Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bengals best Cowboys, Cordae joins Nightcap, Eagles beefing

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Burrow, Ja’Marr Chase and the Cincinnati Bengals getting their 5th win of the season after beating Cooper Rush, CeeDee Lamb a...nd the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho are joined by rapper and singer-songwriter Cordae to discuss the musician’s new album “The Crossroads”, Philadelphia Eagles DE Brandon Graham confirming that QB Jalen Hurts and WR AJ Brown are beefing and much more!03:13 - Show Start03:30 - Intro05:10 - Bengals v Cowboys37:00 - Cordae joins54:30 - Hurts and Brown relationship strained1:03:14 - Deebo struggling(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:02 Who they? Who they? Who they? Who they? Let's start. Hey, listen. Let's start the night off right. Who they? Who they? Hello. Who they? Who they? Who they? Who they? Let's start. Listen, let's start the night off right. Who they? Hey, say it for me real quick.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Say it for me. Say it for me. Say who they. They finally. They finally. They finally won the game. They finally. They finally.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Y'all know who it is. Thanks. Welcome to another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite on Shatter Shark. He is Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree. Winning Bengal Ring of Fame honoree. The pro bowler, the all pro.
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Starting point is 00:06:00 Let me have my moment. Let me have my moment. If your team didn't win the night, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. Huh? You hear what I'm talking about? My team will never buy. Hold on. Does that count?
Starting point is 00:06:13 No, listen. We did that in Jerry's world. I wonder how Jerry's feeling tonight. Huh? I wonder how Jerry's feeling tonight. Huh? Bro. Do me a favor real quick.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Do me a favor real quick. What is it? One of the teams that nobody wants to see if we get into the playoffs is us. Did you see how our defense played tonight? We played a little better. We played a little better. Don't be talking about my ball. Did you see the best? Did you see the best receiving forward tonight too?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Chase going off. Yeah, his name is Jamar Chase. He has the moniker called 7-11. You know why he got the moniker called 7-Eleven? Because he's always open. And every time he touches the ball, you got to hold your breath like this. Because he might take it to the house. How many games have you won to date?
Starting point is 00:06:54 How many games have you won to date? One. No, how many games have the Bengals won to date? Oh, y'all won all of five. Listen, we won all of five. So some people in the chat, you might be laughing at five not really under understanding the significance of what five really means if you're christian in the chat five the definition of five in christianity is grace okay let me tell you else what starts with five that's really good the jackson five huh what about five guys that's
Starting point is 00:07:22 good too huh remember the high school remember you was at savannah state you had five girlfriends you remember that i just had one huh no i don't know yeah okay yeah you told me that story i'll tell you what how about this here i got one more thing what about what about a high school athlete he might be five star yeah yeah you brag You bragging about beating the Cowboys at Jerry World. All you did was, hey, you from out of town, you took the local freak
Starting point is 00:07:53 and made him your girlfriend. That's all you did. You beat the Cowboys. What's with the disrespect? You beat the Cowboys. Hold on. Did your team play tonight? No. Did your team win the last game they played?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yes. Remember we beat the Browns? Okay. Oh, we hooping and hollering about beating the Browns? Is that what we doing? Are we hooping and hollering about beating the Browns? That's all I'm asking. That's all I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:08:22 What's our record, OJ? Stay with me now. You're telling me I can't hoop and holler about being the Cowboys in Jerry's world, which is America's scene, but you're happy about being the Browns? They only won one game. Who won one game? The Cowboys have only won one game in Jerry's world. They lose by an average of 18 points a game.
Starting point is 00:08:41 They lose by an average of 18 points a game, but they dominate the headlines in the media outlets. We ain't talking about the headlines. We talking about the football field, what they dominate. Listen, we talking about the football field, and I'm telling you who we beat. I'm telling you who we beat. Who they? Who they?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Who they think they going to beat them Bengals? Who they? Who they? They finally don't want a game. I'm feeling good. They finally don't want a game. I'm feeling good. They finally don't want a game. They finally don't want a game. Ever since you said, y'all, man, hey,
Starting point is 00:09:15 Joey said we about to go rock. We about to win eight of our next nine. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't do that. Don't do that because it's an opportunity. We run the table now. You do know on schedule we do have your Broncos, right? Now it's an opportunity we run the table now you do know on the schedule we do have your Broncos right
Starting point is 00:09:26 now y'all gonna run the table you do realize we got the Broncos on the schedule right yes okay who gonna stop Jamar Chase Sertan
Starting point is 00:09:37 who PF2 hey let me tell you something when Uno get it When Uno got... One versus two? You know the PS2 came out... You know a year the PS2 came out?
Starting point is 00:09:52 I don't. Okay. But it's still... It's outdated. It's outdated. No, it ain't. Let me see how many PS2s they done sold a day. I think it's the most popular gaming console.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Is it or is it not, Ocho? It's not. It's definitely not. The most popular gaming console is the PS5. Unfortunately. I just want to let you know that. FYI. Hey, don't make nothing up either.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Patrick Sertain is my dude. That's my guy. Obviously, I remember the battles with his dad, you know, back in my day. You know, when Pat Sertain was with the Chiefs, when he was with the Dolphins, we had some good battles. But I'm telling you what's going to happen when Jamar Chase has his— You just— Hey, enjoy this victory, Joe.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Enjoy this victory. We're not even worried about what we got. Wait a minute. What are we doing? What are we doing? Let's not disrespect my Bengals tonight. I'm saying enjoy the victory. Okay. Hey, say who they real quick for me just say who they one time just one time say who they
Starting point is 00:10:49 they finally the Bengals beat the Cowboys 27-20 the Bengals improved to 5-8 the Cowboys fall to 5-7 the Cowboys blocked the punt but since he got the ball back after look I did not get the pronunciation of young man's name The Cowboys blocked the punt, but since he got the ball back after, look,
Starting point is 00:11:10 I did not get the pronunciation of young man's name, but I'm going to say A-O. I can't even pronounce his last name. Why did he touch the ball? Why did he touch the ball? I'm just curious. Why did he try to touch the ball? He tried to pick it. Because what happened?
Starting point is 00:11:22 You remember when they all side kicked it in Washington? And what did the guy do, Ocho? Instead of falling on it, what did he do? Oh, Joe, he picked it up and ran it back for a touchdown. Yeah. So now we got guys wanting to be a hero. You see what happens? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Now see, everybody was applauding. He ran it back. Yeah. You accepted something in a win you never would in the loss. Yeah. Boom, boom. Yeah. I'm prophetic.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Now, everybody knows if you're on special teams, if you block, if you block a punt, a field goal or a PAT. Yes, sir. If the PAT doesn't matter, but a field goal and a punt. If the ball is behind the line of scrimmage, you can pick it up. Because even if you don't get it, the ball did not go past the line of scrimmage. Once the ball goes past the line of scrimmage and your ass touch it, that is considered a fumble. That is a change of possession. The ball belongs to the team that recovers it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You can see Jon Fossil, his dad was my offensive coordinator. He used to be the ball boy with me when I was in Denver. So I know Jon Fossil says he's probably 10. You see him on his get away, get away. I'm going to be a hero because I remember the guy in Washington, he got him a touchdown on a scooping score on an onside kick.
Starting point is 00:12:32 That's my turn. Now look at him. Listen, and there are really no excuses, especially in that situation. You'll get the ball right there. Oh, yeah. In meetings, you go over that situation. You go over all possible scenarios to make sure
Starting point is 00:12:46 something like that doesn't happen. So there's really no excuse outside of having a lapse of judgment. Hero! Lapse of judgment in a very important situation. And honestly, it might have cost...
Starting point is 00:12:58 Actually, hell, it did. It cost them a game. It cost them a game. Matter of fact, our defense was playing so well to me, even if they did get the ball in that scenario, I think the defense
Starting point is 00:13:07 would have stopped them and we would have went down and scored anyway. And the Bengals are going with tonight no matter what because the football gods, the football guys
Starting point is 00:13:13 were on our side tonight. Not only were the football gods on our side tonight, we got some breaks that we haven't gotten all year. And it's about time. You see Joe foaming the ball and you're liming
Starting point is 00:13:23 with Johnny on the spot? Yeah. Woo! I said, oh, Lord, I'm about to cry again. Hey, listen. Listen, I said it. I tweeted it out. If we had lost this game tonight, as emotional as I was last time we did the show and the Bengals lost, I wouldn't have been
Starting point is 00:13:37 able to take that. I wouldn't have been able to take that kind of heartbreak two weeks in a row. I just can't. I wouldn't have been able to do the show i mean you could you could have fined me you could have suspended me but i i just just you would have to give me some type of grace and not have to go through that emotional roller coaster yet again if we were to lose i can't take that like it's been a bad it's been a bad month of me is it it's been a bad two months for me the bangles losing you know amongst other things
Starting point is 00:14:04 and and i just i just can't seem to get it right It's been a bad two months for me. The Bengals losing, you know, amongst other things. And I just can't seem to get it right. But tonight. When. Who that? Who that? Yeah, see, you can't even do it right. Confident.
Starting point is 00:14:22 When Joe threw that flat route. Yeah. I tweeted. I'm like, that's incomplete. Yeah. Never game. Never for you never game oh now see normally when I tweet sub-ocho and all the trolls yeah they like to say captain obvious yeah now oh you a liar you just you hate the cowboy you hate bro I'm just going by the letter of the law the rules yeah he bobbled it and he never really got full control yeah he didn't make a move. Yeah. You have to turn up and do it.
Starting point is 00:14:48 This is not a football move because he didn't take a step. All I did was tell you what was going to happen. Matter of fact, I got a question for you real quick. For those in the chat who don't understand what a football rule is, once you have control of the ball, how many steps is it considered a football rule before
Starting point is 00:15:04 a pass is incomplete? Or if you get a peanut punch, it's considered a fumble, how many steps is it considered a football rule before a move incomplete? Or if you, if you get, if you get a peanut punch, it's considered a fumble. How many steps? It varies to the officiating crew. Some people say two, some people say three, some people let you get down one. Right. But I don't think he made a football move because all he tried off because he bobbled it.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And by the time he secured it and turned, he didn't take a step. He just turned. Yeah. I already knew what it was going to be because if you understand the rules maybe if he had taken a step maybe you could say well damn but because he was bobbling it Ocho and put it in
Starting point is 00:15:37 world I said okay it is what it is but Michael was beside himself on the sidelines and then he walked off the field early he was hurting boy he was hurting rightfully so because defensively despite what they've looked like the entirety of the season the last two weeks
Starting point is 00:15:54 they played some good football defensively they played some good football now I'm saying it obviously can get better but it was abysmal all god damn season which is why they've been in the situation it still was. Hold on, hold on. Let me get something. Let me pull this up for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:10 The Bengals have 433 yards. You got damn right we did. We have the MVP. We have the MVP right now. We have the NFL's MVP right now, and the fact that he's not in the conversation is simply because of our record. That's all. Yeah. I'm just letting you know, he's the MVP. It's simply because of our record. That's all. Yeah, I'm just letting you know.
Starting point is 00:16:25 He's the MVP. Well, how many times can we say that about Matt Stafford when he was in Detroit? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We are in 2024. I'm not going to talk about what Matt Stafford did when he was in Detroit. What's your win-loss record? Who? You just talking about who they?
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, who they. That's us. That's us. Exactly. You mad? Look. Who? You just talking about who they? Yeah, who they. That's us. That's us. Yeah, exactly. You mad? Look, I thought Chase had a little trouble tracking the ball tonight. He let one hit him in his head.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. On the fade ball. That's the lights. That's the light. The sun. That was the sun. Yeah. It was the sun.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I don't know about the sun, though, Choe. It was really pretty late at night. I think it was the lights, though. It's tough catching the ball at night. People don't understand because you've never been in the stadium with those lights. Right. But it's easy
Starting point is 00:17:10 to lose the ball and the lights. Yeah. And he had another one, excuse me, that went through his hands. And you could tell that he had a problem picking it up
Starting point is 00:17:19 because the ball beat him up. Yeah, you know that. And he normally, plus he normally gets it before. Yeah, yeah. And he had it right here like he couldn't see it. Like, one of the things that I do, you know what I mean. And he normally plus, he normally gets it before. And he had to, like, right here, like, he couldn't see it. Like, one of the things that I do hate, Unc, is obviously when you're running around and the ball is coming
Starting point is 00:17:30 and your eyes happen to, I hate, your eye, the lights catch your eyes. And then when the lights catch your eyes, the ball, it get right up on you like that. Yeah. Before you can react. Before you can react, boom, it's already in your hands. And either you drop it or you bobble it. Because if you can't kick it off the quarterback's hand and see it in all the way after it leaves his hands, it messes you up real, real bad.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Did you wear eye black? Because I wore eye black. Well, I'm already black, so I didn't really need no eye black. I need to add nothing on to what I already got. But no, I didn't. I need a little bit more. But I need, some people want like the stickers. Right. Yeah no i need i need that i need that paint you think that really did something you think that really worked though well i i had a problem early in my career yeah and
Starting point is 00:18:15 i did it well i first started doing it because i thought it looked cool yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then i said man what's that for they said man it helped with the glare yeah and then i i met uh i ended up losing the ball in the light but i was on special teams that lost the ball in the light and the ball went in the end zone right and you know and so from that point on i put it on the next game and i wore it ever since right but uh i definitely think it helped but then again it was in my mind that it helped so so that's all that matters. It didn't matter if it helped or not. I thought it did. But, look, the Cowboys are what they are. They really got one receiver. It's C.D. Cooks had
Starting point is 00:18:53 a couple of catches. I'm not sure what the guy was doing. He run a shallow cross. The guy's trailing. There's nobody outside, and he pulls up. I'm like, why would you pull up? There's nobody out there. Somebody has to be following
Starting point is 00:19:10 you. If you see Ocho, everybody knows if you're running a shallow cross and there's nobody out there, there's got to be man. If there's green grass in front of you, rule of thumb, you keep going. You keep going. If you see somebody out there, you pull up. Yeah, listen, if it's zone, you got to see that at the snap of the ball.
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Starting point is 00:25:12 are they going to play you, though? That's not you, bro. You're not Jerry. You're not Randy. They ain't playing no... They ain't playing, they're playing man everywhere else, it's only you all. That ain't how it works.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And so, and Mike McCarthy lost his mind on that. Like, what are we doing i asked the same question like what are you doing right um i thought they did a great job of trying to pressure joe but that's that's the problem that you run into because if you pressure and he gets the ball out yeah now you got chase one-on-one yeah and you don't want them problems there ain't nobody on that on that secondary that wanted those problems with chase right and that's what happens when you miss him.
Starting point is 00:25:46 He spins up out of it, Ocho is to the house. You know what's funny? You say there's nobody in that secondary, there's nobody in the NFL in general that wants some problems with Uno. You hear me? No. The top receivers, you're going to catch hell no matter who you are.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It's too much space. Absolutely. Especially because he can run shallow. He can run speed out. He can run a dig. He can run a pose. He can run a go. He can run a shake.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's too many options. It's too many options. It's too many. Too many options. Because guess what he'll do? He'll start you on the shallow cross, put on the brakes, and we'll run back out. Because you're going to get over the top because you know he's trying
Starting point is 00:26:24 to get to a point. So you're going to try to race him over the top because you know he's trying to get to a point so you're gonna try to race him over the over the top he slam on brakes it's a wrap back out now you not now you really in deep way and you way out of position you way you way out of position but look now all this false prophecy false hope the cowboys have we going somewhere what you y'all steal them boys? Where y'all going? Hold on. They thought they were going somewhere? They thought that. We're going to keep fighting. You know, Jerry, we're not out of this thing. You're out of it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You've been out of it. Who said that? Jerry said they wasn't out of it? Yeah, they was out of it. But he said that recently? Mm-hmm. I ain't even going to say nothing. Ain't nothing to be said I'm finna bask in our glory cause we won
Starting point is 00:27:08 what's understood don't need to be said you right that's why I ain't gonna say nothing no more about my bangles but and Jamar Chase 14 catches 177 two scores Chase is the first receiver to have 10 catches, a buck 75,
Starting point is 00:27:27 two touchdowns, and two games since Jamar Chase did it in week 10 against the Ravens. Guess what? He's also the first receiver to do it since Jamar Chase did it in week 5 against the Ravens. Ooh. Hey, that boy good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 He's going to be a unanimous first-team All-Pro. Yeah. And rightfully so uh jetta looks like he's gonna be the other receiver that's gonna be a first team all pro yeah he's not gonna be unanimous like chase is but chase chase has a chance to win the triple crown yeah a chance to win the triple crown oh there's only four or five weeks left he's going to win the triple crown nothing is gonna stop jamar chase nothing gonna stop jo Burrow. They might as well get whatever award it is that Chase is supposed to get
Starting point is 00:28:07 as far as when it comes to winning that Triple Crown. They might as well ship it on to Cincinnati right now. They might as well ship it on over there right now.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And that's not all. Not only is he going to win the Triple Crown, we do have the MVP at the quarterback position. Many people aren't going to give him credit because our record doesn't...
Starting point is 00:28:22 You're not going to get no MVP. Right. Let me finish. Do me a favor. Go ahead. Don't interrupt me. Next time you want to talk, raise your hand. I'm going to give him credit because our record doesn't. You're not going to get no MVP. Right. Let me finish. Do me a favor. Go ahead. Don't interrupt me. Next time you want to talk, raise your hand and I'm going to call on you, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:30 But anyway, like I was saying, Joe Burrow should be the unanimous MVP. But due to our record this season, he's not going to be in the talk. He's not going to be in consideration. Josh Allen, kudos. Kudos to him. Kudos to Lamar Jackson as well. But if we happen to go on a run and for some reason slither into the playoffs in some kind of fashion by way of God, we are a team that nobody's going to want to see offensively.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Now, I can't speak for the defense, but I'm saying if we got to score 53, we're going to score 53. If we got to score 45, we can score 45. But y'all going to give up 55? Listen, that's neither here nor there. We are a team that nobody wants to see.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And y'all don't want to see nobody? No, don't nobody want to see us, especially offensively. That's the focal point. Ocho, but you got to bring your entire team. You can't leave your defense at home.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I understand that, but I can only do my job. That's something Bill Belichick always said to do. Do your job. My job is to focus on offense. My job is to score 40 to 55 points and get— Are you a team or not? Huh? Are you a team?
Starting point is 00:29:40 What? Are you a team? Is it the Cincinnati Bengals or the Cincinnati offense, the Cincinnati defense, the Cincinnati special team? I just need to know which are you. It you a team? Is it the Cincinnati Bengals or the Cincinnati offense, the Cincinnati defense, the Cincinnati special teams? I just need to know which are you. It is a team. Can I say something before we finish? Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It is a team, huh? It's a team, right? But that team is broken down into three phases. Offense, defense, and special teams. Now, each three of those phases has to do their job in order for you to get a W. You know W's like James Winston? Y'all ain't eatin' none. Y'all hungry.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Oh, we ate something. This is the first time y'all ate in three weeks? Hey. But let me ask you a question. When the playoffs start, which one of the Bengals are going to be in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:30:16 The offense, the defense, or the special team? The whole team, the team in general. Y'all will be home, right? No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Don't do that. They're the chance. Listen, they's a chance. Hey, can you ask Ash the Giver what percentage the chance is of us making it to the playoffs still to this point? Uh,
Starting point is 00:30:32 an 80-year-old getting pregnant. There's a chance. Right. But, Come on, there's a percentage. Now, the percentage ain't that low. There's a percentage
Starting point is 00:30:40 an 80-year-old can get pregnant. I was married when she could see Jesus. 83? 83? There is a chance. Right.year-olds who get pregnant. I was married when she conceived Jesus. 83. 83? There is a chance. Right. They put man on the moon.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah. Yeah. Chance. I feel. You ain't going to put no money down on it, though. Who? Ocho. Me?
Starting point is 00:30:58 How much I owe you right now? Three bands. Okay. How about this? When we play the broncos i ain't betting nothing you ain't listen how you gonna bet me with my money i bet you i owe you three thousand i bet it let's let's bring it down a notch and let's respect the winner let's respect let's respect the winner. Let's respect the winner, Sergleton. That's me. Okay?
Starting point is 00:31:25 That's me. Let's respect the winner, Sergleton. Now. You owe me $3,000. How you the winner? I'm giving you the opportunity to double your money. So when we play the Broncos, let's double or nothing that $3,000 I owe you. I don't like doubling my money.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I like to just take my money. I got something in mind. What you trying to do? I want to buy somebody. What you trying to do? Absolutely. And it's just so happy to call $3,000. The gift I want to get calls exactly $3,000. I said, you hold on.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I said, sir, can you hold this for me? I'll be right back in like two weeks. So I got to go in there by this week. Don't you get it? Hey, hold on. Tell me, tell me, tell me. What you going to get? What you going to get? What you going to get?
Starting point is 00:32:05 What is it? Just give me a guess. The Bengals have less than a 2% chance to make the playoffs. 2%? Less than. Less than 2%? Yes. Actually, it's 1.9.
Starting point is 00:32:18 1.9? You know what? That's not that bad. You know what? That's not that bad. I'm going to just say 2%. Because I bet if you ask the chat right when they go to whole foods i bet some of them they get two percent milk i bet
Starting point is 00:32:31 sometimes when you get a latte you go to starbucks and they ask you what kind of milk you want sometimes people say you know what i want two percent milk there is a significance if you're an actor you know sometimes the agent the agent fee sometimes the agent fee is two percent no it ain't it's 10 15 20 percent of hollywood okay you ain't getting no two percent okay listen i'm just i'm just trying to throw that context i didn't need you to correct me okay bye bye bye bye bye okay but they got a milk chance yeah two percent since since i put it in terms that you will understand right right they got a milkshake yeah two percent uh the question is for you is burrow and chase the best quarterback
Starting point is 00:33:14 wide receiver combo uh absolutely now there there there there are a few people that would like to argue um as far as duos are concerned but but a duo that is doing what they've done at such an early stage as soon as they started they hit the ground running right away obviously because of the continuity that they already bit already had and the chemistry they had already built yeah at lsu together it made the transition into the nfl being on the same team that much easier it made that much that much easier, which is one of the few reasons why the chemistry, it looks the way it does, okay? When you watch Joe Burrow and you watch Jamar Chase work,
Starting point is 00:33:53 that ain't nothing but Prince and Apollonia, okay? That ain't nothing but Mark Anthony and J-Lo, okay? You stand with me? That ain't nothing but Prince Hakeem and the lady, the daughter from McDowell's. I remember the daughter name in the movie. What was the name? OK. Yeah. Yeah. But you get where I'm going. You get what? Yeah. And just it just it's just a match made in heaven. It's a match made in heaven. Like when you meet somebody new one of the key things one of the key things and the only key things that matters is the chemistry and whether you're compatible okay and when you're compatible
Starting point is 00:34:32 your wi-fi the connection is perfect and joe burrow and goddamn jamar chase wi-fi is on point yeah i don't i don't i don't have any other references or analogies I can think of to give people a better understanding on how great they are so early. Chase got 93 catches, Ocho. Yeah. 1,300 yards and 15 touchdowns. Ooh, A-ung. Last year, he's already clear. He's seven catches behind last year's pace.
Starting point is 00:35:03 He's already 100 yards clear of last year's pace. He already has eight touchdowns more than last year. And he has, and he has, they're five and seven. What's their record? Hold on. They're five and eight, so they got four games to go so there's an outside chance he could get to that 1700 mark ocho yeah absolutely absolutely and he might he might get to that 20 that magical number that 20 touchdown mark yeah which only only a handful of guys have ever gotten there yeah jerry and randy yeah not not jerry got 22 randy got 23
Starting point is 00:35:45 nobody else is i mean there have been a few 18 yeah and but nobody there's only two guys that's ever gotten 20 receiving touchdowns in a season yeah and you know that that young bull man is nice man obviously even as early as it is man chases is the greatest banger receiver to ever play chase is the greatest banger receiver to ever play. Chase is the greatest banger receiver to ever don them goddamn stripes. You hear me? You know, some of the things that he's doing, they haven't been done before in that helmet, in that tiger. Ain't nobody never done nothing like that, man.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You know? Mike Brown, you're going to be sorry you didn't sign that man early. Why, who you telling? You hear me? Yeah, you're going to have to pay double. You're going to have to pay double. It's going to hurt. As a matter of fact, you're going to have to pay double. It's going to hurt. As a matter of fact, you're going to have to pay.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, he's about to get $40 million. $40? Make it $42. And the two is the milk. The two is the 2%. Add that shit on, too. He said, Jetta got $35. I want $5 more per year. And I want an extra $20 million guaranteed. Yeah, don't even play
Starting point is 00:36:46 with me. Don't even play because you tried me. You tried me at the beginning of the season. I asked you. You made me sit out of training camp. Yep. And you had plenty of time. You had ample time to understand what you had at your disposal. You know what you get in the long run. You know what you get.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Because I gave you a sample size of three years. Okay? I know I might have two more years on my deal but sometimes you just know that no i got one more now so come on with it huh come on with it you know what to do and if you and if you and hold on if you if you want to play again do me a favor don't franchise tag me let me play one more and let me go show you i can get 60 some i'm not coming there ain't nothing you could do you told me you told me you was gonna take care of me yeah after this one yeah i played it out yeah now you won't see my black ass if you don't if you don't pay me my money this time around period and we ain't fit we ain't gonna play because we from the clock it and i ain't
Starting point is 00:37:39 talking about i ain't talking about no higgins about to bounce on you. So go out there and try to play without me and Higgins. Yeah, period. Shit. So I'm gone. But I do think. You know, T ain't going to be here now. That's my point. One thing about it, T deserves money.
Starting point is 00:37:57 T deserves money. T has played well, you know, barring injuries. He's had a few setbacks here and there. But he deserves that number one money. He's going to get it now. He's going to get it. Hey, he just needs to finish the season healthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Oh, yeah. But I tell you what Jamar Chase has done, he's played himself into Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah. Now, Saquon is still ahead of the pace of Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record. Yes, sir. It's going to be hard for him to overtake
Starting point is 00:38:26 that, especially because of the team that he's playing on. They haven't won enough games. Now, it would be very interesting, Ocho. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, they had had nine wins at this present time. So instead of being, what, five and eight, they would be five, they were nine.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Nine and three or nine and four. Now we got a serious discussion. Yeah, we do. I just don't think he's won enough games. But he's definitely going to get some consideration because he's a triple crown winner. And the last guy that won the triple crown, he was offensive player of the year. That was Cooper Cupp.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And matter of fact, I feel like Keith Lee right now. I feel like Keith Lee right now. That's why I got my hands sitting like this. So right now I'm going to talk serious. I'm not even playing. Jamar Chase is the kind of player, based on what he's done and based on what he's going to do, he deserves Juan Soto kind of money. That's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Man, stop it. Period. All right? No. He is the greatest. Hey, the greatest banger receiver of all time, Jamar Ethelio Chase. He from Louisiana. Okay?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Look, Ocho. Yes, sir. He going to get 160. What did Jetta get? What did Jetta get guaranteed? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We want 200. We want.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Listen to me. Listen to me. Hey, Papa Chase. Papa Chase, I know me hey papa chase papa chase i know you watching papa chase i know you want matter of fact jamal probably watches too oh they everybody be watching that if you're watching the show i know y'all watching listen we ain't negotiating unless we getting 200 matter of fact we want our shit guaranteed too okay we want 200 we want 200 right simply for the fact you just said 140 you,000. You just said $140,000, right? No, $160,000.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Okay, all right. Let's say $160,000. Matter of fact, add another $40,000,000 for the bullshit you pulled on us in training camp. We thought you was going to do a deal. So just make it $200,000. Make it guaranteed. Boom. Done deal.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Matter of fact, four-year $200,000. There it is right there. Matter of fact, by the time we get to $28,000 get to 28, 29, we're going to see you again. We're going to see somebody else, and we're going to hit you all across the head one more time. It don't got to be in Cincinnati. It could be somewhere else. But that's what it is. So Chase, Papa Chase, I done did the deal for us already.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So I already know the numbers on what we're going to get. Let's have at it. I don't need nothing. Just about 1%. 1%. Zach Taylor applause, not just Joe Burrow's physical presence, not just the physical toughness, but the mental toughness in the game, because Zim does that to you.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yeah. As tough as it gets. You know, look, Zim heated him up. He knows the offensive line is banged up. Yeah. First of all,
Starting point is 00:40:58 they're not that good to begin with. And they're banged up. Yeah. So with that being said, you know Zim was going to bring the pressure. Yeah. The problem is, when you bring pressure and you don't get there, that means Chase is one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Mm-hmm. That means he's one-on-one. Yeah. Now, it's one thing, okay, it's one thing to be in position. You got to get him on Ocho. You got to get him on the ground. Got to. You can't let him spin up out of there.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And he hard to tackle too, Arnk. That's the problem. He hard to tackle. There's very few receivers out there with the ball in their hands. Not only are they hard to tackle, they know what to do when they get that ball in their hands. And he's one of them ones.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You know? I just can't receive him. But when he got the ball in his hands, he very slippery. He's very, very slippery. What's up? Ocho, we got a special guest. Now it's time to introduce our special guest.
Starting point is 00:41:51 His album, The Crossroads, is out now. The Crossroads Tour kicks off February 2025. Tickets are on sale now via his official site, CordayMusic.com. Corday, what it do? What up, Uncle Longtime No See. Ocho, what it do, y'all? Oh, what's up, boy? What Corday, what it do? What up, Uncle Longtime, no seat, Ocho What it do, y'all? Oh, what's up, boy? What it do, what? Man, I can't complain, God is good
Starting point is 00:42:10 Both y'all fellas looking clean, man Looking clean right now Love y'all show, by the way, I love it You know, I... Appreciate that, appreciate that So tell us... Go ahead, Ocho I was finna say I took me a little shower
Starting point is 00:42:21 And I shaved my beard Because I knew, you know People was gonna be on here looking at me tonight That's all Oh, that's it, that's it I took me a little shower and I shaved my beard because I knew people was going to be on here looking at me tonight. That's all. Oh, that's it. That's it. I just got a haircut, man. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I've been thugging it out. I've been looking real messed up. But, you know, I'm on nightcap tonight. Let me get a retwist. I was on first take with no retwist. I was like, you know, this is the last time I'm going to do that. I ain't going on nightcap with no retwist. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Tell us a little bit about the album, Crossroad. What does this album entail um i feel like honestly um this is my best body of work by far i know um when i when me you sat down 101 i was telling you how just like i just wanted um honestly my my main theme with this album has just been push that pin push that push that pin and i got great advice from lord wayne he told me he said um you got to treat every song like it's people's first time hearing you like i feel like when you gain a fan base and you gain success as an artist your fan base when you i've been blessed to have a real deal core fan base but that can become a crutch because you're
Starting point is 00:43:20 in the studio you're like oh my fans gonna love whatever the heck i put out you know what i'm saying they're gonna love this regardless versus if you approach every single song like you're making the first impression um it just inspired me just just to push that pin and another saying is just like don't leave nothing else to the judges like i got kanye west yay i got yay you know i'm saying it way twice on the album so it's really blessed to have them and jordan ward anderson pack everybody a part of this so um I'm glad it's out finally man lord what's your favorite song what's your favorite song on the album hmm my favorite song it might be oh six dreaming just because it's so personal it's a story about my mom um my mom she used to make music and stuff
Starting point is 00:44:02 back in the day but she was never able to make it so what i ended up doing was i sampled one of her old songs and i sampled one of her old songs and basically told the story about how like it's a story of irony how my mom was chasing her dream i'm sitting watching her she tried out for like american idols she tried out for making the band all these things but she wasn't able to like you know make it and it's just funny how I didn't even realize that until I was writing this song, how that might have been, not might have, but that definitely instilled, like, something in me, like, you know what, mama? Like, I got us. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, the fact that you grew up in Maryland, right? You're surrounded by passionate fans. Obviously, you had teams like the Ravens, the Orioles, University of Maryland, the Terps. How did the local sports culture, you know, influence you as a kid? And did they in any way shape your competitive drive in music?
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yes, because, you know, PG County, where I'm from is, you know, they call it Basketball County. You know, we got KD, Markel Fultz, Michael Beasley, Delonte West. So many people, I'm forgetting this off the top of my brain right now but so many dope it killed my basketball dreams real early first and foremost because you hooping against dogs every night dogs every night and i had i had a pup in me i ain't gonna lie with you i had a pup in me man so it allowed me to really focus on making music full-time at an early age because i know I had a pup in me, man. And so it allowed me to really focus on making music full time at an early age. I know I have a chance with hoops, man. So on that sport. But as far I mean, Redskins now the commander culture is crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Like I grew up watching the Santana Moss, Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Sean Taylor, R.I.P. Watching you tear us up. You know what I'm saying? Watch you tear us up, Ocho. And even the Wizards, you know, like, love the John Wall, Brad Bill era. So I say all that to say, because, unfortunately, the sports team, you know, Wizards had some good years. We had a couple good years with the Skins.
Starting point is 00:45:59 We had a great year with the Commanders. But because those good years were so few and far between, it was real fans. Like, real deal fans. Like, if you love the Commanders, you don't halfway like them. You love them. Same with the Wizards. You know, right now, we in the rebuilding phase. We got Bilal, you know, doing his thing. We got Alex Saar.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Jordan Poole hooping. You know, so it... I guess growing up, more so of like that... We got Stephon Diggs. you know, so it, I guess growing up more so of like that, um, even football, we got Stefan Diggs, you know, the Diggs brothers, both from Maryland as well. Stefan, he hooped at Maryland at the tournaments as well. So, um, I mean, it's just a real big, like just sports coach out there for sure. Sorry if I went on a tangy. Now you're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. Take your time. Cordae, who are some of your inspirations? Obviously you do what you do,
Starting point is 00:46:45 but who are some of your inspirations when you were growing up and you like, man, I really liked the way they get down musically. Yes. Um, definitely. He's like, well,
Starting point is 00:46:57 it wasn't talking about sports. Cause we seen what happened. You had expiration date. Um, musically, definitely Kanye West. Okay. Definitely Lil Wayne.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Definitely a lot of Nas. A lot of Jay-Z. Damn, you got, you love them heavyweights. I mean, they was unavoidable as a kid. You know what I'm saying? They're unavoidable. And it was just greatness personified. you know what i'm saying unavoidable and it was just greatness personified you know what i'm saying like even having wayne in my corner giving me like the gems that he's
Starting point is 00:47:30 been giving me has been like a huge difference maker like with this album again the work ethic that i'm learning from him and even you know back to the advice i said earlier of him telling me just like push that pin my whole thing is just push that pin push that pin because you got to treat everybody like it's their first time hearing you and your fans that already love you. When you've been acting, treating every song, like nobody's ever heard of you.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Like they're going to be like, this dude is the greatest ever. And people may not have heard of you are more likely to, you know, enjoy the music that you make. So, um, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:59 definitely that that's my, my Rushmore as well, right there for sure. Has parenthood changed how you approach music? I would say parenthood has, uh, has changed my approach and scheduling and how I make music. And,
Starting point is 00:48:14 you know, as a creative, you know, with no kids, I'll be in the studio from like 7 PM to 8 AM next day, 5 PM to 5 AM the next day, 1 p.m. to 5 a.m. The next day, 1 p.m. to 9. So it's like more of a flurry.
Starting point is 00:48:29 But, you know, when you have children, both of y'all have kids, right? I'm sure. Yes. Yeah, I got 15 of them. Yeah. Oh, that's a blessing. Fertility is a blessing, my brother.
Starting point is 00:48:39 That's why God put us on earth. You feel me? But, yeah, so with me, it's like since I had my daughter, it's been more like I'm at the studio every day from 9 a.m.
Starting point is 00:48:50 to 6 p.m. I come home, play with her, put her to sleep and then three days out the week, I go back to the studio once she go to sleep
Starting point is 00:48:57 from like 9 p.m. to 4 a.m. So I still try to get that 70 hour, my goal is to like 70 hours a week in the studio. And again, I usually do my nine hour days, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. So I still try to get that 70 out. My goal is to like 70 hours a week in the studio. And again, I usually do my nine hour days, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. Three days out the week, I go back to the
Starting point is 00:49:13 studio and I take off on Sundays. Right. So, you know, I had a question, right? As a musician myself, you know, as a musician and a lyricist myself, I always think about your body of work and your music and your lyrics. And I just want to ask you, your lyrics often contain a thoughtful mix of introspection and social commentary. Yes, sir. How do you balance being honest and vulnerable
Starting point is 00:49:36 in your music while maintaining your sense of artistry and poetic flair? That's something I've always struggled with as an artist myself, which is why I haven't dropped yet. But go yes sir no i understand that brother i understand that you're just prepping it to make sure we we ready to hear it um you know what i'm saying you gotta make sure we ready for it yes yes you know you know somebody told me this gold don't get old you know what i'm saying like sometimes when it comes to good music
Starting point is 00:50:05 no matter when you release it go one of my biggest songs i released it two years after i recorded it that song triple platinum and so i say all that to say gold don't get old but um to answer your question for me um social commentary you know sometimes in cancel culture i'll be a little i ain't gonna i'll be a little scared to say how I feel like when it comes to like a tweet or something like that. But I've always been a writer and sometimes I can express myself like through words and through, you know, tweets and things of that nature. But I've always found writing as a comfort for me since I was a kid, since I was 10 years old. I've been writing raps every day since I was 10 years old, recording every day since I was 15. And so I say this to say I'm able to get out my thoughtfulness
Starting point is 00:50:50 and, like, I guess my social commentary through my music and then also, like, get through some comedy, you know, through some music because it's funnier when you, if you can make a joke about society or something, but you put a bar, it makes it way funnier you know what i'm
Starting point is 00:51:06 saying like so i i think that's the creativeness of it it's just like finding dope creative ways and entertaining ways that's relatable to everybody but also like saying how you feel you know because artists our job is to decorate time the first hip-hop art we're like the modern age rios this is how you time it's that we'rehop art, we're like the modern-day griots. This is how you time. We're the gatekeepers of time. With that responsibility of just finding cool and creative and dope ways and sometimes even humorous
Starting point is 00:51:33 ways to say how you feel. Cordae, give me your hip-hop Mount Rushmore. Hip-hop Mount Rushmore. You gotta go Wayne. He got a lot of kids in the music business. You gotta go Wayne. Mount got a lot of kids in the music business. You gotta go Wayne. My Rushmore 4, right? That's it.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Okay, this is my personal. Before we say that, I know everybody. My personal. I got Wayne. I got Ye. I got Hove. I got Nas,
Starting point is 00:52:06 that's my four right there. That's four. Okay. That's my four. That's some heavyweights. That's some heavyweights right there. And then Eminem and Kendrick, they on there too.
Starting point is 00:52:16 We got to make more mountains for them too, but that's my Rushmore right there. Wayne, Wayne, Ye, Nas, and Hove. Who haven't you collab with? Give me a dream collab. Someone that you haven't been in studio with that like, man,
Starting point is 00:52:32 I would love. It could be male or female. Someone you'd like to be your dream collab. Ocho. You know, you took the words right out my mouth. You took the words right out my mouth. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'm glad you said it for me, but you said it for me. I'm gonna think of my second. Yeah. Okay. My second option. So my first is Ocho. Um,
Starting point is 00:52:52 my second. Hmm. Can they, can they, can we do dead or alive? I'm going to the grave. Okay. I'm going to the grave.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I'm going to the grave and digging them up. Um, I'm going Marvin Gaye. I love Marvin Gaye. Yeah. I like that. Is Al Green still alive? I think he's still alive. Yes. He is.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I don't know. I think so. I love some Al Green. I'm just going to the folks I sampled because it'll be cheaper than sampling them. I'm not. You guys saying this, folks. Excuse me. Marvin Gaye Al Green and Mike might not I don't know how me and Mike will combine that's that's just the business side of me thinking honestly that's just all business thinking of Mike when he's obviously one of the greatest of all time but yeah Al Green and Marvin Gaye man oh you know Barbarabara mason now i'm going
Starting point is 00:53:45 barbara mason all day wow do you believe do you believe marvin great gay is the greatest r&b singer of all time he from there i gotta say he from maryland too dc just point that out there matter of fact i mean you know before you answer that right and you think about you think about that answer about marvin gay being the greatest R&B singer of all time. Okay. I will say this. For those of you in the chat that have probably never seen it, Marvin Gaye sang the greatest Star Spangled Banner at the 1984 NBA All-Star Game.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I've never, ever heard a Star Spangled Banner sing in that manner, in that type of tone. Unbelievable. I'm not sure if you saw a chord A, but you can do that. Yeah, I did. You did? Oh, man. I got to that mic, got that beat, though. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Forgive me, Ocho. Think so? Yes. Whitney. You going Whitney? Yeah, I was going Whitney at the Super Bowl. Whitney killed that thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah, damn. She did. And recently, I just seen Jasmineivan do it at the mlb oh you know i ain't gonna lie to you i don't watch too much mlb right but i've seen that clip i do love the nationals you know i'm sad as a casual super casual you gotta add the super casual right um jasmine sullivan killed that thing man she did it any anytime i anytime i hear the name jasmine sullivan it always resonates with me with a young lady breaking up with me a long time ago when jasmine sullivan made the song
Starting point is 00:55:11 i was hoping the lady you know when you when you don't want to be with somebody anymore give them grace by letting them you talk to them in their face sometimes via text if you're shy but she left me a voicemail she left me a voicemail playing jasmine sullivan's in love with another man let me know she wanted to leave me for somebody else not only no you know she did that oh was you ultra yeah no i was i was just chad back then oh yeah i was i was just chad back then i ain't really had nothing going on for myself so i kind of understood you know it was someone else that was someone else that could offer her more at the time. Yeah, I'll never forget that.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You know what's funny? That happened to me right before I got on too, Ocho. I ain't going to lie. Somebody left you? Yeah, right before I got on. I ain't going to lie. But I want to say laugh. Did you spin the block?
Starting point is 00:56:01 Did you spin the block? But the block was closed. The block was closed by then. Street signs But the block was closed. The block was closed by then. Street signs, the block's closed. Yellow tape. What's the red color? You have barricades up. Uh-uh, sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:56:13 No, no, this block was closed, for real. Yeah. Bro, I guess we all been through it, man. We all been through it. Yeah, I get happy looking at her Instagram, knowing, mm, mm-mm-mm. it, man. We all been through it. Yeah, I get happy looking at her Instagram knowing, mm, mm, mm, mm. I'm like, man. Dodged it.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Dodged it. That is Cordae. He has a new album that's dropping. It's called Crossroads. It's out now, Crossroads. Yes, sir. His tour kicks off in February. Tickets are on sale now
Starting point is 00:56:41 as his official site, cordamusic.com. Cordae, man, thank you for joining us, man. Continued success, bro. Enjoy the sit down. As always, you're welcome to be a guest on Nightcap anytime you see fit, bro. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I appreciate y'all. I'm going to take you up on that, too. I would like to highlight, too, you know, I was part of Club Shay Shay before Cat Williams. I had my membership before Cat Williams. I just got to put that on there. It was already super lit. It was already in the Williams. I had my membership before Cat Williams. I just got to put that on there. It was already super lit. It was already in the mood. I just like to put it out. I was an
Starting point is 00:57:09 early member of Club Shea Shea. My car is still good. Absolutely. Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Congratulations on the young one. Continue success, my brother. Thank y'all for having me. I'll see y'all soon. Yes, thank you. I appreciate you as well, Ocho. Thank you all for having me. Honored to be here.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I'll see you all soon. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That is Cordae. Album Crossroads is out now. Tour kicks off in February. Go to cordamusic.com to cop your tickets. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 01:00:44 podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply
Starting point is 01:01:38 into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and me, now on Audible. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.
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Starting point is 01:02:53 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe, all apparently is not well with the Eagles. According to Brandon Graham, the team's longest tenured member, the relationship between Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown is strange. The person that's complaining, Brown, needs to be accountable. I'm just being
Starting point is 01:03:29 honest. He knows this. I don't know how the whole story, but I know that Hurts is trying and Brown could be a little better with how he responds to things. They're friends before, but things have changed. Graham later apologized, said, I made a mistake. I didn't add to it in good light, so that's my bad.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I think that, see, here's the thing. Yes, sir. When you say, when they ask A.J. Brown, what do you need to improve in? Passing. Who's the only one that can throw the ball, Ocho? Yeah, the quarterback. The quarterback.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Jalen Hurst. So how is the media, how is everybody going to take that? Well, that's not how he meant it. Yeah. If they ask Carson, what can we do better? Route running and getting open? Who are you talking about? Yeah, he talking about me.
Starting point is 01:04:19 But that's not how he meant it. Right, right. But listen, we all know what he meant. We understand his frustration. We understand his gripes. All right, A-O. Matter of fact,
Starting point is 01:04:28 A-Ocho, Ocho, you know Ocho, right? Yeah. FS1 Ocho? Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:35 Ocho. Listen, if any of you in the chat that have followed him, I don't know if you've had an opportunity to see it. And Sean, he showed a description of plays,
Starting point is 01:04:43 a description of plays. And these are bang, bang plays that are just basic fundamentals of the game of football having anticipatory skills as a quarterback at the quarterback position being able to get your number one your number one player to target based on what you see what your pre-read is as a quarterback and i listen it was five or six plays where one, two, three, boom, get the ball out and let it go. You know, it's like in that specific game that we talking about, where I could understand where the frustrations come from with A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I'm like, well, okay, now I see it. Now I see it. Now I understand. But you don't do it the way you did it. Not with the media. That's something you go to your quarterback. You go to your quarterback. You tell him, you put that.
Starting point is 01:05:21 That's all I'm saying. I need you to do me a small favor. A.J. Brown, if you see this, this is, I need you to do me a small favor. A.J. Brown, if you see this, I need you to do me a small favor. Young Bull, when we come to the line of scrimmage and you see a certain cover and you see that receiver off, if you see him press at any point and you see that safety and the safety is in the middle of the field or he's shaded just a little bit to the hash and I know I can beat him over top,
Starting point is 01:05:41 I need you to give me a chance. I need you to give me a chance. I need you to give me a chance. Please. Put him aside. Have that conversation, but don't do it this way. Because now all eyes on Jalen Hurts. Now all eyes in the pressure. While you're winning, you're winning.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Let me add that. Your team is winning. That's the key. And it's going to come off. It comes off as being selfish. It comes off as being selfish. It's going to be a little bit, you know. And I don't think he's selfish. Oh, hell no, but he doesn't. I think he's a competitor.
Starting point is 01:06:12 He wants to contribute. I think he realizes that in order for us to get to where we need to be, I'm going to have to catch more than three or four balls. Devontae's going to have to catch more than three balls. But like you said, maybe Jalen just didn't see the field yesterday. Maybe that happens. Sometimes, Ocho, we don't see the ball well. We bobble some stuff,
Starting point is 01:06:33 but we don't catch it clean like we want to. But Jalen has a tough job. I'm not trying to excuse him, but I just believe in a situation like that. He can be handled. I'm going to go to him and have him. Check this out, Ocho. Donovan McNabb weighed in on A.J. Brown's potential frustration with Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's two grown men. If you got an issue, you come to me. Let's not go through the media because now it blows up, and now what you said is out there in front of everybody. NTO responded. Yeah. Now, this is interesting, coming from you. Now, not how I interpret it, but it's funny thing is,
Starting point is 01:07:09 I agree with you on the idea of it. If you have an issue with someone that you go to them, not the media. But here's the thing. I never had an issue with you. But it's known that you had an issue with me. So maybe you should have taken your own advice here. Oh, yeah. And we might have won the Super Bowl 39 but that's another story for another day just my two cents number
Starting point is 01:07:32 317 you talk about the jacket you gave yours I'm giving mine like that hey them boys still going through it right hey you know what they hey hey hey to to and uh goddamn mcnab they're gonna be like claude and they're gonna be like claude and ray no they're gonna be they're gonna be the hatfield and the hatfields and the mccoys i like it they ain't claude and ray because claude and ray was best friends they argued a lot but they were the absolutely best friends they have i like it to has a point too to has a point obviously I don't I don't know the intricate details of the situation back then I heard bits and pieces of it obviously T.O. and I have talked in depth during that time yes you know yeah obviously in the offseason about what
Starting point is 01:08:15 happened I can't remember the date obviously it's been it's been a while since then but you know listen you got to keep it in the house the best the best way you can I understand A.J. Brown's frustration as a competitor that's someone that wants to be a part the house the best way you can. I understand A.J. Brown's frustration as a competitor. That's something that wants to be a part of the game. Let me, Unc, you know how it is when you don't touch that ball, Unc. You know how it is. Yeah. Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Did you watch the Bengals game, right? You watched the Bengals game tonight, right? Yeah. What was the first play of the game from the Bengals? Yeah, you got to give the ball to your playmaker. What's the first play they ran? Mm-hmm. Get a chase.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Let him touch the ball. Boom. You already did. If you give it to him ran? Get a chase. Let him touch the ball. Boom. You already... If you give it to him early, you'll have him late. You'll have him late. You ain't got nothing to worry about. Something simple. It wasn't nothing but a little screen route, a little smoke route. You good. He just needs the ball in his hand. Bingo. That's it. They don't get it together, though,
Starting point is 01:08:59 because they win it right now. They win it right now. Number 26, he's taking some of the pressure off Jalen Hurst. He's taking some of the pressure off Jalen Hurst. He's taking some of the pressure off Jalen Hurst where he doesn't have to do so much at the quarterback position. And when the time comes and they need number 11 and they need number six, they're going to be there. But it's hard for Jalen too, Ocho,
Starting point is 01:09:21 when you don't get in a rhythm throwing the ball and then all of a sudden in the third quarter, the fourth quarter late in the ball game, you asking me to go make plays, I haven't gotten into a rhythm. Quarterbacks need to get in the rhythm also. That's why they give them things early. I'm going to give you a stomp route. I'm going to give you an out.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm going to give you a slam. I'm going to give you something easy. I'm not throwing to go to first play of the game, Ocho. But I'm going to work my way into it, work my way into the rhythm. And so, therefore, as the game goes on, I feel good about the calls and the throws, the potential I'm going to have to make. But they're going to have to figure this thing out. You're not going to win.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I don't believe that the Eagles can go to where they want to go to with Jalen Hurst throwing the ball 19 times. I don't have it 120 yards, 130 yards. That ain't going to happen. That's when I'm playing against the better teams. Especially when you play against the better teams. When you play against the better teams, the play calling has to change. The play calling
Starting point is 01:10:16 has to change because some of the yardage that you're going to need, some of the drives that you're going to need, those huge chunk plays are going to come in handy. You're not going to be able some of the drives that you're going to need. Those huge chunk plays are going to come in handy. You're not going to be able to play the goddamn field 90 yards every goddamn time. Saquon is not going to be able to hit his head off the goalpost
Starting point is 01:10:31 when you play against better defenses all the goddamn time. You know, it's different. Sometimes your quarterback has to outplay the opposing team's quarterback. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. He throw for 315. You need to throw for 330. You know what?
Starting point is 01:10:47 I need to ask. I don't know if Ash can hear me. Ash, if you can hear me, can you do me a favor? And on Emmanuel Acho's page, can you send Ankh that video of the few plays? Plays. Yeah, yeah. It's very interesting. It's all 22.
Starting point is 01:11:04 It's all 22. So you can see clear as day, like, how are you missing these throws? Like, how are you missing it? And just from pre-snap alone, the ball right there. So I'm looking at almost 50 yards. 50 yards added on to what he already had in the game. You know, I think he had 34, 43, whatever it might have been. But he had a 100-yard game based on those simple plays that I saw with the ball the boy had to do. Get the ball in his hands and get it out.
Starting point is 01:11:29 So I kind of understood the frustration in A.J. Brown after seeing that breakdown from Acho. I'm like, God damn, I didn't know it was that bad. As a player who played the game, I get it, but you can't do it that way. That's not the way you go about it, especially not through the media. You know, the media messy. The media is like going to the blogs. Yeah, you know, the media is like going to the blogs. You know, not
Starting point is 01:11:53 everybody in your business. All over your business. The 49ers had a big win on Sunday, Ocho against the Bears, but Deebo Samuels did not have a big game. Deebo was held a two-catcher for 22 yards in the big win against the bears continuing his disappointing season in which he's averaging career, career lows and catches per game yards per game.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But Debo took the social media today and say, nothing is wrong, not struggling at all. Just not getting the ball. Debo quickly added another post. He's not in any way criticizing his teammates just cause I voiced my opinion. Um,
Starting point is 01:12:24 I'm not hating on any of my teammates. Be for real. Yeah. I mean, listen, around the league, when injuries happen, it affects everybody. From top to bottom, it affects the entire team. Offensively, it hasn't been the same. Christian McCaffrey is out.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I mean, it's just... Jordan Mason's out. You lost your two-time running back. You're down to your third running back. Yeah. I mean, this is what happens. This is what happens. And, you know, people.
Starting point is 01:12:46 T-Dub is out. T-Dub. I don't know if T-Dub was back, but I think he had a situation here, a family situation. Yeah, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. When things aren't going well, this is what happens. Players struggle.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Fans talk trash because they don't look like they did the previous year. You know, Devo is still Devo there's nothing wrong with him there's nothing wrong with them all it's just the floor of the offense is just not going in his favor hell the floor of the offense in general isn't going in the 49ers favor for that matter right so you know maybe next year they'll be all right and and that's it because you don't you don't fall off a cliff like that. And I need the casual fans that are talking trash about Devo not playing well this year. Well, for obvious reasons, all right? For obvious reasons. It's not that easy.
Starting point is 01:13:35 The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. Small but important ways. From tech billionaires to the bond market to yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators
Starting point is 01:14:46 shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
Starting point is 01:14:57 There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
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