Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bama beatdown, Colorado shines, Georgia Tech upsets Miami

Episode Date: November 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jalen Milroe and  #11 Alabama Crimson tide 42-13 beatdown on #15 LSU in an SEC showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Deion “Coach Prime” ...Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter and #20 Colorado Buffaloes 41-27 win against the Texas Tech Red Raiders, Georgia Tech upsets Cam Ward and the #4 Miami Hurricanes and much more!03:13 - Show start03:38 - Intro05:20 - Bamma beats down LSU tigers12:30 - CU beats TT50:00 - Ole Miss beats GA54:17 - GT upsets Miami01:01:30 - Quin Ewers/Texas beat Fla(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:59 just as of last week. Quantities are limited. Please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Ochoa, I mentioned it earlier, the number 11 Alabama Crimson Tide goes into Death Valley, beat down the number 15 LSU Tigers by the score of 42-14. Jalen Milrow was sensational last night. Last night.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Tonight. He did not put the ball in harm's way, and that's what they're going to have to do in order for them to go to the place that they want to go, which is the SEC championship. Got their work cut out for them because they have two losses. And there are a lot of teams that only have one loss. So they got to hope they got to continue to win and then hope somebody else knocks off a Tennessee or Texas A&M and some of these other schools that have only one loss. Jalen Melrose throwing the ball tonight was 12 of 18, 109 yards, but that's
Starting point is 00:05:48 not where he did his damage. 12 carries, a buck 85, four touchdowns, and the last rushing touchdown of 72 yarder was basically the straw that broke the Campbell's back, but I don't think no one really thought after watching this game for as long as they did, they thought LSU was ever going to
Starting point is 00:06:04 come back and win this game. 48 rushes, 311 yards, six touchdowns for Alabama, and a very opportunistic defense, Ocho. Alabama did a great job of when they got close, when LSU got close, picked them off once in the end zone, picked up a strip sack. Once Alabama had turned it over on downs, the very next play, Alabama defense rise to the occasion and takes the ball right back. Jalen Melrose runs it in for a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And basically once the game got 21-6, looking at the way LSU was, their inability to consistently move the ball, I felt very comfortable unless Alabama did something crazy like turn the ball over, let them get a scoop and score a pick six. I didn't think they could do enough, LSU could, offensively. I think Brian Kelly's
Starting point is 00:06:53 probably banging his head. He's like, man, this was a game. It started raining. You know when it starts raining, the likelihood of you throwing the ball isn't very good. Now you got to rely on your running attack. And that's what Alabama did.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Alabama put the ball in their best player's hand, which is Jalen Milrow, and he delivered. And when he's playing like he played tonight, they're going to be hard to beat. Kind of like when he played against Georgia. But there are some games that they lost where he turned the ball over. And Alabama defense isn't what it once was. They used to go get your quarterback before because they had the Quinney Williams, they had the Jonathan Allen, they
Starting point is 00:07:31 had the D lineman that could go hunt, and they had corners and safeties on the back end that could, you know, you had Sertan and you had McKinney. They don't have those type of players right now, Ocho. And so it's hard to consistently get pressure on the quarterback
Starting point is 00:07:49 unless they bring additional pressure. And then you sacrifice your back end. But I thought Alabama came to play tonight. They knew what was at stake. You lose this game. There goes the chance at the SEC championship. There's the opportunity for the college football playoffs. This was a game that they had to have, and they went on the road and got it.
Starting point is 00:08:09 But listen, also, it's very important. The quarterback play has to be consistent. What happens, even with the games they do have left, what happens when you have a game where you can't be one-dimensional, where you can't just run the ball up and down the field? What happens when it's not raining? So Miro is going to have to be efficient from the pocket and being able to be elusive and extend plays
Starting point is 00:08:29 and be off script with it and not turn the ball over. Because some games you're going to play, you're not going to be able to run like that. You're not going to be able to have touchdowns and run down the field for 70, 70, 70 yards, however long his run was. So if Alabama, from the quarterback position, can be as efficient as he was tonight
Starting point is 00:08:46 in the passing game when they don't allow you to run alabama has a chance they will have a chance yeah i thought the offensive line did a pretty good job of protecting him um lsu thought they had got it got a stop on third down but they got a face mask call and the next thing you know they go down the field and score a touchdown um but when you look at this game you're absolutely right look ryan williams has been quiet the last couple of weeks obviously they've been paying a lot more attention to him than what they have in the beginning of the season because a lot of people probably thinking a 17 year old guy that should be going to his his high school prom has no business playing college football but he was outstanding earlier but now they're paying a little bit more attention to him um i i just feel low joe as long as milroy don't doesn't put the ball
Starting point is 00:09:29 in harm's way alabama is they're not the alabama they're not nick saban's alabama when they had two uh and they had uh uh who's the other quarterback that they had what's the uh greg mccarroy uh yeah uh they had another one they went, Greg McElroy. Yeah. They had another one. They went Ponder. They won a championship with Ponder. They won another one with that Brent Musburger
Starting point is 00:09:51 was going Google Gaga over his girlfriend. What was that? What was that with AJ McCarron? They don't have defenses to support the team like those guys
Starting point is 00:10:02 and like those quarterbacks had defenses. You know why? You know why they don't have the same players? Are they not as dominant as they used to be? What's that? That NIL. That NIL, huh?
Starting point is 00:10:10 The NIL has even the playing field with all the big schools that have the boosters and have the money to be able to afford the players. Yeah. So now everybody's spread out all over the place. Now the playing field is even. Now coaching comes into play that much more when it comes to playing some of the better schools that are just as equal as you when it comes to talent and skill level yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:10:29 and so uh alabama and a game they absolutely had to have in order to cut their college football playoff hopes alive to keep their sec west uh uh hopes alive they had to win this game by any means necessary and they did it behind a very very vaunted running attack jaylen milrow 12 carries a buck 85 four touchdowns they got six carries for 21 yard 27 yards on the touchdown from young haynes have a touchdown so i mean you can't you can't play any better run the ball any better than what they ran it. 48 carries, 311 yards, six touchdowns with a long of 72. And they did it, like I said, they did a great job of neutralizing LSU's running game. LSU had 24 for a buckle four.
Starting point is 00:11:15 That's not even five yards of carry. That's more like, that's a little over, I mean, excuse me, that's not even five yards of carry. It's a little over four yards of carry. You can live with that, Ocho. And they had 239 passing yards, but a lot of it was late in the ballgame. The game was pretty much in hand. And like I said, they did a great job of keeping Nussmeyer off schedule.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They pressured him just enough that when he had times, he saw goals, he saw things that weren't there. He never got comfortable sitting at feet and throwing the football with any level of consistency. And that's what you have to do. Even if you don't get the quarterback on the ground, you pressure him enough that they start to see ghosts and they start to feel the pressure, even though
Starting point is 00:11:54 you're not close enough to cause any damage. They speed themselves up. They speed themselves up. So Alabama, number 11, Alabama, keeps their college football playoff hopes alive and their SEC title hopes alive with a 42-13 win over number 15 LSU in Death Valley. Number 20, Colorado, goes on the road. Takes down Texas Tech by the score of 41-27.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Colorado followed four punts in the beginning of the game with four touchdowns and a field goal to take the lead 31 20 after three quarters shador sanders threw two touchdown passes and ran for a score travis hunter had nine catches 99 yards on a touchdown shador was 30 or 43 291 uh shallow recovered a fumble ran into the end zone with 51 seconds left colorado has won his third consecutive game and is on pace to play in the Big 12 championship game with a chance to qualify for the 12-team college football playoffs. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. You know what?
Starting point is 00:12:53 I like the schematically what they did defensively. Normally, goddamn Colorado defensively, they play man-to-man 70, damn near 73 73 percent of the time today they zoned up they switched it up a little bit knowing that goddamn texas tech gonna come out and throw that thing 100 times the game and they switch things up a little bit that i think that was smart on their part that was smart on their part travis hunter um i just i gotta ask yeah has your thought on travis hunter being able to play both sides of the ball at the next level changed at all? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:28 It hasn't changed yet? No. Okay. I just want to know what you say. The running game, defensively, they did very well against the running game as well. Mm-hmm. So.
Starting point is 00:13:40 You could live. I mean, Texas Tech ran the ball 46 times for 113 yards. That's not even three yards of carry. No, it was bad. They held. Oh, I can't remember. What's the back name? He's 31 for 137. Four yards of care. You can get you can live with that. But they sack the quarterback enough and it took it took yardage away because when you sack the quarterback it takes away from your rushing yard so uh if he doesn't take those away ocho it's a decent day but he didn't he didn't hurt him no he didn't and you know what they were getting pressure they were getting four-man pressure too yes they were getting
Starting point is 00:14:20 pressure getting you know getting to move around so So they had some success, and they looked different defensively, especially playing. If it was Texas Tech playing the Colorado team of last year, I think it would have been a different score. I do too. It would have been a different score. Well, I think the thing is, look, they're a man team, but when you play a team that likes to throw the ball like Texas Tech,
Starting point is 00:14:42 you zone it off. You don't want to get rubbed off. Because a lot of times times they run a lot. Now, Texas Tech doesn't throw it like they once did when they had Patrick Mahomes, when they had Graham Harrell, and they had all these other quarterbacks. They don't throw
Starting point is 00:14:57 it like that. They're a little bit more balanced, but they can throw it. But I thought it was smart because they're thinking one thing, that they're going to get a lot of man and they get a lot of zone. And so I thought it confused them early on. And then once Colorado was able to settle in, they took off. Like I said, like, you know, we started off by saying they had four straight punts.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And then all of a sudden they go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. And they did a great job of really controlling the game after that. I thought, Ocho, they should have put the game away a lot earlier with some of those – Yeah, way earlier. The game should have been over. It should have never come down.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It should have never come down to it. It was a seven-point game with, like, a minute 10, minute 15 seconds left of the ball game, and you end up having to get a scoop and score. Because this game, Shador and all your – a lot of your starters, with the exception of the offensive line because you don't draft 10, 11 offensive linemen should have been on the sidelines. But I thought Pat
Starting point is 00:15:51 got a little bit conservative in his play calling and maybe times like, hey, look, let's not do anything crazy. Defense is doing a great job. Hey, defense continue to pressure the quarterback. Let's try to take the ball away, but they didn't give up anything cheap. The guy made a great play on the touchdown to pull him within seven. He made a great play.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Give him credit for that. But I love the way Colorado was playing. Who do they have next week, Ash? Not even next week. Look at the next three. The next three games, I looked at this guy. I think it's Utah, Kansas, and somebody else. They got a chance.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They really got a good chance to run the next three games. They got Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State. I think Kansas beat Oklahoma State today. Utah is not the power team that they've
Starting point is 00:16:40 been over the last couple of years. So that's winnable. Who did Kansas beat? Kansas beat somebody, did they? UCF. Kansas beat UCF. And so look, Oklahoma is not what they... Oklahoma State isn't what they've
Starting point is 00:16:58 been in the past couple of years. Utah isn't what they've been in the last couple of years. That doesn't mean I was... Okay, yeah. Iowa State. That doesn't mean I was okay. Yeah, I will state that doesn't mean that they can't raise up and play above what they've been playing and beat you. You still have to bring your best package, your best pass protection, your best run game, your best defense, and let's see what happens.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I think time will have them ready to play. Seven and two, they won 10 games that's the first time that they had a coach to win go win 10 wins in a combined season uh since gary barnett 99 and 2000 that just goes to show you a team that won four games last year looks like it's about to double that win total up this year uh there are a lot of people that's disappointed that coach prime is doing so well because there are a lot of people that want to see him fail for whatever reason maybe he didn't do an interview with you uh maybe you don't like the way you know that they call him a false prophet i don't get it i don't know why it's not like you go into his church you're not a member of his congregation this is
Starting point is 00:18:00 the funny thing even the even the people that want to see him fail think about everything if you follow coach prime's career everything you go everywhere he goes, even whether it's on the field or whether it's off the field, everything he does and puts his time in, it turns a goal. Everything he does and puts his time in, it comes into fruition, and there's success behind it. So if you watch him at the high school level, he succeeded. If you watch him at the collegiate level, even at Jackson State, he succeeded. It was only a matter of time, even here at Colorado. Now, you think about what he's done so far in such a short amount of time.
Starting point is 00:18:30 What do you think it's going to look like next year? What do you think is going to happen when the portal hits next year? What do you think Kidd is going to want to do? I'm going to worry about this year because unless they get another Shadur and Travis Hunter, let's go ahead and get this year year out the way right now you you know you know they're gonna get quarterbacks you know the quarterbacks are going to want to come play there i don't think that's gonna be the issue yeah get another player getting another skill player and snatching somebody else from one of those other power five schools oh they you know
Starting point is 00:18:59 and and travis can be a top can both be top five picks now what's the likelihood you get two top five picks out of the portal absolutely so what's Now, what's the likelihood you get two top five picks out of the portal? Absolutely. So what's the likelihood of you getting two top five picks out of the portal? Hey, Unc, it's some young bulls out there that can play some ball now. Now, the chance of getting two top five picks, I don't know. But you can get some very, very good quality players, especially quarterbacks. I don't think we're going to see another Travis Hunter for a while. We can see another receiver. We can see another
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Starting point is 00:20:50 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal
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Starting point is 00:23:32 to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. I just think the thing is, look, I mean, to openly root for somebody to not have success, and I get it. You know, everybody, because they expect black people to be
Starting point is 00:24:17 humble. Be glad you're coaching. Be glad you got this. Be humble. They always expect us, but, you know, why? Why I gotta be humble? It ain't bragging if i do what i say i can't right right right i mean and the thing is because a lot of times because he was so great i mean to be a professional football player and a baseball player simultaneously so well we couldn't root again we i mean we couldn't do and say anything bad about him because he was at the top of his game in one sport
Starting point is 00:24:47 and he was a damn good player in another sport. So now I guess the only thing we can do is just root against his team, root against his players. And look, sometimes I expect sometimes of other people to do that. I just didn't expect that. But I should expect it because where it's coming from. From some of the people that it's coming from, I I should expect it because where it's coming from. From some of the people that it's coming from,
Starting point is 00:25:08 I expect nothing less. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely because they've always done it. They've always done it. Most of the time, for one, we're not even afforded opportunities to be at,
Starting point is 00:25:17 be in positions of power like that, to be leaders of men, especially young men at that. So you already know what it comes with, especially when you have a coach that's not afraid to say what he needs to say. walks a certain way he talks a certain way
Starting point is 00:25:28 and he doesn't abide by the guidelines of what it's like to be a head coach yeah he doesn't he will he marches by the beat of his own drum and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way yeah it does it does uh no i don't root for the cowboys but But I said, after Jerry Jones did what he did in 2016, yeah, if they don't win another game, I don't openly root for them. Because I like some of the players. I like Michael. I like Diggs. I like some of the players.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I don't have a problem with that. But after Jerry Jones and after the way he's been, oh, yeah. Wait, what happened in 2016? Everybody knows what happened in 2016. We don't have to go back and do it again. But everybody knows. Hold on. Everybody going to stand? 2016. We don't have to go back and do it again. Everybody knows. Hold on. Everybody going to stand? That one? Yeah, all that.
Starting point is 00:26:10 He's done enough over the last couple years. So, like I said, I don't, if they don't win any games, as long as he's in charge, somebody else gets in charge. Hey, let's go Cowboys because when the Cowboys win, everybody wins. All the networks win.
Starting point is 00:26:26 The podcast, we talk about what we talk about. We win. But as long as he's at the helm, nah. I'm good. Yeah, but y'all know who it is. Y'all know the guy that, oh, he's a false prophet and he's not gonna win and you can't do this for
Starting point is 00:26:43 the poor. No, we don't. What we don't do this for the portal no we don't we don't what we don't do is that we don't give people we don't talk about we don't give call people names on our platform okay hey can you give me a hint give me a hint yeah i'll take it but i think everybody in the chat knows who it is because he openly goes out of his way and it seems like and the reason why a lot of these podcasts don't have success like a lot of the other because they're lazy, because they don't want to do anything but talk about what you and I do or what a coach isn't doing or what somebody else is doing. They can't create any other. They can't create any other content other than talk about what somebody else is doing. You're lazy.
Starting point is 00:27:19 That's why you get 5000 views. That's why you have 780 people that watch your show at a time because you're lazy. Huh? I got a question. And whoever you talk about, they be talking about us, though? We ain't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:34 No, they won't be talking about you. They talk about me. But because the people don't... Who talk about you, huh? But the people, what they fail to realize, yes, there are some people that, hey, that's in your boat, that they don't particularly care about me or the success that I'm starting to have. And so, yeah, they're going to watch you.
Starting point is 00:27:51 But there is a reason. There is a reason that because you're so lazy and you can't talk about things, all you can talk about is what people are doing or not doing. Your podcast create create content and so tell me tell me who it is so i can go out no no no why would we lend why would we lend them our audience nah see listen it's not about lending sometime you got to set a precedent you got to set a no we don't now if somebody talk about you you got to let a precedent. You got to set a precedent. No, we don't. Now, if somebody talk about you, you got to let me know. Let me handle your dirty work. No, but see what...
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm the enforcer. Let me tell you how we do it, Ocho. We just let them down the vine. Just let them down the vine. And hit him with an uppercut for you. No, no, no. That's the thing, Ocho. Leave them where they are.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And then eventually, people like, bro, that's all you talk about is Shannon, what he's doing and what he's wearing. And he said this and he should have done that. When are you going to create original content? Okay, okay. All these games. Do you know how many games will get played on a Saturday?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Do you know how many NFL games? How many basketball games? Do you know how many things are going on that doesn't involve Shannon? But seemingly four or five times a week, all you talk about is Shannon. What Shannon said on ESPN. What Shannon did. Bro, damn!
Starting point is 00:29:16 Now, I don't mind it because when sponsors and advertisers, they see the impressions. Right. And they see the views. They're like, oh, good luck, good luck, because you mean to tell me somebody's going to continuously talk about you and bring your name up?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Y'all thought y'all did. Oh, look at, oh, look at all. Do y'all realize that Total Wines, how many cases of Shea Bottle of Portier Total Wines are purchased? I need y'all to go make some more videos. I need y'all to go make some more videos yeah i need y'all to go make some more videos because total why i love it that's what y'all don't get y'all have made me way more popular
Starting point is 00:29:53 than i probably would have been had y'all not done what you've done yeah yeah yeah make me popular too make me popular because it's nightcap yeah i want to be famous i want to be famous too yeah that's the thing ocho but we're not lazy because ash and i spend so much time and we run stuff by your producer okay it's ocho okay talking about this we spend an enormous amount of time trying to create original content yeah we get stuff that we think people want to talk about on the internet when it comes to dating or somebody did something to somebody car. But for the most part, most I would say 90 percent of our content is original. No, we're not. Yeah, we're not playing the game, but we're talking about games.
Starting point is 00:30:35 We're talking about things that we think people want to talk about. Occasionally we have a dating thing in here or this or that. And sometimes we have to talk about what a player said or what a player has done off the field. But for the most part, we're talking about sports and we're talking about culture. We're talking about entertainment and a lot of other things, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And you know what, you know what, and this is no disrespect to all the podcasts that out there. I love all of them. I love all of them. I'm not going to name them all, but everybody has, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:03 great content. Everybody's different, but there is no podcast like ours. We talk sports. We talk culture. We talk some of the things that are going on in the world, but when it comes to the motherfucking stories. When it comes to the stories and the experiences that we've both been through, some of yours are from the past. Some of mine, I'm living them now.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And some of mine that I lived back in the day, nothing touches that. It's so real. It's so authentic. And the funny thing about it is the people that are watching our show, they hear some of the stories like, God damn, I can relate to that. I mean, they going through the same stuff we went through. Ocho. Yes. You know people.
Starting point is 00:31:39 We get the same. Yes. But people, Ocho, when I tell a story, people actually think I'm lying. Man, I'm trying to get credit, bro. You think I want to tell somebody somebody pulled a gun on me or kicked the door off the engine to get credit? Bro, I'm 56. My credit days are over. My credit days are over, Ocho. I can't get no credit. You ain't grow up like that. Why would somebody tell a story, Ocho, about no
Starting point is 00:32:07 having no indoor plumbing? Why would somebody have to tell that they had to go outside to use the bathroom until they were 20 years of age if that wasn't true? But all I got to say is this. Anybody that thinks any story that I'm telling, I'll
Starting point is 00:32:24 match it. Put up a million dollars and I'll go get the players that were involved. All you got to do, anybody that says a line about anything that I've said. Now, the lady with the lobster story, I couldn't remember her name, and I couldn't find her. But the story about the dude pulling the gun, the guy kicking the door off the hinges. Yeah, yeah. Me growing up, how I grew up, and eating. and find her. But the story about the dude pulling the gun, the guy kicking the door off the hinges. Me growing up how I grew up and eating. All you got to do
Starting point is 00:32:49 is put up the money. Money talk. Bull jive walk. Yeah. I don't know. People be telling me my stories be fake and be false. Everything I say is real. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out if Steve and I get $ million dollars a year how much
Starting point is 00:33:06 money is coming out of your pocket that's Disney that's ESPN y'all should be rooting for a brother man to get that kind of money because think about it that gives everybody an opportunity because that's the measuring stick I don't get I want him to get it
Starting point is 00:33:23 because you know who's coming in the door after. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm going to be right behind you. I'm going to be right behind you. Yeah. So that's the thing. I mean, look, like I said, I've known Prime for a long time. He is what he is.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I mean, we joke. Like, I don't bother him as much now because he got a lot more on his plate. I bother him a little bit when he's at Jackson State. I bother his ass a lot more when he was coaching his sons in high school. But I just want us to win because the money is out there. The money is out there. And just because Nightcap gets something, that doesn't mean something got taken away from you.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Right. Because Club Shea Shea gets a sponsor, that doesn't mean something got taken away from you. Right. Because Club Shay Shay gets a sponsor. Okay. Y'all make it seem like the financials, you got the pets, you got cars, you got hotels. So if a sponsor does something with me, what? You mean to tell me you can't go to another one a credit card or a cellular service I'm confused I look at somebody like okay
Starting point is 00:34:30 I got a team see if they be interested if they're not interested guess what all them cell providers all those cars I look at it ain't that hard though Joe it's not that hard but I look at hey it ain't that hard Ocho it's not that hard but
Starting point is 00:34:47 like I said we try to be original that's what we try to do and I think what sets us apart is that we can tell stories and the way I can tell a story I have I've always been the guys when I was in Denver used to call me the storyteller because I have a great memory
Starting point is 00:35:05 and I can remember things damn near verbatim how they happened. But, lie about what? Because you know what has happened, Ocho? People have lied and been deceitful so much that the truth is shocking.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Ain't no way that can be true because what you see on the internet, what you see on social media, what people have done to constantly try to deceive people and pull the wool. But at this point, at 56, what you see is what you get.
Starting point is 00:35:35 A big old black 56-year-old country mofo. That's it. That's it. I'm not going to change. I'm not. It's too late in the game to change now because this has served me, my family,
Starting point is 00:35:52 my friends, nightcap, club, anything that I've been associated with, the Broncos, the Ravens, it served us well. We're going to be all right, Ocho. We got some things. Oh, yeah. Shadur Sanders signed a Texas We're going to be all right, Ocho. We got some baby. Oh, yeah. Hey.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Shador Sanders signed a Texas Tech fans tortilla at the Colorado Wilds Road Victory. Ash is telling me, Ocho, that's their thing. Like Mississippi State has cowbells. Cowbells. Certain schools have certain
Starting point is 00:36:22 traditions. I guess Texas Tech is throwing tortillas on the field. So I guess on Saturday you better be already stocked up on your tortillas or you're not eating. What do they put in tortillas?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Quesadillas? What do they put in tortillas? Tacos. Okay. Meat. Oh yeah, burrito, burrito, yeah So if you hadn't stocked up, cause all these college fans They going and they buying them They buying them all up so they can throw them on the field I guess it's kind of like, what is that
Starting point is 00:36:54 Detroit Red Wings Where they throw fish on the ice Yeah, or Somebody throw octopus too Yes, yes, yes And so, but Shador signed one of them. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Hey, we'll get copyrighted for this all we ask. You heard me? You saw Travis Hunter put a tortilla in his pants before the snap of the... Before the snap? Yeah. Yeah, guys, we got to be. So we don't. And people sometimes they've asked why we don't really show a whole lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Ocho is that we got to we got a copyright. And so we got about another one. We got two copyrights. So for the next 90 days. OK, we got two copyrights so for the next 90 days okay we got 55 days we've already done 35 of them and so and what happens guys if you use somebody else and i guess with what happened was this is what happened ocho and i don't even i've never shared this with you is that you remember that we showed the clip of trap of cam being on the field at ucf yeah and he was talking to trap he was talking to travis and he's talking to
Starting point is 00:38:11 okay ash got the footage uh from the internet from uh twitter right we didn't know whose it was i mean it had already been tweeted blah blah blah blah, blah. All of a sudden, all over. It was everywhere. It was everywhere. Well, the guy that footage that it was. Right. He put a thing in YouTube. YouTube flagged us. So in the part. So they took they took it down.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Not only did they take it down. The money that we would have that we would have made. He got it. Oh, hell no. No, check this out. So now what we did, you know, we cut it. We had a breakout clip. Right. It was the same clip, but he said we had posted it again.
Starting point is 00:38:58 So they took that one down, gave us a second copyright infringement, and gave him the monetization from that clip. Oh, so he took our money? He took all, he took it all. That's, that's fine. I ain't got a problem with that. But the problem is, is the two strikes. We get a third strike. They take nightcap down. So we got no channel. So that's why we've been extra careful. And then, been extra careful and then then what happened is that we reached out and tried to have a conversation okay okay he wanted to come on nightcap spend at least five to ten minutes talking
Starting point is 00:39:36 he wanted us to promote we he wanted us to do a segment about that video every single breakout clip with him every single week. In other words, to make a long story short, I'm not going to get too far into it. He wanted us to leave the video up permanently. So to make a long story short, he wanted us to build his YouTube channel. That wasn't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Hold on. Hey, man, we got to put our shiesties on, man. He took our money, man. Bro, don, we got to put our shiesties on, man. He took our money, man. Bro, don't worry. Ocho, we get that money back. I know. I don't like the way he's moving, though.
Starting point is 00:40:13 It is what it is. It is what it is. Had we known, well, we don't. Ocho, do you know how much money that I lost from that Cat Williams clip? Probably, if I had a lot like Joe Rogan, you can't use Joe Rogan clips. Had I just set it up, say you can't use my clips, I probably, it's that we've had like 150 million views just on my YouTube channel. We probably would have done 500,
Starting point is 00:40:50 600 million views and what I've made, you'd probably triple it. But I said, you know what, hey. Hold on. Don't even worry about it. We're going to get that back. Yeah, for sure. That was a... Hey, because right now get that back. Yeah, for sure. But that was a...
Starting point is 00:41:07 Because right now, the cuff runner is over. For sure. For sure. I'm not going to preach, but the cuff runner is over. But my thing was, bro, I said, bro, we don't have no problem bringing you on. But you're not going to tell us how long we got to have you on for. You're not going to tell us we have to leave your video for perpetuity. You're not going to tell us we've got to promote your channel. That ain't
Starting point is 00:41:29 happening. And he wanted us on all the channels, Shay Shay Media channels, to follow him. And he wanted me to follow him personally. What? Hey, what's his name? Send me his information. But guess what? Hey, can I ask you a question he worked for colorado for the bus no because i'm i'm going to the game next weekend
Starting point is 00:41:53 but the thing is ocho it's it's all good i look okay we're gonna stay out of harm's way for the next 55 days we're gonna get we're gonna we're going to, we're going to, nah, nah, hell nah. We're going to, we're going to get, we're going to get those, those two things removed and we're going to be, because what happens is that it slows the viewership. Now we're not as,
Starting point is 00:42:13 the algorithm doesn't recommend us like it was then. That's why if you notice, if you notice our subscribers have slowed. Hold on. You know what I can do now? You know, I got the connection.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I know the people at YouTube. I know the CEO. So if you need me to make a call, let me know. No, we good. No, we're going to play it by the book. The right way? Okay, let me know.
Starting point is 00:42:37 We're going to wait out. We've been great for 35 days. We got 55 more days. So 55 more days. So by like the 20th of December, we're going to be straight. But it's a valuable lesson. I'm Ash moving forward,
Starting point is 00:42:52 team moving forward. Reach out. Ask. Because a lot of times like they'll reach out. Like House of Highlights and people, they'll reach out. Can we use this? Can I use that? Huh?
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah, we didn't know. We didn't know. Because we didn't know who it was, what it belonged to. Like, if somebody has something out there, I would like, okay, sure. But a lot of people will reach out. Shannon, can we use this clip from Club Shay Shay? Can we use this from Nightcow? Sure, no problem.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah. No problem. But had we known, we would have gone through the steps just like people go through the steps when it comes to Shea Shea, when it comes to Nightcap. Absolutely. But we didn't know. But it's a lesson learned. You live and learn.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Ain't no problem. Yeah. He got the money that we would have made from that episode. Um, and that clip, it's all good. Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 00:43:50 you can't stop progress. Oh, absolutely not. Absolutely. Cause one thing, my God, he got favor now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah, he did. Yeah. Well, he tried to, and I was like, I thought about it. I said,
Starting point is 00:44:02 nah, nah. I said, nah, we're not going to, we've not been negotiating with a terrorist. You've not been the hostage. We all made an honest mistake. Bro, you actually
Starting point is 00:44:11 think we did this on purpose? You think we did this on purpose? It's the world we live in, Uncle. It's the world we live in. Most people, they're opportunistic, especially when they know you made an honest mistake.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's all good. No, I don't want him to get banned. I would not reach out. I would not tell Time to do anything because I want the young brother to make his money. I want him to get his money. And he felt this was the best way for him to try to come up. By all means, do what you need to do, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Damn. Damn damn i'm sorry to hear that man nothing happened hey he he took food off both our tables i ain't i ain't the only one that lost out but everybody i mean everybody you know i'm saying don't you we got a big staff here yeah yeah hell i didn't know until uh uh we had i had a meeting and we got 20 people damn you got 20 20 god when you add up nightcap and uh uh club shea shea 20 and that's not even that's not even talking about shelly just just the people because nightcap is every single day so we got, I mean, as we're talking, Ocho, we probably already got
Starting point is 00:45:27 the clip up with Alabama. We probably already got that posted. So we got people doing graphics. We got two people doing editing. Yes, yes, yes. We got producers and everything. We got people damn near working around the clock to spit out, hey, cut it, and it's going to go out a certain amount of time.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So, yeah, it's a big undertaking. It a certain amount of time right so yeah it's a it's a big undertaking there's a lot of you know people think oh you know you can do this no you not if do you do it right yeah because i wanted to look professionally done i always wanted to be the best i want people to like okay look at the lighting look at xyz look at the graphics and we're always trying to you see we have graphics for every segment we have a ticker which we try to have it we try to be as professional as we possibly can because we believe our viewing and listening audience because they're giving us their eyes and their ears they deserve the absolute best and i'm not going to be standing and try to save money while shortchanging my the fans that listen to club Shea Shea, that listen to
Starting point is 00:46:26 Nightcap. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. So I just want you guys to know that we do everything we possibly can to bring you the best single show every single night. Every night that we're on. Sunday, Saturday,
Starting point is 00:46:41 Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. Club Shea Shea, we pay a lot. Hey, we spend ass tons of money. I mean, just for the sites, when we go on the road, you know, we spent I think for location fees, just
Starting point is 00:46:57 for Club Shea Shea, we spent three quarters of a million dollars. That's not including the camera. I'm just saying for the venue that we go use that's what we spend because we want to make sure it's right we want to make sure it's done right and so we because I believe I believe my fans deserve that I believe people that listen to nightcap if they're going to take time out of their schedule. And that's why I'm so hard on the crew. I say, you got these people staying up midnight,
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Starting point is 00:52:26 to tell y'all we can't show y'all no videos so hopefully hopefully what we'll do we'll like explain it to you and then you can go see it and then you can put two and two together and you can use your imagination of what we're talking about so
Starting point is 00:52:40 hey matter of fact you know what you know what I wasn't playing I'm not I'm sure you know now that you're in the podcast world you know you know Josh Heady I don't no okay very very good friend of mine he created an app I had
Starting point is 00:53:00 a long time ago called Mad Chad right yeah and he is very very very when i say very well connected very well connected when it comes to the world of podcasts uh youtube so when i when i when i said that statement most people in the chat would probably say you know he's joking but i i really have to get away from the middleman to go straight to the top. That's what I said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:28 If they want to do it, post the link in the chat so they can go see it at some point in time. The video, like a video or something. Yeah. So what we're trying to do, we're trying to post a link that you can go watch the video that Ocho and I were talking about so you'll get a better understanding
Starting point is 00:53:46 because it's kind of hard. We say something and we don't have the... Because a lot of times, Ocho, you remember, we used to talk over the video. Right. And so people could actually see what was going on and so we could explain and you had your take on why you thought it was
Starting point is 00:54:02 this or that. I would have my take why I thought it was that or this, but it's kind of hard, but hopefully you guys understand. But bear with us for 55 more days. Can you give us 55 more days? And we'll be right back at it. And I promise you guys, we won't make this mistake again.
Starting point is 00:54:18 But like January, January would be good. No, no, we'll be like we're 35 days in. So we've got 55 more days. So like middle of this, like middle of December. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Okay. Okay. Okay. Cause we got, we got what? 21 more days. Today is the night. The day is the night. So there's 30 days in November, 30 days in November.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And then. Okay. So around damn near damn near Christmas time yeah yeah yeah yeah but we good like I said that'd be a good gift that'd be a good gift for us and then and then
Starting point is 00:54:54 guess what we have all the strikes removed we would have gone through the process hey yes we disputed it but what's there to dispute we had the video up he, yes, we disputed it, but what's there to dispute? We had the video up. Yeah, you're right. We used this thing.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Unknowingly, we did. I mean, we wanted to use it, but we didn't know the channels, you know what I'm saying, who it belonged to, because it had been tweeted, because it was a viral clip. Right, yeah. So we didn't really know who it belonged to.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I bet he didn't do that to nobody else. No, he did. He did. I think it was about 20 people he said, you know, he had a big thing. He was proud of it. Oh, he went and capitalized then. Yeah. He was happy about it.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Thank you, YouTube. That, you know, people, you know, trying to, you know, I'm just honest, you know. Like I said, we spent far too much time. Number 16, Ole Miss, defeated number three, Georgia, 28-10. After taking the opening series, Ole Miss recorded five sacks, nine tackles for losses, four
Starting point is 00:55:57 fumbles and intercepted a Carson Beck pass. Ole Miss fans rushed the fields, carrying the goal post through the streets of Oxford. Dart, who was 13-22 passing for 199 yards with an interception. The Ole Miss Rebels finished with
Starting point is 00:56:13 397 total yards. They did a job on the Mocho. They did a job. They got after Georgia. Georgia problem is their quarterback. I don't know how what they saw in this guy to have this guy. He was the number one their quarterback. Now, I don't know how or what they saw in this guy to have this guy. He was the number one
Starting point is 00:56:28 prospect quarterback. Yeah. Hey, I got a question. With all these 10-2 teams right in the set, you feel like there's a paradigm shift in the conference? Oh, yeah. It's shifting completely well you
Starting point is 00:56:46 well you brought texas in i mean i think the thing is oh joe and now you got 12 teams right because when you only had four it would pretty much be over for a lot of teams but because you have 12 so now you're gonna get eight more teams that had no chance the previous years. Yeah. So I don't know if you get in with three losses, but they're going to be some teams because they're going to be some teams with two losses. They get in. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:14 When I think about when I talk about the paradigm shift, it's been Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia. I mean, consistently year in and year out. Now, man, listen, everything is changing. The landscape of who's probably going to be in a playoff is changing. They still could be there, Ocho. I think what you're looking at, you're talking about the SEC. It's been Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia. And it still could.
Starting point is 00:57:43 But Texas has one loss. A&M has one loss. And these are some teams. I think Texas played. No, the Texas played for the they played in the SEC championship game last year. Right. I wasn't. Oh, this is the first year in SEC.
Starting point is 00:57:58 So, yeah. So I think the thing is, Ocho, is that you're going to have it's going to be tough. I don't think Oklahoma is going to be down forever. Right, right, right. But yeah, it's a situation where the likelihood of you seeing Georgia and Alabama dominate like they once did. Uh-uh, uh-uh. No. But they did a job on them, Ocho. They did a job on the mojo they did a job on them and um
Starting point is 00:58:27 i'm not i'm surprised i'm not surprised based given how cars how poorly carson beck has played because they won some games in which you threw three interceptions and consecutive games and they won those games because they were so much better than the opposing team now you get a team that doesn't turn the ball over as much as you do now you see what happened the talent and just about as even yeah yeah and lane kiffin is a hell of a coach now he has a very unorthodox way and i think he kind of rubbed uh coach saving the wrong way but there's no denying is wrong way, but there's no denying he can coach. There's no denying
Starting point is 00:59:08 he can coach that. And, you know, normally the guys that come up under Saban, they learned something when they were there. More so than, you know, Lane Kiffin was under Coach Saban. Kirby Smart. Jimbo Fisher. There have been a lot of Billy Napier.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I mean, you go back and look, Loxley at Maryland. You go back and look at his tree. Go look at college football and look at Coach Saban's tree. Right. That thing like a giant redwood. He got some coaches on it. Yeah. But Ole Miss, the number 16 Ole old miss defeats number three georgia 28 to 10 and keeps
Starting point is 00:59:49 their sec championship game hopes alive keeps their college football playoffs hopes alive georgia tech upsets number four miami 28 oh jo. Ocho, you can't keep living on a prayer, bro. You're tempting fate. You're tempting fate. Yeah, man. Cam Ward had an unbelievable game throwing the ball, but he got stopped three times on fourth down. The last time he got stopped on fourth down,
Starting point is 01:00:19 and he fumbled the football, and Georgia Tech was able to win. It's going to hurt. Hey, that sack fumble hurt, man, at the end, bro. I honestly believe that they were going to go down and score if it wasn't for that sack fumble. Well, that was four downs, so they wasn't going to go down unless they got a first down. I mean, you know what I mean. They were going to get the first to be able to continue
Starting point is 01:00:45 to drive in the series. I really was hoping and I really felt, you know what, these boys are going to come out. God was going to answer their prayers and they were going to be 10-0. But it's unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Georgia Tech ran the ball 48 times, 271 yards. When you run the ball like that, what do you do? You control the clock. You keep that high-powered Miami passing offense off the field. Cam Ward was sensational again. He was 25-39, 348, three touchdowns, no pick.
Starting point is 01:01:17 They ran the ball 24 times for 86 yards, but they are a throwing football team. They're not a passing team. Cam Ward was the Heisman favorite going into that game. I don't know if he still is coming out of that game. Damn! Did they lose?
Starting point is 01:01:34 They lost, man. They lost. So who, I mean, let's say, okay, they say, I still think Travis Hunter is the best player in college football. I think if they win another, how many more games do they have, Ang? Two or three?
Starting point is 01:01:52 It's got to be more than three. They got three left. They got three games left. If they make the big 12 championship, they have four. Okay. Remember last year, Jayden Daniels won the heisman losing three games and i think that was the most losses for a heisman winner in a very very long time yeah normally they're undefeated one maybe two games but jay daniels won it last year and he deserved to win because he was sensational he was was clearly yeah college football best player i mean look um what did genti do tonight
Starting point is 01:02:30 did he have a big game russia oh um but what do you what do you think oh joe uh Miami. But you can't keep living like that, Ocho. If you think about Ocho, the Cal game, they came back. The Duke game, they came back. There was another game that they came from behind and they won. The Hurricanes got to find a way to be consistent and efficient all four quarters. Yes. No more lapses.
Starting point is 01:03:03 No more starting slow. I'm not sure why they always start slow and always play hero ball towards the end of the game. End of the third, middle of the third, coming out of halftime. They got to hit the ground running from start to finish. Yes. But there's no reason they should have lost to Georgia Tech. Obviously, Georgia Tech did play a good football game today. But teams like, I think when it comes to teams like that, if you want to be the Hurricanes of the old, you come into a game like this and you win convincingly.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You win convincingly. You just have to. If you are who you think you are right now, as far as how far the Hurricanes have come in improving, you know, that that that school in that program yeah um but that's what happens oh joe because see the thing is is that when you play a team and the longer you leave a team in a game in which you're supposed to win the more confidence you give them oh yeah my college coach used to always say say son killing that with a sledgehammer we're better than that team but if you leave them in a game long enough they're going to start turning cartwheels they're going to start feeling good about themselves
Starting point is 01:04:12 and they're going to believe they can beat your ass and so I always kept that in the back of my mind okay yeah I think we should we're better than this team we've won six games they've won no games. And all of a sudden here we are in late in the third quarter.
Starting point is 01:04:28 And we're up 10, seven. Now they believe they, they believe they belong. And now a game that we should have won, you know, we got sloppy. We don't throw a pick or we fumble the ball or whatever the case may be. I had a drop on third down or something. We've allowed a team to stand to a ball game. We should have put away at the first, at the first half. Right. And I think that's what third down or something. We've allowed a team to stay into a ball game. We should have put away at the first half. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And I think that's what happened with Georgia Tech. They keep starting slow, Ocho, and you're giving these teams hope. You're giving these teams, they're like, man, this is the third quarter. And we're right here with the number 14, number 13 in the country. Now you got hell on your hands. And it's kind of like a boxing match, Ocho. in the country. Now you got hell on your hands. And it's kind of like a boxing match, Ocho. Hey, the longer you leave the
Starting point is 01:05:09 underdog in there, it's like, hey, man, we round. Hey, I'm still here. I'm round nine. At that point, you got to punch his chance. Exactly. And that's what Georgia Tech says, hey, here we are in the
Starting point is 01:05:24 fourth quarter. Mm-hmm. We're up. But give the Yellow Jackets credit, Ochoa. I mean, they're tough. I mean, look, you don't see an offense like they run often. There aren't a whole lot of teams run the wishbone or the broken bone, the bear, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah, maybe Army, Navy, Tech to call it. In 2020, oh. Yeah, maybe Army, Navy, Tech, but not a whole lot of teams. A lot of teams used to run it. Everybody used to run it in the Big Eight before it became the Big 12. You had Nebraska and Colorado and Oklahoma and Okie State. Tennessee,
Starting point is 01:06:00 there are a lot of teams running the wishbone, the beer, the whirlybird option. Tennessee called theirs the whirlybird option Tennessee called there's the whirlybird but not only a few teams because you have to be found every single play if you got the fullback get the fullback if you got the pitch man take
Starting point is 01:06:16 the pitch man if you got the quarterback take the quarterback because the one time you don't own your responsibility and he give that ball to the fullback he gonna hit his head on the goalpost. Yeah. And so give Georgia Tech credit. Six and four, four and three in the conference.
Starting point is 01:06:32 91 Miami. Miami was undefeated. Number four Hurricanes lose. They go down to Georgia. Hey, they went down to Georgia looking for a soda steal. They're troubling mind. They drove in the line looking to make a deal. You know Charlie Daniels? They ever drove down to Georgia looking for a soda steal? They're troubling minders. They drove in the line looking to make a deal. You know Charlie Daniels? They ever drove down to Georgia looking for a soda steal?
Starting point is 01:06:48 What you know about Charlie Daniels, man? I know a lot about Charlie Daniels. The Hurricanes, like my coach used to say, man, in high school, man, don't play down to your competition. Don't play down to your competition. You leave them in the game, and this is the
Starting point is 01:07:03 results you get. That's exactly. Quinn Ewers throws five touchdown passes as the number five Texas Longhorns drove the struggling Florida Gators 49-17. Quinn Ewers, 333 passing yards, five touchdowns
Starting point is 01:07:21 and the number five Texas roll over the struggling Florida two days after the third year Gators coach Billy Napier was given a public statement of support from the school's athletic director. I just don't know, Ocho. That's still Florida. That's still the Florida Gators. National champion. They've had national champions. They've had Heisman Trophy winners.
Starting point is 01:07:43 They've won national champions. They've had Heisman Trophy winners. They've won national championships. Yeah. You can't blame the coach. Academics, AD needs to understand. They need to understand in order to compete, you got to have the players. In order to have the players, you got to open up that pocketbook.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Oh, yeah. It's a different time now. The players in Florida aren't staying in Florida anymore. At one point, they was picking between three different schools. You were going to Miami,
Starting point is 01:08:12 you was going to Florida State, you was going to Florida, one or the other. You're not going to be the powerhouse you were or you used to be at what you used to do. You're not going to win like that.
Starting point is 01:08:20 You got to open up your pocketbook. Open up your purse. I don't know who the athletic director is out there in Gainesville, but it's the only way, baby. It's the only. I think, Ocho, the thing is that when you look at it, when you're looking at a Power Five and you're looking at a team in the Big Ten,
Starting point is 01:08:39 you're looking at a team in the Big 12, you're looking at a team in the SEC. Yeah. I can go pro from any of them. Yeah. So now if the end result, I at a team in the SEC. Hell, I can go pro from any of them. So now if the end result, I can end up in my destination, who's going to make sure I'm the coolest when I arrive at that destination?
Starting point is 01:08:53 Meaning, who's going to make sure mama got a nice crib? Who's going to make sure I'm driving a Lambo truck? Who's going to make sure I'm driving a Lambo or a Cullinan? I just need to know who's going to make sure of that before I get there. Because I need to arrive in style.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I can't just... Challengers are nice. Yeah. But I need a little bit more. It's a different ball game. For sure. And I ain't mad at them. Gotta pay to play. Man, they talking about third string, walk-on quarterback.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Tell the Florida fans that. Tell them boosters that. Anybody trying to hit those users? The boosters know. They see the landscape on how everybody else is doing. They're seeing what teams are doing you got the pay to play baby that's it that's who we are now
Starting point is 01:09:52 I ain't mad at them either I am not mad get that money get it because do you see did you see what the ESPN paid for the SEC
Starting point is 01:10:07 rights? Did you see what Fox paid for the Big Ten rights? So y'all want all that money to go to the school where the players don't get nothing. Oh, they got education and educate these pockets. That's what I need.
Starting point is 01:10:26 So, I mean, college kids, kids they got agents they get agents now they got CPAs because you get this NIL money you gotta pay taxes just cause you 70 to 18 Uncle Sam tax your ass too everybody get it he coming to get it oh he want his money and if you don't pay
Starting point is 01:10:42 it now you gonna pay it later sure will cause I I've been man Uncle Sam Oh, he want his money. And if you don't pay it now, you're going to pay it later. Sure will. Because I've been... Man, Uncle Sam audited me, and it costs more for the postage than what he got. But he want his money. Oh, I overpay. They be sending me... Look, they send me money
Starting point is 01:10:58 back. Or I let it roll over. Oh, no. You're not going to get me. Because they're going to let that thing roll. Let it go. Let the interest build up. Hey, double your get me. Because they're going to let that thing roll, let it go, let the interest build up, hit your thing, double your ass up, because they already know, you know what, he can cover this right now. Let's not bother.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Let it go. Let it go, interest. Then, guess what? Once they audit you, they take that thing way back. They go way back. Way back. They go back with you like car seats. Y'all go way, all the way back. They go way back. Way back. They go back with you like coffees. Y'all go way, all the way back. Listen,
Starting point is 01:11:30 you know when you're a high draft pick, you know how far back them scouts go to do their homework on you before they invest that money in you? Oh yeah, they go to high school. That's how far back Uncle Sam goes. Joe will. He want all his money. I never forget
Starting point is 01:11:45 my draft process, talking to Mike Brown, Duke Tobin, sat down and talked with Duke and they told me and they gave me an understanding of the process. Why did they go back and talk to my elementary teachers? Why did they go back and talk to my
Starting point is 01:12:01 teachers in junior high? What does what I did in elementary and junior high have to do with me being at the NFL level where I'm still not the same person I was in elementary and junior high
Starting point is 01:12:10 they went back far they gonna make sure you're not that same person hey the stuff the stuff that I mean
Starting point is 01:12:20 for those of you in the chat I mean you should see the research that teams scouts do before they invest in these players and pay them all that money. They go all the way back. But they should. Elementary, junior high, college. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Ocho, think about it. If you're about to invest $50 million in a property, you're just going to take the last year or you're going to go all the way back. Hell yeah! This team invested millions and millions and millions of dollars. I mean, anytime you invest that kind of money in something,
Starting point is 01:12:58 you want to know exactly what I'm getting. Yeah. I just want to make sure it ain't no funny business, okay? How was I in college? Because I got to make sure it ain't no funny biz okay how was it in college because I got to make sure because money doesn't change it it makes you more about what you already are now I just want people to understand that money
Starting point is 01:13:14 does not change you it makes you more of what you already are so if you acted like a jerk and you acting crazy now sometimes you see guys, it clicks for them. Man, I'm in this position.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I'm in this situation. My mom, dad, grandma, my family straight. Man, I can't mess this up. And sometimes you throw caution to the wind. Ain't nothing gonna happen to me. And you do crazy stuff. And then people like well man i don't know what but when you if you've done your homework
Starting point is 01:13:49 the guy told a story what's the uh oklahoma state blackman went to jacksonville justin black boy he was nice the guy told say you know what? They was thinking about drafting him. Obviously, he was the best receiver. Go down to Oklahoma State, say he spent a week down there. Guess who was in the bar every single day for a week having drinks?
Starting point is 01:14:20 Tell the people at home, Bojo, what happened? He was in the bar every week, huh? Every day for a week. That's not an accident. What's the likelihood? And I go somewhere and I see that person in that bar
Starting point is 01:14:36 every single day for a week. That's not his pattern of behavior. So are we surprised that what transpired for him once he got to the NFL? No, we're not because that's who he was. And now that you think about it,
Starting point is 01:14:53 if you ain't got no money, you know, when you were in college, you ain't really got no money. You're drinking private stock. You're drinking Boone's Farm. You're drinking Big Mouth Mickey's. You're drinking Bull Drive. You get some money. Man, you're getting Belvey. You're getting the good stuff. You drinking bull drive. You get some money. Man, you getting belvy. You getting the good stuff. You can afford the good stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:11 So that's the thing. And I don't have a problem with guys investing. Yes, I'm going to find out as much as I possibly can because I'm about to invest. Right. You can buy a building or you buy a laundromat or you buy something. I need to know you go back as far as you possibly can.
Starting point is 01:15:29 The revenue that it generates. Okay. Has there ever been liens on this property? What's the, okay. When you buy a house, what you do, you have somebody else.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Do you come do some appraisal or do appraisal of the house? They do a walkthrough of the house. Not just you. You have somebody that doesn't have a vested interest in it to go, okay, give me your assessment.
Starting point is 01:15:49 What is the actual value of this property that I'm about to purchase? Because I'm about to invest some money in it. So I don't have a problem with it. Right. The Volume. I don't have a problem with it. Right.
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