Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Brandon Aiyuk joins the show

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by San Francisco 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk to discuss their Super Bowl loss to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. They also discuss Aiyuk's ongoing contract negotiations with San Francisco and he fires back at QB Brock Purdy's social media haters. 02:45 - Start of show 10:40 - Mike McCarthy tells people not to feel sorry for him  25:00 - Brandon Aiyuk joins the show 30:00 - Aiyuk on contract situation “They’re trying to get it done. I’ve done things the right way since I’ve in the building” 34:45 - Unc asks Aiyuk if he thinks about Super Bowl play when he was open 37:00  Why doesn’t Brock Purdy get his props?  38:30 - Aiyuk on where he fits amongst the best WRs  54:30 - Caleb Williams response to criticism of pink nails   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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able to accommodate you with your orders. So thank you very much for that. Shout out to Outway for hooking us up. These custom t-shirts. Look at your boy. Hey, well that thing thing, that saw. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's nice. But what am I? She sent you one. Who sent me one? What a dress.

As a matter of fact, she gave them to you. She gave them to us. We was there. Dr. Bellamy. Okay. Okay. I'm just making a show now I'm making a show

Matter of fact, you know what's funny? Let me tell you how bad I am That suitcase from Vegas Ask me if I unpacked it yet You hadn't unpacked it yet? Hell nah, everything I got from Vegas That people gave me, anything that I bought Well, I only went to

I only went to H&M. All that stuff is still in my suitcase, man. Oh, my bad. Ash is telling us these aren't the ones that Dr. Bellamy gave us. We're wearing these. These t-shirts came out from Outweigh. I guess they have a t-shirt business

and they hooked us up. Oh, wait a minute. You said they hooked us up. Who is us a minute. You said they hooked us up. Who is us? Because you're the only one with one. They hooked me up. Oh, I'll tell you who us is. Me, myself, and I.

Three people got these shirts. They said they'd only make them an extra large. And they knew you weren't going to be able to fit it. So, yeah. They said you look like a geriatric. And they didn't want that to happen. Now, hey, listen. Ain't nothing geriatric about this, baby. Ain, yeah. They say you look like a geriatric and they didn't want that to happen. Nah, hey, listen. Ain't nothing geriatric about this, baby. Ain't nothing.

Listen, I'm 225, 6'3", 225 all day, every day. But it's cool. If they would like to send me, if they would like to send me a t-shirt, I would like to have one so I can wear. I hope Ash doesn't steal it. Because, you know, Ash has, I don't know, I think Ash is a klepto. Because your plaque. That's why they're supposed to have it pinned there, Ocho, I don't know, I think Ash is the klepto. Because your plaque.

Yeah. Ash was supposed, that's why they supposed to have been there, Ocho. I don't know how Gil got his before you got yours. I'm trying to, because you held on to it

instead of sending it to me. Don't blame it on Ash. It was your job. This is our show. You can't blame anything on Ash. It's your job to get anything that's sent to you,

sent to me. Amazon has next day delivery. Next day delivery. You don't blame Jeff Bezos when you don't get your damn packages. Well, I wouldn't have to blame Jeff because Jeff isn't hands on. Okay, I ain't hands on. I ain't working in the mail room. You are working in the mail room when you get your mail.

And it say, oh, you say, oh, they sent me two plaques. You know what? If you would have thought of me, you would have said, you know what? Let me get this out to Ocho right now so he can have his plaques so we can introduce him on the show together. That would have been a... That sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately,

that didn't happen. Yeah, it would have been a good idea if I had my damn plaques. Man, I don't know what happened, Ocho. Ocho, but you know, you're born here in Colorado, and I had some appearances for a Laporte and I must honestly say the people incho, but you know, you're born here in Colorado, and I had some appearances for a LaPorte and I must honestly say the people in Colorado, they showed up for you

boy today. Ocho, we have a young lady. Yes. She's in the military. She drove 23 hours nonstop from Birmingham, Alabama because she heard I was going to be at a Total Wines today at County Line. So she drove nonstop.

She purchased a case of LaPorte 8. Wait, not one, a whole case. Now, for better context on purchasing the whole case, can you tell the chat how much a whole case costs? I don't know, because what we sell it for and then what the distributors sell it for and then what the, what the distributor sell it for and then what the store sell it for. But, uh, it's, it's,

it's, but for her, even if it costs $50, think about it. Who drive me 23 hours, nonstop 23 hours. Listen, that that's special.

That's that's, that's special military. I hope, I hope you get, I hope you took a picture. Yeah, we took a picture. She got some stuff signed.

She's in the military. She was supposed to be in the field. She found out a week or so ago that I was going to be in Colorado. She scheduled her field assignment to be in Colorado. So not only could she pick up the shade bottle of 48, but to actually meet me. We had a guy came from Texas. He bought 10 bottles. A lot of the people like, man, I've already

had four bottles. I've already purchased five bottles. And one dude, Ocho, he was in the military. He said, my man, I spent 300 days in Afghanistan and Iraq and I've never been as nervous as I am standing right next to you to meet you and talk to you.

The man spent 300 days in Afghanistan and Iraq. And he said, I mean, it was such a great feeling to go to the Total Wise, to go to the Davidson's. I went to a GSM meeting. It was great.

So thank you, Colorado, for being so supportive and supporting your favorite Unk. I wasn't Unk when I was here. I came back, but thank you for supporting shade sharp. Whatever you guys call me. I really, really appreciate it because none of this is special.

None of this is possible without you guys. So I just want to take time to shout you guys out. Thanks to the team. Jamie came into town. Eugene does a great job because it's his job to get us into states, get us into distributors, and get it into shelves, and get it into on-premise bars,

restaurants, and hotels. So thank you to all the team that worked very hard to make this happen. Ocho, we have a very special guest tonight. Brandon Ayuk will be joining. Brandon Ayuk. Yeah, boy. I'm on his ass, too, boy. I'm on his head, man. I hope he be joining Brandon. I you. Yeah, boy, I'm on, I'm on his ass too. I'm on it.

I'm on it. I'm on his head now. I hope he ready to talk. I hope he, I don't want, listen, I don't want none of that politically correct. I don't want none of them politically correct answers.

Like you're a quarterback. You come on here. We talking like you're in the locker room or like we in the barbershop. That's how we're going to do. I want to make sure. Don't come on here with that pretty stuff. I'm going to let him know. I'm going to let you get first crack at it once I introduce him.

Yeah, let me know. It's time for our first segment of the night, and it's a news cap. Mike. Mike McCarthy said, don't feel bad for me. Mike McCarthy says he isn't looking for pity. Don't feel bad for me. I'm in a great spot. It's not an issue.

You have such, I have the same approach every year. That's the way I've gone about it. Mike McCarthy had all the talent in the world, only for his team to be one and three in the postseason. And that's what he has to show. His contract expires at the end in the world only for his team to be 1-3 in the postseason, and that's what he has to show. His contract expires at the end of the season. So does Dak Prescott. Ocho,

I would like things I've never heard people say for 1,000. What if I feel sorry for Mike McCarthy? Who in the hell said that? Nobody. Nobody at all. But listen, for one, as fans, fans, the fans of Cowboys fans probably feel sorry for Mike McCarthy. No, they don't.

Other coaches, you don't think so? No, they don't. I think they, okay, they want him gone. So you can't feel sorry for somebody that's stealing the job, Ojo, and you want him out. Listen, they got to feel sorry for him because you got to understand what he has to deal with. He's powerless. His hands are tied behind his back. Yes, he is the coach of the Dallas Cowboys, but he can only do so much and really has no say.

So he's somewhat powerless, if for lack of better terms to say. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him. Why does everybody continue to come out and say things? Jerry says stuff. Now, Mike McCarthy's saying stuff. Of course, you're going to take the same approach that you've always taken. Maybe you need to do something different as a coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Maybe the results will be different come this season. But I mean, listen, I mean, I don't even know what else to say. Because at every turn, guess who's making the headlines?

The Cowboys. Continuously. Now, I understand. I understand. I'm very smart and understand the Dallas Cowboys move the needle when it comes to media. They just do. The Cowboys, the Lakers, the Yankees, they move the needle when it comes to media they just do the cowboys the lakers the yankees they move the needle but again at some point with you moving the needle the results and the

production has to match up with the attention you get through the media and it just doesn't let me tell you something i've never heard i've never heard of a person owning an exotic snake a cobra a gaboon viper, or whatever the case may be, a venomous snake, and then all of a sudden they get bit and somebody say, you know what, I feel sorry for them. I've heard people say it serves you right because you shouldn't have had the damn snake to begin with.

Name the person that you've ever heard, they own a lion, a tiger, or a bear, and they get mauled and people say, damn, I feel so bad for them. It serves you right. If you go coach for the Dallas Cowboys, nobody's going to see,

feel sorry for you because you know what you was getting into when you brought your funky ass in the house. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, but obviously you have to understand head coaching jobs, especially a head coaching job like that one of that magnitude with that

type of exposure for a historic franchise. That's something you don't pass up as a head coach. But again, understanding what you have to do, do with understanding what you have to do as a coach there and the pressure that's added on because the star that's on the helmet. And then. The higher up that you have to deal with's going to take all the attention and want all the credit. That's a, that's a tough task. So in, in, in the,

in that term, I do feel bad for Mr. McCartney. Guess what? You could have got a less, you could have got a non-evident snake or you could not have got a snake at all. You could not,

you didn't have to get the big cash. You didn't have to get a lion, a tiger or bear. You could guess what you could have got. You could have got a chihuahua or you could have got a sheep or a miniature pony, but you chose that. Guess what you could have got? You could have got a chihuahua. Or you could have got a sheep or a miniature pony. But you chose that. So you can't have somebody feel sorry for you, Ocho, with something you chose.

Man, Ocho went off-roading. Flipped his Jeep. Well, why the hell did he go off-roading anyway? I don't feel, Ocho, I don't feel sorry for a person that put themselves in that situation. You can't put yourself in a situation and then ask people to feel sorry for the situation you put yourself in. Put yourself in. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. Okay, like you tell me all the time. You know who Jerry is. You know what Jerry gonna do. And then you want me to feel sorry for a man that go take the job. No, you already know he's gonna emasculate you jerry's voice is gonna be it's gonna drown your voice out you gotta accept that

i don't know he looking for pity man that's what i'm saying he's looking for pity ain't nobody feeling sorry for you like man y'all feel sorry for me man i ain't got no contract extension you know y'all know how jerry is oh cho it's like if you go to one of these countries and some and one of these these kings they got five wives if you're the sixth wife how's somebody gonna feel sorry for you you okay yes he got three trillion dollars but guess what you chose to put yourself in that environment so whatever comes along with it you've got to accept it so whatever comes along with being the coach of the dallas cowboys as long as jerry jones is the owner you've got to be willing to accept it right i can see if

it happened up almost um you know sometimes you know things happen you know i sometimes, you know, things happen, you know, I'm cooking grease pops on me. I feel bad for you. I don't feel bad for somebody get having grease popped on them. I don't know if you've been fried, you know, I've been frying chicken, you know, the grease get hot, you know, grease got to be hot to fry chicken a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You do. Yeah. But let me, let me ask you a question. Like, honestly. Regardless, the chat's not here. Like between me and you, like you honestly don't feel bad for Mike McCarthy as the coach of the Cowboys, understanding what he has to endure as a head coach. No, I don't. Because think about it, Ocho. The man had had guys. I mean, Brett Favre had one MVP. So he coached guys.

That guy had five MVPs between them. He got one Super Bowl appearance. Five. One Super Bowl appearance. I'm trying to figure out how to feel sorry for what? Look at it. And you can't say, well, all he had was Brent Favre. Look at the receivers that he's had.

Oh, no, he had some receivers. Look at the defense. He had Charles Wilson. He had a lot of guys on the defensive side. He had Clay Matthews Jr. He had a lot of guys. Right. Every year we start the season,

the Cowboys are the most talented team in the NFL. From top to bottom, only the Kansas City Chiefs have drafted more Pro Bowl players than the Dallas Cowboys. Every single year. They win two games. This is a different team. We've never seen a team, a Cowboys team, this complete. They can run the football. They can throw the football.

They can rush the passer. They can stop the running game. Every single year. And every single year,. They can rush the passer. They can stop the running game. Every single year. And every single year, I get to sit back here. Told you. Damn, man. That sucks, though. But we the boys.

Every year, they take me to the boys. We them boys. That sucks. I mean, they them boys, but for me, from the outside looking in, as a fan of the game of football, I want to see them achieve greatness. Not in the regular season. I want to see them achieve greatness in the postseason. I want Dak to succeed. Why do I want Dak to succeed?

Because I understand as a black quarterback, he's held as a different standard sometimes. Playing for that team with a star on his helmet. Everything is different. Everything is magnified. Everything is under a microscope. I want him to succeed. I remember, I know a guy. I think his name is like Ocho Cinco.

Yeah, that's me. Oh, that's you? That says, you don't care what the field is like. You don't care what's going on. You that boy. I got a mofo job to do. So I don't care what goes on. I don't care what the coach say.

I got to do my job. Now, that's what you do. Okay, now I told you that in context of how I approach the game. And if you watch me throughout the years, you understood that's exactly how I play. You say that's what other people should do. You say it. You say it. Right, right, right. That's what they got about. You got hype. I mean, you got

animated. I was scared. Yeah, yeah. I get very passionate about that topic. I was so afraid. I was so afraid. I called 911. I said, look, I like the boy. I'm just saying, Ochoa, I got sprayed. I was scared. I was like, Ochoa, I'm going to snap.

Because I felt, Ochoa, I felt in danger. Because you snapped. Right, right. You said, I don't give a... My bad, my bad. I wrote this here. You do your job. I said, wow, Ochoa, that's me.

That's me. I'm saying your biggest thing. Right, right. You're snapping on me. Right, right. Not're snapping on me. Right, right. Not one snapping on you. I was talking to you, not snapping on you.

I said, oh, and now you feel sorry for Dak because his owner. That's what you just said. You said you feel sorry. Oh, yeah. Now, I know you feel sorry for Dak. Don't say anything. You don't feel sorry for Dak. You have to deal with that shit. How do you feel sorry for a guy making $45 million?

Forget the money. Money aside. Forget the money. Forget the money. Matter of fact, he makes $45 million. He need every goddamn cent of that motherfucker

having to deal with the bullshit he got to deal with over there in Dallas. And I'm not talking about the fan. The fans are awesome. The players are awesome. It's about what he has to deal from the top,

the person who cut the goddamn check. You deserve every penny of that 45 if that's all he got to deal with our owner that's all he got to deal with our owner talking to me hey hey boy that is more than just that it's more than just that you have to understand because of that owner you put a bullseye on your back you You put a target on your back. It makes it worse for everybody else. It makes it worse for the entirety of the team. You know, that is bulleted ball material week in and week out. When you go play the Cowboys, what's the first thing you think the opposing team do?

Goddamn head coach, we put on a clip of what Jerry had to say the week before the game. Hey, I don't care. Guess what? I'm the bullseye. Goddamn head coach. We put on a clip of what Jerry had to say the week before the game. I don't care. Guess what? I'm the bullseye. Your mama wear arm. I got you. I'm going to start it.

I'm going to jump it. I wanted to get started from the jump. Yeah, that's what I'm doing, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I feel you. I feel you. I just, I don't know man it's it's weird it's funny it's funny i'm talking crazy but i was i was our jerry jones in cincinnati you get what i'm saying in a sense week in and week out every wednesday oh i'm talking trash to the other team right

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First round. A.B. First round draft pick. Guy had an outstanding season this year. For the San Francisco 49ers, you go through the season, you're healthy.

You have the type of season that you thought you should have. And now you guys get to the playoffs and you're playing well and you get to the Super Bowl. Talk us through that Super Bowl because you guys came out on fire. You had a lead,

a 10-point lead for very much of the ballgame. And then you let it get away. They tied up in regulation, take it to overtime, and you guys unfortunately lose that ball game. So tell me what's your mindset and what's the team mindset in that game going into the game? Going into the game, just going into the game,

playing our best ball, trying to play clean ball, playing football, because when we do that, we win ball games. So just trying to play clean, trying to play our ball, playing football, because when we do that, we win ball games. So just trying to play clean, trying to play our brand of football. But, yeah, that was it. The game, it went a different direction

than we thought. You know, we were trying to grasp hold of it multiple times in the game, but we just couldn't fully grasp it. And we never did. You guys

had a 10-point lead. I mean, you guys were in control. And I was talking about having been in games like this, Brandon. I'm like, when you have control of the game, how much separation can you put between you and the other team when you have that control? Because you know they're going to get it.

Eventually, you're not going to have the momentum throughout the entirety of the game. So how much separation? Did you say that, damn, man, you look up, you're like, man, we outplayed them the whole game and they only down by seven points. They only down by three points. The whole game.

I mean, the whole game. I think it was multiple times. Just starting off the game, I think, like you said, we was 10-0, 7-3, 7-whatever. When we was up, I can't remember exactly, but we was up and there was multiple times just starting off the game i think like you said we was 10 0 7 3 7 whatever when we was up i don't i can't remember exactly but we was up and there was multiple uh multiple times where defense going out there getting stops going out there going starts getting going out there getting stops but we coming off the field too so it was in it was in those moments where you like this game especially who we playing on the other side where it's just like you never at

ease just because you're like we gotta stay on the field we gotta put points up because we already know how we know we've seen this story too many times so and unfortunately we've seen it when we see it another time but like y'all said man we back to it i just started to climb back up this week i just you know i was telling i enjoyed my birthday in march i was i was in mexico cooling with the fam telling happy birthday happy birthday just just getting just getting right just getting back ready to try to climb back up again. That's all it is. And trying to get something else before that.

Yeah. Hey, speaking of something else before that, listen, you're one of the best in the league. I'm talking about top five. Listen, your resume, it speaks for itself. You're going into your fifth season. Last year, you had 75 catches, 1,300-some yards, seven TDs, and you was ranked second in the NFL and YPC, right? So that speaks for itself. So there should be no discussion when it comes to taking care of you when it comes to your value.

I'm sick about that second one because, look, the whole entire – Yeah. YPC, I was sick. I finished second because, look, the whole entire – that was YPC. I was sick. I finished second. You know who was first? Who first? Pickens was first.

Pickens had – Pickens, though, I'm leading it the whole entire year. I'm leading the whole entire year, YPC. Last game of the season. I think Pickens didn't have no catches in the last game of the season. Last game of the season. What's his name? Purdy ain't play. They sent me out there, and I lost it in the last last week so i'm mad about that i should be saying one

but it's all you yeah yeah but it's it's listen there's certain things that that we can see from the outside looking in i can see so when it comes to and i hate i hate most of the time you know players don't really like to talk about their contract negotiations or anything having to do with money. But I will do it for you. You don't have to say anything. But you are so fucking valuable to that offense. You are what I call a true number one who can play on the outside. You can play on the inside.

You can beat any goddamn coverage there is that's out there. You're one of the few players in the NFL that plays receiver where you don't need your offensive coordinator's help to get open. When the coach tell you, I need you to get open here on third and two or whatever it is,

no matter what they got lined up in front of you, you're one of the few that can go out there and get open on the muscle. So I don't understand what the issue is over there with the GM and your owners, but I just understand you deserve to get paid. And I ain't just talking about

no any money. I'm talking about 30, 32 a year. And I need 3%. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Hey, hey. Yeah, always, always.

You know what I'm saying? I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Don't do that. Don't do that. I appreciate that. You're good. You're good.

So, Brandon, obviously your representative has been talking to John Lynch, who's the general manager. And there have been the swirlings about he's going to get traded, blah, blah, blah. But John Lynch came out earlier this week and said, I promise you, nothing is going on there. And then you had the IG story with the emojis, the money, the talking, the BS, and the walking. So what's

been relayed to you, as much as you can divulge, what's been relayed to you through your representative? They're trying to get work done. They're trying to get work done. I mean, they're trying to get work done. That's all I can say.

Y'all know how it gets. I don't even want to get work done. That's all I can say. Y'all know how it gets. I don't even want to get too far into that. I'm just trying to get what Elcho just said. I'm trying to get what I deserve. I felt like this season, playing football, I figured out who I was as a person, as a player. What I bring to the table, what I bring to the locker room, what I bring to organization.

And just the value I hold when I walk in that building because people are going to follow me because I've done it the right way since I've been in that building. The first day I walked in there to when I was in there earlier this morning, I've done it the right way. And if they don't see it working, that's all it is.

That's all it is. It ain't nothing else besides that. Like I said, I can't get into it. We got professionals working on both sides, so hopefully we can come to a professional agreement and continue to play professional football. I played in the offense for a number of years, Brandon, and I know one thing as a wide receiver.

You get rewarded for blocking. You're one of the better blocking wide receivers, and you have to in order to have the running back to have success because now when you're blocking downfield, you, Debo, Jenning, Kittle, those four and five yards turning to 20, 25, 30, 40 yards. How much pride do you guys as a unit take pride

in blocking? So much pride. So much pride. That's the one thing before the routes, before touchdowns, before any of the stuff that you see, it just started with that um and i think i think once we once we as a room as a unit um previously in the past we came uh especially debo george guys

like that um we came up and we just said you know what this that's it that's gonna be that's like the standard is the standard that's what it's gonna be so uh we're gonna start with that and i feel like and i feel like uh the moment I start blocking like that, it just kind of carried over into the way that I ran routes, the way that I released, the way that I just played the game. If you had that attacking mindset, I'm just going to put hands on this guy. He's not going to make plays. He's X from this play.

Now you got to route on third down. You're already in the game. You're already flowing. That's how I feel personally. I'm already in the game. You're already flowing. That's how I feel personally. I'm already in the game. I already done made a play. I done set C-Mac free for a 35. He done increased one because I done made a block.

Now I don't – I don't already have – it feels like I already done caught a ball. Now that first play, that might come to me because I might not – I only might get five or six. So I got to make five or six. So playing with that mindset, I feel like it helped me a lot so that's what he came down to to the blocking too as well

that's live like hey listen and that's the funny thing about it is you listen I already talked about you as a receiver

obviously we know what you could do as a receiver but you are you like what I consider complete because when it came to blocking, I was horrible. You wasn't blocking? I was weak. No. I would not. I just run people off. I'm

too little. I couldn't even bench 135. So I just run people off. I haven't got time to be engaging in something that I'm going to lose. Now, from what I heard, if I'm not mistaken, from what I heard, if I'm not mistaken, I heard you could squat almost 500 pounds. Back when I used to squat like that,

I don't squat like that no more. No? Well, you could squat 500 pounds? I probably could put it on there. I'll squat it, but we ain't working out like that. You got to say the legs now, man. Hey, 500 pound squat legs, they don't get

in and out of breaks. I got to start and stop. Exactly. Let me ask you this. The play before you guys kicked the field goal in overtime, you guys had a play, and I don't know how many people have seen it, but I know you've gone back and watched that tape

because LeJarius Sneed missed the jam, and you come wide open, but Chris Jones came free and pressured Purdy, and he ends up throwing the ball away. How many times have you replayed that play in your mind? None. Like, none. Because it's like, well, first of all, that play wasn't going to me.

We running slam return to JJ in the slot the slot um and i already know there's no way this come back i don't think it's gonna come all the way back to me i already know this play this play going here so but front side play front side play so i don't even i don't even too much thing about that play it's the play it's the plays way long before that it's the plays way long before that that that gets me because we had multiple chances long before that one to even tell. So I don't put too much on that play, but yeah, I don't put too much. Yeah. Have you thought have you thought about the Super Bowl and the missed opportunity that you guys had?

I ain't gonna lie. Until before I went to Cabo for my birthday, I was in the house like just run like a zombie. Like I was like, it just wasn't good. So I thought I got to go, I got to go out there and relax and get away from it. Now I'm finally just now able to move forward a little bit. Um, but even just still, just still, cause, cause it's just like champion. Oh my God. I come back, I come in my house and I got, uh, you know, I got, uh, I'm a big Bron fan, but I got Kobe. I got Kobe.

I got a picture of Kobe holding and I got a picture know, I got, I'm a big Bron fan, but I got Kobe. I got Kobe. I got a picture of Kobe holding, and I got a picture of myself shaking Tom Brady's hand in my crib. And I just get back. I'm just sitting there a couple weeks after the game looking at that picture. The day when I got back looking at that picture, like, I didn't really understand the magnitude of what I just had in front of me until now I'm here on this other side. And I don't get to hold it. But at the same time, I'm grateful for it. It gave me, it gave me,

it gave me another, it gave me, it gave me something else to, to see and work towards too. Cause I'm already, I'm already, it's a fact I'm a top receiver in this league. It's a fact,

you know, anything receiver wise, it's a fact we don't have to even get into it, but I'm not a champion. So, right. It gave me, it gave me another,

it gave me something to strive and work towards too. And, and want to get back on this climb again. Brandon, speaking of, I want to ask you, I'm going to ask you about your quarterback,

Brock Purdy, man. He passed over 4,000. He had 31 touchdowns. Obviously he was third in the NFL with those stats, but for some reason he still has some doubters. What do you think is the case for that? And what is it like playing with Brock?

I mean, he played on the Niners. They don't want it. They don't want it. They're going to take forever. They're going to take until the last moment possible to say, all right, we're going to give him his credit. But we

cool with that. We cool with that. I feel like he's an underdog. Myself, I feel like he's an underdog. Um, myself, I feel like I'm an underdog. Um, but you can't hold an underdog down for too long. You can't hold him down no matter how hard you try, you ain't gonna hold him down. So, uh, I enjoyed, I enjoyed playing with him. I had a lot of fun playing with him. Uh, like, but we, we only, we had only just got started. So we'll see what,

we'll see what happens happens going down the road. And yeah, hopefully I'll continue to praise him, which no matter how it goes, he nice. He nice for real. So he nice. He nice. You in that draft, I mean, you look at your draft, you had Hendon Ruggs and Jerry Judy, yourself,

C.D., Justin Jefferson, Jalen Reger, Pittman, and T. Higgins was in the second round, Mooney. I mean, that draft was loaded. But where would you rank yourself? Where would you consider yourself, not just in your draft class, but with all the receivers, the Tyreeks, the Devontae Adams, all those guys. Where's Brandon Ayuk in that conversation?

I'm going to say it like this. I don't even want to get too much into ranking and this and that. But I'll say this. The one thing that we could go up based off of that's not going to tell us no no peers it don't have it's not it's not leading any direction is the tape cut the tape on for 22 weeks of football nobody else can't say they played 22 some weeks of football they can't they can't whoever anybody would you just name they can't say they've been a three nsd champions championship game they can't say they've been a you know what i'm saying like Everybody's doing all this, but

it's something else. We already passed yards. Of course, we're going to get yards and touchdowns. Can't nobody stick us. That's the reason why you're bringing us up. What else are we going to bring? Where else are we going to take it to? We talk about packing

homes every single day because nobody can't do that. nobody can't do that. Nobody doing that. What are we chasing? Here where we was at just that, we feel like I just seen somebody comment say, Purdy Post have two championships. I mean, of course, they can say Post have. But I read that and I saw that and I said, we could be sitting here right now with two,

with two championships. So that's the only thing I'm on. I'm worried about championships right now. I'm championships, championships, championships. I ain't trying to get into who's number one and two and three and four and five.

Number one, have you been to the playoffs? Have you been to a Superbowl? Have you been? No. So I'm not even going championships. There's a photo of Mike Tomlin. You are split.

I think you retweeted it. Mike Tomlin, you're like, hey, you tweeted a picture of you and Mike. Say, hey, they say we're twins. What do you think? How surprised are you that that photo has garnered the attention that it has? Y'all do kind of look like twins, Brandon. No, you crazy. Or your uncles or something.

That's crazy. But, um, you like my dog, my dog Bo, my dog Bo from South Carolina. You look like him, but, uh, no, no. I mean, that piece, I mean, that piece, it was funny. I had seen it, like, right after the Super Bowl. You know, they trying to kick you

while you're already down. So, I'm like, alright, it's cool. Y'all get it. Y'all can get at me. Y'all get at me. It's all good. I'll take it oh because you know and i'll talk i've been talking shit they got they got it so then they got me again but it was cool i just said i just brought it back full circle because uh i felt like i was waking up like this this uh like every day every day while you under uh negotiate negotiating or whatever you want to call it, contract talks, every day is like a different day. So it's just like, so I had woke up. So I was like, you know what?

Like, I keep bringing up my birthday. I said, you know what? I'm not going to say nothing. I'm just going to leave my agent alone. I ain't going to do nothing. I'm just going to wait until after my birthday. And then I'm going to try to put a little bit more pressure on them. So I get there.

I wake up. I wake up right after I wake up and they talking about another team again, they talking about another team that they got me supposed to be in the trade talks or whatever, whatever, whatever. So I said, hey, let me just go ahead and let me just, if we want to make, if everybody's saying this and this and that, let me go ahead and I'll just go, let me just put out one of my little spots that I, you know, and I'll revert back to Tom and we can have a little bit of fun with it. It's all in fun, it's all in fun. Like I have a little bit of fun with it. It's all in fun. It's all in fun. Like I said, we're professionals, but

it is what it is, man. But that's where the Tomlin's Day came from. I didn't know you from South Carolina. What part of Carolina are you from? No, I'm talking about my dog. I said, you look like my dog, Bo, from South Carolina. My dog, my dog. Oh, your ho- Yeah, yeah, my dog, uh, my dog,

Deebo. Oh, Deebobo oh debo okay my bad i was like damn i didn't know i thought you was from like cali or something no i'm from reno nevada reno nevada yes sir oh the biggest little city in the you've been over there i have not been over there but i heard about it no i haven't been to reno okay hey bro, bro. So anything else you want to share? Because listening from the outside, it sounds like you're kind of disappointed that the contract negotiations haven't gone as

smoothly as you anticipated considering you've been a model citizen inside the building. You've been a model citizen out on the field. You've been a model citizen outside the facility. Well, let me ask y'all do y'all know do y'all know like the timing the timing and everything that goes on when negotiation talks like like i i know i know one thing for the skill position if you're not a quarterback we got to

fight tooth and nail so this is what we all have to go through we all have to go through this and it would all it would always be like this no matter what, but you are handling it the right way because the market is the market. Your resume is your resume. Your value is your value. Ray Charles can see what you can do. Other teams can also see what you could do. So they can play a game that they want to. If they don't want to give you what you deserve, and I know what you deserve, other teams will give you what you deserve and they're gonna overpay for it if they let you walk out that door so either way it go either way you cut it it's a win-win for you no matter what based on your resume i'm sorry so for you for you you should be smiling every goddamn day no matter what because you're gonna be good yeah i get your frustration brandon because had you not

performed like you have they would have done traded you or released you. So now I overperform. Now compensate me for the work that I've done. I've had a couple of these, Brandon, early in my career. I held I ended up having to hold out for two weeks. My my my my third contract, not my fourth contract. I signed it the day before the day of I signed it the day of training camp. The day of training camp. And then they didn't re-sign me. I go to Baltimore, win a championship, go to the Pro Bowl.

They released me. I go back to Denver. So I'll tell you like this. The best thing you can do is to keep your emotions in check. Don't get too high. Don't get too low because I know you're staying in constant contact with your representative. He's

doing as good a job as he possibly can to keep you in the right frame of mind. Contracts talks are going well. They have a new, he probably haven't told you, but I think there's a number that the 49ers have in mind. You they have a, you, he probably haven't told you, but I think there's a number that, that, uh, the 49ers have in mind. You kind of want to go over that number.

And I believe you've earned the right to go over that number based on what you've done based on how you wait, based on what you're going to do, what you're going to do. And that's the frustrating part. I look, I've been a player and I understand the business aspect from a team, but I believe you should reward your players. look, I've been a player and I understand the business aspect from a team, but

I believe you should reward your players for what they've done and what you believe they can do. Now, if they don't thank you, it's like, well, you know what? This was an isolated incident. They know what's going on. Come on now. Exactly.

They know what's going on. I know what's going on. Like I said, it's not easy. It's business know what's going on it's all right like i said it's it's it's not easy it's not it's business it's business and it's multiple people involved in in business and we all try to get to one thing but like i said they're gonna do it with me or without me you're gonna have a better chance with me we just leave it at that we just leave it at that i like it control what you can control, which is your frame of mind and the work that you put in

to be ready to go wherever that may be. I know I'm going to be ready. I know I'm going to be ready. I know I'm going to be ready. Come on now. I know I'm going to be ready. Come on now.

Brandon, I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What about our one-on-ones?

We can one-on-one hoop. We can one-on-one hoop. We can one-on-one hoop. No, I play DB, though. You don't play DB. You don't play DB. What you talking about? I was...

Wait, wait. Brandon, I was drafted as a DB, and they switched me to receiver because the DB room was full. I was a DB, too. And I play in and out multi-receiver because I need the pill in my full. I was a DB too. And then I moved to receiver because I need the pill in my hands. No. So you want to play basketball one-on-one? I'd rather hoop.

I'd rather hoop than do like that, man. But you're going to lose that. I just got some new hoop shoes. I just grabbed some AE1. I'm trying to jump out the gym too. So I'm about to go hoop.

Alright, Bet. That's going to be my first content for TikTok. Me beating you in basketball. Yes, sir. Brandon, when he said he was drafted, that means he was running behind someone. He was drafting up them, you know, to try to get, you know, he didn't want to exert that much energy. He was not drafted in no DB.

But I want to take time out right now. Thank you for joining us on Nightcap. We really appreciate you giving us some of your time, offering insight to your game, what transpired during the season, the Super Bowl, and best of luck on this contract, bro. Well-deserved. Well-deserved. Whatever you get, you deserve it. You've earned it.

Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Appreciate you having me on here. Anytime, bro. You're welcome to come back anytime. I watch it in my cave all the time, so I was honored to pull up and talk to y'all. Chad, it's my first time talking to Chad. Chad. Oto. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. Yo. Alright, baby. I love you, man. Kelsey Mack, his favorite uncle said, what's up? For sure. Will do. Will do. Alright. Appreciate that, Brandon. Thank you, man. Y'all be easy. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,

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that game. That's for perpetuity. Everybody's going to look back, and unfortunately there's a winner and there's a loser. And you always want to be in the winning side because when that confetti comes down and it's not in your colors... See,

people say, and I quoted this, losing, I believe losing is worse than dying because when you lose a game, you got to wake up tomorrow. When you die, there is no tomorrow. You can feel the pain. You feel the the hurt

of losing that game the man said hey i was a zombie and it wasn't until i went to cabo for my birthday last week the reset the reset mental the super bowl was six seven weeks ago and it's still in his mind right Right. The opportunity. That's crazy. Wasted opportunity. You're thinking, how many more opportunities am I going to get? When you hear somebody say,

you don't know if and when. Because the one thing, I remember when I was at Baltimore and we played the Super Bowl, Ocho, and Brian asked me to say something for the team, because I was one of the few guys that had won a championship kind of knew what it took and I asked him to cut the lights on I said look around look to your left look to your right

I say because this room will never be this way again everybody that's in this room right now won't be here next year all these coaches won't be here next year. And you may never, ever get this opportunity again. Don't. Man, I wish I had. Man, I wish I would have. Leave no doubt. Leave no doubt. This is the moment that you dreamed about,

that you watched on television. You watched the Jerry Rices. You watched the Emmitt Smith. You watched the Emmitt Smith. You watched those guys. The adulation and the joy of winning this game. You'll

be the first in Ravens history. You'll never, ever be forgotten because you were the first. They might win two, three. They might win ten. But there's something about that first. Damn, I'm mad, man. Well, you got me hyped.

Boy, I wish I could get out there and play, man. Man, hey. Yeah. But I love his mindset. I love the way he thinks. Now, see, that's the guy I want to play. You see? But you see what i think what i tell

you joe that 49 style offense i played for kyle shanahan's dad kyle shanahan is just like his dad they you block they reward you yeah they reward but you can't you can't have a run game without receivers knocking dbs and knocking people off from down the field. So those five and 10 yard runs, they turn into 30 and 40 and 50 yard touchdown. So I love, I appreciate that, Brandon. Thanks for some of the time

for you coming on, but I love that. That was dope. Ocho. That was dope. There are people have a lot, still, we're still in, people have a lot of comments

about Caleb Williams after revealed painting nails on a peak. Caleb. Caleb Williams was in the building to show Juju watkins uh lady trojans his support people immediately commented on his nails and his cell phone which is pink well caleb had a message for them today let's take a listen to what caleb had to say nails are clear yeah lips lips are pink Your girl love them. But they on the man by the pink phone case.

He had his nails painted. Women. You know what? The pink. I mean, whatever with the pink. The whole nail painted. Hell, I got them. I would paint my nails black back in

2002. Look, I got them. I would, I would paint my nails black back in 2002 with my, with my little Gothic. Look, anytime, anytime we had a game, right. It's so funny. I would,

I was in my little Gothic era. You know, I would love emo, right. Right. Got goth. It was goth. Hey,

I had a black chin strap, right? Black chin strap, black piece, black gloves. And I would paint my nails black and I would go out there on some more, on some, on some other SHIAT.

I heard I can't curse because I don't feel like I can't find. Why you put the A in it? I said S S-H-I-T. No, you said S-H-A-I-T. Oh yeah, SHIAT. You got to say it right.

You got to carry it. SHIAT. The A is silent. like all them damn words you've been giving me wouldn't be spelling okay go ahead go ahead yeah

but I mean I mean listen man that's the era that's the times that we in right now man you know I don't mean nothing

man you know Ocho you got NBA players doing that you got Caleb Williams doing that I mean you got my weird

my weird crazy A-double-S, double-S doing that way back 20 years ago. Can I ask you a question on that? Yes, sir. When did men start caring about how men dress, what they wore,

the pink nails, the pink phone? When did men become so obsessed with other men? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know because I don't really talk about nobody, especially when it comes to attire or someone's appearance.

So did you pay for that outfit? Nah. They don't even know Caleb Williams. And you know what they're getting at. You know what they're trying to insinuate, Ocho. Right, right, right, right, right. But see, that's in our community. Because here's the thing, Ocho.

Let's have a little history lesson. We know since the beginning of the time, Black men have been deemed extremely masculine of any race of people. Extremely machismo, macho. Biggest, they would have the biggest sometime would sleep with because they wanted big offspring. And so what we've tried to do

in order to emasculate you insinuate or even flat out call you they know referring to a straight man is a derogatory term i don't care how accepting it is being gay queer lb LBGTQ, trans. It does not matter. A straight man will never, ever accept being called gay, queer, zesty, fruity, whatever, as a compliment. So this notion, that means you've made it. That means you've ascended to the highest. A straight man is not going to accept that. He's not. Right. But then what you have to understand also on what you have to understand is you can do certain things in today's society, in today's era that aren't masculine, but aren't seen as masculine and anything outside of the norm on what we're used to seeing from straight masculine men.

Then you're considered just that the opposite of what a straight man would actually do yeah and sometimes everybody is free to do as they please now no we got times a little different see that's what social media comes in because yeah times are a little different people a little bit more eccentric a lot people are a little bit more more open to expression a little bit more, more open to expression, artistic expression, you know, whatever you might want to call it.

I don't know how to word it the right way. And I mean, it is what it is. Hell, I did it 20 goddamn years ago. And well, nobody said nothing

because I was just, I was a weirdo anyway. And I did all type of crazy. I had blonde, blonde mohawk, mouth full of golds, my nails painted black. I mean,

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't care shit i wouldn't but it's just for certain other people that it might affect or it might bother i mean they say it because they're not used to seeing the individual do those but when you go back and listen to these great fashion you look at you listen to the carl lagerfeld or the uh uh um um who leon Talley and you listen to people that the Tom Ford and the people that's been in

fashion, they say fashion is an expression of oneself. Not conforming to the norm where all men and y'all should dress like this if you're straight. All men if you're gay should dress like this. All women if you're this, you do this. I thought it was self-expression.

Now it's gotten to the point that they want you to conform to the masses of what they deem is acceptable. How do you get to determine what's acceptable for someone else? Your norm is not someone else's

norm. So why do you... It seems like to me, all these men that be saying all this stuff, it seems like y' saying all this stuff it seems like y'all cast it it seems like y'all have something you know what one of the one of the best feelings is in being free is when you're free from having to be normal when you're free and being able to express yourself however you feel when you don't work we don't worry or care about how others think but there are so many that are stuck in that box that want to walk that straight line

and not veering outside of that box or outside of that lane where they just look like everybody else. Everybody wearing the same outfit. Everybody wearing the same clothes. Everybody got the same chain. Everybody got the same goddamn car. And it's just, I think you won't,

you will never understand or free yourself from the shackles of the rest of the crowd until you figure out a lane for yourself find your own niche and do what makes you happy or what you like to do but everybody want to okay whatever's in okay i'm gonna do what everybody else is all you all they have all it takes is one person to say something on twitter or social media and guess what the next The next day, somebody, yep. I was thinking the same thing. Yep, you right.

You right. And then boom, boom, boom, boom. And next thing you know, it's trending or it's not. Yeah, they're going to piggyback. But that's what you got to have that. You got to have that ultra mentality. You got to have that ultra mindset. Man, you know, I don't give two, two S-H-I-A-T. Yeah, you know, I don't give two two shi at yeah you know i don't care i don't

care what you're saying i at all i i i love it i've always loved it you got to think i mean you were part of me you you were with the media when i was playing uh yeah you well you remember how y'all how they used to kill me i talked about i talked about people play if you play good I say I talk good you play bad I talk bad wait you know what if you have you talk about my play

you was always talking good about me then that's all I'm talking about no obviously if you yeah but you know you know what I mean they found any they all they would

nitpick and they would fire any little thing and I loved it I enjoyed being the villain I embraced it I was very passionate about it I didn't want you to like me even if it was personal skip oh skip oh boy being the villain. I embraced it. I was very passionate about it. I didn't want you to like me.

Even if it was personal. Skip. Oh, Skip. Oh, boy. He used to beat you up? Oh, what? I loved it. I loved it. I just, I embraced it. I enjoyed it. And it just, I don't know. It's just weird how people allow words

or things people say bother them. It's supposed to be like water off a duck's back in one ear and out the other. It shouldn't affect you at all. It just shouldn't. It shouldn't. How does someone's words really bother you? Like, think about it. How can what somebody's saying on Twitter that you don't't know a stranger that ain't feeding you the

three F's I'm not even gonna say the three F's because I'm trying not to curse tonight how does that bother you so I it never understood me when people oh my god they're they're um they're bullying me bitch what oh shit I mean bully what how It's the internet. Log the fuck off. Like, I don't know, man. Yeah, it took me Ocho being out and when I'm in this type setting where I'm doing stuff for La Portia or I'm going to speaking engagements

and I see the love and I see women and I see men so excited that they're trembling to have a conversation. They're like, I just want to, I just want. And to hear people say, bro, let me tell you what I love about you. He said, I love the candidness in which you speak. He said, I love the way you rock with your community.

And I love how you talk about your family. And to hear people in all different races come up to me and say, I love everything that is about you. I love the man that you are. I love the way you carry yourself. I love how you talk about your kids and your family. I love how, you know, you talk about team, man. Oh, Joe, man. I say, you know what? And by the way, you know what my sister told my sister, you tell me, I think about seven years ago. Talk about Shannon. Get some bigger clothes.

Now, you know, hey, everybody know, everybody know how I love my sister. I talk about my sister. Damn. In the same breath. I talk about my grandma. Right, right. No. No. No.

No can do. Listen, people need to understand, Unc, you have a... You like a European style, a European style whether it's casual or whether it's business. And you stick to that. And you've always stuck to that.

If it's what I want to change, I'm that and you if it were to change that's I will change because I want to change but they go be no time right now y'all they buy no clothes y'all don't tell me what to wear how to dress cuz I ain't listening yeah hey and you know it and today and and actually we know it fast you know fashion yes every year you know now we now we back to fashion, you know, fashion changes every few years. You know, now we back to the baggy look that we wore back in 05. Back in 05. I thought about, you know what? I saw, hold on, who I saw?

I saw LeBron one time, but I see that a lot lately. But they get the pants, they're a little fitted, and then they got the wide, they got the flare legs at the bottom. Yeah, like the 70s, yeah. That was when I was a kid. You know who be killing it? I mean, they be dressing. Like, you know, I'm not into fashion. I'm a cheap, I'm a cheap mofo.

Got them young bull from OKC. OKC. Oh, Shea Gildress. Yeah. Oh, man, listen, boy, young bull be killing it. Them boys be on it. Young bull be killing it. And what's the other one from the Jazz?

I think he wear double zero or he wear zero from the jazz. Oh, Jordan Clarkson. Hey, boy them two there. See Ocho, when you. But when it come to fashion, you know, I ain't really, I ain't no fashion here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I every once, once every

six months, I put some clothes on, but them two there. Boy them boys be on it. Oh, they be on it. Man, you know, Ochoa, but when you thin like that, you can wear a lot of stuff, man, because them jokers thin. I can't buy nothing off the rack. I ain't going to get nothing but the clothes hanging out of the department store. That's the only

thing I can get off the department store. Right, right. So, I've got to relegated to have leisure or custom right right damn aren't you all you should got to be custom yeah like my my stuff that i wear on on on first take every jacket every shirt is custom yeah yeah okay my slacks custom now jeans i can get like a a size 38 jean and have the waist taken in right but i gotta go three you know three four sizes up as far as in my waist and just so my legs will fit yeah but uh but i got i got i got i got one for you now i don't i don't know i don't

know you shop i don't know if you do this but i'm telling you where i get my jeans from i get my jeans from target you know my jeans from Target. You know about Goodfellas & Company? No, I never heard of them. Man, listen, I get my jeans from Target, Goodfellas & Company. Now, there was a time

where you could get skinny jeans, you could get slim fit, or you can get wide leg. And so what I used to do when the time, you know, there was a time where everybody had skinny jeans and they had the knees cut out

and it looked like they went distressed a little bit. But hell, I wasn't paying no $1,800, $1,300 for some of them jeans they had. Yeah, Chrome Hearts. Come here, come here, come here. I went to Target and got me some of the Goodfella jeans

and cut the knees out and cut the knees out and make it look like they were distressed. Made them look like they was a Mary's, but it was really Goodfella feeling company. I paid $20 for. Yeah. Look at these two. Hey, what's up? Say what's up, Don?

What's up, Don? Say what's up, Unc? Say what's up, Unc? What's up, Unc? How you got girls doing? Good? What y'all doing up this time of night it's way past y'all bedtime oh oh we we on spring break stay up all night i'm doing school and tomorrow tomorrow i have school but i'm not going to school so i'm so i'm wait you could yo no you can't snitch on yourself

you did snitch you're not supposed to say you don't have school i just, you can't snitch on yourself. You did snitch. You're not supposed to say you don't have school. I just said you're on spring break and you ain't on spring break. We on spring break, man. She don't know no better. This is Cha-Cha and Kennedy. Okay. All right. I got to finish the show.

Kisses Alright I love you too Yeah that's That's two That's Baby Kennedy And her sister Cha Cha That's two of the 85 Of my tribe

That's two of the 85 clan Yeah that's two of the 85 And I'm I'm looking to I'm looking to add to that For any fathers out there Yeah, that's that's two at eighty five. And I'm I'm looking to I'm looking to add to that. But any fathers out there. The volume.

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