Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Best of Ocho’s Resume

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson does a deep dive into his stacked resume with Shannon Sharpe in this week’s Best Of episode. Ocho discusses everything from being the greatest route runner of all time and auditioning for T-Pain and Saweetie to wanting a job on Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders coaching staff and much, much more!03:00 - Ocho inducted into the Bengals ring of honor09:40 - Ocho greatest route runner of all time11:30 - Ocho’s attempt to collab on lyrics for super bowl commercial12:20 - Ocho is the FIFA expert. NBA players train with Ocho17:10 - Ocho’s time as a stripper19:00 - Ocho is the table tennis prodigy22:00 - Ocho wants a job on Prime’s coaching staff.27:10 - Ocho was a music video vixen29:10 - Ocho tests his rapping out on Unc36:19 - Ocho auditions for T-Pain and Saweetie(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Newest member into the Cincinnati Bengals Ring of Honor, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. You got the sunglasses on so I know it wasn't real, but I know you cried me a river, old Justin Timberlake. I didn't cry.

Trust me, I didn't cry, but I'm feeling good. Listen, I'm happy. Let me see your eyes right quick. Oh yeah, you cried. You cried in the car. I bet you cried in the car. I walked to the stadium. I walked to the stadium and I walked back here.

I wanted to be amongst the people. I wanted to be amongst the people. I wanted to be amongst the people. I wanted to feel amongst the people. Yeah, I wanted to be amongst the people. And I wanted to feel the love that I have missed for over a decade and some change. And that's exactly what it was. I had my kids walk with me. I had the missus walk with me. I had T.O. came out to support me, man. I saw it.

Man, listen, that felt good, man. That felt good to have my family with me. And then my extended family, my extended family of 80,000 right out there screaming that name hearing that Ocho just the same way you explained it yesterday you you go into the ring of honor with a former yeah a colleague of mine uh Boomer Sison so tell me what what was that moment like you walking down uh as the half is about to end you and your family and your your family and friends, you start to walk down.

And now all of a sudden you're on the field. And you start to get a little quee like, oh, man, this thing about to happen. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I kept thinking about happy thoughts. And what I tried not to do, I tried not to go back to everything it took to get to this point. Because if I thought about everything it took to get to this point, as far as making it to and getting that phone call from Mike Brown, and then all the ups and downs throughout my career, then the tears would have started flowing. I thought happy thoughts.

I kept looking at my kids. I kept looking at the crowd, the focus, my keep myself locked in so i don't cry but that moment i took it all in i enjoyed it you only get one of them you only get one of them you only get one of them and man i'm gonna i'm gonna savor that moment man forever dude i'm surprised also knowing how close you were to your mom and grandmother and how special it would have been had they been there your mind just for a second didn't go there say damn i wish grandma i purposely stayed away from that i'm just telling you i was i was able to come compartmentalize mama everything else that was bad the journey to get to this point

happy thoughts staring the crowd make eye contact one person one person in the crowd and stay on that you know i i didn't want to do it i didn't want to break down in that moment even though it would have been tears of joy it would have been tears of sadness because i'm thinking about my mama not here i'm thinking about my grandma not here now what's gonna happen behind closed doors when i get back to miami tomorrow guess where i'm going with my ring on a jacket i'm going to the graveyard they buried they. They buried right next to each other. So I'm going to have that moment with them. Let them see their baby.

Hold up, hold up. Boy, you almost caught me. Hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You going to let them see their baby and say, hey, mama, granted, I did it. Yeah, let me get back right. Let me get back right. Because you almost got me.

You almost got me. Let me stop talking about that. But, yeah, I'm going to have that moment with them tomorrow. I'm going to have that moment with them tomorrow, man. And they deserve it. So, since they couldn't be here, I'm going to go ahead and bring it to them. You're going to them. I got you.

Ocho, congratulations. I know this night was very, very special for you and your family and friends. Yeah. To go into a team's ring of honor, it goes to show that that doesn't go unbeknownst. Because a lot of people said, you know what? We think his play on the field and his behavior off the field is worthy of him representing the Cincinnati Bengals for perpetuity. I like that. I like that.

I like that. You know I like that you know what I'm going to get one of them gold ones too I'm going to get one of them gold ones too and if I don't get one guess what I'm going to go do no no no no no no I'm going to go make me a gold one I'm going to make me one I'm going to make my own bus too

I'm going to make my own bus gold one. I'm going to make me one. I'm going to go make my own. I'm going to make my own bust too. I'm going to make my own bust. Because I know where they get them done at. It's going to be one-on-one. You hear me? It's going to be one-on-one. You know what that's like? One-on-one? Yeah, one-on-one.

Make my own Hall of Fame jacket. Hey, Ocho. Hey. She back to sleep, man. Who is that? You say you wanted a bus. That's you? You say you wanted a bus. You see the part, right? That's you?

You see that part? You see that part? I like that. I like that. I'm going to get me one. I'm going to get me a bus made. And mine is going to be 14 karat gold. 101. Oh, you're going to spend that kind of money? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because they ain't going to spend it on me. I got to do for me. Ain't that what you told me? Ain't that what you just told me? I did. I did.

Yeah. Listen, I'm going to make my own Hall of Fame jacket. Make my own jacket. Yeah. for us. Yeah, listen, I'll make my own Hall of Fame jacket. Make my own jacket. Yeah. With some, yeah, I'm going to put some 14-carat gold glitter on my jacket. If I, you know what you know now, and I can transport you back to your rookie season. Yes, sir. What type of numbers do you believe ocho could put up

to my rookie seat in today's game i'm going to you know what you know now right but i'm going to transport you back to your rookie season with the knowledge that you have now of the game right yes i think consistently probably 1400 1,400 consistently. Consistently. You say 1,600 consistently? 1,400 consistently. 14, 14, 14. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, especially during that time and that era, dealing with that Ravens defense and dealing with that Pittsburgh defense, you know, the numbers get a little low when you play against them. But as far as everyone else, I'm just being honest. Them boys ain't playing. Just being honest. But outside of the division, it's, oh, I'm going crazy. But, you know, those divisional games are always close,

and they really minimize my production very, very well. Right. Yeah. Especially with what I know now. I wish it was reversed. Who is the better route runner? Oh, Choa,

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oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, trained together for the past, what? They ain't ask you that. 13, 14 years? They ain't ask you that. They ask you a simple question. Who's the better route runner? They ain't ask you who you train with. Now, give the people an answer. It depends. I'm the greatest route runner of all time. It depends on what? Who is the better? I'm the greatest route runner of all time.

Of all time. Say that. Let me talk. Let me say something. I'm the greatest route runner of all time. There's one receiver. Listen to me, Yonk. Stay with me, baby. There's one receiver. Listen to me, stay with me, baby. There's one receiver and NFL films has all the footage that can come to the line of scrimmage and before the snap of the ball, tell the DB my route and still get open. There's only one person that's ever done that. Let me finish. There's one receiver that before the season started, he had a list of every DB, every DB in his locker.

It was checking them off week to week. There's only one. I don't care what nobody else did. No, I'm talking about early in my career. I'm talking about early in my career. You said stay with me, Ocho. Stay with me now. Stay with me.

I'm trying to keep up with you now. The funny thing about it, that's one man. And it ain't really bad to lose to that one man because that one man is one of the greatest to ever play the game. He got you, Ocho. Ocho, but what that would have said about you if you would have did a number on it? Huh?

Huh, me? You heard exactly what I said. No, I would have said I got lucky because that motherfucker was good, boy. That nigga Revis had the motherfucking patience of Sally Mae. You know, ain't nobody paying that money no time soon. But that line of scrimmage boy that nigga he's back in that first move ocho don't embellish did toby uh we giwi is that the guy that wrote no totally toby toby wigway toby wigway okay did he write all the lyrics or did you have some input speaking

about excessive celebration with Toby. You didn't do nothing, though, Toby? No, he wrote my lyrics. He wrote my lyrics, but it was perfect for me based on who I was. So the lyrics were perfect. So I came with my own lyrics. But the NFL, they wouldn't clear it. Because when I rap, I like to curse.

So we had to get clearance from the NFL. Yeah, this is a Super Bowl commercial. It's a Super Bowl commercial. So we had to get clearance from the NFL because this was – Yeah, this is a Super Bowl commercial. It's a Super Bowl commercial, so, you know, they ain't playing about that. Oh, no. They ain't playing about that. Absolutely not. Yeah, I went with Toby Laird because that is his profession.

He's really good at what he does. Toby, I appreciate you. I know you're going to see this. I love you. But I was just grateful. I was grateful for the opportunity to work with one of the best artists in the game today. It was dope. So right now, i really think i'm a rapper hey ocho i've been trying to challenge ocho on uh xbox to a game of fifa but he's been ducking me so i

figured this is the best way to contact him love you guys please don't stop making the show so jose jalapeno on a stick so you've been ducking him he said he won't that smoke on fifa well well technically how i know jose on a smoke jalapeno ain't really serious about no goddamn fifa and even called motherfucking fifa no more it's called eafc so that let me know he's sorry as hell he said he want to beat you on whatever it's called whatever you call it i ain't he gonna lose to me he gonna lose to me because he even saying the title right. He know how to find me. Anybody in the gaming world knows my game of tag and they know how to find me. I ain't hard to find.

You scared? Child, please. You scared? I ain't hard to find. You scared? I mean, I find you. I know you. Even if I'm scared, I ain't hard to find.

All you got to do is pull up. What you running from? So what else you want to talk about? Same reason you don't want to play me one-on-one? Ocho. Same reason. I don't care about your surgeries. I don't care about your hip. Play me one-on-one.

I don't want to hear none of all them excuses. Last time I shot a basketball, I weighed about 212 pounds. I'm about 247, and I'm a lot more muscle-bound now than I was then. What does muscle have to do Dwight Howard muscle bound too? He ain't made no excuses. He can't shoot with a lick. Well, you better go to the hoop. You better go to the hoop and try to lay it up.

Go to the hoop and try to lay it up. Ocho. Ocho. Hey, all I'm gonna do is dribble just like this here. That's fine. That's fine. I'm coming up right up under there and I'm stealing the ball. Next. Oh lord. Next. Ocho. Ocho, you can't play up right up under there and I'm stealing the ball. Next. Oh, Lord. Next. Ocho, you can't play no basketball.

You didn't play basketball in high school. Yo, did you not listen to me when I told you multiple shows ago the NBA players come to train with me to help with the off the ball movement and come off the dribble. All I know on the all-area team, if you go back and look at 1985 or 1986, I know two players made the team. Shannon Sharp and Purvis Ellison. You ever heard of him? I'm talking about 2020-2023.

I want to play one-on-one. I come to L.A. Get your camera crew so we can have some footage. Nightcap. I come to LA. Get your camera crew so we can have some footage. Nightcap. I tell you what. I'll play you in the basketball. You come in the gym and work out with me. We're going to put some weight on there.

I'm boxing right now. I cannot lift any weights. Oh, look at Holyfield. Holyfield lifted. Holyfield lifted. Please understand I cannot lift weights. I can only do band work right now and light works.

The inability to do something. Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson has the ability. I cannot lift heavy weight right now because I have a fight coming up. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I cannot shoot light basketballs right now. You understand? I'm training for something.

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Oh, 1998, the year I was ineligible at Santa Monica College. I was ineligible in 1988. 1998. Man, my mama pissed, my grandma wouldn't even let me come back to Miami. Like, listen, baby, I didn't watch my grandma. I washed my... It's her favorite line. I washed my hands. I done all I can do. Make sure you stay up there with your mom in LA. Shoot, I had to make a living. Boom. I was working at the right track, you know, an exotic club, you know. So, I was dancing, making a little living.

I was bringing in about like $2,500 a night. Right Track, off of Florence. Yeah, off of Florence, yeah. Man, hold on. Women pay to see you get naked? Man, listen, listen. Or they pay to see you put your clothes on? Because you probably walked out there with them.

I ain't trying to be funny. I told you we family now. I wrote that the right track on Florence. This way back in 1998. They used to call me Twix. Because I was tall now. I had a lot of veins. But I wasn't big.

So I was skinny. I thought they called you Twix for another reason. I thought they called you Twig. No, no, no. They called me Twix. And always what I learned about the nightlife and obviously when you're dancing as a dancer, you're always dancing for the BBWs.

The big women because they tip well. They tip real good. They tip real good. So I would make a $2,500 a night and I was... You ain't a lady if you ain't 180. What? 210, count your boy in. Oh, wee. I like that one. I like that one.

You know what, making Friday, Saturday, Sunday $20 a night, you am going to school, going to school Monday morning trying to get my grades together so I'm eligible for the following football season? Man, I was living life. Living life, then boom.

That's when I got my grades together, played in 1999. Dennis Erickson gave me that one shot at Oregon State. I ain't looked back since. Alec Hurst said one game to win. Everyone in their prime. Unk with LeBron, Ocho with Jordan. But, really?

We're going to beat the dog. Wait, in basketball? I don't care what it is. We're going to be the dog. Wait. I don't care what it is. Basketball, shooting pool, table tennis, what's that called? Cornhole. I don't care. Listen, whatever it is we play, whatever it is, if me and Jordan are teaming up against you and LeBron or anything, whatever it is we play, you are the liability and the reason y'all

gonna lose. You can't dribble. You can't shoot. You can't play table tennis. You can't shoot no pool. You can't bowl. But, man, we would wipe you out and everything. Ocho, did you know I have my own cue? They call you boy... I got my own Q, too.

You heard the Minnesota fans. They call your boy Georgia Slim. I beat him. I beat Fats. I beat Miss Coney. Willie Miss Coney. I beat Steve Mizorak. Boy, you better stop playing with me.

Gertrude Hofstadter. Vivian Vivera. The Black Widow. I want y'all to stop playing with me. Go ahead, man ahead with that, man. The Black Widow. Ocho, stop playing with me. Go ahead, man. Come on, man. Hey, who you beat again? Minnesota Fats, Willie Moscone, Steve Miserac.

What they – Jordan Slim. What's your name? What they call you? Jordan Slim. Man, you better stop playing. Ocho, you better stop with me. Ojo, we beat the brakes up, y'all.

Hey. Man, trust me. They had nothing. Nothing with me and Jordan team. Table tennis. I'm telling you who the liability is. Table tennis. Don't do that.

I'm Roger Federer on table tennis. Now, right there, I'm going to stop you right there. I'm going to stop you right there. One thing you're not going to do is you ain't going to sit here and put no lives like that. He on God's green earth about beating me in no table tennis, boy. I was the Charles Hadley table tennis champ in 1985 all the way to goddamn 1999. Ain't lost to nobody in Liberty City. That's what I'm saying, Liberty City.

Don't do that. Everybody the king of the block in Liberty City. Nah, boy, I come from the home of true the chinese wanted me to come play for them yeah they wanted you to come play for them they didn't want that i couldn't i couldn't betray my country you better stop playing with me man don't do that man no that's that table tennis Man, don't do that, man.

No, table tennis, don't do that, man. Don't do that. Shooting pool, don't do it to yourself. Cornhole, don't do it to yourself. First of all, I know you can't play no pool because you don't even know how many balls were on the table. That's first of all. You ain't know nothing about no eight ball. You ain't know nothing about no nine ball.

You ain't know nothing about no six ball. You ain't know nothing. So stop. You not beating me in any of these games you talk about. I got a question. Okay, I got a question. So listen,

I'm going to put you on the spot. I'm going to put you on the spot right now. Since I already have 37 jobs, let's make it 38. How about you have me to come be the assistant receiver coach? You don't want to do that. You ain't dedicated like that. But I didn't have instruction disciplines in 1968. You ain't even talk to me like that. You dedicated to play,

but you ain't dedicated to coach. You ain't do that. You ain't like that. Right? So you basically, you going to try to give me some mumbo jumbo and just say, you know what, I don't want to hire you. Why don't you just say no? I will bring you in as an analyst, but you can't be there every day. You ain't going to be there every day.

I know you. You do know I know you. Listen, I love the kids. I got 11. I got 11. You love the kids. You love the game. But you're not going to be there every day.

Where's your coach? Where am I going to be at? He'll get back at us. He texted all of going to be at? He'll get back at us. He texted all of us this morning and said he'll get back at us. But see, before he got the job, when he didn't have the job at Jackson State, we talked at least four or five times a day. Yeah. Really not about football.

It was a lot about a bull jive. Okay, he goes to Jackson State, and I call him two or three times a week, mainly about bull jive, a little bit of football. But when he got there, I said, I gotta let him get his feet wet, let him get in there, let him get in there, figure that bag out, and then, you know, I will hit him up. Now, this year ain't gonna be like

last year, because you already know what to expect. You know what I just thought about? I just thought about, I done got about it. I done got turned down two brothers that I love. Y'all supposed to uplift me. I done asked both of y'all to do something for me. Unc,

I done asked Unc, right? I've been begging him for three months. Man, get me on first tape. He done sold me a dream. I done asked you to let me come be a coach at or assistant at Colorado. You done told me no. So both of y'all done

turned me down. We know you. I mean, you do know we know you. Y'all supposed to be helping me climb the mountain. I heard what Shannon did to you, but he was right. He said, let me get in here first and let me work it out and let me do my thing. He done been in there three months. Three months. He ain't been in there three months.

Three months. He ain't in all the way yet. He don't know everybody's name. He just get in there and, you know, he just getting straight. He just got the whole makeup situation straight. So, you know, he just getting that right. What? What?

You dirty time. You dirty. You dirty. Anyway, he got all that straight. Now he good. I know you. I dirty. You dirty. He got all that straight. Now he good. I know you. I've been knowing you. You know I know you.

If you give me a job, I will move to Colorado, man. I will uproot everything in Miami and I will come to Colorado. You know that. I promise you. If grandma was alive right now, she'd cut you out. You know if grandma was alive right now, she'd cut you out. You know if grandma wasn't lying right now, she'd cut you out. Now, you know. I don't care who you tell it to. Well, I'm talking about his grandma.

That was my girl. He know grandma cuts him out if he's lying. Grandma know I know you. I got my right hand up. I got my right hand up. That's the left one. Huh? That's the left one.

That's the left one. On TV, that's your right, but that's the left one. That's your left one. We don't see. We know you. That's your left. We know you. That's why we know you. I just want an opportunity, man. I'm trying to get with y'all. I just want an opportunity.

Time. Time. I give him a platform, get him on here three, four times a week. Is it on time? Has it been on time? I'm always on time. I ain't never late. That times a week. I got the full team. You coming today, you on the day. I'm always on time. I ain't never late. That's a lie.

I ain't never late. That's a lie. Hey, listen. I might not wear watch that work, but I'm going to be on time. Now? Now? Not historically. I don't know about all that.

I've never been late nowhere. You know what? I set my watch five minutes ahead on purpose, so I never go I'd never be anywhere late. Do you really want me to call Marvin Lewis? I ain't never showed up late to no meeting.

Oh, yeah. You know you're lying. Not that I can remember. I got CTE. I can't remember. You lived at the complex. How you live at the complex if you was late? I don't understand. Oh, no. Because nobody woke me up.

Nobody woke me up. That was early in my career now. Hold on. Do you remember the strength and conditioning coaches, Chip and Friday? Yeah, Ray. Ray and – I'm talking to you. Chip.

Chip Morton. Yeah. Yeah. And then Friday came in as an you. Chip. Chip Morton. Yeah. Yeah. And then Friday came in as an assistant. Okay. Okay. So, you know, I know that we know each other. It's like a fraternity.

Yeah. I mean, we all family. We all family. But I don't like things being said about me that aren't true. So, you know, that's not true. One thing about it. I'm never late. No, that was true.

You was late. That was true. You live in the complex. Like, how do you do that? But you said they didn't wake you up. I take that. Yeah, they didn't wake me up. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like you being in the grocery store and starving. How you starving a grocery store? I don't even understand that, though. Jordan Hackley, what's up, Shannon? Chad, big fan of the show. I have a question for you, Ocho. How did you end up in Monica's Everything to Me music video? Oh, you know, I was a video vixen back in the day.

How'd that happen? I did a little bit of everything. Yeah, you know, I did a little bit of acting. You know, I did a little amateur, you know what? I mean, that's a whole other story when I was in college. And then it transitioned into being a video vixen. So I'm really well-rounded and very cultured. So I've really been around the block and done everything.

And I consider that a job. It paid me a little something in the off-season. And it was cool. I enjoyed it. Not to cut you off. Man, I should have told that. Man, you know how many people, Ocho, I ain't gonna lie. Do you know people come up with that?

I mean, I've had women to ask me. No. You wouldn't let me order no lobster on the first date. I say, man, come on, man, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Listen, that was

a great topic. That was the running conversation on Twitter about being there two weeks now, two, three weeks. Man. That's funny, man. Even the pilot. I was on a flight. Pilot be asking me questions.

I'm telling you, that's one of the... That's probably the question that... I mean, probably the most question that women ask. Can I address you as Unk? Can I call you Unk? They ask me about the lobster. And they ask,

you really get upset? I mean, you really make your partner go to another room to pass gas? Yeah. Absolutely. Boy, them was classic topics. Classic. Luda don't get the love and respect that he deserves

because he's a lyricist. And his flow is impeccable. Always, whether he on his own or he on a feature, Luda going to give you that book. So don't play with that man. You know I can rap too now. What, Christmas over? We don't need

anything else rap. I'm just saying, this is my own. Let me give you one bar. What kind of bar? I'm going to give you one bar. What kind of bar? I'm going to give you one bar. What do you want to drink? I got a bar right back here. What do you need?

Nah. Listen, let me just give you one bar real quick. My grandmother was blind. And I had to read in Braille. Every time I think about it, it was a touching story. No. No, I get what you're trying to go with it. My grandmother was blind and I had to read in Braille.

It was a touching story. Yeah, you know what? You told that story about your grandma reading in Braille. Before you make me mean. Next time you wake up, you're going to be in hell. You don't make fun. I don't want to give you this float. I like that. I like that.

Hey, I got that from Twerk. Twerk, I appreciate you, baby. I just use your lines. See? Imitation is the purest form of flattery. Yeah. Hey, that was nice. Bring that back one more time. Bring that back one more time. Ocho, bad question. Ochocho the wrong

role the wrong role can railroad your career the same as wrong song album can kill your career as a singer rapper listen in acting if you ain't that boy you right here turning down roles it ain't like role just be no but I'm saying

you might be good and take the wrong road and it derails you. Right. It's kind of like a quarterback going to the wrong team. We see guys go, oh. Oh, like my dude, Zach, like Zach Wilson. Yeah.

And you know what? I never thought about it like that. I never thought about it like that. Not as you, you opened my eyes and the people in the chat are obviously opening my eyes when it comes to those that are acting those that are in that field I'm thinking you know shit if you good

and you really good at what you do you will always have opportunities and the role you the role you take it shouldn't divert what it is you trying to do or where you trying to go and getting more what's the what's the what's the old adage you never get a second chance to make a first impression hey hey i like that that's why i like that because okay ocho we do this we bomb

how do we reinvent it to come back for people to come back and watch again? They like, we already heard that. Right. We already saw that. We good. Right. You get one chance to get it right.

Right. Especially when you deal with you dealing with. It's not like, look, we got family and friends who go watch us regardless, but we're asking people that have really no connection, no affiliation to us to tune in, listen to what we have to say,

be educated, be entertained, and to come back once, twice, three, four times a week. And you know what, by the way? Check out your favorite uncle on Club Shea Shea. That's what we're asking. You've got to get, and you don't get a second chance at that people are unforgiving have a bad meal at a restaurant how many times you have a

bad meal they're like well you know it was just bad this time they're like no i'm good right i got one more question i mean in the chat chat i need y'all to help me out listen listen to me real quick i understand hollywood in quick. I understand Hollywood in a sense. I understand acting in a sense. I've heard the frustrations and the gripes for many people throughout the years in general, how hard it is to get roles, how hard it is to get jobs. So when you say you don't want to take certain roles, like so many opportunities are being presented to you to be able to turn down roles, How do they navigate in that area, in that field and in that space? When it's already hard to get roles, you have to turn stuff down because of what it might be.

And it might derail your career when you can't even get your career off the goddamn ground because you turn it down because you're not getting enough opportunities to begin with. Look at it like this. That's the part that's confusing me. Let me let me enlighten your eyes. much money you think i can make if i were to say my people my community it's our fault all of our fault that we're in this position and take some of the approaches that we've seen other people take they'll write me they'll write me a check as long as the Hollywood sign. I refused to compromise

anything because at the end of the day, I got to lay down with me. Money don't make me. I make it. All money ain't good money because at the end of the day, now I'm not saying that anything that Cat said about these people because I don't know these people.

I don't have knowledge of what he said. He says he has information. Okay. But at the end of the day, Ocho, I prepare as well as I can. And I'm not always right when it comes to predicting the score. But I can honestly say when I critique a player, there's no malicious intent involved. I've done as much research as I possibly can on a given

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You coming to the residency? Matter of fact, let me perform with you. Come on up there. No, I'm serious. You have the shortest residency in Vegas. That should be one night only. With T-Pain featuring Ocho. No, no, no, no, no. Listen, I moved the needle now. I can sing.

If you want an example, let me know. Go ahead, move the needle. You gotta take a seat. Hold on, got me fucked up. You gotta stand up, cuz you gotta stand up for the jack. The diaphragm and stuff. I Yeah. That was it, that was the... I'm so in love with you.

I know one of those notes. That was the... I'm so in love with you. I know one of those notes. Whatever you want me to... One of those. That's it. That's what it is. I'll do right to you. Sure. Yeah.

What you think? I'll take that. That was... One to ten. Be honest. Be honest. Because my vocal coach ain't here. She in Miami.

I will say this. On one to ten, that's a hot four. You did good. I said a hot four. That's almost a five. I'm telling you. See, that's a good. That's good.

It's a hot four. I'm telling you. You did a good job. She playing gave you more than what I was going to give you. What you gave me? It wasn't on the scale that you put it in. Between one and ten. I needed to be lower than one.

That's messed up. I needed negative energy. Listen, you gave me something to work with. I got, see, I can throw a bunch of auto-tune on that and make something happen. Auto-tune, that sound like a ten. Man, you can use auto-tunes, cartoons, ain't enough tunes, looney tunes,

ain't enough tunes to make that boy sound good. T-Base, stop playing. I'm telling you, I didn't heard a lot of real bad singers get turned into real good singers. Just a little bit of engineering. They sound like him? I mean, a little bit worse, actually. Oh, my goodness. There we go.

Some critically acclaimed artists. Really? Yeah, some of these artists, y'all think. So auto-tunes can do that? Oh, man, let me tell you. That's why everybody some of these artists, y'all think. So all the tours can do that? Oh, man, let me tell you. That's why everybody thought I was fake winning. They didn't know how talented you actually were because you had it. Yeah, yeah.

Now, you got to be able to make it sound good. You got to sing in some kind of capacity to make it sound good. But with the right engineer and a bunch of money behind you, absolutely. There we go. Well, he need an engineer from MIT. Georgia Tech. Both of y'all rich enough to do anything you want to. No, no, no.

I got to stay in my wheelhouse. No, no, no. I know you're hiring your financiers from all these people. I'm sorry. I'm here to tell y'all. Ocho the cheap one. I mean, I spend. Even though he was on a bombardier the other day.

Nope. Nope. I didn't pay for nothing. You didn't pay for nothing? I didn't pay for nothing. No, sir. And they think I'm flying back with them. It ain't happening. I didn't pay for nothing. You didn't pay for nothing? I didn't pay for nothing. No, sir. And they think I'm flying back with them.

It ain't happening. Why not? No, absolutely. That was very uncomfortable. It just wasn't me. I like, listen, I ain't even got a fucking pre-check.

I ain't got pre-check. People say... You got to figure that out. Listen, me and my old lady, we go to the airport. She got a pre-check. She say, why don't you give me

a pre-check? For what? What am I paying $85 for? And we get to the gate at the same time? We board at the same time. We land at the same time. What's the point?

It's $85 a year. No, you don't understand. Listen. It's $85 a year. Do y'all understand? Y'all understand what I'm saying? No. No.

Listen, listen to me. If y'all got pre-checked, right? Okay. We get to the airport at the same time. Okay. All y'all go through-checked, right? Okay. We get to the airport at the same time. Okay. All y'all go through first. Okay.

I go stand in line with the people. When they call the board, we still board at the same time. So where's the fucking convenience? You waited two hours and I was sitting in the Sky Club. But we still boarding at the same time. I don't care, but I'm at the same time. We board at the same time. So y'all ain't good with saving money, man.

At the same time. No, it don't make no sense. You still going to be in the line with the people. I'm going to be at the gate like, he about to miss this. But you at the same time? Y'all ain't good with saving money, man. You still going to be in the line with the people. I'm going to be at the gate like, he about to miss this. But you at the gate. Yeah. I'm going to have to, because I'm one of the ones. I will leave your ass. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I will leave this nigga, man. Y'all don't understand. Y'all don't understand the value of dollars. We do understand, because you're going to come through, because you're one of them people that be stuffing all your jewelry in one pocket in your backpack. Yeah. I know that. Yeah, they're going to check that. It's one of the people that be stuffing all your jewelry in one pocket in your backpack. Yeah. I know that.

Yeah. Yeah. They're going to check that. It's going to show up black on the screen at the TSA. They're going to check that. Y'all not thinking logically. This your bag? I am.

Is this your bag, sir? Sir, is this your bag? First class. I'm going to have to run it again, okay? All right. All right. I'm going to need you to take all this stuff. Can you take all the electronics out?

I see an iPad in here. You can't bring the iPad through, sir. You cannot bring the iPad. If it got a keyboard on it, you got to take it out. Exactly. What's all this stuff? Can you take all the electronics? I see an iPad in here. You can't bring the iPad through, sir. You cannot bring the iPad. If it got a keyboard on it, you got to take it out. Exactly. What's all this right here? Is that water?

That's not water? Okay, I'm going to have to run it again, okay? And then they take all your shit out. Yeah. And then they run it again. And then they say, okay, thank you. Have a nice day.

And all your shit, all your shit still sprawled out all over the goddamn table. Exactly. I don't travel like that. I don't travel goddamn table. I don't travel like that. I don't travel like that. I'm at the gate with Apple Vision Pro on. You putting all your

shit back in your bag. You fly first class? Yeah. You fly first class? Absolutely. All y'all fly first class? Yeah, mostly. I'm just asking. I only fly exit row. You fly first class? Ex exit row. You fly first exit row.

13A Spirit Airlines. 13A Spirit Airlines every time. See, that's a seat with responsibilities. I ain't doing that. That's a seat with responsibilities. Yeah, because if you're at exit row, you got to be able to open the doors. What's the point? Yes, and I can fly too.

I got my pilot's license. First of all, let me tell you, ma'am, I don't know how much this door weighs. You got to let me get a practice run or some shit before we take off. I don't know how much this is. I'm like, yeah, I can handle that shit as soon as we going down. I picked that. Oh, wait, bitch. Hold on.

This shit is. Nah. Hey, ma'am, I'm going to need about two of y'all. Hey, somebody else. You ask somebody else. Does somebody else want to sit here? Somebody else. Is there a doctor in the goddamn plane, bitch?

I don't know. Y'all don't understand. Everybody love first class. Oh, I'm in first class. I'm in exit row. When the plane land, we still get off at the same fucking time. No, you don't. Yeah.

No, you don't. No, you don't. You know why? Why? Because I'm getting off, and then it's that one old-ass man that can't get his bag down. Right. And your ass is stuck on the plane and I'm sitting at the gate again with an Apple Vision Pro on

like this nigga ain't even coming. I don't know. Y'all don't understand, man. We do understand. This is why we do what we do. First class is a waste of money. Pre-check is a waste of money. We all get to the same destination at the same time. We get on the plane at We all get to the same destination at the same time.

I get it. We get on the plane at the same time. We deplane at the same time. So let me ask you a question. It make no sense. Let me ask you a question. When you was growing up and you was thinking about making money and getting out, so what did you want to do? So you wanted to make money to stay the exact same?

You don't dress the same you did when you was in Liberty City. I look just like this. No, you don't. You have a Cuban? Yes. Man, stop lying. I had a Cuban at 14. Boy, you was born in Churchmice. No, you don't. You have a Cuban? Yes. Man, stop lying. I had a Cuban at 14. Boy, you was born in Church, Mice. No.

Boy, you, a robber broke in your house in Liberty City, y'all robbed him. No, no, no. Tied him up and everything. I have a question. Y'all saw Griselda? So? Y'all saw Griselda. You ain't see Griselda? Yes. Man, I was a runner for Griselda back in 88. Oh, my God.

Oh, so you didn't even run track. I promise you. This man talking was a runner for Griselda back in 88. Oh, my God. Oh, so you didn't even run track. I promise you. This man talking about a runner. I was a runner. I don't know what's going on. No, Griselda was in Kendall. I understand what's going on. Yeah, I worked for Big Ike.

I'm telling you. Baby. I can't. All I know is baby be dressing. Baby be spending that money. So I don't know what you're doing, but I know is Babe A be dressing Babe A be spending that money So I don't know what you're doing But I know babe A Yeah

I mean listen I'm here to tell my stories And I'm just telling you the truth I can sing I don't like pre-checking I don't need first class Yeah So you don't spend the money

Rayelle's spending She's spending her own money No that's you spending your money Shit me Well that's why she said Hey Rayelle Preen up Preen up Yeah That's fine I'm not spending my own money. No, that's you spending your money. Shit me. Well, that's why she said, hey, Ram, prenup, prenup. Yeah.

That's fine. So she can continue to spend her money. That's right. I ain't signing it. And you can't spend none of it. I'm not signing it. That's okay. If she decides to leave me, I'm leaving with something.

You ain't leaving with nothing. Leave what you came with. That's it. The McDonald's coupons. You got to sign it. Take them all with you. You got to sign it. You got to sign it.

You got to sign it. Ram, you hear T-Pain? You got to sign it. You got to sign it. Take them all with you. You got to sign it. You got to sign it. You got to sign it. Well, you hear T-Pain? You got to sign it. You got to sign it. It's like the Apple terms and conditions. What you going to do? Not use it?

Yeah, you got to sign it. That's what it is. It's like insurance. I ain't really trying to go out there and hit somebody, but if I do, I need to know

it's taken care of. Absolutely. Well, they say she's trying to divorce you, but just in case, she need all what care of. L.A. says she's trying to divorce you but just in case she need all what she can. You need all

you need security. You need you know you need that you need that insurance. It's not happening. I need security. The same lifestyle

that she No, no, no. It ain't even Listen, you got to understand the same lifestyle that she's provided me since she came into my life I'm leaving with that.

I don't you got to understand, if we didn't have these lights up here, the people that's the color of us, if we didn't have these lights, we'd be just teeth and eyes up here. You know what I mean? We got to have some kind of backup plan or something.

It's some lighter hue people out here. They ain't got no problems. We got the problems. We can't be seen like that. We can't have tinted windows. You got to have that insurance. You got to be ready to crash. You got to have it.

All right, you're right. You're right. I'm just protecting myself. I get it. I get it. So collabs, how many features, how many collabs are on the album with you? I mean, typically, I like to get the song done

and then get the features afterwards. Go ahead. You said a feature. Collab? Huh? I rap. Oh. Yeah, I rap.

You do? Let me hear something. Huh? Let me hear something. Go ahead. I'm not the one to play with. They call me Ocho. Bitch, I got an itch.

That's it. That's it for now. Okay, a little freestyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little something. You can write for me. It ain't nobody going to know. Okay. Yeah.

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