Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Belichick to UNC, Shedeur's NFL future, Hunter best player in CFB

Episode Date: December 15, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top college football moments of the week. Top stories include the University of North Carolina football team hires NFL coaching veteran Bill Belichick as their head coach, Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders tells Las Vegas Raiders Head Coach Antonio Pierce to draft his sons, Shedeur and Shilo, Unc and Ocho debate if Colorado Buffaloes 2-way player Travis Hunter is the best player in college football and much more!03:00 - Bill Belichick is headed to UNC08:44 - Oregon vs. Penn State16:30 - Georgia vs. Texas27:00 - What will the Sanders boys draft look like?33:56 - Travis Hunter the best college football player?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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winning coach Bill Belichick was named the new head coach of North Carolina. UNC officials said the size agreed on a five-year deal pending approval from the Board of Trustees, which has held an emergency meeting Thursday. Bill, 72, worked in the NFL capacity since 1975 until the divorce, January 11th of 2023, after 24 seasons with the Patriots.

This will be Bill's first college coaching job. His dad, I think, coached North Carolina from 53 to 55. He's very fond of his dad. He loves his dad. He adores his dad. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, he named his son after his dad. Yeah. So with that being said, I told you, Ocho, my sources, he was very upset that him being as credentialed as he is,

all these head coaches in Vegas came available and he didn't get one. He didn't get one, Ocho. I'm happy for Bill. Let me say that. I'm happy for Bill. But the chemistry, the aura, and the energy that we have inside the NFL has been so dope. Being able to work with Bill, being able to see him break down film

and break down schemes and some of the things that go on in the football games and being able to listen to him and see how he sees the game from his perspective and his viewpoints. So goddamn dope, man. It was so dope. It was so dope. And I'm not sure how soon this starts or when he has to leave or whatnot, but I'm assuming if he just signed, he signed in five years,

I'm assuming he's leaving right away. So I'm not sure if he's going to. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, so that means he's not going to be on next week's show. The portal is about to go on. Damn, man. But I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him. I don't know.

Damn. I am too. I mean, look. Hey, and, you know, it's reported that he's going to make $10 million a year, five-year, $50 million deal. I mean, it's not like he needs the money. Coach Belichick was the highest-paid coach

because he had both duties, so Coach Belichick was probably making estimates north of $15 million a year for the better part of a decade. And he ain't spending nothing. If you look at the way he dressed, he ain't spending no money on clothes. All he's doing is cutting up Patriots gear. So I'm happy for him as you are with Joe.

I believe that people should do his passion is coaching. I'm sure he's disappointed that he would have liked to have got one of those NFL jobs last year, and maybe he's hearing around and wouldn't guarantee that it was looking very promising for him this year. This might be a step to go to college, rebuild that

program, get them back to what we're used to seeing from the North Carolina Tar Heels, getting them back to the plan. Yeah, I mean, yeah. But listen, it's a basketball school. But what can Bill do for that team? You know, I'm sure he's going to have some type of plan together to get them back to prominence and reverence, you know,

in the football area of things. I think it's going to be very difficult, obviously in this NIL era, but I'm wishing him the best and I'm assuming if he can have some success there, I think that opportunity might happen for him again in the NFL. And, you know, look, I know LT went to

North Carolina, Julius Peppers went to North Carolina. Two of the greatest defensive players in NFL history went to that university, Two of the greatest defensive players in NFL history went to that university. It's tough. It's tough recruiting at a basketball school. It is what it is.

They used to have some Derek Fenner was an outstanding running back. They've had some. Akeem Nix was a wide receiver A.W. Lawrence. They've had some – you know, Akeem Nix was a wide receiver that went to North Carolina. Yeah, they've had some decent players come out of there. Ronald Curry was a two-sport guy, played football and basketball.

Yeah. But congratulations, Coach Belichick. Hopefully you turn that program around. They're going to be – listen, you know you're going to be well coach and like you said guys that have NFL potential they'll go to the NFL

people think oh I'm going to bro if you ain't got potential to go to the NFL I don't give a damn who your coach is you think you can get Usain Bolt's coach you think you can get Bobby Kersey You think you can get Usain Bolt's coach? You think you can get Bobby Kersey? You think you can get one of these fast track coaches and you ain't? And you run a 10 flat 40 and you think you're going to go to the Olympics?

Right. I can only coach the potential that you have. I don't know what to tell you, Joe. I wish there was something I could tell people. Oh, his coach? No, he didn't. He had the ability. Now, the coach might can instruct you and give you pointers and teach you techniques,

but if you don't have the ability to do something, you just don't have the ability. Yes! I don't care who my music teacher is. I ain't playing no instrument. It's really that simple. But Coach is going back to college.

Congratulations. Oregon wins the Big Ten title. Dylan Gabriel, four touchdowns, leads the Duck past the number three Penn State Nittany Lions to remain undefeated. Nico Reed picked off Drew Allard with less than two minutes left in the ballgame.

Ocho, that is a good interception that you'll see a collegiate player make in your life. The way he pinned him? The way he pinned him and held him back and didn't allow him to get through him. Yeah.

That was a veteran. That's a veteran. That's a veteran play. That's an NFL veteran DB play. Don't panic. Relax. Hold him off. And let that thing drop right in the bucket.

The seal of the game. And you thought he was the receiver. Because the way he pinned it it because now the receiver can't get on top of it i got your pin to the sideline now it's gonna have to be a perfect throw because i made you run the loop once i made you run the loop and you couldn't stack me now i can use my momentum to ride you to the sideline now you see how the ball dropped down the chimney it just so happens i was in front of the I was in front of the receiver. So I'm the receiver now.

So it dropped right down to my bread basket. And for him to make that type of a catch, at some point in time, it's hard for me to believe, Ocho, that he didn't play on the opposite side of the football at some point in time. It was too smooth and too natural. Too natural for him not to play receiver at some point. Yes. Yeah, that was an unbelievable game.

I thought the Dubs were going to run away with Ocho at one point in time. I think the score was 28-10. I was like, oh, man, they're going to make miss me, though, Penn State. And it's similar. Like, Penn State always gets in these games, and big games, and they don't play big.

And I think that seems to be, that's the knock on James Franklin. I'm not saying he's not a good coach, but he loses far too many of these games in order for us to put him in that great category because normally Ohio State, he catches the L. Big bowl games, he catches the L. And it's not like he hasn't had good talent because he's had some really good talent. Dylan Gabriel tonight was 22 of 32, 283, four touchdowns, no picks.

Oregon ran the ball 43 times for 183 yards. And I think that's the thing that people don't realize, that how much Oregon actually runs the football. They would run it a lot more than you think they did. You think they just spray the ball all over the field. But they run the football. Nobody had a big game, Ojo. Jordan James was 20 carries, 87 yards.

Noah Whittington had 15 carries for 82. And if you look at the last, Gabriel had 11 yards. That was that last run where he got the first down, slid, and protected himself. 43 carries, 183 yards, 283 yards passing. But they played really good. They looked really good. They were really explosive. This is just a hypothetical.

I'm just throwing it out there. Obviously, with Penn State having the ball towards the end of the game and having the opportunity to actually, well, actually, they would have the score and go for two. Yeah, I would have really liked to see that last off of the drive. I would have loved to see Penn State score and hopefully see what they could do. like to see that last off of the drive. I would have loved to see Penn State score and hope

and see what they can do. Going overtime, let's play ball. Well, you think like I think because I'm looking at Oregon. Okay, you've been going up and down the field. Now when you absolutely have to get up

and down to go up the field, can you get it done now? Because we saw when there was no pressure on you. You went down there, you got seven. And the next thing you know, you got 14. And you got X, Y, Z, and you were boom, boom, boom, boom. Now, when you absolutely have to have it, can you go get

it again? When you have to, because that's the mark of really, I look at offense and defensive football, and yeah, we can say whatever. But how can you be a great defense if you can't get a stop when you have to because that's the mark of really, I look at offense and defensive football and yeah, we can say whatever. But how can you be a great defense if you can't get a stop when you need it, Ocho? You need to get the team off the field on third down and you don't do it and you allow them to keep getting third down after third down

after third down. Or you can't get a big stop to take them out of field goal range or you can't get a turnover. Offensively, you that good offensively and you can't get a turnover. Offensively, you that good offensively, and you can't get a first down to kill the clock to make sure the opposing offense doesn't get the ball? That's how I measure offense and defense.

Yes, we like to see offense go up and down the field. We like to see defense stop people. But when you absolutely have to have it, can you go get it done? And you were thinking the same thing. I was thinking I was like, man, I kind of want Penn State to get this thing because I want to see what Oregon can do when the back's against the wall. Because the last thing,

I don't think nobody really wants to go into overtime. Because you never know. A tip pass here, miss that, miss there. You really don't know. But give Oregon credit. They're going to be the number one seed. They're going to get it by. Think about it.

Think about it. Normally when you get it by, I'm thinking about me, but I can't even talk about me because we ain't really had no blackest angles in no goddamn playoffs. We weren't no goddamn first seed. But I wouldn't want to lose the momentum. I wouldn't want to lose the momentum.

I wouldn't want to lose the chemistry that we have as an offense or as a defense or that flow and rhythm that we may be in. I wouldn't want no goddamn bye. I want to keep that train rolling. Because there ain't no telling what's going to happen. You get that bye and everything fall to shit when you come back and play. Ocho, you remember college is not like –

now, I don't know how this format is going because you have extra teams. But you remember college, hey, man, they used to get three, four wins off before they play a game. You talking about a bye? Them Jokers go home for Christmas break, come back. Right. Hey, get ready to play a football game, Ocho.

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The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Georgia wins another SEC title. The number five Bulldogs clinched the first round by with a 22-19 win over the number two Texas, despite Carson Beck's injury. Stockton comes off the bench, goes 12 of 16, 71 yards. With an interception, Carson Beck was 7 of 13, 56 yards,

and Drew Bobo was 1 of 1 for 9 yards. But I think Stockton, I don't know if they win this game if Carson Beck stays in this game. It's almost like a situation. Because you remember when Tua got hurt and then what you call him came in. Jalen Hurts came in in the SEC championship game and beat, say, Georgia Bulldogs. Or you go back to the national championship game

where Jalen Hurts was playing so bad and Tua comes off the bench. Because here's the thing, Ocho. They ain't practice for Drew. They ain't practice for the backup. You don't practice for the backup because you don't anticipate him getting out, especially now if you run some plays now, the Steelers are different. I expect to see one or two plays in which Jordan Fields is going to get in the game. So I have to, hey, he comes in the game.

This is what he likes to do. They like to run the boot with him. They like to run the QB power, stuff like that. So I got to anticipate that. I mean, you hadn't seen Stockton except my book. So I'm not anticipating him being in the game. Stockton coming in the game, look at how much of the playbook does he – he knows most of the playbook, but how much of the playbook are they going to give to him as opposed to Betts?

I think the playbook, it shrinks. And to me, defensively, it would make it a little bit easier to have to deal with him because there's only so much they're going to allow him to do. There's a reason why he is the backup. I mean, that's just my thought process. I could be wrong. You're right. Yeah, but Ocho, it's not like the NFL where the disparity between the starting quarterback and the backup is so bad.

If you – because Stockton was probably, what, a three- or a four-star recruit? So it's not like you got you got patrick mahomes and then you got his backup or you got joe burrow and you got his backup right you got josh allen with the discrepancy and talent is so vast and so yes now i have to condense the playbook but in college because of the talent pool that's around him hey bro just get the ball out your hand but don't show i watched this game yeah did you see that interception kids can y'all stop celebrating texas get an interception that's supposed to be a pick six all number three has to do is block seven if he blocks it oh that's a tub. That's reservation for six.

He's celebrating and the guy runs right by him and makes a tackle. You know your offense is struggling. Your offense is struggling to get the ball in the end zone. You got to maximize that, but everybody gets so caught up in the world to celebrate.

I guarantee you. I guarantee you his defensive coordinator, his DB coach, is telling him exactly what you and I are discussing. Son, if you make this block, this is a touchdown. If you go look at it, first of all, all the other receivers are way to the other side. Now you ain't got nothing but the quarterback that got hit and offensive lineman.

All you got to do is block because number seven sees it. He hears that way. If three blocks number seven from the Bulldogs, that's a walk-in touchdown. They're going to probably win the game. You got to understand the excitement in a situation like that, especially for a college touchdown. They're going to probably win the game. You got to understand the excitement in a situation like that, especially

for a college kid, for a young kid or something like that to be happening. Your mind, it goes to instant celebration based on the play that was made as opposed to, oh, let me look around and be focused and have that self-awareness to block to make sure he does get in there.

You got to think about when you was that age. You know, it's kind of different. So the way we're thinking about it is completely different because we played at the highest level, and we know ain't no celebrations happening until we cross that line. You know, I ain't celebrating until I cross that goddamn line. I was different. At that point, I'm different. You know what I'm trying to do? Oh, y'all can do that goddamn line. I was different. At that point, I'm different.

You know what I'm trying to do? I'm headhunting. I'm trying to get somebody slipping. You can't do that now, Joe. But, hey, I'm headhunting. I'm looking to peel somebody's cap. But here's the thing. He's coming.

So this theoretically isn't a crack black or a block behind the plate. Get in the way. All he has to do is get a hand. Get in the way. You ain't got to be scared. That's all he got to do. It is a touchdown. And Texas wins.

If they – and Sark, if you go back and look at Sark on the sideline, he knows it. He's like, damn it. You're struggling. Because he knows. Yeah, we need that. You struggle. Yes.

Man, Ocho, I'm not saying that viewers won't be a great pro. But, Ocho, he. You know what? Remember, it's important. It's situational. Bro. It's situational. It's depending on where he goes. You think he goes in later rounds and he's a backup somewhere.

Then if he's in a great situation with a supporting cast that's really good, there's some receivers that can make you quarterbacks. There's some running backs that can take the pressure off your quarterback to where he looks good, where he looks decent. There's nothing wrong with Brock Purdy. I think Brock Purdy's the good quarterback. But look at the supporting cast and what he has around him. He's goddamn decent.

Can you put Carson Beck in that goddamn 49ers offense? You think he's going to be okay? Yeah. It's all about timing. It's all about timing, getting the ball out at the right time. He has a great supporting cast. Now, can you put Carson Beckham, goddamn, in Carolina?

No. What's the other guy's name? No. Yeah, stop. Oh, you're talking about Stockton? Or Qers? In San Francisco. It's all about timing.

You. But some quarterbacks need players to elevate them. Some quarterback can elevate players. A Patrick Mahomes, a Tom Brady, a Peyton Mack. There are certain quarterbacks, they can elevate

marginal talent and get more out of them. Some quarterbacks need more talent to uplift them. And there's nothing wrong with that. But, I mean, some of the mistakes that he makes, I'm like, bro, what? I'm trying to figure out because I'm trying to – because I'm like, go back and run that again because I'm trying to see what he's seeing.

I can't do that. Sometimes, though, Troy, that's what I want the replay for because I want to see maybe, I'm like, but I'm looking like, bro, damn. And I know, I think he has an injury, but I don't look at him as being like mobile

and I'm probably sure there are a lot of people in Austin that's thinking, if we put Arch Madden in there, we win that game. I bet you. Like I can say, I don't really follow anybody. I don't really follow anything, you know.

I don't follow blogs and stuff like that to see what they're saying about the local team and things like that. I don't follow really anybody that I don't think that follows Texas like that. But it's hard for me to believe because I know a lot of people thought like, you know what, I guarantee you they probably thought that, man, if we had Arch Madigan, that's a game that we could have won. But I know when Arch Madigan comes in the game,

I'm thinking, you know what I'm thinking when he comes in the game. The funny thing about it is, when Arch played early in the season, when he was out, Arch could not only run, yeah, Arch was throwing that thing like crazy. He was throwing all over the field. Listen, tonight, Texas had nobody

but to blame for themselves. They had two missed field goals. Hell, they falling for the goddamn fake punt. Yep. First of all, you have to understand the situation of football. You just got a situation where you went down and scored. The last thing the team want to do is give you the ball right back.

Put your punt safe. Yeah. Coach has got to know that. Where are you going? They have to know that. It's situational football and understanding what's going on at the time. I don't get these guys. Understand, you just scored a touchdown.

Clearly, you got the momentum. And you just forced them to go three and out. The last thing they want to do is to give you the football back. Hey, watch the fake. Hey, just back. Hey, let's go. Hey, watch the fake. Let's go. Hey, just to make sure. Let's go punt safe. What you put?

First of all, how many times? When's the last time Texas returned a punt? Come on, bro. It's not the time to try to be hero and set up a return because you set up a return. You guys going to have to go early. And now you see what happens. Now you allow them to get a first down.

They keep the ball. It's stuff like that, Ocho. That's the thing. Situational football, that's so important. And the really good ones, they understand that. You have to know the situation and what transpired. Man, damn. Man, we just scored.

Let's get the ball back. You can't ask for anything more. Just force them to a three and out. Now you about to get the ball back, Coach O. Let's go putts. I ain't worried about it. I don't care about a return. I just want the ball.

But give Georgia credit they win in overtime walk it off they played eight overtimes last week against Georgia Tech they play another or they play what two overtime

not one because Texas kicked the field goal and then Georgia got the ball and they scored yeah they scored on theirs their possession and they win 22-19 to secure a spot

in the college football playoffs and a buy because you know whoever won the SEC was going to get, receive a buy. Coach Prime tells Antonio Pierce he wants the Raiders to draft the door and Shiloh. If the season ended today, the Raiders would have the number two pick. Times thinks the Raiders would be a good spot for his son. At an event in Las Vegas time told Pierce

you're truly the best now I need you to do the right do one thing I need you to grab those boys I like it though I like it I like it but I don't remember it's very important the situation you go to your supporting cast is very important that you have the tools around you at your disposal. You have the... Huh? He got Brock Bowers. He got Brock. Brock is the real deal. He got Brock Bowers. Top three, top four, along with... Is it McBride? Did I say that right? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. He might be top three or four, and I ain't talking about three or four. And I ain't talking about three or four. We need more than Bowers. We need one more dog. Oh, for sure. For sure.

They got some good receivers. Not great. They got good. They got good, quick, speedy guys. I'm talking about we. Like, I'm part of the damn Raiders. They just need one. They just need one. And he's going to be fine yeah

yeah yeah I mean look I think it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing shapes out Jacksonville has two wins I think the Giants have two wins I think the Raiders have two wins and at some point in time, they're like,

you don't ever want to show your fan base that you don't really care about winning. I mean, because we want to try to win, but we really try to lose. Now, Jacksonville, y'all ain't going, listen, y'all can't I don't know what y'all going to do because you got Trevor.

I don't think Trevor going nowhere anytime soon exactly you got the Giants in need of a quarterback desperately the Raiders need a quarterback desperately there are several teams maybe somebody moves up

to get if you fall in love with somebody during the draft process you put them on the board, you evaluate them, you study their tape and you list, like, this guy is franchise altering. But it's going to be very, very interesting to see this thing, how it shapes out Ocho. But I do think Shador is going to be a very high pick. He's made himself some money.

He got coached. He got a coach that is offensive coordinator this year. Was an OC in the NFL. So he's pro ready. His dad is a coach. You know, you like players, especially

in the quarterback position, that dad was a coach. So he understands it. He understands what it takes to be the mechanism of everything that comes along with being an NFL quarterback. You're the CEO. Yes, sir. Got to be buttoned up, Rojo. Yeah.

Got to say all the right things. Do all the right things. It's more than just playing the position. Everybody says, man, who cares? It's different. Stop it. Stop it. It is. Just like if you're a CEO, Tim Cook can't just do

willing-ended stuff, even though Apple products are flying off the shelf. It doesn't work like that. There's a decorum. You know, you got to be very demure. You got to be very what? You got to be very demure

when you're in that situation. That's a word you have to spell at some point in time so I can't keep you away Demure D-E-M-O-R Demure U-M-U-R

Demure okay okay Demure oh you got to talk like you French Demure okay okay okay I like that what it mean Okay, okay. Oh, you guys talk like you French. Demure. Okay, okay, okay. I like that. What it mean?

I had French toast for breakfast this morning. I'm finna use that. It's reserved. It's mine. When I met her, I was very demure. I don't think Real gonna say you a demure. Real probably say you the damn fool when she met you. You the damn fool two years in and you

a deep fool now. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, when it's time to shake the cup, I get very demure. Ah, undemure. Nah, you ain't shy. Nah, you shaking the cup, you ain't shy either.

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I think Travis Hunter is the best collegiate player in college football. And I'm not talking about snaps because snaps is not a stat. But I'm saying if you look at what he did on the offensive side of football, you look at what he's done on the defensive side of the football, it's hard for me to say that I've seen a better college player. I haven't. I don't know if we've seen a better college athlete that played a game of football.

I can't say that we've seen a better college athlete that played a game of football. I can't say that I've seen that. And to be top five in receiving yards, to be top five in receptions, to play at the level that he played at on the defensive side of the football, that's just me. Look, and I understand, I respect these guys. Matt Leiter is a Heisman Trophy winner, and he gets a vote. Brock Huard analyzed the game. I love the way he calls the game.

Jonathan Stewart played in the league and played at a very high level, so I respect all these guys' opinions, but for me, the best collegiate player in football is Travis Hunter. Anyone that would disagree, again, some people are going to hold

Travis at the stake because of their personal vendettas against Prime because it's Colorado, for whatever reason. They won't give him his credit, his due credit. Those people that can't get or side with their personal reason for hating Prime

are going to allow that to affect what Travis Hunter has done and their decision making when it comes to, you know, the Heisman voting or just like it's ridiculous, man. It's ridiculous. And those that have played the game of football, that have actually played the game of ball and are watching him do what he's doing and still have thoughts that someone else in the Heisman is beyond me because I've never seen it. And I was a great athlete.

And I ain't never seen no shit like that. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell is y'all looking at? Yeah. And I don't care. And my thing is, well, I don't care if he can do it at the next level. We're talking about at this level.

The Heisman Trophy ain't got nothing to do with the NFL level. We're talking about this year. And for people to say, well, he's not even a top 10 player. Come on. I believe, look. Yeah. Now y'all just saying stuff just to say stuff. Because he is a top 10 player.

And his draft status is going to reflect that. Look, maybe he won't be as good a receiver in the NFL. Maybe he won't be as good a DB. But we're talking about right now as a collegiate player, Ocho. That's what we're talking about. Because who's to say that Ashton Gentry

is going to go to the NFL and play and have the type of career in the NFL that he had in college. A lot of times, Troy Davis, I don't even think, played a snap. Matt Forte had a couple of good years in the NFL. I think the Smith kid, UFC and UCF, I don't think he might have – I think he played like a year or two in Detroit, but he never had the – obviously, look, Barry and LaDainian, Marcus Allen,

you know, hey, Rondane. Rondane didn't have the type of career. He was an all-time lead rusher in college history. You hear me? It's different at that next level. Ricky Williams. It's one thing to be able to do in college. When you get to that next level, the grown men, they got mouths to feed.

The grown men, they have a wife to take care of. They got kids. Mortgages due. Card note. Rent. Insurance. Side chick. Somebody, you finna come to the next level thinking you're coming for $2,000 every season?

Man, s***. Every, because here's the thing in college and what I try to tell people. Look, on a college team, let's take the best college team ever assembled. Let's just say out of 115 players, they got 30 NFL players.

The NFL got a 53-man roster. All of them mofos in the NFL. All of them there. Even the 15 or 16 practice squad guys are in the NFL. So that's the difference, what you're going against. And what I tell people this, Ochoa, I tell people all the time. I don't care if you take the best player, the best offensive lineman, the best defensive lineman. You take the best

DB, you take the best wide receiver. If that guy is in the NFL, he can make it look foolish. An average DB can take a great wide receiver and tie it. What happened to him? He must be hurt. And the same thing. I've seen

great offensive linemen and guys, just guys. Like, how you beat that man for two sacks? That man's a first-team all-pro tackle. And you got two sacks and three pressures on him? Yep. Yep.

It's different when you're going up against a grown man and his only job is to what be a football player these guys gotta go to class they gotta go to study hall they gotta do all this other stuff professionals all they do is play professional football like um

where I said basically that it's grown men at the next level and it's not going to be easy. And then they will probably say, well, hell, the same will go for Travis Hunter and him being successful at the next level. Listen, if, if, if you, if you know football, if you understand skill sets and you understand DNA, if you understand a person being special at what they do, you know when it's going to transition well.

He's one of them players. He's one of those people. He's one of those people. It's going to transition. Just so people don't say, oh, you just said it's difficult when players go from college and the chance of making it to the next level or being as successful as you were in college at the next level, it's difficult, yes. But you can tell.

You just know. Ocho. But Ocho, we're not saying you go down in the NFL like you did college. Yeah, but I'm saying, let's just say he has to speak. Let's just say they have packages and because you know what happens oh joe when you have a dominant college career people automatically assume you're gonna come do that in the nfl yes and but you set those expectations by doing what you've done at the collegiate level

so it doesn't matter whether you play football or basketball or baseball or whatever the case may be. When you have, when you've set lofty expectations, when you see guys like a Fred Curley in track or you see guys like a Michael Norman in track and they have outstanding careers, what is it, Xavier X-Man, he won the 100 and the 400 meters,

but injuries. So they expect you to go, I mean, but there are some guys, you look at Michael Johnson, Michael didn't have that great a college career, and he's one of the two or three greatest track sprinters in the history of the sport.

When you talk about speed, so you talk about, you know, from 400 down, I mean, what you got? You say? Maybe Carl? That's it.

But he didn't have a stellar career like some of these others. Like Carl could have made it to eight Olympics. He did not boycott it. But you don't know, Ocho. But I'm just saying, I'm throwing that NFL apart. I'm talking about right now. What we saw this year, Ocho. Think about the great receivers.

When you saw Megatron at Georgia Tech, you knew what time it was. When you saw Larry Fitzgerald at Pittsburgh, you knew what time it was. You know, when you saw Julio Jones at Alabama, you knew what time it was. You know, when you saw Julio Jones in Alabama, you knew what time it was. When you saw Travis Hunter at Colorado, you know what time it is. Well, I knew Megatron would even be better pro. I said, because if he ever

had a quarterback, he could be something special. Because he was at Georgia Tech. They ran the football. So, he catching 45 passes. But when you look at something special. Because he was at Georgia Tech. They ran the football. So he catches 45 passes. But when you look at his size, he's 6'4", 240. He's running 4'3".

You're like, who's going to deal with that? First of all, who's going to press him? What DB tried to press Megatron? Okay. Now you get him in the red zone. You got to give him gunner. You got to give him gunner you got to give him gunner gunner support basically line two guys up on the top over the top of it or he gonna jump up and catch the ball he got a 40 plus inch vertical yeah yeah he's six foot four he's 240 so we saw

when he got a quarterback yeah well you just saw the numbers that he put up. He just had arguably one of the greatest single seasons in the history. He still has the record almost 2,000 yards in 16 games. So you're absolutely right. Sometimes you can just look at a guy and see it translate

like, yeah, you're going to be not. Yeah. Well, guess what, Ocho? Next Saturday, we're going to find out. All this speculation, I think he should win. Yeah. Because there's going to be some disappointing folks on both sides.

People are going to say Jenty should have won if he doesn't win. Right. People are going to say Travis should have won if he doesn't win. But, hey, it's not a situation where it's like Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was the overwhelming favorite. You know what I see? Reggie Bush was an overwhelming favorite. People shouldn't even be sad.

If Jenty wins, if Travis wins, at the end of the day, both of them won regardless. And I'm not talking about the goddamn Heisman. I'm just saying in general, both of them won regardless. No matter who's going home with that goddamn trophy, they both had great seasons they both get ready to do great things at the next level

yeah man look here Ocho I want that trophy I'm just happy to be a part of it I want that trophy because guess what yeah because they remember that you see all those the Heisman house part of it. I want that trophy. Because guess what? Yeah.

Because they remember that. You see all those, the Heisman house, and they have all those old guys. They have Archie Griffin and they have Marcus Allen, they have Barry, they have Tebow, and they have all these guys. Bro, I want to be a part of that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because guess what,

Ocho? 15 years from now, ain't nobody going to remember no 2,000-yard rush season if you don't win the trophy. We remember Marcus. He was the first to do it. He won the Heisman. Barry did it. He won the Heisman. Ricky did it.

He won the Heisman. Henry did it. He won the Heisman. Henry did it. He won the Heisman. A thousand yards don't mean if you ain't got that trophy to come on with you, though, Chuck. Listen, I'm with you when you're right. But, unfortunately, yeah, I'm with you.

I'm just being honest. It was a beautiful thing. It was a great thing. But so many other people have done it already. What Travis Hunter's done, we haven't seen that before. Right. Not at that level. Consistently. Week in and week out.

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