Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bama crushes UGA comeback, Travis Hunter Heisman talk, Sanders & Hunter shade Cam Newton

Episode Date: September 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Georgia QB Carson Beck getting picked off in the endzone by Alabama's Zabien Brown in an unbelievable finish to the SEC showdown and praise the resilience of QB Jalen Milroe, HC Kalen DeBoer and the Crimson Tide. Later, Unc thinks Colorado's Travis Hunter should play DB in the NFL, Hunter and Shedeur Sanders shade Cam Newton during pregame and much more!05:10 - UGA-Bama32:49 - Colorado beats UCF(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow, wow, wow. What a game. What a classic. Alabama takes down Georgia. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp. He is your favorite number 85 Liberty City Zone. The rock runner extraordinaire.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, that's what I thought it was. Listen, the game was lopsided the whole first half. I had no idea that they were going to mismanage the clock and allow Georgia to get back into the game. This is the rule of thumb for coaches. Don't take your foot off the gas. You're allowing them to get back in the game.

The game shouldn't even have been that close. Continue to run the same offense you're running. It's hard, Ocho. There was no need to come off the gas. It's a lot easier said than done. We watched this in a Super Bowl. A team be up 28-3 and still try to be aggressive, and it bit them in the butt.

You put Matt Ryan in the shotgun, the guy misses the block, you cost him a fumble. Did you hear what you just said? Key word. You saw a team still try to be aggressive. Alabama tried to be aggressive. They were very vanilla the second half. But they didn't be aggressive.

They won. The other team was aggressive and lost. Now, which would you rather be? The thing is, the way I look at it and what I try to explain to people, Ocho, is like, look, when you have the momentum, how much separation can you put between you and the team that you have the momentum?

Because eventually they're going to get it. They're going to get the momentum. And when they do, how much distance the momentum because eventually they're going to get it they're going to get the momentum yes and when they do how much distance it have you separated yourself enough now alabama because what happened they got conservative your defense they couldn't get off the field on fourth down oh joe uh georgia was one for 13 on third down but they were five for five on fourth down. Yeah. Your defense can't get off the field. Your offense can't stay on the field.

So Georgia's keeping you on the field 10, 12 plays. Alabama's going three and out. So you're bringing that tired defense right back on the field. What do you think is going to happen? And so the next thing you know, now you're out of rhythm. The other team is in rhythm, and now you're out of rhythm. The other team is in rhythm. And now you're holding on for dear life. So I get it. It's a lot.

I'm telling you, having been in both situations, Ocho, I believe it's easier to play from behind than it is with a lead. Because you can throw caution to the wind. Ocho, we already down 27. So what the hell I got to lose? Let it rip. Let it rip. And you know what's funny? Why couldn't Georgia play the way they did in the second half

when you're throwing caution to the wind and start off the game like that? Start off the game like that. But I think, listen, if you were to write this story again or write how you would want this game to go, there was no better ending than the one they had tonight. This has to be the best collegiate game of the year. And I'm not sure there's another game that will top it this year based on what we saw tonight.

What we saw tonight was unbelievable. Yeah, you got two heavyweights. I thought the game was over. I left. I stopped watching the game and went and had a cigar break. I went and took a cigar break. I come back in and had a cigar break. I wouldn't have took a cigar break. I come back in, and Georgia got the lead. I'm like, wait a minute.

What happened? Well. I got to rewind my TV back and let it run forward to catch back up. Alabama DBs and any defensive back. Yeah. Bro, stop celebrating when you're back. If you can make a pick, make the pick. That's the difference between

the good corners and the great corners. Ed Reed was a safety, but he came down with the ball. Ryan came down with the ball. Ron Woodson, Charles Woodson. It's not good enough. No, no, no, no. I'm trying to take these possessions,

the defensive possessions, and turn them into points. So that's the Alabama. You know, oh, you stra no, no. I'm trying to take these possessions, the defensive possessions, and turn them into points. So that's the Alabama. You know, oh, you strapping them down, but you do realize they got two more downs to try to get a first down or maybe a touchdown. So while you're celebrating, and you should, hey, you're happy. But, bro, if you can get your hands on the ball, bro,

you got to come down with it like the DB did in the last play of the game. That was a big time play. A freshman at that. I like that he played to a strength too. I'm wondering if it was the defensive coordinator's choice to have him play off on that so he can get his head

so he can get his head around and on the ball as opposed to being impressed and be playing from trail and then having to turn around and look and losing the ball. That's one of the reasons why he got that pick. But another thing I want to say about DBs is 95% of DBs play not to get beat.

And there's a small percentage, about 5% of them, that play to make a play. And that small percentage, that 5% are those that always turn out to be great. Always turn out to be great. That's the biggest difference between a college DB and an

NFL DB, is the ability to track the football. You know after a certain age, if you notice, watch the really great NFL DBs. Watch how soon they'll jam, turn. They'll start looking, too.

Head back. Head back right away. The ball's got to be coming up. You're too far down the field for the ball not to be coming. Yeah. And so that's one of the differences. And the skill set. It is a skill.

I can't teach you that. You're born with that. That is innate. Ed Reed's ability to find the football. Yeah. Prime. Ability to find the football. Rod Woodson.

Charles Woodson. Any of these great corners. Trayvon Diggs. That is God-given. Trayvon is a goddamn ball hog. That's God-given. I can't teach you that old joke. It is.

And people don't understand that. And I made the comparison today. If you watch Travis Hunter, his ball skills are comparable to an Ed Reed because you think about it. He's made like two or three of those interceptions. He's like, he's playing off and he watches the corner

and he's diving and laying out. You watch him undercut that ball at Colorado State. Bro, everybody can do that. That's pure instinct. To be able to come off that and know it's coming? Yes.

That's pure instinct. You know who he reminds me of? Who's that? Another player that has pure instinct and superior ball skills that doesn't get the credit they deserve. Who's that? That guy's name is Asante Samuel.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy's name is Asante Samuel. Oh, yeah, for sure. And Revis is another one who doesn't get the credit. We know he's in the Hall of Fame. We understand how great he is. We understand what he did that 2009 season

and locking up all-time greats. But his ball skills, Unc, his ball skill, his technique, his patience, he'll ride you, and once you get past 10 yards, man, that head come around so goddamn fast. Yes. You'd be able to locate that ball and that's where half his interceptions came from. Yeah. But see, the thing is with him,

like, those other guys, you could tell they were offensive guys because when they got, hey, they ain't trying to knock it down. Henry was trying to pick it and go to the house. Every time. If you look at those guys, that's why you see them guys,

seven, eight, nine, ten, returns for touchdowns because they're trying to take defense and automatically turn it into offense. And that is a God gift. I can't teach you that. Son, I can't teach you how to find the ball. I just can't. I can't teach you to like, no, okay, here, this is a two-by-one.

They're going to try to overlap this. I got to play two-by-one. Yes, I got the inside. I got to make sure the inside because I got the outside guy. I got two-by-one because I got to worry about the seam also, Ocho. But I got to go around. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know what y'all trying to do.

I got this two-by-one. I'm going to overlap you. I'm going to make you think I ain't got this seam, but I'm going to pick it when you throw it. Yeah. So it is an unbelievable game tonight uh alabama jaylen mill roll was sensational again 27 to 33 374 two touchdowns he had an interception the tight end has to understand on the pick on the pick he needs to widen because jaylen mill row can see what he can't if he'd have let him he he wouldn't have finished the rest of the game

because that linebacker would have decapitated the mocho. And so that's what you have to do. You have to widen the guy, widen him, so Jalen Milrow can fit in. That's why he put it on his back shoulder because if he'd have let him. Yeah. Oh, you'd have been out for sure listen it's very smart of Mero's part to know that

sometimes a quarterback can save you every time a quarterback that's what he's doing can save you every time that's the thing the one that can save you because anytime you get a collision it's the quarterback's fault because he can see what you can't.

I'm trusting you that you're not going to lead me to harm. I'm trusting you. I'm going to do everything I can. Either I'm going to catch it or I'm going to break it up. All I ask you is not have the ambulance come on the field to get me. So you're absolutely right. But the tight end, he needs to understand. But he's young.

You talk about something that I've over years, Ocho, to know, to widen. And sometimes you got to get, you know, you got to get hit in your head to understand that it hurts. Widen the guy. Give Jalen Milrow some room to protect you from the inside guy. But he went in there hard. Jalen Milrow tried to back shoulder him. He popped it up. And in the process, he was about to catch it,

but the DB hit him. And now, hey, that's safety for Georgia 17? Yeah. He could play. I think it's 16 or 17. Which one was it? Because he got a pick. He could play. No, he could play. He's going to play on Sundays. Oh, yeah. Most definitely.

He's got that capability. You don't see a whole lot of his. He got skills. This is the funny thing about it. When you talk about going to the next level, this is the closest you're going to get to an NFL game. Because all the talent that are on the scene, if you can stand out on film in a game like this, when in Georgia,

Alabama, where it's a bunch of four-star, five-star players, and you're standing out on film, like the safety you just called out? Yeah. Boy, you're so special. Yeah. Listen, that young boy that receiver that's only 17 years old? Yeah.

That Ryan Williams? Ryan Williams. Man, listen, man. Ryan Williams, I know you're going to see this. Listen, I know you ain't old enough to drink. I know you ain't old enough to party. But when you see this, boy, I need you to send me a DM. I need a jersey.

Sign. I need a jersey signed. If I don't get a jersey signed in less than 24 hours, if you don't send me a DM in less than 24 hours, you ain't getting none of that NIL money. Matter of fact, hold on. I know we're talking about Alabama, Georgia, right? I got a message for two more players. Hold on.

So they know I mean business. Hold on. Because they think I mean business. Hold hold on but there was a big time game there's a lot of big time talent on the field there's a this this game was littered with four and five star recruits you look at the offense and defensive line you look at the skill position you look at the linebackers this is a i mean there's a reason why georgia and alabama now uh nationally year in and year out in the top five in recruiting because when you play the brand of football and they see all those guys going to the nfl from the university of georgia from the university of alabama uh same thing with ohio state and some of those big 10 teams hey hey i want to be like that hey i want

to be like amari cooper i want to be like uh uh uh, I want to be like Amari Cooper. I want to be like Jerry Judy and all these other guys that went from Alabama. Who is it? Calvin Ridley. And so I look at Georgia, and you see all those defensive players. N'Kobe Dean. They had Walker, and they had Jalen, the big D tackle. They got two of them. Jordan Davis.

What's his name? Oh, man. Huh? No, I know N'Kobe Dean, but Jalen, number 98 for the Philadelphia Eagles. They got two of them, Jordan Davis and the, what's Jalen's last name? Carter. Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter.

So when you see that pipeline, it's easy because the players recruit. Coach, you don't have to do a whole nother... Y'all saw my resume. Y'all see we got 60 guys in the NFL. We got 58 guys in the NFL. Hey, you see how much money Tua signed for? You see

how much this guy signed for? You see how much this guy signed for? Yeah, absolutely. So it's a lot easier to recruit when you have those guys doing that. Go ahead, don't you? What you got at the NIA? So just letting the boys know, I'm not even playing. I got three people. Three people.

Everybody in the chat, make sure they get this message. I know they're going to see this video. Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith, and Travis Honnell. I want a jersey. I want a jersey signed in less than you got 24 hours to send me a DM, get me a jersey down to Miami. If I don't have my jersey before Monday, before 8 o'clock Monday, ain't nobody getting no NIL money.

And you know what that means. You see it. Listen. I didn't got this on for nothing. Ain't none of y'all getting no NIL money no more. The rest of the season. Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith, and Travis Hunt. I want my jersey.

FedEx. Monday morning. You know how to get my address. Ask your coaches. That's it. And I ain't even playing it was uh georgia had 25 first down alabama had 21 third down efficiency efficiency georgia was 3 of 15 on third down alabama was 3 of 11 on fourth down georgia was 5 of 5 alab Alabama was one for two. Georgia had 519 yards of total offense.

Alabama had 547 of total offense. Completion was 27 of 50 for Georgia, 27 of 33 for Alabama. Russian yards, Alabama had 173. Georgia had 80. Penalties, Alabama had 10

for 90. Georgia had four for 35. I did think that that was a passing appearance right before the half on Georgia. I think the officials, sometimes they get caught up in the game like, oh, it's 30, it's 30 to 7, it don't mean anything. But you got to call it. That is P.I., and you're standing right there. And DeBeer, he had every right to be

hysterical because that was pi and you don't know that could have come back to bottom because you could have got the way they were rolling i feel they're going to probably get you know three maybe even seven out of that push it to a 33 to 7 maybe even a 37 7 ball game but uh give give georgia credit uh they didn't run they could have easily like folded shot but give Kirby Smart and his staff an unbelievable job for getting those guys to come out of the locker room and play extremely well Carson Beck did not

have his best game first half was horrible well he threw a pick and had a fumble in the second half too that was the reason why they got behind. Remember, wasn't they behind like 28-0 at one point? Yeah.

Yeah. So, look, they're not going to see very many teams that can match them physically. Not like that. Not like that. Alabama. Alabama is physical. Georgia is physical. The offensive line, they're loaded with five-star on both lines.

They're loaded with five-star. It's four and five-star. The skill position players, very well coached. We know what Kirby is. He was the D.C. for Alabama a lot of those years when they won national championships. He learned a lot under Coach Saban. I like Alabama's hired to be.

He's sensational. He's a very good coach, very good offensive line, and the guys played really well offensively i just thought they got a little bit too conservative mojo and when you get conservative yeah now you put your defense in a bind because a team takes them out there and they drag them out there 10 12 15 plays your offense comes on the field they go three and out or maybe they get one first. Put your tired defense right back on the field. They drag them out there again, another 10, 12-play drive.

Your offense comes back in. It goes three and out. Now, Ocho, now you're asking for trouble. Yeah. You're asking for trouble. But give Alabama credit. They came out ready to fight tonight, and they would take down the number two Georgia Bulldogs.

If you think about it, nobody since 2021 has beaten Georgia other than Alabama. They're 44-0 against every other team. But they'll be back. They will. They're going to meet each other again, huh? Probably the SEC championship. Oh, other again probably the SEC championship oh yeah probably the SEC championship

but that was a ball game that was an unbelievable ball game Xavier Brown picks off Carson Beck in the end zone he has a fourth turnover night I'm Michael Kasson founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company

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Hey, his wife is having a baby. You know what? Obviously, you know what? If his wife is an Alabama fan, she probably told him to go to the game. Oh, yeah. Knowing how much they love, they tied. I guarantee you she told him to go to the game. But hold on. You remember

the criticism that we caught when an NFL player said he would choose to play? You remember how all the women came at us? Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. He ain't even playing in the game. This is the thing you have to understand too. It all depends on the woman you're dealing with. It all depends on the woman

that's having the child. Some women depending on how much they understand how much you love that game yeah they're like baby boy if you don't get out there and make that goddamn money they paying you millions of dollars for a reason yeah all right now you get out there do what you got to do and you come on home what's the name of the movie with um with marie chestnut when um uh old girl was in the hospital and he went out there and played and he came and seen after oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well he's a football player yeah i know what you're talking about depending on who you're married to not the situation in the movie might have been a little different but still depending on who you're

married to or depending on who you're having a child from there's a there's an understanding this is the way we eat. This is the way you provide for us. He came out better, Ocho said, baby. I was trying to get to the hospital but the car broke down. You can't be on national TV with a sign about wife having a baby.

If you saw the guys in Georgia, they're Georgia Bulldogs fans. Obviously, the storm came through. Thoughts and prayers goes out to everyone. There were some fatalities. So, our thoughts and prayers from nightcap through goes out to those impacted family, friends, and loved ones that have been impacted by this storm

up the East Coast, up into the Carolinas. But he took a route. He took a route floating, a rubber, and to go get his friend who was reined in.

So he's like, nah, we ain't missing that game. We going to Tuscaloosa. So he took his little rubber boat and he went and got his man. And unfortunately it didn't work out the way they wanted to, but that was a very good game. And fans are fanatic like that, Ocho.

I mean, look, if you're in the south, if you're up north, you have no idea what we're talking about. But if you're in the south, Texas, and you come all the way back, all the southern states, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, I mean, obviously, you know, Georgia and Florida, we have a bit more population texas football is life yeah oh yeah football is life they close down friday's night you're going to the game and if you haven't okay no everybody's closing up shop

and they're going to the game and you know the funny thing about it is obviously you have a better, not knowledge of the game, of college football, maybe a better experience. You got to think I went to Oregon State way back in 2001. So I don't know what it's like to be at a PWI of that magnitude, like an Alabama LSU. Yeah.

But when my daughter, before she chose where she was going to go to school, before she went to Kentucky, I went to LSU. LSU game, huh? I ain't never seen nothing like that. Oh, yes. I went to LSU game. I played in the league 11, 12 goddamn years.

I've never seen nothing like that at our level. Yeah, but you have to understand, Ocho, them kids. So they going to face paint. They going to be yelling and screaming. Hey, man, look here. When Georgia playing, you see all them Jokers got them flags in the back, the Bulldog flags flying. They ain't never been in one of them games. They crazy out there, huh?

What? Well, hold on. They crazy like that LSU game? Yes. Like that? Yes. Well, I went to that Tennessee, where I seen Tennessee play, huh?

My baby went on a visit to Tennessee. Man, they played that goddamn Rocky Top. Man, that's the... Boy, them boy, boy. but it wasn't that thing rocking you hear me go down wait a minute this is college the nfl atmosphere ain't even like this drive down to 95 when they played when they play florida i don't know florida might not be that florida's not that good now when they play when georgia florida play in the world largest office cocktail party yeah and you see all them flags heading down 95 yeah or when they come up and they play when Georgia, Florida play in the world largest cocktail party. Yeah. And you see all them flags heading down 95.

Yeah. Or when they come up and they play the SEC championship and you see Georgia, they coming up from Tuscaloosa and Birmingham. Man, Ochoa, man. I got to experience that. I got to experience that. That one little game, that one little game, I had a chance to see LSU play obviously Jaden Daniels was there at the time

and I saw Tennessee play Tennessee was playing they were playing Kentucky if I'm not mistaken boy I still got that Rocky Top song still locked in my head but you got to understand a tradition like that

NFL they ain't like that that's no no no no i mean nfl they ain't like they ain't like that right because them college kids them college kids oh they're gonna be out there especially when you go to a big school like that right because you got to get out there to get the tickets so they're gonna be hey they're gonna be out there damn near all day all night trying to get those tickets especially for the big game can you imagine what those students were doing to get those georgia tickets right or to get the auburn tickets the big game. Can you imagine what those students were doing to get those Georgia tickets? Right. Or to get the Auburn tickets?

Now, you talk about Alabama-Auburn, or you talk about Ohio State-Michigan. Right. Now, come on. That's crazy, huh? What? Hey, I got a question. There's nothing like Southern football. I get the Green Bay- the i get the green bay

chicago uh rivalry in the nfl i get duke north carolina but when you talk about alabama auburn when you talk about georgia florida when you talk about florida state florida or florida state miami or one of those those ain't ain't nothing nothing south carolina clemson you have to experience it to understand what i'm talking about it's like when i tell people about going ain't nothing, nothing. South Carolina Clemson, you have to experience it to understand what I'm talking about. It's like when I tell people about going to an HBCU and homecoming week, you have to be on

that campus to experience the pageantry, the pageantry, the atmosphere. Oh, Joe. They do it. They're in the yard. They're up in the atmosphere. Oh, Joe. Oh, they do it. Yeah. Oh, they're in the yard. Oh, hey, them Sun Ra's in the France. They up in the yard. The student center is buzzing because everybody know it.

Listen, you remember, I told you, obviously, I didn't have the opportunity that most people that went to HBCUs have. My first experience, obviously, listen, I've been supporting FAMU since goddamn 1984, but never was integrated in the atmosphere to know what the HBCU experience was like, because I go to the game, I listen to the band, and I watch football team play, and then I go home. When my daughter crossed over at PV, A&M,

and I walked in there and seen that atmosphere of all the different squarities, all the different fraternities. I never, ever, ever seen nothing like that. Right. Man, when them AKs came out, when they came out stepping. I want to be an AK.

I'm going to tell you the reason why I was like, oh, and dog. You got it. I can't even tell you the reason why I was like old and dumb I can't even put in the words because it's like that anytime Georgia plays any time a southern team, South Carolina Clemson, Florida any of the tech

just imagine Texas Oklahoma, the Red River rivalry it's like that it's like that every Sunday, every Saturday Texas, Oklahoma, the Red River rivalry. Yeah. It's like that every Sunday, every Saturday in the SEC country. Is it still the same if the teams aren't playing well? Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter. If Florida's not playing well.

My season is complete if I beat you. I don't care. I just got to win one game. It's against you. Oklahoma, Texas, as long as I beat you. Alabama, Auburn, as long as I beat you alabama auburn long as i beat you georgia florida long as i beat you it doesn't matter ohio state michigan i'm putting all my eggs in this basket i can go over i can go one for ten as long as that team against you as long as that one against your punk ass that's all i care that's all i care about man but yeah i mean they out there man

look I grew up in the south obviously you know lived in Georgia damn to my whole life Ocho they start they start skewing the games at 1 o'clock 12 o'clock 1 o'clock man they out there got them grills they skewing them when the bagels

back oh yes yes they drunk at 1030. And the game, they tore another two hours. Oh, yeah. They already tore up. I like it. So, go to Grambling Southern.

Like they have them. Hey, fam, you bethune. Man. Man. Everybody got to experience that at least once oh joe yo the colorado buffaloes beat ucf 48 21 excuse me the buffaloes were 14 point underdogs improved the four four and one two and on the big 12 travis hunter caught a touchdown pass intercepted a pass in the same game for the second time in the last three weeks.

It's the fourth time in his three-year college career that he's done that. He struck the Heisman pose after he picked off K.J. Jefferson with a diving interception in the third quarter. He's transferred from Arkansas, right? K.J. Jefferson. Wasn't he at Arkansas the last couple years? Ocho, speaking of,

now it's time for Money Moves presented by DraftKings. Travis Hunter has... See what we're doing? We got to grab it. We're moving on up. Hey, we're moving on up like the Jefferson. Travis Hunter now has the third-best Heisman odds.

Jalen Milrow from Alabama plus 225 is number one. Cam Ward, Miami plus 500. Number two, Travis Hunter plus 750. Number three, Dylan Gabriel, Oregon plus 1200. He's fourth.

Statistically, Hunter has put up elite numbers at receiver. He entered the weekend ranked fourth nationally in receptions, sixth in receiving yards, tied for fourth in TD catches with five. He caught nine passes today, 89 yards, and a touchdown, and grabbed one of the best cover corners in the game. Colorado came from behind with a win over Baylor last week. Hunter had the game-winning fourth fumble on the goal line.

Hunter played 128 snaps on Saturday. According to Fox broadcast, he's averaging about 130 snaps per game. Listen, when we talk about heisting, right, there's so many different factors that go into it. But what Travis Hunter is doing, it needs to be taken into account. This is something special. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball and affect the game on both sides of the ball.

The fact that Travis Hunter is able to do both, it speaks volumes. This is no disrespect to Cam Ward. This is no disrespect to Jay Lemon and Roe and what they're doing. Quarterbacks, most of the time, they always win the award based on what they're doing. Yeah. Always. But what Travis Hunter is doing this year, it needs to be taken a little bit more serious.

A little bit more serious. I don't think people really understand, especially those that are voting. I don't know who did the goddamn odds. Who did the goddamn odds? Travis Hunter should be first, no matter what. Based on what he's done so far, this season already, he should be first.

He's affecting both sides of the ball. It's not unheard of. It's been done before, but hasn't been done before like this at this level. The way he's doing it. The intercept. Affecting the game. Winning the game. The fumble.

On the goal line. At receiver. Putting up good numbers. like come on man they keep charles wilson did play offense but he did not play offense he didn't play if they had 70 snaps he wasn't playing 65 of those snaps right he had a package in which he played and he played extremely well we We're not going to minimize Charles Wilson. He did. He became the first defensive player to win the Heisman, but he did not play as many snaps on the

offensive side of the football as Travis Hunter is playing. He's coming out of the game. They're running 75 plays and he's only missing two or three of those plays and he's missing five or six snaps on the defensive side. So basically he's playing all but nine maybe 10 snaps in a game unheard of yes but young young bull condition is out this world

young book listen much respect to travis hundle you know i know you're gonna see this i already gave you a message i have my shite's the own so I know you're going to get this message. If I don't get that DM with that jersey, I'm telling you, Monday, FedEx. I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want no excuses. Any NIL money is coming straight to me. Coming straight to me. Period. Colorado look good today, huh?

This was the most complete game that I've seen them play maybe since Prime has been there. The ability to run the football, the way they protect it should do it. Should do it through the football. Look, they got some, I mean, late in the ballgame,

UCF ran the football, got some plays, but I thought they did a great job of containing him early on in the ballgame, doing enough to disrupt his rhythm. I mean, when I look at him, I don't think they should have ever been concerned about his ability to throw the football he's more dangerous with his legs than he is his arm um but i thought this was the most complete game the way

they dominated this game they got after the quarterback they did a great job of protecting shador shador you had a great job of throwing the football. But I thought this was one of the more complete ballgames, if not the most complete. I'm talking about when you look at running, throwing, stopping to run, getting after the quarterback, defending. I thought this was – and it was on the road. I thought CU played one hell of a ballgame.

Yeah, yeah. They played really well. I'm happy for Prime. I'm happy for Prime. This is one more week. You get to keep them off your back. One more week, you get to keep them off your back. Listen, they 4-1 this year.

They 4-1 so far. A lot of people said they wouldn't even be in this position. What I like for Prime is improvement year to year. The improvement year to year. All they need is a little time. All they need is a little time to get the right people, the right dogs in here, you know, and next year it's going to be

even better. And it's going to be a gradual build. Nothing overnight. A gradual build. And improvement is there. We can see it. Yeah, it had to be, Ocho, for the simple fact that, man, they went 1-12. And y'all expect the man to go in there and go to the damn

Rose Bowl or the damn Peach Bowl his first year in the NFL team went 1-12. Where have they ever done that at? Nowhere. He all hyped. I mean, Coach Saban didn't win no 12 games his first game his first year there hype my it's gonna take time and coach saban had a bunch of four and five star recruits i'm not so sure how many four or five star recruits uh prime had before

he got to colorado right but it's gonna take some time but i was very impressed with the way they played today i mean if you look at ojo they had 14 points in the first quarter. They got 13 in the second quarter. They got another 14 in the third quarter. It was another seven. So they were complete. They didn't take their foot off the gas. They did an unbelievable job today of running the football. I thought they did a better

job of protecting the football. I thought they did a great job of getting after the quarterback, attacking the line of scrimmage, did a good job in pass coverage. There's nothing, you know, look, I'm sure Coach Prime will say, hey, I'm pleased with the win. But I heard Coach Saban said, you know what? He said, to win and play poorly is a kiss of death.

I said, the way it was explained to me, you never accept anything in a win, you wouldn't in a loss. But people don't understand that because you know why? They just, hey, we won the ball game. You can't let your players accept that type of attitude because that'll get you beat. That'll get

you beat. I don't want to wait till I get beat to get your undivided attention. I want to be in a situation where I can get your attention. That way we don't be in this, find ourselves in that situation. Well, I tried to be in a situation where I can get your attention. That way we don't be in this, find ourselves in that situation. Well, I tried to tell y'all this was going to happen.

Now, maybe you'll listen next time. Right. I loved it. I love what coach Saban said. I love the way prime prime said, we can't be, we can't be happy with just winning.

That's not good enough. Yeah. Who they, who they got next on who they got next. Who they got next, huh? Who they got next? Who they play next? They got at Kansas State or at home? They're at home against Kansas State. Kansas State really good. Are they good? They really good. Were they good?

They really good. I want to go to the game. You think I can get a ticket? Yeah, you call Prime. He'll get you one. Oh, I'm going to go to the game. I hope it's cold, too, so I can put on my Dickies. My little Dickie overalls and my hoodie and my Tims.

Yeah. Travis Horner wore a bland T-shirt after Richard Sherman Sherman comments there was a lot of buzz on social media about some of the pregame interaction we got that video do we got what happened what Sherman said about Buddy we got Sherman's okay

okay he said he was saying that his skills are defensively second to none he's a true corner. He has tremendous instincts, great ball skills. But he said that he was bland as a receiver. I get what Sherman's saying, that he's not

a, like Chase and Jefferson, polished receivers. Okay, okay, okay. That's what he's saying. He's an athlete, playing receiver. And because he's so much more athletic than a lot of people that's defending him, he's going to make a play. Okay.

Okay. I understand. So that's not the way he took it. He took offense to it? He took offense. I think Coach, I think time put Sherm and Trav in contact with each other and they were able to have a conversation. Look, he said, as a receiver, I just think he's kind of bland.

Sherm, a former NFL cornerback. Remember, Sherm was a wide receiver. He went to Stanford as a wide receiver. He ended up moving to a defensive back. He said on the Lions' Amon St. Brown podcast, St. Brown, as Sherm, if he thinks hunter can play both wide receiver and cornerback in nfl sherman said hell no you know that right you're talking crazy um but there's been a lot there's been a lot you and i think yes he can play packages but nobody i don't believe

anybody thinks he's gonna play every snap on offense, every snap on defense. Nobody believes that. Do we believe that he can be a defensive back and have a package of plays on offense? Yes. Yes. Because we've seen it before. We've seen prime do it.

Champ Bailey, Charles Wilson. There've been a couple of guys, JJ watt had a couple of packages as a defensive lineman. But to play every snap, so the NFL, to try to play 120 snaps in an NFL game? Well, listen, you have to have the endurance of the Ethiopian runners. Yeah. That's the kind of endurance you're going to have to have.

But when I think about it, I mean, when I think about Travis Hunter and how special he is, even at the receiver's position, I understand what Sherman's talking about in a sense, but I'm also understanding how much work and how much time he has to work on his craft from a receiver standpoint. He's so athletically gifted. Once they sharpen up all the tools, man, it's a wrap.

If he gets drafted, he has to get drafted as a wide receiver anyway because that's where the money is. That's where the money is. I see Travis. I think you'd be better suited. Forget the money, Ocho. Forget the money. Where can I thrive?

Where's my best chance to be the most productive player I could possibly be? I think it's on the other side of the ball. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. He got to play receiver. He got to play receiver. You got to understand the money is on the receiving end.

Now, and then the packages, the packages at the DB, boom, they got to give you like a little bonus for that. Okay. Hold on. What packages? I'm saying when he gets to the NFL, he's going to have small packages like a nickel. He could beat a nickel on third. I bet you he'll play more snaps on defense and offense.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, as his agent, as his agent, he probably ain't going to hire me. But as his agent, I'm telling him, man, buddy, man, listen here, man. Let me tell you something. You want to play receiver. You got receivers making 30 million a year. So by the time it's time for you to get paid, you talk about 45, maybe 50.

As a matter of fact, they got to pay you 50 because you play both sides of the ball. We can integrate that into your contract, you know, and, you know, the fine print. What you talking about? Nah. I just believe. You don't want him on the defense end. They underpaid.

I'm just looking at it from a skill set and where his skills are right now. He's a much better defensive back than he is a wide receiver. I don't agree with you. Okay. I don't agree with you simply for the fact that what he's doing on defense is

instinctive based on watching film and knowing what's coming as opposed to looking at what he can do at receiver. Ocho, Ocho, let me ask you a question. How many comebacks have you seen him run? Huh? How many comebacks have you seen him run? How many comebacks have you seen him run?

Well, I'm... Ocho, what you mean you haven't? That's a wide receiver. And you haven't seen him in two years? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Don't jump down my throat now. I'm just asking. He can probably run comebacks.

Ocho, I said, Ocho, how many comebacks have've seen him. He could probably run comebacks. Ocho. Ocho. I've seen him make plays. Probably. I said, Ocho, how many comebacks have you seen him run? Well, maybe they don't have comebacks in that offense. Ocho, Ocho, come on now. You asked me how many comebacks have I seen him run. Well, they don't have comebacks in that offense, which you want me to say.

I haven't seen them. How many digs? Oh, I haven't seen him run a dig. I've seen him run a dig and come out the back door. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I've seen him run a dig and come out the back door. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I've seen him catch a slant and reverse field and come back out where he ran a slant at.

Ocho, I'm just saying, looking at him, since he's been at Colorado, watch him a little bit at Jackson State because when they came on ESPN, I would pay attention. Right, right. But watching him, I think his skill set or DB is far superior. Far superior because like I said, he's a natural

DB. He just roll out of bed like, hey, I got a boy right here. His back pedal, the way he can back pedal and the way he can transition. Now, you know in order to play receiver these guys will choke you out here if you can't release

oh see I don't know about that part of his game his ladder moving his ladder moving he seems like a long strider though he tall he taller than you think he like 6'3 we can He tall. He taller than you think. He like 6'3". Yeah, we could work on that.

We could work on that. He tall. He taller than you think. We could work on that. He come train with me. Train with me for three months. Man, listen, I get him open in the phone booth. I get him open in the phone booth.

All we got to do is shorten up your gates, shorten up your steps. And once you get out that dead area off the line, then you can open up all you want. I just, like I said, I think he's phenomenal. He's as good an athlete that I've seen with my own eyes. And I've seen some pretty good ones. Like I said, I was in the year, came in the year after time. And so I watched him and I was in the league when Bo was in the league they're two of the greatest athletes you know when you can play a professional sport two baseball and football true i played three but go ahead yeah i'm with you i mean everybody

in the nfl played two sports three sports in high school but to do it professionally right that was me yeah so it So it's unbelievable. Like I said, I just want to see him. I think he's better suited at the end of the day. He's going to, I don't think he has to make a decision.

I think the team's going to help him make that decision. They're going to say, son, we're going to give you some packages on the offensive side of the football. Oh! See, Ocho, you're looking at it from a pure monetary standpoint.cho, you're looking at it

from a pure monetary standpoint. I'm looking at it from the best. Look, for me, a monetary standpoint, tell a wide receiver. But where could I make my bones? What could I be the best at?

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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn.

In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm telling you, man. Now, see, here's the thing. I'll give you an example. Now, if he had Tyreek's feed, I was like, okay, you're right. You don't have to have that kind of speed. That's necessary.

No, but guys that don't have that kind of speed, what can they do? Tell the people at home, for guys that don't have Tyreek's speed and they play wide receiver, what can they do, Ocho? You couldn't touch them in a phone booth. They're technically sound. There's a reason why Steve Largent, when he retired, had all the records. He ran 4-7, but he was a route-running technician. Guys that aren't speed merchants, they can run the route tree

and make every route look the same. The release, the slant, looks just like the quick out. Looks just like the smoke. Looks just like the over. Looks just like the end, the comeback. He's fast, though. He fast.

He 4-3. He 4-3. And if he not 4-3, he will be by the time in draft time. Like, 4-2 is great. That's a great tool to have in your toolbox, but you don't literally

have to be 4-2 to be effective. Look at Justin Jefferson. Look at Jamal Chase. Ocho, you're talking about elite receivers that run routes. You just said

you haven't seen him run the whole tree. Oh, yeah, I'm happy because it's not a part of their offense. I mean, their specific offense. But what I do see him do, I know what he can do when he get that ball in his hands.

Ocho, do you know, Ocho, you know how good these DBs are if you can't consistently release. They will eat you in your chest. Right. Yeah. Any weakness. We're going to work on that. We're going to work on that. I got you. But that's that's what I'm saying. Right.

But I don't know even if his releases will ever be where his DB skills are. Some things he just got just just got God gave him right out the bed. He just he just woke up. God made that angle, that long angular body. Right. Right. Right. he could be fluid he could back because normally you know guys that are corners that are long you know it's hard for them to flip their hips

he can flip his hips yeah natural he can flip his hips and that's what you got to be able to do Ocho because you got to be able to turn and run you got to be able to turn and drive you got to be and come forward. Hey, you know I used to give him hell, boy, back in 87.

What? Huh? Shit. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. And I told you. And Tom said this. Tom said, had I just focused on being a wide receiver, just focused on that, I could have went to the Hall of Fame. And he could have because he had that kind of speed.

You got to realize that time is 4-2. 4-2. It looked like he ain't got that running damn good. No, it didn't. It didn't. But he could fly. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are old enough to like...

I just wish... Like, some things that you needed to see... Like, TV doesn't do it justice. No. You got to see it in person, huh? To watch Barry Sanders in person. To watch Prime. To watch Jerry.

To watch Steph Curry shoot a basketball. To watch LeBron. To watch Jordan. to watch Kobe. Some things can only be seen through the eyes. Yeah. Watch Serena. To hear that ball come off Serena's racket.

I know sometimes it gets drowned out, but to hear it, you're like, oh my, I mean, it sounds like if you're from the South, you know what I'm talking about? When you took the rug out and you hung it over the fence or the clothesline and you took the broom and you boom,

boom. Yeah. Um, yeah, that's what the ball sounds like. Jumping off Serena's racket. Then you got an appreciation. Okay.

Now I see what y'all talking about. To see Reggie at his prime, to see, to, to see that to see the bruce and see the ed reeds and the ray lewis's some things you really literally had to see yeah in the state you need to be in the stadium to really really appreciate yeah i mean i enjoy i mean i enjoy watching it watching him play i mean he he's a phenomenal talent i love watching him play he's a phenomenal talent, I love watching him play we gotta move on to this next there's a lot of buzz on social media

we got another topic we got another topic, there's a lot of buzz on social media about some pre-games interaction between Cam Newton Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter now, okay can you hear yourself? Okay, this is pregame.

What happened? Here, for context, this is what we... Hold on, can you see it? Yeah, I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. It's hard to tell. I mean, look at the mannerism and body language.

It looked like they could be playing, but without audio, it's hard to tell. It is. It is. And there was some interaction earlier. Okay. Yeah. Okay. They're good. They're good. They're good. There were some interactions earlier in the pregame with Shador and Cam.

And Shador didn't seem, here it is right here he wasn't very receptive I'm going to try to give you some context Ocho did he say something wrong? Cam said on his fourth and one podcast let's take a listen to what Cam said and what maybe caused Shador's reaction look my whole thing with Shador is this.

You followed him since he was at Jackson State, correct? Yeah, even when he was in high school. Right? Yeah. What when can he hang, like what performance? Can you hang your hat on? Can you hang your hat on in college? Yeah.

The only thing I have was like that TCU or that Nebraska game his first year. This year? We're talking about TCU and they ended up not being a good team. Yeah. Nebraska last year was so far. It ain't like he beat. That's true. And you can't say, well, you was at Auburn, he was at Colorado.

It was like Auburn with no favorite to win before you got there. Nobody was picking Auburn to win the national championship. For sure. I don't even think they even thought y'all was going to have a winning season before you got there. Yeah? Yeah? It was motherfuckers on our team that didn't even think that we was capable of.

All I'm going to say is this. They don't get it mistaken. They're beaming over there. Be careful with them comparisons. My head. Don't hurt me. OK, so I guess I can see. I can see why she would be a little upset.

Cam said that two days ago. Just just. Oh, no. That was recent. Yes. He said he he said this two days ago, Ocho. Just, just, we, we wanted to. That was recent. Yes, he said, he, he said this two days ago. Yeah. So we wanted to provide context to maybe why, because, you know, first of all, Shador is a pure pocket passer. Yes, sir.

He's not, he's not an athlete like Cam. He can't, he doesn't move like Cam. He's not Kyler Murray. He's not Lamar Jackson. That's not an athlete like Cam. He doesn't move like Cam. He's not Kyler Murray. He's not Lamar Jackson. That's not what he is. But the situations are completely different based on teams and the times and when they played. He can't move like those guys. When he went to the what you call them, those guys were athletes.

He is a pocket. He's a drop back, prototypical pocket passer. That's what he is. So the comparison can't be with Cam because Cam rushed for down to 50-under yards. Lamar rushed for 50-under yards. Kyler rushed for over 1,000 yards. Shador, he might not even rush for 1,000 yards in his career. He might be like Brady.

Right. But I'm also speaking in context, not just to the comparison of the quarterbacks that they are, but also the comparison in the context of the team that they're playing for and playing with at that time. Completely apples and oranges. Completely different. You know, but based on the time that

Shaduri's in right now, he is still one of the best. Despite maybe not having any games to hang his tail on. Even not having them, he's still one of the best. But that's not what they said when he went to TCU and threw for 500 yards. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because remember, TCU had just lost in the national championship game to Georgia.

People thought they were pretty good. Yeah. So he did that. Now they're not any good yeah i mean listen i mean to each it's it's it's it's football it's it's sports everybody's gonna have an opinion um some opinion you're gonna agree with some some opinions not gonna like sometimes rub rub rub people the wrong way sometimes gonna ruffle some feathers now what I would like for the players to have, you know, when it's I call them the OGs, when the OGs

like the Cam Newtons, you know, Heisman winner, you know, you take what they say with a grain of salt, but also respect some of the things they're just saying because they've already done it. They've already done it, but it's such a it's tough because today's

era of kids or I don't want to use the word sensitive, but if you say something, they're going to remember everything you said. If you say something, they're going to remember everything you said and they're going to hang on to it now. They're going to hang on to it. Even the professionals. Because if you try to critique

a player and they don't like what you say, you're hating. But when you say I'm hating, I've given all the players that come after me, I give them their credit. I ain't got no problem. They say, look, Gronk and Gonzaga, whatever. I ain't got no problem.

I got the most out of my ability. People like, well, you don't criticize the black quarterbacks like you criticize. Do y'all realize it? Do y'all realize it do y'all realize i think i want to say this oh joe yeah i ended up leaving fox because i criticized the guy that had seven superbowls but y'all say i don't y'all just heard me i said about joe burrow y'all heard what i said about when I used to beat up Tony Romo. Y'all heard what I said. Aaron Rogers, Brent Favre. Look, I get it. I get it. I get it. I'm black.

But if a black quarterback doesn't play well, y'all can't expect me to go out there and say the man played well when he didn't. Do you? I don't care what the white commentators do you. I don't care what they're what the white commentators do. But I can't because I don't we don't get that luxury. I'm not going to get no thirty seven million dollars deal right at the box.

If I do that too much, they go get my black ass off TV. So I've got to be honest in what I see. I'm not hating on nobody. I understand what they've gone through. to be honest in what I see. I'm not hating on nobody. I appreciate and understand what they've gone through. I remember when Warren Moon had to go to Canada after winning the Rose Bowl. I'm old enough to remember.

I remember Shaq Harris, who's a friend of mine. I know it. I know the history. But guys, when I critique a player, it ain't a jealous bone in my body. Y'all do know my resume. But guys, when I critique a player, it ain't a jealous bone in my body. Y'all do know my resume. Come on, Pastor. What they're doing, it can't erase what Shannon Sharp did at Baltimore and Denver.

So I, but come on, guys. And y'all get upset. Well, you, bro, can y'all honestly think I don't watch the games? I mean, the lady told me today I was trying to say Chelsea Gray, blah, blah, blah. I said, I don't want y'all to look at her for what she did in the Olympics because she's coming out for the injury. But I think they can win. I think it's going to be tough.

Oh, goes to show you Shannon don't watch basketball. They won the championship without Chelsea. No, they didn't. Chelsea Gray played the first two games. She played superb. She got hurt in game three. Now you got to win three because it's the best three out of five. She got

hurt in game three. They won game four in New York or they was going to have to come back to Las Vegas. You see? You see how people just throw that out there? And a lot of people bought it. Yep. I knew he didn't watch the games. Really? Yeah. Y'all know I watch the games.

That's why I can tell you a specific play. What happened? I don't watch the game to see who scores. I could care less. I'm trying to decipher how they scored, why they scored. What was the formation? What was the defense?

What was the coverage, Ocho? What was the front? Based on the front, based on the coverage, that ball shouldn't have been there. That should have been a knockdown. Blah, blah, blah. That's what I'm looking for. That's why I don't watch the sound. Because I don't want them to try to convince me.

No, I know what I'm looking for. I know what I'm looking for. But I'm never going to be jealous because I want the guys to make all the money. Because I remember when I came in, Ocho, when I started making big money hell I'm sure Ozzy and Kelly like well damn they paying that

kind of money now yeah and I look at the guys now these guys now making damn near tight ends making damn near more in one year than I made in a career yeah but that's the evolution of the position and I'm okay with that but I got to be honest guys I got to be that's

the only way I can be and uh if I if I can't when they say well Shannon you can't say this and I've been very fortunate I've never been on a network where they try to sway me I know y'all think they tell me to say bro you think some of the stuff I be saying they tell me to say they'd be they'd probably be like oh oh my God, did he just say that? Yeah, I did. And people get upset, Ocho. Oh, you see how he talk to women? You see how he talk to women?

I don't debate gender. I debate whoever's in that chair. It could be a St. Bernard sitting there. He gonna get it too. Stephen A. Swags, D.O., R.C., Kanae, Andrea,

Monica, it does not matter. Now, you can't ask to be treated equal, but when we come up on a topic that requires us to get a little animated and voices to rise, oh, don't talk. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what we're going to do now. Y'all need to go ahead and skip me that day. Go ahead and pay me for that day

and let me take off. Because I'm going to keep it today. I'm coming. I'm coming. Because y'all know what y'all get when y'all get me. Y'all already know I have a voice. I have a voice that projects. And when have you ever known me

not to be passionate about something that I'm talking about? Name the time. I want y'all to name the time that y'all seen Shannon Sharp in the format that I've been in since 2016

not be passionate about a particular topic. You had no problem when I was passionate about Kaepernick. You had no problem when I was passionate about George Floyd.

You had no problems when I was passionate about the Red So You had no problems when I was passionate about the Red Sox and what they said to the players or what that Seattle player. You had no problems with that. But now, Shannon, can you dial it back just a little bit? Right. Okay. Nah. Don't dial it back.

Don't dial it back. Turn it up. Turn it up. Hey, what did y'all say? Turn it down for what? The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.

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