Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Bears EMBARRASS Eagles + Vikings TRADE J.J. McCarthy to Giants + Cam Ward’s Sister SPEAKS on THREATS From Fans

Episode Date: September 29, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Bears beating the Eagles, Vikings trade JJ McCarthy to Giants and Cam Ward’s sister speaks on fans Download ...PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP 00:00 - Introduction3:00 - Bears beat Eagles 27-734:28 - The Vikings trade J.J. McCarthy to the Giants47:00 - Cam Ward’s Sister Speaks Out on Threats, Hate From Fans01:03:20 - Which NFL Offseason Move Looks the Worst So Far? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:06 I understand the 15-yard penalty, but no part of his body was out of bounds when that guy hit him. That guy had committed to hit him. You better go out earlier. This is not the fourth quarter. This is not overtime. You don't want to take shots like that. And he looked like a different quarterback after he took that shot.
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Starting point is 00:05:55 The only thing I would say to, I don't know why Ben Johnson didn't take those points because he's telling me he has basically a lack of respect for the Eagles office, because not to take those points. Because normally in a situation like that, that early in the ball game, you take the points. He elected not to, and it did not come back to bite him in the butt. But the Eagles look bad. Let's first, let's talk about the Bears. Look, Caleb Williams is an engine.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And I was like, I was concerned because Case Keenham hadn't started and God knows when. Yeah. And for him to come in and to play as well as he played, I think, you know, he has to get a game ball because he did an unbelievable job or throwing the football. Luther Burton, Caleb Rat, Raymond did an unbelievable job that found Loveland tonight. I was very impressed with the Bears' offense and defense they got after the Eagles' ass tonight. Oh, Joe, Joe, what did you like about what you saw from Chicago even though they're a captain, Caleb Williams,
Starting point is 00:06:51 out of the ballgame tonight? You know what for me? The fact, excuse me. Bless you. Excuse me, thank you all, man. I appreciate y'all, man. Screw. Damn.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm sorry. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Listen. What happened on? Hey, that thing you're a boy. Hey, my bad. My bad. Listen, the fact that I was a little worried, Uncle Joe, I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I wouldn't be honest with you. I went to training camp. I was able to watch the Bears practice about, you know, about two days. And I saw how good they looked with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, that quarterback, and that relationship between those two and how well they worked with Ben Johnson's creativity and the mad genius that he is at calling players and Caleb Williams with his skill set. and them, you know, together is why the Bears had such success last year.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So coming to this game, I'm thinking Philly, well, Philly or Jalen Hertz, you know, they're a team that always win. They've already won a Super Bowl. They've been to two. I'm thinking the Eagles were run away with this game. And I'm glad I'm not a gambler man. I'm glad I'm not a gambler man because Case Keenan,
Starting point is 00:07:58 who hadn't started in a very long time, he comes in and has a phenomenal game. And I think he had a phenomenal game simply because of the fact, not only do they have the personnel to succeed with that offense that Ben Johnson runs, but the supporting cast, Unk, I say it all the time. I don't care who the quarterback is.
Starting point is 00:08:16 A quarterback Joe is only as good as a supporting cast. In case Keenan was able to come out and look the way he did because of Lutland, because of Luther Burden and Rome tonight. But they look really good. They did surprise me. And also the points that you spoke of, Unk, about Ben Johnson not taking early. Not only did he not respect the Eagles team,
Starting point is 00:08:39 but he also had a lot of faith in his defense and knowing the end could stop him. And I'm not sure what's wrong with the Eagles, not being able to run the ball. We in week three now. I mean, say Juan, he had 82 yards. They really haven't had success run the ball since the season started.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'm not sure why. And that's leaking over from last year not being able to run the ball. And last year, the problem was, oh, they had offensive line issues. Okay, it's a new year. And they're supposed to be healthier. Or not to cut you off what show.
Starting point is 00:09:09 they're supposed to be healthier on the offensive line than what they were last year. Remember, they moved Jurgis from center to guard because Dickerson is out. Lane Johnson is back healthy. They got my allotted. But for whatever reason, you're right. And the Chicago Bears defensive line kicked their ass. Yeah. Ain't no way around it, Joe.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Ain't nowhere around that. That was a good old-fashioned ass whipping. So the offensive line coach said, hey, they got us. They put foot sitters tonight. Ain't nothing you can do. But go ahead, Joe. What do you want to say? Man, this was a great game, Uncle Ocho, but I thought about it.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I said, damn, we all picked the Eagles. Because, you know, we just felt like since Caleb won't one plan that the Bears didn't have a chance. When knowing that, man, this team, obviously they have power offensively. But defensively, bro, they got it, Arcan Ocho. But I don't think it's, I think it's hard to game playing for a guy like Case Keenum to come in and play the way that he did. He got off to a great start early, completed, you know, a couple passes early, got into a nice rhythm. Yeah, they went for it. They went for it on a fourth down in their first drive, you know, before they scored. I'm serious. I just felt the bear set the tone early, bro. They came out and they was not playing.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Case Keenham, wow. What a performance, bro. Way to show up. I'm talking about when your team needed, and you get a veteran backup, a veteran presence like that. Okay, Ocho, who comes in, he's poised, he's patient back there. He's delivering, bro. He had some, he had some zip on some of them passes he was throwing. Yeah. You can remember that, Ocho, he took the, he took the Minnesota Vikings to the NFC championship game. Remember they lost to the Eagles, and the Eagles went on and won the Super Bowl. So he's had moments parlayed that.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He's never, he's never, you know, he filled in, he was filling in. And when he took that team, the Vikings to the, to the NFC championship game. But for whatever reason, he hadn't been able to parlay that kind of success that he had that one season in Minnesota, anywhere else he's been. He's been a perennial backup. He's a very solid guy. If you need a guy to come in to get your three to five games, he's more than capable of doing that. Is then when you ask him to give you more than that, when there is a level of expectations. They have no expectation.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. Yeah. You're starting. No matter what team you play for, if you're a starter, there's expectations placed on you. Now, the bear's defensive line. they were coming. They were coming tonight and Jalen Hurst didn't have a whole lot of time.
Starting point is 00:11:42 He turned his light on. He got everything up. Now he got his awards up. Hey, hey, y'all got, hey, man, listen, man, I'm so hype, boy. I'm so hype. Hey, my light word, Joe, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:53 I could dim my light, you know, how I want to set it to make sure. You got some mood lights, huh? Yeah, hey, hey. Oh, you see, the stars in the ceiling. Hold on, hold on, huh? Let me, let me tilt the camera up. Oh, he got it right over that, chat.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Damn. You see the stars in the ceiling, Joe? I see it. Yeah, I thought I seen a shooting star come through that one time. Oh, yeah, they shoot. Yeah, damn. Yeah, they shoot, hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So you know what that means? I got to get me, I got to get my right, have Hayley's comic come through mine. Well, hey, Joe, you should, you should do that. You should do that. No, good. Yeah, you know, hey, Joe, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:29 I got shooting stars. So, like, me, me, Sometimes I ain't even got to go on the date. I ain't even got to go outside to see the stars. I can sit here, turn the lights off, you know, see that with my baby and we look up. You look up and you see the star, huh? Yeah, play a little.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You see the heavens above. Yes, sir. It's like you outside, Joe. Huh? Hey, imagination. Imagination can take you a long way, can't you. Hey, hey, hey, technology. Oh, Joe, you weren't here, but I told Joe,
Starting point is 00:12:54 I thought Jaila Hurts looked different once he took that big shot. Hey, why ain't? See, people got mad. People got mad at me because I'm saying you got to make that decision sooner. His foot was in bounds when dude was committed. He was in bounds. Not one part of his body was out of bounds, step foot out of bounds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 He was totally relaxed. Those kind of blows right there, Ocho, that will give you collapsed lungs. That gives you internal bleeding. Yes. Because you're relaxed and dude unloaded. Now, yes, that's a 15-yard penalty. he's probably going to get an unsportsable like conduct. But if I give you a chance, I would say, look, you're going to get a 15-yard penalty,
Starting point is 00:13:35 probably going to cost you a $15,000 fine, but you would knock the opposing team quarterback out of the game. Every team going to take it 100 out of 100 times. Jeline Hurts got, that's not fourth down. That's in the first half. The question I asked the fans that said, oh, it was a penalty, he'd yada, yada, yada. Yeah. Was that one yard that he got extra?
Starting point is 00:13:55 Was it worth that shot? No, absolutely not. No, hey, I got a question, though. I got a question, okay, Ocho, do y'all think, because to me, I thought he was kind of trying to bait him into it. Yeah, he was. He just didn't think dude was going to hit him that damn hard. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Hey, hey, Joe, let me tell you something. Quarterbacks have to stop doing this. And the number one on that list, who took an advantage of the situation about, you know, you can't hit the quarterback and all that, even though the quarterback is a runner, once he leaves that pocket and crosses their line of scrimmage, Pat Mahomes. Yes, sir. My home is one, and they take advantage of, okay,
Starting point is 00:14:31 we know we're not going to hit me. So I'm pretend like I'm going out of bounds and I'm gonna sneak up, sneak up the sideline and get by three, four more yards, you know? Yep, tiptoe that side line and get a couple. Yeah, Jaylon Hurts in a sense. You know they're coming. Get out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Then you know your body relax, you're chilling. Come on, now. That was the bait though, okay, Ocho. He just didn't think, I don't think he thought buddy were gonna hit him that hard, but I think he wanted, the contact just so he can bait him into the penalty. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:01 I don't want that penalty that bad, don't you? Joe. I don't want it. Because you have to understand. I don't get an opportunity because at this point in time, he no longer has the protection of the pocket. Joe, I get to unload on it. I've been waiting.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Do you know how long people go to try to get a shot on a quarterback like that? Very, very long. Very long. And I got, I had the potential. Look, I'm, I'm not trying to, but if I get a clean shot, which was a clean shot, I'm taking it. I'm taking it.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And the question I have to ask you, Philly fans, you ask yourself, was that one yard worth your quarterback taking a shot like that? No. Because he didn't look the same after that shot. And guess what it cost you? You brought Andy Dalton ass in, and what did he do? Politely throw a pick in the end zone. So that's what, so now you change the whole complexion of the ball game.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Your quarterback is out and your backup comes in and take points off the board. That's Ocho home boy. He came in and threw that damn pick. I said, but you know what? Andy Norton. My red rifle? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know what? But you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Hey, I was happy. Hell, I wasn't room for the Eagles no damn way. They in our division. Take an L. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take an L damn there. Y'all leave, Joe. That's how you see it?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah, you want me to keep it 100 with you, don't you? I mean, I like that you keep it in 100, but obviously, game like, you're not even a Chicago Bears fan. You just worried about your Cowboys and the team that's in their division and wanting them to lose because of that. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:16:36 You got it. Hey, Joe, that's not the way to watch football, Joe. Yeah, well, that's how I watch it today. The Eagles possession, five plays, punt, two plays, fumble, I&T after 12 plays, touchdown eight plays, three plays punt, three plays, punt, three plays punt, five plays, I and T, turnover on down and six plays.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Damn. That's their offense. They had a couple bright spots, but the bear's defense was too much. Okay, Ocho. Them boys on a different level, bro. You know, so, and the fact that you got Case Keenham back there delivering the way he was delivering, I thought both the offense and defense played well enough for, I mean, 27 to seven blowout, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah. You wouldn't even know damn game. The Eagles have the worst three and out rate. in the NFL, in the NFL last season. They ranked second to last this year. So they haven't got any better. Yeah. I mean, it seemed like this offense has no imagination, Joe,
Starting point is 00:17:39 Ocho. I'm looking at this. It is so mundane. It is so basic. There's no creativity. That's what they've always been. They've always been that way. Even with a new officer coordinator,
Starting point is 00:17:52 one of the issues. I don't mean, he's already going, so I don't mean to bring up AJ Brown. but some of the things that he talked about, some of the things that were frustrating to him, you know? So you see it now offensively, you know, especially with them not having success that they should be having,
Starting point is 00:18:07 if they had to run a game in the year that they won the Super Bowl. You're not surprised at anybody anymore. Your officer line is healthy. You know, your officer line is healthy. And some of the players that you do run outside of what Jaylen Hurst does extremely well, you know, they don't ask him to do much because what he does well within the scheme of things, it works because they win.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Based on what they ask them to do. Now, a lot of people complain, Uncle Joe. A lot of people complain because they don't like it because watching Jalen Hurst at times is not aesthetically pleasing. Nope. But why he wanted to be aesthetically pleasing when what he does extremely well
Starting point is 00:18:41 it results in one thing, Uncle Joe. God damn wins. Yeah. God damn wins. Again, tonight it didn't look like it should look. You know, he went out, but you're still two and one. You got a long way to go. You got a long way to go.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I don't know, I don't know, Ocho, if you're going to get another. perfect storm like they got that Super Bowl season. Oh, they were nice. The defense was unbelievable. Yeah. Offense, Shaquan was running through people. AJ Devonte and J.
Starting point is 00:19:05 LaHers was playing. I don't see that again unless that defense revert back, unless Sequan can start running, running through people again. And the offensive lines start blocking like they once did. I don't see it again. Yeah, you're going to win some games. Yeah. But you're not winning a championship.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You're not winning a championship again with this office like this. This, this, this offense is just too, too lethargic. It does nothing. No creativity. I mean, basically you run up, it's run out speed out. I'm like, well, damn.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And I'm trying to figure out, and I looked at it earlier, they got, they're down 13 points. They're at the 49 yard line. It's fourth and one. Numb nuts put the ball. Now they backed up further.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It's fourth and five. He goes for it. Tell me the sense that make. I need somebody to make, look, I'm not an analytics guy, but I want to know what the analytics said on fourth and one and what they said on fourth and five.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Because if analytics told you to punt the ball on fourth and one and go for it on fourth and five, you need to fire everybody in the analytics department. Yeah. That's the problem that I have. Seriana spent all this damn time calling somebody a derogatory name because they unloading on what you call him. Bro, let it go.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I don't know what you wanted to do. He threw a flag. Man, hey, when you think about it, is this kind of an onus on Jalen Hertz? You know, because he's not a quarterback who really extend plays like that. You know what I mean? Who's an improviser who can make something out of nothing?
Starting point is 00:20:34 You know what I mean? I think what we're talking about here is them being explosive offensively. But hell, if your quarterback ain't one of those guys, I ain't saying he ain't no great quarterback because I think he is, but he's just not a guy who really extend plays and improvises to where, you know, damn.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Go the ball down the field like a Josh Allen, like a home, like a Caleb Williams. I think the problem is his demeanor. He need to curse somebody out. Man, this some bulljad. This offense that y'all got me running, y'all got people think I suck. No, this offense suck.
Starting point is 00:21:04 That's what he need to do. Right, but that's not him. That's not him. Hey, Jalen Hurts, Uncle Joe, he's one that's going to always say the right things. If there's going to be a conversation that's had, it's going to be one that nobody knows about, and it's going to be had behind closed doors with the right people. He shows no emotion.
Starting point is 00:21:18 He is what I like to call the, hey, what's the word, uncle? The consummate professional? Yeah, I think I said it right. When I think of Jayland Hurston, the way he carries himself when to come to playing the game of football, it reminds me a Larry Fitzgerald. It reminds me a Larry Fitzgerald because everything is done the exact same way in a business style format and it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Now, again, people complain about, you said it, you know, we don't like the offense that the Eagles run. We've heard it countless time and time again, and everybody's rebuttal well, rebuttal back to those who don't like it is, Jaylon Hurst, all he does is win. all he does is win with the style of offense that he do have you know seriani's not going to not going to be called and plays like uh shan mcvay or mike shanahan or had the creativity of a ben jonson you know they just they just don't have that they
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Starting point is 00:24:04 I mean, they get stopped and then on second and 12, they run the ball. Second and 12, you need to get half of that back so you can have third and manageable. Right. You run the ball now is third and 10. I just, I don't get the Eagles offense. I don't, I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I don't get it. Like I said, it is so, there is no creativity. I'm looking at these guys. They got a two by two. One guy's going to run the sail route. Devante Smith is going to run the eight to ten yard out. So what blue high lope?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Really? Boy, that's high school. How about set it up so you, hey, hey, check this out. If the guy playing you man and you see that you got, you got a room in the middle, hey, I'm going to give you the option. I'm going to give you a two-way option. Because now they're sitting on the out ride, Joe, Joe. They know they're running a high low.
Starting point is 00:24:59 They know what's coming. So now, go ahead. I'm confused, Uncle Joe. And with office like this, you have Demaray Smith, even with, you know, the loss of A.J. Brown, you got Mackay Lemon coming in. You got Don Tavian Wicks. You have all these different players.
Starting point is 00:25:17 You know, they have different skill sets. And I'm thinking about for Siriani and for Minion, Mannion, I hate butchering people's name. Officer coordinator, Minion or Manion? Sean Mannion. Sean Mannion. You have all these different skillsets offensively. And for you, it's all about putting the game of football is a chess match.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Uncle Joe. Yes. Yeah. Moving the pieces to the right spot. Hey, putting your pieces, you know, and playing them to their strengths, trying to beat the defensive coordinator, trying to beat that defense and understanding what your players do well. You put it in position to succeed based on their strengths. It's not that hard when you think about it in the grand scheme of things, but obviously in a game,
Starting point is 00:25:54 in game, you know, it's a little different. a little different. Then you have Sequin Barclay, who would just, what, two years removed? Yes. Offers the player of the year. Everybody's in. Offer of the player of the year. Um, 2000. Oh, what? Well, he did have 2000 that year, didn't he? Yeah, he had 2000. Yeah. He said about the last game. Yeah. Um, Joe, he can run the ball like crazy. Inside, outside. You can line him up and receive. He can catch out the backfield. There's so many different things you can do with some of the players that you have on your team. There's no reason that the offense should look the way it does. As stagnant as it is. And even though it's not as
Starting point is 00:26:27 technically pleasing to everybody that's watching the game of football, what they do is a beautiful thing because they do win with a small, simple format that they have. But you got to evolve, Joe. You got, you got, you got to evolve. You can't say, well, we won a Super Bowl with this offense. You look at everybody else evolving.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Look at Kansas City. Kansas City won the first time they won the Super Bowl. They wanted a certain way. They lose Tyreek Hill. They have to win it a whole different way. Now they revamped themselves, say, you know what, we can't ask Patrick Mahomes to win every single game. We need to get a running game. So guess what they did?
Starting point is 00:27:01 They go out and get K-9. You see how everybody else involved except in the Philly? Oh, well, it's, we're going to, no, you're not. You know you're not. And the D is hard for defense to play at this level every single year. Because that's what you need to happen. Your defense need to play at this level. You're not going to get your defense.
Starting point is 00:27:24 to block a kick. You're not going to get them to do what they did against the Rams in the championship game. Right. They're not going to do that every single game, every single year. So while you're having off years offensively, you need your defense to be Herkulean. Well, if they're not Herkulean and this offense is so mundane, guess what you get? You get a nice little record. You go to 10 and 7.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You make the playoffs, and then you go home and be like, man, everybody's disappointed. Why? Why would you be disappointed? How did you think, tell me who's going to win a game with this offense as not has really no big play potential. You commit 10 penalties and you turn the ball over three times. Who are you beating on the road? Hell, as a matter of fact, who are you beating at home? Hey.
Starting point is 00:28:09 When they take the ball away from you and you 10 penalties? You know what? I don't want to overreact. I don't know, Joe. I'm not one that one or overreact. You know, it's week three. You know, thaw all. didn't look the way it should.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But one thing about it, the Eagles are two, they two and one. They two and one right now. So I got, I got one thing for you. Fly, Eagles, fly. That's all I know. To victory, fly. Hey, what's the rest of the words, huh?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Don't start me the line. Hey, listen, guess what? Go ahead, Joe. Go here. I'm saying, the Eagles don't have that championship, run game like they had bro the year they won it like i don't care what nobody says say sequoan he ain't ain't eating up that back field like he used to bro and i think that's i think that hurts jalen hurts because it doesn't open up the passing game bro you know what i mean i i look
Starting point is 00:29:10 without a hell of a run game for what i've seen in the nfl uncle ocho consider the fact that the sea hogs let k-9 go and what he's delivering to kansas city yeah hey man that's a valuable position to me bro i mean Especially, you know, when you got some nice weapons, you know, on the outside and the quarterback who can really make plays, I feel like if Sequin was really running like how he was a couple years ago, I think things will be a little more satisfied. We keep talking about their offense. Their defense is not tenacious like it was, Ocho and Joe,
Starting point is 00:29:42 when they went to the Super Bowl. You know the Eagles defense is the only team in the NFL that doesn't have a single turnover created this year? We're three games. You say it's only three weeks. Yeah, it's only three weeks. Yeah. They got no turnovers.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So guess what? You're not creating short fields for your offense. Right. Remember when they had that great defense and big fans your first got there and they was creating short fields and it was creating turnovers and they was getting big plays? Yeah. They don't do that now. Now my offense has to grind five yards here, three yards there, four yards here.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's hard to consistently go up and down the field where you constantly got to go 10, 12, 15 plays. to get scores. Sometimes, Ocho, I need to go short yard. I need a 20 yard. Go 20 yards to get a touchdown. Instead of constantly have to go in 50 to 80 yards to get touchdown. That's who they are. Speaking of no creativity, pretty sure the Eagles have not changed their signals in years.
Starting point is 00:30:39 They signal by Wix is on the same one they've used for the past four years to do when they didn't catch the ball. If I was in the booth for the Bears, I would tell them to head coach to challenge that. And the Bears did that immediately. challenged it. Damn, man. Jailer Herson's struggled at times on Monday night. Entering tonight, his 14 career
Starting point is 00:31:02 interceptions on Monday night are the most since 2000. The Eagles have lost three of their last four Monday night games. So now he has 15 Monday night interceptions and four of his last five losses. What they're trying to say? He ain't good under the bright lights. Oh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Hey, I'm not even the Eagles fan. I'm not even the Eagles fan. I'm not even Eagles fan underd. joke? Huh? I think the thing is what I look at is go back and look since they sayquine Barclay. Has he looked as good? Has he did he, as he looked when Sequin ran the lights up, ran the air out of the football.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Has he looked like that since they stopped Sequin? No, sir. He has not looked like that. No. Has he looked like he looked in the year they won the Super Bowl since that defense hasn't looked like they looked in that Super Bowl year. You remember how they looked in that Super Bowl year, Cho? I do.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It would nice now. They were nice. Quinyan Mitchell and Cooper DeGine and you had Carter, you had Jordan, you had Zach Braun. I just, I think he's a good quarterback. I think the thing is is that in order for him to get better, he's going to have to be, get a playing off script, and they're going to have to expand the playbook. This is just too simple.
Starting point is 00:32:27 This offense is just, just too simplistic to be to to really really do anything and I don't know why. Either you're playing in 55 million either you trust him or you don't. Got a point. Got a point. That's what I, Chad, I don't know what to say. Either either one or two things, either you trust him because you paying him X amount of dollars or you don't because there ain't no in between, no joke.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I'm paying a guy $55 million and guess what? I don't trust him to throw the ball down the field. You got to go get some creativity on the offensive side. Yeah, yeah. I agree. I think they're a totally different team, though. Case Keenham has more rushing touchdowns than Sequin Barclay. But it's only three games, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Case Keenom was 1111 for 145 yards and two touchdowns against the blitz on Monday night. One shot of the most such completions with 100% accuracy. And the ESPN began tracking past rushers in 2006. And boy, spinning that thing. Hey, he was. They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hand quick. Yeah. Guys did a great job of getting open.
Starting point is 00:33:37 You look, you know, he's the third string quarterback. Yeah. So they did a great job of putting him in a situation, three steps, the balls out of his hands. I thought the guys did a great job, Raymond and a dunsee and all those guys. I thought they did a great job of getting open and getting themselves big targets. There you go. Hey, hey, who the second string quarterback?
Starting point is 00:33:58 You said he was the way they got the concussion that came in for Caleb Williams. Tyler Bagnet, Bagnet. How you said. Damn. Tyler Bignett, Bignett. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Case Kenney showed out today, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm talking about no bigger stage than Monday night, bro. Hey. But you to come up and show up and show out the way he did tonight. I thought he was great. Everybody watching, everybody watching. Oh, my God. Hey. Yeah, well, you put, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Look at Andy Dawton and Andy Daughtonet and been good since the spinels had a hit. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's enough for I'm the Bengals quarterback. You hear me? That's enough of my bangle's quarterback. He got a point, though. He got a point, Ocho. Hey, he took us to multiple playoffs during this team.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You remember they, you remember their bench, Bryce Young for Andy Dawton? How did that work out for him, Ocho? Huh? Yeah. You talk about Maria Rifle quarterback? You mean cap gun? Huh?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Hey, because he took us the multiple playoff, multiple playoff. And A1-1. And when he was in Cincinnati. A-1-1. the playoffs every year and ain't win one and a lot of games were played at home. Hey, Ocho, he got too many years in the league, brother, come in and throw their pick like that, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Thank you. Hey, Joe, you got to understand. Sometime, you know, when you've been sitting on the bench watching from afar and they put you in that game and they expect you to hit that shot or make that free throw, sometimes you miss the joke because you ain't been in that, you ain't been in that atmosphere in a minute. Nah, that's what I don't know. Nah, nah, that's what I do, partner.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know nothing about what you're talking about. That's what I do. Oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, my bad, my bad. I didn't mean to make that comparison. I can't relate.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I ain't mean to make that comparison with you, Joe. I'm my bad, I can't relate. Hey, that's why they call you ISO, huh? Yeah. Hell, you only be, you only let, what you call them throw the ball like that. Who that? Hell, they only let her throw the ball like that.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And you let this guy come off the bench. Hey, hey, but the run game weren't working for. They had them tried to, they try to run a couple times and they got stopped. Yeah, because they didn't know by the damn block. I guess, because you know a lot of times, they're like, hey, man, I sometimes I don't be blocking. I'll be watching Sequan run.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Well, it ain't no more watching Sequan run. Y'all better put a hat on the hat and move some people. Yeah. It's bad. It's gotten bad. It doesn't. It doesn't. I don't know what the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Look, I don't know, Ocho. Yeah. This offense is, this offense leads a lot to be desired. And if the defense can't give them turn over and create short fields, it's going to be a long year for the Eagles. Hey, that's their problem. I mean, think, the bears really should, the bears really should be undefeated.
Starting point is 00:36:40 If Swift doesn't fumble that ball at the one yard line, they go in and score it. Think about it. What did they lose, nine nothing? They lost nine to three. Nine to three. And then they dropped, and think about, and, you know, they put, what, they dropped 49,
Starting point is 00:36:58 they gave up 37, come back, give up nine, then they give up seven tonight. That seems, that looks like a defense to me that's getting better and better and better and better. And when you can attack the quarterback like they can attack like they attack the quarterback tonight. But, and I just tweet, I said, hers need to be smarter than that. The question is, was that one yard extra that he got, Ocho? Was it worth that hit you think he took Joe? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:37:26 No. No. That boy, that boy lays some metal on him. Did you see? He did he see. His body, he's body. Ocho, he relaxed. Yeah, you got, you got, you got to fly like that.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He liked to knock his helmet off. Yeah, you got to go out. You got to go out, man. You got to go out. Oh, you got to keep playing fast. You know, go ahead, go ahead and put that blank on. It's not the fourth quarter. It's not a do-a-d-dye situation.
Starting point is 00:37:50 You in the first half and take, I don't advise my quarterbacks to take shots like that. But sometimes emotion will get the, uh, uh, uh, that adrenaline gets to pump it. It's the fourth quarter, Ocho. It's third down. this four dollars i got to get it sometimes you got to throw caution to the win not in the first half of a ball game don't you throw no caution to the way right hey man that man felt like he was on the road oh oh cho they on the road he's looking damn i got to try to make a play i got to
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Starting point is 00:40:05 Wherever you get your podcasts. The Vikings are trading JJ McCarthy to the Giants for a 2027 fifth round pick. McCarthy, who's only 23 years of age. It was the 10th overall pick in 2024. 10 starts, he's 6 and 4, 58% completion, 1632 passing yards, 11 passing touchdowns, 12 interceptions, 4 rushing touchdown with a QBR of a little under 36. John Harbaugh told reporters today that James Winston would remain the team starters even if McCarthy on the roster.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Thoughts on the Vikings giving up on McCarthy? What you mean thoughts on it? What you thought was going to happen, Uncle Joe? I knew it. I thought they were going to trade him earlier, Joe. I thought they were going to release him but trade him earlier. Yeah, we talked about that too. But obviously when the opportunity opened itself,
Starting point is 00:40:56 I mean, listen, the change of scenery might help. It might help. But how did the change the scenery going to help, especially going to the Giants, when you had a scenery, a really good scenery over there in Minnesota. Uncle Joey don't get no better than having one of the best receivers top two
Starting point is 00:41:10 you know top one I mean depending on who you ask one of the best ever play in the game you know on a historical run to this rookie season and jettles and you can't get it done with him you got Amheron Jones in the backfield you got Jordan Addison huh you got Hockinson
Starting point is 00:41:28 Hey what are we talking about but you can't stay healthy Joe Ocho what are you going to do in New York? What are you going to do in New York? It's not like I'm not talking about nobody in New York I'm just saying it's not like they have the same supporting cast over there as opposed to what they have in Minnesota
Starting point is 00:41:47 is a different ballgame. Now if you go to Minnesota and let's say James Winson happens to get hurt. Now you got to raise your level of play exponentially. I can't spell it but I know how to say it and I know in the sent instruction that I'm using it you know in context I'm right. You got to raise your level of play.
Starting point is 00:42:04 If you are slow, with the Vikings, what did you think you're going to be with the Giants? I'm not surprised they traded him. I am surprised
Starting point is 00:42:14 they traded him because they already got another quarterback, young quarterback on the roster that they actually believe in. I guess, Ocho, when you look at it,
Starting point is 00:42:22 you're talking about the guy that was 10th pick in the draft in 24, and we get him for a fifth round pick in 26. That just goes to show you how his value has dropped. It goes to show you
Starting point is 00:42:31 what other people think about him around the league. For a 10th pick in the draft, the 10th number 10 overall pick just three years ago, and this is what he goes for today. Hey, that's the scout's fault. That's the scout's fault. That's the GM's fault.
Starting point is 00:42:48 You watch Michigan, you watch Michigan all season long, Joe. You hear me? They hand the ball off every game 235 times. 235 times, occasional play action. And of course, it's easy to hit those play action passes because they wide up because everybody's sucking up with the run with the play action fake. Yeah. So, you know, that's fool's goal.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You get them fool to everybody. Hey, hey, experience is the best teachers, fellas. J.J. McCarthy's been through a little something, something. You know, maybe he can learn from those experiences and take it to New York, bro, and be a better quarterback. Be a better player. You never know. They got to, you got to give them an opportunity. I feel like for the Giants, I feel like for the Giants, this is pretty safe.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Okay, Ocho. You ain't going to have no riffraff and having to play him right away. You know what I mean? And then guess what? When Jackson Dart do get healthy, you ain't going to have no problem pushing to the side. You know what I mean? Versus if you go out there and get another quarterback who, hell, the fans rally around, it's going to be hard to get rid of him if he come in there and play with.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, but let me ask you question, Joe. What you're going to do with? So next year, what you're going to do? You got two young quarterbacks. You got one 23 on the roster, the other's 23 on the roster. So now what? He's going to sit behind Dart.
Starting point is 00:44:00 What you mean? Now what? He couldn't sit behind the people. Man, Joe, don't start that, Joe. He young, Ocho, he ain't but 23? Jackson Dart, 23. Hey, Joe, you do. I'm saying it's different levels.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Some people are mature a lot faster than others. They may take him a little longer. What? You know how mature I would have been if Jettas was my goddamn receiver? You know how mature I would be? Come on, man. What's you talking about? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:44:27 He just wasn't ready for the moment. He wasn't ready for the moment, Ocho. Ready for? How are you not ready for Jettas? Huh, Joe? Ocho. Hey, I write, I write, Z motion, wide drag, throw the ball to 18 on one. Break.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You could be 18. You get under center. Wherever Jett is lined up, you get him the ball. That's easy. I can do that. It sound easy, Ocho. The man came in. He got hurt his rookie year.
Starting point is 00:45:01 He's still developing. He's still working on his damn confidence. But when he was in there, he was. He didn't look too hot, though, Joe. Yeah, I get that. I'm saying, but you get him a new scenery, a change of scenery. You never know, bro. You never know how guys turn out.
Starting point is 00:45:16 He's going to the Giants, Joe. Yeah. He's going to the giant, Joe. My young bull from LSU, Malik neighbors, he's hurt right now. You know, I think, you know, he got a little shoulder injury. He banged up. He's coming off ACL, you know? You know, you got likely, you know, but you, who do you have to get the ball to, Joe?
Starting point is 00:45:34 I'm talking like that dog. We always got to have that dog. Hey, chat, stay with me real quick. You know, while I talk, man. As a quarterback, you need that guy, that guy I can rely on, that guy I can count on. Huh? If I'm blindfolded, I use this scenario, this analogy all the time. If I'm blind, who could I count on to throw the ball to if I hiked the ball
Starting point is 00:45:53 and I don't have to worry about nothing? And I know he's going to make that catch for me. I know he's going to make that play for me on third down. Oh, Joe. Huh? Joe, I mean, you go into a worse situation, Joe. Let's just say that. Oh, Joe, I get what you saying.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I get what you saying. No, Joe, you don't get it because you still keep talking back to me, Joe. It's only a few teams in the NFL who got that guy who you're talking about here. You act like every team in the NFL got a guy like that. Everybody doesn't want it. They do. Almost every team. What I should have just said, I should have broke it down.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He's just having a number one receiver. I should have broken down like that. My bad, Joe. My bad. They don't have a dominant number one that I can count on. Well, hey, these the cars that he's been dealt, Ocho. Demi, he got to put it. No, no, the cars he was dealt.
Starting point is 00:46:41 He shuffled him. It's over with for that, man, Lee. Look, you can't keep the way and in. You can't keep dwelling on the past. We got to move on, man. It's over with. That girl you dated way back when. Yeah, ain't on need you even talking about her no more.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's over with. Let's keep it. We're moving forward. I know. I know we're moving forward. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you when you're right, Joe.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I'm what you when you're right. I almost said something, too. I just think the thing is, Joe, I think the situation, if he was going somewhere else, but another young quarterback on the roster and teams don't normally like the pair really, because it's going to create something. The same thing happened. I remember when Washington, they took an RG3 and they took a Kirk Cousins later.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And what did ultimately happen? Damn, Kirk Cousin still playing. That was in 2012. Damn. So that 15th season for first cousin. and hell he probably and the guy that he came in that they took with the number two pick
Starting point is 00:47:43 been gone five, six years now. But it started because what happened? RG3 got hurt. First cousins comes in, plays well, and you see what it started.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Hold on. Are you trying to tell me, you're trying to tell me JJ McCarthy going to go over to the Giants and cut up? No, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:48:06 I, I, understand why the Giants did it. Because the Giants did it because they're like, yeah, James is a great story. But realistically, how long is this going to, I mean, kicking four field goals ain't going to win us very many games, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Kicking for a field goal, they're going to win us very many games, Joe. We're not going to play quarterbacks like a Cam Ward that you got two timeouts. You're on the eight yard line and you roll left and throw across your body and you get it picked. They're not going to be very many of quarterbacks that make those kind of blunders. We got up lucky. But I guess for the asking price, you know what, guys, I don't need a toaster.
Starting point is 00:48:52 But if a toaster was valued at $200 and I can get it for 30, I think I'm going to go in to, I think I'm going to get it, Joe. You know what I'm saying? Hey, we all have been to the barbershop and they sell it, you know, they got some stuff out there. Hey, I don't need a perfume. Yeah. But they got a big old ball of creed,
Starting point is 00:49:10 that old $500 dollar tree, then I can pick up off. Joe, hey, that's a criminal gift for somebody. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How many, man, look here, man. Look here. I got this cell phone.
Starting point is 00:49:24 It's only going to be good for about 60 to 90 days. Yeah. And then it go. Oh, let your boy get it. So I think the jobs are looking at like a guy that was a 10th pick in the draft in 24. And here it is 26. And we can get it for a fifth round. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah, yeah. We'll see how I pan out, man. I wish JJ to bed, right? Look, the thing is that he kind of knows John because he played for John's brother, Jim at Michigan. If you look at Keith Mitchell, Keith Mitchell was there in Baltimore. Now he's in with the charges.
Starting point is 00:50:07 You look at, I think mentor. Mentor was with Mike McDonald was with Michigan. And then he came with the DC for the Ravens. I think mentor wasn't mentor. The DC at the charges last year. So now he's there. So look, there might be some parallel. I just hope he can just figure it out.
Starting point is 00:50:30 But it's hard to figure it out when you hurt. Because I promise you, when you hurt, the last thing you damn thinking about is the damn football game. You're thinking about getting that injury, injury better. Go ahead, Joe, Ocho. Yeah. I was just agreeing with you. That's all.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. You're thinking about getting an injury better, but at the same time, I think it does help, man, when you're around coaches who really believe in you. So I think the Giants, obviously they got to have some type of faith in it for them to go out there and trade for him.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So, you know, just to still even have an opportunity, bro, considering what he's been through. Hey, man, the man, he's in a good situation. Hell, it's up to him at this point. He was up to him at last point. I know, maybe he learned from that last point, though. I shall hope so. Yeah, let's see, let's see.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Get him, let's get a man a chance. Man, you see, Joe can't be the bad Joe have, Joe have a roster like 80 people. Man, you know, hey, hey, he just, Hey, hold on, Joe went hit, hey, he ain't matured yet. Yeah, hold on, oh no, hold on. Hey, hey, uncle, he gonna be on Joe roster. He's gonna be 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Hey, give a look, he ain't matured yet. Yeah, okay. Yeah, Joe got to run it back 40 years old. You know, I just, hey, hey, I just need him to mature. He'll get it. He just wasn't in the right spot. Fellas, it ain't nothing else out of the hell.
Starting point is 00:51:47 What the hell y'all want to Johnson do? Who else could they hit winning guy? I mean, I think this was safe. Safe, safe for who? Ocho, you ain't going to, you ain't really going to be pressed to have to plan for real. You know what I mean? Now, if he over-delivered, then, you know, that's something you'll worry about at a later date. But hell, if he don't, hell, you ain't going to have no,
Starting point is 00:52:10 You ain't going to have no problem moving. Oh, he's going to have to play so at some point. So you believe James Winston. So for the next 13 games. No. 14 games. No. That James Winston is going to be the starting quarterback from now until the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I do not. But I think JJ is going to get an opportunity and it's going to be up to him to seize that opportunity. That's what I think. Yeah. Okay. I hope you're right, Joe. I hope you're right. Chantel Ward, sister Titans quarterback, Cam Ward, wrote a message about.
Starting point is 00:52:40 about what the family and she, what she and her family experienced from fans after the game. After games, people come directly into my DMs on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram with threats. Hate, bullying, personal attacks, and disrespect towards me and my family. All over football.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Criticize the game. Criticize the play. Be frustrated with your team. That's sports. I completely understand that. But seeking out a player sister, parents, and other family members to personally attack them
Starting point is 00:53:06 because you're upset of what happened on the football field is something completely different. Cam is a quarterback to y'all. He's entertainment on Sundays. To me, that's my little brother. Somebody I love, protected, and supported and watch work for his entire life.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Look, y'all know. Fans do too much. They do too much. They don't know how to they ain't. Booing. Tell him he sucks. He ain't any good. But I don't get why threatening the family?
Starting point is 00:53:31 What does that do? None, but, hey, you know what? You know how fans are, Uncle Joe? You know how fans are. Regardless of the sport is, hey, it could beat off. It could be tennis. You know, it could be football. It could be basketball.
Starting point is 00:53:43 When an individual, a certain player, especially a quarterback, especially that it's your number one pick, is not playing well. This is what fans do. This is what fans do. This is what they've always done. Fans have always had issues. Fans, family, excuse me, players, family members had always had issues sitting in the stands, being bullied online, saying some of the things.
Starting point is 00:54:04 But you know what? At this point, not nothing to them saying, you should have to take it, but you should be used to it. Yeah. You should be used to it. Sometimes stuff isn't fair. Some things in life isn't fair. This is one of them.
Starting point is 00:54:18 The fact that when you play for organization, when you play for an entity like that, where you're the face of a franchise, we've even drafted that early. This is what you have to deal with, especially when you're not winning. I understand not the threats, though, Ocho. Not the threats.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Because you have to take all friends serious. Ain't no more funny game. I didn't mean that. Because I remember a time once upon a time, You could be in the airport and say something silly. And it was just blown off. It's being funny. Yeah, now you can't.
Starting point is 00:54:46 You can't. Take your ass to the airport now and say you got something in your bag and you see what happened. You're going to jail. You're going to jail. But you know one thing you can't control, Uncle Joe? What people say online? You can't get it. Not successful.
Starting point is 00:54:58 You can't. And there have been many situations, you know, of stuff just like this, bullied online saying what I do, oh, you should die, because based on bad performance. No, many examples of it. Now, for me, especially at the family member, man, block them up. You know what? You know, ignore it.
Starting point is 00:55:15 They just, going to turn it over to the authorities. Because you can't threaten anybody to turn it over. I take all threats serious. Yeah, you know, it's people on here, bro, who are really here just to agitate too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you got to understand that. I don't care what you do. They got to have something to say every time, boy.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Uh-huh. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I think as a family member, Uncle Ocho, it is kind of tough to kind of balance and deal with. As professionals, I think we deal with it probably is as best as we can, meaning trying not to say too much about it, try to ignore it. But hell, we're human. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:55:53 We're human. So we do hear it. Now, we ain't got to acknowledge it, but our family, they only probably going to deal with so much. Think about it, especially in basketball, hell, if you out there playing like crap and the fans on you and you got your mom and your sister and your wife or something in the stands, And it's a fan sitting right next to her going out.
Starting point is 00:56:11 You know what I mean? Yeah, I can understand, bro. That's challenging. That's why I didn't really like family member or friends to really go to opposing stadiums. Because Pat Firemoot was telling the story why he don't really like Cleveland. Like when he scored a touchdown, somebody pulled beer on his mom. Damn. But come on.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah, see? Oh, yeah. They take the fan. I get it. And fan is short for Fanatic. But they take it too far. Yeah. They would do something to somebody else.
Starting point is 00:56:37 They would never want somebody to do to. their family member. You wouldn't want nobody to curse your mom, spit on your mom, fight your mom, dad. Probearing, your sister, your wife, you wouldn't dare take tolerate that. But y'all, but y'all sit here, but this is what really hurts me. They'll tell a fan, oh, I mean, a player, oh, you got to take it. But if somebody did the same thing to them or somebody did the same thing to a family member like them, they wouldn't take it. But the word, what they use, you bring me $30 million, you could do whatever you want to me know you couldn't right not as a part not no no you couldn't absolutely not it's easy for you see the problem what you see it is that you
Starting point is 00:57:17 put yourself in this unrealistic position yeah yeah yeah yeah say for 250 because if you make 50,000 say for 250 you'll let somebody pull beer on your mom you'll let somebody swear at your dad you let somebody do things to your wife you wouldn't and if so I don't even know why you say that you're trying to oh Oh, you gotta have thicker skin. At the end of the day, I don't give a damn how much money you make. How much prestige you have, you're human. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:46 You bleed. You have feelings. You have emotions. And if somebody strike the right nerve on the wrong day, uh-oh. You're gonna snap. I don't know. Then you want to throw your hand. Then you want to claim victim.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Yeah. Oh, you know, they're going to pull that car. No, no, no. You, you, you weren't the victim. You weren't. I deny you the victim. You've been to defend it the whole damn time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:10 You got to be careful, too, Uncle Joe. There's really nothing you could do, especially as fans. They're antagonizing on purpose. They troll on purpose. They try to get you out of character the best way they can. Now, the online stuff, especially with stuff online, it's like, come on there. You know, I'm one that's had to deal with it. You know, the bullying and not really, but, man, you know, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Excuse my language. Yeah, they're going to say little slick comments on Joe. I've always dealt with it. I've always dealt with that. So I enjoy it. It doesn't bother me. Now some people, you know, it's new to them. Cam Ward now in Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Now, it's been a member of having to deal with him not having much success right now early in his career. And they're having to deal with the backlash of it. They haven't to deal with the backlady. Now, it might be new to them, you know, so it's hard for me to say, well, listen, this is what come with the territory when I dealt with the past 25, 30 years. Yeah. It's a little different for me.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I tell you what, if somebody pouring beer on Paul, on Paulie, you'd have been upset. Well, you got to think about Hurricane Paula could throw hands. So they're going to get to see hell of hands. You put some bill, you put some bill, my mama. And you mess up. But that's the thing. People, people would do things to other people's family members. They wouldn't want done to their own. No, no, no. They talk reckless. Me, look, I might be in the barbershop. You know how I did it in the barbershop. Oh, yeah. We curse it up a storm. But if a kid or a lady come in, ain't no more cursing for me. Absolutely. I just got, I just got too much respect for the kid because I don't want him to hear that type of language.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I would hope somebody have that level of respect for my kids. And I damn sure ain't cousin in front somebody, somebody girl, their mom and their wife or whatever. That's just the way I operate. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. And it's foolish and naive of me.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah. To think because I proceed, I do things this way that everybody else would do things this way also. Yeah. That's just the way I am. So for me, I've never, look, yeah, I'm a boo and say, but I would never be. disrespectful to somebody's mom somebody's wife somebody girlfriend hey that's hey those are those fans bro they get to the game okay oh show they get scully drunk
Starting point is 01:00:15 and next thing you know they're doing some a-a but you can knock their soberness you can knock their drunkenness out there as real quick when you yeah you don't want you don't want to do that Joe you got to be careful now you got to be careful the minute the minute a family member the minute a family member does something to a fan who's responsible when it's it's time to suit. They're gonna try to get you. Hold on, Ocho, hold on. But you, you and right.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Now, if a fan is up there doing something to your mother, your grandma, your mother, like, come on, yeah, I don't give a damn right. They ain't got a suit big enough to get you off there. Damn the consequences that come with it. You hear me? You say, damn, and I joke? Man, what?
Starting point is 01:00:55 What? Yeah, but jump on there like a chicken on the June book. Man, listen. My grandma or my mama. Listen, I don't play like that. I don't bother people kids. I don't bother people family. I might bother you.
Starting point is 01:01:11 But hey, I ain't bothered nobody's family. I ain't bothered nobody kids. I ain't bothered nobody's wife or girlfriend. I'm not calling anybody. I might be mad at somebody. I'm not calling somebody wife or girlfriend out of their name. No matter what her past is,
Starting point is 01:01:25 I don't care if he was in the corn industry. That ain't got nothing to do with me. You like her, I love her. I'm not gonna disrespect some because, look, that's somebody's wife, that somebody's girlfriend. Guys, quick, you know, we used to be, I don't know, it still might be,
Starting point is 01:01:40 petty like that. Right, right, right, right. Oh, they always talk about your pay, yeah, Patrick Pay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, break it up on, I remember when, I, okay, fine. But it's everybody, Uncle Joe. Hey, I'm glad.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Hey, you taught her, but, hey, I get this perfection now. Hey, boy, well, you're, she laid out a mean demonstration on me. Hello, hello. Man I'll be from the chandelier, drop down from the sea, bloop. Hey, hello. Hello.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Hello. Hey. Yeah, what die on? I ask no questions. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You're on that day with a few miles on it already. Yeah, I have no question.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Anytime they do some, Joe, hey, they do. I don't say where you learned that from. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, hey, I'm good joke. Now listen, sometimes, you know, ain't nothing wrong with a car, you know, with a few miles on it that you know, you know, you know, it's gonna get you from point A to point B. Now, what you don't want it, you don't want a limit.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Huh? You don't want nothing that everybody than got down. Oh, yeah, yeah. You understand what I'm saying? You want something that's, that's, that's, I don't mind a car. I just ain't go buy no rental. You know what I'm saying? You go to the rental car, boy, because I don't have,
Starting point is 01:02:49 I'm slam it up. I'm going to a hundred, slam it on break. I'm going on over everything. I'm going to return this with Ian. Yeah, yeah. Now, if you get you a nice demo, hey, you know, somebody drive that thing less than 5,000 miles a year, five thousand miles a year.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Now, you start putting 20, 30,000 miles on the car a year, and you turn it back in, they got 100,000. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, wait, hey, well, on. Rear and out of line and everything, you know, the rear and out of line. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Hey, I want a little lining in the head, in the ceiling, Joe. Well, hold on, on, even if, you know, if the car got, you know, four, 500,000 miles, you know, you could refurbish, get your new engine. What? Yeah, they think, they can do that, yeah, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Huh? A little rest-o-mide? Yeah, yeah, Joe, you can refurbish that thing up. Make it look brand new. Yeah, what? Even if you didn't throw a few rides in there, you didn't through a few rides, you can get them rides fixing there, too? Yeah, I think so. You know, technology is that van, Joe.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Hey, how you're feeling like it brand new, Joe? They could do that now. Oh, no. Technology doesn't got way different. Boy, you can ride in the backseat of a car with nobody driving. I just can't trust it. I can't trust it. I just can't trust it.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I just can't trust it. I like it, Joe. So that's my thing. Everybody, so I've always been respectful. What's that's it? Hey, what's wrong with you, bro? Man, that's been so wrong with it. Joe, for real, though.
Starting point is 01:04:20 For real. Yeah. Hey, you're like I said, you know, hey, you want a few, yeah, you want a few miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little something. Yeah, cause he.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Hey, don't come to me with a quarter million miles on the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you don't want that thing with zero mileage neither now. Oh, yeah, yeah, you don't know nothing. You ain't going to better get rid of if she ain't got zero miles. You're going to be able to get rid of. Hey, hold on, not only get, you got zero mile, but you don't know what you're doing either, huh? Yeah, I'm not here to teach.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I need you to come here already self-taught. Anjo, I ain't got that kind of patience. I ain't got that kind of patience. I know exactly what you mean. I'm here knowing what you're doing. I would hate to have to sit here with you and watch YouTube tutorials. Oh, man. And you, you mean it's like a, it's like a coach.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Like then, I want you to already be a hell of a player. I don't want to have to do too much damn coaching, man. Something, something. But the basics, the fundamental. Oh, Cho, I might, there might be some nuances to the shake or the bang that I can teach you. But I need you to understand. I need that outside foot back. And I need that when that foot here, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:05:31 You need to already be able to come to me knowing certain things. I'm just saying. I'm with you. I'm with you, what? Hey, I'm with you. Yeah. What? Yeah, you got to know something already.
Starting point is 01:05:49 That's just me, Chad. That's just be. Yeah. Hey, check this out. Check this out for the schedule next week. Next week, we got the Jags bingles. We got Rams Eagles. We got Pat's Bills.
Starting point is 01:06:00 We got Broncos Niners. We got Cowboy Texans. somehow we get the prime time games we got brown steelers lions panthers falcons i get it i get it the the uh the falcon saints is the 20th anniversary of katrina yes remember when steve gleason blocked that punt and everybody went crazy on that monday night it seemed like the dome erupted but come on now you mean to tell me we couldn't get jags bingles rams eagles pads bill bruncos niders we couldn't get not one one of them, just one, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I didn't say we had to take all three of, but we couldn't get one of them. Wait, who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Got to be the Saints and Falcons. Brown Steelers, Lions Panthers,
Starting point is 01:06:44 and Falcon Saints. Hold on. Now, this is one that I do like, Uncle Joe. Brown Steelers. A good old, good old AFC North Battle. Huh? Is Sean Watson coming off a two-game win streak?
Starting point is 01:06:55 I like that. Would you rather see, would you rather see Jags Bengals or you rather see Brown Steelers? Well, you know what? Hypothicator. Yeah, I would love that. Yeah, I know what. I would love to see my bangles and my Jags.
Starting point is 01:07:07 You feel me? But that's not happening. What about the 49th? What about the 49th of Broncos? Well, y'all going to lose that anyway. I don't know. See, there you go. Damn.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Y'all going to lose that because y'all don't know too much of my eyes. Uncle, it's a thing called karma, right? What's the karma? You was on that high horse last night. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Doing all that talking. Yeah. For a game, y'all barely won.
Starting point is 01:07:29 You got a point. Barely won. You squires by. Look, look, look, check him out, Ocho. Look, watch you go get the helmet. Why should you go get the helmet? Why'd you go get the helmet? Oh, man, come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Oh, now you got a chill day. Yeah. Oh, hey, so, so is this? Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Hey, you got to find the good in the prime time games that they give us now. You got to find the good in it. For one, I'm excited. Hey, we'll make it work.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I want to see Deshaun play. I know we like the bangles and the Jags. That would be nice. The Broncos are the 49ers. That'd be nice. But it's only weak four. They got the squeeze in their games at some point. At some point, so why not give it to us early in the season?
Starting point is 01:08:17 So on the back half or in the middle of the season, we get the good ones on prime time. Okay. Okay. You feel me? All right. We'll take it. But I know that AFC class going to be nice, huh? We.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Hey, Deshawn will be out there. Here we go. Blue 80 Blue 80 Check check check check check check Mike 51 Mike 51 51, Mike 51 Alert alert alert alert alert alert
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