Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bills rout Broncos, Eagles mediocre, McCarthy out in DAL

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from NFL Wild Card Weekend including Unc’s Denver Broncos getting SMACKED 31-7 by Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles mediocre win over Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers, Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys part ways and much more!03:10 - Bills take down the Broncos09:30 - Texans beat the Chargers16:27 - Rams vs. Vikings breakdown29:21 - Eagles defeat the Packers37:30 - Mike McCarthy and Cowboys part ways44:11 - Deshaun Watson undergoes second surgery(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I got my 40. You're going to hood, y'all. You're keeping it in the brown bag. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on. Let me give him a sit down. Hold on, man. Hold on.

Yeah. Hold on. Ah! Hey, don't say Buffalo. Don't say Broncos. Two teams played today. Okay. Up in upstate New York.

Okay, there you go. Near the Canadian border. Yes, sir. The team from the West didn't fare very well as a team that I played with. As a matter of fact, they didn't fare what? They didn't fare very well. I'm going to drink to that. See, that's what you get.

That's what you get. See? See, that's what happens. That's what happens when you make fun of one of God's children. Hold on, let me get some hold on, God damn it. Don't worry about it. The party don't keep going. Let me wipe this up. I don't want to mess up

the flow. But anyway, the party don't keep going. Let me wipe this up. I don't want to mess up the flow. But anyway, the team that won, they scored 31 unanswered points. So how many, how many, how many did they score? They scored 31 unanswered. The fact that you even thought they had a chance,

that's the funny part. You were so confident yesterday. I don't have the same energy. I'm trying to understand. Where's the energy you had yesterday? Matter of fact, I'm going to drink to that one more time.

Hey, Ocho, but the thing was i had the energy because that was before the game i already know the outcome of the game now no but you knew the outcome of the game yesterday i did you knew the outcome i told you what it was gonna be I'm not sure why you understand that. Even though the Broncos had a small percent, probably less a milk chance, 2%. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not even 2%. They had almond milk. Almond, almond, almond chance. If the Bengals win the playoffs, hypothetically speaking, we would have given them a better game.

We definitely would have been a better game. Matter of fact, we might have won that game. Nope. Here you go. Here you go. There you go. You can't jump off the train like that. You can't jump off the train like that.

You are a Bronco. 12-year career. We're flocking. No, we're not flocking. We're talking about the Broncoslock. We flocking. No, no, we not flocking. We talking about the Broncos today. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They played yesterday. They played yesterday.

I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. No, I want to hear you say play or all. I don't want to hear you say no words with the letter B. I don't want to hear you say Buffalo Bills. I want to hear you say Broncos. I don't want to hear you say Beauty and the Beast. I don't hear you say Broncos. I want to hear you say Beauty and the Beast. I don't want nothing.

Ravens. Huh? D. Henry. L. Jack. Marla Humphrey. No. No. You were talking crazy last night too.

Oh, my Broncos this. My Broncos that. I told you. I told you. Hey, as a matter of fact, guess what, Ocho? What? We're going to have a Raven join us tomorrow night. Who? Don't worry about it. Which one?

I reached out to my team that they got still in the playoffs. I mean, it would be nice if we could have a Bengal join us. They ain't got itch to do. So have Joe the Jordan call in. Hey, listen. They ain't got itch to do. So have Joe to join and call in. Hey, listen. They ain't got nothing to do. You know what we got to do?

We're going to help you book your Broncos some flights to meet us in Cancun. Put your head in there. Cancun on three. Cancun on three. What happened to your team today? We got railroaded. We got beat. Oh, okay. Okay.

Hey, do you think the Bengals, if they made it, you think they would have put up we got railroad and we got beat. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. We got, Hey, do you think, do you think, do you think the bangles that they made it? You think they would, they would have put up seven points. I don't like to do hypotheticals.

I would like to say, I would like to think about with Elon Musk, I'll be the world's richest man. If I was, but I'm not. Hey, I would like to think I would make all the decisions that he made. Hey,

one thing about it. Boy, just make sure the night, the rest of the night, I don't want to hear you say anything that starts or ends with a B. I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. I don't want to hear you say play or off. You are not a Raven. I'm not sure why you can't. I am.

Listen, you have nothing to do with the Ravens at all. You played there for two years. Again, two years in a relationship is a honeymoon phase you don't even know each other yet matter of fact you ain't even moving together yet matter of fact two years you ain't even met her parents yet i did okay i mean oh joe i was one i was one of the i was one of the offensive weapons that we had do you not remember hey um i understand i understand your greatness I don't want to take

anything away from you you're a three times Super Bowl champion three times Super Bowl champion I think seven six times time Pro Bowl your Hall of Fame eight

eight time Pro Bowl your Hall of Fame number 267 but you were Denver Bronco I'm a Raven you made the you made the Pro Bowl at the Denver Bronco

not as a Baltimore I made no no you made the Hall of Fame at the Denver Bronco, not as a Baltimore fan. I made the... No, no. You made the Hall of Fame at the Denver Bronco. No, no. It's not like baseball. Both teams are on the plat. Hey, Terrell McGeer, flop.

We flopping. We are supposed to be talking about the Broncos. What happened to your team? Oh, Joe. Yeah. Boy, it's, it's, it's amazing.

That thing shine. That thing shine. It's, it's, it's amazing. And how do you think this makes, how do you think, how do you think this makes the Broncos fans feel?

I look here. First of all, everything that I've done with the Broncos. Okay. With that team in Denver is there. It's Chronicle. It's the same. Everything I did for the two years that was with the Ravens, that's

also there, Ocho. Yeah. Two years, that ain't no time, man. Ocho, think about what I was able to accomplish in two years. How about the Broncos? Better team won, Ocho. I'll be out when you want me to. Okay.

Buffalo. So, hey, I don't owe you no money no more, right? Oh, yeah, better team one on Charlie I want you okay I did I did I did I did so hey I don't owe you no money no more right oh yeah you do you owe me 5200 but the Broncos as a matter of fact

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Score Gommie says that is the first time that a game has ended. Right. The score of 32-12. Yeah. C.J. Stroud, 22-33, 281, one touchdown, one interception. Joe Mixon ran the ball really well, 25 carries, a buck-06, one touchdown. Total rush is Houston, 34 for a buck-68 and a touchdown. Nico Collins was sensational today, seven catches for a buck-22.

Yeah. As they almost triple up the L.A. Chargers. Justin Herbert did not have a great day. He only threw three interceptions all year he threw four today 14 to 32 which is less than 50 percent right 242 yards but one of them came on an 86 yard touchdown so one touchdown four interception he was sat four times a 13 qbr they didn't couldn't run the ball 18 18 rushes, 50 yards. But Ladd McConkie had himself a day. He gave it to everybody. Nine catches, a book 97, one touchdown.

But if you go back and look at it, he was really the only one that caught a pass. Yeah. That did anything. Tight end, dissonant. He caught two for 16. Fisk caught one for 15. Chart caught one for 10. Davis caught one for four.

That was it. Now caught one for 10. Davis caught one for four. That was it. Now, listen, listen. The first half was horrible. The first half was very boring. First half was very, very, very boring and very underwhelming. Like, when I think about the Charters offense, I thought, you know, it would be a high-scoring game. I just thought it would, especially having Justin Herbert.

Justin Herbert being in the playoffs. I'm like, you know what? Quentin Johnson had a hell of a game last week. He had 198, 87, something like that. So I'm thinking, okay, Quentin Johnson coming in with the confidence after having a game like that. Then Ladarius McConkie, I don't even call him Lad no more. Lad is short for Ladarius. You know, as far as I'm concerned, he won us.

Hey, listen, he had a phenomenal game today, and CJ Shroud and the Texans, they scared me a little bit. They scared me a little bit with the way they were playing in the first half. If it wasn't for the interceptions that Brother Herbert threw, this game might have been a little bit different. And I tweeted after he threw the first one.

Alright, now, you playing around, you're going to pay double for that. That was a, I mean, both of them. I mean, CJ, his interception, that was terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, bro. And then Herbert came back. I mean, Herbert's interception was terrible.

They were awful. Which one? Listen, one was on the back. No, no, no. That was Dissily. That was the tight end that dropped it. No, it was flat. You talking about the one in the flat? Nah, the one that went through Lad no. That was Dissily. That was the tight end that dropped it. No, it was Ladd. You talking about the one in the flat? No, the one that went through Ladd McConkie's hands. Oh, the one over the middle?

Listen, now, if your hands touch it, especially if somebody like Ladd, if the ball touched your hands, you got to have that. You got to have that. Because it went right through his hands. It was an ugly game, especially the first half. The Texans got it together in the second half. Now, if I'm not mistaken, didn't C.J. Stroud get sacked game, especially the first half. The Texans got it together in the second half. Didn't C.J. Stroud get

sacked three times in the first half, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah. I mean, they have to play better. They have to play. If they were playing a better team, a better offensive team, it wouldn't have been... I don't know if you can get off to the start and they got off today. You played Kansas City tonight. If you played

Kansas City or you played the Ravens, you're not going to be able to get off to the start and they got off the day. You play Kansas City, now if you play Kansas City or you play the Ravens, you're not going to be able to get off to the start. That team is going to put 14, 17 points on you and really put you behind the eight ball. But Eric Murray's pick six off of Justin Herbert late in the third quarter gave the Texans a 20-6 lead, and they didn't look back. Herbert, a brutal day throwing the football, four interceptions. He had nine completions to Ladd-McConkie and five to one, two, three, four, five, six, seven other receivers. So Ladd was getting open.

He did a great job. He did a great job. But then the interceptions that they ended up getting, Stingley Jr., it shows why he's an all-pro. Because he had a phenomenal bat. He got tremendous ball skills, did a great job. I thought he was going to

take that one to the house. Yeah. Speaking of ball skills, I want to talk about technique. I want to talk about his technique on the double move. Most of the time, on the double move

that the receiver tried to run on him. Yeah. Most of the time, a DB plays so aggressive and bites on the first move where he's not even in position to recover. Man, not only he bit on it a little bit, but then he was able to transition, get back, get his eyes on the ball, and then ping it off.

I don't think people, the casual fan, you know, the casual fan watching from home, they just see interception. I mean, just the development on how we got interception and how we kept ourselves in position to even make the goddamn play. I'm like, golly. Yeah, he got great ball skills. He's getting better and better. They did a great job of pressuring. Will Anderson Jr. had a sack and a half.

Mario Edwards Jr. had a sack and a half. They really got at Herbert herbert um they've neutralized the running game so now we know now we can just go hunt yeah we can turn to unleash the hounds and we can just go hunting right because we have we know you have no threat of running the football i'm not even concerned about the i'm not concerned about you running it all i'm doing is pinning my ears back hey lineback linebacker, y'all have a run. Front fold, let's go hunt. Yeah.

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And they could swing. Neville Gallimore. Is that Neville Gallimore? That's Neville Gallimore to that neville gall that's neville gallimore to play with dallas wow he didn't do that with dallas uh he had one and a half sack b young had one and a half sack hawk had uh a half a sack witherspoon had a sack the rat had a sack d johnson had a sack uh fisk had a sack. Didn't Burse have one too? Oh, Jim,

I guess they took his sack, but they were all over tonight. They were really all over. Sam Donald, he didn't have an opportunity and then he fumbled, gave up a scoop and score and that was really it. But this defense,

look, we know the Rams can pressure the quarterback, but we didn't see this. Matter of fact, what we saw for the Rams tonight, listen, they got their front four, the two rookies on the outsides, phenomenal. On the inside, yeah. Phenomenal players.

Now when it came from a defensive standpoint, I gave the ads to the goddamn Vikings. Simply because of Brian Flores. Because he's a pressure team. And most of the time, 98% of the time, they get to the quarterback making him uncomfortable as far as his decision making and rushing throws. So that's what I thought I was going to see tonight. Oh, but I'm looking at the game like, what in the world is going on?

And just like you always say, no matter how you play in the postseason, I mean, no matter how you play in the postseason, I mean, no matter how you play in the regular season, when you get to the postseason, it's one game. It don't matter if you got 14 wins, if you got eight wins, you got nine wins in just one game. And what team is going to show up tonight? And the Rams

showed up tonight. That guy there, Puka Nakua, boy. Hey, they got Puka, Higby Mason, big-time catcher. Cooper Cupp only had... Cooper Cupp had one target, who was a big-time catcher, 29-yarder. Obviously, Kyron Williams had a receiving touchdown. He ran

really, really hard. Look, the Rams struggled. If you go back and look, I think they started the season one and four. Talk about training everybody. Yeah. Yeah, they were. And then all of a sudden,

they got hot and they did not look back. Stafford started playing better, but it was that defense. The defense started generating pressure, taking the ball away, creating turnovers, putting their offense on short field, and the guys started capitalizing.

But, Ochoa, if they play like this here, I don't know if 22 points is going to get it done for Philly. They're going to have to play better than what they played against Green Bay. I said that yesterday. I had people in the chat or tweet me today who you say not going to be able

to score or beat Philly not scoring. You need to be able to put up numbers. You need to be able to put up because when you come in there next week, you're going to have to get Devontae Smith involved. You're going to have to get A.J. Brown involved because you have a high-powered offense. Yes. I'm getting ready to say Sam Donald.

With Matt Stafford, Hooper Cup, Kyron Williams, the tight ends, everybody is involved in that offense. Yep. The Eagles got to match that energy. They got to match that energy and get contributions from everybody. Ocho, they're going to have to run the football to slow that pass rush down. Because, see, tonight, Minnesota really couldn't generate a rush, so they threw caution to the wind.

And once you see blood in the water, the Sharks, it's going to turn into a frenzy. You see a lot of times, they got them a couple times. They brought the double edge. Justin Jefferson went in motion. And they knew, like, when Jefferson went in motion and they knew like when Jefferson goes in motion he never looks hot they don't run hot to that side so what we gonna do

we gonna bring both of them both of them off that side and neither one of them look back we were always taught Ocho yeah if you come in motion just take a glance back if nobody runs with you

why you not why you not moving? Why y'all didn't bump out? Something up with y'all. I don't like this. Because normally when somebody come in motion, if a guy's already over the outside guy, he's going to bump to the outside. Well, if he don't come, my intent is that he coming. Ain't no way. Ain't no way he going to stay there and leave me by myself.

And the funny thing about it, especially with something like that, I would think and I would hope, well, obviously they don't, you would have hot routes built in. You should have hot routes built in no matter what. And obviously they didn't. You know, DB coming right off the edge. And no, Justin Jefferson, he just wanted down the field. And it's not his fault.

And then one of the interceptions. One of the interceptions. I just want to talk talk receive a talk real quick just real quick on Addison I can't remember number 14's name from the Rams

they got yes out that bunch lick I mean out that bunch look with the condensed split where Addison had the out route I wish

if with understanding if he can hold that inside shoulder just a little bit longer take him two yards just to get the DB to open up. Just if you can get an open up, even if the throw is inside, it gives you a chance to adjust to it and make the catch

where the DB still has a transition and flip just to make a play on the ball. But when you just roll out of it and he's not opened up yet, all you got to do is just come on right down to the ball if it's a bad throw. Yeah, hold on, Ojo. And he's not opened up yet. All he's got to do is just come on right down to the ball if it's a bad throw. Yeah. Hold on, Ojo. I know it's – hold on. Okay. Kobe Durant.

That's his name. 14 for the Rams. Kobe Durant. It was a good play by Kobe. Most sack yards lost most sack yards lost in a playoff game in NFL history Sam Durham has the record now 82 total yards on 9 sack

the record was on December 31st in 1967 oh look was that the ice bowl that might have been the ice bowl? That might have been the ice bowl. The Cowboys sack Bart Starr for a total of 76 yards. That's the coldest.

I think that might be the coldest game. That was the ice bowl. Right. 12-31, 1967. The Cowboys sack. They lost. most sack yardage lost in a playoff game in NFL history Sam Donald now holds that record

with 82 yardage sack yards lost Bart Starr had the record in the ice bowl with the Cowboys sacked him for 76 yards but the difference is the Packers won that was the last NFL championship then huh six yards, but the difference is the Packers won. Oh, that was the last NFL championship then, huh?

I don't think they were called into the Super Bowl then. I think that was the NFL championship. I'm almost certain. Damn. Because next year, the Super Bowl started the next year in 68. And you know, I was hoping, it was next year. It was the Super Bowl started next year in 68. And, you know, I was hoping I was excited. Man, I thought it would have been a much more competitive game. I really thought it was.

Listen, when I was on Inside the NFL and we talked about who I thought was going to win on Ultra Predicto, I only picked the Vikings simply because of the defense and what Brian Flores was able to do throughout the entirety of the season. Matthew Stafford and the offense, they got the ball out so fast, even if you did blitz, it didn't even matter because you weren't going to get there. The ball was coming out so fast. But if you look at the Rams' offense, a lot of that, that's why they're able to beat the blitz a lot because they got a lot of bubble screens.

They got a lot of jailbreak screens. They run a lot of shallow crosses. They got a lot of built that's why they're able to beat the blitz a lot because they got a lot of bubble screens they a lot of got a lot of jailbreak screens they run a lot of shallow crosses they got they got a lot of built-in sight adjust so it's hard to trap yeah now occasionally you can get them but a lot of that is built in cooper cup is right there puka does a great job of getting a head around and you know uh sean mcveigh is really really creative he does a great job of understanding like okay in this down in distance a great job of understanding, like, okay, in this down and distance, a lot of the time, they like to bring a blitz. So if they're bringing a blitz,

that means they're man on the other side. So what we need to do is get the ball into our guy's hand, Cooper Cup, Pooka Nakua, and now we get two blockers, or we get a blocker out there in front. He break a tackle. Now that's a big game. And they've done a great job of that since Sean McVay has been there.

And the thing that was Matt Stafford, the way his ability to change arm angles, Ocho, he can go overhand and he can sidearm it. But I don't know if that was the past when that's Cooper's goal.

I think it would be a fumble. The thing that saved Matt Stafford on that play, where some people were still questioning, is the fact that Puka was right there. He was literally right there. Yes. Yes.

I think you're absolutely right. I think that did save him. Because had it not, maybe they would have called intentional ground, but because the guy scooped and scored, that would have been a touchdown. And I think that changed the completion of the game because now all of a sudden, Ocho, that would have tied the game up. If I'm not mistaken, that would have tied the ball game up.

And so, yeah, turnovers are huge in this situation. And what did he have? Sal McDonald had one pick, one touchdown, nine sacks for 82 yards. Matthew Stafford got two for seven yards, 19 to 27, two touchdowns. And Matthew Stafford had a couple of drops. Tight end dropped one. But Addison dropped two big ones, though. And it's hard to hold on to that ball

when you're that high up in the air, you hit the ground, unless you got a real firm hold on it. That body jars, and that ball is going to pop out. But look, Minnesota had a great season. But tonight,

the Rams were the better team. They outplayed them from top to bottom. And hold on, the Rams made a bonehead play on special teams. They ran into the punter. Gave, who did they give? Bikes another opportunity. But that defense tonight.

That's a good performance that you're going to see. And playing out against the Eagles and Rams. How do you see it? Eagles going to have to run the football to slow that pass rush down. Right. That's the only thing that can stop the pass rush because it got to a point where they couldn't run the football. And so there was no, there was no disguise.

There was no thought of them running the football. And even when they did run and said, you know what, we'll give y'all a little three or four yards. We don't believe y'all can hurt us with the run, but we believe those receivers, Hawkinson, Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, we believe that's where you can hurt

us at. So what we're going to do, we're going to cut the head off the snake, and then we're going to let the body just middle around. I mean, I've got, I'm trying to think, Ocho, you probably got to go back. Tennessee did a number on you guys, but Burrow was able to pull it out.

Remember when y'all guys went on the road to Tennessee? They sacked him nine times. But as far as like a dominating performance, you got to go back to that. Maybe what the Broncos did to Cam in the Super Bowl. This is what that looked like, Ocho. The way – I mean, because Cam really didn't have no time. I mean, Bob was on him. D-Wear was on him. Uh, uh, Wolf.

Uh, uh, uh, I forget the other. Malik. Malik Jackson. Yeah. That was just four-man pressure. And a lot of this was now, a lot of this was just four-man pressure. Yeah, they brought a couple of, uh, uh, uh, cap blitzes. Brought the edge. Brought the, uh, the slot blitz a couple of times

to catch him off guard, and they caught him. But really, that was first, that was young, and that was turning. And they got home. Never Gallimore had a game. Maybe played himself into a big-time contract. But these guys, that defense was coming. Hell, I was like, damn, when did they

slip Aaron Donald back out there? I was like, that defense looked like they had Aaron Donald, and they had That's what I like. That, that, that, that, that had Aaron Donald and they had bond and they had, uh, uh, uh, uh, Leonard Floyd.

When they went to the Superbowl that year on that, that run to the Superbowl late in the season and in the playoffs, that's what that defense looked like tonight. They got out, they got out the Minnesota. They knew the passing game was what Minnesota could rely on to beat them. And they took that away. And this thing was, it was over.

I mean, Ocho, when this thing got, what, it was 20, it was 24 to three at the half. It was over there. It was over there. Ocho, the Eagles defeated the Packers 22 to 10. Saquon Barkley rushed for 119 yards. The Eagles defense picked up Jordan Love three times. I don't get why Saquon Barkley rushed for 119 yards. The Eagles defense picked up Jordan Love three times. I don't get why Saquon's slinging. He's being a team guy.

How are they going to come back and score 20 points in a minute? There haven't been very many 200-yard rush days in NFL postseason history. Somebody in his ear. Somebody on the side. Y'all better shut the F up. You ain't got to tell me because i said the same thing i say why are you sliding in a moment like that look here in certain circumstances i get it uh one score let's just say you up by one point you scored at a chance they get a two point conversion and tied you i get that not in this situation. That's why I said somebody was in his ear,

somebody on the sideline probably told him before, if we get the opportunity, if we get a chance, if we break one open, let's go down. Brady said he wouldn't have been so generous.

Hell no. Ocho, I'm up by 12 points with a minute to go and I'm about to hit, and I got, let's just say Ocho, I got 125 yards.

Right. That right there going gonna give me 75 yards that's gonna give me a touchdown 200 yards boy I'm going to the house I ain't gonna hold y'all I'm going to the house I don't I don't know what he was doing I in a sense it it makes me think not only his decision well yes his decision because he could have said he wanted to play or not the decision not to go after that record last week, which would have cemented his legacy in the history books. And then you come this week, you know, you have a clear touchdown, a clear touchdown. You're already up by two scores.

Why not just go score? I mean, somebody in his ear got him. Listen, they got my dog brainwashed over there. They got him overthinking. He's thinking too much. They got my dog brainwashed. there they got him overthinking he's thinking too much they got my dog brainwashed they got him overthinking

I'm not analyzing every little thing just play football just have fun enjoy the game because you're not going to get these opportunities very often

and it goes really fast it goes really fast so I mean it is what it is I hope everything continues to work out for Saquon and that Eagles team

they look good today but they're not to me they're not scoring enough points, they're not scoring enough points, man. They're not scoring enough points. They're not efficient throwing the ball as well. They're not using A.J. Brown. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was

just me, Ocho. That's going to catch up. That's going to catch up to them. Okay. For the Green Bay Packers having the injuries that they had or Jordan Love not being able to get that motor running, they're lucky. Maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm just too critical.

But Jalen Hurst did not look good at least the first three and a half quarters, Ocho. Maybe it's just me, though. Did you notice anything? He looked timid. They were running. I'm like, bro, Jalen, what are you doing? Run. Go do something.

Listen, I didn't really notice anything. I think when I think about Jalen Hurts, I think he does everything within the realm of what he does good. He doesn't try to do anything extra. So I just saw Jalen do what he normally does. If it's there, he throws. If it's not there, he's checking it down. But I was very surprised at how

poorly he was playing early on in this ball game. He'll go seven, eight games, and he won't turn it over. But then he'll go three or four games where he'll have two, three every game. And this is the game that you can't do that. No, not the playoffs. Three turnovers, you're getting beat. They were lucky, and I don't mean to be rude.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you're lucky you're not playing off in the juggernaut today. You're not playing off in the juggernaut, you know, because, listen, scoring 22 points is not going to beat the you know, your Detroit's. It ain't going to beat Minnesota either. It ain't going to beat Minnesota either. I mean, as good as your defense is. Now, I'm not going to

take anything away from that because the defense played well today as well, but you got to put up points. Now, who do the Eagles have to face now? They're going to face the winner of Minnesota or the Rams. Now, we talk about two teams that can put up 30're going to face the winner of Minnesota or the Rams. We're talking about two teams that can put up 30 in a blink of an eye. But see, the thing is, the Eagles are counting on us. Yeah, but we're not going to be

in the Dome. So we're hoping that we get cold weather, we get wind conditions, blah, blah, blah. Even if you're playing in Philly, Philly ain't that cold. But the weather. It might be snow. It might be snow. It might be wind.

Normally, dome teams don't like to come out of those domes. They build their team to play on that fast-ass turf. The Lions play well in the cold now. The Vikings play well in the cold now. Even though they're dome teams, if you look at the time that they had to be on the outside, they've been okay. I'm just saying this.

I don't know moving forward if this type of offensive performance will win Philly a game. It was enough today. But I don't know moving forward if it'll be enough. No. I mean, they won't be. The coaches know that. The staff know that. Hell, even the players know that.

Based on who your opponent is going to be, it is going to be the Lions or it's going to be the Vikings. Whichever one it is, you understand that you can't score 22 points and beat the Vikings or the Lions. A.J. Brown was caught on camera reading a book on the sideline. It's called Inner Excellence. I think the thing is, it's a situation where, you know, I've got the channel and not let my emotions consume me because I know I'm good enough to get 10, 11 targets. But here I am with one and I'm halfway through this game. And so let me calm down. Let me focus on the bigger picture.

Yeah. Which is to win this game. I can't say all I care about is winning and they complain about targets and catches when we win. And I didn't get said targets or catches. Right. So I think it's trying to calm him down. It gets him. And like you said, it gets him in a space that he's able to function and not let it emotion, not let his emotions run wild and become frustrated, become a distraction. And because I think the last thing that AJ Brown wants to do is to become a distraction on a team that has, that has the goods and they're good enough to get towards get to and potentially win the Superbowl. So, Hey, like you said, whatever workflows your boat, I had to, I couldn't, I don't think I was focused on with that game. I had tunnel vision.

I ain't want to talk about no newspaper. I ain't want to talk about no book. Hell, I remember the last time I read a book and I didn't want to talk about no newspaper. I didn't want to talk about no book. Hell, I remember the last time I read a book, and I wasn't about to read one on the sideline. You see what you do now, Osho? They don't take the physicality of the game so much. They got guys reading books on the sideline. They got guys reading books on the sideline. Hey, when you had Ray Lewis and Erlach and Dawkins

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Cowboys coaching drama. This is what Des tweeted. Dan Quinn turned a once-struggling franchise into a playoff contender and won his first playoff game. Until Dallas focuses on winning instead of politics, Cowboys fans should not struggling franchise into a playoff contender and won his first playoff game until Dallas focused on winning instead of politics. Cowboys fans should not expect success soon. I'm telling you this straightforwardly, just as I always do. Ocho, who's going to be the Cowboys next?

I don't know who the big team is going to be. I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I just don't like the way Jerry operates. I don't like the way he operates. There was an opportunity for Mike McCarthy to be able to interview for the Chicago bear job. You know, Jerry blocked that. He said, no, I'm thinking, well, if you're telling me, no, Mike McCarthy should be upset. If you're telling me, no, I can't go in an interview for the job. I'm thinking you're going to retain me and discuss a long-term contract at some point. What was the point of even doing that? Just to show that you're in control? Just to show your power? That's what it was.

You knew he was. Ocho, he knew he wasn't bringing Martin McCarthy back. But no, I'm not going to let you interview with the Bears on your timeline. It's going to be on my timeline. What's the point? What's the point? We know you're in control. We know you're the owner. We know that. The season eight isn't? We know you're in control. We know you're the owner. We know that.

The season eight isn't even in, and you're still making headlines based on your decision-making. That's making absolutely no sense. Let the man go. You know you didn't want him to begin with because if you wanted him, you would have paid him before the season even started

or paid him in season instead of allowing him to finish out his contract. Like, what are we doing? But here's the thing. Remember when they lost a couple of times in the first round, they thought they kept Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn really stayed because he thought he was going to get the job. Then off the side, Jerry kept bulljiving.

He said, man, let me go down here and get me a job. You bulljiving. And guess what? Bobby Wagner was available. He had no blind back. I like Bobby Wagner. B-Wags, look at that. Know that defense.

Know Dan Quinn's defense. Now, Kendrick's played well, but B-Wags is a different animal. But see, Jerry is going to be Jerry. He going to hire a coach and then he going to tell you who to hire. Well, this is going to be your defense coordinator. This is going to be your offensive He's going to hire a coach and then he's going to tell you who to hire. Well, this is going to be your defensive coordinator. This is going to be

your offensive coordinator. I have a question. Now, I've seen reports. I tweeted out earlier today. You know, I was just thinking, I just threw it out there. Like, you know, I ain't talking to Prime,

you know. I'm just thinking, well, let me see, Mike McCarthy's gone and I'm thinking about Prime, you know, obviously, you know, I'm not trying to disturb no trouble.

And then as soon as I tweeted it three hours later, they go to reports, Jerry Jones reached out to Deion Sanders about the opportunity. Deion saying he was, he was intrigued, you know, but he loves what he has in Boulder as far as his team and his roster. And I just, I just, I just listen. When an opportunity like that comes along, when an opportunity like that comes along, do you let it pass that comes along do you let it pass you by? Do you let it pass you by?

I know Deion said I would love to coach my sons I doubt, probably, I'm not sure where Dallas is picking, but Shazor is not going to be there. He's not going to be there unless they do something extravagant and climb the ladder and go get a quarterback I doubt it, you know, if they have that

I'm just saying I'm just speaking hypotheticals ladder and go get a quarterback. I doubt it. They have that. They're not getting a quarterback. I'm just speaking hypotheticals. But I'm just saying for the opportunity to actually coach at the highest level where you dominated, where you made your Hall of Fame career, do you really pass them up like that? What do you

think? Oh, you do? But look, no, Ocho. Look, that what do you what do you think oh you do but look no oh joe look we know jerry jerry is right authoritarian uh it's jerry way or no way he feel i heard troy tonight said he don't believe the cowboy job is coveted it's our, but it's not coveted. He says because coaches can't become who they are and what they can become because of Jerry. He says Dan Campbell is not going to be Dan Campbell in Dallas like he is in Detroit.

Andy Reid would not be Andy Reid in Dallas like he is in Kansas City. That should tell, think about it, Jerry. You continue to do things your way because you want the credit. Sometimes you don't realize how great things can be if you don't care who gets the credit. But Jerry cares, and there

lies his problem. He's always cared. That's why he fired Jimmy. He won't ever admit it. It drove him crazy that everybody mentioned Jimmy. He won't ever admit it. It drove him crazy that everybody mentioned Jimmy and he got no shine. So he fired a man back. Let us think, Chad, let us

think here for a second because I don't think you guys realize what I'm about to say here. He fired Jimmy after back-to-back Super Bowls and his oldest superstar was Michael Irving at 28 years of age. His oldest superstar was 28 years of age, and he fired it.

Now, first ballot Hall of Famer in Troy Aikman, first ballot Hall of Fame, all-time leading rusher in Emmitt Smith. Michael Wett got in on the second ballot. And they had that team together. They won another one. They missed that year. They went and got

prime. And they won another one. But had they had Jimmy, that's when Jerry started. They won in spite of Jerry. That's how good that 95 team was. They won in spite of Jerry. That's how good that 95 team was. They won in spite of Jerry. But had they kept Jimmy,

what you see the Patriots did, that's what Jimmy would have done. Think about what they had. Emmitt Smith, Emmitt came in with me. So Emmitt left early. So 93, Emmitt should have been 24. Troy was 26. Mike was 20.

Troy was 27. Mike was 28. Listen, remember what C.E. said in Color Purple? Huh? Somebody. Somebody needs to do that to Jerry until you right by me everything you I forgot what

yeah everything that's what's happening nothing has gone good for the Cowboys since that fire now you made it to the playoffs you made it but you're always going home in the first round Ocho Ocho, Ocho. Deshaun Watson underwent a second surgery for a right Achilles rupture. According to a team statement earlier this week,

Watson reported to the cross-country mortgage campus for an exit physical as a part of the Brown season ending process. He complained of discomfort after rolling the ankle in Miami. MR results demonstrated a re-rupture of the Achilles. They're normally in a boot for at least three months. What makes this injury so difficult to repair, to recover from, is that when they put you in a boot, the muscles start to atrophy. You know what happened? Now you got weakness. So now you have to build that calf muscle. Now you have to build all those muscles up because you can't do anything. It's not like an ACL, Ocho. They get your butt in there. The day after surgery, they got you bending that leg.

They got you raising it, squeezing that quad muscle, trying to get it fired. They're putting stem on it to get that muscle fired to keep that muscle from atrophy. Well, when you're in a boot, there ain't really anything that you can do. 62 days after surgery, Deshaun didn't have the boot on. Ocho, remember we had a conversation? I'm like, why is he reworking his contract

when he got guaranteed money? Now we know why. Remember, I said, Ocho, he got guaranteed. Why would I rework my contract? Y'all can't do nothing. He's going to miss all of 25. He missed a large part of 23. He missed damn near all of 24.

He's going to miss all of 25. I don't wish injury on nobody. You already know how I feel about injuries in general. It's unfortunate. I've been one who stood high in hoping and and hoping that we get to the sean watson of old uh this is a setback you know for him uh it's also a setback for the browns uh i'm curious to see what the browns are going to do at that position um knowing where they

pick in the draft if if they're able to find someone to play the quarterback position? Will you bring a veteran in? Would it be maybe Kirk Hudson? Can Joe Flacco maybe come back? I'm not sure what they're going to do, but, man, this is not good for them. It's not good for Deshaun. And that's upsetting. Look, when this thing happened on show,

I thought what was going on with Deshaun was more mental than physical. Right. It was what transpired and then everybody kind of knew or thought they knew. And what was true was that's not our job. Right.

We're not here to try to retry anything or say somebody innocent or guilty. But what we can say is that when people realize and say damn all of this and let's just say for the sake of argument all of it's true all of it's real

it's the fact that everybody knows it's the same thing that happened with Tiger think about it Ocho now this different situation allegedly nothing tiger didn't people said deshaun may did things against their will but what i'm saying is that when tiger people like tiger you still playing golf right right right right it was the fact that they saw him in a different light like yes sir now all of a sudden he wasn't this wholesome this family married father

of two why you a freak and it messed with him psychologically yeah i mean he won one more major after that after that you know what that comes from as well obviously right not only are you embarrassed publicly about everyone knowing what how you conducted yourself away from the game of golf yeah but if anything what you could have done is you're going to stay true to yourself stay true to yourself everybody knows now so why don't don't change because not only did it change you as a golfer you were winning majors and playing extremely well and at the at the height of your game when you were doing whatever it was you were doing outside outside of the golf course if you look at guys that have built big big brands what have

they all been married that's what we sell it he's the all-american guy wife 2.5 kids house white picket fence go look at the guys that have the biggest brains oh jack nicholas arnold palmer right michael jordan pete manning tom brady patrick mahone you look at god kobe lebron james yeah shack was met go look at the guys that have built these huge brands and what do they all have? The only exception, what's the only exception? Ocho. Derek Jeter. I'm talking about people that's building

half a billion, billion dollars. You're talking about Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I got that now. Don't do that. So maybe that's what he was looking at, Ocho. Yeah. The problem is he got married and didn't have his pee-pee under control and then everybody knew it. Ocho, you don't have to be.

I don't want everybody to know I'm a freak. Right, right. Freak man, freak man. Yeah, that's me. I want y'all to know that. Yeah. People knew. Now they look good.

Because what, Ocho? You walk to the course, everybody looking at you. Yeah. I bet Tiger shook the covers last night. Yeah. And listen, everybody on that goddamn course

just like him. Everybody don't know about it. See? Mm-hmm. You see a pretty girl at the golf course. I want to shoot for Tiger.

I bet that's Tiger, people. You think it. What you think it, Ocho? You think that is? I don't know. See?

I just, I just, I just. Ojo, we just, we just got to keep it worth by, would you? Yeah. But hopefully Deshaun has a speedy recovery. He's never going to be the same quarterback again, Ojo. Nah. Never. Never.

Now, it's not really about playing. Bro, you in your 30s you want to have a normal life you don't want to be walking around like Shannon Sharp at 56 and you 35 33 34 right you want to have somewhat of a normal life you want to be able to walk without a limp hell you walk with a limp at

32 what the hell you think you'll be at 42 52 62 yeah you're down to need a wheelchair so now it's about getting a level of health back right where you can do stuff I don't too. Yeah, you're down to need a wheelchair. So now it's about getting a level of health back where you can do stuff. I don't know if he wants kids or he's going to have kids,

but you want to do something with the kids. At this point in time, I'm not even thinking about playing football. I'm thinking about tackling this rehab, taking it as serious as I possibly can, and try to heal up and get back because 2025 is over. You're not coming back. Speedy recovery.

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