Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bengals best Cowboys, Cordae joins Nightcap, Eagles beefing
Episode Date: December 10, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Burrow, Ja’Marr Chase and the Cincinnati Bengals getting their 5th win of the season after beating Cooper Rush, CeeDee Lamb a...nd the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho are joined by rapper and singer-songwriter Cordae to discuss the musician’s new album “The Crossroads”, Philadelphia Eagles DE Brandon Graham confirming that QB Jalen Hurts and WR AJ Brown are beefing and much more!03:13 - Show Start03:30 - Intro05:10 - Bengals v Cowboys37:00 - Cordae joins54:30 - Hurts and Brown relationship strained1:03:14 - Deebo struggling(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Who they?
Hey, say it for me real quick.
Say it for me.
Say it for me.
Say who they.
They finally.
They finally.
They finally won the game.
They finally.
They finally.
Y'all know who it is.
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Oh, Joe.
Yo, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me have my moment.
Let me have my moment.
If your team didn't win the night, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball.
Huh?
You hear what I'm talking about?
My team will never buy.
Hold on.
Does that count?
No, listen.
We did that in Jerry's world.
I wonder how Jerry's feeling tonight.
Huh?
I wonder how Jerry's feeling tonight.
Huh?
Bro.
Do me a favor real quick.
Do me a favor real quick.
What is it? One of the teams that nobody wants to see if we get into the playoffs is us.
Did you see how our defense played tonight?
We played a little better.
We played a little better.
Don't be talking about my ball.
Did you see the best?
Did you see the best receiving forward tonight too?
Chase going off.
Yeah, his name is Jamar Chase.
He has the moniker called 7-11.
You know why he got the moniker called 7-Eleven?
Because he's always open.
And every time he touches the ball, you got to hold your breath like this.
Because he might take it to the house.
How many games have you won to date?
How many games have you won to date?
One.
No, how many games have the Bengals won to date?
Oh, y'all won all of five.
Listen, we won all of five.
So some people in the chat, you might be laughing at five not really under understanding the significance of what five really means if
you're christian in the chat five the definition of five in christianity is grace okay let me tell
you else what starts with five that's really good the jackson five huh what about five guys that's
good too huh remember the high school remember you was at savannah state
you had five girlfriends you remember that i just had one huh no i don't know yeah okay yeah you
told me that story i'll tell you what how about this here i got one more thing what about what
about a high school athlete he might be five star yeah yeah you brag You bragging about beating the
Cowboys at Jerry World.
All you did
was, hey, you from out of town,
you took the local freak
and made him your girlfriend. That's all you did.
You beat the Cowboys.
What's with the disrespect?
You beat the Cowboys.
Hold on.
Did your team play tonight?
No.
Did your team win the last game they played?
Yes.
Remember we beat the Browns?
Okay.
Oh, we hooping and hollering about beating the Browns?
Is that what we doing?
Are we hooping and hollering about beating the Browns?
That's all I'm asking.
That's all I'm asking you.
What's our record, OJ?
Stay with me now.
You're telling me I can't hoop and holler about being the Cowboys in Jerry's world,
which is America's scene, but you're happy about being the Browns?
They only won one game.
Who won one game?
The Cowboys have only won one game in Jerry's world.
They lose by an average of 18 points a game.
They lose by an average of 18 points a game,
but they dominate the headlines in the media outlets.
We ain't talking about the headlines.
We talking about the football field, what they dominate.
Listen, we talking about the football field, and I'm telling you who we beat.
I'm telling you who we beat.
Who they?
Who they?
Who they think they going to beat them Bengals?
Who they?
Who they?
They finally don't want a game.
I'm feeling good. They finally don't want a game. I'm feeling good.
They finally don't want a game.
They finally don't want a game.
Ever since you said, y'all, man, hey,
Joey said we about to go rock.
We about to win eight of our next nine.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't do that.
Don't do that because it's an opportunity.
We run the table now.
You do know on schedule we do have your Broncos, right? Now it's an opportunity we run the table now you do know on the schedule
we do have your Broncos right
now y'all gonna run the table
you do realize
we got the Broncos
on the schedule right
yes
okay
who gonna stop Jamar Chase
Sertan
who
PF2
hey
let me tell you something
when Uno get it When Uno got...
One versus two?
You know the PS2 came out...
You know a year the PS2 came out?
I don't.
Okay.
But it's still...
It's outdated.
It's outdated.
No, it ain't.
Let me see how many PS2s they done sold a day.
I think it's the most popular gaming console.
Is it or is it not, Ocho?
It's not. It's definitely not.
The most popular gaming console is the PS5.
Unfortunately.
I just want to let you know that.
FYI.
Hey, don't make nothing up
either.
Patrick Sertain is my dude.
That's my guy. Obviously, I remember the battles with
his dad, you know, back in my day.
You know, when Pat Sertain was with the Chiefs, when he was with the Dolphins,
we had some good battles.
But I'm telling you what's going to happen when Jamar Chase has his—
You just—
Hey, enjoy this victory, Joe.
Enjoy this victory.
We're not even worried about what we got.
Wait a minute.
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
Let's not disrespect my Bengals tonight.
I'm saying enjoy the victory.
Okay. Hey, say who they real quick for me just say who they one time just one time say who they
they finally
the Bengals beat the Cowboys
27-20 the Bengals
improved to 5-8 the Cowboys fall to
5-7 the Cowboys blocked
the punt but since he got the
ball back after look
I did not get the pronunciation of young man's name The Cowboys blocked the punt, but since he got the ball back after, look,
I did not get the pronunciation of young man's name, but I'm going to say A-O.
I can't even pronounce his last name.
Why did he touch the ball?
Why did he touch the ball?
I'm just curious.
Why did he try to touch the ball?
He tried to pick it.
Because what happened?
You remember when they all side kicked it in Washington?
And what did the guy do, Ocho?
Instead of falling on it, what did he do?
Oh, Joe, he picked it up and ran it back for a touchdown.
Yeah.
So now we got guys wanting to be a hero.
You see what happens?
Yeah.
Now see, everybody was applauding.
He ran it back.
Yeah.
You accepted something in a win you never would in the loss.
Yeah.
Boom, boom.
Yeah.
I'm prophetic.
Now, everybody knows if you're on special teams, if you block, if you block a punt, a field goal or a PAT.
Yes, sir.
If the PAT doesn't matter, but a field goal and a punt.
If the ball is behind the line of scrimmage, you can pick it up.
Because even if you don't get it, the ball did not go past the line of scrimmage.
Once the ball goes past the line of scrimmage and your ass touch it, that is considered a fumble. That is a change of
possession. The ball belongs
to the team that recovers it.
You can see Jon Fossil,
his dad was my offensive coordinator.
He used to be the ball boy with me when I was
in Denver. So I know Jon Fossil
says he's probably 10. You see
him on his get away, get away.
I'm going to be a hero because I remember the guy in Washington,
he got him a touchdown on a scooping score on an onside kick.
That's my turn.
Now look at him.
Listen, and there are really no excuses, especially in that situation.
You'll get the ball right there.
Oh, yeah.
In meetings, you go over that situation.
You go over all possible scenarios
to make sure
something like that doesn't happen.
So there's really no excuse
outside of having a lapse of judgment.
Hero!
Lapse of judgment
in a very important situation.
And honestly,
it might have cost...
Actually, hell, it did.
It cost them a game.
It cost them a game.
Matter of fact,
our defense was playing so well to me,
even if they did get the ball
in that scenario,
I think the defense
would have stopped them
and we would have went down
and scored anyway.
And the Bengals
are going with tonight
no matter what
because the football gods,
the football guys
were on our side tonight.
Not only were the football gods
on our side tonight,
we got some breaks
that we haven't gotten all year.
And it's about time.
You see Joe foaming the ball
and you're liming
with Johnny on the spot?
Yeah.
Woo! I said, oh, Lord, I'm about to cry again.
Hey, listen.
Listen, I said it. I tweeted it out.
If we had lost this game tonight, as
emotional as I was last time we did the show
and the Bengals lost, I wouldn't have been
able to take that. I wouldn't have been able
to take that kind of heartbreak two
weeks in a row. I just can't.
I wouldn't have been able to
do the show i mean you could you could have fined me you could have suspended me but i i just just
you would have to give me some type of grace and not have to go through that emotional roller coaster
yet again if we were to lose i can't take that like it's been a bad it's been a bad month of me
is it it's been a bad two months for me the bangles losing you know amongst other things
and and i just i just can't seem to get it right It's been a bad two months for me. The Bengals losing, you know, amongst other things.
And I just can't seem to get it right.
But tonight.
When.
Who that?
Who that?
Yeah, see, you can't even do it right.
Confident.
When Joe threw that flat route.
Yeah.
I tweeted.
I'm like, that's incomplete. Yeah. Never game. Never for you never game oh now see normally when I tweet sub-ocho and all the trolls yeah they like
to say captain obvious yeah now oh you a liar you just you hate the cowboy you hate bro I'm just
going by the letter of the law the rules yeah he bobbled it and he never really got full control
yeah he didn't make a move. Yeah.
You have to turn up and do it.
This is not a football move because he didn't
take a step. All I did was tell you
what was going to happen. Matter of fact,
I got a question for you real quick. For those in the chat
who don't understand what
a football rule is, once you have
control of the ball, how many steps is it
considered a football rule before
a pass is incomplete? Or if you get a peanut punch, it's considered a fumble, how many steps is it considered a football rule before a move incomplete?
Or if you, if you get, if you get a peanut punch, it's considered a fumble.
How many steps?
It varies to the officiating crew.
Some people say two, some people say three, some people let you get down one.
Right.
But I don't think he made a football move because all he tried off because he
bobbled it.
And by the time he secured it and turned, he didn't take a step.
He just turned.
Yeah.
I already knew what it was going to be because if you understand the rules maybe if
he had taken a step
maybe you could say well damn
but because he was bobbling it Ocho
and put it in
world I said okay
it is
what it is but Michael
was beside himself on the sidelines and then he walked off the field
early he was hurting boy
he was hurting rightfully so because
defensively despite what they've looked like
the entirety of the season the last two weeks
they played some good football
defensively they played some good football
now I'm saying it obviously can get better
but it was abysmal all god damn
season which is why they've been in the situation
it still was.
Hold on, hold on. Let me get something. Let me pull this up for you.
Yeah.
The Bengals have 433
yards. You got damn right we did.
We have the MVP. We have the MVP
right now. We have the NFL's
MVP right now, and the fact that he's not
in the conversation is simply because
of our record. That's all. Yeah.
I'm just letting you know, he's the MVP. It's simply because of our record. That's all. Yeah, I'm just letting you know.
He's the MVP.
Well, how many times can we say that about Matt Stafford when he was in Detroit?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We are in 2024.
I'm not going to talk about what Matt Stafford did when he was in Detroit.
What's your win-loss record?
Who?
You just talking about who they?
Yeah, who they.
That's us.
That's us.
Exactly. You mad? Look. Who? You just talking about who they? Yeah, who they. That's us. That's us.
Yeah, exactly.
You mad?
Look, I thought Chase had a little trouble tracking the ball tonight.
He let one hit him in his head.
Yeah.
On the fade ball.
That's the lights.
That's the light.
The sun.
That was the sun.
Yeah.
It was the sun.
I don't know about the sun, though, Choe.
It was really pretty late at night.
I think it was the lights, though.
It's tough catching the ball at night.
People don't understand because you've never been
in the stadium with those lights.
Right.
But it's easy
to lose the ball and the lights.
Yeah.
And he had another one,
excuse me,
that went through his hands.
And you could tell
that he had a problem
picking it up
because the ball beat him up.
Yeah, you know that.
And he normally,
plus he normally gets it before.
Yeah, yeah.
And he had it right here like he couldn't see it. Like, one of the things that I do, you know what I mean. And he normally plus, he normally gets it before. And he had to, like, right here, like, he couldn't see it.
Like, one of the things that I do hate, Unc,
is obviously when you're running around and the ball is coming
and your eyes happen to, I hate, your eye, the lights catch your eyes.
And then when the lights catch your eyes, the ball,
it get right up on you like that.
Yeah.
Before you can react.
Before you can react, boom, it's already in your hands.
And either you drop it or you bobble it.
Because if you can't kick it off the quarterback's hand and see it in all the way after it leaves his hands, it messes you up real, real bad.
Did you wear eye black?
Because I wore eye black.
Well, I'm already black, so I didn't really need no eye black.
I need to add nothing on to what I already got.
But no, I didn't.
I need a little bit more.
But I need, some people want like the stickers. Right. Yeah no i need i need that i need that paint you think that really
did something you think that really worked though well i i had a problem early in my career yeah and
i did it well i first started doing it because i thought it looked cool yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
and then i said man what's that for they said man it helped with the glare yeah and then i i met uh i ended up losing the ball in the light but i was on special teams that lost the ball
in the light and the ball went in the end zone right and you know and so from that point on i
put it on the next game and i wore it ever since right but uh i definitely think it helped but
then again it was in my mind that it helped so so that's all that matters. It didn't matter if it helped or not. I thought it did. But, look,
the Cowboys are what they are.
They really got one receiver.
It's C.D. Cooks had
a couple of catches.
I'm not sure what the guy was doing.
He run
a shallow cross. The guy's trailing. There's nobody
outside, and he pulls up.
I'm like, why would you pull up?
There's nobody out there.
Somebody has to be following
you. If you see Ocho,
everybody knows if you're running a shallow cross
and there's nobody out there,
there's got to be man.
If there's green grass in front of you,
rule of thumb, you keep going.
You keep going. If you see somebody
out there, you pull up. Yeah, listen, if it's zone, you got to see that at the snap of the ball.
You already know what time it is.
Yes.
You see that right at the snap.
Look at your keys, use your eyes, get to your spot, and sit your black ass down.
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So what you thought?
Hey, everybody else playing man,
are they going to play you, though?
That's not you, bro.
You're not Jerry.
You're not Randy.
They ain't playing no... They ain't playing,
they're playing man everywhere else,
it's only you all.
That ain't how it works.
And so, and Mike McCarthy
lost his mind on that.
Like, what are we
doing i asked the same question like what are you doing right um i thought they did a great job of
trying to pressure joe but that's that's the problem that you run into because if you pressure
and he gets the ball out yeah now you got chase one-on-one yeah and you don't want them problems
there ain't nobody on that on that secondary that wanted those problems with chase right and that's
what happens when you miss him.
He spins up out of it, Ocho is to the house.
You know what's funny? You say there's nobody
in that secondary, there's nobody
in the NFL in general
that wants some problems with Uno. You hear me?
No.
The top receivers, you're going to catch hell
no matter who you are.
It's too much space.
Absolutely.
Especially because he can run shallow.
He can run speed out.
He can run a dig.
He can run a pose.
He can run a go.
He can run a shake.
It's too many options.
It's too many options.
It's too many.
Too many options.
Because guess what he'll do?
He'll start you on the shallow cross, put on the brakes,
and we'll run back out.
Because you're going to get over the top because you know he's trying
to get to a point.
So you're going to try to race him over the top because you know he's trying to get to a point so you're gonna try to race him over the over the top he slam on brakes it's a wrap back out now you not now you really in deep way and you way out of position you way you way out of position but
look now all this false prophecy false hope the cowboys have we going somewhere what you
y'all steal them boys? Where y'all going?
Hold on. They thought they were going somewhere?
They thought that.
We're going to keep fighting.
You know, Jerry, we're not out of this thing. You're out of it.
You've been out of it. Who said that? Jerry said
they wasn't out of it?
Yeah, they was out of it. But he said that recently?
Mm-hmm.
I ain't even going to say nothing.
Ain't nothing to be said
I'm finna bask in our glory
cause we won
what's understood don't need to be said
you right
that's why I ain't gonna say nothing no more about my bangles
but
and Jamar Chase
14 catches 177
two scores
Chase is the first receiver to have 10 catches, a buck 75,
two touchdowns, and two games since Jamar Chase did it in week 10
against the Ravens.
Guess what?
He's also the first receiver to do it since Jamar Chase did it in week 5
against the Ravens.
Ooh.
Hey, that boy good.
Yeah.
He's going to be a unanimous first-team All-Pro.
Yeah.
And rightfully so uh jetta looks like
he's gonna be the other receiver that's gonna be a first team all pro yeah he's not gonna be
unanimous like chase is but chase chase has a chance to win the triple crown yeah a chance to
win the triple crown oh there's only four or five weeks left he's going to win the triple crown
nothing is gonna stop jamar chase nothing gonna stop jo Burrow. They might as well get whatever award it is
that Chase is supposed to get
as far as when it comes
to winning that Triple Crown.
They might as well
ship it on to Cincinnati
right now.
They might as well
ship it on over there
right now.
And that's not all.
Not only is he going
to win the Triple Crown,
we do have the MVP
at the quarterback position.
Many people aren't going
to give him credit
because our record doesn't...
You're not going to get
no MVP.
Right.
Let me finish. Do me a favor. Go ahead. Don't interrupt me. Next time you want to talk, raise your hand. I'm going to give him credit because our record doesn't. You're not going to get no MVP. Right. Let me finish.
Do me a favor.
Go ahead.
Don't interrupt me.
Next time you want to talk, raise your hand and I'm going to call on you, okay?
But anyway, like I was saying, Joe Burrow should be the unanimous MVP.
But due to our record this season, he's not going to be in the talk.
He's not going to be in consideration.
Josh Allen, kudos.
Kudos to him.
Kudos to Lamar Jackson as well. But if we happen to go on a run and for some reason slither into the playoffs
in some kind of fashion by way of God,
we are a team that nobody's going to want to see offensively.
Now, I can't speak for the defense, but I'm saying if we got to score 53,
we're going to score 53.
If we got to score 45, we can score 45.
But y'all going to give up 55?
Listen,
that's neither here nor there.
We are a team
that nobody wants to see.
And y'all don't want to see nobody?
No,
don't nobody want to see us,
especially offensively.
That's the focal point.
Ocho,
but you got to bring your entire team.
You can't leave your defense at home.
I understand that, but I can only do my job.
That's something Bill Belichick always said to do.
Do your job.
My job is to focus on offense.
My job is to score 40 to 55 points and get—
Are you a team or not?
Huh?
Are you a team?
What?
Are you a team?
Is it the Cincinnati Bengals or the Cincinnati offense,
the Cincinnati defense, the Cincinnati special team? I just need to know which are you. It you a team? Is it the Cincinnati Bengals or the Cincinnati offense, the Cincinnati defense, the Cincinnati special teams?
I just need to know which are you.
It is a team.
Can I say something before we finish?
Okay, thank you.
It is a team, huh?
It's a team, right?
But that team is broken down into three phases.
Offense, defense, and special teams.
Now, each three of those phases has to do their job in order for you to get a W.
You know W's like James Winston?
Y'all ain't eatin' none.
Y'all hungry.
Oh, we ate something.
This is the first time
y'all ate in three weeks?
Hey.
But let me ask you a question.
When the playoffs start,
which one of the Bengals
are going to be in the playoffs?
The offense,
the defense,
or the special team?
The whole team,
the team in general.
Y'all will be home, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
They're the chance.
Listen, they's a chance.
Hey, can you ask Ash the Giver
what percentage the chance is
of us making it to the playoffs
still to this point?
Uh,
an 80-year-old getting pregnant.
There's a chance.
Right.
But,
Come on,
there's a percentage.
Now, the percentage ain't that low.
There's a percentage
an 80-year-old can get pregnant.
I was married
when she could see Jesus.
83?
83? There is a chance. Right.year-olds who get pregnant. I was married when she conceived Jesus. 83. 83?
There is a chance.
Right.
They put man on the moon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chance.
I feel.
You ain't going to put no money down on it, though.
Who?
Ocho.
Me?
How much I owe you right now?
Three bands.
Okay.
How about this?
When we play the broncos
i ain't betting nothing you ain't listen how you gonna bet me with my money
i bet you i owe you three thousand i bet it let's let's bring it down a notch and let's
respect the winner let's respect let's respect the winner. Let's respect the winner, Sergleton. That's me. Okay?
That's me.
Let's respect the winner, Sergleton.
Now.
You owe me $3,000.
How you the winner?
I'm giving you the opportunity to double your money.
So when we play the Broncos, let's double or nothing that $3,000 I owe you.
I don't like doubling my money.
I like to just take my money.
I got something in mind.
What you trying to do? I want to buy somebody.
What you trying to do?
Absolutely.
And it's just so happy to call $3,000.
The gift I want to get calls exactly $3,000.
I said, you hold on.
I said, sir, can you hold this for me?
I'll be right back in like two weeks.
So I got to go in there by this week.
Don't you get it?
Hey, hold on.
Tell me, tell me, tell me.
What you going to get?
What you going to get? What you going to get?
What is it?
Just give me a guess.
The Bengals have less than a 2% chance to make the playoffs.
2%?
Less than.
Less than 2%?
Yes.
Actually, it's 1.9.
1.9?
You know what?
That's not that bad.
You know what?
That's not that bad.
I'm going to just say 2%.
Because I bet if
you ask the chat right when they go to whole foods i bet some of them they get two percent milk i bet
sometimes when you get a latte you go to starbucks and they ask you what kind of milk you want
sometimes people say you know what i want two percent milk there is a significance if you're
an actor you know sometimes the agent the agent fee sometimes the agent fee is two percent no it ain't
it's 10 15 20 percent of hollywood okay you ain't getting no two percent okay listen i'm just i'm
just trying to throw that context i didn't need you to correct me okay bye bye bye bye bye okay
but they got a milk chance yeah two percent
since since i put it in terms that you will understand right right they got a milkshake
yeah two percent uh the question is for you is burrow and chase the best quarterback
wide receiver combo uh absolutely now there there there there are a few people that would like to
argue um as far as duos are concerned but but a duo that is doing
what they've done at such an early stage as soon as they started they hit the ground running right
away obviously because of the continuity that they already bit already had and the chemistry
they had already built yeah at lsu together it made the transition into the nfl being on the
same team that much easier it made that much that much easier, which is one of the few reasons
why the chemistry, it looks the way it does, okay?
When you watch Joe Burrow and you watch Jamar Chase work,
that ain't nothing but Prince and Apollonia, okay?
That ain't nothing but Mark Anthony and J-Lo, okay?
You stand with me?
That ain't nothing but Prince Hakeem and the lady, the daughter from McDowell's.
I remember the daughter name in the movie. What was the name? OK. Yeah.
Yeah. But you get where I'm going. You get what? Yeah. And just it just it's just a match made in heaven.
It's a match made in heaven. Like when you meet somebody new one of the key things one of the key things and the only key
things that matters is the chemistry and whether you're compatible okay and when you're compatible
your wi-fi the connection is perfect and joe burrow and goddamn jamar chase wi-fi is on point
yeah i don't i don't i don't have any other references or analogies I can think of to give people a better understanding on how great they are so early.
Chase got 93 catches, Ocho.
Yeah.
1,300 yards and 15 touchdowns.
Ooh, A-ung.
Last year, he's already clear.
He's seven catches behind last year's pace.
He's already 100 yards clear of last year's pace.
He already has eight touchdowns more than last year.
And he has, and he has, they're five and seven.
What's their record?
Hold on.
They're five and eight, so they got four games to go so there's an outside chance he could get to that 1700 mark ocho yeah absolutely absolutely and he might he might get to that 20
that magical number that 20 touchdown mark yeah which only only a handful of guys have ever gotten
there yeah jerry and randy yeah not not jerry got 22 randy got 23
nobody else is i mean there have been a few 18 yeah and but nobody there's only two guys that's
ever gotten 20 receiving touchdowns in a season yeah and you know that that young bull man is
nice man obviously even as early as it is man chases is the greatest banger receiver to ever
play chase is the greatest banger receiver to ever play. Chase is the greatest banger receiver to ever don them goddamn stripes.
You hear me?
You know, some of the things that he's doing,
they haven't been done before in that helmet, in that tiger.
Ain't nobody never done nothing like that, man.
You know?
Mike Brown, you're going to be sorry you didn't sign that man early.
Why, who you telling?
You hear me?
Yeah, you're going to have to pay double.
You're going to have to pay double.
It's going to hurt. As a matter of fact, you're going to have to pay double. It's going to hurt.
As a matter of fact, you're going to have to pay.
Oh, he's about to get $40 million.
$40? Make it $42.
And the two is the milk.
The two is the 2%.
Add that shit on, too.
He said, Jetta got $35.
I want $5 more per year.
And I want an extra $20 million guaranteed. Yeah, don't even play
with me. Don't even play because you tried me.
You tried me at the beginning of the season.
I asked you. You made me sit out of
training camp. Yep.
And you had plenty of time. You had ample
time to understand what you had
at your disposal. You know
what you get in the long run. You know what you get.
Because I gave you a sample size of
three years. Okay? I know I might have two more years on my deal but sometimes you
just know that no i got one more now so come on with it huh come on with it you know what to do
and if you and if you and hold on if you if you want to play again do me a favor don't franchise
tag me let me play one more and let me go show you i can get 60 some i'm not coming there ain't
nothing you could do you told me you told me you was gonna take care of me yeah after this one yeah i played
it out yeah now you won't see my black ass if you don't if you don't pay me my money this time
around period and we ain't fit we ain't gonna play because we from the clock it and i ain't
talking about i ain't talking about no higgins about to bounce on you. So go out there and try to play without me and Higgins.
Yeah, period.
Shit.
So I'm gone.
But I do think.
You know, T ain't going to be here now.
That's my point.
One thing about it, T deserves money.
T deserves money.
T has played well, you know, barring injuries.
He's had a few setbacks here and there.
But he deserves that number one money.
He's going to get it now.
He's going to get it.
Hey, he just needs to finish the season healthy.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But I tell you what Jamar Chase has done,
he's played himself into Offensive Player of the Year.
Yeah.
Now, Saquon is still ahead of the pace of Eric Dickerson's
single-season rushing record.
Yes, sir.
It's going to be hard for him to overtake
that, especially because of
the team that he's playing on. They haven't won enough games.
Now, it would be very interesting, Ocho.
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, they
had had nine wins at this
present time. So instead of being, what,
five and eight,
they would be five, they were nine.
Nine and three
or nine and four.
Now we got a serious discussion.
Yeah, we do.
I just don't think he's won enough games.
But he's definitely going to get some consideration because he's a triple crown winner.
And the last guy that won the triple crown, he was offensive player of the year.
That was Cooper Cupp.
And matter of fact, I feel like Keith Lee right now.
I feel like Keith Lee right now.
That's why I got my hands sitting like this.
So right now I'm going to talk serious.
I'm not even playing.
Jamar Chase is the kind of player, based on what he's done
and based on what he's going to do, he deserves Juan Soto kind of money.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Man, stop it.
Period.
All right?
No.
He is the greatest.
Hey, the greatest banger receiver of all time, Jamar Ethelio Chase.
He from Louisiana.
Okay?
Look, Ocho.
Yes, sir.
He going to get 160.
What did Jetta get?
What did Jetta get guaranteed?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We want 200.
We want.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Hey, Papa Chase. Papa Chase, I know me hey papa chase papa chase i know you watching
papa chase i know you want matter of fact jamal probably watches too oh they everybody be watching
that if you're watching the show i know y'all watching listen we ain't negotiating unless we
getting 200 matter of fact we want our shit guaranteed too okay we want 200 we want 200
right simply for the fact you just said 140 you,000. You just said $140,000, right?
No, $160,000.
Okay, all right.
Let's say $160,000.
Matter of fact, add another $40,000,000 for the bullshit you pulled on us in training camp.
We thought you was going to do a deal.
So just make it $200,000.
Make it guaranteed.
Boom.
Done deal.
Matter of fact, four-year $200,000.
There it is right there.
Matter of fact, by the time we get to $28,000 get to 28, 29, we're going to see you again.
We're going to see somebody else, and we're going to hit you all across the head one more time.
It don't got to be in Cincinnati.
It could be somewhere else.
But that's what it is.
So Chase, Papa Chase, I done did the deal for us already.
So I already know the numbers on what we're going to get.
Let's have at it.
I don't need nothing.
Just about 1%. 1%.
Zach Taylor applause, not just Joe Burrow's physical presence,
not just the physical toughness,
but the mental toughness in the game,
because Zim does that to you.
Yeah.
As tough as it gets.
You know,
look,
Zim heated him up.
He knows the offensive line is banged up.
Yeah.
First of all,
they're not that good to begin with.
And they're banged up.
Yeah.
So with that being said,
you know Zim was going to bring the pressure.
Yeah.
The problem is, when you bring pressure and you don't get there,
that means Chase is one-on-one.
Mm-hmm.
That means he's one-on-one.
Yeah.
Now, it's one thing, okay, it's one thing to be in position.
You got to get him on Ocho.
You got to get him on the ground.
Got to.
You can't let him spin up out of there.
And he hard to tackle too, Arnk.
That's the problem.
He hard to tackle.
There's very few receivers out there
with the ball in their hands.
Not only are they hard to tackle,
they know what to do when they get that ball in their hands.
And he's one of them ones.
You know?
I just can't receive him.
But when he got the ball in his hands,
he very slippery.
He's very, very slippery.
What's up?
Ocho, we got a special guest.
Now it's time to introduce our special guest.
His album, The Crossroads, is out now.
The Crossroads Tour kicks off February 2025.
Tickets are on sale now via his official site, CordayMusic.com.
Corday, what it do?
What up, Uncle Longtime No See. Ocho, what it do, y'all? Oh, what's up, boy? What Corday, what it do? What up, Uncle Longtime, no seat, Ocho
What it do, y'all?
Oh, what's up, boy? What it do, what?
Man, I can't complain, God is good
Both y'all fellas looking clean, man
Looking clean right now
Love y'all show, by the way, I love it
You know, I...
Appreciate that, appreciate that
So tell us...
Go ahead, Ocho
I was finna say I took me a little shower
And I shaved my beard
Because I knew, you know
People was gonna be on here looking at me tonight That's all Oh, that's it, that's it I took me a little shower and I shaved my beard because I knew people was going to be on here looking at me tonight.
That's all.
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
I just got a haircut, man.
I ain't going to lie.
I've been thugging it out.
I've been looking real messed up.
But, you know, I'm on nightcap tonight.
Let me get a retwist.
I was on first take with no retwist.
I was like, you know, this is the last time I'm going to do that.
I ain't going on nightcap with no retwist.
I appreciate that.
Tell us a little bit about the album, Crossroad.
What does this album entail um i feel like honestly um this is my best body of
work by far i know um when i when me you sat down 101 i was telling you how just like i just wanted
um honestly my my main theme with this album has just been push that pin push that push that pin
and i got great advice from
lord wayne he told me he said um you got to treat every song like it's people's first time hearing
you like i feel like when you gain a fan base and you gain success as an artist your fan base when
you i've been blessed to have a real deal core fan base but that can become a crutch because you're
in the studio you're like oh my fans gonna love whatever the heck i put out you know what i'm
saying they're gonna love this regardless versus if you approach every single
song like you're making the first impression um it just inspired me just just to push that pin and
another saying is just like don't leave nothing else to the judges like i got kanye west yay i
got yay you know i'm saying it way twice on the album so it's really blessed to have them and
jordan ward anderson pack everybody a part of this so um I'm glad it's out finally man lord what's your favorite
song what's your favorite song on the album hmm my favorite song it might be oh six dreaming just
because it's so personal it's a story about my mom um my mom she used to make music and stuff
back in the day but she was never able to make it so what i ended up doing was i sampled one of her old songs and i sampled one of her old songs and
basically told the story about how like it's a story of irony how my mom was chasing her dream
i'm sitting watching her she tried out for like american idols she tried out for making the band
all these things but she wasn't able to like you know make it and it's just funny how I didn't even realize that until I was writing this song,
how that might have been, not might have, but that definitely instilled, like,
something in me, like, you know what, mama?
Like, I got us.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, listen, the fact that you grew up in Maryland, right?
You're surrounded by passionate fans.
Obviously, you had teams like the Ravens, the Orioles, University of Maryland,
the Terps.
How did the local sports culture, you know, influence you as a kid?
And did they in any way shape your competitive drive in music?
Yes, because, you know, PG County, where I'm from is, you know, they call it Basketball County.
You know, we got KD, Markel Fultz, Michael Beasley, Delonte West.
So many people, I'm forgetting this off the top of my brain right now but so many dope it killed my basketball dreams real early
first and foremost because you hooping against dogs every night dogs every night and i had i
had a pup in me i ain't gonna lie with you i had a pup in me man so it allowed me to really focus
on making music full-time at an early age because i know I had a pup in me, man. And so it allowed me to really focus on making music full time at an early age.
I know I have a chance with hoops, man. So on that sport.
But as far I mean, Redskins now the commander culture is crazy.
Like I grew up watching the Santana Moss, Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Sean Taylor, R.I.P.
Watching you tear us up. You know what I'm saying? Watch you tear us up, Ocho.
And even the Wizards, you know,
like, love the John Wall, Brad Bill era.
So I say all that to say,
because, unfortunately, the sports team,
you know, Wizards had some good years.
We had a couple good years with the Skins.
We had a great year with the Commanders.
But because those good years were so few and far between,
it was real fans. Like, real
deal fans. Like, if you love the Commanders,
you don't halfway like them. You love them.
Same with the Wizards. You know, right now,
we in the rebuilding phase. We got Bilal,
you know, doing his thing. We got Alex Saar.
Jordan Poole hooping.
You know, so it...
I guess growing up, more so
of like that... We got Stephon Diggs. you know, so it, I guess growing up more so of like that, um, even football,
we got Stefan Diggs, you know, the Diggs brothers, both from Maryland as well. Stefan, he hooped at
Maryland at the tournaments as well. So, um, I mean, it's just a real big, like just sports coach
out there for sure. Sorry if I went on a tangy. Now you're good. You're good. You're good. You're
good. Take your time. Cordae, who are some of your inspirations? Obviously you do what you do,
but who are some of your inspirations when you were growing up and you like,
man,
I really liked the way they get down musically.
Yes.
Um,
definitely.
He's like,
well,
it wasn't talking about sports.
Cause we seen what happened.
You had expiration date.
Um,
musically,
definitely Kanye West.
Okay.
Definitely Lil Wayne.
Definitely a lot of Nas.
A lot of Jay-Z.
Damn, you got, you love them heavyweights.
I mean, they was unavoidable as a kid.
You know what I'm saying?
They're unavoidable.
And it was just greatness personified. you know what i'm saying unavoidable and it was just greatness personified
you know what i'm saying like even having wayne in my corner giving me like the gems that he's
been giving me has been like a huge difference maker like with this album again the work ethic
that i'm learning from him and even you know back to the advice i said earlier of him telling me
just like push that pin my whole thing is just push that pin push that pin because you got to
treat everybody like it's their first time hearing you and
your fans that already love you.
When you've been acting,
treating every song,
like nobody's ever heard of you.
Like they're going to be like,
this dude is the greatest ever.
And people may not have heard of you are more likely to,
you know,
enjoy the music that you make.
So,
um,
yeah,
definitely that that's my,
my Rushmore as well,
right there for sure.
Has parenthood changed how you approach music?
I would say parenthood has,
uh,
has changed my approach and scheduling and how I make music.
And,
you know,
as a creative,
you know,
with no kids,
I'll be in the studio from like 7 PM to 8 AM next day,
5 PM to 5 AM the next day, 1 p.m. to 5 a.m.
The next day, 1 p.m. to 9.
So it's like more of a flurry.
But, you know, when you have children,
both of y'all have kids, right?
I'm sure.
Yes.
Yeah, I got 15 of them.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a blessing.
Fertility is a blessing, my brother.
That's why God put us on earth.
You feel me?
But, yeah, so with me,
it's like since I had
my daughter,
it's been more like
I'm at the studio every day
from 9 a.m.
to 6 p.m.
I come home,
play with her,
put her to sleep
and then three days
out the week,
I go back to the studio
once she go to sleep
from like 9 p.m.
to 4 a.m.
So I still try to get
that 70 hour,
my goal is to like
70 hours a week
in the studio. And again, I usually do my nine hour days, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. So I still try to get that 70 out. My goal is to like 70 hours a week in the studio. And
again, I usually do my nine hour days, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. Three days out the week, I go back to the
studio and I take off on Sundays. Right. So, you know, I had a question, right? As a musician
myself, you know, as a musician and a lyricist myself, I always think about your body of work
and your music and your lyrics.
And I just want to ask you,
your lyrics often contain a thoughtful mix
of introspection and social commentary.
Yes, sir.
How do you balance being honest and vulnerable
in your music while maintaining
your sense of artistry and poetic flair?
That's something I've always struggled with
as an artist myself,
which is why I haven't dropped yet. But go yes sir no i understand that brother i understand that you're
just prepping it to make sure we we ready to hear it um you know what i'm saying you gotta make sure
we ready for it yes yes you know you know somebody told me this gold don't get old you know what i'm
saying like sometimes when it comes to good music
no matter when you release it go one of my biggest songs i released it two years after i recorded it
that song triple platinum and so i say all that to say gold don't get old but um to answer your
question for me um social commentary you know sometimes in cancel culture i'll be a little
i ain't gonna i'll be a little scared to say how I feel like when it comes to like a tweet or something like that.
But I've always been a writer and sometimes I can express myself like through words and through, you know, tweets and things of that nature.
But I've always found writing as a comfort for me since I was a kid, since I was 10 years old.
I've been writing raps every day since I was 10 years old, recording every day since I was 15.
And so I say this to say I'm able to get out my thoughtfulness
and, like, I guess my social commentary
through my music
and then also, like, get through some comedy,
you know, through some music
because it's funnier when you,
if you can make a joke about society
or something, but you put a bar,
it makes it way funnier you know what i'm
saying like so i i think that's the creativeness of it it's just like finding dope creative ways
and entertaining ways that's relatable to everybody but also like saying how you feel
you know because artists our job is to decorate time the first hip-hop art we're like the modern
age rios this is how you time it's that we'rehop art, we're like the modern-day griots. This is how you time.
We're the gatekeepers of time.
With that responsibility of just
finding cool and creative and dope
ways and sometimes even humorous
ways to say how you feel.
Cordae, give me your hip-hop
Mount Rushmore. Hip-hop
Mount Rushmore.
You gotta go Wayne. He got a lot of
kids in the music business. You gotta go Wayne. Mount got a lot of kids in the music business.
You gotta go Wayne.
My Rushmore 4, right? That's it.
Okay, this is my personal. Before we
say that, I know everybody. My personal.
I got Wayne.
I got
Ye.
I got
Hove.
I got Nas,
that's my four right there.
That's four.
Okay.
That's my four.
That's some heavyweights.
That's some heavyweights right there.
And then Eminem and Kendrick,
they on there too.
We got to make more mountains for them too,
but that's my Rushmore right there.
Wayne, Wayne,
Ye, Nas, and Hove.
Who haven't you collab with?
Give me a dream collab.
Someone that you haven't been in studio with that like,
man,
I would love.
It could be male or female.
Someone you'd like to be your dream collab.
Ocho.
You know,
you took the words right out my mouth.
You took the words right out my mouth.
I ain't gonna lie.
I'm glad you said it for me,
but you said it for me.
I'm gonna think of my second.
Yeah.
Okay.
My second option.
So my first is Ocho.
Um,
my second.
Hmm.
Can they,
can they,
can we do dead or alive?
I'm going to the grave.
Okay.
I'm going to the grave.
I'm going to the grave and digging them up.
Um,
I'm going Marvin Gaye.
I love Marvin Gaye.
Yeah.
I like that.
Is Al Green still alive? I think he's still alive.
Yes. He is.
I don't know. I think so.
I love some Al Green. I'm just going to the folks
I sampled because it'll be cheaper than sampling
them. I'm not. You guys saying this,
folks. Excuse me. Marvin Gaye Al Green and Mike might not I don't know how me and Mike will combine
that's that's just the business side of me thinking honestly that's just all business
thinking of Mike when he's obviously one of the greatest of all time but yeah Al Green and Marvin
Gaye man oh you know Barbarabara mason now i'm going
barbara mason all day wow do you believe do you believe marvin great gay is the greatest r&b
singer of all time he from there i gotta say he from maryland too dc just point that out there
matter of fact i mean you know before you answer that right and you think about you think about
that answer about marvin gay being the greatest R&B singer of all time.
Okay.
I will say this.
For those of you in the chat that have probably never seen it,
Marvin Gaye sang the greatest Star Spangled Banner at the 1984 NBA All-Star Game.
I've never, ever heard a Star Spangled Banner sing in that manner, in that type of tone.
Unbelievable.
I'm not sure if you saw a chord A, but you can do that.
Yeah, I did.
You did?
Oh, man.
I got to that mic, got that beat, though.
I ain't going to lie.
Forgive me, Ocho.
Think so?
Yes.
Whitney.
You going Whitney?
Yeah, I was going Whitney at the Super Bowl.
Whitney killed that thing.
Right.
Yeah, damn.
She did.
And recently, I just seen Jasmineivan do it at the mlb
oh you know i ain't gonna lie to you i don't watch too much mlb right but i've seen that clip
i do love the nationals you know i'm sad as a casual super casual you gotta add the super casual
right um jasmine sullivan killed that thing man she did it any anytime i anytime i hear the name
jasmine sullivan it always resonates with me
with a young lady breaking up with me a long time ago when jasmine sullivan made the song
i was hoping the lady you know when you when you don't want to be with somebody anymore
give them grace by letting them you talk to them in their face sometimes via text if you're shy
but she left me a voicemail she left me a voicemail playing
jasmine sullivan's in love with another man let me know she wanted to leave me for somebody else
not only no you know she did that oh was you ultra yeah no i was i was just chad back then
oh yeah i was i was just chad back then i ain't really had nothing going on for myself so i kind
of understood you know it was someone else that was someone else that could offer her more at the time.
Yeah, I'll never forget that.
You know what's funny?
That happened to me right before I got on too, Ocho.
I ain't going to lie.
Somebody left you?
Yeah, right before I got on.
I ain't going to lie.
But I want to say laugh.
Did you spin the block?
Did you spin the block?
But the block was closed.
The block was closed by then. Street signs But the block was closed. The block was closed by then.
Street signs, the block's closed.
Yellow tape.
What's the red color?
You have barricades up.
Uh-uh, sweetheart.
No, no, this block was closed, for real.
Yeah.
Bro, I guess we all been through it, man.
We all been through it.
Yeah, I get happy looking at her Instagram,
knowing, mm, mm-mm-mm. it, man. We all been through it. Yeah, I get happy looking at her Instagram knowing, mm, mm, mm, mm.
I'm like, man.
Dodged it.
Dodged it.
That is Cordae.
He has a new album that's dropping.
It's called Crossroads.
It's out now, Crossroads.
Yes, sir.
His tour kicks off in February.
Tickets are on sale now
as his official site,
cordamusic.com.
Cordae, man, thank you for joining us, man.
Continued success, bro.
Enjoy the sit down.
As always, you're welcome to be a guest on Nightcap
anytime you see fit, bro.
Thank you.
I appreciate y'all.
I'm going to take you up on that, too.
I would like to highlight, too, you know,
I was part of Club Shay Shay before Cat Williams.
I had my membership before Cat Williams.
I just got to put that on there. It was already super lit. It was already in the Williams. I had my membership before Cat Williams. I just got to put that on there.
It was already super lit. It was already in the
mood. I just like to put it out. I was an
early member of Club Shea Shea. My car
is still good.
Absolutely. Yes, sir.
Appreciate that.
Congratulations on the young one.
Continue success, my brother.
Thank y'all for having me. I'll see y'all soon. Yes, thank you. I appreciate you as well, Ocho. Thank you all for having me.
Honored to be here.
I'll see you all soon.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That is Cordae.
Album Crossroads is out now.
Tour kicks off in February.
Go to cordamusic.com to cop your tickets.
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Oh, Joe, all apparently is not well with the Eagles.
According to Brandon Graham, the team's longest tenured member, the relationship between Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown is strange.
The person that's complaining, Brown,
needs to be accountable. I'm just being
honest. He knows this. I don't know
how the whole story, but I know that Hurts
is trying and Brown could be a little better
with how he responds to things.
They're friends before, but things have changed.
Graham later apologized,
said, I made a mistake. I didn't add
to it in good light, so that's my bad.
I think that, see, here's the thing.
Yes, sir.
When you say, when they ask A.J. Brown,
what do you need to improve in?
Passing.
Who's the only one that can throw the ball, Ocho?
Yeah, the quarterback.
The quarterback.
Jalen Hurst.
So how is the media, how is everybody going to take that?
Well, that's not how he meant it.
Yeah.
If they ask Carson, what can we do better?
Route running and getting open?
Who are you talking about?
Yeah, he talking about me.
But that's not how he meant it.
Right, right.
But listen, we all know what he meant.
We understand his frustration.
We understand his gripes.
All right,
A-O.
Matter of fact,
A-Ocho,
Ocho,
you know Ocho,
right?
Yeah.
FS1 Ocho?
Yeah,
yeah,
Ocho.
Listen,
if any of you in the chat
that have followed him,
I don't know if you've had
an opportunity to see it.
And Sean,
he showed a description of plays,
a description of plays.
And these are bang, bang plays that are just basic fundamentals of the game of football
having anticipatory skills as a quarterback at the quarterback position being able to get your
number one your number one player to target based on what you see what your pre-read is as a
quarterback and i listen it was five or six plays where one, two, three, boom, get the ball out and let it go.
You know, it's like in that specific game that we talking about,
where I could understand where the frustrations come from with A.J.
Brown.
I'm like, well, okay, now I see it.
Now I see it.
Now I understand.
But you don't do it the way you did it.
Not with the media.
That's something you go to your quarterback.
You go to your quarterback.
You tell him, you put that.
That's all I'm saying.
I need you to do me a small favor.
A.J.
Brown, if you see this, this is, I need you to do me a small favor. A.J. Brown, if you see this, I need you to do me a small favor.
Young Bull, when we come to the line of scrimmage and you see a certain cover
and you see that receiver off, if you see him press at any point
and you see that safety and the safety is in the middle of the field
or he's shaded just a little bit to the hash and I know I can beat him over top,
I need you to give me a chance.
I need you to give me a chance. I need you to give me a chance.
Please.
Put him aside. Have that conversation, but don't
do it this way. Because now all eyes on
Jalen Hurts.
Now all eyes in the pressure.
While you're winning, you're winning.
Let me add that.
Your team is winning. That's the key.
And it's going to come off.
It comes off as being selfish. It comes off as being selfish.
It's going to be a little bit, you know.
And I don't think he's selfish.
Oh, hell no, but he doesn't.
I think he's a competitor.
He wants to contribute.
I think he realizes that in order for us to get to where we need to be,
I'm going to have to catch more than three or four balls.
Devontae's going to have to catch more than three balls.
But like you said, maybe Jalen just didn't see the field yesterday.
Maybe that happens.
Sometimes, Ocho, we don't see the ball well.
We bobble some stuff,
but we don't catch it clean like we want to.
But Jalen has a tough job.
I'm not trying to excuse him,
but I just believe in a situation like that.
He can be handled.
I'm going to go to him and have him.
Check this out, Ocho.
Donovan McNabb weighed in on A.J. Brown's potential frustration with Jalen Hurts.
It's two grown men.
If you got an issue, you come to me.
Let's not go through the media because now it blows up,
and now what you said is out there in front of everybody.
NTO responded.
Yeah.
Now, this is interesting, coming from you.
Now, not how I interpret it, but it's funny thing is,
I agree with you on the idea of it.
If you have an issue with someone that you go to them,
not the media.
But here's the thing.
I never had an issue with you.
But it's known that you had an issue with me.
So maybe you should have taken your own advice here.
Oh, yeah. And we might have won the Super Bowl 39 but that's another story for another day just my two cents number
317 you talk about the jacket you gave yours I'm giving mine like that hey them boys still going
through it right hey you know what they hey hey hey to to and uh goddamn mcnab they're
gonna be like claude and they're gonna be like claude and ray no they're gonna be they're gonna
be the hatfield and the hatfields and the mccoys i like it they ain't claude and ray because claude
and ray was best friends they argued a lot but they were the absolutely best friends they have
i like it to has a point too to has a point obviously I don't I don't know the
intricate details of the situation back then I heard bits and pieces of it obviously T.O. and
I have talked in depth during that time yes you know yeah obviously in the offseason about what
happened I can't remember the date obviously it's been it's been a while since then but you know
listen you got to keep it in the house the best the best way you can I understand A.J. Brown's
frustration as a competitor that's someone that wants to be a part the house the best way you can. I understand A.J. Brown's frustration as a competitor.
That's something that wants to be a part of the game.
Let me, Unc, you know how it is when you don't touch that ball, Unc.
You know how it is.
Yeah.
Can I ask you something?
Did you watch the Bengals game, right?
You watched the Bengals game tonight, right?
Yeah.
What was the first play of the game from the Bengals?
Yeah, you got to give the ball to your playmaker.
What's the first play they ran?
Mm-hmm.
Get a chase.
Let him touch the ball.
Boom. You already did. If you give it to him ran? Get a chase. Let him touch the ball. Boom.
You already... If you give it to him early,
you'll have him late. You'll have him late.
You ain't got nothing to worry about. Something simple.
It wasn't nothing but a little screen route,
a little smoke route. You good. He just needs the ball in his hand. Bingo.
That's it. They don't get it together, though,
because they win it right now.
They win it right now. Number 26, he's
taking some of the pressure off Jalen Hurst. He's taking some of the pressure off Jalen Hurst.
He's taking some of the pressure off Jalen Hurst
where he doesn't have to do so much at the quarterback position.
And when the time comes and they need number 11
and they need number six, they're going to be there.
But it's hard for Jalen too, Ocho,
when you don't get in a rhythm throwing the ball
and then all of a sudden in the third quarter,
the fourth quarter late in the ball game,
you asking me to go make plays, I haven't gotten into a rhythm.
Quarterbacks need to get in the rhythm also.
That's why they give them things early.
I'm going to give you a stomp route.
I'm going to give you an out.
I'm going to give you a slam.
I'm going to give you something easy.
I'm not throwing to go to first play of the game, Ocho.
But I'm going to work my way into it, work my way into the rhythm.
And so, therefore, as the game goes on, I feel good about the calls
and the throws, the potential I'm going to have to make.
But they're going to have to figure this thing out.
You're not going to win.
I don't believe that the Eagles can go to where they want to go to
with Jalen Hurst throwing the ball 19 times.
I don't have it
120 yards, 130 yards.
That ain't going to happen. That's when I'm playing against the better teams.
Especially when you play against the better teams.
When you play against the better teams, the play
calling has to change. The play calling
has to change because
some of the yardage
that you're going to need, some of the drives
that you're going to need, those huge chunk plays
are going to come in handy. You're not going to be able some of the drives that you're going to need. Those huge chunk plays are going to come in handy.
You're not going to be able to play the goddamn field 90 yards
every goddamn time.
Saquon is not going to be able to hit his head off the goalpost
when you play against better defenses all the goddamn time.
You know, it's different.
Sometimes your quarterback has to outplay the opposing team's quarterback.
Yeah, most definitely.
Most definitely.
He throw for 315.
You need to throw for 330.
You know what?
I need to ask.
I don't know if Ash can hear me.
Ash, if you can hear me, can you do me a favor?
And on Emmanuel Acho's page, can you send Ankh that video of the few plays?
Plays.
Yeah, yeah.
It's very interesting.
It's all 22.
It's all 22. So you can see clear as day, like, how are you missing these throws?
Like, how are you missing it?
And just from pre-snap alone, the ball right there.
So I'm looking at almost 50 yards.
50 yards added on to what he already had in the game.
You know, I think he had 34, 43, whatever it might have been.
But he had a 100-yard game based on those simple plays that I saw with the ball the boy had to do.
Get the ball in his hands and get it out.
So I kind of understood the frustration in A.J. Brown after seeing that breakdown from Acho.
I'm like, God damn, I didn't know it was that bad.
As a player who played the game, I get it, but you can't do it that way.
That's not the way you go about it, especially
not through the media. You know, the media messy.
The media is like going to the blogs.
Yeah, you know,
the media is like going to the blogs. You know, not
everybody in your business.
All over your business. The 49ers had a big win
on Sunday, Ocho against the Bears, but
Deebo Samuels did not have a big game.
Deebo was held a two-catcher for 22 yards
in the big win against the bears
continuing his disappointing season in which he's averaging career,
career lows and catches per game yards per game.
But Debo took the social media today and say,
nothing is wrong,
not struggling at all.
Just not getting the ball.
Debo quickly added another post.
He's not in any way criticizing his teammates just cause I voiced my
opinion.
Um,
I'm not hating on any of my teammates.
Be for real.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, around the league,
when injuries happen, it affects everybody.
From top to bottom, it affects the entire team.
Offensively, it hasn't been the same.
Christian McCaffrey is out.
I mean, it's just...
Jordan Mason's out.
You lost your two-time running back.
You're down to your third running back.
Yeah.
I mean, this is what happens.
This is what happens.
And, you know, people.
T-Dub is out.
T-Dub.
I don't know if T-Dub was back, but I think he had a situation here,
a family situation.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate.
When things aren't going well, this is what happens.
Players struggle.
Fans talk trash because they don't look like they did the previous year.
You know, Devo is still
Devo there's nothing wrong with him there's nothing wrong with them all it's just the floor of the
offense is just not going in his favor hell the floor of the offense in general isn't going in
the 49ers favor for that matter right so you know maybe next year they'll be all right and and that's
it because you don't you don't fall off a cliff like that. And I need the casual fans
that are talking trash about Devo not playing well this year. Well, for obvious reasons,
all right? For obvious reasons. It's not that easy.
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to curate and help the right person
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