Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Best of Life Advice - relationships, respect & money

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson enlighten us on hard work and respect being the number one currency. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss how to deal with issues between your significant other and your family, debate how to handle money and relationships and much more!03:14 - Shannon always shows a level of respect. Respect is the No. 1 currency.09:00 - Shannon moves Ocho to tears with this advice11:10 - Shannon tells Dallas live audience to put in work to succeed14:30 - You think you’re doing everything right, but God knows your heart - Shannon Sharpe14:57 - People think they’re above hard work nowadays. “I’ve never been too proud to work hard”20:06 - Not one thing is worth your life. Ocho dropping some wisdom.26:02 - Weddings cost way too much nowadays. You shouldn’t be getting married if you charge guests for their plate.33:41 - Dallas audience asks Shannon when he’s going to settle down.35:49 - Shannon and Ocho discuss Adrian Peterson’s financial situation.43:41 - How to deal with mothers and your significant other butting heads53:11 - Ocho and Shannon discuss money and relationships01:01:37 - Should you take a job before knowing contract details?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't go everywhere because everything ain't for Shannon to be. Everybody ain't happy for Shannon. But I do give, when I'm out and I'm not in an environment that I'm familiar with, I show everybody a level of respect. Because if you don't, they'll come get you.

Because the number one thing in the streets is respect. That's the number one currency. You think it's money. No, it's respect. They'll chop your head off if you're disrespectful. And don't think nothing about it. Because I

see them, hey, they come in the barbershop or whatever let me holler at you hold on broad daylight man broad daylight get out of here man get your ass out there

I've seen too many examples over the years too many examples too many examples over the years. Too many examples. Too many. Man, look here. At the Pasha, I wish Pasha passed away.

He has to have a car wash on 37th and 37th and Bull. Dude Slim, a little young kid came up there. They got to tussle it. He beat the little boy up for about probably about 12, 13. He came back. He came right back with his mom. He said, mom, there you go.

Mom handed him that tool. To the little boy? Wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop. His mom gave him the tool. The little boy? Yeah. Yeah, you see that? His mom gave him the tool. The little boy? Yeah. Yeah, you see that?

Yes, sir. You see how I got a body that don't choke? You see what I did? Yeah. Man, hey. Right. Everybody don't have the guidance that you and I had. I had a praying grandmother. My grandmother guided us,

tried to teach us right from wrong. Hey, it was all right, son. It's, you know, hey, be respectful. Yes, sir. No, sir. It's okay. You're wrong. You're wrong. Accept accountability. But everybody ain't like that.

You got some parents out there, got some dads and some, hey. They telling their kid, hey, they telling the kid hey, you going, man, stop. It ain't like it was when I was growing up. Oh, we fall. We knuckle up. We fall. Hey, you, hey, P,

I see you. Oh, in between fourth and fifth period. I told you back then, back then, obviously during your time and during my time it kind of, it coincides a little bit when it comes to the other side of the street. Outside of the game of football, there was still structure and discipline. It was still there was still structure and discipline, even on that side of the ball. Obviously, even though we didn't we didn't play that side.

But still. There was a reason behind something happening. There was a reason behind it. You ain't just doing it all willy-nilly just to say, oh, you know what? I'm hungry. I ain't got no money. I'm going to go take this nigga shit. No. No. Oh, Joe.

When we were growing up, you would never talk back. You didn't talk back to someone's mom or grandma you was never disrespectful I couldn't even imagine talking disrespectful to someone

even if they just 5 10 years older than me let alone somebody my grandma age somebody my mom's age I wouldn't have been here on somebody, somebody my grandma age, somebody my mom's age, I wouldn't have been here. Man, granted,

Mary and Barney Porter would have beat the bricks off us. Them people didn't play that, but you would respect when there's a certain level of respect. You could go to people's houses and get a meal. My grandma didn't play that either. You ain't going to nobody's house.

Hey, my grandma didn't play that. You want some, son? No, man. We just ate. Hungry to the mug. I ain't lying to y'all. Me and my brother be hungry to the mug. You better not say yeah.

Man, Ocho, I ain't going to lie. Ocho, I be so hungry every time I swallow. My stomach say, thank you. Ain't nothing coming down. Right. But, hey, you ain't go to people's house to eat. Get away till you get back home. Hey, you get some bread.

Hey, you maybe have mayonnaise sandwich or ketchup sandwich, something like that. You got no meat. Hey, you did a syrup sandwich before? You want the bread up? Oh, syrup sandwich. You fold it up and dipped it in the syrup? Yeah, of course. Yes.

Yeah. Ketchup sandwiches, mayonnaise sandwiches, syrup sandwiches. Yes. Okay. Yes, sir. Always. But there was a level of respect that kids have for adults. And I don't know what happened. And I think the generation you started having parents started getting younger and younger.

And the kids were they were so close in age. Yeah. And kids started getting more and more disrespectful. And parents didn't correct them. Your generation, my generation, was the definition of it takes a village. And that village did exactly what they were supposed to do. Now, aren't the generation we're in now? What?

Nah. You can't correct nobody's kid. It's always somebody else's fault. Let me ask you a question if your kid disrespectful at home and you the parent or you the grandparent what the hell you think gonna happen when he

and she is not around you if they disrespectful to you you think they gonna go to them people's school and be respectful you think they gonna be respectful on somebody's job a lot of times we'll give up on a woman

that has 80, 85%, 90% of what we want, only to be with somebody that has 10 to 20% of what we want. You ever notice that, Ocho? I'm done. Hold on, hold on.

Ocho, it ain't time. It ain't time, Ocho? I ain't got... Hold on, hold on. Ocho, it ain't time. Ocho, it ain't time. Ocho, it ain't time. It ain't time, Ocho. It ain't time. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Listen, I don't ask you for much.

I don't ask you for much, but I need you to bring that back one more time. I need you to bring that back one more time, because I've... Boy, I felt that, boy. You don't see me tearing up?

But that ain't funny, man. Do me a favor. I promise I ain't gonna cry. I promise I ain't gonna cry, but bring that back one more time. A lot of times, men will leave a woman that has 80 to 90%

of what we want only to go be with somebody that has 10 to 20%. You see that? We'll get mad at the woman. She got 80 to 90% of what we want. We get mad. Here come the 10 to 20. I need that.

I promise you ain't crying. These are tears of joy. I need that. I promise you ain't crying. These are tears of joy. I need to hear that boy. Hey. Oh shit. That was a good one boy. It happened. I've done it. A lot of times with y'all

I don't tell you things that somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. Because a man will get mad and I don't know if women do it. I can't speak because I don't know. I don't know you things that somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. Because a man will get mad. And I don't know if women do it. I can't speak because I don't know. I don't know how you guys think. But I'm just telling you how a man will think, how I thought. Man.

Hey, boy, that was a good one, boy. It ain't even Sunday, but you're preaching, though. Shit, got me crying. Shit. Fuck. Wrong with me. Okay, let me tighten up let's go back to the show what does it take to be a great sports analyst like yourself work um you have to become selfish you have to become obsessed you have to give up a lot. People, everybody says, okay, I want to get into the sports industry, the sports business. But when the sports come on, they don't just come on Mondays.

They don't just come on Tuesdays. They come on on the weekends. What do people like to do on the weekends? But if you want to be great at this, you've got to watch. You've got to study. You see, everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. The Bible says you can't enter there

without going through that process. You want to be great. People want to be great at a driven craft, but don't want to put the time or the effort in to be great at it and then get mad when it doesn't work out. Don't be mad for the results that you didn't get, for the work you didn't put in.

It is no secret. Only in the dictionary does success come before work. That's the only place you'll see that. I understand. I'm selfish. Probably why I'm still alone at 56. Probably should have gotten married a lot earlier.

But I was so obsessed with getting my grandmother and my family out of the environment. Unless you grew up like I grew up, imagine a thousand square foot cinder block, cement floors, where you got to spray. You've seen a mechanic shop where they have to spray water on the floor to keep the dust down that's how I grew up with no indoor plumbing no running water you think I wanted to live like that for the rest of my life you think I wanted my kids I didn't want my kids to have one hour in a day like I had let alone a lifetime and I neglected and I sacrificed a lot of people. And when I told my kids, I'm not here to apologize for that.

Because I got you to a place that you never would have gotten without it. You're starting at third base. When your daddy started in the stands, I didn't even have a bat to go to the plate yet. What are you willing to sacrifice? You see, people will always write down their goals in the left column. How many times people write down there what they're willing to sacrifice in the right column? What are you willing to sacrifice to be the great sports analyst that you asked me about? What are you willing to give up?

What are you willing to go without? Only then, when I train, when I work out, train, if you don't ask yourself, when is this over? How much longer? Why am I doing this? Where do I go from here? Why are you doing it? Why are you doing it? That's it. If you want to be great at something, you got to sacrifice something. You don't catch a lion without sacrificing a goat. So what are you willing to sacrifice to get to what you want? Thank you.

But that's why people wonder why they don't get the blessings that someone else ask yourself so you think you're doing everything right but see God know your heart so you can fool everybody else but you can't fool that man upstairs and you wonder why ask yourself

ask yourself when you're alone and you by yourself oh I like such and such but it's in here can't fool that man you can fool us you know people don't want to where everybody's gotten above working man i ain't working on no damn or not mcdonald's that's beneath i ain't doing this job that's beneath me so So let me go take somebody else to work hard for. Let me go take that up off them. And then

when it ends, he ain't have to do him like that. He ain't have to shoot him. He ain't have to kill him when you ain't have to take that man's shit. When you robbing somebody, when you doing harm to somebody,

harm to somebody, whatever happens, happens Ocho. You know that Ocho, you know that's us now. He didn't have to do it like that. How you had to do it? Oh yeah.

Yeah, always. Man, go ahead and get you a job. I'm glad Ocho, you know what I'm glad? I've never been too proud to work hard people try to make me feel bad man you working in them fields you getting tall in you because i mean you know you get tall on your hands you got tar in your hair you out there getting black i ain't never been too i've never been too proud to work hard man give me an honest

day salary i give him an honest day's work. I can honestly say I ain't never took nothing off nobody. Okay, I hit my grandma up a couple times for 50 cent dollars, but you know, I gave him... Yeah, I hit Granny up, but I think she forgave her, baby.

I think I made good on that, Ocho. But that's just me. And the biggest mistake that I've made a large portion of my life, Ocho, is that I think everybody thinks like me. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to go out there and work hard. I ain't going to take nobody else's issue. I'm going to go out here and do the right thing.

I ain't going to do that. People look and think it's just the opposite. Just the opposite. It is. You know, times are different now. Times are different now. Everybody want that fast life. Everybody want

that Instagram lifestyle. It really ain't too many jobs that can provide that lifestyle you see on Instagrams all the time. It's only one way to get that. You know what I mean? If you ain't on that goddamn field of that basketball court, hell, it's only one other route to attain that type of lifestyle and luxury. Yeah. yeah unless you a rapper

or something entertainment or something you doing something because ain't nobody that's working that's worth money posting that money like that

no cause I mean you post too much they gonna come get it now they gonna come see what you buy the more time you invest in something the more it hurts that's why people you see people when they invested a lot in a relationship

10 15 years and it hurts I'm sending flowers I'm writing I'm not saying me but I'm saying they're sending flowers they're writing they're buying gifts because they don't want it in because they're invested. And then you see people, they go on there like, I wouldn't even with that person,

because they didn't give a damn from the beginning. They weren't investing. When you invest in something, it hurts. I don't care what it is. When you put time in it, when you invest it. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming,

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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago,

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You can buy another Rolex. You can buy another chain. If someone's trying to take your car, you can buy another car. Anything. If you are at gunpoint, you give up those possessions. I don't think they pulled a gun out of him first, Ocho, because I believe he gave it up like you said. I think he probably tried to strong arm and got

the tussling. Yeah. Shit. Yeah, see, don't do that. You only get one shot. This ain't a video game. If somebody come up to you and they ain't got no gun, they ain't got no knife, and they say, Ocho, give it up. You taking it off that freely?

Then you have to... Yes! I'm not playing. Why am I playing tough? Why? Why play tough? Listen to me. If somebody come up to you and say, let me get whatever it is off of you,

you already know they holding. No, I'm going to say, go out and get a job. You already know they holding. Why even play that game? Yeah, man, hell, you can take this shit. I can buy this again.

Go get a job. I can't. This ain't Call a job. I can't, I can't, this ain't Call of Duty. I can't revive myself. I don't get a second chance at life. Mainly, Ocho, like I said, the man, he's got an autograph signed at Ocho, so I'm pretty sure

it's probably in a probably in a fairly nice area. I mean, I've done a few autographs signed, and it ain't really no shady places. Right, right, right. Yeah. But you know, it don't matter where you're at. It don't matter where you're at.

He probably, Jit probably knew he was there and waited until after the signing to confront him. Let me ask you a question. You think that 17-year-old going to run up and say, hey, Trent, give it up? Yeah. Exactly. that's my point but i i get what you're saying no joke um try not to put myself in that situation you're right you're absolutely 1000 right uh yeah i mean i've myself in that situation. You're right. You're absolutely 1,000% right.

Yeah, I mean, I've been in that situation but I didn't turn around. I took his word for it. He said, you already know what it is. Hey, bro, my wallet in the car. I ain't got nothing else. Hey, I ain't got nothing. I don't want no problem. That's what stopped me from taking, carrying cash

around like that, Ochocho I used to always carry cash anybody that knew me when I was younger Ocho if you ever saw Sheldon Shaw with less than 10 bands on it call the cops somebody just robbed it right around the corner I kept it on me but then I was like man

for what I'm like, man, for what? I'm inviting trouble? Yeah, you're right. You know, half the people, you can understand who really doesn't value their life. I can see the comments. I can see the comments. And you can tell who really don't value their life. I can see the comments. I can see the comments and you can tell who really don't value their life about

dumbass jewelry or chains or shit that really holds no true value. Just by the comments. Man, folk don't care, man. Nah, you're right. They swear. Listen, you don't get two of these. You don't get

two of these. You can't revive yourself. It ain't, you can't get two of these you don't get two of these you can't revive yourself it ain't you can't press start you can't play now hell man take this shit cause you know the funny thing you take my shit you're gonna be mad anyway when you try to go pawn to the seller cause it ain't real no way

hey bro hey yo fella go ahead and take this I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can. Yeah. Man, go on about your business, man. I'm trying to get home to these goddamn 85 kids, buddy. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that, Ocho. I told him.

I get it. You're right. I mean, you're right, Ocho. I ain't. You ain't wrong when you're right. And you're right. You ain't wrong when you're right, Ocho're right. You ain't wrong when you're right, Ocho. Just, hey, little young fella have it.

And he's been dealing with it. He's been dealing with some injuries. It's been kind of hard for him to get on the field, Ocho, because he's been nicked a lot. And then this happened. Man, he probably thinking like, Lord, I mean, you done blessed me, but I got buzzed up right now. Because what's going on? And it's like,

bro, like I said, but that's 17-year-old? Nah, bro, you ain't no juvie. I got to put real charges on you because you doing a real adult crime. Yeah. Yeah. Yes! And think about it. He hit him in the chest.

Right? And God obviously has favor Ricky is okay now what happened if he wasn't okay what happened if he had passed away you know and I'm thinking like we don't really value life

we don't really value life until we lose somebody close to us we don't really value life until it happens to us great we don't really value life until it happens to us always and then everybody favorite line is oh you messed the city up with this one oh but no i'm reading the comments everybody tough oh you were easy lick but it you never value it until it either happened to you or somebody close to you. And then it's a, oh, damn, you fucked the city up with this one, twin. Damn.

I just talked to you the other day. Yeah. I just, everybody trying to get that lick though, Ojo. You know, everybody trying to hit a lick. Ojo, he going to talk about we done spent close to $150,000, $200,000. Y'all are damn fools. You ain't got it. If you got to charge for a wedding,

your ass shouldn't be getting married. I wish I might pay for somebody to go to somebody's wedding. Hold on, you gonna charge everybody $450 to try to recoup the money that you paid for the wedding, which it shouldn't even be that much. It shouldn't be $100, try to recoup the money that you paid for the wedding, which it shouldn't even be that much. It shouldn't be $100 to... Excuse me.

Excuse me if I'm wrong. Chat, y'all help me out. Please give me an amount on how much a wedding should cost. Let's start there. I want to break it down into parts. How much should a wedding cost? You know better than me, Unc.

I'm just asking you. Bojo. Bojo. Bojo. wedding cost you know better than me i'm just asking you oh joe oh joe the car the question is how much how bad you want to impress somebody and that'll dictate the cost of your wedding right you see they don't spend 200200,000. Now, unless her daddy worth about $10,000, $15,000, $20,000, $30,000 million, I wish my daughters would come to me and talk about y'all better take this money for a down

payment on the house and get y'all ass on up out of here. I'll come stand beside you in the court just for the peace. So $200,000, that's too extravagant. That's way too much for a wedding. But listen. What?

For a wedding? They just coming to be nosy, huh? And half the people that don't even like the groom or the bride and don't help. Man, I wish I might. So, Chad, help me out, Chad. Please give me the numbers. Listen, Unc, you don't even know I'm playing the C right now.

I keep asking you for a reason now. Yeah. But, Ocho, here's the thing, Ocho. Normally, the father, I got two daughters. They already know. My daughters already say, oh, if you think my daddy going to pay X, Y, and Z, that ain't happening. Destination wedding if you want to, okay.

I wish I might pay $400 to go to somebody else's wedding. Yeah, y'all go see Chris Brown. And then he go, somebody else's wedding. Yeah. Oh yeah. Y'all go see Chris Brown. And then he, he got to stop counting my pockets. Oh, y'all pay, spend money on frivolous stuff. That's my money.

Don't worry about what I spend my money on. Right. I just, I just ain't spending $450 to go to no wedding. So if I want to take $450, if I want to take $4,000 to buy a Beyonce450, if I want to take $4,000 to buy a Beyonce ticket, if I want to take $10,000 to buy a Beyonce ticket,

or go to the Super Bowl, that ain't none of your business. Support family and friends means I'm going to show up. Okay? If you got a business, let's say, Ocho, you got a restaurant. Okay. I ain't coming to eat free. I'm going to pay for my meal. I'm going to tip the

servers. If you got a business where you selling t-shirts or clothing, I support you. But if you think for one second, I'm going to pay $450 to go see your funky ass wedding, man, you out your mind. The chat, I didn't see nothing

over 50 grand. I'm reading the chat and everybody in the chat said 50 didn't see nothing over 50 grand. I'm reading the chat and everybody in the chat said 50 grand is a max for a wedding. Now, when it comes to weddings, I love the fairy tale ending. I love little girls that are raised, you know, watching movies and being taught and groomed into that happy ending and actually making that come true, and living that dream, or living that fairy tale, but at what cost, and in today's era, today's era of women, and aesthetics, and social media, like, do women really want to be, do they want to have weddings? I think they want to have weddings, they don't want to be, they don't want to be married, I think that, I think they want to have weddings. They don't want to be married. I think that's the disconnect.

They like the weddings, the aesthetics, the pretty, the changing outfits, but they don't like what actual marriage entails. There's a difference. I would break it down right now, but I'm not going to break it down because we don't have that kind of time. The more extravagant the wedding, the shorter the wedding, the shorter the marriage. The more extravagant, the short,

go look at all those Hollywood stars that spent all that money, $1,500,000, $200,000, and see how long they stayed. Now go look at the ones that had the little quaint wedding that went to the church or they went to justice or the peace.

Because you got a big ass wedding. Man, I know a dude who had a homeboy man joke, got married, custom suit, custom gator shoes. Hey, you would marry what how long was married by the long as a snowball in the microwave along with a snowball in the microwave how long man please paying all that money $200,000 for what what are you paying $200,000 for Ojo what I'm just trying to figure

what you written out the Taj Mahal what you written out the White House what y'all eat caviar lobster man please that's a great topic because I have no idea on how much weddings actually cost. And the funny thing about it is I keep asking purposely because you already know who is doing all the planning. And I'm curious to what that bill going to look like.

Because we ain't going too far now. We're going right to the Bahamas. We ain't going there. I mean, that's a 30 minute flight hey I gave my daughters a budget you got a budget whatever you do after that

okay so you can have a wedding with 30,000 30,000 I don't know what you can have I ain with 30,000? 30,000. I don't know what you can have. I ain't the one getting married. I don't give a damn. Hey, they better go get one of them fried.

Hey, hey, hey, y'all from the south. Y'all know about that fried catfish and spaghetti plate? Hey, I know somebody who hooked that thing right on up. What they charge by the plate? $10.50 a head. Spaghetti, fried catfish, a piece of cornbread, and a styrofoam cup of sweet tea. That's all you're getting. Hey, Ocho. What up, Twain?

Hey, Ryo. Shout out to Ryo. I'm an entrepreneur and a former track athlete as well. Okay. All right. This is for Unc. Okay. With much success and being surrounded by love, how soon are you looking to find a balance

in your life? Because you do believe that men and women need each other, correct? I do. And we're not made and you are a believer that we're not made to go out through this thing called life without our partner so how soon are you looking to find that balance to settle down and find your life partner to be honest with you that's probably one of my greatest regrets. That through this process, I really haven't had a whole lot of people to share it with.

If I had to do it over again, I probably would do it a little different. Probably should have met someone. Look, I had some opportunities, but things didn't work out. God didn't make any mistakes. We ain't going to do shoulda, coulda, woulda. How soon in the future are you looking to find that balance?

You shooting? I wish. You shooting? I wish. You shooting? Come on now, Kobe. I wish, honestly, I wish I could give you a definitive answer that I could say, you know what? In six months, in a year,

a year and a half. He's talking about tonight. Oh, I was a ball player too. If I was shooting, you would know. Okay. My bad. My bad. He's available. Man, my daughter here.

Come here. Hey! Hey! She's gorgeous. So if he is looking, they need to be age appropriate. They have to be older than me, so I'm 55. Adrian Peterson, who earned more than $100 million during his 15-year NFL career, he now faces a debt in excess of $12 million, and he's been ordered to turn over his assets to pay for it.

According to the USA Today, a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property to satisfy for it. According to the USA Today, a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property to satisfy the debt. Constables have been ordered to seize assets from his home. A court-appointed receiver has accused Peterson of playing a shell game in order to avoid

payment. Ocho. Ocho. Man, Joe. Oh, Joe, man. AP. Bro, you made $100 million. And then he borrowed, I think he borrowed like $5 million in like two years to interest. So when you borrow money like that, you got to play like 20, 25% interest, Ocho. So it went from $5 million to like $8 million in three years.

It might be 50% interest. Ocho. But then you throw a birthday party and you fly everybody. I wish I might have a birthday party. And I fly y'all in to come to my party? Where they do that at he got camels he got tigers dude thought he was talking for real man it's listen I you you know how I am the chat know hell the goddamn world know how I am when it come to finances. And I don't play that.

I don't play that. Listen, him being in this situation is very unfortunate. I wish him well and hoping everything turns out in his favor. I'm not sure how this works. He ain't going to turn out in his favor. He owe $12 million. And in front of the looks of it, he ain't got it.

Yeah. I hope so. I hope he does. I hope he has some. I hope he has some. How you take out a loan to throw yourself a birthday party? You better go down there and get about five or six dozen crabs

and some shrimp and say, here you go. Who takes out a loan to throw themselves a birthday party unless you're what? Trying to impress the party goers. I don't know. That's crazy, man. A hundred?

Damn, man. Ocho, how you... Ocho how you Ocho you throw a birthday party and you bring in what he flying 300 people 300 guests he flew in 300 guests I don't know 300 people if I'm

56 I don't know 300 people and I damn sure don't know enough of people to fly the ass to a Myovint. Man, you think I know 300 buckets or 300 burns?

Hell no. That's messed up, man. He flew in 320 people. Ocho, check this out, Ocho. Yeah. But guess how he flew him? First class.

Oh, oh. Is there any way? Oh, can't he just file bankruptcy? Hey, if you ain't got no money, it's hard to file bankruptcy if you ain't got no money. Because guess what? Your credit going to be shot.

So what you going to put up for collateral? Damn. I mean, like the more people you say, hey, can we get this? The more women you say, what, I'm going to get it with ass and mouth? We ain't got no money. What am I going to pay with it for? What am I going to pay with it? What am I going to pay to get what you're asking for?

So if he doesn't have, the thing is, the best thing to have if you don't have money is to have great credit. You can have F-ed up credit if you got money. You see how that works? Yeah. Boy, enough people don't care. And think about it. Anytime you try to buy something, what are they going to do? They're going to pull them credit scores.

Credit scores? Equifax, Empyrean. What's the other one? Experian. So at this point in general. They got three of them. Now, some might be a little higher than the other one but I feel very good mine all

start with eight I ain't gonna tell you what else they got you know what comes after that but I feel very comfortable all three of mine start with eight right but okay but I got a little bit of money I ain't saying I'm the richest man in the world but I got great credit and I do have a little cash of money. I ain't saying I'm the richest man in the world, but I got great credit, and I do have a little cash.

But I'm not doing anything to impress anybody. I'm not buying no $10 million home. I'm not buying no million-dollar car. I'm not buying people in. Oh, I used to have a party in Glenville. Hey, y'all can drive in. Hey, you're welcome to come. You ain't got to bring nothing.

I got all the alcohol. I got 100 pounds of crab leg, 100 pounds of shrimp. We got like 200 hot dogs, 200 hamburgers, all of that. Hey, have at it. But get there the best way you can. Preferably, I prefer you to walk because you're going to be drunk by the way you can preferably I prefer you to walk because you're going to be drunk by the time you leave and I don't want nobody to have no accident

knock on wood thank God we're watching over nobody got no DUI nobody got hard but I ain't pressing nobody man y'all know I got money I'm playing in the NFL I'm the highest paid XYZ but I'm not finna impress nobody a fiend a fiend birthday party?

Blue jeans, t-shirt, shorts, flip-flops, sandals, whatever. That's the theme. True. I don't even celebrate my birthday. I just say me a little prayer. I'm glad to see another year. Yes!

Give me a little Starbucks. Give me a cigar, man, and kick my feet up. I just feel bad, Ocho, that people come in and... I mean, some people will never see a million dollars in their lifetime. And I get it.

When you say he made over $100 million, you figure Uncle Sam will take 50% of that. So that's $50 million. Let's just say, Ocho, I throw 25 million. I just throw 25. You still got to have 25 left. Even after your agent take his cut back then, they take, what, 3%, 4%? I don't know, 5% if they're paying for everything?

Nah. And people are like, oh, kids. Kids don't live. Here's the thing. Yes, my grandfather told my brother and I, we were young. He said, the worst kind of poor you can be is child poor. Don't let that go over your head, people. That's an 18-year expense.

That's damn near as long as your mortgage. Now, just imagine, your mortgage, you got one. There ain't very many people that have seven mortgages. So you start having five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten kids. Okay?

And they're not by one. Guess what, Ocho? That's 18 years. I know. I done done the math. the math oh shit I done done it too plenty times so you know what that mean Shannon you ain't went on no vacation hell nah my vacation was right there

that was my vacation right there oh she don't play cause all that man Hurricane don't play. She don't play because all that, all that. Man, Hurricane don't play. She cussing everybody out. How would you handle that situation? Obviously, Real. Real is important to you. That's your mom.

Hey, Real got it when my mama was here. Real got cussed out when my mama was here. Matter of fact, I'm going to show you you you can't even see right listen remember i told you when mama passed away her messages right you see you see my phone yeah me scrolling all her messages still there you want you want to know her last message was to me i ain't even raced yet

hold on cut some real ass out second row you laughing i ain't even raced yet. Hold on. Cut some real ass out. Second row. You laughing. I ain't going to sit in second row at the mock funeral. Not a seat for me at the funeral. As for Sherelle, said to me, she had no contact information on me

to let me know you were having a party. Fuck that bitch too. Hey, what? Oh, but my mama was hell, man, and everybody got it. There's a saying, I don't know how many people in the chat that are from Miami or any of my friends, there's a saying, you are really not a friend of mine. We are not really friends if you

haven't been cursed out by my mama. So what I do try to do in situations like that, I try to de-escalate them as much as possible, but once she got that lick in her system, if my mama got that lick in her system, it's a wrap. Yeah.

There's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can say. It's a wrap. I believe there has to be a healthy level of respect on both sides. I understand because moms don't believe anybody is ever going to be good enough for their daughter. And fathers don't believe believe anybody is ever going to be good enough for their daughter. Yeah. And fathers don't believe that anybody is ever going to be good enough for their daughter. Right. But there has to be a level of respect there that this is the person that I choose. And whatever mistake I make, I'm going to have to stand it. I'm going to have

to own it. And, you know, there might be a time down the road that you say, I told you so. Right. But if I introduce you to somebody, I don't need you to, in this situation notwithstanding, just be respectful. Because I'm going to demand my partner be respectful of you because you are my mom and you are an adult.

You're older than she is. And so she's going to give you a level of respect. But in order to get respect, you're going to have to give respect. Yeah. And I don't want to be, listen, every time I come around, I'm't want to be i'm listen every time i

come around i'm not gonna be a referee i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not that's good that's not that's not what i'm here for yeah i you know i i want my partner to be around to know my family to to my grandmother and my mom and my sister my brother brother and family. But to come around and be and to be, you're not going to be disrespectful. Yeah. You're not going to call out her name and my partner, damn, she's not going to be disrespectful to you because at the end of the day, that's still my mom. Yeah.

She gave me life. So we have to be respectful. I demand respect on both sides. I demand it from my mom to respect my partner and I demand my partner respect my mom. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. I mean from my mom to respect my partner, and I demand my partner to respect my mom. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough, huh? I mean, listen, I mean, your mom is a little different than my mom was.

I mean, there are other people's moms, they operate different in that space when it comes to who their son might be dating. My mama don't give two you-know-what, and didn't care who you were. You was going to get it. Any small little situation where things don't give two you know what and didn't care who you were. You was you was going to get it. Any any any small little situation where things don't most of the time go her way or you don't or you don't you don't check in. It's just it just it just weird. Some of the things that would trigger her.

And I would do everything I can in my power to to do to deescalate situations the best way I can. And, you know, it was hard for me to even take my mama places with me. It was hard to take it to important stuff. Red carpet events. Because I know I know what's going to happen. I know I know what's going to happen. And it never fail. It never fail. Even when I tried, it never fail. In chat, if y'all don't know about Hurricane Paula, you can go watch in action when we did marriage boot camp together. My mom and I, we did marriage boot camp together, family edition

where I tried to reunite and bring us a little closer together because we were always at wit's end. My grandma raised me, so I tried to do all I can to see if I can fix and rectify our situation as mother and son. And boy, she showed

her ass. She showed her ass. She cussed everybody out. My thing is I'm never going to curse my mom. I'm never going to be disrespectful to my mom i'm never gonna be disrespectful to my mom um um i'm just gonna have a conversation with my mom and like mom look i'm an adult now yeah i'm not the little boy yes i am i'm still your baby i'm the one that you gave birth to on june 26 1968 in cook county hospital that's me yeah but i'm a man now and i'm i'm well i'm in my right mind uh i'm old enough

i'm wise enough to make decisions they might not be perfect my grandmother had just the opposite approach my grandma's like i ain't gotta sleep with him if you like him i love him because i ain't gotta spend one day with him son that's my grandma anytime i brought somebody i didn't bring a whole lot of people around my grandma but she said son i ain't got to spend one day with them, son. That's my grandma. Anytime I brought somebody, I didn't bring a whole lot of people around my grandma, but she said, son, you're the one that got to live with them. Are you happy? And if they make you happy, you being happy makes me happy. And if my happiness is dependent on you, you being happy, son, do it.

But, you know, my mom is and i get it but like i would i would never i would i wouldn't allow my mom um i probably was like you know take my take my take my partner home my girlfriend home and then i'm gonna come back and i'm gonna have a conversation i'm gonna have a deep conversation with my mom and i'm gonna say mom that's disrespectful i say it's in other words you don't say, so in other words, you don't respect me. So you don't give, you don't give, you don't care about me. You don't care what I want. You don't care what I like. You don't care about my happiness. This ain't about you, mom. Right. This is not about you. And I understand you want what's best for your child. All parents, I'm going to say all, most parents want what's

best for their child if they're if they have anything right because i've never i've never gonna be that parent and i prepare oh you think you better than me what parents worth anything says that to a child you think you better than me right but i will have a conversation with my mom that i i i thought that was very disrespectful. Yeah. The way you talk to her, the way you talk to me. Right. And mom,

I'm going to always love you, but if you can't respect the person that I'm with, I can't come around you. Yeah. Shoot, that shit there, man. Shit. You see that little speech you gave just now? Being nice about, man, I can't even come around? Man, but carry your black ass on there.

Fuck you and that bitch. I wish you could have met my mama, man. I don't know how many people from the chat or that's watching the show that's from the career that know about my old girl. Boy, she ain't play that shit, boy. Boy, she ain't play that. I don't care. It don't matter who he is. Everybody got it. Coaches, my old girl. Boy, she ain't play that shit, boy. Boy, she ain't play that. It don't matter who he is. Everybody got it.

Coaches, teachers, friends, my girls, my kids. Those that have kids from, everybody got it. Everybody was fair game. It's different. It was very different the way my grandmother approached my girlfriends or people that I was dealing with than my mom. Yeah. My grandma was like,

you happy take care of the babies. Hey, cause I want them great. I want them great grand to be around X, Y, and Z. Alice, Mary Alice.

Different ball game, huh? But, but the thing is that that you know you take you take mom just because i have somebody in my life that doesn't mean i love you any less just because i got a kid from this person that doesn't mean that's going to take any that's going to take any of my love from you you're my mom you always gonna be always going to be my mom. I'm always going to do for you. But now I have responsibilities that I have to do for someone else also. Now, I might not be able to do as

much as I could do because I have other responsibilities. First and foremost, that's one thing Barney and Mary Porter raised us to do. You take care of your responsibilities. And I'm going to do that because I created it. So anytime you create something, you take care of these. And I'm going to do that. Right. Because I created it. So anytime you create something,

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you understand how fortunate that young fellow was to have a woman do something like that for him? Do you know how difficult it is to find a woman that's willing to extend themselves in that manner in that manner let alone the small things but if you think about it today in today's era in today's society everything is on us think about it now everything is on us everything we have to do everything you got a court you got to buy you got to do everything. You got to court, you got to buy,

you got to do this. And if they do buy you something, it's probably your money anyway. True. You know? So, the fact that she was willing to do this out of maybe love or whatever it may have been at that time.

Oh, it's got to be love. Why the hell could it be? Yeah, yeah, you know. Who the hell giving $60,000 that don't love? The funny thing about it is when you're in love, you do things that you wouldn't do

when you're not in love. Because you're thinking in your right mind. Nah, they say love is blinding. I ain't got no cataracts. I can see just fine. Right, right, right. $60,000, Ochoa? You wouldn't do that?

Be honest. Yeah, my brother. If you was in love with the woman right now you would tell her no i ain't paying no sixty thousand dollars on shit oh nothing i just said you didn't listen to the scenario if you were in love no ocho that's my my wife is one thing. A girlfriend. Right. 60 grand. Hold on.

Hold on. And guess what? Girlfriend and wife. The rules are basically the same. The only thing that's different is the document in the ring. I'm not. I because you know what happened? Cause when they broke up and she left the place, he beaten somebody else back in.

Now, guess what? I pay for those loans. I'm paying that loan off. If somebody got a, somebody got a bent over the balcony. Oh, hey. Oh, hell no. Come on, Ojo. Well, let me tell you, listen, I had a wonderful, beautiful saying that I've been saying all my life, which you have to understand. Now, I think we are put on earth to experience people. We're put on earth to experience people. And at times, my grandfather told me, long time ago, son, listen,

you're going to meet people. And I want you to always remember, she's not yours. It's just your turn. Yeah. She's not yours. It not yours you just return so you really can't think like that now now for me for instance you do things to extend that vacation you do all the right things you can to extend that vacation in that stay as much as possible. You know? And you do all you can to keep an individual happy so it maintains itself long term. Look, I think the thing is, Ocho, for a situation like yourself, me or yourself.

Yes, sir. 60 grand, that's a lot of money. But I'm not going to, I ain't going to lose a night of sleep. Right, right, right. 60 grand for her is probably like, I ain't going to say what it would be for 60 grand for her is probably like I ain't gonna say okay okay okay I see what you mean yes sir you see what I'm saying yeah yeah you at 60 grand

is different for different people right for her that is a stretch right I'm not losing sleep over 65 right that's how you know but the problem is Ocho is that like i said look have i have i look if i care about you i want what's best for you i don't want even most of the most of the women that i've dated and they'll tell you this all of them if they've ever asked me for something and i could do it take off whoa whoa whoa within reason whoa within Not within reason. Whoa. Within reason. Okay, I was waiting on that part. Okay, I was waiting on that. Because here, look, now, a lot of times I've been in situations

and they've always did me a solid. They didn't say anything negative about me, didn't say anything bad. So they always good in my book. They could always be, heyannon i need x okay i got you shannon i need y because i'm never gonna say anything bad about you no matter what has transpired behind closed doors that's why i don't do anything publicly because i can break up privately i can get with someone privately but if i break it but if i date publicly if i'm posting

i'm doing all this right the moment then people start to try to fish and try to figure things out but any any any any woman that i've dated say in the last 30 years if they've ever asked for something monetarily and i could help them i. Yeah. I like, I like how you said within reason. I like how you, you threw that, you know, within sometimes, sometimes they'll continue to take and take and take and take and push the limits to see how far they can go. No, I mean, I had one did me one solid. I ain't gonna tell y'all what the solid is, but when it came down, she said,

well, she had it. I need a house. I want to, I didn't care. I ain't gonna tell y'all what the solid is. But when it came down, she said, well, Shannon, I need a house. I want to I don't know. Come on. You said it a little too casually. Casually. She did me a solid. I'll be the real solid. Your boy was jammed up. Okay. Okay. Okay.

I was in a bind. Okay. Okay. I said, I tell you what. In this situation, she could have came to me and got 60,000. Right. She could have came to me and got a hundred pounds. Right. Right.

Right. But she didn't do that. Right. You said, I just need the down payment. Right. I said, well, how much is the down payment?

She said, X. I said, if I give you Y, how much would your monthly payments be? Cause I wanted to be as easy as it possibly can. So I tried to make it as easy as I possibly could. So her monthly payments would be something that she could manage where she wouldn't have to come back because I was in no position.

I would have had no choice. Consider what she did for me. OK, I like that. I like that did for me right okay i like that i like that i like that i like that i like that i i understand wholeheartedly understand when you coming from based on based on circumstance i like that i like that but you're a real real one i'm looking you're a real one all you if you if you ever any of my coaches my coach my college my high school coach i bought him a car my uh uh my my my uh remedial and spanish teacher every game she didn't want anything she said shannon i just want to come see you play i'm just so proud of you but women that have been in my life that have been good and didn't try to harm because you know everybody ain't good

but if they've been good, they know they can get it. Right. And I want nothing to return. It ain't no, oh, you getting the good. No, no, no. I ain't spunt the block. I have. Yeah. Why?

Why you do you? Okay. But she did Hey For what she did for me Right Like I said Ocho Oh yeah I understand You ain't got

Listen you ain't got to go in depth I get From the passion And the passion In your delivery I already know I'm with you The man had the job

For six months Ocho What you mean You working on his number Who takes a job And you still trying To figure it out six months later how much I'm going to pay you? I don't know. I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you, if I was an issue...

Chad, I mean... Chad, am I out of line here? I'm like, I'm trying to figure this out. Hold on. Wouldn't it be hard if I get the job at the Chargers? Because maybe it's me. Maybe itgers? Because maybe it's me. Maybe it's me.

Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me, guys. Because, you know, sometimes I have a propensity. How about I get the job at January 24th? When was Jerome Moore named head coach at Michigan? Michigan. January 26th. He was named head coach January 26th. So February, March, April, May, June, July, August. Here we are in September.

So we've had eight months. You know who else doesn't have a contract that is deserving for the work he's put in and going to put in? Jamar Chase. Who? Not enough. Jamar Chase has a contract, Ocho. Not enough.

He got two years left on the contract he signed. That's not comparable. It's not enough. No, Ocho, but you said he doesn't have a contract he actually does have a contract he has two years left on the contract that he signed on his rookie deal at all sharon moore does not have a contract okay that was all period no contract they're trying to work out terms they're trying to come to an agreement. So the man was an intern. How many games did Harbaugh miss?

Three? Four? So he missed three games. So you saw him intern. He kept the ship afloat. He was your OC. Called a national championship game. You won that game.

You name him head coach on January the 26th, and you didn't work out a deal in February, March, April, May, June, July, August. And here we are in September. They would do that. They never do that. I don't know what's going on, but I just know the other. I know

I know other countries don't have to go through that. I don't I don't want to make any speculations. I do. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's maybe I know other coaches don't have to go through that. I don't want to make any speculations. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. You know who the athletic director is at Michigan? We could always send him a little message.

I just thought someone starts a job. It's already in place and you have the agreement. Okay, here's the thing. Yes! Who takes a job? I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa. This ain't just any job now. Let's try this.

Put yourself in Mr. Moore's shoes. If you were in his shoes, are you not taking the Michigan job because a contract has not been fulfilled yet? The contract, Ocho, the contract has worked out before you take the job. Are you going to say, no, I don't want to coach for Michigan because the contract hasn't been

worked out. I just want to see I'm just asking. Are you not going to take the job because the contract hasn't done yet? Ocho, do you... The contract would have been done. First of all, the contract is going to be done before you take the job. Who takes the job with no contract?

So you're saying you wouldn't take it? Ocho? Ocho, the contract would have been done before you signed. I'm just hypothetically speaking. Ocho, the contract would have been done before you signed. If you were in his shoes with the opportunity that is presenting itself to coach the Michigan Wolverines and it wasn't in place, would you take it or not?

You would say no because... My agent would never let me take a job in which the contract would not contract was done. Oh, Cho? That'll be like you said, you know what? I'm going to get mad with no prenup worked out. We're going to work on it at a later date

and time. You doing that? Me? You talking to me? Well, yeah. But see, my situation when it comes to that, I mean, for better context, prenup.

Rail says, OK, Ocho, we're going to get mad. We're going to work out the contract. We're going to work out the pre-nup. You're like, okay, Real, we can work out the pre-nup at a later date and time. Whatever we're going to do, we're going to work out that at a later date and time. And here we are, eight months in. So y'all been dating three and a half, four

years. And so now, because Ron Moore has been there for a minute. He's years. Right. And so now, because Jerome Morris has been there for a minute. He's been the OC. And so now, eight months until your marriage, ain't nothing been signed, ain't nothing been settled. Because I'm going to make sure if she try to leave me, I'm going, I'm leaving with half. I ain't signing shit.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Like I said, Chad, maybe it I'm saying this ain't no regular program this ain't just no regular job we talk about that makes it more that's why you know I think the fact that we're talking about

I'm sure other people are talking about it as well when the numbers do come across we're going to be like oh now we see why it took so long now they're going to be like, oh, now we see why it took so long. Now they're going to take care of him. How you know? He ain't finna get dabble money. He's not finna get.

Let's bet. He's not finna get. Ocho, ain't no first year coach about to get no 12 million. Stop. I bet he hit double digits, though. Oh, Lord. Let's bet. Bet $100.

I bet he don't. Bet $100. Okay, bet $100. dollars i bet he don't bet a hundred okay bet a hundred dollars okay bet i bet you a hundred and that what what um college michigan played already right they played last week and they play again i guarantee you have a contract in place and i guarantee it is nor is is is north of 9 million before week three. Okay. First of all, you said it was going to be double digits. What is north of 9 million? Okay, I get your point. Okay, north of 9 million is 10.

You said double digits. But the fact of the matter is that this is a blue blood program like you said it's not some it's not so right right small school this is a preeminent program that probably spent a hundred million two hundred million a hundred plus million dollar athletic budget and you mean to tell me you've had this man working, recruiting. Yeah, you're right. I guess... He doesn't have a contract? I mean, I see it

from your point of view. I also see it from another point of view with the opportunity that presents itself at hand, working for this historic, prestigious university, knowing they're going to take care of me at some point. They don't have me working for nothing. Because... How do I know that? How do you know that? Why haven going to take care of me at some point. They don't have me working for nothing. Because how do I know that?

How do you know that? Why haven't they taken care of me? Because this ain't 7-Eleven. This ain't H&M. This is the University of Michigan. And I know they're going to cut that check. You would think they'd have took care of him by now.

Yes, sir. I understand. I totally understand what you mean, though. I totally do. I promise you I do. what you mean, though. I totally do. I promise you I do. I don't know why it's going on. I don't know what they're waiting on, but I'm just saying if the opportunity presented itself, if I was Mr. Moore with great understanding

that it might not be done now, but I know they're going to make sure I'm good. Eight months, Ocho? Listen, you think eight months long? Let me ask you a question. You think eight months long let me ask you a question you think eight months long how long you think I make how long just not to put my personal business

out there you know I made Rhea wait nine months before she even could get some and you think that's long there's no difference but she had to work for that but hold on but but what if Rhea had to pay you for. But hold on. But what if

Ray had to pay you for sex and say, well, Ocho, hey, I'm going to pay you in eight months. Exactly. You see how you look at me? Now, when you put it like that from a context, because I don't lay down for free. You right by there. Yeah, that's my only thing, Ocho. I'm okay normally when you like okay you come in for a job

interview okay okay well how much does the job pay okay what are you what are my expectations on the job what's the job hours what's the whole what's the uh uh work schedule overtime is that okay do I get health benefits? Okay, do I get PTO? I'll come in with a job. I need CTO. Choice time off. You know what I'm saying? No choice. I choose to take off.

So all those things I'm working out. Okay, Mr. Sharp, you got the job. Okay, thank you. Oh, whoa, I got a job. How much did the job pay? I understand sometimes like medical, it can take 30 to 60 days before you get medical. I get that.

But it ain't taking no damn eight months for me to get no paycheck. I'm not familiar with these type of situations, being that I've never been in a position to be a coach or work at a university like Michigan, so I don't know what's going on. I have no idea. Maybe if I was Paul Feinbaum, I'd have a better answer for you. But I don't know. I don't know. But I do think he's going to get paid and it's going to be north of 10 million. They're not going to play with him, especially waiting this goddamn long.

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