans QB C.J. Stroud suffering a sophomore slump, New York Jets’ Aaron Rodgers resisted injury testing to avoid being benched and much more!03:13 - Malik Nabers has a postgame rant regarding coaching staff06:18 - Baker Mayfield is suing family investment firm09:34 - If you play sports you gotta have amnesia; On Xavier Leggette’s play11:24 - Commanders vs. Cowboys19:45 - What’s up with CJ Stroud?30:50 - Dolphins vs. Patriots37:59 - A Look at the Kansas City Chiefs40:25 - Aaron Rodgers could leave the Jets soon(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Brian Dayball said he spoke to Malik Mavis after the red.
He's a very competitive individual.
Again, you want to get the ball in his hands,
and you've got to do a better job of getting the ball in his hands early.
He's a smart young guy that's very competitive.
And again, when you lose like that, it's frustrating.
But we've had good communication, as we always have.
The Giants play on Thanksgiving against the Cowboys.
Don't talk me to death.
Don't talk my head off.
I'm about action, boss.
I'm about action.
We in week 11.
We in week 12.
Whatever week it is.
I'm about action.
And we having a conversation about getting him the ball.
Show me.
Show me, because you can tell me anything.
And come game day, I get lost in the sauce again.
Matter of fact, the first 15 plays of the game are scripted.
Show me how much you love me.
I'll show how much you really mean what you said to me about my race.
You know?
Don't let me waste away.
I know we losing.
I know we having a bad season.
Things aren't going the way we like.
We losing just those balls.
Let's give the Giants fans something they want.
Let's give them a little entertainment.
Huh? Put the ball in my hands, let's give the Giants fans something they want. Let's give them a little entertainment. Huh?
Put the ball in my hands, man.
It's pretty simple.
I agree.
We see what he can do when he get it.
I know that much.
Yes.
I know that much.
We're seeing flashes of greatness from the young rookie every time he touches the ball.
But for some reason, why not feed it to him?
It's common sense.
If there's going to be some type of shining light
on the Giants organization, allow it to be
a number one.
I'm based off what I've seen before.
Oh yeah, he's
for sure number one, Ocho.
Just give him the ball.
Let's throw it to him. But see, look, the Giants
not serious. Because you know
how I know they're not serious?
Because Drew Locke has been their backup.
Ocho, how would you feel? You the backup.
You the number two receiver to the X.
X get hurt.
They bring your backup or somebody
from the practice squad and put him in front of you.
I wonder what the reason for that was.
I mean, honestly speaking,
I would love to hear the truth behind that move
they ain't trying to win no games
I'm assuming you think without
they think they can win games
with Drew Lockett what you saying
he might stumble into one he might
get hot throw for 300 yards and win a cup
no no no no we gonna be bad
we gonna get us a high draft pick
we gonna sit right here where we are
and we gonna get us a high draft pick we're gonna sit right here where we are and we're gonna get a
quarterback wait whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa okay i know the quarterback you're talking to i think
you're over there in polo yeah who would have the number one pick right now
probably jacksonville travis hunter and jacksonville
no i don't like that i don'tville nah I don't like that
I don't like that
I don't like that
well that's
right now
that's
that's
somebody's gotta come up
and get him
I don't like
I don't like that
man you know
they ain't gonna trade
you know what I might
because the question is
can Travis Hunter
are you
Travis Hunter away from being competitive Baker May Mayfield, Ocho, is reportedly suing his father and brother investment firm for $12 million. Baker alleges misuse of the funds between 2018 and 21, saying they diverted money without authorization to cover expenses. You see, Ocho? You see, Ocho? Now, see, if he crashed out,
you're wrong. Why would you do that to your, why would you do that to your, why would you do that
to anybody, Ocho? Why would you take something from anybody but your brother, your son?
Wait a minute, now. You know what the root of all evil is? It's always been money.
What ruins families? Money. It always has, and it's always been that way. It's always been that way.
You can't trust anyone around that kind of money.
Hell, millions get thousands, hundreds of thousands,
and you add millions to the equation?
Absolutely not.
They're not going to do right.
Matter of fact, the people that do it for a living,
forget their investment firm.
When it comes to investing,
when it comes to earning,
to making money,
this happens all the time.
You get people power for turning,
empowered to do things
that they shouldn't be able to do
with your money.
Everyone always has a great idea
when it comes to weight,
when it's not theirs.
They always do.
Well, it ain't my business,
so I'm going gonna take the chance anyway
how many horror stories have you heard man during your era from players during my era
i'm gonna get this money back man that's a lot of my ocho
hell i've seen people do something bad to people for less yeah
oh much less and the funny thing about it think about all these situations like this when it comes I've seen people do something bad to people for less. Oh, yeah. Much less.
And the funny thing about it, think about all these situations like this when it comes to money being funneled out, you know, without the power of attorney, without the person actually knowing or willing.
Do they ever get their money back?
I've never heard of somebody recovering 100% on the dollar.
I mean, you might get 30, 40 cents on the dollar,
but still, Ocho.
Man, that's a lot of money.
First of all, 12 million.
If they spent 12 million,
that means Baker had to make 25 million because that's half.
I hope y'all understand that.
When you're in the tax bracket,
the Baker Mayfield is $12 million.
That means he had to make 25 million.
And it,
that's why you gotta be real careful.
You gotta be real careful.
Even with family.
I try,
I try what I try to do.
Ocho,
I,
me personally,
and I want what's best for my family, but I couldn't invest that. I couldn't invest that kind of do. Oh, Joe, I, I, me personally. And I, I want what's best for my family,
but I couldn't invest that.
I couldn't invest that kind of money.
No,
no,
no.
I'm not talking about Joe fan.
I'm saying in general,
I couldn't do,
I couldn't do the same either.
You have,
you have to have an understanding what money does to people.
And if you have people in your family or people that you're dealing with in
general,
I don't dare do anything for a dollar,
bro.
If it comes to the kind of money we making,
actually the kind of money we making right now,
they'll do anything.
If you got the wrong people in your corner,
if you had the wrong people in your corner that would do anything for a dollar,
they'd do anything to you for that as well.
Xavier Leggett said he's still not over his drop pass in the fourth quarter of yesterday's loss
against the Chiefs. He said he texted
Bryce Young last night saying he couldn't
have placed the ball any better and he's
going to make that play
up next time. I like X, man.
I like him.
I like how much
he's improved
on that offense, especially after my
comments months early in the season
about,
you know,
not having any weapons there.
And everybody over there
just stepped up.
Bryce Young has stepped up,
obviously having the confidence
that he needs
to be at the helm
and be the quarterback
and the leader of men,
you know,
in that Carolina Panthers team
and the receivers.
They've stepped up,
including X.
So, you know, you drop the ball, back to the drawing board, boy.
Move on.
It happens, bro.
24-hour rule.
There is a 24-hour rule.
It's just like playing DB.
You get beat on the play, okay, boom, you let it go.
You drop the ball.
Nah, DB, you ain't got 24 hours.
You got 24 seconds.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially in-game.
But the fact that he's still thinking about after the fact,
you got to let that go because you can't even let that linger like that.
You can't even let that linger like that.
You know, you're doing your thing.
You're doing your thing.
Continue to build on top one after another.
You don't want it to linger on to the next play.
Right, right, right.
You're thinking about a play you didn't make,
and here comes another play, and you F that one up.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. It happens every time. Bro, if you comes another play, and you F that one up. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
It happened every time.
Bro, if you play sports, you got to have amnesia.
Yeah.
Quick.
Hey.
Real quick.
I don't know what happened.
I was going to say, I know that they tied us up under there.
Hey, bro. X. Hey, bro, X.
Hey, bro, it happens.
You're going to probably drop some more.
But just make sure you catch more than you drop,
and you'll be just fine.
The Cowboys beat the Commanders to snap a five-game losing streak
by the score of 30-40-26.
In the last two minutes and 49 seconds, there was a 99.
There was a bobble kick return.
Devontae Turpin, Kavontae Turpin, excuse me,
picks the ball up and goes 99 yards for a touchdown.
Oh, that's the ball game.
Nah, the commander says, not so fast.
Jayden Daniels says, I believe I have one more miracle in me,
and it might not be a Hail Mary, but I got a pass for you.
He finds McLaurin, Terry McLaurin, 86-yard touchdown.
Ocho, we going to overtime.
The kicker comes on, the snapper.
Because here's the thing, Ocho, people think it's just the pressure on the kicker.
There's a pressure on the snapper and the holder.
Yeah.
And you see, it kind of threw his timing off
because the ball was a little low and the holder,
he bobbled a little bit and it wasn't even close.
It reminded me, I remember thinking to myself,
you remember when the Saints, they laterally,
the ball all the way down the field against Jacksonville,
got the touchdown and then missed the PAT that would have tied the game.
Boy, that's a heartbreaking way
to lose a game. You've done
all of that. 86 yards, the crowd
is in a frenzy. Your sideline
is in a frenzy, and then
it's just so anticlimactic
that you shank the PAT.
Now, you come back in,
Ocho, we're going onside it.
Dallas scoops the own side up and go
I'll ask you
but
how do I say this
the snapper
the holder and the kicker
they go through the same routine constantly
all week
all week
it's repetition repetition repetition repetition repetition repetition go through the same routine constantly all week, all week.
If it's repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition.
Yeah.
And especially when it comes to a game like this, where the game is on the line and it's on your hands and it's on your foot, you got one job.
You got one job.
The game of football is a game of inches.
There are very few plays, even out of 75,
maybe one, two, maybe three plays at best
that makes a difference in the game.
And when the opportunity comes,
you have to take advantage of those opportunities.
And tonight, they missed the opportunity
to give themselves the chance to win a game
against a Cowboys team that has been playing bad.
You could have buried them.
You win this game.
If Washington wins this game, they buried the Cowboys. This is over. Ain't no coming back. You could have buried them. You win this game. If Washington wins this game, they
buried the Cowboys. This season's over.
Ain't no coming back. You're 3-8.
You got six games to go. I believe
your season is over. Because
the Cowboys, they still got to go to Philly.
I don't believe they're meeting Philly.
In Philly. No.
So, you could have ended the Cowboys' season.
Now,
yeah, but
Jaden Daniels, prior to that last match,
he wasn't playing well.
He wasn't seeing the field particularly well, Ocho.
But I want to give the Cowboys D-line some credit.
They got after him.
Diggy Zua.
Micah.
Yeah, Micah.
Yeah.
They got after the defense was flying around.
Rico Didell, they had a rushing game.
Look, it wasn't great.
It wasn't great.
But 19 carries, 86 yards.
Caught the ball extremely well.
And think it, it was a makeshift line.
Your right guard is out.
Your left guard is out.
They moved Guyton, which was a great thing
because all he does is hold, get penalties.
And even when they brought his ass in,
guess what he did, Ocho?
Got you.
Looking around like, what?
Ocho, you know what I hate?
I wish I owned a video board.
Soon as they throw a flag, I know they're going to look.
I'm going to cut the video board off.
What you looking up there for?
You know what the hell you did.
You have a man.
That's why they threw a flag at your ass.
They be looking up there talking about, mm-mm, mm-mm.
Mm-mm, mm-mm.
You did it.
Yeah? It was you.
I'm like,
damn, son. And he's talking about
he don't know what. That ain't no whole yes it is.
But give the Cowboys credit,
Ocho. Like I said, Cooper Rush did a great
job, 24-32, 47-2
touchdowns. They ran the ball well
enough to keep
Washington off balance where they just couldn't
pin the Bears back.
T.C. had 10 for 67.
Schumacher, I think that's his name.
They just have
3 for 55 called a 24-yard
touchdown. But they had some guys
that make some big-time plays today, and that's what
you need to happen to go on the road
and get that nasty taste out of their mouth.
But those guys, hey, they got after the quarterback.
They hunted the quarterback today, and they
did a great job of that. They did a great job.
Now, let me say, when you look at the Cowboys
the last four
weeks, and you look at the Cowboys tonight, especially
from a defensive standpoint, why in the hell
do they look like they did today against a division
opponent, as opposed to not
looking like that against everybody else they've been playing?
Tell me so we both know.
I'm just curious.
I'm sitting there, I'm watching the game at the cigar
bar earlier, and I'm like, I'm saying
to myself, well, god damn, they sure
is playing well. You know, they're playing
well offensively. I'm talking about all three phases
of the game, whether it be defense, whether it be offense.
Yeah, they was playing motherf***ing good
on goddamn special teams.
But you look like f***ing everybody else.
They did, especially at home, because they've been down by 20 points or more
in the last, what, five, six home games.
And a lot of those home games, the games haven't been close.
The only game that was close this year is that they came back
and they were down by 20 against Baltimore.
All the other games that they've lost have been two score games,
but the kicker,
he missed a couple of day,
which is,
and he's a very reliable kicker.
He has,
I mean,
he has leg out of this world.
But other than that,
I thought defensively,
this was the best game defensively.
I thought overall as an offense,
they played well,
they ran the ball,
not great rushing numbers,
Ocho,
but they ran the ball well enough
to keep them off balance.
Turpin, who turned himself into the best returner in football,
and they got him out of the world, the USFL.
I think they got him out of the USFL.
They got the kicker out of the XFL or the USFL, whatever case may be,
and these guys are all pro.
That's turning to all pro players.
But give the
cowboys credit and guys see how easy it is if you play good we talk about you we say good things
but when you play bad i mean what other choice do you have now i wonder if somebody's gonna go on
the ig and say hey call me on the phone and talk good about me i'm just wondering you think that's
gonna happen no joe if they're gonna call you until you talk good about them?
No, yeah.
No, no.
Just tweet it.
No, no.
Go on IG.
IG posts and stuff like that.
You think they're going to say that?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
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C.J. Stroud's performance was a mixed bag. He threw multiple touchdown passes for the first time since October 13th in over a month,
but he also threw multiple interceptions for the second time in three weeks and was sacked four times.
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Dang.
Yeah.
Oh, Joe, maybe it's just me.
Talk to me now.
What's wrong with CJ?
I don't know.
He's not playing good.
You're going to have lows now, Unc.
You know that, right?
You know baseball.
Ocho, he hasn't played well this year, Ocho.
This is not a low.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
How many interceptions does he have now?
Hey.
What do you got, right?
You got eight, huh? Eight or seven? what do you got you got 8 8 or 7
nah okay
I'm off by 1
he got 14 touchdowns
Ocho
would you consider
this a sophomore slump
Ocho
they played 12 games
he has 14 touchdowns.
You heard me?
Would you consider this
a sophomore slump
as a quarterback?
I don't know.
I guess.
Look,
the thing that
that's most impressive
about great players,
Ocho,
is that even when they get taped on, you still have to account for them.
See, I was very fortunate.
I played against Reggie White with three different regimes.
I played him against him in 92, and we circled him on the board.
I played against him in 93, we circled him on the board.
I played him in 96, we circled him on the board.
I played him against him in the Super Bowl in 97, we circled him on the board. I played him in 96, we circled him on the board. I played him against him
in the Super Bowl in 97,
we circled him on the board.
You don't think they have
Phil Moncaten?
Brady?
Mahomes?
Lamar?
And I get it, you know,
Nico missed, what, four weeks?
That hamstring injury?
The whole line hasn't been
playing well either.
CJ Stroud, he's been getting hit a lot at quarterback.
Getting hit a lot.
I think it's also...
Something's off.
Something's off.
I don't know if he's injured, but something is off.
He just doesn't look as confident as he did last year.
Now, the one thing that you can't do,
you can talk about it,
but you got to go out there and be about it.
There have been a lot of great ones. There have been a lot of
guys that have had one great season, Ocho.
Can you put them together?
Can you do it back-to-back?
Can you do it back-to-back?
Can you do it for four years?
Can you do it for five years? Can you do it for four years can you do it for five years can
you do it for six years how many how many times you've seen guys go have a great season go to
the pro bowl oh joe be an all pro he'll be able to put it back to back but also if you look if
you look at the texans in the entirety of the season up to this point and see why he's been
throwing the interceptions you know his decision making is not as sharp as it was last year with the ball,
getting hit upside the head.
Every time he dropped back,
being rushed,
not being able to go through his progressions,
you know,
missing a Nico Collins,
Diggs being out,
you know,
there are factors that are going in why the season is going the way it is
so far this year for him, you know, from a statistical standpoint.
Why it doesn't look like it did last year with the historic run he had as a rookie.
I mean, there have been some things that have happened.
So, you know, he hasn't been able to overcome it.
Me personally?
Me personally, Ocho, I think the digs is less because he's only been playing with him for three months.
Nico Collins, that's the guy that he has the relationship with.
That's the guy that helped him win offensive rookie of the year.
Nico Collins was a Pro Bowl player last year.
He's a very talented young receiver.
He's tremendous, can play through contact,
can make tough contests to catch it.
He's great run after the catch.
He can get behind the team.
Tank Dale is another one that's really good. He's a great run after the catch. He can get behind the team.
Tank Dale is another one that's really good.
He only had three catches today.
And they didn't run the ball particularly well.
They only had 17 attempts.
But Tennessee's defense is good now.
They're good.
Now, Will Levin sometimes puts them in harm's way. He turns the ball over a lot.
But you see that pick six?
Boy, I know the coach me want to put his foot in his ass.
Yeah.
I'm like, bro, everybody knows when they see you line up like that,
if two people run in the slant, they know the first slant has been cleared.
The guy, he not going to go.
He going to bait you.
It's the same thing they got Brady with in the Super Bowl.
Alfred.
No, I'm not.
I'm going to go right here.
Go get it.
All right, girl.
Go right.
Number two.
You going to hit me right here, and if I catch it, I'm going to the house.
But if you look at Simons and you look at some of those guys, man,
they can get out to your quarterback now.
They can get out to your quarterback.
Harold Landry, they got some really, really, really good,
talented players on the defensive side of football.
You look at one kid got a tight end, caught a pass, 70-yard touchdown.
Westbrook caught a 38-yard touchdown.
It was the big plays that was really killing the Texans.
And Pollard, you got him boxed up.
You got him for a four or five-yard loss.
Somehow he comes out of that for a 27-yard gain.
How many times did it look like they had him behind the line?
He got out of there.
And he's getting first down.
He's getting five, six, seven yards.
You got to fit.
You got to get the guy.
It's not good enough to get there. You got to get the guy. It's not good enough to get there.
You got to get the guy on the ground.
I mean, if you force a team to shoot the ball,
the possession doesn't end until you get the rebound.
If you force them into a bad shot and they grab the rebound,
what the hell have you done?
Well, if you get there, you got the guy hemmed up,
and you don't get him on the ground behind the line of scrimmage when you got an opportunity, what have you done? Well, if you get there, you got the guy hemmed up, and you don't get him on the ground behind the line of scrimmage when you got
an opportunity, what have you done?
Damn.
Texas got to make a decision.
Texas, look,
at this division...
It's still up for grabs, ain't it?
Well, yeah, if the
Colts can put something together.
Look, the Colts,
look, they played the Lions.
They played the Lions.
And Richardson made some throws, but there are some throws that he missed.
He had Pierce wide open for a touchdown.
Very inconsistent, huh?
Very inconsistent, you know, when throwing the ball,
whether it be short routes, intermediate routes,
throwing stuff that is under 12, under 12, under 12, and 5 and 6 yards.
And I'm talking about throwing And I'm throwing bullets.
Like, throwing bullets.
He had learned to.
You can't throw everything.
I call it, I mean, listen, they used to say,
you got to be able to be a thrower of the ball.
You got to be a thrower of the ball.
You know, there are multiple ways you can throw it, man,
to get it in there.
Make it a catchable ball all the time for your receivers.
Everything don't have to be a goddamn bullet, man.
Yes.
The Texans offense in the second half, Ocho, 54 yards, three points,
four first down, never crossed midfield, and 40% pressure rate allowed.
Now, you see, teams believe now if we heat CJ up,
we can call them
some problems.
Yeah,
when your offensive line
is playing bad like that,
you can heat them up
and call them some problems
because bringing
heat last
didn't work.
Bringing heat last
didn't work?
Well,
well damn,
how many offensive linemen
are they without now?
Because it looks like
the same offensive line
I mean,
Chad,
am I off?
So who did they lose offensive line. I mean, Chad, am I off? So who did they lose
offensive line-wise?
Hey.
Oh, Joe, it's okay
to see Jay Clark win.
We can't.
So let me ask you a question.
So Daniel Jones,
we going to put that
on the offensive line?
Oh, they bad too, boy.
Yeah.
Okay.
We going to put that
offensive line in the Jets
because we saw it with Darnold.
We saw it with Zach Wilson.
Now we get with Aaron Rodgers.
So is that the line?
So,
because every time a quarterback plays bad,
we can't keep playing the line.
We can't keep shaping the lane now.
Just CJ said it himself.
He's not playing well.
He's not.
I'm not saying the offensive line not adding to it,
but we can't play all of this.
I said CJ Stroud not playing well at all,
but I said also the offensive line and their play in
allowing C.D.
Stroud
to continue
to get hit
matter of fact
let me ask
you a question
I'm not sure
what the stat is
what quarterback
has been sacked
the most in the NFL
who's been
sacked the most
watch this
hell
Mahomes
Mahomes is up
there too
while you
boob jobbing
did you see
Mahomes running
for his life
I think he got sacked four or five times today Mahomes is up there too. Why you boob-jobbing? Did you see Mahomes running for his life?
I think he got sacked four or five times today.
Caleb Williams is sacked the most.
Then CJ.
CJ second?
Okay.
Yeah.
Where's Mahomes?
Hey, they had Mahomes. Mahomes had to pick him up and put him down, don't you know? He got one long run every game.
Listen, you know what that is, right?
You don't want to hit the quarterback.
You think he's going out of bounds?
And every day, instead of going out of bounds, he cut it up the field and keep on going?
Hey, well, you're going to go out of bounds because I'm coming to knock hell out of you.
Because if you remember, they find, hold on,
somebody, who did that?
The guy was going out of bounds, and the guy hit it,
and they called a personal foul.
I said, so what you think?
I'm supposed to let him leisurely run out of bounds?
I'm trying to knock his block off.
The game is different.
The game is different than the quarterbacks.
Well, some quarterbacks, especially Mahomes,
are taking advantage of the rules.
Well, I know he's not going to hit me, right?
So I'm going to get on.
I'm going to bend this corner and look like I'm going out of bounds,
and I'm going to stay in and cut back in.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Hey, but, yeah, look, it looks like they're gonna win this division
and guess what when you win your division guess what
up Socho you get a home playoff game
but if you're not careful you'll be one and done
yeah
you'll be one and done
because any of those
teams any of the teams
I mean cause guess what
you might get Baltimore
is that what you really want Is that what you really want?
Is that what you really want to show?
I don't want to do that.
Exactly.
You might get Pittsburgh.
Is that what you want?
I don't want to do that either.
Oh, Joe, the fans demolished the Patriots 34-15.
Jared Moyer is the hot water for what he said after the game
on the Patriots' mistake in performance.
Look at once those guys cross the white lines,
there's nothing I can do for them.
Let me listen.
It's not.
It's not.
Listen, you got...
You can't say that, though.
You got Wednesday, you got Thursday,
you got Friday,
you got walk-through Saturday.
You prepare.
He's done everything again.
You have meetings.
You got meetings on top of meetings.
You have a meeting about a meeting
based on the team you plan.
You don't watch film all goddamn week.
He's done everything that he can do to prepare you for the goddamn Dolphins,
all three phases of the game, offensively, defensively, and special teams.
When Sunday comes at 1 o'clock, there is nothing that Gerard Mayo can do for you
other than to prepare you for your team or that team all goddamn week.
What you mean he can't say that?
That's exactly what he...
I mean, he's telling the truth.
That's the problem.
Ocho, it's okay.
We know that.
But you can't say that you the coach.
You talking like you a fan.
You can't say that you're the coach.
Hey, hey, listen. He telling the truth, though. I know you a fan or something. You can't say that. You're the coach. Hey, hey, listen.
He telling the truth, though.
I know you got to be PC.
I know you say stuff like that.
But, you know, it's very interesting.
It's refreshing to hear a coach tell the goddamn truth for a change.
Yes.
I just, I can't do nothing for you.
I can't do nothing for you.
But when y'all didn't play well,
you couldn't go out there and say, man, Carson's up.
Now, you know.
Whoa, whoa.
You know I'm not crossing that line.
I wasn't in a position
to be able to cross that line.
For one, I was already the villain.
I already tore the line. I already pushed the envelope.
Now, I definitely ain't going to open my mouth
and say no craziness like that. I know where draw the line now but there are times that your offense
didn't play well or the defense didn't play well or maybe you guys weren't as prepared as you needed
to be you just bite the bullet say we need to play better we'll play better next week give that team
credit you know they came they executed better than we did they took care of
they handled their business but hey we we learned from it and we move forward but there's something
hey bro yeah they're supposed to be they're supposed to be always something you can do to
help your team whether you can or you can't you say there there's something. We need to do a better job of coaching them up.
We got our play today.
We got our coach today.
But now we'll go back and look at the tape.
We'll see what we did good, which wasn't much.
There are things that we can improve upon, which is a lot,
and we'll get better.
That's what practice is for.
We'll learn from the mistakes that we made.
We'll coach them up better.
They'll play better, and we'll be better from it
damn I sound like a coach
you know there's one thing I will say
one thing I can say
for the Patriots for the fans for Gerard Mayo
they found
their quarterback of the future I can tell you that
oh yeah for sure
that goddamn Drake Mayboy
boy he nice he the real deal
they even found their got the quarterback.
I don't care what Gerard Mayo said today.
There's one thing I know as a fan, as a Patriot fan,
you can feel good about your quarterback situation.
All you got to do is build around him.
You're going to be all right.
Yep.
You're right.
I like it.
I like it.
Now, you got to get him some more weapons, though, Ochoa.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm surprised they didn't run the buddy look.
Miami is getting hot at the right time.
Tua, 29-40, 3-17,
four touchdowns, clean game.
They turned it over. Jalen Waddle
broke out of his slump, 8-4, buck 44,
a touchdown. John Lewis Smith,
9-87, a touchdown.
Back-to-back week, now he got three touchdowns
in the past two weeks.
Devon A. Chan.
A. Chan.
A. Chan.
A. Chan.
Yeah.
Chan.
A. Chan.
Three for 24.
He only had 24 yards on show.
Two tubs, though.
But I thought Tua threw the ball exceptionally well today.
He did a great job.
He only got sacked twice.
Hey, they got to get my dog Chita going, man.
I ain't letting Chita be. Hey, they got to get my dog Chetah going, man. I ain't letting Cheetah be...
Hey, they got to get my dog Cheetah going, man.
They got to do something.
Man, put him in the backfield.
Put him at running back.
I don't know, man. Do something.
Do whatever you need to do. Mike McDaniels, you're very
creative. You're a very creative coach.
But man, we can't have a season like we had
last year with Cheetah. And then obviously
we know goddamn two of them is games.
But, man, nah, man, forget that, man.
I'm trying to get Cheetah the ball in any way possible.
But I want to – you got to keep young bull happy over there, man,
because you know what they do.
They love to use instances like this where the numbers don't look like they did
last year and the first thing they talk about, well, we think he done lost a step.
No, I did.
But they just gave
a contract.
I understand that. You know what they'll do to you
after just giving you a contract? That don't mean nothing.
Understand this business and how this business works.
You know that.
Go ahead. Go ahead and release me. I'll take
my ass right back to Kansas City.
Hey, he ain't
going nowhere. That's the last thing. Do you want him back in Kansas City with Mahone can you make... That's the last thing.
Do you want him back in Kansas City with
Mahone? No, because you might as well just put
a goddamn trophy on the mantle right now.
Exactly.
Because now you're going to have him
worthy. You know they just
added a Taekwon Thornton to the...
So now you got 4-2-1,
you got 4-2-7, and you got
4-2-9. That's nasty.
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The Chiefs escape Carolina with the last second win.
Tied in Noah Gray. Two touchdowns, which with the last second win, tied in Noah Gray.
Two touchdowns, which is the most yards of separation
the Chiefs received in a touchdown in the past two seasons.
He was wide open, needless to say.
After weeks of carrying the offense,
Steve Spagnuolo's crew hit a November low
for consecutive week KC defense allowed 325-plus yards.
We knew it was going to happen, Ocho.
Look, I've been a part of a historic defense.
But there are games that if we didn't play our absolute best
offensively, we would have lost.
That's what Kansas City had to do today.
Turnovers, it probably would have cost me,
it probably would have lost the game.
Mahomes was 27 to 37, 269, three touchdowns.
Got sacked five times, though.
Noah Gray, four catches, 66 yards, two touchdowns.
Travis Kelsey's like, man, y'all over here doubling and tripling B,
and he eating every week.
He had two last, what did he have, two today?
He had one last, I think he had like two last week.
He got about five or six touchdowns.
Hey, that's the Kelsey effect.
He's not
letting you beat me.
I'm not.
I'm not.
But the offensive line, man, it seems
like, I don't know, maybe it's my television,
but it seems like every time Mahomes drop back,
he's running for his life.
He is.
No disrespect, but the tackle play is very bad.
The tackle play is
very bad.
I tell you what.
If the 49ers let
Dub go,
Tricky Dub,
Kansas City better
back the Brink.
You know,
they're going to back it up.
Even at his age,
he's still one of the best
he might be.
He might be the best
left tackle.
He premier.
He's still that boy.
He's still him.
I mean,
because they tried,
they tried,
they tried to get him
in free agency
and Kansas City,
you know,
he's familiar, you know, he's familiar with Kyle.
He played for Mike.
So he's familiar with that situation.
But I think Ocho with an opportunity, he wants an opportunity.
He wants to win.
He wants to win that Super Bowl.
And Kansas City, as long as you got that quarterback and you got that
I think they're better positioned than the 49ers.
That's just me personally.
I could be wrong.
But can you imagine him at left tackle protecting that blind side?
The Jets could reportedly release Aaron Rodgers this season.
Oh.
End season.
Say it again.
Say it again.
Now rewind it again.
Rewind it again.
Go ahead.
Rewind it.
Late.
The Jets could reportedly release Aaron Rodgers in season.
Rodgers wants to play in 2025.
Whoa.
Not with the Jets.
Time out.
Time out, man.
Time out.
Time out.
Hold on.
Let me get my flag.
Let me get my,
let me get my flag.
It's a flag on the plate.
Let me get a flag.
All right.
I got my flag.
I know it's white, but we're going to pretend it's yellow.
I just threw the flag.
Okay.
I just threw the flag.
You're giving up.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Okay.
Where's he going?
What's the call to play?
You know what's funny?
When it comes to a quarterback like this, with a resume like this,
even though the NFL is all about what have you done for me lately?
When Aaron Rodgers said, you know what? As desperate as teams are to have a quarterback, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the opportunity after what he just said.
If they do release him, if the Jets do release him and start over as far as searching for a quarterback, Aaron Rodgers will get a job simply because of what he's done in the past.
They're going to hold on to that.
They're going to hold on to the,
how many times MVP?
Four?
If I'm not right, four?
Shit.
Four.
He's won a Super Bowl?
Man, he's going to get another chance.
Super Bowl.
Diana Rossini.
Uh-huh.
Diana Rossini.
Right.
When she talks about the Jets, let's listen to what she has to say.
I'm told Johnson has lost confidence in Rodgers' ability to lead the team to the playoffs for the first time in 14 years,
a drought that now stands as the longest in major North American professional sports league.
There are some on the team who believe everyone is simply tip-torn around the fact
Rodgers isn't the same player anymore.
Some around the league say they won't be surprised if Rodgers is cut in the season.
As far as Rodgers, his relationship with the owner has been strained for months.
That's not a secret in the building or the locker room.
At this point, after conversation with Sorsage,
with the team, and around the league,
my understanding is Rodgers' stand still wants to play in 2025.
I like it.
Just not with the Jets.
I like it, but I don't like it.
I like it, but I don't like it because I want to break down.
I want to break down the other 31 teams.
There are many teams that don't even need a quarterback.
What teams can Aaron Rodgers go to make a difference where you couldn't make a difference
when you're in New York?
They gave you the player you wanted.
They gave you everything.
They gave you everything you wanted.
You wanted Alizard.
You got Brees Hall.
I mean, come on now.
What are we doing?
Remember, Ocho?
Last year, remember last year
they got a
what you call a
final call for it
and then
if he is to go to a team
it has to be a team
where
he doesn't have to do much
because his supporting cast
can hold him up
he can't go to a team
that has
less talent
and make them better
he needs somebody to uplift him for the longest time that has less talent and make them better.
He needs somebody to uplift him
for the longest time
he could uplift
other players,
other teammates.
Time to change.
He can no longer do that.
There's nowhere for him to go, huh?
There's nowhere for him to go.
If you think about it,
there's nowhere for him to go.
Where are you going?
Tell me so we both know. I think about it, it's nowhere for him to go. Where are you going? Tell me so we both know.
I think, listen, Aaron, Aaron, what?
You better focus and lock in.
You better focus and lock in because you're going to be on the outside
looking in a minute.
Bro, football been stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers.
Y'all can see what y'all want to say.
Aaron Rodgers been, and football was the last.
Football gave him the ability to have the cachet
to talk about all the other stuff that he cared to talk about.
Y'all know this.
Y'all see it.
Y'all see the man's demeanor.
Y'all see his behavior.
Y'all saw the way he conducted himself.
Football been stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, he's one of the few.
You know, Aaron Rodgers has what most don't, what
mostly all quarterbacks do.
He has privilege, and he's one of the few
that have that privilege. He abuses
that privilege and the power that he has because of what
he's done in the NFL.
He's one of the few that does it.
Nobody else would be able to get away with some of the things.
Can you imagine you?
Forget you, because you follow the rules.
Let's say me, who bent the rules and always told the line.
No.
And never crossed it.
Can you imagine if I said, you know what?
I'm not going to minicab.
I'm going on a retreat because I already had something planned.
What?
Can you imagine?
Yeah, I can imagine.
They'll find you or cut you. What the hell are you talking about? yeah I could imagine they'd have
fired you
or cut you
what the hell
are you talking
about
that's what
happened
hey
all I know
is that
Antonio Brown
didn't go to
a team meeting
and they cut
him
they had a
meeting
they had a
walkthrough
in the ball
room
he didn't
show up
and they cut him.
They don't play.
Certain people are extended.
See, y'all get upset with me when I tell the truth.
See, my thing is I don't know why anybody would question.
Because y'all see, I call it right down the middle.
It doesn't matter if you're Aaron Rodgers, you're Tom Brady,
Peyton Manning,
Lamar Jackson, or Patrick Mahomes.
If I see it, I'm just going to be honest.
I've been telling you guys for the longest, Aaron Rodgers is an arrogant,
condescending, flippant.
He blames everyone. He takes no responsibility for himself.
He's been that. He takes no responsibility for himself. He's been that.
He's always been that.
But he won MVP, so everybody overlooked it.
Now he can no longer be an MVP.
Everybody said what I've been saying for years.
Yeah, but when you had that kind of resume like Aaron Rodgers,
when you had that kind of success for so long, you know,
when you're a franchise quarterback like that,
and when you're a Super Bowl champion, you extended a different type of grace,
especially at the quarterback position.
Yes, for sure.
That's there.
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yes, sir.
But, Ocho, one of the things,
you have to say,
boy, if you're not careful,
you will become the very thing
you despise the most in a person.
He despised the way
Brett Favre treated him.
Did he not turn around
and become the very thing
he despised the most?
Yeah.
He what?
Oh, have mercy.
So y'all don't want to listen to me. Oh, I'm talking like he was.
He don't know what he's talking about. So y'all say talk a lot. Y'all don't really be saying I don't know what I'm talking about, because when it come to fruition, the first thing you saw, oh, Captain Obvious.
Well, why did you say it? If it was so obvious, you could have said it. Yeah. Look, I got out of there. He didn't want to come to minicamps. He wanted
everything to be his way. Isn't that what
Brett Favre, isn't that why they got Brett Favre outside of there?
Now, where did Brett Favre go when he left Green Bay?
Tell the people how long, Ocho.
The New York Jets?
Ocho, tell the people how long did Brett Favre
stay in New York? Hey, hold on, hold on.
Where'd he go next? So, are we
saying that Aaron Rodgers is probably going to beat him in Minnesota?
I don't know.
They got J.J. McCarthy.
No, McCarthy.
They got J.J. McCarthy.
Yeah.
No.
And he's already missed a year.
You're not going to sit him back another year.
No.
And I'm drafting a quarterback.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
What is Aaron Rodgers going to do?
At most, he plays a year
and you think I'm going
to pass on a quarterback
for a year?
Are we sure
he can elevate my team?
The Jets thought he could.
How'd that work out for them?
They gave up draft capital
and they're worse off
than they were
when they had
when they had
Zach Wilson,
when they had
Sam Darnold,
when they have
whomever else
they had at quarterback.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Zach Wilson, when they had Sam Darnold, when they have whomever else they had at quarterback. Bruh,
you're not getting a Tom Brady
Indy. You're not getting a
Nate Fanny. What if he changed his mindset? What if he
changed his approach to the game?
Or it's too late?
It's too late? Can't.
Ocho,
how you do something for 20 years and you won MVP and you won a Super Bowl,
you change your mindset.
Tom Brady couldn't change his mindset if he could because he still had that
underdog mentality.
All he saw himself, as accomplished as he was, was a sixth-round draft pick
that nobody wanted until the sixth round.
That's all he ever saw himself.
He always felt, I got to go in and prove that I got to make the team.
Even though after one Super Bowl, two Super Bowls, three Super Bowls,
MVP, MVP, MVP, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl,
I've got to prove it.
Peyton Manning every year, prove it, prove it, prove it.
It's always been about him.
He's always been condescending. He's always been flippant it it's always been about him damn he's always been
condescending he's always been flippant he's always been arrogant he's always been aloof
you overlooked it because he's winning mvps now he's the same player
you don't you don't change when you lose you change. See, losing doesn't change who you are.
It reveals who you are.
That's what losing does.
It reveals your...
It don't build character.
It reveals it.
That's what we said.
Just like anger and just like someone that drinks.
You finally get to see some colors. just like anger and just like someone, someone that drinks. Finally,
you finally get to see some colors when they're angry.
They tell you how they really feel.
People like,
Oh,
he got money.
He changed.
No money.
Doesn't change you.
It makes you more of what you already are.
You don't get money and become generous.
You don't. That and become generous you don't that's always money will allow you to do.
People that have
money and that are nice
and respectful,
they've always been that way.
I guarantee you, you go
look at anybody and they'll tell you, I don't
need to call no name, but when they got
money, they say, they've been that way.
But if we're on the same level,
how can I be a real jerk
when we're on the same level?
But let me get a little
advantage over you.
Listen, money does some
strange things to people.
It does some strange things.
It's hard to remain yourself.
You know, you get it.
But if you are able to control it and don't allow it to control you, it's a to remain yourself. You know, you get it. But if you are able to control it
and don't allow it to control you,
it's a beautiful thing.
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It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
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