Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Broncos BEATDOWN Chad's Bengals + Tyreek Hill KNEE INJURY in Dolphins Win + Unc & Ocho have HEATED debate about AJ Browns PRODUCTION
Episode Date: September 30, 2025Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Denver Broncos beating the Cincinnati Bengals, Tyreek Hill suffers a knee injury as the Miami Dolphins beat the New York Jets, an...d Nick Sirianni responds to AJ Browns cryptic tweet and much more! 03:40 - Broncos beat Bengals25:05 - Dolphins beat Jets36:15 - Nick Sirianni responds to A.J. Brown’s cryptic tweet54:15 - Ashton Jeanty goes back to original stance (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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He's from Liberty City, although he doesn't want to claim his team that just got the brakes beat off him.
uh jemar chase did not play tonight neither the t higgins so it's understandable why they lost
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but the game you just watched,
and I'm sure you guys thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did.
Bo Nix looked like Peyton Manning.
29 and 42, 32, 326 yards.
Two touchdown did throw a bad interception,
but you know what?
We can live with that.
J.K. Dobbins, the Broncos had not had a 100-yard rusher
in the last two and a half years.
Guess where they got tonight?
Yeah, what they got?
Whoa, whoa, please.
I'm asking you, Mr.
I'm, please.
J.K. Dobbins had 16 carries for 101 yards.
Harvey had 14 carries for 58 yards.
Marvin Mims had a 16-yard run
that resulted in a touchdown.
Let me give you Mr. Browning's numbers.
The guy that's never lost on a Monday night, chat.
He was 14 of 25, 125 yards.
They had 53 yards rushing.
They did not have 200 yards, ladies and gentlemen, 200.
T. Higgins was their leading receiver.
He had three catches for a measly, peaslee, 32 yards.
32 yards.
Bronco country, stand up.
28 to 3 was the final score.
They scored first and didn't sniff the end zone again.
Man, did y'all see a Trey Hendrick's a little over that sucky there?
Boy, that mind how I had it.
Oh, Cho, you got that permission slip?
Yeah, I got it.
I got it.
If your team did not score a touchdown,
I don't want to hear you say foot or ball for at least a week.
You say oblong oblet.
You say, as a matter of fact, you can say pig skin,
but you are not allowed to say foot or ball.
Okay, go ahead.
Hey, listen, for one, if you're a Broncos fan in the chat,
and this goes for all the people in the chat,
all y'all laughing and giggling and ha, ha, ha, and he he and the fact
that y'all are even happy about this win,
a Joe Burrell is Bengals.
You happy about that?
Who are Joe Burles bangles, and you win?
We got a backup quarterback who couldn't do must-a-night.
He got an officer line who got them holding the goddamn ass off.
We got pre-snap penalties up the ass, up the yin-yang.
We can't do nothing on offense.
We got the best duo of receivers in the goddamn NFL,
and we can't get him the goddamn ball.
And then you come here and you're happy to my,
I can't say, foot or ball, and you're giggling.
You got your roll ball.
I'm scared.
I just wanted to know, Chad, I'm scared.
I'm scared.
I'm calling 911.
This man is threatening me.
He's hostile.
Chad, you see the hostility in his voice.
I'm calling.
I'm afraid.
Hello.
I'm afraid.
Listen, I'm just asking, how are you even happy about this?
Listen, I knew what the outcome would be.
You knew what the outcome would be.
Anybody with common sense or any football knowledge knew what the outcome would be.
That is what you said.
Wait a minute.
I know it not what I said.
Sometimes you haven't been in a relationship on?
Hold on, listen to me, chat.
Y'all stay with me now.
You ever been a relationship?
And a woman tell you something that she really don't mean,
and you don't find out later until y'all break up.
She didn't really mean it.
I didn't really mean we was going to win.
Yes, she did.
Hold on, matter of fact, you know what?
Hold on.
I ain't got time for this shit.
Hold on.
I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you one thing.
I'm going to tell you what.
I tell you what.
I'm going to support my team through thick and thin.
I'm like, I'm not like these.
I'm glad you wearing that jersey
because that's the only time they saw it tonight is right on you.
Hey, listen.
I'm glad they get an opportunity to see it right now.
I'm glad they got an opportunity to see it right now.
I'm, I'm, I'm glad.
I'm trying to understand.
Are you really happy with this victory?
We have a Joe Burrelless bangles.
We couldn't do nothing offensively.
Hey, and Opie deed him up.
Did you see Riley Moss opi pooping on him?
Oh, who?
Riley boss pooping on him.
Yeah, all right.
Riley, ball.
Number 21, the one that's opposite.
He pooping on them.
Hold on.
I got a swore.
I seen, I seen T.
Higgins head tapping real quick.
What you're talking about?
It was a holding call.
They got called back.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The whole and call, we got called back.
Ocho, I'm just saying, Opie, I mean, all I know is back in our time,
we saw a guy that didn't have the same melanin as us trying to D up.
It was curtains.
Opie out there doing the do on him.
Got it right on Mayberry.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Listen, I'm glad you're happy because that's about the only win y'all probably going to get.
Listen, at least my team, at least we got an excuse.
Our quarterback is gone.
I don't know.
Our quarterback is gone.
It ain't my fault.
Do y'all hear this man?
What does that sound like to me?
We had so many pre-snap penalties.
We had so many penalties on defense.
Like, I mean, we couldn't do nothing.
We couldn't do nothing.
Couldn't do nothing.
As a matter of fact, you couldn't do nothing.
You shouldn't say nothing.
you ain't going to be nothing.
So I don't want to hear nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't make me raise up, oh, Joe.
It's all good.
It's going to be trouble.
Trouble.
It's all good.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
Listen, no, no disrespect to the Browning, no disrespect to him.
But we need to get a quarterback in now.
Wow.
We need to bring somebody in.
Listen, we need to bring somebody in that's out of it.
Why are you being like this?
I'm not.
I'm just saying somebody that can run an offense and give us the opportunities.
We got balls sailing all out of bounds.
We got to give our player the chance.
If you know we down the quarterback, you have to make every goddamn play count.
Every player has to count.
The officer line has to understand that.
You got to give us the chance to win.
You don't got the hole.
You don't have to hold.
You got the hole if you can't block.
Slash your feet.
Use your hands.
Use your technique.
I don't know what we're doing.
We had a whole offensive series eliminated by three hold calls in a row.
Your technique is holding.
What part about that didn't you get?
Okay.
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You know what?
Y'all some sauce.
Y'all some sloaf, y'all stir fry,
y'all cheeks, y'all buns, y'all booty, y'all sack.
I mean, what a hell?
Hey, chat, did I leave out of anything?
Hey, is there any other derogatory term that I can use to describe them without saying actuality?
Listen, if anything, if you're a real football fan, there's no way you're happy about this win.
There's no way you're excited and you think this is good.
No, no, not at all.
No, it's like, it's like a lion being handicapped and having two legs and you being happy about defeating him.
Nah, man.
Hey, he's still a liar.
All I'm going to tell you, hey, if they didn't see it, I'm not.
whipped the lion. Man, the lion only
have no, he had no fangs or no
claws. He's still a lion. All
I know is this here. Chat, is there
any other words I could use to describe
them? In the words of Cam Ward,
they are, they sauce,
they stir fry,
they cheeks, they buns,
they booty, they sacks.
What else, chat? What did I miss, chat? Tell me what I
miss? What's another word?
Y'all, they what the elephant left on the showground.
You know what the elephant left, when the
circus leave time you know what's on the showground y'all ain't that i know you're not happy about
it's embarrassing i know i'm embarrassed for you you got us oh cho you y'all know y'all've gotten out
scored 55 to 6 in the first half you got beat 48 10 i told you we were going to put belt to you know
what we're going to put butts in you uh we don't have our quarterback we don't have a quarterback
you said that wasn't going to be a problem you said we got the best duo
We do have the best duo
I couldn't tell you
The best duo
Played for the Broncos
Sutton and Mims
You know
It might look that way
Because y'all have somebody
To give them the ball
I don't know
I don't know what y'all got
You might look that way
But it's cool
It's cool
I guarantee you some
I guarantee you some changes
I made this week
I guarantee
I guarantee you
I bet you somebody
Coming out of hell
I don't want
I know the same
cook so on a change is going to come but it ain't coming soon enough for y'all it's over hey listen
let me tell you how much i don't know let me tell you how much in order for us because let me let me
tell you something heads are going to roll people people will lose their job in order for us to be
able to at least compete compete how many points did we score tonight um not enough that's unacceptable
that's unacceptable that's unacceptable not enough hold on listen to me stay with me right real quick
to say that because we lose
one of the better quarterbacks in the league
that we can't even function
cannot
not be real, not be good and efficient
can't even function
with the backup quarterback
like that's bad
that's bad
that's bad that's bad
that you got to be able to function
and you got two of the best on the outside
oh man please
man please put me out there
put me at quarterback
The receivers look like you out there back.
They look like they were 47.
Had them locked up.
Riley Moss had the right side lockdown.
And Sir Tan, I don't even know why y'all even bother going to war, Certain.
You already know it's nothing.
Let me tell you something.
Listen to it, all we need, all we need is somebody with the confidence
to be able to want to pull the trigger and just not care.
What we need to do now, Burrell's not coming back to December.
If we don't turn.
It's over for y'all.
Why would you bring it back in December?
when y'all will be I lost 13 games how you know how you know
y'all live within no games let me relax relax first of all your defense your
defense was trash with Burrell so what that got to do with anything hey let me
let me tell you something I I believe in faith I have faith not the size of a
muster see in the booker in a in the New Testament in the New Testament is saying
In Jobs, verse 8, chapter 8, verse 5, ye who have little faith, do not cometh and become
anything.
Y'all should have no faith.
No, we're going to be all right.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
A quarterback will be in that.
I tried to tell you this when we got the diagnosis with Joe Burrell.
You said, Brian is going to be okay.
I say, no, you're not, because he's not good.
But you didn't want to listen to me.
O'Shea don't know what he's talking about
and you got to chat to side with you.
So now I get to sit here for the entire night
my team.
You feel good about that.
Hold on.
Your team lost last night and y'all had every,
y'all had every starter.
You had your quarterback.
I didn't have my quarterback.
At least I didn't have my quarterback so I don't feel that bad about losing.
What a man talking about something that happened 24 hours ago?
I said the same thing to happen to the Ravers
will befall your team tonight.
I try to tell you, I said, oh, Joe, don't rub it in the end.
I don't want to hear, oh, do me a favor.
I don't want to hear you say, but I said, oh, Joe, don't do that now.
Because you know you got to, hey, don't worry about me.
We got this.
Now look at you.
You talking about yesterday.
I'm talking about today.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Your team was at full strength.
My team is handicapped.
We don't have a quarterback.
So, listen, the fact that you're even happy about this win,
that lets me know you was nervous in the first place.
Because if it was me, I'd be like,
like you know what y'all are head quarterback i'm gonna give you some grace i'm gonna give you
know grace you know grace you all went that grace grace is a young lady's name grace is mentioned in the
bible i ain't nothing said that about shaman i ain't in there i will put it on you so with that being
said ocho ohcho you like how you like my chat y'all like my digs y'all like my robe look at my robe
i got a robe hey chat hey chat how y'all like my old school jersey
Jersey. My eight, they had a leaping tiger old school. Old school. Hey, hey, you know a Brock
out. Hey, this is the best receiving the game right here. This is the best receiving
I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell. Best receiving the game. Opie, Opie Taylor glued him down.
Glute down. Oh, do my uno? Yeah. Man, listen, man, you know when if you, if the quarterback
Catch it. Also, he had five catches for 23 yards. That's not even five yards a catch.
J.K. Dobbins averaged five yards a rush. Hey.
As a matter of fact, he averaged six yards, I care it. Six point four.
Hey, there's no way you happy. There's no way you happy by this win. And anybody in chat,
if you're a Broncos fan, are you happy about this win too?
Happy, elated, static. That's the shame on y'all. Yes. We can't cheer loud it up.
Why would you be happy about a team that's beat up with no quarterback?
That don't make no sense.
That don't make no sense.
That's like me going to play against high school kids.
And I bomb everybody.
I mean, hello?
Maybe when you were in the league, you ain't bombing nobody.
Sit down.
And what you should have did, they should have just forfeited the game.
You know what?
Say they had engine trouble to plane and not even come.
Why y'all come this far west to put on that type of performance?
you know they're going to flex y'all y'all y'all supposed to have a lot of a lot of monday night games
they're going they're going to flex y'all sunday night games y'all getting flexed now they're going to keep
them because people don't they not hey i'm telling you right now a new quarterback is going to be in there
because we have to be listen it's one thing to have joe burrow go down okay boom you have to have your
back of quarterback for the offense not to be run not to be able to be run in any type of fishing manner
They have holding a call after holding call, not be able to put the ball, get the ball to two of the better receiving duels in the league.
I mean, like, come on, man.
Ocho, your defense is bad.
Y'all had holding calls.
That offensive line hasn't been good since Joe Burrow's been there.
A lot of the reason Joe Burrow is hurt is because of that offensive line.
So I'm trying to figure out the quarterback that y'all can bring in that's going to be functional and can be operational behind.
one of the worst offensive lines in football.
I don't care the receivers you have.
As a matter of fact,
bring Jerry Rice back in his prime.
Bring Randy Moss in his prime.
With that offensive line and that quarterback,
they're going to look like just like what those guys look tonight.
You know that's the same offensive line that Joe Burrow had
when Jamar Chase had the true of crown last year, right?
And what,
and tell me the playoff.
How many playoff game did y'all win?
We're not talking about,
we're not talking about playing the quarterback in.
We're talking about bringing the quarterback in that can be efficient
so we can at least compete in these games.
So in other words, you want to compete as long as you lose,
you don't mind lose it as long as you're competing.
We got to compete.
You call like to compete night.
Hold on.
You call that compete?
Yep.
That's the best y'all can do.
Oh, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Oh, my God.
Hold on.
Yes.
Wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, here I come.
Yeah, they talk about my bankers.
You talk about my bankers? We're going to be all right.
Chat, y'all woulda, y'all want to see something?
You see a little couple of photos of your favorite up back of the day.
Yeah, let's talk, hey, hey, let's talk about my dolphins, though.
Let's talk about my dolphins.
Oh, Joe, we're talking about this game.
We're going to talk about the dolphins in a minute.
Yeah.
Hold on.
This man claiming the team, he ain't,
that he don't want to claim the Patriots.
He don't want to, now he want to move on.
Hey, well, we know what happened.
Let's talk about my dolphins, though.
Hold on, Ocho, let's free this, let's wrap up this game.
Hey, we wrapped it up already.
Y'all won.
Let's talk about them dolphins.
Oh, Ocho, this, these are the gloves, hey.
I don't know if you can see this,
but these are the gloves that I wore
when I broke the Tidin touchdown record.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's it right here.
Hey, Chad, you know, look at it.
Woo!
Why don't look like Numen's?
Them Numan's?
And them Nike's, or that's Reebok?
Right now, they didn't have a deal with Nike at the time.
So Nike wasn't the official gloves, so they had NFL equipment on them.
Okay.
But it don't matter what it was.
Yeah.
I could have had some workbook construction gloves on.
I can grab it.
Okay.
Yeah.
But the Broncos dominate the, uh, the assistant.
Cincinnati Bengals.
By the score of 28 to 3,
the game really wasn't that close chat.
I know if you guys watched this game,
I know you was very disappointed in the performance
because Bengals put on display.
That's two weeks in a row.
They've been some butt, cheeks, booty,
any of the other thing that you want to say,
weak sauce, you know what I'm saying?
And the words of my good friend, Cam Ward,
they were, hmm.
But the Broncos moved to two and two.
and the Bengals are now two and two,
about to be two and three,
when the Lions put belt
the you know what next week.
I'm going to be at that game.
It don't matter.
Let me tell you something.
I'm going to be at that game.
I'm going to get a team of Pepto.
I'm going to be at that game
and I'll get a team of Pepto.
I'm not sure.
Listen, I'm not sure if Browning
would be the quarterback next week.
I'm just saying for us,
for us to be able to compete,
just compete, be able to.
to run the offense, you know, put together a string of drives, just stuff like, just something
positive.
There's nothing to build off.
There's anything.
There's nothing good to take away from this game.
Oh, Joe, you like my robe?
What?
I can get you one.
Who?
I can get you a robe.
No, that's ugly.
I don't like that.
Y'all orange.
You do realize the Bengals are orange also, right?
Yeah, yeah, but not that, not that orange.
I'll tell you what y'all love is not either, winning.
not winning.
Hey, it's all good.
Let me ask you this.
Would you like Russell Wilson?
Should they trade for Russell?
Yeah, Russell or James, either one.
Russell or James.
You know, the way James sling that thing and don't care,
he down there, he down there somewhere, just let it go.
Ocho, hold on, let me see.
Let me look at these stats.
oh my gosh what oh my goodness wow horrible y'all was two of eleven on third down y'all ran 43 plays
you see what i mean 43 y'all had less than 160 yards of total offense y'all had 10 total drives
10 hey now you see what i mean you practice you get
to work at 9 o'clock in the morning on Wednesday.
You leave work after practice, go through meetings,
watch film, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Saturday you got walkthrough.
Saturday, you get on the plane, fly way to mile high,
and you put up 160 yards of offense
after working all week long.
Hold on.
Let me get this straight.
I'll make sure you heard you're straight.
You say y'all practice?
Not yet.
Wednesday.
Oh.
We get to the stadium 9 o'clock.
Y'all did that in practice?
I think y'all could have did that without practicing.
You see what I mean?
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's why one change needs to be made.
One change.
One change can do wonders.
Move the Bengals out of Cincinnati.
We're good.
We're good.
We're good.
Talk about them dolphins, though.
We're pretty good to the Dolphins.
That's not your team, though.
I mean, we've been on one game for the past 30 minutes.
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Pigskin.
Let's talk about the other Pigskin game.
Okay, I told you case they gave.
Oh, the Miami Dolphins win, but they lost.
In winning 27 to 21 over the New York Jets,
they lost Tyreek Hill to what looks like a potential
season ending injury, but they did win the game
by the score of 2721.
They move, they get off the snide.
Now they're one and three.
Yeah.
Toa, 17 of 25,
177 yards, two touchdowns to Darren Waller.
Yeah.
Devon A. Chan had 20 carries, 99 yards.
He had a rush touchdown.
Justin Fields played well, but he turned the ball over.
20 of 27, 226 yards, one touchdowns.
They ran the ball for almost 200 yards,
but they were undone by three, very costly fumbles.
And that was the difference in the ball.
game. They're getting ready to go in for a touchdown, and the DB makes a great punch
out, and they boom. That was Mika. Minka did that. Yes. Ocho, we'll talk about, we'll get back
to this game, Tyreek. Yeah. He landed in his leg bent awkwardly after being tackled by Malacom
Moore along the sideline. He was carted off with an aircast and waved to the crowd. I mean,
I don't really know what to make up his emotion. Maybe he would, uh,
not wanted I've never seen anybody seem to be happy that they were injured I don't I
don't want to read too much into it but I I think for me Ocho I don't I think I don't
think you've ever seen that type of reaction going off the field but let's just
in thought less than hopefully everything because it's being reported Ocho he went
he went to the hospital yeah so I don't know anything I haven't got any reports I
don't know if you know anything you're down there if you heard anything but it doesn't
it didn't look good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, as far as his reaction goes,
that's one of those,
God damn, if it's not one thing or another.
And of course, because the cameras,
because everyone can see you,
you have to put on that face, that smile,
obviously, because, I mean, like, God, damn.
But the first thing he says when he got on the car,
you can see his expression,
he was like, God, damn.
And he just, he got that smile on his face like,
you know, I'm going through this, I'm going through that, you know, I'm trying to get
my season turn around, and then here we go with this bull drive happened to me.
I mean, it's unfortunate, and I wish my dog, I wish my dog, well, I'm hoping it's not serious,
being that they had to card him off and they had to put an air cast, it got, it's serious.
Yeah, they don't, they don't aircast for no reason.
Matter of fact.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Finish up.
I'm going to text.
The Jets had 23 first down.
The Dolphins had 19.
Third down efficiency.
The Jets was 4 of 9.
Dolphins was 4 of 12.
The Jets had 400 yards of offense.
Dolphins had 300 yards of offense.
The Jets had 13 penalties for 101 yards.
And they had three turnovers.
That's how they lost the game.
Yeah, it took the total of them.
I think, you know who else I think hurt they need to?
Who there?
Oh, the Jets running back?
Yeah.
Yeah, he ran the darkness.
He ran right into the back of his own guy,
and then the guy came and, yeah.
I hate when players do that, huh?
Because, listen, I'm not even going to mention what we talked about last night
when I talk about playing on grass.
Mm-hmm.
And as you see, there were some injuries today on grass.
But that's here, no there.
But God damn, man.
All right, I text, Tyree.
I'm waiting on the text back.
Yeah, it's just, the Jets are going to have to be,
just going to need to get out of their way, chat.
They keep beating themselves.
They fumble the ball.
They had a great situation, and then they fumbled the ball,
and they gave, who they played Pittsburgh?
They had Pittsburgh on the rope, and they fumbled a ball,
and Pittsburgh gets momentum.
them. They're going in for a touchdown to take the lead. They punch that out. Justin Fields
fumbled. They lose that. The other guy fumbled and they lose that. You bad teams find ways to
lose good teams find ways to win. This is right now they're going to need they need to get out of
their own way. Justin Fields played. He threw the ball really well. Have a heck of a run. How he got
out of there and turned that into a 43 yard touchdown. I don't know. But only a handful of guys
have ever been in the league that's been able to do that and he just so happens to be one of them um
they ran the ball 28 rushes 197 yards uh Justin fields 20 of 27 226 yards but three
turnovers and 10 plus penalties that's how you lose the ball game that's how they lost the game
um that you got to you got to be better than that oh joe i mean i i i
really don't know what to say, I feel bad for AG.
Yeah. But guys got to take care of the football. You got to find a way you got to win
a game to get to get your confidence back. Because right now, it's, we're close. And you know,
I'm saying, hey, guys, we're right there. We're close. And they are very. But the problem that
you're having is that you're not good enough to overcome the mistakes that you're making.
You're not good enough to overcome the penalties that you're created. So when you turn the ball over and you
have, and you have mistakes as far as pre-staff and post-staff penalties, they're not good
enough to overcome that. As a matter of fact, there isn't a team good enough to overcome the
mistakes that the Jets, the Jets had tonight and the, uh, uh, the penalties. There's no team
constructed that's good enough to overcome that. Yeah. You pay, you pay double for them goddamn
turnovers, now.
Hey, um, I got a question. Yeah.
And everybody in the chat that was laughing,
while y'all was he-heeing and ha-ha-ha-ha
because my bank was lost minus a Joe Burrow.
And yes, we couldn't move the ball.
We weren't efficient.
Off the line looked like they were inept.
But all you Bronco fans in the chat,
who y'all play next week?
Who y'all play?
Huh?
The Eagles.
The who?
We talk about this week.
We get 24 hours to celebrate.
Who y'all play next week?
uh we play the lions i'm gonna be at the game that y'all aren't winning
i tell you what y'all ain't winning either i bet that so we both gonna be on the show
and neither one that's gonna be able to say foot or ball you all you ain't gonna bet nothing
who won't bet you oh i what you want to do throw it on the floor i'll pick it up
mm-mm-mm-mm nope nope bet some man i bronco look good tonight oh okay here you go
You think they look good because you're playing against a depleted Bengals team?
I'm playing against a Bengals team.
No, you're playing against a depleted, an injury-stricken Bengals team.
How about you judge your Broncos off how they look against a team like the Eagles?
Do that.
Do that.
That's what you judge them.
Judge him off the next week game.
Judge him off the next week game.
What's the hospitality for it?
Make sure you keep the same energy.
Make sure you keep the same.
I'm your partner.
I know.
I know what you're just saying.
I mean, you're hostile.
I'm not hostile.
I'm just saying my voice is a little rasty.
My voice a little rasty, but I'm just saying, y'all, y'all are all excited.
Oh, we beat the Bengals, 28 to 3, and, I mean, that ain't nothing to be proud of.
That ain't a lot to be proud of.
That ain't a lot to be proud of it's not.
I mean, Coach, y'all only scored 13 points in the last two games.
Y'all scored 13 points more than a, uh, uh, uh, uh, um,
Me, Ash, and Jordan.
Okay.
Okay.
Man.
All right.
I shall hope it's going to get better for y'all.
Tyreek have 11,363 receiver yards since entering the NFL in 2017.
That's the most in the league over that time frame.
He also has 819 catches, fourth most in the league over since 2017.
Behind Devonte Adams, 886, Travis Kelsey, 880, and Stefan Diggs,
824. His 83 touchdown catches are the third most in the NFL over that time frame.
Devante has 102. Mike Evans has 91. Here's the thing, Ocho. Yeah. You can't trade him now.
You stuck with him. He on your team for the rest of the season. And he's not going to, there's a great
chance. We don't know, but I was just saying, if you were thinking about trading, you can't.
second of all he's on your team and he's probably not going to be able to be any benefit to you
because that looked really really serious and it doesn't look like he's going to play anymore this year
so now all that being said there's a greater chance this off season i mean everything's going to
have to check out oh so you know how that is because now the value is not what it once was
he's over 30 and he's coming off a significant injury there is value there
but not the value that he had before he suffered this injury.
Right.
So now what are the Dolphids going to do?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
To me, it's all based on rehab, treatment,
and seeing how you feel when you get back.
We've seen a few players come back from injuries.
We don't know what the injury is yet, you know, to date,
but knowing Tyreek, knowing the way he works,
behind closed doors that most people don't get a chance to see,
that he works his ass off.
So he's going to work his tail off.
He'll be able to get back out there and get back to full tilt.
Yeah.
As far as speed goes, you ain't losing no speed.
Yeah.
He got that.
He got that to play with.
That ain't going to where.
So I'm just hoping, you know, you get your range of motion back,
get your flexibility back, you know, get those tendons and whatever.
I still don't know what happened, but just get all that stuff around the area that is
or get everything around that area, strengthen,
we'll come back strong the next year.
I'm not sure the cap hit is huge.
I'm not sure it would be with the dolphins,
but whatever it is, you're going to handle your business.
Ocho, AJ Brown's cryptic tweet,
head coach Nick Seriana responded today to his star receiver.
Obviously, AJ is very important to this football team.
I know he wants to contribute.
I know he wants to contribute and do things he's capable of doing.
He wants to contribute into these wins,
and he's had a couple of games where he hasn't been able,
to be a different, for a different reason.
But I questioned nothing about his desire to play great football,
his desire to be a great teammate, his desire to be here.
Ocho, what do you, what he had to say?
I mean, I like it. It's cool.
I mean, a coach going in front of the cameras, going in front of the media,
and saying the things he has to say.
He has to say those things.
Now, the comments, I think he probably had with AJ might be completely different.
Might be completely different,
a coach and a player talk to each other.
I'm sure he knows the frustration.
A.J. Brown has said this countless times over and over and over again.
He said it last year.
He said it in the media, I think it was last week,
or maybe a week before last, before he had the game he had last week.
It's constantly the same thing.
And I think a lot of people are saying, oh, he's a diva.
Oh, he's selfish.
No, he's not.
He wants to win.
When it comes to winning,
obviously you want to be a part of that.
It's like doing a school project,
it's like doing a group project in school
and everybody else do the work
and you sit on the backhand
and everybody getting the ward
and then you're like, well, hell.
I didn't even get to help.
I feel like I ain't doing nothing.
He just wants to be a part
and contribute to the wins that they're having.
Being able to contribute to the...
He contributed. He blocked and doing a great job.
that's a part of it don't you i mean sometimes look i understand look we all when we say we want
to you know we want to we want to contribute receivers won't they want to win i'm not questioning
whether or not a receiver wants to win but they really like to win their way that means 10
catches 100 yards and a touchdown at least that's what they figure contributing blocking is
not a necessary blocking is not really a part where they feel they're contributing they measure
their worth in catches and yards and touchdowns.
And I get it. I'm glad you said that.
They measure their worth. How do you measure
the value when it's time to get paid
of a good receiver by his what?
All that comes into place. Yes,
catching touchdowns.
But blocking.
Blocking is also
a part of that. I have never
seen a great blocking receiver
get $30 million. Never.
They weren't back there back then.
But Jerry Rice block. Jerry Rice block.
come on man i'm just saying oh joe we've got to stop this now look i understand that we like
these guys we let's call it what it is a j brown is upset that he's not care he sees pookin the
coo he sees all these other receivers well yeah yes so so winning is not the most important thing
his stats are of course they are because that's how they back that's how they judge us that's how they
value. What's the first thing? When you talk about numbers, that's the first thing we
always talk about. When we talk about... Let me ask you question.
You talk about top five? What's the first thing we do? We bring up the numbers.
Let me ask you your question. Did you ever, did you ever hear
Heinz Ward complain? He didn't have to. They got in the ball. Go ahead. Next.
He blocked. People thought they changed the rule. They got a, they got a rule in for
Hines Ward and Kwombolden, guys blocked.
I, oh, Joe, I get it.
Because, so this notion that he cares more about winning, he doesn't.
He cares about his stats.
So, you didn't care about your stats?
Is that what he doing?
How do you go public and complain about catches when you winning?
If you lose it, he has a valid argument.
Because if you give me the ball, we would not be in this situation.
You're winning.
You're winning, Ocho.
Okay, all right.
You're right.
All right, you're winning.
It's winning.
Okay.
So let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you, let's give you a prime example.
Let's just say for the sake of argument, Jaila Hurst, say, Jaylor Hurts winning.
He said, man, but damn, I'm throwing for 112 yards, but he's see all these other guys throwing for 300, 400 yards.
And he said, man, I need to throw the ball more.
What would you say then?
Wait.
They measure quarterback by his.
numbers so if jalen hurst throwing for 112 130 they winning and he says man i want to throw the
ball i mean i wish i could throw the ball like my homes i wish i could throw the ball or like
josh allen i wish i could put the ball in the air like some of these other quarterbacks what would
you say then stats is everything i just a outro all i love i love how you you
you switch things up.
Stats is everything,
and you know that.
There's a reason why he's fussing.
You know that.
I know why.
I know why.
When it comes to this dirty business.
You know that.
There's a reason why there's a reason why every receiver,
every number one acts a fool when it comes to their numbers
and getting catches because they base our value on production.
You know that.
Let me ask your question.
Let's just say for the sake of argument.
Let's just say he had Pooka Nekua's numbers, but they were one and three.
That's a hypothetical.
That's a hypothetical.
You see what you did.
See, I got it, Chad.
Hold on.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
When you go to the table, are they-
He already got paid.
Let me finish.
Okay.
He got paid already, right?
Yes.
So you know what they're going to tell him?
Well, AJ, you know what?
Your production doesn't match.
the salary you're making.
So we don't need you to take a pay cut
because when it comes to making $30 million a year,
they don't measure it by wins and losses.
It's based on the goddamn numbers and your production.
Not no damn blocking.
Oh, you block really well.
We're going to pay you 30.
Let me ask you this.
Are the Eagles the only team that pay receivers?
So you don't think he could go anywhere else?
So if his numbers are not good there,
what are other teams looking at him?
They say, AJ still,
I don't know.
I don't know.
That you're going from, you're going, we would talk about one scenario.
We talk about one scenario.
I'm saying you're trying to say the only, the important to him is his stats.
I thought winning.
When he came there, he said he wanted to be a part of a.
He already won.
He won already.
Give me some goddamn numbers.
He had to go through this shit last year.
And guess what?
He got paid.
He got paid.
He got paid.
He got paid.
I can see if he was on that first contract.
He got paid.
Oh, so I got.
I got paid. So you know what? I'm good. One catch for seven yards in a four-quarter
game is enough for 30. Yeah, two. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. I'm just asking you,
is that okay by your standards? Is that okay by your Hall of Fame standards? He could have caught
12 for a buck 50 and lost. Would that be okay by your standards? If that okay by your, I'm just asking.
You know what? It's okay. It's, listen. No, no, I feel that let you go like this.
So if he catches 12 for a buck 50 and they lose, that's okay.
Hey, let me say something.
He didn't catch 12 for 50 and they lost.
He caught two for seven and they won.
And they won.
So what's he complaining about?
I thought the most important thing was winning.
Okay, you're right.
You know what?
You're right.
It is.
Right.
So I'm asking, is it to win or his numbers?
I mean, you would like to be able to contribute.
You would like to.
I'm just asking.
Is it winning or the numbers?
the numbers and winning no wait yeah he's winning he's winning he's winning oh chute all right
i remember hey okay i remember the time he's so funny anytime we talk about when you talk
any time we talk about receivers quarterbacks the first thing we bring up his numbers the only
thing we bring up his number now all of a sudden catching two goddamn two passes for seven yards that's
because you win it. No.
All right.
Hello.
All right.
We mentioned Jaylor Hurts.
We don't mention no numbers.
We mentioned winners.
Everybody says he should be a top quarterback.
No, no, no.
When we talk about winners, we talk about individuals.
And the only way we talk about those winners and individuals is by mentioning their numbers and why they're winning.
Okay.
Which in Jaylorhurst numbers.
People say Jalen Hurts should be thought of as a top five quarterback because he's a winner.
He doesn't have top five quarterback numbers.
but he wins.
So now I'm trying to figure out,
is it winning or is it numbers?
Hey,
hey,
boy,
you forgot,
oh,
Cho,
man,
you look,
I was,
I was the number one guy for a while,
for a while in Denver.
And yeah, I like to catch.
But at the end of the day, if I said I wanted to win,
and I've caught most of the time that when I had big games,
I can honestly say most of the times when I had big games, we won.
But there are times that, you know,
I didn't have a great game as far as stats-wise as we won.
How am I going to go publicly, go public and complain when we're winning?
How?
Right.
That's all I'm saying.
Look, I understand his first.
I do because, yes, I do, because you get out there and you practice all week long and they tell you they're going to get you the ball and then come game time, it don't happen. I get it. I've been there. Hey, but it's hard. It's just, it's just hard when you're winning to convince people and convince the media that winning is the most important thing because it sounds like your numbers are the most important thing. I'm just saying how it comes up.
Hey, I got a question.
Go ahead.
When it comes time for players to get paid, what do they base it off of?
Your what?
I'm in Rosset Brown.
Whether he's gotten paid or not, when it's time for a player to get paid,
what do they base it off when you go to the table?
What do they bring up?
Your what?
Your stats.
All right.
Text close.
Let me get some of the dream.
They bring up your stats, but what about winning?
Tell me the guy that got paid
and top receiver money and they're not winning.
What receiver get making top money?
Tell me the receivers that's making top money
that didn't make playoffs.
Has Jetta ever made the playoffs?
Has CD ever made the playoffs?
Hey, um, have Chase, I'm just asking, Ocho, you keep saying, that don't make no sense.
They're not getting paid because they made the playoffs. Don't do that. If they wanted,
they didn't make the playoff, they were getting paid anyway.
So you were, so then I'm, you name me the three best receivers in the league.
So let me get this great. So you'd rather have stats than lose than have lesser staff
to win. Why are you trying to talk about losing and winning? We talk about, well,
because they're winning and he doesn't have the stats. He could have stats and lose like he
was losing in Tennessee.
That's, this, you, you talk about two totally different things.
No, I'm not.
I said, what do they base it off of when it's time to get paid?
I'm just asking you a simple question.
Numbers in production.
That's what they do.
Oh, Joe.
I'm just asking.
So you, you're putting hypotheticals that that had nothing to do with anything.
I just ask you a question.
So how many times I give you a prime example?
Here's a guy that put up stats and they didn't win and he didn't,
a Megatron.
How many times do you hear Megatron complain about the ball?
Who else were they going to throw it to?
See, there you go.
You see, I doubt you changed it.
Who else were they going to throw it to?
They didn't have a choice.
Stafford didn't have a choice but to throw it to him.
You see?
You see how you flip it out?
Oh, Cho.
He didn't win.
He had crazy stats.
Crazy stats.
Nineteen hundred and sixty-four yards on a 16-game
season for what asking why did he leave early as barry sanders why did he retire early all those rush
yards all those receiving yards he said man i just got tired of losing yeah you think that's what
it was because i just go back if it's a lie they told it i'm i got i could tell you why
calvin wanted to go i can tell you that it ain't gotten to do with no goddamn losing
Well, if it's a lie, he told it.
Hey, that was a great conversation.
Hey, I hope you don't think he will go out there and turn it out against O-O-O-Satan.
P.S.Q, hey, you have our P-Squow?
Hey, listen, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
Hey, chat, stay with me real quick.
Hey, um.
What?
I wouldn't be surprised.
is obviously you know the play is upset.
Yes.
Oh, they're going to try to get in the rock.
Inside that building, the first thing he going to want to do,
and I guarantee you, and I bet the house on it,
the first play is going to him.
I don't know what it's going to be.
It could be something quick.
I'm doubling him.
It's going straight to him.
I'm doubling it.
Hey, you know what you're supposed to do.
A guy like that, you double it.
You take him away early because then he goes like, man,
here we go to say, whoa.
You're playing the Philadelphia Eagles.
Double who?
You better drag.
You better drop nine in the box and stop playing.
You better drop nine in the box and stop playing.
Hey, what we'll do, we'll take P square.
We take P square.
You put him home.
Whoever, he ain't catching nothing.
Man, listen.
Hey, Pat Surtain, get up there playing with 11, 11 if he want to.
He'd get up there playing with 11 he want to.
He'd get bench press out of the way.
Don't do that.
Hey, hey, hey, they, hey, them hands, hey.
Karate expert.
And listen, hey, hey, P2 got lucky tonight.
PS2 got lucky tonight.
For what?
He didn't have a quarterback.
He's lucky.
You had a quarterback last year.
You had a quarterback last year.
And we beat y'all, didn't we?
Y'all, but what did Chase do?
We beat y'all, didn't we?
Oh, see, oh, I fell down.
It's about winning.
Chad, did you hear what he just?
We beat you on, didn't we?
Now, chat, did you hear what he just said?
Did we not beat y'all?
Chat, did you hear what he just said?
Now it's about winning.
It's not about stats.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What we're talking about, you about stats?
You told about the true of crown winner?
You told me, hold on.
You told him the truth of a crown winner?
Huh?
You just told me, chat.
What did he just tell me?
Hold on.
We were talking about a Pacific situation.
Yes.
Okay.
I said P.S.
where shut it down. You said we won the game down. Don't nobody say anybody
man, stop. Go back and look at Chase's numbers in that game. When, when,
satan didn't give up, satan didn't give up 200 yards last year. Look up, look up
Higgins numbers in that game. Not what he, oh, he went against most. Who won the game?
Y'all won, but I thought, but you say we did that the point was the win. So we won.
Stats shouldn't matter, right?
Ain't that what you said?
Jake, this man just talked.
Make up your mind.
Hey, you know what y'all do?
Hey, you know what?
Come up out of this.
I'm getting hot now.
Uh-huh.
Hey, hey, I got my, I got my AC off.
I'm hot.
Man, I got my AC on, and it's still hot.
I'm gonna have to have me another road made.
I got so tight to my shoulders, I can barely turn around.
Damn.
Ah.
Oh, Joe.
What up?
You want one of these t-shirts?
I'll get you a Bronco t-shirt.
See, we should have bet.
We should have bet.
The loser would have had to wear the loser would have had to wear the bronch.
would have had to wear the other team's gear.
Oh, no, I can't do that.
That disrespectful.
That disrespectful for all the years and hard work
and the blood, sweating tears,
and going to the war with my teammates,
even put on another team jersey like that.
No, I can't do that.
Man, whatever.
Despite the Raiders losing to the Bears,
25, 24, Aston Gentie had his best game
after bringing back his iconic Mike Myers' stance.
It seems his head coach,
Pete Carroll loved it. Since House High School,
Gentie has stood straight up with his hands by his side in the backfield before the snap.
However, during the Raiders offseason, the coaching staff demanded Gentie switch to a
traditional running back stance. Chip Kelly being the main advocate for Gentie to change.
It bent knee game. During his first three games, Genti struggled to get going.
He averaged 3.1 yards of carry on 47 carries. Since changing back to that stance yesterday,
he recorded 155 total yards, 138 of those on the ground,
three touchdowns, two receiving, one rushing.
After the game, Genti said,
that's how I naturally feel good standing in the backfield.
So that's how I'm going to play.
Oh, Joe, we've heard a lot of players that's played under Chip Kelly in the NFL,
like, hey, it's like his way.
I'm trying to figure out what does that stance have to do with your coaching style?
It's all about control with him.
It's all about control with him.
That man's been standing like there.
It's kind of like a quarterback, Ocho,
that's taken, and Johnny talked about it,
and said he only took about six naps his whole career
proud of getting to the NFL under center.
This man has been playing like this.
You took him as a top 10 pick in the draft,
and now you get it,
and now you want to change everything about it.
Why?
I mean, the whole point of you drafting as high
is based on everything,
he does not not the production but why change what makes him comfortable that's like you draft
and receive it very high and try to change him on how he stands yeah like what are we doing
coaching that's it let him let him do what he does he's not giving you any indication in which
way he's going by standing straight up none that's what he like that's his style and plus ocho the man
you put him in a conventional stand how the hell he's gonna see you buy what put him in the downstance
Is he already five, six?
Hell, you put him in a,
now he fired two.
Yeah.
That the man sat up so he could just scan the field.
And I think he wears a shield.
So it's not like you can see his eyes and see where he's going.
Yeah.
I mean, it's all about control with him, man.
That stands wasn't bothering anybody.
Nobody at all, at all.
Just to say, just to have your imprint on something.
Oh, the coach.
And like I said, Pete Carroll should have said,
hey, Pete should have went to Chip,
said, nah, Chip.
we'll lead that stance just like it is.
Yeah. I'm glad he went back to doing what he like.
And it's funny, as soon as he goes back to doing what he liked,
he has a game like he did, even though they did lose.
Right. But that's, look, if that's what's going to make him comfortable,
Locho, running out of that stance, most of the time, hey, coaches are very superstitious.
If you need a special meal, if you need something, they make sure you have that.
Yeah, absolutely.
they're going to make sure you have that that man that stance rushed for over 2,000 yards
what 2,500, 2,600 yards last year and now all of a sudden he get there that how does
that impact your play calling because he's standing up like that does it force you to call
play differently than you would if he's in a conventional stance no it's okay not to have
see I don't fault I don't fault him right I fought Pete Carroll for allowing it
Because at the end of the day, he's the offensive coordinator.
Pete Carroll is the head coach.
And I've seen head coaches override offense and defensive coordinators when they did.
No, let him do that.
Because at the end of the day, I want you to play your absolute best.
If standing up in that stance, it's like, oh, you're like you said, a receiver.
Some coaches, if you're on one side, whatever side you are, okay, I want your right.
If you're on the right side, I want your right leg back.
If you're on the left side, I want your left leg.
Man, go, man, leave me the elf alone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I used to play with my stands.
And I really love the fact that at times I was giving the freedom
to change the thing, because you know they watch film.
Yes.
By that skinny, it's always the same place.
If the ball's in the middle, you inside add to the numbers.
If the ball's on the left ass, you outside add to the numbers.
So I used to play with my splits a lot.
Well, you had to, yes, yes.
So I would play with my spitz a lot so people wouldn't know what I was doing
because it's always on film.
So I would just add something to the offense,
but I would always end up in the same place
at the right time I got to be there.
Right.
And that's what it comes down to.
You know, hey, sometimes you got to run a slant.
Yeah.
You got to switch it up.
You got to, hey, man, he's tight.
Yeah.
Well, hell, they're going to know.
Sometimes you got, hey, man, I'm going to have to bust it,
but I can't keep line up in this tight split
and running this shallow.
or I can't keep running this tight split and running this speed out because they're going to pick up on that.
Like you said, they study, they study film, they study your foot placement, they study your alignment, they study, okay, oh, he always, he normally always have this foot back.
Yeah.
When he have this foot back, here come that bang.
So now you put that foot back and you run the out because he's going to be looking to drive the bang.
the same thing that we do when we see a linebacker and he staggered he switch his stance
oh you come man you're coming you're aiming to dropping no coverage man sharp how you know
don't worry about it i'll tell you after the game i ain't for to tell you die so you can change it
up but yeah let let the young man let the young man prosper and if that's what's going to help
him be his absolute best take off son hey you want to eat you want to eat you
want to eat spaghetti, for a pregame, take off.
Yeah.
If you want to eat me, I was a French toast, uh, uh, oatmeal guy.
That's what I had in a banana.
That's what, that's what my pregame was.
Now, I ate pasta the night before the game, but some, some people like pot, like pasta in
steak before the game.
I don't like that, oh, that's too heavy.
That's too heavy.
I need to be light.
I need that stuff to be out of my system by the time I get to the game.
But, yeah, I think Chip Kelly was trying to.
to do too much for that. That was that was totally
unnecessary because now let the guy
succeed.
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