Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bucks beat Lakers, Mavericks owner speaks on Luka trade, & Rome Flynn joins the show

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Bucks beating the Lakers, the Mavericks owner speaks about the Luka trade, and we have a special guest Rome Flynn joining the show!06:15 - Show start07:50 - Bucks vs. Lakers23:34 - Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont speaks on Luka trade43:37 - Stephon Castle pranked49:14 - Bill Belicheck wants girlfriend included in all emails56:50 - Rome Flynn joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But first, the Bucs beat the Lakers by 20, 126 to 106. That's three straight losses. The three teams behind them in the standings are all riding winning streak. Houston, four games. Golden State, five games. Minnesota, six games. Big trip tomorrow to end

the road trip in Denver back-to-back. The Lakers wasted an outstanding performance by Luka Doncic. Luka is the youngest Lakers player to have 45 points, 10 rebounds in a game since 1962.

Oh, 45. Magic had. What did Magic have in that playoff game, Ash? Was it 42? He might have had 42. But anyway, he's the youngest Laker to have 45 points, 10 rebounds in the game since 1962. The problem tonight, Ocho, was the guys that can score, they don't really defend very well.

Luka and AR. Guys that can defend can't score the ball. Fannie Smith, Vanderbilt, that's the issue that you had. Luka and AR played extremely well. Nobody else did much. And that's the problem that you're going to have. They got crushed on the Magic half, 42-15, okay. The Lakers shot 44% from the floor.

They allowed Milwaukee to shoot 48. They shot 38% from the three. They allowed the Bucs to shoot 43. Turnovers wasn't that vast. 14 for the Lakers, 12 for the Bucs. They did get out-rebounded by 10 on the offensive glass. But look, and that's the problem that you're going to have right now. They're scrambling. They're undersized.

Like I said again, and I don't like to beat a dead horse, but I don't know why they signed Alex Lynn. He's big for no reason. I mean, probably God thinking like, man, if I didn't know you was going to be like this, I wouldn't have gave you all this height. There ain't no sense in you. There ain't no sense in you. Pretty soon he's about to be the tallest coach ever.

That's where he's headed. That's his next occupation, Ocho, coaching. Yeah, I don't want to talk bad about him. Maybe he just hasn't come into his own yet. Maybe he's lacking a little bit of confidence. Having that type of size, that type of length, and to be playing in the NBA, you have to be of

some type of use. I haven't seen it yet. Listen, I know. I saw it for myself. No Jackson Hayes tonight, no LeBron, no Rui. I think the game would have been a little bit more competitive, obviously, if the Lakers was healthy.

Obviously, Luka did all he could do, but as you said, those that score can't play defense. Those who play defense, they can't goddamn score. So not having LeBron, his hurt, I think it's going to be like this for the next week or two until he can get himself back in health. Luka's going to have to do his best. Luka's going to have to do his best and carry the load as much as he can. And hopefully, you know, the supporting cast can have nights,

those that can score can have nights when they're on and be a little bit more efficient and pick up the slack being that LeBron is not there. You look at Luka. They scored 106 points, Ocho. Luka gave you 45. Austin Reed gave you 28. That's 73. That's crazy.

They got 33 from 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. The nine other players scored 33 points. One guy scored 10. So that means they got 23 from the other eight. Right. And now you look at the Bucs. Giannis was an assist away from a triple-double, 24-12-9. Brooke Lopez, 23.

Dane, 22. Kevin Porter Jr., 22. Gary Trent Jr., 16. When you get that kind of 16. When you get that kind of production, when you get that kind of balanced scoring, and the scoring is so lopsided on the other side, that's kind of what you're going to get. You're going to

get a situation where you get blown out, and like we said, we were talking about it at the top, Ocho, those that can score don't defend. Those that can defend can't score. So what do you do? I mean, they would have literally had to play a perfect game. Luka and AR give you what they gave you, but other guys are going to have to knock down shots.

I mean, Luka can't play any better. I mean, some of the shots that he was hitting, you're like, damn. Damn. Yeah. And they got the game within, what, two, three? And next thing you know, the Bucs go on a 10-0 run or 12-4 run and push it back to 14 the lucky lakers claw it back they go on a 15 15 2 15 3 run and push it back out and then the lakers could get no closer no closer than that it's just lebron could not have and it's not his fault so i don't want people to say oh shed like you could help but

lebron injury could not have come at a worse time, Ocho. I mean, they were playing extremely well, and then he gets hurt. Now what do you do? And I said this at the time, I do not believe they're going to be in second place. They're not going to be in second place. They got to hope they can hold this thing up

and not get in the play-in, which is 7-10, because they got an uphill climb. They got the Nuggets tomorrow. What? They got the Nuggets tomorrow. Now, Brooke Lopez had 23. What the hell you think Yolk going to do?

Well, listen, it don't matter who Yolk playing. He going to get 29-30 each night regardless. Listen, Yolk could be playing the goddamn five disciples on the court. He going to score. He going to get his points no matter what. For some reason, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if the grads, as good as Denver's been playing all year long, and despite the Lakers not having LeBron, once they shock you tomorrow,

for some reason, once the Lakers shock you tomorrow and just so happen to stumble up on a win despite LeBron not playing. Luka's probably going to have another good game. Luka need to go for 70. Luka need to go for 70. AR need to go for 35. And then the other guys need to go for 30.

Yep. And you know what, don't be surprised it happened. I'm not saying it because because I'm saying I'm just saying the way sports goes

in general, for some reason, it always happens like that. They've lost three, and all of a sudden, they play Denver. You expect them to lose, especially those that like to gamble. They mess around and win tomorrow night. Watch. Now, watch what I say. Had they not gotten blown out last

night by Minnesota, I might have agreed with you, Ocho. I might have agreed with you, but because they got blown out at home by Minnesota, I don have agreed with you, Ojo. I might have agreed with you. But because they got blown out at home by Minnesota, I don't see that happening. Mike Malone will have them very focused. That left a nasty taste in their mouth. They know.

I mean, they let Ant-Man go off. Drew Randall went off. And they got beat by almost 20 on their home court. They'll be fired up. That crowd will be rocking. And if you watch this team over the last four to five years,

they get up like no other to play the Lakers. Lakers, yeah. They get up to play the Lakers. The Lakers are everybody's championship. I mean, especially the Nuggets. Some teams you get them to play for, like now it's Kansas City. Used to be the Patriots. Everybody played their best when they played the Cowboys. Especially the Nuggets. Some teams you get on the play for, like now it's Kansas City, used to be the Patriots.

Everybody played their best when they played the Cowboys. That's what the Lakers are up against now. And I expect the Nuggets to put their best foot forward. I expect them to play some of their best ball because they're ticked off that they let Minnesota come in there and do what they did to them last night. Right. What? Oh, man. Yeah, it's tough. And they did to them last night. Right. What? Oh, man. Yeah, it's tough.

And they were playing so well, Ocho. The Lakers had been playing extremely well. Luka and LeBron had started to figure it out. Luka was going to have the ball in his hand. LeBron was going to dive and slash to the basket, going to get to the post up. He post up at the top of the key, post up on the side. Now he can see over.

The assist totals were really high because you got two of the best passers in NBA history with the ball in their hands, a large part. AR takes a little pressure off AR because now your two best defenders got to guard LeBron and Luka. So now AR is getting a third or fourth best defender. He's going to do what he does. So everything really, really started to go well. And then just like that. Yeah.

You know, it's funny. Honestly, it's pretty much the same thing that happened to Dallas. You know, everybody questions the trade. They look good. They look decent for a little bit. 80 goes down. Okay, we still got Kyrie. We got something to live off of.

We got some hope. We still got a superstar that can put butts in the seats or at least get the view of attention. He goes down. Damn. So the Lakers looked like the trade that they had, it was winning. LeBron playing well.

Luka playing well. They going on a winning streak. Luka showing flashes of what he used to be. Then he's scoring 30. He cutting the fool. LeBron cutting the fool. Some of the press is off of him. He don't have to bring the ball up the court.

He can play freely. Take over a game when he want to. Now he go down. Hey, it's sports, baby. That's what makes the game so beautiful. Yeah. Sometimes, Ocho, you you gotta laugh to keep from crying oh man that's a good one right there boy you gotta keep from crying because you know who

the lake you know the lake you can use right now whoever the whoever the triple double in high school nobody ain't nobody out there can help the lakers right now Boy you ain't never seen me Put the ball on the floor now Boy you ain't never seen My big brains game huh You ain't never seen me Come off the pick and roll And pull up

Oh so you can pick and pop Man I can pick and pop I can pick and pop Better than the stripper I tell you no lie That's uh Yeah it's uh I can pick a part better than the stripper. I'll tell you no lie. That's, yeah, it's, like I said, you look at Houston's playing well. You look at Minnesota's playing well.

Golden State's playing well since the addition of Jimmy Butler. The Lakers, and as good as those teams were playing, the Lakers were playing better. But it just so happens sometimes injuries happen at the most inopportune times. And hopefully you have a team that's good enough to overcome that can keep the ship steady until said player comes back or said players come back. But in this case, it's really one. Yeah, we'd love to get Rui back. We'd love to get Jackson Hayes back.

But the one guy that you could ill afford to lose is LeBron James because he's a guy that does a lot of what kind of like when you got here, Luka, you know they're going to give you 50 to 60 points between the two of them. They're going to give you somewhere between 18 and 20 rebounds between the two of them and they're going to probably give you 20 assists between the two of them. So you count

you can count on that. Now Austin Reeves gives you what he gives you, which is somewhere between 18 and 20 points on a nightly basis. Rued chips in and gives you his 14 gives you, which is somewhere between 18 and 20 points on a nightly basis. Rue chips in and gives you his 14. Now, whatever we get from Fannie Smith, whatever we get from Gabe Benson, we take it. We know Jackson Hayes is going to roll,

going to give us some second-chance opportunities. We know he's going to roll to the basket, dive to the basket, catch a couple of lobs, get a couple of putbacks. Right now, we don't really have that. We don't have a big. We're playing undersized. Giannis is just getting whatever he wants, getting to the basket. Brooke Lopez getting offensive rebounds, getting whatever he wants.

So it was really a tough night. The effort, I don't think J.J. is going to be really pleased with the effort. There's a lot of times Kevin Porter Jr. hit three, I think, three straight threes in the third quarter. I mean, wide open. Shoot around threes.

Can't have that. They've got to be better. They've got to be locked in. And guys got to know their responsibility and close out without fouling. And they got to get the. They got to be locked in. And guys got to know their responsibility and close out without filing. And they got to get the ball once the ball goes. Your job is not done once the guy misses the shot. Your job is done once you grab the rebound. Because if he misses the shot and you don't grab the rebound,

what have you actually done? It's kind of like what you and I talk about on third down. You get a team to third down. If you can't get them off the field, what good is getting them to third down? Listen, if they get a third down and they keep doing it, they're going to get them all in the end zone. Yeah, that's demoralizing. Yes.

That's demoralizing. It's extremely demoralizing. But the Lakers got to find a way to do something. And I don't know if, like I said, LeBron is probably going to be out for at least another week. Probably the earliest you can expect to see LeBron James is probably next weekend. And there's a good chance, Ocho, they could be in the seventh or the eighth spot by then. They really could.

Unless something drastically happened. Like I said, especially starting tomorrow night, they just happened to win. Even though you say our teams get up to play the Lakers. I just have a feeling just with understanding of how sports work, regardless of what the sport is, whether it be soccer, whether it be football, whether it be basketball, tennis,

it's just for some reason where things are, when you think about a team that's playing, they're not playing well, they have a star that's gone. For some reason, the team always plays well against a team that you just know they're going to lose to. And they just spoil you. I really have a feeling.

I don't know why. So people out there, if you're a gambler, I really would pick the Lakers and win tomorrow, despite it being Denver, despite what Joker and Murray are doing. I just think so. Yeah. I might pick the Lakers with somebody else's money, but if it's my money, I'm not picking the Lakers because I value my money a little bit more than that. With that being said, we'll see what happens.

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What are you talking about? No disrespect, Pat. No disrespect. But the long-term move was having Luka there. Now, if you're having issues with what he does off the court, there's a simple conversation that needs to be had. That's all you have to do. Listen, we view you as our long-term plan,

a long-term asset, the long-term nucleus for our team going into the future. We want to build around you because we understand how special you are and what you can do for us. You just got us to the NBA Finals last year. The previous year, based on what you can do on the court, now you let that go. With great understanding, Lucas ain't just falling

from the tree every season. It's just not happening. There's really no way you can defend that trade. Now, I understand the issues that were happening off the court. Some of the things that they didn't see fit that would probably harm him, you know, year down the line.

That's a simple conversation. Especially when you want to invest that kind of money that he was going to make. He probably still got to make line. That's a simple conversation, especially when you want to invest that kind of money that he was going to make. He probably still got to make it, just going to happen to be somewhere else now. You don't let a player of that magnitude go with that hat that gives you that type of production.

You don't. Because like you said, like you said as well, when is the last time something like this has ever happened before? No, not one. There's a reason why there are certain players you don't let go of. You think every super, super, superstar is perfect behind the scenes? You think Kobe didn't have issues despite his dedication and discipline and structure when it came to playing? You think Michael Jordan didn't have issues that we don't know about

outside of playing the game of basketball? Come on, man. Ain't nobody perfect or 10 of 10 when it comes to wanting to invest in it, but understanding what they give you from a business perspective and what they can do on the court long-term. Come on, man. Stop playing. That answer was a whole bunch of nothing the problem is that he called it a long term

move and Nico Harrison said it was a trade to win now move I'm looking at it you just went to the NBA finals like you said Ocho that's winning now I'm confused I can see okay we, we got some F, but you said you're trying to win now.

Bro, you just went to the NBA finals. You just did that. It's not like you hadn't made the playoff in a couple years, Ocho. It's not like you got knocked out in the first round, Ocho. It was a situation, you went to the NBA finals. So that is winning, you're winning. Now, you didn't win the ultimate prize, but damn, normally

we don't see a team break a team up, and that's what they did because you took the key piece out after going to an NBA finals unless said individual is unhappy. But because Luka never voiced that I wanted to be traded, that's

what's so surprising. That's why the greatest trade. Kareem wanted to leave. Orlando allowed Shaq to become a free agent. And they had a poll and they said, who should they pay? Penny or Shaq?

And the poll said they should pay penny. Shaq took that as an insult, as disrespectful, a slap in the face. He said, okay, that's what y'all want to do? Boom. They also said it was too much money, because I forget who it was that had just become the highest paid. And they accepted to the fact that they didn't think the fans

didn't think Shaq deserved that kind of money. Huh? They didn't think the fans didn't think Shaq deserved that kind of money. Huh? So, guys like Shaq, you don't let them become free agents. You try to extend them as soon as you possibly can. As soon as the window opened and you could offer them a max contract, you give it to them. You do them, yeah. A 24-year-old Shaq.

And, well, we see what happened when he went to the Lakers. But normally, guys like Luka don't get traded unless they ask to get traded. Kareem asked to get traded. Kareem was a three-time league MVP. He was a finals MVP. He had gone to the finals. He had won the scoring title. He wanted to get out of Milwaukee. They obliged him.

Guys this age, this skill, this talented, this dominant, you're not just moving them on your own volition. Right. Doesn't happen. Not at this age. Now, come a time, we saw AI get traded, but AI wasn't 25. And AI

didn't have to get traded, but, you know, the organization thought it was in the best interest, thought some of the things that were going on off the court, and they moved on from AI. But 25-year-old AI, they ain't moving it. Absolutely not. And so, I ain't moving it. Absolutely not.

And so I'm... You understand. But I... Go ahead. No, I was just saying, you understand the product. You understand the product. I also... That you get it.

I use a scenario last night. American gangster. Denzel Washington, Cuban Union Junior. There's nothing wrong with Blue Magic. You got Blue Magic. Why are you touching it? Why are you touching it? There's nothing wrong with it. It's perfectly fine just how it is.

The product sells itself. Luka is the product. It sells itself. Why are you touching it? What are we doing? A player of his magnitude. You know what? All the hookah, all the beer.

God damn it. You've been part of the NBA. GMs, presidents, managers. You understand everybody drink. Everybody smoke. Everybody does some things, some extracurricular things outside of that as well. But we ain't trading them. Especially talking about this is

for long-term. Long-term what? Lucas ain't walking through that door? No. If they were, if Lucas would walk through that door, I mean, a lot of other teams would have success. A lot more frequently.

Yeah. Luca is not a generational talent. Luca is a lot more frequently. Luka is not a generational talent. Luka is a transcendent talent. Because the generation is 20 years. You guys don't come along. This is transcendent. He's and for me, Ocho,

if I'm Patrick Dumont, if I'm anybody, Nico Harrison, if I'm anybody in the Mavericks organization, I am not going to talk about this because all you do, stirring old poop, it still stinks. All you do is peel the scab off a wound that's still very fresh, but it's starting to scab over. You just ripped the scab off and got to start this thing all over again because all the fans heard is like, man, this man, Trey, I can't believe this man.

And did you hear what he's saying? That's what the fans are thinking. Did you hear what he's saying? He's talking about long-term goals. Man, we just went to the NBA finals last year. You're lying to yourself. You're lying to yourself. Yeah, but if I'm them,

I'm done talking about this. This, this, this subject, Ocho, I ain't, I ain't, I'm not bringing,

I'm not bringing it up no more, Ocho. Because, because I can't, there is no, listen, at some point in time, you got to come to the conclusion,

Ocho, there is nothing you can say. Even if you were to win a title, people like, you know what people gonna say? We could to win a title, people like you know what people are going to say? We could have won a title with Luka. Who's to say we wouldn't have won that title with Luka, Ojo? Yeah. But you know, he won't have

to worry about that because they're not going to be able to win his title. Ojo, the pain did not stop there for Dallas. Southwest Airlines, after 54 years, decided to up their check bag policy, and now they're charging customers by throwing shade at the Mavs. It's not like we traded Luca. That's a good one. That's a great one.

That's a good one. Great business is all about advertising. Mm-hmm. Marketing. How do we grasp the viewing eye and make them say oh that was good you know what i want to fly with them despite them changing the policy and finally having to pay for bags that was so clever i'm gonna fly with southwest just because i mean i'm not changing you know my, my love for Spirit Airlines,

but that was a good one. That was great advertising. I don't know who came up with that. It was short, quick, and to the point. Perfect scenario. Because the thing is, Ocho, is that, you know, there are certain things that are catchy, like the State Farm, like Flow with Progressive, like Allstate with Mayhem,

like Budweiser. Yeah, yeah. Bud, why? You know what I'm saying? The Clydesdale. Remember the Clydesdale commercial with the horses and the dogs and so forth and so on? That's what he wanted to be. Mm-hmm.

Hey, I don't know who that Allstate, that Mayhem commercials. But he's classy. I don't know who's behind the creative. Right. Directing on. But he is. That's classy. Right. Oh know who's behind the creative. Right. Directing on. But he is. That's classic. Right.

Oh, that's. Jake from State Farm. Mayhem from Allstate. Flo from Progressive. Mm-hmm. They're synonymous. I mean, I don't know what Flo's going to do. Hey, you remember when we went to this commercial with Grandma? Where's the beef?

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. So in this situation right here, I mean, look, this is maybe over time because eventually, you know, 20, 30 years from now, people won't remember. Milwaukee traded Kareem. You don't remember that. People think Kareem played his whole career at L.A. He didn't. Right. You don't remember that. People think Kareem played his whole career at LA. He didn't. He didn't.

It happens. Yeah. It definitely happens. He was homegrown. We took a young kid out of Slovenia. Not extremely terribly athletic. He doesn't jump very high.

He doesn't run very fast. He doesn't run very fast. All I know, he puts the ball in the basket at an elite level. He has the third highest scoring average in NBA history, only behind Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, and his Luka Doncic. History. History. He has the second highest scoring average in playoff history behind

one Michael Jordan they're not gonna forget that soon over time you know we forget a lot of stuff over time that's just the way the human mind is after a while but it ain't happening anytime soon

nah and because anything that he does you know people gonna go back after a while, but it ain't happening anytime soon. Nah. And because anything that he does, you know people are going to go back. And plus, we got internet. Maybe it would have been different if Kareem came up in an era where you had internet and you had 24-hour news cycles and people would talk sports

all the time, 24 hours a day, 365. Maybe it would be different. But sports is different now than what it was back then, Ocho. It's vastly different because the way we cover it, the way we talk about it, the way we consume it. Yes, sir. And with all that being said, people are going to be mad at Dallas

at the Maverick for a long-ass time. Wow. Yeah. So. And he's not going to make it no easier on his end playing the way he's playing. No. When LeBron comes back and they continue to have success together on the court, it's going to always be brought up over and over and over and over.

This is who they traded. Hey, but don't lose sight of that. I understand y'all didn't trade Luka, but y'all charging for check bags now. So let's keep the focus on the focus. I get it. It's very catchy. It's not like we traded Luka,

but y'all charging money for those bags. And I remember when they first instituted charging for check bags, Ocho. Yeah. I'm like, man, everybody like, that ain't gonna last long. That ain't gonna last long. People gonna stop flying. Okay. Well, how you gonna get from

California to Florida? How you gonna get from New York to South Carolina? Exactly. You gonna fly. You ain't gonna drive. I know that. Hell nah. And guess what? What normally happens is that when one airline does something, what does everybody else do, Ocho? Follow right

behind. Follow right behind. Because you got to make it up for a reason. They charge you for checked bags for a reason. You got to make money. This is a business, no matter how you see it. And think about the money. Think about it, Ocho. They give you one, and then

they charge you if the bag is of a certain weight. Mm-hmm. They charge you what? How much is it? A dollar a pound? For real? Yeah! Hell yeah! I do my best. I do my best regardless of how long I'm going somewhere.

I always take a carry-on. I take a carry-on and a duffel. I try not to take suitcases. I try to do the same thing, but sometimes when you're traveling eight cities in ten days, sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait, wait, wait, wait one minute. Now, listen, you can always use my method, a method I've been using for a very long time. It's very, it's cost efficient and it works going from city to city. Now, if you got what, how many days you say eight cities in 10 days? Now, if you got eight cities in 10 days, what you have to understand is all you have to do is take three pair of shoes, use the same outfit, have a bunch of underwear, tank tops and t-shirts, always change, but use the same outfit, but change your shoes after each city because the outfit resets itself. So if you're in Chicago on Monday and you got to go to let's say LA on Tuesday, all you do is wear the same outfit but change your shoes and the outfit resets itself based

on a different location. So that statement happens to pack in multiple outfits. Now that's just something I do and still do to this day. Especially when you have to do things back to back to back and you having to do signings and appearances for LePortier. Okay, well,

I understand. You think I'd wear shorts and tank top in Connecticut and Chicago right now? All you need is a little jacket. You can put a little jacket in your duffel real quick. Boom. You good. Old hoodie. You don't need much. You're used to the cold. You played in Denver. You played in Baltimore.

Boy, that was 20 years ago. I'm just trying to save you on your traveling expenses. Not only expenses, but being able to travel efficient and light. Yeah. Two pair of shoes.

Same sweatsuit. Matter of fact, you have a black sweatsuit and a gray one. And those are interchangeable and you just change the shoes. A pair of white Air Force 1s and a pair of black ones. I got white Air Force 1s, and that's it.

It go with everything. See? The outfits, I don't know. They probably stand up in the corner by themselves when I take them off. I ain't making all that happen. Hey, listen, it works, though. It works. It works. Yeah, I hate going to,

I just want to come out of the airport and hop right into the car, and I'm off. I don't want to stand around baggage claim and... I mean, look, fan, I want to say this.

If you see a person standing around baggage claim, don't ask them what they're doing. If I see you standing around baggage claim, what do you think I think you're doing, Ocho? Waiting on my bag. What are you doing here? Yeah, I came to get some crab cakes.

They just trying to start a little conversation. Hey, how you doing? Man, I be watching that, man. Y'all be going crazy, man. Y'all be going ham with that thing. I love that show. You know, I love. Come on now.

Some people be nervous, huh? You got to understand that. People be nervous. Lord have mercy. I told you to do that. I was in the script, man. Some people be nervous, huh? You got to understand that. People be nervous. Oh, Lord have mercy. I told you to do that. I was in the script, man. What you doing here? Same thing you doing here.

Look at that hoo-ha. That's what I'm doing here. That's what you doing here. What the hell? What you think I'm doing? Ain't no basketball. Ain't no sporting event going on. Right, right, right, right, right, right.

So you there for the hoo-ha and the wings, huh? Yeah. Come on, bro. You right, right, right. So you're there for the hoo-ha and the wings, huh? Oh, bro. You right. Yeah, man. Hey, yeah, man. Hey, man. Y'all, man, I've been watching you with TD, bro.

Not the time. You try to distract me. Not right now? Hey. Hey, nah. Hey. Read the room? Yeah, man. Honey on the stage, bro. I ain't glad to get nothing by no td honey i'm looking at honey right now that's what i'm looking at oh amber amber up next i'm coming to the stage one

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That's a Benz yeah man he got the man thing little block aw man they ain't they ain't even put no blocks upon anything nope

oh that oh that hurt that hurt and listen as a rookie that's expected too far just far enough Ocho that's good that's good a rookie that that's expected too far just far enough ojo that's good that's good that's light that's light that's real light that's real light just taking

the wheels off the car obviously they they gonna they gonna get them put back on it's a super being a being an nba player what was that a what a toyota supra i ain't even know they made those anymore they still made they? They came back Okay Okay Yeah the Toast Tuckin' Up in the Supers is dope Yeah When I was coming up That was Lil' Sports Car

That was nice Yeah Put your lil' exhaust on that thing Had that thing humming They call you Lil' Fast and Furious Uh huh Yeah That's not that bad

That's not that bad Did y'all prank y'all rookies? Uh no I was prankingall rookies? Uh, no, I was pranking my rookie. I think, I think I might've told you where I made a mistake and left my windows down. Um,

the night they decided to prank and they use a fire, fire, fire extinguisher. I was told to wake up to the fire with my whole car all white. Yeah. But then knowing it was nighttime when they did it, obviously when everybody was that my whole car was all white. Yeah. But them not knowing it was nighttime. When they did it, obviously, when everybody was asleep, my windows was cracked on both sides.

So the entirety of my car was all white on the inside. And I had a Lexus IS300. And if anyone that drives a Lexus or had a Lexus understands that the seats were, what, suede or something like that. I forgot the material. So everything was ruined. I didn't get mad i didn't get upset because i understood this is what comes with it and i was just so happy to be in the nfl at that point as a rookie man i wasn't even tripping took it to the detail i had a lot of detailers i never forget we was in training camp all the way in georgetown kentucky

to the detail listen if y'all can get it out, fine. If you can't, I ain't tripping. I made it. I'm here. I'm going to leave. Yeah. The best way they could, yeah. Best way they could.

I'll never forget. I wasn't even upset, though. Yeah. It was funny to me. Yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously, you got to prank the rookies. That's a rite of passage. So, yeah, we probably steal your car. Let the fire extinguish it.

I mean, what we would do, we would pull rubbing alcohol up under the door and then set it on fire. Whoa, wait, what? Yeah, you won't come out? You know what I'm saying? You won't come out? Okay, we'll smoke you out. Or we'll knock the peephole.

You know, you got a peephole because it was a college dorm. We would knock the peephole out and let the fire extinguisher off up in there. So come out. We get you to come out, Ocho. Then we're going to dump the water on you. Get you to come out. That's funny. We put toothpaste on.

We put toothpaste. We take toothpaste and put it on your door handle. So you know, Ocho, you coming out for training camp, you just turn around and grab your door handle. All you hear, ain't nobody did this with Sharp. He make me sick. I'm robbed of my room. Ain't nobody did it

with Sharp. Ain't nobody did it with Sharp. Sharp made you play the pro. Or we go into the dining hall, Ocho, we take all the salt and pepper and we put it on. So you pour some salt, all or we go into the dining hall Ocho we take all the salt and pepper and we put it on so you put some salt all the salt go into your meal now that would piss me off

don't play with my food now you play with Ocho that's your food I didn't do that I'm just saying listen the car the wheels that's fine Don't play with my food now. You play with Ojo. That's your food. I didn't do that. I'm just saying. Listen, the car, the wheels, that's fine. But not my food. Not my meal I got to eat.

Especially when you're hungry. Especially in camp. You know, when it is time to go eat. Oh, boy, you hungry. You hear me? Yeah. You hungry now. Don't do my meal like that.

That would hurt. I mean, we used to take the car. I mean, I took a dude, I took a dude truck. He had to explore. Drove it, drove it like a mile away.

Left it running. Lights on, doors open. Beginning to practice. So it was like five minutes. So he ain't got enough time to go get it. Right. He just watched it there

for two hours. He just watch it. And them lights getting dimmer and dimmer. Yeah. watch it and them lights getting dimmer and dimmer dimmer and dimmer dimmer and dimmer I ain't do it I'm just saying I know who did do it I'm just saying like I said I don't know if the statute of limitations

is up on such a crime but I'm just saying I know people that would do such a thing like that not that I did it because I was proud like bro ain't nobody did it but I'm like bro how did I do it and I'm just saying, I know people that would do such a thing like that. Not that I did it because I was probably like, bro, ain't nobody did it. But I'm like, bro, how did I do it? And I'm right here with you. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just want y'all to know, Chad, I had no part of that. Now, did I see something? Yeah. But you ain Yeah. Yeah. But you ain't, but I don't work for our Rappahoe police department. So it's not my job. And I'm not detective Mullins of force 48.

It ain't my job to investigate it. So with that being said, I don't know what to tell it. Yeah. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. Wow. Bill Belichick is telling UNC

staff to copy his 24 year old girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, in every message intended for him. From Coach Belichick Monday, December 16, 2024 11 p.m. to blah blah blah you see what it is.

Robbie, thank you for the email. I'm including Jordan on this email so she can keep up with our posting. Can you include her on anything you send me? Thank you. Be beat. That's not a bad thing, is it? Let me ask you a question. When somebody sends stuff from you, did you include on everything that was sent to you? Did you include?

I'm just asking. Yes or no? Why are you shaking your thumb? Like you the Kimberley Tumbo. Just to make sure. I wasn't trying to hear that. When you ask me if it's a good or bad thing, I'm asking you.

On certain things. On certain things. Hold on. Let me go certain things let me go back can you include her on anything you send me I'm going to pose this again to one Ochocinco at any point in time did you request that everything

that was sent to you was copied to your girlfriend or significant other is it simple yes or simple no no work related yes hold on to your girlfriend or significant other? Is it simple yes or simple no? No. Work-related, yes. Hold on. Let me read this again.

You ain't hearing him? He said, no, no, no. I heard, thank you for the email. I'm including Jordan on this email so she can keep up with our postings. Can you include? No. Okay. No.

For me, listen, based on the question, to keep things within context, anything work-related, the small team that I do have, that individual is included to make sure I stay on top of my stuff because sometimes I forget certain things. You know, the scheduling, what time my flight is, my boarding pass, just small stuff so I stay on top of it. And that individual keeps me ahead of schedule. That's all. But every day?

No, absolutely not. Bill Belichick asked his UNC staff to copy his girlfriend on every email they send to him. Yeah. I have a question. With as much as Bill has to worry about the, would you think that's a good thing in general? So he could focus on the football side of things and anything outside of that. She can help and kind of,

kind of keep them abreast on the what's going on. That's their relationship to each his own. Oh yeah. I don't know. Right. For the most part. Um, I don't know. For the most part, yeah, I can see it, Ocho. I do see it because a lot of stuff that Shelly gets copied on

because Shelly is the one that has my schedule. Bingo. The problem that we're running into, okay, I've got to do something for espn i might have something scheduled for nightcap but then it overlapped club shea shea and so now with so now everything we got a copy okay blah blah blah we got a potential uh uh sit down on club shea shea on this day shelly this is not gonna. Shelly has this already scheduled on this day. Can we move it back a day or move it up a day? So I get it.

I get it. I do get it. At first, I was like, damn, everything. But yeah, for the most part, Shelly is looped in. She looped in on everything. Because he said copy her on everything. She looped in. Shelly's looped in on the most important stuff.

Yeah, yeah. But here's the thing. Bill doing all the heavy lifting. How about this, Ocho? Shelly is the email. You can't email me. So it's got to go through Shelly. How about this, Ocho?

I'm looped in. Yeah, that's a good one. But this is, Ocho, the difference is, like, a lot of people that have executive assistants, you Luke them in, blah, blah, blah. She's not his assistant. There's a difference between the two. I think Coach Belichick has an assistant. I don't think it's her.

He has a girlfriend. It's this young lady,ordan mm-hmm two different yeah um at any point in time was no no it wasn't no emails going because we surely was getting emails she wasn't then forwarding them on to someone else they would take a a look. No. No. Right. Mm-mm. So, no. Like I said, an assistant, yes. Girlfriend, unless

girlfriend is an assistant, that's handling all that attack. Mingo, you heard what you just said? Yeah. How do you eliminate one expense? How do you eliminate one expense? That expense, North Carolina Tar He'll be paying for that's an expense he doesn't need to because the tar he'll be paying for it i'm sorry i'm talking

about me we talk about me oh yeah we talk about me yeah i'm talking about the men not only are the missus but you're also the assistant you're the one giving me listen when you when you when you find a woman anyway in general that actually care about you no she she brings that structure and discipline that you need to keep your ass in line anyway. Why not? Your girlfriend should be your assistant anyway.

You think so? It makes sense. Yeah, but a lot of times, Ocho, it's part of the value that she adds to even being attached to you. True, I agree. But a lot of times, Ocho,

there's like, I want to stay in this lane. Yeah. I want to stay over here, Ocho. Don't talk to me now. You have somebody over there to do that because I don't want to get the lines blurred.

I get it. I do. I get it. Yeah. I blurred. I get it. I do. I get it. Yeah. I do. I get it. But, hey, when you're in love, Ocho, we all been there now. Don't play. We been there. Talk to me. Hold on. Hold on. Where you going

with this now? Talk to me. We been there where we tell the girl everything every move i'm going here i'm going there i mean i mean chauncey i mean doug i'm going to hang with tj i'm going to do this i'm going to do x y and z you tell everything there was a time period there might not be it might have been a month it might have been two months it might have been six months it might have been a year but you told everything you know you do that you do you do at the beginning when thing you know when things are going well but you know obviously sometimes an individual loses those privileges

no you know i'm trying to be funny i'm just being honest i know you ain't trying to be funny. I'm just being honest with you. I know you ain't trying to be funny. Yeah, listen. Sometimes a person loses those privileges to know your every move. So I understand what you're saying, but in love, listen, love, there's a thin line between being in love and being stupid. And I never crossed that line over to being stupid.

Ever. Ever. But hey, Coach Belichick and love of love man when you do love they say love is like a cataract it's blinding oh that's what they say oh i don't know i ain't never had no cataracts i know they do have lasik surgery though i know that all right now it's time to welcome our special guest. He's appearing in season four of Godfather of Harlem on MGM. He's been on How to Get Away with Murder, The Bold and the Beautiful, Dear White People, Chicago Fire, With Love, and Madea Family Funeral. Take us get now.

Time to welcome Rome Fled. Rome, what are you doing? What's going on bro what's up baby who say what's the word man man we good we good tell us about the godfather of harlem how did you come about getting that role yeah you know um i auditioned for it. So I got the script and sort of the breakdown. And I was like, Frank Lucas, you know, young Frank, I was like, okay, let me do some research. And I didn't think actually we're gonna rock with me for it. Because, you know, a lot of times I don't get casted in those gritty roles like that. But, you know, our creator, Chris Brancato, he like, he just saw something in my tape. He just like you were you were the guy right away i was like okay so you know we we did it i got to work with forest and filmed for about five months on that five and a half months and it's you know we almost here it comes out you saw denzel portrayal of frank lucas an american gangster did you lean into that or you were trying to go a totally different way since I got to put my own spin on it? Yeah, I'm just I'm inspired by him regardless. You know, I didn't draw any inspiration from his portrayal of Frank at all because he plays him at a point in his life where he's already the man. You know, I play a young Frank who who now touches down at Harlem in 1966 with nothing. Okay.

Right. We get to kind of know the conception of like who Frank was in the beginning. And we take him on a little journey to ultimately who he does become, you know, this version of Frank Lucas that, you know, Denzel played in the movie. That's live hey when it comes to acting right obviously we all we all pull motivation from from from people that we see and we want to achieve the type of greatness they have who are some actors that you watch that made you realize you know what i can actually do this uh early on you know one of my favorites was will smith um and you know will was that guy because he was he was able to have uh just this comedic timing about him. And, you know, with Fresh Prince.

And but he had so many like heavy scenes in that in that series. Also, more notable, probably you probably know if you've seen it is like, you know, where his dad leaves him, you know, and he's. Oh, yeah. So that scene always stuck out to me because for whatever reason, when I was younger, I never thought about acting or anything, you know, until I became an adult. But when I thought about like Will's career, I was like, man, this guy can do everything. It's kind of like a Swiss Army knife, you know. So like if I'm lucky enough to have a career with that kind of longevity, with the amazing stories that he's been able to tell, then, you know, I've done an amazing job for real. Yeah. When it comes to also acting, I know, I'm going to do an amazing job for real. Yeah.

When it comes to also acting, I mean, I've really never put my foot into it. I've just done small cameos. Do you think having range, being able to play multiple roles, plays a part in having longevity as an actor where you can do much more as opposed to just being always doing the same type,

being cast as the same different role in movies? I don't think so. I think if you're good at what you do, there'll always be a lane for you. You know, it's always good to kind of reinvent yourself. You know, 2 Chainz, one of my homies, he always told me this, like, you have to look at yourself as a business. You have to reinvent yourself every couple of years. And it's the same thing with acting.

Like, we have a certain itch. I think most actors that I know has this itch they want to scratch and that's just the journey of getting opportunities to play different characters you know whether it's comedic or it's drama or whatever um but some guys just figure it out like yo there's my lane i'm gonna stick to it you know uh the rock the rock he's he's great at what he does you know he's one he was once one of the most paid you know actors in hollywood and it wasn't like he was once one of the most paid, you know, actors in Hollywood. And it wasn't like he was out there doing Shakespeare. You know what I mean?

He was doing his thing and he did it well. So if you talk about your own niche and you're great at it, then, you know, I think it's just about building on that. And then when you're ready, you get opportunity, then you try to stretch a little more and do different stuff. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse

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Were you good in sports when you were growing up? Did you want to be a sport? If you played sports, what when you were growing up? Did you want to be a sport? If you played sports, what sport did you play? And do you want to be a professional athlete? I never had dreams of playing professionally. I always knew how handicapped I was at height-wise. You know, but I played football in high school and I played basketball

and I didn't get good at basketball until I was like a senior in high school. Okay. I never got the glory. You know, I wasn't the guy who was starting every game. I was at the end of the bench a lot of times. And so, you know what I mean? I had to work my way through.

And now I'm a bucket. I'm like that now. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you're a bucket. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was dope.

Doing the NBA thing was a dream come true. We need to get you with Gilly. Because Gilly say he'll buck it. They call him Damon Giller. So I know. You know, I saw that. You know, I like him. I like him.

He can't guard me, though. Gilly. Gilly. Oh. Gilly. You see this? I like that. You see? I like that. Gilly. Gilly. Oh. Gilly. You see this? I like that. You see?

I like that. Gilly, I just want you to know. Yeah. Did you hear what Rome said? You can't see him on that court. That's what he just said. Money on the wood. Good.

Money on the wood. Good. Oh, Gilly. Put a little price to it. Yeah. Put a little price to it. Gilly, what you trying to do? You can put it on the street.

50,000. 50,000. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're going to make that happen. Put a little price to it. Get it what you're trying to do. You can put it on the street. 50,000. We're going to make that happen. The man say money on the wood is good. Money out of sight cause a fight. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, Ro. That's what I'm talking about. Get it what you're trying to do.

You got to play. The All-Star game is in L.A. next year. Oh, it is. Yeah. It's Clippers. That's right. Into it. Wow. Wow. I'll be there. Go ahead, Ocho.

Go ahead, Ocho. What you say? Rome, is there a dream role or character you want to play? Like, I have a dream role. Hey, listen. I'm not into acting. Listen act listen i love acting i love the craft itself yeah i love arts drama theater all that obviously i was i was a drama major matter of fact speaking of i'm going to see denzel i'm in new york right now okay yeah i'm going to see othello saturday that's gonna be but i've always wanted to act beside daniel dayLewis.

I would never get the opportunity. I'm just saying a dream. I mean, it's so far. It's stretched out of the imagination. It would never happen. But just I love Daniel Day-Lewis. I love everything he's ever done. Yeah. Well, he retired.

He retired. He retired. He ain't really doing nothing no more. He got one film he has coming out. His son is directing it. Yeah. You know, he kind of came out of retirement to do that. Right.

But, um. Is there a dream role or character that you want to play? Um, superhero, man. Superhero. For real? Yeah, yeah. But I want to represent, like, man, just like a reimagined version of, like, what a superhero is, you know. And there's a lot of stuff floating around, but I've always wanted to be able to do a film or like a series where I, you know, actually, you know, in

Raising Dion, I had powers, right? So I was kind of like a superhero in that, but I'm thinking more globally. I'm thinking more Marvel. I'm thinking more DC. I need one of them kind of, one of them kind of gigs. Big boys. Working tours, you know, I'm in that gym. I'm in there lifting like Shea Sharp, man.

On the back of this, you say you want to play that gym. I'm in there lifting like Shea Sharp, man. What's the matter with you? You say you want to play like a superhero. Who's your favorite superhero? I mean, Batman was always that guy for me. He ain't got no powers, right? He got a belt. I know he got no powers, but he just had... He can't fly. He can't see. He can't hear.

He got that belt. Take that belt off him. He get his ass whipped. He smart. He smart. You know, no, he was my favorite growing up He got that belt. Take that belt off him. He get his ass whipped. He got it. He smart. He smart. You know. No, he was my favorite growing up, though. Superman, you know, it made me eventually ready for a black Superman.

I'm ready to step in there, man. Right. I got us. Honestly, like, I always just felt like if I got the opportunity to play, like, a version a spider-man would be dope you know right you know in the multiverse there's so many of them maybe i'm maybe i can be one of them ones you know man you know uh hey the guy that plays spider-man they really they tiny tiny hobie mcguire uh uh uh what's the what's the dating zendaya now? What's his name? Tom Holland. Tom Holland. Yeah.

Man, them guys tiny, bro. They little. They little. You might be going to be a big-ass Spider-Man. No, but look, though. In the multiverse, they all different. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

I might get a small one. I might get one with a little. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I might get a little bigger one. We'll see. I have one more. I'm nosy.

I love acting, so I got another one. I'm going to name off five of my favorite actors. I want you to name off five of yours. My five is Denzel, Edward Norton, Christoph Waltz,

James McAvoy, and probably last, I go with Anthony Hopkins. Just five of mine that are very rangy. Add Daniel Day-Lewis to that as well. Who would your five be right off the top of your head?

Well, I would say this. I love your list, but I would have probably added a woman or two in there. Meryl Streep? Viola? Meryl Streep? Claire Dane? I would add a little color. You like Bail? I love Bail. What about Claire Dane's? Yeah.

Did you see Tim McGrath? Did you see Tim McGrath by any chance? No, I've never seen it. We'll talk about that later. Get a chance. Watch Claire Dane and Tim McGrath, and you'll get an understanding why one of my favorites

oh for sure obviously for me you know my top five kind of like a wall and door of actors I try to like

stay away from the cliches like obviously I'm a huge fan of Denzel like he's on everybody no probably on everybody's list but Don Cheadle

I like Don that's a really underrated Samueluel jackson i mean his his resume is like impeccable he's up there he's one of the greats he's one of the greats if you actually look at the range and like the things you can do like can you do it's hard to do snakes on the plane i don't understand how hard that movie was probably for him to do. I mean, he's done everything, man. Time to kill. I think Hateful Eight was the one. Oh, what's that?

That Spike Lee movie? Jungle Fever. Jungle Fever. You know what that is? Then last day for you. Remember Lakeview Terrace oh yeah yeah

what was it he was just giving them neighbors hell he cut down the trees and put the spotlights on them yeah yeah yeah you now he needs some more he need to get his flowers

for sure they never gave I don't even know if he's ever been nominated for an Oscar but if he didn't win it for Django he ain't win it for Django, he ain't win it for some of the roles that he played or time to kill,

they ain't finna give it to him now. He was cooking in that. It seems to me that you like guys with range. For me, I love Tom Hanks. Range out to Ying Yang. A guy that he's no longer with us, Robin Williams, had incredible range. Very good. Yeah. The women, I love Viola Davis, obviously.

The redhead. What's the redhead lady name? Hey, Blanchette. Ron, what's the redhead? Julianne Moore? Julianne Moore? Julia Roberts. No, no, no. Julianne Moore. Julia Roberts. I ain't familiar. I'm thinking of Amy Adams. No, no, no. Julianne Moore. I ain't familiar.

I'm thinking of Amy Adams. Yeah, I know Amy Adams. Ash, what's the... She won an Academy Award. Julianne Moore. It's got to be her name. Julianne Moore. Yes.

The redhead. Yeah, man. She won a couple Academy Awards. She is incredible. She is incredible. She is incredible. You know, I got to work a while, obviously. For real?

I don't know how to get rid of that. Dude, man. Well, if you want an EGOT, you got to... You got range. An Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar, and a Tony. You can sing, you can dance, you can act.

Hey. Oh, that's Julia Elfman. That's Silence of the Lamb Hannibal, man. No, no, that's Jodie Foster. Jodie Foster. No. She was in Silence of the Lamb. Wait, she's in one of them.

She was in a movie. She was? Wait, she's in one of them. She was in a movie? She was? Yeah, she's in Hannibal. Hannibal, Hannibal. That's Clarice. She Clarice. Oh, yeah, yeah. In the reboot, yeah.

Because if I'm not mistaken, I think Silence of the Lambs is after Hannibal. Hannibal was first, but they released Silence of the Lambs first. Right. If I'm not mistaken.

I can't remember. I just know that's Clarice. You know who else done great work? My man, Javier Ferdinand. No country for old men. Oh,

but he was, he didn't talk. Well, he talked, but he was just like a man a few words in that. When he talked, it was too late.

He was doing as well. Yeah, it was too late. Rome, you're from Springfield, Illinois. So that means, are you a Bulls, Bears fan, Cubs, White Sox? Or have you kind of like moved on because y'all guys have been terrible for a while? Yeah, I was actually born in Chicago. I was, I was, I was growing up in Chicago and then I moved to Springfield and I actually went to the same high school as Andre Vidala.

So he, he's, he's much older than me though. But, and we, we never even met, which is crazy. But, but yeah, you know, Springfield is kind of a small town, but it's, it's oddly like a place where a lot of people come out of creatively for some reason. But I, I was, I was a Bears fan,

you know, when D Rose was the, was the man. You mean Bulls fan? I got to see Mike when I was a Bulls fan. Yeah. You know, when D Rose was the man,

you know, always wanted to play in D Rose's, you know, they didn't got hurt. And then shortly after that, you know, it was just me and Brian. You know what I'm saying?

Me and Brian, you know, so I'm a Brian fan now. That's what I'm talking about. Now, Springfield, the most famous alum from Springfield is Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, facts. So what was it? I mean, do people, I mean, what is it like? I mean, we talk about obviously one of the great presidents, what he meant for American history, his place in American history. Did you understand what Abraham Lincoln was outside of being a president?

Did you understand what it meant for that little small, you said it was a very small town in Illinois? Did you understand what he meant at the time when you were growing up? Yeah, you know, they have the statue of him that's like near the library in the town and so i would always ride my bike i see i used to always see it all the time but it never crossed my mind what it meant if it was important or anything you know when you get older then you look back and you like wow that's actually dope you know that that's a part of our what about your bears caleb williams they've done a great job they've got them offensive line they're going to protect them now they They got weapons.

You know, they drafted Roma Dunzay. You don't hear very many Roms first, man, but there's Roma Dunzay. We got Rome Flynn. You got DJ Moore. We don't know the situation. You got Cole Kometa, the wide receiver. We don't know if they're going to bring Keenan Allen back,

but they should be better. What is your expectation for the Bears this season? Well, I think, you know, Caleb showed that with enough time, he can be accurate. He was one of the most accurate quarterbacks last season. So, they shored up that O-line. Obviously, they got my guy

from the Chiefs. I'm a Chiefs fan, too. I like, I'm more of a yeah, yeah, I'm more of like a player guy. I like certain players. But they shored more of like a player guy I like certain players um but they showed up that whole line I think hopefully they get in the draft and you can find something I guess great when you can trade outside

of the draft and be able to find something instead of like having to look in the draft you know um but I think Caleb is going to be a lot more comfortable you know obviously he has a new head coach who is incredible you know for the Lions. And I just think, you know,

he's going to be in a better place. And he'll be able to be the best version of himself, especially if he has a little more time behind that O-line. You got a special project

coming up? Anything you want to share? You're talking about a pro-up? Promote? Yeah, yeah. Yes, for sure. I got a show

called SideQuest. That's on Apple TV. That comes out March 26th. And, you know, obviously, Godfather of Harlem is April 13th. And also, and Shannon, you know, I got, I'm going to gift y'all a year subscription for MGM Plus

for both of y'all. I like that. I like that. Listen, I don't mean to be greedy. I know you already Offered me something But also Listen

If you got a chance And got a role for me I'm always looking To diversify my portfolio I got I got my little foot in the door When it comes to little acting I got my SAG card

So man How I let you play How I let you play You know I'm very rangy The only SAG You know Okay

Listen The only SAG he got Is his pants off his ass. That's the only sag he got. No, no, no. Listen to me. Rome, Rome, listen to me. Listen.

I could be Sykes Shakespeare. Or I could be Frank Lucas. Or I could be Pablo Escobar. I can't even talk Spanish. There's so many different variables in what I can do in front of camera. I believe him. I like Oto because

whatever he feel ambitious about, he gonna do it. Thank you, Steve. Even when he feel like it's not something he should be doing, he be in there. Thank you. I saw you like,

you ain't prepared for no challenge. I like that about you. I'm gonna be believing in you, man. I believe. He just trying to keep you humble. I believe. You got a guy like that in your life, man. I believe.

He got on that bull for all of our 1. humble. I believe. You got a guy like that in your life, man. I believe. He got on that bull for all of our 1.2.35 seconds. So that took some... I got one more thing I'm going to say, though. I'm going to say one more thing before y'all get me up out of here, right? So, you know, a lot being said, right? It could be in Denver.

It could be at dinner. It can be in September. Leg be at dinner it can be in September that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about y'all see what it is thank you for joining us y'all is classy y'all is classy

oh baby Godfather of Harlem I watch y'all all the time appreciate it check it out on the Godfather season 4 Godfather of Harlem on MGM I watch y'all all the time. I appreciate it. Check it out on the Godfather, season four of Godfather of Harlem on MGM Plus.

Rome, congratulations. Thanks for all the blessings that's coming your way, bro. Thank you for joining us on Nightcap tonight. We greatly appreciate it. Continued success. We'll see you down the road.

My man, appreciate y'all. I know, that was classic. That was a classic ending. That was a blessing. Man, Ocho, I was telling you last night, man, you don't realize how many people I know that was classic. That was a classic ending. Man. Oh, I will tell you last night, man,

you don't realize how many people that's what a, Oh, just hold up five fingers. It's funny. Oh, Joe, cause you really don't know what's going to go viral. Uh,

what's going to, what's going to, you know, people are going to be catchy and what people gonna pick up on and it's gone airport it don't it don't matter now it don't matter and i see people now i mean i think um espn posting they've got like 10 million uh paying views on on tiktok on TikTok. Uh-huh. That's funny. OKC. OKC.

UFC. Ah! Negative five. Man, that was unbelievable, man. That was great, man. That's Ron Flynn. Make sure y'all check out Godfather of Harlem on MGM+. He's been on

How to Get Away with Murder, The Bold and the Beautiful. He won an Emmy for this. Dear white people, Chicago Fire with Love, Medea Family Funeral. Oh, man, that was great. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify,

the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate

and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

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