Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Blame Jerry Jones, Joe Burrow’s talent being wasted, Josh Allen MVP frontrunner

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Cooper Rush & the Dallas Cowboys getting their butts kicked by C.J. Stroud, Joe Mixon and the Houston Texans on Monday Night football, 34-10. Later, Unc and Ocho debate if Joe Burrow is being wasted by the Cincinnati Bengals, Buffalo Bills QB Josh Allen officially passes Lamar Jackson and Jared Goff as frontrunner for NFL MVP but are adamant that Lamar will still win and much more!03:12 - Show start03:30 - Intro04:46 - Texans beat Cowboys 34-1022:36 - Belichick top of list for Jerry Jones’ options31:00 - Cowboys v Bengals looks appealing39:25 - Money Moves49:30 - Daniel Jones demoted58:34 - Rough Draft Best Wide Receivers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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while quantities are limited. Make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Ocho, the Texans did a job on him. The Texans beat the Cowboys by the score of 34-10. I predicted the final score would be 27-13.

They got several more points. Dallas got three fewer points. But anytime you allow Cooper Rush to throw the ball 55 times, you deserve, you earn what you get. Yes, sir. An ass whipping. Yeah. That's what the Cowboys got.

That's what they earned. Ain't no way in hell Cooper Rush supposed to throw the ball 55 times. So the fact that they don't have a running game, how did you expect them to be able to move the ball up and down the field? Clearly, they ain't got a passing game either. They scored 55 times. They got 10 points. The offensive line is terrible, Ochoa.

Oh, yeah. I'll watch Zach Martin. If Zach Martin is going to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot, I'll watch him get beat with a swim move three consecutive plays. One fourth sack, he got rid of the ball, and the next play, boom. Three consecutive plays. Barnett was wearing the guy with the swim. Yeah, he's not the same.

Who's the other guy? Danell Hunter. Yes, sir. Danell Hunter was doing, like, he's on the dance floor. He hit him with the swim one move. He hit him with the rip. Then he turned his back and spin. He's doing what he's like, man, I'm just clowning. And Michael looking on the sideline, he's him with the rip then he turned his back and spin he's doing what he's like man i'm just i'm just clowning and michael looking on the sideline he's looking

at the jumbotron thinking to himself and i know exactly what he's thinking damn i wish i could rush against these sorry mofos i have me about eight sacks in the game yeah he would yeah but they're bad the offensive line is bad the defensive line isn't any good right jerry didn't address the issue as far as being able to stop the run. They want to play for a lead. But Ocho, what happens when you don't get a lead? It's the same thing. It's the same thing.

If you can't get the lead and a team can just run to bludgeon you, now what do you got? You got a bunch of undersized guys that can't stand up against a rush, mixing 20 rushes, 109 yards, three touchdowns. They ran 25 times for a buck 41. Mixon had all three tubs. CJ, 23 of 34, 257. No touchdowns, one interceptions.

Offensive line did a great job. Only gave up one sack while the Texas defense got after Cooper Rush. Sacked him five times. They should have picked him off another two or three times. I mean, the ball hit the guy right in the chest, Ocho. Stingley had one, dropped it. I think it's Harrison. He had one, dropped it.

But the Cowboys, look, at this point in time, Ocho, I would just play Trey Lance. Because what are you hoping for? Just go try to get the worst pick you could possibly pick. It's time to rebuild. Your offensive line is trash. From left to right. Except, I mean, Smith, you

can work with Smith. I think it's Ty Smith. You can work with him. But the rest of them? Listen, it's always been time to rebuild for them. Obviously, for Dak's sake, and before Dak is able to come back, there's only so much the Cowboys can do. There's only so much Jerry Jones can do as far as rebuilding is concerned.

You can't build every goddamn aspect of your team. You can only do so much on the offensive line. You can only do so much on the defensive line. To be able to get pieces in there that can be adequate, that can hold up where you can compete at the level you need to compete at, you know, to compete for a championship or you so say. Jerry Jones is a little bit stubborn. I think he doesn't know. Maybe you can see it. If you can see it and the rest of the world can see it, I'm not sure he can because the things that he's going to need to do to make the move necessary to compete, he's probably not going to want to spin.

So I think that's going to be a problem. It's going to be kind of a pulling tug for him in thinking he knows what he needs to do to be able to compete and win when he doesn't even know. Wait, hold on. How do you say it the right way? Where he says, I'm the GM.

I'm the one that knows what needs to be done. Yeah, he says nobody can do a better job. He said no one can do a better job than him. The team that he has assembled, he feels it's adequate enough to be able to compete. So he's not going to listen. You can see it clear as day. I can see it clear as day. The Cowboy fans, they probably can see it clear as day.

They're finally starting to see it if they haven't seen it. I don't think he's not going to make any moves. And then I hear all the speculation, but I don't want to jump into that part yet because I'm sure we're going to talk about that. But go ahead. They have a long way to go. They have a long way to go. Ocho, but you're saying a complete rebuild.

Normally, when people redo their house, they do the kitchen. Yeah. And they do it taking a step. Yeah. They do the kitchen. Then they'll do the bathroom. They'll do the den. They might do the lawn, might do the roof.

Everybody don't do a complete restoration at once. But because Jerry has allowed everything to get so dilapidated, he has no choice. You cannot do a bathroom rebuild when your roof leaking. You can't do a roof restoration when your house is infested with rats. That's what Jerry has allowed to happen. He has it run down the

dilapidated building, both literally and figuratively, because you saw families dropping from the ceilings. From the ceiling. So that's what has happened. Because you can't tell him nothing, it's hard to tell a man something that's worth that amount of money and a lot of times you have yes men around you because they tell you what you want to hear not what you need to know nobody is telling jerry jerry actually honestly dad honestly jerry you're doing a hair you're

doing a terrible job ain't nobody gonna say that ain't nobody exactly you can't that's why he said you get your water cut off you get your water cut off you can't you can't say right that what do you say nobody has told nobody has told him remember we was talking about the tours that come through when the players are there he said nobody ever told me that it was a problem yeah like somebody gonna tell somebody going to tell you, Jerry, what the hell are you doing? It's a problem. Of course not. Mm-hmm.

He acting like, especially during football season, he acting like it's a goddamn museum. It is. That's how he treats it. But I don't know. They haven't won a game at home. And the game that they're losing, they lost the last six home games. 34 to 10. Over 24. 34-6, 47-9.

The closest they came to winning was the Ravens, and the Ravens had them down really bad, but they fought back. They lost 28-25. They lost 44-19, 48-32. And they've trailed by at least 20 points in all six games, an NFL record. And Jerry claimed, but he all in. I don't

think he understands what all in mean. I think he meant all in as far as the two players are concerned that were supposed to get paid. And they weren't even all in because they didn't get paid on time. They're being goddamn time for practice. They should have been in the minicamp. They should have been. I don't know what he said, Ocho. I don't know what C.D. would have got out of practice. They should have been in the minicamp. They should have been. Oh, I don't know what.

What did he say, Ocho? Well, I don't know what CD would have got out of practice. He'd have got a chemistry. I mean, for them, the guys to lead the league in quarterback reception, if he had reception, Ocho, this year, you would have never knew that CD had played with that. Yeah. Yeah.

And that tells not only the casual fan, but it tells, it tells Jerry how important all the things that you do, the necessary steps that are taken in the off season, how important that is before the season even hits. You don't know what you don't know. And what you do, you surround yourself with people that do your people are supposed to be like mirrors your rear view yeah because sometimes objects are closer than they appear hey you

sound like my grandma but jerry can't see that jerry can't see the forest for the trees and because he wants to be the smartest guy in the room and he's not he's not he's not jerry doesn't know fronts jerry doesn't know coverages. Jerry doesn't know formations. He doesn't know protections. He doesn't. And it's okay. But it's the pretending like he does.

That's what irks me. If you don't know, like Clark Hunt doesn't know. Virginia McCaskill, she doesn't know. Steve Bichotte, he doesn't know. Owners don't know that. Jerry doesn't know it either, but he pretends.

And he tried to fool the fans. Well, nobody can do that. Jerry, you don't know, bro, and it's okay. I don't know everything that I need to know, but I like to think I'm surrounding myself with enough good people that do know, that can help Shannon in areas where he's weak. Right. Guide you in the right direction.

In the Bible, the old man used to pray in the church, Ocho, they say, God, strengthen me where he's weak. Right. Guide you in the right direction. In the Bible, the old man used to pray in the church, they say, God, strengthen me where I'm weak. Build me up where I'm torn down. You see what? You see what I'm saying?

I'm weak in an area. I need you to strengthen me there. And if I'm up here, bring me down. Hold on. Stop right there. Hold on. Hold on, man.

Hey, what else is going on? Stop right there. Hold on. Hold on, man. Hey, what else is going on right now, boy? I mean, think about it. Them guys have lost 34-10, 34-6, 47-9. 28-25 was the closest they came to having a victory at home. They lost 44-19, and they lost 48-32. Look at the numbers that they're giving up. Hold on. God strengthened me.

That's a good one there. Strengthened me where I'm weak. See, that's what Jerry. Build me up where I'm torn down. God. But I'm going to let Jerry. But you know what? I think the fans are starting to see Jerry full of caca.

Jerry doesn't know nearly as much as he says he does. And it's not, it's not the fact that if you know what people can understand, if you don't know something, it's the pretending that you do know. And they allow people to see, Jerry ain't know what the hell he was talking about. Yeah, he don't. Ocho, did you hear those scores? 34-10, 34-6, 47-9, 28-25.

I mean, look at all these 40s. 48, 44, 47. And you remember the Lions. The Lions running back, back shoulder phase to a tackle yeah running a flea flicker to a tackle yeah they ran a flea flicker to a tackle

the Lions was just making up stuff they doing back yards for the ball well hell you know a funny thing we'll give them a pass on the Lions cause the Lions doing everybody like that they just hung 52 on the god because the line is doing everybody like that. They just hung 52. They just hung 52 on the goddamn Jags. Ocho, they could have hung

if they weren't to call all them down. They'd have hung 50 on the Cowboys. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's the situation, Ocho. You know when you're playing little league football and you're blowing somebody out. And they're like, hey, coach, can I get there? And the heck of the offense is livin'. They put in the big fat ass in there running back.

God, you blowing the doors off somebody. They got a lineman in there. He got number 73 on there, and you handed him the ball. And he don't run a touchdown. That's what the Lions were doing to the Cowboys. And that defense. Y'all ain't got no. Do you got any pride?

Do you got any pride? Do you got any pride? If anything, if you don't play for the star on the helmet, at least play for the last name on the back. The name on the back? The last name on the back of the jersey. I cannot have my name look down... You're walking away, that's what I see.

Yeah. On camera? On camera? That name and that number? I need mine to always stick out. I don't care how the situation is around us how bad it is but when they turn on that film there's one thing that

gonna pop out I'm just I mean if I was a Cowboy I'm just Ocho and it might have got out of hand they call that Nico Collins play back the first play of the game how you give up 80 plus yards on the first play of the game Ocho first play the first play hey can you help me understand yards on the first play of the game, Mocho? First play. The first play?

Hey, can you help me understand something? How is the referee saying it's a lineman too far down? Ineligible man downfield. What is the lineman doing? Do they not know they have to stay behind the line of scrimmage and not go forward?

I think he can be what? One to two yards down the field. He wasn't that far down the damn field. But if you saw late in the game, how many passing affairs did they call in Dallas' favor trying to make it a ball game? Dallas too good to even benefit from penalties. I don't know why y'all calling. Y'all just wasting time.

Y'all just drawing out the game. Yeah, you're right. If I called a Cowboys game, I'd be eating my penalty. I done called and got me some General Joe's chicken and some Moo Moo Guy bread y'all ain't been to back my Chinese my Chinese meal get cold

I already know y'all know some bull jive as a matter of fact I would tell my wife to sew my flag in my pants I can't pull it out it's bad over there. It is terrible. It's bad. How do you think outside of

having to revamp the offensive line, the defensive line, and getting some bigger hogs, for the lack of better terms, up front? You got a draft. You got that in the draft? You're not finding nobody in the draft huh

but but you don't have a choice Ocho just like they found Zach Martin just like they find Tyron Smith uh once they have uh what was the guy Travis what was the guy the center uh Fred Travis Frederick okay once Travis Travis Frederick was the anchor they drafted I mean they went consecutive years where they drafted all pros. Right. And what happened was Frederick had an injury that he left early than what he should have. Right. And they let Tyron Smith's injury pile up.

They didn't have an adequate replacement, Zach Martin. So guess what happened? Everybody gets old and starts to deteriorate at the same time. Right. Now what you got, Ocho? You ain't got nothing. You ain't got nothing. Zach Martin is not the same and everybody else is bare minimum at best. I hate saying that.

I hate saying it. These are NFL players. These are the best of the best. But to compete at the level that they need to, again, to compete at the level that they need to, week in and week out, it's bare minimum. Not even close, Ocho. And that's what happens.

If you wait until your card's on its last legs, it's too late, Ocho. That's a good one. That's why you're supposed to get it serviced all the time. That's why you're supposed to check. Yes, sir. But they were such great players and I get it. But even if you have to draft their replacement and play them in other positions until they're ready to move on.

Now you got your left tackle and waiting. Now you got your right guard and waiting. Now you're going to have to develop these guys on the fly. And the likelihood of you getting, I mean, look, think about how long it was. They had Larry Allen. Think about how long it took him to get from Larry Allen leaving until they got Zach Martin. Yeah. But that's a long time,

boy. Or when they had hotel Adam flows in, I flows there. Wasn't what Tyron Smith is. Right. Tyron Smith is, is, is,

is a future hall of famer, but he let the roster get, he let the offensive roster go down too much and defensively. Because you know why? Because he was too busy blaming coaching. He let the fans talk to him and say it's the coach's fault. It was Mike Nolan's fault. It was Monty Kiffin's fault.

It was Chris Richard's fault. It was always someone else's fault than what the player, because see, I can't blame the player because I picked those. See, if I say it's the players, that's going to reflect negatively on me. Right. See, I can change the coach and like,

oh yeah, hey, it was time for him to move on. But if I say that is the direct tie to me. Right. And what's the other, wasn't Rod Marinelli the coach in Dallas? Yeah, they blamed everybody, Ocho. They blamed everybody.

They done ran out of people to blame now. And guess what? Jared done fired everybody. They done blamed everybody. Now, he's the last man standing. And then nothing has changed.

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Hmm. I don't see it. I don't see it. If you understand, for those that are in the chat, if you understand how Bill is, if you understand how he runs his ship, how he runs his ship, one of the main things that he talks about is not

talking. No bulletin board material. Keep him quiet. And to have an owner like Jerry Jones at the front and center of everything, I think maybe he would like it in a sense, the fact that it takes away from him having to talk and be in front of the camera and in front of the media.

He takes that spotlight. I think it's something that Bill might not like, but I think it gives too much bulletin board material to the other team and unnecessary pressure on the players as well. But what happens when Coach Belichick comes in and say this roster

is not good enough to compete? Everybody on that roster is there at the behest of Jerry. How is that going to make Jerry look when he said nobody can do a better job selecting these players right than me and coach belichick comes in there and says we're not good enough yeah i mean that's then listen that's a conversation that would be had way beforehand i'm not sure if if if even you know

bill was able to even think about taking the taking the job in dallas i mean he would understand obviously i don't have a goddamn roster to be able to compete. And he would probably tell Jerry, you know, knowing Bill, who is a very, very honest, if you're able to talk to him one-on-one, man, Jerry, you lying not only to yourself, you lying to the fans. Chad, you got some fuzz on your neck, bro. I do? Yeah. You got it.

I got it, yeah. No, you didn't. Yeah. Go ahead. It's gone. Yeah. No, you didn't. Yeah. Go ahead. It's gone. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

I appreciate that. Appreciate what you're going to do. Cause you could just have me up here all fuzzy the whole show. I appreciate that. Yeah. Hey, but you know, no, no, I'm Bill. No, I'm Bill. Oh man.

He'll tell Jerry right away. Listen, I can't do nothing with this. I can't do nothing with this. Don't, don't give me scraps. And I'm not, I don't do nothing with this. I can't do nothing with this. Don't give me scraps and I don't mean to be disrespectful to the player. Don't give me scraps and tell me to make a goddamn gourmet meal. I'm not going to be able to do it.

It's not going to work. It's just hard and I know people have said that Coach Belichick says he doesn't need control, but it's hard when you've had control for two plus decades to all of a sudden say, you know what, I answered to a GM or I got a pro personnel

director and I got to answer to the owner when you've never had, you had a direct line of communication straight to the owner. I'm not saying it can't happen, but it's just hard for me to believe to see a scenario that he can just give up that kind of autonomy when he's had it for such a long time.

He would have to. He would have to. Understanding the way Bill runs his ship. And I don't need you in my way. I don't need you in my way in doing what it takes to build a contender. I know what it takes. You've done it before. You have some bull rings.

I have some bull rings. I have some more rings. I think if I'm not mistaken, Bill has two more than the Cowboys. Right? He has six. The Cowboys have five. But he has two as a defensive coordinator. So he has eight total. He went two with the

Giants. He was the D coordinator with the Giants in 86 and then 90. At that point, Jerry should... You know what? I give you the reins. If I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, if it's ever to happen, Jerry has to take a seat. He's got to take a back seat. Let Bill do what he's

already done. He's already done. He knows what it takes. In this time, in this era, he knows what the roster needs to look like. He knows what pieces need to do. When it comes draft time, nobody does it better than bill when it comes to breaking down film and understanding what type of players i need to build a goddamn team where jerry relinquish that power well jerry like names bill like guys that fit a particular scheme he like smart players he like players that fit a safety to be a certain size. A linebacker to be

a certain size. Defensive lineman to be a certain size. It's hard. Everybody can't play D-line in this scheme because his D-line is to eat up players. Yes, sir. And let the linebackers free flow and go make plays. That's how he operates. He's a two-gap guy. He doesn't want you to run the football. Everybody

has a responsibility. Do your responsibility. And I think this is work. I'm going to put you in the right situation for you to run the football. Everybody has a responsibility. Do your responsibility. And I think this is work. I'm going to put you in the right situation for you to do your job. Right. But it's going to be very interesting to see what the Cowboys do for the rest of the season. Ocho, a piece of metal falls from the stadium shortly after opening the roof and nearly lands on people. While the roof was being opened for the first time since 2022, it was then closed after the incident. See, you talk about Spirit Airlines and AT&T Stadium falling apart.

But you got, hold on. That stadium opened up in what, 2009, 2010? So, I mean, theoretically, Ocho, it's kind of outdated. You think so? If you look at it. Oh, man, if you look at it, Ocho. Man, these teams flipping these stadiums around, man. Look at the Georgia Dome. Have you seen?

The Georgia Dome. Have you seen SoFi? They got Mercedes-Benz. Right. Huh? You seen SoFi? Yes. Oh, my God.

SoFi, look, and they have a lot of events at Jerry's World because that's the way the building pays for itself. Is that, you know, how many events can you have there? How many truck pulls and concerts and other football games and basketball games? How many other events other than NFL football games can you have at a venue? SoFi is like, look, we're going to have the opening ceremonies. We're going to have, I think they got the World Cup. They got so many events that's going to be held in so far right and that's what and you got to get the latest and greatest yes sir you

got to put the sweets because that's where you make the lion's share of your money because people are paying 500 000 a million dollars two million dollars every year you want to get you want to get a sweet yeah yeah and you got to pay for the food that's going in there okay okay uh so you don't the sweet is one thing you got to pay and that stuff that's going in there. Okay, okay. So, you know, the suite is one thing. You got to pay, and that stuff ain't cheap. Nah. Hell, I think we paying $12 for a can of beer when Ray and I had a suite on the 50-yard line. I mean, we had a great deal.

I mean, we had a great deal. I mean, ain't too many players have a suite on the 50-yard line. But that's what our suite, Ray and our suite, was right next to Mr. Moday. Well, I can't call him Mr. Rested Soul. He rolling over. What did I tell you about calling me Mr. Moday?

Yeah, that's very expensive. But as you see, I think the Bronx, I mean, Mile High, Safeco and Bestco, it's nice. I don't know what it is, the stadium at Mile High. They're looking to do a new stadium. You see Kansas City is about to do a new stadium. You see

Kansas City is about to do upgrades. Soldier Field, they're about to move out a little further. They're about to build a new stadium. That's just the way it is, Ochoa. You got to go state of the art because you got to have more things than just NFL football played in that building. You got to have luxury

suites. You got to have all these bells and whistles. You need to have luxury suites you got to have all these bells and whistles uh you need to have uh five-star michelin star chefs preparing the food and things of that nature yeah it's a it's a different ball game now i mean going to it used to be you go to the ball game mojo right to watch the game now you go to these it's an experience oh yeah most definitely most definitely it's experience they got fanfare they got all the glitz and glam. They got people juggling and they got women dancing and they got concerts before. They got concerts after. It is an experience not going to an indoor sporting event. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what that's. That's. That's. That's. That's all we need is some good food. Oh, Joe. Yeah.

The December 9th, Monday night football matchup between the Bengals and the Cowboys look very appealing when the schedule was released months ago before the season kicked off. Networks like ESPN can work with the league to flex games out of a time slot and replace it with more exciting ones. But today it was revealed the game can't be flexed out for a truly hilarious and unexpected reason. reason the simpson for those asking the bingos monday night football game is not eligible to be flexed out because of all the drawings voiceover and other works that have been done for the simpsons alternate cast that will air that night who would have guessed it homer simpson would be a reason millions of you gonna be subjected to a subpar subpar football game instead of one with oh yeah it don't matter actually honestly this wouldn't be a subpar football game instead of one with... Oh, yeah, it don't matter. Actually, honestly,

this wouldn't be a subpar football game. Offensively, offensively, the Bengals are exciting and entertaining to watch. So they just play offensive football now?

They don't play defense now? You see? You see, you ain't had to go there. You ain't had to go there. Now, I'm telling you why... You do realize, like, the Bengals' defense and the Cowboys' defense

is going to have to come up. Now, the Cowboys' offense might even look confident against y'all. Don't do that. Don't do that. No. I just said, don't Cowboys offense might even look confident against y'all. Don't do that. Don't do that. No. I'm just saying, don't do that.

Oh, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. But again, listen. Our offense is one of the most entertaining offenses that you will tune in to see. Regardless of what our record is, they are exciting to watch. T is back. Jermaine Burton playing well.

Chase is goddamn motherfucking Chase. And I just, as bad as our record is, we're the best, we're the best four and seven team in NFL. I don't even know if that even fucking makes sense. We are the best four and seven. Oh, Joe. Yes,

sir. If you, if you win, if you, if you get first prize in the ugly contest, you still ugly. What the hell are you talking about? I don't,

I don't like, I don't like y'all got it. Y'all got a guy that's going to go for five thousand yards. Y'all got a guy that's going to throw for 5,000 yards. Y'all got a guy that might win the triple crown. You still 4-7? Yeah, I know. That's why I just... See? See? That's why I said we the best 4-17.

It's ugly? Yeah, it's ugly. It's ugly. That's like being the biggest little person in the circus. You still in the circus. You getting your ass out of a little car, 15 of you. What the hell? What the hell are you talking about? I'm trying to find the good in the situation.

You're just making it. You can't find no good. I'm trying to find the good. As good as your offense is, your defense is equally as bad. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. They gave us a chance that second half now.

I'm not sure where that came from, but that second half they gave us a chance. But see, like you said, we needed those stops in the first half so we could get our footing. We got to start fast, man. We're going to talk about that.

Joe Burrow is on pace to finish the season as an early vacation despite leading the NFL in passing yards and passing touchdowns. Joe Burrow is on pace to finish the season as an early vacation despite leading the nfl and passing yards and passing touchdowns joe burrow is projected to finish with 440 680 yards 42 touchdowns and six interceptions which should potentially win him the mvp yeah but guess what he ain't gonna get no votes but instead he has a sub 500 record in his team as a joke. Through the first 11 games, the Bengals are four and seven. Joe has 3,200, 3,028 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and four interceptions. Players to achieve 3,000 passing yards, 27 plus touchdowns and a five or fewer interception through 11 games.

Tom Brady in 2007, 2015. one season he was 16-0. The other season he was 13-3. Aaron Rodgers in 2020, in 2011, in 2020, he was 15-1, 13-3. Patrick Mahomes in 2020, he was 14-2. Drew Brees, 2018, he was 13-3. You see? I think Brady won MVP in both of those seasons, didn't he? Aaron Rodgers, I think Aaron Rodgers won MVP in both of those seasons.

I think Patrick Mahomes won MVP. So because he's 4-7, regardless of what the numbers are, there's no way you win well obviously jerry golf jerry jerry golf and and josh well you got jerry golf playing well enough to win it you got uh uh uh in buffalo jerry uh josh allen playing well enough yeah you got saquon barkley so how do you give it to a guy at the end of the day he putting up all those stats in a losing effort yeah yeah. I mean, yeah. If he was winning, Ocho, yeah. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I ain't saying he needed to be 10-1,

but let's just say for the sake of argument, he's 7-3-1 or he's 8-3. Now we got a whole different discussion with those types of numbers. Different conversation. Yeah. But, yeah, he's having a heck of a season. He's a heck of a player. He's the number one overall pick. Different conversation. Yeah. But yeah, he's having a heck of a season. He's a heck of a player. He's the number one overall pick for a reason.

He got two outstanding receivers, his defense, and he has to put up those type numbers because his defense is bad. Yeah. Ocho, people want to know, is Joe Burrow being wasted in Cincinnatiinnati oh that's a good question that's okay i wouldn't say i wouldn't say it's being wasted in cincinnati think about it

hypothetically speaking obviously joe's going to be there for a decade a decade plus or more where else can he go where else would he go where it wouldn't be wasted because all the other opportunities and other chances for him to be on a team that is good, that had the chance to win a Super Bowl, already have quarterbacks. Think about it. Even if you throw out a hypothetical, what situation would be better than what he's in right now with the offense that he has, even though the defense is bad. Any team that has a good defense,

I guarantee they already have a quarterback. Think about it. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I understand what people are saying and saying, you know, it's being wasted, but there's a reason he's a quarterback. So the point of what they have to do is every team is a quarterback away

from winning a Super Bowl or being able to contend. So the Bengals are in a position to contend year in and year out because of who they have at the helm at quarterback. Now what you have to do is you got to build around him. They already built around him offensively. Now you got to build the goddamn defense. Well well it's gonna hurt you because you got a quarterback on max money yeah a receiver that's not going to give you a discount because you jerked him around so what you could have gotten for say 145 million yeah it's gonna probably cost

you 155 160 and he's gonna want 90 million in guaranteed money. That's the problem that you run into when you kick the can down the road. It's a great thing to have because that means the guy that you selected in the first round, you hit on. The bad news is you got to pay him. Think about it, Ocho. You're probably going to lose Hendrickson.

Remember, he wanted more money. You're going to lose him. He's leading the NFL in sacks right now, too. You're going to lose Hendrickson. Remember, he wanted more money. You're going to lose him. Oh, yeah. He's leading the NFL in sacks right now, too. Yeah. You're going to lose him. Yeah. You need a D tackle.

You need a D tackle. Well, you let Reader go. Yeah. So, y'all got your work cut out for you. Big time. Kicker Evan McPherson has basically cost the Bengals three to four wins. And lost to KC, 26-25. He missed your extra point.

Lost to Washington. He missed the field goal, 38-33. Lost to Baltimore. Missed the field goal, 41-38. Lost to the Chargers. He missed two field goals, 34-27. Hey, same thing with Justin Tucker. You know, I think we can go down to a list of numerous games that have happened throughout the season where I hate saying it, where it shouldn't come down to the kicker, but it actually comes down to the kicker's foot.

It actually comes down to him being. Damn, what's the word I'm looking for for kickers? Him being accurate, you know, for the lack of better terms. And listen, that's a very, very, very tough spot to be in where you can't miss field goals. The goalposts are a lot more, a lot narrower now.

Being able to hit them, you know, I heard Justin Tucker, you know, complain about the surface and listen, it had nothing to do with that. It all... Ocho, let me ask you a question. Yeah. What if I put Joe? What if I put Joe Burr in Minnesota with that defense? Oh, my God.

Well, you might. Hey, you got JJ. He got Addison. He got Hawkinson. That's a good hypothetical. But they got JJ McCarthy. So as a hypothetical speaking on it, you might give him the goddamn trophy. I'm just saying, with that defense

and what Brian Flores is doing with them, man, shit. It's now time for Money Moves presented by DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Give me my money. Give me my money. Josh Allen has officially overtaken Lamar as the MVP frontrunner.

Josh Allen is now a plus 150. Lamar Jackson is a plus 200. Jerry Goff is a plus 600. Jalen Hurts is fourth with plus 1200. Patrick Mahomes is plus 1300. And Kyler Murray is plus 1,500. In the regular season, Josh Allen has passed for 2,543 yards, which is seventh, 18 touchdowns, which is sixth, five interceptions.

He's tied for fifth. I mean, he's tied for 57th, which is a good thing. And his QBR of 72.6 puts him in fourth. Lamar, he's second in passing yards, 2,876. He's second in touchdowns, 25. He's tied for 47 with three interceptions. He's number two in QBR with 75.1. Hey, you know what's funny? Everything, he just ran it down.

With Goff probably, Goff and Josh Allen obviously being the back and forth, it's going to change. Because with Lamar, Lamar's not going to play another bad game like he did against the Steelers. He's going to come out and he's going to be the front runner again.

And then go out and he's going to put on an unbelievable performance. I'm not sure who, I'm not sure what their schedule is or who they're playing next, but the other teams aren't used to them. It's not a divisional game. It's not going to be a divisional game. They're not going to have the structured defense to be able to contain him the way the Steelers do. The Steelers are built to be able to stop a player like himself because they're used to seeing him and understanding that

team's tendencies offensively. So he's going to come out, he's going to have one hell of a day, do some crazy stuff on the ground, do some crazy stuff in the air, and he's going to be back at the number one spot to an MVP. I guarantee you. Yeah, I mean,

look, he has another game against the Steelers. Steelers have given them problems what's Lamar he has some pretty tough games one and four against the Steelers yeah one and four he has another game but this game is at home against the Steelers right who do they have

they got the Steelers I think they got another game against Cleveland at Chargers this week. He's at the Chargers this week. Eagles at home. At Giants. Home versus the Steelers. At Texans. Home versus the Browns.

So it ain't like he got some cupcakes on the schedule now. Ain't no cupcakes. But again, every team you just named don't have the personnel like the Steelers do to be able to stop what he's able to do and what he does well. What about the personnel going up against his defense? What about

the Eagles offense against that defense? What about the Texas offense against that defense? You see? Hey, can I tell you something? I don't know if people, but you do know your Raven team is dead last in the secondary when it comes against the pass. Ocho, I've been trying. Ocho, you see, when I tell people that,

they say, well, you trying to, you trying to. No, if you just see that when people tell me, oh, now you can tell Shannon didn't watch the game. You watching it, but you don't know what the hell you looking for. You're like a blind dog in a meat house. You can't tell me fronts. You can't tell me coverages. You can't tell me formations.

You can't tell me anything. All you watching for is touchdowns and sacks. I'm watching to understand why they have success. So, why you tell me I'm not watching it, you watching it, but you don't know what the hell you're looking at. It's like you're watching a foreign film. And they got subtitles. Unless they give you it, but you don't know the hell you're looking at. It's like you're watching a foreign film. And they got subtitles. Unless they give you subtitles, you don't know what the hell you're looking at.

I've been telling them. But they gave me excuses. Wait till this guy comes back. Wait till that guy comes back. Well, I saw you guys in there when you had those guys, and your defense was still bad in past defense. Much better to stop the run. At some point time fans

gonna have to understand everybody is not a hater sometimes people are just trying to give you information our job is sometimes to be is to be entertaining is to be informative to be educational okay yes i say a lot of things in a joking manner right but i'm actually giving you factual information if you just listen to it, but you don't want to, because you want to paint this narrative that, Oh, Shannon is a hater.

But listen, what Shannon said, when it comes back, what I tell you, then you talk about, Oh, Oh, I could have kept it obvious.

Well, you didn't say it. Right. But if we don't just don't want to get no credit, well, if people don't want to get no credit but if people don't want to get no credit because if i didn't if i didn't say it why didn't you say that before i said it when i knew that no you didn't because i take it to the black i'll take you to the board and say oh drop me a cover

six drop me cover seven give me fire zone okay give me this, give me this formation. Give me this protection. I want you to redirect. What you mean by that? No! You know if you're watching the games, you should know! Right. I don't think the casual fan can't do that. Hell no they can't! But they just want to jump on your timeline and try to, well, he ain't watching the

game. I am watching the game. I also know that when you throw the ball more than you run it, Evan Raven, you lose. That's what I do know. Yeah. I mean, it's right. The stats are right there. I'm the one that said, put Derrick Henry in the eye. Ain't nobody else say that.

I said it from the drunk, Ocho. I said he's not his own readback because he's a long strider, and you don't get, he needs time to be able to redirect. When you put him that close to the line, he's such a long strider and you don't get you need he needs time to be able to redirect when you put him back close to the line he's such a long strider he can't redirect his feet barry sanders a short strider can do it he's perfect that's perfect for him but derrick henry needs to be able to change direction he needs to be able to check his feet and cut back get back

downhill that's why you put his heels at eight you you toss it to him, you hand it to him, and boom. Now, whoever drew up that damn play that they tossed that ball to Derrick Henry and they let T.J. Watt come in there and blow his ass up, they should have put him back there running back and let the same thing happen. Don't block T.J.

Watt and let T.J. Watt knock his ass in the dirt. The tackle should have known better. The right tackle should have known better. I'm not sure what the blocking assignment was, but why would you let T.J. Watt knock his ass in the dirt? I mean, the tackle should have known better. The right tackle should have known better. I'm not sure what the blocking assignment was, but why would you let T.J. Watt run Scott free with the pitch, even though the pitch is going the opposite way still? He coming.

Every time, and he going to get there every time. Yes. I'm just like, who thought that was a good idea? Hey, we're going to run this toss play week, but we're going to unblock TJ. Why? Okay. And you see what happened? Damn, they got digger.

And I'm like, that's why I stopped playing running back. Cause I got tired of my bad shot. Well, it ain't your bad. I weighed out a damn field. I ain't got to worry about my bad. I ain't got to worry about my bad. Don't show. I got tired of you, man.

My bad. That's me. That's all me. Dude. I got me looking at my ear hole, but you talking about your bad. What did that do? The crowd doesn't... Hey, speaking of that, think about how bad it is for quarterbacks when the O-line is playing bad, when they can't block and the quarterback continues to get sacked over and

over and over, and you can't fuss with them, Then you have to keep your mannerisms and your facial expressions has to be on point no matter how many times you get hit in the game. Imagine. Yes. I want to... Oh, Joe.

Let me ask you a question. When the Cowboys fell behind by 10, 13 points with no threat of the running game, what you think the Texans thinking? They ain't playing for no draw. They not playing for no run. They pinning their ears back.

Absolutely. Everybody in the stadium know you not going to run it. And now you made it very, it's very, I don't care who your offensive lineman are. You let them jokers know that every single down, you going to throw. Yeah.

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Drew Locke to prepare. Ocho, if I'm going to lose, I don't want nobody to get any chance of thinking we're going to win this game. Drew Locke is going to gocho, if I'm going to lose, I don't want nobody to get any chance of thinking we're going to win this game. Drew Locke going to go in there and try to win this game and try to show he deserves a chance. No, you get your ass. Hold on.

Danny DeVito, not that bad now. Man, look here. Danny DeVito, that's exactly right. You got his name right. Danny DeVito. Hold on, how you say his real name? Tommy. You right, Danny. Tommy DeVito. That's exactly right. You got his name right. Danny DeVito. His real name, Tommy. You're right, Danny.

That's him. He gonna give you the same results as Danny DeVito. Alright. You wanna make a little bet? You wanna make a little bet coming out of the bag? Coming out of the bag for the Giants? The only thing that's a buy is this season. Buy.

Buy. That's the... That's the... That's the... Tommy. Tommy DeVito. Tommy. Yeah.

But think about... I'm talking about Danny DeVito. I'm sure. Think about this. Yes, sir. Drew Locke was the second string. Yeah. They promoted the third string, which tells me we want the high draft pick.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Drew Locke could potentially win a game. We ain't finna win with him. Jones benched and singled the end of a six-year run with the Giants as starting quarterback. The Giants went 13-3 in games started by Jones over the past two seasons,

and they ranked last in the league in scoring. His career record is 24-44-1. Hey, give me those stats that you gave me this morning. 22-what? I'm going to give you he's 24 he started what 70 games

he's 24 44 and 1 god damn Ocho they gave this man a contract extension 40 million dollars 160 on 60

now you tell me Ash is pulling up. No, I want his record. 2019, 2021. Before we go. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody know.

Everybody know who you are. The Panthers talk about reportedly have interest in Daniel Jones. God, please. To do what? Ocho. Yes, sir. He started 12 games. He's a rookie.

He went three and nine. The next season, he went five and nine. The next season, he went four and seven. He goes nine, six, and one, and he gets a contract extension. Now, see, you see what they did? They disregarded the previous three seasons. A big sample size for the small sample size because we want to justify giving this man this money.

You see what they did? You see? Now, we're going to disregard the 3-9. We're going to disregard the 5-9. We're going to disregard. Now, he had 11 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 10 touchdowns, 7 interceptions. He went 15-5. Let's give him a raise.

That 15-5 looked good. That 15-5, 96 record, that looked good. Okay, maybe he's going in the right direction. After the first three years, or the first two, no, the first three, he didn't look like he should. Boom. The year where it counts, which we call it the contract where you want to give a quarterback some money, they saw the improvement

as opposed to the small sample size that they did see. Okay, maybe he's moving out. They made Lamar Jackson play under the franchise tag. Oh, yeah. After he won an MVP. But that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought him up, Ocho. Let me keep my mind shut. Because, first of all, quarterback is the only position

that you get paid on potential. If Jamar Chase wasn't doing what he was doing, he can't get no money. They can't say, well, you know what? I think Jamar Chase is heading in the right direction. Let's give him top number one receiver money. All the guys.

Name a position, other than quarterback, that you get paid on money. All the guys. Name a position other than quarterback that you get paid on potential. I'm not saying Joe Burr. There are guys that earn that money. But a lot of these quarterbacks get paid on, man, I believe he's turned the corner. They don't ever pay another position believing that he's turned the corner.

No. And there's a whole another conversation, and I don't want to go there, but you did bring it up. You know, it was the elephant in the room. You talk about they made Lamar Jackson play on the what? Franchise day. Okay.

Even after he won the MVP. But they didn't make Daniel Jones. Never mind. Yeah. I ain't breaking no... Everybody can see it. Yeah. I ain't breaking no... I don't think I... Everybody can see it. Yeah.

Ain't nobody gonna say it. Hell, the three blind mice saw it. Yeah. Oh, damn. That's effed up. But, hey, it couldn't happen to a better organization than the Giants. Serge, you're right. Because you didn't want to play Saquon.

Oh. You know, they don't value the running back position, as they said. Fairly dear. Now look at him. Look at Joe Mixon. Look at what Joe Mixon is doing for the Houston Texans. Derrick Henry can do that when they give him the ball. We see what he does for the Ravens

offense. He makes them almost undefendable. Indefensible. Excuse me. But okay. Joy Porter Jr. sells will call tickets for 400 apiece over the weekend. Talk ball with Joy Porter Jr. He did

Blackest Egg Pollen. Huh? Yeah, no, no, I'm saying this guy did, right? Joy Porter family, Joy Porter Jr. family sells his tickets. Right. Okay. Joy Porter Jr. family sells will call tickets for $400 a piece

over the weekend. Talked ball with Joy Porter's family. They did the Blackest Thing Possible. They sold their Will Call ticket for 400 apiece. I seen nephew play enough ball. I know what he do. Respect. Make it a business. Yeah. Make it a business.

Hey. That was funny. Ocho. Yes, sir. Would you care if your family sold tickets you left for them at Will Call? No. Probably not. Probably not not I'm leaving tickets for you at will call that I'm probably getting for free anyway and if you want to make a little side money on that you know I have no

I have no problem with your hustle I have no problem with your hustle because that means you ain't gonna be asking me for no money no I'm trying to think. What do you think? Y'all don't get in the game. As a matter of fact, depending on who we playing,

they definitely ain't coming. They're showing up. But you already know. But I mean, for the most part, Ocho, if I leave somebody tickets at Will Call, especially my family, I already know they're coming. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, first of all, they stay with me or they stay at the hotel that I pay for. So I know they're bringing it in. Right, right, right.

So I've never really thought about it, Ocho. I haven't either. I mean, just for the case, for the scenario you're talking about, I mean, I don't really see any family members. Oh, yeah. As a matter of fact, I did. I got my homeboy, I got bucket tickets to the Super Bowl. Right. And they ended up, I guess they left more than what they should.

Man, he said, homeboy, I sold him tickets. I said, well, what about cut? Both, both, both. How you going to sell something I gave you? I'm like, man, That financed my trip. Yeah. That's funny. No, but I'm like you, OJ.

I ain't crying over that. Hell, because you leave them long enough, hell, they'll sell them. People pull up and sell them. So you got a certain amount of time to get your ass to the game, or they're going to sell them. Yeah. Oh, well. The Lakers have commissioned a statue of Pat Riley to join the Laker legend in Star Plaza outside trip.com arena.

Jeannie Bussard shared plans with Riley today over video alongside Kareem, Michael Cooper, Magic Johnson, A.C. Green, Kurt Rammert, James Worthy, Vladi Divac, Karen West, and Chris Riley. Riley had a defining impact on the Lakers' legacy, winning six total championships with the Lakers for the head coach, one as an assistant coach in 1980, and one as a player in 1972. The eighth Laker to be commemorated in the Star Plaza, Riley would join Elgin Baylor, Kobe Bryant, Chick Hearn, Magic Johnson,

Shaquille O'Neal, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Jerry West that's a lot you said they getting the statue? I hope they don't get the guy that did D-Wade's statue nah, and you know in LA they not doing that man they have Pat Ryder look at that Fabio they not doing that

that's dope that's dope that's dope I need I want me a statue huh? I want me a statue I don't know what to tell you Ocho Ocho it's time for Rough Draft

presented by Oscar Meyer. This segment is brought to you by Oscar Meyer Bacon. Oscar Meyer smokes their bacon for 12 really long hours, which is twice as long as the industry standard, which is where you get that delicious smoky flavor from. Ocho, today's

prompt, best wide receivers. We're going to pick six each, 12 total to represent the 12 hours of smoked bacon. Ocho, your boy go first. Why are you? Okay. I got Jamal Chase. Oh, come on, man. I ain't going to come up. I ain't going to come up. Huh? Oh, come on, man. I ain't gonna come up.

I ain't gonna come up. Huh? Oh, we going ever? Oh, I thought we talking this year. Oh, I got Jerry. I got Jerry Rice, dude. Okay, you got Jerry? We talking about Ben Ever?

Yep. All right, I'm going T.O. I got Randy Moss. Calvin Johnson. I got Marvin Harrison Antonio Brown I got Larry Fitzgerald Andre Johnson Okay

Who do I want? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know who I'm going with? I'm going with Don Hudson. What? Don Hudson.

Are you sure that's who you want to pick? That's absolutely who I want to pick. You know what? Give me Jimmy. H-U-T-S-O-N. Give me... I'm trying to think.

I got three names right here, right? I either want to go Torrey Holt, I want to go Isaac Bruce, or I want to go Jimmy Smith. You go whoever you want to. You got two more Ocho Okay I'm going to go with Izy Bruce

Okay I like that That's a nice little one I got one more for you too It don't matter who you pick My list won You know what I was going to go this one, but I ain't finna leave my brother off this list.

I'm going my brother. Help y'all. I like that. I like that. And the count of you going with Sterling, you know, show the respect. Give me Steve Smith Sr. Okay. Give me Steve Smith Sr. I thought you was going to pick yourself, Ocho.

Listen, I never pick myself. I never pick myself. If I didn't put my brother on, I was going to put Julio. Oh, I forgot about Julio. That's a good one. You want to do an honorable mention? We ain't got no honorable mention because we got to do 12. Okay, okay.

Because 12 long hours. Chat, who won? Who won there for chat? Come on with it. I know they're going to say I won. Ocho, they it i know they're gonna say i won oh joe they'll tell my oh joe you lost they don't know they don't know nothing about no football that's why oh joe i got random off the jerry rice i got i got t i got t.o i got t.o i got t.o i got random balls and jerry rice i got wait wait, I can't even remember my damn names.

You got T.O., Megatron, A.B., Andre Johnson, Isaac Bruce. Hey, did you just read, did you hear who I got? Yes. Okay, I won. I don't know what the chat's talking about. Obviously, those aren't real football fans if they think you won. I got Jerry Rice, who's the GOAT. Many people, some people like you,

would believe in that Randy Bones, the GOAT. So I got two of the greatest receivers ever, two of the top three. I got them on my roster. Listen, Antonio. I got Marvin Harrison Jr. I got Larry Fitzgerald. I got Don Hudson.

And I got my, man, I'm done. Don Hudson. Hey, Chad. I already know I and I got my... Man, I'm done. Don Hudson. Hey, chat. I already know I won this one. Don Hudson, really? Go look at... Hey, put Don Hudson's stats up on there. Hold on, hold on, hold on. T.O. Antonio Brown, Andre Johnson, right? Isaac...

You can't see my list. Calvin Johnson. Like, come on, man. Stop playing, man. What you talking about? Hey. What you talking about? Ocho, you can't see my list ain't nobody seeing that list yeah whatever and people in the chat they just hyping you up they don't know no better they don't know better man hey they don't know oh check this out i got hold on i got i got 400 touchdowns receiving between my two talkies. I got 197 and 153. So that's 450 receiving touchdowns.

Marvin Harrison's over 20. Landfish Joe is over 20. Don Hutz, I mean, over 100. I got four, like five of my guys are over 100 receiving touchdowns on choke. Listen, I have the better squad. I don't care what the numbers say. You pull up Don Hudson's stats. Put Don Hudson's stats on there.

Hold on, I got to put some stats on there. He was that guy, Ocho. Don Hudson. Yeah. He was that. Charlie Hennigan. Bambi. Lance Allworth.

Yeah. Those were the guys before the Jerrys and all these guys came along. Right. Those were the guys. Ocho. Yeah. Ocho. Yeah. Ocho. Don Hudson had less than

500 catches and 99 touchdowns. You know what that tells me? And he had 30 interceptions. You know what? Alright. He good. He nice. and he had 30 interceptions. You know what? All right. He good.

He nice. Nice. I ain't going to say nothing. I ain't going to disrespect Mr. Brother Don Hudson. I'm going to let you have it. Damn, I had to put some socks on, boy. Shit.

It's cold in here. Hey, but the chat don't know. Real football people know I won. Ocho, I'm blowing the doles off you. I'm blowing the doles off Ocho. The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.

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