Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bruce Arians on Anthony Richardson readiness, Caleb Williams Weighs In on Bears’ Hail Mary Drama

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week, including Bruce Arians questioning Anthony Richardson’s readiness for NFL, Caleb Williams saying Eberflus “annoyed” the Bears with mishandling of the Hail Mary loss, & much more!04:10 - Matt Eberfluse and Bears drama10:17 - Deshaun Watson believes he’ll be back better than ever13:38 - Omarion Hampton joins the show29:00 - Bruce Arians on Anthony Richardson readiness(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How Eberflus handled it all at the time for that game was I think one of the things that throughout the locker room people talked about and were annoyed by. Eberflus had him. him hold on what about the db that was joshing around with the fans what what about the cup of what about the what about the accountability of the players if he was where he was supposed to be see play that that's what annoys me about these millennial

DGNZ, is that they want to absorb themselves of responsibility, accountability. Now, we see the guy. He's over there doing this. The play is going on. He's making fun of

the people and the fans who have no impact on the game. And then the quarterback blames the head coach. Listen, you know how it is in situations like that? We go over all that on Fridays, huh? Yes. We go over every scenario possible on Friday just in case it happens so let me ask you this do a do what you do what you're doing praying the one thing that we didn't do is that when we

run those flows we practice the guys on the defensive side they're not messing with the people in the fans oh absolutely so Caleb you don't mind me asking so what responsibility what was that was his last name Stevenson? Who was that DB number 29? So I just want to know. I just want to hear him say what Tyreek Stevenson, Caleb Williams, as a guy, two guys that played in the NFL, what responsibility, what role did Tyreek Stevenson play in that?

I know you said there were things perioding throughout the locker room that Ibra flews when you lost that game. I just want to hear you say what role you believe he played in that. Now, was this said recently by Caleb Williams? We're not misquoting anything

he said, right? However, how Ibra flews handled it at the time for that game, I think was one of the things that throughout the locker room people talked about and were annoyed by. Okay, okay. I mean, and listen, I'm not sure how that's on the coach at all because I'm sure when it's done in Friday's practice, whether it be walkthrough

or whether it be full speed, I'm sure you're not messing around with the fans or the fans. That's it, Ocho. If he's where he's supposed to be. That's it. The outcome might be different. The outcome might be different.

Now, there have been times where people have done the right way and it just so happened they got lucky and they caught it. You can live with that. Live with it. I can live i can live but i can't live with this no and that's what i absolutely and see what i tell people hard work doesn't guarantee you anything but i believe it when i believe without it you don't have a chance see ocho if i go about something and i work as hard as i possibly can and it doesn't happen, it didn't happen. But when people have regret,

if I didn't stay out so late, if I didn't drink, had I taken it more serious. Come on now. You can have a lifetime of discipline, or you can have a lifetime of regret. Choose wisely. Hold on, where my pen and pad at now?

Don't do that. Don't do that. Where my pen and... Baby! I can't, I can't. Wait, say, give me, come on, listen. Give me that one more time. You can have a lifetime of what?

Discipline or a lifetime of regret. For you to blame the coach, when this this guy when you see the guy joshing around the play is going on and then he's running as hard as he possibly can to try and then he's late he's the one to tip the ball and let brown catch it nor brown catch it yeah yeah he's supposed to knock the ball down. Whatever you do. Rule number one, knock the ball down. Dang. Damn. Yeah, that's what I don't get.

Look, it's over with. Just move on. He came out better saying, hey, look, guys, that was last year. Hopefully we're better in those situations this year. We got a new coaching staff. Guys are excited. My rookie year had some ups, had some downs. There's some things I can do better. We will get better. We've

improved in a lot of areas. We revamped the offensive line. Guys understand me. I understand them. Hey, I'm very excited about this season. But to talk about that play without mentioning a player that should have been, I don't get down like that. In position? No.

Yeah, most definitely. Hey, and one thing about them Bears, Unc, I can tell you this. Just to finish on something positive, that goddamn Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, boy, the magic that they finna have and the chemistry they finna have. They got Roman Dunzay. They got DJ Moore. They improved that offensive line

by leaps and bounds. Joe Tooney. They signed a couple of guys. They got three guys in free agency. Listen, the offensive creativity alone itself, the Bears are going to be must-watch. They're going to be must-watch. I'm excited.

Yeah, I'm excited for them, but they don't have a choice. I'm excited. Because Detroit's in that division. The Packers are in that division. Minnesota's in that division. What choice do you have? If you don't get better, guess what? You'll finish and last again, like you finished for the last several years.

Hold on. Let me use the bathroom real quick. Hold on. Oh, show. Oh, show. Deshaun Watson say he will come back better than he ever was. Everyone don't think I can get back to where I was. I believe the work that I put in, that I believe in myself.

I know I'm going to be way better than before. Hey, that's where it all started, huh? That's where it all started. Now, one of the problems with Deshaun Watson in previous years, based on how he looked, is it looked like his confidence was shot. It looked like his confidence was shot. I even asked you before, why does it seem like other quarterbacks that come into the game that

play in the exact same system look that much better than he does? Why would Joe Flacco coming in and leading the Cleveland Browns to a first-round playoff berth? Why does the offense look completely different every time somebody else is at the helm? For one, I think Deshaun might

not have been all the way fully healthy. You know, outside of that, I think it's confidence for Deshaun, and you can tell by his decision-making when he was playing. I don't know. Listen, I hope he gets back to the old Deshaun that we're used to seeing and make that AFC North that much more interesting, where it's a four-quarterback battle, you know, for the top. I mean, well.

You know what I'm going to do, Ocho? Three-quarterback. I'm going to call K-Mart and tell him to go ahead and send me those cigars. Who? K-Mart. Oh, I forgot K-Mart. Listen, now I don't want to – listen, I don't play by my cigars now. Now, one thing about it, you lost that bet.

I hope you don't play. I ain't heard from him since. I ain't heard from him since. I ain't heard from K-Mart since. Hey, listen, I would hate to have to jump on him. I would hate to have to do it to him. I'm going to call him tomorrow. I'm going to say, K-Mart, just go and send that to me. Hey, don't do that.

With them 70-gauge lunatics and them Daniel Marshalls. Listen, he see you, my cigars, I probably had to whoop him. I'm just being honest. Well, that's between you and him, but I'm going to get them cigars. My brother smoke cigars. You know, my brother loves cigars. Now, he don't smoke them kind, though. He don't smoke them kind.

He don't smoke them kind, but he will. Hey, chat, y'all tell Kenyon Mard, man, make sure I need – he got three days. He got three I need – he got three days. He got three days because if he got three days to get my cigars in Miami or I'm going to come on Gil's Arena, I'll fly to L.A. I'll whoop Kenyon Martin. Matter of fact, I'll whoop everybody on Gil's podcast. Why you want to whoop everybody but you don't want to pay me?

Because the Guilty By Association. So Gil going to get it. Kenyon going to get it. Well, guess what? I got to whoop you, all the kids Chauncey, everybody guilty by association my kids will jump you boy

that's what I'm looking for my kids will jump you boy you don't want no smoking them boys hey this for your daddy hey daddy pay this man hey you're a you remember how they caught what you call them they caught little man out there who st. Louis how you did it they make a with st. Louis caught it and they put it

back put his head in the car and they put that no put that cigarette out on his nose anyway that told dollar bill dollar he went there and told Dollar Bill. Dollar Bill said, whoa. He said, man, you need to pay this man for somebody to get hurt. No, you going to get hurt. Ain't no somebody. You. Hey, that's funny.

Amblin and all that. He's been injured. That's tough. We could continue this. We'll come back after this. Ocho actually connecting now draft pick amari on hampton he's the second team so ap all-american first team all acp acc running back finalist for the dope walker award led the team with 15 russian touchdowns ranked third in

the fbf with 1660 rushing, a former Gatorade North Carolina Mr. Football Player of the Year, and winner of the state's Mr. Football. Where are your eyes set on UNC or, oh, no. Amar Yon. I'm about to read, I'm about to read everything for you, bro.

I don't know how you're doing. I'm good, bro. How you doing, bro? I'm doing good. How about you? I How you doing, bro? I'm doing good. How about you? I'm doing great, bro. I see you repping CAA, so that's the agency that you signed with? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just recently joined them.

They've been with me through the past season, so I feel pretty good about them. Good, good. Congratulations. Let me ask you this. You're Gatorade, Mr. North Carolina. You're arguably, obviously, so you win that award. That means you're the state's best football player. Why did you choose UNC?

Did you want to stay at home? Did you go to Georgia? Did you Alabama? Anybody else? What was it about UNC that says, you know what? Home is where I want to be. Yeah, yeah. I actually took an official to Florida. I took a person to Auburn Penn State and

then UNC and then I kind of narrowed it down to uh Penn State and UNC and then uh I kind of was just always up at UNC it's like 50 minutes in my crib so it's like uh I got to know the teammates I got to know the coaches I feel like it uh I feel like the uh the playing style they had at the time the offense they had at the time fit me well. So I feel like that was a big part of it too. So I feel like all of that put it together. Hey, O, I want to ask you about your combine experience. I remember my combine experience being very nervous,

the unfamiliarity having to be in front of scouts, being in front of that many people and the pressures that came with it. How was your experience at the Combine and how do you feel you did? Yeah, I feel like it was definitely different. It was something I had to adjust to just being in like meeting after meeting after meeting, just going into that and then having to like run your 40 and do like all the competitive stuff on the last day.

But I feel like I did good on it. I feel like I was prepared for it. I feel like Brent, the guy I was training with, Brent Callaway, he did a good job with all his players and stuff like that. I feel like he's been helping us prepare for it well. So I feel like I did well on it. It was a good experience just to get to talk to all the head coaches and stuff. It was really cool.

If you had to take a guess on the coaches that you talked to, and you know how you can get a feel. You can get a feel on who likes you, and you can kind of get a feel on who doesn't based on the type of questions they ask you, based on how in-depth they get with the personal questions outside of the game of football. If you had to take a guess, who do you think is leaning towards the draft in you on draft day?

Yeah, I mean, whoever picked me, I'll be happy with. But, I mean, it's a lot of teams who need a running back. So, I mean, whoever picked me is going to get the best of me, really. So, I feel like I kind of don't look at all the little draft, mock drafts and stuff like that. That's where I was going to take it because a lot of the mock drafts, the latest mock drafts have you going to the Broncos. Now, if you need to hook up,

you know, I know some people. I wouldn't be mad at it. Because if you look at it, if you look at it, you see what Saquon was able to do you see what Jameer Gibbs and you see what Josh Jacobs and you see what King Henry

you see the resurgence there was a stretch for about a decade the running back was not as not a decade probably say 6-7 years the running back was not as valued as it seems to be currently is and coming back. Why do you think that is?

And what can you add? If a team, I'm drafting, and I drafted Marriott. Tell me what type of player, what type of person am I getting? Yeah, well, I mean, it's just for me, I feel like I love to see just like the Derrick Henrys, Saquons, just them doing their thing out there. I feel like it's putting more value in the position themselves. I feel like if the team drafts me, they're going to get a three-down back. They're going to get a guy that plays special teams.

Everybody can run in this league, so I feel like pass protection is a big thing I key on. I feel like catching out the backfield is another thing that I key on, just learning the defense, learning where the safeties are, learning how the linebackers move and stuff like that. Just different things, like all the in-depth stuff like that. Just different stuff like that. I don't know, I mean,

unless you run back punts or kickoff, I don't know if they're going to put you out there on special teams. You might have done played your last special team in college. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. You said you were three to attack. And then you said what you can do with pass protection.

Then you brought up being able to catch the ball out the backfield. So that makes you that much more valuable than other running backs that can do all those things, right? I'm telling you it does. It makes you special. So in hindsight, when you think about the type of running back you are and what you bring to the table depending on who drafts you, who would your NFL comparison be right now as far as your playing style goes?

Yeah, yeah. For me, I like to watch a lot of guys take tips off a lot of guys. I feel like Joe Midson is kind of like a running style that I'm like. I feel like I try to watch like – I like Gibbs running style. I feel like Bijan is going to be crazy in the future. I feel like all those guys really just like Saquon, like Saquon's. I feel like everybody. UNC has a great running back.

I mean, go ahead. No, I was just saying I like the Joe Mixon repairs, and that's a good one. That's a good one. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm looking at some of the running backs that's come out of UNC. Todd Chandler, Michael Carter, Javante Williams, and now yourself. Have you talked to any of those guys? Have they given you some tips about how to prepare for the NFL? What it's like once you get there in order to give you? Because, you know, you kind of got a little GPS. You got guys that went to your school

that can partake information that a lot of people don't have. Yeah, yeah. I feel like Javante, Mike Carter, Todd Chandler, I feel like even the Natron means, I feel like those are all my guys. I can talk to them whenever I need. Yeah, Natron, yeah, yeah.

He's the dog. Yeah, I can talk to them whenever I need to. Yeah, he's the dog. Yeah, I can talk to him whenever I need to. They help me out with stuff I need to. I take tips off them, too. So I feel like, yeah, they're always a connection for me, I feel like. North Carolina used to have some great running backs. I don't know if you're probably a little young, but Derek Fenner, famous Amos Lawrence, went to North Carolina.

Yeah. Oh, but Derek Fenner, they ended up moving to tight end once he got to the NFL, but he was an outstanding running back at UNC. Let me ask you this. I want to ask you this, bro. You named after Mariano B2K?

I don't think so, no. Because I've been proud of him. I don't know if I ever seen somebody with a name like Mariano. So damn, I'm like, hold on, let me ask this man. Your mom might have liked B2K back in the day. Nah, nah.

They definitely used to listen to him, but I don't know if I was named after him. Hey, I got one. So, UNC was sponsored by Jordan Brand, right, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah, yeah. Sponsored by Jordan, yeah. Going into the NFL, who would be your dream partnership to be a part of going into the NFL going to the NFL who would be your dream partnership to be a part of going into the NFL

would you like to continue with Jordan Brand obviously that would be Nike as well but you know Jordan Brand has his own select players that are part of that are part of Jordan would you like to be with Nike Adidas I mean yeah

yeah right now I'm starting with nike but uh yeah right now i'm starting like yeah i like it i like it yeah bro it don't matter cleats on feet mean people eat so that's what you're trying to do right now it don't matter if it they could be pony. They could be sockity. They could be a pool. Hey, cleats on feet. People eat. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Exactly.

Huh? Yeah. You remember you had pony cleats too? I did, yes. I wore pony cleats my freshman year in high school. Had Converse too. Converse used to make cleats. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, when you're not grinding, right? When you're not grinding, what's your go-to cheer move are you a gamer you like music you like movies and what would you be on outside of the game of football outside of game four uh i probably would be with the boys playing basketball i'd be hooping on we're going over like to the uh yeah yeah we'll be uh over at the red center just hooping over

there okay so you're not a gamer. No games, no Madden, no FIFA, no Call of Duty? Nah, yeah, I'll be on Call of Duty. Call of Duty is my game. All right, all right, all right. You married? Oh, yeah, yeah, I got a girl, but I ain't married. I ain't married.

Stay focused. Yeah. Let me ask you let me ask you something give me your top 5 running backs if I said ok you get any 5 running backs that you want from any era give me your top 5 running backs

yeah I'm going to say you got to put Reggie Bush in there I feel like you got to put him in there I feel like I feel like you got to put him in there. I feel like growing up, I was a big Marshawn Lynch fan. Okay. I feel like Marshawn Lynch is in there, too. Yeah, yeah.

And then, let me see. I got to put Saquon in there. Okay. I feel like what you can do is unreal. Saquon. Now I'm going to do, I'm going to put Derrick Henry in there. I'm going to put Derrick Henry. And then I'm probably missing – I'm missing a lot of people.

Yeah, you're missing a lot of people because you ain't put nobody in that came before 2000. Hey, oh, they didn't play football before 2000, bro. I just want to throw that out there that's your list hey hey i want you to take off on your list but they didn't play the game of football before 2000 no i wasn't allowed in this school no definitely but you said you like joe mixon so are you more like you more run for power? You run more for like, are you shifty?

I mean, are you a combination? Yeah. Yeah, I try to add everything to my game. Really, it's always room to grow. Try to grow to do different things. I feel like try to make them juke in space. Make them do different things. Learn off different people.

So I feel like it's always room good thing to go to do different things. I try to be versatile, versatile as much as I can. Right. Well, bro, we want to thank you for joining us. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I got one more question. Go ahead. I got one more question.

If football didn't exist, now obviously we all need to have a plan B. You just know you're going to stand for not for long. I'm not wishing nothing bad. It's just a question. In life, if you're playing, if football didn't exist, let's say it didn't exist, what would your dream career be if you weren't playing football? I feel like even what I'm doing now, I feel like if it weren't like personal training with football, I feel like I would do personal training with like just fitness stuff. So I feel like going around doing personal training with like kids who didn't have like the opportunities that I had and like smaller neighborhoods and stuff like that. I feel like that's something I want to do in the long run, just reaching out to those kids, giving them opportunities that I had.

So I feel like that's one of the things I'll definitely look into. That's a good one. That's dope. That's dope. Well, thanks for giving us some of your time. We wish you the best of luck wherever you go, bro. Hey, it's not how high you go. It's where you go.

And once you get there, the journey really starts. Your journey doesn't start just getting to the NFL. The journey starts once you arrive in the NFL. So Ocho and I want to wish you best of luck. The Nightcap family want to wish you the best of luck. And check back in when it's down the road. Yeah. All right. Appreciate you, bro.

Don't forget to eat McDonald's. Yeah, appreciate you. That's Amarion Hampton, the University of North Carolina running back, projected to be a first-round pick. Mock had him going to the Broncos, but we'll see. Since there has been a resurgence, we saw what Saquon did for the Eagles. We saw what Derrick Henry did for the Ravens offense. Josh Jacobs for the Packers.

Jameer Gibbs for the Lions. We saw Joe Mixon, what he added to the Houston Texans. And so the running back is kind of like a coming back. We saw the year before what C-Mac did for the 49ers. Yeah. So the running back is definitely coming back. Guys that can run can catch it, but you got to be able to pass block because once they found that you can't pass

block, they're going to blitz you. They're going to make you stay in. They're going to make you stay in, Ocho. We wish the young man the best of luck. Ocho, Bruce Arian, regarded as the quarterback whisperer, spoke about Anthony Richardson. He said,

Anthony, I think needed two more years in college as a passer. I didn't see him as being able to beat anybody in two minutes in third down. If you can't do that in the NFL, you're just an average guy. Eli. Eli. He's right.

He's right. I have a question. You got third? Ocho, you make your money on third down. Every time. You got to make your money on third down. Listen,

you hope to make your hay on first to make second and third a little easier yes if you don't the better the passer you are the more easy it is convert those third downs now obviously i think the repetitions obviously being in college would have helped him tremendously if you look at the numbers i don't have the numbers in front of me so i don't want to state and be and be and be wrong uh statistically but he didn't play that many games in college huh that's why he said he should and he wasn't he didn't play that many games in college, huh? That's why he said he shouldn't. He wasn't a high completion percentage guy in college.

We're not playing a whole lot. I get why he came out, Ocho. The guy's a top five pick. He got $20 million, $25 million probably fully guaranteed. They ain't paying that in NIL and collective. I get why. I get why. I get why.

You get why. His family gets why. Because at the end of the day, why are we doing this, Ocho? We're trying to set our families up. That's how I'm not saying, oh, let me take that back here, Ocho. There's no such thing as all or every. But a lot of us, what we do this for is for our family. We're trying to get to the bag as soon as we possibly can because everybody didn't go up grow up like a grant hill that had

a two-parent or the mannings or the watts so we grew up in a situation a lot of times his grandma a lot of times his mom and we trying to get there to get them out of that situation so i get why he did it right but what bruce has said and i totally agree he could have gotten a lot more by staying and getting better at his craft right but at the end of the day in the two-minute drill and on third down is as a quarterback where you make your money you make your money? You got to have it. You got to have it. But, but who's to say there are a lot of, there are a lot of quarterbacks in NFL that have made it, that have stayed for four years, that have been there for a long time,

that in those same situations and converting third downs. So just why you say what his big message is also, too many drill third down. If you can't do that, you're average. So he's not saying that. He believed that he would have been better. Look at B.A.'s record, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck. He worked with Big Ben Roethlisberger.

Yes, sir. Had all those guys in the early stages. He worked with – he had Carson. I think he had Carson in Arizona, didn't he worked with uh he had carson if i'm not i think he had carson yeah in arizona in arizona yeah okay so he knows something about the quarterback position i like ba ba gonna tell you like it is it ain't no sugarcoat with ba now yeah yeah hey if it comes up it's coming out yes it was also one of the issues over there in Tampa now. Remember? Yeah, absolutely. That's why they sent his ass upstairs.

Absolutely. So I believe, because here's the thing, Ocho. He was maybe a 50% completion guy in college. If you're 50% in college. 50? He's 46. Put it like this here. He had a worse completion percentage than Tebow in the NFL.

And you know Tebow was 47%. It was worse than Tebow's. So you're not going to be successful. Ocho, with the way the field is spaced now, the way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect the receiver, the way they protect the receiver, everybody should be completing 60%. Yeah.

Yeah. Actually, you should. To me, I'm not saying the game is easy, but they made the offensive game much easier. Yes. And so that's why the quarterback – Especially with the way defenders and defense are handicapped. So now it used to be if you completed in the high 50s oh you had a hell of a

season oh yeah oh that's a hell of a 90s when i got to the league and even before oh joe if you threw for 3 000 yards was the standard if you threw for 3 000 yards because everybody ran the football that's why many believe dan marino still has the greatest statistical passing season even though they passed him for yards they passed him for touchdowns he threw for 40 uh for 5 000 yards and 48 touchdowns in that era the running error yeah yeah duper duper and clayton was eating boy boy. Boy, did you know what they did? Look, I came in when they knocked your ass off. There was no part of the quarterback that was off limits. The only thing, you couldn't hit him at the bottom of his feet,

and that's because he was standing on them. Other than that, from the top of the head to the top of your feet. You remember I sent you that clip, what Charles Martin did to Jim McMahon? Oh, yeah. He was just standing there, and he looked around like, oh, I got you. Wow. Oh, that was commonplace. Go back and look.

Bruce Smith jumps off sides. That's what they call unabated to the quarterback. Bruce jumped off sides, knocked Boomer Siles out. Of the game? For like weeks. Not just game? For like weeks. Not just the game, for weeks. It was anything goes.

Anything. And so they made it easier. So for a quarterback to be in the 40s, right? Oh, Lord. Oh, man. That's bad. It's Elcho. He's got to get up to the mid-50s he's got to get it up to the mid-50s ojo i have a question yes i think a quarterback struggling they have a high percentage or high completion percentage do you think this because of his support and cast around

him is not good enough man he got some hey you see what he got them receivers he got he got jonathan taylor in the back. We forgot to mention Jonathan Taylor. We didn't mention him, Ochoa. And honestly, having Jonathan Taylor back there, it should make anything having to do with the passing game that much effing easier. Yes.

Because I know they got a safety in the box. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you got Pittman. They got another receiver too that's really good. I forget his name though. Number 10.

Number 10. Hey, Chad. I apologize. I apologize for the disrespect, but Young Bull, whoever wears number 10, I forget your name. Boy, I'm telling you here out of my mouth. Boy, you is the real deal, boy.

You the real deal. And I apologize if I don't remember your name. Boy, young boy, you're the real deal, boy. Oh, yeah. What's his last name, huh? I can't. Oh, man. They got Michael Pittman Jr. What's the other receiver? Alex Pierce. Alex Pierce. That's number 10 receiver? Alex Pierce.

Alex Pierce. That's number 10 name, Alex Pierce? They got Josh Downs, Alex Pierce, Michael Pittman Jr. I think the tight end is Moe Alley-Cox. And they got Jonathan Taylor. And Braden Smith took some time away. He was dealing with some things. They got a nice offensive line.

Yeah, there's no reason a nice offensive line. Yeah. There's no reason. There's none for him to be completing less than 50% of his passes. Because he missed a lot of throws, Ocho. And I say, bro, you don't have to throw everything through the eye of a hurricane.

You got to touch. You got to touch. You got to have some finesse to your game. You got to have some finesse. I'm trying to think what quarterback is labeled of having a very... Mitchell. Mitchell. Mitchell is number 10, Ocho. You don't know his first name?

Added Mitchell? Yeah. Whatever it is, he could cook. Hey, he'd be cooking. Hey, Brother Mitchell, I apologize. I will never forget your name again. But I'm going to tell you one thing. They got some nice receivers over there, Ocho.

I'm talking about nice. Nice. There's no reason for him. I would be proud that Mitchell has a bigger role coming this season. There's no reason for him to be completing 46% of his passes. With that type of receiving core, with that offensive line, and

with Jonathan Taylor in your backfield? Well, listen, he might be better this year. You never know. You have a whole offseason to work on things, work on the things you need to work on. Going into having another mini camp, another training camp up under your belt, familiarity with the system you're in. I think and hoping, hoping this year he plays well.

Got to put the time in. Yeah, you got to. I'm hoping he plays with a lot more confidence and he'll be fine. Got to put the time in. Yeah. Got to put the time in. And if he does that remember we had we had pitman on yeah um who else we we talked to some people like lay bro he he he can't

be the first you can't be the the the the last one in and the first one to leave it's gotta be the first it's gotta be first yeah first the first one in the last one the last one to leave. Not the last, first. First, last. But hopefully he gets it figured out because, like I said, I think they got it. Look, that's a very competitive division. You got Houston. CJ Stroud.

Houston going to be – you got Lawrence. You about to have Cam Ward in that division. Because, look, if you go back and study it, don't y'all look at it. It's a quarterback league. Look at the NFC East. Look at the NFC West, what they have in the West. Look at these divisions.

That'll tell you who's winning it. Yeah, yeah. Quarterbacks, because that's what you got to compete against. I know they're not on the field at the same time but you have to match him you can't like oh our defense gonna hold him if i throw for 170 yards we're gonna no you might win one or two games like that yeah but you're gonna have to match that production every time so hopefully hopefully our ar gets this thing figured out and uh get this thing turned around the volume this thing figured out and get this thing turned around.

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