Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Best of Pop Culture, featuring: Snoop Dogg, T-Pain, & Rick Ross interviews

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson relive some of the best moments talking Pop Culture this summer! Snoop Dogg stopped by to discuss the Super Bowl performances and Unc and Ocho watch Lady Ga...ga in the Opening Ceremony of the 2024 Olympics! Also, enjoy interviews from T-Pain and Rick Ross!03:13 - Snoop Dog joins the show08:19 - Rough Draft: Best Rap Albums14:39 - Lil Wayne not chosen for Super Bowl half time performance24:49 - Unc & Ocho praise Lady Gaga’s Olympic performance30:04 - Snoop Dogg's transformation33:00 - T-Pain joins the live show in Vegas51:00 - Rick Ross joins the live show in Houston(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:31 I think I heard that you're working with Dr. Dre and you got some music coming out. When is that going to drop? This year? Early next year? Me, Snoop, and Dre. This nigga Chad a fool.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm sorry i i i took i took a i took a little nap a little cat nap i'm back now back now i'm going to see dre tomorrow to go finish it up it's called missionary it's a it's a record we've been working on for a while it's 30 years in the making it's the first time me and him did a whole record together since doggy style and i feel like we both on our a game right now we both are like really peaking like he's proud of me i'm proud of him and we challenging each other one thing about me and him it ain't always like you know happy happy happy it's like we challenge each other and that's what brings us the best right of us is that i'm willing to go sit down and be challenged. As hot as I am, as big as I am, I put that to the backseat and said, fuck that, I want to go sit with Dre and let him do all the shit he do
Starting point is 00:04:33 as if I was a rookie so that way I can fine-tune my shit and not be cocky and conceited but be a student again. When you go work with Dre, obviously he's at the top of the pecking order when it comes to producers that does what he does. And you go in there and you are who you are. How do you find that balance between him pushing you and you're like, hey, hold up now, you know I'm the D-O-W-G, right? The balance is when I'm with him, if you watch our whole careers together,
Starting point is 00:05:03 he's always been in the driver's seat. I've never been in a driver's seat. If you watch all of the videos and all of the depictions of me and him, he was always I started off in the backseat and D.O.C. was in the passenger seat. Then I moved to the passenger seat. Correct. And then I was able to adjust the music and I was able to roll the windows down. I was able to put some girls in the backseat. But I never was able to grab the steering wheel to drive because I would crash. He's a better driver at this than I am. I'm better being in the passenger seat,
Starting point is 00:05:35 making sure that, you know, I'm doing the shit that I do. I know my role. I know that he's the quarterback and I know that I have to run my routes and I know that sometimes's the quarterback, and I know that I have to run my routes, and I know that sometimes I may not get the ball or we may not pass, but I don't give a fuck. I'm going to block hard. I'm going to do all the shit I got to do. So when he do finally throw me that, when he finally throw me that, motherfucker, I'm wide open. I got the coldest end of the day.
Starting point is 00:05:57 You niggas have never seen. So, Luke, we're going to get you out of here on this one. There's a lot been said. Obviously, when the Super Bowl came to L.A., Dr. Dre, you, 50 was up there. You brought out Em. You had Mary J. Now the Super Bowl goes to New Orleans and the native son, Lil Wayne, and that goes to one of your colleagues.
Starting point is 00:06:20 You know K-Doc Kendrick Lamar had an unbelievable summer, but he does unbelievable music. I think he's one of Dre's protege. Where are you on that? I mean, obviously, you know, you being in L.A., you can't have performers in L.A. doing a halftime show and D-O-W-G ain't up there. Where are you at on this situation, Snoop?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Well, I don't really have no opinion, but what I do want to say is that just remember what the NFL was 15 years ago when it comes to hip hop. How many hip hop artists was able to grace that stage 15 years ago? So I understand both sides of the coin and I understand how people feel. I have no answer, no opinion, because I had the opportunity to get up there via Dr. Dre.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I didn't do any Snoop Dogg songs. I was up there helping Dr. Dre, and it became a great moment for all of us. So anytime anybody can get on that Super Bowl stage, remember this. It's a 12-, 13-minute performance, and you're not getting paid. So it's more or less you have to spend money to upgrade your show to make it master appealing for the audience that's home watching. So at the same time, Lil Wayne is the GOAT of New Orleans rap. Remember I was at No Limit Records for three years and I watched his whole career come to life and then watched him become the biggest. I watched him
Starting point is 00:07:41 get bigger than me. You feel what I'm saying? And I was gigantic at the time. And I loved seeing his growth. And me and Wayne is family to this day. Me and Kendrick is family to this day. And me and Jay-Z and me and Roger Goldale. So I don't know who is the decision maker. All I know is that I'll be home watching the Super Bowl. And when the halftime show come on, I'll be watching that as well.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Okay. Nah, you need to be in New Orleans because we're going to be on tour. Nightcap is going to have a tour Thursday night, so we need you to be one of the guests on the platform. You got to have some crawfish and some gumbo. That's the only way you're going to get me there. We'll have whatever you want. You want crawfish, gumbo.
Starting point is 00:08:18 We got that Che Balaporte all day. We got whatever you need. Hey, hey, we got the blood. Hey, we got somebody that already got it. We got a roll need. Hey, hey, we got the blood. Hey, we got somebody that already got we got a roll in the back just so you know if yours is tied up, we got a roll out back to the A. I love it. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I'm ready. I'm ready to rap. I got a secret. All right, Ocho. Yo. Now it's time for rough. We hadn't had this segment in a while. Now it's time for rough draft. Rough draft. Rough draft in a while. Now it's time for rough draft. Rough draft, rough draft, rough draft. Okay, Ocho. So today's show is prompted by best rap albums.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Oh. Best rap albums, you know, with the Super Bowl got us to thinking, okay, who is this, who is that, where you go with this and that. So the best rap album oh whoa whoa hold on this this is this is difficult it's very difficult okay let me who going first me or you am i first oh joe you first all right best rap album life after death Death. That's the two-disc album, right? I'm just throwing this out there. Life After Death, Biggie Smalls
Starting point is 00:09:30 because that's a classic. I'm going all eyes on me. Tupac. Okay. Give me Nas, Illmatic's album. I'm going to take The Chronic. Oh, great. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That's a good one. Okay. Give me Jay-Z's reasonable doubt. Okay. Give me. I'm gonna go Outcast ATA Oh shit You know what
Starting point is 00:10:18 This is Rap too Lil Wayne This is rap too. Lil Wayne. Carter 1, 2, and 3. I would take Jay-Z Blueprint. It's my last one right here, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Give me Juvenile 400 Degrees. Okay. I'm going to take Snoop D-O-double G. What? Doggy style? Doggy style. The one with the doghouse on the front? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Okay, that was a good one. But I won this rough draft, though. All right. Now who you – okay. We got honorable mention. You get two honorable mention picks. Honorable mention. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:11:14 The chat might not agree with this. This is during my time when I lived in LA. One of my favorite artists. So I want to give him that honorable mention. Dub C. I don't know if you know who Dub C is.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Don't. Yeah. Dub, Dub, Dub C. Man, hell. I'm going to take DMX first one. Ah, that's okay. Anything with DMX is hard, but I would take that first album. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And listen, you know, I talk a lot. I'm smooth with the tongue. Some of the things I love to say, a lot of people might not agree with this. They might not agree with this decision, but this is someone that I enjoy listening to, and that's Sugar Free. That's Sugar Free. And that's that sugar free. That's sugar free. And that's that's any album because he be talking. And y'all might not know about him. You know, if you're from the West Coast, you probably do.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I'm going sugar for you with my honorable mention. M. I'm going M&M. M? You can't go wrong with that. I don't think our generation here understands how good and iconic M was during his day, during his run, but he was nice. Yeah. You know what's funny? And speaking of rap, I don't listen to rap chat. I don't listen to it like that. I don't listen to rap like that. You know, I'm old school, blue, jazz, you know, classical, opera, stuff like that. But, Chad, I know y'all know who Sauce Walker is.
Starting point is 00:12:52 You know who Sauce Walker is, Unc? I don't. Man, listen. I just got hip to Sauce Walker. Man, he real. He be spitting, especially when he talk. You know, he be. I like him.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I enjoy him. And there's a song that Sauce Walker has, man, that speaks to me. It speaks to me. It's not an environment or circumstance that I come from, but listen to the, the, the, the, the pain in his voice when he taught, it's a song called peace treaties. Okay. I know you probably, you probably ain't gonna listen to a chat. If y'all know about the song by Sauce Walker called Peace Treaties, I've been listening to the same
Starting point is 00:13:28 song on repeat. It's not even that long. It ain't even two minutes long. It's just what he's saying. I can feel the pain in his voice when he's rapping. It's called Peace Treaties. If anybody knows Sauce Walker, tell him I said, man, bro, I salute you. If you want to get in the booth together, I'll let
Starting point is 00:13:43 you boy. Yeah, I we left off for 50 get rich or die trying. Oh, we left off for NWA. Straight out of Compton. Okay. Hey, we left off Rock Hill being Rock Hill. Hey, T.I.
Starting point is 00:14:00 It's a lot. It's so many ways we could have gone. It's so many ways we could have gone based on on our preference so many ways we could have gone. It's so many ways we could have gone based on our preference. Hell, I could have went Crucial Conflict. I mean, looking at ours, we're kind of like old school. We ain't really got nobody new on here. We got all them old dogs, man. So I went with All Eyes On Me, The Chronic, AT Aliens,
Starting point is 00:14:28 Jay-Z Blueprint, Snoop Dogg, Doggy Style, DMX, Autumn Adventure was DMX, and Eminem. Ocho went Life After Death, Life After Death, Nas, Illmatic, thought you was going with God, son. Reasonable Doubt, Jay-Z. Little Way, he got the call to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Juvenile. Out of a bitch and he went dumb, see, and sugar-free.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah. Man, Ocho, you dirty, man. All right, Ocho. What's your take, Ocho? I have a question. I got a question, huh? I love Wayne. That's my dog, man. Yep. You know? Been in the love Wayne. That's my dog.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Been in the studio with him back in the day. No name in the few songs. I understand where he's coming from. Super Bowl being held in your hometown hometown what better place for you to represent for your people and the fans and i thought to myself how many years has the super bowl been in new orleans man it's been in new orleans more than any damn place right so i'm curious they had it in 2012 uh it was there in 90s when the Packers beat the Patriots. It was there when the Rams lost to the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It was there when the lights went out and the Ravens beat the 49ers. It was there in 77 when the Cowboys beat the Broncos. That's four times off the top of my head. I think it's been there about So I'm only asking. Why are you laughing? Ask me. Tell me. I will say 12? 10. It's been there 10 times
Starting point is 00:16:27 okay I'll say I'm only asking obviously this is not the first time that it's been in New Orleans no no it's been there 10 times yeah okay of course but Luane has never been hired or asked to perform what makes the difference this year?
Starting point is 00:16:46 I'm just curious. So maybe you can answer better. Maybe the chat can answer better than me. I think because of what happened when it was in L.A. And when it was in L.A., they got Dre. They had Snoop. And they paid homage to, you know. And so I'm sure Wayne was
Starting point is 00:17:05 thinking like damn Usher because he had a residency smoking I don't know if you got a chance to see Usher but that's I'm real I'm real
Starting point is 00:17:20 oh man he did it so Weezy like well damn well, damn, hold on. LA, they got the hip hop. You know, they got the, you know, Boom Boom, Dre. They had 50. They had M. They had D-O-double-G. Mary J.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Okay. Vegas. Usher. I mean, what are they going to bring? They're going to bring Troy, Wayne, Newton ass out there. You know, they're like nah so Wayne was like okay hey you know we there baby
Starting point is 00:17:50 and you know New Orleans and it didn't happen I get his frustration I'm like you Ochoa I can see both sides because we've never it's never been like think about it when it was in Atlanta they had Maroon 5 think about what think about it you had was in atlanta they had maroon five
Starting point is 00:18:11 think about what all think about it you had temp you had luda you had future you had uh uh uh uh uh uh two chains you had uh what's the other the group uh uh andre 3000 big boy okay they loaded you got babyface you got jermaine Dupree. You had Usher then. You had – Bro! Yeah. Hey, they have – think about it. They have Maroon 5. Yeah, hey, hold on.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Maroon 5 got some hits tonight. I'm not saying they don't. But you would think in Atlanta, you're like, damn, you ain't going to play no homage to what they got? Right. So I get it. But, you know, look, I mean, I don't know. I can understand his frustration.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But it's not like, okay, such and such is from, listen, we know. Beyonce can't do it every year. And Taylor Swift, that's who they want. Let's be all the way with her. They want Taylor. But Taylor's like, I don't need that. I mean, Beyonce didn't need it. But Beyonce did them a courtesy.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah. She did him a courtesy. Yeah. She did him a courtesy because you don't get paid for it and you come out your pocket. Yeah. Yeah. Remember what I said? I mean, everyone's up in arms, even though Lil Wayne came out and spoke about it. It still has to do a set. He has to do a set.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I'm not sure if they have music together, but Lil Wayne might make a surprise. That was one of the first things I said. He might make a surprise. You never know. You never know what Kendrick may do. I'm not sure. They talk about, oh, but we don't want Taylor. You don't, but the NFL
Starting point is 00:19:59 do. Oh, yeah. I don't think they understand what she does for the eye visibility, the exposure. They want that different crowd of eyes. What was that number when she came out
Starting point is 00:20:16 and kind of like her support for Kamala? How many people signed up to vote? It was crazy. I saw that. Like 800,000 people registered within 24 hours? Yeah. Right. Okay, man.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Y'all better stop. Look. Y'all might not like her, but she's an earthquake. 400,000. Yeah. She's an earthquake. Like I said, Beyonce can't perform every year. Beyonce say, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:20:44 As a matter of fact beyonce was at 50 with uh with a cold play i think she did i think she did a set with cold play at super bowl 50 i was there um i know she was in new orleans because i was there uh like i've been i've been to a couple of them you You know, obviously, I was with CBS in Miami when Prince did it, playing Purple Rain, and it starts to rain. Ooh, it started raining. And to see, man, that little man can sing. That little man.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Lord. Not only sing, perform. That's what he is. He's a performer. Hold on. And then can play every goddamn instrument. Piano, the guitar. Oh, he.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Hold on. Real deal. Oh, man. Prince is pretty amazing, man. When he had that group, you know, look, I understand the new power generation. But when he was with Wendy and Lisa, the Andre Simone. What you know about that, man? Come on now. Hey, Prince might be the only one to be able to wear heels and get all of them.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Platform to get all the women. Cat suit. Platforms to get all the women. Cat suit. Hair perm. Get all the women. Cat suit. Get all the women. Hey, boy. Boy, ain't nothing like good old cat suit.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. Listen. Boy, yeah. Oh, boy. Listen. Boy, listen. Damn. Yeah, Michael was in 93, I think, when Michael performed at the Super Bowl. I think Michael was in Pasadena. Isn't that where he performed at?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Because that was like the first Super Bowl I went to. I was a baby. It was 93. I didn't go to the game, but that was the first the NFL invited me, and I had stuff I did. Yeah, I get it. I mean, you know, like I said, I think me, I'm kind of empathetic because I know Wayne.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I know him personally. Yeah. But know him personally. Yeah. But it's tough. Like, you want to perform in front of your – in your city. And like I said, I hope – I hope that Kendrick will at least bring him out, let him do a couple of songs. It'd be live. Made for This Mountain is a podcast
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Starting point is 00:29:21 Lady Gaga. Is that Gaga, right? Is that Gaga or am I tripping? Let's see. She's still covered up. Oh, that's the tattoo. It looked like Gaga. That is.
Starting point is 00:29:44 That's Gaga. I'm sorry that i know by that tattoo but oh i know a little bit too much hey i was gonna ask if y'all used to date but i just let i let that one go on the back i let that one go on back nah but uh you know you you know you look at the costumes and the makeup that sometimes you wear sometimes she can really really sing don't you yeah oh well she could blow that way forget singing don't she is a performer have you ever seen her perform yes she puts on a performance there are certain people that are singers and entertainers. They have this wonderful thing called stage presence. She has stage presence and commands the eye every time she's up there.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Don't, don't. You know, sometimes, you know, you get lost up. Oh, she got all that makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The costumes, the accessories. Hey, if you take all of that away and tell her to come out here and she pulls up a stool and sit up there, she can let you have it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 With the best of them now. Absolutely. This is a great opening ceremony, but I've been very, very fortunate, Ocho, that I've seen a lot of them. I go back to 1984 when it was in L.A., the last time it was in L.A. And you come back in 96 when Muhammad Ali lit the cauldron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Nothing. Barcelona, when the guy, the archer, if I'm not mistaken, he fired the arrow and it lit the cauldron. And it went right into, yeah, that was dope. 2008 Beijing is the greatest opening ceremony I had ever seen. 2008? 2008 in Beijing. Why you say that?
Starting point is 00:31:32 The way they, the pageantry, those drums, what they had, and if I'm not mistaken, they said they'd been rehearsing this for over a year. And it was how many people that they had to have to get this thing coordinated and everybody was beating on rhythm everybody was moving on rhythm um chad it'd be interesting to
Starting point is 00:31:53 see what you guys think what do you think was the greatest opening ceremony for me it was 2008 beijing now i don't go back past 84 obviously, in 80, it was boycotted because it was held in Moscow because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. 76, it was in Montreal. 72, it was in Munich. So I was born in 68 when it was in Mexico City. So I don't go back that far. I go back to 84. So that's about 30 years.
Starting point is 00:32:19 For my 30 years, Beijing was the greatest opening ceremony. And if they look at Ocho, now she on the piano. Stop playing with them, Gaga. You ain't got to play a lot like this. Gaga is a very, very, very extremely talented artist. Gaga can do a multitude of things. Hey, Ocho, Gaga said, hey. That can do a multitude of things. Hey, Ocho Gaga said, hey,
Starting point is 00:32:48 this to entertain Olympics too. I'm letting y'all know. Oh, yeah. I'm a decathlete. I can sing, I can dance, I can play instruments. Hey, they picked the right one. They picked the right one to do it now. I don't know. I know I mean I'm always like I said I'm impressed when I look at a Beyonce and I see her mood the way she moved for hours and dance with them heels on and stay on key never tired yes yep man Never tired. Yes. Yep. Mesh. It's a few of a man that are special at what they do.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah. I got one of them. Beyonce is another one. Anytime. Anytime you can do more than one thing. And you can do more than one thing. You sing and dance. You sing and play the piano or play the guitar,
Starting point is 00:33:45 whatever the case may be anytime you can do because you understand you have the breathing have to be on point to be able to sing now what about your breathing go to another level when you got to dance now it has to be on another level when you sing it and you playing an instrument playing instrument yeah you tip your hat you i mean look greatness comes in many shapes forms and sizes and many different things. Just because athletes, sometimes we just get it confused. Like, only athletes can be great. No.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Doctors can be great. Lawyers can be great. Obviously, there's greatness in a different form, but greatness is greatness. Oh, yeah. It's Pitbull. No, that ain't Pitbull. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Hey, I'm talking about that's Pitbull. Nah. Nah. Yeah. Well, it'd be French. Somebody said, nah, that's Laputo. Chad is funny. Man, I did,
Starting point is 00:34:43 when I first thought, I looked up, I said, man, Vin Diesel? Oh, his name is Rimka. Rimka, he's a French rapper. Yeah. Hey, they need to hook me up with one of them flannels, Ocho. Yeah, that thing nice, boy.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But for that price point, I'm good. I can go right to... I can wait till it's winter and get some nice flannels from God, look at Snoop. Snoop loose. Man, look here. I don't care what anybody say.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Nobody has gone a bigger transformation than Snoop. Look at where he was in the mid-90s with that situation where he was in the mid 90's with that situation and he's become the world's best beloved
Starting point is 00:35:30 has a show with Martha Stewart he's one of the most recognizable faces one of the most recognizable names in all the world and what he's been able to do is nothing short of man amazing and he you know what
Starting point is 00:35:49 it couldn't happen to a nicer guy because you meet snoop i met snoop back in 93 at deon prime had a celebrity basketball game when he was with the fivecons. And I met Snoop. Man, that joker, man, he's been the same from 93 until 2024. Some people just make like Magic Johnson is another guy. Man, you meet Magic.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Magic make you feel like Magic. You think Magic been knowing you your whole damn life. He gonna ask you about your brother, your sister, how your mom doing. He gonna ask you. I mean, your sister, how your mom doing. He gonna ask you. I mean, every time he see you, Snoop is the exact same way. Oh, yeah. Legends.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Ocho, see, they could have had you, boy. They could have had me and you and Ocho. Stop, girl. Stop. Yes, honey. One foot in front of the other the Ocho. Stop, girl. Stop. Yes, honey. One foot in front of the other. I like the energy, too. Look at the energy. Yeah, give me face.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Face. You can pull that off, Ocho. You can pull that off. I could. Yeah, you can pull that off. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, look at that. I just love the way they step.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I didn't want to see them step on you. That's it. I'll see. Yes, that's how it happens because we love Tom Brady. Oh! T-Pain, what's up, bro? No, no, no. Come on, have a seat.
Starting point is 00:37:21 No, no, no. Have a seat. Have a seat. What did I do? You joined in. I was just saying what's up. So, okay, have a seat. No, no, no. Have a seat. Have a seat. What did I do? You joined in. I was just saying what's up. So, okay, we ask everybody. I mean, kind of 50-50, Chiefs, 49ers.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Who do you like for the season? You know what, man? You know, everybody always asks me what my favorite team is, and I've done a lot of halftime shows, so it's kind of whoever paying me for the week. But, I mean, at this juncture, man, you know, I hate to base it off of my relationships, but I do know Taylor Swift personally, so I got to kind of. You go with the Chiefs?
Starting point is 00:37:56 I don't want to, but it's, you know, all that money in them boxes up there. You want to stick around the checks, you know what I mean? Yeah. I just don't want to weigh my own. I want to outweigh my chances. Right. But, you know, hey, man, good luck to everybody. But at the same time, only one of them done paid me so far.
Starting point is 00:38:16 What happened? I'm going to ask you this. There have been a lot of fans are upset. They say they show Taylor too much and not focus on what's going on in the field. What do you think about that? Are they showing Taylor too much? I think they show celebrities the same amount. I think they show Jack Nicholson a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:33 They used to. I think they show Spike Lee a lot. Anybody that show up, I think they show Lil Wayne a lot. But, you know, it's a white lady. So, you know, everybody goes. You it's a white lady, so, you know, everybody gonna get noticed a little easier. Are you doing, are you performing, or are you in town
Starting point is 00:38:53 for the Super Bowl? Well, I'll start my residency tonight at Zouk, right there, right next door, so I was just coming to say what's up. I still ain't took a shower today so I'm going to go ahead and do that. I want to ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I've heard you sing and I've heard you sing songs and you didn't have auto-tunes. What made you decide to use auto-tunes when your voice is as good as anything we have? Because if I would have came out singing I would have just sounded like everybody else. No, you don't sound like everybody else. It would have just been
Starting point is 00:39:26 another voice. You know what I mean? So there's nothing special about it. There's people in this crowd that can sing, that can out-sing me right now. I'm sure there is. Not in this? Seiko. Yeah. Yeah. You heard that new Toby and Seiko?
Starting point is 00:39:41 That's crazy. I would have just been another voice. You know what I mean? Especially, you know. In the rap game. Dark skin, dreads. Wasn't a lot of space for me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:52 When I came out, it had to be light skin, low haircut. It was a lot going on. I had to be able to dance. I was fat. It was a lot going on. It had a lot going against me. Wasn't really working out for me. But no, I made it through because there was something different about my voice you know what i mean so i needed something to break through the fog
Starting point is 00:40:09 i heard the other day you talking about how you wrote a lot of songs or you've been writing songs for country musicians and the credits was kind of getting you in trouble because you was getting some blowback and you was like man if that just cut me to check don't put my name in here yeah no it wasn't really blowback. It was just like, I don't know what we can say on the show. You good, you good. We rated R. The comments on there was just like, with an N word?
Starting point is 00:40:33 It was a lot of N word. It was a lot of it. It was a bunch. That was primarily the word that I saw a lot. Anytime somebody said I had anything to do with this song, I was like, what's this doing on this song? Why you got anything to do with the N? I thought you were a patriot. It was just a lot of that But did you check clear Oh the check always clear and it cleared on time. That's the crazy thing country music It's very punctual very
Starting point is 00:41:03 You deal with some of these some of these darker companies, and they give you that 90 days. The contract says 90 days. We're going to send it to 91. Babe, do you remember when you was growing up, and they asked you to post date of the check? Oh, absolutely not. Don't pass this.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I put a Friday on it. Don't you take your ass to the bank on Thursday. You can just not cash this for me real quick. I'm going to come back on Tuesday. I'm going to let you know if you can cash it then, but probably don't do it then. If it's Wednesday, I'm going to just cut you another check. I'm going to come to pay you another one because I'm going to move banks. You see, Bank of America, they're messing me up.
Starting point is 00:41:35 See what I'm saying? So I'm going to move to Chase, and I'm going to come right to a Chase one. If that don't work, I'm going to need you to go to Western Union and with Dixie, and then we can probably just make it work from there. It don't work. It's just too many steps, too steps. What you want to say? Oh, Joe. I Want to have a sing-off I Want to have a single I gotta sing tonight think I got a did you come into a residency? I could matter of fact, let me perform with you. Come on up there. No, I'm serious
Starting point is 00:42:02 You have the shortest you have the shortest residency in Vegas. That's gonna be one night only with T-Pain featuring Ocho. No, no, no, no, no. Listen, I moved the needle now. I can sing. If you want an example, let me know. Go ahead. Hit a note rack.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Go ahead. Move the needle. You gotta take a shot. Hold on. Got me fucked up. You got to stand up, because you know you got to stand up some jack. You gotta take a shot. Hold on. Got me fucked up. You gotta stand up because you gotta stand up to project.
Starting point is 00:42:28 The diaphragm and stuff. Ah. That was it. That was the... I'm so in love with you. I know one of those notes. Whatever you want me to. One of those.
Starting point is 00:42:48 That's it. That's it. That's what it is. Hold on. You got to do the. I'll do right. Jim. You, you.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Sure. Yeah. I'll take that. What you think? What you think? I'll take that. That was. One to ten.
Starting point is 00:42:59 One to ten. Be honest. Be honest. Because my vocal coach ain't here. She in Miami. I will say this. On one to ten, that's a hot four. You did good. I honest. Be honest. Because my vocal coach ain't here. She in Miami. I will say this. On one to 10, that's a hot four. You did good.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I said a hot four. That's almost a five. I'm telling you. See, that's a good. That's good. It's a hot four. I'm telling you. You did a hot four. Did you plan to get you more than what I was going to get you? What you gave me? It wasn't on the scale that you put it in. Between one and 10. I needed to be lower than one.
Starting point is 00:43:24 That's messed up. Long as I'm a four. I needed negative energy. Listen, you gave me something to work with. I got, see, I can throw a bunch of auto-tune on that and make something happen.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Huh? Ah, auto-tune, that sound like a ten. Man, you can use auto-tunes, cartoons, ain't enough tunes, looney tunes, ain't enough tunes
Starting point is 00:43:41 to make that voice sound good. T-Base, stop it, see. I'm telling you, I didn't hurt a lot of real bad singers get turned into real good singers. It's just a little bit engineering. They sound like him? I mean, a little bit worse, actually. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Some critically acclaimed artists. Thank you. Really? Yeah, some of these artists, y'all think, y'all can do that? Oh, man, let me tell you. That's why everybody thought I was fake winning. They didn't know how talented you actually were because you had it.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yeah, yeah. Now, you got to be able to make it sound good. You got to sing in some kind of capacity to make it sound good. But with the right engineer and a bunch of money behind you, absolutely. There we go. Well, he need an engineer from MIT. Georgia Tech. Both of y'all rich enough to do anything you want to.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Oh, no, no, no. I got to stay in my wheelhouse. No, no, no. I know you're hiring your finances from all these people. I'm here to tell y'all. Ocho the cheap one. I mean, I spend. Even though he was on a bombardier the other day.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Nope. Nope. I didn't pay for nothing. You didn't pay for nothing? I didn't pay for nothing. No, sir. And they think I'm flying back with them. It ain't happening.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Why not? No, absolutely. That was very uncomfortable. It flying back with them. It ain't happening. Why not? No, absolutely. That was very uncomfortable. It just wasn't me. I like, listen, I ain't even got fucking pre-check. I ain't got pre-check. People say...
Starting point is 00:44:53 You got to figure that out. Listen, me and my old lady, we go to the airport. She got pre-check. She say, why don't you get pre-check? For what? What am I paying $85 for?
Starting point is 00:45:01 And we get to the gate at the same time. We board at the same time. Hotel. We land at the same time. Hotel. What the same time. We land at the same time. What's the point? It's $85 a year. No, you don't understand. Listen.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's $85 a year. Do y'all understand? Y'all understand what I'm saying? No. No. Listen, listen to me. If y'all got pre-checked, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:20 We get to the airport at the same time. Okay. All y'all go through first. Okay. I go stand in line with the people. When they call the board, we still airport at the same time. Okay. All y'all go through first. Okay. I go stand in line with the people. When they call the board, we still board at the same time. So where's the fucking convenience? You waited two hours and I was sitting in the Sky Club.
Starting point is 00:45:33 But we still boarding at the same time. I don't care, but I'm at the Sky Club. We board at the same time. That don't mean you good with saving money, man. At the same time. No, it don't make no sense. I'm going to be in the line with the people. I'm going to be at the gate like, he about to miss this.
Starting point is 00:45:45 But you at the gate. Yeah. I'm going to have to, because I'm one of the ones. I will leave your ass. Oh, yeah, for sure. I will leave this nigga, man. Y'all don't understand. Y'all don't understand the value of dollars.
Starting point is 00:45:55 We do understand, because you're going to come through, because you're one of them people that be stuffing all your jewelry in one pocket in your backpack. Yeah. I know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to check that. It's going to show up black on the screen at TSA. They're going to check that. It's going to show up black on the screen at the TSA.
Starting point is 00:46:06 They're going to check that. Y'all not thinking logically. This your bag? I am. Is this your bag, sir? Sir, is this your bag? First class. I'm going to have to run it again, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:14 All right. All right. I'm going to need you to take all this stuff. Can you take all the electronics out? I see an iPad in here. You can't bring the iPad through, sir. You cannot bring the iPad. If it got a keyboard on it, you got to take it out.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Exactly. What's all this right here? Is that water? That's not water? Okay. I cannot bring the iPad. If it got a keyboard on it, you got to take it out. Exactly. What's all this right here? Is that water? That's not water? Okay, I'm going to have to run it again, okay? And then they take all your shit out. Yeah. And then they run it again.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And then they say, okay, thank you. Have a nice day. And all your shit still sprawled out all over the goddamn table. Who's going to put that back in there? I don't travel like that. I'm at the gate with Apple Vision Pro on. You're putting all your shit back in your bag. You fly first class?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah, yeah. You fly first class? Absolutely. All y'all fly first class? Yeah, mostly. I'm just asking. I only fly exit row. You fly first class?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Exit row. 13A Spirit Airlines. 13A Spirit Airlines. 13A Spirit Airlines every time. See, that's a seat with responsibilities. That's a who? That's a seat with responsibilities. Yeah, because if you're at exit row, you got to be able to open the doors. Sarah, are you willing and able to help in the state of emergency?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yes, and I can fly too. I got my pilot's license. First of all, let me tell you, ma'am, I don't know how much this door weigh. You got to let me get a practice run or some shit before ma'am, I don't know how much this door weigh. You got to let me get a practice run or some shit before we take off. I don't know how much this is. I'm like, yeah, I can handle that shit as soon as we going down.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I picked that, oh, wait, bitch, hold on. This shit is, hey, ma'am, I'm going to need about two of y'all. Hey, somebody else. You ask somebody else. Does somebody else want to sit here? Somebody else. Is there a doctor in the goddamn plane, bitch?
Starting point is 00:47:41 I don't know. Y'all don't understand. Everybody love first class. Oh, I'm in first class. I'm in exit row. When the plane land, we still get off at the same fucking time. No, you don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 No, you don't. No, you don't. You know why? Why? Because I'm getting off, and then it's that one old-ass man that can't get his bag down. Right. And your ass is stuck on the plane, and I'm sitting at the gate again with an Apple Vision Pro on. Like, this nigga ain't even coming. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Y'all don't understand, man. We do understand. This is why we do what we do. First class is a waste of money. Pre-check is a waste of money. We all get to the same destination at the same time. We get on the plane at the same time. We deplane at the same time.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Let me ask you a question. It make no sense. Let me ask you a question. When you was growing up and you was thinking about making money and getting out, so what did you want to do? So you wanted to make money
Starting point is 00:48:32 to stay the exact same? You don't dress the same you did when you was in Liberty City. I look just like this. No, you don't. You have a Cuban? Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Man, stop lying. I had a Cuban at 14. Boy, you was born in Church, Mice. No. Boy, you, a robber broke in your house in Liberty City. Y'all robbed him. No, no, no. Tied him up and everything.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I have a question. Y'all saw Griselda? So? Y'all saw Griselda. You ain't see Griselda? Yes. Yeah, no, no, no. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Man, I was a runner for Griselda back in 88. Oh, my God. Oh, so you didn't even run track. I promise you. This man talking about a runner. He didn't run track. I wasn't running track. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:49:08 No, Griselda was in Kendall. I understand what's going on. Yeah, I work for Big Ike. I'm telling you. Baby. I can't. All I know is baby be dressing. Baby be spending that money.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So I don't know what you're doing, but I know baby. Yeah. Listen, I'm here to tell my. So I don't know what you doing, but I know baby. Listen, I'm here to tell my stories, and I'm just telling you the truth. I can sing. I don't like pre-checking. I don't need first class. So you don't spend the money Real's spending, huh? She spend her own money. No, that's you spending your money. Shit me.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Well, that's why she said, hey, Real, prenup, prenup. Yeah. That's fine. So she can continue prenup. Yeah. That's fine. So she can continue to spend her money. That's right. And you can't spend none of it. I'm not signing it. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:49:50 If she decides to leave me, I'm leaving with something. You ain't leaving with nothing. Leave what you came with. That's it. The McDonald's coupons. You got to sign it. Take them all with you. You got to sign it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 You got to sign it. You got to sign it. Ralph, you hear T-Pain? You got to sign it. You got to sign it. It's like the Apple terms and conditions. You got to do what you're going to do. Not use it. Yeah. You got to sign it. You got to sign it. Well, you hear T-Pain? You got to sign it. You got to sign it. It's like the Apple terms and conditions. What you going to do? Not use it?
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. You got to sign it. That's what it is. It's like insurance. I ain't really trying to go out there and hit somebody. But if I do, I need to know it's taken care of. Absolutely. Raleigh said she's trying to divorce you, but just in case, she need all what she can.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You need security. You need that insurance. It's not happening. I need security. The same lifestyle that she's... Listen, you got to understand. The same lifestyle that she's provided me since she came into my life, I'm leaving with that.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You got to understand, if we didn't have these lights up here, the people that's the color of us, if we didn't have these lights, we'd be just teeth and eyes up here. We got to have some kind of backup plan or something. It's some lighter-hued people out here. They ain't got no problems. We got the problems. We can't be seen like that.
Starting point is 00:51:01 We can't have tinted windows. You got to have that insurance. You got to be ready to crash. Yeah. All right. You're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I'm just protecting myself. I get it. I get it. Tonight is your first night. Tonight is the first night. What time? So how long are you here? I'm here until I'm leaving Sunday.
Starting point is 00:51:18 So it's only like a one or two night. I'm getting out of here before y'all niggas go crazy. I'm getting out. So if they came, if the NFL, Jay-Z, I think Jay-Z is responsible for the halftime show. They came to T-Pain and said, T-Pain, we want you to do the halftime show. You in? Absolutely. Absolutely. Why would I
Starting point is 00:51:35 not do that? That was a, that's a no-brainer. Is that a dream? Is that a lifelong dream? It's not a lifelong dream because I figured out sometimes you got to pay to perform and everything. I don't want to do that. I don't want to lose money coming to the Super Bowl. That's terrible. I got to come here to make money. Unless I go push
Starting point is 00:51:51 Usher off the stage and some shit. Then I'll do that. That'd be cool as hell. I think that'll make some headlines. Trip Usher real quick. Get your ass off that motherfucking stage. Go ahead. We got it. I'm going to take a shower. Y'all niggas is up here. I'm good. Hot hamburger lights and shit. I'm going to take a shower. Y'all niggas is up here. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Hot. Hamburger lights and shit. I'm going to see you. Ladies and gentlemen, T-Baggy. T. Y'all be good. Appreciate you, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Love. I'm going to see you. I'll be over there after the show. Come perform. Come do a song or something. All right. I got you. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah. T, I sure hope you finish before he get done. Lord, Hamburg. Why you do that? get done. Lord have mercy. Why you do that? I'm sprung. Why you do that? What'd I do? That.
Starting point is 00:52:32 That what? Oh my goodness. What'd I do? Man, I thought there was a goat with a head in the fence the way you was singing. Come on, I'll do that. You can't hold no note. You know I can hold a note now. He said I'm a four.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Scale of one to ten, a four. A four is good I ain't had no lessons In like seven years You know I I used to lead the choir Back in the day Ocho you ain't set foot
Starting point is 00:52:53 In the church in 40 years And you ain't but 43 Nah I'm 56 But I learned I'm just saying When my grandma My grandma had me in church I led the choir all the time
Starting point is 00:53:02 You don't even drive by a church I do The only church you been to Is Church's Chicken I. I led the choir all the time. You don't even drive by a church. I do. The only church you been to is Church's Chicken. I used to lead the choir. You want to see? No, I do not. Near the cross. No, you ain't been near no cross.
Starting point is 00:53:17 All right. No river. You ain't been to nothing. Why you do that? I know how to sing, man. I don't, man. I take my hat off the rail. You know what happened?
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Starting point is 00:59:16 Damn! Got a budget for the lawyer, though. Damn! What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening, what's happening, what's happening, what's happening? What they do, boy? Shit, let me hold something, boy. Shit, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Let me hold something. Boy, you can't. Yes. I'm proud of y'all, man. Y'all make some noise for these two right here, man. Boy, we appreciate you stopping by. I know you got a busy schedule. I follow you. I see what you got going on.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Business, man, it's always business. And for you to take time out, to Grace, Ocho, and I, much respect. It's too easy. Tell us about the book. You got a book called The Perfect Day to Balls Up. What made you write a book and the title?
Starting point is 01:00:10 It was only right. Every day is a perfect opportunity to go to that next level, straight up and down. Perfect Day to Write a Book, another collaboration, New York Times bestseller with my brother Neil Belkin, you know what I mean? And it was just about taking it to that next level and make it clear as possible for that next generation of entrepreneurs, just so they know, yo, this is realistic, extremely realistic. I had you on the podcast. You were one of my first guests on Club Shea Shea, and you was telling the story how you was always a hustler, that you would, hey, for a little extra money, you was washing cars would aim for a little extra money you washing cars but For a little extra money. Hey, I'm a rearranged your cassettes I'm gonna put them things in there and alphabetical orders all this time would do all this stuff
Starting point is 01:00:55 You always had the entrepreneur skill. You always had the ability to the foresight to see like, you know what? The home is gonna like this that's what it's all about take it to that next level whatever you got going on whoever your business partners are surprise them take them to that next level you see I got my brand up here I want to try yours as well but that's what it's all about I got my homie Jeremy slippery so he in here tonight so it's just all about always sharing that platform with my team and that's what we do we all see the progress we all grow you look back a decade later goddamn listen you got to think well we go we go way back by we go way back way back so I'm trying to think
Starting point is 01:01:44 when I think about artists today how important do you think it is for them to We go way back, boy. We go way back. Way back. So I'm trying to think. When I think about artists today, how important do you think it is for them to build their brand the way you have outside of the music industry? But the thing is, you had the success to be able to do it through music, which made the transition that much easier. Right. So how do you answer that question? It's one thing about building a brand, but you got to be good at the first part. That is your profession. Right. Right. Well, we all got to accept and be realistic about it. It's like going to the league. Everybody won't make it to the Hall of Fame. You being an artist, everybody may not know how to go out and really become that product or sell products. It's a lot of huge artists that can sell records,
Starting point is 01:02:27 but the young kids don't want to dress like them, so they can't sell clothes. They can't sell shoes. Nigga won't even wear they socks. You know what I'm saying? So everybody can't do everything, but what you do want to make clear is the opportunities that are out there. So if you're a young athlete, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:48 It's the NIL, the game changing right now. But it's all about making sure you understand you are a business. You the CEO of your life. And every day you wake up, you run it just like you would want to run your business. How have you stayed motivated, bro, after all these years? You got everything. Everything. And I follow you on Instagrams.
Starting point is 01:03:15 You constantly, dog, constantly always doing something new. What motivates you after you have accomplished so much? I'm going to keep it real. It ain't about a dollar sign real it ain't it ain't about a dollar sign it ain't about a dollar sign even though I feel like Rose deserved whatever it is he want and ain't nothing wrong with you feeling like that because you gotta go get it though you understand you know yeah you gotta go get it I a huge dreamer. I dream of things that I never, you know, never fathomed. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:03:47 There's so much more to go. Whoever imagining your mid-40s or wherever you at, you underdig? Damn, we really just beginning. The paper really just coming. The experience really just kicking in. Now it's time to apply all that and let's go to that next level. So I'm really, I'm still motivated. I really am.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Obviously, when you get to this level, there was some failures. There was some non-successes. That's just a non-success at the time. Not many, though. How did, like, you getting knocked down, getting back up and says, okay, this didn't work, but the next thing's gonna work Because I know how to accept certain things I said this on my story this morning just because you may not have achieved or accomplished What you set out to accomplish it doesn't necessarily mean you failed
Starting point is 01:04:43 You know I mean sometimes you just got a redirect shit reapply certain things and then the shit could pop off for you so you gonna take L's in the game anybody who think they gonna go shoot straight to the mountaintop and not take no losses you got it fucked up because that's gonna happen and believe it or not we talking realistically in life our biggest challenges have yet to come So you better have your mind right you did man Ross Y'all had this y'all had the summer going crazy. Yeah, we did What what I thought all y'all was like cool
Starting point is 01:05:24 I'm gonna be honest on some rap shit, it was no conspiracies. Rosé name was said. Rosé, I'm going to jump off the porch. That's what I do. When they call Rosé, he coming. I'm going to jump off the porch and I'm going to have some fun. And that's what I did. I had some fun.
Starting point is 01:05:40 You know, I just feel like it's a lot of dope shit being made. You know what I mean? We'll see where it go. As far as I ain't talking no controversy type shit. I'm just talking music. You know what I mean? It's some dope shit being made. You know what I mean? We know the era I came up in.
Starting point is 01:06:06 We know the ones who inspired me always, get them they flowers. And there's some youngsters that's really hustling right now. I want to see them take it to that next level though. Because being successful making music is one thing, but really marketing yourself and making yourself a fucking iconic worldwide global giant. Making yourself a resource because that's what a lot of these youngsters have potential to do. That's what I want to see them do.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Did you always have that ambition? Like, yes, music is my entry, but I see myself as more than a musician. I see myself as an entrepreneur. I see myself as owning businesses. I see myself as owning businesses outside of the music. Because, Ross, everybody knows you as Rosé, but your biggest entities ain't got nothing to do with music. Facts. That's without a doubt. Yeah, shout out to that lemon pepper, man.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You know what I'm saying? But I always had a certain level of ambition. I did. Even when I couldn't dress good, I knew once my paper was right, I'm going to be fly. I'm going to be a fly fat nigga. You know what I'm saying? That was just always in me.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Right. And that's how I got to go. You know what I'm saying? Every day I wake up, man, let's apply this shit. Let's apply this shit. You know what I mean? You want to be wake up, man, let's apply this shit. Let's apply this shit. You know what I mean? You want to be a boss? Make sure you're the best boss there is. Have some understanding. Make sure you communicate.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Every week, let's reiterate what the priorities are. You can't give nobody no room to, nah, nah, nah, let's stay focused. That's how we gotta do it. And that's what it is. So I knew once I had the opportunity, soon as they let me in the motherfucking door, I'm going to go crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:49 How do you determine who you respond to and who you don't? Because obviously, me, I'm in this space now and you get people taking potshots at you. But how does Raw state like, okay, I'll respond to this. I'm going to let that stuff go. How do you determine what you're going to do? Is it something to gain
Starting point is 01:08:03 for you? Somebody wake up and hate on Shea Shea, hate on Ocho. I mean, let's sit back. Let's sit back because not responding is a response when you a boss. You already said Ocho?
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah, because I ain't responding to real. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Motherfucker might wake you up because I ain't responding to real. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Shit. You know what I'm saying? Motherfucker might wake you up early in the morning to text you some bullshit. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Man, get on that goddamn story and don't even try. Hey, that is a response. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, to get a response from me, it has to be something really for me to gain.
Starting point is 01:08:44 If you just a mark who woke up and want to say the biggest boss name because you like my sneakers or something, homie, that's it, man. Calm down. Tell us about Bumble. Yeah, Bumble Rum. Bumble Rum, it's the fastest moving Bumble in the game. Make sure y'all check this out man What made you decide to get into the spirit game?
Starting point is 01:09:08 Really it was just me being in the club It only makes sense If I'm in the club every night Or if I'm in the club three four times a week It only makes sense I'm enjoying myself I'm having something to drink And I find myself in New York City
Starting point is 01:09:23 One night I got a big record. DJ Clue turned me on to Luke Belair. I woke up the next morning and said, what was that in that black bottle? I need some more of that. And that was just the beginning of me really. I met Brett Barish and really just, I just started repping. Everywhere I went, I wanted it with me. And that was just the beginning of the relationship.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Of all the songs you've made, you collab with some of the greatest artists of our generation. Do you have a favorite song that you've created? I can tell you my favorite. My favorite verse? What's your favorite verse? Devil in the Blue Dress. Devil in the Blue Dress. And my favorite song is Amsterdam. Those are timeless. the blue dress. And my favorite song is Amsterdam. But I want to hear from the horse.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Those are timeless. Those are timeless. I'm going to tell you the reason why for me it's so hard to choose a favorite verse or a favorite record is because at certain times
Starting point is 01:10:19 I'm in certain vibes. I may wake up one morning and I'm turnt all the way up and I want to hear John or it might be something that's just speeding running through my mind or it might be one of those mornings I wake up and it's you know
Starting point is 01:10:33 it's a Santorini Grease type of vibe. You know what I mean? So it's just it depends on what the vibe is. You know? It's like getting dressed. Some days you want your shit, you know what I mean? Some days it's another vibe.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I interviewed Khaled, and I talked to Khaled, and he said when he was coming up with this song that you, Wayne, Hov, and I forget who else was on it. I think, who else was on it? Yeah. He said he didn't let who else was on it? Yeah. He said he didn't let anybody else hear anybody else's voice. So you just, you did your thing, Weezy did his thing, Hov did his thing. Facts.
Starting point is 01:11:14 When you jump on a beat, Ross, you hear a beat, okay, obviously they let you hear it. As you're listening, are you formulating like, I'm going to go here, I'm going to go there. Soon as. Soon as. Soon as I hear it, I already know what needs to be done. Now it's just how am I going to do it and execute it, present it.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Because you know who own it. You know it, Ross. I didn't. Oh, that's right. You didn't know. I didn't know. But if you know, let's say somebody asked you to do a feature. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And so you know who's going to be on it. Like, okay, they tell you, okay, Ross, we got you. We got X. We got Z. You know you got to go hard because they going hard because boss on it. Right, right, right. They going their hardest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 So it most definitely, when you hear whoever the collaborator is if they already on the record it most definitely Affects how you approach certain vibes, you know what I mean? But when I like when callus in the record don't tell nobody it's cool. I Did my verse he may have had it back in the next hour. What yeah Yeah, that's how we work. That's how we work. Yeah. Hey, you know, you heard me, you ain't know me at um,
Starting point is 01:12:31 we got a song. I like to hear his song. That's a fact. No. No, that's a fact. We got a song. He really came to the studio, pulled up to the studio, and he really laid down his balls. That's real. Boss, you should have charged him
Starting point is 01:12:48 $10,000 to keep him at your studio. Now, when it drop, and you want it, when it drop, and we go quadruple platinum, don't be trying, oh, I believed in you. No, no, no. Yeah, I'm like that on the mic, man.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Still, look, everybody know you do great work. My favorite song from you have and always will be Every Day I'm Hustlin'. Ooh, man, that means so much. That's my anthem. It means so much still to this day to me. I come out on the stage wherever I'm at. I just left overseas, halfway across the world,
Starting point is 01:13:23 that every day I'm hustling. Come on, that touch and resonate with all the real. It don't matter where you're from, what color you are. You got to go get it because these streets and life, this shit don't care nothing about you. Yeah. You grew up and obviously you have
Starting point is 01:13:39 close to people and I think the hardest thing is that when you have someone that's been around you when you weren't Rose when you wasn't a boss how do you determine who gets the remains in Rose's life if they're not adding anything to Rose's life
Starting point is 01:13:54 with me it ain't always about what you adding to me you know what I mean cause everybody may not necessarily bring nothing to the table but were you genuine when it wasn't nothing on the table? Were you there when there wasn't nothing on the table? You know what I mean? Yeah, so everybody may not bring nothing to the table,
Starting point is 01:14:15 but that's not how we're going to judge your value. We're going to judge the genuine love because there could be a motherfucker that really cares about you more than anybody we're going to judge that on the genuine love. Because it could be a motherfucker that really cares about you more than anybody and ain't got shit to give you. You don't cut them off for nothing. With everything that you've done, with everything that you've accomplished, what could possibly be next that you haven't touched already?
Starting point is 01:14:48 What's next? I got a long list, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just keeping it real. The list is long and it's going to stay long. Let's stay motivated. Let's stay busy. Let's keep moving.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Let's keep hustling. You ain't going to win all the time, but let's keep going. Because like I said, Rosé, I jumped out here. I didn't sign to no huge, you know, I ain't have no big team of producers. No, we did this shit one record at a time, one album at a time, one play at a time. And we done ran laps around motherfuckers. That's what's up? Straight up.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Music. When is Rosé going back in the studio? When can we expect the next album? I'm back in the studio right now, and you're going to have a new album from the boss in December, baby. Yeah. Yeah, we been in the studio, bitch.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Fuck y'all talk. We in the, we out here. Is there anybody that you want to tell us that's in the studio, bitch. Fuck y'all talk. We out here. Is there anybody that you want to tell us that's on the album or you want to keep that low key for the time being? Ocho. I'm going to give it all to you at the end of the year. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:54 I'm most definitely, we cooking up. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my homies out in Houston. Big Tony, Sauce Walker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just did a couple records in the last few days. So I'm just I'm working with all the rooms
Starting point is 01:16:06 Anything else? I ran out of questions Yeah Rose bro For you to be Before For you to come back here You just got back overseas
Starting point is 01:16:19 And when we reached out To you You said I'm not going to be able To make the Miami show But I'll definitely Catch you guys in Houston Bro that means The world to us Because you didn't have to do it you had the
Starting point is 01:16:28 perfect alibi I mean it wasn't even excuse bro I'm gonna be out of the country but I will come back just for you guys and for this man to show up here in Houston today after coming back overseas give him a round of applause Come around, applause. Y'all just go to show you the love that this man has. And you know, I talk to him, I don't bother him much. I know he's on his thing, but hey, sometimes he'll hit me up and say, hey, big bro, I just love what you're doing. Keep up the great work.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Hey, stay focused. He's like, mofo's trying to get you off your place, but stay focused, bro. I appreciate that. That means a lot. Y'all know who it is. The biggest boss you ever saw, Ricky Rose. Don't forget, we dropping in December. Fuck y'all thought.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Nigga, we out here for sad hope. Where we at tonight? Wherever you at. Hold on. I'm finna hit these streets with Ross. Here it is. Rick Ross, The Perfect Day to Boss Up, New York Times bestseller.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Go out and get your copy. Bamboo. Rum. Wingstop. If you haven't seen it, next year the car show, the car show's always in June, right? The car show's always June.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Make sure you check out the Promised Land. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Come ride the horses with me. Rick Ross, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, bro. Love you, bro. Appreciate you.
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